Clinton on Carville: ‘My Job Is to Do the Best I Can’
Sen. Hillary Clinton said her job is "to do the best I can" in response to recent comments by Democratic strategist James Carville that she’s behind in the ’08 race and must win upcoming primaries in Ohio and Texas to continue on. Carville, an unpaid consultant to Sen Clinton’s campaign, previously led Bill Clinton’s ’91 presidential bid to White House victory.
"These two states are big states and are very reflective of our population as a country. And I’m going to do the very best I can to be successful in both of them," the New York senator told ABC New’s Kate Snow this morning on Good Morning America.
Watch the VIDEO HERE.
Asked if Carville was right to put so much emphasis on Ohio and Texas, Clinton said her campaign is "making progress every day" on the road to the 2025 Democratic delegates needed to secure the nomination.
(For the up-to-the-minute estimates bookmark the ABC News Delegate Scorecard.)
"We are forging ahead and obviously we want to do well. That’s why we are here," Clinton said. "We’re running a vigorous campaign. We have a lot of support and we are going to be here working hard until we find out what happens on March the 4th.
Earlier this week, in a panel at the International Builders Show, Democratic strategist James Carville said of Clinton, "She’s behind. Make no mistake. If she loses either Texas or Ohio, this thing is done."
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There’s nothing wrong with us Americans. Be informed. Obama is bi-racial, his mother, a white woman from Kansas, his dad was from Kenya. Obama is not a muslim, he’s christian. If you are going to comment, at least have your facts straight before you try to tell us what we should do for our country.
Posted by: Ginger | February 14, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
Omotola from Lagos Nigeria (West Africa)
America is in a crucial phase in its existence.The Economy is going sour and America has lost its dominant position in almost every thing
Now is the for a ‘Leader’ someone who can fix the economy and turn things around
Of all the candidates, Hillary’s plan for the US seems the most superior.
America needs a ‘fixer’ not a preacher!!
Posted by: Omotola | February 14, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
I would have to agree with Ginger.
Get your facts right if your going to make such comments. Especially from Africa.
Posted by: Mike | February 14, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am
If Barack Hussein Obama is a person who will bring about “change” in Washington …how is it that he has been in office for a few years and his only * (note) to fame is his 2004 Democratic speach…what policies has he made to “CHANGE” washington…he is such a great doer how come only people in IL knew him…if that is even true..and how come his policies are very similar to Hillary Clinton…she has been in office and established those policiies and fought for them…Barack Hussein Obama followers????…get off the band wagon the wheels will eventually come off …whether he wins or not..wake up to reality
Posted by: slee | February 14, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
Just because a black government was not successful in South Africa doesn’t mean it won’t work in the U.S. Look at Detroit and New Orleans. Oh, I rest my case!
Posted by: jeff | February 14, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am
We have already had one Clinton in the white house and there was a lot of nonsense going on. I would like to see Hillary’s insurance plan on paper before I vote for her. If the government is going to force people to buy insurance and they can’t afford it, what kind of plan is that. We already have that problem now.
Posted by: Christine | February 14, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am
I find it so entertaining to listen to Obama speak. He says nothing over and over. We are going to go forward into the future (no kidding) etc….. I don’t like Hillary either. I think the whole thing is pathetic. How is he inspiring anyone to vote for him, if they actually listened to him is beyond me.
Posted by: ScubaGuy | February 14, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am
This is America not some third world backward country like South Africa. Barack Obama is half-white and half-black, and is a Christian. And guess what? Under our constitution that doesn’t matter anyway. Obama looks like he will be a great leader, regardless of race or religion, like that matters.
Posted by: John | February 14, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am
The people are starting to see through Obama’s thin skin. Just ask the people of Janesville Wisconsin. When he spoke of “specifics” of his policy they booed!
Posted by: jas | February 14, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
I agree, all Obama says is Hope. Give me a break. I cannot beleive there are so many sheep in this country that will vote for someone basee on Change. A typical Obama speech. “We will move forward, not backward, we will go up down, we have been there, not hear, there is hope” Give me a break. Wake up America, I am not happy with any of them at all , but he is the pitts.
Posted by: akinca | February 14, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am
All this worry about Obama then get out there and get the vote for Hillary. Do you have a primary in your state or neighboring state? Do something. Talk about Hillary’s solutions. And, if you are a Republican worried, do the same so McCain doesn’t have to face OBAMA. Do it today. Learn about Hillary, stay away from the media
Posted by: Maria | February 14, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Has anyone other than myself noticed that once OBAMA became the front leader in this race it became about race of all of a sudden? The uneducated start trhowing around words like Muslim, Black and unamerican.. and then the really uneducated comments on unexperienc. The man has sponsered or co written over 1000 bills. It’s simple to see if one just goes to the ILL. web site. He has held office for almost 8 years, not the 4 that the Clinton Kool Aid drinkers spout..what I really wonder if how she taught them all to lie so quickly? or if that is just another group to add to her supporters? Poor, Single Mothers, Latinos and the Uneducated are now to be joined by the liars.
Posted by: Deanna G. | February 14, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
We are going to have to make a choice. If Hillary goes down, it will be between Obama and McCain. Isn’t that like every other election that we have had ? I agree that Obama only trots out his white half when it benefits him. He has no plan, no specifics, no experience. McCain looks like another four years of the same old. If you take a closer look at Obama, he is politics as usual. He takes money from the big guys, tows Ted Kennedy around like a trophy that he won. You can’t criticize him or you will be portrayed as a racist. The political cartoonists better be looking for a new job if he becomes President.
Posted by: KC | February 14, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
Iwould like to know more about him he just came out of nowhere and I should vote for him
Posted by: Bishop | February 14, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am
What a joke, the only educated voters are Obamas. Stop all the insults. These are just primarys, once the general election rolls around he will be squashed. He will have to answer a direct question, and the answer cannot be HOIPE. Give me specifics, and dont refer me to some web site. I want to hear it from the horses mouth.
Posted by: akinca | February 14, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
obama is not muslim. get your facts straight.
Posted by: sarajane | February 14, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
Ya know – I think Obama would be a good president. However, I’m pretty sure that the right wing Republicans and Conservatives in congress will give him a devil of a time. There will be compromises but I hope Obama doesn’t compromise on the key issues – jobs staying in this country, universal healthcare and getting us out of Iraq. My guess is he will be a bit weak and will try to work with the other side. But, as we all know, those with the money control America and I’m afraid they will end up controlling Obama. I hope I’m wrong but we’ve all seen what Washington does or does not do.
Posted by: Bob | February 14, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am
Obama – finally someone who reminds us that it is us not the President who runs this country – the power of inspiration over programs is exponentially increased voter participation! Americans know that they can fix this country if they show up at the polls and for decades they haven’t, to finish Bush w/yet another Clinton run is the most despicable voter discouragement campaign Rover ever devised! How a woman who sat through over a decade of Wal-Mart Board meetings never once standing up for unions can get any endorsements is pure machine politics and fortunately for the world, they appear to be dying on both sides of the aisle – good riddance!
Posted by: abql | February 14, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am
Why do all you Obama supporters hate rich people? Have you ever got a job from a poor person?
Posted by: akinca | February 14, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am
Inexperienced???? Tell me, who can you name in recent political history, or even the non-political arena, that has created so much inspiration, hope, and excitement about who we are as a people? I’m ready to work, and work hard, as an American to rebuild our country. Wash out the dirt and grime that the “experienced politicians” have left in the White House (including Clinton)! Obama’s experience is standing the people of our country UP is a positive way. And the WORLD is taking note!
Posted by: ItsJustMe | February 14, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am
Hillary’s words: “And I’m going to do the very best I can to be successful in both of them,” TRANSLATION: “I’m going to do anything I HAVE to in order to be successful in both of them”
She will not bow out gracefully even if she loses. And her supporters in those states better make sure she wins, or she’ll toss them aside just as she did the voters when she lost on Super Saturday and on Tuesday this week.
Posted by: she'sruthless | February 14, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
Barrack Obama will never be President.
The republicans will insure that.
I know so many republicans here in Ohio who will be voting for Obama on primary day, in order to run against him in November, the Dems are making a big mistake.
Anyways I find it funny that a 50/50 race between Hillary and Obama is being ignored, for a hyped “obama’s in the lead!” stuff.
It’s 50/50 and no one can get around facts.
Posted by: Josh | February 14, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
I simply do not know anything about Obama to elect him into the highest office in the country.
Posted by: lee | February 14, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
lol reading all the comments on here…its the sound of desperation! People still repeating the ‘he’s a muslim’ lie…’he hates white people’ lie, the man has a white mother and black father, but he’s considered the ‘black candidate’…you people are truly amazing!
Racism is UGLY. Distorting someones life and record is UGLY. Get a grip people. The US Government will not be considered a ‘black government’ when Obama is the President. It will still be the United States of America, including ALL americans, with a truly inspiring President!
Posted by: LA in Indiana | February 14, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
Sannette, American people are responsible and have a great vision for their country. They know that Obama is the best to lead them at this moment of their History, and they are very excited to show to rest of the world how great they are. If you a nostalgic of the Apartheid time, that is your problem. Don’t export what you have done in South Africa here.
Posted by: Fyd | February 14, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
I find some of the comments here amazing! Yes, he is a Christian. But so what if he was a muslim?!? People have demonized muslims and Islam so much but as muslims have made major contributions to American society. We are your physicians, your teachers, your engineers. Barrack is not just some guy with rhetoric. He has a plan for America.
