By Dotcomabc

Feb 23, 2008 9:33am

Clinton Gets ‘Worked Up’ in Ohio

ABC’s Eloise Harper reports: Sen. Hillary Clinton took another moment last night in Toledo, OH to thank and recognize the local police officer who lost his life earlier in the day while riding in her motorcade. She thanked the law enforcement officials that work for Americans and included other laborers in this country, including “nurses that work the night shift.”

Clinton, trying to appeal to the crowd, said “I grew up in the Midwest and I have all of those Midwestern values that we share about what it is life is all about. We don’t expect anybody to give us anything; we expect to work for it –- we always have. We take individual responsibility and we are self–reliant.”

Hitting on NAFTA and trade, Clinton energetically spoke to the crowd, trying to make her case. “Sometimes people say to me ‘You get worked up’,” Clinton said. “…You know that’s right, I do … I think the American middle class and working people are worth getting worked up about!”

Clinton started asking “why?” in Ohio late Friday night. “Why, why aren’t there the kind of jobs that will give us a good solid middle class lifestyle?” Clinton continued, “Why can somebody work full-time and not have a wage that lifts that person and his or her family out of poverty?”

“Some people think either those questions don’t have answers or that the answers are basically ‘well, you know that’s the way it used to be but that’s not the way it is anymore’ — I reject that, I reject that with all my heart, that is not an answer that is acceptable for me or my country.”

Slamming her opponent, Clinton said that “on issue after issue I don’t come to you with words I come with actions — I come with a proven record of accomplishments for you.”

Clinton has said before that she’s “your girl” to take on the Republican attack machine. But, in Toledo she had a new twist, saying, “If you are looking for someone who will work to figure out a way how we keep building and making products that give people good wages and give us an industrial base which is important for our national security as well as our economy, then I’m your girl.”

User Comments

Good points. But were they delivered in that shrill, hoarse semi-yell she usually uses, or did she tone it down and speak in a more natural voice? She really should do the latter; she’s very hard to listen to most of the time.

Posted by: jac13 | February 23, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

She’s my girl. I want somebody who will fight to get this country back where it needs to be.
She has shown time after time that she has the will,determination and fight that this country needs. GO HILLARY!

Posted by: J | February 23, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

I feel strongly about the war in Iraq and believe we should have never gone there in the first place. I voted for Hillary Clinton 2 times as my state senator but the second time was with a clear mandate to get our troops out of there.
It was bad enough that Sen. Clinton agreed to support Bush in “his” war but not to listen to her constituents that wanted our troops brought home only compounded the stiuation.
Of course, now Sen. Clinton is trying to find excuses why she agreed to support “Bushes war” but it’s too late. There is no reason good enough to cause this kind of mistake where death has come to so many Americans and Iraqi, alike.
In the words of the late Molly Ivins, journalist and columnist from Texas in a 2006 article intitled, “I Will Not Support Hillary Clinton for President”:
Quote:
“Sen. Clinton is apparently incapable of taking a clear stand on the war in Iraq, and that alone is enough to disqualify her.”
When I heard Barack Obama speak and tell how he was against the war from the start he gave voice to my feelings and I thought there is someone I want leading our country he has such wisdom.
As Sen. Obama has said it’s not so much who has more experience but who will do the right thing the first day in office as the President of the United States.
Once Hillary gets your vote she’ll look down on all you “little people” just like Leona Helmsley did. Hillary is a multi, multi millionaire with staff to do her hair, clean her house, etc….. she could never relate to the working poor who hold this country up
And the day she agreed to support Bushs’ war she was as guilty as he is for hundreds of thousands of deaths some of which are our own military.

Posted by: Sandra | February 23, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am

“Sandra”
Obama also said he doesn’t know how he would have voted if he had the information that they did. He is now using his “infinite wisdom” to dupe people.
You were not privied to the information they were given, so how can you determine how “you” would have voted!

Posted by: J | February 23, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

There’s another aspect to Hillary’s war vote that is as troubling as the vote itself. That is her adamant refusal to admit that the vote was a mistake. One of the reasons George W. Bush’s presidency has been such a disaster is his unwillingness to admit — and, more important, learn from — his mistakes.
Contrast with Obama’s admission (on, of course, a far less consequential issue) that he made a mistake in not crediting Deval Patrick with the lines he used.
She can “soften” herself from time to time, but that doesn’t change the essential person we came to know during the 1993-94 health-care fiasco: imperious, take-no-prisoners, belittling, threatening and attacking her opponents (read the account of Rep. Jim Cooper).
The phrase “often in error but never in doubt” comes to mind.

Posted by: jac13 | February 23, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am

Rodney: Before you continue to insult a multitude of women who are proud to be 60 and referred to as a “girl”, you may want to stop and think. Then again, you may not care who you insult. Hillary is one of the “girls” and there are many more of us out there amused by the likes of you!

Posted by: AmazonTraveler | February 23, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

J.
Why resort to outright lies. Obama has alwasy been anti-war and there is NOTHING the BUSH couuld have said to change that REALITY. Come on, I thought you Billaries believed in “REALITY.”

Posted by: shelgirl | February 23, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

Sandra:I too am adamately against the war and I always have been. It’s easy for Obama to stand tall and speak out when many surround him and chant his praise. It takes a powerful leader to take us to into the new frontiers, to break new ground, in new territories, to not be fearful but fearless. It takes a powerful leader to heal not just the wounds inflicted in the fabric of this country but to see and feel the pain suffered by citizens in many countries. It takes a powerful leader to stand alone and fight the fight and even in failure to rise again, to fight again. We’ve watched Hillary Clinton be fearless, fight and lose and continue the fight. We’ve watched Hillary Clinton, stand on the Senate floor, not at a peace rally, and vote and state her reasons for her vote. She, more that the other 76 Senators has stood against repeated personal attacks for that vote, despite the fact that it was George Bush and not Hillary Clinton and the other 76 unnamed Senators that deceived the citizens of this country and lead us to where we are now. The mistake lays at the feet of those who citizens who voted for George Bush, not the senate for for something that was not a vote for WAR!
Obama chants the Kennedy theme without understanding that negotiating out of fear, isn’t the issue, but rather negotiating from power is the winning position. He chants lines from Martin L. King that led a generation before him to take action. Obama fails to understand that it takes a powerful leader to not just inspire, with the words of others but to speak from your heart with the clarity your words that inspire and call to action your followers to face a fierce battle with the opposition to right wrongs. Obama is naïve to think that we all just talk and reach an agreement. He is naïve to think that talk with anyone without a plan will protect America.
There are similarities bewtween Bush and Obama. I’ve had enough of someone “attempting” to run the country. I’m for someone who has withstood the test.

Posted by: AmazonTraveler | February 23, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

Classic Hilliary, Bill signs NAFTA into law in ’93, setting the stage for GAT, CAFTA, and all the other “un-fair” nanaged trade deals that allow China to make so much money that they and the Saudis in Dubai by up all our resources; And then she wants to say she’s for the middle class (that those same polices have wiped out) and for a living wage, that companies can now outsource to avoid paying to workers in this country. She and Bill sold off and eviscerated our industrial base under these managed trade deals. Therfore, we don’t produce anything to sell to market, and our entire economy is based on byuing and consuming products from every other country EXCEPT America, enriching China and the other members of the WTO while throwing our national debt, and consumer debt into the stratosphere. How can we have a middle class on service jobs? It’s not going to happen. You can’t buy your house, your car, or cover your medical costs with so much debt on these kind of wages. Hilliary is responsible for this. So for here to say she has the soulton to this problem, when she and Bill created it is laughable. That’s NOT a record of accomplishment, it’s more like CLASSIC doublethink.

Posted by: cba | February 23, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am

Amazon Traveler,
Why can’t you Hillary supporters keep your facts straight? She failed to read the NIE that was provided to her before the vote, instead relying on a “staff summary.” Recently, in the California debate, she tried to claim that she didn’t think it was a vote for the use of force (despite the occurrence of exactly those words in the title of the resolution), and also distorted the Levin amendment to rationalize her failure to vote for that. The truth is the voted for the resolution with her future political ambitions in mind, trying to set herself up as being tough enough to be president. Her total lack of candor on this issue is, alone, enough to disqualify her.
Likewise, you are distorting and mischaracterizing Obama’s statements and positions. He recognizes that Bush’s adventurist, unilateralist foreign policy has weakened us as a nation and stretched our military to the breaking point, and has spoken about negotiating from a position of strength by getting out of Iraq and re-focusing on Afghanistan where Al Quaeda was based, and where we had them on the run until Bush decided to transfer our resources from there for the foolish Iraq invasion.
Finally, this silly comparison of Obama with Bush is just over the top. Obama accomplished more in his first five years out of college than Bush had in his whole life before he became (you note I don’t say “was elected”) president), or has since. And, unlike Bush, he worked hard for everything he achieved.

Posted by: jac13 | February 23, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Again, I feel Hillary should be honest with American and change her slogan:
I’M YOUR GRANNY!
Many people have warm feelings about their grannies, so it might do the trick. Sure, since Chelsea is no mom yet, Hillary isn’t a granny in the strict sense, but she is a girl is NO sense of that word.
She’s old, tired and done. She did her best, worked hard, now she can take care of the cats or the dogs or the geraniums.

Posted by: Rodney | February 23, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Hillary proposed to clean up the White House after Bush jr. May McCain or Obama give her the job. Ayone can use a cleaning woman, even if she’s old and talks too much. At least she’ll be no danger to the next President. She’s the ideal type for woman for those who could be attracted to feminine, gentle, witty, busty creatures such as Ms. Lewinsky.

Posted by: Brian | February 23, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

The death of the officer, and HRC’s reaction to it, have nothing to do with the campaign. Injecting it into the political discourse demeans us Obama supporters and undermines our many legitimate criticisms of Hillary.

Posted by: jac13 | February 23, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Hey, how about knocking off the personal attacks? That’s not what people want on this blog. Can we please stick to issues and qualifications?

Posted by: jac13 | February 23, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

Hey, is Obama doing nothing? Lovely coverage of Clinton over the last few weeks, but I don’t see much about what Obama is doing or saying. Certainly not as positive as this…. You can be for Clinton if you like, but I really liked this page for its balance.

Posted by: Jerome | February 23, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

I am 55 and all for Hillary and I was thinking I could vote for Obama but not now

Posted by: Bishop | February 23, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

The reason he is doing so well is the Republicans are voting in the Democratic primaries so that Senator Clinton is not the nominee.
Also, it’finally nice to see Senator Clinton getting some press. This has been the most biased coverage of an election I have ever seen. I am sick of seeing Obama’s face and borrowed lines everywhere.

Posted by: J | February 23, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

J,
Do you really think cross-over Republicans are responsible for Obama’s victory margins in the last 11 primaries and caucuses he has won — with the CLOSEST margin being 17 points? You must know that is not realistic.
The fact is that Hillary has run a poor campaign, and Obama has run a very good one. If you could open your mind a little bit, you would recognize how much the way each has run their respective campaigns shows about their intelligence, insight, judgment in hiring/appointing people, and ability to inspire people — in other words, each one’s ability to be president.

Posted by: jac13 | February 23, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

“jac13″
I see you are listening to the tv’s biased coverage again. The Republicans will do anything to make sure Senator Clinton is not the nominee. Watch and see how they tear Obama apart.
Obama doesn’t inspire me one bit. He’s full of empty promises that we all know he won’t/can’t deliver. He says the same things over and over again and it doesn’t amount to a hill of beans.
Didn’t you notice his opening statement was from a speech he gave a few days before about Washington is where ideas go to die. The man is not original.

Posted by: J | February 23, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

Sorry, J, you insult my intelligence. Unlike most people these days, I read 2 or 3 newspapers, and read and listen to all sorts of sources.
The facts about how these two candidates have managed their campaigns are right there for everyone to see — as are the results for the last 11 primaries/caucuses.
I don’t think exit polls are “biased,” and if you take the time to delve into the details, you can learn for yourself what portion of the electorate in a given caucus or primary is Republicans. Regardless of whether or not they’re voting for him because they believe in him or would like to run against him, there are not enough of them to explain Obama’s victories.
Unlike a lot of the die-hard Hillary supporters/Obama-haters, I try to be fair-minded about all this stuff, and while I think Hillary is a very capable person and is competent to handle the job of president, I just think she is too divisive to win in November. Obama may lose to McCain, he may not, but he’s polling 10 to 15 points better than Hillary is against him at the moment.
As for substance, I’ve read Obama’s book and it is chock full of thoughtful, substantive ideas on the issues (and unlike Hillary’s book, he wrote it himself).
If she gets the nomination I will certainly vote for her, since I can’t contemplate the thought of any more Robertses or Alitos on the Supreme Court, for one reason, but I think Obama offers is a chance for a fresh start and some real change.
In other words, we just disagree.

Posted by: jac13 | February 23, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

“jac13″
I guess we can agree to disagree. Obama just doesn’t have what I am looking for in a President. If Obama wins the nomination, I will write in Senator Clintons name.

Posted by: J | February 23, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

Anyone care to discuss Senator Obama’s loss of support in the national polls (Gallup and Rasmussen)?
Hey ABC want to report that? No – didn’t think so.
Hey ABC – want to discuss further Sen. Obama’s falsehoods in the debate Thursday about Afghanistan? This kind of lying (pardon me – misrepresentation) of facts is exactly why people are taking a second look at the Senator. He is wholely unequipped to be the leader of the free world.

Posted by: Kris | February 23, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

J,
I hope you will reconsider. Think about what a McCain presidency would really mean. All of Bush’s policies, with an intelligent person behind them. And, if the Dems keep control of Congress, more gridlock. We have to win back the WH, even if it’s with a candidate you deem imperfect.

Posted by: jac13 | February 23, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

obama supporters should start to show the respect to the Hillary supporters, it will be us that you will need to get your man the presidency. Keep being cocky, you will definitly be on your own, stop the immaturity. I am a democrat, but I don’t have to vote for him just because he is the chosen one. I can chose not to have to defend a vote for 4 more years, its been great these last 8 years not having to defend bush.

Posted by: Diann | February 23, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

Kris,
What are you talking about? Hillary used to consistently be 10 or 15 points up, and since she lost that lead, weeks ago, she and Obama have been seesawing back and forth in the national polls — 3 to 5 points one way or the other. If you’re loking for media bias, you might want to look somewhere else — like at Chris Matthews’s bullying of an Obama supporter on MSNBC the other night while he only asked the Clinton supporter softballs.

Posted by: jac13 | February 23, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

I won’t vote for somebody that I don’t believe in. I don’t believe in Senator Obama.
Like I said I will write in Senator Clinton’s name if she is not the nominee.

Posted by: J | February 23, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

Asked about what moment in crisis had made them who they are as individual?
Obama recalled his stale story about being left by his father when he was two years old and raised by his single mother and grand parents. That was his moment of crisis that propelled him into politics and wanting to help others as a community organizer.
Clinton on the other hand has had many moments of real crisis that tested her will, her resolve and her character. We all know how she had handled everything with grace. Her answer however to that question was instead focused on the challenges the American people face everyday in their lives.
If the American people cannot recognize who the real leader is here, then we all deserve the sure dissappointment that will occur in November. All those Republican and independent crossover votes Obama is getting will not be there in November.
Wake up people! Wake up before it’s too late.

Posted by: SO | February 23, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

That’s what I’m talking about!! Show us your heart. The American people are going to become passionate about a Clinton campaign when Clinton becomes passionate about a Clinton campaign. I think that’s just about now. I’m with you Hillary.

Posted by: WestCoastMessneger | February 23, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

The girl has my vote!

Posted by: Shirley Johnston | February 23, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

It is very interesting how the bloggers show their ignorance and innocense (as McCain says regarding the Iraq war !!
The argument waged by the Democrats is that the war is bad because it cost much in money and lifes.
This being valid for any war, this would mean, only as an example:
- after the attack on Pearl Harbor, the US should have sent to Japan a polite diplomatic note asking not to do such any more
- the US should never have declared war to Hitler’s Germany and after a few years, instead greet friends with a
“hello” or “hi”, yell “Heil Hitler”
- Lefties are decrying any military action to protect the oildl supply. But
if it gets scarce, as it already happened before, these same lefties riot
in protest.
But of course, DEMAGOGUES as the Democrats (I would accept that Obama does it out of innocense, not so Hillary) rely on the innocense and ignorance of the average person to make them vote for him!!)
TOM

Posted by: TOM WITTMANN | February 23, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

Hello Obama supporters who cannot see the forest for the trees. Your man may very well become the Democratic nominee, not because he is as great as he claims to be, but because he has gotten a free pass from the media and from Republican voters who are voting for him to ensure that Hillary does not get the nod. While this is happening, a lot of you are not debating the policy issues and differences you have with Hillary, but instead spend your time demonizing and insulting her and her supporters. What you all don’t seem to understand is when Election Day comes and Obama is the nominee, there will be a problem. Obama’s supporters are currently practicing a “scorched earth” policy with the other 1/2 of the Democratic Party. Not only do they throw the Republican Playbook at Hillary, but they also call her supporters uneducated and stupid. Well. Here is a news flash. I am a Hillary supporter, I am an 52 year old African American woman and a high school graduate. I make over $100k a year. While Obama supporters are calling us uneducated and stupid, we are sitting back and waiting. You see, we understand that Obama’s supporters(?) can get him the Democratic nod for the White House. We also understand that he CAN’Tt get INTO the White House without us.You guys have been so over-the-top that when Election Day comes, a lot of Hillary supporters will sit at home on their “uneducated” butts or cast their “uneducated” votes for the Republican candidate. I will be one of them. We will be doing that while Obama’s Republican supporters switch their vote from him to their Republican candidate. Now, don’t get mad and say we are playing into Republican hands, you all lost that right when you started your Republican based attacks against Hillary. Besides, we will only gain the “black” George Bush” if Obama gets elected.Yeah, you all are pretty smart for a bunch of Educated Fools. Go Hillary ’08

Posted by: LeeLee07 | February 23, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

To: LeeLee07 ,…
If Obama is SO Baddddd,…it wouldn’t have been a HONOR for Hillary to sit next to him!!!
Words do matter ;-)

Posted by: eXcellente360 | February 23, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

Good thing she did. She supplied all his answers! :)

Posted by: LeeLee07 | February 23, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

“We also understand that he CAN’Tt get INTO the White House without us.You guys have been so over-the-top that when Election Day comes, a lot of Hillary supporters will sit at home on their “uneducated” butts or cast their “uneducated” votes for the Republican candidate. I will be one of them.”
Lee lee 07,
I dont know why you are getting upset from your own tirade you are only confirming what many persive are the obvious demographics of the Clinton supporters. I mean how petty can one get to actually pledge support for another party simply because your candidate did not win. so what you are saying is you will rather forget all what your party stands for, the suffering of the average American, continous slaughter of troops,downward spiralling of the economy why?? because you are upset with Obama supporters and want to settle score’s with them. Im afraid I dont have words for you or others like you who are wlling to allow personal grudges get in the way of putting America back on the pedestal where it belongs.
ill like to encourage everyone from all side’s to grow up, bantering is all part of competition and it has been coming from both camps once the chips are down, think of America first before settling petty personal scores which will have catastropic consequences, sure you vote Mcain and then what, I hope you know you as well as many others and not Obama alone will suffer the consequences

Posted by: arure | February 23, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

I am concerned about Hillary’s inability to accept responsibility for her action. She uses her husband 8 years in the white house as her experience. Well during those 8 years, NAFTA was signed and she openly and publicly supported this and other trade bills. NAFTA is directly responsible for the loss of jobs in Ohio and Penn. Now its not Bill or her responsibility — Bush is to blame. Hillarly voted to give BUSH the authority for the Irac war. She now claims Bush tricked her into voting for the War, she did not know what she was signing. Its not her fault again. Then she claims that she has the experience to get a universal health plan passed. She worked on this plan for 8 years while her husband was president and did not get a universal health bill, what makes her believe she will do better if given another 8 years. Her efforts were a dismal failure because she could not get a consensus and she was dogmatic and inflexible. I do not believe that Hillary has the judgment to be the President or at least not the character. We all make mistakes, there is no shame in that. The shame is not admitting your mistakes and thereby learning from them. No one is infallible as Hillary apparently wants the world to believe.

Posted by: cora vaughn | February 23, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

NAFTA is a weak spot for Hillary. She used to be in favor of it. Now she’s trying to hide that.

Posted by: Sal | February 23, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

As always, Clinton is politically tone-deaf. When running for President, you don’t say “I’m your boy”, or “I’m your girl”.
Both Clinton and Obama have espouse similar policies, at least when compared to the Republicans.
But Clinton does not come across as being politically skilled, or quite frankly, as having character.
You can’t claim all your years as first lady towards your “experience”, and then take none of the responsibility for the policies that were enacted when you were first lady.
Clinton should not duck responsibility for NAFTA.

Posted by: saraz | February 23, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

Aruze – you are entitled to your opinion. However, I am an old school democrat. I was signed up to register to vote by Jesse Jackson who personally handed me to the pen to do so during Jimmy Carter’s campaign. I was probably in the last generation to actually live the “Whites Only” signs in stores and other “public places.” I was in that 1st batch of children to be bussed to white schools in Baltimore, Md. This is not the Democratic Party I signed up for. This party is not supposed to be about hate politics – black vs. female. We are supposed to be representing both equally – I have not seen much of that lately. A lot of us haven’t. Now you think I should vote for a man who I feel has no talent other than the gift of oration – for my Party. Isn’t that what the Republicans did for George Bush? Obama and his supporters says he is the Uniter. If this is the way he and his supporters plan to UNITE this party, I want no part of it. How can you unite this Democratic party if you are insulting the other half of it? The thing that I find most offensive is the fact that Obama’s supporters have taken the Republican playbook and thrown it at the other Democrat nominee and used her husband’s past to smear her with it. I also experienced the Women’s Liberation movement, although I did not burn my bra. Obama and his supporters say “Change.” This seems like the same old, same old to me. Same old, dirty politics. What exactly is he going to change? The “Status Quo” that you all don’t want a part of???? Meanwhile, Obama is out there courting every “Status Quo” candidate that he can find to endorse him. Lets see, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, you get my drift. This has been one of the most divisive, sexist, racist campaign I have ever seen during all my years of voting – and it is not all on the Clinton side. Not by a long shot. So you want me to support the Democrat Party? Like I said, this is not the Party I signed up for. For me, this is not about settling scores with Obama and his supporters – this is voting about a qualified candidate that is able to pull our country out of the very, deep trouble it is in. Last I checked – this is still America and I can vote for whomever I want to. I will not vote for the “other” George Bush (Obama) no more than I will vote for Mickey Mouse. You want me to stick with a Party just to put someone in office that I seriously have doubts about? Sounds alot like how the Republicans along with the Supreme Court put GW in office. Now, how is that serving my country??? You want me to vote for Obama despite my feelings that voting for Obama is a hugh mistake?/ That is like African Americans thinking that other African Americans should vote for Obama because he is African American. Just because he is does not and should not mean that he automatically get our votes. This election should be about qualifications, unfortunately for a lot of people it is not. If he gets the nod, I will most assuredly sit on my butt, with my “uneducated and now, petty vote” and watch the elections results roll in. Like I said before, Obama will not get my vote – I don’t care if you have words for me or not, just don’t get my integrity twisted with a need to have the Democratic Party win this election at any cost. The cost will be too great for this country to pay.

Posted by: LeeLee07 | February 23, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

Calm down Hillary…….

Posted by: Vectorpedia (Rick) | February 23, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

Thanks, but I am calm. You have a good one too.

Posted by: LeeLee07 | February 23, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

Excuse me, WHY IS THIS NEWS? Honestly, who cares what slogan she’s using today?
ABC, why not just directly publish Clinton’s campaign speeches? All these whiners who are complaining about “Obama media bias” are completely off base.

Posted by: eric | February 23, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Re The Iraq vote: Get over it. The War is real and what ifs and shoulda couldas are not going to change that. I think it’s a good thing that Hillary voted for military force, if she had not she would have been perceived as weak and afraid to use force. Stop blaming Hillary, we all know that the Iraq war falls completely on Bush’s shoulders. I think Hillary was trying to do the right thing. If Hillary says it was a mistake, then she looks weak. Edwards admitted that his voting for the war was a mistake, and where is he now. SHUT UP ABOUT THE IRAQ vote, it’s the past, we have to focus now on what to do about the remaining struggles a new president will face. AND Obama is an idealist who will fail to accomplish what he says because things don’t work that way. We don’t know what will happen in Iraq but most likely whoever wins will not be able to bring all the troops home by 09 or end the occupation completely by then so why lie and say that you can. To say it’s possible is one thing, but to assure the American people it can be done is on your watch is…..a fairy tale and people need to stop believe in Obama false prophecies for he himself is a false prophet.

Posted by: JJ | February 23, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

LEE LEE,
Good job. I will not give my vote to Senator Obama just because he is the nominee. Right now that hasn’t happened. I will write in Senator Clinton’s name if I have to. Nobody is going to tell me I have to vote for him just because he is the Democrat’s nominee.
The Obama backers think that the Hillary backers have to vote for him in the general election. That isn’t the case. They will find out that alot of Hillary’s people will either vote McCain, not vote or write her in.
I don’t find anything appealing about the man and his policies are basically borrowed from other people. He talks a good game ( I personally don’t agree with that) but putting words into action will be his downfall.

Posted by: J | February 23, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

O.K. I have a question , here people are saying that Qbama is against war , well what about him wanting to take the military out of Irag and send them to Darfur , to stop the genocide , will our trops be any better off then ,
don’t get me wrong I want our troops home but I also want our country to be safe

Posted by: Ga Girl | February 23, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

Thanks J. I will support Hillary to the end and if she does not win the nomination, I too, will cast a write-in vote for Hillary. My hope is that the media, even at this late date, will start treating her fairly. I am seriously thinking about boycotting CNN and MSNBC’s sponsers. This mess should not be happening!

Posted by: LeeLee07 | February 23, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

If you do nothing, so you have no fault.
If we talk obama’s background, I know he is “street organizer”, and buy a $2 million house with the help of corruption rezko.
anything else, he only have “hope, change and future”
Hillary is rare woman, a true president.

Posted by: larratta | February 23, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

LeeLee07 and J,
Like you I look beyond the elections. It isn’t just a matter of getting a Democrat into the White House, it’s a matter of making sure that the person who gets in is capable of solving the problems of America, of looking after each and every American, not just a small constituency. So, come November, I will probably join you both in writing in Hillary’s name if she isn’t the nominee.

Posted by: nsn | February 23, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

I think Hillary now believes the “end is near”

Posted by: Vectorpedia (Rick) | February 24, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am

Isn’t it just exactly what the Republicans like to see..Democrats tearing each other apart…..I am voting for Hillary Clinton because I respect her and I feel she is the best thing for this country. I think Obama is a good man and when he has more experience I would certainly consider him as a candidate for my vote, but not at this time when this country is such horrible shape….come on all stop the fighting or we might as well put up with another Republican in office.

Posted by: deborah thomas | February 24, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

Hillary supporters keep on bringing up her experience. Even if Hillary did not support NAFTA, she certainly did not make any VOCAL opposition to her husband’s endorsement of NAFTA. If she is so independent, why didn’t she make a statement about why she disagreed with NAFTA? As for the Iraq War, everyone knows that Obama was anti-war. That is an important issue for our generation. Lastly, I am afraid of Bill Clinton controlling Hillary’s policies if the superdelegates “rig” the election in her favor. Those who support HRC should realize that she was on a committee supporting voter reform and believed that the popular vote should determine elections. Why is she suddenly in favor of superdelegates determining the election? She has too many minuses in her resume and does not have a consistent message. Barack has a consistent approach and does not change his ideas. Most of his campaign, he has been the underdog. Never a tear shed.
I felt that Hillary was condescending to Barack in the last debate–

Posted by: Raphael | February 24, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

When have you ever seen
as much focus on the trailing opponent
for President. Give me a break! Is it t.v. or bad Press or both,

Posted by: t.v.ed | February 24, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

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