Hillary to Obama: You’re No JFK (or MLK)

My thoughts are that her initial comments were so bad that she is hoping this will be the story instead of her initial remarks. Hillary thinks of every thing from the top down instead of the bottom up. There would have never been a Civil Right Act without MLK and the civil rights movement.

HRC is saying that words cannot inspire when someone is without experience. however, Martin Luther King led a movement with wisdom and words when he was without major offices or titles.
Hillary will go no where trying to deflate the hopes and dreams of America. If this is a glimpse of what she is to offer voters, then it is no wonder she is getting killed. Americans are tired of partisanship and divisive politics. She is the poster child for both.
What does she think about RFK? He was an attorney then his brother’s attorney general. Does Hillary also think he had no business running for President?
I wonder what she thinks about Richard Nixon. There was probably no one more “ready to lead on day one”.

Jake, I still don’t see what you’re trying to prove besides that you don’t want Hillary to be our president based on your own personal reasons. Could you possibly report something worth reading as a good news reporter would do as opposed to a bad one? She is simply stating facts while you on the other hand are trying to spin facts in Obama’s favor by insinuating something. Obama hasn’t proven anything besides the fact that he does what any really bad politician does really well and that is to talk alot about things people want to hear without actually doing anything or having done anything. Big deal, so he’s the typical smooth talking bad politician who already wants to be categorized with MLK and other great leaders. Obama hasn’t done anything. All he’s proven so far is that he’s great at convincing people who have problems deciding who to vote for and people who see the current state of this country in a very different light due to their inexperience.

JFK had never been to the moon, but he made us all want to get there. I am no fan of Obama. He has too many smarmy ties to the Chicago politcal machine of Mayor Daley and his VERY UNSAVORY contributors, like indicted fundraiser Antoin “Tony” Rezko. But Hillary is just too much. She and her equally disingenuous husband nauseate me. She can spend her twilight years keeping him on a very short leash.

If you go back and read both the statement she was introduced with (earlier in the day, the assassination comment), and her actually blowing of Martin Luthor King, I think she’s in serious damage control.
Frankly, this woman wants the presidency so bad, she’s going to say and do anything, and she’s starting to fall apart.
I was sympathetic to Hillary – I did vote for her for Senate – but not now. She’s cracking.

I was feeling sorry for Senator Clinton early in the day. I saw heard her voice crack and her tired eyes and felt for her. But after reading this, I’m really mad at her.
Obama is inspiring. Obama is uplifting and makes me want to stand up and let my voice heard.
She has lost me forever after that comment.

HRC is playing everyone, she is playing the victim. She is looking more and more desperate as her polls drop. She doesn’t look presidential she looks pathetic. Is she going to cry in every state, this is onlt the first 2? Your news is giving her a lot of play and Bill complains he must be paying you all greatly. It really seens slanted to her on your news. I am a female, I would love a women someday just not her, her husband isn;t helping her, maybe if she left him we might be thinking differently. She has her daughter up there trying to help her get the young vote because she is most appealing to over weight, 60 year old women. Her daughter doesn’t look like she is enjoing herself, she looks like she is being made to be their or she will lose her saving account.

The media is slanted in HER favor? OMG, what planet are YOU from?

Yep, you’re right, words do have power and when the media and others use that power to continually attack a woman like Hillary, they are doing a great deal of harm to this country and to women all over the world.

The change in tactics, a convenient emotional moment, and now more negative comments. . .looks like a sinking ship to me.

JFK was told he was too young and too inexperienced to be president. Bobby Kennedy rode the coattails of his brother to get a nomination and win in New York….sound familiar?

i find it amazing that people want hilliary as president. Do you realize that if she is elected, nothing will get done? It would be another 4 years of mudslinging back and forth from the republicans and democrats. It takes everyone working together to get things done in washington and she would only alienate the republicans with more partisan politics. She is the most hated woman from half of america and the republicans in washiIngton. She is hated almost as much as bush. I have heard from so many republicans that really don’t care for any of the candidates and don’t care if obama wins. But if hillary win the nomination that will definatley galvanize that base to vote against her to make sure she and bill don’t return to the whitehouse. A lot of people don’t trust her because she owe folks favors up in dc and I think it would effect decisions she would make for america. OBama is young, fresh and hungry to make changes and unite this country as one. He hasn’t been tainted and he wants to work with ALL affliations republicans, democrats, independents, whites, blacks, asian, hispanics, etc. I can see him having a rainbow coalition on his cabinet. I wouldn’t be surprised if he got an independent running mate to show america he wants to unite and work together as one to solve americas problems.