Posted by: Brian | February 14, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
My opinion is this….This country is not ready for a black president. The republican party will prevail as bad as that sucks because everyone is torn between a woman and a black man. I think Hillary should get it but thats just my 2 cents
Posted by: Michael Funk | February 14, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
Obama attens the United Church of Christ (UCC). The most positive thing about the UCC is that they are open, affirming and inclusive of everybody. The most negative thing about UCC is that they are open, affirming and inclusive of everybody. You don’t have to espouse a belief in Christ to be accpeted there. You can be Muslim, Budhist, Wiccan or anything else. Just because Obama goes to this church does not make him a Christian any more than going to McDonalds makes you a hamburger.
Posted by: g77084 | February 14, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am
One of the things Obama has proposed changing is the way they do business in Washington. He wants ALL americans to SEE what the government is doing, nothing behind closed doors. So those congressman and senators that vote against programs that could help those in need, they will be exposed. And I am excited about THAT specific change. The american people, WE THE PEOPLE, need to get involved, be aware, be active, understand that together we ALL rise, not just a chosen few.
Let’s look forward to a better america.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | February 14, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am
Apparently, one of the most accurate measures of how well someone is doing is the number and kind of people who come out to attack him or her. I didn’t think Senator Obama was going to make it to the upper echelons, but, based on the criticisms and attacks here (though most of them are nonsensical), he’s broken through to a new level. He may actually go all the way, wow.
Posted by: Time after time | February 14, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
Once the honeymoon is over we will see the real Obama, just like in the debate with Hillary when he would not answer a direct question about illegals and driver Lic. He will have to state his position on several issues sooner or later. It will be then that America makes its choice, it is not a black or white or male or female thing. I thin the country would elect either, will they elect a Muslim, I dont think so. If that is to harsh fo you then I am sorry, but last I checked all the torturing was coming from that religion, Until Muslims stand up against the few that are making the rest look bad people will judge. That is just a fact.
Posted by: akinca | February 14, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
If you dont like Obama becuase of his policies, that is fine, but dont make excuses about religion or race. Before anything can happen in America it has to go before the HOUSE and SENATE. So if you actually believe that Obama will make our country like those of the Middle East, you know nothing about our government , so shut your yapper! I want a Pres. in office that will make this country better. And after RESEARCHING ALL THE CANDIDATES, Obama is the right coice FOR ME!
ANd when Obama with the help of the American people bring this country back to what it once was (a beacon to other nations of freedom, hope, stability etc.) You can all thank Obama for it!
Posted by: Michelle | February 14, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am
Demo Rules – do you believe everything the Newspaper Lady tells you? Secondly, she will release her income taxes on April 15th just like I will and the rest of the majority of the nation. Get over it already.
Posted by: g77084 | February 14, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am
Well we really see who the real Racist people in America are,…maybe it will turn out, to be the Democrats or so called white liberals…or the white Bougeois Middle Class…its going to get really bad…in Washington…to much fear and hate,…they don’t trust Hillary or Obama
Posted by: George Dolan | February 14, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am
JEff wrote”Just because a black government was not successful in South Africa doesn’t mean it won’t work in the U.S. Look at Detroit and New Orleans. Oh, I rest my case!”
Hey Jeffy boy…Hows this white admin of George AWOL Bush doing for ya now! Yup, mmm hmmm…These guys have set my country back decades and it’ll probably take the Dems at least 8-12 years to clean up after these incompetent morons.
Posted by: Bill Brock | February 14, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
Yeah sure, Hillary. Whatever. Just pretend that the other states don’t matter any more and it’s all about just Texas and Ohio. Go ahead, and say what ever you feel like…
Posted by: w_roos | February 14, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
Wow! I have to say, a week ago these discussions were about whats wrong w/ Hillary, but now that Obama has pulled ahead, its now time to knock him off the mantle.
Posted by: Scott | February 14, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
To lee (posted 9:36:13am) You said, “I simply do not know anything about Obama to elect him into the highest office in the country.”
Then why don’t you go to his website and read up–you might learn something. Then you can make a intelligent decision.
Posted by: commonsensetellsme | February 14, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
that is what is so great about this country. You are welcome to leave any time.
Posted by: akinca | February 14, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
Dinero80 wrote “This country is a joke, the people who founded it were a joke, Go Obama!!!!” Just curious, is this what Obama is preaching to his supporters? If so, Just say no to Obama.
Posted by: g77084 | February 14, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
Here in PA we have a closed election which means you can only vote in your party and if you are an Independent you can’t vote, well I changed from Independent to democrat to vote for Obama on April 22. I have no regrets.
Posted by: terracotta | February 14, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
This column starts with an African telling Americans we’re SUPPOSED to be Christians??
Posted by: newz4i | February 14, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
“Obama’s (economic) plan. is the most shameless piece of potential plagiarism that I have ever seen. He basically took Clinton’s words and Clinton’s policies and called them his own. If I were a professor I’d give him an F and try to get him kicked out of school,” said Kevin Hassett, Sen. John McCain’s economic advisor and the Director of Economic Policy Studies at the American Enterprise Institute.
Posted by: snakebaby | February 14, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am
Bush tried to privatize SS, but all you out there did not accept it. Apparently you like the current system where you pay in and will get nothing ou in the future. I hope you will be happy come retirement time when you dont have a pot to piss in. The federal govt. does such a good job doing our SS why not let them handle our health care. That sounds great, nothing like a govt. employee giving us advice on health care. All you big govt. morons just take a look at New Orleans to get an idea of what big govt and govt. health care will look like.
Posted by: akinca | February 14, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am
The truth at last!!!!!!!!Many, who voted in the democratic primary, are obviously racist. America has always had a race problem and Obama is the person to finally end it. It is time America, so stand up and elect the person who can really change America not just offer time worn slogans.
Posted by: rockychance | February 14, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
Before making a final decision, voters should check out the Rezko/Obama connection. The Chicago Sun Times has been following this, 19 year relationship, for the past two years. There are 52 past articles. Those who take the time to read these will find that Obama is not the person that is being portrayed. Rezko is presently in jail but will not go to trial until February 25th. (Read the facts now before voting.)
Posted by: Phyllis/ PA | February 14, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am
Out of all the democratic hopefuls I think Obama it’s the hardest for the republicans to attack. There have been scandals and a long list of dirt on the Clintons. The dirt that the Clintons came up with against Obama was his second grade record and his middle name. Also the Clintons said that Obama in 2004 knowing what he knew then that he might have vote differently on the war. SAD SAD SAD! What, Clinton it’s saying that at some point Obama came close to being half as bad as they were! The republicans are in no position to debate foreign policy, when they started the war. In no position to debate on the economy and no position to debate fiscal responsibilities because the republicans have been spending us in to a debt, a debt we soon wont be able to manage. SO TELL ME WHY WOULD IT BE EASY FOR THE REPUBLICANS TO GO AGAINST OBAMA??? Specially when McCain wants to continue Bush’ failed policies???
Posted by: Yan Ira | February 14, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
It is so comforting to know that if elected obama will use his Kindergarten experience to talk to leaders. That is so ispiring. I will feel so safe at night when I tuck my children in knowing he will be finger paiting with all the worlds dictators.
Posted by: akinca | February 14, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
It’s quite simple,we not bigots like you people in South Africa. And, he’s not a muslim you idiot. Take your own advise and get educated. Ignorance is bliss!
Posted by: jpmbz | February 14, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
OK so many of you want to do the ‘well I can top that’ game of slandering the opposite side. That accomplishes nothing and just makes you look like a fool. As many of you cited, there really isn’t much difference (besides physical attributes, which don’t matter anyway)between the 2 leaders. So make the choice–we’ve ‘been there’ ‘done that’ with the Clintons. Why not try someone different? Someone with vision, not a checkered past that has been out there for the whole world to see. And things didn’t go sour in this country the minute Bush took the oath. NAFTA, ignored terrorist attacks, shall I say more…….all happened on Clinton #1′s watch.
Posted by: whyNOTfor change? | February 14, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
Bravo D, Bravo!
Posted by: Jim Koury | February 14, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
I was thinking this yesterday, but today I’m convinced. The nominating race is over, and its time for Clinton to concede.
Yesterday, I was intrigued by two points – the Rasmussen daily tracking poll and analysis of how well Clinton would have to do in remaining contests to catch up with pledged delegates.
The daily tracking poll showed a huge one day bump toward Obama. I figured it had to be an outlier, because this is a daily three-day average. It isn’t supposed to move this quickly. Obama took his first lead in this national poll yesterday, and jumped to outside the margin of error. For that to happen, when the numbers are averaged over three days, requires something between a 10-15 point movement in a single day. I thought it couldn’t be – like I said, had to be an outlier.
Well, apparently it isn’t, because today Rasmussen is reporting a double digit Obama national lead. This thing has tipped in his direction like a flat pan of water – small tip gets a whole lot of water flowing fast toward one side.
The other aspect is true, as well. Obama now has above a 100-delegate lead among the pledged guys (the ones won in primaries and caucuses). Clinton would need decisive wins in remaining contests to catch him, and assuming the super delegates won’t reverse the decision of party members, that’s very unlikely.
If she stays in, her only recourse is to go big-time negative. In effect, this would be trashing the party’s presumptive nominee, driving your supporters to even more entrenched negative views of the nominee, and potentially diminishing his chances in November.
