By Ed O'Keefe

Jan 24, 2008 9:44am

Ready, Aim, Fire

Opinion by Matthew Dowd, ABC News Political Contributor

Lordy Moses, what a last few days watching the Democratic race for president heading into the South Carolina Primary.

I have said for many months that the Hillary Clinton campaign was like the British Military during the American Revolution or India.

She had assembled all the generals and officers, she had all the fancy uniforms, they had practiced all the formations that had worked in battles in the past, everyone had their medals, and they were girded for a fight.

And for Barack Obama to win this battle, he would make a big mistake by taking the fight to the "British" in the same way and with similar plans and formations. He had to run a different type of campaign –- a more unique and unprecedented type of effort which would seek not engage the Clinton campaign on their turf.

When he has run a more original campaign which matched his message, he has been successful, and when he is confronted her in the way she and her campaign fights, he hasn’t done as well.

Obama is favored to win South Carolina this weekend –- primarily because of his strength with African American voters. The big question is: will he get any momentum out of it, and how will he do on Super Tuesday?

The way he has campaigned this week, I see problems ahead for Obama. 

He is engaging the Clintons straight up on their battle formations. He is trying to send his own version of British soldiers against them, and as we all know, a more experienced British Army will beat a less experienced British Army every time.   

In my view, he needs to take a page from Gandhi (or Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., whose holiday was celebrated this week) and not hit back in similar fashion and practice tenacity in the pursuit of truth in a non-violent way. 

Let Clintons have their "war room" and have him rise above it.   

How the debate that happened this week turns out in voters mind is an open question, but the fact that Clinton and Obama were basically reduced to the political version of a playground fight, isn’t a good thing for the Obama campaign. 

If he becomes a typical politician running a typical campaign of hitting your opponent, he loses his brand. 

However, the Clintons might be making a long term mistake in the type of campaign they are running recently. They could be sowing seeds of major problems with voter groups over time (especially the general election) by alienating Obama supporters -– specifically motivated black voters and younger voters.   

Hillary could win the primary fight, and have taken the energy out of two key voter groups she needs to win the general election. 

The way the Clintons have come after Obama reminds me of a scene in the movie "The Patriot" with Mel Gibson and the late Heath Ledger.

As you may recall that mean-spirited British officer finally has enough of the Revolutionaries, so he huddles a small town of people into a Church then locks the doors and burns everyone inside alive. It helped in the short term, but was a rallying cry in the long term. 

So as we head into South Carolina, my unsolicited advice would be for the Clinton campaign to not overdue the attacks, and for the Obama campaign to go back to a less negative while still confrontational plan.   

If that were to happen, then no matter what the results, the voters would stay engaged.

And as a total aside on the Republican side, some unsolicited advice for Mitt Romney: since he seems to have deep pockets, I would buy a Super Bowl spot which would air two days before Super Tuesday. 

Produce something funny and real creative, and they would get tons of free press out of it –- no campaign has done this before!

User Comments

I think Obama will do well because of the African American vote, but I agree with the writer that attacking Bill Clinton is not helping Obama. He has his own star power.
Since the writer is ignoring the third front runner, I will predict that John Edwards will finish a strong second. He knows the people in SC. They aren’t interested in playground fights. They want results and someone who represents the adult wing of the Democratic party.

Posted by: Benny | January 24, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

This obama bashing may come back to haunt clinton, Bill was called out last night on hardball by a very liberal journalist. He called Clinton Liars, adn a lot of America is seeing Clinton now painting Latinos as her building blocks. This is not sitting well with the Black community. And the republicians are just sitting back taking notes and making commericals to air against the clintons. Bill and Hillary are splitting the party along racial lines.

Posted by: Steve | January 24, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

i’m disappointed, matthew dowd, how you could write that whole column and not mention john edwards. this was the first time i had ‘clicked on’ your blog and looks like i won’t be visiting much. that is just plain wrong. like this is a 2 person race– this is a prime example of the uphill battle je has faced. it is sad for the people not to get the information, i thought that was your job..unless you are just manipulators

Posted by: lori | January 24, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am

“…..i’m disappointed, matthew dowd, how you could write that whole column and not mention john edwards”
Edwards is a dead man walking. He continues in the race out of pure greed for the limelight, without a glimmer of a chance.

Posted by: trapbreak | January 24, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

The Clintons tactics might appear admirable when they are being used as a defense against a republican attack machine. But seeing these tactics applied within a democratic primary is repulsive. Not only will I not vote for Hillary should she win the democratic primary, if McCain gets the republican nomination, I will likely vote for him. Then Obama can beat him in 2012.

Posted by: kmal | January 24, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

C’mon….Obama is “BLACK”. This is how the black people do it….they fight!!! It’s in their blood. That’s the reason majority prison inmates are black people. Asking Obama not to attack is like telling a pitbull to sit. History says alot about black people.

Posted by: ken | January 24, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

When my reeducation camps open for people who apposed my vision for AmerikA, I will make sure that Obama, Limbaugh, and all white males are properly re-educated.

Posted by: Hit-lery Rolled-ham Chicom | January 24, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

Mr. Dowd, well, well. What’s with the advice? So who exactly are you trying to convince with this FREE advice? The campaigns or the bloggers/the people? You could have just sent the campaigns emails, right? After how the Republicans behaved the whole time they tried to bring down the Clintons; you went on to be part of the Republican strategy that was just as ruthless with Gore and Kerry. Being that you were part of that team that helped to get Bush in as President, I don’t trust your motives.

Posted by: irma | January 24, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

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YES WE CAN
Anne

Posted by: annevilla | January 24, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

I have heard more and more Democrats saying that if Hillary wins, they’ll vote for McCain. This proves just how polarizing a figure she is. The truth is: Hillary will be the best unifier for the GOP and they’ll win in November if we don’t take her out now! Most people are falling for the Clinton disgusting attack tactics so they continue to use them. I disagree with Mr. Dowd in the fact that for weeks Obama ignored the numerous false allegations made against him by the Clintons but he is not a saint! I doubt you, Mr. Dowd or anyone else could have lasted this long without charging back. Obama must defend his record and we, Democrats must start looking at the big picture: Hillary won’t win in November!

Posted by: Millie | January 24, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

Clinton is devisive and is burning bridges withing the party as well as putting republicans even further away from any bi-partisanship by vilifying them. The Clintons know they don’t need the black vote if they can get the latino vote. But against a ticket with McCain on it, she doesn’t have a chance.

Posted by: Louis | January 24, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

Matt: apparently, you haven’t seen John Kerry’s call-to-arms e-mail if you’re thinking that Barack Obama intends this to be a “straight up” battle.

Posted by: ABCNewsFan1 | January 24, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

Millie is right! We must make clear to Hillary and Bill that they have to behave with civility within the primaries or they will not be supported ever again.
BTW, there are a few ignorant racists on this board right now. Thank goodness they’re predictably Republican.

Posted by: kmal | January 24, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm

Matthew,
I think you are correct. Obama doesn’t beat the Clintons at their own game. Perhaps this is the oft-mentioned “experience” factor. Campaign experience.
If it is to be Obama’s time, he must run a campaign of lofty ideals and unification. If the Dem establishment can’t get behind that, then perhaps Obama looks to an Independent run. How about an Obama/Lieberman ticket to turn this nation on it’s head. Big, bold ideas.

Posted by: Kevin | January 24, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

One things for sure. If Hillary wins the White House. She won’t cheat on performance. Because if their is any cheating to be done, Bill is going to do it.

Posted by: WestSideStory | January 24, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

It is disgusting to watch the Clintons in action and this is clearly what we should expect for THEIR term. I really had such high hopes for the Democratic Party going into this primary and Obama has shown himself to be the definition of class. The Clinton’s may think their “win at any cost” approach will be forgiven. They may win simply as a contrast to the alternative but it’s likely people will feel Clinton fatigue almost immediately and as soon as the election is over, they will be counting the days until they can boot them out. I very seriously doubt she could get reelected because everyone will have seen the dirty politics in 2008 and come down on them so hard they will barely have time to pack in 2012. And what of Obama? The best face the Democratic Party has had in years? The Clintons just can’t stand that it is time for Bill to be eclipsed. They will do anything to destroy the opportunity of a bright future the Democratic Party has.

Posted by: Sloane | January 24, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Bill lauds Rove
Check this out:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/14/AR2007081401722.html
“Hey, you did a marvelous job, it was just marvelous what you did,” Clinton told Rove, according to the book “The Way to Win: Taking the White House in 2008,” by John F. Harris and Mark Halperin. “I want to get you down to the [William J. Clinton Presidential] library. I want to talk politics with you. You just did an incredible job, and I’d like to really get together with you and I think we could have a great conversation.”

Posted by: norrisah | January 24, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

thanks irma, for confirming for me re matt
“you went on to be part of the Republican strategy ”
i know edwards is the most feared to run against, and that is why the media giants manipulation to keep him out of the loop. go irma,
as for trapbreak, you sound like the deadman walking. sad for you.
go edwards

Posted by: lori | January 24, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

Obama has all losers in his campaign and you want them to win a hard war????
Look back at his past campaigns, he was very lucky to meet all weak opponents.
But this is the real world and his opponent is the most formidable rival.
If he win some primaries it is good enough. This campaign may destroy his political future when he run out of luck.

Posted by: MyLe | January 24, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

Strategically, I am a little torn, because I do think that the Clintons’ dirty tricks are hurting Senator Obama. And yet, I agree, that if this just devolves into a free-for-all slugfest, that will hurt Obama more than the Clintons. As the old saying goes – “Never wrestle with a pig. You’ll both get dirty, and the pig likes it”. Senator Obama should leave those two pigs in the mud and stay clean above them – it’s his best chance for victory.

Posted by: John | January 24, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

MyLe clearly you like to roll in the slime the Clintons are spewing out. The Clintons appear to be establishing a monarchy and a very ugly one at that. If you think it is in the best interest of the Democratic Party to destroy Obama’s political future, you are extremely short-sighted. Hopefully more intelligent minds will prevail in the Democratic Party to reign in the Clinton’s massive path of destruction.

