Clinton Campaign: Hillary Better to Beat McCain

Um, Obama. On demographic measures he’ll do better amongst young people than Hillary would; that should make up for any lack of over-performance with white married women.
As for Obama being tough, he’s proved over the last few weeks he’s plenty tough. He played the race card almost as much as Hillary did, but nobody blamed him for it. He’s attacked her and Edwards ruthlessly but nobody notices.
That’s a compliment — he’s a teflon candidate, like Reagan. He’s got such a great smile on TV, that he can attack and have his team attack and attack and attack and everybody complains that he’s being too nice. Meanwhile, he’s attacking ya’. It’s awesome!
Moreover, it will take more GOP resources to attack Obama than it would to attack Hillary, giving us an advantage in down-ballot races.

A democratic candidate trying using a poll data from FOX…. that says a lot about the point (highly doubtable) they are making. In fact if one looks at the recent Gallup, Zogby, Russmusen and some more independent pollsters one would see Barak has a better margin of wining against Mccane than Clinton has. Oh, and I know why FOX poll data gives Clinton better advantage.. because FOX..aka Republican mouthpiece wants Clinton rather than Obama against Mccain so that their candidate has a better shot.

jed report, you forget the overwhelming difference in population numbers, especially voting numbers. white women vote a lot more than young people. and he’s riding the rock star wave right now, but young people notoriously find a new flavor of the month and move on. you are correct that he played the race card and got hillary blamed for it and successfully plays the media. but the media are helping him tremendously in this effort. once the general election starts, it will be just the opposite. he will get the treatment from the corporate-owned (republican) media that hillary is now getting. and hillary is one tough cookie and can win despite all that. obama is a babe in the woods. for his own political future, he’d better hope to not get the nomination this year. if he gets it and goes down in flames, he’ll never get another chance. fine with me if he never gets another chance, but – unlike obama – hillary can beat the repubs, and losing out on that is not fine with me.

The GOP will gave a field day if Hillary gets the nomination. Women (esp. older women) who may be voted for her just because she’s a women are selling this country short. It is time for REAL change. There is no way Hillary or Bill should be back in the White House. Also, people forget Bill never won a majority in both elections (43% 1991 election and 49% in 1995 election). Do we really need to reopen all the old scandals and wounds with yet another Clinton? PLEASE I URGE PEOPLE NOT TO VOTE FOR HILLARY she is NOT the best candidate for what we need right now.

OMG! This drives me crazy… I can’t believe people are actually buying this again. Bill and Hillary: we’ve had enough!
I really wish people would look at the real records, the scandals, the lies, the do anything to win attitude, and the simple fact that WE DON’T NEED 35+ YEARS of Bush or Clinton – we can do better!
The GOP will make it difficult if it’s Hillary Clinton against McCain. She is only strong with core democrats – helpful in primaries but deadly in general elections. WAKE UP AMERICA, WAKE UP WOMEN, WAKE UP EVERYONE! VOTE NO ON ANOTHER CLINTON! VOTE YES ON REAL CHANGE AND A NEW DIRECTION!

I’m a democrat and I will NOT vote for Hillary in the general – we’ve had enough already! Time to move on.

Obama is already set up for a repeat performance of 2004 elections. He was already rated as the most liberal senator. In the post 911, that is the ‘kiss of death’ to any politician. There is no way you can be a unifier if you are a complete liberal ( at least the republicans will state that clearly)
McCain will beat Barack on the area of national security. The only way to beat McCain is on the area of the economy and I am sorry to say this, Obama is yet to show thet he is a master in that area.
I heard a story that McCain’s group claimed that John McCain will not attack Obama for the general elections if Obama becomes the front runner. The big question is why did McCain’s camp make such comments at this time?
The only plausible reason is that they want Obama to win the primaries so that McCain will win the election by a landslide.
Barack has hurt himself by stating repeatedly that he opposed the Afhganistan war ( which the whole world supported). That gives him a zero.
Hillary on the other hand is well covered in this area.
Up Hillary ’08

TL – Are you kidding me? This is your spin. Look at the facts and then look at Hillary and Bill’s record of cheating, lying, getting impeached, and taking tons of $$ from PACs, Saudi Royal Family, etc. You are drinking the Clinton Kool-Aid. The GOP would love to run against the shameful Clintons.

Andy , you’re right – let’s put Clinton, who voted for the war and her husband that was impeached, back in the WH just because of Bush – good idea! If Clinton wasn’t such a slime Gore would have won and we wouldn’t have Bush to begin with.
Bill Clinton never won a MAJORITY of votes in 1991 and 1995 Nov elections. He lost the congress to the Republicans in the Mid-Term elections and then got impeached for lying under oath — WOW – what am great President!
Ugh!

There are new Clinton scandals to come. If Hillary is the Democratic nominee, Bill and Hillary Clinton’s link to unquestionable donations to the Clinton foundation will be exposed. Hillary supporters will look really stupid. When all the new scandals hit the fan, the Democratic advantage in this election will be greatly diminished. The Democratic party will blow this in the end.

I am so tired of hearing democrats say that they would not vote for Hillary in the general election. Hillary is my first choice, but if Obama get the nomination, I would vote for him. The democratic nominee will be Hillary or Obama, so if you don’t vote for the eventual winner between the two, you must want the republicans to win the Presidency. One more thing, according to the polls Hillary and Obama are basically tied when it comes to beating McCain. Go Hillary!

I think it is interesting how the candidates are spending their time in the days before super tuesday. Hillary is articulating her stance so that voters can make an itelligent decision. Obama is spending his with Oprah (the original Jerry Springer). I hope I don’t get branded as a racist because I question his lack of judgement!

Penn’s letter is merely the Clinton camp’s opinion. This older female voter is not in that camp so count me out on their expectations or assumptions. I have concerns about Obama so am still reading carefully to make up my own mind. Endorsements and media stars sway me not!

Hillary will not get the votes of the new voters, Independents, or loyal Democrat Hillary haters. Never mind the fact that the Republicans will tear apart Hillary and Bill Clinton. Obama has a broad base of support including young voters, Independents, and moderate Republicans. If there was more than the benign Rezko thing to throw at him ,the Clinton campaign would already have thrown it. Obama is by far the best(and only) candidate to beat the Republicans.

I’m a small-l libertarian swing voter. I’m supporting Obama. My second choice is McCain. I won’t vote for Clinton.

Wow, all I can say is, I saw Bill Clinton speak at Kennesaw University in Georgia last night and after hearing all of what he had to say, Hillary is the real deal. Bill laid it down! Hillary has some amazing plans as Bill covered in great detail for just how she will fix what’s broken in America. There is no one who cares more or wants to fix the mess Bush made for us all quite like Hillary does. The rest all talk about what a disaster Bush is, but Hillary’s plans go way beyond the talk, I am now thoroughly convinced she can and will get it all done. Among the topics were eliminating huge tax cuts for the wealthy and oil companies, then putting that money into education and health care instead. Green collar jobs that will save the planet and create whole new industries and jobs where there once were none. Taking tax credits AWAY from companies that ship American jobs overseas and flipping those same credits back to American companies that KEEP and create jobs in the USA instead! Freezing in low interest rates on mortgage loans that were unethically raised on those who normally pay their bills but are now being threatened by their banks. Making quality health care affordable and available to ALL Americans while saving millions of dollars in the process through improved innovations to the health care industry and system itself. Getting us OUT of Iraq starting immediately after a 60 day Military evaluation starting Hillary’s first day in office. Troop with drawls, not just a bunch of talk, she will do ALL of this and so much more. If you want REAL substantial change to stabilize and grow our economy, save the environment, make education cheaper and even FREE in some cases, and so much more, health care for EVERYONE, you vote for Hillary and don’t look back, because these are the kinds of changes this woman whole heartedly believes in. Hillary is no question the one you can bank on with confidence. After seeing Bill speak last night I have also come to realize the media, CNN, MSNBC, all of them are nothing more that exploitive, tabloid, trash organizations who do NOT care about America or cover the issues adequately at all. The next time you hear these bogus flame headlines made to spark you to react and trash the candidates, just turn the channel, they are all worthless, soulless, salesman scraping for trash stories just for the ratings. Please listen to what Hillary and Bill too actually have to say, you will NOT be disappointed no matter who you are normally for. The place was packed last night for a reason, because when Bill speaks it is really worth listening to and because people want to hear what Hillary is all about. The people in attendance were seriously impressed based on their resounding applause, screams and responses, but refreshingly not by a string of promises and cheer leading, but by the straight up content of what Bill had to say about Hillary’s plan. It was all REALLY good stuff. I brought a friend who is Independent with me, and she changed her mind not only about Bill and the Clintons last night, but who she is now voting for! It was THAT good. Turn off trash news CNN, and please just listen to what Hillary is offering, you will NOT be disappointed. Hillary has my vote, all the way!

Why would anyone vote for Hillary? She won’t admit that she made a mistake by voting for the war. At least John Edwards had the integrity to admit he was wrong. Hillary just blames everything on George Bush. I want a President that will be accountable for their actions…Bill Clinton wasn’t and neither is Hillary. At least with Bill we found out after we elected him. I wouldn’t vote for Hillary knowing what I know about her. She has no integrity!

Hillary is the best to go up against McCain as he has flip flopped more on the war and the bush tax cuts that anyone else. Hillary was for the war and this shows she is strong on dealing with terrorist. The republicans can’t say she is weak on this subject like Obama. Also all the liberal democrats are now behind guess who OBAMA. ( KENEDY KERRY DEAN AND GORE) SO the liberal candidate of the party is OBAMA. Hillary will carry all the big states and should be the nominee. She will carry NEW YORK in the elction something OBAMA will not. HILLARY is choice of the moderate and therefore more electable than OBAMA who is the old boys candidate. What did he trade to get Kennedy endoresement..and how much money is Oprah giving him and what does he owe her…interesting topics for the republicans don’t you think

I think Hillary can win over the Republicans in Nov…that is if the Republican candidate is Huckabee. Otherwise she has no chance…Obama appeals to a much larger base of voters. He would win over McCain or Romney. Mark Penn can make up whatever he wants…he’s wrong.

Obama might have been voted the most liberal democrat – but are the issues he was voted that on actually issues also important to Reps? That’s the key thing. Further, Clinton is more antagonistically partisan, while Obama talks of transcending that, not just having yes men around him and fully exploring the issues surrounding any given topic. Like it or not – polarizations are likely to lead to deficient decisions – so it is important to listen to everybody and work towards compromise that works for everybody. Whatever Obama’s stances, this counts for a lot. Further, you are so focused on this REP/DEM distinction and have cast such erroneous stereotypes around that you forget you are all people and there are issues that all people can agree on as the common good for America.

Yes, interesting that a number of people who once believed in Bill Clinton, when he was new on the scene, are now backing Obama instead and that some people who previously worked with the Clinton’s have come out in public to say that in no circumstances should Hillary be allowed anywhere near the White House. How is that for a vote of confidence eh?

Hillary can not only beat John McCain but her plans mop up the floor with McCain’s plans. He has nothing in comparison to offer but his smile and his POW record. The fact John McCain was a POW is a VERY honorable thing, but this is not a contest to see who the most honorable POW is, this is a contest for the job of President of the United States. I welcome a campaign between Hillary and McCain, because Hillary has SO VERY MUCH more to offer. When you take the time to really look at what these two have to offer and compare them side by side on the issues facing America, McCain is so much like Bush and Hillary is the anti Bush, it’s a no brainer unless of course, you have NO BRAINS! Hillary all the way!

For all the people dawdling over the details between Obama’s healthcare plan or hillary’s plan, I have news: She can make all the great plans she wants, but she’ll need Congress to pass them. More precisely, she’ll need a bigger majority in the Senate to do absolutely anything. The coat tails issue is the sleeper story that no one is thinking about yet. The media chatters about style, snubs, electability. What real matters is who can actually move legislation, and I am astounded that it has no been addressed by anyone.
This is why red state democrats, like the governor of Kansas, very much want Obama, who could bring a bigger sweep of
Democrats into power for a couple reasons: he mobilizes new voters, he is popular among independents, and he won’t
mobilize the GOP like Hillary would. The GOP is already gearing up for another round of culture wars, and the Clintons are the main lightning rod. Hillary would without a doubt “GOTV”, but on the GOP side, dampening Democratic victories downticket, including the Senate.
The difference between the candidates may matter less than the difference between a 51 majority in the senate and a 56
majority. A slim majority in the senate will kill any hopes of health care. The bottom line is that health care just won’t happen with 51 votes in the Senate. Hillary Clinton can have all the great plans she wants, but she will never carry a red state. She will get all the blue, get enough swing states, but this won’t make a big enough mandate. The result will be a slim majority and an inability to pass anything substantial. The Clintons could very well win the presidency but it would either not gain in the Congress or conceivably lose it (like they did in 1994). The result: no healthcare, no education funding, no environmental regulations, nothing. Just like 1992-2000.
Please raise the coattails issue. Nobody is talking about. I know it’s not sexy, but it’s probably far more crucial than most of what the media chatters about.

It’s really quite simple—HILLARY IS THE ONLY PERSON IN AMERICA WHO CAN UNITE THE CONSERVATIVE RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN BASE BEHIND MCCAIN
THEREFORE, OBAMA IS MUCH MORE LIKELY TO WIN IN NOVEMBER

Reality check: Obama has been out of law school for 15 years; for part of those 15 years he worked as an associate in a law firm and a law school professor; he ten spent 8 years in the State Senate and 2 years in the US Senate before jumping into this race. What trials and tribulations has he experienced in his life that will help us understand how he and his family will react to the full force of the republican mean machine?
I was leaning to Obama until the LA debate and when I realized that his “new style of politics” isn’t new at all — in all of his stump speeches he makes negative attacks on Clinton but doesn’t really tell us what he’s going to do to change things. So he talks a good game, but even in this campaign he’s not following through on his talk.
So this swing voter has swung to Hillary this week – despite the fact that everyone in the media seems to want to convince me to vote for Obama — where are Walter Cronkrite and the real objective newspeople when we need them!

Obama is the only one this country needs……We don’t need OLD politics in the White House or any more scandles in our White House with Bill…….
Hillary has no more experience then Obama on the first day…..Hillary has never Run anything and she was a past President either!!!!
Go Obama

Obama is the better candidate in a match-up with McCain.
McCain looks good for his age, but next to Obama he just looks old while Obama looks young and energetic. That reminds voters to consider how stressful the job is – even the younger Presidents look more than four years older after one term.
McCain defends Roberts and Alioto – judges appointed by a President with appallingly low approval ratings. We want a clear break with the past, not a continuation of it. Obama’s clearly more of a break than Clinton.
Clinton and McCain both have issues with their short tempers, and sooner or later that’s going to break through and turn off voters in general. Obama can joke about his ‘pen-pal’ McCain, and people laugh.
But you know what I think is the most telling point? McCain admits he’s computer illiterate and leaves that to his wife. If he won’t keep up with basic new technology, why should we think he’s going to keep up with anything else? And which of the Democrats is going to highlight this difference more? Obama, because of his work on high-tech bills. Would McCain have even thought of a database of federal spending, open and free to the general public? Would Clinton?

It’s really simple. Both would be good Presidents, BUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS SPLINTERED BECAUSE CONSERVATIVES DISTRUST MCCAIN.
HILLARY IS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE COUNTRY WHO CAN UNITE THE CONSERVATIVE RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN BASE BEHIND MCCAIN
THUS, OBAMA IS MUCH MORE LIKELY TO DEFEAT MCCAIN IN NOVEMBER!!!!

CHANGE, UNITER, WASHINGTON INSIDERS, GOING FORWARD, CHANGE FOR THE FUTURE – remember these catch words? About 8 years ago, the same message, a person with a similar background, put on the same song and dance act. George “W” was a man of little accomplishment, drugs/drinking problem, little/no experience, lacking knowledge, no military experience (AWOL), understanding of world affairs did not exist, and was great at dirty politics. The only major difference between the two, Obama has a better song and dance act. If you want another Bush – please vote for Obama.

I just wander why Mr.Obama was so luck,He don’t has any managment experience,but He got so many people
support.if voter never think about who more qualify for president,then more than thousands people will be ok for president.very, very simple,why so many people made so complicated,of course, only Hillary qualify president 2008!!think about this country and everybody self, don’t take personal.

I couldn’t agree more with Mr. Penn’s assessment of the two candidates. Obama is articulate and has a nice smile but Hillary Clinton has a 35 year history of standing up for women and families in this country. Her plans to pull us back into economic prosperity and elevate the working class are specific, not just talk.
She was the first to advocate for health coverage for all Americans…let’s hope this time around she has a Democratic legislature to help her succeed. She has been a force to be reckoned with on the Armed Services Committee and has worked on a bipartisan basis to secure help for veterans coming back from Iraq.
The Republicans are scared to death of her because she is so smart and has the ability to defeat them. If Obama gets the nomination, I fear the Republicans will squish him like a bug.
Wake up, America. All those liberals endorsing Obama are looking for cabinet positions…don’t you know he will owe them big time if he gets the nomination?

ABC is Campaigning for hillary!!!!!!

Obama all the way baby! Dump Hillary and McCain. They are both Washington sellouts! Time for a real change America!

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama weren’t asked at last night’s Los Angeles debate about the National Journal ratings that came out yesterday which concluded that Obama was the Senate’s most liberal member in 2007 and that Clinton was the sixteenth most liberal.
Nevertheless, calling a Democrat a tax-and-spend liberal and saying he or she is the most liberal member of the Senate are two entirely different things, especially in a Senate containing Sen. Edward Kennedy, who earlier this week endorsed Obama.
If Obama eventually wins the nomination, it’s easy to imagine that comparison being made in Republican ads by some narrator with a baritone voice striking an ominous tone. “Did you know that an important, non-partisan news publication said Obama was more liberal than Ted Kennedy?”
Endorsed by Moveon
Liberal has become such an epithet in American politics that Republicans will be place it in heavy rotation. It is so radioactive that the candidates last night didn’t apply the word liberal to themselves and between them only uttered the word once when Clinton used it in an aside.
The risk for Obama is significant, especially if Sen. John McCain turns out to be the Republican nominee.
McCain still appeals to many independents and some Democrats because he’s not viewed as a doctrinaire conservative. He has shown a willingness to break with his party, on immigration and on campaign-finance reform, for instance.
While McCain didn’t vote enough in 2007 to be scored by National Journal, his 2006 score was 56.8. His lifetime conservative score is more like 71.8.
This suggests it would be theoretically easier for him to move to the center because he would have viewer votes to disown than it would be Obama whose 2007 liberal score was 95.5.
Meanwhile, Sen. Clinton’s 2007 liberal score was 82.8 which would seem to make it easier for her than Obama to move to the middle.
HILLARY IS MORE ELECTABLE

I believe that if we Democrats are foolish enough to nominate Senator Obama for president, there will be a landslide victory for the Republicans in November, similar to President Nixon’s 49 state win over the ultra liberal George McGovern in 1972.

A vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote for President McCain.
Dems have such short memories, but repubs never forget.
Anyone else remember another NE Senator named John Kerry? If Hillary becomes the nominee, she will go down in flames just like him. More so, as her negative are in the galactic range.

mccain has admitted he is not an economic master, and by the time november rolls around, the economy could very well be a lot worse……Senator Clinton clearly outshines Senator Obama in this area, both in substance and experience (with Bill’s help, whose Admistration created 22 million jobs, in case those anti-Americans in the audience selectively deleted that from their minds) and she will summarily outshine, out-debate and frankly, make Senator McCain look kind stupid as she runs intellectual circles around him……for the best interests of our children and our soldiers and our Nation in general, Senator Clinton is our best choice

IN 1992 – 2000 WERE YOU BETTER OFF THEN, THAN YOU ARE NOW? Democrats have the weapon to win this year. The republicans have no defense. Obama had no part of this prosperious time in our countries history, as he was busy with his pharmaceutical problem. This is why the republicans are fearful and have done everything possible to hide the facts and the news media has given Obama a free ride. You can bet Obama’s record will be “front and center”, if he is nominated, and any hope of a democratic victory is lost! A vote for Obama is a vote for the republicans.

Obama is not tough enough. He may be in the future, but not yet. So he gave a speech in 2002 against the war. He criticizes anyone who was duped into the U.S. getting into Iraq. What is he psychic? Come on, already. Obama simply
lucked out on the Iraq War and he’s milking it for all its worth. He doesn’t have the same level of experience as Hillary Clinton; that’s a no brainer-his 2 yrs. as senator to her 7 yrs. She did plenty for Arkansas and has the knowledge to get a national healthcare plan moving for the millions and millions of Americans will no coverage or undercoverage of insurance. She will push for education reform that will blow away that ridiculous NCLB. Onc thing she will not do: get the U.S. involved in another pre-emptive war. She’s one tough, intelligent, determined woman who will make an outstanding president.

Oh, and the couple dollars he’s raised ($32,000,000 he raised last month ALONE!) might help too!

Don’t be surprised if John endorses Hillary after Super Tuesday. Like John, she is a bed-rock Democrat to the core. Obama is a Obamacan Republican. It’s time for disappointed Edwards people who lean toward Obama to cash in their 5 cent can of hope and get informed about his politics: The Audiology of Hope
Compromising with Republicans, as Obama is too willing to do if he is president, will be just another crushing boot on the neck of lunch bucket working class Democrats who John and Hillary champion. Glenn Greenwald explains it: What “bipartisanship” in Washington means

Penn makes some good points, but the weakness in his argument–probably a fatal weakness–is a miscalculation regarding independents. John McCain is winning because of his run to the middle where the independents are. He has, e.g., Lieberman at his side. Independents, by definition, pride themselves on an unswerving focus on “what’s best for the country” versus party “leanings”. The winning candidate will not only need leaning or sympathetic independents, she or he will need energized and motivated independents. The South Carolina primary results indicate not only Obama’s ability to energize but, almost more importantly Clinton’s LACK of ability to do so. A Clinton McCain contest will mirror Kerry Bush, with a firewall for the Republican in the South. Obama could neutralize that by taking states like Louisiana and Georgia. The “vetting” argument also must be balanced, and ultimately defeated by the idea of “movement,” namely that attacks on Obama will also have to defeat the belief that it is “time” for significant change in not only leadership but approach. Obama is the MUCH stronger candidate against McCain. McCain would defeat Clinton.

Reality check: Obama has been out of law school for 15 years; for part of those 15 years he worked as an associate in a law firm and a law school professor; he ten spent 8 years in the State Senate and 2 years in the US Senate before jumping into this race. What trials and tribulations has he experienced in his life that will help us understand how he and his family will react to the full force of the republican mean machine?
I was leaning to Obama until the LA debate and when I realized that his “new style of politics” isn’t new at all — in all of his stump speeches he makes negative attacks on Clinton but doesn’t really tell us what he’s going to do to change things. So he talks a good game, but even in this campaign he’s not following through on his talk.
So this swing voter has swung to Hillary this week – despite the fact that everyone in the media seems to want to convince me to vote for Obama — where are Walter Cronkrite and the real objective newspeople when we need them!

whether you like her or not, Hillary is the most qualified person to be the next president. She has well thought out proposals and she is bringing solutions to the table for discusion. She actually has done the research and understands the various options. Granted that many folks may not agree with her propsals…at least she is bringing them up for discussion. Obama continues to talk at such a high level…using clever sound bytes, but has not been able to articulate any detail to provided substance to his proposal that would enable a dialog. Obama has made negative comments toward opponents when he allegedly is supposed to be running a positive campaign. Say what you will about Hillary. She does have the strength, qualification, skills, intelligence, knowledge, and hands on experience working with republicans and democrats to make progress for a better america. You may not like her personality or tone of voice. If you can look past all that and make a rational, objective evaluation…then you an see why she is the best candidate. I have no affiliation with her campaign. I’m in the camp that is not sure about her personality or tone of voice. I have trained myself to look past that and “tune into” the message and content. I’ve attempted to do the same with Obama…but the sad news is…he doesn’t provide anything other than “sound bytes” so he is either unwilling or unprepared to provide us similar level of detail. I won’t always agree with a president on everything. I do believe that Hillary has good intentions to serve the amerian people and will do a great job. its taken me a while to reach this conclusion because I was initially influced by the slick, smooth Obama cheer leading sessions. However, I’ve gotten past the surface and dug down to the next layer and discovered that layer to be empty. Where as Hillary is very deep and well thought out.

Own it Hillary. You voted for war. You need character, though, to admit to it. And when will you find that “voice”?

His memo is not entirely misleading. People haven’t quite made up their mind about Obama one way or the other the way they have about Hillary.
On the other hand, the more they learn about him, the more they tend to like him, not vice versa. In the last 2 months he has gone from being a second tier candidate to a plausible front-runner to be reckoned with. His poll numbers continue to climb and contrary to what Clinton’s campaign advisor suggests, he has nearly reached McCain in the polling, coming within half a point in January, while Clinton remains a further 2 points behind. Clinton’s adviser suggests that this is within the margin of error and that statistically they are indistinguishable. This would be true if it were a single poll, but when this discrepancy remains after averaging over 10 polls taken by different organizations, the results become harder to dismiss.
His analysis of independents, women, and latinos is misleading too. If this was the case, they would already be “factored in” to Hillary’s current polling numbers. Since Barack’s immigration reform (for example) is essentially the same as Hillary’s, wouldn’t the Latino crowd be just as likely to support him should he receive the party’s endorsement?
One could argue that Barack’s 2 point lead over Hillary (against McCain) is statistically insignificant, but it would be a stretch to argue the opposite… that Hillary is actually more electable.

Mark Penn’s insights are blinding. Hillary is the most electable because she has experience! That’ll show McCain! The Dems will whup a longtime Senate leader with decades of foreign policy and military experience by nominating a political wife who was a cattle-futures-playing lawyer in Arkansas! Geez, I can’t believe Mark Penn actually gets paid.

Hillary Clinton is the best for AMERICAN people now. If you want the american economy to plunge deeper to recession — go ahead for obama…
With the two, it is only Hillary that give more specifics on what she is going to do. While, obama purely depends on his charismatic talkings.
I rather vote for someone with clear vision for the american people than someone who just ride on “change, we can”…HILLARY CLINTON for PRESIDENT….

First of all, everyone is afraid of the Republicans attacking the Democrats, but they really have nothing to attack, and they themselves have nothing to offer besides bullying.
And on the economy: I’ve heard all my life that being conservative is better for the economy, but think about how these conservatives actually handle the economy – for the most part terribly. Where they got this reputation for being economically more prudent than the “tax and spend” liberals is beyond me. All I’ve seen from them is tax breaks for the wealthy while the middle and lower classes economically freeze or dwindle. And the money they are willing to spend on war, defense research and corporations is unprecedented while poorer people are ironically given more bureacracy to deal with.

I appreciate the enthusiasm and support for Senator
Obama, but I have the added responsibility of choosing
the right candidate for my son’s future.
Experience is not a bad word, everyone who works in
Washington, D.C. is not a crook or corrupt and Senator
Clinton is definitely not “more of the same”.
I have faith in Senator Clinton, but more importantly,
I trust Senator Clinton to immediately address the
urgent problems we are facing, and to turn America
around so that my son will grow up in a greater Nation
than one we have now.
For the greater good of America, our soldiers and my
son, I would very much like to see Senator Obama as
the Vice Presidential nominee alongside Senator
Clinton as the Presidential nominee. Such a pairing
would undoubtedly be successful in November, and such
an Administration would do wonders for America, and
for the world, for at least the next 16 years.

I was against the vote authorizing military force against Iraq also. I publicly stated that position many many times, and I was right. I like Senator Obama held no office at the time with gave me the duty, authority, or risk of actually making that decision. The fact that I was right may qualify me to be the next President. So here I am, vote for me, I will just keep repeating my stand against the Iraq War from the beginning and that should be sufficient to convince you that I have good judgment on every problem facing this country from rebuilding the infrastructure, providing water for the southwest (which is in a drought which will probably last in the 100s of years), deal will the effects of global warming, etc etc. Thank you, I am ready to lead.

OBAMA WAS WRONG TO PLAY THE RACE CARD.IM VOTING FOR SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON.

Bush is divisive. Hillary is divisive. Not convinced, check her negatives. The country can not stand another Bush or Clinton. While Obama has not proved to me he would be a real change, a zebra can’t change her stripes. Clinton only started claiming she was the change candidate after Obama started doing so well. She supported the war and then wanted to get out – funny, it mirrored the country’s feelings not her own position. Typical Clinton tactics. The simple fact is that McCain and Obama have appeal outside of their parties. They, therefore, represent the best hope for the country in coming together again.

Look at Obama’s lack of back bone standing up to the nuclear group in his home state. How can anyone say he would stand up for other issues such as healthcare. The only “change” he made regarding nuclear plants reporting leaks was to his originally submitted legislation. Obama may give a good speach but he is not a leader with any proven record. Wake up America and look at his real record!

Of course the Clinton camp says it will win. It says everything it thinks you want to hear to get her to vote for you. Hillary has already shown what a FINK she is by lying to the early primary states about Florida. First she tells them it won’t count, then after they vote, she tells them she will try to make them count.
She will do anything and say anything for power. don’t believe her. Remember when Bill was running, how everything was Hillary’s fault? Don’t be fooled again.

Some people don’t understand why the media is so for Obama. It’s simple, they like to build someone up so they can tear them down. Just think of the stories they can come up with later on. They have already torn into Hillary and thrown the carcas out!

Do you people realize how many scandals the Clintons have been involved in over the course of their lives? But that all gets swept under the carpet if your a liberal. Because if it for the “right reasons” it’s ok. Billary are nothing but crooks that tell the uninformed what they want to hear. Wake up and read a little. Anyone who thinks a socialist is going to turn this country around is living in denial or ignorance. This is a free market society and will be torn apart with your social services for the poor and lazy. Why is it so hard for people to take care of their own lives. Stop waiting for the government to take of you. The polictians ruin everything the touch. Can’t think of a single gov’t run program that is successful. So why on earth would you vote for a candidate that pushes socialist plans? JOHN MCCAIN IS THE ONLY SENATOR THAT HAS NEVER HAD A EARMARK OF PORK ON HIS RECORD. That is the kind of politician this country needs.

I know exactly what Mark Penn is talking about. Google “Larry Sinclair”

How is it that Hillary supporters honestly beleive that she has a real chance to win? I mean, I guess she looks like a great candidate amongs democrats, because they have an unhealthy lust for all things Clinton. Nobody else does. With the Clintons it’s all or nothing. It’s either insatiable attraction to the Clintons or sheer contempt. The only time a Clitnon is going to win a majority now is only among democrats themselves. Most people find the thought of another Clinton a sick proposal at best. Still, nothing will tear the nation apart more than the Clintons. I won’t fight for Obama, but I will fight against the nasty Clintons. They are disgusting, power hungry, dysfunctional, evil, democrats. Obama is a socialist democrat, but not the psycopath that either of the Clintons are.

Clinton will bring back honor and dignity to the oval office. She is the definition of ‘is’! Go Hillary and Bill!

Hillary’s “experience” mantra isn’t going to hold up well against McCain, who has held elective office much longer than she has (even if you consider the somewhat dubious proposition that her years in the Clinton White House are equivalent to experience in elected office), not to mention his military experience. It seems that the Clinton campaign either doesn’t understand or doesn’t want to acknowledge that experience can be a negative, depending on what the experience has been and what the electorate expects from experienced politicians.

It is sad but not surprising as I read all these opinions, that the Republican “machine” is so adept at spewing out hate—-reminds me of many of the speeches made by Hitler on display in the Holocaust museum. The views from Democrats seemed far less emotional, more reflective and based on sound reasoning. When will you right wing Republicans realize that life is not solely “black” or “white”, but contains many shades of “gray”? Maybe those “gray” shades are too difficult for you to deal with, so it is easier to espouse a strategy of avoidance rather than deal with them. Yes, Rob-Is-Right–you are a classic example.

HILLARY is a better candidate (PERIOD).
Obama has no plans for this country; it is rhetoric. His one plan for health care is disasterous; 15 million uninsured!!!!! Look at Chicago hospitals before you vote.

I being a democrate have come to realize at this time neither of our candidates will win in November. The republican’s will take the whitehouse despite all these stupid polls. Obama has already gone too to the far left with Moveon.org, kennedy’s and other liberal backers. No real liberal democrate has won POTUS in years. A majority of moderate democrates have or all ready will side with the republicans given a Obama-McCain candidacy. And Hillary is just trashed by the media over and over again, and the independants have just been to brainwashed to come back to the base. COme the national election Obama will not be the media darling for reality will set in to the media.

We have seen Hillary and Obama debate. We have seen how Hillary has done her homework—she is on top of current events happening, and she has thought-out what she wants to do for America, including HOW she will go about it. Obama has offered no concrete plan, because he knows if he does, he will be criticized. Instead, Obama aligns himself with what Hillary has said all along, except for healthcare and when he would bring the troops home. Obama rambles and stutters and makes no sense when he tries to make a point in a debate. Hillary thinks on her feet, is clear and specific and concise, is able to get her message across to the audience, and can handle any criticism from ANYBODY…. and is gracious, above all.
Obama would not be able to debate ANY republican candidate and will cost us the opportunity for the White House. Watch the Democratic debates if you want to judge for yourself. Geez, don’t take MY word for it….educate yourselves!!!

Obama Is NOT the Answer
Even if Obama did become President, he would still have the same issues we have today that he refuses to fix. That being his refusal to support impeachment, his refusal to get the truth on 911, his refusal to end the War in Iraq.
He doesn’t want to have tit for tat anamosity in his coronation walk up Pennsylvania Ave. But I say what good is it?
His victory will look as being that Americans have stamped out racism by voting for a black President, while the majority of Congress and the Senate are only 43 black or African-Americans serving in the 110th Congress out of 435 members, while only himself being the only black US Senator of 100 members?
This is quite astonishing when there are so few Black Americans serving in Government today! And so the election is becoming a test to America’s resolve in conquering racism, by voting for a Black President? And if that is the case, isn’t that itself racism? If we can’t elect more black Congress members and more than 1 Black Senator, how does that amount to anything of concern to the real problems in racism verses the real other issues in front of us.
How does racism come before ending the war, investigating 911, and bringing justice to the War crimes of Bush and Cheney through the process of impeachment?
He wrongly believes:
*Paying more at Wal-Mart is worth it for having US jobs. Yet he doesn’t like China, where all the goods come from to Walmart: he says:
Europe & Japan are allies, but China is a competitor, Insist on labor and human rights standards for China trade. Bring China to the mat for the currency barb.
*Grow size of military to maintain rotation schedules
*Voted YES on implementing the 9/11 Commission report
*Voted YES on reauthorizing the PATRIOT Act
*Voted YES on $47B for military by repealing capital gains tax cut
*Hopes to remove all troops from Iraq by 2013, but no pledge.
“He’s a flip flopper”
*Invading Iraq was a bad strategic blunder, but says:
*Military action in Pakistan if we have actionable intel
*FactCheck: Yes, Obama said invade Pakistan to get al Qaeda
*Iran with nuclear weapons is a profound security threat
*Explore nuclear power as part of alternative energy mix, which also means supporting the Depleted Uranium Industry, yet denies Iran the same.
*Extend welfare and Medicaid to illegal immigrants
*Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security
*Real estate deal with felon was “boneheaded” but ethical
*Ok to expose 6-year-olds to gay couples; they know already
yet says: All kids should learn about sexual abuse.
Whatever his ambitions he is going no where until this Iraq War is ended and we are out of Iraq, and Afghanistan. His anti impeachment stance is indicative of his War theme, which is nothing more than a Black Bush in the White House.
I don’t think Americans want another Colin Powell rerun.
We can go on about our choices toward awarding the office to a Black verses a woman, but wouldn’t it solve the problem if we all voted for Oprah?
We are talking about a monumental realization that Obama an unchartered rookie 3 year Senator with no political establishment is going to step in after a major attack on the USA, that killed thousands of Americans, with his fresh administration that even lacks people support in Congress and the Senate and feel safe about the direction and attitude of the nation?
We have Hillary who does have experience since being with her husband for the 2 terms they served, and that institution is still intact waiting to be primed and retuned for the shift.
I think if we are to have a change of President it would make more sense at this time for Hillary. Now I want to be clear that Hillary has yet to come out in support of Impeachment either, and shows more of a willingness to end war, than Obama. Hillary does not mention invading Pakistan, and I would think she would not.
*Absolutely oppose the war in Iraq. (Oct 2007)
*Bring out as many combat troops as quickly as possible. (Oct 2007)
*Goal to remove all troops from Iraq by 2013, but no pledge If Bush doesn’t end Iraq war, when I’m president, I will. (Mar 2007)
*Require Bush to redeploy or seek additional authority Cap troops in Iraq and no more blank check for war. (Feb 2007)
*Cut off funds for Iraqi use, but not for troops. (Jan 2007)
*Phased redeployment out of Iraq, beginning immediately. (Oct 2006)
*Agrees with Newt Gingrich that Iraq policy is a mess.
In fact I am ashamed of both for not being more open to the people in countering the lies and using Impeachment to correct the injustices.
They both ignore the thousands of lost lives of innocent Iraqis, and I would think if we brought justice to that it would heal Iraq much quicker, and give Iraq the justice it needs at this time in seeing that America is a nation of Laws.
This would change the entire attitude of the Middle East, and I even think would change the terrorist activites of Hamas and the Israeli Palestinian issues.
When we ignore the rule of law, and continue on the war path we drain ourselves and lose the influence we so try to acquire.
Myself I suffer greatly here in China, because the Chinese people really look down on America because of the War. Americans can not really be themselves always looking over my shoulder to why this didn’t happen, or someone is out to stop my ambitions toward success. It is really terrible.
Here I did not support War, so I leave the US because the US really does not respect freedom of Religion, a religion that forbids war. They force people to pay taxes against religious values. And yet the very American Institution that supports the separation of Church and State think nothing about it in concern to Israels Religious State. It’s highly hypocritical.
Now I face a dilimmena in which I have no renewal to my contract here because of the non-confidence and I am left without a job, having a wife and 2 children to support, and no house to live in. I am looking more and more to climbing a tall building to jump off the world because of this unseemingly unjust mess. There is too much pressure. I am at wits end, and left believing that ……dead is somehow better?
In fact many of these issues I think is why China keeps the unchanged currency locked, because making China part of the lawlessness in America is something they don’t want to do in the eyes of the world.
Can you imagine if they increased the yuan value to promote US trade? It would give more money for Bush and the war effort. They don’t support war, and that’s why we have this trade and currency dispute.
Granted the China government supports the US while the US allows trade from China, but they certainly do not accept the injustices of the Bush Administration and the idea that the US can simply ignore the unjust War in Iraq.
So all the blaming of China from the US, needs to be retracted and the US bring justice to their own situation.
This means Impeachment and its success.
I know once the war is ended, and justice is brought to the thousands of victims in Iraq; better relations will come, and trade with America will be of utmost concern.
They will make China currency more in line to American and vice a versa.
So the issue is bringing justice. Barack is clearly opposed, in which I have his letter of non support to impeachment, and Hillary has yet made a committment, although I feel she would be more inclined to favor impeachment since the fiasco that happened to her husband.
The bet is she would favor impeachment. If not…we are in for a long grueling unhappy state of affairs of the same neglection of Justice for the innocent.
Obama is not the Answer, and with his reluctance to protect the rights of the innocent victims in Iraq, really proves how discriminatory and racist he is.
If it’s not about Race Barack, then are you in this campaign only for yourself or for others who died by the hand of Bush?Clearly Mr. Obama you are pushing a Hypocritical Democratic Agenda.
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The wine salesman will never admit that his wine is bitter and bad. I am not supprised that Hillary’s campaign adviser would say that she can beat Mccain. Do people really want to have the Clinton in the whitehouse? Really? I don’t think so. Many will stay home during the general elections because they will not bother voting. The negatives of Hillary being so high, Mc Cain will win. For Hillary to win, the blacks and hispanics need to come out to vote, thing I don’t see happening if she wins dirty against Obama. The excited youths will not come out to vote for her. All these millions who got inspired by Obama and voted for the first time, will not bother when their icon will be out. Mccain wins against Hillary, there is no doubt about that.

polls are not always correct
however it will be interesting to see what the independents do with a McCain /Clinton happening

Clinton is more electable, and can beat McCain. Obama cannot.
Obama vs. McCain arguement will be about the 2002 vote which to authorize use of force. Useless and distracting arguement which highlights that Obama was not even a senator at the time. Obama gets portrayed as weak on terror, weak on military, and weak on foreign affairs.
Clinton vs. McCain arguement will be about when and how to end the war in Iraq. Clinton now and carefully. McCain never surrender and stay for 100 hundred years. Easy win for Clinton. She looks strong on defense, strong against terrorism, and wise in foreign policy. McCain looks like a stubborn old man.
Clinton is a stronger candidate vs McCain. It is not even close.

Bull. Hillary Clinton would lose to McCain because there are tons of independent people who do not want 4-8 more years of Bush/Clinton.
I don’t care for Romney, but if he’s the nominee–I’ll vote for him over Clinton. I’d even take Huckabee or Santorum over Clinton. I would rather see the mouldering body of Spiro Agnew as president. Anyone but Hillary.
Clinton supporters can cut/paste the talking points all they want, but far more of America despises her than supports any of the other candidates.

Obama would be much better against McCain. The contrast between the two is powrful and given the trends in our Country and given what people are thinking Obama has a much better chance. Hillary is establishment all the way.

I am so sick and tired of empty slogans ! All the Obama supporters do is repeat slogans from his Stump speech. They have nothing of substance to say about him.

A Clinton win in the Democratic primaries ASSURES a Republican Group hug and surefire defeat of the Democrats in November. Nothing motivates the righties more than a Clinton.

The final truth is that Hillary is much more disliked by many more people of both parties. The democratic leadership has to realize the difference between prefering one candidate (perhaps slightly more prefer Hillary) and utterly despising the other. So many of Obama’s supporters truly hate Cliniton that she can’t win.
Honestly, she does have the more substantive campaign. But that doesn’t matter. Thousands upon thousands of democrats, liberals, and progressives HATE her. I know too many people who will give up on politics completely if she is the democratic nomninee. Bill Clinton may have been the best president we’ve had in a while, but his free-trade centrism is not what a mobilized progressive party wants. Hillary has shown too many times that she will adjust to a conservative agenda and that she is succeptible to big corporate contributions. She is much more likely to become “Republican-lite,” in an effort to appease hard line conservatives.
Ultimately, I agree with American progressives: I do not trust Hillary.

Hey Stephan Merker,
So you cannot think of a single goverment program that has been successful? Try Medicare, which has proven to be much more efficient than out barbaric private health care system in this country. The fact is there are some things government does better than the private sector, and some things the private sector does better. It’s mindless worship of right wing ideaology and some abstract concept known as “the free market” that prevents you from using your God given brain and thinking pragmatically about particular issues. That is why I would never vote for McCain even though I like him personally. He still thinks the “free market” is how to solve our health care crisis; the one that is killing our middle class (How dare a middle class wage earner have the audacity to get sick in his or her old age! Take their house away, and in the process do not let them declare bankruptcy.) Oh, and by the way, I suppose you are in favor of doing away with government control of the US Navy, Army, Marines and Air Force. They are all run by the governemnt so I guess they have to be failures.