Hillary Hits Jackpot in Vegas
EmailBig Clinton win in the Nevada Caucuses. And if she has anything to say about it, what happened in Vegas will not stay in Vegas. But there are, of course, questions (from Obama supporters, mainly) about whether Clinton can only win by winning ugly. With all the charges coming from the Clinton camp, and the anger from the former president, they seemed — as they did right before their New Hampshire victory — headed for a loss. Maybe this is their "tell" — they act all angry and flustered when they’re holding a straight flush. One has to say — those pro-Obama UNITE HERE radio ads, in which Clinton was called "shameless," were plenty ugly, too. Could it be that they backfired? Obama, who didn’t condemn them, didn’t look like such an agent of change after all. Or, in Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s home state, was the deck just stacked? — jpt
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Isn’t it obvious the Clinton campaign was trying to lower expectations by playing up the importance of the special At Large sites, which they ended up winning?
The polls all showed Clinton with big leads, so only an idiot would think this was a surprise. It was hers to lose. In the end, her base came out and combined with some late dirty tricks, pulled out the win.
Posted by: Tom | January 19, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
it’s a sad state of affairs, it’s all media manipulated. we are puppets of the drooling greedy morbidly obese corporate giants, and they ain’t sleepin’…
Posted by: lori | January 19, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
How can you say Hillary wins big in NEvada when Obama gets more delegates. Thats like saying Al Gore wins big in 2000 becuase he led the popular vote. Seems like Obama should be the one being declared the winner on TV.
Posted by: jeremiah morehead | January 19, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
All we have to do is hang in there and fight to the end. Obama is leading the campaign with +1 delegate votes. No Clinton for me.
Posted by: Kurt Eric Munroe | January 19, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Hillary may have hit the jackpot but Obama gets the delegates! Brain versus brawl. What a master stroke that praise of Ronald Reagan turned out to be by Barack Obama. The true winner in Nevada!
Posted by: Ricardo | January 19, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Well, Clinton *was* shameless to try and supress the votes of the culinary workers. And she *is* shameless playing the race card. For the sake of a possible victory she has sold the remains of her soul, and is causing incalculable damage to the Democratic party.
Her integrity is zero. Those cynical Democrats who realise this and nonetheless support her in the belief these tactics would work in the general elections delude themselves. In the general Republicans and Independents will vote against her, and all those young first time voters that Obama managed to come and vote in the Democratic primaries will not vote for such a dirty winner.
Posted by: Guy | January 19, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Obama left for Chicago before the Nevada Caucuses started in the morning. Something on fire in his back yard? If you are following Political Punch, it is Tony Rezko, a long time friend, in trouble. Comparing to the potential reveal of the dirty dealings of the two, a lose in Nevada is really nothing.
Posted by: JL | January 19, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Well. Hillary played the race card well. She played the victim well. And she played dirty well. But she appealed to core, Democratic women not so well. She won them, yes, and in the process, the Nevada popular vote. But she lost the Nevada delegate count. And she is vulnerable, if Obama plays the gender card. He needs to paint her into that corner…women (mostly older and white) voting for the woman. Most of his support will stay with him, there is still a huge chunk of the population that wouldn’t vote for Hillary for dog catcher, and he can point to his broader appeal to attract undecideds. He can do it just like Hillary played the race card—start talking about women, in particular, talk about her as a woman a few times, and directly appeal to women who care more about the issues than a candidate’s gender. That will shine the spotlight on Hillary’s poor base of core support. And, oh yes—watch out for the next dirty Clinton trick. It’s coming, before South Carolina next week.
Posted by: SteveW | January 19, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
I find it very interesting that the media is hyping Sen. Clinton’s wins in New Hampshire and Nevada. Yet according to ABCNews (and several other sources), Sen. Obama out gained her in delegates in BOTH states: NH: Obama 12 – Clinton 11; NV: Obama 13 – Clinton 12. In the three states that have had delgates up for grabs (IA, NH and NV), the delegate count is Obama 43 and Clinton 39. Having said that, ABCNews is showing a total delegate count — including delegates selected in states that have yet to hold primaries or caucuses — of Clinton 203 and Obama 148. Edwards has 43 delegates.
Unless John Edwards wins in South Carolina (he’s currently trailing Clinton by 28 points) or Florida (he’s currently trailing Clinton by 37 points), he is probably done. While a sweep of the southern states on Feb 5, would put him back in the race, I doubt he could win any of those states if he can’t win in his home state of South Carolina.
Posted by: James Danley | January 20, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Bush proposal to get out of the recession. he always wants to give the most money to the rich, who have everything,but it is the poor people who should get more money, due to they would be the ones to buy more a boost the economy. whre rich wont spend, and boost the economy, they would save, because they are greedy.
Posted by: Juanita | January 20, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
what was the reason obama, never agreed to Iraq, to look for weapons of mass destruction.IF his Dad is Muslin, you would think he would try and help his people out. and why did his middle name become Hussein?
Posted by: Juanita | January 20, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
It seems that the noisiest groups are the Obama losers. Whining and acusing. Just show your candidate that he is the electable and win. I am sure Obama supporters will be very noisy next week when they will win South Carolina. That is a given. But what if he loses or Hillary will lose with very narrow margin. What can these Obamans brag about now?
Posted by: vidiii | January 20, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Well well now that we at this point we will have to see where this take us, after that little fight on how the politically incorrect of the dem’s party would think that the treat’ment of the blacks and women one would thank that the dem’s have sticky problem when they put the blacks voter againt the woman’s vote. this how it look down here, but the poll’s seen to thaik that they want women president before a black president.
