Hillary’s Debate Moment

Sad sad Hillary…..worse than a Britany Breakdown….so much anger!

I’m a Republican and cannot stand Hillary but I see nothing wrong with her response.

Yes can you Clinton folks explain the 35 years of experience. I did not know she was senator of her longtime home state of New York.

Thsi is ridiculous. what was wrong with her response..making an issue out of nothing..
This is why politics suck..totally spinning things… she did zero wrong and even as a guy i can see the double standard…not one person will make a comment from the Repub debates how Romney got mad. or Giuliani or McCain But Hillary…you guys should be ashamed really.
It sucks that she is the smartest candidate by far but that is what is commented on…..gimme a break

Her true colors are beginning to show at last. The worst nightmare the U.S. could possibly endure would be Hillary Clinton.

Hillary is full of hate, and is not being very tolerant or diverse.

Her true colors are beginning to show at last. The worst nightmare the U.S. could possibly endure would be Hillary Clinton.

Amazing how fast Hillary’s people got to this post to flood it with spin. Hey John, Mark Penn will be proud (if he still has his job).
This is what she is ALL about. “Worship me. Praise me. Never EVER question me!”

I am a conservative, and I don’t have a problem with her tone on the response. Is this really a selling point against her? The tone and her quick response is fine, but seriously, 35 years experience??? do people buy that?

Sorry John, I guess it was Martha who had Mark Penn’s talking point.

Yes, I picked right up on her anger. It got in the way of the message. It is this quality of hers that would get in the way of leadership. She may be a good senator, but she is not leadership material for the
U.S. presidency.

I liked the debate because it was substantive but I found Hillary’s attacks on Obama personal and frankly disconcerting. I agree with you that it was very very strange and frankly I was recoiled.
But I was also disconcerted that she made condescending remark about Obama being very ‘likeable’. That was very low.

SOOOOOOOOOOO her true colors shine for once. Hillary is fine as long as her and Bill’s lies get play in the old media. Now that the media playing field has leveled she is losing it and I for one am loving it.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Be afraid(of her), be very afraid(of her)!!!!

I’m no fan of Hillary, but that’s the first time I’ve heard her speak and haven’t thought ‘fake’.

Hillary is definitely not the smartest candidate. Her anger is directed at people who disagree with her, as in how dare you, I am the queen. You don’t get mad at someone just over a disagreement when you are running for President. Holy smokes, this is just a dumb debate, how would she react if she were talking to some other world leader who disagreed with her. It has nothing to do with a double standard for a woman. If a man reacted that way, I would say the same thing. She is definitely NOT qualified to be the President of the U.S. Even though I am a woman, I am not going to vote for someone just because that person is a woman, how stupid. I have to say Bill Richardson does make Hillary look pretty smart, but Obama and Edwards make Hillary look pretty dumb and Richardson pretty much idiotic. Say good night Hillary.

One thing is for sure – it will be a cold day for me to vote for Hillary – HOWEVER, her response in the clip showed some intenstinal fortitude and her response to the nuclear war scenario was spot-on. I want a CINC to let the bad guys know if they nuke us, pay back will be on the way.
It will still take a lot for me to vote for her… Her husband’s abandonment of 19 of my fellow (TF) Rangers will never be forgiven.

Hmmm. . . well, I watched it live and I didn’t think of it as ‘anger’ at all. And I’m a conservative Republican who’s not naturally disposed to agree with or support Sen. Clinton, but actually I was impressed. Very. If she keeps talking like this, instead of parsing her words all the time she might actually have my support.

This debate changed my vote in Tuesday’s primary. I had firmly decided to vote for Hillary, but after tonight I’m scared of her temper and I will not vote for her. Where to go is the question? Maybe Richardson’s experience is the best place to go.

We have seen the Compassionate Hillary. We have seen the Forceful Hilary. We have seen the Visionary Hillary.
Tonight we saw the Whack-Job Hillary. Brittany Spears is going to have a roommate.
Did anyone understand what she was trying to say?

Hillary was insulting and rude? Excuse me, who said she was unlikable? Who has attacked her vote on Iraq at every single oppurtunity he can? She finally hits back and she is the angry one? Let me tell you something, we Hillary supporters are getting angry. Very. This is looking to be a split ticket folks, meaning you have insulted our candidate personally. If Osama wins the nomination, I will not vote for him. I will not lift a finger to help his candidacy, in fact for the first time in my life I will vote for someone other than a Democrat for president, count on it.

I’m a conservative republican who can’t stand Hillary, but her response seemed ok to me. I disagree with her about “going after” drug companies, insurance companies, blah, blah ,blah. Neverthless, as a previous poster noted, this is one of the few times she appeared genuine.

So she defended herself and spelled out her record… I think she handled herself well. I am a Republican and still won’t vote for her , nonetheless, she came across as tough. Good for her.

Wrong Fred; hate politics for Clinton(s) – Yes; hate politics for Bush – no. Like it or not, he’s been a gentileman in the White House (even to Ted Kennedy).

Hilary and the Clintons are over! 35 years of change? Well…what is the definition of “Change” She cant stand up to her womanizing husband, much less the fat cat, and some communist, funder raisers. She is really showing her true self, i.e. a mean viscious intolerant phony. Her negatives will climb.

I think Hillary is doing what we sure as hell would want her to do if she became president. Stand-up to wannabees. I was leaning Obama until I heard this. I am behind Hillary. She made a very good point. Plus – these people have not slept in days. Come off your arrogant post Mr. Writer.

In watching the clip I think Hillary is doing what we sure as hell would want her to do if she became president. Stand-up to wannabees. I was leaning Obama until I heard this. I am behind Hillary. She made a very good point. Plus – these people have not slept in days.

I watched the republican debate earlier in the evening as I will be voting for someone in the republican party for the first time in the 25 years I have been able to vote. I just watched the clip of Hillary Clinton and saw nothing wrong with her attitude. I watched Romney, McCain get nasty with each other and I don’t see anyone saying how nasty they are. Does it really matter if they made made nasty comments with a smile on their face? I don’t see anyone tearing them apart. Though I won’t be voting for Hillary Clinton because I am placing my vote based on two issues: illegal immigration and the jihad against America, I believe that she is being attacked because she is a woman and Bill Clinton’s wife.

Hillary Clinton was simply defending her record. She wasn’t getting all worked up, as you’d like your blog readers to believe. Stop trying to ‘create’ news.

Mary Casey, when you are copy and pasting Mark Penn’s talking points into the text box, you should add a little flavor to it. Otherwise, people will recognize it on the other post.

Regarding the “heated moment”, I thought she looked strong (though heated) and trying to turn this into her “Dean Scream” is think is a big stretch.

Ed….a balanced budget….peace…just to name a few.

Hillary reminds me of a shrill and nagging ex wife. Who would want that as President?

I’m as conservative as they come and I had no problem with what Mrs. Clinton said. She sounded like someone who was defending her record which any politician would do. I don’t agree with her on many issues but I think here she’s being judged far more harshly than a male candidate would be.

Next she’ll be telling us she invented the internet and giving us the Dean Scream: YAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHH

Sorry. I don’t see anything wrong with Hillary’s response.

HILLARY IS TOAST–DONE AND OVER WITH

What do you mean her behavior of late feeds into the “stereotype” about her? All it does is confirm what many of us already believe her to be underneath all that scripted acting in interviews, etc.

I am a Rep. I have seen the video and read some of the comments. I didn’t think she came off as angry. I have to agree w/ one of the comments, she actually sounded like she had some fortitude but at the same time she seems like she is doing alot of paddling and not getting anywhere. I have a distinct feeling that she is making a plea for her candidacy but she is not making the “CASE” for her candidacy.

Let’s review the bidding.
There’s Obama (a vaporous gasbag with the political program of Clement Atlee), Hilllary (a ruthless opportunist who carries her own star always before her), Edwards (a trial lawyer running, predictably enough, on the politics of grievance), Huckabee (who thinks the world is flat, literally), Romney (who, in case of injury, is going to expose all the wrong underwear in the ambulance), McCain (whose shameless impersonation of a Grumpy Old Man calls to mind Walter Matthau on a very bad day), Fred Thompson (amazingly lifelike, but no more than that) — and somewhere off in the mist, Al Gore (Nobelist, Oscar-winner, water buffalo — hoping against hope for a brokered convention).
Three hundred million people and this is the best the United States can come up with?

That was just a tiny peak at the sinister, angry and vengeful inner-Hillary that she wants noone to see. That was only like a 2.5 on her angry scale, out of 10. Behind the scenes, I’ll bet she surpasses that several times daily.
That was a little flash of the real Hillary. Not the phony niceness she tries so hard to project.

In fact, this was a strong moment for Hillary, that might be seen as a check on Obama’s and Edwards embrasure of “change” for its own sake without saying what they plan to do.
I didn’t at all see any loss of temper there on Hillary’s part. Her delivery was reminiscent of her husband’s, actually, when he feels himself under rhetorical siege (as he did from Chris Wallace a year or so back). She used emphatic, declarative, relatively short sentences. She got specific (number of years, actual examples).
As an Edwards supporter, I would hope Edwards responded to this effectively. It was a plain score on Hillary’s part.

I am a Republican trolling for news and came across this site. To clarify, I am a 68 year old woman whose entire life has been spent immersed in history, politics and philosopy.
I disagree with Mr. Tapper about Hillary’s anger. She was merely defending/embellishing her record. And, yes she knows that she is losing to the cool Obama. The problem is that Obama isn’t saying anything significant either, but he sure looks likeable. Do Americans really want to put someone in office who is promising so much with so little government money to pay for it. Democrats do not want to face the facts that Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid will devour all entitlements before long. Where are the real issues for the Democrats. What are they going to do to rid the world of terrorists. If they thing that the offer of talk with this type of enemy to achieve peace has any validity, just look back over the 60 year battle for Israel’s survival amongst these fanatics.
Get real people.

Seemed to me Edwards looked as if he was being scolded by his mother.
Good Job Hill and i’m a republican.
I think Huckabee looks very prepared and ready to lead this country.

nag nag nag

She basically just showed she can’t take the heat.

I did not know that experience=riding coattails……..
TURN OUT THE LIGHTS, THE PARTY’S OVER…THE NATIONAL CLINTON NIGHTMARE IS ALMOST OVER!!

Hillary is so 1996. The Queen who feels that we citizenry should award her the highest office in the land POTUS, has just become angry as hell on national TV allowing us peasants to see her true face in adversity.
This is just the tip of the iceberg.

I’m not sure she’s angry in this clip, but she does come across as frustrated that Democrat voters aren’t agreeing with her about her tremendous record on behalf of “change.” She failed to mention that Republicans have controlled the Presidency for 23 of the 35 years she’s been “creating change.” They probably deserve some of the credit as well.

Before I make any comment I should say I belong to neither side because I’m not an American (I’m Iranian in fact), but do follow American politics because I love America and believe it’s the beacon of freedom and democracy. But truth be told, I don’t see any problem with her response. I think it was firm and authentic. You should also keep in mind that as Diane said, this has been the longest presidential campaign in the world so far, and of course she MUST be fatigued at this point. On the other hand, for all the Obama talk and with all due respect to him, he wasn’t really that impressive at all. May God bless America and its democracy and help us experience it fully one day in Iran too.

I watched the debate. First I’ll disclose I’m supporting Obama.
Edwards smoked everyone. He was passionate, informed, and interesting.
Obama was good responding to Hillarys attack on health care but was just ok after that.
Hillary was awful. She seemed angry that voters aren’t buying into that she is the agent of change. She really hurt herself in this one.
Richardson was boring but he isn’t going anywhere anyway so who cares.

Hillary rage. Not a pretty site.

Rodham Clinton is an abomination. She’s shrill when people won’t agree with her stated position — that she is the most experienced person in the history of modern-day democracy running for office.
This woman is out of control and her ridiculous husband isn’t man enough to reign here in. Thankfully her campaign is going down in flames.

I am 100% behind Hillary Clinton. After months of belittleing, distorting her record and being used as a punching bag, the woman had enough. She was’nt out of control, but in control. She displayed passion and I pitty the terrorist or rogue leader who gets in her way. I applaud her for calling out Obama and Edward’s hypocricy. Put your money where your mouth is. The girls got spunk.

She didn’t win my vote tonight, but I found her reaction refreshingly authentic. She showed her exasperation that things aren’t falling into place according to the script — a human quality that’s been MIA in her campaigning and TV ads.
Overall, I thought Edwards had the best showing, but Obama’s message is pretty electric. For a liberal New Hampshirerite (no longer an oxymoron now that we’re a blue state), this is the right kind of problem to have!

I watched this live and was surpised by how angry she got. The other thing was her voice…worse than the Howard Dean scream. A grating sound I’m sure Bill has heard over and over again in their (so called) marriage. Does America really want to listen to her screaming at us for 4 years or, God forbid, 8? I think not!