I do not understand why she thought she is the only best suited for the job? They want the White House because they like power and nothing will be done if she is elected.We do not another Bush or Clinton for this job.

Hillary is right. People comparing Obama and worst he comparing himself to JFK or Dr. King is outragious. Obama is nothing compared to them. I am a 4th generation of Black Americans and found his cockiness and words sometimes cynic and misleading. What does he knows about been a real African American? few years as a community service lawyer in Chicago dealing with unscrupulous landlords wont give him the reason to compare himself to Dr. King. He gotta stop!

Obama is so scared of facing his critics that he won’t even make an appearance on Fox News. If he actually gets nominated, he will be torn to pieces because he has no experience at dealing with criticism and believe you me, he will be attacked like you’ve never seen. People accuse Hillary of being polarizing, but wait till Obama becomes the frontrunner and anyone who doesn’t like him attacks him instead of Hillary. He’s minced meat.

Lanae:
If have of what you said comes to pass regarding the independence, running mate, and intentions of Obama… I’ll vote for him. The fact is the Dems will go after the Reps and vis-a-versa. The only way you’d avoid that is a third party/independent and then the Dem/Reps would team up for their common cause of re-establishing the status-quo. American politics is much like buildings that house the U.S. government. Noble design that was done with long ago… we just go through the motions: rather thoughtless.
Cheers!
SCB

TO THE FIRST POSTER: You criticize Obama for not appearing on FOX News? I seem to remember every single Dem candidate excluding Dennis K. wouldn’t go to debate on Fox. All of them were too cowardly to appear (including Hillary C). These are the people we want negotiating with America’s enemies???

With all of the coverage, both positive and Negative, that HRC is generating, maybe she should change her theme song to Ringo Starr’s “It Don’t Come Easy”?

Hillary is finally finding out how low the low-life democrats will go. She thought she was a dem leader and now she is being treated like trash. No surprise. She thought the Repubs were tough, but she is finding out that the dems will do anything for a victory, no matter how low. That’s why she was crying – she is finally realizing for example why Lieberman left the party – the so called leaders left in the Dems are vile.
Jim

When Katie Couric, or one of them, asked Hillary how she would deal with a loss, Hillary replied that she never ever considered that.
Well…she should have.
I have never seen such arrogance as in Hillary Clinton during all her debates. Her 35 years of EXPERIENCE? Give me a break! My husband is a full bird colonel and I have spent 25 years in his bed and as close to his work as Hillary. Hillary’s job as First Lady was no different from Ambassador’s wives, political wives, wealthy wives of successful men and yes, even Colonel’s wives. And advocacy roles and Good Will ambassadors and meetings with famous and high powered people, gives you experience in exactly those things. Unfortunately, we cannot “claim his experience” and expect to be competent to lead Brigades of thousands of men in war.
I would love to see a female as President but would consider it a disgrace that that woman would be Hillary Clinton.

So how did Hillary feel about her husband saying she was “tougher” than Nelson Mandela and Itzhak Rabin earlier in the day?
That’s pretty screwy, is it not? She’s okay with that comparison, but not with Obama’s far less brazen remark?
The article is on this page in the upper-left corner for those who missed it.

Hillary is Nurse Ratched. Some performance, getting in all her talking points while she was pretending to be emotionally vulnerable. Puhleez! IT’s all about Hillary with her.
I do not support Obama at this time, but I so get why he apeals to a larger audience than she does.

Jim– your comment is right on target. I am a Democrat and I have never expected to read or listening to the incredible negative attacks full of hatred and trash talking against another Democrat candidate, leaders, etc. It’s amazing! The irony is that Obama’s campaign is supposedly driving for change; but you cant change by destroying people or your own party.

Peter,
I was hoping someone who is a liberal would stand up and say that. Look at how uncivil it has all become. And one’s track record has nothing to do when there is a nomination on the line, etc. Where are all the phonies who supported Hillary before? Of course, some of the same happens on the Repub side, but they are often already portrayed as “evil”, where the dems are portrayed as nice and united, etc.
But Hillary is finding out the nitty gritty of running in a race where she can’t run again for at least 4 more years, and maybe 8 – meaning she may never have her chance at the White House, but it’s because of her own party, which I don’t think she ever thought would happen.
This is the sort of attacks that Bush has faced all 8 years in office – stupid name calling (i.e. “chimp”), stupid jokes about first and last names, etc. and then these people think they can lead a nation? You cannot get into a real debate with most dems, they just start calling you names.

Jake,
Is this story trying to create a guilt-complex in people?
Very similar to Israel Cohen techniques.
People have been besting their votes for merit-not color.
Obama’s win in Iowa proved that.
I’m sure you can stay away from this old cliché and report something that matters.
The fact is that the commission that had sponsored the Clinton’s before is now veering towards Obama.
You will see Hillary fade and all feel-good stories go to Obama, like how they went for Clinton back in the day.

America will not vote for a liberal black man named Hussein to be President.That is not bigoted statement but a calculation of the situation.

I don’t believe that Obama was comparing himself to MLK or JFK in any other way except to say that he is not offering up false hope as Clinton falsely suggested in the debate. I think it’s fair for him to point out that behind momentous changes in this nation’s history, the American people have dared to hope and dream with their leaders. And, in case you weren’t aware, there are a lot of American people who are beginning to do just that.

Rob, then explain how most of the lilywhite state of Iowa caught Obama-mania? Can’t be elected??? I believe the causus results speak differently.
The fact is that Obama is more likeable than an old woman who changes accents depending on the group she is addressing. Hillary is a brioken record of cliches and bad ideas. She as ridiculous as her husband. I wouldn’t vote for Hillary to be dog catcher.
The ‘unelectable’ liberal man is igniting American voters. He is destroying Hillary and it’s only going to get worse for her. By Super Tuesday her campaign will be all but dead. By November we won’t remember who Obama defeated to get to the White House.

I still don’t understand why politicians believe that attacking each other is what people want to see, or hear. It’s not.

A Chicago Democrat an agent for “change”? Come on, we know how Chicago politics works, and it’s not pretty, and it’s certainly not “change”. That’s all taxpayers will probably be left with though, if he gets elected: pocket change.
Back to the main question, Hillary was way out of line with that remark. Reminds me of that campaign staffer that got fired from her campaign for saying that the R’s were going to use his admitted drug use against him. (It happened, what…20 years ago? Come on!)

Obama is appealing, not only because he is eloquent and gracious, he is also without anger and hatred, at least what we see of him on TV. In that he is unlike Democrats who are most inspired by loathing Bush and Republicans who seem to be most motivated by hostility to and hatred for undocumented immigrants. That he is not consumed with anger and hatred in a political system that has come to thrive on the uglier side of American political and pop culture is something new, something hopeful, and an appeal to our better instincts. I doubt that I will vote for him because of the issues, but God bless him for showing us another way.

Words? What would Britain have done without the voice of Winston Churchill?
Point: I’m a Republican that’s never voted Democrat. I started talking about Obama last January. Not matter who wins the Republican nomination…I would vote for Obama.
Point: Read Obama’s book. Trust the heart behind the words.
Point: If Hillary became President I would go into mourning…black arm band for this country once again losing it’s
dignity.

As a conservative I find the comments interesting.There’s obviously a significant number of people within the democratic party that resents HRC for obvious reasons. Obama strikes me as a very intelligent guy and an excellent speaker. He also has very little baggage,represents the future and just seems like an all around great guy.—-However,I think he’s going to have his feet put to the fire bigtime in the not to distant future if or when he becomes the nominee. It’s amazing that a man who was in the Illinois state senate just a little over 3 years ago and who really hasn’t accomplished anything of note is the odds on favorite to become the next President of the United States.

She is self-destructing!

Dont rely on words.It may be false,illusive.Lies govern people’s lives.Facts are more inspiring,and that has been proven

The last time we, collectively, bought into and voted for a “change” candidates campaign, we got Jimmy Carter. Thanks, but no thanks!!!
Scenario, for President 2008, Democrat Obama, Republican who knows, Independent Bloomberg, Libertarian Paul. Results? Ron Paul or Bloomberg. Why? Total dissatisfaction with both Democrat and Republican candidates and one of the other gets elected. None of the Democrat or Republican candidates has either the experience or lack of “baggage” to become an effective president, Paul is an isolationist and Bloomberg is a socialist/nanny stater. This is the best that we can do?
We’re screwed!