Posted by: Sloane | January 24, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

too bad for Obama … you either stand for something or you fall for anything … and he doesn’t appear to stand for much. He goes to a church for 20 years that praises Farakahn and calls this “white America” and yet he wants the support of white voters.

Posted by: Jackson | January 24, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

I see Clinton bashing is thriving in these posts…..hmmmm. I wonder why that is?

Posted by: irma | January 24, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

HA! I disagree. This is spoken like a typical white man who has no vision of being in a blacks shoes. The Clintons start a fight with Obama about race, about lies on Obama’s record, they have been hitting him left and right, his jaw is swollen by now, he has been knocked down with smears from a former 2 term president and his lady and you say he should remain down and let them kick him and stomp him? You’re crazy. I think it’s about time Obama fought back these Clintons. They know exactly what they’re doing and yet media says Obama should not fight back. Fight back, Obama, against this slime, you’re doing great. Let the public know how dirty they are, reveal their dirty laundry! OBAMA ’08!!

Posted by: RuthieM | January 24, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

The Clintons(yes i mean plural) are running for president.
You don’t get the Senator without the former President.
Has anyone thought of the political mess that will create.
Democrats need to wake up.
I am a registered democrat , and i wouldnt vote for the Clintons even if George Bush sought a third term

Posted by: Lark | January 24, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

Actually. The truth is, voting for mccain is to vote for everything Obama is against. Its lame brain STUPID for an Obama person to vote for McCain out of SPITE. Which of course what this is about. What this means is that childish little Obama fans dont GET THEIR WAY , they will throw their vote away on SPITE to a republican . Nyah Nyah. Like voting in John McCain is going to be a smart move. 100 more years of war blha blah blah.

Posted by: tom | January 24, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Oh, he really is desperate and looking again like a very sore loser. Because his “rough and tumble Chicago politics” have not worked, I guess this perpetual whining and complaining about the Clintons is the only tactic he has left. Upon reading the Las Vegas Sun accounts of union intimidation, it seemed to me that charges could easily be made by Hillary against Obama’s supporters. And what about that nasty radio ad calling her a “disgrace?” What do John Kerry and tom Daschle think about that? Unfortunately Sen. Obama has done a poor job of showing the American people why he should be president. This alone is the reason he is losing.

Posted by: Justin | January 24, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

I agree somewhat with Mr. Dowd’s comments but don’t get any sense of what going “back to a less negative while still confrontational plan” means. It would be nice to give a practical example. Say someone says something about you that you know to be untruthful. What would Mr. Dowd recommend you do?

Posted by: Nana B | January 24, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

My view of the Clintons have changed. I am for Obama. We do need a change. I agree that he shouldn’t play their game, but he also can’t afford not to respond to their attacks. It’s a hard place to be in.

Posted by: Jan | January 24, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

To the author of the comment about blacks being like pit bulls, they cime out fighting, Well what the He** do you expect. Have you forgotten we have had to fight for everything we,ve accomplained and this has not been an easy road. You say that the majority of prisoners are black and you are right. When we get this Black man in the White house then maybe we Black’s will be treated equally in all aspects including the judicial system. And furthermore if you or any other Whites were attacked you also would come out foighting.Have you forgotten what we as Blacks have ahd to endure from Whites, so you can keep those racial remarks to yourself because us Blacks don’t give a hoot what you think.We will contunie to fight for equality since the White man forced us to this land and we built this land we have more rights than Whites if you want to get technically. So mind what you say about the people that made America what it is.

Posted by: michelle moore | January 24, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

Obama will lose and crawl back to the cesspool he and Rezko made out of Chicago

Posted by: Tammy Moore | January 24, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

The Clintons have changed American Politics.Hate Politics is their new Campaign!

Posted by: Listen up | January 24, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

Obama band-aiding his disastrous defeat in Nevada? Sour-graping that he lost when he expected to win? Unwittingly, Obama is going against his own self. With his latest tantrums over his primary and caucus losses and poll frustrations, he is not UNIFYING the Democrats, but DIVIDING them to serve his self-interest and indirectly to aid the Republicans. How can he UNIFY when he insults the voters in Nevada and other states who voted overwhelmingly for Hillary? How can he preach CHANGE and HOPE now with his recent manifestations of HOPELESSNESS and his defiant insistence to CHANGE the course of Hillary’s steady march to nomination victory? Barack, you were doing well before towards the Iowa caucus, but you’re doing worse now towards Super Tuesday. And who is benefiting from your stumbling – it’s Hillary.

Posted by: Justin | January 24, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

To the comment of Michelle Moore. 700,000 white people died in a civil war that most people did not want to free the black. How many blacks died or suffered. Give me a break with your pity we were slaves. Slavery is still legal in Africa. Everybody suffers. Be like the JEWS when the recieved their freedom from the egyptians 3000 years ago and do a exodus from America if you hate this land so much.

Posted by: Tammy Moore | January 24, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

Why are people more angry over Hillary Clinton than an administration that has allowed 4000 American’s die, and probabaly more. Why are you not mad at illegal wire tapping, torture and the basic destruction of our civil liberties??? Hillary Clinton is human, she has made mistakes, but the hatred you have for her should be focused on what we have allowed our country to become over the last 7 years. Hillary Clinton will restore America to her greatness.

Posted by: Mary | January 24, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

Democrats with their 100′s of millions will not even be able to beat Senator McCain who is running on a shoe string budget..

Posted by: Tammy Moore | January 24, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

Comparing Obama to Kennedy? What a joke! Also, if Obama can’t handle a debate with two democrats, how will he be able to handle a debate with a republican? Didn’t you see his answer to the 30% interest cap limitation question from Edwards? His answer (which I truly beleive he did not want to say that) was stupid. He did not notice what he was saying. It proves he can’t handle the pressure of a debate when he is asked tough questions.

Posted by: Mary | January 24, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

I don’t think the Rezko question is done with. The media (NBC, CBS, FOX and CNN) have not pursued this issue. ABC covered it for a day and did not mentione it again in spite of the hundreds of blogs in response to that one article. “A review by the Los Angeles Times shows that [Antoin "Tony"] Rezko.played a deeper role in Obama’s political and financial biography than the candidate has acknowledged.” Sen. Obama yesterday claimed that “no one had an inkling” of Mr. Rezko’s troubles during their relationship. But there were many media reports about Mr. Rezko’s legal and ethical problems. Read more and get the facts here.

Posted by: msy428 | January 24, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

Obama is taking the Clintons on and actually holding them accountable for their words. While they’ll do everything they can to muddy the waters and make him look like he’s the one with the negative campaigning, this is beginning to backfire on the Clintons.
How tragic that she keeps talking about how she’s running on her record, but then sends out her surrogates to lie about Obama and slander his name. Bill Clinton needs to point his fingers back at himself. Shame on the Clintons. They’re making a disgrace of this entire process and people across all racial and socio-economic lines are beginning to see just that.
And this is just the beginning. They’re doing the equivalent of torching their own campaign and fueling the fire of why America (Democrat, Republican, and Independent alike) wants out of the partisan politics of the past 20 years under the Bush/Clinton dynasty.

Posted by: JW | January 24, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

I cannot believe the hatred in these blogs,poor Hillary she needs a thick skin..If these bloggers are an example of the voting American public,the world of the future will be a scary place

Posted by: gramma moses | January 24, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Mr. Dowd,
What you you do if people went about spreading lies about your positions and distorting your statements. Say nothing? I doubt it. The fact is, rumours catch fire, whether we like it or not.
Clinton, the so-called first black president, is being racist by trying to pigeonhole Obama as popular in SC because he is blacki.
Most of all Clinton is acting in a way unbecoming a former president. His behavior represents a new low – even for him, which means a lot.
Stop this mess, Bill. Here is a link to a petition to the DNC asking Bill to cease and desist with the smear:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/566752872

Posted by: Lioness | January 24, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

As someone who has spent most of his time this campaign looking at the Republican field, I think Obama did great in the debates.
Your suggestion that he raise about the “war room” is ridiculous considering how vulnerable Clinton actually is. This is a women who is about as entrenched in the status quo as one can get. She has a foreign policy/civil rights record that makes Dick Chenny happy and you suggest that Obama shouldn’t bring any of that up.
I understand that Obama also has his entanglements, but to suggest that there is some parity between them is erroneous or disingenuous.
As a voter my main concern this time around is too stop hemmoraging money in this stupid occupation that makes us weaker by the day. Having said that if I’m forced to choose between Hillary and pro occupation Mccain, I am going with Mccain.

Posted by: Aaron | January 24, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

He probably should take the tactic of rising above the petty politics of the Clinton machine, however then he’ll lose because we all know american politics has become an american idle special effects show. At least he’d be able to sleep at night without tranquilizers.
What curious about both of these ‘parties’ (and they are parties to be certain) is that neither has addressed their base exclusivity strategy (which makes our vote worthless), and neither has addressed the basic constitutional problem of a dictatorial executive (other than to say its bad), nor have they even hinted (perhaps mccain has in his own way) in how they intend to apply law in an essentially lawless nation.
Seems it has devolved into a soap opera rather quickly, once again with for-profit medias help. I’d suggest they run the next debate as a WWF event (either party), with costumes and catchy psuedonyms and all.

Posted by: pmv | January 24, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

I am not sorry that Obama spoke up — he showed that he does in fact have a voice and can stand up to a political machine “remember David and Goliath” — Bill just keeps bring himself down — what can you do?? Same ole, same ole — Hillary divides her party ssying she can unite the country — No Soap and people aren’t buying it — including her new moderating “house” voice. But she still looked like a fish monger saying I demand mandatory Universal Healthcare — why didn’t the press pick up on this “my way or the Highway” attitude — now who does that remind us all of???

