I think President Clinton needs to take a long vacation. I mean it in a sincere way.
I I have nothing against Clinton, but since the media hates the clinton’s may one clinton will lessen the hatred. Its really sad to say, how the media fiasco have handled this campaign. I watched SNL yesterday and what Tina Fey said about the Clinton’s def. the truth.. but since the media is destroying the clintons and worshiping the OBama yes Clinton is a liability right now
Posted by: to Bill | February 24, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
he is running for the third term. why to take a long vacation? you guys dont understand politics.
Posted by: david | February 24, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
There is is so much hate towards the Clintons that Hiilary’s superior stand will be lost. That in top of the fact that MAN can not swallow a woman on top and woman are not standing up for them self (some I mean, most are smart ladies and strong) men will NOT let a smarter woman with solutions win.
Ben Smith, at Politico:
Newsday’s Glenn Thrush has that rarest of things: A new chapter to the Hillary’s biography, and one that cuts sharply against a central part of her image: That she’s spent her whole career fighting for children:
[T]here is a little-known episode Clinton doesn’t mention in her standard campaign speech in which those two principles collided. In 1975, a 27-year-old Hillary Rodham, acting as a court-appointed attorney, attacked the credibility of a 12-year-old girl in mounting an aggressive defense for an indigent client accused of rape in Arkansas – using her child development background to help the defendant.
[snip]
[Clinton's] account leaves out a significant aspect of her defense strategy – attempting to impugn the credibility of the victim, according to aNewsday examination of court and investigative files and interviews with witnesses, law enforcement officials and the victim.
Rodham, records show, questioned the sixth grader’s honesty and claimed she had made false accusations in the past. She implied that the girl often fantasized and sought out “older men” like Taylor, according to a July 1975 affidavit signed “Hillary D. Rodham” in compact cursive.
Clinton’s aides point out, accurately, that she was bound to present her indigent client the best defense available, which she did: He was able to plead down to a much lesser offense.
But read the whole story. Thrush reconstructs the crime, Clinton’s role as a legal “bulldog,” and her defense through court and police documents, and interviews a range of parties, including the alleged victim.
It’s really an astonishingly good piece of reporting.
After election, people will remember all
the good things Bill done for us in the
90′s. Before him replublican has created
a huge national debt and fiscal deficit,
Bill is the one to create budget surplus.
Thanks Bill.
LAWYER HILLARY GRILLED 12-YEAR OLD OVER ‘RAPE’; attacked child’s credibility…
Yes, typical Drudge report title, but the actual story is pretty shocking.
Follow the link at Drudge to GLENN THRUSH’s remarkably documented article at the Newsday site.
Clinton was a good president.
But it is unseemly for him to suddenly re-appear, red faced and wagging his finger. It goes against the spirit of the 22nd amendment, and that’s why people react negatively. Americans aren’t comfortable with the concentration of power in the hands of a few elite families.
Posted by: Kansas Jack | February 25, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
I said it a month ago, and I’ll say it again here. When the history of this nomination is written, in the final summation it will all come down to two simple words: “fairy tale.”
Posted by: Thank God for Karma | February 25, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
NAFTA is not Bill Clinton’s issue. NAFTA put America in the global map and let America have access to the resources which were limited in US. In today’s global competition, America cannot grow in isolation or America will become a third world country. If someone who have lived in third world country knows what I am talking about.
Obama is for and against NAFTA. If Obama really believes NAFTA was wrong, I did not see any legislation about that in that regards till date.
Posted by: Humm | February 25, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
If Clinton was an Asset Obama should have been stopped on Super Tuesday or in South Carolina. Hillary was doing very well until Bill came along and ran his big mouth. I guess you guys know the rest of the story.
Posted by: Owen Hill | February 25, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
Well well please look at these two articles: Louis Farrakhan Endorses Obama at “Saviours’ Day” Event in Chicago: A Tale of Who Shall Be King
February 24th, 2008 by DR. CLARISSA PINKOLA ESTÉS
The Associated Press reports today that Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan “says presidential candidate Barack Obama represents hope that the United States will change for the better.”
Google the MODERATE VOICE
Now, by this, his sound relationship with Farrakhan is clearly shown.
Next Obama’s deceptive pro-Israel stance.
Look who is his Middle East Advisor is. This advisor’s father was a once close friend of Yasser Arafat, clearly pro-Palestine.