Excuse me, but if you’ve watched her original statement, it looked a lot like she upheld that comparison of Obama to MLK and JFK. Furthermore, she even compared herself to LBJ, somewhat diminishing their role by implying that they were the ‘talkers’ while LBJ was the ‘doer’. To now attack Obama saying that he has equated himself to either one of these historic figures seems to me beyond absurd.

These few days after Iowa have been a sorry disaster for Clinton. First the loss in Iowa. Then her uncontrolled anger at the debate responding to Edwards. Then the teary-eyed “sorry-for-myself” being captured on camera, and now these poorly chosen remarks.
Of course, a week in politics is a year, and there are four more weeks to super Tuesday. She’ll do better at least one of those weeks, I’m sure

HILLARY AND BILL NEED TO REMEMBER THEY HAD THEIR CHANCE TO LEAD. PEOPLE SAY SHE HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING THAT MADE HER STATE BETTER. THEN SHE MOVED THERE SO SHE COULD RUN FOR SENATOR. 7,000 CHILDREN WITH FREE HEALTH CARE IS NOT A BIG NUMBER. 2,300 SERVICE PEOPLE WITH FREE HEALTH CARE IS NOT A BIG NUMBER FOR SOLDIERS EITHER? I SAID HILLARY AND BILL BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT’S WHO WILL RUN THE WHITE HOUSE. OBAMA CAN MAKE ANY KIND OF COMPARISON HE WANTS TO MAKE. WHE IS UPSET BECAUSE SHE CAN’T CLAIM THE SAME FOR HERSELF. WE KNOW KENNEDY AND KING WERE GREAT IN THEIR ERA AND MADE CHANGES. NOW JOHNSON DID SIGN THE BILL, HE HAD NO CHOICE BECAUSE THE WHITE ESTABLISHMENT KILLED J F KENNEDY. NOW!!!!!!!!!!!! WE ARE TIRED OF THE SAME OLD ESTABLISHMENT RUNNING THE WHITE HOUSE. WE NEED A CHANGE, A NEW FACE. WITH A NEW NAME. NOW YOU PEOPLE CAN MAKE THE MISTAKE AND START CALLING NAMES AND INSULT THE WRONG PEOPLE AND GET BLASTED. MS CLINTON NEEDS TO STAY CIVIL AND SHE MIGHT MAKE IT TO THE WHITE HOUSE. SHE NEEDS TO SAY WHAT SHE IS GOING TO DO AND LEAVE IT AT THAT, OR SHE WON’T MAKE IT AT ALL. SHE REALLY WILL BE CRYING. THE WAY THEY LIKE TO ATTACT YOU IS GOING TO BE THE PROBLEM FOR HER. NOTHING WILL CAN SAY WILL CHANGE PEOPLE’S MIND IF SHE CAN’T BE FAIR. THAT’S WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT AND THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE IT THEIR WAY NOT THE CLINTON WAY.

Oh come off it some of you this man confessed to doing coke in collage, you all made such a fuss over Bush party days but Obama is getting a free ride with this one why?? I cant recall any story of MLK doing drugs can any of you, so where are the standards for the presidency gone, doing drugs when you were young is acceptable now, ok well I will tell that you my young children its ok to throw caution to the wind when you are young but just clean up your act when you get older its acceptable. The more I listen to Obama he comes off as a phony riding the wave of being black and getting a free pass because everyone is handling him with kid gloves so they would not be called the ‘bad guys’. If he was white would anyone of you or the media refuse to question his pass I don’t think so, every news paper would of been already digging up the dirt on him but no one wants to go there. America must be the only nation in the world that wants to fight drugs but is willing to accept that their Presidents were once willing to dabble with it, this is really becoming to be the joke of the year.

SJ, you wrote: “…would of been already digging up the dirt on him (Sen. Obama) but no one wants to go there.” The Clinton — politics of personal destruction — Machine has been working overtime for months! If they haven’t found it, there may not be anything out there to find. Now as for Sen. Obama’s use of drugs as a youth, he woke up one day and realized he was on a path of self destruction. He made the very wise decision to quit using drugs and turned his life around. That is one CHANGE that has been very positive in his life. The fact that he has been very open about this is a sign of great character.

C’mon. While I stand for Obama, do you all really think he has a chance? The rallying cry for the Dem establishment has already been sounded and they are gathering to prepare the so called “firewall” for Hillary. Hillary will win because the media, the big money corporate leaders, and the powers to be will push her to the top and make sure she will win. The small guy or middle class really don’t have a voice but will say what they are told to say by the powers to be. At the moment, they are being told that Hillary is really sensitive, she cares, she loves us, is best for us….etc. So we will repeat this and ultimately vote for her. Whereas Mr. Obama gives us hope that we can someday voice our own opinions and not just deal with the status quo. No, I don’t think he is the saviour, but he is better than the 20 year dynasty we’ve had with the Bushes and Clintons. Do we really want 4 or 8 more years of this? Is that really change? Can she really say she will operate in a totally different fashion as co-president with Bill?

Dissing JFK, RFK, and MLK’ all three who are greatly loved by pretty much everyone in America. For South Carolina that may be the straw that breaks her political back.
I am voting for OBAMA. Hillary keep digging that hole for yourself.

American voters need to wake up. This is not American Idol. We need someone who can run the country and I see nothing in Obama’s past that will provide that. He has nice speeches but I can get that in any history book. Could american voters really be stupid enough to elect Bush twice and then Obama? Ugh…

I’m almost 50, and find myself taken up by the Obama phenomenon. Almost embarrassed by it–but taken up. He is tapping into the civic religion, in a powerful way, and into a widespread desire to leave behind what have been a depressing two decades in American political public life. Clinton’s hamhandedness in attempting to deflate Obama–she hasn’t laid a glove on him–is a reminder of an important fact: she is simply not a political natural, something that would limit her effectiveness as president. Her run-as-an-incumbent strategy and lack of a plan B also reveal poor political judgement.

I don’t recall Obama calling himself MLK or JFK– But I do recall your husband, Mrs. Clinton comparing you to Mr. Nelson Mandela– disgusting for you to throw this garbage out– after Bill calling you better than Nelson mandela . Here comes the Clinton smear machine again.
Hold on for this disgusting ride of smear and run

What ever happened to the good old standards that our president should not have a blemish to their name, be a boy scout, have a good military background if possible, and all the other things we as a nation use to stand for ? Geez come on people this is the post for the President of the USA, not a 3rd world country. So we are now willing to accept ok this guy cleaned up his act so he is now viable? What America is now so short of good material we are all willing to overlook these spots and take whatever reasons are given in order to find someone to fill the gap? Well then why are some of you making such a fuss over what Bill did and asking Hillary to pay for it, what did she do? Why are all the Republican candidates being held under a microscope because of thing Bush may have done and you don’t approve of? Seems to me a lot of you don’t want to ask exactly what can this man Obama bring to the table because you cant say exactly what that is, you are just praying he brings something,no wonder I young people of so confused, standards are set at the top, once we accept anything just for change, and dropping the bar on what is acceptable or not in the end we end up losing everything.

Would those who believe Senator Obama has no experience please read up on his experience? He has an extremely impressive track record of forging alliances with republicans to get good, solid legislation passed. What I also find impressive is his lack of grandstanding. He entered the U.S. Senate with all expecting him to act too big for his britches, as he’d become a Democratic darling and national figure before even setting foot on the Senate floor. He has done anything but that.
A good place to start reading:

Pat, I’m looking for info on Obama’s experience. All I see is 3 years in senate. That is the best we can offer for the leader of the US. I can quote historic leaders till I’m blue in the face but that does not qualify me to be president. I’m Democrat but if Obama wins the primary I’ll vote for someone who’s accomplished something like Romney or McCain. At this rate the Democratic party will disolve into obscurity.

obama never claimed to be JFK or MLK… if anything the comparison made in relation to Obama is RFK… and that is not misplaced becaused he created the kind of exictment RFK made in his day.

I am an Indian and by that confession I was hoping to prove my credentials as being un-biased. I have lived most of my life in different countries of the Middle-East and India. I have never set foot in U.S
I don’t think you truly understand the importance the world attaches to your election process. The person who occupies the White House has the power to change the world for better or for worse. I think I can speak for a lot of people when I say that a lot of harm has been done in the past few years.
The world is disillusioned with your country. It needs to heal. Hate can not and must not win. Words are all u might have to judge your candidates. But truly, thats all u’ll ever get. Past record is useless. Words show intent. They show a promise of what can be. A dream if nothing else is better than a reality that burns.
I truly hope you choose Obama.

Your comments are well taken AJ. I think most people realize the damage Bush has done to our standing throughout the world. It is also important to realize the reason Bush has done this is because he is incompetent and should have never been elected to a position he was not qualified for — and thus we should not repeat this process based on a sound bite.

First of all Obama didn’t compare himself to MLK and JFK.
Secondly. I’m from Iowa and got 3 negative phone calls from the Clinton campaign. It did nothing but make me more determined to caucus for Obama.
Obama is getting the Independent vote, the “white” vote, the “old” (like me) vote, the women’s vote, the “black” vote and even some Republicans – they showed up in my Ward and changed their registration (amazing!). This guy can win and he can do the job. Only those who haven’t researched this guy think he can’t win.

HILLARY IS RIGHT. OBAMA HAS A WAY TO GO TO KNOW WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON. COMMON SENSE HERE PLEASE…GREG

Whatever he meant when Obama said that his wife will not let him run for presidency if he didn’t win this time. That four years from now he will be a different person! Things would have chnaged! I thought he ws running to bring change int he white house but is already fearing himself being changed once he gets there or if he doesn’t get there. if he has tru passion to help poeple he should keep working towards helping others no mateer what and when the time come to run again, shouldn’t he run again. Or would he have “Changed” then? So I guess now or never. Whatever! This doesn’t sit well with me.

Oh, and all this boohoo piddly stuff about race? NOT a big issue to folks under 40, NOT a real concern for me, and is small minded to call him BLACK! He was raised multi ethnically, mostly white. Funny thing about how entrenched PREJUDICE is here in our backwards country called USA.. if someone has ANY African Blood, they are Black.. unless the “pass”. Whatever. funny thing is that you can go to Islands in the Carib that are almost all WHITE! However, once you get there, everyone is dark skinned just about! Why? Well, THERE if you have any WHITE blood, you are WHITE! So lots of Black White people in the Carib, and lots of racist White people up here. Seriously, think about your built in prejudices.. Obama is a talented man who happens to be half African/half White.. He is NOT a black man.. and there ARE no black men in the world.. only ones that are men, that happen to be black.
If experience gets us what we have, more and more countries and people in them hating America, an empowered and vitalized terrorist population, a broken economy, a broken health care system, then I sure want LESS of THAT kind of experience. What we need is wisdom.. Experience only helps when you deal with the same situations.. Wisdom helps all the time. When all the characters in this crazy puppet play were presented the same information, and most went for war, and a few, seeing the same information, came to a radically different (and now proven to be CORRECT!) conclusion, then it is fair to say that the latter are WISER than the former. Obama is WISER than Hillary. He also has more experience in public office (DISREGARD FIRST LADY time!), is smarter (top of his class), and most important (and obvious from the news!), he ENCOURAGES people! He has charisma. He has a public mandate. And.. he has WISDOM. Hillary does not.. she also sucks up so much PAC money I am surprised we don’t hear the sucking noise out here in Colorado (wait, I think I do).
Clinton IS yesterdays news. She is NOT an agent of change, she is only picking up that “selling point” due to the success of the candidates who did it first! She shows up with Albright, her husband, all their old cronies from DC and claims to be for change? I think not. Experience, or that is what they call it, got us INTO this mess.. we need a better way, not more of the same way. And Obama was up front about that from the get go, now others jump on that bandwagon. Edwards also has a great message, one I agree with, but Obama saying he will “clean house” and remove ANY influence from the rich and corporations from DC is why he gets my vote, as that has perverted our government.. which is of the people, by the people, and for the people, NOT of the rich, by the rich, for the rich! Ron Paul is also a very credible guy, though considering that every other first world country has national health, better benefits, AND a better standard of living and life span, you gotta wonder if he is right about limiting government.. but heck, anything is better than more Bush, or Bush copies, like Mitt dingleberry Romney (a snake oil salesmen!), Guiliani (what a nut, no character, just lots of free PR from 911).. McCain I respect.. and he is feared by many in Congress, they call him a loose cannon .. which in my mind means that he doesn’t play the same game they do, which is suck money out of us. Well, we will see how it plays out, but I do not see Hillary as deserving of nomination.. she has unearned fame from her husband, LESS experience than Obama (add up the years, and do NOT count First Chick time), not a standout in what she has done, not a visionary (actually throws stones at ones who ARE!) which we need, and really not engaging.. Obama is interesting enough that I changed my party affiliation from Independent (used to be Libertarian) to Democrat so I can vote in the Feb5 Colorado Caucus for Obama.. and that says something, got off my lazy butt and scheduled it in.
Wisdom…. we can all agree it matters, but what is it? When you look back, into the past, and find that all were presented with the same information about Iraq, and most decided War was the Answer, a few said it would be a mistake, and the former are proved wrong, and the latter correct, then the latter are proven to be wiser. Hillary is not wise, just a lemming. Hillary talks a good line, but in reality, she doesn’t have even as much experience (in public office) as does Obama (I do NOT count First chick time), what experience she does have doesn’t show much vision or wisdom, and her fame is due to transferance from her husband, and NOT earned by her own acts! Pay attention to that! And Obama? the more folks get to know him, the more they like him.. every bit of gain he has made was earned, not picked up by marriage. I don’t WANT more of the same.. I want vision, I want an end to the PACs and corporate buyoffs, money owning our systems, and that is Obama, or just about anybody other than Clinton! I also agree with Edwards a good bit, an ideal ticket would be Obama / Edwards.. Edwards is the mechanic, Obama the visionary, make it happen!

