Clinton’s High-Priced Political Consultants
ABC News’ Rick Klein Reports: Is Howard Wolfson worth 22 Robert Gibbses?
Wolfson and Gibbs are the communications directors for the remaining Democratic presidential contenders — Wolfson for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., Gibbs for Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.
The latest campaign finance figures show that Wolfson was paid $266,000 for his services last month. Gibbs, meanwhile, makes $144,000 a year — $12,000 a month, according to a report in the Los Angeles Times on Friday.
The two men come to their jobs with vastly different experiences and portfolios. Gibbs came straight from Obama’s Senate office, while Wolfson is a more seasoned political operative who suspended a lucrative career in the private sector to work for Clinton, whom he serves as a top-level adviser in addition to managing her communications operations.
But the disparity in pay speaks to a larger truth about the Democratic race: Clinton is burning through money faster than she can raise it, while Obama continues to sock cash away even while out-spending Clinton on advertising in key states.
Obama raised $36 million in January, and spent $29.8 million, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. In the same month, Clinton raised $13.9 million and had to float herself a $5 million loan; she spent $27.7 million — just $2 million less than Obama, even though she was out-raised by more than a 2-1 margin.
And what she’s spending the money on is raising eyebrows. She spent $95,000 on groceries at a Hy-Vee discount supermarket in West Des Moines, Iowa — supplying her caucus supporters with deli trays, in a contest she ultimately lost to Obama.
The New York Times reported Friday that the firm of her top strategist, Mark Penn, has billed the campaign for more than $10 million in consulting, direct mail, and other services, including $3.8 million in January alone.
Obama has his high-priced consultants as well — top strategist David Axelrod’s firm has raked in $1.2 million so far — but Obama appears able to afford it: With a superior online fundraising operation, Obama continues to raise well in excess of $1 million a day, according to his campaign.
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Posted by: Mom First | February 22, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
I’m sure if Hillary had control over the US budget things would be different.
Posted by: Radmanaustin | February 22, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Radmanaustin; Your right things would be different she would have us, still in the poor house 4 years from now!
Posted by: The Patriot | February 22, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Hillary get prepared to accept another crown of defeat.
How can you spend more than you raise? And yet you are claming Bush of ditching the country in a pithole by over-expending.
Please anyone out there, educate the elders (65 years and above) as they are the ones mainly voting for her.
Posted by: Peace | February 22, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
If Hillary is elected President, then the us deficit will be part of the guiness books. US will be borrowing money from North korea, Iran, China, Mali, Kenya, Liberia and Lybia. A lady who cannot manage her campaign will not be able to manage the US economy or her own governement, period.
Posted by: BKMC | February 22, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
If the delegate count after Wisconsin wasn’t the knock out punch, these reports of campaign mismanagement are, I think.
Remember, Obama can absorb blow-out losses on March 4, and go on to the next contests with a still-commanding though smaller delegate lead. Clinton may not be able to do this, even if she wins big in a week and a half.
And it looks like neither Texas or Ohio is promising for a big Clinton win.
Posted by: Paul | February 22, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
If Obama wasn’t such a puppet (like Bush) I might vote for him. But I want change, real change. Someone who will stand up to the establishment, not bow to them.
Posted by: Chris | February 22, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
It is time to say Bye Clinton and we do appreciate your service!
Posted by: John Elias | February 22, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
“I’m sure if Hillary had control over the US budget things would be different.”
Like what? Deli-trays for all? Hillary can’t manage her own campaign – more money and responsibilities will enhance her ability?
Posted by: MidwestIowa | February 22, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
If you can’t successfully run your own national campaign – how in god’s name can you run the country?? Can any Hillary supporters explain that to me?? If Obama runs the country that way he is smoothly running his campaign we should be A-OK
Posted by: liberalOhio | February 22, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
I find it ironic that so many of you think Obama will do better with the economy than Hillary can. What do you think Obama is going to do about unemployment, social security and the deficit? Obama is not Superman, and as soon as he gets in office and screws up most of you will turn your backs on him just like you’ve done every other president. Obama is not a saviour people!
Posted by: Martin | February 22, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Last night debate Hillary was the best, Obama too boring. RNC noticed it. They will make a weapon of it/capitalized it as the weakest candidate ever. No agenda, a copycat repeating what Hillary spoke about, and could not wait his turn to answer always raising his finger to talk. About what? Obama’s body’s gesture showed a sign of weakness. Can we afford to have a commander in chief like him? What a disaster for America. Hope people will wake up and see the reality.
Obama is media created hype. He is not ready to lead this country. I will vote for Clinton. Thank you.
Posted by: VJ | February 22, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
And we’re supposed to trust her to run things better in the White House? One of the important things about being president is surrounding yourself with a high caliber of people who are responsible on all levels. Hillary has certainly not done that within her campaign and she has continuously mismanaged funds,but… um…we’re supposed to assume she’ll do fine with our country? Also, on a personal side note, Mark Penn gives me the creeps every time he opens his mouth or I read something by him.
Posted by: jsb | February 22, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Becky…..I’m with you 100%. I’ve always voted Democratic; however if Obama is the nominee I will cross over and vote for McCain. At least we know what were getting. Everyone is singing the Obama Change song. I can’t wait for him to fall from grace!
Posted by: Martin | February 22, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
This was a good article, as it brought up something I haven’t read elsewhere. (too many stories are repeats) It does seem telling that Clinton seems to be spending her money unwisely. Just compare the expense for top strategist for the two campaigns, Clinton has spent $10 million dollars for the services of her top strategist’s firm, while Obama has only spent $1.2 million dollars, according to this story. That is a huge difference. Obama knows how to get his moneysworth during his campaign bodes well for how he will decide to spend our tax dollars as our president. As an aside, I just read a very detailed, researched blog comparing the legislative successes of Clinton and Obama in an article at dailykos.com by someone called Grassroots Mom. She very throughly read through all the legislation each candidate has put forward, introduced and passed at the Library of Congress Website. Obama’s quality of legislation, the number of important co-sponsors he got from both sides of the aisle and success in passing his bills was very impressive, while Hillary’s was not. Why can’t the media report on this information, it is all public, all easily accessible on Library of Congress’s website? Are there a shortage of true journalists? Thanks to Grassroots Mom, whoever she is, for taking the two hours to research and list the bills each candidate passed. The list is further evidence that Obama is the much better candidate.
Posted by: Lydia | February 22, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
TIred of this – Hillary don’t inspire people like he does and his whole campaign is on speeches and nothing else. She also got some hate folks against her
Posted by: phil | February 22, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Obviously Economics 101 wasn’t Hillary’s best subject. Wonder what her plan is to straighten out her own financial affairs before tackling the national budget. Perhaps she intends to pop in on the Senate floor for a moment, and add some more earmarks for her defense industry and pharmaceutical backers in exchange for more donations.
Posted by: GC | February 22, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
At this point – I think the idea of united the two is dead. There is too much bad blood between each campaigns supporters and followers. Question now will be: Does Obama have the substance to defeat McCain – and discussing Change in Washington is good, but he has to produce a plan! McCain is no small time politican.
Posted by: BronxBoy7117 | February 22, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Lydia: I saw that too. And I was astonished. Here is a woman who’s whole campaign is how she has “35 yrs” experiance…yet in those 35 yrs what has she done? The few yers that Obama was in the Senate he did a laundry list of legislative bills. What that says to me is, even tho this man may lack experiance, he has done what Hillary was cleary incapable of. ANd I for one would feel alot more comfrtable with him in the WH.
Posted by: Michelle | February 22, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Sorry for the mis-spellings..keys are sticking! ;-)
Posted by: Michelle | February 22, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Glad too see her spending her money wisely. I don’t want to know what she’s going to do with my tax money if she gets in office.
Posted by: jt | February 22, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
It’s time those clintons to just ride off into the sunset. get them off my TV I don’t want to ever have to look at those faces again. Don’t want to hear that name on my new progr Together there isn’t an ounce of good in them.
Posted by: del | February 22, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Have no fear folks, once she is back in the White House, she can shore up her financial mismanagement by renting out the Lincoln Bedroom.
Posted by: heacedone | February 22, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Obama will fall flat on his face in November, and then Hillary will run again in 2012.
Posted by: NS | February 22, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
How about Obamas spending habits. You have just proven how irrelevant abc news is.
Posted by: Carmen | February 22, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
HILLARY CLINTON’S 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE BS: The first 15 years she spent in “public service” she worked for the biggest law firm in Little Rock, Arkansas. Her goal then: make as much money as possible, ethics be damned. Almost forgot her stint working in Goldwater’s campaign for president. Then there was White Water, Travelgate Vincent Foster, et al. Then there was her job working at Wal-Mart where she did an outstanding job of fighting off the workers attempts to organize a union for collective bargaining. And what a disaster her health plan was. When she took the DC Bar exam she failed twice. By then, she was fighting against the “Vast right-wing conspiracy.” Stole items from the White House and later gave them back – only because she was caught. The most extensive experience this woman has is serving tea to foreign dignitaries. Claimed to be a New Yorker so she could run for the senate. She has a reputation of being the queen of earmarks and recently secured a 1.5 million dollar earmark awarded to a Harlem minister who endorsed her candidacy for President. She also has accepted more corporate donations than any of the Republican candidates.
Voted to authorize Iraq war; voted to give Bush power to go to war against Iran and voted for NAFTA. AND: Do you want an ex-con for a Co-President?
Posted by: Randle Bate | February 22, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Hillary had my vote, but this trend is alarming. She needs to have some real quick restraint if she is going to hang on to my vote. Unfortunately with Hillary, it seems to always be about the money. Is there any truth to this whole Peter Paul VS Hillary? Comments?
Posted by: Poorah | February 22, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Hil is overspending right now because she needs to. This is for the office of the President people. If she doesn’t win this election, she can’t help the country. It’s not like when she gets elected, and she will get elected, that she is going to blow through money like this.
Posted by: Jason | February 22, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
It’s none of your business how much she’s spending on her OWN campaign…. Of course, Barry Hussein Obama doesn’t have to spend that much because he’s getting FREE good press every single day!!!
Posted by: DMK | February 22, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Campaign spending is a nice sample for Clintons’ 35 years experience. If she had suffered for americans, she will be tired and now she will think about taking retirement. But Clintons enjoyed more from Americans and still they are jealous to enjoy more by riping Americans. She is again and again talking about Health Care. People understood clearly that Clintons are just sugar coating for election. The best way to provide good health to americans is an affordable health insurance. Affordable health care is not possible until we have a lobbyists controlled commander. Well know that Clintons are far enough good for corporates and lobbyists. Good ideas are easily killed by these lobbyists and the brain of white house is almost made dead by these corporate lobbyists. For any job experience is a must. But experience of Clintons are not agreeable and categorist as the worst.
Particulary Clintons is having a 100% false resume. We need a president who should watch the fort standing with people and not a president who watch people from the fort standing with lobbyists. Clintons are like president watching people from fort. OBAMA is a person who watches the fort with the people. We trust bible just for the words of Jesus and the whole world is running on trust of these words. The same way I trust the words of OBAMA. Do not allow cheating Clintons to rule you.
Posted by: Marmayogi | February 22, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
It is really simple, Obama inspires people, mainly the people that are in touch with technology and they donate to his campaign via the internet. The people voting for Clinton are out of touch with technology. The time has come where the baby boomers no longer control this country. Obama gets his message out and doesn’t need to use the TV. Clinton has no choice, her supports only have dial up.
Posted by: Mark | February 22, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Mr. President Obama—Please do what is right for our country. Get us out of the middle east, Korea and Germany. Spend the money for the people not the military. We want you to end the clinton-bush garbage and be for the people which we believe you will.
Posted by: rockychance | February 22, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Mark – It isn’t that “The people voting for Clinton are out of touch with technology,” it’s that the Clinton base is uneducated, and can’t use technology. Obama wins with those with an education.
Posted by: Namako OH3 | February 22, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Namako OH3…… That was really funny! Thanks for the joke… “Obama wins with those with an education”…. That’s got to be quite an education….. I am sure you haven’t had a chance to read some of the inane posts made at this site and others by those “educated” people…..
Posted by: DMK | February 22, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Hillary’s true side is slowly emerging-someone who can’t spend money quick enough. And we are supposed to trust her with the Presidency. Go home Hillary!
Posted by: terri | February 22, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
yes, Hillary’s campaign has had management problems, but just because Barack Obama has an excellent campaign doesn’t mean he is going to be a perfect president. Hillary is a workhorse and Barack is a showhorse.
Posted by: SoniaB | February 22, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Clintons are investing for a huge harvest. They may even try to buy some super delegates. Even though Clintons are now the symbol of fail. Over spending is a not a good thing for anybody in this world. Think do we need a overspending business people to rule us or a common man to work for us. I hate rulers and Clintons. I honour the person who thinks about us and work for us. So, I decided myself away from Clintons and to stay with OBAMA – who always work for people.
Posted by: Marmayogi | February 22, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Obama is a diaster waiting to happen. He is a copycat, plagiarist, empty shirt, no experience, no solutions, big talker. Big metaphors like a preacher man. No substance. The R’s are waiting to shred him for his crooked dealings with Rezko, his dope adventures, his muslim background, his lack of experience…he was a state legislator just two..get it TWO years ago. The man is not ready for Prime Time. A vote for Obama is a vote for McCain. Go Hillary, 08.
Posted by: mb | February 22, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
If Obama/Osama’s supporters spent as much time working for his campaign as they did filling every single blog in the blogosphere with their sexist, misinformed, belligerent rants, maybe he would have some original words, much less IDEAS.
Posted by: mb | February 22, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
another smear by the main stream media MSM. Now that Hillary is getting some online donations, they want to discredit her. I wonder how much he has to pay for OPRAH’s services?
Posted by: Ruby Sing | February 22, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Let’s see here. Hillary is spending more than she earns. Hillary pays $7500 for a drama coach. Hillary NEEDS a drama coach to help “find her voice” and her so called “35″ years of experience. (should it really take someone that long to “find their voice”?). Hillary is the most despised member of Congress (yet she claims to be THE uniter). Hillary has been quoted as saying “I will demonize anyone who gets in my way” (does that sound like a head statesman/person to you?). Hillary has accused Obama of using other peoples quotes but also states the she may have used other peoples quotes too). Hillary is worth a reported $34-40 million dollars, this after being a self-proclaimed “public servant” for 35 years. (do you know anyone else who is a public servant that makes more than $50K/year?). Hillary REFUSES to release her tax returns UNTIL AFTER the election. (if she is not hiding anything, why not release them now?) Hillary’s closest friend and advisor for many years has been quoted as saying “Hillary lies with such ease”, Hillary accused Obama of taking money from Rezko, but SHE also took money from Rezko. Hillary has said she will be ready to lead from day one. (with what actual experience?) Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, when will this chirade end? It’s hard to believe there are people foolish enough to vote for the single worst politician (and person) in American politics. Shame on the people who voted for this disaster of a person.
Posted by: Barbara | February 22, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Nominating Obama for President is like making a New Year’s Resolution. It sounded good at the time.
Posted by: Truth | February 22, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
The whole thrust of this article is biased for Obama. Well, ABC, I don’t want another inexperienced person in the Oval Office. Obama’s smooth talk does not lure me at all. He’s still a neophyte who thinks he is ready for the White House…that is too big a chance to take on a novice.
Posted by: Two-cats | February 22, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Doesn’t really matter who wins, in the end we all lose!
Posted by: Ken | February 22, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Victor, and what has Obama done??? As Spiegel (you know Spiegel?) recently put it, “The future Obama is promising seems foggy and indistinct. He wants to change the rules of engagement in politics, but he neglects to explain how and in what direction. He wants to write a new page in the history books, but what handwriting does he plan to use to make his entry? He wants to drive out lobbyists, but if he does, who will champion the interests of union members, war veterans and chemical corporations? He wants to negotiate with the world’s dictators, but to what end, exactly?. She [Hillary] uses language to explain, while Obama uses rhetoric to intoxicate. She tells voters what she is bringing to the table. He tells them what they can become. If Clinton is a solid stock, Obama is an option. If she’s a secure investment, he is speculation”
Posted by: DMK | February 22, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Two-cats: Sadly, it’s not just ABC being biased for Obama… it’s pretty much the entire US media… So that’s why I choose to get my unbiased news from outside or foreign sources (e.g. Spiegel, BBC News, etc)….. I am so sick of all these anti Hillary news stories ……
Posted by: DMK | February 22, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Barbara, Like so many Obama supporters your words are so emotional yet void of truth. There is something very wrong when people make so many hateful statements that have absolutely no backing. I used to think that all this was coming from the Obama camp but I’v been listening to him and I don’t hear it. Maybe its the media I thought, but no, I don’t hear it there either. So it must be coming from somewhere inside of you and if you’re carrying all that hate inside of you, you should get some help and find out what it’s really all about. Good Luck.
Posted by: Truth | February 22, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
This page of comments represents well everything non-Obama supporters loathe about Obama supporters. So much for the message of unity which your leader apparently inspires! This page, and many others, is littered with anti-Clinton hate, slnder, filth and propaganda. You may like to know that these kinds of vile and inaccurate representations of Hillary Clinton by Obama fans serve to increase votes for Clinton – noone wishes to align themselves with a group of people who have such extreme and hateful views.
Obama’s capacity to raise funds bears no relationship with his ability or lack of ability to be the next US president. What it does demonstrate is that he and his campaign have a very good ability to convince people of something – what though they are being convinced of I remain unsure. But the kind of hate expresed towards Hillary Clinton in these kinds of public comments makes me wonder what kind of impact Obama’s message is REALLY having – it’s certainly not always a positive one.
Posted by: Muzza | February 22, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
“Clinton raised $13.9 million and had to float herself a $5 million loan; she spent $27.7 million.”…A prelude to BUDGET DEFICIT, written all over the wall!..In: $13.9M + $5M = $18.9M…Out: ($27.7M)…Balance sheet:($8.8M)…
Elect this woman to the White House, and we will see 1 Euro = US$10.00!!!
Posted by: ablanche | February 22, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Clinton dropped a lot of cash on a small rally in Madison, WI. No invite or donation needed, but it had drinks, snacks, and two bands playing. A little food for the crowds waiting for a couple hours to get in is courteous, but this….unless a lot of that (especially the bands) was donated, it definitely makes me question her fiscal responsibility.
Posted by: madtown | February 22, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
You all are incorrigble. People log on to the internet everday, log on to blogs without comment and enjoy you tearing yourselfs down!
Hillary Clinton strategised and did not foresee her self running this long for the ticket considering what the polls showed last year. This explains the dilemma she has found herself in, it was not born out of bad judgement. She is as capable as anyone else to lead a nation! Just as Obama has been fortunate to have to ordinary Americans supporting him, that is his competitive advantage, the people. Both campaigns had good teams but one of the teams did not see a day beyond super tuesday. Respect people who are willing to face public scrutiny because of selflessness towards leading your country. Your franchise is your vote. Cast it when expected of you and don’t become a monger for change or distortion of character! Respect your candidates.
Posted by: Ugo Nwaukor | February 22, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
Obama will take Texas.
Posted by: Kate | February 22, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
Who would be so dumb to give the Clinton’s a penny. Not a wise investment. If Hillary is president we will see our troops serve under a UN commanding general. Taxes will go through the roof! And she will push for nationalized health care, which is a proven joke in other countries.
Posted by: john | February 22, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Hillary has always been the underdog, and the media has never supported her, all we are really seeing is people going with the flow. They agree on 95% of the issues. But with 76% negative coverage for her, compared to only 36% negative for Obama, we can easily see how the media can infuluence the outcome of an election, and dupe the public into believing Obama is so much different then Hillary and lastly how experience is not important. If you believe that you’ll believe anything that somebody tells you.
Posted by: sebastian | February 22, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Universal Healthcare is wonderful in England, and it’s worked fantasticly, instead of burdening the public with costly medical bills, insurance companies join in a coalition and thus are able to manage the high costs more effectively. Universal Heathcare that covers every American, will be one of are most astonishing acomplisments to date.
Posted by: John | February 22, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Can we afford any of this spending anymore. Maybe if the government lived within its means, and the candidates led by example, the American people might start living within their means too. Does everyone “need” the material goods that they buy with their overextended credit cards every month. We send our money to China, and with it our jobs, our gas money goes to terrorists in the Middle East who want to bomb us into oblivion. We will hang ourselves yet with our own rope as Kruschev predicted in the 1960′s.
Posted by: jim 234 | February 22, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Can we afford any of this spending anymore. Maybe if the government lived within its means, and the candidates led by example, the American people might start living within their means too. Does everyone “need” the material goods that they buy with their overextended credit cards every month. We send our money to China, and with it our jobs, our gas money goes to terrorists in the Middle East who want to bomb us into oblivion. We will hang ourselves yet with our own rope as Kruschev predicted in the 1960′s.
Posted by: jim 234 | February 22, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Someone is complaining that the whole article is biased against Hillary… she’s the one running out of money after living it up in Las Vegas. She didn’t plan beyond January and had trouble filling delegate spots for Pennsylvania. If you run a poor campaign, you risk losing. Where’s the bias? Obama raised more, flighted 3000 more ads than her after Super Tuesday and spent less lavishly. Those are the facts.
As for someone comparing Obama with Osama… It just shows how much effort some people will spend to demonize someone they don’t agree with. Comparing someone who has given 20 years of his life to public service in communities with a mass murderer is beyond negative, it’s just wrong.
Posted by: zb | February 22, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
I trust Hillary Clinton to lead this country with strength, compassion, and intelligence. She will be an even better President than Bill Clinton, who gave us eight years of prosperity despite the fact Newt Gingrich and His Jolly Band was in Congress. Well this time there is a new generation of Republicans, people that Hillary Clinton has worked with and earned their respect. So I just sent more money to her campaign so that she can have as many ads as Obama has. But I urge any of you in TX, PA, OH to attend one of Hillary Clinton’s Town Halls. I’ve heard Barak and he delivers good speeches but I prefer the person who stands on my level, listens to me, talks to me, and shares ideas and passion. Good leaders inspire with words, Great leaders are inspired by those they lead.
Posted by: cybermom75 | February 22, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Poorah: The case you mentioned is Paul vs Clinton as in Bill Clinton. It is a multi-million dollar case. The February 21, 2008 hearing to set a trial date has been delayed. California Supreme Court Judge Munoz is expected to set the trial date at an April 25 hearing. The case concerns 2000 Senate campaign contributions. There are any number of reputable websites that you can pull up to read about the case, and some not so reputable. I make no further comment.
Posted by: tcnz | February 22, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
NS – I am surprised you think that this is a story in support of Obama and that’s all.
I think this is a legitimate issue. For both candidates, their campaigns are the largest operations they’ve ever run, and it is a telling point who is running theirs efficiently, or not.
Posted by: andrew | February 22, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Mom First- Obama is not going to bring the troops home, he has said more than once that he wants to move the troops to Afghanistan. It’s like jumping out of the pan into the fire. McCain wants to keep the troops there for 100 years. Hillary seems like the only chance of bringing our love ones home.
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | February 22, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
This says nothing except wake up people!Obama has Oprah and her supporters buying the presidency. I for one will be voting for McCain if Obama wins. Our country cannot afford to take chances on long winded speeches.
Posted by: Donna | February 22, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Saw her today in Dallas – She was amazing, real, articulate, and speaking extemperaniously, without a prompter or script. Hillary supporters go online today and donate $10.00. I am educated, successful, self-imployed and a woman. I voted for Hillary today. Obama has outspent Hillary 5 to 1. Most of Hillary’s supporters are lower income who cannot afford to donate much if anything at all. Those of us who can are donating and are charged up and on fire to get Hillary to the White House.
Posted by: cmb | February 22, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Obama has the most number of people donating to him in history. He doesn’t need to setup some fraudulent campaign group because his donors has not reached their donation limit like Hilary’s donors has.
Posted by: JT | February 22, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
DMK – “It’s none of your business how much she’s spending on her OWN campaign.”
Yes it is my business. And yours, too. And the law agrees with me. That’s why candidates have to keep financial records, and periodically report them to the public.
Posted by: Paul | February 22, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
I’ll bet Obama spent more than Hillary last month, and THAT is not reported……in fact, I read where in the last batch of primaries (Wisconsin, Hawaii, etc.), he OUTSPENT Hillary 4 to 1……NOW THAT’S A LOT OF MONEY TO SPEND TO TRY TO CONVINCE PEOPLE YOUR CAMPAIGN IS NOT A DELUSION !!!!!! I guess it IS true, that in America, a person literally can BUY the Presidency, like obama is……
Everybody be sure and tell your young sons and daughters that it is a waste of time to work and build experience in politics to run for President of the United States…….all it REALLY takes is: a couple of years’ head start, friends with money, lobbiests’ with money, and a really “pretty face” and a good speech……nothing else matters—and hasn’t in the last 2 elections, either—–w. bush was elected!
Posted by: Hmmmmm.........the Truth | February 22, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Yes, Paul, I agree with you that “political candidates must keep financial records, and periodically report them to the public”.
I want to see obama’s list of campaign contributors and how much money each of them gave…….
Posted by: Hmmmmm.........the Truth | February 22, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
‘HILLARY CLINTON’S 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE BS: The first 15 years she spent in “public service” she worked for the biggest law firm in Little Rock, Arkansas. Her goal then: make as much money as possible, ethics be damned. Almost forgot her stint working in Goldwater’s campaign for president. Then there was White Water, Travelgate Vincent Foster, et al. Then there was her job working at Wal-Mart where she did an outstanding job of fighting off the workers attempts to organize a union for collective bargaining. And what a disaster her health plan was. When she took the DC Bar exam she failed twice. By then, she was fighting against the “Vast right-wing conspiracy.” Stole items from the White House and later gave them back – only because she was caught. The most extensive experience this woman has is serving tea to foreign dignitaries. Claimed to be a New Yorker so she could run for the senate. She has a reputation of being the queen of earmarks and recently secured a 1.5 million dollar earmark awarded to a Harlem minister who endorsed her candidacy for President. She also has accepted more corporate donations than any of the Republican candidates.
Voted to authorize Iraq war; voted to give Bush power to go to war against Iran and voted for NAFTA. AND: Do you want an ex-con for a Co-President?’
Randle Bate
Randle,
THAT is exactly what I have been trying to tell people all this time. Also, don’t forget that she did the same thing during her Senate campaign. She went through money like it was water and it ticked off alot of her supporters. People seem to forget Whitewater and Travelgate and the fact that she ran off with almost everything from the White House but the kitchen sink……claiming she “didn’t know” she couldn’t take those things. I for one will NOT vote for someone who has such blatant disregard for other people’s money (funny how she has no problem saving her own). She will bleed us dry with spending. I also find it suspicious that she will not release her tax returns. This is NOT about hating Hillary, this is about real issues. I want a President I can trust and I don’t trust her as far as I can throw her.
Posted by: tamsam07 | February 22, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
cmb: I am also a white professional woman, Master’s level education, and live in Illinois. I am also a Hillary supporter, and I have donated to Hillary’s campaign and plan to donate more tomorrow…….let’s show America the Presidency can’t be bought by Hip Hop musicians, actors and actresses, and athletes—–all supporting a “black” man for President, like oprah is.
The true American story and the one that will triumph will be the poorer Americans who so believe in Hillary that they will support her all the way to the White House. This is a fact.
And this is what is happening, slowly but surely. Keep your eyes on Hillary Clinton and see…….it is fate that she will become the President.
Posted by: Hmmmmm.........the Truth | February 22, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Hmmm the truth – best of luck. Who knows, maybe your contribution tomorrow will be the one that makes the difference.
Posted by: Paul | February 22, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Paul: it is no secret that, while obama “claims” that he does not take PAC money, he does not have to “take it”. The PAC organization MOVEON.ORG doesn’t have to GIVE him money—–they can just utilize their multi-million dollar media machine to produce Pro-obama and anti-Clinton media ads, and obama can just say, “Hey, guys ! I did NOT take any PAC money—ever!!”.
And what is MOVE-ON.ORG’s agenda that they want addressed if obama becomes President? Nobody gets something for nothing nowadays…..
Posted by: Hmmmmm.........the Truth | February 22, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
no tom, it will be a ANOTHER colossal mistake if we DON’T elect Obama!
Posted by: jenny | February 22, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Ken: my “Is it Jan. 9, 2009 YET???” means the end of the bush years—-YEA!!! (But since you gave me the thought, that’s also when Hillary will take the oath of office as President of the United States!!!!). I CAN’T WAIT !!!
Posted by: Is it Jan. 9, 2009 YET???? | February 23, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
She might be a decent candidate, though too polarizing for me, but her campaign has been run about as poorly as the Bush administration. Constant bungling, mismanagement of resources, and poor prioritizing. I don’t really want her to manage the economy if she has messed up her campaign finances this badly.
Posted by: Brent | February 23, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
Is it jan 9 yet–I don’t agree with much of your opinions politically, but your post on 11:11 was right on the mark.. I am 45.. and while I may be 180 degrees out of phase with you politically, I have been around long enough to know a couple of things about our system of politics.. enough to know that the democrats are looking at another 1968 if they are not careful. Enough to know that every major candidate – accept possibly Huckabee and Paul – lives and dies off special interest money. Was this administration bad..definately… do the democrats offer anything better.. I am not sure.. we need sweeping changes in this country, but changes to make us more socialistic are not the answer I believe.. but to get to the point of your post.. everyone under 30 should talk to someone over 45 about this country and where we went wrong and where we need to get back to. Empty rhetoric and the same old polys is not the answer.
Posted by: givemeabreak | February 23, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
Mom First –”My Son is Active Duty Military, lets bring our Sons and Daughters Home from Iraq, Vote Obama March 4th!” — if Obama is elected, expect your son to be home within the first year.. and he should get to stay home for at least another year.. before Obama sends him to Darfur… I mean, You are aware that Obama supports American intervention in the African genocide that is ongoing in Darfur.. Don’t you???
Posted by: givemeabreak | February 23, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
This is a smear campaign against Hillary, Zennie.
I can’t believe how much some people hate her just because she was a First lady.
Get over it.
Posted by: Angela | February 23, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
Just wait and see,if she will win Texas and Ohio, they will run to her…
They know they can trust her.
Posted by: Angela | February 23, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am
Angela –”I can’t believe how much some people hate her just because she was a First lady.” — We don’t hate her because she was first lady.. We dislike her because she is crooked, vindictive, has a sting of scandals behind her longer than her husbands and wants to convince us that 20 years as first lady along with 15 years as a corporate laywer for one of the countries most crooked firms equals 35 years experience for the presidency…
Posted by: givemeabreak | February 23, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am
Blogger: I am voting Obama!
Hillary follower: OMG, you are dividing the party! Obama has never done anything for anyone at anytime! You are being played by the Republicans for voting ‘empty suit’! if Obama wins the nomination I am voting McCain!
Neener neener.
Posted by: Beth | February 23, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
You say this either because you are a republican,which hated the Clintons or because you are mesmerized by Carter No.2 (Obama).
Posted by: Angela | February 23, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am
Hillary follower: Did I mention that I will hold my breath until the delegates from Florida and Michigan are seated?
Cuz I will.
Posted by: Beth | February 23, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
I hope they will. I am from Miami and voted for Hillary, Obama was running adds on TV and still people was smart enough not to vote for him.
I feel like DNC robed disenfranchised us, because some idiots moved the primary.
Why voters should pay for that.
Posted by: Angela | February 23, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am
jenny — ” it will be a ANOTHER colossal mistake if we DON’T elect Obama!” — really, please tell me what exactly that he stands for?? I mean, I am aware that he has used the words hope and change about ten thousand times, but what exactly is his plan? does anyone know?? words – though they can be powerful in the emotion they incite, are cheap if they have no substance behind them.. Are you sure there is substance with Obama??
Posted by: givemeabreak | February 23, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
A Obama staffer came out and said that withdrawing the troops isn’t a policy committment. I sincerely hope that Sen Obama does withdraw the troops if elected. BUT it bothered me when I read that only in the past day or so (either here on ABC or FOX) and it disturbed me even more when I read the post from MOM FIRST. I realised that as much as I would like him to withdraw troops there are solidiers families out there voting for him because of his no war vote and they are counting on him to withdraw troops. Of all the constituents he mustn’t let down these people are paramount. He must not play further games with them and their families lives. too many have been played already.
Posted by: Double check | February 23, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
Angela –”I feel like DNC robed disenfranchised us, because some idiots moved the primary.
Why voters should pay for that.” — Lets see, Hillary defied the DNC and left her name on the ballot even though Obama took his name off.. She affectively ran unopposed in the election and now wants that unfair advantage to count so she can have all those delegates… Does this seem honest and upstanding to you??
Posted by: givemeabreak | February 23, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am
Hillary talking points will get you nowhere. The ads Obama ran were nationwide and pre-approved by the DNC. The voters of Florida and Michigan should focus their anger at those ‘idiots’ who brought sanctions down in the first place.
The DNC needs to find an equitable solution to the problem. In the case of Florida, an argument can be made that delegates should be seated based upon choice via full ballot; perhaps cutting the delegates by half is enough of a sanction and would still allow a proportional voice to heard from the voters there.
Michigan is another story altogether. No one (except Hillary) can make the argument that it was a fair vote with but one viable candidate on the ballot. I see no really equitable solution outside of some sort of re vote.
You cannot change the rules mid stream.
This goes for Obama supporters as well. It would be nice if the superdelegates voted according to the will of the popular vote, but it must be realized the the superdelegates were expressly created to override the popular vote unless it was overwhlming.
Cant have it both ways.
Posted by: Beth | February 23, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am
I am sorry but givemeabreak has no idea what is he talking about.
I voted in Miami, Fl, everyone was on the ballot, and Obama came second and Edwards third.
Inform yourself before you talk.
On top of that, I saw his adds on TV and only he run adds. Which was against rules.
I simply can’t trust Obama after that.
Posted by: Angela | February 23, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am
It’s only you calling them rats. Not me.
It seems that you don’t like that super delegates exist.
Well I’m sorry for you, I don’t mind them, we will sure need them, nor Obama or Clinton will get enough elected delegates to be the nominee.
Posted by: Angela | February 23, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
Angela, prior to lunging against the restraints of your Hawking hoveround in an effort to post what your fingers raced ahead of your thoughts to type, it would be wise to actually read the post you are responding to. I clearly stated that Florida had a full ballot.
The DNC cleared the national ads. They are the keepers of the rules. No foul. You may or may mot trust Obama, but it is disingenuous to cite that as a reason.
In Michigan neither Obama or Edwards were on the ballot. (The only reason they remained on the Florida ballot was that lead times did not allow time for removal)
Posted by: Beth | February 23, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am
Beth I agree, you posted before i could answer. didn’t expected it.
Posted by: Angela | February 23, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am
Her mismanaged funds during this important campaign is a clear sign that she isn’t being real with the ole mighty dollar. The last excuse I want to here from her is that they didn’t plan for a longer campaign season. Give up the excuses, when you begin your campaign for President 2+ years before the actual Nov. primary anyone with any sense knows to budget, allocate so many dollars for each month. Her problems aren’t because of bad luck, part of her problems are because she is paying 3 people to campaign for her and all their expenses and not getting the right kind of return on that hopeful investment. I feel sorry for her but at the same time she isn’t setting a good example for women everywhere that wanted to admire her and support her on many fronts. That admiration is now gone, long gone unfortunately. I don’t think she is as detailed oriented about leadership and management as she would like us to believe.
Vendors that catered her events in Vegas and NY hadn’t been paid at the end of Feb. and they are small businesses, mom and pop places. The only reason they finally got paid this week is because one filed in small claims court and the other went straight to the TV station to complain.
Posted by: K gal | February 23, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am
only Senator Clinton can beat both mccain AND the conservative smear machine that will inevitably reveal its hand in the fall…..THE CHOICE IS SIMPLE: MCCAIN OR CLINTON
Posted by: Chris | February 23, 2008, 4:06 am 4:06 am
ONLY SENATOR CLINTON is capable of bring our troops home quickly and safely
Posted by: Chris | February 23, 2008, 4:08 am 4:08 am
Senator Clinton is already used to working twice as hard to get the job done because she has worked and lived in male-dominated professions for most of her life (law, politics). She will work twice as hard as President, not because she has to, but because she knows no other way to work. AND AMERICA WILL BE THE BETTER FOR HER OVERWHELMING DEDICATION TO THE JOB.
Posted by: Chris | February 23, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am
When Obama wins the nomination, there will be a huge groundswell of smart people who will decide to run for congress and try to unseat the “same old folks” who are in office now – democrat and republican. Just watch…
Posted by: Marcus Parrish | February 23, 2008, 4:54 am 4:54 am
“Clinton raised $13.9 million and had to float herself a $5 million loan; she spent $27.7 million”…Cash-in $18.9M, cash out $27.7M, cash flow -$8.8M or 46.5% OVER BUDGET. Man oh man, does this woman know how to balance her budget. Let her get into the White House folks, your Social Security will be gone, your 401K will be gone and even many White House silverwares will disappear.
Posted by: ablanche | February 23, 2008, 6:27 am 6:27 am
only proves that obama is bought and paid for already. He will act in the best interest of big money not the average american worker.
Posted by: Danny Stoltz | February 23, 2008, 6:42 am 6:42 am
Clinton keeps talking up her 35years experience and how she has been fighting for womens rights all over the globe. Eight years of which she did as first lady, yet she refuses to release her records from those years, what is she hiding? Please don’t hold your breath for Michigan delegates to be seated, 40% of the voters here braved the cold to vote for….no-one..I repeat 40% voted uncommited and another 20% didn’t even go out to vote..She would have lost MI and lost big, And if i’m not mistaken it was the Clintons who were pushing to have states move up their days to vote, when they thought she was going to win the nomination going away, now that she’s not don’t try to change the rules in the middle of the game, and don’t try to seat the MI delegates because it won’t fly here! In Michigan we all know it was our buddy Bill who pushed for NAFTA, and sent our jobs to Mexico, now she want’s to give us a moritorium on forclosures, what happens after that? Are our jobs coming back? And folks are right we don’t know what we will really get with Obama, but we do know what we’ll get with Clinton or McCain, and we don’t want it!!
Posted by: Ameen | February 23, 2008, 6:58 am 6:58 am
I’ve read all the comments of the folks who are Hillary supporters. I agree that most of the media reports are biased either for Hillary or against her. Likewise, they are either for Barack or against him. I’m a Barack supporter, but a lover of ABC News. I’ve found that Jake Tapper likes Hillary and George Stephanopolus doesn’t. At least, that’s how it looks. I usually get the “best” information from CNN because I find they are probably supporting Barack based on the way they report and analyze everything. That being said, this is probably the FIRST and ONLY unbiased article I have read to date. It is based on real numbers and based on numbers the public would be interested in knowing. I have always believed that the way a person spends their own money is the way they would spend your money. Just think about it. If you were died and had small children, but left a trust for your small children to access until they were adults, would you make the trustee Hillary or Barack? I think that is a fair question. What you want to ultimately make sure of is that your kids had everything they needed through college and hopefully into adulthood. What if all the money was gone by the 10th grade? Obviously, you wouldn’t be alive to know or have feelings on it. But as the saying goes, you’d be “turing over in your grave!” I’m a woman and I liked Hillary for many years. Now, I’m less sympathetic and empathetic to her candidacy. After all, she is the candidate with the silver spoon. She touts her public life record, but she has always had money. Her appreciation for having it and keeping it just aren’t like mine, I’m learning. She always seems to lack focus when she is losing. Instead of building herself and the campaign up, she engages in ad hominem politics. The conduct has the appearance of desperation. The fact is, American voters are SMART PEOPLE. There are enough media outlets both for and against her who will tell the unflattering stories of her opponent. When she does it, it hurts not only her campaign, but it makes the undecided Americans…decide…against her. Barack has spoken negatively of her, but he does it on the issues that are a part of the campaign, like the war in Iraq. We WANT to know how the politics are different. We don’t care that there was a missed opportunity for a 19th debate in Wisconsin. That ad, in and of itself, was a waste of money. I am not trying to change anyone’s mind. I know that Hillary’s staunch supporters will continue to support her. Likewise, Barack’s will to. But what will the folks who are undecided do?
Posted by: leleinmd | February 23, 2008, 7:16 am 7:16 am
The problem with Hilarious Clinton is that in her mind, she sincerely believes that she is running for First-Lady. Not for President of America.
Posted by: M.F.Machado | February 23, 2008, 8:03 am 8:03 am
Careful what you ask (vote) for. Remember the retroactive tax INCREASE Bill gave us? “I’ve worked harder these last two weeks than I’ve ever worked in my life, and I can’t give you that tax cut I promised.” Vote for change and you may get it…..CHANGE is all you’ll have left.
Posted by: We the Sheeple | February 23, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am
A deli tray on every table and a hybrid in every garage!!
From each according to their ability (pay your fair share), to each according to their need (minimum wage, healthcare, welfare, blah blah blah)!!
Sorry, that was Karl Marx paraphrased. My mistake. (They are so similar)
Posted by: We the Sheeple | February 23, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am
Obama has won it now, so it’s time for us Obama supporters to back off and be gracious. We want all the current Hillary supporters coming out to vote in November! It’s about winning classy.
Posted by: Rocky | February 23, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am
Is this still a headline?!?!!?
Posted by: DMK | February 23, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am
I’m seriously disappointed in the manner with which Hillary handles her campaign.That is not what I expected of 35yrs of experience she got. She could afford to pay $10m to a consultant but could not buy ads in Wiscousin(the state that supposed to go in her favor.)The demographics favored her but she lost. I can’t forgive her for spending my money unwisely. I worked very hard for it. I hope her campaign will account for every penny spent. This is a seriously ugly situation. I hope she lost to a more financed and better organized campaign. I wouldn’t have voted for her if I knew she would mismanage a small economy like her campaign. I don’t trust her to handle a bigger economy like my country. She seriously messed up.
Posted by: Yemie | February 23, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
To Mom First-Obama has said he would NOT gurantee that our troops would be out of Iraq in 2013 if he is elected.
Posted by: luke | February 23, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
It may be too much to ask but what are the figures from the Obama campaign. Oh, that’s right, we’re not talking balanced reporting…..
Posted by: AmazonTraveler | February 23, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
I thought Hillary was a solutions expert……..I would suggest she fire those high priced consultants
Posted by: Vectorpedia (Rick) | February 23, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Listen Americans, what do you want? something new or something old, been there done that… do you know how many judgements the clinton’s have had aganist them. and you are right, if she can’t manage her own campaigne how in the world do you exspect her to manage you money, and yes it will be same as .when things don’t go the way she says there gona go, she’ll say we americans dont understand politics it is in our best intrest. this time forks you better be sure, because this country can not take another 4 years, of well we had to clean up after bush, and if you put the clintons back in the whitehouse, thats exactly what your gone to get. we will not servive it. I dont know if any of you are unemployed, or you live pay check to pay check, or simply dont have a income at all. since bush has taken woman with children age 3 and up off public asst. crime has almost tripled read the news. hillary jest wants to prove she’s the best and she thinks american’s still see black verse white, and not gray. due your research dont be fooled by her tears. I was a supporter, until someone told me to do my research. if this country means that much to you. do you research see what both canidates voted on, and hillary wants us to all py for health insurance the same way we pay for auto insurance matatory. can you aford it if your not working. people dont take my word for it. please research, and be sure. I’m tried of living like this, and I want our troops to come home now, not 6 months not 3 months, but now… really people why do we vote at all if deligates pick the president. if that happens this time I want everyone regardless of who you support dem or repub, go outside on front of your home the very next morning at 9am est, and protest. let them know this is our counrty not thiers, and we are going to take it back. be strong this country belongs to us, not the rich politicians.
Posted by: Deborah | February 23, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Hillary can’t manage a $100 million campaign competently, what chance has she got of managing a trillion dollar economy. Vote Obama on March 4!
Posted by: John | February 23, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
The article states what Obama spent pretty clearly.
It is obvious that Hillbots can’t count or read.
Seriously, I don’t know that Obama is a great candidate, but Hillary is a HORRIBLE one. Her past, her narcissistic husband, her spending habits, her ego, her screeching metallic voice, her lying and passive aggressive insinuation…
And her fans! Seriously you all sound just like the people who loved Bush!
Posted by: Lizzie | February 23, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
The article states what Obama spent pretty clearly.
It is obvious that Hillbots can’t count or read.
Seriously, I don’t know that Obama is a great candidate, but Hillary is a HORRIBLE one. Her past, her narcissistic husband, her spending habits, her ego, her screeching metallic voice, her lying and passive aggressive insinuation…
And her fans! Seriously you all sound just like the people who loved Bush!
Posted by: Lizzie | February 23, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
What about the $11,000 Hillary spent on pizza……..LOL
Posted by: Vectorpedia (Rick) | February 24, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
So tired of this Obama-love fest in the media. Can you please give us the same numbers info for the other candidates?
Posted by: yael | February 24, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
I CANNOT REMEMBER ANY MORE INEPT STRATEGISTS AS HILLARY’S IN THE LAST 40 YEARS I AM FOLLOWING SUCH CAMPAIGNS. Now that I hear he got paid for last month $ 266,000, I would, if I were the media, look a bit more inside this!….
By the way: I know that this is not reliable info,but there is a Poll taken
by “Decision Analysts” just before the debate and more important, alleged internal polls done by Hillary’s campaign AFTER the debate, showing that in Texas, OBAMA HAS ALREADY AN ADVANTAGE OF APPROX> 10%, increasing daily…..
This would explain that a few hours after the soft stance she tried to convey in the debate, which she was spreading in her adds, suddenly, in another reversal of strategy probably
advised by WOLFSON, she attacked OBAMA not only harder than ever, but now hysterically, using as excuse flyers which were already released before the debate and only stating the same as OBAMA he did there.
ARE THIS AGAIN NEW “STRATEGY” THE SWAN SONG, AFTER REALIZING THAT THE END IS COMING ?
TOM
Posted by: TOM WITTMANN | February 24, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
When the Clintons were in as president, there was one scandal after another. Whitewater, Filegate,Vince foster’s death(murder or suicide?)travel gate, the missing Rose law firm billing records dissaperance at the Whitehouse Etc.. Bills,lieing under oath as president about the Lowenski deal.( The executive branch of government is suppose to enforce the laws, not break them)The last straw was when Bill pardoned many of his and Hillerys old friends who had been convicted of various crimes associated with land deals and fraud associated with the Madison Guaranty failure. Many of these same people had been in the Whitewater scheme with the Clintons. This wholesale pardon of convicted felons makes the Scooter Libby pardon look like childes play. I will never forgive Hilleries killing of universal health insurance back in the 90,s. It was an awfull plan, concieved in secrecy that virtually no one wanted,not even most of the Democrates.I have read that she had claimed that she had to do this for political reasons. This is the very type of politics that Obama is fighting against. Whether she was for or against NAFTA, I do remember Bill Championing NAFTA and again signing the bill into law. Bill Clinton signed it, not George H.W. Bush as the Clintons would have you beleive. As for gender,I could see a Woman as president,just not Hillery. We can’t spend another four years of nothing or the wrong things getting done while the new-old president is embroiled in scandal after scandal. As far as experience, Hillary does have a lot of experience staying one step ahead of the law. Even if she was exhonerated of all the illegal activites attriubed to the Clintons I keep thinking about the Chicago Cubs. The Cubs have about a hundred years of experance, but when was the last time you saw them in a world series? The Cubs are entertaining you say. Well, you are correct.And I guess so was Bill with his many sexual escapades. Isn’t it Italy where the electorate actuall vote for candates with the best chance to make the tabloides? Good luck!
Fritz
Posted by: Fritz Kronenberg | February 25, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
Where is the Hillary – Peter Paul story in the media?
Posted by: Bryant | February 26, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm