Is Bill Clinton Getting in Obama’s Head?
ABC News’ Sunlen Miller Reports: It should have been an easy question for Sen. Barack Obama: “Are you allowing President Clinton to get in your head?”
Yet, it took Obama three tries to answer the question, in what turned into a testy exchange with the New York Times’ Jeff Zeleny following a campaign event in Greenwood, South Carolina.
Watch the VIDEO HERE.
"I am trying to make sure that his statements by him are answered. Don’t you think that’s important?" Obama shot back, while walking away.
When Zeleny yelled a follow up question suggesting the Illinois senator had not answered the question, Obama fired back angrily, "Don’t try cheap stunts like that."
Obama then walked away and shook hands with the mass of voters that surrounded him.
A few minutes later, Obama came back and confronted Zeleny again.
"I will answer your question though off the record, would you like to talk off the record?" Obama asked. Zeleny refused to go off the record and then motioned toward the gaggle of TV cameras gathered around him.
Obama then returned to his supporters and began shaking more hands before returning a third time to the group of reporters.
"My suspicion is that the other side must be rattled if they’re continuing saying false things about us," Obama finally responded, ignoring follow up questions as he left the room.
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This is wonderful. Bill
gets to play “bad cop”
and say whatever negative
things he wants to about
Obama and travel the
low road and Hilliary
gets to play “good cop” and
stick to the high road.
When Obama strikes back,
he has to strike at Bill.
When Obama does object
in public and hold
Hilliary responsible, she
claims that Bill is his
own man and not the
candidate. For the
Clintons it is a winning
strategy which they will
repeat in the general
election. The competition
is forces to respond to
Bill giving her a bye.
Posted by: Beto | January 22, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Obama is losing it! He can’t take the heat, definitely was getting used to the free ride and lack of scrutiny of his record. We here in Illinois are not impressed with his first term as U.S. Senator; why he should deserve the Presidency…maybe because the time for a black President? that doesn’t make any sense, The election of a President shouldn’t about race, it should be about agenda, leadership, proven experience, proven record, integrity and knowledge and in many of those Obama shows that he’s not ready.This is nothing compared with what the Republicans have prepared for him and then no matter how much he whines he better be ready; but he is not; he can’t take criticism or scrutiny last night he was shouting away like a brat.
Posted by: Mary in Illinois | January 22, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
yes!! obama is. you know what obama lies about everything. after iowa he tought he was the cock of the walk. acting like he had it all wraped up. the song that he was playing after the caucas was sign sealed delivered i’m yours. so he thought he could walk a over this thing. well looks like he can’t. he is frusterated in the fact that he is not winning. so he has to whine. boo hoo obama boo hooo…
Posted by: greg | January 22, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
You failed to point out that Jeff Zeleny was being extremely rude by interrupting Obama at his campaign event, where Obama was trying to greet and talk to actual South Carolina voters, not New York Times reporters.
Posted by: bob | January 22, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
This is the second non story from ABC today on Obama! How about the endorsement of the State Newspaper in S.C. and remarks on Clinton!
What is the point! Such blogging or reporting as this is child play!!!
Posted by: one | January 22, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Zeleny is also co-author of a news article in today’s NYT that makes the unwarranted claim that Obama “appeared on the verge of losing his temper at times” during last night’s debate. Zeleny appears to have his own pre-conceived storyline and he seems intent on running with it regardless of the facts.
Posted by: Mike | January 22, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Looks like another 4 years of 50+1 politics…looks like Obama is 4 years too early.
Posted by: kc | January 22, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Amen, bob: the question was a thinly veiled attempt to bait Obama into paying right into the Clintons’ insane assertion that he was “frustrated by his losses in NH and NV.” And YES: Zeleny was being a total jerk by yelling a question like that over the top of a crowd of supporters.
Barack Obama was not responding to his losses in NH and NV, he was responding to the dirty politics of the Clintons, and specifically, to the LIES coming from Bill.
Wake up America. The entire premise of HRCs candidacy is that Obama’s just as much of a dirty politician as she is; that he’s just as dishonest, just as corrupt. So you might as well vote for her because all politicians are awful, and at least she’s experienced. WHAT THE HELL KIND OF RATIONALE FOR A PRESIDENCY IS THAT?!?!
We deserve better than that.
Posted by: John | January 22, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
The truth of the matter is that Bill Clinton’s campaigning is inappropriate for a former President. I don’t care if his Missus is running for President. If she’s that talented, she wouldn’t need his constant assistance. If Bill can’t keep his mouth shut now, imagine the petty chaos he’ll create as America’s First Man.
Posted by: Loyal Democrat | January 22, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Bill and Hillary are two of the biggest liers man has ever seen. People seem to be fascinated by their “strategy,” but it won’t be funny when you have to prove to the gov. that you have health Insurance or you have to pay for it with yet ANOTHER payroll deduction (tax). It won’t be funny when you get ANOTHER NFTA,CAFTA etc. and your jobs leave the country. Better wake-up! The Clintons are not a joke. When you laugh at somebody eleses expense, before long, you’ll be paying the tab!
Posted by: joe adams | January 22, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Obama feels because he is half black that should give him special treatment he is no better than the clintons or any one else is okay for him to go tpo a segregated church its okay for him to buy a house he cannot fford with a well known drug king pin come on people how blind can yuou be obama is the biggest joke of this race vote with your brains not skin color we are all the same
Posted by: lets be serious | January 22, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Obama is right. Clintons are running scared. A dog does not bark at a parked car.
Posted by: Karen | January 22, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Let us see if the press plays this over and over again and refers to it as a blow-up like they did with Bill Clinton and Mitt Romney reactions to the press over the last few weeks.
Posted by: Eric | January 22, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
It seems increasingly that a vote for the Clintons is an endorsement of the cronyism, hyper-partisanship, and campaign hackjobs we’ve been forced to grow accustomed to.
Hillary represents, at best, a slight upgrade over our current knucklehead.
Posted by: Kenny Pice | January 22, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
This is clear bisis on the part of the media, If Bill Clinton was any one but Bill Clinton his intro in every artical would read.
Is Bill Clinton getting into Obama’s head?
The former President Bill Clinton (Fellon) spoke today….
Has everyone forgot that Clinton copped a plea on his last day in office? Or that the Special Prosector could have conviceted the Hil in any other local in the usa, but not washington DC She will lose the genreal by a wide margin and take the rest of the party with her and My bet is that Gore will then try to save the party. After all who is next? Obama? Could well be if he does not give up and let her rule the roost.
These two are way too much for the country to stand, and it would be a mess from day one.
The other part is the economic conditions not much a president can do to help the econimc conditions. Sorry but that is the truth. Her wild spending trying to do any thing will cost her in the end.
Her campaign will ever be a issue in the Gereral, as it is rifle with fraud and pay offs.
But who is surprised Iowa tried to help us out… but she tricked a lot of people who other wise would have voted for OBama into voting for McCain IN NH by crying it was Clinton tricks again Slick Willie at it again.
Hil must go. What will she do call Bill in AK. to come beat up someone who gives her a hard time in the WH? Bill would be hard to find as I am sure he would be with some bimbo.
Posted by: James C. Karmer | January 22, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Why does Obama keep doing Clinton’s job for him? They’ve gone after this newbie and plan to paint him as incapable of dealing with the much fiercer Republican attacks to come. Obama, you’re a good Clintonite politician, but you’re not as good as the Clintons.
Posted by: Tony | January 22, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Jeff Zeleny doersn’t like Barack Obama and has tried to get under his skin repeated ly on the campaign trail. Like many of the Times’ reporters, and those at WaPo, they seem to be shilling for Hillary and Bill.
As any good reporter knows, you take ANY opportunity to talk to a candidate, on or off the record. Access is the name of the game and Zeleney just blew his.
Posted by: Jade7243 | January 22, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Hillary wins and you will see same old guard come in. Nothing with change.
Vote for Hillary will give the GOP CPR.
I won’t vote for her… Won’t do it and 40% of dems won’t do it either.
I would rather let McCain run the country further down the rat hole.
Posted by: RB | January 22, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
No . . . you mean there’s a reporter out there that doesn’t worship the ground Obama walks on? Well knock me over with a feather!
Posted by: Tiffany Craig Brown | January 22, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Lets us all not forget how many pardons Bill Clinton gave out on his last days in office. The great part of being a corrupt President, is that you can liberate your cronies from prison before you leave office and capitalize on drug trafficing and slave trading in a modern world. Today he announced he is liquidating his Camen investments and his partnership in Dubai. $20 million dollars on his partnership alone. What did it cost the taxpayers for that return? I am lost to understand how people can still support the Billary team when they are so obviously corrupt.
Posted by: cjvwise1 | January 22, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
i dont understand why people say obama is losing or lost NH and NV.
he won in iowa.
he tied hillary in delegates in NH.
he got 1 more delegate than hillary in NV.
right now Obama is leading in delegates.
he is the leader in this race right now.
Posted by: gd | January 22, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
The Clintons are not getting in Obama’s head. What they are doing is dangerously playing petty politics. They are surprised that the democratic populous has decided to take a critical eye, and make a solid choice for leadership. It is clear that the elephants will be swept from office not only in the WH, but the Congress as well. They have allowed the banking buddies and war machine friends to screw up this country. The american public has already said that a business man from Texas will never be president again.
Hillary thought that this was going to be a cake walk, but found out that there are other voices that are just as capable as her if not more capable to lead this country.
The tag team approach if they are not careful will turn blacks and progressive democrats and new voters away from the party. People are tired of the SOS that was popularized by the Republicans.
Posted by: enyapjeff | January 22, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
BILL’S OBAMA STRATEGY
It takes an attack dog to know an attack dog…Bill Clinton’s ex-buddy Dick Morris’ take on Bill’s Obama Strategy below…point by point
“WHY is Bill Clinton courting such intense publicity, in evitably much of it negative?
Is he crazy? Crazy like a fox.
He has two goals and is achieving them both spectacularly.
First, he wants to be the same kind of lightning rod for Hillary that she was for him during his run for the presidency.
Now, she rarely gets hit anymore. They’re hitting Bill instead.
The other method behind his madness is that Bill wants to suck up all the oxygen in the room and dominate the coverage of the Democratic contest. By doing so, he cuts Obama out of the news, pushes him off the front page, and usurps the headlines.
His tactics now are reminiscent of those he used to black out John Kerry during the lead-up to the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
Ultimately, the Clintons are playing a game of jujitsu with Obama, using his own strength against him.
By challenging Obama for the black vote – by promising to go door to door in South Carolina in minority neighborhoods, for example – Bill is highlighting the question: Will Obama carry the black vote? Of course, he will. He leads, 4 to 1, among African-Americans now.
But by making that the central question, Obama’s South Carolina victory will be hailed as proof that he won the African-American vote. Such block voting will trigger the white backlash Sen. Clinton needs to win.
Once whites see blacks voting en masse for a black man, they will figure that it is a racial game and line up for Hillary. Already, she carries white voters by 2 to 1.
Posted by: anghiari | January 22, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
We know media moguls do not want Obama to win and they have been supporting hillary. This is another example. How about covering the pending multi million fraud against the clintons in Califronia.
Posted by: sam.madino | January 22, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
From the Washington Post, a key read for coherent feminists interested in politics …
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/broaddrick022599.htm
Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | January 22, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
I respect feisty-ness, and I think there’s a difference between being feisty and having someone “in your head.” Obama’s not taking Bill’s crap smiling, which is a relief to see.
Posted by: justin | January 22, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
Yes Let’s see if this story gets played over and over again – like Whitewater, like something called Filegate, like Hillary killed Vince Foster, like something called Travelgate – let’s just see if it gets played the same way the Republicans and complicit Dems played the Clintons while in office.
You all kept trying and it didn’t work so let’s see if Obama can stand up to the scrutiny. Let’s see if Obama is still standing at the end of the day after Bill says a few nasty things about him. Let’s see what he does under oath when the Rezko thing gets heated up. Let’s see what he has to say about Mr. Rezko (thank you Patrick Fitzgerald) when his name comes up in his trial. Let’s have Mr. Obama explain his LAND deal in which he got a house worth 2 million thanks to his buddy Rezko. Let’s get a special prosecutor to look into that LAND deal in which the Obamas profitted. Let’s look at Michelle Obama’s ties to corporate America and health care. Let’s just….