OBAMA in 2008

If we were in any way serious about electing presidents, Bush, a fifth-rate thinker controlled by powerful others, would not be in the White House. Let’s face it, there have only been about four decent people, historic, important, wise, empowered, self-determined individuals in office as Prez who accomplished nation-saving tasks: FDR, George Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and LBJ who was forced to accomplish what he did by the civil rights movement and Viet War opposers. The rest have been either ordinary men, fools, or dreamers not up to the historic moment, or the ones killed off too soon: Woodrow Wilson, Teddy R.,JFK.
The office has always been open to the “man of the hour”–the one whose destiny has forced open a spot for him. Hillary’s destiny is not for this moment. Her mistake was in assuming it was.

Well, Hillary Clinton is no Coretta Scott King and no Jackie Kennedy so I guess they’re even, except for the fact that she’s campaigning as the establishment candidate and the Democrats are showing up in record numbers to knock the establishment down.

OBAMA AND HIS POETRY IS NOT GOING TO KEEP FAKING THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES.OBAMA HAS BEEN EXPOSED.THE REAL TRUTH IS NOW GOING TO COME OUT.HIS CHOICE FOLKS.

CHANGE is not about riding a WAVE, but going against the TIDE
It’s about challenging status quo, swimming upstream when everyone else is going down. It’s about THINKING for yourself and not doing something because someone on TV told you so.
It’s about showing endurance over years and years of experience, hard work and commitment.
So what the heck is this wave of change Barack Hussein Obama is babbling about??

When I hear Obama speak, all I hear is cliches….”We have to lift ourselves up!…A new day has come…”-Obama…. blah blah blah
Can America be so foolish to elect a man of such relatively little experience and tested challenges? Is this country best served by having IOWA and NH start this off? I am tearing up because my country is going down the tubes and if Hilary can cry..so can I.

Name what Hillary has done in the Senate to enact change.
Nothing.
She’s a no nothing, do nothing Senator.
I’ve been mostly a lifelong Democrat, although have voted for a Republican or two on occasion. Pataki as Governor was a decent administrator with a noted exemplary record on environmental issues. McCain has a sense of independence which I respect.
I do not want another Republican in the White House and I don’t want a Hillarycrite in there either.
Obama all the way!!

IF WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE PRESIDENTS IN THE PAST, WHAT DOES EXPERIENCE HAVE TO DO WITH IT, DOES THAT REALLY MAKE A GOOD PRESIDENT? LOOK AT ALL THE EXPERIENCE BUSH HAS, ETC, ETC ???, NEED I SAY MORE. EXPERIENCE COMES IN GETTING THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO WORK FOR YOU, PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO LISTEN TO OTHER PEOPLE’S IDEAS AND BELIEFS, A GOOD PRESIDENT IS A GOOD ADMINISTRATOR, LETTING PEOPLE DO THEIR JOB AND LISTENING TO THOSE YOU HIRED WHO SPECIAIZE IN WHAT THEY DO.