Sen Clinton, its time to do what’s best for the party. You should concede the race now.
Posted by: Paul | February 14, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
terracotta (10:00:02) Thanks, and I hope there are lots more like you!! Go, Obama.
Posted by: dream on | February 14, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
I agree, the haters just like to blame Bush for all the wrongs in life. Some people just cannot take personal responsibility. All the candidates suck if you ask me, but this is not like trying a new dish at your favorite resteraunt. Lets try something new attitude will not work. Like it or not we have troops overseas, we have terrorist who want us all dead, the illegal problem is out of control. This is just not the time for on the job training.
Posted by: akinca | February 14, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
Don’t be scared, SAM. The W served two purposes…it was code for the WEALTHY to know where their bread was buttered and it also was easy for the MORON bushbaby to spell his name. case closed…next
Posted by: daddyblue | February 14, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
I just find it incredibly hard to believe that a candidate unable to carry one major state may get the nomination. The only states Barack is winning are causus states sparsley populated where few people vote. And these states in the end will be won by republicans. So what good are they?
In think the division in the democratic party will be so great that either candidates supporters will vote McCain as a backlash if their candidate does not get the nomination. I for one will vote for John McCain if Barack gets the nomination. And I am sure I am not alone. Just as I am sure that many Barack supporters will vote McCain if Hillary gets the nomination. So either way, Macain wins.
Posted by: John Smith | February 14, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
Out of all the democratic hopefuls I think Obama it’s the hardest for the republicans to attack. There have been scandals and a long list of dirt on the Clintons. The dirt that the Clintons came up with against Obama was his second grade record and his middle name. Also the Clintons said that Obama in 2004 knowing what he knew then that he might have vote differently on the war. SAD SAD SAD! What, Clinton it’s saying that at some point Obama came close to being half as bad as they were! The republicans are in no position to debate foreign policy, when they started the war. In no position to debate on the economy and no position to debate fiscal responsibilities because the republicans have been spending us in to a debt, a debt we soon wont be able to manage. SO TELL ME WHY WOULD IT BE EASY FOR THE REPUBLICANS TO GO AGAINST OBAMA??? Specially when McCain wants to continue Bush’ failed policies???
Posted by: YAN IRAH | February 14, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
For all those saying Barack Obama is a muslim and he is black and will plunge this country into disaster. Well, the U.S. is alreday in a disaster. If big U.S. financial institutions such as Merrill-Lynch, Morgan Stanley, Citigroup, etc. are begging the Arams(muslim) and the Asians(China, Singapore and South Korea) to bail them out financially) then the U.S. is becoming like ancient Rome. The U.S. slipping into ancient Rome not under the direction of Obama or a black man. It is high time we stop deceiving ourselves. Without the Arab and Asian money, the U.S. will collapse. Wake up and face reality. What we need now is telling the American people the truth. No more games; the world is changing faster than you think. Bill Clinton receives $10,000,000 a year from the Emire of Dubai(a muslim). Wake up!!!
Posted by: Sam Lobey | February 14, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
Yes, Obama has done nothing, lacks substance and needs a better education too. ;)
Wake up America, he’s the only choice!
After high school, Obama moved to Los Angeles, where he studied at Occidental College for two years. He then transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialization in international relations. Obama received his B.A. degree in 1983, then worked at Business International Corporation and NYPIRG before moving to Chicago to take a job as a community organizer. As Director of the Developing Communities Project, he worked with low-income residents in Chicago’s Roseland community and the Altgeld Gardens public housing development. He entered Harvard Law School in 1988. In 1990, The New York Times reported his election as the Harvard Law Review’s “first black president in its 104-year history”. He completed his J.D. degree magna cum laude in 1991. On returning to Chicago, Obama directed a voter registration drive. As an associate attorney with Miner, Barnhill & Galland from 1993 to 1996, he represented community organizers, discrimination claims, and voting rights cases. He was a lecturer of constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1993 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004.
Posted by: jpmbz | February 14, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
Thanks, Paul, for the info. I didn’t know any of that. But do you really think she would concede? It doesn’t seem to be in her character to give up a fight. I was surprised that she never publically thanked her supporters in the primary states she lost lately. Nor did she congratulate Obama. She did both when she was winning. I know that this is not a major observation, but to me it does say a lot about her character and the fact that she appears to use people when it is to her advantage. I don’t know. Just wondrin’
Posted by: dream on | February 14, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
So, why is he scared of using his middle-name?
Posted by: Sam | February 14, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
but ask yourself. If a white man said he hated black people but no longer does, would you vote for him or would he be a racist. Let me see how yout hypocrits get out of that one.
I would vote for a black Mickey Mouse if I thought he could help save this country.
Posted by: jpmbz | February 14, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
Obama a Muslim? An Obama Presidency compared to Black political rule in South Africa? What was this story about again? Oh, James Carville stating that if Hillary losing either Texas or Ohio on March 4th, Obama wins the Democratic Nomination. And he’s right. Obama has literally nickle and dimed the Clinton Camp into submission, with what Hillary would classify as insignificant wins in small states. But the delegate total continued to add up for Obama until he now leads. Another one of Hillary’s problems is that when she loses in a Primary or a region, she seems to leave without thanking her campaign workers, and without waiting for the results to come in. She didn’t do it in Iowa, but she dismissed Iowa as a caucus, stating that the real voting begins in New Hampshire. I didn’t see Hillary complain about her caucus victory in Nevada. She left South Carolina before the polls closed. She left the Potomac region in the same manner, without thanking a soul. Many can say that Obama’s message lacks substance, but the biggest message is the ones that are not spoken. You can see it in the body language, and in a person’s attitude and ingratitude. At least Obama thanks his supporters if he loses. Wait a minute; when was the last time he lost?
Posted by: ji_john | February 14, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Sam Lobey:
Funny you should mention financial companys like Morgan Stanly, Merrill-Lynch…they are Obamas main group of donors to his campaign…hmmm
Posted by: J/union | February 14, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
Sam – how many people use their middle name all the time? It’s not like Obama has gone out of his way to conceal anything. If Obama was a typical slimy politician, he probably would have changed his name to “James William Smith” or something like it long ago. But I guess he just trusts the people of the United States to be better than to be prejusdiced against someone on the basis of things he can’t control, like what his name is or who his parents were.
Posted by: D | February 14, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Hard to run against Obama?
No plans – just talk.
No specifics – just hope.
No experience – just missed 130 votes and pushed the wrong button a dozen times.
No eloquence – watch a speech without the telepromter and you will see what I mean.
No attacks from the media – just wait til November.
And the easiest way to run against Obama? So far I have yet to meet ANYONE that is going to vote for Obama if he gets the nod. These are Democrats! They are united in their feeling that a 95-5% black vote for Obama, by people who never follow politics til now? And we are racist?
I am disinfranchised. I have been held back. I don’t care about the system. I don’t pay attention to politics. I don’t care who runs. I don’t know a thing about this government and don’t care to because it doesn’t care about me.
And then, in the blink of an eye, all these folks are suddenly EXERTS on how Obama is going to do away with all the policies they have been fighting. What happened to ‘I don’t know and never cared, I don’t follow this political stuff’. But suddenly you know all the facts and all the history and you have been fighting but losing? You weren’t fighting, you were not even paying attention. They never noticed until a black man runs and wins a white state with Republican caucus voters in the Democratic caucus.
Then, without having EVER paid attention and thus NOT knowing the policies of the past, you are experts on how to run the future? And this goes for white, black, young, old, latino, anyone that is suddenly the genius. Years have gone by, where have you been all these elections that you never bothered to take part in? Where have you been, with your expertise?
But now we are racists for demanding this man present facts of his own? That we think he is not specific on purpose, that is hiding truths, and that he has a shoddy voting record, and we are the racists, while 95%-5% black vote to a black candidate is NOT racist?
Most of the people suddenly on the bandwagon don’t pay attention to politics, but now they know best?
Rubbish.
It is like when my lowly Cleveland Indians, who spent 20 years in the dumpster of baseball , made the world series a few times, and got a new stadium, suddenly I see Indians T-shirts and caps everywhere. Because they are a winner. They want to jump on the bandwagon.
And before Brett Favre, who outside the cold Midwest were Green Bay fans. I used to suffer for those folks, sitting in the cold, losing, but still showing up week after week. Then suddenly you have EVERYONE wearing a Packers jersey?
This Obamathon is the same. On the wagon for the ride, pretending you have been on it all these years, and have now finally overcome. This is a load of rubbish and I know tons of people that are Democrats that are voting Republican to stop this dog and pony show in its tracks. And I know all the haters will be on the attack, I don’t care. Say what you want, you will anyway, but the arrogance of saying ‘I KNOW I can get HER votes, but I don’t know if she can or will get my votes’. Oh really? You have a big surprise in November, sir. And yes, when you lose we will all be racists, or bigots, even if we have interracial spouses, or mixed religious households, with straight and gay members of the family, white, black, jewish, catholic, protestant, speaking Hebrew, Italian, French, or English. That is the make up of my family, but you will just scream RACIST.
You are about to set back race relations 50 years, and it is the 95%-5% racism that is going to be at fault, not us, for fighting this fuzzy diatribe of BS hope and dreams, and no past proof of doing a thing.
Illinois is no better today having known Obama than it was in 1998 before Illinois knew he existed.
The miseries that were there before him, are there after him, and that is all the proof anyone needs to know his words are empty, his deeds overstated, his beliefs hidden in shadow, and his ethics twisted into knots.
Posted by: 2009 Where Are You? | February 14, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Hillary — for the record — has only held ONE public office: The New York Senate seat she now occupies. The rest of her career has been as First Lady. She is running on her husband’s record, which is dubiously Democratic given the disasters of NAFTA, welfare reform, DOMA, and Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. Second, she claims significant White House experience but has gone to extraordinary steps to have her papers from that time kept classified. If she was so key to Bill Clinton’s successes, I hardly think releasing these papers could hurt her. Third, there is no major piece of US legislation from ’01 to present with the name Clinton on it. What exactly has she done aside from positioning her White House bid? Fourth, her campaign (and her person) are divisive and will not create the governing majorities needed to move legislation through a convoluted, combative congressional system. Where she to win — god forbid — she’d have a max 2 year window before the republican onslaught began repeating the vicious cycle of the 90s. Wake up world… Hillary only mires the US in the political wars of the past. We need to reboot the system and focus Americans on the challenges of co-existing with the world in a globalized world. Obama is the one who gets us there.
Posted by: Clarify | February 14, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
akinca (10:23) I totally agree. This isn’t the time for on the job training.
But if that’s true, who do we vote for? I’m chosing Obama because, as a surgical nurse, I’ve witnessed many operations (just as Hillary has been present at many WH meetings). Seeing and doing are 2 different things. So, I personally don’t see Obama as 0n-the-job training. He at least is willing to listen to other points of view. Hillary’e ‘I know what’s best for everyone’s’ attitude I find presumtuous.
Posted by: lack of experience?? | February 14, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
The “Most Sexist Nasty Boys Club” prediction of Hillary’s demise in this election is a little bit premature. Will we be lead by the media or will we insist that they report rather than make the news? Charlie Gibson on last night’s news gave a balanced report on the race, rather than an emotional, “I can’t believe a woman will beat a guy in this election.” drama from the Boys club. Thanks Charlie. Stay tuned. It’s not over ‘til it’s over and it clearly isn’t over. To all the Hillary supporters: Don’t throw in the towel, the boys are making it look way worse that it actually is. Has Obama said anything of substance yet? I know… the vapors of inspiration will take us all to the promise land. Someone will have to do the hard planning, work and make those difficult and sometimes unpopular decisions. Someone will have to be more than just “Present” and inspirational.
Posted by: AmazonTraveler | February 14, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
hillary is the only good candidate that could turn this country around peacefuly, the only problem is that she is a woman and this is only a problem with the male voters percentage wise, you can call her any name or any negative posts but the fact is she has seen it all and is still out there talking the truth about the economy, jobs, the Iraq mess, health care and what have you, all you hear out of obama is CHANGE, what the hell is he going to change all he does is spout off like a preacher, young people out there beleive they will be going in to the white house and be able to hang out after listening to him, his experience in Ill. amounted to taking money for his big home and plenty of other shady deals, his closet has not been exposed yet but when the time is right watch out, wake up AMERICA VOTE FOR A WOMAN, YOU LITTLE NARROW MINDED MEN should become a man and vote right HILLARY
Posted by: alfonso | February 14, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
dream on – I don’t know. Its an interesting question. I agree its not in her nature to drop out, but I suspect more and more people she trusts are going to be telling her the same thing. Maybe even Bill.
My guess – and really just a guess – is that over the next couple days these conversations will take place in private. If she doesn’t heed the advice, we’ll something dramatic, like Pelosi pledging her super delegate vote to Obama and calling on the party to rally around him. Something like that will be the signal the party leadership isn’t interested in seeing her campaign continue.
Posted by: Paul | February 14, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
This qoute is from the “Cafferty files” on CNN. This is so true!
Jim from College Station, Texas writes:
Jack, Let me start by saying that I’m a Hillary supporter. What strikes me when I see video footage of the crowds standing behind Hillary and to an even greater extent behind the Republican candidates, are mostly old, white, stuffed shirted establishment supporters. And then I see standing behind Obama: young, old, black, white, Hispanic, common folks enthusiastically showing their support for him. I get the feeling that I’m looking at the past versus the future and the future is what it’s all about.
Posted by: jpmbz | February 14, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
Its shameful that in this day and age people talk of black and white, muslim or christian , and develop hatred on basis of all that..and we proudly call it the 21st century..Be it Obama or Clinton..we need to get a grip of our emotions and react like decent and mature citizens and not just keep vomiting venom .If there is a wave for Obama then people who are for Hillary just need to accept that and do so gracefully or they too will go down in history as bitter foulmouthing individuls .
Posted by: Dr.T | February 14, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Has anyone else checked out this so-called “Christian” church Obama attends?
“The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cone’s book, Black Power and Black Theology.”
Sounds like a church that PROMOTES black/white division. Obama is not the one to unite the United States of America.
Posted by: flyguy | February 14, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
by: 2009 Where Are You? “So far I have yet to meet ANYONE that is going to vote for Obama if he gets the nod. These are Democrats!”
When you crawl out from under your rock, you’ll meet millions.
Posted by: jpmbz | February 14, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Hillary needs to be the Democratic nominee. Republicans who refuse to vote for McCain (like myself) won’t vote for an inexpreienced black man who attends a racist church. He’s going to get himself killed.
Posted by: tom | February 14, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
The Rasmussen poll is on the website now – just this minute.
Obama has a 12-point lead among . He leads among women, too.
This was a 5-point lead in yesterday’s tracking poll, which was Obama’s first lead (I think) since Rasmussen started tracking the numbers early last year.
Also, its a three day average. To jump from 5 points to 12 in a single day probably means the lead is actually more than 12 – probably closer to 15-16 points or so among phone calls made yesterday.
Posted by: Paul | February 14, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
To jpmbz: “Bro’s before Hoe’s!” Do you even know how offensive and misogynist that statement is? This kind of HATE language is what we can expect from the Obama followers. Women-wake up there’s more to come. It’s ok to address a woman in this way? I can think of a number of names that I could sling at Obama but then that wouldn’t be fair. You can’t go after him but people, including a number women will think it is fine even funny to use the word “Hoe” in describing Hillary. That comment inspires me to write this response and to hope that others see the hate in the statement and what the boys will do when they chant and dance their way to office.
Posted by: AmazonTraveler | February 14, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
Yes, the campaign is forging ahead. Much like the Titanic forged ahead to the bottom of the Atlantic. Yuk-yuk-yukkity-yuk. As to the media mentioning Clinton’s whole name but not Obama’s middle name, Clinton has historically made a point of always including her maiden name – some kind of feminist thing, although my personal opinion is that it was an elitist affectation.
Posted by: Publius | February 14, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
I like the man!! I think he has new young energy!! Everyone has a past, and just maybe it was just the way he grew up. His parents traveled and the places where he lived called for the different kind of religion he was taught. yes his mother married men who were muslims. so ? He does speak about things of common concerns. teacher, jobs, roads and more. He just may be the type of person who can help with the muslim world. he may be the peace maker. billery is an angry women. just listen to her speak. she yells. she is a fake. When she was in the South she spoke in a southern draw// in Texas she put that little boy on stage dressed in mexican garb. That was horrible. She wore a necklace in one of her debates that was turquoise?? She makes me sick. I will never vote for billery!! we do need change, and I’m willing to take a chance. black, white, religion, It is the man I like. I gess alot of other people do too!! People are so mean. Some of the things being said here today is very sad. I would check out the web sites, on the points of interest before you stick you foot in your mouth.
Posted by: DARBYSGIRL | February 14, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
My mother told me once that I can’t argue with crazy people. I feel the same way when listening to Obama supporters.
No Obama supporter in the national media can point to one specific plan or idea that is better than Hillary’s. It’s all about change…for Obama. My question…is to what? and how?
I encourage all people who feel that the Democratic party has been taking over by the extreme liberal left to vote for McCain.
Both McCain and Hillary believe in a strong America. So if Hillary voters can’t vote for their candidate in November, they will have a legitimate choice and reasons for defecting to McCain.
On top of all of the insults that Obama supporters hurl at Hillary Supporters.
Posted by: Nick | February 14, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
AmazonTraveler I guess you are a femenist, so what do you call a woman who lets her husband cheats on her time and time again, for money and power.
Posted by: Evan | February 14, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Thanks again, Paul. I hope you are right. I fear that IF the polls are correct, and she is ultimately going to lose, that her persistance in fighting (and possibly ugly fighting) will further divide the party. I suppose, time will tell. Must go to work now, but will come back to read your posts later. You are far more knowledgable than I (and a great majority of some of the posts I’ve read here.) I appreciate your keeping to the issues.
Posted by: Dream on | February 14, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
How uncomfortable is it going to be for Democrats to discuss the unpopular policy of affirmative action (state affirmative action was even voted down in California…so it is very unpopular) this year?
It comes up every election cycle with Republicans wanting to end it.
The fact that millions of young people take tests for college admissions and millions of better qualified individuals are passed over for jobs solely because they are white…is racist.
John Roberts said the best way to end racism is to end racism.
Are people comfortable with the fact that their sons and daughters will be taking tests and will have to out-score the Presidents daughters just to be equal?
Posted by: Nicholas | February 14, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
Nick the same Hillary and McCain that were exhanging vodka shots in Russia.
Posted by: Evan | February 14, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
AmazonTraveler – granted, that’s not an appropriate word to be throwing around, in general or specifically at a presidential candidate. But this is the internet, and you seem like you’ve been around the virtual block before, so I’m sure you’ve seen worse.
Congrats to your candidate for all she accomplished this campaign season. She may not have broken the glass ceiling, but she certainly softened it up, to the point where maybe the next viable candidate who happens to be female won’t be seen as a “female candidate.”
At the risk of jumping into the race stuff again, maybe this is one thing working in Obama’s favor. He was preceeded by Jackson and Sharpton. Neither was a viable candidate, but maybe in some way they forced people to consider the possibility. Then when a candidate who happens to be black comes along, he isn’t automatically dismissed as the “black candidate.”
Posted by: Paul | February 14, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
Nick (11:33) said: On top of all of the insults that Obama supporters hurl at Hillary upporters.
Read some of Amazon Travelor’s posts and then get back to me about it…..
Posted by: who'sslammingwho?? | February 14, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Here are some realities that neither group wants to face: Both candidates are establishment insiders
Both are corporate-state politicians. Large sources of Obama money are law firms, investment houses, and real estate companies, and 80 percent of his donors are affiliated with business, compared to 85 percent for Clinton.Neither are true progressives or populists, like Kucinich and Edwards.
Both Clinton the fighter and Obama the talker will sell out once they confront presidential realities. Why? Because plutocracies know how to retain power AFTER elections. After two years it will be clear that the new president will have failed to extract the US from Iraq, will have failed to deliver universal health care, will have failed to address illegal immigration, will have done nothing to get a new and serious 9/11 investigation, will have done nothing to stop middle-class-killing globalization, and will have utterly disappointed the vast majority of Americans.
Finally, for those seeking serious political system reforms, it is troubling that neither Clinton nor, especially, Obama have the courage to advocate needed constitutional amendments, such as replacing the Electoral College with the popular vote for president, getting all private money out of politics, making universal health care a right, and preventing presidential signing statements that undermine laws.
Posted by: Jack | February 14, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
So Nicholas how are the colloges in america funded. Most get their finance to stay open from their sports teams, eg. football and basketball.
Without African American players they would not be competitive, and not get the millions of dollars that keep the cost down for their students. So in your eyes it is ok for African American to go to College to play sports to keep the cost down for the white students.
But not to let minorities in because their parents did not live in a nice affluent area which could afford the best teachers and equiptment for the schools they attented.
Now if you said that all students including the sports stars should only go to college base on their sat’s, then your point is debatable. Yes but how many more whites would be able to afford the increase cost of going to college. You want blacks to keep the cost of your childs education down but not get any residual benefit. Thus going back to Jim Crow.
Posted by: Evan | February 14, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
The media does NOT support Hillary Clinton or anyone else who opposes Obama. McCain made one indirect comment about how you need more than hope to run the country and now he is on the hot seat for it. The media LOVES Obama and they intend to elect him. It isn’t the superdelegates who are deciding this election, it is the media.
Posted by: KC | February 14, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
Greg Lime
&
Sanette:
We do not need your hate in America…..in fact, your hate is not needed in the world period…..
Posted by: tony | February 14, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
To Evan: I call that a private matter. Interesting that people, a lot of whom are women, are furious at the Clintons for working through an extremely difficult private matter and staying in their relationship, rather than applauding the fact that they saved their relationship. If they are happy, why is it important for others to judge their decisions about who they choose to share their lives with.
Posted by: AmazonTraveler | February 14, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
KC:
Are you part of the media? Is the media stopping you from voting? What in the world are you talking about? People should have enough sense to vote for whoever they want to……..It does not matter how much the media talks about certain folks, that does not mean I intend to vote for them……
Don’t you have common sense?
Posted by: tony | February 14, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
If you think OBAMA is a Muslim, you are an idiot. If you think Hilary is more experienced, again, you are an idiot. She’s nothing but a former first lady riding on her husband’s coattail, her husband, who can barely stay faithful to her for 5 minutes. You don’t speak well for feminism when your resume consists of your marriage, a sham one at that. She’s losing and she’s in denial – that has nothing to do with her “resolve,” or “determination.” Obama is the superior candidate, even if his middle name is Hussein. This is America. He is a true self-made man, in the most American sense. Everything he has achieved, he did so on his own merit.
Posted by: Sanette is AN IDIOT | February 14, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
AmazonTraveler it matters because of what is at stake. If Hillary had gone up through the ranks like most female politicans in american then we would applaude her. She is where she is because of her husband, and no amount of spin can deny that fact. If she had left him then became a senator without him, then she might have a case, so it does matter that she traded self respect for money and power.
Posted by: Evan | February 14, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
I thought she believed in being transparent. I thought she said her admin. would be different that GWB? Seems to me like a good deal of secrecy is going on.
Posted by: Chris White-March 4th! | February 14, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
To Paul: It’s not that it’s “not appropriate”, it’s that it’s hate language, it’s misogynist. This is the internet and I and millions of other women are insulted when we are demeaned in such a manner. The fact that I and other women have seen worse and have been called worse, doesn’t mean that these boys should get a pass. When the day comes that men are as offended by the use of such language and understand that this guy is talking about your mothers, wives and daughters and demand that men speak of and about all women with respect, then we may begin to see change that matters. When Obama uses women in the fashion he does, i.e. Clinton, campaigning for him, raising money for him, advising him and the beats her with the “status quo” stick that he used to get him into office that indicates to me that his ability to discern issues that deal with women is myopic and best and with a blind eye at worst. When Obama supporters refer to Hillary as a “Hoe” that says tons about the people supporting him and thus, about the message he is sending out. It’s not about his race or his gender; it’s about his inability to discern what the issues really are and how to bring a real change to the vision of this country. His tremendous step for the African American community, women and men is undeniable but in my opinion, the President should be able to do more that inspire change, she should be skilled in the details. We’ve let the country be run into a deep ditch by a man who didn’t get the “details” and left those pesky detail items to others. As for the inevitability of another woman candidate: for many of us the sun will set before that moment has another chance of fruition. BTW new polls show Clinton leads Obama by 21 points in Ohio and 16 point in PA.
Posted by: AmazonTraveler | February 14, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
I would really like to know more about his childhood.Also why are Obama peps being so ugly tone it down a little so people like me can make up my mind and not feel like I’m back in 2000
Posted by: Bishop | February 14, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
This is the first time I have read some comments on articles strings, and I am rather surprised at the sniping, for lack of a better word, at others.
Even those who say things we hate have a right to state their opinion in this country, I think, or did bush the jr. do away with the First Amendment as his administration trampled and torn our Constitution apart? Put forth your message proudly by all means. Personally insulting those you do not agree with is a distracting we have seen before when not having anything substanative to say, is it not? That is the ploy bush the jr. has used so successfully. For example, hate to put you on the spot, but I will: john – third world backward…, ayimovie – do you want people to hate forever? ayimovie, do you by chance live in the United States of America? If so, let’s look a little closer to home..where are all the “real natives” being honored in the USA?
I took the time to read, what looks like, a portion of your comments – please lighten up – I think sanette is “jerking your chain.” Successfully.
akinca, josh, jas, kc,you raise a good point. When bush the jr. is out of the White House, ANYTHING is “change,” a general theme of change, without setting forth more specifics is getting thin. Mr. Obama knows how to energize a crowd, yes, and that is a good quality; now, let us hear some specifics…the person behind the desk will need to have those before they get there, and you Mr. Obama do not…as far as what you have said so far. Energizing and mobilizing people is valuable in this country, if backed up by specific agenda’s, programs, etc. that we can consider. I wish I would hear more of that from Mr. Obama. Why? Because bush the jr. was elected – twice – by claiming to bring “change,” smiling and strutting around giving no specifics at all. Hold on, Mr. Obama is a far cry from bush the jr., however bush the jr. twisted this country’s policies into ugly, hateful messages, based upon reed, and the pure thrill of abusing power, so the least I expect from, well, I guess three candidates, is to get specific this time around.
And, there is that mechanism, our elitist foreFathers put into place, an Electoral College….what is a democracy without a direct, popular vote? I hope the general election is not a repeat of the bush the jr. gore fiasco.
Now, if you must – have at my opinion. Unless you put forth more that insults, you are not contributing to a good debate, which I, perhaps, mistook this to be.
Posted by: whatsupdoc | February 14, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Evan:Feb 14, 12:27:21 PM:: I agree with you. Would she be where she is today if her last name were not Clinton or if her husband had not been President? I’m convinced the answer is ‘no’. There are far more women who have come up through the ranks and would be better qualified to be President. And to say that women admire her for staying with her repetitive cheating husband may have been true in the ’60s, but doesn’t stand up now. And certainly not this woman. It’s the spin feminists use to justify their support of her in that issue. Had she divorced him, they would be praising her for that!
Posted by: cutthespin | February 14, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Personally I like Obama and think he would make a great president. One thing is for sure, if Hillary is on the ticket then I’ll vote Republican!! I’ll bet I’m not the only one. As far as polls go, I don’t beleive them until it over.
Posted by: Mike | February 14, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
I tried to edit this and spell correctly, however, reviwing my post, it appears I have a few typos and misspellings. Sorry, I meant to be clear.
Anyway, I really should not have spent so much time on this. So, I hope you all have a wonderful day :) And, please lets promise to unite as democrats – another misleading republican we can very well do without.
I don’t think I will be seeing you all again, this is too time consuming for me, but, I hope you all continue the debating and raise the bar from the last election while you have your dander up, please.
Posted by: whatsupdoc | February 14, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
To Evan: I suppose that the Kennedys came up though the “ranks”. There’s Ted with that unfortunate incident in Chappaquiddick. There is Kerry, married the Heinz fortune. There’s Regan who was a movie star and Sonny Bono who was married to Cher. There’s a ton of men who got there, not by going through the ranks and BTW the ranks for women is way different than the “ranks” for men. She is where she is because people voted for her to be a senator. She has cultivated relationships with leader throughout the world and unlike many of the boys on the hill, she has worked for the citizens of NY, which is why Obama came to her for advice as to how to be a Senator. She will indeed work to solve the problems of this country but not through catchy slogan and dance moves. Hillary has a great deal of self respect. The money she earned through hard work. The power will be an enormous asset for the health and well being of all of us, not just the guys. Oh, and the feminist label. Right On! Proud card carrying feminist who firmly believes that “Women who behave rarely make history!”
Posted by: AmazonTraveler | February 14, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Evan what does it matter whether Hillary was married to Bilor not? She still won in NY by landslides. You can say that about almost every Politician out there. Didn’t Shrub become president because of his father? This deal about her leaving Bill or not and self-respect is her business. You right-wingers contradict yourselves every time. First you say the families should stay together at all cost. In fact you guys want to make it illegal to divorce. And then you say she has no self-respect because she didn’t leave him. Which one is it?
Posted by: MR | February 14, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Here are my votes in November:
Obama over McCain
McCain over Clinton
Posted by: AZ | February 14, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Hey 2008toolate isn’t that whole the idea to court votes? Hello some people peole just have no clue.
Posted by: MR | February 14, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Amazon Traveler: “When Obama supporters refer to Hillary as a ‘Hoe’ that says tons about the people supporting him and thus, about the message he is sending out.”
It says something about the one person who wrote that comment. And I’m sure you can find examples of other individuals, too. I don’t see the logic in tying that back to Obama’s message, or branding all Obama supporters as you do.
Anyway, good luck to your candidate.
Posted by: Paul | February 14, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Its actually the way the DNC rules are set up. Anyone and their dog can vote in these democratic primaries. This gives republicans enormous power to become democrats and vote clinton out. Then turn around and vote Mc Cain in the general election.
The DNC does this to drumm up support of their party, but when this many people do it, it becomes a way to vote the democratic front runner out.
Posted by: tom | February 14, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
AmazonTraveler and MR Ed I am far from right wing, I am about as left as you can get. I was once a supporter of hillary, but not now. The reason I was for her was that I knew tht it would be a co-presidency like it is now. She as the figure head while Bill call the shots. Like bush and chaney.
But there is out now a better candidate,
one that would unite the usa, would energise the younger generation like never before. Throughout this campaign HRC has shown that she does not have what it takes to be a leader. Experience does not make you a leader. A leader inspires his sub-ordinates to do their very best for the whole. Ask those young men who put their lives on the line in Iraq what leader they would follow. A I or ME leader who says she have experience, or a young LT how says WE can do this together.
How inspiring is hillary, as a former serviceman I have seen that kind of leader Hillary would be many times. Normally those leaders cost lives.
Just like i knew the kind of leader GW would be in 2000. Hillary and GW are from the same leadership school. The GOP choose him as their only candidate to beat Gore in 2000 and the people ignored the fact that he went AWOl from the NG. Well you see the results now. Do you want to look back in 4-8 years time and sayinthr words of Hillary ‘if only I had known what I know now’.
Be like Barak make the right decision for the right reason at the right time.
Don’t risk more american youth lives by your support for a candidate that will never be president.
Posted by: Evan | February 14, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
I don’t care what Barrack’s middle name is. No one has control over what their parents name them. You people doing all this fear-mongering are the reason why we are in Iraq. All muslims aren’t terrorists. Have you heard of a domestic terrorist? Hating someone for their religion is anti-american.
Posted by: wow...so sad | February 14, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
She taunted so much of Obama’s inexperience and claimed that she is the one proven, prepaird, tested and better. Well, that’s not exactly the case. If running of a campaign is a barometer of executive management skills, she failed miserably. According to several reports she blew $ 77 millions of dollars in 2007 and tens of millions more since January of 2008. Now it was revealed that she doesn not have a strategy for days after the last Feb. 5 election. She lacks money to do direct mailings to voters in PA. Apparently, not only she mismanaged the funds also the staffs. Guiliani became infamous for his misplaced judgment of characters and competence of selecting officials. Now they have something in common, Hillary also placed loyalty over competence in her selection of confidents and staffs. Well, no matter how you dice it, certainly it did not “the wisdom.”
Posted by: Philip | February 14, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
She taunted so much of Obama’s inexperience and claimed that she is the one proven, prepared, tested and better. Well, that’s not exactly the case. If running of a campaign is a barometer of executive management skills, she failed miserably. According to several reports she blew $ 77 millions of dollars in 2007 and tens of millions more since January of 2008. Now it was revealed that she did not have a strategy for days after the last Feb. 5 election. She lacks money to do direct mailings to voters in PA. Apparently, not only did she mismanage the funds also the staffs. Guiliani became infamous for his misplaced judgment of characters and competence of selecting officials. Now they have something in common, Hillary also placed loyalty over competence in her selection of confidents and staffs. Well, no matter how you dice it, certainly it did not prove “the wisdom.”
Posted by: Philip | February 14, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
MR (post 1:08 pm) I’m not Evan, but I have to respond to your comments re Hillary being elected based on her name being Clinton. You said, 1)”what does it matter whether Hillary was married to Bilor not? She still won in NY by landslides. You can say that about almost every Politician out there. 2)Didn’t Shrub become president because of his father? ” Regarding 1)- She was a carpetbagger who never lived here. Without the last name of Clinton, she would have been laughed out of the stae. Re 2) Yep, you’re right! Bush DID get elected because of his father. And look what a disaster that has been. It obviously a lesson we should take heed of.
Posted by: cutthespin | February 14, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
To Paul: First, I didn’t brand “all” of Obama’s supporters. Obama has never spoken to any issue that addresses misogyny. He has a pattern of riding on the backs of women to reach his goals, i.e. “Obama Girl”. It would take one phone call from Mr. Obama to remove that from the internet. Why doesn’t he do something about something he can do something about – now? Reaping the benefits from the denigration of women is part of that whole misogynist cycle, just as ignoring the use of “Hoe” or “pimping” or using Hillary to raise funds and campaign for you and then beat her with the “status quo” stick, sheds light on how the candidate thinks or doesn’t think about issues. He can say to all men – stop using that language. I won’t have it. He doesn’t. Why? Thanks for your courteous response. I hope my response, even though forceful, doesn’t denigrate you or your candidate.
Posted by: AmazonTraveler | February 14, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Hey Cutt Obama has been a US Senator for les than 2 yrs. If you want to talk about laughable. We all know you Obama supporters are republicans just waiting for Hillary to be out so you can jump to McCain. You people are a disgrace.
Posted by: MR | February 14, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Since Clinton said she has 35 years of experience, it is fair to trust that she can ran a better and smoother campaign, and she will be able to pick someone who is capable to do the work, right? Well, I am not sure what she has learned from her 35 years of experiences, if she can’t even run a good campaign, how can you trust her to run the white house? Also, if she picked the people who is loyal to her to work for her, rather than people who are more capable, how can you trust her to be able to pick the right CAPABLE group of people for the cabinet ? Reminded me of another Bush, picking those who he trust, but not capable to get the job done. On top of that, if something goes wrong, find a scapegoat… that’s Patti Solis… everyone knows, if something goes wrong in the organization, the leader is at fault. Clinton can’t even admit that, hmm.. another reminder of Bush.. not admitting fault, just find a scapegoat.
Posted by: SheIsTheNextBush | February 14, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Obama has been in elected office longer then Clinton , and he is clearly more trust worthy , and has better leadership qualities.
Plus he is much more electable then Clinton or McCain.
He could very well be the best President this country has ever seen.
NO MORE CLINTON SCANDALS IN THE “PEOPLES WHITE HOUSE”.
Posted by: James Brown | February 14, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Saying that Clinton has 35 years of expeience , is like saying the Brain Surgeons wife is qualified to do surgery on you……….LOL.
The woman is good at a couple things though ………playing second fiddle to Bills girl friends , and SCANDALS.
Posted by: James Brown | February 14, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
James Brown what experience? As a State Senator? That’s no difference than being on the city council. The fact is he no record to scrutinize period. There is a reason US Senators don’t become president. It’s because they have records you can scrutinize and pick apart.The fact is Obama is an empty suit and with empty promises of Hope.Pa lease
Posted by: MR | February 14, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
It does not matter which Democratic canidate has a few more points, than the other. The fact is it’s too close to call. Even if Obama has fewer deligates, he will still be the nominee. It is more politically correct to put an African-American male in the White House, than a white woman. Pittiful.
Posted by: TexasVoter | February 14, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Hillary won’t win both TX and OH. She’s finished.
Posted by: unconcerned_american | February 14, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Evan: That co-presidency line is so chauvinistic. You clearly don’t know about strong, intelligent women and just how independent we are. I realize that it’s difficult for many women and men to conceive of the possibility that a woman can make those really big decisions all by herself. Oh, please, get a grip. Hillary is way more intelligent than most men including Obama and she stands on her own two feet. Guys and some women, just don’t get it. Sad about the women who can’t see themselves persevering through the tough test Hillary has passed. She has and they can also. It’s Hillary in charge and Bill knows that.
Posted by: AmazonTraveler | February 14, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
I can’t wait till the general election to see how many Obama supporters jump ship to McCain. LOL. It’s funny ever state Hillary has won is the ones the democrats will win in the general election. Those reds states Obama won won’t even be in play in November and that’s a fact not only a fact but also a scientific fact. I’ve been voting for 25 yrs and it’s always been like that and it isn’t going to change. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.
Posted by: MR | February 14, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Demo what real change are you talking about? His speeches?
Posted by: MR | February 14, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
There are a lot of he said/she said here.. and there are many things they did, voted, can’t really be verified by regular voters without having the resources to dig into further. All the attacks and “true or false claims” each candidate make are just to protect their own standing. So, if we don’t look at he said she said, and not look at the attacks and claims, let’s just based on what we see everyday on TV, pictures on newspapers, you can see which candidates are running for themselves (power hungry), and which candidates really have a message for everyone. Just look at every rally from all current and past candidates (democrats and republicans). Everyone has their last name printed on the rally paper cardboard held by supporters, (except Hillary has her first name, show a sign of ego on her). ONLY Obama’s rally does not see signs and signs of his last name, but signs of CHANGE. That’s the message for EVERYONE, that’s the campaign for EVERYONE, and not the campaign for himself.
Posted by: SheIsTheNextBush | February 14, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Goodbye! Time to move on. This post is becoming more ridiculous with each entry. No more discussion of the issues–just same old jargons spitting back and forth from people accusing Obama supporters of being really for McCain (MR) when there is absolutely no evidence of that–sounds like another Clinton spin to me) and women who think that any woman who votes for Hillary doesn’t have enough confidence in herself to know better (Amazontravelor)–you doth protrest too much. And finally there are those bigots so consumed with hatred for peolpe who are not ‘just like them’. It’s not about race, sex, gender (all men aren’t oput to get you, AMAZTRAV)), or religion.
Posted by: goodbye | February 14, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
A piece of news regarding John Edwards’ endorsement debating between Clinton and Obama troubles me deeply. Edwards found that Obama might not be as tough as Clinton when he up to making decisions. His aids showed Obama’s voting records in Illinois State Senate and in the Federal Senate. Obama voted 100 times “present” as a Senator of Illinois State and had 44% absent rate in the US Senate voting record. This really puzzled Edwards and puzzled me as well. As a Senator, when you need to make a decision, you either vote “present ” or simply absent from the voting. This tells us what? There are several possible reasons for voting “Present” 1) He did not do enough home works to prepare; therefore, he did not want to vote the bill that he did not understand well enough to vote. This is the best guess. 2) He was unable to judge whether the bill was right or wrong, so he give up his right to say “yes” or “No”; instead, in order to keep his name in the voting record to prove that he did show up, he vote “present” 3) He was not dare to up against the interest groups of either sides, so he vote “present”, not to hurt anybody so that he could maintain “friendship” with all interest group. In return, these interest groups could support him when he needed. 4) He really believes voting “Present” represented the best interest of the people. Although this sounds very odd, but it can still be listed as a possibility. His 44% absents voting record in the US Senate could only tell us 1) Of his two years experiences in the Federal government branches, he only worked about half time there. 2) He cares his personal political carrier much more than our national interest.
Bema talks thousands of thousands time of the word “change”, but just from his voting record, do you really think he has enough credits to be trust that he is really able to carry out the kind of “Change” our country need? Is he really qualified to be our president? “Change” is a multi-directional word. It can go right, and it can go wrong. Bush changed the war policy and we suffered badly because of that “change”. This was a very expensive lesson that we must learn. Right now, we are electing a president of our great country, not an American Ideal. This is a very serious business. We need to be extra careful, my fellow Americans!
Posted by: fangqi | February 14, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Reply to fangqi (3:25:09: wE ALSO NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT ESTABLISHING AN AMERICAN DYNASTY ALA BUSH/CLINTON.
Posted by: ohwellonemore | February 14, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
MR, I am not based on the campaign just on signs, since everyone has talked about other points, there is no point for me to add any further. I thought I just brought in a different perspective that’s have not been discussed.. purely on human psychology point of view.
About CHANGE, every presidential candidates have brought up CHANGE, now and in the past. But none of the candidates can draw people from different groups together (race, gender, age group, etc.) You have to give it to Obama that he has the capability to do that. That’s just his talent, able to unite, but not divide. Most of the other candidates have more strength on dividing the country.. which is not what the country need right now. You just cannot find peace if people cannot stand together. Also, read between the lines on each candidates’ plans, there are differences, so it is unfair to say that Obama has the same plan as Hillary. I am sure you will find a lot of reports on that on the time to come…
Posted by: sheisthenextbush | February 14, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
JEFF,
Regarding your comment about governing in New Orleans. The City of New Orleans (I am from there) has been governed by black mayors and members of the City Council since I was born. And, I have been paying income taxes for quite a few years now.
I can tell you that New Orleans ranks at the bottom in almost every level – crime, education, per capita income, etc… Oh, and corruption. This is for both pre and post Katrina. I love it for its culture, music and cuisine, but cannot recommend living there as it is like a banana republic.
Posted by: predictable123 | February 14, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
JEFF,
Re-read your comments, and I missed your sarcasm – sorry.
Posted by: predictable123 | February 14, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
Hey goodbye it is a known fact that Obama supporters are not real democrats. I’m a real democrat and I don’t trash the Clintons years with the greatest economy ever. Do you see republicans trashing the Reagan years? No you don’t. That’ how I know this people in here are McCain supporters. I will support Obama once he’s in that’s the difference. That’s a huge difference. I vote policy not personality. I don’t care if an IMAC ran this country as long as it is programmed to the policies in which I agree with.
Posted by: MR | February 14, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
This coutry is in such bad shape it no better then it was 40yrs. and 50yrs ago. Why is so many people playing the race card game. I understand why God is doing what he doing all over the world, wake up USA this in no laughing matter you all need too be Pray day and night for a united country but it more divide then ever. Wake up america this is what the other races want see us fight among another it such nonsense. I guess they laughing at how stuip a lot of America people. This coutry will never be ready for a black,or any other race for President they so used too nothing but white because they think this is white America but just wait so or later it not going to be a white President so wake up America it coming sooner then you think, so get over it.
Posted by: caralay | February 14, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
That’s America…sorry
Posted by: MR | February 14, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
MR; is a true Hillary supporter, if she told him to jump off a bridge he would say ok!
Posted by: Listen Up | February 14, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Just what will Hillary do on day 1 ??– specifics please!!!
Posted by: paulet | February 14, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
To Paul: Did it occur to you that the rainbow of people standing behind Obama during his speeches may be “planted?” For that matter, there certainly are other supporters besides whites surrounding Hillary. Let’s be fair.
Posted by: Dee | February 14, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
No Listen up I’m a democrat that will support either candidate and not trash them the way you republican trolls trash the Clintons. Your little village idiot Bush ruined this country with his dismal record of failure and disregard of the will of the people. You and Demorules are clearly McCain supporters that will jump ship once Hillary is out. I would bet at least 40% of the Obama supporters are really McCain people in drag. Jump off a bridge? LOL you so-called Obama Kool-aid drinkers are the one’s inspired by the empty rhetoric of change.
Posted by: MR | February 14, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
McCain and Hillary=War-Mongers
Posted by: Mom First | February 14, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
I wish all the Hillary supporters would go Volunteer, for Iraq so, our Real American Hero’s can come home!
Posted by: The Patriot | February 14, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
Obama=empty rhetoric and nothing else. So he gives a good speech. Big deal a good speech doesn’t put food on the table and gives you good affordable health care. I hope Obama supporters are accountable when McCain wins.
Posted by: MR | February 14, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Tony…I DID vote for Hillary. I just don’t like the issue that it is alright to criticize her, slam McCain, disk Huckabee, but with Obama, it is hands off. I always vote for who I want; they never seem to win. I voted for Gore-he lost. I voted for Kerry-he lost. I voted for Hillary…I was for McCarthy, McGovern, Bobby Kennedy. they all took their hits from the media.
And. yes, the last time I checked, I still did have my common sense and I worked on Hillary’s campaign as well making calls. So, I really don’t care what they say about her; no one is perfect, not even Obama.
Posted by: KC | February 14, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Obama does give a good speech when he has rehearsed it or has it on a teleprompter. when he is on his own, he hesitates, isn’t as eloquent. He needs to have more than speeches to convince me.
Posted by: KC | February 14, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Another republican makes a statement at N.Illinois University. Hate to see the buggers unravel like this…
Posted by: broken arrow | February 14, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
I got an idea for you so-Obama supporters (Hillary haters). If somehow by some miracle Hillary gets in just switch to McCain. We democrats don’t need or want you in our party. You are not welcomed.
Posted by: MR | February 14, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
I will vote for Hillary and so will a lot of my family and friends. We are hispanic. In Texas Hillary will win 90% of the hispanic vote,just like in California. We are the largest minority in the country and growing,we will never vote for a black,especially one that was a former Muslim.
We don’t want a pretender for president,we want a person with experience to lead our country,not someone that is as unknown as Osama Obama Hussien. It scares me to think that he might win the nomination.
All he says is that he is for change,so what does that mean? Change to what? From a white man to a black man,is that the change he is talking about?
I have never in my life seen so many blind sheep following a black sheep. It is pathetic. Wake up America before you commit the biggest mistake in you life.
If Obama should win the nomination,many democrats will vote republican,because they will not be able to stand voting for Osama Obama Hussien. I will probably not vote,if my choice is Osama Obama and the older then dirt McCain. McCain will be 74 years old on inauguration day,if he is lucky enough to be alive. With a person that old you just never know when he will croak.
Posted by: ehh | February 14, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
I live in PA. Fortunately, the latest poll shows Clinton ahead by about 17 points in Pa. She has a built-in buffer here too, because she has widespread support from the Governor Rendell and a strong base. She is going to win PA without doubt. She also is going to undoubtedly win OH and TX.
I was registered as an independent, but switched to Democrat so that I could vote for Clinton. She is the only one with solutions; he is stealing her ideas all of sudden as he tries to compete in OH and TX and PA. This is an example of how that he tries to piggback off others’ ideas. We need a president who leads, not follows and copies.
That Rasmussen poll that you are mentioning is not a good indicator. The Gallup poll showed Clinton up 13 points on Feb 3. Gallup is still showing them basically tied.
People are going to wake up and get tired of the rhetoric. Obama won the Potomic primaries because of the black masses indiscriminately voting for him at about a 90% rate. One third of the voters voting for you almost exclusively is near impossible to overcome. The states coming up are more representative of the American population as a whole. Obama is just lucky that he got the states favorable to him at the time he did.
Posted by: Jason | February 14, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
ehh What difference does it make if he use to be Muslim? You are just showing your ignorance and your racism. There is no room in the Democratic Party for people like you or your family if they believe like that. What’s this Osama Obama crap? Wow how cheeeese ball.
Posted by: MR | February 14, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
The fundmental differences between Senator Obama and Senator Clinton is character. Senator Clinton, by one poll, is only trusted by 16% of the population. Who within their right mind is going to vote for someone they cannot trust. Her campaign is dying and we as Americans can see this by the exodus of her top strategists, they do not want to stick with a losing and over-stressed team. Senator Clinton should not be allowed to lead the country. She has overwhelming character flaws. Americans cannot look to her as a role model. Our society, including our children, deserve better.
Posted by: NH | February 14, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Uhh NH character flaws? She won by landslides in NY twice. I hardly call that a character flaw. You listen to that drug dealer Rush Slimeball, Salvage and Hanity too much. What are the character flaws you are talking about? Those two strategist left because they were incompetent fools that put Hillary where she is now almost out of it. There were probably McCain plants.
Posted by: MR | February 14, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Anyone can dig up dirt and find character flaws on anybody. Character the is lamest thing I’ve heard from you Hillary haters. The media is totally behind Obama and they are going to say anything against Hillary and it’s working because I see you losers jumping on the Obama bandwagon. You people are no different than fair-weather fans
Posted by: MR | February 14, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Who are these Independent voters? The majority of Democrats (actually nearly 2/3 of Democrats) vote for Hillary Clinton over Barrack Hussein Obama. However, the Independent voters change all that. Why are we allowing Independent voters vote in Democrat’s Primary. These Independent voters could be Republicans behind the scene trying to mess up the Democrats. Obviously, those who registered as Democrats are heavily leaning towards Hillary Clinton (please check and keep checking national polls regarding registered Democrats). The Independent voters are really taking away what true Democrats want. The Independent voters should be allowed to vote only their own Independent Primary. If Democrats are allowed to vote in Republican’s Primary, what do you think the Democrats will do?
Posted by: henry | February 14, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
I totally agree with you Henry. 2/3 of all democrats do support Hillary. I don’t get why they are letting these republican fence sitters better known as independents vote in the democratic primary. I blame Howard Dean for that.
Posted by: MR | February 14, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
O-Bambi is a rookie.
Serving in the Illinois State Assembly doesn’t mean much more than nothing.
That’s the minor leagues.
Also, O-Bambi has been buying delegates, spending far more than Senator Clinton to do so.
Read the article on this very site about it.
Obama is a hypocrite. He says he is above typical politics, but he is trying to buy delegates for the nomination.
Also, look at the Rezko Scandal and how Obama got a two million dollar mansion.
Why do these Obama Zombies want a rookie in the White House???
Posted by: Frederick | February 14, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
No wonder this nation is going down the drain-people believe in promises not on reality-no wonder CA, NY, MA is soo different fr the rest of America-people here think & dont just take this Obama HOPE rhetoric-mostly same states that got Bush is taking bait of this Obama promises, unbelievable! America -stop being emotional -we’re in crisis!
Vote Hillary! & stop listening to male dominated media people!
Posted by: marianCA | February 14, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
Hillary wins New Mexico today!!!!! That delegate count puts her back in the lead over obama, doesn’t it??? YEAH!!!
I just LOVE James Carville!!!! He undoubtedly is the smartest man, who knows the Democratic Party inside and out, like no other Democratic strategist does. And the fact that he is married to the republican strategist lady, is so cool!!
Posted by: Illinois for Hillary | February 14, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
americans do not need a candidates who can tickle their hopes with inspire them with rhetorics but someone who have the skills to make good decisions
Posted by: aimer | February 14, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
clintons for pres. two heads are better than one plus they have experience and learned from their mistakes, its sweeter the second time around.
Posted by: aimer | February 14, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON OFFERS SOLUTION
vs
SENATOR BARACK OBAMA GIVES SPEECHES
VOTERS THE DECISION IS IN YOU HAND!
Posted by: Sam Lim | February 14, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
This US democratic political race has awoken the American people from their “consumerism coma,” finally. Now that we are all awake we will do the right voting thing on the upcoming Tuesdays, Feb 19 and Mar 4. Politicians of America you have been notified, we the people are awake and thinking, choosing what is truly right for this great country. Business as usual, politics as usual will not do … and so the right change is taking place all over this united nation. Keep up the good work, this participation is our constitutional right.
Posted by: California Woman | February 15, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
Wow Juli An, you really don’t think Hillary has made changes? She has done so much for this country. She got healthcare for 6 million kids in this country…kids are vulnerable, they don’t have the choice of choosing healthcare or not. She gave it to them. She got a program going to prevent teen pregnancies and the rate of teen pregnancies dropped dramatically, the Bush got in office and put a stop to it and teen pregnancies are on the rise again. Hillary fought for the protection of the NY fire fighters when Bush said they couldn’t get sick from breathing in asbestos and pcp’s. She fought until they had the funds to take tests and get taken care of. She was a large part of the reason that the education systems in Arkasas went from the worst, to one of the best. The list goes on and on. Can you tell me ONE accomplishment/achievement of Obama? One change that he has made?
Posted by: Bridgette | February 15, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
Oops, that comment goes to Demo Rules, not Juli An
Posted by: Bridgette | February 15, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Hillary’s Experience helped get us into the War In Iraq! Join me fellow moms with kids in Iraq, and Vote no to Hillary!
Posted by: Mom First | February 15, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am
Oh well, you win some and you lose some. In this case, you win some and you lose more. Oh well! That’s the way the cookie crumbles into very small pieces!
Posted by: Daleri | February 15, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Go With The Flow !!!
Something Is Happening!
We Cannot Explain It.
We Cannot Do Anything About It.
Moving Foward.
Go With The Flow!!!
Posted by: Mary | February 15, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Sure that lead-in was not FORAGING AHEAD??? Like scouring the hinterlands for support? I thought Carville was her unpaid consultant, and he is telling her to what????? Getting her ready to concede maybe??? Bill C already admitted OBAMA might win, and Hillary says she will stay in the senate and help the country recover. In contrast, Johnnie Edwards dropped his NC Senate seat so Liddy Dole could scarf it up. Gee thanks, Johnny, picked up yout toys and went home so we all couldn’t play????
Posted by: daddyblue | February 15, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Could someone please inform me of a single accomplishment achieved by Senator Clinton experience, hers only not her husband’s or the congress of the time. She may have tried to offer solutions before, remember her health care debacle, but no one was willing to listen to her. I am not sure any president can accomplish anything with 49% unfavorable rating. If there has ever been time for this nation to get rid of the red and blue lines divide, it is now. The least you can say for Obama, he offers hope. What does Mrs Clinton offer?
Posted by: Nassim | February 17, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Did anyone else notice that the Obama began doing better the minute Romney dropped out of the race? It’s clear they think they can beat Obama easier. Obama’s dirt is that there’s some conflict of interest on health care due to his wife’s employer, and that he used poor judgement buying a piece of land from someone under indictment, even though he paid full price. Better it come out now than with Rove spin.
Posted by: sds | February 29, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
The honeymoon is over—will we see the real Obama now? What else is he hiding? He has lied repeatedly, yet the media still handles him with kid gloves. Though the Democrats will not have a nominee until August, unless Hillary Clinton drops out, Obama is the frontrunner, and its time America takes a closer and deeper look at him. He promised ‘change’. I’m afraid his change may not be good for America. The question is: “Who is Barack Hussein Obama?” The problem is: “Nobody knows!”
Posted by: proudamerican2008 | March 25, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am