Posted by: Sue | January 22, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
It’s an inappropriate question, really. It’s a sports metaphor. In a sporting match, “getting in someone’s head” means you’re distracting them from executing their game plan.
I’m sure Obama doesn’t want to spend the bulk of his time counterpunching, but accusations are part of the political game. Attacks need to be parried. Ask Kerry. It’d be easier if the attacks weren’t so fuzzy and shifty, but addressing these attacks means Obama *does* have his head in the game.
The Clintons are engaging in an old Republican tactic, spreading FUD via innuendo and ‘liberal’ interpretations. It is disgusting and unbecoming. We’ll see if Billary can count on the gullibility of the crowds to carry them to victory.
Posted by: Charles Follymacher | January 22, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
You’ve got the kidding me. Comments here are suggesting the media is on the Clintons’ side? That’s the biggest “fairy tale” I’ve hever heard. Hillary has had a horrible relationship with the media for decades. NBC outwardly admitted that they were mesmerized by Obama (the former Obama, that is, the candidate that was “above the fray” and “non adversarial” – we lost him). If anything, the media is so hard on the Clintons that this turn around into questioning Obama even ever so slightly is showing how weak of a person and a candidate Obama seems to be. Don’t screw it up by letting him be another losing nominee like his buddy Kerry. Omg was Kerry a mess.
Posted by: Legalknievel | January 22, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
If he can’t keep it together now the republicans will destroy him. The media has been letting slide and he’s now face with people who are going to confront any thing he does or says and he can afford to make one mistake.
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | January 22, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
The media is salivating over Obama’s mental breakdowns as of late. Trust me, they love to prop people up and tear them down. I think they are playing him with kid-gloves since he is so quick to scream RACISM.
Stick a fork in him. He is so done.
Posted by: Fi fi la rue | January 22, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Whoa! Already acting like Bush. What a twerp.
The trouble with this guy is for some reason he thinks he should be protected from the grilling and smearing that the Clintons have endured for nearly twenty years. They’re still on their feet, never got nasty with the press or even Ken Starr.
I guess this is Obama’s “Chicago Smackdown.” I doubt it’s the strategy used by Mayor Daley.
Posted by: tekk | January 22, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
fasteddie: Get up with the times. Hillary left SC yesterday, she’s not going door-to-door. People are not such sheep as you think, Republicans only. Democrats, generally, think for themselves. That’s why Hillary is still winning despite the media and the Democrats’ touting of Obama.
Posted by: tekk | January 22, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
Karen, a dog also barks at DANGER! Trying to alert those for which the dog is loyal to.
Posted by: irma | January 22, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
Obama ahead by delegates? Oh gd. You mean you rather focus on delegates than the people who are voting? Hmmmm.
Posted by: irma | January 22, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
At least Obama didn’t cry.
Posted by: JVoter | January 22, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
Barack Obama came to Nevada knowing he had little chance of winning, and yet he fought on to gain a majority of the national delegates. Hillary came just a couple of days to South Carolina, mostly to participate in a nationally-televised debate, and then decided Sc is just not worth it and will actually be leaving the state well before the primary. Think about it. She’s not interested in winning the people to her philosophy of governing; once she figured out the SC voters aren’t worth anything to her, they became invisible. What a crass act.
Posted by: DrToketee | January 22, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
It’s funny how all these Obama supporters here are failing to mention that Obama attacked Hillary first. Please all you Obama supporters need to check your facts. I miss the Clinton White House Years and so does my wallet!!
Posted by: Lou | January 22, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Testy Obama = Dean Scream.
Stick a fork in him, he’s done.
No one likes an ANGRY candidate. If he can’t handle Clinton, how will he deal with McCain?
How will he deal with Kim Jong Il? Putin? Hu Jintao? Will he get “testy” with them as well? Complain that they’re ganging up on him?
He’ll win one primary by a smaller margin than he expects, and then he’ll be annihilated on Super Duper Tuesday.
He’s coming across as mean, mad, lame, weak, shaken and chastened. Not positive qualities for the Leader of the Free World.
He started out well, but he’s flaming out. He needs a bit more seasoning before he’ll be ready for prime time.
Posted by: Heyo Ha | January 22, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Interesting that your supporters really know you, when, as Senator you voted “present” over 100 times on crucial issues, rather than yes or no. Don’t you have any views that you are comfortable with? Waiting to see who will clue you in on how to think? So let me see if I have this right; not fair that you are not a good debater, but totally fair for you to make dreamy speeches with no explanation on how you will do it. I mean other than you’re a cheery fella and that has brought you this far. So cheery and aloof on real issues. Yeah, sounds like all the leaders I know.
Posted by: irma | January 22, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
So, is the news gonna show him losing his temper over and over again like they showed that clip of Bill last week?
Posted by: Mike | January 22, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
First of all you delegate people need to check the NV state statue on that because the delegates of that state do not get awarded untill April.
Posted by: Lou | January 22, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Why did you use “confronted again”? First, the “again” is inaccurate. No where in your reporting does it suggest that Obama “confronted” Zeleny a first time. Both of Obama’s initial statements came in response to questions from Zeleny. Second, “confronted” is a loaded term. It suggests that Obama came at him angrily. Actually, it suggests that he went at him physically. Instead, Obama said/asked “I will answer your question though off the record, would you like to talk off the record?”
Basically, quit editorializing, particularly when doing so seems like an attempt to make Obama seem angry or threatening. It might make people think the author of this piece has … issues.
Posted by: loaded terms | January 22, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
I’m glad Clinton is getting in Obama’s head becuse apparently nothing else is!
Posted by: casey | January 22, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
TiffanyCraigBrown, you’re funny.
Posted by: irma | January 22, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
Dick Morris’ first name is most apt. What a Johnny Come Lately” he is. Gee, I am so glad the media digs under rocks for their talking heads.
Posted by: irma | January 22, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Democrats, please remember: she CANNOT win the general. Keep your eye on the 11/08 ball before its too late. She will rally the Republicans like nobody else and John McCain will be our next President. She cannot win the general. Do something about it before its too late…remind every Democrat you know: a vote for Hillary is a vote for McCain.
Posted by: malarson2 | January 22, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
We’re not afraid of McCain, we can take him. Next!
Posted by: irma | January 22, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
The repub machine will tear Obama to shreds. Look how he reacts with Clintons under fire, repubs will tear him apart, Obama will completely loose it under the repub pressure and attacks that await him if he wins the nomination. If your a democrat do not spread remarks like those, we’ve had enough fear politics from this current presidency.
Posted by: Lou | January 22, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
The Clintons are dead to me. My erstwhile political heroes have sullied themselves beyond repair with their cheap shots at Obama, a decent man. The Democratic Party does not belong to them and I deeply resent their rage at actually being challenged for its leadership.
I will never, ever, vote for them in November if they win the nomination. If I, a lifelong liberal Democrat, am saying that, just how many independents and Republicans do you think they’ll steal away? Zero.
They are destroying my party from the inside and I’d rather trade 4 years of John McCain for finally freeing the Democrats from the Clintons’ stranglehold. How dare they?
Posted by: John Y | January 22, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Of COURSE they’re getting to him – the Clinton Machine is slicing him up pretty good, and now the media piles on. It’s all so predictable – I hope his skin grows thicker.
Posted by: billary | January 22, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
In today’s Washington Post, columnist Eugene Robinson speculated about Bill Clinton”s “red faced … anger.”
Here is a plausible explanation from the Post’s own archives:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv
/politics/special/clinton/stories/broadd
rick022599.htm
Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | January 22, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Hillary was for Nafta, now she thinks NAFTA is not such a good idea. Hillary voted for the war, now she doesn’t think the war is such a good idea. Hillary voted for open trade with China, now she doesn’t think it’s a good idea. Does she have any judgement or vision? Or does she just go with the sheep?
How about a visionary president!!
OBAMA 08
Posted by: erizin | January 22, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
While we play politics, our economy is tanking and Bill Clinton just made
$20 million today from a Dubai partnership collaborated while he was president. His assets should be siezed and returned to the taxpayers of the US. Hillary wants her piece of the pie. Where is she worthy of support of any kind.
Posted by: cjvwise1 | January 22, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Yeah maybe he can sell the white house lawn to Rezco!
Posted by: Lou | January 22, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
The Clinton’s have shown their ugly, power hungry sides, and it ain’t pretty.
They don’t give a damn about the Democratic party at this time, only winning the nomination at any cost. It is a shame that the Democratic party is being divided by these squabbles, it might eventually cost the democrats, the presidency, this year.
Posted by: Maryjane | January 22, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
the clintons are gross. it’s unfathomable that anyone could actually like anything about them at this juncture. they’re double-talking, hyper-ambitious slimebags who are trying to trump up race issues in order to trigger white racism against obama. he’s not perfect, but at least he’s not a 65-year old tool of an unethical, serpentine political dynasty.
Posted by: lefty | January 22, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Obama has become used to the press being all starry-eyed, asking him questions about “And just how inspiring ARE you, Senator? Please please tell us!”, and eating him up like candy.
He has never had to face the hostile microphones shoved in his face and reporters following him like jackals to catch every slip and misstep and jump him in a pack.
HILLARY HAS BEEN THERE, DONE THAT, AND CAN KEEP HER HEAD HIGH AND A SMILE ON, EVEN WITH HOSTILE PRESS. OBAMA REACTS LIKE A SULLEN TEENAGER BECASE HE HAS NEVER FACED IT, AND DOESN’T KNOW HOW.
That is the truth. Like him or not, HE IS NOT READY TO DO THIS. Democrats had better wake up and get behind the candidate who can hand the Republicans their asses on a platter in November, and can do it EVEN IF THE PRESS TRIES TO SLAM HER. Name me another Democrat can do that. There isn’t one.
Posted by: CarolinaGirl | January 22, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Obama must know who Jeff Zeleny and anyone reading this article should also know who the reporter is and what his biases are in this race. His recent piece in the NYT has already been criticized on several blogs for the way it described the SC debate and its selective and deliberate uses of adjectives in describing Senator Obama. This is as much a story as Krugman writing another hit piece on Obama would be. Has NYT not made its endorsement yet? I wish they would, so their credibility in this fight would diminish.
Posted by: Bobby | January 22, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
When’s the last time a former President constantly blasts a member of his own party running for President. And blasts him every day all day?
Posted by: johnnydrama | January 22, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Well said CarolinaGirl.
Posted by: Lou | January 22, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
a sign of deep frustration and realization that he will never win at this time in history–his support is sinking and he knows it–he has reached his zenith
Posted by: william pappas | January 22, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
Obama should just cut his losses and move on. He’s constantly on defense and it doesn’t look good. Sure, the Clintons made some distortions, but it has happened on both sides. Obama is just upset that they can get it out there in the media better than he can. It’s politics. He’s coming off holier than thou. His hands are not the least bit clean. In fact, right after the ABC debate, when they made the truce, his spokeman went after Hilary, and Hilary’s spokeman reamined cordial. In this last debate, he misquoted what Bill said about him, and he misquoted what Hilary said about the bankruptcy vote. Just move on, dude.
Posted by: joe b. | January 22, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Obama does not like to answer questions! Geez people! Get it right! He’s a talker, not a responder. All talk no action. He only wants to talk about his opponents not himself. See, part of his supporters’ campaign strategy is something like this; “Don’t like them, vote for Obama and if you can’t vote for him, don’t vote for them. Even if you end up financially worse off in the end, at least we stood on some sort of principle of Hate, uh, uh, hope……”
Posted by: irma | January 22, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Maybe it’s a little disoncerting for a Democratic candidate for President to be constantly attacked by a former President of his own party.
How is Obama supposed to respond? By attacking Bill Clinton? A former President of his own party.
Posted by: scriptmaniac | January 22, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Everyone just needs to cut it out, because all politicians are scum. So untill we as americans get off are mcDonalds eating Starbucks drinking asses and start some revolution, just vote for what ever scumbag you relate to better!!