“Can America be so foolish to elect a man of such relatively little experience and tested challenges?”<–What "experience" and "tested challenges" does Chillary have? Obama was a state Senator for eight years before being elected a U.S. Senator. He has *MORE* experience than that fraud, Chillary, with the "35-years" lie about her so-called experience. Is that woman even CAPABLE of telling the truth?

Someone said what is Obama saying and I ask you, what is Hillary saying.nothing and if you go for those staged tears you will go for anything.I hate to say it women, just because she is a womwn is no reason to vote for her……

I don’t know if anyone has noticed, but Obama doesn’t need speech writers. I’d be willing to bet that he writes all his own speeches. Do you ever see him looking reading a prepared speech? He either memorizes them or just speaks directly from his heart without the need of written reminders. I say that people should watch this and see if they notice this as well. It says alot about a candidate if they write there own speeches, not some drivel written up by a surrogate

Dr BLT to Hillary:
If at first you don’t Succeed (Cry, Cry Again)

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If you want to determine how independent a thinker HRC is, just compare her comments to the media when she’s campaigning alone with those when Wild Willie there with her. She is a proxy Presidential candidate, just as she has been a proxy wife all these years. Theirs is a marriage of convenience, and I’m betting Bill hopes she loses, because the word outside is that they are headed to divorce court if she loses. I also invoked the memory of her tears over the weekend. That rogue cop who killed his lover and her unborn baby also tried tears too. Took a page from the Hillary Clinton Public Relations textbook. Problem for him was he’s a male, she’s not. So…guilty verdict…end of story. Hillary is a sham, and so is her philandering husband. We stupidly voted them in twice, and I’m fearful that we’re just as stupid now. I WILL say that this time it doesn’t really matter who wins. Whether it is Clinton, Obama OR McCain, America loses. So, flip a coin, throw a dart at a voting guide and cast your ballot for the loser du jour.

Hillary is a huge fake!! She has not done anything worth mentioning besides crying!!
Obama is the way to go folks! He has the leadership skills to bring this country together and end lift us back up.

Ray: What have you been smoking? Obama doesn’t know the first thing about leadership. And Obama talking about uniting the country? Give me a break. No president can unite a country. People are people and they have to learn to get along with each other. That’s how to unite. Its dummies like you that eat up his garbage and he has all this generation believing what he says. Get a grip on life. He is a first class liar and a copier of others speeches. Apparently college didn’t do anything for him. He needs to go back.

Dr BLT: And its you that will be crying if Hillary gets the nomination. By the way did your mother every cry or does she just laugh at everything that’s not funny.

UA: You mean Obama’s false statements that he has people like you that don’t know any better eating up his garbage? Educated? On what leg. He doesn’t have enough experience to become president of our country and if he wins the nomination McCain will wipe him out. He is a liar, a fake and can’t think for himself that’s why he copies the speeches of JFK, RFK & MLK. He gratulated college and it did nothing for him. Get a grip on life and wake up.

COCO: What is so christian about Obama the Muslim. Of course he is a Muslim but doesn’t want anyone to know the real truth. For your information he belongs to a church that does not like white people. Where have you been? That church is all black and and praises the leadership of Farrakah. He has people like you and many of this young generation fooled but he doesn;t have me fooled. I can read him like a book without the cover. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Whether Obama had permission from Patrick or not to use his words (which weren’t his to begin with since they belong to Lincoln and FDR), the horror is that Obama may not know who they belong to if he says Patrick allowed him to use them.
Electing a President who doesn’t know whose words he is using when he plagiarizes is even worse than the plagiarism.
Running for office using the words of former Presidents is not just deceptive, it is ignorant. What about all of the youth who hear those words and attribute them to Obama, or Patrick, not Lincoln or FDR?

What about all the poor youth who think Jimi Hendrix wrote “All Along the Watchtower?”
Give me a break! This is a non-issue.

“He gratulated college…”
He “gratulated,” did he?
From Columbia and then Harvard Law? And then was a professor at the University of Chicago? And then was a legislator for the next 11 years…which is longer than Hillary has been writing laws? And twice as long as George W. was in government before he became president?
Did you have a point, other than you know nothing beyond the chain emails you get sent?