Google Simon Malley and American Thinker
Obama once replied:
The attacks, mainly anonymous e-mails, have woven together various threads — his middle name –”Hussein;” schooling in Muslim Indonesia; his Chicago pastor’s embrace of the anti-Semitic leader of the Nation of Islam, Louis Farrakhan; and his calls for dialogue with Iran — to portray Obama as the Muslim Manchurian candidate.
Leading American Jewish organizations have denounced these “hateful e-mails.” Obama has condemned Farrakhan’s anti-Semitism and made clear he disagrees with his pastor, the Rev. Jerermiah A. Wright Jr., whose magazine honored Farrakhan last year. But he’s not broken with Wright, the man who ushered him to his Christian faith.
Posted by: Deeply concerned | February 25, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
Since so many of you think that the press is hating on Hillary, have you ever stopped to think how come? Did you do any investigating into why the occassionally contentious association between the press and the Clintons developed? I suggest some of you do that and then you will realize that sometimes things have to travel the long way around before they arrive back to bite you in the rear. The old saying that you reap what you sow might be used here also.
The press has a long memory right Jake?
Posted by: Chip | February 25, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
When I hear garbage stuff about Obama’s past, I go and donate some money for his cause.Yes I have a master’s degree and yes I make more than 100k a year.
I just feel pity for people who have nothing but hate in their heart. Obama will make a great president. Because it will be the easy and right thing to do. Hillary will also make a great president and if mcCain lives thru the entire 4 years, he will make a great president too.
Posted by: Al, San Francisco | February 25, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
It’s a shame that the media has not done their job and applied the same scrutiny concerning Barack Obama’s past as they have Hillary Clinton’s past. It seems that ordinary citizens have done more to uncover facts (which are not all good) about this man than the cable news stations or local newspapers. Hmmm I wonder why that is? When I hear “garbage stuff” about Barack Obama I donate to Hillary (HillaryClinton.com) Go Hillary! Can’t wait to see her debate in Ohio, and again prove why she should be our 44th president’
Posted by: Carrie | February 25, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
Bill Clinton is the Cool-Dude-in-Chief. Hillary would have already been out of this race if he hadn’t intervened in New Hampshire. History will shed light on the strategy that Bill used, and it will prove to have been an effective one.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | February 25, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
Hey Mr. Al Cum-ba-ya guy,
You have to agree that Hillary has more experience. If you don’t agree with this then you haven’t done your homework. You have to agree that Obama has a lightweight record in the Senate. Again, homework. You also have to agree that McCain wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years, which would mean many trillions of our money. Shall I say homework one more time. The right candidate is undoubtedly Hillary Clinton. If you can’t arrive at that determination after completing your homework, then you get an F.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | February 25, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am
if experience mean just counting the years going then no one will beat any Homeless. but if experience mean doing something during those years then Clinton can not claim any experience.
Posted by: leche_the_samurai | February 25, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am
The best political gift of the day for Barack Obama’s campaign has been served up by Iowa’s Des Moines Register, the largest newspaper in the swing state that put the Illinois senator on top in possible head-to-head match-ups in the fall election.
The poll shows Obama ahead of Republican nominee John McCain by a substantial margin, 53-36. A head-to-head match between McCain and Hillary Clinton shows McCain is the preferred choice, 49-40.
Posted by: Sam | February 25, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am
WestCoastMessenger,
Hillary’s Debate closing is a clear proof that she has more experience…Even her best moment is made out of XEROXING one sentence from John Edward and another fro m her hubby….SO, yes she has way more experience than Obama in Xeroxing.
PROBLEM is good part of her experience is disqualifying for the job of Presidency, like sending job overseas (Wal-mart, Nafta).
Hey you may want to talk her into sending your job overseas in exchange for your vote for her.
Posted by: moeen | February 25, 2008, 3:10 am 3:10 am
Posted by: Jim | February 25, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am
Clintons ARE Caught-up in fire! Cheat people once but teach people always. Clintons (Bill & Hill) have done enough to be in liability side of the americans hope. They try to win at all cost…cheating, recycling of words and even promises have never worked for their side. They are just ” New bottles but the same old wine!!”
Posted by: Paul | February 25, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am
No rest, no best! Clinton camp is gone, outdated…it is just an ‘OLD WINE IN THE NEW BOTTLE’ …new promises from Hillary & Bill are no where to move Americans dreams now…
Obama is the only clear-cut option for American inspiration.