Posted by: Paulet | January 24, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

First of all, Chicago is not a cesspool. Obama won Iowa and the Clinton’s went on the attack. Then Hillary cried and got the sympathy vote and the momentum back. They decided to change tactics after they lost Iowa. I was in Iowa knocking on doors and talking to lots of white people. I am African-American with locks and country white folk all over Iowa loved Obama. 72 year old white ladies loved Obama. Now the press is focused on race and other non-issues. Same old lies and mis-truths. Obama will prevail if people turn off the TV and vote with their hearts and minds.

Posted by: Delano | January 24, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

Has anyone informed Sen Obama that he is vying for one of the highest offices in the world and that feel good speeches are not all it takes to obtain the keys to the White House?
Has anyone informed Sen Obama that when you throw mud, you had best be ready to be retaliated upon?
Has anyone informed Sen Obama that using hypothetical stances as an outsider does not bode well with those who were actually inside dealing with presented facts only privy to them nor is it a foundation for providing superior policies in the future?
Has anyone informed Sen Obama that by simply branding yourself doesn’t make you better without proof and having a solid record that your brand is better?
Has anyone informed Sen Obama that in this day and age of the information highway provides access of verification?

Posted by: me | January 24, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

if Hillary and McCain win the nominations it will be the first and last time i vote for a Republican. If Hillary gets it and McCain doesn’t I will sit this one out. I understand that Democrats have to stick together to defeat the Republicans, but it seems like they will do and say anything to win. Even if it means destroying the Democratic party to do it.
While I was typing this I finally understand why Bloomberg thinks he has a good shot to win if its between Hillary and Romney or Huckabee. If its down to them I will have no choice but to vote for Bloomberg.
I think its fitting that all this is happening in South Carolina. This is where Bush smeared McCain with half-truths and racist subtexts, and Billary is doing the exact same thing.
Could Obama be our last best hope to take back this country for rational people?

Posted by: waleeg | January 24, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

if Hillary and McCain win the nominations it will be the first and last time i vote for a Republican. If Hillary gets it and McCain doesn’t I will sit this one out. I understand that Democrats have to stick together to defeat the Republicans, but it seems like they will do and say anything to win. Even if it means destroying the Democratic party to do it.
While I was typing this I finally understand why Bloomberg thinks he has a good shot to win if its between Hillary and Romney or Huckabee. If its down to them I will have no choice but to vote for Bloomberg.
I think its fitting that all this is happening in South Carolina. This is where Bush smeared McCain with half-truths and racist subtexts, and Billary is doing the exact same thing.
Could Obama be our last best hope to take back this country for rational people?

Posted by: waleeg | January 24, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

if Hillary and McCain win the nominations it will be the first and last time i vote for a Republican. If Hillary gets it and McCain doesn’t I will sit this one out. I understand that Democrats have to stick together to defeat the Republicans, but it seems like they will do and say anything to win. Even if it means destroying the Democratic party to do it.
While I was typing this I finally understand why Bloomberg thinks he has a good shot to win if its between Hillary and Romney or Huckabee. If its down to them I will have no choice but to vote for Bloomberg.
I think its fitting that all this is happening in South Carolina. This is where Bush smeared McCain with half-truths and racist subtexts, and Billary is doing the exact same thing.
Could Obama be our last best hope to take back this country for rational people?

Posted by: waleeg | January 24, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

if Hillary and McCain win the nominations it will be the first and last time i vote for a Republican. If Hillary gets it and McCain doesn’t I will sit this one out. I understand that Democrats have to stick together to defeat the Republicans, but it seems like they will do and say anything to win. Even if it means destroying the Democratic party to do it.
While I was typing this I finally understand why Bloomberg thinks he has a good shot to win if its between Hillary and Romney or Huckabee. If its down to them I will have no choice but to vote for Bloomberg.
I think its fitting that all this is happening in South Carolina. This is where Bush smeared McCain with half-truths and racist subtexts, and Billary is doing the exact same thing.
Could Obama be our last best hope to take back this country for rational people?

Posted by: waleeg | January 24, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

What everyone seems to be missing is that Obama is not “black”. He has a white mother. Why does he feel the need to hide that part of his heritage and only play up the black part? Doesn’t that tell us anything about who he will be for if he gets elected?

Posted by: hilaryforpres | January 24, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

“To the comment of Michelle Moore. 700,000 white people died in a civil war that most people did not want to free the black. How many blacks died or suffered. Give me a break with your pity we were slaves. Slavery is still legal in Africa. Everybody suffers. Be like the JEWS when the recieved their freedom from the egyptians 3000 years ago and do a exodus from America if you hate this land so much.”
Posted by: Tammy Moore | Jan 24, 2008 2:19:41 PM
—-I was going to respond, thinking you were a true human looking to have a constructive conversation, until I saw your earlier vile statement. What can I say? I simply hope more real human beings will move towards making this earth a better place. If not then little beings like you win, and we’ll continue fighting each other.

Posted by: Doles | January 24, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

He is Black because he looks black. He will always be treated as a black man and refered to as a black man. It would be fair to call him a white man too. But to do so is to deny what you actually see. Obama is a black man and Hillary Clinton is a devil woman.

Posted by: waleeg | January 24, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

Mr. Dowd:
Your analysis is correct, to a point. However, Obama was in a position where he had to show his mettle, or forever be branded a good talker, but chicken-hearted. [Recall how the pollsters had graded him just before the Pennslvania debate].
Now that he has shown a capacity to stand up to ‘the best of them’ and maintain his integrity, he should move forward, as you have suggested. The recent vetting by the Clintons and the press will serve him well in the general elections. Don’t you think?

Posted by: WintonyMay | January 24, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

January 24, 2008
To Whom It May Concern:
Mr. Obama should be ashamed. Dance Mr. Bojangles, dance.
During the Democratic Debate held in S.C. on MLK day. Mr. Obama was asked to comment on Toni Morrison’s quote that former President Clinton was, “the first black President”. It was apparent throughout the debate that Mr. Obama was angry with President Clinton. After a few gratuitous words of inelegant praise from an otherwise elegantly poetic speaker Obama chose to end his discourse with a racial joke. “Well, I’d have to see how well he danced to see if he was really a brother.” The audience roared.
How is this acceptable or funny? This joke plays into the exact racial subtexts and stereotypes that divide this country. Mr. Obama’s platform is one of change and unity. This joke at the expense of President Clinton is demeaning, and denigrates the truly inspirational work that President Clinton has done for the African American community. This joke divides. This joke promotes racial stereotypes. Can you imagine if Hillary Clinton had been asked the question and responded with the same comment, that she’d have to see how well her husband danced before she could tell if he was black? There would have been pandemonium! It would have been the end of her race for the presidency. Why is there such a double standard?
Some may argue that it is acceptable for a black man to joke about black people. I disagree, and this was also a slur against President Clinton and whites in general. In Denver yesterday a listener of the radio show KHOW called in to discuss this very issue. The response from one of the hosts was that it was acceptable because it was funny and he was trying to bring levity to a serious situation. What?! Humor is subjective. This was not a comedy review. This was a presidential candidate vying for the most powerful position in the world. Is he going to make jokes and slurs when he feels under attack from other racial, ethnic, and minority groups? Is this how he will further our foreign policy? Is this how he will unite our country and world?
The irony is that this racial joke was done on the very day we were honoring Martin Luther King, Jr. Mr. Obama, who has been trying overly hard to show that he is worthy to step into Mr. King’s shoes has shown us very clearly that he is not. His behavior was outrageous and certainly not Presidential. Martin Luther King, Jr. would never have made that joke, especially about President Clinton. Neither Toni Morrison nor Martin Luther King, Jr. would have been amused.
Dance Mr. Bojangles, dance. Goodbye Mr. Obama.
Sincerely,
Robert Jameson

Posted by: robert | January 24, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

The “dirty tricks” that so many Obama supporters see are simply pointing out the contradictions in Obama’s statements and actions. While he argues for the high ground, he takes very questionable digs at Hillary Clinton. So why isn’t he called on the carpet? For example, how can he gloss over the countless “present” votes that keep his record out of the political fray, and how can he declare that the Clinton presidency had no new ideas (only crediting Reagan) and not expect Pres Clinton to fight back???

Posted by: john | January 24, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

Clintons are running, Hate Politics! and Hillary Voted for the War In Iraq.To me thats like Voting to send our Son’s & Daughter’s off to die!

Posted by: Listen Up | January 24, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

so it was okay for Obama to take the first hit at the debate by saying Walmart? What do you think Hillary going to stand there and not hit back. Obama just mad because she hit him 10x harder. You know what they say you mess with the bull you get the horns. Oh and Obama wife is on a company board and only step down six month ago. Guess what they have ties to Walmart. This guy is too green to be President.
His new ad is nasty and goes too personal. He will win S.C. but he can forget NY, NJ, CA, etc. At least we win have a better look at thing on Feb. 5th Thank God…

Posted by: Victoria | January 24, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

McCain in the past has been a middle of the road kind of senator. He voted and worked for america. After he gets elected, I expect to see the same guy at work.

Posted by: ric | January 24, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

I’ve never voted for a “repug” in my 72 years. But if Hillary is the answer, I will vote “republican” this year.

Posted by: terracotta | January 24, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Has anyone informed Sen Obama that he is vying for one of the highest offices in the world and that feel good speeches are not all it takes to obtain the keys to the White House?
Has anyone informed Sen Obama that when you throw mud, you had best be ready to be retaliated upon?
Has anyone informed Sen Obama that using hypothetical stances as an outsider does not bode well with those who were actually inside dealing with presented facts only privy to them nor is it a foundation for providing superior policies in the future?
Has anyone informed Sen Obama that by simply branding yourself doesn’t make you better without proof and having a solid record that your brand is better?
Has anyone informed Sen Obama that in this day and age of the information highway provides access of verification?