Posted by: jesse anderson | January 20, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
forget about tells. Lets talk about playing the cards you are dealt. Obama had union backing, and he still lost, not because he was unlucky, but because he was outplayed. Maybe there’s something to be said for keeping the desk clean after all.
Posted by: cordelia525 | January 20, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
“There ain’t no white people in Iowa”
guess who said that?????
hint, first name Michelle. too easy huh
Posted by: geevill | January 20, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Juanita, you wrote: “Bush proposal to get out of the recession. he always wants to give the most money to the rich, who have everything…”
First of all, President Bush has yet to announce the specifics of his stimulus plan. But if his plan is as many are reporting, it is expected to be primarily a tax rebate. That every person who paid income taxes in 2007 would received a rebate check. The amounts being discussed in the media are $800 per individual and $1,600 per couple. To say that mostly the wealthy will receive money is incorrect.
Posted by: James Danley | January 20, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
To the media: Bill Moyers recently did a shocking documentary detailing the widespread complicity and admissions of the American news media; who failed to do their due diligence to investigate the Bush/Cheney propaganda which has led to the destructive war in Iraq. The summary is located at
Unfortunately the media was not scared straight by embarrassment because they continue their sophomoric strategies producing their Enquire-esque video and print media. Many of the media outlets are biased towards the Clintons i.e. Bill lies, Hillary explains, blames Barack, and the media blinks. Lots of Hillary coverage, headline with a positive spins, and trust that the American people can’t add two plus two, nor can understand what they read. Some of us see that you have deep sixed Barack hoping out of sight out of mind will work. The American People are sick of the status quo, the hack politicians and the likes of you.
Posted by: aprendi | January 20, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Bill is the laughing stock of the world, can America afford to have him back in the White House doing the same ol things? He has no business meddling in Hillary’s run for office.
Posted by: Jean | January 20, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Jean says ” Bill is the laughing stock of the world…”.
If you meant his extramarital affairs, then you are wrong. Almost all politicians in Europe and Asia having mistresses, no one laugh at you if you have one, but you might get laugh at if you don’t.
When I was living in Britain in the 80′s, Ronald Reagan was the laughing stock, because he was considered as dumb. Nowadays, G.W. Bush is the laughing stock for the same reason.
Bill may be laughing stock for some in America, but certainly not in the world, unless meant America when you say “world”.
Posted by: JL | January 20, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Complain about Black Americans voting for someone just because they are black, please….and women are not voting for Hillary because she’s a woman…I think not! Get real America. 50% of this country do not know who they are voting for and what the policies of these folks are! Blacks have voted a straight Party ticket of Dems for almost 80 years. Where has it gotten them. Dems love Blacks as long as they vote ‘right’ and stay in their place.
GO Barack! Break that glass ceiling and try for all you can get! It will help America become a better country, and open the eyes and hearts of many! Look at the candidates. Hear their words, not the media’s. Stop doing what others tell you you should do. Listen to your own ears, value your eyes, use your brain and trust your heart! No more dynasties!
RTG2007
Posted by: bob Greene | January 21, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
I’m going to vote for who ever can make this a better country. I say that to say this we spending all that money over there in that war over iraq when we have a war going on right here in the usa. They need to use some of that money to help us. The cost of living is going up and so is our murder rate. People are so desperate now that they are doing whatever they have to for a couple of dollars. We need more jobs and everything else. Now who can change that. We have billions of dollars to giveaway each year in grants but they make it so hard for people to be able to get them with out the run around. We need to fix our country now and bring our soldiers home where they belong. Now who agree with me on that one.
Posted by: Love | January 21, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
I am a supporter of Barack AND Hillary. “Hussein”, big deal. He’s seems genuine and has the energy I like to see, but we have to face facts. Politics IS a dirty game and as the saying goes it’s not what you know, it’s who you know. Hillary has been with Bill for the whole ride: Attorney General, Governor, 8 years in the White House, and elected to a second term as Senator from New York.
Bill did a great job and left this President with a Surplus of $236 Billion Dollars in 2000.(see the national debt monitor spinning like crazy at over $9.2 TRILLION Dollars as of 1/20/08.) It will be a great team Hillary in office, Bill as an ambassador of peace to regain the respect of the world AND Obama in office as Vice-President.
As VP Obama will gain the knowledge, get to know the right people and use that position as a strong foundation towards his Prsidency in 2016. I just hope he (or she) will accept the VP job if offered by one or the other and SHOULD be offered to each other for REAL CHANGE IN AMERICA! Economy, Health Care for ALL, Clean up the mess in Iraq, and bring jobs back to AMERICA!
Go Hillary’08 and Go Obama’16
Posted by: TWilkinson | January 21, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
TWilkinson – What you reading too much of the Leftist talking points!! First what jobs are missing in the US Remember we have a surplus of jobs, I mean you libs want all the illegals to come into my country to work becasue their are jobs Americans will not do!!
And actually the deficit is lower then it was under Clinton, there was never a surplus! (taking from one pocket and putting it in another is not a surplus)
jeremiah so true I wish someone would explain how that happened!
for you people who are falling for the clean image of Obama well I have a Bridges to sell you, send money to –
I find it a shame that Obama was pushing for Voter intimidation and Fraud by haveing the Caucuses in the hotels under the supervision of the union bosses who support Obama, yeah right the employee is going to vote against their union boss!!
And I guess the illegals did not show up in force to vote for Obama neither and that is why he lost the popular vote!!
Obama is a fraud!
Posted by: spock | January 22, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
Looks like HRC reaching out to ex-strippers in the picture.
Yep – she’s got all the bases covered. Got love her.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | January 22, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am