Posted by: Paul | February 25, 2008, 4:39 am 4:39 am
The media hasn’t been unfair to Hillary. She and Bill received an 8 year pass from a complicit media when he was president. He replaced all the U.S. Attorneys and had an attorney general who winked at his corruption. An honest press was badly needed. Instead we got partisans. If the press isn’t killing negative news, tossing her softballs, and licking her hand, then she feels as if she is being picked on. Yes, Obama has gotten a pass so far. Hillary is in no position to complain.
Posted by: Sinecure | February 25, 2008, 7:03 am 7:03 am
TO JIm…
Glad to see your post. Too bad some people won’t even bother to look. They are so close minded and only go with the flow, instead of looking up facts. No matter where you go, you will be insulted if you show facts. They won’t look. They don’t care. They just want a savior, a unifier, a cool president. Very scary! Good luck!
Posted by: Catmacdee | February 25, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am
Obama is questioned on his patriotism and Michelle is also. Obama says, “well I’ll just tell the truth” and Michelle says, “I just misspoke”.
It’s good to see this works for some people – it sure hasn’t been the case with the Clintons.
Posted by: american2 | February 25, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am
ONCE AGAIN, JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF OBAMA AND NAFTA…
Today, Sen. Obama said the following:
And yesterday, Senator Clinton also said I’m wrong to point out that she once supported NAFTA. But the fact is, she was saying great things about NAFTA until she started running for President.
This is false. Hillary criticized Sen. Obama for sending out a mailer that claimed she said NAFTA was a “boon to the economy” when she never did. Today, the University of Pennsylvania’s FactCheck.org concluded “We do judge that the Obama campaign is wrong to quote Clinton as using words she never uttered, and it has produced little evidence that she ever had strong praise of any sort for NAFTA’s economic benefits.”
Also, Hillary has been critical of NAFTA long before she started running for President. For example, here’s Hillary in March 2000:
What happened to NAFTA I think was we inherited an agreement that we didn’t get everything we should have got out of it in my opinion. I think the NAFTA agreement was flawed. The problem is we have to go back and figure out how we are going to fix that. [Working Families Party, 3/26/00]
Sen. Obama touts his consistent opposition to NAFTA. But speaking in Illinois in 2004 Obama said the United States “benefited enormously” from exports under NAFTA and talked about the need to continue to pursue trade agreement like NAFTA that support “a system of free trade in this nation that allows us to move our products overseas.”
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Posted by: Catmacdee | February 25, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am
Bill has done a great job for this country which will forever be in our memory.They are uncountable.Despite all these,Amerians would like to see a new kind of plolicies in WASHINGTON.The world is changing and people are just tired with the BUSHES and CLINTONS old policies.
Posted by: I.A.T Smith | February 25, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am
Obama is the first presidential candidate to officially declare his/her support for the NAFTA expansion moving through the Congress. His announcement is not necessarily surprising, considering he was the keynote speaker at the launch of the Hamilton Project — a Wall Street front group working to DRIVE A WEDGE between Democrats and organized LABOR on globalization issues. His announcement comes just days after a Wall Street Journal poll found strong bipartisan opposition to lobbyist-written NAFTA-style trade policies. Clinton and Obama vote for Peru NAFTA
deal
Vote for Barack Obama if you want to, but please do it with your eyes open and with the knowledge that Rupert Murdoch — possibly the worst corporate media CEO around — has endorsed Obama and is using all the resources of his media empire to help Obama and destroy Hillary Clinton (one has to wonder what Rupert Murdoch hopes to gain from an Obama presidency and fears from a Clinton presidency). And bear in mind that Obama chose as his senate “mentor” the loathsome Joe Lieberman, whose gleefulness in voting with the Republicans and against the Democrats
made Lieberman (at the time Obama chose him as his mentor) one of the most despised Democrats in the senate.
So, to sum up: When Barack Obama had the chance to vote against NAFTA, he voted, instead, to expand NAFTA.
Posted by: Catmacdee | February 25, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am
Wearing an American Flag Lapel pin; holding your hand over your heart during the singing of the National Anthem; neither of these actions can seriously be believed as indicators of a person’s patriotism or lack there of. I think the majority of people would agree to this. Trying to understand when someone say’s they “misspoke”, seems a good idea as well. Is it also fair to say that a former President, who has a history of championing for civil rights, might be sincere when he explained the two statements he made that received much criticism?