Posted by: BILL | January 24, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

To Whom It May Concern:
Mr. Obama should be ashamed. Dance Mr. Bojangles, dance.
During the Democratic Debate held in S.C. on MLK day. Mr. Obama was asked to comment on Toni Morrison’s quote that former President Clinton was, “the first black President”. It was apparent throughout the debate that Mr. Obama was angry with President Clinton. After a few gratuitous words of inelegant praise from an otherwise elegantly poetic speaker Obama chose to end his discourse with a racial joke. “Well, I’d have to see how well he danced to see if he was really a brother.” The audience roared.
How is this acceptable or funny? This joke plays into the exact racial subtexts and stereotypes that divide this country. Mr. Obama’s platform is one of change and unity. This joke at the expense of President Clinton is demeaning, and denigrates the truly inspirational work that President Clinton has done for the African American community. This joke divides. This joke promotes racial stereotypes. Can you imagine if Hillary Clinton had been asked the question and responded with the same comment, that she’d have to see how well her husband danced before she could tell if he was black? There would have been pandemonium! It would have been the end of her race for the presidency. Why is there such a double standard?
Some may argue that it is acceptable for a black man to joke about black people. I disagree, and this was also a slur against President Clinton and whites in general. In Denver yesterday a listener of the radio show KHOW called in to discuss this very issue. The response from one of the hosts was that it was acceptable because it was funny and he was trying to bring levity to a serious situation. What?! Humor is subjective. This was not a comedy review. This was a presidential candidate vying for the most powerful position in the world. Is he going to make jokes and slurs when he feels under attack from other racial, ethnic, and minority groups? Is this how he will further our foreign policy? Is this how he will unite our country and world?
The irony is that this racial joke was done on the very day we were honoring Martin Luther King, Jr. Mr. Obama, who has been trying overly hard to show that he is worthy to step into Mr. King’s shoes has shown us very clearly that he is not. His behavior was outrageous and certainly not Presidential. Martin Luther King, Jr. would never have made that joke, especially about President Clinton. Neither Toni Morrison nor Martin Luther King, Jr. would have been amused.
Dance Mr. Bojangles, dance. Goodbye Mr. Obama.
Sincerely,
Robert Jameson

Posted by: BILL | January 24, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

FOR ALL OF YOU THAT WOULD VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN IF HILLARY IS NOMINATED MAKES ME SICK! YOU CARE NOTHING ABOUT AMERICA OR OUR CHILDREN AND THE ENVIROMENT! GO AHEAD YOU LOW LIFE VOTE REPUBLICAN AND I HOPE IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN TORN FROM WAR AND SCANDALS FROM THE BUSH ADMINSTRATION COMES OUT AND KICKS YOUR ASS! STUPID AMERICA THE TRUTH IS YOU DONT WANT A WOMEN IN THE WHITE HOUSE BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT THE CLINTONS WOULD NEVER DAMAGE AMERICA LIKE BUSH BUT YOU RATHER HAVE A YOUNG PUNK THAT CAN’T EVEN STAND ON HIS OWN IN A DEBATE AND IS STUPID! IN A SCANDAL RIGHT NOW! JUST GO AWAY STUPID PEOPLE YOU REALLY SCARE ME!

Posted by: Tammy | January 24, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Boy, does this nation need a new civil war. It cleans all the bad feelings out.

Posted by: Bill Chicom | January 24, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

Everybody chill. What a sensitive bunch! This is a political campaign. What do you expect? One question I have: Why does Obama talk one way to “his” people and another way to the whites. Who is he, really? Yesterday I heard a speech in which he chided the Clintons for calling “hope” a “fairy tale”. If that’s not a distortion, what is? He is not the all-holy savior the media and everyone else makes him out to be.

Posted by: StorySoFar | January 24, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Mr. Obama should not have run at this time. He is too ambitious. Just because he did a good speech in 2004 and a good enough response, and a first time stent as senator, does not mean he is the best candidate for president among the Democrats. His best posture should have been that of a more circumspect and sagacious statesman, waiting for the right time to run. I find him just the best vice president for Hillary and he will be a sure presidential candidate for all Democrats after Hillary’s tenure. By that time, experience, vision, hope and all other positive images of him, plus most likely an all-out support from all Democrats will be in the bag. Then he’ll surely become the first black president and the Democrat’s control of government will extend furthermore into the distant future.

Posted by: LEE PETERSON | January 24, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

I can not believe the post. several months back when Mrs Edward and Michelle Obama was trashing Hillary nothing was said. But when she starts fighting back everybody gets mad. President Clinton has a right to campaign for his wife. If you really listen to all the debates she has won most of them. I think lots of people can not stand the thought of a woman Pres

Posted by: brenda | January 24, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

80% of the people on this site http://barackforpresident08.blogspot.com say they will NOT vote for Hillary if she gets the Democratic nomination. 9% say they will while the other 10% are undecided.

Posted by: facemn | January 24, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

i;m not a american peoples. but my suggestion to all of you, i think hillary and mr obama. they from same parties.if u peoples think. it;s hillary time for her. if u think obama can do it more. vote for him just. look a way forward for american peoples future. vote for the right person. dont think about race or gender all human beign we are one one. not bcus of white of black or yellow or blues. think of the person can lift american peoples up. thats my advise for all american

Posted by: james | January 24, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

The people who say that somehow Democrats are traitorous if they vote for McCain vs. Hillary have no idea of the level of fatigue and contempt this nation has for the ongoing partisan bickering and battling. McCain has demonstrated that he can unite, and compromise on black and white ideology to make progress. Bill and Hillary are too in love with the power and themselves to seek compromise for the gpood of our nation. They’re in it for the fight – it’s what they love to do. You think they’re fighting for you? For your hopes, your desires, for your children’s future? If you do, you’re duped. They’re fighting for themselves, and as another writer put it, they’re like pigs in mud right now reveling in the battle. They can’t even make nice with their fellow Democrats. So, strangely enough, I think the best way to end the war is not with Hillary, but with McCain. I think the best way to protect the environment is with McCain. Restart the economy? McCain. Not because he’s a Republican, but because he is a pragmatic leader who I think, derspite some of his ideologies, cares about America more than he cares about his political party. And that’s why lots of Republicans can’t stand him, and why so many independents love him. Step back from the fight for a moment, and think about what this country needs and cannot accomplish with 4 to 8 more years of the Clintons and their “vast right wing conspiracy” claims that are nothing more than excuses to keep from really accomplishing anything, and inspiring hope in this great nation.

Posted by: john | January 24, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

i;m not a american peoples. but my suggestion to all of you, i think hillary / mr obama. they from same parties.if u peoples think. it;s hillary time and she can help american peoples to proud of america again vote for her. if u think obama can do it more. vote for him just. look a way forward for all american peoples to move on and to be proud of america again in the world think of america future. vote for the right person. dont think about race or gender all human beign we are all one.in front of (GOD ALLMIGHT) not bcus of white of black or yellow or blues. race think of the person who can lift america up. and rebuild american image in the front of others country in the world.that,s my advise for all american peoples. a little word is enough for a wise. jesus said love everybody as u love your self. and try to forgive, even peoples who kill jesus. he still ask GOD to forgive them bcus they dont know what they are doing. if u are good christinan who will know. this. forgive obama for is past. and even clintons.

Posted by: james | January 24, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

I see Clinton bashing is thriving in these posts…..hmmmm. I wonder why that is?
I agree with you 100%;
if black voting for Barack because he is black than this country will face racial segregation more years. What Barack will face in general if he wins primary. May be by that time white will scare to vote for him.
I have to say he has very deceptive motives since i get to know about his Church’s activities.

Posted by: jmaya, iowa | January 24, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

hes gotta engage them, he walked into the trap and nows he gotta get out of it.
If Hillary ran 4 years ago shed have been a lock for all the rank and file, but we want Obama. We want to feel hopeful again, RFK and JFK were stolen from us, we dont need some ordained cyborg wonk like Hillary running the country now. America needs to evolve, and Hillary is just a master of the game that needs to change.
I think we’re especially fearful since there was a 13 point swing in 24 hours in New Hampshire, that Hillary is as Obama says: “Bush Lite”. Seriously, ask all your liberal friends if they dont feel slightly “wrong” about New Hampshire. If they dont feel like NV was a little fishy either.
Hillary was set to lose, and all of a sudden through a miracle of modern technology she pulled off an historic 13 point swing beating all projections and exit polls to win in New Hampshire. Now we get the double tandem saturation of Bill and Hillary all over, with a comparison over who is blacker than whom, a white lady or an african american senator.
If Obama plays nice and lets Hillary and Bill dominate the airwaves like some twisted siamese twin where one is really the other and any and all success are the aggregated sum of this androgynous super political proto-deity, then yea hell lose. He needs to separate their parts, get Bill to overreact and marginalize himself, and focus on Hillary’s record in a standalone fashion.
Bill isnt the candidate, Hillary is. It seems the media forgot that. Obama cant sit back. Especially in the wrongness of the characterizations being proffered by Bill. He doesnt lose his brand by hitting back, hes just gotta be careful about how he hits back. Because if he doesnt respond, he’ll be history.

Posted by: bongstradamus | January 24, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Wake up people. If by some strange twist Obama gets the nomination I will be voting for a Republican for the 1st time. He has no experience to be president.

Posted by: dkdoyle | January 24, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

Wake up people. If by some strange twist Obama gets the nomination I will be voting for a Republican for the 1st time. He has no experience to be president.

Posted by: dkdoyle | January 24, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

I have followed and viewed the pro-choice, Reagan, war, present votes accusations carefully and every fact check site I have seen comes to the same conclusion I did. The Clintons have repeatedly distorted and lied about Sen. Obama’s positions using MSM, through ads and flyers. Their tactics and tone have gone far beyond what we should think is acceptable. I voted for Bill Clinton twice but at this point I don’t think I could in good conscience vote for Hillary right now. How is what they are doing any different than what Bush did to win primary and general elections? I don’t think I could vote for McCain either. I’m a 50 yr. old woman and have voted in every election since I was old enough to vote. I hope I don’t have to make a choice between Clinton and McCain. I don’t think either of them are what this country needs right now to move forward.
FYI: The “present” votes that were made such a big deal were out of over 4,000 votes and are very common in Illinois legislature. They are often a result of one party or the other voting in blocks as part of a strategy as was done in the case of several votes regarding abortion and done at the request of Planned Parenthood. Some things are difficult to explain in a 30 second sound bite.
I think Obama is in a difficult position because of all the lies the Clintons are pushing. If he doesn’t answer them, we have another “Swiftboat” situation and if he does answer them it takes him off message and makes it difficult to create the different kind of politics we need to begin working together to get anything done. If we only have 50% agreeing on anything, it doesn’t matter who is president, nothing will get done.
All the scandals and during and after Monica, Bill Clinton had difficulty getting anything done because he had lost his credibility and political capital. He also needs to bear some responsibility for the severe division in this country and the elections that followed. Is Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton really the best we can do? If 50% of the country says they would never vote for Hillary, can she even win in November? Especially if so many democrats stay disenchanted with her tactics and tone while campaigning?
I think it’s time to give someone new a chance. Do we really want to relive all the chaos and tabloid fodder from the 90s? How can that be good for the country.

Posted by: Nancy Crump | January 24, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

I have followed and viewed the pro-choice, Reagan, war, present votes accusations carefully and every fact check site I have seen comes to the same conclusion I did. The Clintons have repeatedly distorted and lied about Sen. Obama’s positions using MSM, through ads and flyers. Their tactics and tone have gone far beyond what we should think is acceptable. I voted for Bill Clinton twice but at this point I don’t think I could in good conscience vote for Hillary right now. How is what they are doing any different than what Bush did to win primary and general elections? I don’t think I could vote for McCain either. I’m a 50 yr. old woman and have voted in every election since I was old enough to vote. I hope I don’t have to make a choice between Clinton and McCain. I don’t think either of them are what this country needs right now to move forward.
FYI: The “present” votes that were made such a big deal were out of over 4,000 votes and are very common in Illinois legislature. They are often a result of one party or the other voting in blocks as part of a strategy as was done in the case of several votes regarding abortion and done at the request of Planned Parenthood. Some things are difficult to explain in a 30 second sound bite.
I think Obama is in a difficult position because of all the lies the Clintons are pushing. If he doesn’t answer them, we have another “Swiftboat” situation and if he does answer them it takes him off message and makes it difficult to create the different kind of politics we need to begin working together to get anything done. If we only have 50% agreeing on anything, it doesn’t matter who is president, nothing will get done.
All the scandals and during and after Monica, Bill Clinton had difficulty getting anything done because he had lost his credibility and political capital. He also needs to bear some responsibility for the severe division in this country and the elections that followed. Is Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton really the best we can do? If 50% of the country says they would never vote for Hillary, can she even win in November? Especially if so many democrats stay disenchanted with her tactics and tone while campaigning?
I think it’s time to give someone new a chance. Do we really want to relive all the chaos and tabloid fodder from the 90s? How can that be good for the country.

Posted by: Nancy Crump | January 24, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

McCain won’t unite us. He WILL offer huge permanent tax cuts to industry, he’ll deny American women the freedom to choose, he’ll keep us at war in Iraq and add on Iran just for kicks. And if you think we can sustain this war and any new offensives without the draft being reinstated – you’re just kidding yourself. So all you young men and women who think McCain is a good alternative to Obama – I wish you luck in the Middle East.

Posted by: hallihunt | January 24, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

Who is Obama, is he an agent of Change or is he an agent for Black only? I can not tell now.

Posted by: suzelee | January 24, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

all i know is, because I have my child’s future at the forefront of my considerations, I trust Senator Clinton with the Presidency more than anyone else running right now….better experience and resources to protect our soldiers and us and our allies from terrorism; better credentials to tackle the problems facing our kids, from health care to education; better experience and resources to help turn America’s economy around; plain and simple, Senator Clinton is the best choice for America

Posted by: Chris | January 24, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

Hallihunt, you were only wrong about McCain not being a uniter. McCain the warmonger will unite us when our dead bodies are thrown in together in a hole, after fighting during WWIII

Posted by: Maria | January 24, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

I and most of sw mo woundn’t vote for obama at all and to make a point i never voted for bill clinton at all i went republican but i and most of us republicans will vote for hillary, As for racism there is still a lot of racists in this area and through out the contry contrary to what the media says i drive for a living.

Posted by: James springfield mo | January 24, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

Obama’s campaign was over when he started comparing himself to Martin Luther King Jr. What did he think was going to happen? He and his campaign know when the holiday was being celebrated. He set himself up and wrote his own obituary in this campaign. No one else did that.

Posted by: s.b. | January 24, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

Obama’s campaign was over when he started comparing himself to Martin Luther King Jr. What did he think was going to happen? He and his campaign know when the holiday was being celebrated. He set himself up and wrote his own obituary in this campaign. No one else did that.

Posted by: s.b. | January 24, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

With all this back and forth, what is lost is that Bill and Hillary started it. The problem with them, is they just will not stop. They run people and reputations down. Let’s face it they just don’t have any morals. Here is a past president famous quote, “To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society.”
You do know that these two are not the only ones in this primary race and we do have 3 Democratic candidates running for the nominee, right?

Posted by: Angel | January 24, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

YAY!!! angel to the rescue!!!
yes there are 3 candidates still running
i can’t believe the bitter feud going on between the hilarys and the obamas, i am for edwards because i believe is the wisest choice AND can beat mccain.
if obama gets it or hillary gets it, i will vote for them. … unless of course paul gets the nomination-just kidding.
go edwards–he’s the best choice for all
sorry that mr dowd wants to mislead by not mentioning him.

Posted by: lori | January 24, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

After seeing the way the Clintons are behaving, if Hillary gets nomination, I will vote for Republican in November, for the first time in my life! What a shame.
Republicans are praying that Hillary gets it, because it’s the only chance they can win, while they aren’t sure of their chance with Obama.

Posted by: Mike | January 24, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

Obama is preaching to the black people he could care less about us white folk’s vote. We are a dieying breed anyway.

Posted by: Jeanette | January 24, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

Excellet article and right on the money. Obama is above all of this. Let them make fools of themselves.

Posted by: eric donofan | January 24, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

Jeanette, you’re a jerk with nothing to offer but a knee-jerk reaction. With no more proof than you’re offering for your comment, you could just as easily say that the Clintons are only preaching to the white people and could care less about the black folk’s vote. Here’s a news flash for you: Obama is half-white, and he’s O.K. with that. Too bad you can’t say the same.

Posted by: Not Jeanette | January 24, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

Obama and Edwards started the attack first, and Clinton tried to ignore it. Good for clinton that she doesn’t take the back of the hand from them. I’m glad she’s finally answering back.
The press is doing to her what they did to Al Gore. All kinds of negative press for her and good press for Obama (like Bush). Polls saying that she is doing worse, then does great (Remember all gore was supposedly losing in the polls and Bush was taking a “victory lap around the country” prior to the election? –only to find that Al Gore actually WON the election??). 8 years after living under a slimeball President, then she’ll receive the good press.

Posted by: Adam | January 24, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

ALL Republican Strategists in the media have said they would rather go against Hillary in Novemeber ~ B/k they know they can beat her. Barack is the ONLY Democratic candidate who has a chance of beating the Republicans ~ B/k of his “crossover” appeal. Many Independents & moderate Republicans would vote for Barack but would NEVER vote for another Clinton. I’m a registered Republican who wants to vote for Barack. Hopefully ALL Women, & Latinos realize this and vote accordingly.

Posted by: Craig | January 24, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

Obama has a lot of hateful supporters that have the same speech he does… They want to unify the Dems but spread nothing but hate. His supporters say they hate the Clintons, obviously Obamas message of unity does not apply to his supporters. Intimidating people into voting for Obama in Nevada says much about the people who campaign and support him.
So much for Mr. Unifier a.k.a Barack Obama
Get real people, if he can’t take on Hillary, the Republicans will not pitty him and he will be attacked much..much worse.
As Hillary said “If you can’t take the heat, stay out of the kitchen!”

Posted by: Fem4Hillary | January 24, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

Obama has a lot of hateful supporters that have the same speech he does… They want to unify the Dems but spread nothing but hate. His supporters say they hate the Clintons, obviously Obamas message of unity does not apply to his supporters. Intimidating people into voting for Obama in Nevada says much about the people who campaign and support him.
So much for Mr. Unifier a.k.a Barack Obama
Get real people, if he can’t take on Hillary, the Republicans will not pitty him and he will be attacked much..much worse.
As Hillary said “If you can’t take the heat, stay out of the kitchen!”

Posted by: Fem4Hillary | January 24, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

STILL MY VOTE GOS FOR SEN. CLINTON, A TRUE AMERICAN, WHO IS FOR ALL OF US.

Posted by: ALVIN | January 24, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

I’m the one that made a comment regarding Clinton bashing on this site. I don’t think its Obama supporters. On the contrary, I think it’s mostly Republicans. See, Republicans hate the Clintons because they are Democrats that had the vote of the Democrats no matter how hard the Republicans tried to bring them down. I understand the tensions from Obama supporters; we’re competing to be the Nominee people. That is normal tension. Fortunately, we do all share core Democratic values. There are White people for Obama and there are black people for Clinton and Edwards. Yes, people are sticking to what they know best. That’s why I support the Clintons, I am that Clinton generation. Yet if Obama’s or Edwards’ supporters pull off the Primary, I too will become an Obama or Edwards supporter. ‘Till then, GO HILLARY!

Posted by: irma | January 24, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Obama’s supporters, can some please explain to me what Obama is trying to say. We are all immigrants and all immigrants are American. Is he trying to say illegal immigrants? Who is he talking about?
From Obama’s MLK speech: 1) For too long, some of us have seen immigrants as competitors for jobs instead of companions in the fight for opportunity. Link to the speech: http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/rospars/CGxG9
From Obama’s MLK speech: 2) For most of this country’s history, we in the African-American community have been at the receiving end of man’s inhumanity to man. And all of us understand intimately the insidious role that race still sometimes plays – on the job, in the schools, in our health care system, and in our criminal justice system.
And yet, if we are honest with ourselves, we must admit that none of our hands are entirely clean. If we’re honest with ourselves, we’ll acknowledge that our own community has not always been true to King’s vision of a beloved community.

Posted by: suzelee | January 24, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

Unless Barack Obama makes headway among Hispanics and less educated, less affluent whites, and women, Hillary Clinton will probably be able to get the Democratic nomination (regardless of her dirty campaign and very real potential to damage the Democratic party). She would win the battle, but lose the war in the general election. I predict that many disgruntled Democrats will either not vote, or vote Republican. I’m an Obama-supporting independent voter, and will vote for whoever wins the Republican nomination if Clinton wins the Democratic nomination. I don’t despise any of the Republican as much as I despise the Clinton machine (it’s a draw with Romney though).

Posted by: Quino | January 24, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

please come on people. Politics have been nasty ever since Thomas Jefferson. What makes you think that politics in 08 are going to be any better then when Jefferson was alive?! Politics will never be clean or honest. That is the thing about Politics. It is your job to be informed because it is to easy to tell a lie. Hillary has expirence, Obama has charisma and wit. Look at what you value most and don’t vote because of gender or race. Any one of these canidates are qualified to be president (republican or democrat) and they need to be given the proper respect. What they are doing is not easy. They want to make a change.

Posted by: Paige on Politics | January 24, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Reading through these comments, it seems that the Clinton campaign has hired paid stooges (or maybe volunteers) to saturate the blogosphere with pro-Clinton comments. Hardly any comment is pro-Obama! If Hilary is going to play dirty she better not be so damn obvious LOL. Now what’s wrong with Hilary? She is FAKE! She even changed her laugh to a cackle – God knows why – quite suddenly, and when it backfired she dumped the cackle just as suddenly. How can I take a Presidential candidate seriously who has a LAUGH strategy, for crying out loud? And a candidate whose husband can out-think and out-maneuver her and does so in public?

Posted by: Garg | January 24, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

He voted ‘ABSENT’ on the Iran resolution. He voted ‘Present’ on issues when a little Obama CON-viction would have mattered.
Ok, this sweet-sweet talker gave a great anti-war speech, I wonder though if he would have voted ‘PRESENT/ABSENT’ WHEN IT REALLY MATTERED?

Posted by: mcsummit | January 24, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

I have a dream.. that Hilary is facing a tough decision and she is paralyzed because Bill disagrees! The spousal spat continues while the world waits for a decision… peering intently at my crystal ball, I now see that Hilary gets tired of Bill’s meddling and dumps him after the election.. IF she wins! She is sounding more and more like a nagging housewife and less and less like a President of the Unites States.

Posted by: Garg | January 24, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

Please check your facts before you go spreading them on the internet.
Go to barackobama.com

Posted by: Nikole | January 24, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

You Know, I listen to some of these man talking about black people and how they are use to fighting and all that..kmal dude..now he is what you call poor white trailer trash, these type of white trash always name calling. I know you voting for Hilary..you is hoping a preying for her on trashy type to vote for her. Educated white people like myself are not affaid of Obama we are voting for him because he is smart and the only person running who could win. I will never ever vote for Hilary if she wins I will vote for Mc Cain. Let her and Bill go back to New York never back to the white house…So you are wrong Mr. Dowd…Obama is a man he his to fight back…Bill Go Home!

Posted by: heybetho | January 24, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

I keep hearing people talking about the OBAMA brand! Not yet!
Lets face it, when in the history of a country a total unknown politician without credentials, real records, or even family history have raise to the top in less than 2 years? That sounds like a good movie plot or a nice story, right? This only can happen when big corporations, corrupt individuals, and opportunistic politicians -some of then sore losers like Dashle, Bradley, Kerry-, and powerful political machine knew they can come with a “fairy tale” and touch the heart of many people and that’s wrong. They are playing with all of us including Obama they poured millions of dollars and they created this all of the sudden super-hero, hyped the wave and were ready to claim the prize way to quickly. This power struggle is more than the bickering between Hillary and Obama is the behind scenes real fight between the sore losers that never agreed with Bill Clinton and resented the fact his wife was running for the wife house.
Those are the same machines that crashed Governor Dean’s campaign 4 years ago and are trying to crash Edwards campaign now. Those machines don’t care about the future of the party, all they care is about their own entrenched interests; they don’t care about who they put on the White House -just like the Republicans did with Bush- all they care is to elect a President they can manipulate and serve their interest. I became and Independent 3 years ago; but now I will vote for Edwards.

Posted by: Jon | January 24, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

Obama is right to defend himself against the wolves…If a man does not fight for himself how can you expect for him to fight for his country…You are way off base Mr. Dowd get it right.

Posted by: Heybetho | January 24, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

AMERICA HAS GIVEN SOOO MUCH TO ALL OF US. TODAY SHE IS IN PAIN AND SHE IS CRYING FOR HELP.IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, I FIND IT SHAMEFUL THAT ALL WE CAN DO IS THINK OF OUR RACE AND GENDER.ARE WE GOING TO RISE ABOVE THIS AND OBJECTIVELY VOTE FOR THE DESPERATELY NEEDED CHANGE, OR WATCH AMERICA SLOWLY DIE……

Posted by: no skin color | January 24, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

Matt,
I disagree that setting the record straight was a bad strategy for Obama. I think sometimes the media gets caught up in their own theories of about politics, which are based on conventional wisdom and do not apply to every campaign. Clinton was attacking him so directly and outlandishly that he had to say something or it would have sounded like tacit agreement. And from what I see, it seems that Clinton has pushed too hard and it has begun to backfire. Many people seem to agree, even the Clinton supporters who asked Bill to tone it down at one of his SC events today. I think Barack maintained the moral high ground by only responding when attacked and by not distorting his claims in the outrageous Rovian fashion that Hillary did. Nonpartisan media outlets like factcheck.org seem to agree. If you don’t agree wit this assessment, what would you have Obama do? He couldn’t just sit there and take a beating, passive-aggressive style, because this is an election, not a protest movement. Those tactics depend on physical violence, which instill a sense of shame in the oppressor. This is a Presidential election and not responding to attacks makes a candidate look weak (Re: Kerry, John, 2004).

Posted by: PS in Austin | January 25, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am

MY VOTE GO
FOR SEN. CLINTON

Posted by: Johnson | January 25, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

I am independent, and my vote goes to Clinton’08.
Those people who are choosing between McCain and Obama don’t know what they are talking about. These two have totally different policies. McCain wants to stay in Irap War!!
“Straight Talk” or “Pureness of Heart” are just brands they give to themselves.
Please…..go beyond those self-painted portraits and look at the substance. Senator Clinton is the best choice.

Posted by: Terry | January 25, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

He pushed the wrong button, he asserted at the time. Two of the admitted flubs were on hotly contested issues.
By Peter Wallsten, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
January 24, 2008
Barack Obama angered fellow Democrats in the Illinois Senate when he voted to strip millions of dollars from a child welfare office on Chicago’s West Side. But Obama had a ready explanation: He goofed.
“I was not aware that I had voted no,” he said that day in June 2002, asking that the record be changed to reflect that he “intended to vote yes
This is why Hillary has my vote!

Posted by: Fem4Hillary | January 25, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am

As much as I would like to see either a woman or an african American as President right now I have lost a great deal of respect for both candidates and am seriously considering voting Republican. I understand zeal and I understand stress and the theneed to fight back however I feel there are more appropriate ways to go about this then either candidate has displayed. The Clintons seem rather storm trooperish and Mr. Obama in my eyes now lacks creditability as an agent of change.

Posted by: Nic | January 25, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

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Posted by: kingsley | January 25, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am

Am very suprised that the Obama people are complaing about attacks but they forgot when Obama called president Clinton and his wife the senator from punjab or when he printed some stuff that Clinton is a fraudstar. If Obama cannot stand ordinary campaign attacks and clarifications, then tell me how he can withstand Putin and Chinese president in the security council who will do anything to put America in a tight conrner

Posted by: kingsley | January 25, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am

Down with the Clintons Hate-Politics!

Posted by: Listen up | January 25, 2008, 6:24 am 6:24 am

Hil all the way! Stop being wusses and stop crying. Hil will win the General Election. I am not sure how she will fare as a President, but the Clintons do know how to win an election. Everything they are doing is part of their plan, so it is foolish to think they are destroying their chances.
And I cant believe those out there that say they will vote for Rep over Hil. The beliefs of a Rep are so diff from the Dems, that I cant believe you would ever vote the other way.
Like the New York Times says, Hil is the best canidate, and the polls show that more Dems are in favor of her also. While you Ovama folk are all on here crying, the real people are out there in the real world.

Posted by: john | January 25, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am

Seems this is a majority Republican site. In case you all forgot, Obama’s wife Michelle threw the firt punch at the Clintons. Barack is losing his squeaky clean character and showing his true side. I watched the debates in S.C. and Barack threw out the first personal attack on Hilary and she responded to him with one. It’s a fact he had worked for Roscoe the slum lord and Good Morning America questioned him the next morning and he admitted it and he said he gave back the $80,000 but then Diane revealed he kept $200,000 they gave to his campaign. Obama is a fox in sheep’s clothing. HE is dividing this race by bringing out Oprah and them going into heavy black communities using thier “BLACK” voices literally. I never hear Oprah or Barack use that type of tone anywhere else. They are both highly intelligent people yet demean their race by changing the tone of their voices when among their black community. I say Go HILARY!!! At least we know what we are getting with her. Obama refuses to tell us his policies and how he will pay for them. HE dances nicely around answering direct questions. HE is not for universal health care and he lacks experience which Hilary has. Any republican nominee will eat Obama for breakfast. We need a hard hitter like Hilary to defeat the Repubicans.

Posted by: Ann | January 25, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

I disagree with the writer. We have seen what may occur when one candidate lashes out and the other candidate fails to respond. Ala, John Kerry campaign. In the political arena one must demonstrate that one can take a punch as well as return one. In this the Democratic campaigns the Clinton’s have reached a new low or high depending, on one’s persuasion. Never before have we seen a former President of the United State turn his stature from a place of admiration to a disingenuous place of dirt. He has indeed become a political hit man for his wife. Obama has a difficult task to try and maintain his campaign of hope against such a well oil organized dirt machine.

Posted by: bigdipper | January 25, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

I think that the Republicans need to think up a smarter stragtegy. The Democrats are on to what the Republicans are trying to push here. Hillary stands more of a chance against the GOP than Barack does and for obvious reasons. America is NOT going to vote a black man into the office of the Presidency when he’s up against an old white Republican. It’s never going to happen! So you guys speak so fondly of Obama in the media to perusade the country to vote for him instead of Hillary, knowing Barack doesn’t stand a snowball’s chance in hell of being elected.

Posted by: Mary | January 25, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

The prince whom the media put on the pedestal ran a campaign based on the ideal of hope and self righteous purity. He forgets he is a politician, he is not fighting colonialism or the civil rights movement of Gandhi and MLK respectively. At the SC debate he dived into the mud pool by taking the first punch, in fact he initiated it. It was a self inflicted wound and when the punch came form the opponent, he doesn’t know what hit him! He reminds me of a student who starts an ambitious and unrealistic project and half way through realized, “Oops, I’m stuck, help!” This is the big league, if he can’t take the punches now how is he going to withstand the far right neo-cons? Do you guys really think that they will embrace him and open the doors of the white house for him to sail in?

Posted by: beejay | January 25, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am

Mary; you are wrong by far, you are a perfect example of racisim! Republicans are scared of of any Democrat,all America knows there will be, elected a Demo President this term! Demo’s will turn out 5-1 on Republicans in Nov. I think the Majority of Demo’s have finally got wise to the Clintons Hate-Tactics and Obama will come out ahead!

Posted by: Listen Up | January 25, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

I disagree that Obama is using the same campaign strategy as the Clinton’s, even as he rises to challenge the accusations made by the Clinton’s. He has always remained upbeat and inspiring, and he has never displayed the same need to step on any Democratic nominee out of fear of losing the nomination. The Clinton’s on the other hand are using the strategy that they claim Republicans will use on Obama, so perhaps Congressman Clyburn (D-SC) is correct that this will toughen Obama for the general election. The issue really is whether these Billary tactics will work, and whether the Democratic faithful will allow them to get away with dividing what should be a unified period for our party. I don’t agree with Hillary that Democrats will unite behind whomever the nominee is at the rate that her husband is going. I am more apt to vote for McCain, and that’s because I’ve voted Democrat in every presidential election. Republicans will unite if Hillary is the nominee, and if the Clinton’s really believe that Hillary isn’t divisive, then just look at what they’re doing to the Democratic base in these primaries.

Posted by: Jorge | January 25, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

All of you seem to be forgetting after all the mistakes as a man Bill Clinton made (which I fimly beleive was a set up) He still manageed to make the country strong and loved by the rest of the world.We were economically strong and had a surplus in retirement funds.His wife has done nothing more than fight for people all her life.You are all a bunch of idiots that let GW win 2 elections.(He actually stole them)
Get off your asses and quit letting the right neocons have their way.

Posted by: Top | January 25, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

The Clintons have perfected the art of dirty politics. They are masters at the politics of division. If Hillary gets the nomination, she loses in November because Americans are sick of divisive politics.
Looking at the 2004 electoral map and margins of victory in each state, 4 red states were carried by Bush by a margin of less than 2.5%: IA, NM, NV, OH. And, 5 blues states were won by Kerry with a margin under 3.5%: MI, MN, NH, PA, WI. Can you honestly see Hillary changing any of those red states? And, how many of these blue states does she turn red? You can forget all of the current trends being polled because the general election comes down to a choice between 2 personalities, not parties.
With Obama, his ability to unite people will give the Democrats the chance to carry the close red states, keep the blue states, and add VA, LA, AR, GA, FL, CO, AZ to “in play” status. Plus, by uniting people, he would be able to get things done in Washington. He could get 60 senators to go along with him on many issues. In fact, with Obama at the top of the ticket, the Democrats will probably pick up seats in both the Senate and the House.
Wake up to reality all of you Clinton defenders. It’s time to turn the page.

Posted by: Mike | January 25, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

Obama worked for The Jack Abramoff of Chicago who Obama buys a house from this slum merchant in Chicago that he represents for 300K under market value. Didn’t that GOP politician do that in California as a beard for a bribe? Wake-up and smell the coffee. Do you think Obama will beat McCain in a national election? I don’t think so, it takes more than rhetoric to be a President. I think Obama is an empty balck suit.

Posted by: Sandra Lea | January 25, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

Clintons remind all Americans how to be a pig. If one chooses to fight the pigs, then, better send a butcher. John Edwards can do it, but he is fighting for his own survival. Hill and Bill are two are slimy, sweet talking, dirty and corrupt politicians to the core. They represent all that is wrong with Washington. Fellow Democrats should think for the party, turn the page on the Clintons and allow us to start a cleaner country.

Posted by: Chris | January 25, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

I am unable to log on to abcnews to comment other than pages as these. This has happened since I started pointing out Obama’s flaws. What is going on?

Posted by: Sandra Lea | January 25, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

If you have the cards, play them.
Awesome article on this at the BlogZine SAVAGE POLITICS.
Wow all I have to say!
“The Boom Generation and their Pathetic Spawn” at http://www.SAVAGEPOLITICS.com

Posted by: Elsy | January 25, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Annevilla: Why don’t you take your video and yourself with Obama to Kenya and play it there. They might enjoy seeing Obama on the tube. We all know he will win in SC but how about the other states. He didn’t do well in Nevada and New Hampshire and Iowa was only a caucaus. He hasn’t won a primary and if he wins this one it will be his first. Hillary is leading in California and Florida and will capture Texas, Arizona, Pennsylvania and Oklahoma. She might even win in Wisconsin even with the Governor endorsing Obama. So there you have it. Obama will not win the nomination now or in the future. If all he can get is the black votes whites outnumber blacks in this country and that’s why he lost in two states.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | January 25, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

Sandra: It appears that the media is promoting Obama because they are afraid of the Clinton’s being in the white house again and they don’t want Bill Clinton to be making the speeches for Hillary. That will not happen. Hillary know how to talk for herself and could teach Obama so he can get rid of that accent. He will never be a JFK or MLK so if he said he is like tham all I can say is good luck!

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | January 25, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Show us the canidates and let us draw OUR own conclusions about what happens daily. I think much of the “drama” being reported on TV and in these daily newspapers, is artificial news, created to lure viewers and stir controversy. This would feel like a much less devisive Primary season, if the Media weren’t taking snips from the Canidates and their supporters and ignoring the substance of the issues. America deserves better.

Posted by: TJ | January 25, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

OBAMA has rightfully turned the Race into a War againt the BLACKS and The WHITES!
Blacks will now support him for this reason only and nothing else will matter.
Whites don’t like us blacks so they won’t make a black vote!
Obama is finally a Stand for us African Americans! White Folks beware!

Posted by: Ebonee | January 25, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

When Hillary first announced her candidacy the News media on a nearly daily basis hounded her “Where is Bill? Why isn’t he out supporting his wife? Why isn’t the most well-loved U.S figure out helping his wife??
Elizabeth Edwards (who had cancer and the media made certain we knew every personal detail)was on the tv screen 24/7 cutting Hillary into pieces and stumping hard for her husband while Edwards stood quietly in background- allowing his wife to pull in as much sympathy votes as she could muster! Michelle Obama was popping up here and there, telling the Country how politics should be left to the men in the world and women should stay home and take care of the kids! And how her cute little girls say their Daddy Smells Stinky and Gross in the morning! And she believes her husband would be much better for the U.S than any woman!
This is the type of stuff the Media feeds us on a daily basis. This is the info the media wants us to know about the Candidates. These I guess are the important issues.

Posted by: Lorna | January 25, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

TO KMEL and his uneducated comments about black people listed above…
GET OUT OF THIS COUNTRY…WE DON”T NEED YOU! MOVE TO SAUDI ARABIA OR SOMEPLACE WHERE BIGOTRY IS ENCOURAGED!

Posted by: geoff | January 25, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

I agree, dirty politiking comes easier for the Clintons they enjoy it. Barack believes more in intregity and diplomacy instead of tearing me down. I think the country needs someone like him more than ever.

Posted by: Dee | January 25, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

Black people have always supported white candidates, we are more open to voting issues as opposed to race. Isn’t it time we move beyond this? Look at this country…you can’t blame this on black folks

Posted by: dee | January 25, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

Black people have always supported white candidates, we are more open to voting issues as opposed to race. Isn’t it time we move beyond this? Look at this country…you can’t blame this on black folks

Posted by: dee | January 25, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

Obama was never above politics, he is a Chicago politician with deep connections to people like Resko, the slumlord, they live next door to each other. The media just repeated for months Obama’s fictional speech of {” bringing to Washington a new type of politics.” Whe I heard him the first time, I knew I was hearing a charlatan, he is from Washington, and the whole USA knows what “type” of politics is necessary to winning in Chicago. Thank you Bill Clinton for taking on the media, and on this “inspirational” speaker that can not take the heat.

Posted by: D Quint | January 25, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

D Quint, — well said and totally 100% agreed. Obama is not worth of the whole buzz the media created of him. Bill Clinton did a good job by bringing this guy down from his “fake” pedestal and to the real world. The whole Obama strategy was planned in having him above the fray because they knew he is an untested candidate that have never won a real fight!
If you can’t stand the Clintons who were just stating some facts the “friendly press” never reported or focused on, if you don’t answer for that, you can never never win a fight against the Republicans!
Welcome back to reality Mr. Obama!

Posted by: Peter_Chgo | January 25, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

At the end of the day people will vote their favorite candidate, rhetoric will not help either candidate.
I suspect Hilary will surprise us all once again and win or tie in with Obi, and that will be the beginning of the end for
Obama, as it should be.
Hilary Clinton is the only candidate ready to take the job of president from day one.
She is well known to Europe and all other industrialized nations, and that is good for trade foreign investment and stock markets.
While Obi (Obama) is already on the no list of many
international papers and negative TV reports from Italy to Japan.

Posted by: Giampi | January 25, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

To Robert Jamison,THANK YOU FOR YOURS ANALYS. I was shocked with the way obama responded myself but I guest it was ok for people. I found his answer very disappointed because racially charged.I like Obama but he did show that he is still imature.That was a moment he could score big by showing some class in his answer by that he chooses to be a typical politician.I remember him and Edwards attacking every deabte while their were behind the polls. And sudently they decided not to attack.Obama ain’t different,I am sticking with Hillary because I know in my heart she will not do wrong to minorities and the country in general.

Posted by: John Smith, Atlant GA | January 25, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

You guys are all WRONG…..
Election 2008
Once again, the Democrat voters and voters in general, are going to let the Republican Party dictates how they should vote. The “Fear Tactic” was use in the 2004 election and now in 2008, it is the “Likeability Tactic”.
The Republicans Party knows they will lose if Hillary R. Clinton wins the democratic nomination. They are also aware they will win if Senator Obama wins.
Yes, we all know Senator Obama is more likeable than Senator Clinton and Senator Edwards but what does that means when it comes to voting for the candidate to become our next President?
Republican Party’s Likeability Tactics:
Dictate to voters, whether democrats, independents, and republicans for that matter who’s thinking of jumping ship, to vote democratic by using Senator Obama as a decoy to distort the voters’ choice.
Mitt Romney alluded to this tactic in the latest Republican’s debate. He said the Republicans Party is ready and excited to run against Hillary Clinton and they (Republicans) know the American people don’t want the Clintons to run the country again. They want the American People to like the idea of casting their vote for Senator Obama rather than Senator Clinton or Senator Edwards because Senator Obama seems/appears more likeable than Senator Clinton and Senator Edwards by democrats, independents and by republicans as well. I heard someone said “He (Senator Obama) will be the nominee that can bridge the gap in the parties division”. No one can bridge that gap because both parties have different agendas and values. They see the country in a different way from a different binocular. Therefore, there’s no bridge to gap and there’s no reaching across the isle. The Republican party is belligerent when it comes to making decision that will benefit them not to benefit the Democratic party.
The Republican Party knows if they put enough support behind Obama, he will mostly get nominated and it will be a win for them come November.
This is the reason why you see Obama is receiving a lot of support from Republicans alike in these caucuses and primaries.
The Media as well is biting on this tactic by displaying the likeability factor of Senator Obama in the campaign trail. The more likeable he is the more publicity he will get and the more the name Obama will resonate with voters.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not lack of confidence that an African American cannot become President of this great nation. Furthermore, I’m not alluding that Senator Obama should not win the nomination of the Democratic Party but due to his lack of experience in the Senate and/or in politic, the Republicans will use that factor against him to become victorious come November election of 2008. I’m not saying Senator Clinton is the right choice neither, but she can sustain the blows from the Republican Party. People seem to forget Senator John Edward is also running. He’s a capable individual as well who can do a better job than both Obama and Clinton. What I’m saying is voters need to wake up and be smart when it comes to voting for any candidate in this election. Our great nation is facing the greatest threat and it’s not a terrorist threat; it is the threat of self-defeat. We are defeating ourselves which is the reason why we’re becoming more vulnerable to terrorist around the world. They are attacking us when we’re at our weakest moment. Let’s be smart and vote consciously. Pick a candidate that you know can do the job and not a candidate you think can do the job.
Vote for a candidate you trust will be a factor in the upcoming election and not fresh meat for the Republican Party to use as a treat. Choose a candidate that will sustain against all of the Republican Party bullying. Make a choice you know that’s right and not one you think is the right thing to do.
Kerson L. Raymond

Posted by: Kerson Raymond | January 25, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm

The foot soldiers have written a new song for the Obama campaign and the Nation. Check it out at http://www.myspace.com/bergevinbrothersmusic . Performers include Pearl Jam drummer Matt Cameron, and Reverend Pat Wright with her Total Experience Gospel Choir, from Seattle, WA. Move beyond.

Posted by: Bergevin Brother | January 26, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am

You can all say what you want, but in the end, you all (whites) will not vote for Obama for President. You claim the Clintons are using race,which you all like which gives you a reason not to vote for Hillary, because you all claim she is playing dirty, and in the end you won’t vote for Obama, because he is Black.

Posted by: Clarence | January 26, 2008, 4:28 am 4:28 am

Whilst the Clinton’s War Room tactics may appear to some as working, people will soon get tired of the petulant fighting, and will fail for Clinton in the long run. But was The Patriot the best film to use as an example; a film ridden with historical inaccuracies?

Posted by: Sophie | January 26, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

Well I see the Clintons know Tony Rezko , and they was yelling at Obama! The Clintons will Deny anything till we get Picture proof, you could say! Im just amazed on how alot of Americans can be fooled by them!

Posted by: Listen Up | January 26, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am

Sorry to correct you Listen Up… the proper verb/tense there should’ve been (they were yelling at Obama) instead of “they was”. I hope you’re not mad at me for doing this….
Peace & Love

Posted by: KLR | January 26, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Obama will win in SC because all of the blacks will vote for the black candidate. Iowa voted for Obama in their primary because they don’t know any black people personally, so they bought into the media image of the smart funny black guy in their favorite commercial, and the sensible black guy who lives next to the white dufus in their favorite sitcom.

Posted by: coonie | January 26, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

Senators Clinton and Obama have almost identical voting records, policy platforms and were both rated as being 97% partisan (i.e. voting with their party. The reason for all this acrimony is that each side had to dig deep to find an actual difference. Although I support Hillary, based on her experience, I will not participate in any negative campaigning or blogging against Obama. He is a good man. The main advantage to America in electing Hillary is that she is extremely well-versed on all the important issues. A Clinton Obama ticket would win the election and give us a progressive administration for eight years, after which Obama will become president for another two terms, and we can repair all the damage both globally and domestically wrought by the Bush administration.

Posted by: mesagero | January 26, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

Race is irrelevant to most white democrats whom I know. Obama is a fine leader but he needs more experience in Washington and in the world. He would make a great Vice President now, and a great President in 2012.

Posted by: mesagero | January 26, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

Sorry but this is an awful Political analysis. The reasons the Clintons are using these dirty tactics is because THEY WORK. Kerry took the High road as this Author suggested and it Cost him the election.
Obama needs to counter attack and HIT THE CLINTONS back hard…… How to do this?…… I should be charging for this but all they need to do is bring out the Ghost of MOINCA LEWINSKY and all of Bill Clintons lies during that time…… they ask the people “Why would you listen/believe anything these Clintons tell you? They even LIE TO EACH OTHER!!”
This tactic will Marginalize the Clintons Tactics of trying to Paint Obama as the “Black Candidate” and use this label to scare WHitey america and win Hillary the nomination.
I am wondering if this columnist is on the Clinton Machine by recommending a tactic to Obama that will surely cause his Candidacy to fail?

Posted by: The Savvy One | January 26, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

I am black but find the feuding between the Obama and Clintons very pathetic. Yet, I still believe the best chance America has to recover from the disastrous policies of the current administration lies with the Clintons. If anything I am more convinced only the Clintons can get us out of our current mess. Bill did it with Bush senior, Hillay can do it with Bush junior. It would be a catastrophe for America to place anyone besides the Clintons ask an amateur to do a professional job.

Posted by: James | January 26, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

The last time I checked, we were The United States of America, not the Divided States of America. I have 16 years active duty in the Military, Normally vote Republican, but let’s look at some things. The bickering is disgraceful, John Edwards got that right. I personally think Hillary Clinton, Obama, or Edwards may possibly make a great President. It may be time for change or something refreshing. I am a white male, so what, I have Hispanic, Black, Asian American friends. America is strong because we are a mix of the entire world. Why does the Press turn this into a racial thing. We all have our own talents and agendas, but let’s not show the world our ass by becoming divided. They are all good speakers and I give them all a thumbs up in the competition. This is the 21st Century, I am all for a black or woman as President, let’s stop living in the 1800′s. Those were hard times. Focus on Americas issues. Only Americans can save America. The world may hate us, but they sure like coming to this country and living off of us. I can go on and on, bottom line, It is time to bury racism and stick to the issues.
Mike the Marine.

Posted by: Mike | January 26, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

Barack Obama is no
“Mr. Bojangles”.
Nor is he the white
huckster currently trying to divide and conquer along race lines.
If Clintons win the nomination,
it won’t be so easy to glue
everything back together as
they assume.

Posted by: bluecollarbytes | January 27, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am

80% of the black voters in the SC Primary told the exit pollers that they voted for Obama. The other 20% lied.

Posted by: coonie | January 27, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

I think we are seeing double standard here. If the Obama side does something negative, very little coverage. But if Hillary did something negative it is called below the belt. Politics is dominated by men and one of them is Ted Kennedy who thinks he is the God Father of democrats. WOMEN when are you going to stand for yourself. It is time that woman’s contribution to this country be recognize.

Posted by: NDM | January 30, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

OBAMA HAS RUN HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN ON LIES!
WILL WRIGHT SPEW “GOD DAMN AMERICA” FROM OUR WHITE HOUSE?
What is the most important “right” granted to U.S. citizens? THE RIGHT TO VOTE!!!
A GROUP OF “POLITICIANS” (including Obama) ARE TAKING IT AWAY FROM MILLIONS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN!!!
WE NEED TO COUNT THE “PEOPLE’S VOTES” — NOT THE “DELEGATES”.
IF OUR REPRESENTATIVES DON’T LISTEN TO US — WE NEED TO VOTE THEM OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
WE DON’T NEED A RADICAL, ANTI-AMERICAN IN OUR HIGHEST OFFICE. OBAMA HAS TOLD TOO MANY LIES. He has too many anti-Jewish, Anti-white, Anti-American and terrorist friends and associates.
HILLARY 2008.

Posted by: REPLACE CONGRESS! | May 27, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am

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