Clinton Forges Ahead After Tough Wisconsin Loss

Obama won by 114,000 votes in Wisconsin tonight. How many of those votes were Independent and Repubs voting for him to keep Hillary out of the race???
He only picks up a net gain of about 12-13 delegates, and once the big states come into play, it will be a dead heat again. Then what??

The Clinton campaign has made it clear they do not need my vote. They stated I am a “second class” delegate; red states don’t matter and I don’t really need a president because of my income. If I don’t matter to them and the majority of the US is not important to them, why should we put our trust in someone that thinks so little of us?

Hang in there Hillary! We are waiting to support you in Pennsylvania! I’m hoping that Texas, Ohio, and Rhode Island do the same. It’s time to stop the non-sense and the hype… the winds will come and blow away Obama’s air castles…

Those of you who believe it’s over for Hillary are just using wishful thinking. She can still pull even on March 4th, and leads in superdelegates and will leads in votes once Florida and Michigan are seated. Why should she concede now? If Obama had a 300-400 delegate lead I would say she should consider it , but with a 90 delegates lead, there is still much more campaigning to do. Hillary is not a quitter. When the new scandal hits about Obama and it turns out to be true, he will have to quit.
http://www.thewhitehouse.com

So what will the excuse be after Hawaii and so on and so on?

feel free to cast your vote for him. I will have my vote for Hillary! If we all hold on to our faith in our candidate and keep supporting her, he would not be able to close the gap. Why do people have to be affected by the so called momentum? Momentum is nothing but false of hope!

Lance, she doesn’t have to crush at all. She just needs to make up 90 pledged delegated. A decent margin in Ohio, Texas, & PA would put her ahead again.
The race is a long way from over. There very worst thing Mr. Obama could do, was become overconfident thinking he left Hillary Clinton for dead after tonight.

In Corpus Christ Tx, Please don’t give up on Hillary!!! She needs your support. Those of us in states who haven’t been able to participate yet are counting on those of you in Texas, Ohio, and Rhode Island to keep Hillary in the race!! It’s too dangerous for the Democrats if you don’t.

The demo breaks don’t look good for Clinton. If things progress along these lines, she may lose the pop. vote in TX and certainly it’s a near dead heat in delegates there. She needs to win OH by a big margin. RI and VT will essentially cancel out. After Mar. 4 Obama will still be up by about 70-80 pledged delegates. Clinton can’t pick that up in PA (at best a 20-30 del. pickup). Sorry to say, but the delegate tally lead will be Obama heading to convention.

Hillary Clinton will win in Texas, and Ohio! Polls here in Texas, are showing Clinton winning the primary.
John
Houston, Texas

Endorse Obama?!?!? Why on earth would that be considered? You’d definitely have McCain in the White House.

Jay – Unfortunately that’s wishful thinking. If the FL and MI del.s are seated (still a longshot), it will not be in correlation to the primary results. The only concept being put to the DNC is to seat them in a 50-50 split so they can participate, but not affect the outcome. In fact, my calculations pulled data from the wrong page. After tonight, Obama should be up by about 150 pledged delegates, so after Mar. 4, it’s more like a 90-100 del. lead. And after PA, things look to favor Obama.

Sorry Kevin, the Florida results will stand in Hillary’s favor . She won by over 300,000 votes, and now you think Obama should split them 50/50 with her. I doubt that will happen. I see at the convention there will be a 40-50 delegate separation, and then the superdelegates will nominate Hillary. Oh they will cry and scream, but I think it is the best for the country. If they don’t both go on the same ticket. McCain will win by landslides over each of them individually. Not by the merit of their own voter base, but because we all know, who ever feels slighted at the Democratic convention, all the others people will vote republican to punish their own party. Sad, but this is the way it will play out. Replace Hillary with Obama or vise-versa, it will be a disaster for the democrats. Obama may have won 10 in a row, but the democrats are still equally divided as to who they want for their President.

Hillary Clinton and her Husband Bill Clinton know how to beat the Republicans in the General elections they have a track record that proves they can beat the Republicans. If Obama wins the nomination the Republican political war machine will shred him to pieces and called him the most Liberal democrat in history and rally the Republican conservatives to vote in high numbers to defeat Obama. And if McCain hires Karl Rove to work in his campaign, Karl Rove will tear Obama to pieces and the Democrats will once again loose the White House. Obama does not have what it takes to Defeat the Republican Political War Machine.

Time to pack it in, Hillary!
Tough Loss? Obama destroyed Hillary in
Wisconsin, a tailor-made state for Hillory Clinton! Lots of Uneducated people and Senile seniors, her core
supporters!

If Barack is the nominee then McCain will cream him in the GE. No doubt about that. Democrats who are looking for change need to look at someone that has the experience to make change or else the republican will cruise to victory on 2 points – security of the country and experience to handle world’s events as it occurs.

Thank you, Juan. I concur.

Jay – If the FL and MI do get seated, it will only be by a scenario of 50/50. They broke the rules, and no one campaigned for votes. Having candidate names off the MI ballot hurts any chance of FL being treated differently. Pelosi has indicated she may allow the 50/50, but nothing else.
The math tends to indicate at least a lead of 140-150 pledged delegates for Obama going to convention. That, and the number of states won by Obama, plus his acceleration in the various demos will likely tilt the supers to Obama. I don’t see Clinton settling for the VP slot. She’s said she’d rather return to the Senate and a leadership position there. It’s true the Dems are split in their affections, but contrary to the early campaign, it’s just not adding up as Clinton’s year. I personally think this is a good thing, as most people expect the blue states to remain blue, and Obama may be able to swing some purple states around. It’s really a good thing, not the end of the world.

I hope you’re calculation are wrong Kevin, but if your man OBama wins the Democratic nomination, do you think he will have a chance in hell against McCain, when all of Hillary’s supporters will be voting for McCain in the general?

Sorry Kevin, I am all of my family and friends are Clinton supporters, and we will all vote for McCain. Mr. Obama scares the hell out of me, and I have researched him with an open mind. He is not presidential material.

Just words? Watch out folks, really change is here. Isn’t this fresh? How long has it been since we have seen something this phenomenal? Despite all the talks about the Republican political machine. Hold on to hope. It is a terrible thing to lose. GO OBAMA. YES WE CAN

The D.O.A Leadership in the Whitehouse for the pass 7 going on forever years is a huge reason why the G.O.P will Have ,to coin a phase a rainy night in Georgia,come november…

rachelfarleigh,
I want the Democrats to win the White House, But you are seriously underestimating the Republican Party political war machine they want Obama to win the nomination because they know they will shred him to pieces during the campaign to the White House. Karl Rove will have Field Day tearing Obama into little pieces and once again securing the White House for the Republicans. I’m for the Democrats and I want the Democrats to win, but because the Democrats are split 50/50 in nominating their candidate, the Republican political war machine will use that to their advantage to defeat Obama in the General Election. The Republicans are not split 50/50 and they will back McCain in very high numbers with their money and votes to defeat Obama.

Put the fork in, she’s done. Hillary for the third time failed to congratulate Obama on his victory. Also, as usual, she got out of town and never thanked those who fought the ice and cold to vote for her. HILLARY HAS A LOT OF CLASS – BUT IT’S ALL LOW.

Hilary is the only candidate who’s name was on the ballot in Michigan and she’s the only one who broke her promise and campaigned in Florida. IF they seat Michigan and Florida delegates it will be because they hold last min caucuses and they’ll get half their allotted delegates. In the primary when Barack held up his promise not to campaign in Florida he lost to Clinton by 20 points. She just lost to him by 17 in a state she spent three days in, plenty of advertising money, a bogus plagarism attack, and also sent in Bill and Chelsea. A last min caucus in Florida will not net her many delegates.
If Clinton doesn’t win Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania by at least double digits (some reports are saying she needs 65%) she won’t be close enough in pledged delegates for it to make a difference.
I am thrilled by the possibility of a candidate in the GE that I’m actually excited to vote for, rather than the lesser of two evils.

Brenden. Let’s be honest. There was a huge crossover vote to keep Hillary from winning Wisconsin. That is just obvious. After the whole count is over he will have won 12 more delegates than Mr. Clinton. So this was not a must win for either of them.

Jay – To be fair, Obama should pick up 15 more del.s in WI tonight and an extra 5-6 in HI. Adding those 20 to the current 133 puts Obama up by about 150 in pledged delegates. On the bright side, McCain picked up all 31 delegates! (that’s good-natured ribbing).

Anthony in Texas, are you voting for Obama because you think it is over for Hillary? Do you believe he can effect change? If so, please tell me how?

lol Kevin. so far with 93% of precincts reporting is it Obama 38 Clinton 27. There are only 74 delegates to be awarded, so I will stand by my 12 figure with only 9 delegates left to award. I might give you 13, but 15 is a stretch.

Hillary is just mean (and Phony).
The Clintons will do whatever it takes and look for a Dirty back room deal by the Clintons!

Joe, thanks for proving my point. You Obama supporters are disgusting. How do you actually think we could support you or your candidate after say that nasty stuff about someone we highly regard and believe in? You are delusional!

Jay – Actually, the ad ran by Obama in Florida was forced as he purchased a nationwide ad package from a major network which was not selective to not run it in Florida. He didn’t actually push Florida in any way and he did no campaigning. Hillary did have fund-raisers before and after in Florida (though small and kept quiet) and she WAS the only one on the ballot and the only one to campaign in Michigan. Everyone, including Hillary, not only agreed to to not campaign there but that their delegates should not be seated. Now that she realizes that if they aren’t seated her chances are greatly reduced on winning this nomination, she’s begging and pleading and making it seem like its because she cares about the citizens of those states. Well, she doesn’t… she just cares about the delegates that she won’t be getting from them. As far as Obama is concerned, to all of those who said “what is his idea of change?” or “what are his stances on policies?” I sure hope you paid attention to his speech tonight. Though long, the speech made sure to add a serious tone that so many felt was missing and stated his position on numerous issues. While he doesn’t have 36 years (I’d like to see Hillary prove that number) of experience, experience isn’t everything. Google’s CEO’s didn’t have experience in running a major company, nor Microsoft. The same goes with people like Gahndi, or Martin Luther King Jr…. The founding fathers of our country didn’t have experience with starting a country, let alone running one and inspiring its citizens to rise up against that which was wrongly oppressing them. Well, we see where that got us?
Also, in reference to the recent attack methods from Hillary, which is trying to be scandalous (how surprising).. Hillary tries to bash Obama for stealing a line from a speech he was permitted to use when literally 2 sentences after she makes a statement about that she uses an identical line from Obama’s speeches and just changes the construction of the family who gave her money.

Jay – most of the outstanding precincts are in Milwaukee, Eau Claire, and Clark County, so we’ll see.

Jay, what do you mean Disney on Ice? I was asking why my postings were deleted just because I am against Hillary. By the way, tongiht, we are huge majority in Wisconsin.

No more Bill. No more Hillary. I’m definitely looking forward to this summer when this becomes reality. Go Hillary! (away that is).

Joe, I was referring to you saying Mrs. Clinton is mean and plays dirty. I said this is politics, not some New York fashion show. Both play dirty, and I would expect it of both of them.
Yes, I congratulate Mr. Obama on his 17 point win and 12 more delegates in Wisconsin. Lot’s more campaigning and delegates to go!!!

You Hillary people better get home and feed your dinosaurs. Get you head out and enjoy some fresh air.

ilforobama, CEOs and Presidents are different. We elect a President. CEO’s are chose by a Board. What are his positions? How is he going to effect them? Does have a track record in effecting his positions? This is important because you can take any charismatic person and put him up there to say the right things. But can he deliver? I don’t think so. He has no record of delivering. How is he going to change the mind of Congress if they do not agree with him? Lobbyists are not going away. How is he going to deal with them? If you look at his Senate voting records, he seems to not take a position.

The Democrats have the opportunity to elect one of two brilliant politicians to the White House and you spend your time spewing nasty invective about each other’s candidates instead of rejoicing at the magnificent and historic choice you have.
As a Republican, I can’t help but shake my head and be glad that you all are going to manage to screw-up an election that was practically handed to you.

JohnnyP, why would Chavez listen to Obama over Clinton? As for Cuba, Hillary will be the President and not Bill. Just because Obama calls, doesn’t mean Chavez has to listen. This is where all of the Obama supporters will feel duped. Right now, he just has to promise to do things. When it comes down to it, can he deliver? I think Hillary can deliver better than Obama.

Plus we’ll get a good look at how Obama will stand up to the Republican attack machine in the next two weeks. I’ve noticed the tenor of the HRC attacks are beginning to track very closely to a Rove narrative. Tonight she invoked the specter of terrorism and asked if we feel safe with Obama as CINC. Next, she’ll probably announce she’s selecting fellow New Yorker Rudy Guilliani as her running mate.

Obama actually has more legislative experience than Clinton. Clinton was a poverty lawyer, Wal-mart board member, First Lady and now U.S. Senator. Obama was a community organizer, Harvard Law graduate, State Senator, U.S. Senator and now front-running Dem. presidential candidate. He’s doing what Reagan did for all you new-age haters. People who’ve never been part of the voting process are registering and voting in record numbers for Obama. You don’t have to “hate” Obama while voting for Clinton. Those of you idiots who will vote for McCain in the GE if Obama is the nominee lack deductive reasoning skills. I’m voting for Obama but Clinton is my girl if she’s the nominee. Hands Down!

Jim, Chavez will meet and talk with Obama, no question about it. What Hillary won’t do (because she will have to stay so darn tough in the face of Republicans ready to pounce) is even make attempts to talk to our enemies. My opinion is that Obama will be able to begin dialogue with our “enemies” where Hillary will just not be able to do it.

Johnny D. said, “The American people recognize the great woman with intellect, judgement and ability that Hillary is.”
I asked already and I will ask again – please do not speak for me. I am American and I thoroughly disagree with you. You speak for yourself, respected; when you want to lump me in, thanks but no thanks.

Lee,
I want the Democratic Party to win the White House, but I am not going to tell myself a “fairy tale” that Obama will win the General Election against the Republican Party political War Machine. Do you honestly think a divided Democratic Party will put Obama in the White House when already the Republican Political War Machine is encouraging Republican voters to vote for Obama in the Democratic primaries to make sure that Hillary looses the primaries and Obama becomes the candidate. Republicans are united and they will shred Obama in the General elections, look back in the 2004 elections the Republican Party Political War Machine successfully defeated the Democratic Party by unifying the Republicans to vote in record numbers to defeat John Kerry. If Hillary wins the nomination she and her Husband Bill Clinton know very well how to defeat the Republican Party Political War Machine.

It doesn’t matter which one wins now. Party insiders know that the blood bath will be so severe that McCain will win in November. It is amazing that the Dems will lose an election that was in the bag. The truth is that Hillary is losing now because she ran to the center in preparation for November. A Ted Kennedy supported liberal will not win in the light of a general election.

Henry writes:
“either one will be skewered”
Hah! I suppose that could be, Henry, but what will you be saying when it’s a landslide to the contrary and Obama or Hillary are your next President?
Jus’ sayin’, don’t be so sure of yourself.

Jen,
Hillary can still win the nomination, and if she does win the nomination she will have a far better chance to win the General Election, and the reason I’m saying that she can beat the Republicans just look at the Clinton’s track record, She and her Husband successfully beat the Republicans two times in a row and if Bill Clinton would had run a Third term he would of successfully defeated George W. Bush. “A House divided cannot stand” and in this case the Democratic party is divided and will once screw up in the General Election, successfully handing over the White House to the Republicans.

Of course she’s going to keep on fighting. She may even win. It’s just very refreshing to see a candidate punished by the voters for childish and dirty tactics.
17 points has to sting.
But, its still not over till it’s over.
Funny how wolfson went from we are “very competitive” to we knew we didn’t have a chance.

Hillary please stop and think!
This attitude of lack of introspective is not sign of experience.

Jen,
I’m for the Democratic Party to win the General Election, but Obama does not impress me. A vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote for Bill Clinton to be in the White House again, and I remember how the economy prosper very well during the Clinton Administration. The facts are the Clinton’s know how to defeat the Republican Political War Machine. I can “dream on” and say that Obama will win the General Election, but I will not underestimate the Political power of the Republican Political War Machine, that War Machine has lots of money and with the help of Karl Rove they will easily defeat Obama in the General Election. And that Republican Political War Machine is already hard at work to make sure that Obama is the Democratic candidate because they know Hard core Republicans will not vote for the most liberal democrat in history.

Well keep on dreaming that Obama will win the the General Election against a unify Republican Party, when the Democratic party is and will be divided in the General Election, because Hillary supporters, the majority will not vote for Obama, ensuring a victory to the Republicans.

Yknow, I’m really amused that some people think more than 50% of the country has been subliminally brainwashed into not liking Hillary Clinton. Just because.
Sorry. Most of us aren’t that stupid. We don’t like Clinton purely for who she is. And as she’s finding out, no amount of media spin on HER side, is counteracting that.
Every time she opens her mouth, she digs her hole deeper. I really think the Caucuses comment is what is finishing her off.
Good riddance.

stock_craft,
I agreed with you those same republicans will not vote for Obama in the General Election. The Republican Party Political War Machine wants Obama to win the nomination in order to shred him to pieces in the General Election.

At work no one hire a new grad to work on a critical project which must delivery on time. I don’t know people who claim well educated can give the job of US President to a candidate who has only 3 years experience in the Senate beside unknown background. God bless America.

John: Once again, I profoundly disagree with your analysis of the state of the two parties going into the general election. Far more Hillary supporters will find Barack Obama acceptable than Huckabee Conservatives will ever make peace with John McCain. The wing-nut wing of the Republican Party is united in hatred of McCain. As the Rev. James Dobson, chairman of Focus on the Family stated” Should John McCain capture the nomination, as many assume (only those who can count…jt) I believe this general election will offer the worst choices for president in my lifetime.” Or as Ann Coulter stated with her usual charm: “I would vote for the Devil over John McCain, thus my claim that I would vote for Hillary over John McCain.” You say that Barack Obama would face a united Republican Party in November? I don’t think so. We should remember that the Republican nominee in the last two election cycle pleased these geniuses… that should discredit their perspective for at least a generation…jt

People please have some respect for
President Obama, we need to support him
to bring back our country to greatness
again.

This is the year of the non partisan. Hillary Clinton represents sleaze and deceit. Returning the Clinton’s to the White House is the last thing the country needs.
While I am not entirely pleased with either party’s front runners, I can accept either one as the next POTUS.
If its McCain, Hillary gets another shot at it in 2012. If its Obama, she’ll have to wait until 2016.
Maybe between now and then, the people of New York come to their senses and throw her out on her ear.

I was an Edwards guy, so I think my perspective isn’t really completely pro OBama or Hillary. However, something to consider. Hillary, although unquestionably intelligent and very capable, has more than a few things in common with George W Bush, and not in a good way. Hillary likes to portray her roots as humble, but her father was a textile executive. While not exceptionally wealthy, she certainly had a privelaged upbringing. Now to the Bush similarities. 1. Both attended private schools, both high school and college. 2. Hillary while acknowledged as a very bright attorney early on (unlike Bush’s early business career) never made partner of her law firm until her husband became an influential member of the Arkansas government. While this may not have been the sole reason for partnership, it is undeniable that a certain coziness with the executive branch was an advantage. Compare this with Bush’s Spectrum 7 and Harkin deals.
3. Clinton ran for Senate with Bill’s people, contacts, influence and fundraising, and without it would not and could not have won. Just to put it in perspective…If a powerful, but relatively unknown corporate lawyer moved to your state from halfway across the country just to run for the senate, what do you think there chances would be? Compare this to Bush running for governor as a failed businessman with Bush 1′s people and influence.
4. Bush had a grand total of 1 and a half terms as Texas governor. Hillary has had 1 and a half terms as New York senator.
5. Hillary claims White House experience because she was there with her husband. W claimed he saw his run things in the white house.
6. Now some of these are stronger points than others, but the main gist is that both Bush and Hillary had a fair amount of things handed to them. This is a weakness not due to class warfare or envy, but because they never had to learn to make the compromises that are necessary to achieve high office, rung by rung, inch by inch. You can see where this has gotten Bush during his illustrious 7 years.

The Super Delegates better learn from the WI results if they want to win in November. Only Obama can win a majority of Independents and a significant amount of Republican votes. If the Super Delegates put Hillary over the top, she will spell doom for the party!

Hillary’s gonna have to cheat by seating the florida delagates to win the nomination. Hope she bows out gracefully rather than destroy the party.
It would be a stupid move on her part if she pulled a stunt like that… she’d loose the african-american vote and the election.

Just a thought……….Why is it I notice most people that can’t spell are DEMOCRATS?
Schwartzenegger for Prez!!!! (wishful thinking)

The candidates will be Obama vs. McCain. And, I think it will be a civil race. Both are decent men. But, I think the outcome will be Obama winning. McCain’s age is going to matter in the race…standing besides a youthful Obama, he seems very old…with ideas tied to – and seen as a continuation of – our current President and his policies.
The negativity (and polarization) in the US is destroying our country. You can see the ugliness even on these blogs. We must change to survive. We are one people – Americans. And, I believe that there are enough people of good will that change will happen. We will be great again, turning from the corruption we have seen in business and government and recapturing world leadership. I believe we can be a nation of ethics again. I believe that we can be a nation that adheres to the constitution again. There has never been a time when change was more needed. It’s coming…

My bet is, no matter how well Obama does, by hook or by crook, Hillary WILL get the nomination. Don’t worry, there’s plenty of time for the Clinton War Room to dig up dirt on Obama.

Ready on Day One!
She can’t even plan a campaign strategically despite her early edge in the race. How can we trust her for being ready on day one?

The article states that “Clinton struggled in some of her core support groups – white women, less-educated and lower-income voters. Top Clinton advisors are studying those results, shaping their strategies in Ohio and Texas moving forward.” Does this mean that Clinton considers Ohio and Texas to ripe with idiots, even forming the majority, and so they are changing their message (again) in order to convince the tards in those states to vote for them? I think I know why she’s lost 10 straight, and will lose Ohio and Texas as well!!

The ruthless Clintons will never give up even if they ruin the Democrat Party. THEY ARE SELFISH, ARROGANT PEOPLE WHO WILL DO NOTHING FOR THIS COUNTRY ONLY FOR THEMSELVES. Their scorched earth behavior will do them in in the end. I certainly pray that happens.

I dont think Mccain will win against Obama. Obama has run a good campaign always focussing on issues.
If he wants to go negative, he can talk about the scandals(watergate, file gate etc), monica lewinsky affair, the supposed murder of their lawyer etc.
There are a lot of intelligent people out here who arent going to be fooled by negative campaigns. M

The headline will read :
” End of The Clinton Era- for Good!
( finally)”

Hillary is in a loose-loose situation and that won’t change. She will need to win with decisive numbers before getting to the convention….a tie going into the convention where she wins will loose her the general election….African Americans will feel it was stolen from them and not vote. She will either loose just by numbers to Obama or win in a close race with Obama only to loose the BIG one. If Obama wins then a lot of Hillary people will be going to McCain….a lot of Obama’s winning votes came from people crossing party lines to stick it to Hillary….they won’t be there in Nov. for him. The out come…Repubs win WH…Dems keep both houses.

Carol: “Hillary clinton supporters won’t vote for Mccain. They Wont Vote period.” The I will need to change my assesment…Repubs take WH and both Houses.

My wife and I will be voting republican for the second time in 40 years, rather than vote for Obama. Many of our friends feel the same way and the general election will prove that out.

If Osama wins the primary, a lot of Hillary supporters will vote for John McCain or a third party candidate. He will not get many Hispanic and Asian American votes either. Democracts will not even carry CA and NY. How can you win white house?

Do you think the people who vote for Senator Obama in Red state during DEM primary will continue support him in general election if he does win the nomination from liberal DEM? So far, Hillary Clinton won all the votes from big states. Most of the voters in those states are middle and working class, moderate DEM, Hispanics, Asians, White men and women do not automatically vote for Mr. Obama once Hillary is out.
In fact, with the rule, winner takes all delegates in November Election, DEM will definitely hand the White House to GOP again in 2009 if Mr. Obama does win the nomination.
“YES, WE CAN” or “NO, YOU CAN’T” Kid Game will not work in General Election.

I agreed Sharon but the Media and GOP will start getting him once Hillary is out. Beating Senator Obama is much more easily than beating Clinton. They, Clinton have survived the GOP attacks for more than 15 years.

I wonder how this election, in this democracy would look if we didn’t have the male media to decide what we see and hear and if the male didn’t interpret for us what we’ve seen and heard. At some point, the male media’s egotistical pawing of each other in their search for the ultimate one up-man-ship in describing for us what we’ve seen and heard is at best humorous and at worst a laying open to the entire world that their impressions of us are well founded; the American people are incredibly naïve and shallow. Obamacans got a taste of “vetting” and the Republican machine last night when John McCain wasted no time stepping into the ring, to take on both Hillary and Obama. It seems that McCain, unlike the press huddle their locker room, has no fear in talking about Obama’s lack of experience, “an eloquent but empty call for change”, his naive proposal to bomb Pakistan and his wife’s quip about her “first proud” moment of being an American. I wonder why the press hasn’t said more, hasn’t ask more tough questions about Obama, hasn’t “tested” him like they have Hillary. I’m sure they’ll tell me, if I need to know.

It is very telling….Rich/educated are for Obama and Middleclass, Poor/uneducated are for Hillary. All these folks want change but it is the middleclass, poor that need real and immediate change. It doesn’t surprise me that the people who are most desperate for immediate change and solutions are recognize the warrior in HIllary. They know who will deliver. The rich and educated can afford to role the dice and weather through four years of an inexperience president who will run an experiemental governement. The poor can not afford 4 years of waiting because things are breaking now and they are struggling now. Those who need immediate change do not have the luxury to take on an inexperience president who can regurgitated great speeches of the past with orchestrated timming. Food, healthcare, equality, opportunities and hope is needed now. Hillary08

San Francisco,
I understand that you are proud that a strong & smart woman is running for president but why is Obama only a smooth talker? It SEEMS like you are voting for Hilliary because she is a woman by the comments you made. Hilliary does not have 36 or 35 yrs exp in politics. Her husband have a lot of years of experience. Please don’t get that confused. A lot of people are seeing Clinton but have to realize that Bill Clinton was president not Hilliary. Yes she may have SOME inside knowledge but not that much. And I think it would be a mistake to put her husband in a position of power because people might complain that Bill is running things instead of Hilliary stepping out on her own. All people on the campaign trail make speeches. This is all people have been associating Obama with. But I am confused why no one would bring up his time in the Senate? Maybe because Obama and Hilliary actually agree on more issues than they disagree on.
If the only thing people can say bad about Obama is that he makes good speeches then ……..( I will let you fill in the blank)!

The reason the democrats always looses is because democrats are naive and dumb and do not work cooperatively as well as the GOP. The GOP wants Obama to win the nomination. It is Obama that they will beat in the general election. The GOP was hopeless at the beginning of this campaign but they found an opportunity to actually win back the whitehouse. Not just an opportunity but a realistic one. They banded together first, they are organizing wasted votes for Obama to get HIllary out of the race and they are already beginning their general election campaign against Obama. Obama has no chance against Mccain. His Iraq claim will go no where against a candidate who has not only serve in government longer then him but who had opted for a strategy that is bringing victory for troops and iraqies. On top of all this, how in the world can Obama debate patriotism against a man who sacrafice his life and body such as mccain. Like or hate Mccain, the guy wear respect perfectly on his shoulders. Economically, they are both equal. Mccain may have an edge because he’s got much more experience to speak of. Obama’s argument will be that Mccain is old and this country need new. Well, I do not believe people will swallow that message well when Obama uses it on Mccain. Mccain’s old looks differently then others….his old tends to spell experience, battle scars, dedication to country, maverick fighter…..not the kind of old that Obama is able to connect Hillary with. Obama has no chance….and I must say the GOP may be alot of things but they are a bunch of brilliant people when it comes to elections. For the GOP to be sitting on pretty right now for the white-house when all wrote them off as hopeless has been the greatest story that have not been told.

Charlene wrote: “It amazes me how the media is so obvious with their dislike of Hillary. The polls are showing her +5-8 points in texas, 20+ points in Ohio and 20+ points in pensalvania and they are already writing her death notice. These 3 states will take Hillary back to even and the delegate count will continue on. And for all those who media folks who continue to talk of how super delegates should not overturn voter counts…..its funny how they conviently leave out the fact that Hillary won overwhelmingly in florida in the popular votes even with Obama and edward on the ticket and without campaigning. So while the wave the noble flag of how popular votes should count they selectively leave out several million voters in Florida where their candidate did not win…..hmmm. I have no doubt that Hillary win win the nomination and the popular vote and florida will need to be calculated into the thinking of ‘popular’ votes because no democracy can put aside 5 million voters voices and still call itself a democracy”
Good post, I agreed. If DEM can’t solve this internal problem, I think it is time to join another party. This party is death.

Okay why do Dem. have to be naive and dumb just because they don’t vote for Hilliary? I think most people are ready for a change. whether that change will be Clinton, Obama, or Mc Cain that still is up in the air.
I think people underestimate Obama they didn’t think he would have a chance against Hilliary. Now they are singing a different tune of that it will be very close. And yes I believe that it is still anyone’s race.
To be honest I don’t hate any of the canidates that are running. Do I favor some over others? Yes I do. Most people on this site seems to like one but hate another. On all of my post I have not said anything bad about a canidate. In a earlier post I was trying to show some realism to a poster who seems to only go for Hilliary because she is a woman. I mention that everyone seemed to be saying how Hilliary has all this experience because the Clintons have been in the white house. I was just pointing out that it was Bill that had the experience not Hilliary (as far as the white house). And that it would be a mistake to put him in a position of power. (Not that she said this or will do this) It was just my opinion.

Also Obama wife words were taken out of context. But it seems like everybody words are in this election. :-)

Hillary WILL take Ohio. I and everyone I know will get out and vote for her if we have to crawl to the precinct ! It is time for the press to stop giving a pass to the Teflon Kid !! Hillary is the only one with the intelligence and the experience to do the job!! Go Hill ! We are there for ya !

Once again ABC news shows its bias. When Clinton was winning the majority of stories had her name, now she is losing and her name is still ‘the story’ most often written up.
greenlee2,for the very reasons Clinton and McCain voted for this war, are the very reason they won’t get us out of it. A lot of the reasoning to go into Iraq had to do with oil supply and oil prices. Look at the price of oil before and after we invaded Iraq. How many rich people here and in the mid-east saw their net worth multiply? Obama is not on the payroll of the corporations as evidenced by his refusal of corporate donations to his campaign. Hillary has taken even more money from them than the Republicans. Obama will be working for us, the ordinary American.

Tom- there is a big difference in Media Competition and Media Bias. The Media has gotten out of hands and I imagine with a Hillary in the white-house, things will change. This is the reason why the media has been so Anti-Hillary. You’re right on one point, it is a game but exceptional people do not participate in games that endangered the integrity of democratic principles. Exceptional leaders take hard stands against dangerous games for profit in order to take the side of the larger public….who, after all are the people they are representing. Hillary is taking this stand and answer only to the voters so that she is not a participant in this sensationalism reporting for profit game and that is why I and many Hillary voters admire her so very much. The guts that this woman has to go against the giant corporate media at great cost is the same guts she will have to go against self-serving interest groups that has showered Obama with money in order to run the show with an inexperience president. This woman will allow no such things and her actions and records indicates such character. I do not need to rely on her words alone because her past actions and records has given life to the leadership ability she possesses.

The Republicans are not voting for Obama
because they feel he will be easy to beat People. Get Real. They are Voting
for Obama Because they remember John
MCains Voting Record against them on key
issues over the past couple of Years and
it’s a bit of a backlash. Obama is easy
to like no matter if your a Dem or Rep.
He is Honest,Intelligent,Sincere,Means
Business and is Quite well spoken. He will put America back on the Map as #1.
I Think even the Republicans Secretly
Realize Greatness when they see it!
Leader