Posted by: american2 | February 25, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Bill needs to “get a life”………….does he really believe he is running for his third term?
Posted by: Vectorpedia (Rick) | February 25, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
I’m just sick of the Clintons. ALL DRAMA…NO SUBSTANCE.
I consider myself to be a Christian, and I strongly resent Hillary’s analogy of Obama’s campaign to heaven. The skies opening up, the light shinning down, celestial choirs, everything is perfect. Mockery along those lines should be totally off limits.
Americans are capable of making up their own minds. GO AWAY BILL AND TAKE HILLARY WITH YOU!!
Posted by: Feed Up in Texas | February 25, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
This is a quote from a bestseller biography written by one of the same reporters who investigated Watergate and co-authored another famous book that was made into a popular movie. You have probably heard him talk about her on tv very recently, and if so know that he is far from always speaking favorably of her. However this passage from his book I think speaks for itself as to her faith: “Aside from her family, Hillary’s Methodism is perhaps the most important foundation of her character. As one of her aides said during the winter’s night of the lewinsky epoch, “Hillary’s faith is the link…It explains the missionary zeal with which she attacks her issues and goes after them, and why she’s done it for thirty years. And, it also explains the really extraordinary self-discipline and focus and ability to rely on her spirituality to get through all this…She’s a woman of tremendous faith. Again, not advertised. She’s not one of those people who’s out there doing the holy roller stuff. But that’s how she gets through it: some people go to shrinks, she does it by being a Methodist.”
Posted by: american2 | February 25, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
President Bill Clinton was smart to realise that Obama’s “Change” is a “Fairy Tale”. I read one of the Al Gore’s interview and he said that results for decision taken in the business can be quick than in the Washington. So, if the Media and Obama feels that Bill Clinton is wrong and they are right then they are dreaming.
Posted by: Humm | February 25, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Hillary can toss insults about the skies opening when Obama speaks. Still won’t get her elected.
She should stick to the issues – if she can’t win on those, than it’s her own fault.
As for following that link to Drudge, I don’t think I can handle that story if it is true. Wish a ‘real’ paper would investigate it. But then, a ‘real’ newspaper investigated the McCain Drudge story, and look where that got them…
Posted by: Chicka | February 25, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
This is off subject but I want to apologize to my fellow bloggers and thank the moderators here for forcing me to take a deep breath last night. I completely lost my temper which I do not often do and needed to step back. So please accept my apology and thank you moderators.
On subject – yes Bill is a liability many people do not want another Clinton in office. I know I don’t. While I am not an Obama supporter I would rather see him get the nomination than Hillary.
Posted by: KC in NC | February 25, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
yes, yes and yes. She wants to campaign as if his presidential experience aslo counts as hers. She wants to take at least partial credit for his accomplishments and no association with his failures. All that adds up to a second co-presidency. No way she can be viewed and a straong leader when everyone will be looking for the ‘real’ answer from the guy sitting next to her.
Posted by: Louis | February 25, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
I suspect something. Bill did everything to let GORE fail. Now he is doing the same with his own wife – he is cheating her for a second time. Bravo, BILL, your EGO is so big.!!!!
Posted by: Denis van Dam | February 25, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Bill is not the problem….Obama IS!
The Republicans want Obama because they have a plan to tear him down.
“Nonetheless, the “most liberal” charge is likely to be heard early and often should Obama emerge as the Democratic nominee, particularly as it appears at odds with his insistence that he will reach across the aisle and shift the political calculus away from the bitter antagonism of recent years.
“There’s a lot of uncertainty about how he would govern and how he would put into practice what we think of as bipartisanship given what we know about his Senate record,” said Sarah Binder, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and an expert on Congress.”
catmacdee, why are you just quoting lines without doing any real research to test the validity of your statements. read Hillary’s book and you will find that she did praise NAFTA. Explore her alleged quotes from Obama a little closer and you will see that on her flier she cut and pasted without the entire truth to misrepresent Obama. And her mockery of his speeches show her as being a little unstable.
I think President Clinton needs to take a long vacation. I mean it in a sincere way.
I I have nothing against Clinton, but since the media hates the clinton’s may one clinton will lessen the hatred. Its really sad to say, how the media fiasco have handled this campaign. I watched SNL yesterday and what Tina Fey said about the Clinton’s def. the truth.. but since the media is destroying the clintons and worshiping the OBama yes Clinton is a liability right now
Posted by: to Bill | February 24, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
he is running for the third term. why to take a long vacation? you guys dont understand politics.
Posted by: david | February 24, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
There is is so much hate towards the Clintons that Hiilary’s superior stand will be lost. That in top of the fact that MAN can not swallow a woman on top and woman are not standing up for them self (some I mean, most are smart ladies and strong) men will NOT let a smarter woman with solutions win.
Posted by: Texas lobo | February 24, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Ben Smith, at Politico:
Newsday’s Glenn Thrush has that rarest of things: A new chapter to the Hillary’s biography, and one that cuts sharply against a central part of her image: That she’s spent her whole career fighting for children:
[T]here is a little-known episode Clinton doesn’t mention in her standard campaign speech in which those two principles collided. In 1975, a 27-year-old Hillary Rodham, acting as a court-appointed attorney, attacked the credibility of a 12-year-old girl in mounting an aggressive defense for an indigent client accused of rape in Arkansas – using her child development background to help the defendant.
[snip]
[Clinton's] account leaves out a significant aspect of her defense strategy – attempting to impugn the credibility of the victim, according to aNewsday examination of court and investigative files and interviews with witnesses, law enforcement officials and the victim.
Rodham, records show, questioned the sixth grader’s honesty and claimed she had made false accusations in the past. She implied that the girl often fantasized and sought out “older men” like Taylor, according to a July 1975 affidavit signed “Hillary D. Rodham” in compact cursive.
Clinton’s aides point out, accurately, that she was bound to present her indigent client the best defense available, which she did: He was able to plead down to a much lesser offense.
But read the whole story. Thrush reconstructs the crime, Clinton’s role as a legal “bulldog,” and her defense through court and police documents, and interviews a range of parties, including the alleged victim.
It’s really an astonishingly good piece of reporting.
Posted by: HarrietJ | February 24, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
After election, people will remember all
the good things Bill done for us in the
90′s. Before him replublican has created
a huge national debt and fiscal deficit,
Bill is the one to create budget surplus.
Thanks Bill.
Posted by: bancha | February 24, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
LAWYER HILLARY GRILLED 12-YEAR OLD OVER ‘RAPE’; attacked child’s credibility…
Yes, typical Drudge report title, but the actual story is pretty shocking.
Follow the link at Drudge to GLENN THRUSH’s remarkably documented article at the Newsday site.
Posted by: HarrietJ | February 24, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
Clinton was a good president.
But it is unseemly for him to suddenly re-appear, red faced and wagging his finger. It goes against the spirit of the 22nd amendment, and that’s why people react negatively. Americans aren’t comfortable with the concentration of power in the hands of a few elite families.
Posted by: Kansas Jack | February 25, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
I said it a month ago, and I’ll say it again here. When the history of this nomination is written, in the final summation it will all come down to two simple words: “fairy tale.”
Posted by: Thank God for Karma | February 25, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
NAFTA is not Bill Clinton’s issue. NAFTA put America in the global map and let America have access to the resources which were limited in US. In today’s global competition, America cannot grow in isolation or America will become a third world country. If someone who have lived in third world country knows what I am talking about.
Obama is for and against NAFTA. If Obama really believes NAFTA was wrong, I did not see any legislation about that in that regards till date.
Posted by: Humm | February 25, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
If Clinton was an Asset Obama should have been stopped on Super Tuesday or in South Carolina. Hillary was doing very well until Bill came along and ran his big mouth. I guess you guys know the rest of the story.
Posted by: Owen Hill | February 25, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
Well well please look at these two articles: Louis Farrakhan Endorses Obama at “Saviours’ Day” Event in Chicago: A Tale of Who Shall Be King
February 24th, 2008 by DR. CLARISSA PINKOLA ESTÉS
The Associated Press reports today that Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan “says presidential candidate Barack Obama represents hope that the United States will change for the better.”
Google the MODERATE VOICE
Now, by this, his sound relationship with Farrakhan is clearly shown.
Next Obama’s deceptive pro-Israel stance.
Look who is his Middle East Advisor is. This advisor’s father was a once close friend of Yasser Arafat, clearly pro-Palestine.
Google Simon Malley and American Thinker
Obama once replied:
The attacks, mainly anonymous e-mails, have woven together various threads — his middle name –”Hussein;” schooling in Muslim Indonesia; his Chicago pastor’s embrace of the anti-Semitic leader of the Nation of Islam, Louis Farrakhan; and his calls for dialogue with Iran — to portray Obama as the Muslim Manchurian candidate.
Leading American Jewish organizations have denounced these “hateful e-mails.” Obama has condemned Farrakhan’s anti-Semitism and made clear he disagrees with his pastor, the Rev. Jerermiah A. Wright Jr., whose magazine honored Farrakhan last year. But he’s not broken with Wright, the man who ushered him to his Christian faith.
Posted by: Deeply concerned | February 25, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
Since so many of you think that the press is hating on Hillary, have you ever stopped to think how come? Did you do any investigating into why the occassionally contentious association between the press and the Clintons developed? I suggest some of you do that and then you will realize that sometimes things have to travel the long way around before they arrive back to bite you in the rear. The old saying that you reap what you sow might be used here also.
The press has a long memory right Jake?
Posted by: Chip | February 25, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
When I hear garbage stuff about Obama’s past, I go and donate some money for his cause.Yes I have a master’s degree and yes I make more than 100k a year.
I just feel pity for people who have nothing but hate in their heart. Obama will make a great president. Because it will be the easy and right thing to do. Hillary will also make a great president and if mcCain lives thru the entire 4 years, he will make a great president too.
Posted by: Al, San Francisco | February 25, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
It’s a shame that the media has not done their job and applied the same scrutiny concerning Barack Obama’s past as they have Hillary Clinton’s past. It seems that ordinary citizens have done more to uncover facts (which are not all good) about this man than the cable news stations or local newspapers. Hmmm I wonder why that is? When I hear “garbage stuff” about Barack Obama I donate to Hillary (HillaryClinton.com) Go Hillary! Can’t wait to see her debate in Ohio, and again prove why she should be our 44th president’
Posted by: Carrie | February 25, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
Bill Clinton is the Cool-Dude-in-Chief. Hillary would have already been out of this race if he hadn’t intervened in New Hampshire. History will shed light on the strategy that Bill used, and it will prove to have been an effective one.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | February 25, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
Hey Mr. Al Cum-ba-ya guy,
You have to agree that Hillary has more experience. If you don’t agree with this then you haven’t done your homework. You have to agree that Obama has a lightweight record in the Senate. Again, homework. You also have to agree that McCain wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years, which would mean many trillions of our money. Shall I say homework one more time. The right candidate is undoubtedly Hillary Clinton. If you can’t arrive at that determination after completing your homework, then you get an F.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | February 25, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am
if experience mean just counting the years going then no one will beat any Homeless. but if experience mean doing something during those years then Clinton can not claim any experience.
Posted by: leche_the_samurai | February 25, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am
The best political gift of the day for Barack Obama’s campaign has been served up by Iowa’s Des Moines Register, the largest newspaper in the swing state that put the Illinois senator on top in possible head-to-head match-ups in the fall election.
The poll shows Obama ahead of Republican nominee John McCain by a substantial margin, 53-36. A head-to-head match between McCain and Hillary Clinton shows McCain is the preferred choice, 49-40.
Posted by: Sam | February 25, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am
WestCoastMessenger,
Hillary’s Debate closing is a clear proof that she has more experience…Even her best moment is made out of XEROXING one sentence from John Edward and another fro m her hubby….SO, yes she has way more experience than Obama in Xeroxing.
PROBLEM is good part of her experience is disqualifying for the job of Presidency, like sending job overseas (Wal-mart, Nafta).
Hey you may want to talk her into sending your job overseas in exchange for your vote for her.
Posted by: moeen | February 25, 2008, 3:10 am 3:10 am
No! The Obama people might check out what he did for this country! Rather than slander and president.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/bc42.html
Hillary is best choice!
Posted by: Jim | February 25, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am
Clintons ARE Caught-up in fire! Cheat people once but teach people always. Clintons (Bill & Hill) have done enough to be in liability side of the americans hope. They try to win at all cost…cheating, recycling of words and even promises have never worked for their side. They are just ” New bottles but the same old wine!!”