Posted by: Lou | January 22, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
If anyone taped the SC debate, I ask you to forward to the part about health care. Watch how Obama shoots Edwards dirty looks TWICE. I didn’t catch it at first, but rewatched it tonight and couldn’t believe it. The camera person caught the first glare, then zoomed out to show Barack and Edwards on the second glare. Your sides will split watching that again.
Posted by: srsly | January 22, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
President Bill Clinton has sullied the office he held for eight years by the manner in which he has conducted himself in his wife’s campaign. He should take the high road and let his wife do the slugging. His performance will only hurt her campaign and make us ask the question again — do we really want Hillary and Bill Clinton in the White House again? As a life long Dem, and one who voted for BC twice, I am frankly sad by the way he has conducted himself — she lost my vote by his behavior.
Posted by: Bill | January 22, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
If Hillary was not in the race, EVERYONE in the Democratic Party would be lobbying him to campaign for THEIR candidate, even in the primaries.
Only the people who think their candidate is hurt by his efforts are complaining. This is uncharted territory and complainers look like whiners – including the media.
Posted by: JB | January 22, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
I would like to thank Bill and Hillary Clinton for doing what, up until now, I thought was impossible; making the republicans look civilized.
The republicans look good by comparison…and I can’t believe I just wrote that. But it’s true…since when are the republicans the ones to take high road?
We need a uniter. Hillary couldn’t unite a light bulb with a light socket.
Posted by: greg | January 22, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
It’s clear from the Reno editorial transcript that the Clinton’s are distorting Obama’s interview for political advantage. It is also clear from the past two weeks that they are not above playing the race card, if ever so subtly, in order to marginalize Obama and drive him out of the race. Bill Clinton has become the Carl Rove of the Democratic Party. It’s sad, really. More pathetic than sad even.
Posted by: Mike | January 22, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Obama is once again showing the world what a crybaby he is. His behavior is childish.
Posted by: Nic | January 22, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
I would be frustrated too dealing with bold-faced liars. Hillary repeated the lie last night (1-21-08), saying at he debate that she “read the transcript” and that Barack said that the GOP had “good ideas.” She is too shrewd for this to have been an error-this repeating a known lie even after it had been disproved by the media!
Posted by: kevinmcd | January 22, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
That’s right JB! Sock it to ‘em baby. Where were you people when the media had a cannibalistic feast when they thought they got Hillary out of the way? Why weren’t you all standing up against that? No one is calling Obama names or making derogatory statements about him. They are saying what he is doing wrong. For some reason that’s not allowed. And all his supporters have in his defense over and over is insults about the Clintons, old dirt that we are over and wiser about. Truth is, there are more people who are Democrats than there are Republicans. So even if the Republican base unites against Clinton, we still have a chance for the majority of the people to live a little better.
Posted by: irma | January 22, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Barack is just throwing a hissy fit that Hillary has Big Dog Bill and Barack has Franken-Kerry the loser.
I hope drunken Kennedy endorses Barack next.
Posted by: jkas | January 22, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Irma come onboard HIllary Nation!
Posted by: Lou | January 22, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
As a Hillary supporter, I have to say what’s truly sad is that all this negativity and talk about the past isn’t necessary. If Iowa had seen the Hillary we saw in New Hampshire, Hillary would have won Iowa … but Hillary’s success in NH has clearly been erased from the campaign scene. My questions: Which is the real Hillary? … the year in Iowa or the five days in NH. So far, that answer seems to be the former rather than the latter, so I’d like to know why? “Personal in NH” Hillary could win the nomination without burning so many bridges … but no we’ve been forced back to arrogant Hillary who lectures us daily so WHY? Is it a broken culture within the campaign that’s giving her this bad advice?
Posted by: IADemNDC | January 22, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
To all you Barack supporters-
When Barack loses – which he will- just think- you can play the race card again and again and again.
Maybe you can loot the streets and get a free tv out of it, eh?
Posted by: jkas | January 22, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
i love obama. he is a kind and thoughtful man of good judgement. his best thoughts and words fly above the pornography of these events. what a shame the way negativity always wins. it is so much easier to tear down than build. never underestimate the stupidity of the american voter. it is sad, real sad.
Posted by: andy | January 22, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Claire, can you be that gullible as to believe everything you are told?
surprising that the press doesn’t look at it from another angle. That maybe obama has gotten into both Clinton’s heads and that is why they have been going after him so much.
Amazing how defined by the old fashioned conventional thinking and wisdom that the press and many posters do not concider things from a different view.
especially concidering that Obama doesn’t fit into the boxes that people keep trying to put him in.
I won’t be surprised to find the press with egg on their faces again by playing the games of the clintons and looking at things from their point of view.
Posted by: vwcat | January 22, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
I cannot believe anyone in their right mind would want someone as underhanded and evil as Hilary Clinton to be their President. How can any voter ever trust what she would say if she were President if she cannot be trusted in what she says in her campaign. If we think GW Bush is bad, wait until Hilary takes control, I firmly believe that would be the end of the US as we know it.
Posted by: Anny | January 22, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
What is going on with ABC, is this what they call political analysis? Give me a break, MSM is so pro Hillary that it’s not even funny
Posted by: sam madino | January 22, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Sorry, to those of you good people who are Obama supporters. It must seem real bad right now. I don’t have any ill will against you, just the double standards. I guess we are enjoying our turn for once.
Posted by: irma | January 22, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
The ones LOSING IT are the Clintons. Hillary is something like 20 pts ahead of Obama in the national polls. Why is she even bothering to attack Obama? Why give him FREE COVERAGE? Because….each State that Obama approaches, his polls improve and get within margin of error – That’s Why!
They are running scared the Clintons. They think this Presidency is OWED them – it’s not.
Posted by: Coonsey | January 22, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
there is something about south carolina that makes folks strange. obama, romney, miss south carolina…”.such as and such as and maps for iraq”
Posted by: rw | January 22, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
Wow. That passes for “testy”? That’s a man who’s let another man “in his head?”
How about you stop covering the race like it’s high school and focus on policy?
Posted by: Brendan | January 22, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Please not again. Didn’t we get enough.
Sex,lies,scandals, cigars, and impeachment for lying. What an embarrassment to himself and the country. My Republican friends are still rubbing salt in my wounds.After watching these two dignified people(Clintons) for the past 2 weeks, I feel like the Dixie Chicks, I am embarrased the Clintons are from America!
Posted by: Frankie Hodge | January 22, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
I don’t think “Clinton” and “head” being used in the same sentence is any good thing for this country.
If I weren’t for Obama, I would have been for Edwards. If not Edwards, then Richardson. If not Richardson, then Dodd.
Catching my drift? I am sick and tired of lying, scheming, sleazy, “It depends on what the definition of ‘is’ is” politics, and I am tired of Republicans owning the trust and character issue. REPUBLICANS. The party of graft and corruption.
But thanks to the Clintons, yes REPUBLICANS have owned the trust and character issue.
If Democrats are dumb enough to be loyal to this corrupt family, then I am sorry, but they deserve the drubbing they will receive in November.
Posted by: Mark McGee | January 22, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Obama simply did not answer the question asked about the economy. Also, we did not hear him drive his slogan ‘hope’. He said the word only two times. Is he still talking change and hope?
Obama needs to focus on the issues, ignore the Clintons, and learn strategies to manage the heat from the Clintons and others. I do not think that he will get a free pass that he gets from his politically correct Democratic party when the Republics come beating him left and right. If he cannot handle a punch from HRC then how will be deal with Karl Rove? He will call him racist?
Posted by: Vee | January 22, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
ABCNews…FauxNews wanna-bes.
Is this the best they got? Is this the most dirt they can dredge up on Obama?
Desperatation.
Posted by: RobK | January 22, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Apparently ABC doesn’t know what the word “testy” means. Usually the people involved aren’t smiling. That’s a pretty good hint.
Overhype much?
Posted by: Keith | January 22, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Erm…someone help me out here. I watched the video..I’m I’m wondering where the “anger” was, or why this is being reported as a “testy exchange”. What the hell? Obama did not raise his voice, or look angry, or do anything unbecoming of a presidential candidate. What is all this?
The actual video does not match the written account of the incident…what is going on? More attempts to promote the Clinton “Obama is frustrated” line?
Sheesh.
Posted by: Chima | January 22, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
I am so tired of Obama whining like a spoiled brat. He came to a debate with one thing on his mind and that was to tell the whole world how Bill Clinton is talking about him. I am sorry to hear that someone who wants to be president has been mixed up with a drug dealer and has gotten a 2 millon dollar home. I wonder what he will have to do if he becomes president for that. Talking about spouses I remember when Obama won Iowa and his daughter was worried that he might loose New Hampshire to Edwards and Michelle told her not to worry Edwards did not have enough money to win. So lets not talk about Bill.
Posted by: Hedy | January 22, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
That’s Obama rattled? I bet he could defuse a bomb while sipping a martini.
Posted by: Ed | January 22, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
BillaryisJustLikeBush
If you did not what politics is …thats what it is ….permanent self interests not conscience. Obama’s inability to respond to questions directly and getting defensive is not better than ‘I did not have sex with that woman’.
Posted by: victoria | January 22, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
If you people don’t want Bill to say anything then tell Obamas wife to hush. And poor little man Obama finally getting some light on him, with light comes questions. He acts as if he is only to be agreed with, how dare anyone ask things that need to be answered.
Posted by: pesojoe | January 22, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
This is a totally bogus story. I saw this headline earlier today and thought that he’d lost his temper. Then I watch the video and see that it’s nothing like that? What on earth are you people reporting? It’s one thing for this to be on you blog but now it’s also in your sneak peak section with the same misleading headline.
This is completely out of bounds reporting on your part. There’s no anger, no losing of themper, and the guy is completely composed. How can you keep running with this :frustrated Obama” thread? It’s straight from the Clinton camp and pretty transparent.
Posted by: A | January 22, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
ABC(All Bout Clinton) as usual has
Missed the Point!
Obama raised the Most Important
Question in the Debate!
Who is he running against Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton?
If Hillary Clinton is qualified to be President why does bill Clinton answer
her opponents criticizm of her time and time again?
Can’t she stand on her own two feet?
Do we want a president who has to go running to her husband to make a decision?
It looks to me like the Clintons are trying to circumvent the Constitution and if and when Hillary is elected,
Bill Clinton will actually be the president!
Bill Clinton will be the Ventriloquist
and Hillary will speak when he moves her mouth!
Posted by: reaganfan | January 22, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
why whould the former president of the Harvard Law Review need to be associated w/ a drug dealer?
what’s really strange is that a former president of the Harvard Law Review would be living in a $2mm house! Those former presidents of the Harvard Law Review usually like to slum it…
Posted by: amp | January 22, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
@Irma, yes, you keep you eye on the immediate prize. It’s the delegates that determine who wins the nomination.
Posted by: ftroit | January 22, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
What the press should be reporting on and making headlines out of is Bill’s involvement in this campaign and his outright lies. This surely make me question whether she will be able to run the country or not, if she cant run her own campaign and on her own. After all, did daddy George campaign for son George?
I WILL WALK THROUGH GLASS ON MY HANDS AND KNEES IF I MUST, IN ORDER TO VOTE AGAINST HILLARY AND VOTE FOR HER OPPONENT, WHOMEVER IT MAY BE.
I am completely disgusted by the stunts of BOTH HER AND BILL.
Posted by: Paul | January 22, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Posted by: reaganfan,
Exactly! And for all those people saying he can help her lead, well what if he dies(which I couldn’t less if he did since I hate them both so much right now)?! Which won’t be long juding by all the veins popping out of his head every time he goes off during some interview. I wonder why that is never reported?!
Posted by: Angie | January 22, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
They probably are getting into his head. It is clear they are gutter trash filth and he is not. I think most everyone can see that. These people have no morals. The have no consistency in ANYTHING they say. Just panderers, liars, crooks, amoral…etc. I wish them nothing, which is better than what they deserve.
Posted by: Marcus W. --Tampa | January 22, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
I observed the Nevada Caucuses at Precinct 303 in Carson City. Clinton supporters keep claiming that she won the majority of the popular votes in Nevada. Fact is – no one knows. The ballyhooed Clinton victory in Nevada is for county delegates, of whom Clinton won 51% of 10,561 (yes, that many) elected. What counts are national delegates. Obama is entitled to 13 national delegates, and Clinton to 12. Facts are facts.
The Clinton campaign resorted to hardball tactics in Clark County, perhaps to the point of systematic rule violations. Credible reports are all over the web. Look for further news on this story.
Here are some relevant facts that illustrate how differently Las Vegas voted compared with the rest of the state. Clinton won Clark County, which consists of Las Vegas and environs, with 53% of the delegates. Obama got 43% and Edwards got only 1.5%. In all of the rest of the state, Obama won with 49% to Clinton’s 42% and Edwards ran almost six times stronger, winning 9% of those delegates. Obama won 11 of the other 16 counties in the state, including broad swaths of remote rural areas. He won every significant city outside of Clark County, including Reno, Sparks, Virginia City, Elko, Fallon, Hawthorne and Winnemucca. In the state capital, Carson City, Obama won 11 precincts to Clinton’s 4, and the delegate count was tied in 10 precincts. Obama won 51% of the delegates there to Clinton’s 44%, in a neat reverse of the statewide tally. In remote, mountainous Esmeralda County, Obama trounced Clinton 63% to 26%. How many of the stories in the national media mentioned any of that?
Posted by: Jim Heaphy | January 23, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
ABC News–what is wrong with you (and any number of other blatherers on this blog). How is this a story? For everyone inclined to say Obama’s losing it, either you didn’t watch the video or your deluded by wishful thinking. Hillary yells during the debate (the lines about healthcare) and it plays as passionate, intelligent, committed. Obama shrugs off an idiotic question from a reporter trying to play up substance-less controversy and all of a sudden he’s on the verge of a breakdown. To call this journalism is embarrassing.
Posted by: Chris | January 23, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
After watching the video, hard to justify this story. Poor, poor reporting.
Posted by: Jim | January 23, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
Posted by: Jim Heaphy
Don’t hold your breath for to long Jim, I wouldn’t want you passing out. The press has no plans to report on anything such as what you listed above. You might think it is news worthty, but I guarantee you they do not. Besides, why go against the wonderful HRC?
Posted by: Tim | January 23, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
Obama keeps referring to Bill Clinton’s condemnation of his admiration for the Reagan administration and his claim that the Republican party is the party of ideas as spreading false facts (being mistruthful about his comments, if you will). However, John Edwards also reacted the same way to Obama’s comments. Is John Edwards also spreading untrue remarks about Obama??
Posted by: AF2 | January 23, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
Obama keeps referring to Bill Clinton’s condemnation of his admiration for the Reagan administration and his claim that the Republican party is the party of ideas as spreading false facts (being mistruthful about his comments, if you will). However, John Edwards also reacted the same way to Obama’s comments. Is John Edwards also spreading untrue remarks about Obama??
Posted by: AF2 | January 23, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
LETS FACE IT AND BE REALISTIC. WHO IS THE MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE WHO IS READY TO LEAD THE COUNTRY ON DAY ONE. WE CANNOT TAKE THIS TO CHANCES FOR THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL INHERIT A LOT OF PROBLEM FROM THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION. WE HAVE TO CHOOSE WISELY AND PRUDENTLY AND WE NEED A PERSON WHO HAS THE BRAIN, SMART, HAD EXPERIENCE AND BEEN THERE. IN MY OWN OPINION SENATOR CLINTON IS THE RIGHT PERSON AND SHE A SURVIVOR FOR SHE BEEN ATTACK BY THE REPUBLICAN ATTACK MACHINE FOR 16 YEARS AND SHE STILL STANDING UP AND SURVIVE. REPUBLICAN HATE HER BECAUSE SHE IS A TOUGH WOMAN AND SHE CAN STAND ON HER OWN. THAT’S THE LEADER WE NEED!!! I HOPE ALL WOMEN WILL VOTE FOR HER AND BE PART OF THE HISTORY TO ELECT THE FRIST WOMAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATE OF AMERICA!!! God Bless America!!
Posted by: Samson Lim | January 23, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
Obama keeps referring to Bill Clinton’s condemnation of his admiration for the Reagan administration and his claim that the Republican party is the party of ideas as spreading false facts (being mistruthful about his comments, if you will). However, John Edwards also reacted the same way to Obama’s comments. Is John Edwards also spreading untrue remarks about Obama??
Posted by: AF2 | January 23, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
Obama wasn’t the slightest bit angry! Did anyone watch this? He was smiling and calm the whole time. The Clintons are shameless, go Obama!
Posted by: Mark Morris | January 23, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am
Bill Clinton is dividing the Democratic party. If he keeps it up, the Party will be so divided it will lose the Presidential election. This will be very bad for the country, but will serve the Clintons right. They think that Hillary is entitled to the nomination, and how dare Obama try to take her pony away from her.
Posted by: CaptainVideo | January 23, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
If Clinton were to win, we would have the same divisiveness that we had in the 90′s all over again. As a result, there would be political gridlock and nothing would be accomplished. I think one Clinton era was enough for most Americans, even for people like me who supported Clinton. We do not want deja vu all over again.
Posted by: CaptainVideo | January 23, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
I’m glad Obama is confronting both Hillary and Bill Clinton. They’re not the know-it-all in American democracy as they would like to think they are. They feel the White House belongs to them solely. According to them, its their right and legacy, and know one will take it from them. Billary will lied, steal, play slime, hardball politics as they ususal do, to get back in the White House.
I will credit them for trying every tactic possible to show Hillary as a likable candidate, soft, gentle candidate…Oh yea, those misty-eyed in NH when faced the possibility of defeat!
The only way they know how to play the game is use divide and conquer politics,or status quo politics. They play slimy, negative and dirty tactics when they compete in an above the fray politics such as Obama’s campaign.
Now they are exposed for all their negative politics, including Bill Clinton for acting like a personal “pitt bull” instead of a former President, or was he ever the stateman.
Obama now need to refocus on what has brought him a win in Iowa that sent the Clinton reevaulating their campaign.
I just hope the American people make the right choice and fight the Clintons for their negative, slimy campaign tactics.
Posted by: speakkup | January 23, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
“I HOPE ALL WOMEN WILL VOTE FOR HER AND BE PART OF THE HISTORY TO ELECT THE FRIST WOMAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATE OF AMERICA!!! God Bless America!!
Many women who are not mainstream Democrats dislike and distrust Hillary and will not vote for her.
Posted by: CaptainVideo | January 23, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
Listen up Hillary people ,
if we are talking about qualifications as far as YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN ALL AREAS, having done the most, well he–, then let us be fair. The most qualified is JOHN MCCAIN.
Now, are you all voting for him over her? What? I didn’t hear you? I will vote for him; I will especially vote for him if she is the nominee! She is a classless monkey and I’m NOT voting for some classless gutter trash monkey. At least that’s what I saw last night. Speaking of monkey’s where is Bill these days? Oh, I forgot, NC lying like always regarding something….
This is what you get when you tick off half the electorate that might would have voted for you! Good going Hillary, Bill and all her supporters (including ABC News)!
Barack we’re here for you. Edwards, we’re not mad at you. We know you’re only surviving so you’re still good with us. In fact, we would still be fine if you were too win this! But Hillary, you are dead to us.
Posted by: concerned voter | January 23, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
It must be very difficult for Obama when a former, popular president takes such a partisan role. It also allows Hillary to stay above the fray as her husband throws barbs at Obama. I think Obama should try to remain above this bickering as the Clintons are associated with this sort of politics. If Obama can win a primary or two soon, he will again find his stride.
Posted by: Marvin Meadors | January 23, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
It must be very difficult for Obama when a former, popular president takes such a partisan role. It also allows Hillary to stay above the fray as her husband throws barbs at Obama. I think Obama should try to remain above this bickering as the Clintons are associated with this sort of politics. If Obama can win a primary or two soon, he will again find his stride.
Posted by: Marvin Meadors | January 23, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
Posted by: speakkup,
Yeah, you are right it is about time he stepped up. However, he can’t confront her fully or he risks looking like a bully. No, that will be a job he will have for the Repubs and boy will they cream her. Of course I can’t wait to see it! No, what would be better is if he could get Bill in front of him. Bill is quick to anger and man that would play across all the networks. It would be a fantastic event….but that will never happen.
Posted by: CaptainVideo,
I was actually supporting Hillary at first. However, her tactics early on caused me to pull my support for her. I’m not one of those people that will turn a blind eye to anything. I would like there to be a woman president. I think there will be one someday in my lifetime, so I am willing to pass on Hillary.
I don’t know why other women have pulled their support or why some never had support for her, I just know she is not anyone that I would ever support, not anymore.
I am glad I discovered the real truth behind who she is and her husband(thanks guys). I would be mad as heck if I voted for someone such as Hillary….My convictions are more important to me than Hillary or my ovaries.
Posted by: Tx for an honorable prez | January 23, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am
This is a nonstory. It was a taunting question, and his response was appropriate.
The character assasination, and guilt- by-association of the refco stuff an example of Clinton-style politics of personal destruction. As a lawyer, you represent some good people and some bad people but mostly you represent people who are both. Holding Obama accountable for what a third-party did — whether or not it was known to Obama — is absurd. If I was held accountable for all the acts of my clients who have paid my salary over the years, I would probably get the death penalty.
And, really, for the good of this forum someone should delete the book-length, poorly reasoned diatribes, such as the one by Lou above. They add nothing and are a pain to scroll past.
Posted by: John D. | January 23, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
Has anyone heard reporters like on MSNBC etc. claim that Obama has a “built in advantage” in South Carolina because of the large number of African Americans. Yet nobody says that Hillary has a “built-in advantage” in the other 49 states. The repeated claim that Barcak has an advantage and the suggestion that it is not an even playing field is outrageous. Yet the mainstream media gets away with it.
Posted by: kevin | January 23, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
THAT is what you term “testy”?! I thought he’d actually look ticked or irritated, not mildly exasperated! Nice work, news team — betting that no one will actually look at the video and larding the content with implications that he flew off the handle. Good lord.
Posted by: grace | January 23, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
Okay so Obama had some dealings with a shady guy. But still, after college, he went to work as a community organizer and after college was a civil rights atty working on housing for the poor.
Billary pardoned Marc Rich, took $100,000 from Denise Rich. Last fall Billary accepted donations from three other crooks that Bill pardoned. In 2005, her campaign treasurer was indicted for fraudulent statements (just google hillary clinton campaign finance)
Obama voted against Rezko’s interests in Chicago even after taking money from him.
Obama is the best hope for America.
Posted by: erizin | January 23, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
To whoever wrote this below, you have mischarecterized what Obama takes issue with. Both Clintons said that Obama stated that he “liked” Reagan’s ideas. But Obama never said that and the Clintons know it and have known it but continue to lie about it. Obama clearly siad that Reagan’s ideas were more dramatic and he was able to tranform the country by gaining lots of support from the other party. Anyone who can’t tell the difference between admiration for political ability and the substantive ideas deserves to have Hillary or maybe worse, a Republican , as president. Also, Hillary in fact praised Reagan for personal qualities in Brokaw’s book.
“Obama keeps referring to Bill Clinton’s condemnation of his admiration for the Reagan administration and his claim that the Republican party is the party of ideas as spreading false facts (being mistruthful about his comments, if you will). However, John Edwards also reacted the same way to Obama’s comments. Is John Edwards also spreading untrue remarks about Obama??”
Posted by: kevin | January 23, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
Huh?
Obama did not “fire back angrily.” He said it with a smile, followed with “You’re better than that.”
ABC, stop wasting my time. This is pathetic.
Posted by: anon | January 23, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
Sociopath?
Is Bill Clinton a sociopath? Is Hillary? Both? Decide for yourself… here’s the summary of such behavior… how many can you count?
-Glibness and Superficial Charm
-Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible.
-They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used.
-They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
-Grandiose Sense of Self
-Feels entitled to certain things as “their right.”
-Pathological Lying
-Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis.
-Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities.
-Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
-Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core.
-Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities.
-Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims.
-The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
-Shallow Emotions
-When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive.
-Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person.
-Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity common.
-Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
-Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
-”Gets by” by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to women
-Irresponsibility/Unreliability
-Not concerned about wrecking others’ lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
-Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
-Exploits others effectively.
-Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
Posted by: Gorgon '08 | January 23, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
So Bill Clinton lies about Obama. Obama confronts Hillary and she says ” I never said that, that was my husband” Well, doesn’t her husband campaign for her? Why is it when others have said lies about Obama they were made to apologize, and Hillary denounced publicly the derogatory statements that were made about Obama. What the difference now, Is the ex-president somehow exempt from these practices? Why, was she not held accountable for not distancing herself from this rhetoric? Instead she used the phrase “republican” as opposed to Regan. And made the same statement as her husband. Whats the difference? NOTHING!!! But as usual the lame Hillary lover, Blitzer is to busy remembering his repeated promises he made Hillary to let her respond. Not once did I hear him promise her response time, in this debate, yet every time there was a altercation, she got first dibs. Blitzer is a joke!!!!
Posted by: Cindy | January 23, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
Other Related Qualities of a Sociopath… sorry Bill, but you clearly really need professional help…
-Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
-Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
-Authoritarian
-Secretive
-Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
-Conventional appearance
-Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
-Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim’s life
-Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim’s affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
-Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
-Incapable of real human attachment to another
-Unable to feel remorse or guilt
-Extreme narcissism and grandiose
-May state readily that their goal is to rule the world
(The above traits are based on the psychopathy checklists of H. Cleckley and R. Hare.)
Posted by: Gorgon '08 | January 23, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
Umm . . .
Did you actually watch the video? He isn’t testy at all. Actually, he seemed to keep his cool dispite the circumstances and promised that he would talk to him about it in the future.
Maybe I am blind, but after watching the video, I don’t really know what the fuss is about.
BTW, the video shows a completely different story than your written version.
Posted by: Lance | January 23, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
Umm . . .
Did you actually watch the video? He isn’t testy at all. Actually, he seemed to keep his cool dispite the circumstances and promised that he would talk to him about it in the future.
Maybe I am blind, but after watching the video, I don’t really know what the fuss is about.
BTW, the video shows a completely different story than your written version.
Posted by: Lance | January 23, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
The absolute ugliness and bald-faced racism of a number of the Hillary supporters on this blog are shocking. It is one thing to believe in your candidate and something entirely different to spew narrowminded, hateful vitriol against your candidate’s opponents. You are saying more about yourself than you are revealing anything useful about Hillary. Do all of us a favor and crawl back into your holes…
Posted by: dee | January 23, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
Well I wasn’t going to vote for Hillary in the primary because she has nothing going for her except the Clinton name.
But the only alternative seems to be Obama and I won’t vote for him because his hard-line supporters seem to be worse than the slime machine of the Republican party. Wingnuts are an abomination whether they are right-wing or left-wing.
Posted by: jamie | January 23, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am
I watched but saw nothing I could describe as testy at all. Obama’s demeanor was controlled and not unpleasant at all. I do not understand the headline to this. Obama clearly was asking for an opportunity to speak to the reporter with the aim to come to an understanding on some issues. And I think if and when they speak there will be an understanding. Obama is as reasonable as a person can be. The media really needs to chill.
Posted by: JS | January 23, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
I am stunned that the network of Peter Jennings, Ted Koppel and Charlie Gibson, three of the great journalists of our time, would do such a classless story.
You’re reporting in NO WAY depicts the video I just saw.
Posted by: Wayne | January 23, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
Looks like we are going to have another general election like 2000. God help us when the GOP whackos take the White House again because we cannibalize each other during the primaries.
Posted by: jamie | January 23, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
This is going to split the party. We all will suffer.
Posted by: two | January 23, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am
Hey Obama, if you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen!
LOL…In reality, Obama delivered a lot of insults toward Hillary’s campaign (as did Mrs. Obama) immediately after the Iowa Caucus, including comments during their speeches like, “Hillary’s campaign has become depressing because of the Iowa loss, etc.” and, “She represent the status quo.” Wow! Now that Obama has tasted some defeat of his own, he and his wife are showing their true colors. Looks like Hillary gets the last laugh after all.
Posted by: Patricia | January 23, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am
I am so turned off by the Clintons’ attacks on Sen. Obama> Oboviously the so called liberal media loves it. I am a strong Dennis Kucinich supporter. Sen Edwards was my second choice and Obama my third choice. If Clinton becomes the nominee of the Democratic party I will not vote for her mainly because of the despicable actions of her her husband. Although I detest John McCain’s ideas I would rather see him elected President because he is a more decent person than the unprincipled Clintons who must win at all costs.
Posted by: nk007 | January 23, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am
I saw the actual video of this on another site and Barack Obama was in NO WAY angry! Why do you have to SPIN everything??? Why not just tell the truth!? There was not an ounce of anger coming from this man at all. Give me a break!
Posted by: Shelly | January 23, 2008, 3:34 am 3:34 am
Brendan I’m not half as embarresed about the Clinton’s& what they have been thru as i am about George Bush & the mess he has made of this country, as for obama he thought he was the cock of the walk when he won Iowa . Thank goodness NH & NV proved him wrong.I’ll put my bets on Bill Clinton over Obama any day The Clinton’s have him running scared as he knows she is going to win. He is washed up.
Posted by: mo | January 23, 2008, 3:43 am 3:43 am
People! There is no playbook for this kind of situation! We have never had the wife of a former President run for the office before, how can you say that Bill shouldn’t campaign for his wife? You think George Bush wouldn’t act the same if Laura was running (God forbid!)
For those going on about Clintons being liars: what’s the bigger deal, lying about fooling around with a young starry-eyed chick (men do this every day!), or George Bush and his administration lying about Iraq and being responsible for our country going down the tubes economically and internationally and our your men and women dying?
Democrats!! Focus on what is important! Get out the Bushes!! No more Republicans! Reaganomics (Bush is Reagan Chapter 2) has destroyed our country, we have to fix it! And all you spewing this garbage about not voting for Hillary if she becomes the nominee, get a grip! You want 4 more years of Republicans and their destruction? Unite behind the nominee, whoever it is, for our country’s sake! didn’t we lose enough money today on the stock market?
BTW, if Barack is so smart, how could he babble on about Reagan and the Republicans during Democratic primaries? This is a red flag for Democrats, and the middle class and the unions and the poor and the homeless, do I need to continue? That just offends me personally. If you want to get Republicans to join your cause, Barack, save that saccharine for the National election. As a Democrat, I am turned off by his Professorship. He needs to win me back.
Posted by: DeeDee | January 23, 2008, 4:09 am 4:09 am
Bill Clinton is soooooooo yesterday, so 20th C. He thinks he’s relevant. He’s not.
Let him talk all over S.C. Let him think he makes a difference. He doesn’t.
Anyone who is Black and confused by Bill Clinton: take a deep breath and ask anyone standing around you.
Posted by: mrw | January 23, 2008, 4:23 am 4:23 am
I am a left-of-center independent leaning democrat and I will never vote for Hillary Clinton – period – no way. I won’t, and many of my family members, who liked Bill won’t. I like Obama, Edwards and Kucinich. If Clinton is the nominee, I will vote 3rd party or write in my candidate of choice and advise others to do the same. We need HUGE change in this country and cannot tolerate another Clinton in the White House. I thought Clinton’s attacks on Obama were in the gutter at the last debate and booed right along with the crowd as I watched. What she and her husband have demonstrated is the kind of Rovian politics that have done so much damage to our country over the last seven years. I also blame Bill Clinton for giving us a GWB presidency when Gore was the president we needed and deserved. I am really disgusted with politics as usual and hope people begin waking up.
Posted by: gel | January 23, 2008, 4:42 am 4:42 am
I liked one of the first comments that Bill and Hillary are acting like good cop/bad cop; it seems right. And it is like being blind in a game of gotcha. You can’t tell where they are coming from — now — and now, etc. It is a crazy-making situation. Not being able to confront Hillary on her husband’s rude comments (‘I am here; I didn’t make those comments’) is like being asked if you have stopped beating your wife. After reading this article I began to think about what it is like to be black and to FEEL and KNOW you are being dissed, but others can’t see it. (‘Are YOU letting Bill get into your head?’ As if Bill Clinton were not making killing attacks, all the more powerful coming from a former president, and in public) I always think of the title of a lecture the linguist Hayakawa gave in L.A. in about 1959; it was called: ‘How to Be Sane Though Negro’. The title itself expresses what it must be like to not be able to confront shady, shadowy attacks like this NYTimes reporter’s and Clinton’s.
Posted by: voicer | January 23, 2008, 4:59 am 4:59 am
Mrs. Clinton is in a virtual tie with Obama in New York City of all places.
If she was so popular there, how come it’s nearly a dead heat in the city ?
As a resident of NYC, I am proud to say that I never voted for her, and never will.
Posted by: Jane | January 23, 2008, 5:06 am 5:06 am
Good luck to all of us. Splitting the Democratic Party is not the half. There will not be that many Republicans that will sit out the election if Hillary is the winner ofr the Democratics.
Also, it Hillary have and has had a horrilbe relationship with the media for decades then I shutter to think what will happen in the general election. She will face the medi and the Republicans, adn if you all don’t think this is going to happen than this is the biggest fairy tale yet.
You know you can’t always go back. These are differnt times, and you will not be albe to relive the Clinton’s era of the 1990s. With the amount of money owed for this war, housing markets, jobs being shipped to other countries, and the job market is not producing jobs that pays a decent wage, college students graduating with high debt, tell me what is going to happen.
Ready from one day. Just like the House that was suppose to do some much for the Country. Tell me what have they don’t? Who are you kidding?
This Congress is worse than the President, and the rating is about the same. This came with big plans and what have they done? I think they said from day one, they will end the war and bring the troops on. Yet, Bush has been able to get everything he wanted. Who voted for the increases? Why have they not override Bush’s vetos? And you think this is not going to pay out in the general election. Please.
All need to stop the bricking, and look at the facts.
Oh!! by the way I am not planning on burining or robbing anyone.. You see, I am able to work and I pay taxes just like you. Please don’t think all Blacks are poor. This is one of the reason I am telling Blacks it is time to leave the Democratic Party. They think you all are poor and on welfare. Well, it is time for them to find out that our parents did any excellent job of stressing education and we listen.
One who will not vote for Hillary in November, and will be encouraging other Blacks to do the same. You see, don’t believe everythign you read about us. We are becoing more Independent, get it.
Posted by: Marrion777 | January 23, 2008, 5:06 am 5:06 am
One more thing: I heard this week about an exercise facilitated by a woman trainer who used to be a third-grade teacher. She held this exercise with her students and nowadays with corporations and the military. She divides the large group into ‘blue-eyed and brown-eyed people’ (or other irrelevant characteristics other than race) and treats one half of the group for a day as second-class citizens, upping the ‘good’ people and putting down the second-class people. The next day she switches it and the good ones become the lesser ones and vice versa. While they are the lesser people for a day, treated by being left out of things, sent to the rear of the line, forgotten when it comes to handing out praise or rewards, told they are not up to the rest of the class, can’t do things properly, are getting mad for nothing therefore are too emotional, are stupid, etc. — these people begin to become depressed, angry, complain, protest, and finally some become violent. Obama undoubtedly gets some of this treatment. For someone (NYTimes reporter) to blame him (‘Are you letting Bill Clinton get into your head?’ or write something which — untrue — says, ‘he almost lost his temper’) or in the case of the writer of this article inferring that he got angry for nothing is crazy-making, lowdown and fits within the experience of racism. // To criticize and expose Obama’s votes on bills or to criticize him for vagueness or not showing up or his poor health plan is one thing. But to blame him for being lied about and attacked unfairly and then to pile on for his getting mad about it is not fair to say the least.
Posted by: Voicer | January 23, 2008, 5:17 am 5:17 am
I watched the video. Obama smiled away at first as he responded to the “reporter”, which Zeleny is not acting like by refusing an off-the-record interview. Zeleny got his answer to his juvenile question, a much more reasoned answer than he wanted. No real reporter would refuse an interview with Obama. He’s probably afraid he’ll like Obama as much as so many editorial boards have after extended interviews with him, on the record and off. That would make his Obama-bashing assignment more difficult than it already is. Poor guy can’t find a scandal worth the bytes. I haven’t been impressed with NYT coverage in general in this election. What, is Disney planning to buy the NYT, too?
Posted by: Inaru | January 23, 2008, 5:54 am 5:54 am
The Clintons and their Ugly Destruction Politics are enaged in doing the same thing to Mitt Romney via the Clinton’s help-mate, John McCain, as they are to Obama. Though I can never vote for any Democrat (strong political differences), Obama has earned my respect for attempting to confront the Clinton Attack Politics (though he needs to do so more earnestly, in my view — he should not even remotely tolerate the ugly Clinton politics). My thanks, too, to Obama for making this election among Democrats far more lively and interesting even to a non-aligned voter. Of special note from their last debate appearance was that when asked about the Bill Clinton campaign complications in Hillary’s alleged candidacy, Hillary rambled on into near psychological mumbo jumbo and never did arrive at any reasonable or coherent answer to that problem. Does anyone even know what she was saying? Seems to me she didn’t, either.
Posted by: Tangerine | January 23, 2008, 6:05 am 6:05 am
I’m alway very curious about any off the cuff video or exchanges with Obama to see how things are happening behind the scenes. I expected to see something of substance here but it was a complete waste of time. This is a non-story and someone wasted the time encoding the video for posting and the keystrokes for this entry.
Maybe I can save someone else here some time. There’s nothing to see here, move along.
Posted by: Rick | January 23, 2008, 7:32 am 7:32 am
And everyone thinks Obama is the choice. How in the world is he going to handle world events. How would he react to the MSM when they start flaming and slurring him the way they do Hillary Clinton. He has had an easy path so far. The corporate republican MSM want him as the candidate. That would give the republicans a landslide in November. And he thinks people other than they bunch of jumping screaming teeny boppers want him for president.
I suppose the screaming will settle down now, since American Idol is back on.
Posted by: Catcat | January 23, 2008, 7:59 am 7:59 am
The Clintons aren’t in Obama’s head. Obama is in the Clinton’s heads. He turned the entire audience to his favor in less than half an hour and brought out the old-fashioned petulant ice-queen Hillary. Every shot at Hillary was met with resounding applause and Hillary’s dishonesty was met with overpowering boos.
Funny how Hillary went from a 20 point lead to a 20 point deficit in South Carolina in LESS THAN ONE MONTH.
Now it’s a choice between the heavily scripted and repetitive John “personal, battle of my life” Edwards, the charming, bullet-proof, endearing young talent Barack “Hope” Obama, and the ruler-swinging, authoritarian, fact-challenged Hillary “GRRRRR” Clinton.
Hillary realizes she can’t beat Obama on the facts, so she has her husband expend his good faith lying. Once that is tapped, the entire machines is going to rebound right back in her face and she’s going down for the count.
Posted by: Ed | January 23, 2008, 8:00 am 8:00 am
Anyone who viewed the video has a completely different take on what happened at the Obama event than what is reported. Looks to me like ABC is trying to force the country to vote for the Clintons by biased reporting…sounds more like a paid political announcement than an unbiased political article. Just as Bill Clinton veils his words to make a lie sound like the truth, there are many media idiots trying to impose themselves as “experts” who make such rash stupid statements, it’s totally laughable. Really, America, we’re better than this.
Posted by: Proud American | January 23, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am
The person who said HRC and Barack Hussein Obama are in a tie in NYC is flat out lying, just like Obama always does. He was caught again in a lie on NBC this morning. Good thing they called him out on it and he turned red.
All the polls show NYC is creaming Barack. Get over it and no amount of lies (paid lies) will stop that.
She will win CA too.
Posted by: jkas | January 23, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am
Hey Jkas:
The Clintons are creaming Barack in NY? Last I looked she had a 10 point lead which is nothing considering that NY is her state. In my neighborhood in a suburb of NY most people I know are NOT voting for her. Believe me, she’s not that popular in NY either.
Posted by: Rooster | January 23, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am
Obama is TRYING to respect Bill Clinton as a former President of the United States. Bill realizes this and using it to his advantage.
However, Obama also KNOWS that he cannot ALLOW his opponent to define who he is. KNOWING that Bill is not his opponent—–should tell AMERICA the WEAKNESS of the Clintons if BILL IS NEEDED FOR DISTORTION to gain momentum. If the race was—Rodham vs Obama, the title of this article would NOT be an issue.
Bush’s father did not NEED to campaign for him. Nor did he feel that his son’s platform was SO WEAK that it was necessary to use his “power” to boost his son.
Getting in Obama’s Head? No. It’s called respect. And respect will remain, BUT with decency in informing the AMERICAN people of his record.
Posted by: Jennifer | January 23, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am
Every now and then you see a little edge to Sen Obama’s attitude. He talks about hope and all that but I don’t think that he is used to being critized. When I hear him speak, it reminds me of the revivals of the southern Baptists. A lot of words and “feel good” moments but no commitment behind it, just pass the collection plate. He is not ready for the Republican attack machine. Bill Clinton is doing exactly what he should, supporting his wife and policies that have worked before. We need change alright, but the changes we need are from Bush. The Clintons left office with a balanced budget. Imaginwe if it hadn’t been squandered. People chose the more likeable candidate in 2000 and 2004 supposedly, how’d that work out for them? Give me a fighter any day. Not a whiner.
Posted by: glennmcgahee | January 23, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am
Obama is a crybaby who has been swinging at HRC for 6 or more months. Now he is being asked to substantiate his record and he is crying fowl.
The only problem with Bill is has focused the electorate on issues vs. Idol worship
Posted by: SilerMarriott | January 23, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
Clearly, Bill Clinton’s strategy is working.. all of your are falling for it. By continuing to talk about this, and read stories in the media about it.. it keeps it on the front page. And Obama continues (fair or not) to look angry. His supporters even look angrier, and it appears they are doing the dividing. Not good. Obama needs to start talking in specifics, something he has yet to do very well… if he can’t do that, the less friendly states of Super Tuesday will finish him. JMHO
Posted by: God Help Us All | January 23, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
This will not change any of these commentators mind here on this post, but let’s start with the question asked, “Is Bill Clinton getting in your head?” First this a leading question, which just by answering it means that he has thought about Bill and and therefore it does concern him. Often reporters ask these type of questions but let’s be fair, it is a leading question. No reporters are going up to Mrs. Clinton and asking her, “Is Bill running for co-president?” or going up to Huckabee and asking him, “Are their racist in yor family?(because of his comments about the confederate flag)” or John McCain, “You say you straight talk, but how do feel about taking two sides of an arguement, is this really straight talk” or Romney, “Did you rent porn in the Hotels you were running back Salt Lake?” or Guiliani, “Do you have ties to the mob?” or Edwards, “Aren’t you really a dispicable trial lawyer?” Come on people, we all hate what Bush has done to this country, we are divided! We all beleive in change, so let’s make sure we elect someone who can change the momentum in this country from favoring the top 5% and start thinking about how to take care of each and every american because that is our patriotic duty! Does that mean that we will all agree, hell no discourse is neecessary in free country!
And this is the second non-story hat ABC has pushed in this direction in two days. I guess the news budget is tight in for profit business which cares about the short term exploitation of current events rather than thoughtful investigative analysis!
Gotta go, stay solid!
Posted by: josh-quasimoto | January 23, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
Unfortunately, the American public is proving they aren’t very smart falling for crap like this. Obama is exactly what this country needs to lead us away from the petty divisive politics of the past and voters are going to reject the very thing they seem to be clamoring for.
I’m ashamed of our country. Obama, you are too good for us.
Posted by: CitizenDick | January 23, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
It’s to bad for Obama. The Clinton’s are the masters of corruption and will do or say anything to win. It’s not about doing good for the Country. It’s about their own power and glory. I’m a Democart and would love to see a women my age as President. But not Hillary.
If she’s in I will vote Republican or I will sit it out. Clinton’s are no different then the Bush’s just smarter.
Posted by: barbara | January 23, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Why is ABC news pushing the latest BILLARY talking point?
Heh, the reporter got angry at Obama because Obama didn’t appreciate the genius of his snappy little question!
Vengeance?
Posted by: Bob | January 23, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
I’m an undecided voter…so doing a lot of reading and listening. Jeff…and ABC…this wasn’t quality reporting. Jeff tried to make news rather than report it. Watching the video, as I did, it was clear Jeff ‘punched up’ the story by his commentary. This is NOT Fox News, thank God, but you’d better remember that!
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Posted by: daulan | January 23, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
A vapid, meaningless question by Zeleny. A meaningless piece of fluff by Sunlen Miller. More worthless “democratic election as sporting event” coverage by ABC.
Wouldn’t it be great if there were actual journalists covering the election?
And no, I am not an Obama supporter. I simply an am American wondering why our national news media put out such empty crap.
Posted by: Casual Observer | January 23, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Ed Rendell just endorsed Hillary. This is huge. Those that jumped on the Barack band wagon too early are sweating in Washington now.
OBAMA NEVER LIES. This guy is arrogant and pompous.
Posted by: frankie | January 23, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
I hate the bickering. DEAL WITH THE ISSUES! I want my next pres to be al a carte. A little Obama, a little Hilliary, a bit of Richardson, a dash of Dodd and mix well while adding gobs of Edwards!
Posted by: Clayton | January 23, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
well, no shortage of short-sighted, ignorant folks around here! do any of y’all even know any of the positions the candidates advocate? do you know that Clinton is planning to ditch net neutrality, remove Howard Dean from the DNC? why why why would people want to put the country through watching Hillary Clinton lose what should be a no-lose situation? everyone’s convinced that the Clintons can handle Republican attacks. unfortunately, the truth is these attacks nearly always work on the Clintons, and they are vulnerable to them uniquely in relation to Obama. Clinton fatigue throughout the country is much stronger than people who follow politics closely realize.
Posted by: onceler | January 23, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Look at the interchange with the ABC reporter. What anger? What testiness? Looks like an incoherent reporter’s question morphed into the Barack the angry balck man narrative. Got to love the MSM. You guys did such a great job focussing on reality in the last several elections. Hooray for you. You’re like those investment bankers that get bonuses and stock options no matter how much they screw up. ABC news – another illusration of the dumbed down American elite.
Posted by: Jake | January 23, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
In the video Barack does not appear much angry. He just answers the question and goes about his business.
Posted by: James | January 23, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
I don’t know about barking at parked cars and so on, but I am just getting to “know” Obama and now Mom and Dad are bickering like babies and making me feel nervous and insecure. I am north of 60! John Edwards, John Edwards!
Posted by: Star | January 23, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
Do you Obama supports think that voting records or the lach thereof even matters. Everytime Hillary questions BO about his record he retorts “you see this is just the type of politics that America is sick and tired of”. Ok that’s not responding to the question, which BO is very skilled at doing.
Also, that Rezko situation is very real. Just take a little time a read what the Chicago Tribune has reported on Obama’s relationship with this indicted slumlord. You won’t find people like Russert and Matthews discussing it b/c it clearly seems like Obama was on the take from Rezko.
The Baltimore Sun has and article about Obama and Rezko today. So everyone take a chill pill and read about the guy you know nothing about.
Posted by: frankie | January 23, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Are you people out of your minds? There’s nothing aggressive about Obama’s response. It’s like they say: Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer. You’re hyping a non-issue. I think ABC is getting aggressive because they know the blogosphere is doing a better journalism then they are.
Posted by: ivoryox | January 23, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
This is classic Karl Rove tactics. I don’t like it at all but maybe that will be the only way to beat the republicons in the general. I’m sure they’ll be pulling the same stunts. At least Barack will be used to it by then.
Posted by: Richard | January 23, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
you call that ‘testy’?? did you grow up in a monastery?
Posted by: lizzy | January 23, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Is ABC campaigning for the Clintons? Aside from the Clintons’ talking points and strategy, what warrants this reaction and article? The video certainly doesn’t.
Posted by: Eddie | January 23, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Where did this story come from? The video reveals that the reporting is simply inaccurate.
We deserve better ABC.
Posted by: John | January 23, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
It is incredibly sad to have to counter a blatantly false story on ABC News’ website with a link to Fox news, but this video footage of Senator Obama’s exchange with NYT reporter Jeff Zeleny tells an entirely different story than that portrayed in your story above.
Posted by: Ross H. | January 23, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
From Horse’s Mouth: ABC news lied in the story about Bill supposed to be getting to Obama.
How much are the Clinton’s paying the media for this kind of garbage and false stories, ABC??
Posted by: vwcat | January 23, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
quit mischaracterizing the slightest things for the sake of a story, please. he didn’t “angrily shoot back” anything. if you people were less set on “narratives” and turning everything into a fistfight, maybe we’d have some substantive debate on the issues. we don’t need your spin and coloring and you can’t invent the story instead of letting it tell itself.
Posted by: crucial_aspect | January 23, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
Hey, Frankie, try reading Washington Post’s fact check.
Seems your Hillary gets a couple of pinochios for LYING in regards to the Rezko thing. the Clintons are paying the media to push it in order to smear Obama.
Posted by: vwcat | January 23, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
After all the red-face, finger-wagging dreck from Bill Clinton and the loud arm-waving vein-busting nonsense from HRC, you call this a “testy” exchange?? You’ve got to be kidding me!! Senator Obama is totally cool and collected!!
Posted by: gp leigh | January 23, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
The Clintons have turned a significant primary season ripe with issues that truly concern the electorate into a tit-for-tat game.
My man Edwards appears to be on the short end of the stick. He just can’t win the way things stand right now. But neither Hillary nor Barack are adressing my concerns as an American citizen right now when they bicker back and forth.
The Clintons come off worse, because they are pushing and prodding like bullies the entire way.
Posted by: pkohan | January 23, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
ABC has horribly distorted this story.
The incident on the video is nothing
like it’s portrayed in this story. Shame on ABC.
Posted by: markg8 | January 23, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
wow, if that’s what you call angry, you must have the most polite, considerate workplace (and home) on earth.
Posted by: paul | January 23, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
What garbage this is. Is this ABC or Fox? I can’t tell the difference.
Posted by: Jeff | January 23, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
The video shows this story is misleading, if not completely and demonstrably false. If ABC only cares about form over substance, then at least describe the form accurately.
Posted by: pla | January 23, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
This story is a disgrace. If you look at the actual video, it totally misstates and over-embellishes what actually happened. ABC News should discipline the reporter responsible for this
Posted by: rog | January 23, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
Really lousy, tendentious journalism by ABC.
No reasonable person who watches that video will think that Obama “fired back angrily” and “confronted” the reporter, contrary to what the story says.
Posted by: T. A. | January 23, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
What kind of crap is this? “Testy exchange”? Sorry, I didn’t see/hear it in this clip.
Looks like some of the posters here also didn’t see what I didn’t see. I’m glad they’re not buying ABC’s tripe.
Posted by: PKD | January 23, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
I didn’t see anything angry or testy about what Obama said. He was working the crowd and talking to Zeleny with a smile on his face. Why does ABC need to mischaracterize the situation this way? The answer is sensationalism and conflict sells, doesn’t it?
Posted by: Linda | January 23, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
What a ridiculous, awful, incompetent story.
Posted by: ABC News = pathetic | January 23, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
I agree, the story does not match the video — the media is doing the Clinton’s dirty work for them. Who needs Bill??
Posted by: Keith | January 23, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
I have watched the video and Zelaney has completely mischaracterized Obama’s response, which was in no w way angry. You call this reporting?
Posted by: Martin Washburn | January 23, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
What in the world ABC news? Did you watch the exchange yourself before posting this article? What was “testy” about this:
TPM has the complete video coverage
Posted by: tee | January 23, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
Nice video. It proves that your description of this event isn’t even close to accurate. The idea that this was written by a journalist is laughable.
Posted by: martin x. | January 23, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Somebody wrote on this comment board that “we here in Illinois are not thrilled with him.”
the opposite is true! I don’t know one person here who is not proud and delighted at his record and accompishments.
He is a man of honor and integrity. a true patriot. God bless America from chicago!
Posted by: Cyndi | January 23, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
who the hell is Sunlen Miller? Is she a journalist? Why does she make up stories? And if she is going to make up a story, why be so un-original as to just ape the Clinton-is-driving-Barak-nuts meme that the Clinton campaign is peddling, when that clearly wasn’t what happened here? A testy exchange? Ridiculous. Terrible terrible reporting. ABC news sucks.
Posted by: djay | January 23, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
Obama’s Campaign has no substance what-so-ever. He has no clue how to approach the major issues we face today, Yet his campaign is all about “Change”.
What “Change”?
Let Obama, or any of his followers define what his “Change” amounts to because change is exactly what we need, but Real Change not just empty words.
We need leadership, something you don’t see in any of the front running presidential candidates.
Posted by: Tr0uBle | January 23, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
After watching the video in which Obama is grinning and saying “C’mon Jeff, you’re better than that” in a light-hearted manner, reading the ABC characterization that he “fired back angrily” in regards to that very same response is dispiriting.
More than that, it’s dishonest.
At most, his first gambit was pointed. The second two, characterized successively as “fired back angrily” and “confront[ing] Zeleny again,” were both clearly in a joking tone.
ABC reporters were admitting sheepishly that “it’s hard to stay objective about this guy” when he had momentum. But as soon as it starts to wane, a mostly playful exchange is described as a heated argument.
To read this shameful description almost makes Obama sound like he’s turning into (gasp) Bill Clinton!
Posted by: Nathan Yaffe | January 23, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
This is plainly irresponsible reporting. From the story, you’d never know that the exchange was civil, that Obama had a smile on his face the whole time, and that Obama was refusing the bait instead of taking it.
Posted by: Dave Simon | January 23, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
What a bad mischaracterization on the part of Mr. Zeleny. After watching the video this article does not come even close to the event that occured. Mr. Zeleny’s editor needs to step in and clarify this subversion
Posted by: PeraM | January 23, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
Another stupid, and grossly misleading, story filed by ABC News. It clearly points to the influencing peddling efforts of main stream media (MSM) to frame and shape the political races in terms of “entertainment” and not factual reporting.
If the reader wants to make their own assessment of the interchange etween Obama and the reporter, then let them view the entire discussion. (Since ABC has not the courage to censor itself or report fact, please go to Talking Points Memo and see the entire thing for yourself.)
Meanwhile, ABC has surely demonstrated its ineptitude on many occaisons this past year for a “news” organization. I think the best medicine they can swallow is to have their charter from the FCC revoked because they violate it daily with biased reporting.
Posted by: Angry_American | January 23, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
what the hell is this? the video isn’t even close to matching this article’s description. have you gone from reporting the news to trying to generate it?
Posted by: homer | January 23, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
OK, I just watched the video, and I can’t help but notice but the reporter has completely misrepresented the exchange. At no point did Obama appear “testy.” Matter of fact, he was smiling when he made the supposedly “testy” comments.
How about some honest political coverage. For a change? Please?
Watch. The. Video. The characterizations by this reporter are clearly wrong.
Posted by: bobby | January 23, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
After watching the video of this incident, it seems that there is a disparity between what is seen and how it is characterized by the reporter. It brings mind that quote by Groucho Marx “Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?” Let there be Hope.
Posted by: George Stoddard | January 23, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Your bias is showing, ABC. Disgraceful.
Posted by: Hyde | January 23, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
fire Sunlen and your editors today! this story along with the writer somehow squirmed out from the warm thighs of the hillary campaign to make abc news? c’mon
Posted by: yowzers | January 23, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Shorter ABC – facts be damned, we’ve got a storyline and we’re going to use it!
Posted by: shingles | January 23, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
umm i dont know what video you were watching when you wrote that story, but the one you linked to must not have been it because the events dont match your description of them
Posted by: no one | January 23, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Typical media garbage, the whole point of their existence is to create the stories, not report them now…It’s quite sad…Regardless of if we like Hill and Bill, we all know that Bill is a convicted liar(whether we agree he should have been impeached is another story) so to act like Obama is making something up is just silly. I also like the top guy speaking for Illinois as well, polling has Obama killing Clinton there, so obviously you are the exception, not the rule…The media is running the Clinton playbook, reporting their lies as facts, than pitting groups against each other for the stories they can mold…People who attack Obama supporters amuse me, there is a reason that Obama supporters tend to be more educated and young(vested interest in the future) and Hill’s tend to be less educated, less informed and older…Hillary has no substance and no experience, anyone who can’t see past her pandering is silly
Posted by: Big papa pump | January 23, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
I’ve seen the video – talk about bad reporting. No wonder people don’t trust the mainstream media…
Posted by: itsmike | January 23, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
I read your article. I watched the video. Your use of the word “angry” stumped me. I never saw Barack look angry. Nor do I think it took him three times to answer the question. He was trying to shake hands, and this reporter was yelling questions, over the noise of the crowd. It’s amazing to me how the press, or certain reporters, twist things for headlines…shame on you ABC!! The very reason the media has lost credibility with the American people!
Bill Clinton is the democratic CARL ROVE, Hillary is the democratic GEORGE BUSH. Deny, deny, deny…I (technically) didn’t say it! Enough already, it SICKENS me as a democrat!
Posted by: con | January 23, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Please please point out when and how:
* Obama SHOT back
* Obama fired back ANGRILY
* Obama CONFRONTED Zeleny again
That’s all I ask.
~ Jess
Posted by: Jess | January 23, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
It’s clear that Obama’s strategy is to paint the Clintons as liars. I’ve seen the video of Obama’s comments re Reagan and Republicans being a party of ideas (sounds like a compliment), and die-hard Democrats have the rights to question them. He did not follow up during the interview that he disagreed with Reagan and Republican ideas. As such, what’s wrong with the Clintons attacking Obama on those comments? That’s raw politics and Obama needs to get used to it. It’s also interesting to see how Obama downplayed his involvement with the slumlord during the debate (just 5 hours of work for him). That guy and Obama are really tight and as widely reported Obama even called him for help when he bought a house after he became a US senator. Politics is dirty, and Obama is no less innocent than Hillary.
Posted by: IndependentVoice | January 23, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Here’s the problem for Obama. He’s the “wine” candidate, which frankly appeals to the elite grad school educated classes, and there just aren’t as many as Hillary is appealing to. She’s the “beer” candidate.
Posted by: Arlie83 | January 23, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
This article is a disgraceful misrepresentation of the events shown in the video. Obama is smiling the whole time. He handled himself very well. And the comment about it taking “three tries” to answer the question is a flat out lie. I am disgusted. This is further proof that modern journalism in America has no standards, none at all.
Posted by: Andrew | January 23, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
I am a an Edwards supporter but can see that ABC and Jeff Zeleny doing a hit job on Obama. The clip does not come close to backing up Zelney’s / ABC’s story line. The corporate media’s journalistic ethics are becoming just a joke.
Posted by: David Bradley | January 23, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
I think this is plain bad journalism. I would expect better from ABC. I watched the video and found Obama to be accomadating and friendly, while at the same time multi-tasking the business at hand (connecting with the VOTERS) and the bating of the press. Frankly, I think ABC should do better, in a country where not everyone can afford access to cable or cable news, network TV should hold itself to a better standard. I watch the nightly news with Charlie Gibson almost everynight, but if this is the type of reporting that passes muster at ABC, I’m going to look for another station.
Posted by: Jolly in NYC | January 23, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
This is not suprising. Obama can feel the momentum slipping from his fingers, and is whining like a little girl.
Posted by: McLaughlin1 | January 23, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
A total misrepresentation of what can plainly be seen on video. How irresponsible.
Posted by: Anthony | January 23, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
BAD JOURNALISM!
ABC’s reporting here is a joke. Their account of Obama’s reaction is totally fictional! He didn’t seem even slightly angry!
Posted by: This is Bad Journalism | January 23, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Incompetent, sensationalist reporting.
Too bad there’s a video of it. The video shows that the reporter twisted a non-event into the derogatory story he had in his head before the question was even asked.
Posted by: Kofu | January 23, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
How astonishingly irresponsible. Miller seems to have a problem with emotional intelligence. Maybe ABC is in the “tear down” Obama phase….
Posted by: helen | January 23, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Sorry, but the video betrays the falseness of this entire story – and I do mean STORY , as in an invented, manufactured tale unlike a factual report of reality.
Shame on ABC. Are there no adults there – a/k/a, “editors”?
Posted by: Jamesaust | January 23, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
The mainstream press is so scummy. Watch the video. Obama wasn’t angry. This reporter sounded like my older brother razzing me and Obama handled it with class, like he always does. ABC worships the establishment, just like the rest of them.
Posted by: John | January 23, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Where is Obama afraid of attacks? Afterall in this very SC debate, it was he Obama that started attacks. Why I hate we African Americans is that we are not objective on issues. Rather look for a way to advance Obama’a ideas we are wasting time on things that do
not matter or on things where our man is wrong. The more we make a lot silly comments here about clintons, the more we get the whites scared about giving power to the black man. Obama and John started the attack issue and is too bad and too late that it is hunting
the two of them. In all the debates except yesterday’s own, the only unifying thing between Obama and Edwards
is not the democratic party they both belong to but direct/indirect attacks on the Clintons; Status quo, war vote on Irag/Iran, dishonesty, unrealistic change, bad judgement etc. But the clintons seems to be more aticulate and smart than the two of them as they kept
their attacks for the right and proper time/place when and when it matters most and now the Obama’s and Edwards are angry calling it attacks. Previously when they had field days against clintons, theirs weren’t
attacks, they were just differences. My brothers lets for once show others that we can be intelligent.
Posted by: kingsley | January 23, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Characterizing Obama’s reaction as “testy” is tantamount to lying. It’s clear to anyone who sees the video (yet somehow eluded the reporter of this story).
ABC, do you need to make up stories to get attention? This deserves a retraction.
Posted by: Spencer | January 23, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
This is such a joke! ABC TOTALLY mischaracterizing what actually happened..and Clinton supporters applauding. Typical.
WATCH THE VIDEO. Obama is coolas a cucumber…no anger. He a SMILE on his face. People! Get a clue!
ABC..shame on you.
Posted by: James Duffy | January 23, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Horrible characterization of what transpired. ABC should rewrite this, maybe the person who wrote it didn’t see the video themselves. Horrible job, guys. I expect better from ABC News.
More to the point of the question…look what happened to Kerry when he let lies about his record go unchallenged. He was ridiculed for not responding. Nothing wrong with setting the record straight.
Posted by: dave | January 23, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
As has been written, this is really bad reporting. What are you guys trying to pull? “Fired back angrily”? Please do not blatantly lie!
Posted by: snowbird | January 23, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
It’s enlightening, while sad, to see fellow Dems spew negative talking points that were instigated by their candidate. It’s…so…Republican-like. Think for yourself and analyze the process rationally.
I thought there was a difference between the two Parties in who made up the majority of their base. I’m seeing that maybe we are mostly all just malleable putty in our “hero’s” hands.
Posted by: dave | January 23, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
LET ME JUST SAY that this video does NOT REPRESENT A TESTY EXCHANGE. PERIOD.
Obama seems calm and reasonable to me.
WHY IS THE MEDIA TRYING TO CREATE THIS IMAGE OF OBAMA?
Think for yourself AMERICA.
**
Posted by: Mark Greene | January 23, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Are you serious? Has anyone watched the video?
The media, in trying to create a storyline that will play well on an across-the-screen ticker is trying to pigeon-hole Barack. Instead of looking at evidence and developing a story, they have developed a story and are looking for evidence to prop it up! Disgusting! No wonder people are sick of MSM!
Posted by: Aaron | January 23, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
What kind of horrible reporting is this? All you have to do is watch the video to see how ABC has falsified the manner in which Obama responded to the jerk reporter. Open up a thesaurus and use the proper adjectives to the corresponding manner of speaking next time.
Posted by: TJ | January 23, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
If someone came up to me to ask me such a personal question I would have told him to go away…BHO doesnt have to answer a stupid question like that! Talk about giving away the goods! The Clintons and their minions are going to run what good feelings we had about them into the ground. They better stop exposing themselves as who the GOPers claimed they were or they will lose the “war” even if they win the battle.
America is NOT an oligarchy or a monarchy…Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton???? We need someone new because this thing just hasnt been working for us…
Posted by: Beka | January 23, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
If you watch the video, you’ll see that ABC completely mischaracterized the exchange between Obama and the reporter. Obama was completely under control, smiling, and conversational even as he disputed the reporter’s contention. The problem is that the media thinks it has to attack the pols (easy targets, right?) whenever there’s a dispute with the media. I am really disappointed in ABC on this. It was a non-story, start to finish. Meanwhile, Bill and Hillary are starting to look like the MacBeths.
Posted by: JGrant | January 23, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
If that is characterized as ‘firing back angrily,’ you need to fire that reporter. Because he has no backbone. I have more testy exchanges with my barber.
Posted by: John Lancaster | January 23, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Testy? Angry? WHAT? I watched that video 3 times and I saw no “testy exchange” what so ever. ABC is spinning again. Distorting the truth. Disgusting.
Posted by: Bob T | January 23, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
To say that Obama “confronts” anyone or “shoots back angrily” at any point is a misrepresentation of facts. Watch the video– he’s as cool as a cucumber.
Posted by: Rebecca | January 23, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
As shown by the video link, the reporter failed to accurately characterize Obama’s words. Was his misrepresentation intentional? I think his ego chimed in:
“Obama got ‘testy’ towards me!!!! That makes me a big important journalist! I don’t just report the news, I MAKE the news!!!”
Isn’t it fun how this guy can represent the words of others any way he wants, and can still claim to be ‘reporting’ facts?
Posted by: MM | January 23, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Boo to ABC. I read the story without the accompanying video. It gave me a distinct impression of events. I then saw the video. Completely different. It amounts to false reporting, sexing up the dossier. There are plenty of other blogs and news sites that won’t get as desperate as this. It cheapens the campaigns and insults your viewers. I for one will not frequent this site again, or watch any more of your new programming. Shameless, shameful.
Posted by: canadarm | January 23, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
ABC needs to correct this inaccurate story– have any ABC editors actually watched the video?
Posted by: Katharine | January 23, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Good to know that ABC has made the leap into tabloid version, and can no longer be trusted to present news in an evenhanded, disinterested manner.
The video doesn’t lie. Shame on ABC.
Posted by: Blake | January 23, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
After viewing the actual video, I can’t believe the misrepresentation of this so-called reporter. Obama was never anything but polite, even in the hectic situation he was in. I saw no testiness or bad temper. The reporter must have some kind of huge ax to grind, and he seems to sharpening it on Obama. What the heck is this reporter’s problem?
ABC should retract this whole nonsense.
Posted by: KNSato | January 23, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Just stop it, ABC Political Radar. You’re hurting America… I’m feeling testy after reading your overwrought characterization of the exchange.
Just stop. Why do people hate the media? Because you’re more interested in simplistic psychobabble like this crap than you were in digging into Bush’s case for war in Iraq. Shame on you.
Posted by: Matthew C | January 23, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Obama was clearly not happy at the question being put to him, but he doesn’t appear angry about it in the video. In fact, he treats it exactly as he treats other “sticky” questions: 1) he tries to deflect; 2)he tries to answer a question that has not been asked, and 3) he finally proposes to “speak off the record.” Usually he is allowed to do speak off the record upon request, and he is then free attack HRC and make assertations like, if the system is broken, why is experience within the broken system germane? This is exactly what he did in his interview in the San Francisco Chronicle and “journalists” darn near grovelled at his feet when he did so.
Obama never did say that the system is broken due to violently opposed splinter groups like rabid life-to-righters, second amendment nuts, neocons, etc. Apparently, in Barack-land, these issues will magically waft away once he enters office. Either that, or he plans of appeasing these splinter groups by criminalizing abortion, handing out assault weapons, and letting Wolfowitz bomb small countres at will. You see how ridiculous this scenario is? But you will get no details from Obama on how he will accomplish this harmony and change. IMO, It is deceptive and misleading for Obama to try to pretend that the requisite experience is not necessary in this situation.
Like it or not, HRC has been the compromise candidate for 7 years in the senate. She has made working to create policy with republicans a cornerstone of her senate career and she has been exceedingly successful at it.
And just a note — all you so-called democrats who are ready to vote republican if Hillary wins? With all due respect, you sound like all those Americans who were going to move to Canada if Bush wins a second term. If you’re going to do it, do it — that’s your right. Just give the rest of us a break from hearing it, ‘kay?
Posted by: Jane | January 23, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
This was abysmal reporting.
Shame on you, ABC.
At least you were stupid enough to post the video so we can see for ourselves how biased your reporter was.
Posted by: santamonicamr | January 24, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
It’s all been said above, but I find it funny that the network doesn’t even have a response to the criticism. You enable comments to get more traffic to your site, then seem to get rattled yourselves when called out on a sorry fabrication like this.
Posted by: tcg | January 24, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
I am not a supporter of any of the Democratic candidates, haven’t yet made up my mind.
I am however, not a supporter of the MSM which continues distorted, biased reporting on them. The unsubtle use of incorrect and biased words to describe the exchange is clearly belied by the video of the event.
“Obama shot back as he walked away” – he said over his shoulder, somewhat distractedly as he was doing other things would have been more appropriate.
“Obama fired back angrily, “Don’t try cheap stunts like that” This is the most laughable one as Obama was actually smiling and appeared to be joking with a reporter who was clearly trying to bait him.
Obama came back and confronted Zeleny again. “I will answer your question though off the record, would you like to talk off the record?” Obama asked. Zeleny refused to go off the record and then motioned toward the gaggle of TV cameras gathered around him.
In addition to completely overstating the fact that he simply circulated around the crowd and found hs way back to the reporter (You imply he marched back over and called him out) you left out the second part of Obama’s statement that it was hard to do so with all the reporters around indicating he actually knew he couldn’t do so and did not need the prodding of the reporter.
What a completely nonfactual, biased bit of spinning a story this was, completely lacking in journalistic integrity, a term that ABC News seems to be doing its best to turn into an OXYMORON.
Posted by: agentprovokatur | January 24, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am
Did anyone at ABC even watch the video? Truly unbelievable. You want to see what a politician getting angry at a reporter looks like, go no further than the CNN spot on Bill Clinton lecturing reporters on asking tough (albeit loaded) questions about the former President’s aggressive campaign tactics
Posted by: Peter V | January 24, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
Now ABC News goes from “questionable” to “unreliable” on the list of “News” agencies regarding the current political race. There are damn few reliable sources any more. What’s saddest is so many people are so lazy that they don’t check the “facts” that are spewed forth by the fifth estate…they just accept what they hear as “truth”. This nation deserves the crappy governments it gets so long as it stays complacent. Democracy, like Freedom, is not free. It takes work and a willingness to work to see beyond the distortions that always plauge politics.
Posted by: Michael | January 24, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
I join the chorus of people who find it unbelievable that the print version of this story characterizing Obama’s demeanor as angry and rattled, when the video clearly shows him responding in no such way. It is offensive because this story in its print form is being cited in many other places as evidence that Bill Clinton has gotten into Obama’s head. Nauseating.
Posted by: ming | January 26, 2008, 6:29 am 6:29 am
The Clintons really ARE getting in Obama’s head. He has NEVER faced a tough campaign, and he is naturally thin-skinned–not a recipe for a strong general election match-up. He has a sense of entitlement to be President that is completely undeserved. Gives a great speech, seems to represent generational change–but it’s otherwise all fluff and there’s little substantive difference between him, Clinton, and Edwards. He acts surprised and aggrieved and victimized because his opponents are–shockingly!!–trying to win. Politics is not tiddlywinks, Barack, which you would know if your previous opponents hadn’t self-destructed and let you waltz into office (an office you’re apparently too bored to stay in? or was it all just a prelude to a run for the WH after all? oh, my, my illusions are shattered.) Obama supporters need to get over their collective self-delusion. This is politics. there are no saints, only sinners.
Posted by: roger | January 26, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm