Dem Delegate Fight Pits Sharpton Vs. NAACP

You can’t count the delegates because they did not campaign there. Had Barack campaigned there, knowing the type of grassroots organization he has, he would’ve definitely won Michigan and it would’ve been alot closer in Florida. If I were a voter in Florida and I new they were not seating delegates, I would not vote. This is absurd to think that just b/c Hillary organized some behind the scenes get out the vote drive in Florida she should get the delegates. She has no defense… yes a million people voted in those states. But who’s to say that a million more would have voted had they known that Hillary camp would pull a stunt like this.

Ok so don’t do anything to fix this mess and just leave out those one million voices and when the GE comes around I can just see these people running out and voting for Obama if he is chosen because they need their votes to count now in order to put a democrat into the white house…right that sounds great Al

This whole mess is very short sided. What was the DNC thinking? It wasn’t like the people in these States did anything wrong. They talk about doing a caucus well that isn’t fair either. Looks to me like we got bested at least in FL by the GOP once again.

Obama had tv ads in Fla. during the primary, Hillary did not. So he did
indeed have a plug in to Fla.
I agree with Andrew Young, and I think the people of Fla. should be seated at
the convention.
Why can’t we just have a national primary day, and one month later the General Election? This would cut down
the cost of campaign, and be fair for all the states.

The “Dean Scream”, eliminating his chance for the Presidency, was one of the most fortunate events in our political history. Imagine the screw ups we would have to endure if he was elected. Actually how do democrats expect to run a country, if they cannot even pull off a primary?
To any camera person or editor reading: Please do not show Senator Clinton going up or down stairs. I do not wish her election success, but the lady deserves more respect.
I will forgo any comments about her knees.

I don’t see why DEM allow the IOWA, New Hampshire, South Carolina hold their Caucus, Primary before Super Tuesday Feb 05 but reject Michigan’s primary results on Jan 17 and the Florida’s primary results on Jan 30 ? This party, DEM is really has a deep problem inside itself.
If Senator Obama is nominated, I urge Senator Hillary Clinton to form a new working and middle class party. I see no way that she can help this liberal and dump party any more. And I strongly believe many moderated DEM and GOP will join her.
In fact, no one will vote for a young and in-experience candidate such as Senator Obama to lead the country in this November. At work, we usually don’t hire any candidate who does not have at least 5-10 years experience when we have critical project must finish on time. DEM definitely will lose the White House again if Mr. Obama won the nomination.

Yes, flyover, thankfully Dean lost, otherwise we never would have invaded Iraq. Where would we be without this blessed debacle?

Everyone talks about the disenfranchised voters in Michigan and Fl.
What about the possibly thousands or millions of people who DID NOT vote because they were told that it wasn’t a real election??
If I was an Edwards or Obama supporter in Michigan, I probably wouldn’t have voted since they weren’t on the ballot and it was reported it would not count.
Also, many Floridians showed up due to a Property issue on the ballot. I can imagine that many non-home owners may have stayed home since the Presidential Primary wasn’t a real contest.

Not only do I disagree with Sharpton,
really it was Obama who held a conference in Hyde Park, Fla. which was
against the rules, and it was Obama
who said he did not know the rules.
Obama changes the rules at every chance.
His radio and cable tv ads show that
he was indeed campaigning in Fla during
the primary.
Obama does the Bush dance, I didn’t know
Katrina was going to be as bad as it turned out to be.

Never thought I’d back Al Sharpton over Julian Bond.

Just to clarify, the image of Che Guevara is imposed on top of the Cuban flag in the Obama campaign office.
Yeah that would be quite a presidential campaign.

I bet how we all fall out on this debate is correlated with who we side for. That said, I side for Obama and think that these FLA and MI delegates should NOT count (be seated) unless these states do a do-over. First, all candidates agreed to these rules beforehand. Changes the rules in the middle to suit the winner seems after-the-fact. Each candidate campaigns differently, and Obama and Edwards were not even on the ballots in MI. If folks want these states’ delegates to be seated, then these states ought to hold primaries or caucuses along the same lines of rules and campaign procedures that every other state does. Counting these delegates now, after candidates agreed not to campaign (and an exception here and there for Clinton and Obama, both of whom had apparently an exception means nothing) and agreed not to count the delegates is disingenuous. The race is close, and only, knowing that these delegates could be a difference maker, does it come up that they should count. If this fervor were present before the primaries, that’s fine. Debate it out and then come to an agreement. However, you don’t change the rules that determine the winner after the game has been played.

Clinton has always said she thinks the nominee will ask for the delegates to be seated. She did not mention Florida and Michigan before they voted, as part of the sanctions aginst these states.
Honestly, they have been sanctioned. No one was able to campaign in these states, except Obama who broke the rules, and these states did not have their moment in the sun or their specific issues addressed by candidates. They did not gain revenue from hordes of reporters and campagins descending on their states.
The states as a whole, and as a political lobby have been punished for the decision of their Republican legislatures.
The voters, who had no say in the matter and are Democrats, should not have their constitutional rights stripped. The sanctions worked. It’s time to COUNT THE VOTES!

COUNT THE VOTES!

I’d like to see a photograph of the ballot that Michigan Democrats had to work with next to an image of an Iraqi ballot during Saddam’s reign, or a Cuban ballot under Castro. Then tell me Hillary deserves credit for her “Victory”.

I for one, don’t think it was right to disenfranchise anyone. However, the DNC determined that – not Obama. Although Hillary, Edwards, and Obama agreed to it. But the fact remains, those were the rules. And please don’t give me that about a 30-second ad that Obama had running in Florida. You cannot tell me that he campaigned there with that. Please…I totally agree with the fact that Hillary never complained about Florida or Michigan before she started slipping. If she thought it was such a bad idea, as powerful as she is in the Democratic party, I’m sure she could have kept up a bigger fuss to get that changed.

I am so sick of the Clintons. I only wish I could take back my votes for Bill, that helped get him elected both times.
They practice dirty politics, spread lies, saying they wouldn’t make this up when telling out and out lies. They agreed to the rules, broke them, and then complain whenever something doesn’t go there way.
I use to wonder why so many people had a passionate hatred for the Clintons, now I understand. If they are allowed to, they will literally rip the Democratic Party apart. Hillary agreed to the rules, broke them, and is now whining because she sees the writing on the wall. She came in acting as if this nomination was her due, IT IS NOT.

I can’t believe this is even in question.
Sharpton is absolutely right. The DNC took away the FL and MI delegates (for whatever reason is their own) and now Clinton wants it to count. Of course she does, because it will go in her favor.
After pulling power from the FL & MI delegates, the DNC asked the candidates to remove their names from the ballot. Most obliged. Clinton did not. And SURPRISE! she won.
Why should the DNC reward Clinton for flouting the DNC rules?

Obama did not ‘campaign in florida’. when Obama campaigns he fills stadiums. when Obama campaigns he opens offices and staffs them with energized professionals and first time volunteers who organize armies of engaged citizens to go out and create change.
What Obama did in Florida was let a 30 second National spot run on television.
Obama did not ‘campaign in Florida’.

Look all the morality police out there with words like should or shouldn’t need to get this through their heads. Florida and Michigan EXIST! They vote in general elections. They don’t go away because Obama wants to play kindergarden cop and wag his finger at 2 million voters going tsk tsk.
Get your heads out of the sand. These states vote in general elections! Florida also has massive connections to NY and California and any other state with large hispanic or Jewish populations.
He will not win the white house without these states and every member of the DNC knows it!
COUNT THE VOTES!
Anyone who says that counting votes in a democracy is unfair is wrong. That’s what democracy means folks.

I am thinking that the voters in Mi and Fla should place a class action lawsuit against their perspective states and the DNC if at all possible. Who in their right mind wants to make the case that because they did not campaign and took off their names (which by the way Obama broke the rules by running the ad and had the option to leave his name on the ballot). Again, the American people want to disenfranchise entire States from the nominating process. How about caucuses–do you ever look on your voting card and see where it says you will place your vote–yet when they have a caucus the State you live in never sent you via snail mail where you will caucus and what times or what that entails. e.g. In Kansas we had from 6-7pm to arrive or not be counted. Talk about blocking out a group of voters in a big way–and to boot it was at a college. Let’s mention the influence of the MSM on this outcome so far–do you reasonably think if they had been doing their jobs as journalists that this activist (Obama) would be this far. This whole process is so undemocratic and to think that the DNC has the right to ask people to vote again—absurd–You get one vote according to the Constitution. Obama whined his way into this position by calling Clinton’s racist–typical of black people to avoid any responsibility—then he minimized Clinton when Nevada occurred–lied to the public he was ahead–another lie. The killer part is that the blacks do not even realize that the Pied Piper is having his strings tuned by WASPs. If he was real and not a fraud–he would have said no to all this in the beginning as the big Uniter–and practiced what he preaches about “We are the USA” Instead he again watches Clinton already being accused of such things as ‘stealing the election’ if they get seated. If you people think for one moment that Hillary is not going to win–guess again –super delegates are the protection of the party for these type of nominees–the ones that do not have the credentials yet because the electorate is such an ill informed bunch of morons overall they progress. Welcome to President McCain–you can overall thank the DNC and the MSM.

actually Kirk you are flat wrong

SB,
Obama is not waiving his finger alone. He didn’t come up with this rule.
The DNC AND Hillary Clinton herself waived her finger and agreed that those primaries shouldn’t count.
Why do you keep ignoring this point?
If she had come out before Iowa and made this issue it would have more credibility.
If she had come out before Michigan voted it would have more credibility.
She waited until her first overwhelming lost to bring it up! Please respond to that. She is being a hypocrite. Please explain how she is not.

I agree with Sharpton, and would hope that Obama’s supporters will agree with the rules regarding super delegates, should the super delegates be the determining margin in selecting the Democratic nominee. I am confident that Hillary’s supporters will accept the outcome if it comes from the super delegate margin, but I fear an uprising should it be determined the other way. The rules, it seems, should only apply to Senator Clinton, but should be suspended when it comes to The Uniter.

An election with only one name on the ballot? How sleazy can the HRC supporters get? If you want those states to elect delegates, hold actual primaries or caucuses, there is still a lot of time. The only people who are opposed to that are HRC supporters who fear that their candidate would lose if there is more than one name on the ballot.

as did you Kirk

I guess I just assumed that the 2000 election was still fresh in America’s collective memory.
The same election when the Florida GOP deprived many in black precincts the opportunity to vote and ended the recount.

It’s kinda like the performance enhancing drug scandals thruout professional athletics. Florida and Michigan wished to have more power in the game of Democratic primaries. So they jumped at an advantage that was in clear violation of the rules of the game.
The result: asterisks next to their records, no shot at the hall of fame, temporary suspension.
To say that Florida wasn’t given the chance to play by the rules is ridiculous. they knew the consequences of their actions. blame the FL and MI Democratic parties, be angry at the DNC for a stiff punishment-but- this is not the fault of the candidates.
I’m sure that when the candidates were consulted by the DNC about the suspension of delegates in FL and MI the candidates were relieved, happy to agree not to campaign in those two state. Looking forward to the prospect of maybe sitting down to dinner with their families for ONE NIGHT in January instead of being forced by over eager state parties saying “what about us, come say hello to us, we matter too, we matter MORE than the other 46 states”.
The supreme irony is that had MI and FL left well enough alone they would be getting spoiled with attention as their voters and apportioned delegates would matter MORE the LATER they occurred in the primary schedule.
OH well- i refuse to shed tears over the penalties imposed upon rule breakers.
If i was a FL or MI voter, however, i’d be PISSED at my state party.

Which overseas votes? The military votes that may have been cast AFTER the election. I bet your book didn’t tell you that.
Really, though, it’s all moot. The recount was ended by the Florida GOP and Bush got his presidency.
I’m done.

If you don’t do something to resolve the voters’ votes in these states, you can kiss them goodbye in the general. That’s the reality. There needs to be some sort of settlement. Michigan, I see Obama’s point, he wasn’t on the ballot, maybe they can hold a revote. FLA, is different, all the candidates were on the ballot and no one campaigned.. I think you have to count those votes. Those democrats came out and voted, and Hillary got the majority. It’s not meaningless that she got more votes than John McCain. If the DNC fails to do this, and it puts Obama over the top, you can count on those states going red in the general, and folks, that’s huge. We need MI and FLA desperately.

Gabe Wrote: I agree Michigan perhaps shouldn’t count since only Hillary’s name was on the ballot. However, EVERYONE’S name was on the ballot in Florida and Hillary won that fair and square without anyone campaigning in the state. Florida has been a decisive state in the last two presidential elections and to tell those voters thier votes don’t count is absurd! Sharpton is an ignorant fool and needs to shut up and pay attention to the missing campaign money he can’t account for. He DOES NOT represent me as a Black person in America.
Really??? No Sharpton does not speak for black people. Neither does Julian Bond or YOU! What kind of apologist excuses cheating? You dissapoint me. I don’t care if the same thing happened for McCain and Huckabee, cheating is cheating and this should not be excused. The DNC made a decision and better stick by it.

The DNC was wrong to strip these states of their delegates. Howard Dean was flexing his muscles. If you read NAACP Chair Julian Bond’s statement, he makes the point that the Republican leaders in Florida were the ones that changed the date, not the democratic party or the voters in Florida. Now what can Floridians do about that? What would you do if it happened in your state. Howard Dean should step down as chair of the DNC because he obviously doesn’t know what the word “democratic” means…perhaps the “D” in DNC stands for “dictatorial”. And the Republican National Committee punished these two states as well but they didn’t strip them of all of their delegates, only some of them. That’s pretty fishy. If you ask me it’s the beginning of a revisit to the 2000 hanging chad debacle all over again. This shouldn’t be about the candidates, this should be about the people, the voters. And frankly, I’m shocked by the Rev. Sharpton’s protest. I’m guessing he’d see this differently if the results of counting the delegates went toward his candidate’s favor.

Brandon – when since is the DNC God? The DNC has made BAD decisions in the past and that’s why we got stuck with “W”. Their decision to not count Florida’s votes is another BAD decision. And we’ll end up with President John McCain come January. And who’s the one cheating? The candidates? Please. Again, everyones name was on the Florida primary ballot and it was a FAIR vot. Hillary won, without campaigning, Obama lost without campaigning. ENOUGH already!

Who cares what Al Sharpton has to say, he is an idiot.

Chmn. Dean’s decision to disenfranchise the Michigan and Florida Dems is going to return to bite him in the back of his lap, especially if the delegate count between Sens. Clinton and Obama is this/close. It won’t be pretty, either!

Not only did Obama not campaign there, he had no offices or volunteers working there. In Michigan his name wasnt even on the ballot. This is a shameless move by the Clintons. In my opinion the people have spoken. He won 80 to 20 in Idaho, he won 75 to 25 in DC. White states, black states he’s winning by big margins. If the DNC tries to find ways to override the will of the people in favor of the establishment candidate the Democratic party will fail. Its strange because with Obama the dems have a very rare opportunity to expand the party and win in November. With Hillary they will only destroy the party and ensure Republican victory.

Sharpton is correct. As someone else said, this is like deciding to go back and count pre-season baseball games towards the championship.

It’s the right of american people to have every vote counted as stated in the Constitution.
I don’t think Dean and the DNC should disenfranchise these voters that are needed in a national election.
And for Obama pulled his name off the ballot in Michigan and ran ads in FLA. Why did he not get critisim for running ads and fundraisers in the state. Personally I think they need to suspend some of his delegates then for this tactic.

I can’t beleive I agree with Sharpton. The only reason people and crying out and crying foul on behalf of Florida & Michigan, is because the way the race has shaped up. The correct time to protest was at the time of the decision. To do so now, is literally changing the rules in the midst of the game. If you know the rules before hand you can plan accordingly. It would be just shy of cheating & it wouldn’t past the smell test to many people.

jo

Obama ran a national ad that was seen in every state, he could not exclude Florida. These were the rules they all agreed upon, she campaigned there she just side stepped the rules by making it a fundraising event. You Hillary supporters are sounding more and more bitter, I swear you complain that young people are not involved in politics, then piss and moan when we do get involved.

Many commentators here seem to miss the point. To cast an intelligent vote, you must have the opportunity to hear detailed plans from all contenders. You cannot decide in such an important election based on one TV ad or by just going for a familiar name. Voters in both states were unfortunately disenfranchised because of the bad decisions made by the state party leaders. Those persons who went out and cast their votes knowing that they would mean nothing, well that is fine for you. However, many of us in Michigan simply did not participate because we knew the rules – the votes would not count. We felt marginalized and upset ad we have envied our neighbors Iowa, Wisconsin, Ohio etc. To go back now and say we SHOULD have voted because the votes suddenly count is just plain wrong. Most people in MI as elsewhere did not know anything much about Mr. Obama’s policies in January and his name was not even on the ballot. In fact, we were being asked to go out and vote for Mitt Romney in order to mess up the Republican slate! So the only solution now is a do over. Julian Bond knows this. These old civil rights leaders are really acting up simply because they owe so much to Bill Clinton. Mr. Bond now can join Andrew Young and Charlie Rangel in competing to see who has said the suupidest things in this campaign as they fall over one another to prove their loyalty to the Clintons. LOL if it was not such a mess.

I agree, the time to come out was last year. Now is not the time for protesting. Everyone can see this for what it is, a vote for Hillary. I don’t have a problem with these so-called civil rights leaders and black ministers supporting the person of his/her choice. But, I take great offense to someone making it sound like they give a dam- about the disenfranchisement of the voter. If he or they cared, they would have done something a long time ago. I said the same thing Sharpton said, if anyone is disenfranchised, it is the non-voter who didn’t vote b/c he/she didn’t think their vote would count.
Again, it is to little to late for protesting. Now is the time for solutions. Others have written the DNC to encourage a quick resolve of the problem as well. The difference is they didn’t say “how” the problem should be resolved. So, I think it is clear Bond’s affiliation and intent. These so-called “leaders”, and I use the term loosely, have out lived their usefullness in every possible way…..

Bad news for those thinking this has any place in the courts. You have a right to vote, but you don’t have a right to a party selection process.
Florida and Michigan parties CHOSE to have their votes before the date of a valid election. So that would be the same as me showing up at my polling place a week before the election and screaming “Ive been DISENFRANCHISED!” because no one was there to take my vote.

I think it fair for the Michigan not to be counted, but the Florida vote definitely should be counted. While it’s true Obama did not campaign in Florida, nor did Clinton, and both of their names are on the ballot, it may be true many supporters of Obama did not cast a vote thinking the vote will not be counted, same thing can be said of Clinton supporters, so they are really on equal footing.

Mr. Bond is correct. Seat the delegates.
We are talking about the disenfranchisement of nearly 3 MILLION voters who DID go out to vote even knowing their votes may not be counted. Howard Dean really is to blame for this mess, but so are the Dem leaders because they had to put him someplace and figured he wouldn’t cause much trouble there. Oh, well!
As for who was on the ballot. Sen Obama originally put his name on the Michigan ballot, then withdrew it. He left it on the ballot in Florida and ran campaign ads,Hillary went down for a fund raiser, and after the election went down to thank the voters for voting. As for Edwards, his percentage of the vote would probably been the same as it had been, still giving the majority of the votes as they were.
I’m a 70 yr old South Carolinian, and I called the DNC both before the Florida primary and after. I was spoken to very rudely and told, quote”we can’t have the states running around willy nilly setting their own primaries!” unquote. I asked about the rights of the voters to be represented and was told that the DNC ran things and it was just too bad.
Rather distasteful attitude, don’t you think?
As far as Rev Sharpton is concerned, with his history in civil rights–since when was he so concerned about rules? Mr. Bond is correct, the voters should be represented. It is “we the people”!
And if Mr. Sharpton cares about civil rights–he would be for the civil rights of 3 million people of ALL backgrounds. His current attitude smacks greatly of the very thing he professes to be working so hard against-discrimination against ANY of us.
THREE MILLION VOTERS DESERVE REPRESENTATION! I certainly want MY vote to count, even if it is only one. And a do-over is not an option. Surely intelligent,civilizwd people can come to some agreement.

Posted by: bobby,
I doesn’t matter which party is in control. The PEOPLE of ANY state have a voice. The PEOPLE themselves should have stood up and said NO. People can’t blame their lack of action on the Republicans. What-ever happened to taking responsibility? The people that are now complaining (citizens, Hillary camp, civil rights people, etc.) should have complained THEN, it’s far to late for crying foul.
I wish they’d go ahead and give her the delegates. I’m sick of hearing about them. And, I bet if she gets awarded the delegates it will only increase his level of support. In other words, she better be careful what she wish for.
There are still many of us out here that would be happy with either of them. But, when one pulls a power move such as this, we take notice. We have to take notice because it makes us wonder what an administration with such a person would be like.
When I go and vote next month, this will be floating around in the back of my mind.

Had Hillary lost in Michigan/Florida you wouldn’t be hearing a peep about the “great concern at the prospect that million of voters in Michigan and Florida could ultimately have their votes completely discounted.”

I was a Clinton supporter, but these low campaign tactics are really getting to me. The fact of the matter is, with the proportional delegate count, Clinton will not receive significantly more delegates than Obama-certainly not enough to take over his lead in pledged delegates. Additionally, if you take into account both Michigan (where Obama’s name was not on the ballot) and Florida, he will still maintain a lead in popular vote. It’s about principles, and theses tactics are showing her lack thereof.

None of the Super Delegates should vote for Obama, he is out to get them all fired, even the Clintons who are among the top tier of successful Democrats in the party’s history. I think the fact Obama wants Florida and Michigan voters to be disenfranchised, to discount their votes is quite obvious, because he lost both states to Hillary. Florida and Michigan voters should demand to be counted and their delegates seated at the convention in this all important primary. Why should the voters be punished for what the DNC in their states did? The DNC has sentenced the voters to the death penalty over a simple rule, that is just wrong. I think the solution to be totally fair to the voters and candidates alike is to let the candidates campaign for one month in the two states and then do another vote. That is what democracy is all about, that is what the Democratic Party is supposed to stand for. Even the Republicans weren’t this harsh on their voters, delegates and candidates!
Hillary All the Way!!!!!

Julian Bond’s (and Mary Frances Henderson and Wade Berry) public outcry on behalf of disenfranchised voters is a day late and a dollar short. Why now? Moreover, if Henderson and Berry assisted in writing the letter to the DNC together with Mr. Bond, why did they not sign it with him? Why hide in the shadows if this is indeed a sincere effort to bring about justice and equality for Florida and Michigan voters? Why did these three individuals feel it necessary to come out without the full knowledge, and more importantly, the full support, of the NAACP Board and the organizations that they head. Doing so surely would have had a greater impact and, were it done in a timely manner when the battle was at hand.
Quite frankly, Mr. Bond’s public outcry on behalf of all the disenfranchised voters is so far after the battle, it is disingenuous and embarrassing, at best.
This is exactly the kind of politics that folks all across America are demanding a departure from. This is why one hears over and over again, “We Want Change! Change that We Can Believe In!”
Further, this begs the question: If Florida and Michigan voters were allowed to go first, would their voters — the people not the party leaders — be any better off than if they stuck with the party rules? What is in it for the people — the orange grove pickers, the working folks, the service industry employees, the school bus drivers, the firemen, the policemen, the garbage collectors, the teachers? What do they get out of all of this? Is this going to increase their wages, improve their living conditions and provide them with decent health care? No. It is just politics as usual.
As for Hillary Clinton — first we had hanging chads, now we have illegal delegate gathering. Sen. Clinton’s statement saying that she was going to do everything she can to get Florida and Michigan delegates seated — but without a new primary — speaks well of her campaign tactics to date.
DNC Chairman Dean’s offer of a new primary is, under these circumstances, fair and equitable. If Sen. Clinton is so concerned with the people being disenfranchised, she would have jumped at this opportunity. Instead, she wrongfully claims that she won these two contests. What contests? In the case of Michigan, we all know that she was the only candidate on the ballot — that’s not a contest, that’s stealing delegates. It is obvious that Sen. Clinton is not in tune with the people she so desperately is trying to become Commander in Chief of. People want change from this kind of politics.
There is an old saying that if you want to know the true nature of a person, watch what they do when faced with seemingly insurmountable obstacles. To date, when faced with seemingly insurmountable obstacles, Sen. Clinton has either cried or stretched the truth into something that is not recognizable as anything of truth or value.
This is exactly why people all across this nation are voting for change that they can believe in. I am confident that given the opportunity, the people of Florida and Michigan will also vote for change that they too can believe in — and not just on a national level.

What is important to America and all of the people in all of the states who have the constitutional right to vote is to UPHOLD THE AMERICAN CONSTITUTION. It is common knowledge that the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA takes precedence over the constitution of any political party.
Florida and Michigan cannot for any unconstitutional reason be DISENFRANCHISED.
If for one reason or another someone made a wrong decision at PARTY LEVEL and there is now confusion and debate AT CONSTITUTIONAL LEVEL about the pros and cons about Florida and Michigan voting in the primaries too early or too soon. FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN need to vote for their party choice of their best candidate for the highest office in the land and the right CONSTITUTIONAL approach to the FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN situation will guide AMERICAN’S to vote for the RIGHT PERSON to be the next PRESIDENT OF AMERICA.