Posted by: Paul | February 25, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am
No rest, no best! Clinton camp is gone, outdated…it is just an ‘OLD WINE IN THE NEW BOTTLE’ …new promises from Hillary & Bill are no where to move Americans dreams now…
Obama is the only clear-cut option for American inspiration.
Posted by: Paul | February 25, 2008, 4:39 am 4:39 am
The media hasn’t been unfair to Hillary. She and Bill received an 8 year pass from a complicit media when he was president. He replaced all the U.S. Attorneys and had an attorney general who winked at his corruption. An honest press was badly needed. Instead we got partisans. If the press isn’t killing negative news, tossing her softballs, and licking her hand, then she feels as if she is being picked on. Yes, Obama has gotten a pass so far. Hillary is in no position to complain.
Posted by: Sinecure | February 25, 2008, 7:03 am 7:03 am
TO JIm…
Glad to see your post. Too bad some people won’t even bother to look. They are so close minded and only go with the flow, instead of looking up facts. No matter where you go, you will be insulted if you show facts. They won’t look. They don’t care. They just want a savior, a unifier, a cool president. Very scary! Good luck!
Posted by: Catmacdee | February 25, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am
Obama is questioned on his patriotism and Michelle is also. Obama says, “well I’ll just tell the truth” and Michelle says, “I just misspoke”.
It’s good to see this works for some people – it sure hasn’t been the case with the Clintons.
Posted by: american2 | February 25, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am
ONCE AGAIN, JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF OBAMA AND NAFTA…
Today, Sen. Obama said the following:
And yesterday, Senator Clinton also said I’m wrong to point out that she once supported NAFTA. But the fact is, she was saying great things about NAFTA until she started running for President.
This is false. Hillary criticized Sen. Obama for sending out a mailer that claimed she said NAFTA was a “boon to the economy” when she never did. Today, the University of Pennsylvania’s FactCheck.org concluded “We do judge that the Obama campaign is wrong to quote Clinton as using words she never uttered, and it has produced little evidence that she ever had strong praise of any sort for NAFTA’s economic benefits.”
Also, Hillary has been critical of NAFTA long before she started running for President. For example, here’s Hillary in March 2000:
What happened to NAFTA I think was we inherited an agreement that we didn’t get everything we should have got out of it in my opinion. I think the NAFTA agreement was flawed. The problem is we have to go back and figure out how we are going to fix that. [Working Families Party, 3/26/00]
Sen. Obama touts his consistent opposition to NAFTA. But speaking in Illinois in 2004 Obama said the United States “benefited enormously” from exports under NAFTA and talked about the need to continue to pursue trade agreement like NAFTA that support “a system of free trade in this nation that allows us to move our products overseas.”
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Posted by: Catmacdee | February 25, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am
Bill has done a great job for this country which will forever be in our memory.They are uncountable.Despite all these,Amerians would like to see a new kind of plolicies in WASHINGTON.The world is changing and people are just tired with the BUSHES and CLINTONS old policies.
Posted by: I.A.T Smith | February 25, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am
Obama is the first presidential candidate to officially declare his/her support for the NAFTA expansion moving through the Congress. His announcement is not necessarily surprising, considering he was the keynote speaker at the launch of the Hamilton Project — a Wall Street front group working to DRIVE A WEDGE between Democrats and organized LABOR on globalization issues. His announcement comes just days after a Wall Street Journal poll found strong bipartisan opposition to lobbyist-written NAFTA-style trade policies. Clinton and Obama vote for Peru NAFTA
deal
Vote for Barack Obama if you want to, but please do it with your eyes open and with the knowledge that Rupert Murdoch — possibly the worst corporate media CEO around — has endorsed Obama and is using all the resources of his media empire to help Obama and destroy Hillary Clinton (one has to wonder what Rupert Murdoch hopes to gain from an Obama presidency and fears from a Clinton presidency). And bear in mind that Obama chose as his senate “mentor” the loathsome Joe Lieberman, whose gleefulness in voting with the Republicans and against the Democrats
made Lieberman (at the time Obama chose him as his mentor) one of the most despised Democrats in the senate.
So, to sum up: When Barack Obama had the chance to vote against NAFTA, he voted, instead, to expand NAFTA.
Posted by: Catmacdee | February 25, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am
Wearing an American Flag Lapel pin; holding your hand over your heart during the singing of the National Anthem; neither of these actions can seriously be believed as indicators of a person’s patriotism or lack there of. I think the majority of people would agree to this. Trying to understand when someone say’s they “misspoke”, seems a good idea as well. Is it also fair to say that a former President, who has a history of championing for civil rights, might be sincere when he explained the two statements he made that received much criticism?