Face it Kellogg, Hillary hasn’t seen any spunk since the 80′s.
That could be her problem.

I don’t like Hillary, but I think folks are nit picking at this point. I just watched the “offending” video. So what. So a candidate for prez got a bit prickly. So what.
Hillary’s problem now is that she can’t get away with anything that coming from another candidate would be deemed no big deal. She’s become such a lightening rod that anything she does is magnified a hundred times. Fortunately, this means she’s probably sunk.

It’s not a question of Hillary getting angry, but of getting ugly. I think ugliness transcends masculine/feminine stereotypes.
The whole problem is the focus of her response.
It’s not about the 7000 kids she helped or whatever other number of anonymous vets–it’s all about HILLARY. Can you imagine Gandhi speaking in such a way, or FDR? Or even Bill Clinton, for that matter?
If this isn’t supreme display of narcissism, entitlement and vanity–I don’t know what it is.
Plus, there’s a register in her voice like fingernails on a chalkboard.
She pays media advisers? Whoever’s sending money to her campaign should seriously consider how ill spent their donation have been.

These democrats all look angry and grumpy. Must be tough to talk about socialism all the time.

I extremely dislike Hillary Clinton, and therefore was excited to see a meltdown. However, it wasn’t as big of a deal as made out. I thought she did fine with her response and tone, much to my disappointment.

I would much rather have a beer with Bush than Gore. I also would much rather have Bush than Gore in the White House on 9/11. The left wing press bias is showing. Of course the national press is based in N.Y. and does not have a clue to what is going on in the so called Fly Over Country. Thats why they kept on saying Oh, Its going to be Hillary and Gulianne. Also I think Hillary has files on all the national press and they are scared to death of offending her. Thats why she is still in the race. All I can say is yes it is time for a change!

Obama offers real change….Hillary offers more of the same establishment get nothing done attitude.
I voted for Bush twice and will now vote for Obama!

Hillary Clinton — two works: A JOKE

Hillary Clinton — two words: A JOKE

Clinton is frustrated that she can’t win. It won’t be long before the stomps the ground and demands her blanky back.

Had any of the male candidates spoken to her like that women would be attacking him and the press would be writing scathing articles on the “incident”. Don’t believe me? think back to when she was running for office and her opponent stepped over to her podium with a paper for her to sign. The press wrote that he “agressively” went at her and then she had the sympathy of the women of New York and the pansy men who agreed to vote for her because of that.

First, I’m a big ultra conservative republican. I don’t see anything wrong here. It looks like Clinton is the only candidate on the Dem side with balls.
It actually is nice to see. All the scary socialist crazy stuff that Dems spew can be controlled by fillibusters. We need a strong president when it comes to stuff that only the president controls.
Hillary is the only one that doesn’t scare the crap out of me..

I hate Hillary, and it was obvious from the video that she was really fierce and got at those childish idiots who kept flopping around and lying about their past. Cool? Collected? Southern Draw? You mean sitting there like mute idiots? Wow, which video were you watching? She tore them apart.

Anger never works if it’s irrational.

Forget it Jake..

What would really represent change? How about following the Constitution? Stop paying it lip service!

Hillary had her Howard Dean moment tonight; she is finished. This race is going to come down between Obama and Edwards.

The thing that struck me was at the end of her rant, she turned and looked towards Richardson as if to say “save me, I am going to cry, everyones picking on me.” She even turned away from facing the front and she quickly turned her seat to face Richardson wanting all eyes to go to him. It appeared to me that she was trying to hide the fact that she knew that her face looked like she was going to cry!

I can’t stand Hillary.. And yeah I did recoil as soon as I heard her voice “Now wait a minute”

I’ve not read all of the comments above, but one item that does need to be addressed is Hillary’s claim that she was responsible for the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) — not hardly. I’d like to know how she did that when it was instituted prior to her becoming a member of Congress. I guess it all depends on what the definition of “was” is. Nothing but another lie.

Dems dodged acknowledging surge progress and their previous denials that it would work at all. GOP didn’t elaborate on Pakistan. Hillary looked scared and passive aggressive. Obama looked confident. Romney spent too much time “explaining”.

Seemed like a well reasoned response to me. All this nonspecific talk of “change change change” is really tiresom. I thought it was good how she outlined the change she has brought and will continue to bring…as senator or president.

I didn’t see the reaction.
Let’s be honest health care is a
touchy subject for her. She failed back in the 1990′s and doesn’t want to fail again.
So how did the other candidates do?

I am no hillary fan (John McCain is my pick) but the reactions to this is overblown. This is full blown anger? I think not. She was forceful- NOT a dean moment.

I want those 2 minutes of my life back—she wasn’t nearly as bad as the columnist said. It was a giant “so what!” Stop wasting my time.

What pray tell, is this 35 years of proof she spouts about? I’m sick of this hag preaching that her eight years with Slick Willy as First Lady equates to experience. By her definition, I have a great deal of experience in engineering, as I worked near engineers for six years as an accountant.
Read up on the facts people. This bill for health care for National Guardsmen only enhanced the coverage they already had. She did not provide health care to those lacking it. She has not seriously had to deal with foreign policy either.
Her “35 years” are calculated plans laid out to get her to where she is today. Need an elected position to prepare for a white house run?

All of these comments about sexism and the fact that she is a woman are completely ridiculous and defensive. Howard Dean was not a woman when he went into his famous screaming tirade and he did not get away with it because he was male. Her behavior is what it is regardless of her sex — insinuating that she is allowed because she is a woman is also absurd. It is meant to direct our attention from the real question. Do you really want Hillary Clinton to be the next US President? And further, do you really want 4/8 more years of the Clintons. The answer for me is a clear “NO”, “NEVER”, “FOR GOD’S SAKE NO”. I have had enough of deceitful, duplicitous politicians and the Clintons are the finest example of this in our country.
Now as a Republican I will say what I have said from day one. Go ahead and give her the nomination because I can’t wait to see the popular vote. It will be another landslide for the Republican party. What I really would like to see is an election with viable candidates who really want to see a change in this country. And lastly, would someone please start to talk about some real issues. If Hillary wanted change she would have made a change in her marriage years ago — she is not a going to give us anything new other than another entitlement program, perhaps even 2 of them. And you think you have trouble paying for healthcare now — just wait until she takes away even more of your hard earned money to give it to those she deems as more deserving. And trust me. She will.

She was close to crying. She is done.

Now that hillary is done, she should be forced to pay back the FEC the money she borrowed and return it to the american public tax funds.
Also is she for or against the defunding of the double fence at the border? that bill just got introduced and there is no press coverage of that. no one seems to care (mexican border)
12/19/2007
“Nothing in this paragraph shall require the Secretary of Homeland Security to install fencing, physical barriers, roads, lighting, cameras, and sensors in a particular location along an international border of the United States, if the Secretary determines that the use or placement of such resources is not the most appropriate means to achieve and maintain operational control over the international border at such location.”
I would like to ask our candidates what they think about that. Do they support illegal immigration?
True she is in the senate and this bill is in the House, but how long until her senate sees this it?
And i doubt she will even read it.
And yes she did look like she was going to cry, she really did.

Tapper’s summary of Hillary’s statements are way out of bounds. It’s crazy how I can watch a debate, only to hear the media spin things totally differently. This was a great debate for Hillary and Edwards; Obama fell flat. Hillary was 100% in the right for pointing out the Edwards “major accomplishment” never even was signed into law (patient bill of rights) or that neither Edwards and Obama have an accomplishment of any significance in the Senate. It would make any candidate a little forceful to hear their empty rhetoric and I’m glad she made her point in a forceful but focused manner.

Dak when has a survey been entirely fool proof, entirely accurate. Correlation does not equal causation, and surveys #s can be skewed. Not saying you are 100% wrong, but keep an open ear because this is by no means to ends of anyone but Edwards(he will prob be clinging as VP to Obama after doing his dirty work tonight)

RICHARDSON IS THE ONLY ONE ON THAT STAGE THAT IS QUALIFIED .HILLY’S DONE STICK A FORK IN HER

Judging by Mike’s post, it looks like Hillary (or her supporters) will try to use the “victim of sexism” shield instead of the “right wing conspiracy” shield.
I wish them luck on that, because it is totally going to backfire on them big time. Playing the victim is the worst possible strategy when running for President.

What Democratic Presidential Candidate are the shakedown artists supporting? (A.K.A. the Justice Brothers)
Rev. Al & Jesse

You are probably right Mike C in that the Rasmussen polling numbers will change after tonight’s debate but not to the extent she will be vaulted into a tie or winning position. She is just too polorizing. Did you see that perpetual smirk she carried all night long? People read that clearly. She will lose on Tuesday night, by how much, we’ll just have to wait.

Hillary is nothing but a megalomaniacal, spoiled, petulant martinet used to living on the taxpayers dole, and now that her “heir apparent” position is threatened, we see what a weak bully she really is. What happens when a commander-in-chief faces a REAL threat? Not this kind of childish reaction, heaven help us!

Not sure what all the fuss is about. She sure didn’t lose it, she was just showing she has more ball then the rest of them combined. What a sad lineup for the dems. Contrast it to the Repub debate and they look like a middle school bunch trying to be class president. None of them would even beat GW Bush if he could run again.

The only thing about Hillary that has changed in 35 years is the size of her south end and shedding her bandana for a pants-suit.
She has no experience (she carpetbagged to a shoe-in senatorial seat) in leadership. At best, she is yet another lawyer who takes positions based solely upon the polls (sound familiar Bill?)
She might be able to throw down her experience in covering up for Bill in an interview with the CIA but as for president, the last thing we need is someone who’s only point of worth on their resume lies in “covering up the truth”… (pardon the pun)
The whole lot of candidates is truly disappointing this year. Ron Paul is the only one with principle but he’s beaten down due to his strict adherence to The Constitution (Neither party really gets it anymore…)
/rant over/

There’s nothing to see here folks -

I do NOT want Hillary to be president.
I am an Independent who has voted both parties since 1976. I do NOT want Hillary to be president, not because she is a woman, but because I never liked her even one moment during the 8 years she was our First Lady in the White House.

Hilary scares the heck out of me. If the questions aren’t scripted in advance (which they are), she is clueless. Her and Bubba just need to go away, please just go away.

New Hampshire can’t take a collection to help 7000 children? And its state soldiers? Without DC getting involved?
Call the local Lions Club, it will help.
And churches, and Rotary, and Elks, and Toastmasters International, and Moose, and Red Cross, Salvation Army, and United Way and . . .

i thought HRC was going to blow a gasket and “Pull a Dean” there for a minute

John Edwards looks like Hillary Swank.

John Edwards is still bald.

That clip is so painfull; that is a Howard Dean Moment

Hillary looked like Mike Tyson at a Spelling Bee contest.

Hillary’s anger really screams of her perceived entitlement – Since 9/11 America tried to heal but got caught up in a revenge war (oil war to Bush cronies but revenge war for the people). The Washington insiders systematically divided America instead of offering Hope and Healing. Hillary is clearly a Washington insider – she will be a catalyst of divisive politics while Obama is truly the beacon of Change.

Congratulations to ABC, and Charles Gibson and his team for hosting a great debate. All the candidates did well on both sides considering the fact that they have all undergone some bruising and grueling schedules over the past few weeks.
It was a very special moment to have all the candidates on the stage being civil to each other. it was one of those simple moments that reminds me of what makes America great.
All the questions that were asked were fair game. Sometimes however, the media tries too hard to inject itself into the debate. Sen. Clinton gave a spirited answer to a question and here he is spinning it into something that it is not.
This is the time to deal with substantive issues that will allow citizens to make up their minds. It is certainly not the time to be trivial.

Fold up your tent Hillary.

This is really ridiculous. She just stated her views and listed her accomplishments in a poised and strong manner. She did not come off angry to me. The negative spin in the media on everything Hillary does is really appalling.

I am a 59 year old woman who would love to vote for a woman president but not Hillary Clinton. Real women stand on their own two feet and do the work themselves. I still cannot figure out who Hillary is without Bill. She does not have 35 years of her own experience. She has given us a failed health care plan that set this country back decades and a vote for the Iraq war that will affect the lives of our veterans for decades to come. We do not need that kind of experience. The only change I see is her abilty to change herself into whatever she thinks will get her elected. She is not a real leader. I feel sorry for her. This is not her time.

Hillary is a crazed lunatic.

When Hillary talks about her “35 years of experience”, it gives me a rash. 8 of those years were in the capacity of a first lady, an extraneous,ancillary role at best. I loved watching her sense of entitlement manifest itself tonight. She and Romney are cut from the same cloth.

She looked awful tonight and is really being exposed by one of the most pathetic Democrat fields in recent history. The woman isn’t brilliant, she isn’t composed and she just isn’t likable.

This woman needs to be stopped. She will destroy this country. If you think the country is divided now, she will destroy it.

She is out of control. Can not handle stress. Frabricates facts when there is not time to challenge her in a TV format, she actually has no record on anything except give health care to ALL at ALL cost and if you don’t like it screw you. She is frankly a loose canyon.

hilary, the smartest woman in the world?
ask her how many times she failed the bar in massachusettes and washington, dc.

When I saw it, this did strike me as a moment when Senator Clinton lost her composure and it was not a good moment for her.
The irony in this is that she was more or less ridiculing Obama’s talk of “change” and “hope” and arguing that her experience trumps that as far as being qualified to be President.
Her husband made the same argument against George H.W. Bush back in 1991.
I think Hillary Clinton is a smart, accomplished woman, but it seems that having the Clitons back in the White House would create more division and animosity with the Congress than there is now. What has yet to be mentioned in these debates is that Bill Clinton lost the Congress for the Democrats and at one point there was that wonderful government shutdown.

I once had a mother-in-law like Hillary.
ONCE.
That was enough.

Fellas, can anyone name even a SINGLE achievement of Hillary’s in the last 35 years? Her only noted success was a bill that the entire Senate voted on, helping a few thousand kids, supposedly.

Once again, Clinton showed that she is entirely too self-obsessed and petty to lead our country. It’s time for new leadership in both the Democratic party and our nation as a whole.
Go Obama!!!

Angela,
America the laughing stock of the world? Have you ever lived in a foreign country? I’m not talking about visiting there and tasting wine for a few days, I’m talking about living there with the real people. I have. All I’ll say is this: I was much like you before living in France, Italy, and Malta and travelling everywhere in between. After hearing numbers of people say to me, “Take me to the America,” and working with many people today who have moved here to find work and live in a freedom that you seem to take for granted by making that statement, I must say that you are…simply…wrong.

I think that Clinton made a cogent and effective argument for her candidacy: change is impossible without experience.
Sure, she was feisty, but nowhere near as angry as the Edwards’ have been for their entire campaign.
Then again, I’ve never been intimidated by strong women, anymore than I’ve been intimidated by strong men.

Bottomline, politics is a nasty game of folks who are about self promotion, arrogance and using other peoples money (lobbyist’s) to pormote their own and special interest groups “interest”. It is the politicans job to get/manipulate the little guy into letting them keep this game alive. Government is an industry built on greed.
Government is an industry that has a lot of hanger oners-newspapers, networks, lobbyist, corporations, unions, and other governments. All use threats and corruption to keep their gig going. And, Clinton Inc. is part of it for now.

LMAO @ JBD…kudos.
Someday I hope to see Hillary bagging groceries at my local Albertsons. I will pat her on the head & drop a quarter into her grimy paw.

The sexist nature of some of the earlier remarks on the thread on shameful. Particularly, attached to the blog of mainstream news outlet. Boy the family values are really showing in some of these remarks.

I can only laugh out loud (LOL, you know) at people who think ABC is somehow biased against Hillary. They’re incredibly biased towards the Democratic candidates, as is most of the press.
Geez, isn’t that George Stephanopolis, former Clinton administration press spokesman doing “analysis” of the debate? You think he doesn’t know Bill and Hillary like only someone who worked years for them could?
As for Obama, you have to realize it’s not the man or woman at the top, ultimately, that matters. It’s the Cheneys and Ashcrofts and Karl Roves, no? In other words, the people they surround themselves with and delegate the operation of government to.
Fear not, Obama will surround himself with the best people he can find.
Fear Hillary. She’ll surround herself with more of those horribly corrupt people from Rose Law Firm. The nation doesn’t need to relive all that garbage again.
Fear not, the nation survived Nixon, Bush, Clinton, and Bush. It’ll survive Obama or Edwards or even Hillary. Or even Huckabee (shudder).

By the way, the most interesting part of the debate to me was the discussion of how to deal with nucular (SIC) proliferation.
All four candidates basically made the same case for preemptive war and the Bush doctrine, and were called on it.
When you have candidates talking about how we piss off the PEOPLE of other nations by propping up dictators (Shah and Musharraf), you can’t help but realize that Saddam belongs in that group. We propped him up and his people suffered mass murder, torture, and diversion of oil-for-food money into palaces while the people (especially in the south) didn’t even have running water or electricity.
I say shame on people who would go to war for revenge (to get Bin Laden, one man) instead of to rid a nation of a dictator we propped up.

What’s interesting is that people are finally getting a chance to see her up close for more than a few short video clips. They get a chance to observe the cold eyes, the grim mouth and jaw, the grating voice and the basic belligerence. I think the more people see of her, the less they like her. It doesn’t matter how many image consultants she hires or what new slogan she adopts, people simply do not like HER. I’m guessing that she will fare worse and worse as the primary season rolls on. It’s going to be interesting to watch her sink. What will happen when she can no longer put a positive spin on it? The Clintons do not have a history of bowing out gracefully. I think there’s more tabloid fodder coming up.

I never seen a woman so hated in America. I think people see want they want to see. I watched the debate and she was tough. If she didn’t defend herself, she would be accused of being weak. She has definitely taken more attacks than anyone–and she is still standing. As a woman, I can not align myself with such hatred. I’m proud that a woman is running for president. As a
Black woman, I am elated for both candidates. But I’m leaning towards experience. I think it takes experience to bring about real and significant change. I also believe that it is not merely hope for change, but rather one who can produce change that is the key to true leadership. I like hope. I makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. It is like hot chocolate–cozy, But when I want to be productive, I need espresso–3 shots! Hope for change is a great sermon on Sunday mornings. But for the presidency, we need one who can produce change.

Fear not. She ain’t gonna make the Oval Office. No democrat will.
This is another reason the Republican victory will be massive in ’08: Federal, State, County, City and local.
Vote Rudy and Fred or Fred and Rudy.

She’s not angry. The video is being tagged as “angry” to get more people to view it, so that Mrs. Clinton can get the most mileage out of it, promoting the “changes” she’s made.
It’s probably being done to correct the “mistake” her strategists “claim” they made pertaining to the use of the word “change” v. “experience”…
…or, perhaps it’s not an error at all. Perhaps it’s been their strategy all along, in which case the public really need to stop and wonder.

35 years of change? What change? What has the Hillster accomplished for America? Her failed Health Care plan of the 90′s? Um…no, that wasn’t change. The only change she’s ever affected was to change the status of her enemies from living to dead. We don’t need more of that. Thanks anyway.

An all-consuming lust for power creates a greedy passion that is very hard to conceal. This is why Hillary does not want unscripted questions and rarely evr goes off message. Her handlers know this side of her and they try to hide it. Huckabee and Obama have not been schemeing and plotting and planning to be President for most of their adult lives, and it shows. They have not sold their souls to the devil – at least not yet – the way so most politicians do.

She said the word “Change” 10 times in the clip.

One of her best friends and former law partners went to prison. He was #2 man at the DoJ.
Surprised we didn’t see Sandy Berger on the stage with her on election night in Iowa along with all the other Clinton relics.

Hillary Has Howard Dean Moment and Other Debate Fun

There were two debates tonight the first being the Republicans followed by the Democrats. I will briefly say that the Republicans beat up Mitt Romney fairly well and that Fred Thompson looked like the winner in this one. Ron Paul held his own and Joh…

The really interesting thing about this picture is to see Clinton, Edwards and Obama sitting there and the realization hitting you – these candidates are the best the Democrats have to offer us?
Frankly, I believe all this is leading up to is the inevitability of Al Gore. His strategy is so glaringly evident it verges on the ridiculous in terms of simplicity.
Mr. Gore has opted to stay out of the messy, time consuming and very wearisome primary process. He has chosen to let that process expose, as it currently is doing, the weakness of the Democrat field. Then, at the right moment, come riding forth on a gray steed (gray as opposed to white for what should be obvious reasons) to capitalize on his success of the past year. A level of which, I might add, no one with the political ambition of an Al Gore can or will ignore.
Why there might even be a campaign slogan in there – “The Environment Is Right (or Wrong?), We Can’t Ignore Al Gore!”
Write it down, folks. And remember. Unlike Henry Clay, Gore would rather be President than right.
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The first time I saw this, I thought that she seemed really angry. When I watched it again, she didn’t seem as angry as I remembered, but still–angry. If this is really a ploy to get more airtime for the clip, it’s genius, but I doubt it. She seems genuinely flustered at many points. The most flustered part was when she started flapping her arms and said “I WANT to make CHANGE but I’ve already MADE change!” It’s kind of weirdly contradictory. If she was so successful in making change before, why does she need to do it again?
But the really bad part for me was when she said “we don’t need to be raising the false hopes of our country about what can be delivered.” If Obama’s theme is “hope”, then Clinton seems to have decided on the theme “don’t get your hopes up”. The good part is if this turns voters off and Obama wins. The bad part is if people buy into this and say, yeah, the system is always going to be pretty messed up, let’s just vote for the hardest, dirtiest fighter (Clinton) so that the Republicans don’t nail us too badly.
Another weird turn of phrase was “The best way to know what change I will produce is to look at the changes that I’ve already made”, which again seems to imply that the scope of the changes she intends to make is very limited.
My main objection is that she takes it so heavily for granted that she has already caused more change than anyone else on the stage, and she rarely backs that up. I feel that she’s running more on her husband’s record than her own; for some reason she has been getting away with selectively taking credit for his achievements while not mentioning his failure and his less popular policies. I don’t know if she can really demonstrate how much of this credit she deserves; her formal role in the Clinton administration was, after all, somewhat ambiguous, and the project that she had the clearest authority over (the health care plan) was by all accounts a massive failure. If she is effectively seeking a third term for her husband, then she should just come out and say so, maybe let him do the debates instead of her. But if she isn’t, then she needs to focus on her achievements that are distinctly separate from his, and I’m still not sure that there are enough of those to make fly the argument that she is all that much more experienced than Obama.

I am a Republican and would never vote for Hillary, but I thought it was a good response. Her thoughts were well organized, there was no question about what point she was trying to make, and it seemed sincere.
I have never heard her say anything sincere or clear in my life and I think it’s pretty good contrast compared to Obama who never says anything concrete about anything. Then again, they are going after the votes of Democrats, so maybe Obama has the better strategy of poetic speeches about vague ideas that do not actually mean anything.

No double standard here. People say McCain’s a wacko when he screams, same way they do when Howard Dean goes batty. I haven’t seen Obama get mad, which is part of why he’s liked, same way W was liked. Only time W got “mad” in a debate was when Gore broke the debate rules and took a personal potshot at him, to which W responded with nothing more than a very knowing glare; like it or not, which do you think people prefer in a leader: that glare, or Hillary’s knee-jerk rant?

It was EDWARDS who laid the trap for Hillary Clinton, NOT Obama. And she walked right into the trap.
Note the split screen. Edwards got her goat and she came off poorly.

Wow!
Her circuit breaker got tripped tonight.
Do we really want Hillary as our President?
… it could be a l-i-t-t-l-e s-c-a-r-y.

Two more observations and I’m done.
The candidates ducked the two hardest questions, about Social Security and Medicare. Not one answer about Medicare and to think that imposing the 15% FICA on Bill Gates and his $1M salary will accomplish anything – that’s only $150,000, spit in the ocean, folks.
The candidates’ rhetoric about Iraq is laughable, to say the least. Don’t they look at our own history and realize that reconciliation in Iraq has to come from the bottom up and not the top down? We didn’t get it right the first time and had to have a constitutional convention to get our current form of government. And it was 13 disparate factions (much like Sunnis, and the various Shi’ia in Iraq) that made it work from the bottom up.
As well, the really hard question, which no moderator has the guts to ask, is what are the candidates going to do once they’ve redeployed troops and the violence escalates to heights not reached to date or the situation escalates into a regional war with the Saudis and Syrians and Iranians and Turks fighting against one another in a decimated Iraq?
Iraq is nothing like Vietnam – that’s more hooey rhetoric. It’s like our Civil War.
Yet the candidates talked about 3900 troops killed in Iraq in 5 years of fighting. We lost 500,000 men in the Civil War, over 50,000 in the last Democrats’ war (Vietnam, folks), and 110,000 in the previous Democrats’ war (Korea, folks), and 416,000 in the previous Democrats’ war (World War II).
Of course the deaths of 3900 of our troops is serious, but it’s also our blood and treasure that’s demonstrating to the Iraqi people that we’re not going to leave them high and dry in their time of need. Like GHW Bush did after the Gulf War.

Hillary blew it, I knew it was just a matter of time. Her typical emotional female breakdown was in overdrive tonight. Hillary’s pockets are full of PAC and corporate money, she owes wayyy too many elites to be effective for the American people that she pretends to “fight” for. She tried way to hard tonight to impress the cigar chompers in the closed board meeting rooms and before she even knew it, she was out of control. She should just go back to baking cookies for Bill and running off his mistresses. This is a woman scorned that will take it out on any men she runs across and the American people too. It was good for all of us to see what she is really made of. Edwards in ’08!

I agree; she lost it. And she came across as not being able to handle the situation. It’s only going to get worse as president. Obama was cool and in control.

At least she didn’t say she’d attempt to disarm the soviet union..

I think her answer was totally appropriate. I don’t know her record, but I bet she does feel like she’s really been trying to effect change for some time now, whereas every candidate since Reagan has been trying to sell hope… and getting no credit for the record thus far. It must get a little tiresome for candidates on both sides with real experience (by proxy or directly) to be simply labeled “one of those terrible Washington insiders” whereas every Johnny-come-Lately is somehow about a bright new future.

Do you really want to listen to that for the next 4 years? I have nothing against a woman being president, just not her!

HILLARY ROCKS!! She’s a Bad Mama-Jamma.
All of you complainers are afraid of a smart, strong woman.
If Obama and Edwards need all these folks to protect them from one little ole’ lady then they ain’t presidential material.

I don’t plan on voting for Clinton but it was good to see her actually say exactly what she means for a change, even if she did lose her cool a bit.

Someone should take the clip of Hilary talking about her ability to make change and dub it into a skit about a McDonald’s employee fumbling with a cash register.

hillary rodham in unhip, uncool and a loser as a politician because she is basically an introvert.
she is old and angry but that’s her fault.

KEEP HER AWAY FROM THE NUCLEAR FOOTBALL!!!

I’m no Hillary fan but she didn’t seem angry to me, in fact she made some effective points.

It may be hormones and beyond her control.

this woman is falling apart in front of our very eyes! i knew the moment this happened it would become an issue in the press. You can see the desperation in her voice. I almost feel sorry for her if she didn’t come across like a total ##### in the debates.

I don’t like Hillary one bit, and I think that she was angry in this spot. That being said, I think it was justified, and I think she was effective in making some points on her record.
I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing to come off as insensed, if you feel your positions or record are being distorted.

HILLARY. IS. NOT. ELECTABLE.
the debate clip crystallizes that fact.

@sjbj2232,
i am sorry but it is where she is on the issues and not how she puts on her pants that i disagree with her. the defense of her being a woman is no good when one does not care gender or creed. you might try and say the same, but your “cross between JFK and/or Martin Luther King, Jr.” speaks volumes. i don’t care if you are man, woman or primate. obama has a voice, presence, candor, heart, platform and soul that transcends this B.S. political correctness that you are trying to keep the left side down with. leadership is not about age, but about who can lead. as great as a man as her husband is, hillary should of lead by leaving her man long ago. this was not family values as much as it was politics as normal. a strong woman does not stay with that. a strong woman does not try to “out choice” another dem. a strong woman does not align herself with michael whooley. the beltway has taken it’s toll on hillary, and it has not been forgiving. if she is about to sing the swan song, then it is about time for the opportunist carpet bagger to realize when she is only in it for legacy and not for the fine citizens of this land.

Its heartening to see Hillary leave the smile behind. She was intense, passionate and determined to get her point across. Anger is in the eyes of the beholder.

When hillary went off on Edwards, two thoughts came to mind: “Say it, don’t spray it,” and “Well, at least she didn’t throw an ashtray at him.”

Too bad it was not just Obama, Edwards and Hillary on stage. Richardson did not belong there last night — he is not a viable candidate. But Hillary should be thankful because he on more than 1 occasion calmed down the debate.
I am a moderate Republican and do not want to see Hillary as nominee because I think it will not be good for the country. Same old same old. Let’s have new ideas from Obama. McCain or Huck vs. Obama.
If Hillary did not spend time as First Lady of DC or Arkansas she NEVER would have been elected NY Senator as she has no experience. She rides on Bill’s record, not her own and the people see it and are not fooled. If Dems elect her it is a death wish.

It’s interesting that I sensed Hillary’s anger when she railed about health care, a “change” project that she actually did not accomplish in the ’90′s when she was in control.
I suspect that the voters are beginning to see through the “new” facade (of this minimally accomplished woman now at the precipice of another overwhelming defeat) is really not a “change” at all. Is socialism really the “change” we need?
BTW, S-CHIP was never a Hillary “baby,” as she claims, but a compromise between Ted Kennedy and Orrin Hatch in 1997, when she was no longer involved in health care policy efforts.
The “change” I would like to see is any reporter actually pitching her a question that requires an answer that points to her “35 years of experience.” Does this include her days working for a law firm in Oakland defending the Black Panthers?

I’m not surprised that no one in the media has had the guts to say that normal people have a visceral reaction against Hillary because her voice is abnormally deep. This makes her seem “mannish,” which goes hand in hand wither her radical-feminist, anti-cookie-baking, personality and mentality. Like her pathetic husband, this woman is sick to the core.

I’m for CHAANGE! SHRIEK!
YES, I, not YOU, am for CHANGE! SHRIEK!!!
I’ve been for change for 35 years! (OK, I give up, what does THAT mean?)
Thank God they didn’t have any lamps or ashtrays on the stage.
Go away Hillary! Just go away, and take Bubba with you.

35 years. I’d like to see the resume and the performance reviews to support that.

I don’t think she lost her cool at all. Now I have heard the CLintons are famous for losing their cool and berating people, throwing things, firing people on the spot, but this wasn’t it.
Not a big deal.

I can’t stand Hillary, but I don’t see the big deal in the video clip. If she is honest, which I doubt, her tone is fine by me.

All the comments here supporting Mrs. Bill Clinton are nothing more than a lot of man haters and those who are still in love with ol’ Slick Willie.

“I’ve been for change for the last 35 years.” What in the world does that mean?
Every position that Hillary or Bill ever had, was found by taking a poll and then crafting a position to conform to it. Maybe that’s what she means by change.
Hillary never had a genuine emotion or thought in her life and I am sure she thinks Obama, or anyone else who does, is faking it.
Experience? What experience? She hasn’t even done anything as a Senator other than vote.
Everyone wonders why no decent person wants to run for publice office. Well, Obama seems like a genuinely decent person to me. Hillary has never seemed like anything but a self-serving, self-absorbed, politician. I don;t doubt for a second that she doesn’t get him.
History has proven that when the going gets tough in campaigns, the Clintons start lying. And, they don’t ever stop.

After the Democrat’s debate I switched to NBC to see what Mr. Russert and crew had to say. I pretty much watched the entire program and literally could not believe what I heard and saw. I’m a middle aged guy who follows politics the way most guys follow sports and I cannot recall a time when there was such a gigantic disconnect between the public and the media. Nearly every single comment, observation and thought expressed by the NBC reporters revolved around Ms. Clinton in some way. I honestly don’t think they have a clue that voters, Democratic voters even, are not obsessed with Ms. Clinton the way they are.
I don’t support her primarily because of her willingness to reinvent herself whenever it suits her audience or current polling data; there is something seriously creepy about that.
And when Mr. Obama began chipping away at her large lead in Iowa polls it was utterly vile the way her surrogates began the not-even-slightly-subtle racial bs ala Helmes, Buchanan, et al.
And in a state where 93% of residents are white and are routinely dismissed by eastern elitists like Ms. Clinton as dopey-backward-racist- rednecks …except of course for a few months every 4 years… an African American won handily.
That is historic and I believe a seismic shift in American Politics…too bad news coverage of Mr. Obama’s inauguration will probably revolve around how his election will impact Ms. Clinton’s future.

I guess Hil figured Bill has become baggage, so she conscripted Chelsea to be by her side.
Problem is…Chelsea is mute, anyone ever hear her voice?
Some little girl asked Chelsea a question and she responded..”I don’t give interviews.”
Arrogant, like her mom.

“Don’t get your hopes up”–now there’s a winning strategy. She’s now the “don’t get your hopes up” candidate. That should bring them out in droves.

Hillary shrieked a lot, told a lot of lies about Iraq and the Bush economic record. Tried to talk down the economy and discount the many years of high economic grown and historically low unemployment we have experienced with the Bush tax relief and resulting economic boom. She even tried to trot out the “woman card” by saying it would be a big change to put a woman into the oval office. We as conservatives would love to see a woman in the oval office: Condi Rice. We loved seeing a strong woman on the world stage: Margaret Thatcher.
Hillary doesn’t understand that it’s not about her gender…its about her incompetence. If I am hiring a surgeon, or a pilot, or a financial consultant, or a president, I want the best. If I needed heart surgery, or advice on the best place to invest $100,000, I would not choose a person based on their gender! If a woman was the best surgeon, I would choose her. If a man had the best investment record, I would choose him. Stop the sexism, Hillary.
It’s the same with choosing a president. Hillary would ruin the economy and make us weaker on national defense, just as Obama or Edwards would. It is their IDEAS and LACK OF EXPERIENCE that would make them fail us, not their gender.
Hillary showed her inconsistency and disingenuousness by saying the following: “every state must know that we will retaliate against those states that are safe havens for stateless terrorists” and predicting “heavy retaliation.”
So, she tried to fool the American people into believing that somehow she would be strong against terrorists and not differentiate between stateless terrorists and their state sponsors (this is pillar 2 of 4 in the Bush Doctrine). But, she would be a foreign policy disaster because she did not admit that pillar 3 of 4 in the Bush Doctrine, preemption, is necessary in this new war we are fighting.
Pillar 3 of 4 in the Bush Doctrine states:
“We must move preemptively against gathering threats.
-if we wait until threats full materialize, we will have waited too long
-deterrence means nothing against shadowy groups and cells of terrorists who rely on safe harbor and support from supportive, rouge states.
-the war on terror will not be won on the defensive. The only path to safety is the path of action.”
Hillary missed this point and said she would only “retaliate” against safe haven states. I don’t know about you, but I am glad Bush took out Saddam and his WMD building and sharing capabilities. I much prefer that course to “waiting” until Saddam had secretly shared a nuclear, chemical or biological weapon with some terrorist group who used it on an American city. At that point we would still have had to go in to Iraq to “retaliate” as Hillary says, but we would have already lost 10’s or 100’s of thousands of American lives and billions more in economic loss such an attack would bring (just look what 9-11-01 cost to us in economic loss and rebuilding cost).
In the debate, Hillary also did not correct any of the lies put out there, and she threw a few liberal lies in herself that were not corrected by any of the others. (Except Charlie Gibson, even as a liberal, felt some obligation to try to interject some truth…but they would not let him).

Obama’s basic theme was: I am for change!” We know he is for change, as is Edwards and Hillary. The problem is, we do not need the kind of socialist change they would bring. Obama threw in his share of lies about Iraq and the Bush economic record, and he was not intellectually honest enough to correct even some of the more egregious lies thrown out by others in the forum. Obama even had the audacity to say he wants to bring Americans together, Republicans and Democrats and Independents. But he missed a golden opportunity to stand out from the crowd and possibly bring in some independents, when he let the lies of others slide by without correcting them. That is the trouble with the liberal orthodoxy, no one can step out of line and be honest and real…otherwise they can’t get nominated as a Democrat because the kook left fringe holds so much power over them.
Obama could not even admit that he was wrong on the Bush troop surge, even in the face of the facts and reality that Charlie Gibson tried to confront him with. The left is always harping on their false contention that “Bush can’t admit to any mistakes!”. Now here they have four liberals on stage, and not one of them could admit their abject failure and mistake on the Bush surge, and on the Iraq war in general.

DID SHE REALLY SAY SHE CREATED SCHIP???
OBG, this is another “Gore created the Internet!” goof. SCHIP was the brainchild of Ted Kennedy and Orin Hatch back in 1997, when she was still sulking over her failed KlintonKare bill.

In the Republican debate, they all did well for themselves, except of course for the kook Ron Paul. They all got the point out strongly that we face an existential threat from the radical Islamic extremist terrorists, and only a Republican understands that threat and will protect America and the world.

You are missing the most important part: It’s not her unstable tone of voice so much as what she said. She called our optimism for the future of America “false hope.” She is confusing pragmatism with pessimism and will lose horribly. She should have called in sick and let Bill sit in for her. In fact, send only Bill out from now thru Tues, he might still beat Barack. She never will.

Trying to be objective, I found nothing “angry” about her response, although I think she and the rest are dithering idiots. “Change” for what? If You want the federal government to take over the nation’s health care system you haven’t been to the post office lately.

All of the anti-Hillary comments are part of a vast right/left conspiracy .
Anyone that that disagrees with her claim as qualified is part of a vast right/left conspiracy .
Anyone that believes she was/is incapable of improving Arkansas education while First Lady of that state , the Nations health care while First Lady of the country , is part of a vast right/left conspiracy .
Anyone that recalls her 60 minute interview standing by her man ( liar ) , her firing of career employees of the WH travel office in favor of her Hollywood pals , her inability to find or remember records , her astonishing stock market futures score , her ( and Bills ) meteoric rise financially post presidential office , her carpetbagging mentality demonstrated by Bills selection of NYC as his home base and her coincidental run at political office rather than Arkansas or Illinois , is a member of a vast right/left conspiracy .
Her nomination speaks loudly for the state of our political system . It’s broken and must be fixed .

Took on big companies?
Yeah, maybe like those 18 US vaccine companies she took out of business back in ’97. Every wonder why each time there’s a ‘flu vaccine’ shortage reported on TV, the US is always waiting for some company in England to make more?
Ask Hillary. She’s got the answers.

China’s economic and military power is increasing by the minute, radical thugs are blowing up people all over the world, oil is at $100 a barrel, rougue states have nuclear weapons and these people are arguing about SCHIP and change (whatever that means)? Give me a freakin’ break!

If Hillary Clinton offers to make change for you, be sure to count those coins closely. Based on her previous “experience” in Washington, you’ll be lucky to get 45 cents back for every dollar you give her.

This is simple. The MORE Hillary has to answer questions and be in public, the WORSE she will do.
She isn’t Bill. Her soul is that of a power-hungry, ruthless person who will do anything to win an election.
And if you support her, shame on you. She’s as corporate-owned as Bush.

Yeah! Stop it you guys! Leave Hillary ALONE! I MEAN it!!!
sobbity sobbity bobbity

Hillary, wouldn’t have this problem if she was more accessable to the media and voter questions (like edwards and obama are). Everyone knows she doesn’t like to answer hard question unless its from her own camp. She seems like she get mad everytime she can’t control the situation. There is another person who loves to control the media and people as well….Bush

Hillary didn’t have a good night last night. Edwards did a magnificent job of bringing out her worst side. He the matador and she was the bull. When I was watching her, I kept thinking, any minute now, a milky substance is going to start coming out of her mouth and her head is going to pop off (like in the movie Alien), but fortunately, that didn’t happen last night.
You go girl!

Thirty-five years of experience? Are you kidding me? She’s only held public office for less than six years. Oh, of course, Hillary gained all of her experience by soaking it up as First Lady in the Whitehouse. That must be it. The co-presidency thing. So she’s responsible for Bill Clinton’s Bosnian War fiasco where Clinton accidentally bombed the Chinese consulate? How about the Somalia fiasco where Clinton changed the mission in Somalia from a peaceful food handout to a military incursion against the Somali warlord Adid? (And as a result of this mission expansion we had over twenty US Army Rangers sacrificed to Clinton’s ego.) She’s responsible for the Lewinsky fiasco where Bill “consulted” with Monica in the Oval Office? She’s responsible for firing the Travel Office staff so they could be replaced by her friends? Hey, if she’s claiming all this “experience”, she’s going to have to take the good with the bad,right?

There is no way on earth the American people are going to vote to listen to four years of that woman’s voice. None.
As a Republican, I pray she gets the nomination.

This video reveals an important aspect of Sen. Clinton’s personality and how she handles relationships with those who oppose her. Chilling. No wonder her classmates pinned an icey nickname to her – “Sister Frigidaire.”
So important is the candidate who can take a disagreeable moment, reorient the dialog and direct a positive, united result. It is what Sen. Clinton claims she can do, but her response suggests otherwise. The three other Democrats sharing the stage give me more confidence. America needs this kind of vision – not hers.

Please. John Edwards has been shouting at voters all year, and it’s called passion.
But the moment a woman raises her voice one notch, even after being repeatedly attacked, she is a scary angry woman.
Sexist much? You people disgust me.

What I want to know is what John Edwards gets out of the deal, Obama owes him so much for helping to bring Hillary down, he’s actually playing a much better VP candidate here than he did with Kerry.
Obama is a breath of fresh air, and I am now realizing that Hillary should definitely NOT become President of this country, it’s not a woman thing, we are ready for a woman, but just because she is a woman, that doesn’t mean we have to like her.

She makes me recoil EVERY time she opens her mouth! I wish she and her husband would just go away. Enough already with the Clintons!!!

I would never vote for Hillary.
BUT
I thought she actually looked strong and confident in her response – professional and competent. Sure she’s mad – Obama is selling pipe dreams and she wants to talk issues. I was impressed by her ability to call that the Emperor has no clothes.
Again – why ids tough and angry ok for a male but laughed at for a woman?

PLEASE….
No more Bush…
No more Clinton…
Let’s just move on!

JUST SAY NOT TO HILARY!!! Look at where the Clinton’s had all of their money invested before they put their massive corporate fortune to cash; Big Oil, Big Pharma and the Military Industrial Complex and yet Hilary has the audacity to say she fights these three evil cultures. She like her lying criminal hypocrite of a husband Bill need to be put out to pasture once and for all! We will all serve this country well by putting all of the Boomers (the worst generation in American history) out to pasture. From hippies to yuppies to the worst corporate raiders since the robber barons! Go Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mrs. Clinton acted like a spoiled child. I was shocked by her temper tantrum. Mrs. Clinton feels so entitled to the presidency that she is beside herself because she’s losing. Her performance is proof that she does not have the temperament to be president. Mrs. Clinton thought she would nab the nomination in a cakewalk. She never expected to have to earn it, fight for it, so she’s ill prepared for the competition. The pressure of the reality of the fight caused her to have a meltdown at the debate. She started her campaign with the wrong attitude and it’s showing more and more everyday. Last night we got to see the side of Mrs. Clinton that she has been hiding, but that we all knew was there.

If Rob W is a conservative, then I am Joan of Arc. There is no way you can call yourself a conservative and then say that you expect big things from a manufactured candidate and closet socialist like Barack Obama. Just like Hillary, Obama is a victim candidate. You are supposed to vote for Obama in order to repair race relations in America. You are supposed to vote for Hillary because she has a vagina and we need to show the world that we are not a sexist nation. Let’s face it, if Mike Ditka hadn’t dropped out of that US Senate race in 2002, Barry Obama would be taking tickets at the next Jesse Jackson race baiter rally. Also, if Hillary Rodham Rodham had not married Bill Clinton, she would be taking tickets at the next abortion mafia convention. I hate to say it, but the slip-and-fall lawyer is the only legitimate candidate in the race, and that isn’t saying much.

It’s not about Anger, Change or Gender… it’s about Credibility.
Hillary is all over the boards in her “definition” of herself, her explanation of her actions, her intentions, her motivations, her ANSWERS from debate to debate.
Her LACK of credibility is exactly related to the CHANGE that the public would like to see in a Politician.
How many times have any of you had a new Manager come into your workplace and made CHANGE for the sake of Change?
“Change” in Hillary’s mind is about making HER MARK on history… not about finding flaws in the system and correcting them for the sake of those that need it most.
Her anger is offensive only because it was selfish in motive… as it would be for ANY candidate.
The only “Double Standards” here is that a great number of people want us to treat Hillary with a little MORE tolerance because she is a Woman… How about we treat her with the same scrutiny, arm-chair criticisms, moral judgments and viscous personal attacks as we do the current leading MALE.
Wouldn’t that be fair?
Or is the CHANGE Hillary wants simply that she be judged by a different standard… by only what she SAYS, not what she does?
SK

This woman says her 8 years in the white house is enough experience to protect the nation, lead the troops, develop foreign policy, and create a booming economy.
The white house pastry chef should be able to say that also.

First, I can not stand Hillary. I would not vote for her with a gun to my head!. Good for her! The frozen face was off in a very rare moment and she spoke her mind. She should do it more offen. I think it would help her…Her laugh about terrible men a few months ago was also a rare moment when her frozen face was off and that was a positive for her, even from me.

Given the reports of her infamous tantrums while operating as First Lady (throwing lamps and other objects at people and hurling racial epithets), Obama and Edwards should don hardhats and kevlar vests. Can you imagine Hillary in a cabinet meeting when someone vehemently disagrees with her? I understand the she does not like or respond well to being critized. When male candidates are angered by examinations of their policies, records, and positions it makes them look like petulant children…this applies to female candidates as well. Anger does not equal strength. Furthermore, Hillary does not have thirty-five total years of experience serving the people in an elected office. What she is saying while constantly braying that phrase is, “Look! I’ve operated for decades behind the scenes interfering in and manipulating the system!” That does not bode well for her campaign either. She is doing no fair service to women by behaving like an irrational feminist in manly pantsuits and fugly comfortable shoes. Her campaign’s attempts at softening her image are failing. A majority of women across this nation do not like her personality. Argue about her policies and “strength” as a woman fighting a good ole boys club, if you will, but it comes down to personality and photogenics. If the candidate is attractive (looks presidential) and has a magnetic personality (appeals to felt needs in a warm, sympathetic manner), that will go much farther than anger. Unfortunately, that is the Hollywood appeal that voters do take into account at a subconscious level. Additionally, Hillary has got to do something about her voice. It is metallic. I know people from the midwest. Great people…but Hillary’s tone along with that accent goes to my spine and makes me shudder. Her image consultant, if she has one, must be throwing his/her hands up in the air by now. Obama is going to get the majority of the youth vote (18-25) and the mid-young vote (25-35). The gen-x and gen-y generations are saying, “Move your a** over! We’re hitting it now.” Remember the mantra “Don’t trust anyone over thirty”? The gen-x and gen-y generations don’t trust the ingrained, power-sucking, older politicians who cannot relate to or connect with them. A lot of them don’t want “grandpa” or “grandma” in office. To them, Hillary is the mean old lady that chases you down the street for who the h*ll knows what. The older male candidates are creepy old guys. Playing base on Leno isn’t going to cut it either. All of those years of free love, self-empowerment, wonder woman, and me first have filtered down. The “youth” voters have different values and are not as inclined to listen to the wholesome, straight laced values crowd. This outlook is beginning to enter into the voter landscape and is, like it or not, part of the future political landscape.

Tempest in a teapot…A contrived storm, not tjhe perfect one…She didn’t raise her voice, didn’t go shrill, didn’t lose it…I’ve heard my wife admonish the kids in tones rougher than that….Better fibnd a new ‘Hillary revelation….To use this as a ‘Mad Moment’ will be embarrassing…And, I’m a Conservative, too….

Hillary cannot hide her pugnacious persona anymore. She has worn a mask for so long and fooled so many – but in the light of day when she loses her famous temper, it is finally revealing to all what an offensive human she truly is.

What did I see? A woman in the attack mode. Note the eyes…hatred. Note the hand…raised as if in control. No one has the right to put their hand in front of someone else like that. It shows that she wants P-O-W-E-R! As to the “35 years of experience” what does she mean. Is this the 35 years that she’s been on the public dole? Has she had a job in the private sector during these 35 years? I think not. Be careful folks, she’s a time bomb.

It is clear this a pro-Obama blog. All he and Edwards did was say “change” about a million times without substance. I hate Hillary but vote actually have to vote for her over those two.

Disagree – What substance does Mrs Bill Clinton offer?

The only thing Hillary is going to ‘deliver’ to America is socialism.

Actually, for once, Hillary seemed real. I enjoyed it, didn’t think it was out of line or mean or anything else. Made her more likeable in my opinion.

I’m conservative and will vote that way. I never liked Hillary and would never vote for her. But I don’t get this anamosity against her from the left.
She gave a great response (whether true or not). These are the kind of responses that equip voters to make their decisions. 1.Check the veracity of what was said 2.If true, do you agree that what the candidate worked for was a good thing? 3. If not true, don’t vote for her, no matter what!
This change, change, change talk without substance sure wouldn’t give me what I need to cast my vote for Obama, if I were a liberal, independent or conservative. It would be like stepping off a cliff.

I will never vote for her, but I thought that was one of her BEST moments of the campaign. She made her point and she made it well. I didn’t see any kind of a metldown or temper tantrum in it.

If Mrs. Clinton has been making so many changes for the past 35 years, why aren’t things better?

Does anyone remember that “Terminator” movie where the Robot just kept coming and coming and nothing could stop it until it was finally thrown into a vat of molten metal?
Realizing it was toast — It instinctively started screeching and morphing into anyone and anything it could until it just finally melted away.
Is this an “Art Imitates Life Moment” or what?

hillary is sooooo finished.

LOL…For someone who has been “fighting for 35 years” for something and has so very few if any accomplishments to list, I would expect continued failure in helping those that she pretends to be fighting for. Hilary is clearly interested in one thing; power for Hilary. Power over our lives because she doesn’t believe the little people can get along without her dictating to their daily lives; afterall she is so much smarter than we are. What a joke; if the american people vote her in office then she was right in her belief that they are a group of stupid sheep!

I was watching the debate last night and cringed when I saw Hillary having a “hissy fit” or something right on camera. The look in her eyes, the expression on her face was enough to end any thoughts I had of maybe considering voting for her.
Look at the expression on Edwards and Obama’s faces as they listen to this tirade from Hillary. I don’t think they believed what they were seeing/hearing.
I think Hillary did herself alot of damage with this. It’s too late for her team to put a positive spin on it.
Everyone knows better than that!

Hillary says “Let me respond”. The clip doesn’t show what she was repsonding to.
So what was Hillary responding to?

Senator Clinton denigrated the importance of speech in a democracy in last night’s debate in New Hampshire. But she should remember this …
When Cicero finished speaking, the people said, “My, how well he spoke.” When Demosthenes finished speaking the people said, “Let us march!”
Candidates should strive to emulate Demosthenes.

The “Change” all these libs are pimping is… socialism. A class war has been started by Democrat politicians seeking power. There are many more people in this country who earn less than $100K/year than those who earn over $100K/year. The Democrats (Robin Hood) appeal to the bitter, lazy, “poor” masses who want to take money from the rich and give it to the “poor”. The top 25% wage earners in this country pay 84% of the tax revenues but it’s still not enough for libs. Quit whining about rich people and get to work so you can become one .

That was it? That was “angry”? I’ve been reading about this supposed angry Hilary all day. I finally clicked on the link.
That was it? Sure it wasn’t a wrong link?

Wow, the MSM has decided they want Obama. I don’t know who is less loyal and and does more backstabbing, the MSM or the Clinton’s.
A President Obama will make so many rookie mistakes…we’re in for a bumpy ride!

As a conservative Republican, if Romney is not the nominee of the party I will vote for Barack Obama in November if he is the nominee for the Democrats. I’m sick and tired of antipathy toward anyone’s religious beliefs when first of all they are loyal Americans.

..Let me first say that I am not a Bush supporter; he has not been the fiscal conservative that this country needs. Hillary to me is a burlap shirt worn over a really bad sunburn. I can’t help it, but when I listen to Hillary I allways feel like I’m being nagged.

Hilary:
1/2 of Bill Clinton’s campaign money was from Jewish support
Obama:
“Some of my earliest and most ardent supporters came from the Jewish community in Chicago,” Obama told JTA in 2004.
?What’s new

With Hillary having the highest “negatives” (about 50% will not vote for her), the best way she could unite this country would be to drop out of the race.

Far be it from ME to blindly defend either Clinton OR Obama, but frankly, I can take NO issue with Clinton’s very impassioned retort. She showed a rare display of what appears to be genuine emotion and rhetorical passion; such candor from Senator Clinton is rare, to say the least. Not NEARLY enough for me to change my opinion of her, but I must disagree with your assessment of her reply as “aggressive”. She merely appeared to speak her mind, regardless of her comments’ factual basis or not.

Her high-ranking campaign bundler Norman Hsu was just sentenced to 3 years in Prison. Do we really want this old-hat corrupt indiviual to be our President? Time for someone NEW!

This is all too delicious and ironic. In 2000 her New York State US Senate opponent Rick Lazio was ripped for being so mean to this women because he invaded her space on the debate stage.
We now have some people defending her as a strong and powerful women just standing up for her 35 year record of change. (yet to be defined)
Plus she lies re the schips program, She leads us to believe she was responsible for it, yet
“SCHIP, which is funded jointly by the federal government and the states, was created in 1997 as a sort of consolation prize after Congress defeated the Clinton administration’s proposed restructuring of the health-care industry”
the Schips program was created in 1997, well before she became a US Senator.

Jake: That’s right — this is the angry, scolding Hillary; it’s the “I did this” Hillary, the “I did that” Hillary. All it does is this: it reminds people of Ronald Reagan’s soft touch in debate, that when he felt cornered he so often would answer a charge in a self-deprecating way, with a touch of humor, a shrug of his shoulders, a friendly look. Instead, with Hillary, one gets a glimpse of the sheer stridency, self-righteousness and anger that underlies her entire persona. And I don’t think government works well at all when the President is not personally well-liked by those in Congress on whom he greatly depends in order to get things done. Thank you, Barack Obama, for helping to put Hillary Clinton as a public figure in the past tense.

Hilary leaked in public last night –her body language of leaning forward was most telling (aggressive and violent). She comes off as being enraged at the prspect of losing her spot as a candidate for prez.She gives an air of eing entitled to this job because she earned it with a lifetime of compromising, losing her real identity decades ago and putting up with Bill’s crap and all the national, public humiliation. It’s mostly a sad sight, pathetic at moments. She seems to lack dignity. I am curious to see what she will do with herself when she loses the race even within her own party. She must be enraged that Obama even exists.

She was being emphatic, however, unfortunately given her usual manner she was conspicuously impatient and faintly shrill.
She was directing her response to the other candidates, as though frustrated they didn’t recognize her ’35 years’ of ‘commitment’.
Completely uncritical in attitude, it should be noted that her political record is small and quite appropriate for a junior senator.
Watching the video, I was disappointed in her and for her. There have been excellent political models for her she or her coaches seem to have ignored: Ella Grasso, Golda Meyer, and Margaret Thatcher, to name a few. In each case, these woman were reserved, often times understated, confident, even dismissive when stratgically necessary, to convey an ‘internal sense of power’ that drew peoples of different backgrounds and opinions together.
She did not show this characteristic, and, in the final analysis, portrayed herself weak and, uncomfortable for this viewer, demanding of recognition.

Ok, I can’t stand Hillary Clinton; however, I saw a strong response from her in this video clip. I didn’t see uncontrolled anger, rather, righteous indignation. I hate to admit that but I also have to be fair.

Where does her 35 years experience come from? Being married to Bill? The White House Chef has 35 years experience also!!!!!!

OK, I really hate her and Bill, and everything that they stand/don’t stand for. I am not against a woman pres, but the timing is all wrong.
How seriously would these Muslem countries take us if we have a WOMAN running the show?
Why isn’t anyone addressing this???

Martha,
It is not double standards at all. Clinton’s behaviors, if carried out by any man, would have been attacked even harder. I am a woman too and do not need her to take us back 200 years by proving exactly what a sexist would accuse women of, such as “temperamental” and “can’t handle pressure”. This is the most scripted campaign figure you will ever seen. Like someone said, if her name is Hillary Smith, would she have made this far? 12 years of White House expereince? What experience? Was she going through Bill’s files? It’s illegal, let me remind you. Was she not? Then what experience. Like Dick Morris said (of her 12 years white house experience), “So does a pastry chef.”

The latest socialist pot to crack.

I think that any woman in any position of power is a bad idea and I can say this because i am a woman. After Hillary and Nancy Pelosi any doubt that I had was confirmed with their hormonal meltdowns in the public arena.

After thirty five years of service,I’ts time to retire.. staying home and baking cookies is a great idea.

My, my, my. What an angry bunch you are. This religious, public-service-oriented woman has spent her life trying to make things better in this country. She fought for children’s rights well before such rights were recognized. She fought to overcome the shameful healthcare system in this country, and was defeated by million-dollar ad campaigns put on by the very people Obama thinks he can “reason together” with. She has endured attacks like these throughout her career, attacks that Obama has not yet seen. Hillary will prevail, and we will be a better country because of her.

Hillary will not win. I hope. It will be bad for the country if she wins. We need fresh people and its not Hillary, plus its not possible for her to be elected. she will have an all out Howard Dean moment soon.

Interesting that the males perceived her as “angry” but females perceived her as merely forcefully expressing herself, as the male candidates did.

I have watched this video a few times and I just don’t see what you are talking about. I am 100% sure that I don’t aggree with her comments but I don’t see any anger.
The fact that she has been around for 35 years(?) is what we really need to change. She and many other just don’t get it. Change is not only about ideas it is about people. We need to move on without her. That is real change.

How can she claim that being the president’s wife for 8 years counts as executive experience? Hillarycare was a huge flop. I’m really sick of this lady.

I would have loved to be a fly on the wall of the room Hillary was in when the results came in. You think this clip was bad, huh! Every other word would have been #### this and you and you and you.

We Republicans have been saying it for years – the Clintons can not be trusted and will tell you anything to win your vote – power hungry with no core values. Obama is the only candidate on the democrat side I could ever possibly support. I disagree with just about everything he says, but at least he is the one democrat who has not completely alienated me.

Honestly (which is more than the network news is capbable of for the last 40 years) I dont like the woman. I think she is a pathological liar seeking power. I am a CONSERVATIVE.
But I didnt see anything wrong with her statements of this moment of the debate, other than the possibility that this too, was all lies. At least when she is angry, its an honest emotion. Probably the only honest thing about her.

Republican politicians will say and do anything to gain power just as well and often as Democratic politicians. Mitt floppeRomney is a prime example. I was against abortion before I was for it before I was against it… even though a woman can, according to the latest report, still get an abortion for $50 thanks to Mitt. He has never recanted his actions regarding gay marriage. I laugh when I think about all the years evanjellyfish extolled the virtues of a true Christian president. When a Republican carries a Bible he’s a genuine Christian. When a Democrat carries a Bible he’s the anti-Christ mocking God. All of this blather on both sides about God preferring to vote for Democrats over Republicans or vice versa is ridiculous. Yet, isn’t it odd how the evanjellyfish shuck their fundamental beliefs when it comes to betting on a winning racehorse? Some of them trip over themselves to support a man whose faith they classify as a cult… a false religion/gospel. When the thought of losing registers, suddenly the candidate’s faith doesn’t matter anymore. Just because a politician carries a large Bible and makes an appearance at church doesn’t mean he’s a Christian. Isn’t there something in the Bible about “itching ears”, meaning preferring a smooth talker who tells you what you want to hear instead of what you need to hear? Maybe I’m wrong. I think the “Moral Majority” is a littly fuzzy in the head. Conversely, listening to Democrats claiming God is equally entertaining.
Beforehand, we didn’t hear much about Hillary’s deep religious convictions. She was more inclined to poke fun at fundamental Christians. Now that she’s running for the oval office she’s a woman of God. I hope her image consultant has ordered a habit for the next debate (no slight to Catholics).

I actually enjoyed watching Hillary stand her ground against their team attack.
Frankly, since I’m also a conservative Republican who doesn’t like Hillary, I’m surprised that I liked her response. At least she spoke directly, stating what she really believes. She doesn’t do that alot. I don’t agree with what she said, but her tone did not bother me.
Plus, I’ll admit that being from NC means I always enjoy watching someone put the the Beck Girl in his place. John is not very well liked here. He’s viewed as a phony and wouldn’t have been elected to a second Senate term. Only his money has allowed him to run again for president, not his popularity.

It’s really sad how the media determines who the frontrunners are by deciding who gets press coverage and who doesn’t. Bill Richardson is the most qualified Dem, but he doesn’t get any press. Obama is by far the least qualified, yet he gets ALL the press.

The biggest lie in these postings is: I’m a Republican and I like Hillary. Get a life and get real, you are fooling no-one sister.

Reading both this article and the comments made by readers in regards to Clinton’s video, its pretty clear that maybe the US is still not ready to accept a woman as president. This article and these posts reveal how sexist the US still is. Her vagina has sharp, pointy teeth. Its not that people have to like her, but when you read at WHY people are against her, many of the reasons are pretty lame and related to her being a woman.

This moment did make me uncomfortable because it felt like she was venting her frustration that people aren’t voting for her and in her mind, she has done so much for us. And it played into the perception that she is not very likable.
There were similar moments in the Republican debate.
All of them left me uuncomfortable.
Barack Obama came across to me as the most presidential.

Being a lying idiot helps. Yeah boy, she has done everything except walk on water; I expect her to claim that next.

You call this angry????

I’m a conservative Republican who doesn’t like Clinton one bit – I think I’m leaning towards Romney, although he’s highly imperfect and I’m not set on that choice.
But I very much hope that Obama will be the Democratic nominee. It’s not that I think he is more beatable in the general election than Clinton (although I do think he is probably more beatable). And I’m not joining Bama-mania for the “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” factor.
Rather, I think Obama is a good, well-intentioned man of high character who is also a hopelessly misguided and wrongheaded person on most policy – points. He would make a terrible and feckless president. He might end up as bad as Carter – although I don’t think Obama is a as mean and as personally small-minded as Carter.
Obama would have a chance to be elected, although a remote chance. But if he were elected, Obama would be a much better president than Hillary. Hillary is – and Obama is not – cynical, corrupt (Marc Rich? cattle futures?), vicious (bimbos beware!), unbelieveably divisive, paranoid (warm up those vast right wing conspiracies?), feckless (she can’t even keep track of her husband’s penis), economically crazy (is the medical system ready to wreck?), with a political tin-ear. And, frankly, she’s more than a little stupid in places where it counts most a lot (winning on Clinton-era nostalgia? Please. Or running for president as a Senator from New York. Who thought that up?). And, of course, she’s married to HIM and she’s running on a halucinatory version of HIS record.
Hillary wants to present herself as an agent of “change” – but the “changes” actually worked or attempted in HIS adminstrations or her Senate “career” were very bad (especially Hillarycare) or very small (remember Bill running in 1996 on a promise of a “national 911″ service and a “bridge to tomorrow”?)… or very strongly resisted by Hillary. She especially resisted the “Clinton” welfare reforms – which were important positive “changes” pushed down the Clintons’ throat by the Republicans in Congress and Dick Morris acting as Bill Clinton’s campaign adviser. She got mad in this debate because she has accomplished no meaningful, positive “change” in those 35 years and Obama is calling her bluff on it after her toadies in the media gave her the free ride to which she thinks she is entitled. I’m glad she got mad. It helped show her for the fake she is and has always been.
Happy New Year!

the common denominator between the Clintons is I, I and more I’s
they simply cannot stop talking about themselves
yes woman leaders have been great
Golda, Margaret etc..the one thing Hillary does not have in common with these two women..they thought of others FIRST!!! Not their own agendas and grabbing on to power
those women were chosen by what they could bring to the table, not what they could take from it.

You guys hate her only because she is a smart woman .Man cannot accept that even though we are american . Right ?

I can’t stand Hillary, but I wouldn’t say that was an angry response. I think maybe your’re not comfortable with assertiveness. None of her answer precluded a legitimate response. The rest of that group are all big boys, she’s a big girl.

Say what they may about Obama, but he still has the decency not to get to the dirty gutter tactics that Hilliary is consistently trying to pull. How can anyone want Hillary to be President if she already acts like something with a gutter mouth full of spiteful garbage! Disgusting – I wouldn’t want that coming from any possible future president that is going to supposedly represent me

You can tell Hillary is lying if her lips are moving.

“You guys hate her only because she is a smart woman. Man cannot accept that even though we are american. Right ?”
Well, actually, not right at all.
Hillary’s attempt to use this argument after her disastrous performance in the the Russert-moderated debate is one of the things that has brought her into the low and precarious positions she now occupies. The argument is right out of the 1970′s. Use of such arguments just marks Clinton and anyone advancing the arguments as stuck in the past. In fact, Clinton has one foot stuck in the phony nostalgia for her husband’s 1990′s term and the other foot stuck in the benighted politics of the 1970′s, when she learned all too much from Richard Nixon. Let’s just all MOVE ON from all that, and from BOTH Clintons.

A women has no business in the white house, .period. Someone who has never even been in the army has no business being the Commander in Chief of the US military. A woman, has no business being commander and Chief of the military, this is not a game, and it’s not for women and children to get their hands on, this is the future of the United States of America, Americans are stupid to even think about laying it in the hands of a woman. This country is at it’s most critical moment, even Hillary makes a statement that there could be a resection. We need a strong president more then ever, the world looks at us, and a women is not a symbol of strength, no can she lead this country, I am surprised that she made it this far, and I think that women should not have even been allowed to run in the first place, and I’m not the only one, the rest of the world will laugh and the US will become a joke.

Man, I can’t believe the audacity of Hillary to claim more experience based on her “35 years of getting things done for the American people. The only thing she managed in 35 years it to be First Lady or Arkansas and the U.S. Otherwise, she is a one-term Senator just like Obama and Edwards. Give me a break!

Utter sexist garbage. Ever heard of the word emphatic? She wasn’t angry, she wasn’t heated; she was emphasizing her point. And if a man adopted the same tone, you would not have noticed a thing. She won’t wear gingham and an apron and fetch you your slippers, but that doesn’t mean she’s not the best candidate for president.

Hillary expressed frustration because people are choosing inspiration and a handsome male face over perspiration and intelligence. I am thoroughly sick of the word “change”. It is meaningless without the competence to make it happen in a way that benefits Americans. Hillary is the one who can do it. The fact is, she is damned if she is strong and damned if she isn’t. I haven’t heard nearly the out cry against Romney’s school yard bully, smirking, greasy performance that I’ve heard against Hillary’s legitimate expression of anger. There is a clear undercurrent of sexism at work here. Too bad, because other than perhaps John McCain, she was the smartest, best qualified candidate debating last night.

35 years of experience bring change… I am not sure what Hillary is smoking… I guess we are back to what “is”… is…

Interesting…HRC supporters who are playing the reverse psychology sexist card lol
To play it straight, of course a woman can lead as president just like a man can. And she can be an excellent commander-in-chief, just like a man. No question about it.
The question here is only about the PARTICULAR woman, or man for that matter. What PERSON is best qualified, who possesses the best character traits AND experience AND vision, period. On that note, I cannot see myself voting for Hill, the person.

While I support Obama’s race to the White House I’m afraid for him because I believe he’s placing himself and his family in danger of getting a “white bullet” if his candidacy grows too strong particularly if prejudice “White America” sees him as a real election threat – a BLACK man leading the WHITE House.
I don’t think Obama will be successful in the New Hampshire primaries but his win in Iowa was good. Clinton needed a wake up call to remind her that she is not as unstoppable as she thinks and this election whipping from Obama did the trick.
It was good to see new options in a presidential race, i.e. an African-American (Obama) and a woman (Clinton), instead of the normal lineup of old white men that had become so traditional.
White America, however, will not allow a black man to win over a white man and a white woman to lead in the WHITE House. Obama and Hillary will be defeated and John Edwards will most likely (considering Richardson here) be the candidate to represent the Democratic Presidential hope in November 2008.
It will be interesting to see who Edwards selects as his Vice. If Clinton does, by chance, fall into victory, it would be interesting to see who she selects as her running mate; I don’t think Obama will even be considered.

I know why Hillarys pissed. Its because she knows that all the b.s. about “change” is a bunch of meaningless crap, when you look at it.
She is pissed because she realizes that voters are buying into the “change” rhetoric that the other canditates keep spouting off.
i think that peeps that are swayed one way or another based on a great speech about change, are basically a bunch of mindless sheep. i mean cmon, politiicans say this crap EVERY SINGLE ELECTION.
Hillary DOES have an 8 year senate record to look at, and was intrinsically involved at many levels in Clinton admin.
Hillary got pissed because she knows that Edwards and Obama FULLY know that the change thing is just a quaint bit of hot air.
Unfortunately, peeps seem to buy into this.
I hope Hillary can pop that balloon sooner than later.

America is so corrupt it’s own people don’t know who to vote for, voting for those clowns in the democrat party, I am a democrat but I can’t vote for any of those clowns so I will vote for one of the very qualified honorable men who can lead and guide our country and be a real Commander in chief to our military force, I served in Iraq and I know this country needs a strong leader, none of the democrats fit that category even remotely, people please wake up and don’t flush our country.

Hillary asked the voters last night at the debate to check the records of each of the candidates rather than rely just on rhetoric. I wish she would get more specific about what she means by her 35 years of experience. I see there are many people who think this has to do solely with being Bill Clinton’s wife. However, before she ever met Bill Clinton, she graduated from the premier women’s college in this country, Wellesley College, and was the first STUDENT ever to deliver the commencement address, much of which was vigorous sentiment against the war in VietNam. She was accepted at Harvard Law school at a time when very few women were accepted there and graduated either first or second in her class. She then was asked to come to Washingon to work with the Dems as they were investigating Nixon for imperachment after the Watergate scandal. He resigned before he was impeached. As First lady of Arkansas she helped develop and pass legislation for cheildren’s health insurance and better eduacation for special needs children. As First Lady in the White House she at least tried to get Universal Health care on the table, perhaps too many years ahead of her time and it appears she has learned a lot from her mistakes in that arena. She is belittled for not having security clearance as First lady. Can you imagine what the press would have done to her and Bill if he had given her such security clearance. Nevertheless she was an eyewitness to the tensions and demands placed upon a president for 8 years. then she ran an almost impossible race for NY senator where the upstate NY area, mostly a Republican area, disliked her intensely. Six years later wheh she ran for a second term, she won handily in nearly all parts of the State of NY. She has been involved in bipartisan accomplishments in the Senate with the likes of McCain and Lindsey Graham among others, and knows the Congressinal ways. She has learned immensely about the military, putting herself in the position to learn and now has excellent relationships with many of the highest ranks in the military who trust her, quite an accomplishment for a woman and a democrat and a requirement for our next president. I fear this country will do what it did in 2000 and 2004: Vote for the guy they would most like to have a beer with. I guess we get what we deserve.

The Press

by Damozel | Following up on D Cupples’ piece on the peril of letting debate sound bites fall too ringingly on your ears, at The American Prospect, Ezra Klein points out the way in which the half-baked opinions of members of the press evolve into media…

Yes, Hillary displayed that her true self is emerging. If she is pushed harder, she will become more angry. I do not know why ABC did not bring up illegal immigration with the Democrats. Hillary’s voting record on illegal immigration and her voting record to make English our national language would have left her screaming if she had to explain it on national television. I suspect ABC was protecting the Dems and it was a disservice to the voters of New Hampshire.

Hilary and her camp do not get the gist of the change that the country thirsts for. We need to get past the politics of division that Reagan, Clinton, and GW Bush have thrust upon this country. Every time Hilary touts her 35 years, it make me cringe over the damage done to the country by Mr Clinton – a truly brilliant but divisive figure. We wasted 8 years under Clinton in the energy, healthcare, social security and even defense sectors. He did not solve any of those big problems in my book, and I am staunch democrat. In other words I cut him a lot of slack, and still found myself wondering what he really accomplished. The country does not need to rehash his failures in over this coming election period.

I wonder how many of these posters work for Hillary? Her lack of experience is what offends me. As Obama said, I believe, she wasnt’ Treasury Secretary!! Heck, she never even owned a house until they bought Bill’s place up in Weschester County! I am a moderate Republican and can admit that Obama is a fascinating movement. I know enough about the Clinton machine not to want to see all that comes with it again.

This is angry? You have to be kidding.
Obama is “Presidential”? Obviously none of you are from Illinois. If you were, you would know that he is useless. He was useless when he was in the Illinois Legislature. Now he is bragging about how much health care he brought to Illinois citizens! When he was in the Illinois lLegislature heath coverage for Illinois citzens went DOWN. Not just a little, but a lot. Thanks to the “fine work” of Obama, my wife’s pacemaker battery is almost dead and we can’t get help having it replaced. When it dies so does she, unless I come up with $10-15,000 and since we are both disabled and she is not covered by Medicare and because of Obama she isn’t qualified for Medicaid unless we live in a tent and eat out of garbage cans.
So you all go ahead and vote for Obama. You deserve another George Bush to replace the one that is leaving in 2009.
How many months will it take Obama to break George’s record for the most vacation days taken by a President? After all, he has missed more Senate votes than ANY of the other 99 Senators except for Johnson. The only reason Johnson missed more was because he was in a COMA after having a stroke. What is Obama’s excuse, spending too much time with Oprah?

Every democrat at the tables this time, is BAD NEWS, people be-ware!
Sincerely
X – democrat

Personally I do not think Bill really wants her to be President. He has no fire in the belly and does more to hurt her than help [her]. He is not stupid. He knows what he is doing.

Hillary was snarky and shrill. Yes she was ‘mad’ Good thing that there were not ‘lamps’ on the set… ALSO,
SHE NOW HAS BROWN EYES – NOT HER FAKE BLUE ONES…
CLULD BE WE ARE SEEING THE ‘REAL HILLARY…
Poor Biill.
Love and kisses… ps/ that was NOT Presidential..

Jake your bias shines through.
What Hillary clearly pointed out was that in Edwards 6-years he accomplished nothing. His greatest accomplishment as self-described never became law. He pointed out that he accomplished nothing.
As for Obama with even less time in office in the Senate his self-described greatest achievement has also accomplished nothing. Rather than lavish sit down dinners lawmakers can be lavished with cocktail parties, standing only. Obama’s time in the Illinois legislature accomplished even less wherein he voted present instead of taking a stand yes or no.
Why do you not point these things out?

If you care to take the time to look at Hillary’s past you will see that she is nothing but a highly corrupt, power hungry, spineless gold digger. She will break any law to get money whether doing land deals with the Rose Law Firm, taking illegal contributions from the Chinese or whatever. She proved what she really is made of when her husband cheated on her and lied to the world on television about it. She could get more of what she wants by sticking with Bill than having the backbone and strength of conviction to divorce him and try standing on her own strengths. She hasn’t done anything for “35 years” that affects change. She had no power, she was nothing but Bill’s wife.

I wish the staffers would NOT post their 2000 word essays on these blogs.

The Hillary plants are making comments, how nice.

I hear Mrs. Clinton extoll her track record of bringing about change but I wonder why no one has challenged that statement using the fact that her highest profile role of leadership for change is when her husband gave her a leading role in health care reform and, because of her failure in that role, the opportunity for health care reform was buried for the duration of the Clinton administration.

I am no Hillary fan. I think she defended her husband Knowing he was certainly a serial sexual harasser and possibly worse. I find her calculating beyond redemption. Having said that, I think the clip of her defense of her record of change is outstanding and serves her very well. It is perhaps one of the few authentic views of her that we have seen. She was forceful, passionate, convincing and even sympathetic.

I don’t understand why her opponents don’t object to her method of making change.
She made a pretty good chunck of change on the cattle futures.

It’s in her eyes. She just doesn’t “get” it that there might be somebody smarter or even, God forbid more qualified than she is. It’s like, “This is MY time, MY presidency, and no young wannabe is going to to steal my time”, kind of moment in her voice. I think its great. Did you notice Edwards’ face? He was watching for her to “blow”. She was pretty close.

I wonder how many of these posters work for Hillary? \Posted by: bryan | Jan 6, 2008 4:49:48 PM
WHO DO YOU WORK FOR BRYAN????????????????????

I’m certainly no Clinton fan, but I frankly didn’t see that exchange as being “over the top” on Hillary’s part.
Having said that, I do not want her to win.
I don’t think there is a double standard going on here — what I think is the Obama and Edwards camps (as well as the GOP) see blood in the water, and they are going for the knockout against her now that she lost in Iowa and will probably lose NH.
Interesting.

Heated … even angry debate between Clinton, Obama, Edwards and Richardson. This is all today’s Democrat Party has to offer after inheriting a mantle forged by the likes of Jefferson, Jackson, Wilson, FDR and Truman?
Well … come to think of it … maybe it is a bit much to have expected anything else.
With the party now claiming the green label can a recycled Al Gore be far off?

The new Strategic Vision poll has Obama up by 9 points, 38% to Hillary’s 29%, with John Edwards at 19%.
Obama is on a TEAR through NH.

Your very own ‘Ticked-Off Hillary’ Gallery

Some vidcaps from the point in last night’s debate that everyone’s talking about: Hillary showing rage, fear and oh-so-shrill whininess. My life flashed before my eyes and I felt an impending sense of doom. Thankfully it passed after I took some Tums…

Based on what I saw in the debate, anyone who is leaning toward Hilarity doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

What is unfortunate about this blog run-off is that we are reduced to name calling the only female candidate because she showed fire. Obama can eye roll, do nothing and comes off as a hero. My family lives in Ill.(we are african american) and even they question his slick “look at me- the first african american man to… Is it that hard for all of us to actually see beyond skin color and gender and just pick a candidate based on the issues this country is facing? The world dislikes America, the economy tanking under the weight of war spending and national debt, men and women will come home from war and be tossed in a corner;gas prices and job loss will cripple the middle class… and we will have a President who has barely voted on a single issue or worse one how only cares about the right. These next 4 years will prove to be the most difficult time in our history- the world is just waiting to see if the “dumb americans” pick a jr. senator or a george bush redux…. Hillary, John (either one) is better than the two leading candidates.

Either a lot of you that are blogging are republicans, men, or under 30 and don’t have a clue about the politics of the last 30 years. I have read a lot OF WHAT SEEM TO BE MALE ORIENTATED comments on this blog. The others obviously have not really gone to congress website and compared data. The others are just young and naive and if voting for Obama will be putting our country at greater risk than it is with the Bush Admin. Seeing we are hated all over the world all ready, he will just bolster this for he is just like the rest making empty promise awful lot of fluff. He is also cocky and brash and has Bushes go it alone attitude. He has no real talking points except change, but has no plan or action for change. And to attack Ms. Clinton on being angry(which she was not it was passionate). I like to see you all when you believe in something and want to fight for it. I think you all would act the same defense when being attacked and such scrutiny. You have Edwards who was kissing to Obama dreaming on being his VP for he knows he can’t win it. Both are soft men who will crumble when it comes to it. Hillary has gusto to go up against those men. She is the only female in a field of men sitting in those debates and if that is not change then what is. Hillary was back in the 70′s going up against Nixon and she has done a lot in her 30 years or so. More then Obama and Edwards. You voters need to wake up and take a good look at the world. It is not the same and she is a fighter not just a talker who is going to talk down to us but talk to us, she is the only one who is going to work for us. Obama and mark my words is a republican in democrates clothing. He will turn his back on us all, the middle class and america. It is not his time and by voting him in as canidate will bolster the republicans election strategy, and they will win in a national election. Remeber every canidate promises change-but America needs to change at a more moderate pace with the world being in such turmulant times. You all need to take a good look at history before you take America in a direction that we will not be able to turn back from. George Bush has already set our pace for a dim future, but don’t turn out the lights entirely by voting for Obama. PEOPLE WAKE UP-DON’T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE YOU DID 8 YEARS AGO!!!!!!

“PEOPLE WAKE UP-DON’T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE YOU DID 8 YEARS AGO!!!!!!”<–DV fails to realize that Dems HAVE woken up and don't want to make the same mistake they did SIXTEEN years ago.

Jake, I think Hillary’s “anger” was directed at Edwards, not Obama. I really felt sorry for her for having fallen into Edwards’ trap. We all know Edwards was a good trial lawyer, and is capable of eliciting the “desired response” from people using the the power of emotion.
Well, this useless opportunist got the response he wanted from Hillary. He should probably believe now that he has increased his chances of being picked as VP by Obama, should Obama succeed in getting the nomination.
Well, Obama isn’t stupid. Obama will be “nice” to Edwards, but this dude will surely not be Obama’s VP running mate. Obama knows how to play this dude, too.
Hillary’s “anger” over Edwards’ statements was justified, even in a public forum such as the debates. This dude has nothing good to show from all his years in public life.

I get sick and tired of how every time someone says something negative about Hillary then its assumed to be because she is a woman. Or if they say something negative about Barack Obama then it is assumed to be because he is black. Do I think that Hillary’s response is a reason that she should not be elected? No. There are plenty of other perfectly good reasons why she should not win the democratic nomination–the main one being because she is unelectable. In this election she has poll-tested every issue before taking a stand, she has been the last candidate to offer up proposals and her proposals have been shallow at best. Her healthcare plan was a watered down copy of the Edwards healthcare plan which Edwards offered well before she did. She has attempted to pick up the mantle of change only after John Edwards and Barack Obama used it successfully. She claims to have taken part in all the good decisions during the Clinton presidency, but distances herself from the bad ones. If she was really as integral in the decision making of the Clinton Whitehouse, then perhaps she should be held to blame for Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, which she says she would repeal, she should be blamed for the huge healthcare fiasco that absolutely did happen under her watch, NAFTA which has moved hundreds of thousands of jobs to faraway lands, and every other failure of the Clinton years–and there were many. If Hillary really wants to talk about flip-flopping perhaps she should re-examine the “changes” made during the Clinton presidency because her words aren’t matching the actions that were taken in the 90s. The people who try to play the race card or the gender card, please. If you can not defend your candidate on anything other than what they have in their pants or what the color of their skin is then you should rethink your reason for supporting that candidate. In fact, perhaps you shouldn’t even vote at all. 2008 is too important for some idiot who votes on individuals instead of issues to even cast a ballot…if that is the best you can do then stay home.

OH Please, Tony where were you 16 years ago when the first Bush had us at War, left Florida in a mess after a hurricane and left us a huge deficiets. That the Clinton administration pulled us out of. Oil prices wern’t over the roof, as well as the other utilities during his administration. Which this is not about, this is about who can lead us. Obama may be a talker but he is not a leader and I will say it again. He will turn his back on us all, he is the type who will save himself before he jumps in to save you.
You voter’s just need to wake up for Barak is lame and so will his presidency. Why don’t you just ask the some in Illinois how they feel about him. He is a political ploy for all you Clinton haters.
They say that the yound voters want a change, well these young voters that want a change are all still living with Mommy or Daddy, spoiled these days and being a supervisor for my employment seen in the last several years in hiring, that the up and coming youth that is here is lazy, they have no work ethics for every thing has been handed to them. And because they are riding the Obama bandwagon we are holding our future in thier hands. Well that scares me. You might as well vote Brittnay Spears into office then if you are going to vote for Obama. Look at our world when a story about a pop queen is right up there with Election Coverage it is sickening.
It is also sickening that people keep implying about personal stuff when attacking Hillary. Are any of you married, you all lead perfect lives, have perfect brothers or sisters. Are Obama’s parents saints, question were they even married, but oh talk about morals issues.
I am so sick of every one saying he is going to change things-what exactly do you think he is going to do come in and wave a magic wand and every thing is going to be better. NO! Nothing is going to happen, it takes years to recoup what this country has lost and it starts with foriegn policy and economic recovery for we are on the fringes of another cold war due to the Bush policy’s we have gone back 30 years. With China, Russia and Iran becoming so powerful, while we continue to weaken.
What makes me sicker are all pundits falling into this Obama’s bandwagon. I’ve lsiten to him and again he is lam, stuffy, and isn’t right for this country. You can see it he can’t lead, he may have voters backing him, but when congress and the lobbyist(seeing he already has one in his group) get to him he will be fresh meat. He is not strong enough for Washington.
He is not a leader and would be nowhere right now if Oprah did not back him. That was the only push he needed. Trust me one thing I have been able to go all these years is read people, and I am calling this one as I see it.
Plus men are afraid to have a woman president, when all countries middle east as well have had woman leaders.
Dems will be doing themselves in, if Obama is voted in.
I hate to say it, I am with the person who said that they will go to the republican fray if he should get in. For we will be sitting ducks in a dagerous world if he should be our president.

I’m still undecided, so I don’t have any axe to grind. I fact I can’t even decide whether to us the word ax or axe.
I also don’t know why I’m wasting my time responding to an exhaggerated comment by Jake Tapper about Hillary’s “angriness”. It’s like a art critic explaining the meaning of a abstract piece of modern art without even talking to the artist.
I would suggest Jake find something more substantial to talk about and to be more insightful rather than being inciteful.

“OH Please, Tony where were you 16 years ago…?” <– I was the one standing there with the sign in your face, saying "CHARACTER COUNTS," DV, and eight years later, you were the one standing there with egg all over your face after America's first elected IMPEACHED president signed the plea bargain, confessing his BIG LIE, to avoid being hauled into court on charges of perjury and obstruction. You remember, don'tcha, DV? It was shortly after he had pardoned Marc Rich.
So here we are again, and guess what? CHARACTER STILL COUNTS, which is why Obama beat your document-shredding girl's voluminous kiester in Iowa, and appears perched to do the same in New Hampshire. Put that in your report to Chillary Campaign Headquarters, and tell the Empress that her "victim of misogyny" message isn't resonating any better than her "victim of a vast Iowan conspiracy" did, or her newly crafted message of "change" is.

Please God, don’t let Hillary win…I don’t want to move to Canada!
I want the first woman President to be a person of integrity and honor…not a joke, married to a bigger joke that she lied about to save face!

Obama has shown very little character in his life being a party boy druggie during his youth. Has the man had to make one tough decision in his life? or does he hide behind Oprah and the race card?

I know why she is so angry its because she is number one one Judicial Watch’s, Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians” for 2007.
Anyone who votes for her is doing us a great disservice!

Folks, put your mark on your score card. Obama is noting more and nothing less than another George Bush wearing the mantle of the Democratic party. He knows nothing about government oversight or government financing. Nothing about India or China; less about Korea. And worse, he does not know the kinds of leaders needs to head up cabinet posts. (Oprah will probably be Secretary of Agriculture, Jesse Jackson Secretary of Human Services, Mr. Bradley (the DC Mayor) in charge of the Food and DRUG Admin.)
Mount the dias, Mr. Obama Bush!!! Lead us on to yet another know-nothing-presidency.

Yeah, sorry, that’s not angry, that’s emphatic and tough. And it’s crap to call it angry. I’m not convinced about Clinton, but I’m much happier to see that she’s not just a backroom dealmaker, but an impassioned advocate for herself. The clip of her appearance today in the coffee shop is also a plus for her in my book. On the flipside, Obama is looking thinner and thinner in these appearances. As a Chicago Democrat, I was an early fan and now I’m beginning to believe he’s playing a game and just trying to not to mess up some good momentum instead of driving for a result he believes in. He’s running because he can and you should run for President and be President if you have the opportunity. But that doesn’t mean I should vote for him.

Can anyone give the experience OBAMA HAS?

anyone gotten on obama website? you can not even leave a comment!

“Since you are attacking the Clintons it was the GOP who mounted such Ken Starr investigations…”<–You mean Janet Reno, don'tcha, DV? Get your facts straight and spare me your tedious fact-free spin. Your boy was not impeached for adultery, but for lying his face off under oath.

Please dont vote for her. It was very clever for the devil to disguise himself as a women, truly genius and scary. You watch- six months after being elected, churches will be closed by force; after a year, they’ll be forcing us to surrender our firearms, forfeit our freedom of speech and press; a day later half of the american population will be dead for refusing to coply with tyranny; and by the time her term is up it won’t matter because dictators don’t have terms that end at the end of an allotted time, and Dictator of Earth, Hillary, spawn of all sin, will rule all with an iron fist. See, i’ve considered the consequences of the actions i may take, and should do the same. Vote for not Hillary.

I yearn for the days when Hillary will order her stormtroopers to break down our doors and stick machine guns in the faces of our children. Oh, please elect Hillary, please….