Clinton Camp Threatens to Boycott NBC Debates Because of Comments About Chelsea Being “Pimped Out”
On a conference call Friday afternoon, Clinton campaign communications director Howard Wolfson suggested the campaign might boycott NBC debates given a "pattern" of comments made by MSNBC hosts.
Wolfson was referring to MSNBC’s Chris Matthews, anchor of "Hardball," and David Shuster, a correspondent and fill-in anchor on the cable network.
Shuster on Thursday, suggesting it was "a little bit unseemly to me that Chelsea’s out there calling up celebrities, saying support my mom, and she’s apparently also calling these super delegates," asked, "doesn’t it seem like Chelsea’s sort of being pimped out in some weird sort of way?"
Wolfson called the comment "disgusting" and "beneath contempt…It’s the kind of thing that should never be said on a national news network."
He said that Clinton has participated in "a number of debates on that network. We had agreed yesterday to do a debate on that network. And I at this point can’t envision a scenario where we would continue to engage in debates on that network given the comments that were made and have been made."
Referencing Matthews’ comments and subsequent on-air apology last month, Wolfson asked, "I think at some point you really have to question whether or not there is a pattern here at this particular network where you have comments being made and then apologies given."
On MSNBC’s "Morning Joe" Friday morning, Shuster called in and said "Last night I used a phrase, some slang about her efforts. I didn’t think that people would take it literally, but some people have, and to the extent that people feel I was being pejorative about the actions of Chelsea Clinton making these phone calls, to the extent that people feel I was being pejorative, I apologize for that. I should have seen people would see it that way. I’m sorry."
Wolfson said neither Chelsea nor Sen. Clinton had received an apology from Shuster.
Last month, Matthews apologized on air for, as he put it, "imply(ing) that Hillary’s whole career depended on being a victim of an unfaithful husband."
Wolfson said Matthews, as far as he knew, never personally apologized to Clinton either.
"Is this part of a pattern?" Wolfson asked about the comments. "Is there something that folks are encouraged to do or not do? I don’t know, but the comment was beneath contempt and I think any fair-minded person would see it that way."
Do you?
– jpt
UPDATE: NBC NEWS STATEMENT REGARDING CHELSEA CLINTON COMMENT:
"On Thursday’s ‘Tucker’ on MSNBC, David Shuster, who was serving as guest-host of the program, made a comment about Chelsea Clinton and the Clinton campaign that was irresponsible and inappropriate. Shuster, who apologized this morning on MSNBC and will again this evening, has been suspended from appearing on all NBC News broadcasts, other than to make his apology. He has also extended an apology to the Clinton family. NBC News takes these matters seriously, and offers our sincere regrets to the Clintons for the remarks."
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Clinton not appearing in debates because of a slang expression regarding her daughter? Woo-hoo! The system works!
Posted by: Publius | February 8, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
they can go.hell what do the clintons take americans for?
Posted by: mike | February 8, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
I agree…..
Clearly the media have been bias in this election on both sides.
All the newtworks should be called the OBAMA Network anyway…..
Posted by: texas | February 8, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
It is an accurate use of the term. It is exactly what they are doing. Using their daughter for their own personal gain. I don’t believe Chelsea is getting paid, she has not held political office. Unless we are counting First daughter along with First lady as a political position. They are trading on their daughter’s political innocence.
Posted by: Louis | February 8, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Ironic because HRC does it all the time. The pitch is:
This is all about winning the news cycle. If the talking heads are talking about stupid stuff they won’t be talking about the Bad Clinton MoJo out there.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | February 8, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
The BIG problem for America today isn’t the war in Iraq and it’s not the Democrats or the Republicans……………it’s the most corrupt institution in America, our MSM wolfpack press.
All Americans are watching the most corrupt press in the world “promote” Obama over all others.
Posted by: Allen Ridge | February 8, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
I remember when Clinton was in power and Chelsea was just a kid the media were constantly putting down her looks and making disgusting comments about her looks, as she was in an awkward stage. American media is nothing but a dumbing down of public information and slandering those they want to control. Chelsea has been used as a pawn and the media is again cannibilizing her. Where is real media in the US? They treat Americans as if they were dumb as stumps and after a lot of years the are living up to the media’s view of them.
Mean and ugly.
Posted by: gael koob | February 8, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
You mean we can finally say goodbye to the Clintons?
Posted by: lukas | February 8, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Whoa! You kidding me? Here we have the Clinton campaign practically begging on their hands and knees for Obama to debate them every week on one day, and now the next, they suggest boycotting debates because of some stupid pundit comment about Chelsea. Give me a break. This is just another one of their “play the woman as victim card” gimmick, that’s all. How desperate is the Clinton machine anyway? Pathetic, just pathetic.
Posted by: Cedrid | February 8, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Perhaps the Clintons are starting to realize what the rest of America already knows – MSNBC is just a huge piece of garbage. From Imus to Matthews to Obermann to Abrams. There is just a tremendous amount of deceitful, racist and anti-american stuff being pumped out by that station every night.
MSNBC just keeps getting more outrageous because they cannot compete in the ratings war that they have been losing with Fox and CNN for a number of years now.
It is funny how the Democrats do not say a word when the slander is directed towards Republicans but get so upset when it is thrown at them.
Posted by: Robert Marley | February 8, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Disgusting. The media has made me sick, and are the butt of jokes concerning the media hype involving a candidate running on a platform of nothing but rhetoric. This is only one example of their pointed use of language. Everything said about one candidate is rose-colored and pretty, and everything said about the other is skewed and condenscending.
Posted by: Benjamin | February 8, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Frankly, I think the Clintons are correct. Media big mouths like Matthews and Shuster know that words are powerful. They are rude and crude and they pass that along to their listeners. The whole society just gets ruder and cruder.
Posted by: dyannne | February 8, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Family support has been demonstrated by the Clintons over and over again. With all there is to dislike about them, to attack and make these sort of remarks about family participating in the campaign only lessens the attacker.
Posted by: flyover | February 8, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Say what? OK, fess up. What is the real reason Hillary does not want to appear? No one could be that thin-skinned, let alone politicians.
Posted by: Sarah | February 8, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
all the networks have been for obama if they get a chance they find something to say something about hillarys campaign or the clinton family. it is the obama network by the way where is he getting all the money mabye from opra.
Posted by: chuckac | February 8, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Just like Bush, say something that “hurts” and they come after you. NBC seems to be the only fair reporting of anyone, they go after everyone. Chris Matthews is right to be tough on Clinton, they have much pig crap on them someone has to scrape some off to see if a person is actually in there. And why is CNN letting Hillary give a post Fla speech and reporting super delegate counts?? It’s obvious where real bias is.
Posted by: Just Like Bush | February 8, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Chris Matthews and the other guy are sleeze bags and are jealous of Hillary and have to criticize their daughter because they can’t get to Hillary herself (Teflon Hillary)…….Chris Matthews and that other guy are so funny! They have issues with females, and it’s probably something Freudian like they had trouble with their mama’s at an early age and now can only criticize women to look good ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Posted by: Hillary | February 8, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
If she is working the campain then she is open for comment. Just like all the others have been.
What is this? King Bill and Queen Hillary rulling all of us?
Posted by: Jim Rod | February 8, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
If the Clinton’s take the oval office, I’m afraid all comments in the media will be subject to review.
Posted by: toddy | February 8, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
I have to agree with other opinions here.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck……it’s usually a duck.
It does seem as though Chelsea is being pimped out for her parents’ gain.
Posted by: Rebecca | February 8, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
No, I don’t. Mr. Shuster’s words were ill-conceived and poorly chosen, and he apologized. Mr. Matthews’ words were the same and he apologized. There is absolutely no indication that a “pattern” is emerging on MSNBC.
Instead, Mr. Wolfson is attempting to engage in a variation of the game I previously mentioned here, “Could You Possibly Be More Offended Than I?” Here, he acts as if there’s a conspiracy to slander his candidate, all the while taking offense and acting as an extremely aggrieved party. What is “beneath contempt” is Mr. Wolfson’s attitude.
Posted by: chuck | February 8, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
The media is up there with a used car salesman. Talks down about why you won’t want to buy the high performance sports car, but somehow sells you the underpowered piece of junk that falls apart in a week…all about the language and the selling points, and the media needs stories to keep people watching. THEY are the ones “pimping” themselves to the Obama campaign.
I don’t understand why anyone would skew a daughter working to help her own Mother out. That is family values, and it should be RESPECTED!!
Posted by: Benjamin | February 8, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Yes, both comments were unnecessarily cold; the Matthews comment — “imply(ing) that Hillary’s whole career depended on being a victim of an unfaithful husband” being the worser of the two.
Posted by: NanC | February 8, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
I too am discusted with the coverage of the Clinton campaign by Chris Mathews, David Schuster and Keith Oberman. They are way out of line and I will not watch any longer. If we all stop watching maybe they will get the message and give us fair and balanced. Joe Scarborough is the only one with an open mind.
Posted by: George Pratt | February 8, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
It’s too bad the Clintons can throw mud but aren’t happy when it’s being thrown right back at them. After the nasty campaign they’ve been running they deserve everything they get. Chelsea included.
Posted by: Janet | February 8, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
i cant’t watch msnbc any more it’s a obama
network,i wish they could balance and fair.
Posted by: jerry | February 8, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Janet,
i think it’s a little different when someone calls your kid, “pimped out” well maybe not ot you, but to me it is .
Posted by: eleven22 | February 8, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
I don’t see MSNBC for that same reason, Media big mouths like Matthews and Shuster are always in attack mode towards Clinton, They shuld give the total scoop on Obama and Rezco, and the Nuclear leaks in Illinois and the money given to Obama. Be fair and balance with both candidate. I don’t see that spitting cobra (Matthews) any more.
Posted by: Charles | February 8, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Boo Hoo, I won’t attend a debate because my daughter was called a name. Boo hoo. Hey Hill, how about be happy you are invited to debates and not barred like Ron Paul. Boo hoo, I cry alot.
Posted by: TimG | February 8, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Senator Clinton has always had a hands off policy (with the media) when it came to her daughter. I’m glad to see that it still holds. The media can find plenty to talk about concerning Senator and former President Clinton.
Posted by: Itsddr | February 8, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
I too am discusted with the coverage of the Clinton campaign by Chris Mathews, David Schuster and Keith Oberman. They are way out of line and I will not watch any longer. If we all stop watching maybe they will get the message and give us fair and balanced. Joe Scarborough is the only one with an open mind.
Posted by: George Pratt | February 8, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Does this mean Obama is missing out on an opportunity to debate against Hillary on substantive issues because of this? Or is the reason for running this story just a way for ABC to slam a rival network? I don’t get it.
Posted by: eric | February 8, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
I think it is the fact the MSNBC is the same station that Imus made his famous remarks that offended a female college basketball team and many other people. These comments about Chelsea are just as stupid and offensive from the same station. Imagine if the person he was referring to being “pimped out” was Michelle Obama. That would be all over the news for many reasons!
Posted by: John | February 8, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Chelsea is a kind and caring human being. Shame on you people!
Posted by: Anita | February 8, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
If Chelsea were a six-year old kid and used in political commericals and made a focal point of the campaign, that kind of comment might make sense. But she is a grown woman who is perfectly capable of acting on her own behalf and I don’t see criticism of other adult children of candidates who actively support their parent described as being “pimped out”. Remember that when the Clintons were in the White House, they made huge efforts to shield Chelsea from the media. I don’t see this kind of mud being slung at the Obamas for bringing out their young children to rallies. The bias is obvious here.
Posted by: Ravnwing | February 8, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
I am so tired of hearing that Hillary objects to this and that being said about her and her campaign. If she has plans of being in the White House, she needs to toughen up. Face it, your kids are fair game nowdays in the media. Should they be, NO. But, they are, its a fact of life. If you don’t want them scrutinized, then get out of the public eye.
Posted by: Sammi | February 8, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
I never did like Chris Matthews for his comments and not only on Chelsea. He has stressed comments about Hillary in a round about fashion.And Shuster is in the same category. This is not in good taste for new media’s to make bad comments on candidates families or the candidate themselves. Wolf Blitzer never makes comments about any candidate and is well respected in the news media. I think it is great for Chelsea to campaign for her mother. Why not? Romney’s sons were campaigning for him before he dropped out. It is good for their children to meet and greet people on the campaign trail.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | February 8, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Come on people. Look at what some of you are typing here. They are the mud slingers along with their campain people. But yet when someone says somthing about the Clintons you all come out saying things as if they where gods and could do no wrong. Get a grip and open your eyes and look through the hype. These people are non-convicted crooks and family value cheaters. The say what they want and pay lawyers and them selves to protect their comments. get a grip and open your eyes.
If they get in we will surly have China applying for statehood.
Posted by: Jim Rod | February 8, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
The media is entering a realm which is beyond disrespect. I don’t believe it would have been acceptable (tolerated) or appropriate to comment in such a way about Amy Carter, the Ford, Reagan or Bush children (even when George W. Bush himself suggested using the very menacing ‘Willie Horton’ ad against Gov. Dukakis when George H.W. was campaigning).
This is a former First Family. There was a time when no matter what your political affiliation (or lack thereof) — the U.S. citizens would give at least a modicrum of respect to this fact. The treatment and disdain for these individuals (the Clinton family) as well as outright disgusting slurs is only an indication where this country is heading and how this campaign is being directed by a news media wholly unqualified in proper journalism and decent, moral standards.
The dumbing down of America has spawned some very ugly ignorance and rancor.
Posted by: tjaderjazz | February 8, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
So now Hilary stomps her feet and gets mad at a commentor’s view but she can dish it out and slam others and it’s ok- what a sad sack of *hit
Posted by: Tina | February 8, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Answer: Free speech. Question: What is the next basic American right to erode if there is another Clinton Administration?
She has no shame.
Posted by: americanrefugee_eu | February 8, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Clinton offened please give me a break,this is the same man who went on national TV,and proclaimed his innocense about not having sex with that woman Marilyn W.who?,Who turned out to be a big liar,yes I said it,and the next comment is dont judge,I didnt then and dont now,he did that all to himself.heres a man who’s been pimped out himself-how many woman claimed they slept with him?
Posted by: Marrvin | February 8, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
I agree with Sarah 2:33:31 and Publius 2:19:35. I can’t believe the Clintons and their supporters are so being so thin-skinned. How do they expect to manage if they win the nomination and the “Right Wing Conspiracy” begins again? By the way the Republicans are just salivating at the thought getting Bill & Hill in their lives again.
They had better toughen up.
Posted by: KenT | February 8, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
It’s not a matter of whether anyone (viewers or the Clinton family) “felt he was being literal” – or pejorative-, as Shuster says; that kind of slang terminology is inappropriate for a respectable news organization. I can’t imagine Tom Brokaw referring to the daughter of a former president in that fashion. Clinton should boycott NBC.
Posted by: Nola47 | February 8, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
If he had used the work “exploited” instead of “pimped out” we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
Posted by: Nuny | February 8, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Were Shuster’s comments over the line?
Yes.
Is the Clinton campaign “milking” it for free air time, since they’re short of cash?
Yes. (Now THAT is using Chelsea, shamelessly, for political purposes!)
This is exactly what happened after the so-called (and mythical) “snub” of Sen. Clinton by Obama at SOTU — which was totally distorted and overblown, BTW, by the very same people being accused today of being pro-Obama. She goes on tv the next morning and says — falsely — “I extended my hand in unity and friendship.” Oh, please! Look at the photo: she’s looking right at Sen. Kennedy.
Sen. Clinton is absolutely shameless.
Say anything, do anything — even exploit, and give wider circulation to, a tasteless comment about your own daughter. We so don’t need these people back in the WH!
Posted by: jac13-VA | February 8, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Let’s see. A grown women campaigns for someone (in this case her mother) and she is being “pimped out”. So following that logic…Oprah and his wife are being “pimped out” by Obama?
I thought they were just working to get someone elected who they love and admire
Posted by: woody02038 | February 8, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Princess Chelea is now what 25 or 26 years old lining wiwth her boyfriend. She is an adult not some kid drug to Washington Dc Because of Mommy and Daddy. I had no problem with child Chelsea being protected from the media. Chelsae the adult however is another story. If she chooses to capmaign for her mother or anyone else the she is fair game whether it is MSNBC or an elementary school reporter.
She has always struck me as snooty and spoiled and very pampered. As my grandmother used to say “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.”
She should be polite and gracious to people, yes even elemntary school journalists. If she can’t she should stay with her boyfriend and her hedgerow accounts.
Posted by: jenny | February 8, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
The Chris Matthews show is a cesspool of misogyny.
Posted by: kc | February 8, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Oh for goodness sake. These Clintons are THE best!!!! First they badger Obama for debates because they mishandled their campaign funds and needed free advertisement and now they want to boycott them because of a ‘slur’. What slur?!?!? They are pimpin’ Chelsea. I only had to look at ABC’s The View to see that she had called the ladies. Still waitng to hear if she called Barbara Walters. She even called Elisabeth after she said Chelsea had not called her.
All they were trying to do was get free advertising. They KNEW those ladies would mention it. This only proves the polls are correct – Obama IS making headway into her base – WOMEN.
By the way – he’s got this one on board.
Finally, instead of portraying Obama as a rookie, show us your tax returns. Every person who runs for the presidency should be required to do so.
Posted by: Ingrid | February 8, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Oh, Oh. I hope this doesn’t mean the tears are flowing again. Come Hillary you’re a big girl!
Posted by: Clara | February 8, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Hillary is using this to garner sympathy. Your a fool if you think this really upset her or that her recently televised tears are real. EVERYTHING this woman does is politically calculated, even the fake crying! They want to use Chelsea for the campaign yet they expect her to be off-limits. Don’t let yourself be fooled by her act.
Posted by: curt | February 8, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
I love this country, I just can’t ever picture Hillary Clinton running it! It will be like another LBJ era, which in my mind started this great nation on its present down hill slide!
Posted by: 312 capri | February 8, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Sammi: There is a difference between discussing Chelsea on the campaign trail and making snide remarks. Like I stated before it is better to make a good comment rather than a snidy one for a candidate’s family member. Chelsea campaigning is great and Hillary wouldn’t be a mother if she didn’t defend her daughter. You would and so would I. Hillary has a very refined daughter brought up in the right manner and now she can get out and get to know different people. This is good for all candidate’s children. They learn politics that way.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | February 8, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Would he use the word pimp if she was a son?
Posted by: mary | February 8, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
I’m running out of cable channels to see. Foxnews out MSNBC out, Hopefully CNN stays balanced.I don’t mind when it goes both ways, but MSNBC is as fair and balanced as Foxnews.
Posted by: Charles | February 8, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Perhaps the use of Chelsea for Hilarys campaign will remind Americans that Character does count!
Posted by: shlomo | February 8, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Chelsea is calling all the networks the talk shows and rah rahing her mother’s campaign. If Hilary wants hand’s off Chelsea she has to stop using her as a megaphone. Hilary reminds me of a barcuda- surprised she hasn’t eaten her young, she seems to take a bite out of everything else. Her policies and programs will not help the average american but rather the people she wants to hang out with. Her health plan will allow others to decide if you are worthy of treatment, and her idea previously that if you are not doing a good enough job of raising your child maybe the government should do it, put her in line for a different type of award-one even I won’t publish here.
Posted by: Tina | February 8, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
who knew????? you mean she ain’t being pimped out????? who knew?????
Posted by: fred | February 8, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
I have heard much worse from liberals and the liberal media about the Bush twins and I say turn about is fair play dont debate Hillary so what you dont answer any hard questions anyway.
Posted by: Mr American | February 8, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
why is it that the Clintons can dish it out but can not take it in return?
Posted by: Daniel J. Baranuk | February 8, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
The comments made by Shuster are absolutely right…and I hear that poor little Chelsea is taking time off from school to help her mom…she is getting PIMPED OUT by her parents point blank. If you can’t stand the heat get out the kitchen!
Posted by: Mine Sweeper | February 8, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Get America back on Track I do not see it your way so I guess that means it is not one sided. Its only one sided if thats the way YOU want it to be. Freedom of the press is at work here if you like it or not. If you like red and I tell you no you like blue does that mean you are going to like what I tell you to like. If so, then it sounds like you are one sided and one of the millions of blind believers that follow these people to the end. Good luck! Your going to need it and wish it.
Posted by: Jim Rod | February 8, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Thank God we won’t have to listen to Hillary jabber on and on when she’s asked a question. She never does answer the direct question but starts to jabber about how wonderful she is/was. Get to the point Hillary! At least MSNBC won’t be her way to “free” campaigning seeing how she’s short on dough. We all know how she stands on the issues as well as Obama, and they’re really not debates either. They’re simply ultra civil conversations that really don’t tell us much, mostly since Hillary makes up things as she goes. If Chelsea takes offense to what the anchors on MSNBC are saying, she should write in or call in to set them straight. She’s old enough not to have Mom or Dad fight her battles. Let’s hear from Chelsea!
Posted by: Sandra Johanson | February 8, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
Bill Clintons feelings got hurt,because someone said they pimped out his daughter,what about all those woman hed pimped out,and their families,I guess they dont have feelings or count.The Clintons are always touchy and demanding,only when they arent getting what they want.And anytime someone speaks bad about them,its always an issue.Now they should know how everyone else feels.Also they are fault finders about everyone else,and to hell with you if you point fingers at them.
Posted by: Marrvin | February 8, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Bill Clintons feelings got hurt,because someone said they pimped out his daughter,what about all those woman hed pimped out,and their families,I guess they dont have feelings or count.The Clintons are always touchy and demanding,only when they arent getting what they want.And anytime someone speaks bad about them,its always an issue.Now they should know how everyone else feels.Also they are fault finders about everyone else,and to hell with you if you point fingers at them.
Posted by: Marrvin | February 8, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
After the IMESS laid his pile of stink on that place, it will be hard to ever recover from that. I see Olbermann and Dan Abrams as the last two SAVIORS left to prop up that place, and I like Olbermanns show a lot. I also like Kucinich, Obama, and Clinton, etc. so don’t go by what I say…Jack “the welch” Welch the GE clown which nbc let on the MORNING JOE show the other day said the IRAQ war spending was “CHIMP CHANGE”. Shows you a ton what the aroma is around there these days…
Posted by: daddyblue | February 8, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Oh please! If Hillary Clinton does want positive or negative comments made about her “precious” daughter than she should not “pimp her out” (yes…I said it) for political gain. Over the years the media has been very respectful of Chelsea privacy, but wants she crossed that line and made herself part of the news…by publicly campaigning for her mother…all beats were off on repsecting her privacy. You can have it both ways…either go back to your over-priced Manhattan loft apartment with your over-bloated salary and stay out of the limelight or continuing helping your mother and just deal with the media comments.
I really don’t care either way…I just simply hope that the Clintons do not win. I do not want another four seasons of “Dallas” in the White House again. Eight years was enough. As much as I really don’t like Mitt Romney…I have to agree with his statement, “the idea of Bill Clinton in the White House with nothing to do frightens me.”
I am a lifelong Democrat, but I have really turned off by the Clintons and their actions since New Hampshire. I have finally seen these people for what they really are…pompous, arrogant and an air of entitlement. If the Clintons win the nomination…
Posted by: Kennedy | February 8, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Stop crying like it’s fourth grade. This lady is running for president? What if some head of state calls her a mean name, is she going to resign or go into a state of hysteria? Get over it. Sticks and Stones, Hillary, Sticks and Stones…
Posted by: Mike Windgren | February 8, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Minesweeper. Chelsea is thru school and out in the business world and living with her boyfriend. She is an adult. She makes her own choices and needs to fight her own battles.
Posted by: jenny | February 8, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
What’s happening to msnbc? I watch or tivo all the programs from morning joe to the primetime newscasts. This treatment that is given towards the Clintons and now Chelsea is disgusting. Michelle Obama and Elizabeth Edwards also have big mean mouths. Dan Abrams even made a comment of his show the other night that even if Hillary does well on SuperTuesday it will still be all about “the second coming” Obama. It really is becoming nauseating at how Obama is such a godsend, I no longer feel that way. Its such a turnoff. Thank god you have people like pat buchanan, craig crawford, dan abrams,chuck todd and tim russert talk in such a way that is middle of the road without all the nastiness. I used love joe s. david s. and chris m. but they are so sexist when it comes to Hillary.
Posted by: j hale | February 8, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Might be grounds for a law suit..defamation of character.
Posted by: BTL musings | February 8, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
The Clintons just can’t handle the truth. The are “pimping out” Chelsea to these super-delagates and celebrities. I swear, if the democratic nominee is picked by a pack of back-room power players, I will quit the democratic party for good. That is a slap in the face to all the Americans who voted and campaigned for their candidate. I don’t see why they can’t just give the nomination to the candidate with the most popular votes (gasp!) and adhere to the wishes of the American people (for once!)
Posted by: Charity | February 8, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Apologies don’t derail what was said, what was said at the time by these people was dispicable and was said by them because that is their truth when they said it!
Politics in america has reached an all time low thanks to media lowlifes like these people and it is about time that these types of people were cut off from the airwaves!
Some will ho and hum over it, if it was said about Michelle Obama, the outcry would be including racial inuendo’s and all sorts of other forms of slanderings!
Maybe the time has come to do a major step for America and boycot the debate, and shows the integrity of Obama for not even speaking out about the medias actions and continues to disprove his words he totes around on his stump! But he simply proves his worthlessness in allowing others to do his dirty work for him and he relishes in the discord it brings to his opposition!
The right thing to do now is retalliate and this week-end, vote enmass for Clinton to simply tell the media “We are not going to stand for this cheap type of journalism anymore”!
Posted by: me | February 8, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
As I understand it, “pimped out” does not mean that somebody put someone out on the street as a prostitute, although that was probably its origin. In the usages I’ve heard it means that somebody is trying to impress somebody with superficial appearances. In this case I’d say that the usage was absolutely accurate since the Clintons are triing to use Chelsea to do just that and Senator Clinton is because someone publicly pointed out her transparent little scheme.
Posted by: Publius | February 8, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
I refused to watch msnbc any more it’s Obama network,I wish they could be balance and fair like all the networks have been for obama if they get a chance they find something to say something about Hillary’s campaign or the Clinton family, by the way where is Obama getting all the money may be from opra. Chris Matthew list one thing that Obama did his past
Posted by: Kumarie | February 8, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
I don’t think HRC is that “thin-skinned,” the man dissed her daughter! Imagine how terrible that would feel as a parent.
BTW, this “journalist” couldn’t think of a better term than “pimped out?” Think of what this implys-. This girl that grew up in the public eye and never became a disgrace. She went to Stamford and then on to Oxford. She could eventually be president one day as well.
Have some respect.
Posted by: Deidre | February 8, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
I wonder how many parents here would react if someone accused them of pimping out their daughter?
Posted by: Dan | February 8, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
My goodness———-with EVERY news media website I check out there is something negative printed about the Clintons.
It is very clear that the Media is biased. Don’t worry Hillary, alot of voters can see through the hoopla—-this is why you are still standing strong!
Posted by: Rena | February 8, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Using the emotional appeal of your daughter to persuade the politically powerful is OK!???? I don’t care what you call it, this is Clinton scum politics!
Posted by: bob10001 | February 8, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
I heard those comments personally and they were as bad as they sound. I used to like Chris Matthews. He is getting waaaay too cocky. I think he thinks somehow he can drive the outcome of the race. He has that much power. That is dangerous. The night before Super Tuesday, David Shuster and Nora O’Donnell were practically gloating that Obama was going to win. All they needed were Obama t-shirts.
I voted for Obama, but I voted in one of the early primaries and now I realize I voted for the wrong reasons. I fell for this media frenzy. I am now supporting Hillary having done the research I should have done before I voted. I could kick myself, but some of you still have time. I would caution everyone to take a step back before you believe all this media frenzy. I think Senator Obama might be a good president — some day — but right now, too much is at stake. Hillary has her negatives, but we already know what those negatives are. MSNBC has been covering Obama as if he’s the “second coming.” No politician gets to that level without some skeletons so… we will see.
But I don’t blame the Clintons. Mitt Romney’s kids campaigned for their dad. Chelsea is an adult, and she’s very close to Hillary. I have read where she wanted to do this for her mom. She’s proud of her mom. Many of us could be that lucky to have a great kid like her.
Chris Matthews will have no show if the Clinton people don’t show up for interviews. David Shuster is just a jerk.
Posted by: MK | February 8, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
I think almost all the networks have been getting carried away in some way or the other during this election.
It’s like they’ve gone bonkers. Along with statements like these about Chelsea and the Clinton infidelity, half of the ethnic divisiveness that has occured in the race for president so far has originated with the news networks. I think they get some sick pleasure out of dividing up the votes into the “black vote”, “the white vote” and “the hispanic vote”.
This kind of “reporting” is lame and i don’t know if they’re doing it because the networks lack the drama they usually get sans Writers’ Strike.
Posted by: 08 | February 8, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
They didn’t “diss” Chelsea. The “dissed” Hillary for using her own daughter to sales talk super delagates into promising to cast their votes to Hillary. They were questioning how a parent could put her child in that position. Big deal. Boo hoo.
Posted by: maddymappo | February 8, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Seems like the trend downward lately. The “news” people acting rude and using crude language and behavior as a substitute for “wit”. Maybe the rest of us should get it together.
Posted by: Sharpshooter46 | February 8, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Well, now it’s Obama who doesn’t want to debate Senator Clinton. Geez, I wonder why? Maybe it’s because he can’t get two words out of his mouth without stammering and saying uh, uh, uh — while she clearly commands the stage with poise and a complete knowledge of the issues AND (imagine this) solutions to the many problems we have thanks to GW. The media is in an Obama frenzy. Finally, if someone referred to YOUR daughter in this manner, I doubt you’d be very happy — regardless of your feelings for the former President or the Senator.
Posted by: Laura Young | February 8, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Either Hillary needs to put on her big girl panties or Chelsea needs to stay home and bake cookies. I think what will happen will be more tears that will again influnece the emotional incapabale of leveraging logic and reason required to focus on the issues. Hillary is on to something.
Posted by: greg | February 8, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
I think that both Clinton & Obama should come out and say they are not going to do a debate on NBC. He also has children and if things don’t change they will be targeted. So called “journalists” have no consequences for their actions.
Posted by: jas | February 8, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
The truth hurts. She is being pimped out. For God’s sake they had her hidden from the campaign trail and even her mother’s NY Senatorial bid for ages. Now they are trotting her out for maximal benefit. Isnt that pimping?
Posted by: rich | February 8, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
gregg no its because Obama has already debated Hillary 18 times and she just wnats to debate to keep him from campaigning while she sends bill and chelsea she is even shepimping Bill.
Posted by: Mr American | February 8, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
The Clinton’s are up against the Republicans and the Press. I think they’re doing a good job.
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
The Clinton’s are up against the Republicans and the Press. I think they’re doing a good job.
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Bill & especially Hillary are using their own daughter. They’re the worst offenders. They’re so used to slinging mud at others, they don’t like it when it comes back. The Clintons have no boudaries when they choose to go on attack. They’ve been very sleezy for a long time; not sure which one is worse. But their outrage about observations re: Chelsea is phoney. Hillary makes sure Chelsea is seen with her everywhere. That’s not an accident; it’s a calculated strategy. So please, no whining or crying when people call it like they see it. This is a win at all cost contest Hillary and you put your own daughter right in the middle of this one. No tears now, try to pretend to be presidential.
Posted by: Sandra Johanson | February 8, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
I used to tune into Matthews but no more. He is not unlike others at that network. Matthews spews his venom at the Clintons like he is on some kind of personal vendetta. My belief is that he is still pissed at Kerry’s loss. This guy has infected others too. Yes, there are better networks.
Posted by: benvictor | February 8, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
MSNBC is going down the tubes was a ardent watcher before use to watch Chris and all of them. Imus was right when he use to say Chris was a loud mouth who like to hear himself talk. if I was Bill Clinton I go and slap Shuster in the mouth. I know I would if he had said that about my daughter
Posted by: Guy | February 8, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
MSNBC is going down the tubes was a ardent watcher before use to watch Chris and all of them. Imus was right when he use to say Chris was a loud mouth who like to hear himself talk. if I was Bill Clinton I go and slap Shuster in the mouth. I know I would if he had said that about my daughter
Posted by: Guy | February 8, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Former President Clinton had a young intern working for him who he claims he never had sex with. Do you think her parents ever felt their kid was ‘pimped out’? How dare Hillary forget you reap what you sow!
Posted by: sbelcher | February 8, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
I don’t know if these announcers have daughters. The general rule should be if you wouldn’t want others to speak about your daughter in this manner, than perhaps an apology is in order, and that type of language should not be used again. Didn’t Don Imus get fired for using abusive terms in regard to female athletes? How does this differ?
Posted by: Shelley Beierschmitt | February 8, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Just a tiny sneak peek at the new america where free-speech exists only for the Clintons.
Posted by: Hal | February 8, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
People, it’s one thing if their opponet is saying ‘pimped’, but when the press says it you really have to wonder if they have a ulterior motive.
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
MSNBC has a bunch of scumbags as news anchors.
I will never watch them again.
Posted by: kingsley | February 8, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Why is Chelsey calling superdelegates? Who is she? I hope this thing gets rapped up with a clear winner, and none of this superdelegate mess becomes a reality.
Posted by: ray | February 8, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
The women of the view didn’t make Chelsea sound all that great either…Were is the outrage there. In this case it was a slam against Hillary in the case of the view it was an insult to Chelsea between the two as a mom I would go after the women of the view…I can take care of myself.
Posted by: Marie | February 8, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Who can deny she isnt being pimped? It is what it is.
Posted by: ray | February 8, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
I have watched MSNBC many a night and thought there coverage was very anti Hillary Clinton. I did not see this particular episode or comment, but I agree with the Clinton’s there comment are over the line. HRC should take them on directly more often not to mention unfair and unbalanced FOX 5.
Posted by: Tom Hansen | February 8, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
The reporters are entitled to their opinions – it is their choice of words that come into question. How about the word “exploit”. I don’t agree she is being exploited but if that’s what they think, then fine. Clean it up lads and watch your dirty mouths.
Posted by: Laura Wilson | February 8, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
I have finally seen these people for what they really are…pompous, arrogant and an air of entitlement….
—hallelujah to that!!
Posted by: pinky | February 8, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
All the canidates family members get pimped, but they will only say it about the Clintons because the press has a love fest for Obama.
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
they just hate clintons. even thheir analysis show.
Posted by: joe | February 8, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
I refer to MSNBC anchors as Obama-heads.
Posted by: Tracy | February 8, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
‘Journalists’ is a pretty generous term in this regard. Opinionists is probably best, since they offer only their opinions as opposed to facts.
Posted by: Sue in Michigan | February 8, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
TELL ME, WHAT OR WHO IS CALLING UP THE CLE’S FOR OBAMA ??????
Posted by: NANCY | February 8, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
The thought of Bill clinton back in the WHITE HOUSE also scares me, nothing to do but maybe chase the women around. I honestly feel sorry who ever is the Vice President is if Hillary wins the election, Hillary will take Bill’s advice over whoever is the VP. the CLINTONS RUNNING THE COUNTRY MAY KEEP A LOT OF PEOPLE UP AT NIGHT. I would have nothing wrong with a woman president JUST NOT HILLARY, SHE WILL NEED A CASE OF KLEENEX IF SHE DOES
Posted by: W. Martin | February 8, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
I have already banned MSNBC from being watched in my house, due to the bias expressed by there commentators. CNN is still, at this point, marginally tolerable.
Posted by: Suzy | February 8, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Good forbid any member of the press says something like that about Obama, since he is Jesus but without experience and a shot to win against the Repubs
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
What happens to American Famility values? The guys should be fired and Boycott NBC.
Posted by: CPM | February 8, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Pimping
A person who uses another for their own personal gain.
Posted by: Sandra Johanson | February 8, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Pimping
A person who uses another for their own personal gain.
Posted by: Sandra Johanson | February 8, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
I certainly agree the use of the term “pimped out” is unfair in any terms when speaking of their daughter, especially when BILL CLINTON embodies the phrase! Obviously the internship program pimped out Monica to the White House where Bill was more than happy to show her the ropes and other things! Then “pimped out” his wife, administration and fellow chronies on a 8yr stretch of concealment, deceit and lies to the American public to cover up his Arkansas to Washington corporate & sex scandals! This is getting good, I can’t wait wait to hear the person for which the phrase was best coined, respond to this! Let’s hear it BILL…
Posted by: JAY | February 8, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
If sweet little Chelsea is going to enter the political arena she has to learn to roll with the punches. So the Clintons only support freedom of speech when it’s *their* freedom to speak?
NBC is a bunch of wusses to apologize and to suspend the person who made the comment.
Posted by: Peter | February 8, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Why so many of u are hating on the media? As long as they are not singing Hillarys praises, many of u get upset. For God Sakes, I seen people commenting about CNN being the Clinton News Network. Its your perception, because you just cant get up from under your own bias. You obviously want Clinton to win and have always positive pro Clinton press, but get a grip. That’s not reality.
I read the same articles, some are not as positive as I would like for my candidate, but guess what? I just read them and take them with a grain of salt. Others that are too much to bear, I just skip them. So should you and stop complaining.
Posted by: ray | February 8, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
J-Hale – I totally agree with your comment. I used to really enjoy MSNBC but have totally stopped watching it. It is so blatantly over-the-top anti-Hillary. For the Obama supporters that feel this is an okay thing to say and insinuate about Chelsea and that Hillary is just being a cry baby, then I guess it would be okay if CNN, ABC or whomever reported that Obama was pimping Michelle out last weekend along with Oprah, Caroline and Maria? Right? I mean fair is fair? WRONG! No matter who you are supporting, none of the above mentioned women, or any woman for that matter, deserves to be treated with such disrespect. They are very intelligent women supporting the candidate they believe in and for a male to attach such demeaning terminology to their campaining is sickening and nothing but pure sexism!
Posted by: JH | February 8, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
I think the quote was made in familiar slang but it was a poor choice of words; it is also clear that people are being USED in this effort – any and all who can be prevailed upon are being used; this selection should NOT be made by the super delegates; I agree with Donna Brazile completely
Posted by: ruth | February 8, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Clinton = Pimped
Obama = Spreading the word of God
We get it press, you adore Obama and hate Clinton
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Whatever credentials NBC has for being a “news” organization should be pulled our from under them. NBC / MSNBC is dispicable as an organization and their employees are partisan hacks. The way the media has engaged in Election Steering, the FBI should be called in to investigate the mainstream TV News (ABC, CBS, NBC) industry as a large Racketeering Mob.
Posted by: Bill | February 8, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
I understand the uproar over an insensitive overtly sexual reference to the former first daughter, however, isn’t the villain in a pimping situation the parasitic, dehumanizing pimp? I’m not certain why the bulk of the focus is on the slight on Chelsea. Whether you agree with it or not, the original attack seemed to intend that Hillary and Bill are exploiting their daughter in a vulgar way.
Posted by: maxwello | February 8, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
don’t have your daughter schilling for your campaign, if you don’t want your daughter caught in the trap of the media’s attempt to challenge, question or even criticize. Politicians children are generally off-limits. However, if the children step into (or are even thrust into) the fray by their parent candidates, then you better stand back and be prepared for the heat (whether it has merit or not).
Posted by: heacedone | February 8, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Like the polls said, Hillary will do ANYTHING to get elected, including pimping her own daughter. She has cried twice the night before a big vote, lied more than the number of stars in the sky, lied about her finances to generate more money for her campaign and now is pimping her daughter.
yea, she should be the leader of the free world. Shame.
Posted by: jenny o | February 8, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Hopefully, the Clinton haters will blow a gasket.
Posted by: daddyblue | February 8, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Every campaign “pimps” their staff, but the press will only use the word pimp to describe the Clintons because they want them to lose. Period.
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Nobody watches MSN anyway. They have been extremely biased since day 1. Dealing with the “New Media” has to become normal because no one puts out unbiased news anymore. And try to get a media outlet to comment positively on the US is almost impossible. They do it because they can get away with it.
Posted by: Bullwinkle | February 8, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
She is supporting her mom – obviously a great kid. Using the word “pimp” is appauling and inappropriate.
Posted by: mike | February 8, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Any politician family members are subjects to media scrutiny. However, I will draw a distinction.
If they engage into debate, or attach other candidate.
If they only come out to ask to support for their family member, then they deserve to be left alone.
If Chelsea Clinton, debate the issues, attach other candidates, she deserved it. If not, the network need to look at their behavior and their language. I don’t know I ever want to see my kids to hear that kind of language from the journalist. Their is a huge distinction between media entertainment and the news. I don’t know what would be my reaction if someone calling my daughter using that term. I am not a violent person, but I still can’t imagine how I will be able to keep my calm.
If Don Imus was fire by using the inappropriate language, MSNBC need to do the same. This is not the first time, once for Hillary Clinton, now her daughter. Something need to be done, to restore the integrity of the need work.
Once, I can accept the apology. Twice, I demand action. Three, I suggest the Clinton family sue the network.
Posted by: asianmalesmoker | February 8, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
The media can say what it wants within the law.
The Sorority House rules are not in play.
Can we have some real news about real candidates please?
Posted by: americanrefugee_eu | February 8, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
No matter what candidate you support the children should be off limits no matter how old. Fair is fair, yes, Chelsea is an adult while Obama’s are under ten and McCain’s are in their late 60′s they should all be off limits. I was one who did not agree with how they treated the drunken Bush twins.
Posted by: ruth | February 8, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
MSNBC is as fair and balanced as Foxnews. I used to watch MSNBC but not any more. It is OBAMA networK!!!!
Posted by: john ritter | February 8, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
What a shame and disgrace my favorite news channel (MSNBC) has become. Your dislike and all negative reporting on Hillary will cost you to lose many viewers like me. What happened? I hate to believe the Fox News people were right about MSNBC all along.
Posted by: Patrick | February 8, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Guess this means that Obama is “pimping” Edward Kennedy, Caroline Kennedy, John Kerry, Oprah, and anyone else who’s supporting him. Chris Matthews has forgotten that he’s supposed to report the news…not create it! Journalism today is nothing more than a series of mean-spirited, cheap, shots. It’s not about politics, it’s about the journalists and the private axes they have to grind. Oh, and if this was said about Michelle Obama, you know that the “race” card would be pulled out in a heartbeat. It’s the Obama camp that can’t take any criticism!! Even when Obama’s words are played back on video -he denies what he said. He’s lost all credibility on my part and I once considered voting for him. By the way Imus was fired for using a similar derogatory comment regarding the Rutgers Basketball Team. Maybe Chris Matthews should be fired too – or is it just the black population that has a right to get their back up. Finally, why is everyone so afraid of a woman president…are they afraid that she’ll show up all the men that have gone before?
Posted by: MH | February 8, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
The Clinton campaign isn’t playing gender politics again, is it?
Posted by: Templeton | February 8, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
So if Hillary is elected, will Chelsea be able to consider her mother’s time in office part of her “experience” the way Hillary uses Bill’s time as part of her “experience”. Hillary only did one year of Children’s Defense Fund. Then she shilled as an attorney for Rose Law Firm (Thanks to her husband being AG an Governor – no way they would have hired her otherwise) and served on the Wal-Mart Board of Directors making sure unions never gained a thing from Wal-Mart and keeping the poor poor. How many EEOC cases were there from women being treated disparately at Wal-Mart while she was on the Board? She did nothing for the poor or women while there, but it is part of her “Public experience.”
So, if Hillary is President, Chelsea will have 12 years of public experience and can run for President! Oh wait, her daddy’s (pimp’s?) time as Governor and AG… Chelsea can have 18 years experience in public service.
Posted by: ChgoSaint | February 8, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
This is condemnable behavior, and both Senator Obama and Senator Clinton should IMMEDIATELY declare a boycott of NBC and MSNBC. Children are OFF-LIMITS!!!! For anyone who has daughters or sisters, and frankly any decent American, this cannot be allowed to pass. We have values as a country, and one of them is that we do not hurt children, no matter what it is that their parents do.
Posted by: Time after time | February 8, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Let’s face it, only roughly 25% of Americans now like or tolerate the Clintons. They have raped and stolen from every American family. Finally, people are understanding that. Hillary can barely get 25% of the vote of all Americans and that’s after 4 years of running this campaign and hundreds of millions of dollars. Bravo AMERICA, let’s take America back from the pimping Clintons.
Posted by: Jim L | February 8, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
It’s ok if Obama pimps his family because he is so great. What does he stand for again, change? No wonder why he teamed with Kennedy, the man who has been in DC since the 60s. That makes sense.
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
pomposity and opinonated mind set along with abuse from so called news people are the hallmarks ofthe filth generated by people like mathews, shuster and borger among others. they psychoanalyse like idiots.their bias and contempt for the clintons is worse than those of the republicans because these charracters are supposed to be objective. they earn a living by scandalising people shame on them
Posted by: shrink | February 8, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Obama supporters showing their true colors here using Schuster’s comments as a way to attack the Clintons or even worse defending what Schuster said. Great way to represent Obama guys.
Posted by: Eric | February 8, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
does anyone really care
Posted by: Dan Lowther | February 8, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
The media has been in Obama’s pocket and it doesn’t surprise me that a media personality say something like this about a Clinton. Hillary is doing pretty good considering the media, Obama, Repub’s and Bill’s past is still fighting her.
Posted by: Alex Smith | February 8, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Will the news commentators ever learn to stick to the facts, and leave out their snide remarks? Who wants to hear their opinion anyway, especially since it is so biased that it makes the decent citizens of our country want to barf!
I prefer to get my news from the computer these days and tune out the TV with a good book when my husband has these highly opinionated, so-called newscasters on.
Posted by: C.J. Palozzilo | February 8, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Why haven’t I heard anyone discuss how the polls and pundits got it wrong again on Super Tuesday? The reporting was Obama had a double digit lead over Hillary in California. Chris and his crew at MSNBC were gloating big time.
Posted by: Patrick | February 8, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Obviously, it hit home for a reason. Could it be because they were right? lol. Free speech….even though I think that Hillary has pimped more than that to get there sHes at.
Posted by: mama | February 8, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
No one is going to stop the Media. They are doing their job as everyone does. If you do not like what they write, its your problem not theirs.
Posted by: Peace | February 8, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Main Entry: 2pimp
Function: verb
Date: 1636
transitive verb
: to make use of often dishonorably for one’s own gain or benefit
Sounds accurate!!!
Posted by: ChgoSaint | February 8, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Wow, reading some of the comments here makes me wonder what’s wrong with all you people? It’s OK if you don’t like Clinton for her policies but supporting the action of the MSNBC commentators, simply because you are in love with Obama, is not right. Either all of you don’t have kids to know how much this hurts or you have really become part of a cult. I am yet undecided on who I’ll vote for in Seattle but given the gleeful reaction by the Obama campaign to these comments pushes me away from the campaign more and more (note – not necessarily from Obama)
Posted by: John | February 8, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Whoa there “time after time”. OF COURSE children are off limits as long as they don’t enter the campaign. The moment they start campaigning aggressively as Chelsea has been, then you can bet she is now vulnerable to the same scrutiny as anyone else. Besides, she can now claim this time as “experience” and run for President when sHillary’s done.
Posted by: Simon H | February 8, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
If someone said anything like that about my daughter I would fight back too!
Posted by: Lessange | February 8, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Maxwello is correcto. The comment about Hillary pimping out Chelsea was not intended to be derogatory towards Chelsea. So those of you who are angry at MSNBC, shouldn’t be. The Clinton’s (Hillary) is using Chelsea (whether Chelsea wants to be there or not) as a calculted pawn in her own game to get elected to HER dream job. The CLinton’s have proved over the years they will do ANYTHING to stay in power. Hillary is supposedly such a brainiac, you’d think she would have saw this coming sooner. And Bill! Wow, all the embarrasment and shame he put his family through, he has absolutely no business saying one word about any of this.
Posted by: Sandra Johanson | February 8, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Early on in Clinton #1 Presidency, when talking about Chelsea, Hillary was quoted as saying that she and Bill used to tease Chelsea when she was just a kid to get her used to the political world and toughen her up. Chelsea herself has said that she does not like to campaign and feels uncomfortable doing it. The choice of words was unfortunate, but the meaning of sentence in which it was used was clear…and correct.
Posted by: dream on | February 8, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Sorry to say, but MSNBC – especially Chris Matthews – is far, far unbalanced when it comes to candidates for President. Both Republican and Democrat. I’ve lost respect for some because of Mr. Matthews comments and find that there are few news organizations that are trustworthy.
Posted by: BronxBoy7117 | February 8, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Don’t tie this in with Obama. He had nothing to do with it. It’s an american perception of the Clintons. They’re an extremely combative family and now that Chelsea has vocally begun to campaign, it’s all fair in politics. Chelsea has come out and insulted President Bush, nevermind that her father insulted the american people, but no one is crying about that. How do you think Barbara and Jenna feel when Chelsea is insulting their father? But to suggest that this has anything to do with Obama, is pathetic. The Clintons are just a disgusting couple and their win at all costs even now is rubbing off on Chelsea.
Posted by: nspv | February 8, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Why do you automatically associate a bad comment/truthful comment about the Clintons as being pro-Obama. Get real. This has nothing to do with Obama, and if you choose a candidate based on what people who can’t stand the Clintons say (all 75% of us in America), then you are don’t deserve a vote.
Posted by: Simon H | February 8, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Eveidently Chris Matthews isn’t the only jerk at MNSBC. I will stop watching their news channel. It is quite obvious that they are taking a page from Fox News. Now we have two news channel that have their head stuck up in a very nasty place.
Posted by: James Hilton | February 8, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Hillary is done CRYING for VOTES TWICE.
She is done CRYING for MONEY once.
CRYING a THIRD time would look silly.
So, LETS SOMEBODY ELSE CRY…the CAMPAIGN with a frivolous reason…see if that works when things/voters are not going in favor of them.
this is getting really silly. How are these cry babies going to compete against ruthless Republican campaign, God forbid, if nominated.
Any adult, including Chelsea, actively participating in this campaign should be ready to accept tough questions and criticism form all direction, else should just stay out of this campaign. She is not a child, she is a college graduate adult and should not deserve to be treated like a child whose parents should start crying as if their child has been unfairly treated as an adult.
Posted by: moeen | February 8, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Chris Matthews has just fallen into the Obama cult. What more could you expect from him? Obama1, Obama1 you are my leader.
Posted by: ruth | February 8, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
The sooner the Clintons go away, the better for the USA.
Posted by: Lyle Williams | February 8, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
I’m a fan of neither Obama nor Clinton. I don’t even know who to vote for in the general election. I don’t think my fav Ron Paul will make it. Anyway, I find it a little bit disturbing watching MSNBC/OBAMA channel. This sort of language against Chelsea is absolutely disgusting! So what if she’s helping her mother? Isn’t that what all the younger children of Obama and Edwards doing for their dad by showing up everywhere? The only difference is Chelsea is old enough to make phone calls. I thought all candidates, or their volunteers at least, are calling up people asking for votes all the time. As a mother myself, I find these remarks extremely offensive. What the hell, Hillary might just get my vote if this kind of prejudice continues.
Posted by: Faye | February 8, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Looks like I need to be watching NBC shows again! I hope Hillary does boycott and NBC lets Obama have all that time to himself to address America. Eventually the Clintons will learn that they can no longer silence all the press.
Posted by: Rob | February 8, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
My question is what association does Matthews have with Uncle Teddy and Kerry, now that both have endorsed Prince Charming? Is there some sort of nexus here that we don’t know about. Just watch these three in action.
Posted by: benvictor | February 8, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
MSNBC has too many Obama supporters on as regular guests. Each political panel has been an Obama supporter, an independent analysis and then the third is usually Pat Buchanan. If you’re going to have Eugene Robinson on all day – there should a Clinton person all day too.
Posted by: BMurphyNYC | February 8, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
I don’t think Matthews should have apologized for his opinion. Its a valid opinion, shared by many.
Shuster went over the line. But he apologized, and that should be that.
As for Clinton pulling out of the debate, so? MSNBC ought to say, “we respect your decision, we apologize again and regret your decision not to debate, and now we’ll fill that timeslot with other programming – like maybe a foreign policy debate between McCain and Obama.”
The bottom line is that Clinton’s campaign is more heavily criticized in the media. They work hard to deserve this criticism. Its an ugly campaign, which frequently brings out the worst in people.
Posted by: Paul | February 8, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Chris Matthews is so blatantly anti-Clinton he can barely contain himself.
The longer the primary process drags on the more Matthews feels he has to attach Hillary. David Shuster is usually a non partisan reporter. Perhaps he has been hanging with Chris Matthews too long.
Posted by: Becky | February 8, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
I think Chelsea has a better chance of becoming President someday than her Mom ever does.
Posted by: paulieshere2 | February 8, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Chris Matthews is so blatantly anti-Clinton he can barely contain himself.
The longer the primary process drags on the more Matthews feels he has to attach Hillary. David Shuster is usually a non partisan reporter. Perhaps he has been hanging with Chris Matthews too long.
Posted by: Becky | February 8, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
The good old boy network at NBC will actually reward this. I have been in the business world for many years and it is startling what executives will say about women in a room full of men. The only thing that surprises me is that women are still surprised to hear this.
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Poor Hillary. It is all just so unfair.
Posted by: cg, nyc | February 8, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Mathews is a commentator/interviewer type of guy, not a “reporter”. The Clinton camp is just afraid Hillary might get a tough question from him in a debate as they believe he has made her look bad in the past. Let her majesty skip the MSNBC debate, she needs it lots more than Obama. JPT knows what is really up here – the Clintons’ media control wing is trying to keep the press under their thumbs, same as always. With the scum-sational history of the Clintons and their cohorts, they’ve no place criticizing anything anyone says about them. Remember how they tried their best to destroy all the women Bill had abused??? Monica was a stalker, and so on, remember?
Posted by: squeenter squillo | February 8, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
jerry – I totally agree. For the past 2 years I’ve been getting friends and family to watch MSNBC (because Fox is nuts and Blitzer asks lame questions) and just before New Hampshire they all went back to CNN because of the slant toward Obama. It’s too bad, MSNBC was doing well for a while.
Posted by: BMurphyNYC | February 8, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
oh boo hoo …cry me a river (again). Boycott the network. I doubt anyone will miss her. It’s a phrase. If your sensibilities are that delicate, Hil, I suggest you get out of politics. It’s doubtful you can withstand the criticism of being the commander in chief if you can’t deal with criticsm or negativity during your campaign.
Posted by: bree | February 8, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
When Chelsea was young, the Clintons asked the press to respect her privacy and the press complied. But when grown-up Chelsea chose (or was coerced) into entering the campaign fray, she became fair game. Hillary and Bill can’t tell their daughter to pester super delegates, and at the same time tell the media their little darling is off limits.
Posted by: Weez | February 8, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
I agree, Chris Matthews seems to be soooo in love with Obama that he is loosing all his objectivity ( the little that he has). I’m not surprised because Christ Matthews is spineless and seems to ride on the coat tails of whoever is the man / woman of the hour. But please, don’t drool (literally) over Obama on national television. I feel bad for his guests who has to sit by him…he spits on them. Bring an umbrella!
Posted by: felicia | February 8, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
i wish i was celeb!! hahaha
Posted by: jr | February 8, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
MSNBC has been the all Obama network this whole campaign. Chris Matthews is literally obsessed with Hillary Clinton and does whatever he has to do to beat her down.
But regardless. Matthews doesnt apologize because he was wrong. He apologises because MSNBC loses CREDIBILITY when he goes off the wall.
Dragging Chelsea Clinton into this is beyond ridiculous. Its just low ball slime politics. Chelsea Clinton has nothing to do with anything but just trying to help her mother. Like anyone else would do.
These guys are GOING TOO FAR . They are going OFF THEIR ROCKERS .
Can you imagine if they said something this harsh about one of Obama kids or parents or whatnot? What a NATIONAL CALAMITY. The guy would be FIRED on the spot.
Posted by: tom | February 8, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Oh come on!!! First of all they are COMMENTators, not anchors, and they have a right to COMMENT what they think, like it or not. And you’ll note that Hillary lets other people do the whining and name calling (Just like Bill did) so that they can pretend to distance themselves from it, while it’s still floating out there for people to hear. Same old game, different Clinton. Chelsea is no kid–she’s an adult and she’s campaigning–fair game.
Posted by: Donna | February 8, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
People are missing the big picture here, NO other candiate gets this type of press besides Hillary. This year, the Democrates will chose to lose the white house, not Hillary
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Bad choice of words, but the meaning was right on. Why is it so terrible for someone with the media to “dis” Chelsea, and acceptable when it’s Jenna and Barbara?
Posted by: Sharon | February 8, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
OK, so a political analyst used an unfortunate choice of words. Let him apologize and let’s get on with a serious look at the campaigns. For the Clinton campaign to belabor this matter just looks like another attempt to generate sympathy for their candidate.
Posted by: Chuck in Denver | February 8, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Absolutely. There are many so-called journalists (particularly on MSNBC) who seem to think they can say the most offensive things about people and then just turn around and say, “oops, I didn’t really mean that; I can’t imagine why anyone would take it badly, tee hee, but I apologize to those who did”, and expect that somehow makes it alright, even though they do it repeatedly. It has been obvious from the beginning of this campaign how biased much of the news media (and particularly MSNBC) is against Hillary Clinton. I no longer watch or read ANYONE associated with that network after watching a particularly vitriolic session one evening where they were all frothing at the mouth (I swear you could see the spit flying), shouting over each other in their self-centered attempts to get their own venomous obscenities heard above each other. What is particularly sad about this is they are apparently too stupid to realize how transparent they are. It is obvious they think the American public is stupid, and they can therefore get away with something like trouncing Hillary for her husband’s infidelity. I would bet big time that most of them have either had extramarital affairs themselves or they’ve been unsuccessful in their attempts (not too many partners would want a relationship of one)…but there I go, stooping to their level. How does the pat “apology” go, oh yeah, “I didn’t realize that anyone might take that as I really intended it, so to those who did, blah, blah.” The last debate was one of the most watched television events in all time, so future ones will probably bring big bucks (via sponsors) to the networks that hold them. If I were Hillary Clinton I wouldn’t want to thus reward a network that was constantly maligning me and my family.
Posted by: rmrb | February 8, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Its ok to call the Clintons whatever you want, but if you dare question Obama’s inexperience or drug past, that’s going too far. Does that sound about right?
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
I am not a supporter of Obama or Hillary, I am a republican, I believe that the media is bias against Clinton,the media is engaging in sensationalism in their reporting and conduct. The media outlets often choose to report heavily on stories with shock value or attention-grabbing names or events, rather than reporting on more pressing issues to the general public.
so sad!
Posted by: Pat | February 8, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Oh well … come on NBC. Chelsea’s a nice young lady. Shuster should apologize to her and Sen. Clinton, make amends, and let this thing pass. I’d like to see a good debate on issues of importance to the nation and the world. NBC, don’t repeat the Saturday Night Live thing.
Posted by: keith | February 8, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Chris Matthews is a complete slug.
Posted by: Scott | February 8, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
WOW, HILLARY THE WIMP. CNN IS BIASED TO CLINTONS AS IS EVERY OTHER MEDIA, EVEN MSNBC. MSNBC AT LEAST TAKES SOME PAINS TO LOOK CENTRIC. HILLARY HATES TOUGH QUESTIONS. YOU CAN SEE IT IN HER EYES WHEN SHE GETS ASKED TOUGH QUESTIONS, THE “WHAT YOU’RE ASKING ME?” GO BACK AND LOOK AT WOLF’S NAIVE IRAQ QUESTION IN DEBATE< LOOK AT STEPHANOPOLOUS QUESTION ON PENALIZING THE POOR IN HER CRAZY HILLARY CARE JOKE PLAN, WATCH HER EXPLAIN SHE RAN OUT OF MONEY (AND SHE'S THE ANSWER TO ECONOMIC SITUATION). SHE IS SWISS CHEESE AND THE ONLY RESORT IS PERSONAL ATTACKS, RACISM AND SHEDDING FAKE TEARS, I BET SHE ATE AN ONION BEFORE EVERY PRESS EVENT. ACTUALLY I AM GUESSING SHE EATS ONIONS ALL THE TIME, WHAT MAKES YOU CRY MORE THAN ONIONS? OH, CROW.
Posted by: Ur Feet Tink Too | February 8, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
And you wonder why Hillary gets women’s vote! As a woman and mother, I’m more and more inclined to vote for Hillary based on only one reason: the hate and prejudice unfaily dumped on her! I’m not saying she’s an angle. I’ve never liked her. But come on! Play fair! Dig up the dirt from everybody, not just her! When you drag an innocent young girl into this whole smearing campaign, you crossed the line! Coming election day, I think I’ll vote for Hillary if Ron Paul isn’t in it (which I must sadly admit is unavoidable).
Posted by: Faye | February 8, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
I’ve never like Chris Matthew’s reporting anyway. He’s obnoxious and always trying to highlight Hillary Clinton in negative fashion and praise KING OBAMA just for breathing.
Posted by: Mary | February 8, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
seems like to me you hillary supporters are soft just like her! …. its not our fault that chealse is doing what ever she can to see mommy be president ! GO NBC!!
Posted by: jr | February 8, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Jeff: “People are missing the big picture here, NO other candiate gets this type of press besides Hillary.”
Jeff, I respectfully would add that you too are missing the big picture, which is the Clintons bring it on themselves.
I’ll admit Chelsea didn’t, and Shuster was out of line. Besides, I don’t even get the objection, if not worded inappropriately. For all the things that the campaign has done to deserve criticism, having an adult child take on campaign responsibilities isn’t one.
Posted by: Paul | February 8, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
NBC should can Matthews and Shuster immediately. Unfortunately Matthews and Shuster have gotten to a position and no one checked their qualifications to report news!!! NBC can replace garbage like Matthews and Shuster anytime, any place, anywhere. The media is all about Barak and they spend their nights up thinking of how to insult Hillary and her family. I can’t wait to see Hillary win …. even then I am sure they are going to have to swallow hard to acknowledge it. NBC is a loser media !!
Posted by: Maria Martinez | February 8, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Good, give the hour to Barack. No apology is necessary. It’s true and the truth hurts. Aren’t they using their daughter? I think that they are. David was correct in the comment. If she can stump for the candidate, then the press should have access to her. I guess that you have to play by the Hill/Bill rules or they’ll cry…
Posted by: judesuper | February 8, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
I find it difficult to believe that any of you would think it appropriate for a reporter or “commentator” to use such a horrible word. I am sure that if the same remark was used to describe Michelle Obama’s efforts on behalf of her husband there would be an outcry of complaints, and rightly so. Chelsea Clinton is a young adult woman, who is supporting her mother. As a daughter and a mother, this is exactly what I would expect her to do. MSNBC should apologize, and there should be some consequence for this horrible behavior by their employees.
Posted by: Silvia | February 8, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
christopher london—look, you have just been pimped out for Obama. shame on those for being a part of these smearing and contemptible personal attacks.
this is not an anology. it’s demeaning and insulting. just put yourself in Clinton’s shoe. can I say Michelle Obama was being pimmped out for Obama when she asked the Americans to vote for him during interviews? it’s beyond disgusting!
Posted by: andrew lo | February 8, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
So would you like to say Michelle Obama, Oprah, Ted Kennedy, Kerry, caroline were pimping for Obama..
you are a Disgrace to journalism..which shouldn’t be biased. Why don’t you change the name from MSNBC to ObamaBC?
Posted by: dash | February 8, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Chuck in denver (4:07) said “OK, so a political analyst used an unfortunate choice of words. Let him apologize and let’s get on with a serious look at the campaigns. For the Clinton campaign to belabor this matter just looks like another attempt to generate sympathy for their candidate.
Don’t think for a minute that this isn’t the intent of the Clintons!!!
Posted by: dream on | February 8, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
The comments were downright nasty. On the other hand it is so nice to see the remarks from the Obama folks here. Obama’s calls for hope and unity does not seem to have reached his own supporters and reading them has finally placed me into Hillary’s camp. Perhaps if Obama’s supporters had shown more respect for other opinions I would have supported him. I cannot and will not support the raw hate I see and read from Obama’s supporters in all too many blogs and now here.
Posted by: Wil | February 8, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Of course, an even more basic point is this. We all know Clinton inspires negative responses. Whether those responses are fair or unfair, why would the Democrats want to nominate such a person? Only thing I can figure is they like losing.
Posted by: Paul | February 8, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
wow just look at all the free speech liberals calling for mathews to be fired, notice it was never an issue when bush was running to call his girls every nasty name in the book and your still doing it, tough hillary you dont like dont go but either way shaddap
Posted by: Mr American | February 8, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
I dare one of these guys to get up and and say something like that about one of Obabma’s children or his wife. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the all the rest would start screaming prejudice; the commentator would have to make an apology, he’d get the equivalent of a public flogging and then get fired for his actions. Give me a break. I will say that even though I am a supporter, I don’t really agree with Clinton dropping out of the debate. Its too important for her to drop out and may reflect poorly on her.
Posted by: Lee-Ann | February 8, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
Hillary is worried that Monica Lewinsky will show up some place with a sign saying:
“Vote Republican, The Democrats left a bad taste in my mouth”
Posted by: DevNull | February 8, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
Its about time someone took notice of the insults an personal digs that those on MSNBC do everyday. They went to the Left to support a Demo in this election, then took sides against Hillary. My guess if this would have been said by a person on FoxNews, the MSM would be asking for his job. The disgusting way the MSM went after Romney, an not Huckabee for being a shill for McCain is also disgusting. Did someone send out a notice that this was going to be an Election by the MSM for the MSM. I sometimes wonder. An where are those outstanding Reporters that are interested in the news, not making themselves the news. MSNBC has almost made Huckabee a pundit on the Morning Joe Show. What happened to equal time??
Posted by: homjett | February 8, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Wil – you’ve made your decision on who to support for president based on the demeanor of people on a blog messageboard? You’re kidding, right?
Hell, I’ll bet half the people posting dumb stuff here in support of one candidate, are in actuality supporting another, and just hoping their feigned ignorance pushes a few readers their way.
Posted by: Paul | February 8, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Matthews, Shuster and Olbermann have lost my respect. The have lost their objectivity totally- and their claim to present a view that is ‘honest’ to Fox news is no longer viable.
I hope Mrs. Clinton wins this nominations and shuts the mouths of these 3 bums.
Posted by: Peter | February 8, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
I used to think that there are four pillars of democracy
Executive branch
Legislative
Judiciary
and
Journalism
Now I wonder, is the democracy is eroding? Please, for the sake of our democracy, the network need to take a strong stand.
They need to either come out and confirm that Chelsea is engaged in attach , debate the issues. In this case , this is the fair game. I only ask to use a better language.
If not, action need to be taken, for all our kids future. Do not let the guilts of their parent fall into their fate. They did not choose their parents.
Senator Obama, this is a honest call for you too. You are not in any way responsible for this kind of behavior, but your supporters did it on your name. You need to come out and condemn this type of behavior as a father , as a decent man. We can’t not let this kind of behavior continue. It will destroy the values we believed.
Posted by: asianmalesomker | February 8, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
A psoter hear made a good point. Lots of candidates over the years have had their children campaign for them. These politicains include George Bush. The media woudln;t consider bashing them, but it is Ok to bash the Clinton’s daughter. The media needs a spanking. The media covergae of HRC is slanted and out of control. Check out the story today of Bill Clinton saying that he did not attack O’bama. He didn’t the media slants it that way. Why? Because it is more sensational, but it is wrong. The media needs to go back to the days when they reported the news and not gove there worthless opinions!
Posted by: tom hansen | February 8, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
The daughter is fair game as she is out their pimping herself out to win votes for mommie and daddy ( new Pres and VP) so she cannot open her mouth without expecting the same in return.
Being she thinks her daddy was so correct to ashame the whole USA with his weird sex acts in the oval office then it is clear she is as sick as he and should be labeled so.
Posted by: JR | February 8, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
I used to look forward to Hardball, now I refuse to watch it, so I didn’t hear the comment about Chelsa. I think the comment is disgusting, and I think it is disgusting the way MSNBC favors Obama. John Mccain will eat Obama for breakfast. Look how the Rebublicans defeated John Kerry and he is a war hero.
Posted by: Jan Phillips | February 8, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
The folks at MSNBC don’t even try to hide their contempt for the Clintons. This can be easily proven by simply turning on the channel, wait at least 10 minutes and you will hear one of the Clintons being bashed, yet their will be no beef to the story.
Chris Matthews is over the top obessed with his hatred of Clinton.
It would be nice to have a newscast that wasn’t biased one way or the other.
You can support Obama and refrain from bbashing Clinton
Posted by: Jack Jett | February 8, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Sure, what was said was inappropriate, but let’s get over it. Jenna and Barbara Bush have had to put up with everything they did smeared all over the press. Chelsea is not 10 years old and has been reared by parents who have conditionaed her to the political world. I’m sure she can ‘take it’ and get past it, and so I think you all should too.
Posted by: dream on | February 8, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
And don’t forget the time Mathews pinched Hillary’s cheeck. Such a sexist gesture showing a total lack of respect. He should have been fired for that.
Thanks ABC for reporting these unprofessional goings on at MSNBC. I just hope their ratings tank!
Posted by: Mike (CT) | February 8, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Does anyone out there know Obama’s full name, that he conveniently shorted? Barack Hussein Obama. Is he that scared of a name overshadowing his small pile of accomplishments (if any accomplishments at all”)?
Posted by: DouglasKC | February 8, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
No one likes Hillary. Not even her supporters. There are basically the same person sitting there coming up with same crap. Look, she’s not a real feminist, she is where she is because of her husband. I know overworked housewives (and I agree) believe it’s still a tough job, and lord knows being Bill’s was was, but it doesn’t qualify as relevant experience. So women are displacing. But, the Clintons offend everyone. Even liberals. And liberals aren’t repugs, we have brains and Clinton’s thumb their nose at it. Because the press anywhere makes a true statement about Clintons’ and it happens to bad, because most of what they have done or do is bad or polarizing or offensive, doesn’t mean they are against them, just repeating. No one should have said pimping out, but don’t we all know that’s exactly what they are doing?
Posted by: Wish I had a Pooter | February 8, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
we are such babies. i am so tired of americans being thin skinned. what ever happened to free speech? why does everyone have to apologize all the time? if your gonna put your face out there expect to get smacked.
Posted by: michelle | February 8, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Are you joking me? people say thing about people all the time. and she is going to boycott because of little comments made about her daughter?
another reason that hillary is a joke.
Posted by: Sonia | February 8, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Vote Democrat – They’ll be a irrelavent sex scandel that no one outside the US cares about and a budget surplus
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
The sexism of this slur is clear. Woman hatred is virulently unleashing itself in both the personal and public commentary on Hillary Clinton and her Campaign. Looks like the bigots of America have found their new playground. Racial slurs are forbidden but sexist slurs are permitted and justified. The hatred and cowardice of the bigots of America that fueled Racism in America found a new target. A woman running for President!
Posted by: anasko | February 8, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
What? No freedom of speech either with the Clinton camp!! Wake up people…
Posted by: matt | February 8, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Just out of curiosity…If a television reporter accused Barack of pimping out Michelle because he is using her to further his goals, would it be o.k.? I mean, she’s an adult and tough enough to stand the “harmless euphimism”, right? Nobody would be offended by someone using that pejorative to describe the relationship between a black man and a black woman, right? And I may be forgetting, but how many times has Mike Huckabee been accused of pimping out his SONS for using them at campaign appearances. The only reason to use that word is to denigrate the woman it’s being used against.
Posted by: Fed up | February 8, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
He (or they) could have used more appropriate language but the points were well taken – using your kids for political gain is not only damaging to the child but outright expoitive.
As far as the above Obama comments are concerned, what does he have to do with this? Leave the guy out. He has been runing close to a 100% positive campaign and has only gone “negative” when responding to attacks.
Posted by: Berkeley Democrat | February 8, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
I’ve been watching MSNBC’s coverage of Hillary for a while now, and I’ve come to strongly believe that the editors who are making decisions are misogynist. Plain and simple. What they need to know is…karma is karma…. and it will all come back around to bite their noses.
Posted by: Sullivan | February 8, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Interesting that after quickly checking some of the other news sites for this story — nothing. CNN, USA Today. That must mean that ABC is nothing but a shill for Hillary. Wait – that can’t be. All the HRC stalkers out here profess that ABC is a shill for Obama. Which is it?
People – get over the media. They are simply one source by which people gather kernals of information (some accurate, some not – some colored by opinions, some not). It is up to you to assemble the various pieces of information in order to make an “informed” decision. It’s not one stop shopping based on which one is telling you only things you want to hear.
Posted by: heacedone | February 8, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
I stopped watching Hardball prior to the Feb. 5 primaries because both Mr. Shuster and Mr. Matthews were so over-the-top in their opinions and narrations.
Last week, while interviewing a Democratic “insider,” Mr. Shuster kept insisting that Chelsea’s campaign phoning was unseemly — the guest finally ended the “interview” by saying he was welcome to his opinion.
His and Mr. Matthew’s lack of professional “journalism,” and their exuberance to portray a negative image of candidates they obviously do like is a disservice to the public.
I certainly miss Mr. Brokaw.
Posted by: dsk | February 8, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
First of all, what is wrong with Chelsea working on her Monm’s campaign? I wouldn’t exactly calling that “pimping out”. Secondly, if that is what Christ Matthews and whoever thinks, then why not say that about Caroline Kennedy, Oprah etc. Can you imagine the uproar if we said that Obama was pimping out Oprah!
Posted by: tonysi11 | February 8, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Its ok to say the Clintons are pimping their daughter, but god forbid Bill says Jesse Jackson won SC twice was a slur…boo hooo Obabies
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Why the heck the media is always bashing clintons…even we don’t support clintons it is so much personal to everyone. She is doing a great job for her mother that everyone does…why the heck the media is pulling her..the media guys has no humanity…they simply want to eat the money even it comes the crap
Posted by: Johnyeng | February 8, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
the comment about her being a bit retarded was funny
Posted by: jr | February 8, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
I think that what is not being talked about here is the fact that a family member is doing the work of their parent. Yes, slang is being used, but we understand the slang. Hillary is being seen as willing to do ANYTHING to get elected. At least their are polls suggesting that of all the candidates most Americans believe this assertion. That is the issue. Let’s talk about that as evidenced by having adult children of candidates make phone calls to superdelegates and/or media folks like the co-hosts of the View.
I personally might even use stronger language for this sort of nepotism.
Posted by: robert | February 8, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
For All Clinton Supporter !
Please control your anger. We can not let the other to drag ourselves to their level. Even if we lose, we lose with our dignity. The Obama family haven’t done anything wrong. We should leave the alone as we ask the other to do the same.
Insulting them without valid reasons will drag us to their level. I refuse to go there.
There are other undecided voters, they are watching. Our behavior will help the m to make up their mind.
Posted by: asianmalesmoker | February 8, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Wait a minute! Aren’t there primaries tomorrow and in the coming days? No wonder the Clintons are creating such drama–don’t they always do something before a primary? (Bill rant-Hill get emotional) And the press fell right into the trap!! I agree that the remark contained a stupid word, but, the Clintons will come out for the better because they will use this to the hilt!!!
Posted by: dream on | February 8, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
As I have said on numerous times on Political Punch, MSNBC is no longer fair and balanced. It is such a disgrace to my all time favorite anchor, Tom Brokaw. I used to be an avid MSNBC watcher, I have quit watching since the South Carolina primary. I am Samoan American and Keith Olbermann made light of the fact that Hillary acknowledged American Samoa. It was so upsetting because per capita our territory has the most men and women serving in the war in Iraq and and many fallen soldiers.Yes, I am sure some idiot is going to respond and say well Hillary voted “yes” and I my response to that is Obama didn’t vote at all. After 911 our nation was attacked in New York where Hillary is the U.S. Senator and how can you not say “yes” to a war that had implications of weapons of mass destruction. She was the voice for all the New Yorkers who died in 911 and in her defense if I was asked to vote against terrorism and tyranny knowing how it had affected my home state I would have done the same. It’s called patriotism.
Hillary 08
Posted by: mona | February 8, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Chris Matthews needs to keep his mouth shut. I refuse to watch MSNBC because of his hatred for the Clinton’s. I used to like him…
Posted by: Michele | February 8, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Are you a mother? Do you have a young daughter Chelsea’s age? Can you honestly say you don’t mind her being called ‘pimped out” everytime she helps you by reaching out to other people?
Sonia:
Are you joking me? people say thing about people all the time. and she is going to boycott because of little comments made about her daughter?
another reason that hillary is a joke.
Posted by: Faye | February 8, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Where is Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton when we need them
Posted by: dirty harry | February 8, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
The Clinton supporters should be happy MSNBC didn’t note the similarities in appearance between Chelsea and Hubbel.
Posted by: Paul | February 8, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Update: MSNBC suspends Schuster per Washington Post
Posted by: Eric | February 8, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
There’s no respect for the white woman anymore. The day a Black guy is elected before a White woman is the day this country has no respect for its white women. Look at the polls blacks are looking out for its own and support him 100% like oprha while whites dont support their own.
Posted by: Adam | February 8, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Patrick – did you see the Exit Polls on Drudge at about 6:30? Several of them were wildly off. Dan Abrams did do a piece about the polling though. There should be more discussion about why Zogby is so far off base.
Posted by: BMurphyNYC | February 8, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
DouglasKC—-why is it ok to demean the daughter of a candidate when she stumps for her mother? David Shuster has clearly demonstrated his personal dislike of the Clintons by slipping his words. But I think he has somewhat mixed up his work as a reporter with his ocassional sit-in as substitute for another foul-mouth host Chris Matthews.
Afterall, they are two of the same. David Shuster seems to be making some attempts to outbid Chris Matthews in the citation of outrageous remarks. good try.
Posted by: andrew lo | February 8, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
DouglasKC—-why is it ok to demean the daughter of a candidate when she stumps for her mother? David Shuster has clearly demonstrated his personal dislike of the Clintons by slipping his words. But I think he has somewhat mixed up his work as a reporter with his ocassional sit-in as substitute for another foul-mouth host Chris Matthews.
Afterall, they are two of the same. David Shuster seems to be making some attempts to outbid Chris Matthews in the citation of outrageous remarks. good try.
Posted by: lochukung | February 8, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
What is this obsession with Obama? He stands for change, which is every candiates platform for the last 100 years, has zero experience, has no experience against the repugs. His followers are like sheep going into the meat grinder come november.
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Bush’s daughters campaigned for him. It’s a tradition, if the adult children of the candidate wants to do it.
Chris Matthews and Shuster are so obvious in their dislike of the Clintons.
Chelsea is very bright and generally media shy. She graduated from Stanford with a degree in Economics and was on the honor role. She works for a hedge fund in Manhatten and is a very stable person who loves her parents like most of us do.
No matter what you think of Hillary she was a good mother – so there!
Posted by: Jee Wilson | February 8, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
The sexism of this slur is clear. Woman hatred is virulently unleashing itself in both the personal and public commentary on Hillary Clinton and her Campaign. Looks like the bigots of America have found their new playground. Racial slurs are forbidden but sexist slurs are permitted and justified. The hatred and cowardice of the bigots of America that fueled Racism in America found a new target. A woman running for President!
Posted by: anasko | February 8, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Jeff, for starters, he’s not Clinton. You just need to accept the obvious – a lot of people just don’t like her, including a significant portion of her own party.
But Obama is a pretty strong candidate in his own right, too.
Posted by: Paul | February 8, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
MSNBC and CNN (Clinton News Network) is biased towards Hillary Clinton. 45 mins of air-time was devoted to Hillary speaking in Washington state; when will they show 45 mins of Senator Obama speaking? Still waiting.
Posted by: Lida | February 8, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Its definitely a pattern with MSNBC…check out Matthews’ sexist and racist comments viewing Hillary’s clapping. Could you imagine if this was film mocking Obama’s clapping? Colbert mocks everyone and that’s his job – Matthews just relishes in revving up anti-Clinton chatter.
Posted by: mgt | February 8, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
I am truly disgusted at MSNBC. It is worse than Fox. I have been watching these news channels and comparing their coverage of the candidates and it is so very obvious that MSNBC is anti-Hillary. They belittle her accomplishments & her potentials. Also, a lot of the presidential candidates’ children work for the campaign (children of Edwards, Huckabee, Romney, McCain) of their fathers, and were even more hands on and there didn’t seem to be any complaint about those. I was not a Hillary supporter but my curiosity about the bias made me research the candidates accomplishments, which then led me to conclusion that Hillary is the most competent of the candidates. Unfortunately, not everyone is inclined to do the same, and instead of looking at the accomplishments most people are swayed by personalities/stories/likability factor which are not good basis for a president to fix the economy and all the other problems this country has.
Posted by: katie | February 8, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
White people why dont you support Hillary Clinton?
Posted by: Rick | February 8, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Paul, I cant wait to see how the Dems blow this election because they want a flashy new sports car, instead of a family sedan. Dems hate success.
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Let’s talk about two people who we already know to be crooks, Bill and Hillary Clinton? Let us revisit Whitewater, Travelgate, Webster Hubbell, Vincent Foster, Gennifer Flowers, Monica Lewinsky, and Paula Jones. Hillary chose to look the other way while on the board of directors at Wal-Mart while as they crushed the workers unions, did nothing for women, and watched as Wal-Mart run afoul of child labor laws. Her husband’s only explanation is that there was no big union movement in AK that she was the only woman, and so there was nothing she could do to change Wal-Mart’s policies on any of those issues.
It shows Hillary Clinton’s lack of character and judgment, as it only takes one person to take a stand on an issue, despite the fact that it was unpopular with the rest of the board. Also, with her vote on the war, she took the words of George W. Bush instead taking the time to read the national intelligence estimates for herself….another case of her lack of judgment. And let us not forgot about the fundraising in the Buddhist Temples, the renting out of the Lincoln and Washington Bedrooms, and being in bed with Japanese spies. Not to mention, we, the taxpayers still want to know what the Clintons did with the pieces of furniture and works of art that were taken from the Whitehouse in January of 2001.
Come on people help me paste this everywhere!
Posted by: Repub, Bub | February 8, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Rick, because they hate a sure thing.
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
THIS GUY SHOULD BE FIRED!!!! HE AT LEAST SHOULD SAY THAT HE IS SORRY,AND THAT HE MADE A MISTAKE!!! I WILL NOT BE WATCHING MSNBC ANYMORE,NOR WILL MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY.THIS GUY AND CHRIS MATTHEWS SHOULD BE FIRED!!!
Posted by: JOHN | February 8, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
The language is disrespectful and unneccessary and yes, draws conclusions. The media has become far too invested in this. If it is obvious to viewers who the journalist supports, then his/her usefulness as an impartial provider of fact is over. The who, what, where, why, etc. has apparently grown to include my clever 2 cents and as much as anything is responsible for the combative tone in politics. If Matthews wants to hold forth, he should run. Other wise he should watch his tone. He is sullying not just MSNBC but also NBC. I turn the channel to ABC which is far less combative given half a reason.
Posted by: beebopareebop | February 8, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Jeff – the Republicans have done the unthinkable in nominating a candidate who independents actually like.
The only way the Democrats could pro-actively blow this election is to not do the same. And that’s not even getting into Clinton’s high general negatives and ability to energize the Republicans like no one else could.
Independents decide elections. The obvious choice is Obama.
Posted by: Paul | February 8, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
People, the likely reason that Chelsea and the Clintons draw the ‘pimped out’ comment is the fact that
CHELSEA DOES NOT SEEM LIKE SHE IS REALLY INTO CAMPAIGNING!
Chelsea APPEARS TO BE COWED by an aggressive mother, Hilary Clinton!
Cowed to smile!
Cowed to campaign!
Cowed in pursuit of Hilary’s blind ambition.
The Clintons’ campaing IS NOT about America.
It is SOLELY about Clintons’ PERSONAL AMBITIONS for a THIRD TERM!
ABCD = Anyone But Clinton Dynasty!
Posted by: Gobama | February 8, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
So much for freedom of speech. Clintons are hypocritical and Arrogant. I am glad she will loose to Obama.
Posted by: maria4america | February 8, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Sad day in deed to see a Black guy beating up on a white woman. I guess White males have no Tes***e or balls to stand up for there women.
Posted by: Demo | February 8, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Obama would of pulled out the race card. So whats the big deal. Obama is pulling out the drug card now. Knowing the DC belt will draw allot of drugged up blacks to vote. Obama incinuating that the white man is picking on him for his drug use. OBAMA CULT wake up.
Posted by: dirty harry | February 8, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
It’s not like he called her a nappy-headed ho or something.
Posted by: Zinglesloff | February 8, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
MSNBC endorses Obama
Posted by: dirty harry | February 8, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Nobody would appreciate hearing the media sling slurs of this nature about their child regardless of age or reason. Standing up for what is clearly wrong is not a sin but Hilary chooses to live her life in a politcally obvious manner in the public eye.
It seems to me that most people would/should get angry or hurt and choose to repond in a more private manner directly with the perpetrator. Certainly Shuster would take the call and talk it out but, being politicians, they get their staff to respond. I can’t help but worry that Hilary is using the “I’m a victim” card over and over in what is clearly a repulsive trend for a potential leader. I suspect that the poll numbers reflect that this habit is a positive idea for a female candidate just as I suspect that almost everything they do is calculated with poll results in mind. The saddest part is that it appears that even motherly instincts appear politically affected with her. That is the real sin here. A media personality making a statement like these is wrong but the rest of us should never hear about how it is dealt with. They should make their decision on how to deal with it without floating it out to the media to gauge the public’s reaction. It is safe to assume that if it turns out that many people are rightfully appalled with the media calling their adult daughter’s sincere efforts to help her mothers campaign as being “pimped out”, Hilary’s camp will milk it for all its worth for the political gain and not as a mother’s protective instinct.
Posted by: ebb | February 8, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
You know Chelsea looks like Hillary, but not Bill. It’s more like Hillary and Vince Foster… hmmmm..
Posted by: yes2pedro | February 8, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Obama is the typical black guy. He loves his drugs. Now why dont Mathews, Joe, and Shuster hamper him on that.
Posted by: Sean | February 8, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
The only pimpin I’ve seen going on is Caroline, Maria and Doprah! Sing it Stevie: signed, sealed, delivered, your ho’s.
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
You must realize that it surely is time for a woman president, a black president, a good president. But is she really “the one”? She’s in this position because of her husband’s position. That’s a little against the concept, isn’t it?
Posted by: Hillary is not her own woman | February 8, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
I’ve never posted anything on these online forums before until now. These remarks got me so riled me up I have to say something. I have a daughter Chelsea’s age. If someone called her that, I’d kill him. Honest. I don’t like Hillary and didn’t vote for her in the primary. I still don’t like her but I WILL vote for her in the general election. You can call her a phony all you like. I agree she is one a lot of the times. But I’ll tell you this. This time, the fury is 100% real. Ask any mother, she’ll tell you the same thing. I guess MSNBC did something good for Hillary after all. I’m sure a lot of women and mothers will turn to Hillary. I know this because I’m one of them!
Posted by: Faye | February 8, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Obama would of pulled out the race card. So whats the big deal. Obama is pulling out the drug card now. Knowing the DC belt will draw allot of drugged up blacks to vote. Obama is incinuating that the white man is picking on him for his drug use to get more black vote. OBAMA CULT wake up
Posted by: dirty harry | February 8, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
JR – you’re a D.A. , lighten up everyone, we are all just people. Like I need to remind you. Spread understanding not acidic hate. Anyone who reaches back & references Bill Clinton & hos oval office escapades needs to move on with their lives.
Posted by: zodiac | February 8, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
MSNBC endorses Obama. Breaking News
Posted by: dirty harry | February 8, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Obama would of pulled out the race card. So whats the big deal. Obama is pulling out the drug card now. Knowing the DC belt will draw allot of drugged up blacks to vote. Obama is incinuating now that the white man is picking on him for his drug use to get more black vote. OBAMA CULT wake up
Posted by: dirty harry | February 8, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Obama would of pulled out the race card. So whats the big deal. Obama is pulling out the drug card now. Knowing the DC belt will draw allot of drugged up blacks to vote. Obama is incinuating now that the white man is picking on him for his drug use to get more black vote. OBAMA CULT wake up
Posted by: dirty harry | February 8, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Wasn’t it Chris Matthews who recently said, “Michelle Obama always come across as another ball breaker in her interviews” and “she hasn’t seen a dick yet she wouldn’t suck for cash” ?
Posted by: Stacey | February 8, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Considering Clinton agreed to debate on FoxNews, I think NBC would be a walk in the park.
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
The Clintons should try getting over themselves.
Posted by: Judith Clausen | February 8, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Oh great…another news outlet afraid of Bubba & the former First Liar.
Will they now show her crying about that statement the day before another primary?
Does anyone else see a pattern here?
So maybe the crack about Chelsea deserved an apology,but Chris Matthews observation about Hiiary’s career is right on THE MONEY.
Posted by: Justin | February 8, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Michelle Obama looks like a APE FACED monkey
Posted by: dirty harry | February 8, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
NBC has gone way over the line regarding Hillary. This kind of blatant unethical reporting has no place in American politics. Except on Fox News.
Posted by: eric | February 8, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Michelle Obama looks like a APE FACED monkey
Posted by: dirty harry | February 8, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
NBC has gone way over the line regarding Hillary. This kind of blatant unethical reporting has no place in American politics. Except on Fox News.
Posted by: eric | February 8, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Oh great…another news outlet afraid of Bubba & the former First Liar.
Will they now show her crying about that statement the day before another primary?
Does anyone else see a pattern here?
So maybe the crack about Chelsea deserved an apology,but Chris Matthews observation about Hiiary’s career is right on THE MONEY.
Posted by: Justin | February 8, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
this whole hillary is vetted argument is about the biggest insult to intelligence i can think of
Posted by: Hippo-crits | February 8, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
As long as the media makes ignorant Clinton comments, the more people are going to want to vote for her. Keep the hate flowing.
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
The issue here is that the Clinton campaign is against Free Speach when it goes against them. Someone called her daughter a derogatory name… WHAH! What will happen if Clinton is elected? Will her “staff” contact all of the press and tell them what they can and can not write? Sounds like Cuba and Russia to me!
Posted by: bill | February 8, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
If I was running for Pres. my daughter better get out there and help me as much as she possibly can. And if someone said anything about my daughter being “pimped” out, he would find himself missing some part of his anatomy. That’s just the way it is.
Posted by: sjs | February 8, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
An overreaction by the Clintons, but one designed to get the maximum publicity possible. They send the kid out to campaign for them, to act as a surrogate for Hillary, and then complain when someone takes note of it. The words may not have been the best but he could have said worse. This is all another effort at dirty politics by the Clintons–and no, it doesn’t matter that they were overprotective parents when Chelsea was young.
Posted by: kira | February 8, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
I think the press should be allowed to say anything they want without reprecussions becasue that is free speech. The Hillary haters have strange logic.
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
To all of you out there who think these remarks against a young women are no big deal:
I hope you don’t have a daughter. If you do, I hope she won’t be called that. Because then you would understand how Hillary is feeling right now. I didn’t care for her “crying” before so I didn’t vote for her in the primary. But when the love any mother has for her daughter is demonized, it’s a totally different game.
Posted by: Faye | February 8, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
An overreaction by the Clintons, but one designed to get the maximum publicity possible. They send the kid out to campaign for them, to act as a surrogate for Hillary, and then complain when someone takes note of it. The words may not have been the best but he could have said worse. This is all another effort at dirty politics by the Clintons–and no, it doesn’t matter that they were overprotective parents when Chelsea was young. You can’t have it both ways: you use your daughter to your advantage, you also put her out there on the line and you just have to accept what comes along with it.
Posted by: kira | February 8, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Amen to that! if it were me, he would be missing more than parts of his anatomy!
sjs:
If I was running for Pres. my daughter better get out there and help me as much as she possibly can. And if someone said anything about my daughter being “pimped” out, he would find himself missing some part of his anatomy. That’s just the way it is.
Posted by: Faye | February 8, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Take it easy, people.
Isn’t this the same blog that call Obama supporters a “cult” yesterday? Talk about beneath contempt!
Look. What we have here is another Clinton free media score. Yesterday it was “We loaned ourselves money, We’re out of money, we have money, we have online donors just like Obama.” Today it’s the phony outrage over a flippant, slang, passing remark by a talk show guy. It’s a stupid remark, but give me a break. If Hillary can’t take standard american slang, how is she going to handle Iran?
Last point. The hilarious bit is the bare-knuckled political hit man Harold Wolfson saying anything is “beneath contempt and disgusting.” Spineless spin-jobber Harold Wolfson will do anything to win, including these fabricated tear sessions, money problems and phony outrage over Chelsea’s honor. The whole Clinton style is beneath contempt and disgusting.
Posted by: mg | February 8, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
What’s happening to our country? Mortgage foreclosures, dysfunctional families, etc., etc., and now this? Insults like “nappy headed ho’s” and “Chelsea’s pimping” are treated like maximum crimes. Brittany Spears is getting more attention than the war in Iraq. A lot of folks need to chill. I just want a better president come January ’09. I want to hear some debates.
Posted by: kinlr | February 8, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
Obama’s mother is white just like most of you who are criticizing him. I think that’s what bothers so many people. The fact that he is part white, educated and popular. Just accept it. He’s the best candidate and he’s going to win. As far as the ‘pimping’ goes that’s something that the Clinton’s have far more experience in.
Posted by: sbelcher | February 8, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
MSNBC is a disgusting, biased and corrupt news org. i watched them faithfully since their launch, but have boycotted them ever since their disgusting coverage of the clintons over the last year. anyone who think this is a legitimate and credible news org is naive. they are sexist, and they parade andrea mitchell out as if to confirm their coverage is proper. yuck.
Posted by: boynla, LA, CA | February 8, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
I agree! Another reason to mistrust the Clinton Campaign! They are only for Free Speach and Democracy when it suits them. BE VERY AFRAID OF HER AS PRESIDENT!
The issue here is that the Clinton campaign is against Free Speach when it goes against them. Someone called her daughter a derogatory name… WHAA! What will happen if Clinton is elected? Will her “staff” contact all of the press and tell them what they can and can not write? Sounds like Cuba and Russia to me!
Posted by: Kirk | February 8, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
An overreaction by the Clintons, but one designed to get the maximum publicity possible. They send the kid out to campaign for them, to act as a surrogate for Hillary, and then complain when someone takes note of it. The words may not have been the best but he could have said worse. This is all another effort at dirty politics by the Clintons–and no, it doesn’t matter that they were overprotective parents when Chelsea was young. You can’t have it both ways: you use your daughter to your advantage, you also put her out there on the line and you just have to accept what comes along with it.
Posted by: kira | February 8, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
How is Obama the best canidate? Because he doesnt have experience and that makes him clean? His platform is vague and he would do the Dems a favor and wait until 2016 until he runs for President.
Posted by: Jeff | February 8, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
This whole phony controversy is another slick Clinton trick.
Newsflash: “pimp” has entered the acceptable popular lexicon in the years since Hillary was in touch with real Americans, back in 1985. Ever seen “Pimp my Ride”? OOOOOHHHHH. Where’s the outrage!
Obama is out there right now talking to 20000 people in Seattle about the tough issues. Hillary couldn’t even draw a crowd, so Wolfson manufactured a blood pressure crisis over some MSNBC dweeb using standard american slang.
Americans– don’t buy into the Clinton sleaze machine. We need to deal with issues, not playground spats. We’ve had enough of that in the 90s.
Posted by: MG | February 8, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
People are too thin skinned and also have far too much time on there hands Anyone who seriously gets upsets or emotional over what anyone said about the Clinton daughter should be slapped to the ground. Believe it or not, the world is plenty full of real issues.
Posted by: Greg | February 8, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Are we as Americans as shallow, crude, callous and as so many of these posts indicate? What has happened to us that we would so casually represent ourselves to our children and the world.
Posted by: SCTS | February 8, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Why should the Clintons get to tell anyone what he or she can say? Isn’t that a form of censorship?
And isn’t it true that they are sending their daughter out to stump for Mom, making her ‘fair game’in the ugly game of politics? They made the choice and it seems to me too late to establish rules that the rest of us have to live by. And if Hillary pulls this before she is elected, what sort of censorship will she invoke if she wins?
Outrage? Publicity is more like it. She is playing the gender card again. I’m a mom which means I can play like a lionness protecting her cub–banding all the women behind her who automatically understand how it feels when a child is ‘threatened.’ But let’s get real: the comment was unsavory but far from wrong, and it certainly doesn’t rate the extreme reaction Hillary is displaying. For her, it is politics as usual, and this time she is using her daughter to gain points. This to me is as shameless as it gets.
Posted by: Deb | February 8, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Wow! Once again the Clinton’s are crying foul about being picked on! Whether they like it or not Chelsea is a public figure in the public eye doing political work for everyone else to see! But, it was alright however for Bill Clinton to stroll around South Carolina and stir up racial tensions and act like a thug throwing around his political clout. We’ll see what kind of whining happens after she the Republicans swift boat her and all her past baggage takes center stage! While I plan on voting Democratic in the coming primary, Hillary you have lost my vote even in the general election which hopefully you don’t make it to!
Posted by: Ron | February 8, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
The comment was irresponsible. Remember, Chelsea might be young but she’s a grown woman. She’s well out of college, more than old enough to vote and definitely old enough to campaign on her own for either her monther or her father. A candidate’s adult son or daughter campaigning for their parent is not an unusual occurance. If it seems a bit strange in Chelsea’s case, could it not be because people have a tendancy to think of her as the child she was during her father’s presidency rather than as the adult woman she is?
Posted by: Mark | February 8, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
The Clinton campaign is amoral. They continue to truck out surrogates to besmirch Barack Obama, and dare to complain when the shoe is on the other foot.
Posted by: Ngom | February 8, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
I don’t agree with the bad choice of words describing Hillary’s daughter but the point he was trying to make deserves some discussion. It does seem unprofessional for Hillary to be using her daughter to make personal appeals one on one to superdelegates or celebrities requesting they ‘support her mom.’ What is the person on the other end of the phone supposed to say, sorry, but your mom isn’t the best candidate? Using your family only seems okay in the public arena, but even there Chelsea is under some weird gag order to not talk to reporters.
Posted by: Lydia | February 8, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
How is a girl making phone calls to people asking them to support her mother “pimping out”? These people at MSNBC are immature JERKS, period.
Posted by: tom | February 8, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
TODAY IN THE CAMPAIGN:
Obama is talking forcefully about the economy and Iraq to a massive crowd of 20,000 right now in Seattle.
The Clintons are in various hotels, calling celebrities and fat cats, eating brie, crying about mean journalists, analyzing themselves, and generally feeling like we owe them another decade of corruption, triangulation, calculation and controversy.
Make your pick, America.
Posted by: matt | February 8, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Ask yourself if the Clinton’s response is likely to increase or decrease her poll numbers. Almost every day Hillary has been the center of the news. Is this coincidence or a well conceived PR program?
Posted by: Terry | February 8, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
The Clinton’s brought UGLY to campaigning. Now when it comes back to them they want to boycott? When will the Clinton Craziness end?
Posted by: Sarah James | February 8, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
This is all part of the dumbing down of America, loss of manners and civility and crassness becoming increasingly mainstream to the point that some people here think it’s normal.
Posted by: Joseph | February 8, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
The truth of the matter is that the Clintons are not loved by this country. They are not even liked or tolerated by the majority of Americans. The fact is they are hated by the vast majority of Americans and anyone who has not had their head stuck in mud the last few years.
Posted by: Linda Owens | February 8, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Like other people said – ‘pimp’ doesn’t exactly mean ‘pimp’ anymore.
I can’t see why the reporter was suspended. If I heard that comment, I’d have known that they meant that the Clintons were dragging their poor kid and throwing her on the phone lines to do something she may not really have wanted to.
This is truly weak.
I actually feel sorry for Chelsea…..
Posted by: Overreaction | February 8, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Boo-hoo. What don’t we all hold hands and light a candle?
Posted by: Greg | February 8, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Once again the Clintons will do anything to get their hand on power!
Don’t we all remember that Chelsea was “off the limit” when it came to press release? Now, they are using her to call Super Delegates and the View hosts. I am just shocked! What a disgrace for the nation.
Posted by: truth4ever | February 8, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Why doesn’t Harold Ford Jr. run for President and show this phoney how it’s done.
He is a man of quiet words, respectful words, and honor in what he stands for. He insults no one, sticks to the subjects, and absolutely gives equally inspiring speeches as this a$$ we have pretending to be JFK meets MLK.
Harold Ford Jr. should have won that seat in Tennessee and this joke of a Senator who votes missing in action more than yes or no, should have been shown the exit like an intruder without a ticket to the play.
Harold, you rock, and I would vote for someone classy like you. But instead we have your imposter in plastic suits with stolen words, written by white guys hired to inspire because the real guy can’t cut it.
That should be enough hideous honesty to rile you all up. Death to free speech. Take away his ability to post. Cut him off. You’d like nothing better than an Orwelian state, where Big Brother rules the kingdom but who’s changed his name to Big Bro instead. Well we are not going to be your George Smiths or Julias. We are not going to replace one republican fascist liar with another, better dressed and better spoken fascist liar with less ideas and even less on the job experience.
This is 2008. Not 1984.
Posted by: 2009 Where Are You? | February 8, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Hillary has been using the sympathy vote many times this election season. It only begs to ask the question. Is this yet another sympathy ploy for votes? It no longer works for me. I’m changing camps.
Posted by: Mary | February 8, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
previous poster:
It is fun watching liberals tear at each other, so amusing.
Response:
Nah. What you’re actually watching is the Clinton family “dynasty” in its last, desperate days. Calling the Clintons liberal is simply inaccurate. In fact, I might say McCain is more liberal then Hillary.
Posted by: McCainiac | February 8, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
This is why I love Hillary and her campaign team. They wont take crap from anybody. And when push comes to shove, they beat anyone who tries to smear them. It’s about time someone set the record straight on how biased MSNBC to her.
Posted by: matt | February 8, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
Me thinks Chelsea is a big girl now. If she wants to calll the big wigs for her mom, so be it. MSNBC’s was definitely wrong for the label. I am no Clinton lover, can’t wait for someone else to take the Big House, but it shows ole’ Hil’s colors to back out of the debate if she does. Obama is ready to debate and to take some time out of campaining in states yet to caucus or have primaries.
Bill and Hill will do anything to try to win….it would be a wonderful thing
if they go down in defeat, then we would not have to think of the Clinton Clan again!
Posted by: Dave3 in Michigqn | February 8, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
Shuster Suspended.
Posted by: BMurphyNYC | February 8, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
TO ALL OF YOU OUT THERE.
no matter who wins, the nature of these comments show that people in this country are shallow, and not able to show any kind of class about this election. Actually I think they should remove the blogs and let people just stew in their own frustration.
I must admit though NBC does seem partial to Obama. I wrote a letter to the Today show this morning because they are posting incorrect delegate totals on their website. It is widely known that Hillary Clinton has small delegate lead yet there is Obama being touted as the delegate leader with MSNBC’s fuzzy math. Now wonder people don’t think it’s right that people are using phrases like being pimped out.
What it really shows is that these reporters and writers are low class slugs. Only someone who uses that kind of language daily would write that. and no they were not talking about cars. He knew exactly what he meant when he said it. I’m tired of people running off at the mouth, being loose cannons and saying inappropriate things and then thinking saying I’m sorry is going to make it okay.
As I said at the beginning whether, it’s Hillary, Obama or McCain, it’s not going to change the attitudes of people. People mean what they say and show their true colors with their words. Apologies don’t change people.
Posted by: JJ | February 8, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
I have wondered often where has Tucker Carlson gone as I have not seen him on CNN Tucker was the guy who said that he would eat a shoe if Hillary sold a million copies of her book. When the sale exceeds the million copy mark, Hillary went on Tucker’s show with a chocolate cake in the shape of a shoe and a copy of her book. Hillary was just too generous to nasty journalists like Tucker who now is serving in MSNBC. Now Chris Mathews is trying to outshine Tucker in unprofessional journalistic behavior. Perhaps Hillary was too nice to Tucker when Tucker put down her book. She should have insisted that Tucker ate a shoe instead of a chocolate cake in the shape of a shoe, then this Chris guy might behave with a tiny bit of decency. It is time for Chris to go as he does not meet the minimum stardard of journalism. He should be the spokesmand for Obama instead of a staff member of msnbc. No objective journalist can be allowed to do what he has repeatedly done. Time to go, Chris.
Posted by: edwin | February 8, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
A daughter should be able to campaign for her mother with out the usual, demeaning language society uses against women.
Anyone representing a news channel should not use such gross language. NBC is not MTV. They shouldn’t even try. By all the comments I see, you would think Chelsea has “asked for it”. Typical Misogynistic language.
Posted by: Gracie2008 | February 8, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
MSNBC and Schuster have apologized to Hillary, so she is reconsidering pulling out of the debate. How noble of her. She succeeded in getting more sympathy votes this time by using her daughter. She knew what the reporter meant, and of course, it was a poor choice of words. But if it can get her some more votes, hey, why not blow it way out of proportion. And it worked. Nic e going, Hillary. You sure are ‘strong’!
Posted by: newsflash | February 8, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
Give me a break. That was exactly what Chelsea was being used for. First, it was Bill Clinton. When that backfired, he retreated and then it was Chelsea who was brought out to be used. Now that everyone is on to the Chelsea strategy, she’ll go into hiding. If Hillary needs someone to fight fires for her, she’ll make a miserable president because she doesn’t allow herself the risk of being put in a bad light. C’mon people. It’s time to recognize that she’s devisive, conizing, uncilivized, manipulative, mendacious, deceitful, and sociopathic.
Posted by: Getalife | February 8, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
Yeah, like NYT and CNN did not show their unfair bias to Obama?
Posted by: truth4ever | February 8, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
Man a live. The Republicans and Clinton Haters are out in force tonight.
Don’t take the bait folks.
What would you think if those same three from MSNBC were to say that Obama was pimping his daughters every time he brought them out on stage with him. And is he pimping his wife by having her stump for him?? Lets get real folks. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
Posted by: gcbfred | February 8, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
The actual story here is:
CLINTONS PIMP THE MEDIA FOR THE SYMPATHY VOTE DAY BEFORE KEY PRIMARIES
Posted by: mg | February 8, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
I think NBC management should really do something about this for any future mis-behavior by their employees. Their employees got eggs on their face and time again and again have to come out say some sappy words including sorry, due to “misunderstanding”.
I don’t have any respect for them anymore. We should boycott NBC period.
Posted by: Mike | February 8, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
It seems fair to me that Chelsea would assist the Clinton campaign calling highly targeted people. It is shrewd, sneaky and sly but it is fair. It also shows that Hillary is in the race for the ride, the glitz and the glamor. It also shows that Hillary does not represent the average American. You go girl! Keep on bringing out the truth that Hillary could care less about us and more about herself!
Posted by: Daleri | February 8, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
I used to watch Olbermann and enjoy it.I told all my friends about this show. But lately Keith and David Shuster and most of the other commentators are really biased against Hillary Clinton I’m so very disappointed in David Shuster whose antagonism toward Hillary Clinton has been apparent for a while. I can’t trust anything they say.
Posted by: Margery | February 8, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
I am an advid viewer of Chris Mathews! His love for Obama is making me think I need to find another show to watch during his time slot! Chris I have one thing to say to you! GO Hillary!
Posted by: Randy Marshall | February 8, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
The Truth is oh so painful isn’t it Hillary? stop pimping out the daughter and people will stop telling on you.
Posted by: Patriot2008 | February 8, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
GROW UP its all an act to get voters to feel sorry for them.Is that who you really want for President someone who cries every time she doesn’t get her way.By the way the comment about Obaham’s wife was cruel how did it get posted?
Posted by: sally | February 8, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
How low can MSNBC sink? Gutter language is being used to attack a young woman who is doing what all the candidates’ children are doing.
Chris Mathews has to go as he does not meet the lowest standard of jourhalistic requirements. He should be “pimped” out to the Obama camp.
Posted by: adwin | February 8, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
What happened to the right of free speech?? Can’t a commentator make a comment on a talk show? And besides, isn’t it true that Hillary is indeed pimping out Chelsea??
Posted by: Curt | February 8, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
A lot of Obama supporters are just not very nice people. The pimping remark was not just slang, it was meant to be hurtful. It’s bad enough that someone in the corrupt MSM would say it, but worse that Obama supporters would defend it and even go nastier in their comments.
Posted by: Tom in MA | February 8, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Really people,NBC & David Shuster were both “pimped” out by the Obama campaign.Why isn’t anyone commenting on OPRAH and the way she is pushing her WEIGHT around and insisting that friends,employees and associates contribute to the Obama campaign.If america really wants to know about Obama,they ought to Google him.It won’t take but a few minutes to find out just how much he has lied to the voters.These are facts he can’t hide and NOT supporters of Hillary or anyone else.These are FACTS. Wake up america.
Posted by: Steve | February 8, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
The media just fawns over Obama and encourages adulation from his cultist supporters. The Center for Media and Public Affairs reported that Hillary Clinton is getting the worst press and Barack Obama the best press of any major presidential candidate, and Bill Clinton is also getting negative reviews. The study also finds that FOX’s evening news show had the most coverage of policy issues and the least coverage of the campaign horse race.
Posted by: Joseph | February 8, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Funny how there’s always some Clintonian outrage the day before important elections. Geez, I wonder if this will be all over cable news tonight… wait… this just in:
NEWSFLASH
CLINTONS PIMP THE MEDIA FOR SYMPATHY IN LAST DESPERATE ATTEMPT TO RETAIN POWER
Posted by: mtg | February 8, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Well, I stopped watching MSNBC and going on their website. I have encouraged all of my students to do the same and they’re spreading the word. The reason; One night, at the beginning of the candidates stump speeches and primaries, Keith Olberman, Chris Mathews and that other guy with dark hair and a big nose, from “‘Something’ Country” were extremely unprofessional and bizarre to say the least as they laughed uncontrollably about John McCain, while John McCain was making a speech after a primary. I could not hear a word McCain was saying, more importantly I was disgusted with the juvenile behavior of supposed “news anchors”. The whole station is as big a joke as Fox News. You know a station’s credibility is lacking when someone like Olberman is fanatically obsessed with the Britney Spears phenomenon, while contributing to the media mistreatment of her as well. I don’t even know a single song that kid has done; I only know Olberman is too freaky about her.
Posted by: irma | February 8, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Being recently retired, I have had, for the first time, the opportunity to follow the primaries. It was my hope to acquire information that would enable me to make an informed decision. This has been impossible. TV does not provide us with information. Instead, all stations focus on increasing their rating. Now, as the above blogs show, msnnbc has been successful this time.
At present, I watch each of the three major stations. This is in order to confirm a recent decision. It is to become very “active” and get voters to boycott every one of the top three major TV stations after this election.
After their ratings drop, their advertising dollars also will drop. It is then that voters can hope to receive non bias reporting in future elections.
A presidential primary and general election affects everyone. The final results determine: a person’s opportunity to receive an education that would prepare them to have a job that was not shipped over sea. Also, if successful, they will not need to fear becoming ill would deplete either their finances or parents.
It would take a book to list the many ways that a president has a negative or pasitive affect on everyone.
The point being is that when so many are dependent upon TV for information, we must make it be non bias during every elections.
PS: If we hope to attract the best, we need to stop allowing the media to keep reporting like the tabloids.
Yes: msnbc was totally out of line when calling Hillary daughter a “pimp” Enough is enough.
Posted by: Phyllis | February 8, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
I am a Canadian viewer, and I am personally in awe with the disgusting behaviour of the American media. They have completely turned this delegate race into a one-person thing: Obama, Obama, Obama. They rarely mention his flaws or that he has a lack of experience; all they do is go on about how great he could be for the nation (from their eyes by the way) and Clinton is somehow the wicked witch of the west. I don’t think that’s fair at all, and I think Americans should stick to the actual issues at hand and not be influenced by a couple dozen people in New York or LA.
Posted by: Ryan | February 8, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
I think the Obama campaign is feeding on an anti-Hillary frenzy by stoking more fire through proselytized fanatics. what is so appalling is the kind of attacks and antipathy displayed by these haters. they can no longer speak with rationale. they are elated and cheery when Hillary or her family members were smeared while irritated and upset when Obama is being critisized. If Obama’s supporters are a reflection of his candidacy, imagine what we expect after he ascends to the presidency.
Posted by: lochukung | February 8, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Chris Dodd definitely uses math from another planet. His figures, laughingly represent MSNBC, are totally way off and showing Oboma leading Hillary, when it is the other way around with CNN (suggoate for Oboma), CBS, ABC, FoxNews. Hillary is leading all delegates count according to those media channels. Well… it looks like the unprofessionalim also seep to the math calculations where they twist facts to suit MSNbC desires.
I like Pat Buchanan and Dan Abrams though.
Posted by: Mike | February 8, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Everything and I repeat everything is done by the Clintons for personal gain.
The real story here is to try and get the debates to a more Clinton friendly network (CNN). I personally think the Clintons are afraid to take questions from Brian Williams and Tim Russert because they’ll ask both candidates the hard questions. Too bad, because I was really looking forward to them.
At the end of the day it’s all about trying to get back in the driver’s seat for the Clintons. Their fundraising burst didn’t get them there (Obama outraised them). So why not play this up more than it needs to be?
But to suggest such a thing (as is evidence on this board) is to be sexist and all women everywhere should uprise against the tyrannical suppression by evil men like David Schuster and turn out in droves to vote for the Clintons is propaganda.
For a couple that has a dynasty and legacy of wrecking people’s lives through the politics of personal destruction, America will be the judge on how sincere this latest outrage is.
Posted by: JW | February 8, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
MSMBC along with a vast majority of the rest of our corrupt liberal MSM wolfpack has been “promoting” Obama since August 2006.
Obama has been afforded 10′s millions of dollars of “in-kind” contributions from the most corrupt institution in America, our wolfpack press.
Look how they promoted Obama and Huckabee weeks before the Iowa primary.
For crying out loud CNN calls Obama a “Rock Star” almost everytime they do a piece on him.
Has anyone ever heard CNN call Mitt Romney a “rock star”?………..no!
We need MAJOR reforms in our corrupt press corps and we need these reforms not tomorrow our next week………we need them RIGHT NOW!
Posted by: Allen Ridge | February 8, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Shuster shouldn’t have said what he said, but there was nothing sexist about his commments. Why is that anytime someone speaks out against Hillary her supporters call that person sexist?
We can’t afford to dumb things down to boys vs. girls when America’s future is at stake.
Posted by: Evan | February 8, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Posted by: mary | Feb 8, 2008 2:55:45 PM-”Would he use the word pimp if she was a son?”
Mary – You and I, along with everyone else who reads this knows the answer – ABSOLUTELY NO WAY!!
Even if they won’t admit it, most racial bigots at least KNOW they’re bigots. What’s scaring me these days is running into serious gender bias from people who honestly don’t believe they have it.
Posted by: Patiently | February 8, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Here is the most cogent and articulate comment supporting the Clintons posted yet (below).
It kind of sums up for me the kind of dupes who fall for Wolfson’s engineered media stunts. WOW (gasp). Read it and weep, my friends!
“I found that Obama supporters is not humanity. Do you really know Obama? Do you know he is not mulism? Do you how he bought his house? Do you know how he attack Hillary again and again, and Hillary could not say anything about him?”
Posted by: John | Feb 8, 2008 5:45:00 PM
Posted by: MG | February 8, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
There is a pattern. One day before an election, the Clintons always manages to get the headlines. Is it pure coincidence? Hill and Bill are deceitful and disgraceful.
Asking your daughter to call Super Delegates and the View hosts for their votes are just wrong! When they touted over keeping her life “private.” They lost my vote for ever!!!
Posted by: truth4ever | February 8, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
MSNBC journalists are Obama surrogates. Their bias for other candidates, especially the Clintons is too extreme that my friends and I no longer watch it. We should at least trust that our journalist will be fair, even if the hate other candidates. MSNBC should clean it whole house and should show respect for women. It is a pattern in this network.
Posted by: john white | February 8, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
This shows that Hillary is in the race for the ride, the glitz and the glamor. It also shows that Hillary does not represent the average American. You go girl! Keep on bringing out the truth that Hillary could care less about us and more about herself!
This conversation is going so fast, I can’t even keep up. It is more of a fight between democrats but keep in mind that Hillary is not fit to be President. It is not really known what Obama will do but he will likely endorse the infanticide of American infants the same as Hillary.
Posted by: Daleri | February 8, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Oh, my Lord! Has America become such a gutter that a well-known reporter could use such language on a young lady? I would never have associated thie FOUR LETTER word with Chelsea or any of the candidates’ offsprings. MATHEWS HAVE GONE OFF THE DEEP END AND HE SHOULD STAY IN THE DIRTY WATER AND NOT SURFACE AGAIN TO MAKE AMERICAN MEDIA DIRTIER THAT IT IS ALREADY. WHERE DID HE GO TO SCHOOL? GUTTER UNIVERSITY?
Posted by: LORI | February 8, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Give me a break. I hear Clinton bashing Bush almost every day and she never every apologized for her comments. I think NBC and the Clintons are being too hard on Hardball. As a black man I think the Democratic Party has never shaken their pre & post civil war racist ways. But if Obama would get the nomination I might change my mind. At work I have overheard several Democrats talk how they would never vote for Obama because he was black. On the other hand several white Republican friends have told me they would vote for Obama over John McCain but would never vote for any Clinton. I wish Obama was running on the Republican ticket. Hillary Clinton has done nothing but lie, cheat, and steal her way into politics. Now she is bringing a big stink about some little words because she doesn’t want to revel her finances and thinks she can deflect Obama’s questions about them. Has everyone forgotten that she made $100,000 off a $1000 investment in a year? How she did that was never answered when Bill ran in 1992. When Bush was elected and the Clintons left the Whitehouse they stole several items that had to be returned to the Whitehouse. Their comment was oh we didn’t know those items were National treasures and were just taking keepsakes. Well I could continue to go on but I must go.
Posted by: Joe Blow | February 8, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Here comes the ‘Ice Queen’. Does not matter if everyone votes against her, she will be president in order to continue the Bush/Clinton dynasty. She will ask Obama to be her VP since he is also a member of the Council on Foreign relations. Just watch!
Posted by: Bill Hicks | February 8, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Obama has no vision and does not know how to
change. It is a solid fact undisputable and verified by Obama himself in his book called “Audacity of Hope”.
A very extraordinary illustration from Obama himself that glaringly shows hypocrisy of spectacular proportions. From the beginning in his Prologue Obama admits to serious, flaws that contradict the very foundation of his basic platform for “Change to believe in”.
Obama said in his book: “The topics of his book how we might begin the process of changing our politics and civic life. This isn’t to say that I know exactly how to do it. I don’t”. America he doesn’t know how to change!! Incredible!!
America do you read this statement the way I do? Obama said he does not know how to change yet parades around with the theme of “Change to believe in”. Very extraordinary to write about change one way and parade around the country telling the electorate another. It’s absolutely insane.
Worse, Obama said a few lines later “I offer no unifying theory of American government”. America, for a man who taught Law and the Constitution at the University of Chicago for eight to ten years to make a statement like that is pure stupidity. Good God, The very Constitution is the most unifying document ever produced in modern history that created America and the most powerful government in history.
For those who support Obama they should ask him about his change and detail what the heck it is. If Obama has no unifying theory and completely disregards the Constitution, what does he believe in, an Islamic theory? Please when you vote think about what you’re doing this man needs to answer those questions. America has no ideal what Obama believes in, yet thousands follow him around like brain dead followers that never question his believe. Obama’s change is likely worse than chump change in my opinion.
Posted by: UGOCHUKWU | February 8, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
RYAN FROM CANADA; Thank you! You are right. Don’t think that the 24 news media represents all Americans. There are those of us who read the news for ourselves along with more deeply informative books. Besides, those news groups are Republican owned, thus the obvious slant and vulgarity against certain people and groups. Unfortunately, not everyone is aware or cares to be aware of that fact.
Posted by: irma | February 8, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
I can’t believe the venom in a lot of these comments. If someone accused me of pimping out my child I would be upset too. What happened to any sort of civility in this country? Is it now acceptable to savage anyone who doesn’t agree with us? The media reflects our society. We should all be ashamed of ourselves!
Posted by: fieldsms | February 8, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
CNN stands for Clinton Nation Network.
NYT once a great paper now stands for New York Tabloid.
How dare you talk about bias! What kind of question is that? ” Which do you like more, diamonds or pearls? ” in a presidential debate? What a joke!
Posted by: truth4ever | February 8, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
Jerry….i cant’t watch msnbc any more it’s a obama
network,i wish they could balance and fair
If you want Fair and Balanced, then the Watch Fox News Network
Posted by: Hee Hee | February 8, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
These talking heads need to learn that they can’t just say any derogatory, defamatory, inappropriate thing they want and then just say “Sorry” and it all goes away. That moron Imus has set the tone now and it’s just going to get worse. They should never have put him back on the air. Reminds me of the person who rudely cuts you off in traffic and waves as though thanking you. Same mentality. Soulless. Simpson, Van Der Sloot, Peterson, Peterson…
Posted by: Momvar | February 8, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
I can’t believe the venom in the above comments. If someone accused me of pimping out my child I would be upset too. What happened to civility in this country? When did it become acceptable to savage anyone that we disagree with? The news media reflects the audience it serves. We should all be ashamed of ourselves!
Posted by: fieldsms | February 8, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
I think its called freedom of speech. Let the man say what he wants…other people shouldnt take it so offensively. I dont really understand why people get so upset about these things. if you dont like it…you dont have to believe it, just go your own way.
Posted by: Nicole | February 8, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Do you notice when MSNC mention Hillary, “she” and “her” words are used to refer to Hillary , instead of referring to her name?
Rachel someone (an analyst?) from MSNBC is extremely opinionated and hate Hillary. Her facial expression is plainly shown on TV.
I stopped watched NBC because of Obama biased opinions by Tim Russert and Brian Williams. I occasionally watch MSNBC just to get a good hearty laugh to see how many holes they are digging themselves for that day by sprouting their mouths on air in a very unprofessional way. I thought they are supposed to be journalists, but their kindergaren show just sound like the stuffs they print at magazines that are on sale at the supermarket.
NBC, You are losing viewership. Guess you just don’t care.
Posted by: JP | February 8, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Has anyone else thought it was strange that so many of these posts are about how MSNBC used a bad word against a Clinto, and now the poster is going to vote for Hillary? That’s insane! I guess I’ll vote for McCain cause his name starts with Mc and I like McDonald’s hamburgers. Makes about as much sense!!!!
Posted by: heavens above! | February 8, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Good to see Hillary’s campaign bullies people out of free speech…..sounds like the Bush campaign.
Posted by: Cat | February 8, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Who does this guy think he is ?….Don Imus ?? (lol) I hope it’s as easy to keep Hillary from going to the White House.
Posted by: Doug | February 8, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
The people on this site are so clueless. He didn’t mean she was getting “pimped out” in the literal sense. He was talking about the fact that the Clintons are using Chelsey to get the celebrity and the superdelegate votes thats all. And they are doing just that. He was right because that’s exactly what there doing. Also Ms. Clinton has so far ran her campaign on getting the sympathy vote (by crying on numerous occasions and acting like the victim on other occasions). It seems like the general public is the one who is getting “pimped out” because people continue to fall for this stuff.
Posted by: Helena486 | February 8, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Of course his comments were vile. The things being said against Hillary from the establishment, commerial (or should I say, vile) media have been flagrantly unfair too. The bias against Hillary is ignoble and unfounded and comes from many places. I am for Hillary and against Obama, and that’s not based on vile emotions …
Posted by: PC | February 8, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
I love this country, I just can’t ever picture Hillary Clinton running it! It will be like another LBJ era, which in my mind started this great nation on its present down hill slide!
Posted by: 312 capri | February 8, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
I think what they meant is that Hillary was selling out her daughter for the sake of her campaign, not that there was actually any pimping going on. You people use the expression of being in bed with other people when you don’t actually mean that they are in bed with them. It is the same sort of expression that is commonly used. Grow up or stop using those kinds of expressions in the first place!
Posted by: Daleri | February 8, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
So I guess if Barrack asks Michelle Obama to be surrogate for him on a fundraiser, then he is basically “pimping her out” for money.
Posted by: SoOverObama | February 8, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
It’s really hard to take seriously many of the comments on this article. People who can’t take the time to form a complete sentence should rethink their authority on subjects they are more emotionally than rationally invested in.
As for Shuster’s comment, it is obvious to anyone under the age of 50 that the usage of the slang “pimping out” is common parlance and has come to mean “strongly promoting,” not “forcing the sale of sex for money” and is no longer a gender specific epithet, in fact it doesn’t necessarily imply a negative connotation. What is unfortunate is that Shuster unwittingly has given Hillary’s campaign another opportunity to manipulate the narrative to make it seem like she is once again victim of a misogynist conspiracy.
If you ask me, the sexism at play in this election lies in the pro-Hillary-cause-she’s-a-woman-and-so-am-I crowd. According to the polls, those who support Obama tend to be educated people and of diverse racial and gender backgrounds. They are tired of the manipulations and pandering of Clinton’s win-at-all-costs campaign tactics, and if there is anyone to blame for negative press about her, look to the members of her own campaign (including and perhaps especially Bill). While Hillary has been busy smearing, prevaricating, and adapting her message to whichever crowd she is addressing, Obama has remained a single personality, driving home the same message. Perhaps it is because he is not politics as usual, and because he began as a relatively unknown entity (as opposed to the ubiquitous and formerly “inevitable” Hillary) that he is simply a better news story, and in a news cycle dominated by negative narratives, his has been a mostly positive story at that.
If you haven’t yet had the revelation that political punditry is predominantly op/ed and that TV doesn’t/shouldn’t make up your mind for you, you are part of the problem, not the solution.
Posted by: Q | February 8, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
First, let me state that I am a ardent Obama supporter. That said, I think what Shuster said is disgusting and outrageous. If it was said about my daughter, I would want to say a whole lot more than what the Clintons have been able to respond.
I can’t beleive that so many comments (I could only stomach reading a couple dozen before writing) are taking this opportunity to voice opinions about the Clintons, Obama, McCain, and Huckabee – pro or con.
This is a no-brainer. I was offended yesterday and today in several places by being told I belong to a cult – the comment about Chelsea is worse.
In a year when it seems we may (at least from here on out) have a civil campaign between the two democratic front-runners, and may even hope to have a civil general election (that probably depends on who the dem candidate ends up being) – the pundits and self-elected elite of the media have taken it upon themselves to keep us in the gutter. Shame on all of you.
Posted by: MRA | February 8, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Lots of the news media is becoming more and more transparent in their sexist attitudes. Are men just so so afraid of have a woman in charge that they feel his kind of negative attack is okay? If this is you way of supporting Obama as a man because of your insecurities, as a Hillary supporter, believe me I will not vote for Obama. Or, is this your way to try to get Obama to be the nominee expecting Hillary supports will stay home or vote Republican? No Hillary sounds like a write-in campaign needed for Ron Paul.
Posted by: Judi A Nickels | February 8, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
It’s the time delay between the insult and apology that will hurt Shuster and MSNBC most, as it has damaged other media reputations. The delay (and initial refusal to even acknowledge the mistake) implies that Shuster didn’t get it until MSNBC brass explained it to him. If media personalities want to avoid escalating mistakes like this they should take an immersion program on PR crisis management, particularly if they’re on the air. Here’s a good start:
Peter
Posted by: Peter | February 8, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
MSNBC suprisingly biased…
Rather than that, better refer to her having striking resemblance to Alex Kingston of NBC’s so famous ‘ER.’ After Super Tuesdays Bon Fire of ‘not vanity,’how about staying a bit calmer than thowing snowball with personal taste?
Posted by: MasamiK | February 8, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
It strikes me that “Herself” cannot have it both ways. The daughter is up there on the stage, grinning and waving, yet, any interviews, questions, virtually any non-scripted contact is prohibited. And the third side of the coin, she makes who knows how many ‘Upscale’ arm twister phone calls. And now they are upset over a word? Get real, Get out! Go away!
Posted by: Thomaz | February 8, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
just got a whiff of this story and it sounds like an overblown deal like imus and who ever it was. the guy goofed, spouted off -very dumb. but just a goofy dumb ugly and unprofessional mistake. he doesnt need to be crucified on the cross. he needed to apologize and he did. everyone needs to get over it. there are a lot more imortant things to worry about.
edwards to obama supporter here, but am truly trying to be objective.
Posted by: lori | February 8, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
P.S. Some of you bloggers sound just down right ignorant. Come on people. This is not a black or white issue, so please don’t make it one.
Posted by: Helena486 | February 8, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
If these commits were made towards Obama’s daughter, the NBC staffers would be fired and called racist. Where is the justice?
Posted by: Texas voter | February 8, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
So, if Schuster would have said the same thing about Mrs Obama who is doing the same exact thing that Chelsea is doing – what would the result be?
It’s ok with you folks here and MSNBC that a young lady who working with her mother is demeaned publicly by tabloid journalists? Why is everyone offering their approvals for the demeaning and bashing of Hillary Clinton and now her daughter? These are about the poorest quality of people ever. Shame on MSNBC and shame on the rest of you.
Posted by: Lou | February 8, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
sure is funny! Aren’t these the same folks that promote that has-been sports news announcer? He’s worse than this guy. What up? Oh yea…
I guess its okay to be really repulsive if its republicans or conservatives your bad mouthing…..MSNBC,no wonde your dead last in ratings…
Posted by: Jake | February 8, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
I see most of the people write repugnant/distasteful/odnoxious comments about the “Clinton” is do to the fact they don’t know the microcosm of the family…They talk about Bill for helping now Chelsea… All the haters go back to your family and apologize for your action because I know you did something wrong and that is why you have been banned from your family and you don’t want to see a close family make it…
And for all you O-bama fans, why couldn’t O-bama PERSUADE enough people for voting AGAINST the war…the reason is he is not persuasive to make the republican and or democrats to change any decision. But he wants to unite the country…please, give me a break..
Count on someone that can do the job
VOTE HILLARY
Posted by: BYRON HOLMES | February 8, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
My guess in all this, and I hope I’m right, is that a mature 28-year-old woman has made a decision on her own to help campaign for her mother to become the next President of the United States, and she’s ignoring the crass remark and all this bickering from everyone. Being above the fray and not dignifying MSNBC’s lack of judgment with a response is how Chelsea should handle this saga.
Posted by: eric | February 8, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
byron holmes,sorry but clinton is not the one that can make things change. she has so many strings attached she will hardly move on her own. c’mon, we need obama as a last resort since edwards is out. obama, countin’ on you to do the job.
sorry to hear all these ugly words out there. try to stick to the facts. like fact: hillary has strings attached
Posted by: lori | February 8, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Let’s rephrase the statement as it should be:
Hillary sold out her own daughter (for free) for the sake of her campaign to persuade celebrities and “super delegates”.
That doesn’t sound very good.
How about: Chelsea volunteered to help her mother’s campaign… targeting only celebrities and “super delegates”.
That still doesn’t sound very good.
Any way you put it, Hillary could care less about us and more about herself!
Posted by: Daleri | February 8, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
It amazes me what people take offense to. Maybe pimping was the word that offended but the actions she is doing is about the same thing. He said in “some sort of wierd way” meaning he wasnt implying she was playing the piano with everyone she called but she was being used the same way, and willingly, which those women used by pimps usually are
Posted by: beverly | February 8, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
If Obama campaign can utilize Oprah, Caroline, then surprisingly Maria, why can’t Hilliary use her family members to campaign for he? Simply because they are the members of the Clinton family? If say early on Obama felt he was running against two Clintons, I’d say right now Clinton’s running agianst 10 Obamas (1 Oprah = 9 Obama’s already). It seems that no one looks at it that way. The media makes big deal out of things said by Clintons, but when it comes to Obama everything seems to be ok. Overall the media and press have been biased, especially MSNBC. Those crappy people. There’s only one person seems to care about Clinton, but too bad I don’t remember his name. I will next time.
Posted by: snakebaby | February 8, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Cynical_me, so I guess as if Barrack asks Michelle Obama to be surrogate for him at a fundraiser, then he is “pimping her out” too. So as long as it applies to both sides, I have no problem with it…
Posted by: SoOverObama | February 8, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Lets face facts here people. Chris Matthews for serveral months now has bash Senator Clinto on most of her issues for months now, he’s just plain rude and ignorant. Now he can’t get the public to sway from Clinton to Obama. So what does he and that Shuster sit in there chairs and say now, let’s just put it out there that Chelsea Clinton is out pimping for her mom. These two should be fired if someone was to say this about other people children of color they wouldn’t be on the air today. Imus was fired. The reporter on another network was suspended for saying the word “lynched” on air. Matthews and Shuster are uneducated and need to be put out like everyone had to do.
Posted by: Sherry | February 8, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
OK conservatives, Clinton 1 lowered our deficit, boosted the economy and worked hard to bring consensus to all parties…even ones he didn’t agree with (don’t ask don’t tell). Your guy started a trillion-dollar war without end, SHAMED the USA in front of the entire world (you know, the other 5.6 billion people out there), screwed up the economy, tripled your fuel costs and smiled all the way through it. And you want more? WTF? You’ve been duped! Elect Obama or Hillary PLEASE. Bush has personally cost you $3000+ so far out of your paycheck to pay off Halliburton and kill countless people. And you’re upset about shelling out a few extra bucks so that your poorer neighbors have healthcare so when you see them on the street, they smile because they are healthy? And they don’t have to become homeless to pay their medical bills so that you have to stare at their signs on the way to your massage appointment? Please…if you can’t vote for Clinton or Obama, please don’t bother to vote…it will save us all a lot of time, money and tears!
Posted by: V P | February 8, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
Excude me if I manage to repeat a point some else has already made. There are so many opinions and this is exactly where they belong, even if some are less than civil in nature.
I recall when journalists reported the news and only the news. I supopse it could be said that even the Walter Cronkites, Howard K. Smiths and David Brinkleys of the world may have been somewhat biased in their reporting, but today’s reporters seem to have thrown out all attempt at being unbiased and even handed. Even their vocabulary seems to play to the lowest common denominator rather than making use of the thesaurus and lifting the rest of us to a higher level of thought, they dumb things down. Too often journalism is replaced with speculation, inference or opinion rather than the facts.
Even where the program is all about opinion, the opinion is expressed with base expressions that are inflammatory or denegrate one part of the population causing us all to become polarized and angry. Certainly this style of journalism increases the corporate bottom line, but it serves no public good.
Posted by: Michael Guelker-Cone | February 8, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
I’m watching this channel, again and again they make big fuss out of what Clintons said, but almost nothing when it comes to what Obama said – either attacks, or comments showing him very devisive (only one person has been fair), they do nothing. Look, there are so many Clinton supporters (smaller numbers use internet and throw in comments though), why don’t they get non-biased or Clinton supporters as guests? Maybe some get lured over to Obama as the result of all these, but I’m the person that leaning more and more towards Clinton because they haven’t been fair!
Posted by: snakebaby | February 8, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
respond to Lori, answer the second part of my question….and please tell me what has O-bama change while in the senate?
And for all you O-bama fans, why couldn’t O-bama PERSUADE enough people for voting AGAINST the war…the reason is he is not persuasive to make the republican and or democrats to change any decision. But he wants to unite the country…please, give me a break..
Count on someone that can do the job
VOTE HILLARY
Posted by: BYRON HOLMES | February 8, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
If you don’t want someone to be called a “pimp”—don’t use them as a pimp!!!!
It is the Clintons who decided to use Chelsea for their own benefit—now that just about every thing that they are doing is back firing (letting Bill loose/Hillary playing a dissed woman/Hillary playing a tough “man”/Hillary getting in the kitchen/Hillary beating the “good-’ol-boyz” network/Hillary the inevitable front runner/Hillary the “broke” underdog)—it is time to pick on the media (“the far right wing conspiracy” style).
David Shuster’s choice of adjectives to describe Chelsea could have been better; it does not take away from what she has been doing to advance the career of her mother. Remember, in Bill Clinton days, (unlike Amy Carter in Jimmy Carter days) Chelsea was off limits—unlike Amy, she attended a private school, and was never really discussed in the media until her own parents decided to put her in this circus. For the Clinton campaign to start pouting and holding their breath because the media “picked” on one of their campaign members (yes—that is what Chelsea is even if she is Hillary’s daughter) reeks of desperate attempt to get attention and more importantly “free” air time.
Two things:
1. David Shuster should consider better language—but under no circumstances should he be reprimanded or taken off the air. We are not dealing with “King Hillary” yet!!!
2. If the Clintons don’t want someone picking on Chelsea—open a law firm for her and make her a senior partner—why bother climbing up the ladder like the rest of us; taking shots for mistakes we may make and learning from them; hell- why not let her run for “President” in a few more years—she was in the White House for eight years and clearly has the experience.
Posted by: Imran | February 8, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
They are frustated about Clinton’s prospect. After so much of expectation Barack Hussein Obama couldnot do well in Feb 5 and these blind supporters ( they r not journalists)feel they are loosing and are frustated. See the differences of delegates CNN and other networks are projecting and MSNBC.This is equivalent to FOX.
Posted by: nab | February 8, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Bad choice of words.
He apologized.
Let’s move on.
Whatever happened to “Stick and stones can break my words but words can never hurt me”?
Sheesh, America has sure become a thin skinned nation.
Posted by: Ivan | February 8, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
It has been obvious from the onset of the presidential campaigning, that the news media as a whole, including MSNBC, has been biased against Senator Clinton and, in particular, has, with “goo goo” eyes, favored Senator Obama and Senator McCain. If the media had spent a fraction of the time it allots to “bad mouthing” the Clintons on more important matters such as objectively critiquing the Bush Administration, rather than “polishing apples,” this nation would not be facing the problems that it is.
Posted by: mongo100 | February 8, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Bad choice of words.
He apologized.
Let’s move on.
Whatever happened to “Stick and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me”?
Sheesh, America has sure become a thin skinned nation.
Posted by: Ivan | February 8, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Get a life, Clinton campaign! I’m a great fan of Senator Clinton, but this “pimp out” flap is simply the result of a generation gap.
The verb “to pimp, to pimp out” is very, very common (urban) slang among the under-30′s. Schuster, who’s a very tough reporter and needed by viewers, was using slang. Let’s not be fundamentalists and take everything literally.
Additionally, even to this Clinton fan (I’m an Obama fan too), there was something a bit uneasy about Chelsea’s lobbying Superdelegates, if she did.
On the other hand, she is a grown-up and it’s a free country. She might feel she has the right to try as hard as she can for her mother’s historic run.
Posted by: Pamelaki | February 8, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Are you kidding me? What about those major network anchors that ignornantly and blantantly and shamefully bashed the mormon church. Talk to your established historians from Harvard or Columbia, if you want real history, but the truth is you don’t. The networks on occasion have been slanderous and terribly wrong. Suspend some of your own!
Posted by: Jeremy | February 8, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
No one wants to say too much about Obama because it might be viewed as a racial thing …and he seems like a nice sort of person but the truth is that neither of the dems have the integrity or intention of protecting the lives of our American infants.
Posted by: Daleri | February 8, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
I continue to read such terrible remarks about the Clintons. Isn’t it just a coincidence that all these nasty remarks are coming up right now, in the middle of the Schuster and MSNBC remarks? After Super Tuesday??? And Obama is clean huh?
So the Obama campaign has decided to jump on the same wagon as Schuster and give it to Hillary and now her daughter. It is so obvious that all these negative remarks on the Clintons have been planted by the Obama campaign.
But wait until the Republicans get their hairy hands all over Mr. princely obama – what in the H are you obama supporter going to do then?
Oh I know, you’ll run to David Schuster and MSNBC and ask them to please dish up more dirt on the Clintons and now especially Chelsea.
Oh the double standards..
Posted by: Lou | February 8, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Yes, Let’s Boycott the NBC Democratic debates. Their reporters have been far too opinionated, especially against the Clintons. This is comments made by their reporter David Shuster is going far overboard. I was also offended by Matt Lauer, bringing in a cut and paste photo of the Clinton’s with Rezko and asking her on the air about it. NBC really needs to get some un-biased reporters who concentrate on humanist skills and quality journalism to report an issue. Therefore, until NBC can get their act together, I will not support their unprofessional reports. President 2008 = Hillary, All the Way. Go Hillary!
Posted by: CHJ | February 8, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Why is everything always seen as a Clinton trick? The sexism on MSNBC and the favorite son bias towards Obama have been glaring. I used to be a big MSNBC watcher and I am (choking while I say this) finding that FOX news shows more balance. I will vote for Hillary and have turned the channel because they do nothing but beat up on her. Where is journalism? Take this issue for the issue, Shuster messed up.
Posted by: Jamie | February 8, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
I *hope* Obama’s Grassroots Movement can overcome the Political Machine———–Go Grassroots!
Posted by: Cat | February 8, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
I haven’t heard about this one. When do the Clintons learn?
Posted by: LongT | February 8, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
I thought that Hillary was supposed to be thick skinned and tough. Wait until the GOP starts in on her. She’ll be nostalgic for little problems like this.
Posted by: Dave in Spokane | February 8, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
I don’t understand why any real democrat would want a Political Machine to beat a true Grassroots Movement!
Posted by: Cat | February 8, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
The is pure Clinton spin to use any distraction to take peoples attention off the fact that Obama is out raising her, getting more endorsements and beating her in states won and delegates. That Super Tuesday was supposed to be her coronation and ended up in a loss for her is exactly what she doesn’t want the focus on so she will pimp her daughter to distract. If Hilary wanted to do right by her daughter she would have divorced that cheating sociopath of a husband to show her how not to be an abused Tammy Wynette standing by her man, but riding her husbands coattails into the White House was more important. Please America let’s put these selfish, self-centered, ME generation, white collar criminals out to pasture once and foe all!
Posted by: geddesman | February 8, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Hillary camp whining now about how they are treated? Give me a break. They are happy to call Obama a drug dealer and all that crap. To quote Hillary, this is NFL, be ready. If she can’t handle a reported, wait when the Republicans dump comes soon. Clinton whine and cry foul for any little thing, but are ready to do anything and say anything to get elected. They should retire if they think politics is going to be fun for their family.
Posted by: Mendy | February 8, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Why are the Clintons so sensitive about using their daughter in this campaign?? Could it be there is just ateenie tiny grain of truth in this? I mean, since when have the Clintons had any morals anyway?
Posted by: DuckSoup | February 8, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
ok byron homes, you are right, obama didnt persuade enough folks to vote against the war, that is a dirty shame. but better than being a sheep to follow and vote for the war as hillary did. so, here we have the choice between 2 dems: i choose obama. thanks for not denying hillary comes fully attached with strings.
as for daleri: lives of our american infants? what about lives of iraqi infants and children who are getting surgery and chest tubes (adult size only available) with no anesthesia because of this ‘war to promote freedom and democracy’ ugh. see the documentary bagdad er-it is sick what the repuglicans led us into sick sick sick
as for ivan and pamelaki–well said, thanks for saying it straight
Posted by: lori | February 8, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
If I were Bill, Chris will not have any teeth now, as I will drive my fist into his dirty mouth. Or, better, I will pour a bottle of dish detergent down his throat. Hum, perhaps nothing can clean up this dirtbag.
Posted by: punch | February 8, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
It IS unseemly for Chelsea to be doing this type of stuff.
Isn’t it funny that whenever anyone critisizes the Clintons, they start whining about a “vast… conspiracy?”
This is just an excuse to avoid debates that the Clinton campaign now has figured out (by polling) only help Obama.
Posted by: Doc Savage | February 8, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
I dont support that comment by NBC.
Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea !!! How many times did i call you?
How long will you want to stay in the white house? why not give others their own chance plsssss!!!
Posted by: zoo | February 8, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Are you serious? Clinton needs to lighten up. How is she going to stand up to McCain if she can’t even handle insults from a loser pundit on MSNBC?
This just makes me dislike her more.
Posted by: rfk | February 8, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
Americans a such hypocrites we pride ourselves in FREEDOM OF SPEECH but we get upset when people exercise their right!?!?!?
Posted by: Yoni Iraheta | February 8, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Come on people!! What David Schuster and Chris Matthews did was disgusting!
This is Senator Clinton daughter that we are talking about. We have become so disrespectful and hateful that degrogatory remarks about someone child is okay. I think not. The American people need to boycott MSNBC and all other network for their sexsism remarks.
MSNBC Political Analyst is so sexist. They are not fair to Senator Clinton. They do not talk about anything positive for Senator Clinton. They only make negative reports about Senator Clinton. They do not even make positive comments about her campaign events. They do not put her on the front page unless they have something negative to say. Why are they discriminating against this woman? She has the right to run for the highest position in our country. The American people need to start boycotting MSNBC and any other network that is not being fair.
MSNBC find the need to have an entire article on a campaign event for Senator Obama. Okay, so let’s play fair do a positive article on Senator Clinton Town Hall that over 250k people were able to participate. MSNBC needs to stop endorsing Senator Obama. They do not have the right on how to tell the American people to cast their vote.
You know what they say, what comes around, goes around. By the way Senator Clinton is very classy.
Posted by: Jacqueline Onukwuygha | February 8, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Come on people!! What David Schuster and Chris Matthews did was disgusting!
This is Senator Clinton daughter that we are talking about. We have become so disrespectful and hateful that degrogatory remarks about someone child is okay. I think not. The American people need to boycott MSNBC and all other network for their sexsism remarks.
MSNBC Political Analyst is so sexist. They are not fair to Senator Clinton. They do not talk about anything positive for Senator Clinton. They only make negative reports about Senator Clinton. They do not even make positive comments about her campaign events. They do not put her on the front page unless they have something negative to say. Why are they discriminating against this woman? She has the right to run for the highest position in our country. The American people need to start boycotting MSNBC and any other network that is not being fair.
MSNBC find the need to have an entire article on a campaign event for Senator Obama. Okay, so let’s play fair do a positive article on Senator Clinton Town Hall that over 250k people were able to participate. MSNBC needs to stop endorsing Senator Obama. They do not have the right on how to tell the American people to cast their vote.
You know what they say, what comes around, goes around. By the way Senator Clinton is very classy.
Posted by: Jacqueline Onukwuygha | February 8, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
No thing wrong with David. Chelsea is no thing but has name of Clinton. US is democracy not monarchy. There are full of mean & nasty people in Hillary Clinton campaign team, we need media as our ears and eyes. MSNBC thanks for great job your guys did!!!!
Posted by: brightofeyes | February 8, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
WTF! Americans a such hypocrites we pride ourselves in FREEDOM OF SPEECH but we get upset when people exercise their right!?!?!?
Posted by: Doomsday | February 8, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
I think “hardball” way too much. I have stopped watching MSNBC and will go watch CNN. These comments are undefensible and reprehensible.
Posted by: John Prescot | February 8, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
Obama says that presidential power should not be constrained by Congress as I heard it last night during a hearing about CIA on C-Span. He does not have the faintest idea about American Constitution. So, according to Obama’s view about presidential power, Bush could go to invade Iraq with or without Congressal approval. So what is he jabbering about the congressal vote anyway? According to his belief, Bush should not have been constrained by Congress and could do whatever he wanted as president. What a hypocrite!
Posted by: keeneared | February 8, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
rfk- you hit the nail on the head. clinton will be shredded like chicken by mccain and we the dems will be left with the sick stomach as the last 2 elections left us with. wake up people, hillary can not be mccain. obama probably not either, but better to try with obama and the new voter turn out. lets get real. she’s a nice lady and smart. she just cant win this one, and if she does it will be more of the same old same old. help!!!! is anyone hearing this message???? gotta sign off i guess, i am getting too desperate and sad about this whole deal. we had 4 yrs to come up with a winner- look what it comes to.
Posted by: lori | February 8, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
who is classy? do you usually read the analysis of the elections?
to be sincere, we are all sick not to see beyond our eyes!
we have seen a clear leader in words in deeds and in thoughts.
we have seen the recent poll showing that only him can beat mccain and we r still wasting our time.
I guess republicans will be back again if we are not careful.
lets remember that iran will be next! and we will enter into another recession.
pls lets see beyond the horizon for the sake of our younger generations!
Posted by: zoo | February 8, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
It is simple. The media does need to be resposible for their comments, and what they state on TV. The comments were not professional, and were based on nothing of truth. Others also need to stop the Bill CLinto comments. Hillary is not Bill. Here morals were not her morals. She had to deal with it as well, and make a big decision. Making comments that she has now morals because of Bill Clinton is worse then the NBC comments which were in poor taste. However it is clear the Clinton campaign is dealing with these comments from the Obama side and follwers alot more. I myself find it a shame. I do recommend people look at the history of those they support. I was an Obama supporter untill I looked back at video comments, and actions in his past. The pattern is obvious.
Posted by: ScottNJ | February 8, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
If someone called your daughter a pimp, might you not be just a little upset too? And every adult child of every Preidential candidate does the same thing. Goodness, people, I’m not voting for Hillary either, but I don’t think she is evil for getting up in the morning.
Posted by: jock59801 | February 8, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Freedom of speech is probably doesn’t matters anymore clinton camp tripping about statement made by MSNBC anchor on TV broadcast insane. Obama should rather jump inside the river or hang himself about all the horrible comments they “CLINTONS” made about him then cause they’re mad about “PIMP OUT” statement now.
Posted by: Abdul Olufowobi | February 8, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
I TOTALLY agree with the statement below:
“Why is everything always seen as a Clinton trick? The sexism on MSNBC and the favorite son bias towards Obama have been glaring. I used to be a big MSNBC watcher and I am (choking while I say this) finding that FOX news shows more balance. I will vote for Hillary and have turned the channel because they do nothing but beat up on her. Where is journalism? Take this issue for the issue, Shuster messed up.”
I’m sick to death of MSNBC and Chris Matthews.
Posted by: amsgurl1966 | February 8, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
Just don’t forget that we will have to face the American Infant Infantry in the afterlife.
So vote accordingly. Do not support neither Hillary nor Obama because the American Infant Infantry will be there waiting for us when we get there.
Posted by: Daleri | February 8, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
This sounds like a mysoginous remark. Would he have said the same thing if Chelsea was a boy and not a girl? Racism seems to be less of a problem than gender. That’s why Hillary is always attacked by the media. Talents can be black but not female ?
Posted by: Jane | February 8, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
As Americans we all have taken liberties with lanquage we once would have considered inappropriate. I have not been a democrat in 30 years, party affiliation has nothing to do with this. If you talk about my daughter who at 30 and grown, ‘them would be fighting words, fella’
Posted by: MomsNana | February 8, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
bob- what is up? the race is close, who cares who says they are the underdog. maybe he feels like the underdog. what is the problem. what causes you to try to start something over nothing. i don’t get all this stuff. why are people so freaked out about the pimped out thing, it is slang, that is all it was used as. and the ones who are trying to make it more than that are instigating sympathy attention or instigating media hype for the ratings. ugh
Posted by: lori | February 8, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
I seen the broadcast…It was mean and rotten..Shuster even argued with the guest over it….I thought my husband was going to knock is face in via the t.v. set…I NEVER HEARD ANYONE SAY MITT’S BOYS WERE BEING PIMPED FOR DOING THE SAME THING….MSNBC is clearly unbalanced…so is cnn….I wasn’t a Hillary supporter…I am now…I have girls and if anyone dared say that about mine….well I would be in jail….Imus got fired for his commets, and he is a shock jock, and was trying to be funny….and we agreed with msnbc that he should have been fired the commets Imus made were wrong…so were the commets that Shuster made,…I don’t care who’s side you are on….wrong is wrong….
Posted by: fedup1940 | February 8, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
she is in an uproar when it is her daughter. she did not complain when one of her supports bob johnson of black entertainment television uses music videos to depict and make tons of money of the pimp lifestyle. i have not seen NOW on the frontline to get the pimp lifestyle and negative images off of BET. don’t rappers have freedom of speech that is what they claim but i guess a reporter cannot try to hip. you go girl and protect the name of your daughter. too bad u could not do that for women in general. hillary is such a hypocrite!!!
Posted by: greenlee2 | February 8, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
MSNBC went after a child. Republican or Democratic. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
Although I listen to, watch and read all points of view, MSNBC went over the top a long time ago. Just not worth my time any more. MSNBC management encourages the behavior of people without journalistic integrity or it wouldn’t be happening. Instead of continuing to apologize, why don’t they fire one of them to show that they’re really serious?
Posted by: Joan | February 8, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
The OBAMA network, the Huffington Post and Daily Kos are going to kill Obama’s chances. Does anyone remember the Daily Kos running the Ned Lamont against campaign in Conn.? Now, there was a real success. Keep it up men, it just pushes more voters toward Hillary. We can’t wait for Obama to show up in Texas. We ask questions and want solid answers. There is no there there.
Posted by: Celeste Guerrerp | February 8, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Celeste Guerrerp,
we are coming to texas with a momentum like a category 10 storm just as we did in california(category 4 maria, michelle, opra and calorine)
beware of how we will sweep texas
Posted by: bei | February 8, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
msnbc David Shuster should not be suspended “he should be fired without a serverance pay.” Once, again, is a newscaster “expressing his own politicial views in his commentary.” Using the word “pimping” indicates to your viewers his political views. It is inappropriate and unprofessional. I will not ever watch a show or commentary from him again. He has very poor judgment and I doubt his analysis since he has expressed “his views with using such stupid statements.” Firing his will uphold MSNBC’s reputation.
Posted by: JWS | February 8, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
this is what happens when you put your family in the public spotlight. They put Chelsea out there. They knew it would not all be sunshine and rainbows.
Posted by: Louis | February 8, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
I think it is hypocritical of the Clinton’s to put Chelsea out there if she can’t take the heat….also, what about all that Bill has falsely said/implied about Hillary’s opponents? Is that fair?????????? I might have voted for Hillary in the big election, but this is making me rethink my position ….
Posted by: C | February 8, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
when nobody is endorsing her, what do you expect her to do?
what a poor hillary!
she better learn romneys lesson and withdraw now
Posted by: jay | February 8, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
WHY IS IT THAT HILLARY IS BOMBARDED BY
NEGATIVE PRESS? DO WE LIVE IN A NATION
WHERE MEN ARE STILL THREATENED BY STRONG AND BRILLANT WOMEN?
Posted by: jayme | February 8, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Let cooler heads prevail here. Chelsea is the only person in the Clinton camp who can relate to the groundswell of young voters. The Clintons enlisted her help to add a familiar young face to the Clinton Campaign. What NBC said about “pimping her out” was bad form.
Another idea comes to mind though: Why is it that there always seems to be a “Clinton is victimized” or “Hillary is crying” or some other “Drama” story that erupts around the Clintons right before a primary or caucus? Is trauma and drama the only things that bring out Clinton supporters? I mean if you lay out a timeline, you have Hillary breaking down prior to New Hampshire. The problem with the casino voters caucusing at work and the lawsuit that the Clintons did or did not have any control over. Now, right before Washington and Louisiana, Chelsea is a victim of that Right Wing Monster, NBC. At this rate, if she gets the nomination, Bill Clinton going to have to get beat down by Karl Rove before the General election to top this drama train.
Posted by: Russell | February 8, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
ron – when you say hillary has experience, to what are you referring?
Posted by: vtkajo | February 8, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Now I finally understand why Obama, the anti-war saint, voted to confirm Rice, the liar, WMD cryer, and mushroom cloud Cassandra, to be the Secretary of State. Since in Obama’s view, presidential power cannot and should not be constrained by Congress, Bush has the right to appoint anyone and do anything he wants. what is Obama cussing all who have voted for the war since Bush cannot be constrained by the Congress anyway. Jabbering hypocrite!
Posted by: don'tfoolme | February 8, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
I’m an Obama supporter. I’ve supported him more than I have ever supported any candidate in any election. I can’t stand Hillary, I’m not voting for her in the general if its her against Johnny Mac, but I don’t think anybody needs to be calling out her daughter. As far as I can tell Chelsea is an intelligent young women who supports her parents and their ideals. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, or with the Clinton campaign having her speak on her Mom’s behalf.
Posted by: Brian | February 8, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
vtkajo: I dare you to go to biography.com and look up both barrak obama and hillary clinton and report back here which has more experience.
Anybody else want the facts? Look that up, and also look up the “United States Senators” website and see how many times barrack obama nad hillary clinton were IN ATTENDANCE for votes that their constituents voted them into office to do. And then compare them. Those facts speak for themselves.
Posted by: rhonda | February 8, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Was this the same reason why this anti-war-saint voted Three times and hundreds of Billions to continue the bloody war which he is so famously opposed? “Presidential power should not be constrained by Congress” according to Senator Obama. When I heard this on C-span during the hearing on CIA, a chill ran down my spine. I have never heard anyone claim this kind of presidential power before, not even Bush and Nixon. According to Obama, American president is a King whose power cannot be constrained. No wonder this guy is pulling out all the punches like Chris, who will not do anything to become a king?
Posted by: don'tfoolme | February 8, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
They say Obama is poetic. His words are empty
Quote Maya Angelou:
• A bird doesn’t sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a song.
Obama has no answers
Posted by: Linda | February 8, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Sounds like a pretty typical GOP remark about the Clintons.
Posted by: Jordan | February 8, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
I think Shuster is an idiot! He never has anything clever to say. Obama should be paying the “men” over at MSNBC for the free advertising dribble they put out on a daily basis. It’s disgusting.
Posted by: hanna | February 8, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
Jacqueline- i guess u have read and researched your candidate regarding health care, policies for american families etc. please answer these questions for me. if hillary is going to transform our current health care system, why are some of her biggest lobbyists related to the medical industry? how will she be able to transform the system that backs her financially? also, have u read miriam wright edelman’s from the children’s defense fund comments about the clinton policies and american families. hillary is always talking blah blah, blah about her work with the children’s defense fund. it seems that edelman does not have the same fond statements about hill and bill’s policies. also, several economists mentioned that freezing the morgateges would be disastrous. does this futher show her great decision making abilitities? can you explain to me how u know that clinton did not start the race baiting? isn’t 916 a cali area code and he started the race baiting in sc?
Posted by: greenlee2 | February 8, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
I was really angry to hear all the complaints from Obama that the “Iraqi war goes on and on and on.” Geesewheeze, is he stupid ro super-con?Without his thres Yes votes to waste another Hundreds of Billions after the initial invasion, the war would have been stopped several years ago. Hillary was wrong in the beginning but she has the sense to correct her mistakes by voting NO to three more fundings of the war. Why the hell should Obama complain about his own handiwork. I bet he thinks we ordinary Americans can’t figure out “no money, no war” or perhaps we are too uninformed to know what he has done. Or is this unconstrained presidential power thing again that made him vote against his “conscience” and the will of American people?
Posted by: don'tfoolme | February 8, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
I applaud Ms Jacqueline’s detailed comment. MSNBC should be shunned totally by the viewers. It is already has the lowest ranking. May be Obama’s money is the one which is giving more attraction to these media bias.
I don’t know how an ultra liberal like Obama can bring the Republican’s to his side. Republican’s cannot be fooled by empty rhetorics. Let Obama tell with which policy he can unite everyone.
All the netwroks told Obama will win California and whoever wins CA will be the nominee before election. Now no one seem to bother to notice that.
I am from the largest democracy (India. We never saw this kind of media bias or media insult to a anyone.
Posted by: Laxman | February 8, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Walt Whitman who wrote:Oh, Captain, my Captain” about Lincoln was poetic. But he ended up in a mental hospital.
Poets by temperament cannot govern as they lack objectivity and rationality.
Posted by: don'tfoolme | February 8, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
hey jac, i am still waiting for answers to my questions about hillary’s platform. since u are so sure about hill and bill, please explain their platform with actual facts from a reliable source other than hillary.com.
Posted by: greenlee2 | February 8, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
This unfortunate choice of words by Shuster is mild compared to the rhetoric thrown out daily on the Fox/Clear Channel syndicated radio programs by Limbaugh, Hannity and Levin, lambasting both Hillary and Barack. By the way, they air on KTRH radio in Houston, and I found it interesting today that their question of the day on the KTRH website was, “Would you vote for McCain for President?” As of a few minutes ago it was 29.02% yes, 49.07% no, and 21% undecided. But, back to Hillary. I’m beginning to wonder if the 27 year old Chelsea has a mind of her own. She was muzzled until Barack swept Iowa, then she was unleashed on younger voters. Now that an untoward remark (none the less pretty factual but perhaps a bad choice of words), about this 27 year old woman, and Hillary is the one doing all the talking.
Posted by: GC | February 8, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Now, just think if that was said against Obama’s relative. WOW!!!!!!!!!
Fortuately for Shuster, it was said on the Obama television network against his rival.
Posted by: TT | February 8, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
I am not sure where to post this since MSNBC has not put up a blog on the utterly disgusting and blatently biased remark made by David Shuster about Chelsea Clinton being “pimped out.” I have endured Chris Matthews loud mouth saying that Hillary was only a candidate because her husband had an affair and that the people felt sorry for her, I have listen as they continuosly ignored the downfalls of Obama and highlighted everything Hillary did or said indlucing her inability to sing, but htis is the last straw and while I am pretty sure the network does not care I want someone…anyone to know that you have lost a VERY loyal listener to your network and reader of your webiste. This is over the top and I finally believe all those who have screamed about your biased reporting during this election…I give up…I agree you are disgusting and I will no longer view your telecasts. I can only hope that many more follow…Obama and Clinton supporters alike. I also hope that this energizes Clinton supporters in away that nothing else has…this kind of nonsense must stop.
Hillary 08
Posted by: kat | February 8, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
There is much in this campaign that is vile.
We’ve covered racism, sexism, anti-Mormon religious discrimination…
Do you REALLY believe Mr. Shuster just casually used this term?
I mean do you think he hangs out on the weekends telling his friends, “yo, pimp my ride”?
This kind of BS needs to be stopped.
That was a deliberate remark because honestly EVERY campaign does the same thing if the kids are old enough. Only Rudy’s kids refused.
Posted by: princessavenger | February 8, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
This is not about a simple comment made against a campaign. This is a culmination of months of gender bias and down right sexual harassement by the media toward Hilary Clinton and now her daughter. I dont understand how women in this country who have fought valiantly over the past decades for equal rights can sit by and condone this type of male cheuvenistic behavior. Women and fair minded men all across this country should be outraged and demand nbc and other media outlets be held accountable for their bias and slander. I am sick of the off color remarks, the body part jokes, the pointing out of her laugh, wrinkles, dress etc. I dont care about that crap and want the media to start reporting the facts and not biased sexist garbage. Stop before I boycott nbc as well. Maybe we should do just that. Boycott nbc, foxx and whoever else is gender biased until the prejudice is spotlighted for what it truely is. Down right male egotistical fear and hate mongering.
Posted by: robert kellogg | February 8, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Hmmm.
Another invented controversy so nobody has to waste their time discussing the actual issues that matter. Too bad this always has to happen the day before an election.
Who’s really getting pimped here, anyway?
Posted by: MAtt | February 8, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
let’s Vote for HILLARY! and shut up the mouth of the anti-clinton press(not all), the republicans and the self centric blacks.
Let’s get to work and Vote for Hillary in our respective states and then during the Presidential elections!
Posted by: RUSHMORE | February 8, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
I work & live in Hollywood. If Chelsea is being pimped out than Barack Obama is the biggest pimp of all. He literally spent the past year in California ONLY focusing on the celebrities. The campaign would throw numerous events with Jessica Biel, Ben Affleck, JJ Abrams, Tyson Beckford, Will Smith, Scarlett Johannson and Universal head Ron Meyer. And I, who am somewhat a celebrity, after the 2nd time going to one of these events and just seeing how he only cared about talking to the celebrities and was enjoying their flattery, I literally was very disgusted. He even called a few friends of mine personally, who are either successful studio execs, lawyers or actors to try to get them to attend his events. Mind you, none of his events were directed to the “common” people, unless they could fork out at least $500. So to call “Chelsea a pimp” is a huge overstatement. Chelsea grew up in the White House and she traveled the world with her mother, meeting world leaders, including Nelson Mandela. . . she knows her mother would make a GREAT PRESIDENT and why shouldn’t she go on the phones and call people? It’s only natural to do that for your mother.
Posted by: Nessuno | February 8, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Hillary, I do hope you do not debate Obama on NBC. It is time to defend yourself against these outrages attacks.
Bill Clinton, I hope you go back on the campaign trail and defend your wife vigorously. Before you became the President of this great country, you were first and foremost the husband of Hillary. That has not changed. You served your country well for 8 years. Now it is time to serve your wife first and the country last.
Posted by: I Am Me | February 8, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
have u noticed that six of the stories on the politics site are proclinton stories? this is the most of the unbiased media networks.
Posted by: greenlee2 | February 8, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
I stopped watching MSNBC when their coverage became so biased. I did not know about the Shuster comments until I saw it on another network. For months I sent them e-mails hoping they would be fair in their comments. In their zeal to have Obama elected as the first “affirmative action president” they have skewed their coverage in an unfair, nasty and unprofessional way. I am not a Clinton supporter, but I liked watching MSNBC until they turned unfairly negative. I want a network to present it’s coverage in a fair way so that I can decide they can be trusted to give me the information required to make an informed decision. MSNBC will lose any fair minded viewer if they continue this insane coverage.
Posted by: Joe | February 8, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Well, at least Obama can keep pace with his running mate Opra. She has the new OWN Opra Winfry network and Obama now has Shuster and MSNBC. Quite a pair we have there, ey! Won’t even need the Rainbow people with all there tax free money.
Posted by: aks | February 8, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Joe, I feel exactly as you. Not really a Clinton supportor, but had to stop watching MSNBC because of the bias. Start with Mika and Joe and ends with Keith. You can’t tell me that it doesn’t come from the top down.
Posted by: YEP | February 8, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
It is shame on MSNBC, Chris and Keith are passing dirty comments on Clintons. The network does not have professional standards and ethical values. In the name of anti-Fox news tirade, MSNBC is acting like election machinery of Obama. The TV channel should fire Chris and Keith to keep its name in the media.
It is worst than Fox News channel in spreading hatred, rumors and lies. It is time to tell its business partners to stop the trash in the media or lose the business
Posted by: Mat Mike | February 8, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
The Clintons over the years have sadled themselves with scandals upon scandals. Lies upon lies. They have absolutely no qualms of conscience in distorting good qualities in oher competitors. Obama always prefaces his criticism by recognizing her strengths as a legislator. There is never a reciprocal gesture from Hillary. The Clintons want America and the world to believe that Obama is all talk. Go serve as a comunity organizer in the streets of Chicago’s poor neighborhoods. All we are going to get from the Clintons is POLARIZATION – gender against gender, white against black, Asians and Latinos against Blacks. The Clintons are only interested in themselves. Bill Clinton destroyed and demoralized the Democratic party and caused his able Vice President to lose an election against Bush. The Democrats should use this opportunity to reject the Clintons once and for all. Can you imagine being a Vice President in Hillary Clintons White House. Americans wake up! How can you allow the Clintons back in the White House? Bush-Clinton-Bush and Clinton again? Is this a third world country? It is time to turn the page. America needs a new generation to lead the world in peace and progress. It is time for the great America to be restored to its respectful leadership of the world. Send the Clintons into retirement. Enough is Enough. I do not agree with the Republicans that having sex with an intern in the oval office is “high crimes and impeachable” but the Clintons need to stay out of the White House. America should not accept the moral degradation that the Presidency was subjected to by Clinton. There is always lack of candor. Truth is a disvalue to the Clintons. It is time for Obama and his generation to lead the United States and the world. PEACE will prevail in the world and there will not be Wars of Choice and bullying of other nations. Enough of the Clintons. Time for them to retire!
Posted by: Jideofo22 | February 8, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
I pray that the Clintons stand their ground and boycott MSNBC! It’s about time people stop making so much money and fame (i.e. Obama Campaign and MSNBC) based on bashing the Clintons.
Posted by: Ben | February 8, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Jideofo22 you could be right. But it is not up to MSNBC to give 24-7 support to a candidate. Let the people decide. Everyone has a bias. No doubt about it. But even dumb people like me can see what MSNBC is doing. We already have FOX for the conservative republicans. Do we really need another for the left wing democratic party.
Posted by: OK | February 8, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
David “Obama Boy” Shuster is a joke. He and Chris Matthews are intimidated by strong women. Chrissy practically melted in his chair when Hillary confronted him at the debate.
Posted by: Peanut | February 8, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
I am the Queen of Pimps, and you should see my Stable.
Frankly, I think the Clintons are turning a comment made about how they are using their daughter to harvest superdelegates into some sexist thing, so they can hopefully garner the WHATH of the feminists out there and they’ll send her money for her campaign.
In effect, pimping out MSNBC’s Schuster.
Just a thought.
Frankly, as long as what Chelsea is doing is legal, I don’t care. But people have to remember that Olbermann et al are NOT news reporters, but commentators. There’s a BIG difference. You go to the BBC for news, and MSNBC for amusement.
Posted by: Queen of Pimps | February 8, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
The Clinton campaign is furious they were found out.
…but the “pimping” remark was a little bit much even if it was referring to Hillary.
…she might sell us (the U.S.) down the drain but that is a different story like selling or giving away secrets to China or something.
Posted by: Daleri | February 8, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
MSNBC should stop PIMPING for the Obama campaign. Those guys are rabid Hillary haters out there. It is a culture that permeates all of NBC news from Russert on down to animals like Matthews and vermins like Schuster. If there are any pimps out there this election cycle, common folk need look no further than NBC. What a disgrace! Even Fox News is better than them.
Posted by: SAMI | February 8, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
Another example of Obama bias. Did you see how they covered the Democratic Florida election. While ever other network had both a running ticker for Dems and Rep, MSNBC didn’t keep the Democratic one up for their audience because they knew that Florida was going to Clinton. All the networks knew it wasn’t going to count, all but MSNBC kept us informed. And why do all other news networks report different delegate totals than MSNBC (in favor of Obama), I might add. Actually, I like Obama, so it is not an attack on him. This is on MSNBC.
Posted by: WHAT | February 8, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Dear Hill,
If you can’t stand the heat get the heck out of the kitchen. Could it be that you are buying time before you go one on one with Mr. O? It is stupid to believe that a woman who is responsible for over a thousand American soldiers deaths in Iraq for no apparent reason, and who has yet to apologize to the American public or world for that matter, because of her worthless pride, could hardly be offended by such a comment. Stop letting your campaign manager and husband speak for you and debate. In the mean time, having others display your emotions doesn’t hide your own ruthless, power hungry, vindictive personality.
In closing, you have no experience outside of New York. In case you and other American’s forgot, it is true what Chris Matthews said, you were just a sidekick and not a leader. Also, if you don’t want the press talking about your child, keep her off the campaign trail.
sincerely,
A man who wants a woman president that is there because she is better than the others. Not because it was convenient for a failing party.
Come on DEMS STAND UP>>> WE NEED CHANGE
Posted by: Matt | February 8, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
I think all politicians regularly pimp out their family members and we should be allowed to say so. I’m a little surprised by the outrage from the Clintons on this one.
Posted by: Robin | February 8, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Matt, we all hear the preaching by Obama for change, but he has yet to tell us what his change involves. I go to church on Sunday for a sermon, and can listen to Martin King for inspiration. Facts that are going to change America is what we are looking for from Obama. Preaching “Our Time Has Come” really means nothing. Why isn’t MSNBC looking for anything besides the word “CHANGE”. What does that mean?
Posted by: Change | February 8, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
The misogenic males in MSNBC are unable to keep even the appearance of fairnes. Romney “pimps up” his sons, Kusinich his wife, Obama his two daughters, McCain his wife and mother. But the only one that is accused of doing so is Hillary. Why, what is the difference? Of course, she is the woman!. The others are males, they can use their daughters, wifes, mothers. That’s OK.
As for Chris Mathews, that was REVOLTING. How much of what Bill Clinton achieved he did thanks to having an intelligent, supportive wife beside him? Would he have been who he is without her?. That doubt doesn’t cross Mathews brain!. Well, he probably would not have got anywhere by himself. He is just a good talker (as Obama). She is the one with the brain.
Posted by: Pepo | February 8, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
People commenting here are missing an important fact: Chelsea was not called a pimp – Hillary was.
It is Hilary who is doing the pimping, not Chelsea. Chelsea is just doing what any good daughter would do who believes in her mother – helping her.
It is Hilary who is the pimp here. No one is disparaging Chelsea – that is just “spin” so people will forget that it is Hilary who is being called to task, not Chelsea.
Posted by: Patricia | February 8, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
Fire them, raise a stink, be fair press and make a stink. Bill just compard a good campaign of Jessie Jackson’s to Obama’s and when I heard it I was surprised that anyone made it a racial thing. A talk show host was fire, a sports editor was fired so fire
Chris and that other guy. The use of trash language is improper anyway. Clean it up guys.
Posted by: Hank Irelan | February 8, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Despite of what NBC said that they are sorry, this type of abusive behaviors cannot be tolerated anywhere in this country. By boycotting NBC like not watching daily as well not watch the debates if there is any in the future will send a very effective message to the management of NBC. Otherwise, few weeks down the road like after Chris Matthew’s “apology”, another individual will be mouthing away again. They will never learn. The house should be cleaned!
Rachel Meadow, an anlyst from MSNBC, is another one that fumes with hatred for Hillary. She was very furious that Hillary came out ahead on Tuesday and looked almost like she was going to puke on air. Even Pat Buchan said well “she won the big states”!
It is time we go back to fair journalism and stick with the issues and facts, not to mouth away their own emotions on TV. You are doing yourself an injustice, NBC, and soil the reputation of American media.
Posted by: JP | February 8, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
have u noticed that all about the clintons network have six proclinton stories right b/f the election-thanks George.
also least obama was honest about his former experimentation with drugs as a youth. however, w/ gw did not want to address it b/c he’s a changed man. billary did not inhaled or thought he inhaled or needed someone to provided him a definition about what is inhaling.
the hillary supportors have not realized that the election is over. the clintons are so divisive that they cannot unite the different groups- wave bye bye — youth vote, independents, and the moderate black voters. u combined that with the repub base – it will be an easy win for the repubs. good night folks!!
Posted by: greenlee2 | February 8, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
greenlee2, I see it this way. Unfortunately, racism is still a big part of our society. I bet dollars to donuts if Obama gets the nomination, there we be a landslide on the republican side toward McCain. You couldn’t believe the polls that MSNBC put up about California with regard to the Mexican and Black segment, and you sure can’t believe the polls regarding Obama and McCain.
Posted by: Consider this! | February 8, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
One reporter for MSNBC making unnecessarily derogatory statements about Chelsea Clinton and other innuendos is one thing. Apologizing for the insults and innuendos is a good thing both for the anchor and MSNBC. However, MSNBC allowing insults and innuendos to continue is another. Such is the case with the person who came out in the “Spin Cycle” on MSNBC afterwards and wrote more derogatory and insulting things about Mrs. Clinton. There was no newsworthy reason for this and both I, myself, and my friends are absolutely appalled. Is MSNBC going to continue this kind of communication to the public? Are they slanting more toward sensationalism and tabloid journalism rather than professional journalism? I really wouldn’t blame Hillary Clinton for staying away from the debate. I certainly would if I or my daughter were treated this way. Hopefully Hillary will go with a station that is more professional and fair to both herself and other candidates. The American people should be making their minds up on objective facts and analysis rather than on what the media’s endorsement or writings of their personal dislikes or likes of candidates are. Professional journalism gives people facts and objective analyses to help them become better informed to make up their own minds. Professional journalism does not try to shape our opinions for us which is what MSNBC appears to be doing. Hopefully they will not keep doing this for their own sakes. People have other sources to turn to for more objective information within a professional context.
Posted by: Meg | February 8, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
My goodness———-with EVERY news media website I check out there is something negative printed about the Clintons.
It is very clear that the Media is biased. Don’t worry Hillary, a lot of voters can see through the hoopla—-this is why you are still standing strong!
Posted by: Rena
Rena, get a clue. If EVERY News Media is posting negative things about the Clintons they can’t ALL be wrong. They are not owned by the same company. The Clintons are lucky they aren’t posting ALL of things they have done in the last 25 years. No I’m not pro Obama, but I do know a deceitful family when I see one.
Posted by: 1bluwolf | February 8, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Totally distasteful. Even the spokesperson for the Obama campaign said that such a comment is deplorable and has no place in the politcal process. I hope that the Clinton campaign boycotts the NBC network, it’s not the 1st time in the past 30 days that their commentators have made distasteful charges against the Clinton women.
The Clinton’s have done a fantastic job raising Chelsea, remember the Bush twins were flipping off camera men and others around and smoking weed and who knows what else. This is something that we would never see Chelsea do, too much of a lady for such trashy acts. I think that it’s wonderful that she’s working in the campaign for her mother, it speaks a great deal of her character and the respect that she has for her mother and realizes that her mother has the best platform for this country.
Posted by: jamey | February 8, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Clinton Tactics Hold No Bounds! I said no family member of someone running for Office should be calling any super Delegates!
Posted by: Demo Rules | February 9, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Actually, after a $65 million investigation, by Kenneth Starr, that was notorious for being THOROUGH, Hillary Clinton is either “clean as a whistle”, or after not prosecuting Mrs Clinton, the Republican Party is too stupid to be re-elected as Dog-catchers (no offense to dog-catchers). Seriously, Starr threatened everyone around the Clintons for years, then, didn’t prove anything except Bill had an “affair”.
Posted by: able | February 9, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
Now I get it. Oprah is on NBC, so that is why MSNBC are always attacking the Clintons, the POWER of Oprah who happens to be for Obama.
Posted by: Elisa | February 9, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
I discover how sexism is still very strong.It can be understood.For instance, my boyfriend has problems with his dean who is a woman. Even as a supporter of Hillary Clinton, at the moment of big crisis with his boss, he projects in Hillary his frustrations and says she reminds him of his woman boss. Of course afterwards he distances himself from his earlier emotion.
I don’t always blame men for that but I think Hillary is courageous because she has to prove she is strong, otherwise she cannot be viewed as presidential. By doing so she has to fight that invisible enemy that is her own gender.If the sexist media is out there to criticize her, they would say she is too manly and then too weepy if she shows tears.
But she sure has qualities, endurance and determination. She announced she gave a loan of 5millions of her money for the campaign, that is to say she is a self-made woman.
Obama gets his money from his friends supporters but some of them like Rezko seem to pose a problem, yet the matter is not clarified. In the mean time Obama suggests she is richer than he, implying she is not transparent. But Obama seems to forget he is about 15 years younger than she and she wrote a book that was worldwide published , she has 15 years of work ahead of him and her husband Bill Clinton also has made money lecturing, involved also in a publication etc… Is Obama going to launch another Starr case to get even with her statement? Don’t tell around that Obama is a nice guy. Wait until he has power, and you find out who he is. At least the Clintons were seen at work. And just don’t forget America had a good record of economy and foreign policy under Bill Clinton government.
Posted by: jane | February 9, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
As a foreign student who regularly watched MSNBC, I can not begin to express my disappointment with the tabloid treatment that was shown to Chelsea Clinton on this station. Something as serious and important as the selection of the next leader of the United States, the candidates, their supporters, and their family should not be discussed in the same manner as some fallen pop star.
Is MSNBC so desperate for ratings that it has to sink to the lowest level of the TV audience? This not only reflects badly on the station; but in the eyes of the rest of the world,makes people wonder about the quality of how Americans select their next President.
Posted by: theory | February 9, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
Thanks God! I avoid watching two propeganda oriented news chanels. It is hard to get real news.
Posted by: vince | February 9, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
This is just repulsive. David Shuster is a smarmy punk. One of those guys you just want to punch in the face. For less than that Imus show was shut down.
Posted by: Anthony | February 9, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am
There they go again playing the gender card again to try and silence people . . . as a woman I find this kind of ‘playing the victim’ manipulativeness absolutely repulsive.
David Shuster’s a bit of a slickster and the comment could have been phrased better, but the point he was making is valid. Chelsea’s a 27-year-old woman who is out campaigning because she’s seeking political gain for her mother. That makes Shuster’s comment valid political speech since Chelsea has chosen to inject herself into the public spotlight for personal gain.
I think the idea behind the ‘pimping’ vernacular was intended to allude to the fact that Chelsea seems uncomfortable in the spotlight and must therefore be acting against her personal preferences. Note that she has only recently started to speak at rallies and doesn’t speak to the press. Granted the language was in poor taste but isn’t it relevant to question whether Hillary is ignoring the comfort level of her own child for personal gain and whether Hillary is seeking to censor free speech?
I think so . . .
Posted by: Sam | February 9, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
The media, are Clintons haters. The thought Americans are stupied. They try to influence election, as they had helped Bush elected as president. Now they are the adoring fans of Obama for his oratorical speeches without substance This media people,the Ophras, the Kennedys, the Kerrys, etc are the very rich contributor of Obama. No wonder Obama has lots of money. They are trying to buy the election.
We Americans wants the real issues that affect the country. Hilary will be the voice of ordinary people like us. She will deliver what she promise on health care, education, economy etc. You should be proud of a President who masters the issues affecting America and works hard doing changes for a better America. May God help us.
Posted by: AE | February 9, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
The people who are continuing to down the Clintons, and accept news anchors degrading them and their childern are disgusting, heartless, and simple idiots. If this where your child that was degraded on national TV for what ever reason or situation political or non-political, I’m very sure you would be the first ones trying to sue MSNBC or any other news station for the news anchors making very insensitive comments made towards you or your child, what sorry gutless, jerks. Nobody, not even my worst enemy needs deserves to be humiliated like that on National TV try and make news ratings. Have this world gotten that cold and insenstive?
And for the Sexist Cable news shows like MSNBC, Fox News, and CNN, all the taking off the air, they are not reporting objective and non-biased news, they are acting people personally and getting away with it this is disgusting, and gutless as well. I will not be watching these stations no time soon until they start cleaning up their act and start reporting non-biased and objective news again, this has really gotten out of hand and way over the top, this needs to stop from this day forward, people in droves are going to start boycotting you, the public refuse to continue to accept crap like this and call it news, these reporters and anchors sholud show some class and leave their personal opinions, views and commentaries at the door.
Chris Matthews should have been fired for the comments he made about the Clintons some weeks ago, this is not free speech when you are given the trust of delivering the news in non-biased and objective way. Since this election Campaign have started, these cable news station have gotten bold in letting their seist and gender biases made know towards the Hillary Campaign, they all but made The Obama campaign a place of holy worship, this not fair, no matter how they feel about the Clinton’s personally, they should leave their biases and personal opinions in check at the door, this pattern continues to happen,because the management of these cable news stations fails to put these people in check, so inmy opinion they are also guilty by association.
I hope the Clinton Campaign boycott’s MSNBC,because this ahs become a ritual and pattern. The men on MSNBC and some other Cable news satations would rather for a black man become President, then a Women, because their behavior is prove’s that they have peoples with gender, exitbit that old glass ceiling mentility was very ignorant in my opinion. I believe if a well popular white man was running for President on the Democratic ticket, these news anchors would not give Obama’s campaign the time of day, because most people who have gender problems most likely have problems with race as well, but Obama so happen to be Black and a male, so they settle for him for the time being, and hope doing the general that a White male Republican beat Obama out, then a Republican Prseident would remain office, the news media is not fooling me ,Oh they are building up Obama right now, he could do no wrong, but just wait until the general election, if Obama is the nominee, thses new anchors will more than likely try and tear him down, to help get the Republican nominee in office.
and popularity nowObama, enjoy your ride now, because if you become the nominee, you will be shift-boated by these biased same news anchors who are currently building you up to win the Democratic nomination as well, you will not escape their venom, but the goal and Objective first is to try and get Hillary out of the way, because she has more experience and know-how than her Democratic opponent, which gives her a better chance of beating the Republican nominee, so in order to try and accomplish this,they try and bend the strong men; a woman in this case, meaning Hillary, and then will be easier to pick off the weaker men, meaning Obama, because he’s only a Jr Senator. How clever and shewd that would be.
Go Hillary Go!! You are our new “Clean up Woman” who has the most experience, know-how, and ability to clean-up Bush’s mess he’s going to leave behind in 2009, including making Obama’s message he so often preaches about on his campaign stump truly a reality, not just brillant talk and pump-up inspiration and emotionalism.
Posted by: Darrel | February 9, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
Obama is the clear chose for Democratic nominee. He was against the War from the start and John McCain doesnt want to talk about the immigration bill he co-sponsor with Obama and campaign/finance reform along with ethic reform. The wright wing conservative is outrage with McCain over these Bills. This give Obama the edge. If Sen. Clinton win it would be a popularity contest with McCain, he would win. The best chose is Obama 08!!!!!!!
Posted by: Will | February 9, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am
TALK ABOUT A DISGRACE……..HILLARY IS!!
Obama has more experience in a legislature than Hillary. And Hillary had no experience as “wife” of the President. Even the NY Times admitted her resume was thin on experience. She grossly exaggerated her experience and credentials.
Hillary’s health care plan will provide medical care for everyone – even the illegal aliens – and if we disagree with it, she promises to garnishee your wages. This is exactly her ill-thought out reasoning that caused the last health insurance debacle.
Yes, Hillary is right. She is not all talk. She did the Rose Law Firm, White Water, Travel Gate, Vincent Foster, …etc. Oh, yes she can – she wasted millions of dollars of tax payers’ money when she tried to pass health care reform when Bill was President. Oh, did I forget to mention that the Congress were occupied by the Dems then? Why failed? – she was too divisive that she couldn’t have Dems to vote for it. Yes, she is not all talks – even as the Clintons were leaving the White House she took funiture from it so that she had to reimburse the cost to a national disgrace
Posted by: Dave Peck | February 9, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
Let this die.
It’s live TV.
A definite poor Choice of words.
But with valid questions behind the poor choice of words:
>She’s 27 – not the curly haired pre-teen of 1992.
>She makes Celeb political calls.
>She stumps with Mom.
>She stumps with Dad.
>But she won’t answer media questions.
>And she’s off limits.
Do we forget what her dad did to a much younger girl (“that woman”)in the media just 10 years ago?
Get over it.
Posted by: Furgo | February 9, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
So… if the Clinton’s are pimping out Chelsey for making these phone calls.. is Barack Hussein pimping out Michelle for opening his shows?
Just think for one second if this comment would’ve been said in regards to Michelle Obama.
No, we are no overreacting. We’re just sick of this flagrant and distateful hatred agains the Clintons.
Posted by: Anthony | February 9, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
I am a US citizen abroad and msnbc is shown on one of my networks. The recent comment is only a long line of bias which US citizens should not tolerate. The comment about Chelsea Clinton simply crosses the line. This after so much analysis which toes the line. E.g., how much of Obama’s surge before supertuesday was exaggerated by MSNBC? MSNBC commissioned a last-minute poll which somewhat accurately reflected the actual CA vote–but MSNBC only mentioned it in passing, choosing instead to focus on a poll which suggested that Obama would win CA–a poll which all stats experts and MSNBC’s own “expert” pundits dismissed due to obvious flaws. MSNBC largely ignored their own more sound poll in favor of a badly done poll more befitting MSNBC rhetoric. This is simply bad journalism. (BTW, I am not a HRC supporter nor am I a registered democrat: simply someone who has greater access to nonUS media and thus realizes how bad US journalism has become.) Why is the US media ignoring an obvious story about itself: why not do an analysis of whether the US media is HRC bashing?
Posted by: Expat Voter | February 9, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
All I seen from Oprah show she polorized for many years and no this is the first year I ever seen her have hispanic’s so if anyone polarized it was ABC Oprah for many many years.
Posted by: Gloria | February 9, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
check it our your self on achrives it no lie she polorized on ABC our counrty for many many years how dare they blame the Clintons
Posted by: Gloria | February 9, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
Darrel, slander has to be a false fact and it can’t be political speech which is protected by the First Amendment. Hence, the Clinton’s don’t have any grounds for a suit against MSNBC.
And I’m only a couple of years older than Chelsea, and can’t imagine a poor choice of words by a 3rd ranked news channel phasing me whatsoever. And even if it did, I wouldn’t hesitate to call him up and set him straight.
I would think if strong women were not seeking to gain a political edge, they too would be denouncing the infantalization of Chelsea as some victimized child rather than the grown woman with political sway to attract superdelegates and influence voters. It’s repulsive to see women play the ‘victim’ card for the sake of political gain imo
Posted by: Sam | February 9, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
Dave Peck ,get of this already, the Republicans have spent millions on this old dog that can’t bite. Wait until you see the dirt they will find on Obama.
Posted by: Charles | February 9, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
Has Everyone forgotten the pictures of this Sweet little Angelica little brat flipping the public off during her Daddy’d presidency when she was getting in and out of her limo ?????
Give Me a Break. It may or may not have been “pimping” but they made some kind of deal with this little brat to make her “Mama’s Girl” all of the sudden and having “her” make the calls……..yeah right!
What do you call it ????
Goes to show you, nothing is sacred to the Clintons and they will try anything and everything!!
Posted by: Dave Peck | February 9, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
The Obama girl looks like trash on the video check it out your self now that video was pimped out for Obama to get his trashy voters
Posted by: Gloria | February 9, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
copy of email i sent to msnbc today i think we should all boycott them, write to them, etc. The media bias is bad enough, but attacking children is beyond the pale. And if the same phrase had been used regarding Michelle Obama, Shuster would’ve been fired in a second and the media would’ve spent a week talking about how bad it was – what i wrote to msnbc – It is atrocious enough that your crew of misogynistic “reporters” continue their biased, hateful commentary, clearly attempting to steer the democratic nomination to Barack Obama.. Then when they are called on a particularly egregious statement, that the Clintons are “pimping out” Chelsea, you “temporarily” suspend one of them and have him issue an apology. Then you post an article with a headline highlighting that Clinton is angered by the atrocious comment rather than saying up front that the comment was atrocious. Similarly, you took no disciplinary action when Matthews expressed his hateful opinion that Senator Clinton’s career is a result of President Clinton’s infidelity. I shall certainly boycott your network and hope that many others do the same. If you have any respect for journalism, you will fire virtually every commentator you employ and start again, with an apology to the viewers. .
Posted by: so saddened | February 9, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am
Charles, you are so stupid, I bet you voted for Bush!
If you don’t like what I write, don’t read it.
We need to restore “Honor” and Integrity to the Whitehouse……..
Neither A Bush nor A Clinton Qualifies!
Get Over it!
Posted by: Dave Peck | February 9, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
so saddened et al – if you don’t like MSNBC, don’t watch. There are plenty of other news networks that champion the Clintons every chance they get . . .
Posted by: Sam | February 9, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am
Dave Peck , never voted Republican in my life . Never will, H. Clinton will be President without you’re vote.
Posted by: Charles | February 9, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am
If God abandons the United States, and America is unlucky enough to nominate Clinton, please do not bring cigars to the campaign celebration. Illustrious Billary politics contributed to a forfeit of one business, and I cannot afford the closure of another Company established since 1902. Well what the “watergate” do I know anyway. You need further delegates Hillary “Cry Us a River”. I am confident tears and unfaithful Billary will disarm the world. Slick Willy has lost his place of alleged “Black Belt of Verbal Combat.
Posted by: Bill Sandere | February 9, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
I recall reading an article back in the fall of ’06, David Shuster had taunted the Ohio State Buckeye community by saying that most of the Buckeye faithfuls would someday work for Wolverines and he also mentioned that most Buckeye faithfuls lacked civility (what’s with that?). He bet that his alma mata Michigan would win the football game or else he would eat his words. Unfortunately, Michigan lost the game and Shuster wrote; “I am a man of my words, so today I ate them. It was not a pleasant experience. But, losing to OSU wasn’t exactly pleasant either. None the less, I salute the Buckeye faithful on your victory.” The point is, he actually ate those printed words and he even posted a video of himself eating those words, like it were ham & cheese. I think he should do the same about those “Pimped Out” comments he made about Chelsea and eat his own words. Here’s a guy that says Buckeyes lack civility, well… I don’t pretend to know what kind of civilized people they graduate from the University of Michigan, I would hope they graduate people that think before they speak. It’s a very easy concept to understand.
Sounds to me like Shuster is the one lacking civility here and in need of some sensitivity training.
Posted by: Barbary Coast | February 9, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
MSNBC can go to Africa since they don’t like mexican or illigels they can take the media to Africa and make movies for use to see over there.
Posted by: Gloria | February 9, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am
Mitt Romney’s boys campaigned for him – all 5 of them. I never heard the media say he was “pimping” them out. I had a great deal of respect for those boys even though I didn’t particularly like Mitt Romney. I watched Chelsea grow up and have a son that is only a couple of years younger.
I respect the Clintons as they do seem to have done a great job with Chelsea. If you remember at one point she went to public school in D.C. as Bill Clinton said he and his family were no better than anyone else. I can’t imagine too many Presidents taking that position.
When it comes to the Clintons, we diss their unity and criticize them for sticking together and being a family. A daughter is not supposed to stand up for and support her parents and a husband is not supposed to stand up for his wife – at least not the Clintons.
I would be proud to say Chelsea was my daughter. Maybe we can all at least agree that the Clintons did a great job in raising her.
Posted by: Susan | February 9, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
I don’t know what to think about this. I have never heard of such an expression and so would never have used it myself. So I am just feeling lucky that I do not know so much English to get myself into troubles like this.
Posted by: 212s.com | February 9, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
I even thought Brain Willaims was the hottest person on MSNBC, I wonder if they pimp him. He was the only person worth watching on MSNBC that has brains I thought.
Posted by: Gloria | February 9, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am
Gloria, Mess-nbc can’t stop the Mexicans from putting the H. Clinton as President of the U.S.A, viva la raza!
Posted by: Miguel | February 9, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
Susan, I think the difference between the Romney boys and Chelsea are that the Romney boys do interviews and speak freely with the press.
Chelsea even turned down a ‘kid’ reporter who asked her whether she thought her Dad would make a good First Gentleman – I personally didn’t think it was in very good taste to blow off a child given that she had injected herself into the spotlight for her mother’s political gain . . .
Posted by: Sam | February 9, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am
It’s Like The Media Has Nothing and I Mean Nothing Positive To Say About Americans There Always Putting Someone Down In The News Everyday and frankly im tired of it!!!
Posted by: armando | February 9, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am
yeh, I bought some the other day, of course I like the old bread. I’m going back to the store.
Posted by: ? | February 9, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
There are things that happened in that Whitehouse that were so despicable that no one should have forgotten. The media you think is biased is just informed. They have it all in front of them. It was all there all documented. How Hillary expected an office in the West Wing of the White House and had a tantrum when she did not get Al Gore’s office. How Hillary behaved toward the Troopers. That was called Troopergate. Then the firings of the travel office, Hillary did that alone. She put in her friends from Arkansas. That was called Travelgate. The media and we have access through the internet to it all. It happened. People don’t want to think that the stories are no more than Hillary’s words “a vast right wing conspiracy”. Tell Vince Foster. Tell Juanita Broderick. During the debate Wolf Blitzer tried to remind everyone the debacle of Hillary’s Health Care. (Behind closed doors.) If Hillary gets the nomination, then the Democrats lose the White House. There are too many who remember and she is too polarizing to win Republican votes. Obama on the other hand takes all.
There are only a few oportunities like this in a lifetime. I have a feeling that this man is more than a candidate. He is more than a movement. He is something of history. Vote your gut.
Posted by: Jeanie | February 9, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
I do understand she turned down a kid reporter for Scholastic News. First, I think it is because she feels if she makes an exception, then it’s the old give it an inch take a mile philosophy with the media.
I agree with previous posters that, she is part of a former first family. I think she feels strongly about her mother and genuinely believes she is the best person for the job.
She doesn’t seem forceful at all. Even the women on the View said she is quiet and reserved.
I think she is campaigning and calling, but if someone said,”Chelsea don’t call back.” she would respect them.
In other words, I don’t think she is offensive in any way, and no wonder she is afraid of the media. I realize her dad has made some big time mistakes – but if you saw your dad on the news every night you might become media phobic. I almost think she has a Post Traumatic Media Fear and I think she has every right to.
Posted by: Susan | February 9, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
Jeanie,he is a cult, There nothing wrong with a strong woman, We need a strong leader that will get everyone working for the country. Obama just talks prety, his got more skeleton then a graveyard.
Posted by: David | February 9, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am
Just one other note now that we’ve established that Chelsea’s been infantilized into a victimized child when in fact she’s an Ivy league educated grown woman seeking to sway superdelegates and voters into voting for her mother . . .
When Hillary debated with MSNBC moderating in October her poll numbers tanked because she wasn’t favored the way she is with other moderators like Charlie Gibson. She talks a good game about being so tough and even had her surrogates out taunting Obama for not agreeing to debate her every week. But when he agreed to do a couple, SHE’s actually the one backing out of half of them and she’s using ironically using her grown daughter as the excuse.
That seems to be her specialty – critizing somebody for calling into question the very behavior she actually uses. Barack called her on her twisting of words before SC and she got trounced there. If she’s just using this as an excuse to get out of an unfriendly debate that she doesn’t think she can handle, I find that repulsive because a person’s career is on the line . . .
Posted by: Sam | February 9, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
jeanie – yes sure dream on !!!
Messiah/Senator “YES WE CAN” will quickly become President “NO HE CAN’T” and 50% of the democrats will have bumper stickers “DON’T BLAME ME, I VOTED FOR HILLARY!”
Its not American Idol we are voting for, it’s the American President!
Posted by: dgfromtx | February 9, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am
The media is the epitomy of free speech. Don’t trample on that. Europe is so much more scrutinizing. The comment though obviously an opportunity for Clinton to make a statement and get more air time, was benign. In the English language it referred to the campaign, not their daughter taking up another occupation. The journalist is suspended? We are all playing along with a political game here. The truth is, Obama has momentum and Hillary is throughing a beg for money in her stumps now. It’s a case of the big wig raising their cash in big ways really fast with big contributors. (Remember when she was the cash cow?) Her money came from lobbyists, pacts biggest in Health Care. They are tapped now because they gave limit. Obama is on a movement across the country. Does not take from big contributors. He raises his money with individuals who are willing to give him more now. He is unifying the country. He is giving us a reason to vote. A reason to want to be Americans again.
Posted by: Jacko | February 9, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am
The people who are continuing to down the Clintons, and accept news anchor’s degrading them and their childern are disgusting, heartless, and simple idiots. If this where your child that was being degraded on national TV for what ever reason or situation, political or non-political, I’m very sure you would be the first ones trying to sue MSNBC or any other news station for the news anchors making very insensitive comments made towards you or your child, what sorry gutless, jerks. Nobody, not even my worst enemy needs deserves to be humiliated like that on National TV in the name of news ratings. Have this world gotten that cold and insenstive?
And for the Sexist Cable news shows like MSNBC, Fox News, and CNN, they should all be taken off the air, they are not reporting objective and non-biased news, they are attacking people personally and getting away with it, this is disgusting, and gutless as well. I will not be watching these stations no time soon until they start cleaning up their act and begain reporting non-biased and objective news again, this has really gotten out of hand and become way over the top, this needs to stop from this day forward,if not people in droves are going to tired of it and start boycotting these stations, the public will refuse to continue to accept crap like this and call it news, these reporters and anchors should show some class and leave their personal opinions, views and commentaries in check at the door.
Chris Matthews should have been fired for similar comments made about the Clintons some weeks ago, this is not free speech when you are given the trust of delivering the news in a non-biased and objective way. Since this election Campaign have started, these cable news stations have gotten bold in letting their sexist and gender biases known towards the Hillary Campaign, they all but made The Obama campaign a place of holy worship, and can’t be touched or critized in any way or you will be swift-boated for doing it by these news anchors, this is not fair and balanced, Obama can say anything about Hillary and recieve no negative comments towards him or his campiagn staff, I believe no matter how they feel about the Clinton’s personally, they should leave their biases and personal opinions in check at the door, this pattern continues to exist,because the management of these cable news stations fails to put their anchors in check, so in my opinion, they are also just as guilty by association.
I also hope the Clinton Campaign boycott’s MSNBC,because this has become a ritual and pattern. The men on MSNBC and some other Cable news station’s would rather for a African American man become Presidential Nominee then a Women, this made bluntly evident because their behavior and actions prove’s out that they have issues with gender, by exitbiting that old glass ceiling mentility, which very old fashion and ignorant in my opinion. I believe if a well popular white male was running for President on the Democratic ticket instead of Obama, these news anchors would not givehis campaign the time of day, because most people who have gender problems most likely have problems with race as well, but Obama so happen to be a Black educated and a male who can speak very well, so they settle for him for the time being, and hope doing the general that the White male Republican beat Obama out, then a Republican Prseident would remain in office, the news media is not fooling me, Oh they are building up Obama right now, he could do no wrong, but just wait until the general election, if Obama is the nominee, these cable news anchors will more than likely try and tear him down, to help get the Republican nominee in office.
Obama, enjoy your free ride, pass, and popualrity now, because if you become the nominee, you will be shift-boated by these same biased news anchors whose doing a excellent job building you up to win the Democratic nomination, because in the long-term you will not escape their venomthey often spurted on Hillary, but the real goal and objective of the biased media and Republicna partygoal and is to try and get Hillary out of the race, because they know she has more experience and know-how than her Democratic opponent, which gives her a better chance of beating the Republican nominee, so in order to try and accomplish this,they will seek to try bind and gag the strong man; a woman in this case, meaning Hillary, and then it will be easier to pick off the weaker man, meaning Obama, because he’s only a Jr Senator. How clever and shewd that would be.
Go Hillary Go!! You are our new “Clean up Woman” who has the most experience, know-how, and ability to clean-up Bush’s mess he will leave behind in 2009, including making Obama’s message of hope and change he so often preaches about on his campaign stump truly a reality, not just brillant talk and pump-up inspiration and emotionalism just to get the young and old to take a leap of faith to vote him, because Obama is the candidate who has the lessor of experience to deliver on his campaign promises, also recently, Obama is now unwilling and scared to debate Hillary anytime, anyplace, as requested by her campiagn staff, if he was such a brillant and confident Orator, he should not have had a problem stepping up to the plate, and meet her challenge head-on, therefore the voters who vote for Obama will really be taking a greater risk voting for him over Hillary, becuase she is willing and able to meet and overcome any challenge put before her in this electin campaign.
“Keep on Pushin” “Clean-Up Woman Hillary,” because “We’re Rolling On And A Winner”
Posted by: Darrel | February 9, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am
There are things that happened in that Whitehouse that were so despicable that no one should have forgotten. The media you think is biased is just informed. They have it all in front of them. It was all there all documented. How Hillary expected an office in the West Wing of the White House and had a tantrum when she did not get Al Gore’s office. How Hillary behaved toward the Troopers. That was called Troopergate. Then the firings of the travel office, Hillary did that alone. She put in her friends from Arkansas. That was called Travelgate. The media and we have access through the internet to it all. It happened. People don’t want to think that the stories are no more than Hillary’s words “a vast right wing conspiracy”. Tell Vince Foster. Tell Juanita Broderick. During the debate Wolf Blitzer tried to remind everyone the debacle of Hillary’s Health Care. (Behind closed doors.) If Hillary gets the nomination, then the Democrats lose the White House. There are too many who remember and she is too polarizing to win Republican votes. Obama on the other hand takes all.
There are only a few oportunities like this in a lifetime. I have a feeling that this man is more than a candidate. He is more than a movement. He is something of history. Vote your gut.
Posted by: Jeanie | February 9, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am
Jackas, if you need a reason to want to be Americans again. And Obama Hussein is giving you that sentiment, you should see a Doctor.
Posted by: James | February 9, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am
I thought Hillary was low on campaign funds and was pushing for debates to help her out.
Wouldn’t boycotting debate be like cutting off debate despite your race?
Posted by: Jeanie | February 9, 2008, 2:22 am 2:22 am
I am sure Hillary, would pimp out her dead grandmother, if that were to her benefit.
I do not envy Chelsea, poor girl.
Nick
Posted by: Nick | February 9, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
I don’t usually post here on ABC – what’s with the spammers who repeat the same comments again without addressing the criticisms (so saddened, darrel)?
Posted by: Sam | February 9, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am
copy of email i sent to msnbc today i think we should all boycott them, write to them, etc. The media bias is bad enough, but attacking children is beyond the pale. And if the same phrase had been used regarding Michelle Obama, Shuster would’ve been fired in a second and the media would’ve spent a week talking about how bad it was – what i wrote to msnbc – It is atrocious enough that your crew of misogynistic “reporters” continue their biased, hateful commentary, clearly attempting to steer the democratic nomination to Barack Obama.. Then when they are called on a particularly egregious statement, that the Clintons are “pimping out” Chelsea, you “temporarily” suspend one of them and have him issue an apology. Then you post an article with a headline highlighting that Clinton is angered by the atrocious comment rather than saying up front that the comment was atrocious. Similarly, you took no disciplinary action when Matthews expressed his hateful opinion that Senator Clinton’s career is a result of President Clinton’s infidelity. I shall certainly boycott your network and hope that many others do the same. If you have any respect for journalism, you will fire virtually every commentator you employ and start again, with an apology to the viewers.
Posted by: so saddened | February 9, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
Nick, you probably have done it youre self, Obama lover, I bet you voted Bush last election
Posted by: Stewart | February 9, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
We have been watching the “shuster” clip from overseas and we are completely shock at the lack of common human decency that this MSNBC network has for their presidential candidates. We have begun to boycott not only this network but also have contacted the paid advertisers about this network’s inciteful of hate and the destructive message they have sent thru the media waves with their sexist commentators. These commentators, Matthews and his minion, Shuster must be fired to right the wrongs they have committed.
Posted by: Anatole France | February 9, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am
Oh come on. I don’t care how educated she is. It is wrong to speak of two women in that manner – at least it was in the America I grew up in. To imply Hillary is a pimp implies (according to the urban dictionary) “A man who makes a profession out of reducing women to commodities and convincing them to sell their bodies to clients. An oppressor of women. One of the lowest forms of humanoid scum.”
In effect the people on this board are supporting calling media phobic Chelsea a “prostitute for her mother.”
That is unless you are saying it was a compliment and Schuster was really saying that a former “first Child” is *made* to look very ghettofab and bling bling by her mother.
Really, it was sexist with Hillary being equated to a pimp and Chelsea equated to a whore.
Shame on you all……
Posted by: Susan | February 9, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
Don Imus was fired for called young women “nappy headed ‘ho’s.” This is the same thing. We are talking about human respect and we are talking about the family of an ex-president.
Louis Farrakan, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be yelling and screaming if someone made the comment “pimping out” about anyone in Obama’s family just as they did when Don Imus wrongfully spoke of the young women that way.
I guess some Americans no respect for themselves or anyone else…..
Posted by: Susan | February 9, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am
Susan I think perhaps there are ‘two Americas’ that we’re dealing with and the cultural usage of the term ‘pimping somebody out’ means to use them for personal gain – there’s no sexual or physical connotation.
As well, I think for women who deal with men as equals and have acquired some level of power, we would tend to see Chelsea as somebody with more political and social power than David Shuster and therefore fair game for criticism. The street vernacular was in poor taste which I’ve already admitted and its usage is questionable for an anchor for a news organization, but irrespective of their ages and genders, who cares what David Shuster said about Chelsea – she may be single-handedly engineering the outcome of this election and people actually think her role in the campaign shouldn’t be questioned? Ridiculous!
It’s not about language and I highly doubt either Hillary or Chelsea give a flying flip what David Shuster thinks about either of them – Hillary just doesn’t want to do a debate on MSNBC and she’s willing to destroy the career of somebody to get out of a potentially damaging situation. Terrible!
Posted by: Sam | February 9, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am
Susan, the difference with the Imus situation was that the Rutgers women’s basketball team didn’t seek out the spotlight – they just happened to make it to the national championships which got national news coverage.
In contrast, Chelsea could potentially alter the outcome of the next Presidential election. Political speech – and like I said, I’m sure she could care less what David Shuster thinks of her and her mom.
Posted by: Sam | February 9, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am
PS And I think respect begets respect . . . I’m not sure the majority of Americans believe the Clintons are respectful of others when they are always passing judgment on other and wagging their fingers at people screaming ‘shame on you’ ‘shame on you’
Don’t even get me started on people living in glass houses . . .
Posted by: Sam | February 9, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am
I think a secondary motive for the Clintons to speak out is because they know her ‘base’ tends to feel angry, powerless, and victimized, and so portraying Chelsea in this light fires up the ‘base’. They don’t care whose career they destroy in the process – all part of the game . . .
Posted by: Sam | February 9, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am
Where I grew up in Pittsburgh, the term pimp was used to speak of a man controlling stupid women who were whores and had no self respect. I think that is how the term may have gotten this “soft’ non-sexist meaning that you say means taking advantage of another. I would think it would be rare to say I pimped out my husband and more common to talk about pimping out a female. This is the same as the racist talk you say you abhor so much as far as I can see. You make exceptions as to when it is OK to be sexist and this is one of those instances. Why didn’t the girls Don Imus reported on stay home if they didn’t want reporters talking about them? They didn’t need to play sports? Do you see how crazy this is? What is wrong is wrong all of the time for everyone…….
Posted by: Susan | February 9, 2008, 3:24 am 3:24 am
MSNBC is terrible, seriously I used to like them until about 5 years ago. Nowadays, when I try to stomach them and tune in, all they do is complain about what FOX or CNN does. Between Olberman, Matthews, and Abrams, they act like they’re possessed on the air. Maybe (MS)NBC News should pay better attention to their own operation instead of critiquing everyone else!
Posted by: Vince | February 9, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am
Sam I am sure we could have found a place for you on the defense counsel team at Nuremberg–defending the indefensible. By your twisted logic Sheister the sexist is the victim. You are one sick puppy.
Posted by: wbb | February 9, 2008, 3:28 am 3:28 am
What concerns me, is not the comment, but the consorship by MSNBC ( media ) of
the reporter making the comment. When you step in the public spotlight, one is subject to comment. Apparently those controlling MSNBC ( Bill Gates ) have little respect for the U.S. Constitution and the First Amendment.
Second, the fact that the Clinton’s and campaign are upset, illustrates that Hillary and camp are not thick skinned enough, to lead the U.S. in the rough and tumble world of international politics. Hillary is a whiner and if she gets in a President, the U.S. will be branded a Notion of Whiners….. boo who.
Posted by: Patriot85375 | February 9, 2008, 3:34 am 3:34 am
Oh, I see I wasn’t the only one offended by looking further on Political Punch. I see Emily’s List is offended. To say Hillary is thin skinned or that Chelsea should take it is to say it’s OK for Rosa Parks to sit in the back of the bus and for African Americans that don’t like it – well you’re just too thin skinned for life in America. Grow up. Maybe you need to read a book Hillary wrote such as “Living History” or Halley’s book “On the Road with Hillary” instead of being programmed with the pundits spin. The media is run by corporations. Corporations are owned by Republicans. Republicans want to run against Obama. That is the only way John McCain can win. Read 1984 while you’re at it. You’ll figure it out!
Posted by: Susan | February 9, 2008, 4:04 am 4:04 am
While one can understand that the Clintons are protective of their daughter, she is an adult who has chosen to thrust herself into the spotlight by actively campaigning on her mother’s behalf. The Clinton campaign has attempted to insulate Chelsea nonetheless. Chelsea refuses to answer questions from reporters. That’s ok. But when reporters attempt to ask Chelsea questions during campaign events or while Chelsea is pressing the flesh with voters, Clinton staffers have shushed the reporters, yelled at the reporters, and attempted to block the reporters. This conduct by the Clinton campaign is almost as ridiculous as the time the Clintons had an aide send a letter to an Italian restaurant in Manhattan threatening legal action because the restaurant had hung in its window a picture of the owner with Chelsea Clinton. The picture had been taken when Chelsea had eaten at the restaurant. These celebrity-with-owner photos are pretty standard decoration at most places. If the Clintons actually want to protect Chelsea’s privacy, they wouldn’t use her in the campaign even if she wanted to help. Otherwise, the press and public have a right to comment on Chelsea and ask questions of her. She’s an adult voluntarily acting as a surrogate for the candidate and may be put through the ringer just like the candidate. Just because she is the Clintons’ daughter does not excuse her from scrutiny and ridicule, she’s now an adult. Minor children are a different scenario – Obama’s daughters and Edward’s two younger children have had no real choice about whether to appear on the campaign trail so they’re understandably hands-off. The comment itself is stupid but harmless. The Clintons are making a tempest out a teapot. It’s a pretty bad attempt to deflect the coverage away from how they’re asking their daughter to solicit support from celebrities and super delegates. You might expect a call from Bill, from the campaign staff, or from public officials who’ve endorsed Clinton, but a call from Chelsea is a bit weird.
Posted by: NewYorker | February 9, 2008, 4:10 am 4:10 am
As a parent I can only tell you that if your child is a decent person doing nothing wrong and someone takes a cheap shot like that for a laugh I would be furious. It is a load of rubbish justifying it under that she is an adult, her parents etc blah blah. The truth is she seems like a good kid who is helping her mum out. The comment was made simply based on her presence not any words or action on her part. It was an ugly comment. You all know right from wrong you were most likely brought up well. Bad behaviour is bad behaviour end of story. Why don’t they take a swipe at the large number of young people who don’t vote at all. I wonder if the same comment was made about Mrs. Obama out their on the trail alone people would have been so dismisive of it. That would have created a uproar. Her parents invited any derision they suffer through their own actions but she has not.Politics is ugly but excusing this lack of decency does not encourage decent people to be involved.
Posted by: Disgusted | February 9, 2008, 5:36 am 5:36 am
MSNBC takes the prize away from Fox News, when they allow the likes of David Schuster to spew such hate, vulgarity, and venom on a sweet person like Chelsea Clinton, who is out there helping her mother’s campaign.
Would David Schuster have ever said,” Obama continually pimps out his wife for votes”? Of course, not! Trashing the only child of a white woman Senator and the former President of the United States of America, seems to be fair game in this country, whereas it would be unfathomable to attack an African-American wife of a Junior Senator!
Thank God, Chelsea didn’t wear Michelle Obama’s black patent leather boots and tight skirts on the campaign trail! And heaven forbid, if Hillary would have ever snorted ‘blow’ to find herself!
David Schuster needs to be fired by MSNBC, and sued by the Clinton’s. As for the rabid Chris Matthews, he needs to be vaccinated, and then be neutered, before he is allowed to go back on the air.
Posted by: Sia66 | February 9, 2008, 5:49 am 5:49 am
Clinton Tactics Hold No Bounds! No family member of someone running for Office should be calling any Super Delegates!
And you hillary backers that are whining about chelsea, she is a grown lady now, once she decided to enter the Political field, she is open for the comments that go along with the territory! If the Clintons dont want reporters making comments about Chelsea then tell her stay out of the campaign!
Posted by: Demo Rules | February 9, 2008, 5:51 am 5:51 am
So you then are saying that the media has no limit or no moral responsibility and that “pimpimg out” is a proper term to use when someone asks for privacy. Also, that sexism is OK in America.
Why couldn’t Mr. Shuster have said, “I think that Hillary Clinton is using Chelsea. She relates well with young people and Mrs. Clinton uses this to her advantage.” That is a political statement – not a sexist, demeaning, hate laden, inflammatory, vulgar attack on a loving act of support by a child on behalf of a parent.
I really don’t think anyone hates Hillary that much. I think they hate what she represents and the fear they hold inside as they are uncomfortable with themselves and their respective genders and they feel powerless as a result.
Posted by: Susan | February 9, 2008, 5:52 am 5:52 am
The News Media has posted alot of lies about Obama too, since he started this race for Office!The point is, If You Cant Take The Heat Get Out Of The Kitchen!
Posted by: Demo Rules | February 9, 2008, 6:07 am 6:07 am
Boycott NBC? What are they going to do? Not read their news?
Posted by: LongT | February 9, 2008, 6:10 am 6:10 am
Bill and Hillary know that the News Media would be leaving there verbal cheap shots at Chelsea, this is just another Clinton Tactic to try and win over more voters! What you people should be mad about is the Clintons letting Chelsea get tied up in Politics!
Posted by: Demo Rules | February 9, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am
Bill and Hillary put Chelsea on the campaign tour so that makes Chelsea ‘fair game’. Chelsea is now like any other public figure, celebrity.
Posted by: joe too | February 9, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am
In context the facts are unchangeable. The comment insuates that Hillary Clinton prostituted her own daughter. I am an Obama supporter and I am telling you it is morally reprehensible assertion. It is not whining Clinton supporters it is people putting decency above political gain. Helping a loved one irrespective of the fact is politics does not leave you open to such filth for no apparent reason. As for phoning delegates, the reality is the girl probably knows the people she is calling. Surely the candidate wouldn’t let someone make a call thats not going to be well received. Using the logic put out there already aren’t the recipients of these calls successful elected officals capable of making a rational decision not based solely on a phone call. This is not an issue of camps it is about us as people.
Posted by: context please | February 9, 2008, 6:21 am 6:21 am
The media would never use the word ‘pimp’ to describe what Obama has been having his wife do for him for months. You don’t think Michele would call the Super Delegates herself if she was personally acquainted with them?
Do you know how many months the Obama’s supplied Ted Kennedy with vintage wines to get his endorsement?
But of course, no one can ever use the word pimp in regards to Obama – it would be racist.
If using the word pimp is considered proper in describing the actions of a loving daughter to help out her mother’s campaign, then Obama’s been mega-pimping out his wife and children for months since Iowa. Or do you honestly think that Michelle Obama was hugging all those fat Iowans because she wanted to stay warm?
What is considered more pimping, a young woman dressed in modest clothing speaking to Super Delegates, or a mature woman, prancing about in her black patent leather boots and ‘can-barely-zip-it-up’ outfits, hugging complete strangers for votes?
If ‘pimping out’ is considered a decent expression to describe family members campaigning on behalf of their parent of spouses, Obama is the Pimp of the Hill. Thank God he is better at Hillary in at least one other thing, besides letting out poetic “flatulance”.
Posted by: Sia | February 9, 2008, 6:37 am 6:37 am
Clintions New Tactics Holds No Bounds! If you people want to get Mad at someone get Mad at the Clintons for getting Chelsea, into the Political field!It doesnt take a Rocket Scientist to figure this 1 out!
Posted by: Demo Rules | February 9, 2008, 6:53 am 6:53 am
Wow, it appears that some of Obama’s supporters have not value and no respect for anyone.
Posted by: voteforme008 | February 9, 2008, 7:04 am 7:04 am
The sad thing about these posts are the number of people reading them who are changing their vote or deciding to vote for Hillary because of this article. How very sad. Actually quite pathetic!
Posted by: so sad | February 9, 2008, 7:12 am 7:12 am
So what do you say to the fact it is widely reported as fact that the Obama campaign are contacting superdelegates? Did you think they wouldn’t it is not against the rules they are all trying to sway the votes in their favour.
Posted by: to demo rules | February 9, 2008, 7:13 am 7:13 am
Come on people what did she do to deserve to warrant such an inappropriate comment. A phone call is not validation. The comment was made because she is the daughter it would have passed unnoticed if it was a staffer or friend. That is why people are offended. She was targeted for this.
Sometimes thngs cross a lione and loyalties have nothing to do with it. I voted Obama and hope to vote for him again. It does not sway my vote because the Obama campaign had nothing to do wth it
Posted by: Politics aside | February 9, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am
when I read from this blog a comment like”there are things that happened in that White House that were so despicable that no one should have forgotten. The media you think is biased is just informed”, now I have to tell this story. I am vietnamese, from the south. I was there when President Diem and his whole family was assassinated in a coup d’état.Despeakable things were reported about them by the media then, to be found years later that they were pure lies to justify and calm the public of such a loss. Of course to these days it is reported by americans and most of the rest of the world that the southvienamese did’nt like Diem and his family. Wrong, he was the best we had then.We had peaceful years until he was killed.But the americans who put him into power didn’t like the wife of his brother, Mrs Nhu. So they killed the whole family. Bad policy because she was of course a strong character and was too visible in the government, but the vietnamese don’t mind that because their war heroes were a long time ago women.After Diem, the whole south fell apart. Now if the advisors of the White House were not so biased they would have understood more of the situation and would have avoided the deadly error they made.I am not a communist so I am thankful to the americans but not for all the mistakes they make so often in foreign policy, including in South Vietnam.The Irak war is certainly bad because of the way it’s conducted. The Bush administration should have understood more about tribal issues in those regions and not just blinded by the oil business. For history to be made by people they have to be far more informed, and that’s a job, for the media are often instruments of the power in place. America is still a democracy, come on americans can be more open minded to make their own opinions and not just through what is served by any media. So if you just hang on to the “despicable things” told by the media about the Clintons, you can be easily blinded and miss out on real issues.As far as my opinion is concerned, and allow me to give it, for as many mistakes can be made by the americans, I wish the best for this country and I can only say that Hillary Clinton deserves more respect than what has been thrown on her. How many politicians had affairs and even double lives : French Presidents Chirac, Mitterrand, italian leader Berlusconi, even President Kennedy and lots of republican politicians (senators, governors etc…)Now for europeans that’s private affair . But given that americans want their president to be like a saint and they have the right to claim so but why make a big mess just about Bill Clinton? and that being the case, Hillary Clinton had a lot of dignity when the ordeal was on.Isn’t it clear it was a republican conspiracy against the democrats and so she stood up to face hardship. I think the republican machine is dirty compared to the democrats. No democrats will take so much energy and public money to find out and expose a republican politician for sex.Now in this election run for nominee, it seems like there is a tactic to get Hillary out, imagine a republican candidate losing agaisnt a woman democrat,not just anyone but someone who stood up for years against their conspiracy, that must be unthinkable for the matcho republicans. For what else can they find against Hillary now that they have exposed everything they could? But they can find a lot to serve to the public when the time comes to beat a democrat if Obama was to be nominated. Inside the democrat camp, the democrats are not clear neither. They supported Hillary before they switch side because so many people fall into the trap of the pro republican media. And on top of that, sexism is neither excluded from the democrat side. Who is Obama before this campaign and who is behind the big money he got from the beginning? That’s the question asked by my american surrounding in conversations.I wonder how Obama can face the republican machine if nominated? But you americans make history if you distance more from the appearance. Hope the best for America with all my heart.
Posted by: Michelle | February 9, 2008, 8:00 am 8:00 am
Obama’s young supporters are on the wild side. you can tell by viewing them in the audience. They don’t care about anything in life but or what goes on. Clinton supporters are in a different league that’s because she has better supporters. If you don’t like Hillary don’t vote for her it is as simple as that. I am not voting for Obama only Hillary and if she doesn’t win the nomination I will vote republican. There is no way I want Obama in the white house. A president that lacks the experience to move forward, no foreign policy and no capabilities to start from day one. Hillary has it all over him.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | February 9, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am
Gloria: For your information MSNBC is the only network that is out of control on their comments about Hillary. And Chris Matthews is not innocent by all means. They all need to be replaced. I listened to Fox last night and one of the news media stated that no one should ever make a comment like Shuster did on Chelsea. He has now been suspended at this time but who knows if they will take him back.Chris Matthews and the crew are busy promoting Obama between the lines of their statements. No station should promote any candidate.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | February 9, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am
MSNBC seems biased to Clintons. On Super Tuesday, flipping through all TV channels for the different election commentaries, MSNBC appears the most biased station
Posted by: Francis | February 9, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
MSNBC seems biased. I agree it is an “OBAMA NETWORK”. After listening to their Super Tuesday and post election commantaries, it seems to me that they are one of the most biased networks in the country
Posted by: Franz | February 9, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am
The inconsistencies in the Democrat Message are boggling my mind. First off, I thought the DNC was that big tent party supposedly for everyone (including pimps, hookers, and drug addicts). While the party wants to make addiction more acceptable and all that, they love to take shots at Rush Limbaugh for his addiction. Next, when you look at the party faithful’s reaction and the Machines threats to the media it is somehow ok to be a pimp but it is not ok to compare an elite member of the machine to being a pimp. No matter if he is a near pedophile in the eyes of most Americans. Free Speech is something the elite in the Machine can practice but they don’t trust us with that part of the bill of rights or for that matter some of the other important parts of the bill of rights. Don’t expect to let freedom ring under President Clinton. Good luck getting Hillary elected and assasinating lady liberty (the statue of liberty which is representative of our freedoms).
Posted by: BlackwaterJon | February 9, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
Comment from Germany:
First: Here in Germany a reporter with such a rude comment would have been thrown out immediately and i think, that would be a good idea.
BUT (second): Chelsea Clinton is not a little child anymore.
Yesterday, at Feb. 8 there was a detailed report in the biggest and highly respected german newspaper
“Sueddeutsche Zeitung” about the work of Chelsea Clinton (second page of the business section).
After studying in Stanford and Oxford she was employed at McKinsey in New York. She earned right at the beginning several hundred thousand Dollar per year. At the end of 2006 she changed to the hedge funds “Avenue Capital” at Wall Street where she is currently employed. Her annual salery is estimated several hundred thousand Dollar.
Here in Germany someone like Chelsea is considered as true lobbyist. Very interesting for germans, maybe also for US citizens and not commonly known.
Here in germany many of these hedge funds are responsible for the unnecassary asset stripping of many companies and the loss of thousands of jobs.
Posted by: German | February 9, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am
Give me a break, all you Hillary supports, need to learn to think for yourselfs!Other Media’s have made all kinds of bad comments towards Obama.And Chelsea is 27 years old she isnt a kid no more, but maybe Hillary supporters are!If you want to get Mad at someone get Mad at Bill and Hillary for letting Chelsea get involved in Politics!If You Cant Take The Heat Get Out Of The Kitchen!
Posted by: Demo Rules | February 9, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
Clinton Tactics Knows No Bounds!
Posted by: Demo Rules | February 9, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
Bill Clinton may have earned the title of the first black President from Toni Morrison, but the way I see it Hillary is sizing up to be the first Uncle Tom President. Duh, Hillary. It wasn’t Lyndon Johnson that gave the Dream speech, won the Nobel Peace Prize, and led a peaceful revolution.
Posted by: BlackwaterJon | February 9, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
Anyone who dosen’t know that MSNBC has been campaigning for Obama hasn’t been watching. I actually do not watch any NBC programs anymore. What are they afraid of. My theory is that they want Obama in because they know he can’t win against McCain. I have found the most unbiased on ABC and CNN. And don’t forget the Daily Show!
Posted by: Pat | February 9, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
Duh. It was Lyndon Johnson that signed the Civil Rights laws in 1964 and 1965. He was also an activist since the 40′s.
Posted by: Pat | February 9, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
We are expected to forgive Hillary when she makes a galactic error by omitting Martin Luther King’s role in the civil rights movement and we are supposed to be good little troopers when it comes to knocking off journalists that stray from the DNC talking points. Sorry to break up the Hillary lovefest, but I am not a fan of Hillary’s strong arm tactics.
Posted by: BlackwaterJon | February 9, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am
Attention Hillary Backers;before you all start crying about Chelsea, why dont you Stop! and think about the Soldiers over in Iraq who are Alot younger then Chelsea.They are dieing in Iraq, and not by words but by real bullets.And whose Votes helped put them in Iraq? I belive her name is Hillary!
Posted by: Demo Rules | February 9, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
What do you know about ladies liberty if you are not a woman? The only real freedom we have is our independency based on our work and effort to exist fully, without any bias towards men. You might think I am a lesbian. No I am not but I know about freedom. The price to pay for it is work work work for all the values you want to stand for.To sexist men I want to tell this, women can be strong and not destructive towards them. But they have to tune their attitudes accordingly. And “pimping” is not an acceptable word because it misleads the feelings of the public who needs more than being poorly entertained while they try to choose their candidate.
Posted by: jane | February 9, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
It is quite clear that the conservative media is using innuendo, choice adjectives, air time and other slight of hand techniques to prejudice viewers towards or against candidates.
Posted by: Mike Guilford | February 9, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
If anyone is prejudice go to Tim Russits blogs on MSNBC and the ones on Lou Dobbs now there are many many racist remarks I have read on there blogs that come from the people and on the internet all over who speak badly of the immigrants not those people are the prejudice who speak bad of the illigels alines
Posted by: Gloria | February 9, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
You should read the letter addressed by Senator Clinton to President Bush about the war and stops with slogans Clinton supports the war. It’s far more nuanced than that. The americans suffered psychologically from September 11. Any leader of a democratic country has to deal with the danger the country faces (terrorism) and also keep up the morals of the people. The war seemed to be the choice only on the basis of the threat of massive destruction weapons. The Bush administration lied about the massive destruction weapons. Everyone was cheated on that. How come no one points that out instead of “Hillary supported the war”.But the Irak issue is far more complex and you need more than just information released by the mainstream media to make your opinion on this. And even if the Bush administration made those gigantic mistakes, it needs more than a simplistic solution to this issue .Unfortunately, boys are dying in Irak.Unfortunately terrorism seems to be a war tactic by those who don’t have technology superiority. Why don’t just calm down and learn more so wise decisions are made for the future? Right now you choose the candidate you think is the best but stopped fueling slogans from poorly informed opinion.
Posted by: Jane | February 9, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am
I think I am becoming very ashamed of my gender. When I read through these comments and find women who say they would actually kill this guy for saying something like this about their daughter, when I read that Hillary can demand to have it both way with impunity but other candidates must explain, I can only shake my head in despair. How is that the people, mostly women, cannot understand that most of us (women and men) are not against electing a woman as president, but against electing a manipulative, dirty-tricks, lying, underhanded woman for the office? Have we learned nothing from the last eternity with Bush in the WH? Do we really want a politician with the same modus operandi at play during the elections?
I can’t believe you are all swallowing this sainted mother bit: the reported used unfortunate words but the Clintons want to enforce selected censorship, it seems to me. And the TANTRUM Hillary displayed in threatening to cancel the debate was just too much–real woman don’t become hysterical and emotional when they can’t control things.
Unbelievable, people! Stop thinking with your gender, stand back, and look objectively at how Hillary is conducting her campaign. And if this is how she plays to get elected, how will she play if she is in the WH?
Posted by: Deb | February 9, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
I have never been so irate as to even send an e-mail – Untill now, I will never watch NBC again in this life time. They have sunk to a new all time “LOW”. In the first place any self respecting person would never even consider ‘Obama’, not even for Dog Catcher, let alone President of our Great Country.
Posted by: Bonnie Snyder | February 9, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
The suspension was well deserved. Unfortunately for David Shuster, he became a scapegoat representing all of the awful reporting going on in this campaign. The pro-Obama media bias is so nauseating, that many people can’t even stand to watch the news. Many say that Hillary Clinton will do anything to get elected. Many American’s feel the media will do anything to get Obama elected. It is unfair to American’s for this nomination to be so influenced by mainstream medai reporting. I am not watching MSNBC,CNN or NBC news any longer due to their bias. ABC has done an a better job straigh-up reporting the news and they now have become my favored news network.
Posted by: Trish | February 9, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
Hillary using her little girl to sweet talk super-delegates into committing to her Mommy is what is offensive to me! If the Democratic nominee is determined by this shameless tactic, it would be an injustice to the voters.
And Chelsea wants to act like a Big Girl by campaigning, but runs and hides behind Mommy’s apron when reporters want to talk to her.
Posted by: Eve | February 9, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
let’s not forget who the anchors are on NBC. you have two former republican representatives, and the others have made careers in conservative talk. This is true of all the major media outlets and don’t forget about that filth called “fox news”. lets face it, there is a bias in our national media and it is definitely not libera.
Posted by: tomulcak | February 9, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
I am a young (19) woman. I have watched these campaigns closely, since this is the first time I can vote. I have listened to the debates and read many articles. I came into the season pretty much an open vessel, except that I leaned much more democratic than republican.
After all this, here is where I am right now: I don’t understand the obsessive appeal of Hillary to women. Really, I don’t.
She claims 35 years of experience but when you look at it closely, HER experience is six years in the senate–during which she accomplished nothing of note–and a few years as a lawyer before becoming the supporting act for her elected husband. Her political effort in the WH was health care, which showed her incapable of compromise. Her tours around the world were as the face of Bill Clinton and cannot be counted as her own experience.
Then look at how she has conducted her campaign. When she was FAR ahead, she was gracious. When she started losing support, she let loose her attack dog, started going negative, cried, and starting playing the gender card.
This latest bit with Chelsea is an unfortunate example of the lady at her worst–at least as seen through these 19 year old eyes. If Chelsea wanted to complain about the treatment, fine–after all, she is a 28 year old woman with a voice of her own. Instead of letter the ‘victim’ speak, Mom made political hay out of by speaking out as an aggrieved mother. WHere is women empowerment in any of that?
I don’t understand. I have tried to be unbiased in my approach to making up my mind on who to vote for, but when I see women who write that you can’t understand unless you are a women, I would kill over words, MSNBC is the great Satan (ok, an exaggeration, but still…) I am repulsed by the overkill.
Just some thoughts from a first time voter…..
Posted by: Tika | February 9, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
eve, shut up. all candidates have used family members to campaign for them – its as American as the cheeseburger. and who would blame Chelsea if she did run and hide (which she did not – this statement by you is utterly false) given the hateful and spiteful treatment to the Clintons over all these many years by people like you and the mainstream media. don’t YOU have anything better to do but hate the Clintons.
Posted by: tomulcak | February 9, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
nate
Have no idea who Kika is, but perhaps you should develop some ability to articulate your arguments before you shoot off your keyboard.
Exactly whom has offended you and specifically why?
To stay on topic: I join the rising chorus of folks who ask why Chelsea, and emancipated young woman, did not speak out on her own behalf. That effort on her behalf would have done more to demonstrate the power of women than allowing Hillary to speak on her behalf. A dual message was sent, and neither was particularly enlightening or rewarding.
Posted by: Kitty | February 9, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
What makes me sick is the people who are backing chelsea/Clintons, she is 27 years old! remember the phrase, “Sticks and Stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me”!Well our soldiers in Iraq are not dieing from sticks and stones, but from bombs and bullets!And who Voted to send them there I think her name is Hillary!!!
Posted by: Demo rules | February 9, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Hill is choked only because it is true. Time to cry again.
Posted by: Mike from Canmore | February 9, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
It’s clear New York Times is behind this all after I have read the last few comments here, there the commutators behind this all or was it another Davini code?
Posted by: Gloria | February 9, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
Maybe ABC will pick up the debate!
I am sure glad Obama didn’t vote in favor of the war! Wait a second, Obama wasn’t even in the US Senate when the vote took place, wasn’t privy to all the documents, promises and discussions!
Only record of Obama on the war is two!
1. a speech at an anti-war rally in 2002, and
2. Telling Tim Russert he doesn’t know how he’d of voted for the war if he was a US Senate in 2004!
Hypocrit to use a speech and leave our his other record on the war!
Good for Obama in telling people in Idaho he was against gun control last week! Opps, on the record, Obama voted for gun control in the Illinois Senate!
Good thing Obama is against lobbyist money and won’t take any! Opps, Obama takes in millions from bundlers for lobbyists! Seems the change he offers is dirtier than presently going on in Washington, making it harder for find things out!
Nice platform Obama has in repairing Loisianna he stumps on this week! Opps that is the identical program Clinton put out in May of 2007!
But at least Obama will get it “right” on day one! Opps, buying a house with aide from a slumlord and saying he is boneheaded for doing it isn’t getting it right now is it? Saying he didn’t vote in favor of the Iraq war isn’t getting it right now is it?
Distortion and lies at the highest level is what Obama seems to be about, but it is about the people and not about him right? Who benefitted more from Obama’s actions, the Maytag workers who lost their jobs to Mexico, no Obama was to busy raking in bundled money from Board of Directors of Maytag to notice!
Could it be the people in the slums of Chicago he helped? No they went without heat while Obama was raking in money from the slumlord who wouldn’t provide them heat!
It must be nice to fool people with charming and feel good speeches for them to actually believe a person who wants people to believe what he says and not look at what he has done!
A vote for Obama is a vote for another Republican in the WH and the media is doing their best to swing it that way!
Posted by: me | February 9, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
This comment is being overblown, why?
The American people are being ‘pimped’ for media access by the Clintons in order to help make up for their cash-strapped campaign that cannot balanced its own budget, but which delude itself that it can balance America’s national budget.
It’s called karma.
How many females (including public humiliation of his own wife) have Bill Clinton used his power to mess with over the years?
Now his daughter is a target of a mere slang?
The Clintons have rightly kept their daughter out of the political process for years; because they recognize that she could have been a target of verbal jabs.
Just recently Chelsea decided not to give a 9-year old ‘reporter’ an interview. This means that the Clintons are hoping to have their cake and eat it too, while they plunge their daughter into politics. It ain’t gonna happen.
Posted by: New Yorker | February 9, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
The Time for Change Is Now, and his name is Obama! Hillary is the Old Politics, Obama is the new!Some of you people cant grasp the thought of this and want to hang on to the old!
Posted by: Demo Rules | February 9, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
It is clear that Hillary and Barack both have passionate supporters–in an age of voter apathy, this is a very good thing, indeed.
But the point of this article is how Hillary reacted to a poor choice of words with a mean-spirited innuendo attached. Bringing Obama into the discussion misses the point.
Words were said. The issue is how to respond to those words. From my vantage point as a lady of certain age, I find Hillary over-reacted and I don’t like what someone termed her tantrum in response to those words. It seems clear to me (though I grant you others do not see it) that she grabbed this incident with both hands to garner additional, much needed publicity. I suspect those who supported her before will continue to do so and go on with glowing admiration on how this makes her even more of a role model. That is fine; but I must say, as a woman who went through the burn the bra age and the hey-day of the woman’s liberation period, I find Hillary’s response in this instance as less than inspiring and in fact points to the double-standard type of campaigning I see her doing all the time. It is hypocritical to me that she demands no one introduce the gender card (or race card)–unless it is her campaign.
Posted by: Deb | February 9, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
If Chelsea is going to continue to actively influence the nomination process by wooing unelected “super-delegates”, she should be prepared to be critized. If the elected delegate count ends up in Obama’s favor, but the unelected super-delegates clinch the nomination for Hillary, there are going to be a LOT of angry and disinfranchised voters demanding an explanation.
A consequence of being outspoken is sometimes people talk back.
Posted by: Eve | February 9, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
The Clinton Tactics Knows No Bounds! first they tried bringing Race up agaisnt Obama in Politics, it failed,and people woke up and seen the light.Then she used tears, it helped her a little, but Americans woke up again!She continues using gender, but only the older women are falling for this tactic.Now they are using Chelsea, to stir things up! Well We Are Not Falling For It Any More!If you cant take the heat get out of the kitchen!
Posted by: Demo Rules | February 9, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
I think that Chelsea doesn’t want to be doing this. Maybe the reason the reason the phrase “pimped out” came to mind is because the look on her face (when we get to see her face) is reminiscent of a teenage runaway expose.
Posted by: Gail | February 9, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
Time to get real, had this been said about Michelle Obama, Caroline Kennedy, Maria Shriver or Oprah with their performances last week in LA, people would be up in arms!
The fact of the matter is the comment was uncalled for in the choice of words used!
Many so called journalists are attempting to control peoples views instead of assisting them with decent and factual reporting!
On both Dem and Rep reporting this campaign season, the media has been continually wrong, polls are all wrong and the media is proving that their swing on what Americans are thinking is way out of tune!
Face it, the media has been ridiculed in their reporting on elections since 2000 and this year they have chosen the approach of sensationalizing for viewership! CNN claims to have the best Political team in broadcasting. When in fact they are terrible and bias!
The other news channels have sleeze hosts attempting to score points by making completely demeaning statements about people working in the campaigns, and reporting isn’t about the issues and the differences in them, which good reporting is, it is about everything else to attract attention to sway people towards or against someone!
Maybe the first step towards fixing Washington is to rid Washington of all the self presumed know it all news talk show hosts and none objective reporting journalists!
Posted by: me | February 9, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
What I can say is that I am learning a lot about negative campaigning from the Clintons. I read about it, of course, is school, but to experience it in my first ever election is altogether a different thing.
I hope the Clintons stop what they are doing but I don’t think they will because it gives them a lot of media coverage and with a small treasure chest this is important.
But since the Clintons will not stop what they are doing, my next hope is that the electorate stops supporting folks who engage in such manipulation. Another wistful thought, I know. But to those women out there who will vote for any woman simply because she is a woman, consider the fact that the election of the wrong woman, a woman who cannot bridge the wide divide in America, a woman who comes to the WH with heavy baggage and a wayward husband, a woman who is manipulative and negative and willing to do anything, say anything to get elected, may do more harm to women in the US than letting this one pass into the night and looking forward to the next one.
I know I am speaking into the wind because I have read many of the emails from the ardent Hillary supporters. But here’s my final thought: I hope Hillary doesn’t win dirty, which is where she is heading. I hope she doesn’t win because she coerces the superdelegates into voting for her. I hope she doesn’t win because women, who have long felt disenfrachised, vote for her only because she is a woman. And I hope the Clintons stop playing the race and gender card and lying about it.
Posted by: tika | February 9, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
I suspect that most people who thinks Schuster’s comment was specifically sexist, and not simply metaphorical, are people who are supporting Sen. Clinton simply because she is a woman. She certainly has valid claims to being the best person for the job, as do the other candidates, however, to support her simply because of her gender is extremely narrow-minded. I have always thought that women should have complete equality and are certainly capable of being president, but to support her simply because of her gender, is, well, sexist. And going berserk about an innocent comment by a professional, capable journalist, is going too far.
Posted by: chris rand | February 9, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Frankly, the ungracious comments from the responders in this forum are as disgusting as those of the MSNBC commentators. There is a double standard as far as the Obama supporters are concerned. They are very reminiscent of the republican hate machine and I think it speaks loudly and clearly as to the hypocrisy of Obama’s campaign. DISGUSTING!
Posted by: Mary H | February 9, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
Chelsea needs to do herself a favor and drop out of her moms campaign.Americans dont want any more Clintons in Office, they are the old politics, Obama is the new.Voting for Hillary is not moving forward but taking a step back!
Posted by: Demo rules | February 9, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Mary,
The last refuge of the guilty is to hide behind attacking others.
Rather than dealing with the issue of whether Hillary was right or wrong in the way she handled this situation, you instead elect to go to some other reality to attempt to accuse the Obama campaign of hypocrisy–without a single sentence to justify your position.
I suspect you are one of those Clinton supporters who have no idea why you support her except she is a woman and you liked Bill as president; and I suspect the reasons you don’t like Obama are … well, let’s not even go there.
I think that if the facts are looked at objectively–not through emotions–that the Clinton campaign has been far more guilty of various attack-type actions than any of the other democratic campaigns. If you look just at the actions of Bill on the campaign trail, you have tipped the scales considerably.
This overreaction for political reasons of Hillary is just the latest effort to manipulate the press and the electorate, and you have obviously bought into it.
But please, since you have established yourselve as an authority on hypocrisy, please be so kind as to give me five explicit examples of the Obama campaign using the race / gender card like the Clinton campaign. Give me five examples of the same sort of dirty politics as the Clintons have engaged it. I’ll wait a few minutes while you compose your thoughts.
Posted by: kitty | February 9, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Right now Republicans are disunited.
Democrats can AGAIN help Republicans unite by allowing Clinton! lol
The Clintons’ destruction of their own White House legacy, denied Al Gore the Presidency by UNITING REPUBLICANS against Democrats!
Considering that the Democrats are very skillful at ‘snatching defeat from the jaws of victory’, the Democrats can nominate the Clintons for a THIRD TERM and have an encore of Republican unity, Republican victory, and A HUNDRED YEARS IN IRAQ! lol
Only, the American people will suffer!
Posted by: New Yorker | February 9, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
All you Hillary backers instead of crying over some comment a news anchor said about a 27 year old chelsea, should be worrying about all the soldiers who are dieing over in Iraq, and most of them are in there late teens and early 20,s!I dont see Hillary saying any thing about the Soldiers dieing over in Iraq, but more worried about News Media making comments about her grown up daughter!WAKE UP AMERICA
Posted by: Demo Rules | February 9, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
I am astonished by the level of ignorance that ends up in these blogs. Ironically all you people are doing is vomiting out all the nonsense you hear and choose to believe from the media. It’s about time you guys accept that both Hilary and Barack are both riding on a sea of money from all the organizations you propose to hate. They both have a HUGE debt to pay if and when they reach the WH. We live in a facist state and that means this place aint run by the President but by Exxon, Mobil, GE, etc, etc… I personally am working on a fuel derived from “hot blogger air” so as to turn this BS into something useful. I especially find you anti-Hilary ranters most akin to the Fox News type. As far as I can tell by this thread the real winner will John McCain and Fox. Keep it up loud mouths your doing a great job for the Ruppert and his boys I’m sure there reading this and having a great laugh.
Posted by: Over-media-ed | February 9, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Media is being prostitute they are getting money from Oprah and Obama campaign so they are kissing their butts.
Hillary will prevail;people of this nation is looking for a leadership not a motivational speaker. Hillary is the best leader who can succeed our nation in this tough time.
Hillary ’08!
Posted by: jmaya, iowa | February 9, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
jmaya, iowa
Would you please cite a specific example of how Obama is paying off the media for bias.
Not only me but the FCC and the electorate would be very much interested in money passing hands in such an arrangement.
If, on the other hand, you cannot prove your allegations, then you owe the Obama campaign and Opra Winfrey an apology.
BTW, this sort of random, unsubstantiated rumor-spreading on behalf of Hillary Clinton is EXACTLY the reason many of us find her unpalatable as a candidate.
Posted by: Kira | February 9, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Yo Amigos;Hillary No, Obama Si!
Posted by: Listen Up | February 9, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Look at the comment for what it was, totally inappropriate for a professional news reporter to use. I reiterate what has been said in the blog already. If this “pimp” comment had been used in reference to one of the Bush’s daughters, Michelle Obama or one of his daughters, there would be not only cries of outrage but the accusations of racism would be flying. Wake up people, the media is out of control at times. I see them foaming at the mouth when it comes to the Clintons, they can’t spew enough negativity about them with not one negative thing said about Obama and his campaign. Just wait, if he wins the dem nomination it’s gloves off time for the republicans and the media.
Posted by: Dee | February 9, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Well I can see Hillary still has a few supporters who back her on gender, and not about her issues!
Posted by: Listen Up | February 9, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
I am a supporter of neither of these candidates but am tired of how sexist comments, even if they are subtle, are treated as insignificant. If this was a comment that was interpreted as racist, there would cries for Chris Matthews and Shuster to be fired, just like Imus. Look how the only part of Imus’ statement that got the most attention was the racist part and not the sexist part. I used to like Matthews about 4 years ago until he became so patronizing and smug. His interview with Elizabeth Edwards was a perfect example of that.
People here are making negative comments about Hillary but are forgetting that this comment was directed at her daughter. It doesn’t matter how some of you and Shuster spin it, the word pimping was a derogatory comment, period. When Matthews and Shuster “apologize” they are not admitting that they should not say things like that, it is more like they were called on it and won’t say it again to save their jobs and the ratings. They still believe what they said and that to me, shows what kind of people they really are. Certainly not unbiased journalists. That is why I stopped watching MSNBC, NBC (due to Matt Lauer and the bunch), and CNN (I only watch Lou Dobbs) and even some public station programs like Charlie Rose. C-Span is about the only place left to get objective news. I hope they can stay that way.
Posted by: Noreen | February 9, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
They are only boycotting MSNBC, there are plenty of other media outlets to hold debate. I don’t agree with these corporate sponsored networks having the debates in the first place. So far Charlie Gibson has been the only moderator that I have seen that is fair. Even though I have seen the bias for Obama on ABC, especially on GMA. What happened to debates that were run by unbiased, non-partisan groups like the League of Women Voters?
Posted by: Noreen | February 9, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
In response to Eve:
I’m an African American male who believes of all people, you should know better, you are a woman, and it seems like you condone this sexist and prejudice jerks making these kind of statements to any woman, now I see why men have been allowed to degrade women this way for so many years, because some women like you allow them to. I believe it’s all-right to be challenged are even critized on this issues in an election, but not personal attack such as these, this is very un-American, heartless, gustless, shallow, and disgusting.
If this have been done to Obama’s wife or childern if they where old enough to campaign for their father, we would have a field day on that person and demand their resignation, this is very Hypocritical of people on support this kind garbbage.
since this campiagn started the media has been baised against Hillary not so much on her issues, but her personally because she is strong woman trying to break that glass ceiling that still neeeds to be shattered here in America, due to sexism and stupidity. She deserves to run and maybe become Presiden as well as a man, woman at one time could not even vote, they fought very for that right too, they are being trampled on for wanting to equal partners in our voting system, I see America still has a long way in becoming equal citizens in this country, and it’s other women like you who does not help matters any, you as a woman should be outraged at what was said no matter what party they belonged to.
As I stated in my first posting, the cable news stations needs to stop this female bashing, and sexist comments towards women in general, they are suppose to be there to report the news fair and balanced,without personal opinions or comments being expressed about person one way or the other, just report the news as it comes in; non-objective without making racist or sexist comments, their personal attacks, opinions about race or gender needs to be checked at the door, and left at home.
News stations and radio stations such as MSNBC, Fox News, CNN, Air America Radio, Etc, has all been guilty in some shape of form during this election has been biased when it comes to Obama and Hillary, so far Obama has had a free ride and pass in the campaign without being challenged on the issues, as opposed to Hillary who has been challenged every step of the way, of all things, Women should also be outraged at these male news anchors for attacking her the way they do, I thought women had a better eye at catching behaviors, actions,and sexist comments towards their own gender, but I guess not, when it comes to a election campaign; I see; even that’s game with both genders in this hotly contested election.
I Believe that just because a person is campaigning to when an election, they should not be subject to this kind of personal ridicul, it’s senseless, baseless, and shallow of people to be this way, we’re all are still Americans, life is to short to be carrying on like this.
We should all step back, take a deep breath, and put gender, race aside and pick a nominee, based on the issues, not race, gender, or who even speaks or looks the best, but has the most experince and ability from day one to get he job done, In my opinion, Hilly is the most experienced and quailfied produce the results needed to turn this country in the positive direction, Obama is only able to Preach about it, but Hilly, her experience, is able to put it into action.
I hope and Pray that the news media start being fair and balanced when comes to media coverage of bothe campaigns, so far, Obama is getting most of the media spotlight, not only because he may be so inspiring, but also because he’s a male, some men and women really don’t want a female President, lets face it, this is not American equality, but discrimination based on gender.
Where is Oprah now, she should have jumped all over this story, she’s supposed to be an advocate and spokesperson for women’s Rights, there she goes again remaining silent on very important issues that gives her the opportunity to speak-up and speak-out against gender bias, but I guess not, she might be afraid it may hurt her personal friend; Obama during the primeries. Oprah only speaks out for her personal friends and people in her inner circle, not for America as a whole, because she should have waited until a clear nominee have surfaced before endorsing a candidate, but instead, she came to the aid of her personal, for get about the campaign issues,and who had the most experience, the better campiagn platform to be President, Oprah only voted on the Preaching of Inspiration and Emotionalism of Hope, Change, Unity, and Obama’s Brillance, not on in-depth substance of the issues, what a shame, because it would had been more appreciated by all Democratic voters after the nominee was chosen to come out to unify and campaign to help the Democrats take control of the White House again; no matter who was chosen to be the nominee, Oprah say’s she like Hillary too, I can’t tell, because she endorsed a candidate before he or she was nominated, I don’t see where’s that being loyal to the party as a whole, what I see is her partiality towards race and gender.
Go Hillary Go In my book, you are the New “Clean-up Woman” because you are the candidate who has the most experience and know-how to cleanup Bush’s mess he will leave behind in 2009, and you are more qualified to make Obama’s message a reality with positive results, something that Obama is only able to preach about through Inspiration and Emotional Speechs, Therefore, this College Educated Young African American Male will be voting for Hillary for President of The Great United States of America.
Posted by: Darrell | February 9, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
i can not beleave that some of you are turning this into a white or black thing this i support clinton because of her universal health care plans which obama does not have
obama backed off nucular waste spillage bill that he himself wrote and then soften the penilty language because he is currently getting big money from one of the largest nucular plant owners in the country not to mention his book calls alot into question.now if you are looking for mistakes you can find them in either canidate.
but msnbc has insulted the clintons not once not twice but three times.if that had happen to obama his supporters would be doing the same as they are doing now calling race into question
but what has happened is apauling and msnbc should be ashamed of them selves
it is very clear who they support without question
Posted by: up in arms | February 9, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
I have liked the political discourse on MSNBC and have been watching Chris Matthews and even Tucker although I don’t agree with Tucker’s views. However, these broadcasts of their opinions is a privilege and with it responsibility. Both Chris Matthews and David Shuster have crossed a line and their credibility of any objectivity is gone. Tucker should address this as well as it having been on his show. Chelsea Clinton is an exemplary young accomplished woman who withstood quite a bit in her young life- and has handled it with dignity. She is a daughter supporting her mother. Anyone who claims family values knows this isn’t “pimping”. She isn’t “fair game” she’s not up for election. Who is David Shuster to disparage her and why? Keith Olberman had the guts and respect to put an apology out that was tough and heartfelt. I haven’t decided yet who I’m for but the bias now being shown by MSNBC indicates your information isn’t worth watching. Will Tucker or Chris Matthews attack the Obama kids? McCain’s kids? How about McCain’s mother, is she fair game now? You gonna dig through her past? Where is a line of objectivity in journalism here? I hope in the next debate Tim Russert or Keith Olberman raises this issue with the candidates to let them personally express how sickening the gotcha journalism has become.
Posted by: Bob Young | February 9, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
“Me thinks she doth protest too much.”
Posted by: Ronin | February 9, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Response to Sam:
Sometime I may repeat things in my postings, because I believe you have to repeat, repeat, repeat, and repeat until the truth sinks in. Tuff, if you don’t like it, move on to another post, it’s just that simple. I’m not a spammer, my post may be similar,but not worded exactly the same way, if you have read all my post, you would see this.
Go Hillary Go The New “Clean-Up Woman.”
Posted by: Darrel | February 9, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
I can see better now what american and FRENCH have in common: SHAMEFUL SEXISM. IT IS OK NOT TO LIKE HILLARY CLINTON BUT SHE SHOULD BE TREATED FAIRLY. What gives a journalist the right or the impression that he can air these kind of shameful and un-american comments after those made by Chris matthews? It is getting Nasty! There is something wrong going on! No wonder why women are still being abused and bad treated. FAIRNESS PLEASE! We are all the same. Dignity-france
Posted by: Dignity-france | February 9, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Let me think about it…what is worse…”pimping” or the meaning of “is”
PIMPING: Maybe a bad choice of words…it’s just slang now people. I don’t agree with it but slang none the less. It is just the truth. The Clintons are USING THEIR 28 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER TO BENEFIT HILLARY’S CAMPAIGN. They are making a very big deal about the use of slang (not against Chelsea) but against what they are actually doing.
THE MEANING OF IS: “I did not have sexual relations with that woman”, “What IS the meaning of IS”, Oral sex isn’t sexual intercourse; she was a 20 year old intern
Really the Clintons have no axe to grind here; not with their slimey, shady past.
Posted by: Pimping vs The Meaning Of "Is" | February 9, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
I can see better now what american and FRENCH have in common: SHAMEFUL SEXISM. IT IS OK NOT TO LIKE HILLARY CLINTON BUT SHE SHOULD BE TREATED FAIRLY. What gives a journalist the right or the impression that he can air these kind of shameful and un-american comments after those made by Chris matthews? It is getting Nasty! There is something wrong going on! No wonder why women are still being abused and bad treated. FAIRNESS PLEASE! We are all the same. Dignity-france
Posted by: Dignity-france | February 9, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Yeah, like what woman in this country or any other, for that matter, hasn’t had to deal with an unfaithful husband.
Truth be known, it would be like 98% of husbands have been unfaithful.
Hope Hillary is next president and we can put the nation in order again.
Posted by: P.Macke | February 9, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Even a blind person would be able to see how biased all the networks are, males and females they have the power to use a mic and they sure use it for their own opinions and motivations. We call ourselves a democratic and rich country.. Are we?. As a mother I would defend my child againts anything or anyone, obviously this correspondents have no children or wives. I am sure their mothers taugh them better than that,but then again when they go in front of the cameras they think they can get away with anything so here we are making sure that they dont forget that we all on this together and we will bring them back to earth.
Posted by: Bianka | February 9, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Is Chelsea a child or adult? If she is going to lobby for her mom and campaign she is fair game. And who cares if Hillary won’t debate. She is using her latest tactic to play the underdog to get more free press. I believe she is exploiting this topic for the same reason.
The Clintons have a track record of doing what it takes, dirty tricks, exploiting who and what they need to, in order to get elected.
While I don’t like the phrase, they are using their daughter to further their “legacy and perceived right” to this presidency.
If Chelsea can’t stand the heat, she should get out of the kitchen! Billary can’t have it both ways!
Posted by: Diane | February 9, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
This just another example of the extreme bias shown against Hillary Clinton in the media. This is not the only network, but this was over the top, he should not be allowed on TV.
Posted by: Diane | February 9, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Oh come on now! He didn’t realize the word “pimp” was offensive? If that’s true it’s a reflection of him and his loss of any sense of decency. I’ll bet he also doesn’t see how it is offensive to advertise erection drugs in prime time on national television either. We have lost our self respect. If we are the leaders of the free world, are we leading them to this? I don’t think they will follow.
Posted by: Rolando | February 9, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
How come no one is talking about what MSNBC’s Keith Olgerman said? Didn’t anyone catch the whole “pass the guacamole” statement referring to Gov. Richardson (of Mexican origin)? Now what if Imus had said this? Or better, what if they had done a clip with Barak Obama and said “pass the fried chicken and collargreens?”
Why is there always a double standard? You can mock Jews, Catholic Priests or the Virgin Mary, but don’t print any cartoons of Mohammed in a bad light. Why is it okay for Whites, Asians and Latinos to be made fun of, but not blacks? The media needs to start applying the same rules, universally. Enough of the hand picking which groups can be offended, and which can’t.
And (MS)NBC is 100 times further to the left than FOX is to the right. (MS)NBC is definitely the Obama network. It’s scary to see how a supposedly honest media could openly cheer on a certain candidate of their choice. What is wrong with this country? CNN and even FOX!!! are being more fair toward Hillary than (MS)NBC.
When is ABC going to come out with their own cable news channel?
Posted by: Vince | February 9, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
So helping her mother’s campaign is legitimately called “pimping” because it benefits her mother? Would helping your grandmother get the government benefits she is eligible for, pimping? After all it is a solicitation that benefits her.
Posted by: david | February 9, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Chris Matthews, David Shuster, and all those other news Anchors who are racist, gender, biased jerks, need to be fired, they have really gotten out of control, News anchors where very honorable back in the day, who only reported fair and balanced news,and reported the straight news as is, now all they do all day long is set-up and trash people instead reporting the news, without bias or spin, in the name of profits and ratings to help increase the Republican, not the Democratic agenda,So all fellow Democrats,Obama and Hillary Supporters, please don’t be caught off this time around during the Presidenial Election Season, because believe or not,the Republican party is working together with all the Corporate Media to keep control of the White House and regain control of both House of Congress.
Obama you will not escape their garbage if you become the Democratic nonimee, because they are really setting you up to be defeated by the Republican nominee, be on the look out, because the news media is owned by Corporate America, and Corporate America mostly is and favors the Republican Party,but right now, they are fatting you up for the slaughter, by first,by trying to get rid of Hillary,and if they succeed,which I seriously doubt it, they will began quickly grinding you up and slowly feeding you to the political dogs where at the end, John McCain is the only candidate standing to become President, so enjoy your temporary favorable free press by these baised, racial, gender, jerks while it last, because political horror is soon to come your way, your Inspirational and Emotional speeches of Hope, Change, and Unity movement will not be able to save you from this foreseeable Presidential bid lost.
Go Hillary!! Win, Win, Win, you’re The New “Clean-Up Woman”
Posted by: Darrell | February 9, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Free Speech ? If one were to hear some at a party ask whats’ the difference between a jew and a pizza and they answered that they didnt know and it was stated that the pizza does’nt scream when it is put into an oven.Should I make a citizens arrest at that point or wait for them to openly state that they miss hearing johnny weissmullers’ tarzan shout UNGAHWAH! at some restless hottentots?B.T.W the last original copies of “Blazing Saddles” are going fast.What does that indicate?
Posted by: What goes around... | February 9, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
It was a very hostile comment considering why shouldn’t candidates kids be out helping them get elected? Romneys did. Its a good addition to the campaign and helps voters get to know the entire family better. Its logical Chelsea should play the youth and celebrity venue as Hillary doesn’t really have a foothold in the younger “Obama” generation. I am sure Chelsea loves her mom and wants to help her and enjoys all the new people she is meeting and excitement of the campaing. The reporter demonized her efforts as if they are somehow bad, when in fact, they are good. I think he is ignorant and judgemental and distorting the news for his own, or editors/producers ends.
Posted by: Brian | February 9, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
First they didn’t want her to do anything afraid that the media would emabrress them. Then they let her out to call upon ‘celebraties’ to support ‘her mother’ and are astonsihed by a comment that otherwise could be taken in jest but nonetheless unprofessional. Double standards and hypocritical politicians are an embarressment, more so than the media. When will the tears fly again I wonder.
Posted by: Jack | February 9, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
According to the ladies on The View, they received surprising and somewhat awkward calls from Chelsea Clinton asking them to support her Mom. Of course, Chelsea has every right to campaign on her mother’s behalf. But, I think people are taking issue with the degree to which Hillary has relied upon her husband and daughter in this campaign. By many, she is not perceived so much as an individual candidate, but more as a Clinton package. Personally, I think it not a winning strategy for Hillary to deploy Bill to one state, Chelsea to another, and herself to yet another state in a tight race because voters need and want to hear her message from her, not her surrogates.
Though I think the media often unfairly offends the honor and dignity of public figures (be it Hillary or Barack), I also think it’s a little bit extreme for the Clinton campaign to throw such a “fit” over one anchor’s disrespectful remarks. An apology was issued immediately by the anchor and there is no reason for this story to remain in the headlines any longer.
Let’s stick to the issues and what truly matters for the future of our country.
Posted by: William | February 9, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Well, well. I see there are a lot of opinions and emotions here!
If you don’t want to watch MSNBC or if you don’t want to listen to certain pundits, one would think that is your right.
However, I see we’d like to go a bit further than that. I see that hyper-sensitivity and identity politics – as well as some protectionist/paternalistic chauvinism, thrown in from the prudish guys for good measure – like always, will take a backseat to common sense.
Let’s see. Might the term have been an unfortunate one? Perhaps. But it’s hard to find one of these younger people nowadays – you know, the ones that Clinton’s supporters tell us are naive and stupid – who would find it impossible to believe that “pimping” could have been used in a non-sexual way to denote usury of whatever stripe.
And Shuster’s e-mails with the Clinton’s press aide make it clear that the Clintons never intended to address the larger issue in the first place: The fact that the Clinton’s would like to use (yes, “use”) their All Grown-Up Daughter to pander for superdelegate votes, while insisting that she have some sort of special immunity from being interviewed by the press in the same way that any campaign operative – related or not – would be subject to.
Now the Clinton’s need – at least when it comes to themselves – to have EVERYTHING both ways, is fulfilled. Chelsea is just a little girl who can’t be “abused” by the press. Hey, I had more of a problem with the media commenting on her looks when she was young. But now she is 28 years old, and she is apparently grown enough to persuade virtual electors for the Democratic nominee, but not to be questioned by the press on that? The converse is a thirty-year old woman selling Girl Scout cookies. Kind of a weird double-bind to put someone in, wouldn’t you say?
But it’s not weird for the Clintons. Unsurprisingly, they have turned the issue around, and all the Royalists here – those who would fawn over the Clintons as if they were the sort of European monarchy they would apparently like us all to see them as – as well as some of the same Europeans who need offer us no lectures on the virtues of free speech – have spun the issue into not “respecting” The Apparent First Family’s Majesty. Well, my my. Chelsea was “dissed”. Sounds a bit like the sort of gangsta interpersonal dynamics whose wild popularity have led to the use of the term “pimping” into the mainstream and not so very sexualized slang that Shuster obviously intended it as.
What can be said is that the media messed up. But they shouldn’t be fired. When it comes to being able to manipulate the people as well as the politicians allow us to be manipulated, they are just trying to clumsily find the least unsubtle way to point out hypocrisy and entitlement on the part of elected officials. Unfortunately, they never figured on a conspiracy of mass stupidity, mass prudery and Clintonian entitlement to turn the issue back around on THEM. And the public will ultimately lose by allowing everyone to forget about the larger issue while the Clinton Family coasts through another victorious news cycle, the next primary and (if they get their way) four(+) more years of dumbing down the American public while they make everything about THEM once again.
You people deserve what you will inevitably get from such sanctimonious jerks as them if you can’t see through it.
Posted by: Zarathustra | February 9, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
I wonder why NBC cares if Hillary will not appear on the network? She does not own it, and if she choses not to appear that just hurts her own campaign. Can you imagine? Obama advertises, reaches those people, and Hillary just igores those voters?
I don’t think so. Full of hot air is my opinion. It is amazing to me that NBC is falling for it and giving Cliton her way. Censorship is not the right of a senator. When Chelsa agreed to start campaigning in a desperate attempt by her mother to get younger voters, what did she expect, the media would continue to ignore her? The media may have gone too far, but is that to be unexpected?
Posted by: SNS | February 9, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
There is no responsible reporting anymore. The media is so slanted and its disgusting how much they slant their headlines and news bias to ingratiate their corporate owners.
Matt Lauer had Ann Coulter on with her disgusting bias and trash mouth , bill oreily This is responsible reporting. Then we will be innundated with newt gingrich, and Tom Delay and their stupid discussions of their slant on the process. We know of their past indiscrestions and they set them up as truth doctors . Outrageous headlines abound. and enough is enough. TALK TRASH IS ALIVE AND WELL Follow the money folks of corporate news and you see the bigger picture. Look to who financially promoted George Bush .
Posted by: Carol | February 10, 2008, 7:31 am 7:31 am
Why is it so bad for the Clintons to have Bill and Chelsea go out and speak for Hilary, but not Obama? He uses his wife all over the coumtry. All the politicians use thier family. That does not make it right to attack the family members. Give me a break. This country’s standards have gone to the toilet. We have NO respect for our fellow human. They complain when Hilary says something about Obama, but Obama can say anything about Hilary. You can vote black if you are black, but you are white and vote white you are racist. I vote for the best candidate. Look at the issues NOT the trash talk. Enough!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Sue | February 10, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
Who cares. Also, wasn’t the comment accurate. What are they taking offense to the term “pimped”? So what, that’s what they were doing by engaging thier daughter. Then to say “she’s and we are off limits” is pure hypocracy. If you don’t want people to commenet on what she is doing don’t “use” her inthe process.
Posted by: jane | February 10, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
let me preempt this comment by saying how much I dislike HRC. with that out of the way, HRC is entitled to have whoever she wants, campaign on her behalf, specially her daughter. I would do it for my parents and be very proud of being able to contribute. Chelsea Clinton is a grown woman and she decides if she wants to speak on behalf of her mom. Do not smear Chelsea, she was a minor through most of her fathers administration, and in my view , has amnesty for anything good or bad her father or mother have done…
Posted by: Nestor in Miami | February 10, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
I don’t know what is more disturbing… the fact that “News” reporters are more interested in sounding hip than being accurate or the comments from viewers I read on these blogs.
It’s very scary
Posted by: Miche | February 10, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
It’s obvious that some of the Obama cult and Clinton haters here are not parents. If you mess with my child you will go down! That is true of all good parents. I have been listening to Randi Rhoads on Air America who confesses she will not go on MSNBC because Chris stares at her breast. She also tells of his womanizing that she has seen first hand. I belive her more so now. It’s becoming obvious that there is a lot of sexism happening there. I am boycotting all of NBC because of this. I will miss some of your shows, but the principal is more important. Stay stong Hillary!
Posted by: Bibi from Texas | February 11, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
You can’t have it both ways—and that’s what the Clinton’s want. I do agree as a parent that the minor children should be OFF LIMITS BUT Chelsea is an ADULT and has CHOSEN to put herself out there campaigning for mom. When you put yourself in that position, you have made yourself a public figure. If Chelsea had remained quite and not chosen to present herself in public situations campaigning for her mom, then it would be different. She’s either a private citizen or a public figure. She cannot act as a public figure but expect treatment and rights of a private citizen.
Posted by: Lvillecajun | February 11, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am
Nice, that she boycotts NBC on behalf of her 28 year old daughter. That’s natural. But she should rather oppose Fox, on behalf of her voters, because Fox discriminates all Dems on a regular basis even hourly. I don’t know how David Shuster is cultivating his language, but “pimped out” means great,awesome, super duper. “pimped” would have been the right sound bite, and means used or misused. Both though inherit from hooker and pimp language and are not too polite. And personally I would boycott Shuster, because of this silly, arrogant laugh at his own “joke” right afterwards.
Posted by: Mike | February 11, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Look Chelsea will be fine and so will Hillary and Bill. As far as Obama’s daughters are concerned, they are too young to be out campaigning for their Dad so that’s not even an issue. Hillary and Bill know how to play the game just as they did about claiming Hillary is broke. Look what she got in return, sympathy and a whole lot of money. As far as MSNBC, I don’t find them bias; quite frankly Fox News is the worst station on television. If we took a tally of the emails to see who’s all against MSNBC because of the comments about Clintons, then we’ll all realize that it’s just a race thing.
Get over and realize Barack is a better Candidate!!!!
Posted by: Gilda | February 11, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
Chelsea Clinton is a grown woman and a public figure by choice. Hillary Clinton is atempting to play the victim again
Posted by: Kevin McKinley | February 11, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
The sad part of all this is that Hillary is willing to subject her daughter to the same kind of political gamemanship-that she and Bill both understand and have readily used on others-espcially women. “Pimping” is a word Bill and Hillary have used around the house before-even the White House(imagine that)! It’s not a shocker to them-I can assure you of that. This time the whinning and the yelling at the press and the crying in public won’t work. The very people that they were counting on to give them a free ride and be their advocate-have jumped ship. It may be over for them…Who knows…but acting indignant about something that happens to them-that they would fell free to visit on others-no matter who…smacks of an elitism that would not serve well in the White House. Wah…Wah…Wah
Posted by: Mark | February 11, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
I Love Chris Mathews and David Shuster and was sorry to see him punished for a comment; people are much too sensitive these days; besides, one of Clinton’s selling points is that she is tough enough to take anything the Republicans throw her way; Whats up with that, if she can’t take this.
Posted by: Dianne Perry | February 11, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
Why the double standard? We are all humans, we make poorly thought out statements, we make mistakes.
If memory serves, I think Bill made one very large mistake then lied about it. Did he loose his job…
Yet this reporter makes a comment and his whole world comes tumbling down and it is use of slang is blown way out of proportion.
Go Team Hiliary…
Posted by: G | February 11, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Clinton is wrong, what a bunch of indignant wimps.
Posted by: q | February 12, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am
Funny how making phone calss and campaigning for your mother could be legitimated as “pimping” by Obama supports commenting here. If you ask the 5-13 year olds who are kidnapped and taken across state lines to be beaten and manipulated into having sex for food and shelter, I’m sure they’d be able to tell you if “pimping” is offensive. They have more common sense than the idots posting here. Obama supporters are very inteligent, huh?-
Posted by: C. Farnesworth | February 12, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
“Why the double standard? We are all humans, we make poorly thought out statements, we make mistakes.
If memory serves, I think Bill made one very large mistake then lied about it. Did he loose his job…
Yet this reporter makes a comment and his whole world comes tumbling down and it is use of slang is blown way out of proportion.
Go Team Hiliary…”
Yes he did, he was impeached, but not removed from office. Thats basically the same as loosing your job and still keeping your office.
Posted by: Stephen | February 12, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea what’s next? Are you ‘all going away quietly from the eyes, ears, and heads of the people of America. I suggest you become an ordinary American family. Join a neighbor support group aimed at helping needy children. Organize a community forum that helps women raising children on their own. Give some sincere time to helping the elderly folks. Create a group to help people learn what not to do when pursuing a public position. You know what I mean; just go away peacefully.
Posted by: Martha Ann | February 12, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
This is a sad day for Americans. Hillary Clinton’s daughter is old enough to make her own choices at 28. This is another tactic to make Clinton’s supporters to not see the truth. As for mothers please use reason about this. If you are a mother your do not ask your children to do your dirty work. Bill and Hillary are liars, law brakers, unfaithfull, cons, scammers, and white collar criminals. They charge the secret service to live on their property $10,000 a month. So much for helping the poor, social security, or any minority. If you actually think the Clintons care about you, you need some real help.
Posted by: Jamie | February 14, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
After Russert’s interview of Obama this morning, I vow to boycott NBC and GE in their entirety. How date the media seek to shape public opinion towards their candidate.
Posted by: Rob Stone | May 4, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am