Obama, Clinton Split Bragging Rights

A few things:
1. this was a hillary win
2. the more interesting story is that hillary’s delegate lead is due to her superdelegates which is a product of inquisitional support and not voting of the people
3. hillary had more votes, not only for the reasons you mentioned but because she campaigned in the population rich area ; that should also be mentioned. that is the equivalent of one person campaigning in new york and California and the other person winning 5 other smaller states
i wish someone did a story on that…

This was a win for Barack. Delegates are what matters most right now.

Congrats to Barack on getting the most delegates. On to SC!

Electoral college? I wasn’t aware delegates to the Democratic Convention were members.

I understand the importance of celebrating the popular vote, but this is the primary process. The American public deserves to know which candidate won the most delegates. I’m sure the Clinton campaign would be making a big deal about it if the situation were reversed.

Yesterday everyone had OBAMA winning NEVADA….just like NH…..the voters rejected what the media and unions told them to do.A win is a win,so THANK YOU MICHIGAN…NEVADA AND LAST BUT CERTIANLY LEAST NEW HAMPSHIRE.The voters have spoken..LET THIER VOICES BE HEARD…Off to SC..WHERE OBAMA IS IN A MUST WIN SITUATION TO GET ANY WIND BACK BEFORE FEB 3.Trust he was sent three back to back blows and you can spin it any way you want….CLINTON WON.

Just remember this all Anti-Hillary people: if you hate her now, if you do not approve of her style of campaigning, if you feel she is the wrong choice for the party and the country, then you should still feel that way come November.
Voting is based on principle. Do not sanction her actions by forgiving her and voting for her. I don’t know how stupid the Clinton’s think people are. But, show them you are not sheep and you will not be EASILY MANIPULATED by their games.
So, come November, reject her then as you do now. Don’t buy into that coming together, time to unite, etc. stuff. She is obnoxious and extremely offensive, and you should show her what you think of people like her. Vote for her opponent – whomever that may be.
It will also be a slap in the face to her supporters too. That is actually a good thing for being so stupid….who in their right mind would vote for someone as divisive as Hillary and Bill? Someone with very little chance of winning the national election?
Regardless, stand by your principles and vote against her. Pass the word.

donald….standing by your principles is standing up for what you believe is best for your children; in the face of hatred, in the face of distortions, in the face of those who say you can’t, in the face of those who say you shouldn’t, in the face of arrogance, in the face of hypocrisy, in the face of bad polls, in the face of a media onslaught prematurely reporting your demise; standing by your principles involves voting with your conscience; standing by your child involves standing up for your country and all that makes it great and all that can make it great again; that is why we support Senator Clinton, that is why we believe, that is why we KNOW she is what is best for America right now…..because our principles, our country and especially our children deserve what we know is in their best interest; in this election year when we choose the next President of the United States, we know the best interests of our children would best be served by electing Hillary Clinton to the White House

It looks like democrats are not working together with a common goal of beating Republicans. If it goes on like this, am afraid Democrats will never touch the White House again. A strong house always needs a good foundation!

also, in defense of the delegate vote vs. the popular vote…you have to understand this:
just because the majority of the nevada population is around the vegas area, does not mean the people of vegas represents ALL of NEVADA!
the reason why obama won more delegates is due to his votes were more spreaded out across the state, especially in the rural areas whereas hillary mostly won at the larger population spots

I just want to say hang in there young people, we are still trying to take America back,especially for you; our future!. I just wish Americans would wake up and smell the coffee!I have never seen so many young voters get involved with the voting process before,and for once because they have something to fight for; A Change You Can Believe In! and not the Washington Status Quo! Obama 08!

Young people and men, get out and vote for Barack. Let’s roll.

working as a volunteer (with my family) on Senator Clinton’s campaign was a privilege. she won the caucus with women, men, youth, blacks, whites, latinos, native Americans, and more minorities.

It has nothing to do with Obama.
It has everything to do with the Clintons and the entire Vietnam ‘me’ generation. She is no different than Cheney, Bush, or the guy caught tapping toes in a bathroom stall. They have created an environment where it’s okay to make excuses, whine, etc.
I absolutely disagree with Obama’s policies–but I appreciate his honesty and integrity.
You get what you vote for–so people supporting Hillary better not complain if they get what they want.
I’d really love to see McCain and Obama as the candidates–at least then we can discuss issues without having a dirty campaign.

And finally there is a rocking speech that Hillary has given, though hoarse in the throat, but it really is a more direct speech. If anyone is interested it is here on abcnews.com. Hillary Gets Groove Back is the title, and this is the link.
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4161356
at least she is saying things that I have said and felt and that peole who live in my town are saying. She is speaking about situations and greed and tax rates and loss of jobs to overseas workers. Please give a listen. And then of course come back and tear her to bits. But know that if this is the direction she is going – democrats should in the end feel confident should she win. That crowd was large (listen to how ‘far back’ they sound) and it was rowdy.

When barack decided to run for president I was absolutely thrilled to be able to vote for someone and not have to hold my nose as I have done for the clinton machine in the past. As the democratic race tightens up and the fear that old hilldog may be the democratic nominee, I become slightly relieved that at least Mccain is doing well. He will more than likely be able to beat the clinton machine because he actually has a solid record of reaching across the isle which is what the middle in america wants now. Not righty or lefty extremists making a fight that really means nothing to the average american. I want washington to work again and clinton’s rhetoric of I can take on anything the republicans throw at me is not a statement to heal our division.

If you don’t want to vote for Hillary don’t talk about just don’t do it. Clinton holds the delegate lead 203 to Obama’s 148. What have you been reading. Obama got 13 and Hillary got 12 but Hillary has the lead on the total. I believe I have said it before that California, Texas, Nevada and Arizona would go to Hillary. South Carolina maybe not because of so many blacks living in the South both the polls have been wrong more than one time so we have to wait. I did not hear Obama congratulate Hillary on her win. Obama is running because he wants to make history as the first black president of America. That is not going to happen. So relax and have a drink.

Was watching the Sunday morning news shows for some kind of learning experience about how/why the press totally eclipsed John Edwards throughout 2007 to make him unviable.
(why I never saw him on CNN/FOX/MSNBC last year when he was tied with the other two in Iowa).
It suddenly came clear: Neither Hillary nor Obama can win the general election. As soon as they eliminate the third candidate, who can win the general election, the junk news stations will start all their stories with the suggestion about the inelectablility of the two rock stars.

Where is Obama with his people (black church) for support? The media outlets say that Obama refuses to comment on his lost to Hillary, talk with his supporters about coming into second, and talk with the media until he attend Church and rally on Monday for MLK. All of candidates at least talked with your supporters after the NV race. If Obama felt he won then why is he refuses to talk with his supporters and the media? He understands that the delegates are not important at this point of the game.

No surprise of voter fraud for Hillary. Low turnout too on the democratic front in the past few caucuses. Seems like Republicans may take the next election if democratic voters don’t show up.

as an afro american, I too would love to see a black person in the white house, however I’m more concerned about the need for effective change in how this country is managed.In the position this country is in now, we need to be focused on fixing these problems and not creating divirsive situations that will take our focus away from the issue’s at hand. One of the most damaging cards are yet to be played, will be how black is Senator Obama, will he be a black President, or a President that happen’s to be black. It will take at least 16 years to repair the damage that the Bush Administration has left in place. We that beleave this to be true, must look at this being one of the greatest opportunities to assure this, is to amagine a ticket that probably 80% of the country would back, the problem is can someone be humble enough to admit that one is stronger than the other, when it comes to getting the ball rolling.

one thing…
all of you “democrats” who say they wont vote for hillary if she gets the nomination…please do the rest of us real democrats a favor….
please change your voting registration to republican as soon as possible and leave it that way . talk like that means that you arent liberal enough to be a democrat and you deserve to be labeled exactly what you are…conservative snippy republican wanna be.
obama is a loser ,far to conservative to really be called a democrat in the first place, hes more like republican-lite, and hes a monumentally terrible choice for president given the democratic party alternatives, BUT, given all that i would still vote for him vs any republican always because i am a democrat and a liberal and i denounce the republicans en total , and their money grubbing ,big business loving , complaining about taxes till its sickening fatcat elitist ways, all of them.
i ,like any true liberal , detest republicans/republican ideals and ANY democrat/liberal taking over a republican/conservative held political position of any sort, would be a welcome and needed change in my opinion.
this country needs unity among the thinking informed voter, not division and childish squabbling . obama supporters are mostly naive and emotional younger voters and minorities, rarely do i find them to be informed and objective. they sound like little kids mostly ,ranting instead of listening to reason. basically they are saying ; IF MY FAVORITE DOESNT WIN I WILL VOTE TO HELP THE OTHER SIDE ,BECAUSE I AM A BIG BABY AND I AM MAD I DIDNT GET MY WAY!!!
lets be clear on this…if a democrat, any democrat , is nominated for the presidency and someone does not vote for them ,that person is patently helping the republican machine and shouldnt be in the democratic camp at all in the first place.
go away obama republicans ,you arent liberal enough to be called a democrat…

Americans whine about how much they want change, but when they’re given the opportunity to vote for real change, they don’t. Why? Because we let fear guide our vote. That’s how Bush got into office the second time and it’s why people won’t vote for Obama. The Clinton machine is working overtime stoking peoples’ fears about electing a person of color to the highest office in the land. Repeated references to cocaine use and his Muslim middle name, his lack of experience (since when does first lady experience count towards elected office)
the intimation that it takes a white person in Washington to get anything done, on and on. Race is the elephant in the room despite what people say in public. When they get inside the polling booth they don’t vote for change–they vote their fears. And for those who say race doesn’t have a role in politics, please explain why there are no African-American senators from the South ?

I am soooooooooooooo proud of you Hillary. As an African American, I am just so full of excitement about the first woman president in the United States being you. I admire the many, many things that you have done in your time on both end of Pennsylvania Ave.
Derrick SD

Any one care to notice that there is a recount underway in New Hampshire due to voting irregularities?
As the saying goes, it ain’t over until its over.

OF COURSE SHE WON !! DO YOU QUESITON OTHER CLOSE RACES? NO..JUST IF A WOMAN WINS

Republicans for Hillary, stop McCain !

We can blah, blah, talk, talk all we want but the answer to the question is YES – it’s not an opinion… it’s a fact – think of peace – have a good MLK weekend, the votes are not all in until the end of this year – but even if Obama gets some advantage in electoral or the popular in the end Hillary will get way more of both – not because she’s white and not because she’s a she… or even her politics or religion – it’s because HILLARY is the best human for the job of president in the US starting in 2008 and beyond. We are lucky to have her – even if you don’t realize it now… you will. Take care and may peace be with all of us now and into the future as we evolve to a peaceful world:)

anyone who says hillary is some sort of “status quo” politician doesnt understand american politics at all. that cannot be said about a REAL democrat/liberal ,which she very certainly is . liberals are almost to a tee changers and pacemakers and innovators , not like the republicans who dont want to see anything change at all because they are getting rich(er) currently…
(pssssst btw, thats why they are called “conservatives” they do a large part in “conserving” the status quo of “their” american political system ,ie; a system of patent corruption ,graft ,elitism and mis-use of power(s). they really gotta go…)
“hillary (and her ideals) are a part of the political status quo and we dont need that ,we need CHANGE!! ”
ahem…people use your heads…thats a nifty knee jerk catch phrase that some obama think tanker dreamed up to play mind games with the ignorant , gullible and easily fooled youth/minority voter demographic. guess what, its working!!
ANYONE BUT A REPUBLICAN ,THAT IS THE BATTLE CRY!!!! DONT FORGET IT!!!

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Precious little separates the policy positions of Hillary, Obama, and Edwards. Democratic voters must then ask themselves who best can reach across parties in November? In my assessment Hillary cannot win against McCain. End of story.
Unless America wants to continue to export our tax dollars to senseless military initiatives rather than to invest them in America’s future here at home, Senator Obama must become the next Democratic nominee. It takes political courage to acknowledge that nominating Hillary represents more of the same old political gridlock, bipartianship, and lack of transparency in government. I call upon democratic leaders and Americans both to say No to the Bush/Clinton dynasty. This is America’s future, our children’s future.

I don’t know how anyone can claim that Hillary won. It’s only the delegates that count.

Caucuses should be banned as a means of choosing our next President. As if an “open” caucus were not bad enough, Montana’s Republicans are about to hold a CLOSED caucus, where only party officials will make the choice… NO public participation. “Smoke-filled rooms” and Boss Tweed politics do not belong in our political process. Congress needs to establish ONE primary election day (for ALL states) with BINDING results. This way, the convention farces could be abolished and WE (the people) would be choosing our next President.

Well, now. The Rezko the trial is about to begin in Chicago and *shazam*–the Rezko money begins spilling out of Obama last night.
A low-income housing project received more than $14m from taxpayers while Obama was a state senator, but he consistently denied that he had done any favours for Rezko. That was until the Chicago Sun-Times unearthed two letters Obama wrote to state officials in 1998 urging them to grant extra funds for Rezko’s project. Democrats and Republicans alike are intrigued by the question of why Obama paid $1.65m for a mansion in the city’s south side in 2005 -$300,000 less than the asking price – on the very same day Rezko’s wife happened to buy the house next door for the asking price. Obama is a con man, nothing more.

Can anyone explain to me why in Obama speech today speaking from the pulpit of Ebenezer Baptist Church at MLK service he is once again bringing race and what blacks should do the stop all the oppression in America.When the outside world listens to stuff like this I swear they will feel that ALL Americans do is oppress blacks in this country. All this talk about the walls of Jericho can finally come tumbling down if we march, This is really pushing this talk to the max now, maybe Obama feels life in America was too quiet, things too silent so its time to stir the pot and create some mischief but that is surly a very dangerous road to follow. I really do hope someone puts a stop to all this racial hints and just stick to the issues in this election.

This South Carolinian is voting for Hillary. It took until today to make up my mind, but I want someone with actual plans for real change, not someone with promises of change and no plans to back them up. We had the best 8 years under Bill Clinton, and Hillary will have the best advisor there is. Nuff said.

LOL Obama disses the only democratic presidnt for the past 30 years, Bill Clinton and praises Reagan. I must admit that voted Reagan twice in the 80′s and the Reagan quote makes me have second thouhs about Obma, but, did vote Bill Clinton twice in the 90′s and these were the best years of my life. Whither you democrats and african americans in partcular, did you love Reagan?

also, i hear some people saying that hillary is to much of a political divider and we need someone to work with the republicans…
to that i say…HOGWASH! what the democrats need to do is what the democrats USED to do , and that is ; keep big business and the rich on the up and up while instituting needed social programs and taking care of infrastructure needs , eg; bridges ,roads ,dams etc etc… basically butter BEFORE guns ,always. if the republicans want to work with the democrats to do the RIGHT thing , thats fine ,but if not the democrats should just do what needs to be done and let the republicans look bad trying to stop them.
one huge problem though is the supreme court that has largely been nominated during republican dominated governments,thereby ensuring a conservative tack for some time to come.look at their latest decisions and its easy to see how conservative they are. still, there are ways to get around the supreme court and hillary can figure out how to do it if anyone can.
the last 2 republican presidencies rammed their republican agenda down the american peoples throats with no regards whatsoever as to the consequences , now its time to elect democratic majorities in the senate and house ,get a democrat in the white house and do the EXACT same thing to them ,in effect reversing the slimey tide of elitism and favoritism that has made this once great and admired country a shadow of what it was just 40 years ago…. god i miss you jfk…!

bah, it’s not just about party affiliation; it’s about the PERSON! No previous Republican has been a theocrat like George W. Bush. In my lifetime, the best two Presidents have been John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan. No one in either party today can be compared to these two REAL Presidents.

FROM ‘HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT WEBSITE’ – PRESS RELEASE 12/12/07
“…She must break recent tradition, cast cronyism aside and fill her cabinet with the best people, not only the best Democrats, but the best Republicans as well.. We’re confident she will do that. Her list of favorite presidents – Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, both Roosevelts, Truman, George H.W. Bush and Reagan – demonstrates how she thinks…”
YES WE CAN
Anne

SPIN SPIN SPIN.
Obama is a UNITER in Iowa, but now DITCHES that and plays the ‘DELEGATE CARD’ when its convieninet.
hooboy. To those who say clinton DIDNT win is utterly STUPID.
if clinton won over 500 more state delegates than Obama, you are saying this:
EVERY time clinton won it was 51 to 49
EVERY time Obama won it was 99 -1 %
therefore Obama got more ‘votes’
The random odds of a candidate winning this many MORE state delegates (500) than Obama but Obama got more actual votes is like a BILLION to one.

Thank you J. Perez. The media is trying to act like Latinos don’t support Obama. But that’s OK, on supertuesday, everyone will come out. They are doing nothing but making people more resolute in not voting for Clinton.

To all those who are going for Hillary, I would say be careful, and not assume that all Obama’s supporters will coalesce behind Hillary if she won. I am a young educated African American man, and I support Barack Obama for president. I am not registered Democrat but as an Independent. While Hillary claims to support Affirmative Action and other issues important to blacks like Obama, I seriously will not vote for her if she wins the election. Character is an important quality too, and when I see Bill and Hillary Clinton smear the first honest black viable candidate in this nations history the way that they are, I just say that Actions speak louder than words. I have several friends who agree with me on this issue. Believe Obama will win, but worse case scenario I’d go with a Republican if need be, because character matters too.

So,
Hillary Clinton can only muster 5,355 votes when 98% of the precints had reported and Obama recieved 4,733 total votes to that point.
Seems like nobody won and the candidates were uninspiring. Let’s face it people, there are 50,000 people on the Las Vegas Strip on any weekend.
One more thing is that New Hampshire was a relief and a humongous dissappointment for Hillary Clinton. 1 month earlier winning that state by only a slim margin would have been a disaster.
But Clinton’s lack of ability to connect with people in Iowa and Obama’s star rising because people actually like him. That will never happen for over 1/2 the country with Ms. Clinton