Posted by: american2 | February 25, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Bill needs to “get a life”………….does he really believe he is running for his third term?
Posted by: Vectorpedia (Rick) | February 25, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
I’m just sick of the Clintons. ALL DRAMA…NO SUBSTANCE.
I consider myself to be a Christian, and I strongly resent Hillary’s analogy of Obama’s campaign to heaven. The skies opening up, the light shinning down, celestial choirs, everything is perfect. Mockery along those lines should be totally off limits.
Americans are capable of making up their own minds. GO AWAY BILL AND TAKE HILLARY WITH YOU!!
Posted by: Feed Up in Texas | February 25, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
This is a quote from a bestseller biography written by one of the same reporters who investigated Watergate and co-authored another famous book that was made into a popular movie. You have probably heard him talk about her on tv very recently, and if so know that he is far from always speaking favorably of her. However this passage from his book I think speaks for itself as to her faith: “Aside from her family, Hillary’s Methodism is perhaps the most important foundation of her character. As one of her aides said during the winter’s night of the lewinsky epoch, “Hillary’s faith is the link…It explains the missionary zeal with which she attacks her issues and goes after them, and why she’s done it for thirty years. And, it also explains the really extraordinary self-discipline and focus and ability to rely on her spirituality to get through all this…She’s a woman of tremendous faith. Again, not advertised. She’s not one of those people who’s out there doing the holy roller stuff. But that’s how she gets through it: some people go to shrinks, she does it by being a Methodist.”
Posted by: american2 | February 25, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
President Bill Clinton was smart to realise that Obama’s “Change” is a “Fairy Tale”. I read one of the Al Gore’s interview and he said that results for decision taken in the business can be quick than in the Washington. So, if the Media and Obama feels that Bill Clinton is wrong and they are right then they are dreaming.
Posted by: Humm | February 25, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Hillary can toss insults about the skies opening when Obama speaks. Still won’t get her elected.
She should stick to the issues – if she can’t win on those, than it’s her own fault.
As for following that link to Drudge, I don’t think I can handle that story if it is true. Wish a ‘real’ paper would investigate it. But then, a ‘real’ newspaper investigated the McCain Drudge story, and look where that got them…
Posted by: Chicka | February 25, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
This is off subject but I want to apologize to my fellow bloggers and thank the moderators here for forcing me to take a deep breath last night. I completely lost my temper which I do not often do and needed to step back. So please accept my apology and thank you moderators.
On subject – yes Bill is a liability many people do not want another Clinton in office. I know I don’t. While I am not an Obama supporter I would rather see him get the nomination than Hillary.
Posted by: KC in NC | February 25, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
Short answer: YES!
Posted by: chuck | February 25, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
yes, yes and yes. She wants to campaign as if his presidential experience aslo counts as hers. She wants to take at least partial credit for his accomplishments and no association with his failures. All that adds up to a second co-presidency. No way she can be viewed and a straong leader when everyone will be looking for the ‘real’ answer from the guy sitting next to her.
Posted by: Louis | February 25, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
I suspect something. Bill did everything to let GORE fail. Now he is doing the same with his own wife – he is cheating her for a second time. Bravo, BILL, your EGO is so big.!!!!
Posted by: Denis van Dam | February 25, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Bill is not the problem….Obama IS!
The Republicans want Obama because they have a plan to tear him down.
“Nonetheless, the “most liberal” charge is likely to be heard early and often should Obama emerge as the Democratic nominee, particularly as it appears at odds with his insistence that he will reach across the aisle and shift the political calculus away from the bitter antagonism of recent years.
“There’s a lot of uncertainty about how he would govern and how he would put into practice what we think of as bipartisanship given what we know about his Senate record,” said Sarah Binder, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and an expert on Congress.”
Posted by: JJ | February 26, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
catmacdee, why are you just quoting lines without doing any real research to test the validity of your statements. read Hillary’s book and you will find that she did praise NAFTA. Explore her alleged quotes from Obama a little closer and you will see that on her flier she cut and pasted without the entire truth to misrepresent Obama. And her mockery of his speeches show her as being a little unstable.
Posted by: rle | February 26, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm