Tough-Guy Politics on the Vegas Strip

Please read the full text of the lawsuit before you write about this situation.
Your above article shows that you clearly have not done so. The plaintiffs are alleging that what was agreed to is not what is in fact being carried out, and that the caucus rules for the casino sites have been wrongly changed since the agreement.
Please try to use primary sources when writing an article about a complicated lawsuit.

Hillary and her cronies are shameless

JohnH: find, then why wasn’t this lawsuit filed BEFORE the Culinary Workers Union endorsed Obama (bravely I might add since it was after NH). Sorry, this doesn’t pass the smell test.

All you Hillary bashers need to drop it. The Obama campaign plays the race card at every criticism. Puh – and may I add – lease!

There are no grounds for this lawsuit. In every state, county, and city, there differences in population density that cause a greater turnout in specific areas. As well, people often vote at a location closer to their work, rather than driving home to vote closer to home. This is a ridiculous lawsuit.

And right after her getting trounced in Iowa, Hillary trashed that state saying that their caucus system did not allow everyone to attend because so many had to work in the evening! What a hypocrite.

Hillary and Bill are shameless – suing only AFTER the Culinary Worker union endorses Obama? And the petty underhanded attacks by a former president on a rising star of the Democratic party are shocking. Hillary and Bill only care about themselves – period.

Obama is a product of the Chicago’s Daley Machine, one of the oldest and most corrupt political organizations in the history of mankind. He’s no “uniter.”
The media has obligation to more fully explore and report on Obama’s lack of record on the issue of “change” in Chicago and Illinos. This guy is a major con man.

Well, considering she has one hour with Russert tomorrow and a Nevada debate on Tuesday, I hope she comes up with a solid answer.
As has been stated above, she came out of her Iowa caucus loss complaining that the system wasn’t fair as shift workers couldn’t attend. It seems that the Nevada caucus system does otherwise. The only choices Sen. Clinton has is to either take a stand against the Nevada lawsuit or say she lied coming out of Iowa. Or this part of her “true voice,” after 60 years, suddenly discovered in New Hampshire???

Isn’t a party caucus essentially a political party meeting? What does Nevada state law say? Why would a state political party meeting be covered by federal election law?

Good move by Hillary. She got surrogates to file to try to keep her fingerprints off of this suit. It obviously never would have been filed had she had the union endorsement. Go google “hillary uncensored” to see about another lawsuit in which she is involved.

When the Clintons backs are to the wall they will do anything to win. They care so little about the county. Its all about the Clintons!

The Clintons have no legitimacy when they criticize Repub voter tactics; they’re just swimming in the same cesspool. Isn’t the whole point to let the voters decide? Using the same tactics that speak to a fear of losing POWER.
I’m voting for Barack Obama.

Hillary is NOT trustworthy. I’m for ABH — Anyone But Hillary!

I don’t know why whenever Obama’s false “hope”, empty speeches and questionable record got criticized, there are always those brothers and sisters coming out crying racism, and then they attack Bill and Hillary.
Well, let me tell you this: in Bill and Hillary, I see black. I see they are more concerned about black issues than any black person ever ran for President; in Obama, I see white. This is not just me. Go to ask Jesse Jackson, he also see “Obama behaves white”. Believe me, Jesse knows what white is when he sees one.
Why should we support a person that the only similarity between him and us is the skin color? Should we support someone who really cares about us, cares about the issues that are important to us? Should we trust someone who has a track record that helped to make us equal politically and economically to anybody else in the American society? Or should we trust someone who shares our skin color but behaves white, and the only thing that he has ever delivered is empty specches?
It is your choice. But mine is very clear and simple.

Read what she did in New Hampshire to remove Obama pollsters.
I am very disturbed by these tactics. Obama does not know what he is in for.
This is why the party is in trouble if she is nominated. She is too divisive and polarizing to beat the republicans. Too many people will vote for McCain if he gets the nomination because he seems more honest.

Just because Obama himself doesn’t cry “race”, doesn’t mean it isn’t coming from him. Who runs his campaign? Doesn’t he have the final say? The “race card” was played originally by the Obama camp.
Did Hillary file the suit? No. So why are you blaming Hillary? It is really easy to blame Hillary…the media has been blaming Hillary for everything.
Don’t you see how manipulated you already have become?
FYI: I am not a Hillary supporter. I also do not support Barack. He is smoke and mirrors. A true product of the Daley machine. He has no regard for anyone who disagrees with him. He doesn’t answer questions if he doesn’t feel like it. This comes from first- hand experience. He is not the person i want to run this nation. He is as bush-lite as the rest of them. And plays as dirty as anyone.

Wow, people in Florida would love this kind of attention for their primary!

CLINTON=Prison Guard Politics

Hilary, is a war monger. How many Iraqis are homeless now beccause of her vote. Yes she voted for it. Yes she is accountable for all these deaths and our debt. Now teh Clinton machine is blocking the poorest of the poor to vote in Nevada. Just think if these workers strike in Nevada. What will happen to all those Dems and Repubs who make money off of their backs. Shame to Dem party for allowing these garbage tacttics by the Dem machine. We are done if this happens. No real 2 party solution Just upper class tokens bs-ing us!

I just spent quite some time reading the law suit and this looks like an attempt to disenfranchise Nevada voters. It gives clear preference to the Culinary workers, by placing all the at large caucus sites on the strip.
It violates the election laws in Nevada. And who the culinary workers endorsed is secondary to the blatant attempt to call the election for whomever they endorsed. Dont think that the Obama campaign would not have issues if the endorsement had not gone to him. Please read the lawsuit before you slam candidates. In fact I am very surprised that Obama is not enraged as this could look like they are fixing the election for him.

Does anyone think that this big law suit would have been filed without Hillary’s blessing?

Please read this lawsuit, as voters of any party or any candidate we should be concerned when the deck is shuffled to give one group of voters more preference. This gets into the delegate counting etc… Other areas in Nevada will be short changed in the delegate count. Read the lawsuit. Your candidate preference should never favor questionable election law infractions

As a non-partisan voter I can tell you I would never vote for Clinton or Obama. Hillary is as unethical as Billy Bob was and Obama is a typical Daley Democrat. Chicago is one of the most corrupt cities in the country thanks to organized labor and its ties to criminals and Democrats. Term limits would get rid of unsavory people like Richard Daley, Ted Kennedy and Harry Reid, the best politicians money cn buy.

Same tactics Bush used in FL in 2000.
This is a naked attempt at voter suppression.
Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton is not going to happen.

So will she have to sue her way to the oval office?? Before you vote think about this: !!! How many US soldiers were killed when Bill Clinton was in office?? We didn’t get constant death tolls the way we do now, so you probably haven’t seen these numbers before: 1993-1996 a total of 4,417 military deaths occurred during these four Bill Clinton years.

Hillary is taking a play from John Kerry when the Dems tried to supress the military vote in Florida. I would hope that people are smart enough to reject Hillary but it does not seem that way. The gangsters of the 1920′s had their fans also – Go Figure.

Best way to solve the problem is for everyone to vote for Edwards.

My wife and I have been pulling for Hillary all this time, but this has really hurt our feelings towards her. How could she do something so despicable?? I don’t care how much experience she claims to have. Those words are now worthless to us. My 2nd choice has always been Edwards and his anti-corporate, anti-lobby rhetoric and now I’m supporting him. My wife is undecided but she says she surely won’t vote for Hillary or anyone that does anything this mean, I’m sure she’ll go with Obama now.

Both sides reached the NV caucus agreement a year ago. Now that the Culinary Union endorsed Obama now its a problem? I wish the Hillary supporters would see she is so polarizing and destructive. This is really low.

This arrangement was ratified in March 2007, why didnt anyone raise an eyebrow before now?
Well, they thought it was going to be a walk in the path picking the nomination!
Now that they feel there is competition, they must reach into their back pack of tricks to ensure “victory at all cost” by disenfranchising workers who hitherto would not have been able to exercise their civic rights to vote safe for this newly thought out arrangement.
Thanks for playing politics yet again with the future of Americans.

Yeah – do you think the Clintons would have been so concerned with at large voting sites had they received the endorsement from the culinary workers union? Somehow, I doubt it. That’s rotten, lawyer, status-quo politics from the Clintons. Very sad.

we don;t want voter fruad someone else thrwing in votes who don;t live ther in that state, so I agree with Hillary

All these anti Hillary coments are disgusting. She’s not doing anything that Obama wouldn’t do if they table was turned. He’d be filing suit, you can bet on that! I don’t think giving special consideration to a group of people…poor disinfranchised people or not…is the right way to go for american politics. Why don’t we give special consideration to every other poor disinfranchised group of people? They have a civic responsibility to go and vote and if the process as a whole is unfair then extend the hours….but don’t set up “special” places just for them!!! If you want to see change in america…put a blouse in the house and a voting democratic majority in the congress!!

Yeah – Agreed. The Clinton supporters throw out lots of accusations without a single example of slimy tactics from the Obama campaign. But the Hillary supporters do use lots of exclamation points: “He HATES FREEDOM people!!!!!!!”

I can’t imagine four years Obama’s race baiting nonsense.
First we see Michelle Obama on national television spouting that blacks will “wake up and get it” and vote for her husband simply because he black, which insults every African American. Even highly liberal National Public Radio sharply criticized that attempt by the Obama campaign to play the race card.
Now we have his minion Al Sharpton out this week created a race riot over use of the phrase “fairy tale” to describe a position of Obama’s. Wow. Hardly racist.
Where is Obama the “uniter?” Well, he’s standing on the sidelines delightfully fueling the impending race riot (of which he thinks he will benefit from) with statements about how many black leaders have supposedly called him to express “outrage” that someone would describe his position as a “fairy tale.” Hogwash. His campaign is clearly dying to play the race card and is looking for anything, including “fairy tale,” to pounce on.
How divisive this attitude would be in the White House. If someone disagrees with an Obama agenda item, it will inevitably always be because of race. You either worship him and agree with him — or you’re a racist. This is NOT the direction we should be moving in this country.
Obama is a major con man, but what did we expect — he’s a product of the highly corrupt Daley Machine out of Chicago.

Obviously, the Culinary Workers should have endorsed Hillary. Then these 36,000 poor workers wouldn’t have to be disenfranchised by a late rule change by Clinton surrogates.
And Hillary wouldn’t have had to reveal her hypocrisy.
PATHETIC & patently transparent voter suppression. Let’s HOPE, the court throws this out.
Hopefully, Tim Russert will bring this up tomorrow on MTP. Can’t wait for HRC’s answer.
This move is desperate and this story will have a major impact on the undoing of her campaign. BLOWBACK!

I thought HRC wanted more people to be able to vote, it would seem that allowing people to vote at their places of work would bring more people into the process. Her supporters’ attempts to block this reeks of hypocrisy. If she believes in her message/agenda, she should have nothing to fear! This seems like more of the same divisive politics and I’m sick of it. Vote for Change, Obama ’08!

I think the most beautiful thing about this article is that it reports things directly contrary to what the other news outlets are reporting. Which is that none of the people suing have donated money to the Clinton campaign, and that the teacher’s union hasn’t endorsed a candidate. Though actually no, you don’t say that the union supports Hillary, you point out that somewhere down the chain of command there is a woman from the major teachers’ union in Nevada, who supports Clinton. This is biased reporting at its best.

Ken, you wrote: “Go to ask Jesse Jackson, he also see “Obama behaves white”. Believe me, Jesse knows what white is when he sees one.” YET, Rev. Jackson is supporting Sen. Obama! Go figure!

For anyone thinking that the campaigns just sat on this for months, if you look at the articles about the Nevada caucus, as of late November (the first article that appears on Google), nobody new where these at-large precincts were going to be and how they were going to be defined.
For those who want to say that for
ex: The Harry Reid Machine railroaded the idea of a Caucus through the NSDP State Central Committee
and read that as support for Hillary, think again, RORY Reid has come out supporting Hillary. Harry Reid hasn’t gone either way. Still keep in mind that Hillary’s major supporters have always been the working class (aka exactly who gets DISADVANTAGED by a caucus because you have to sit around for hours instead of voting and leaving).

So much for Obama being the world’s uniter. But this strategy of racial diviseness is going to backfire. No way do American’s want to go through an Obama adminstration’s alarmist racial garbage day after day. “Fairy tale” to describe an Obama position is hardly racist. YES WE CAN win the nomination by fanning the flames of racism seems to have become the Obama campaign’s new mantra.

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For anyone thinking that the campaigns just sat on this for months, if you look at the articles about the Nevada caucus, as of late November (the first article that appears on Google), nobody new where these at-large precincts were going to be and how they were going to be defined.
For those who want to say that for
ex: The Harry Reid Machine railroaded the idea of a Caucus through the NSDP State Central Committee
and read that as support for Hillary, think again, RORY Reid has come out supporting Hillary. Harry Reid hasn’t gone either way. Still keep in mind that Hillary’s major supporters have always been the working class (aka exactly who gets DISADVANTAGED by a caucus because you have to sit around for hours instead of voting and leaving).

Don’t settle on voting Obama! Look, Hillary isn’t behind it. Even Tapp’s report was honest enough to admit that Hillary didn’t show that she’s behind it. Hillary is okay with what is fair. But DO watch out for Obama, he’s very serpentine. All this excessive targetting and putting down of Hillary, you think Obama isn’t behind it?? At least he’s content to ride this “wave” isn’t he?
Obama has nothing to do with change, his reference to “change” is only a matter of political rhetoric. He’s as status quo as they come.

Now their campaign strategy is coming straight out of the Karl Rove playbook where tearing people down, rigging where people vote, mischaracterization of statements, and sneaky tricks like her crying, are to subtract the issues from the discussion. You can picture Rove chuckling to himself all week after that crying episode.
Hillary will continue bringing war to politics, if she can overcome every joker with a pick-up and gun rack who will come out of the woodwork just to vote against her in the general election.
Most Republicans in Congress would love to spend the next four years continuing the open war on Hillary by rallying partisan warfare on any vote to create an atmosphere of highly charged hate.
For everyone’s best interests, I challenge you to analyze each candidate’s stance on the issues, and carefully consider where we are headed. These problems are complex and will require a great deal of cooperation. Clearly we need Obama to come in and unite this country. It’s time to end the stubborn, cold war in our politics.

Brady, actually I was just pointing out the fact that Ken’s comment was rather odd since the Rev. Jackson is supporting Sen. Obama. I am not a supporter of Sen. Obama. In fact, I am a conservative Republican who proudly supports drafting Dr. Condoleezza Rice to be the Republican nominee.

WOW!…..Glad I’m not a Democrat..Yikes!

Obama promised us “change” in Illinois too — but failed to deliver anything. He has NEVER inititated or supported the kind of fundamental changes that would improve our lives or rid Illinois of the politics as usual that has crippled it. On the contrary, he has supported, and benefited politically and financially from our corrupt system here.
The media has an obligation to provide a more insightful and meaningful exploration of Obama’s record — or rather lack of a record – on the issue of “change” in Chicago and Illinois.
Obama is El Con Man Supremo.

Make me scare now .Now my vote goes to obama!

I’m certain the lawsuit will be thrown out. See those CLINTONS, she would do anything to win, it’s sad. She knows the chances of her losing Nevada are great, so she is doing what ever she can to stop it. She Knows if Obama wins Nevada and SC, its over for her. The odds are not for her. So she and her supporters are trying hard to play nasty. These rules have been in place since August. Now you complain a week before after you lost the endorsement.

I am always impressed with smart Americans! The Clintons brought these same people to Washington to clean up the last republican mess! I hope more Americans ‘work smarter, not harder’ as we have heard Billy quote in the past. Way to go teachers, where are the health professionals? Hillary ’08

Now I know why Karl Rove has been indirectly endorsing Hilary. David Brook of NYT said it best yesterday. Bush/Cheney think among all candidates Hilary is most likely to follow their footsteps. In past 2 weeks Clintons have managed to erase all the great memories I had of them. They helped me make up my mind. I AM 100% voting Obama now!

Thanks, Mars, for clarifying things. I hope you e-mailed ABC and asked them to be more comprehensive and accurate in covering their story.
I agree with some bloggers here. I think the media is playing with Democrats and Independents ambiguities and divisiveness.

Just because Obama himself doesn’t cry “race”, doesn’t mean it isn’t coming from him. Who runs his campaign? Doesn’t he have the final say? The “race card” was played originally by the Obama camp.
Did Hillary file the suit? No. So why are you blaming Hillary? It is really easy to blame Hillary…the media has been blaming Hillary for everything.
Don’t you see how manipulated you already have become?
FYI: I am not a Hillary supporter. I also do not support Barack. He is smoke and mirrors. A true product of the Daley machine. He has no regard for anyone who disagrees with him. He doesn’t answer questions if he doesn’t feel like it. This comes from first- hand experience. He is not the person i want to run this nation. He is as bush-lite as the rest of them. And plays as dirty as anyone.

I guess crying wasn’t going to work so sueing was the next best option.

It appears that Obama does not care about the teachers’ votes. Only the delegates that are assigned to every 5 people. What a big hit to our hard working teachers.

first off, Obama is not a Muslim, he’s a Christian. His dad was a Muslim from Kenya. You’re just buying the radical right slur attacks wholesale. Do a little research on your own. As far as your “those people” comment, could that sound any more racist?

Typical of Hillary – say one thing and do another. She wants the public to have the vote but if it looks like they might vote in the opposite direction, take their vote away from them. She is a disgrace. A two faced disgrace.

This is so terrible. Is this how far the Clintons’ll go to grap the nomination?
The Democratic party is doing everything to encourage voter turn out and participation and the Clintons are doing just the opposite simply bc such doesnt favor them.This is the apex of power hungry and political system assasination.
Obama has turned up voter participation in most of the states and thanks to that anxiety Hillary secured a win in NH.
Now she wants to cut off the bridge after crossing. I think americans should reject the Clinton campaign totally.This is un-American.

I would like to take this opportunity to punish Mrs. Hillary Clinton for her besotted dirty tactics. To get immediately to the point, Hillary wonders why a lot hates her. Apparently, she never stopped to think that maybe it’s because her staff and representatives are like an enormous Stalinism-spewing machine. We must begin dismantling that structure. We must put a monkey wrench in its gears. And we must deal with Hillary appropriately because if Hillary doesn’t like it here, then perhaps she should go elsewhere. Hillary’s lousy, clumsy half-measures were forged in the crucible of frotteurism. But even if we disregard all that and examine only Hillary’s presumptuous actions, this seems to me to be enough to show that whenever Hillary is blamed for conspiring to exhibit a deep disdain for all people who are not unsavory scoundrels, she blames her representatives. Doing so reinforces their passivity and obedience and increases their guilt, shame, terror, and conformity, thereby making them far more willing to help Hillary give me reason to lose my temper.

Prince Charming wants to divide the Nevada democratic party by these special voting concessions to his union voters, while the rest of the democratic voters follow the prescribed process. Obama is a Divider, not a Uniter.
I suggest his slogan from now on be:
“The Great Divider”

This certainly doesn’t look good for the Hillary folks. If one were to go to the state Democratic website and follow the link to the state caucus rules, the plan was overwhelmingly passed and submitted to not only each candidates campaign, but also to the state Attorney General, with plenty of time to raise any objections to the plan. Now all of a sudden several of those who previously approved the plan and happen to be supporters of Hillary’s find objection to it as soon as those it most affects endorses Senator Obama. Folks, if you believe Hillary’s national campaign doesn’t have a hand in this maneuver, you’re probably looking for ocean front property in Nevada.

I love how Harry Reid’s plan backfired… Now Hillary REALLY has something to cry about! If I were a Nevada resident, I would demand a primary and scrap the whole caucus idea.

From t- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
he couple that brought us this:
Did you really expect anything else?!

Its just one low down dirty gutter scam after another with this female. isn’t it?
My god, has she and her friends no shame?
History will show the last twenty years of the Whitehouse just filled with corrupt and twisted politicians. Hillary is clearly extending that dark period in American history by adding her name to the roll of shame.
She and her campaign are a cross country disgrace.

All the Clintons care about is power. They have never cared for minorities-it was always a phony show. Now, all America sees them for the closet racists they are. Go Obama, go!

I’m not surprised at all that the Clinton supporters are rigging the election. Usually that accusation is hurled at republicans only, but Obama is ruining Clinton’s coronation and as usual, Clintons and their minions are eager to disenfranchise anyone who won’t succumb to the Clinton charm.

Maybe she should just cry about it again and then she’ll get her way.

What a surprise!There she is again, using her tricky law suits and corrupted connections to silence the voice of the voters.America wake up!

If Clinton had gotten the support from the unions they would have been lauding the effort to make sure these workers could be heard. All this will do is force a sympathy for Obama, what happened to try to win on the issues?

I am a lawyer and I read the Complaint. Here is why the lawsuit is meritless. The fact is any Nevada resident who will be 18 by ELECTION DAY (not necessarly Caucus Day) can caucus in ANY CAUCUS LOCATION — EVEN IF THEY GO TO THE WRONG ONE! So, the allegation in the lawsuit that even custodians at schools who set up caucus sites can’t vote is wrong. The employees at the location can vote AT THAT LOCATION EVEN IF THEY DON’T LIVE IN THAT PRECINCT! SO there is nothing unfair about setting up extra “At Large” caucus sites that, theoretically, ANY Nevada resident can vote at! Personally, I think this lawsuit is disgusting and really turns me off to Hillary who seems to represent old style back-room politics at its worst. And then to have the Clinton Campaign disavow a connection to the lawsuit is laughable! The Republicans can’t wait to run against her. I am supporting Barack Obama! He is the real deal America!

Hillary Clinton is becoming the most devisive candidate in history — women vs men; old vs young; blacks vs whites; hispanics vs blacks. Now she’s sounding like a union buster. She and her husband are damaging the Democratic party. The Clintons need to bow out gracefully and let the nation move on to a better future.

What can one say?
“It takes a village to suppress the vote.”
HRC’s people should stop this NOW. The answer to allegedly “unfair” access to some voters is not to bring an action a week before the vote to make it unfairly discriminatory from the opposite direction. These people are truly disgusting.

If there was anything objectenable in by having casino voters vote in their own caucus- why was the suit brought by clinton associates only AFTER major endorsements were made favoring Obama, NOT BEFORE. Why does HRC decry that the caucus in Iowa do not allow people who work, the ability to participate. THIS is only about one thing- the Clinton campaign is sorely against the rights of people who may vote against her- ie- HRC IS AGAINST DEMOCRACY THAT WORKS. If she does win the nomination, this red blood american voter will vote against her.

I cant believe that someone who claims to want to unite the country is allowing such a divisive tactic. Why isnt this being brought to the headlines. This is more important than watching perhaps the greatest performance to play on and woo the women voters emotions seen over and over again. Talking about a free ride from the media! These polling stations were approved last year, if there were any objections, then, not now would have been the time to express them. Would Clinton’s folks be doing this had they received the endorsement? Or perhaps a better question is; Do you think that Obama would employ this divisive tactic had he not received the endorsement? I dont think he would. Shame on Clinton, I think this scratches her from my list of potential candidates I would vote for!!

Wait a minute everybody! There are some important issues that need to be addressed here.
Perhaps the most important, do we really want our employers and coworkers knowing whom we support – maybe some or even many of us do; but what about those for whom the separation between politics and the workplace is inviolate. What about them? I don’t live in a caucus state but my understanding is that by holding them in neighborhoods or in public buildings people from various walks of life come together to stand up for their candidates – I’m thinking that their bosses and nosy coworkers are not necessarily there taking down names. I’m surprised that Obama doesn’t see the proposal for workplace caucusing as having a chilling effect on privacy and the workplace.
The other objectionable aspect of this article is how slanted it is. So what if local people who support Hilary Clinton are pursuing this lawsuit. The courts seem the obvious place for this important issue to receive the full airing that it deserves. It doesn’t take someone as brilliant as Obama to understand why he and his campaign couldn’t possibly object to this proposal and are afraid of the court’s scrutiny because he’s been endorsed by the casino employees but appears to be less concerned about possible retaliation toward and harassment against those who oppose him.
ABC show some balance in what you report. Like give us some details and analysis of the lawsuit. Find some experts who can examine this issue the way the court will.

Dear twinmom48,
How can anyone know whom we’re voting for??? When I enter a voting booth, there is no one in there with me and there is no one looking over my shoulder! Relax and calm down on that point.
Another thing, the heads of any organization can tell anyone else whom they support, that don’t mean every voter is just gong to go along with what they say. Again, they are not in the voting booth with me, watching me make a mark on my ballot paper.
The BIG and IMPORTANT point is that Hillary and Co when they didn’t get the support they lobbied for and wanted, they decided to be down-right UNDEMOCRATIC and go to a court house to try and say that the system wasn’t fair!!!
1. It is fair. It allows each individual worker to vote.
2. It was her party that brought this system in!!!
3. She is trying to deny the ordinary working voters, their vote and subsequent “voice”.
She ought to hang her head low and be ashamed of herself. No wonder she don’t want to talk about it now. Its a pure disgrace ans shows EXACTLY just how much high regard she and her gang has for the public of America and their voting voices.
Its just disgraceful!

I’m voting for ABH! Anyone But Hilary!!! I am a female and registered Independent. My Dem choice is Barack, if Hilary wins the nomination I will vote Republican no matter who the nominee is. Hilary is only personally and professionally motivated. She is motivated by power. She plays the gender card and is polarizing. She claims 35 years of experience but yet can’t point to any particular thing that she has done to make a massive, lasting or critical “change”. She will say or do anything. Her claims are empty. The most importnat quality our President can have is the ability to bring people together. They need to be able to form a great team and lead that team. Barack will be a great leader. Hilary is polarizing. ABH!!

This is quintessential Clinton: wait to see which side the union endorses, then sue to stop them from voting at work if they don’t choose her. Typical slimy, lawyer politics as usual. How could we expect anything different? The Clintons learned from the GOP.

Clinton has alot of experience – of REWRITING HISTORY! No shame from the Clinton’s! I do not want dishonest people in the White House, especially our President! All people are included in Obama’s Hope and Vision message. Whereas the Clinton’s are working the Rove/Washington D.C. PLAYBOOK TO A ‘T’. VOTE FOR OBAMA! BY THE WAY, I AM WHITE MALE AM OFFENDED BY THE CLINTON’S TACTICS! LOW, VERY LOW OF THEM…I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR THEM IF THEY MAKE IT TO THE GENERAL ELECTIONS.

The big turnoff is that the unions expect the American public to believe anyone has a choice in who they vote for in an open caucus at a union workplace. Be real. And Obama is against lobbying? They influence? This is going way back to the notorious Chicago politics. I believe in unions, but who I vote for is my business, not the business of union supervisors where I work. Who would be the precinct captains for Clinton and Edwards? They all work there, they all belong to the union.

That woman is poison. If she gets the nod Dems we will be calling another Republican president. I saw her on Meet the Press. She spent the whole hour not answering direct questions and knee-capping Obama. I cannot stand her. She comes off as a compete flake. I know I will not vote if she gets the nod.

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I note that the moderators on this thread have been going through and deleting the pro-hillary posts and leaving the off-topic off color anti-hillary rants (I’ve been following since last night and several explanatory poss as to what the suit is about are GONE)
For those who don’t know this case is ACTUALLY about the fact that these at-large precincts get a rep for every 5 voters while regular precincts get one for every 50. Also only shift workers in the strip get to go to the caucus at the at-large caucus spots (conveniently only at cu controlled casinos). All 9 of at-large districts are in the same county and so are distributed to ignore all the casino workers elsewhere, like say Reno. It’s obviously an attempt to rig the system.
The teachers are suing because they’re working the caucus because the caucuses are held a schools and someone has to open them. They can vote during the caucus because since its a caucus you have to be physically present the entire time to vote.
To the person pretending to be a lawyer: you’re obviously not because despite you claim that anyone can go…it flat out says that you have to present ID proving you’re a shift worker
For anyone thinking that the campaigns just sat on this for months, if you look at the articles about the Nevada caucus, as of late November (the first article that appears on Google), nobody new where these at-large precincts were going to be and how they were going to be defined.
For those who want to say that for
ex: The Harry Reid Machine railroaded the idea of a Caucus through the NSDP State Central Committee
and read that as support for Hillary, think again, RORY Reid has come out supporting Hillary. Harry Reid hasn’t gone either way. Still keep in mind that Hillary’s major supporters have always been the working class (aka exactly who gets DISADVANTAGED by a caucus because you have to sit around for hours instead of voting and leaving).

Kate, you wrote: “How can anyone know whom we’re voting for??? When I enter a voting booth, there is no one in there with me and there is no one looking over my shoulder!”
What you describe takes place in a primary. But Nevada is holding caucuses. Traditionally, in a caucus the people break up into groups that support a particular candidate. IF there is an insufficient number of supporters for a candidate (the number of individuals for that candidate’s group fails to meet the 15% threshold for that particular caucus) then these individuals either go home or choose to support another candidate. This is not a secret vote.

The Clinton Swiftboat Tactics Escalate to Smear Obama
Clintons’ campaign tactics, right out of Carl, Dick and George playbook, have been pretty shocking of late.
We’re talking events of a week and Clintons have the audacity to feed recent, uh, days-old, hours-old events to the Revise-History, Scorch-Earth, Didn’t-Inhale Machine? And who’s coming to dinner? Bob who?
So, last week, during the NH primary campaign when they were feeling pretty desperate with the polls and everything (you with me so far — this is true, right? Happened? We all on the same page so far?), Bill appears at a campaign event and says Obama’s story is a fairy tale. He can’t make his wife taller, make her male, make her, well, Obama, Bill whines bitterly. Bill’s very angry about this — can’t you see? You’re missing something here — read my lips, he whispers, “she’s Female, come on!”
Then, shortly after Bill’s remarks, Hillary herself says:
“Dr. King had been on the front lines. He had been leading a movement. But Dr. King understood, which is why he made it very clear, that there has to be a coming to terms of our country politically in order to make the changes that would last for generations beyond the iconic, extraordinary speeches that he gave. That’s why he campaigned for Lyndon Johnson in 1964. That’s why he was there when those great pieces of legislation were passed. Does he deserve the lion’s share of the credit for moving our country and moving our political process? Yes, he does.”
After Hillary basically says, “Hey Obama, don’t give too much credit to what Dr. Martin Luther King dreamt of — all this hope stuff is false. Yeah, let’s not have “false hopes.” I mean, MLB had to get Lyndon B. Johnson to do the real work, remember? Unlike what you think, that white man was really the one who got all the work done for your civil rights movement stuff.”
Senator Obama in the meanwhile, stays quiet. All in the meanwhile, with all these headlines going back and forth, regarding what I outlined above, Senator Obama says nada.
The news sort of talk about these remarks by the Clintons. Sort of. There are other headline news. Clinton comes first in NH, and some people think it’s because she almost cried, and she makes a speech and says, “Okay, I’ll try and cry more often folks, should’ve listened to you a bit more carefully — huh. THAT’s what you wanted?”
Senator Obama still stays quiet. All in the meanwhile, with all these headlines going back and forth, regarding what I outlined above, Senator Obama says nada.
Then, uh uh, problems for the Clintons. Clyburn, the top ranking black politician, gets angry at the Clintons’ remarks (and maybe he also got peeved at other vicious Clinton lies, e.g., Bill claiming he was against the war from the beginning when there’s undisputed evidence of speeches he gave supporting Bush on Iraq war?). “You guys being racist here?” Clyburn wonders incredulously.
Senator Obama still stays quiet. All in the meanwhile, with all these headlines going back and forth, regarding what I outlined above, Senator Obama says nada.
So, the Clintons, who desperately need the black vote, then go on radio to Al Sharpton saying, “Hey, Obama is a great guy, he can win, no, no, no, he’s no fairy tale.”
Obama, in the meanwhile, still keeps quiet.
Hillary now goes on Meet the Press and says, “It’s Obama’s fault. He’s been twisting my words, and oh my god, people, HE IS MAKING RACE AN ISSUE! AND I’M CRYING, SEE MY TEARS???”
So, Obama finally responds, “Uhm. You know, this is kinda fascinating to me. I mean, I didn’t say a word? Did anyone hear me say anything about this?”
Nope, Senator. It’s just the crazy Clintons again, and some crazy Americans believing the crap, as they do sometimes.
Sigh.

The endorsement of the Culinary Union which has 60,000 members was won by Senator Obama. What a lot of the mainstream media is not reporting is the majority of this union is Hispanic — with birthplaces from Mexico, Nicaragua and the Dominican Republic. That is good news because THEIR VOICES WILL GET TO BE HEARD, AND THEY BACKED THE CANADIATE THEY FELT BEST REPRESENTED THEM.
The BAD NEWS is that many of the hotels in order to respect this exciting democratic process are going to give these hardworking people the weekend off so they can have a chance to VOTE. LAS VEGAS HAS BEEN A POWERFUL ECONOMIC MACHINE BUT IT WOULD NOT BE A POWERFUL MACHINE WITHOUT THE PEOPLE THAT DO THE JOBS THAT SUPPORT THEM. The SUPPORTERS of THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN HAVE FILED A LAWSUIT TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING. It is a shame with ALL the power the Clintons have that they would try to silence the workers by doing something like filing suit. Those of you who honestly believe she knew NOTHING about this lawsuit, I guess still believe in Santa Claus.

People wake up!!! Nevada is not going to decide who the next candidate is. There is more primaries to come. This is one nation. Not just Neveda, let us all have a say in it.
It’s sounds like the whole Neveda Caucus is a big mess, the last mess we had 8 years ago in Florida did not play out in America’s favor.
And yes I agree with the post from Lizzie.
Barack opened the race card himself by comparing himself to MLK.
It turned it all around on Clinton, who has a right to defend what her beliefs are, if anyone has reopened old wounds it was Obama, who doesn’t answer to anyone and plays the good old Chicago Dirty politics game.
And it is sad that some black american’s are just voting for him because he is black. Now who is racist. What has he done for black america. In his 1.6 million dolar house. When a majority of blacks supported the Clintons in the ninties and now are turning our backs on them, because they are not black.
All democrates are falling right into the republicans and media’s hands. Trounce the once favorite candidate and cause a “civil war” amongst democrates.
I forecast that we will be seeing all states going red, if we keep this talk of racism going on.

Obama did not compare himself to either MLK or JFK, he merely cited them as examples. We’ve all done that; kids do that every day; rappers do it because one historical example is worth a thousand words. If Hillary reasons that to cite a historical figure is to compare yourself to him or her then she is too stupid to be a senator, much less president.