Did Obama Play the Age Card Against McCain?
In Baltimore, Md., today, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., said the following about presumptive GOP presidential nominee Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.:
"Listen," Obama said, "I respect John McCain for his half century of service to this country. He is a genuine war hero, and we need to honor him for that. He has gone through things that most of us cannot even imagine. He deserves applause, he deserve our respect. But he is on the wrong side of history right now. He wants to perpetuate the Bush economic agenda that has failed working Americans … I am happy to have a debate with John McCain, because we are the party of tomorrow, he’s the party of yesterday. He’s the past, we’re the future."
ABC News producer Andy Fies has covered Obama a great deal, and says that, while Obama has used this construction about John McCain before — "I respect John McCain for his half century of service to this country" — it didn’t really stand out before.
Today, however, Obama, 46, punched the "half century" line just a little more at both of his rallies, Fies says — and the crowd noticed and reacted with some laughter.
Fies adds that, in past speeches, this line slipped by. But today, it stood out, and the audience clearly seemed to think Obama was joking that McCain is too old … even though the dig (if intended) was encased in words of praise.
The comment, Fies says, seemed designed to portray the 71-year-old McCain as a museum exhibit, a relic.
What do you think? We’ll post the video as soon as we can.
- jpt
UPDATE: Someone else I know who attended the rally disagrees with Fies, saying she didn’t think Obama at all intended the line to be a slam on McCain’s age, though clearly some in the crowd took it that way.
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Posted by: geevill | February 11, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Thank you Christian. Your comment summarizes the typical Obama supporter quite nicely.
Posted by: geevill | February 11, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
His slogan has been past v future all along. since the 2004 DNC speech.
Watching “Senior National Correspondents” that appear to only know the most minimal about what is actually going on, is pretty telling.
Good luck with your smear campaign Mr. Tanner. You represent ABC well.
Posted by: Billy | February 11, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
I don’t believe that Obama would intentionally deploy ageism, and the reference is reasonably subtle. If controversy starts to arise, I expect Obama will tweak his language appropriately. He wants his coalition to include “young and old”.
Posted by: Creamy Goodness | February 11, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
You’re looking for some ‘hidden agenda’ when it’s right out there. Polls have been showing all along that voters are concerned about McCain’s age, and only young guys (such as yourselves) would assume our concern is only about physical stamina.
As Obama says, McCain is on the wrong side of history. Age brings a lot of insight, and I would always support listening to the elders of ANY group, but at some point it’s time for the leadership to pass down to the next generation.
Leadership is more than just reinterpreting the past. Some things really do change, and we have to change with them or we get left behind. Globalization is just one issue, but it affects (or should affect) our economic policy, health care, education, military, and much more. I’ve seen no evidence McCain understands the interconnections.
Remember the Coburn-Obama Transparency Act creating the database of federal spending? I really doubt McCain would have ever even imagined that.
McCain won’t even bother learning to use a PC – he says he leaves that up to his wife. That doesn’t mean he’s old physically, but that he’s not interested in new things. A PC isn’t some gadget, it’s how we communicate and research now. And he ignores all that? Pretty scary.
I sincerely admire and respect McCain a lot, same as Obama does. I want to see him involved in the next administration. I just don’t want to see him as President.
Posted by: Tom J | February 11, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Well we remember John McCain gave information to the North Vietnamese!!!
His brain is older than his outward appearance!!
Posted by: Rob Smith | February 11, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
“I respect John McCain for his half century of service to this country.”
isn’t this a compliment?
Posted by: John | February 11, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
This article is pure garbage. His speech at UMD can be found on washingtonpost.com video pages and others on youtube.com. Simply put you’re trying to distort a respectful praise of McCain. Sadly news.google.com, brings to light silly articles such as this that should remain under the rock they came from.
Posted by: VarsityBlueNYC | February 11, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
NO. MITT ROMNEY AND MIKE HUCKABEE (CHUCK NORRIS) SAID OUT RIGHT THAT “JOHN MCCAIN IS TOO OLD”!!! YOU ALL ARE TRYING TO PICK A FIGHT.
Posted by: James | February 11, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Jeeez!!!!!! McCain does have over 50 years of sacrifice to the country. He went to the Naval Academy at age 18. He’s 72 now. That’s 54 years.
Obama was trying to be respectful. You media guys are sooooo eager for conflict, you find a slight in everything. Just let it go,
Posted by: dionysus | February 11, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Jack
You sure relish in creating controversy, don’t you?
Age card, race card, gender card, etc.
You mostly stick to less substantive issues. Of course, this does increase your popularity – but what about respect and integrity? Do you care for those?
Posted by: Onlooker | February 11, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
When is anyone going to ask McCain about the Keating 7 and the savings and Loan scandel and his involvement??? And his wife’s drug habit – will that come out during the debates?”???
Posted by: JOANNE STEWARD | February 11, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
John McCain has a remarkable record of leadership and experience, Obama zero.
Posted by: Danny | February 11, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
I don’t know about McCain butI remember when Obama came on the scene here in Iowa and yes he has made several references to age. One I remember was spmething to the effect the time of the Baby-Boomer is over – Well sorry but I am a Baby Boomer who lost a good job to down-sizing, lost health insurance, has seen property taxes increase 4 times, had a thriving business that is now struggling, buried 3 parents,takes care of one, helps support 2 grown children, and is working harder than ever to survive.
Tell me Mr Obama, when is my time?
Pretty speeches just don’t cut it with me. I remember the Clinton years and I had a good job, benefits, and a life. I have seen the results of Hillary Clinton’s hard work and experience. Children have health care, elder’s have medicare and social security. Tell me if Baby Boomers are not important anymore who is it that is supporting this country? I hope everyone who has been through hardship will read this and think before you vote
Posted by: plh | February 11, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
I support Hillary. To be fair, you can also say that HRC is subtly practicing ageism by saying that Obama is too young. I just don’t see it. It’s a legitimate contrast.
Posted by: kevin | February 11, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
I respect John McCain for his service to this country. He is a good an honorable Fellow.
But Man does he look Old. If you ever see J McCain in High Def w/o stage make-up you know what I’m talking about.
He’s been around the block and then some. There is just no way he can match up against the youthful O in this format.
But HUCK can. Huck’s young. Huck is Fresh. Huck has energy. Huck has teh ideas.
HUCK can beat either of these two.
You got to vote HUCK.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | February 11, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Pleeaassseee. I laughed when he said that. I do believe he was subtly pointing out their age contrasts and there is nothing wrong with this. McCains age is an issue on republican voters minds. But, an even bigger issue on democrats minds, especially insiders, is if Obama has what it takes to handle what the Republican’s are going to be throwing at him if he wins the nomination. They want to know if he has the stomach for the politics that he will HAVE to wage to win. Kerry tried to stay on the high road and they swift boated him right out of the white house. They will try to do the same to Obama and he is just showing that he has teeth, which ANY candidate will need to win. And, I might add, he did it with such class!
Posted by: Mary Lee | February 11, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
All of you apparently miss the point that you aren’t voting for who will be the best for the nation, you are voting for whom will do the least damage. After two terms of King George, just about anyone will do. Why isn’t the mayor of Elkhart, TX running?
Posted by: Geezus | February 11, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
one more reason obama is the choice of the American people, his age, his experience, his communication and uniting skills and most importantly less polarizing than hillary and mccain!
Posted by: jacobs | February 11, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
That is why the old timer is going to put a good licking on that young upstart if he happens to make it all the way.
Posted by: SJ | February 11, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
One thing this election has showed me is that some people have not gratitude for service to country.
Bill cut the deficit – no thanks.
Hillary worked her butt off for years- no thanks.
Mccain served his country and suffered for it also – no thanks.
What has Obama ever done???..nothing..well no thanks to you also Mr. Obama you will not be getting my vote!!!
Posted by: SJ | February 11, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Here’s a different interpretation: I thought he was highlighting McCain’s 50 years as a way to point out that he’s got a lot more experience than Hillary Clinton, so her “35 years” talking point won’t do her much good. She’s been running around telling everyone how the number of years of experience is the most important factor in this election, so how his she going to win against someone with more experience than her?
So this is more a subtle electability argument than anything. Insofar as it is an attack on age, it’s more an attack on the age of McCain’s ideas than the man himself. McCain is running on the economic and foreign policies of the 1980s, and Obama’s offering something more modern and forward-looking.
Posted by: Jason | February 12, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
Obama is right. John McCain, Hillary are past. We need some new thinking and new ideas. Spin it whatever way you want. If you talk about 100 years of war, if you talk about not talking to world leaders with whom we disagree, those are old thinking. Obama will unite. McCain was a fantastic candidate in 2000. Now, he is a leaf from the same tree that gave us this stupid war and deficit.
My first choice is Obama and Hillary is second.
Posted by: Al, San Francisco | February 12, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
Senator Obama is not Bill and Hillary Clinton – he would not ever do that to a War Hero — WHY DON’T THE MEDIA PAY ATTENTION TO THE MISREPRESENTATION BY SENATOR CLINTON CLAIM OF 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE:
Senator Hillary Clinton misrepresented her 35 years of Experience.
Its my belief that Senator Clinton should be questioned (by the media) about her alleged 35 years of experience; her unsuccessful 17 year fight for health care, and how providing a bunch of earmarks for her state (NY), provides and/or equip her to be ready from day one, and Senator Obama would not be.
Even though, Senator Clinton’s Whitehouse work schedule is curiously under lock and key, the following factual information is the only information we have to judge her “so called experience” on.
When Senator Clinton and her campaign handlers talk about her “experience”, they fail to pinpoint any specifics. So I ask that you consider comparing Senator Obama’s Illinois and U.S. Senate factual records vs Senator Clinton’s Senate voting record and you be the judge as to whether Senator Clinton and others have misrepresented the facts to the American voters regarding her “Experience”.
Senator Obama –During the first eight years of Senator Obama’s elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced:
233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.
His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
- the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
- The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
- The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
- The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
- The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee)
Senator Clinton — Senator Clinton’s, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation.
1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Hon
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O’Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men’s Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men’s Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.
Only five of Senator Clinton’s bills are more substantive:
16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.
In Conclusion, you now have the facts straight from the Senate Records vault.
Posted by: DCNorm | February 12, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
I am laughing at all these replies. If Obama came out and announced he clubbed baby seals over the head, these Obama cultist would put a POSITIVE SPIN on it somehow.
Posted by: tom | February 12, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
I thought I made it really clear that I am for Obama because of what he has actually accomplished, not what he says. While he is a VERY inspirational speaker, I consider myself intelligent enough to not be swayed by that. I know a few evangelical preachers who are inspirational preachers that are just out to take your money. I would not fall for blarney, but Obama has actually accomplished great things in his time in the state and federal senate. I am smart enough to actually go out and learn about the records of those politicians running. I don’t listen to what comes out of their mouths.
Posted by: Mary Lee | February 12, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
“Hillary worked her butt off for years- no thanks.”
What does that even mean??? Are you referring to her cattle futures debacle, Whitewater or her failure to come up with that wonderful health plan she promised, while Bill was in office.
Posted by: Steve | February 12, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
why does abc only report negative comments about obama maybe because the politcal staff worked in the clinton whitehouse right george–maybe george and team should sit this one or maybe if bill and hilary get back in the white house george could get his job back
Posted by: william | February 12, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am
Let forget about the racism and age. Senator Obama, please show some works you have done for this country before you can convince me voting for you. Talk is always cheap.
Posted by: stock_craft | February 12, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am
Hey DCNorm,
Are you confusing things on purpose or just high off the Obama kool-aid?
I was originally going to point out you compare the number of bills Obama has sponsored, which simply means he signed-up in support of, vs. the bills Hillary has authored which were passed into law. I was going to say nice sleight of hand.
Then I noticed you’re not even comparing apples to oranges. You’re listing legislation Obama was involved in at the state level for comparison with things Hillary has done at the national level.
You further remove credibility from your argument when you say Hillary only served one term and has spent the rest of the time campaigning. Obama has been preparing and campaigning for the presidency ever since his speech at the ’04 convention was so well received – before he even gained a seat as a US Senator.
Here are 3 questions I’d like to see asked at a Obama – McCain debate that should end the Obama campaign for anyone not drinking the Obama kool-aid.
1. What have you led as an executive in your lifetime?
2. How have you been tested?
3. I don’t hire a receptionist without experience why should the American people hire someone w/o any leadership experience to be President?
Tom
Posted by: Tom | February 12, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am
That makes the 2 of us here geevill – because i will never vote for Obama.
Posted by: Oodle | February 12, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am
He’s only being HONEST….You Obama bashers can’t take HONESTY….You’re not used to hearing it…Too bad …Obama is your next President…GET OVER IT…….
Posted by: denny | February 12, 2008, 4:30 am 4:30 am
Getting a bill passed into law that will have an effect on the lives of citizens of this country is a lot different than just sitting there and saying well I supported this issue and that issue. Where is the drive that Obama can show he was instrumental in getting this law or that law, am not seeing this on your list? Maybe he is really a “yes” man, yes we can do this and that but nothing more, because your list sure does not prove that he has accomplished anything that I can see has his stamp on it.
Posted by: SJ | February 12, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
Sen Obama is using a time-honored trick of rhetoric, called “damning with faint praise.” He’s hardly “playing the age card;” instead, he’s couching a generally-perceived weakness of the Repub opponent in a compliment. It’s been done before by others and will be done again before this campaign ends.
Posted by: chuck | February 12, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
Surprise surprise Obama actually instead of using delagates to attack is said something him self??
Will someone tell Obama that Employment in this country was and is at its highest point in decades!! 95.3 % Employment So where is the middle class hurt, they will be if he is elected because of his tax plans!!
Posted by: spock | February 12, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am
Obama joined with Senators Coburn (R-OK), Carper (D-DE), and McCain (R-AZ) in sponsoring the “Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act”, S. 2590, to provide citizens with a website, managed by the Office of Management and Budget, listing all organizations receiving Federal funds from 2007 onward, and providing breakdowns by the agency allocating the funds, the dollar amount given, and the purpose of the grant or contract. President George W. Bush signed the bill, also referred to as the “Coburn-Obama Transparency Act”, into law on September 26, 2006.
This is a law that was very important. I want to know what my government is doing.
Posted by: Mary Lee | February 12, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
That is very strange. Posts that attack Obama saying he has no record and his followers are a Cult are allowed to stay, but posting a few of the laws he actually authored or co-sponsored was deleted. No wonder people are so uneducated and think he has no substance!
Posted by: Mary Lee | February 12, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
No. He showed respect.
Posted by: Penny | February 12, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
I think it’s a bit of a stretch to argue that Obama was criticizing McCain for his age in complementing him on half century of service. It’s not like he was quoting actuarial tables or the risk of Alzheimer’s were a president to turn 80 in office (as McCain would if he were to win two terms).
Regardless, I’m not sure that the phrase “age card” in analogy to “race card” really makes sense. Surely age is a legitimate issue. If nothing else, don’t you think McCain’s choice of Veep deserves special scrutiny?
Posted by: Age card? | February 12, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
I was there. There was no punch to it.
Aside: The funniest part of the speech was when he said that Republican supporters feel the need to whisper to him that he has their support.
Posted by: Marie | February 13, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
I’ll take the snow on Senator McCains’”roof” over the “snow” on the junior Senators’nose any day.To rattle sabers with no experience as in how to wield them once drawn (re:Pakistan),is proof enough that Obama Isn’t Ready For Primetime.
Posted by: J.P | February 14, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am
I’ll take the snow on Sen.McCains’ “roof” over the “snow” on the junior Senators’ nose any day.Re: Pakistan -To rattle a sabre with no experience in as how to wield it once drawn, is proof that Obama Is Not Ready For PrimeTime! (Correction)
Posted by: J.P | February 14, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
I too heard Obama say the “time of the baby boomer is over” Well, thanks for alienating those who fought so hard so that you might have civil rights, women’s rights and so many other fronts so you could now say that we are a throw away vote for you. You won’t get mine.
And when you lie and say that Senator Clinton does not have 35 years experience but, we are supposed to count all your community organizing you insult anyone who thinks it does count. She started her very first community organizing at the age of 14 when she got a large group of students to offer free baby sitting to inner city immigrant and poor families so they could go to work and not have to worry about child care.
She worked on education initiatives, Head Start, pre school and reading programs while she was in Arkansas, has done pro bono law work for abused children…and on and on and on with similar programs and none of this even counts the White House where she was not the typical bake cookies and hold teas type of first lady, then she became a Senator of New York. I suggest you look up her ENTIRE long, long record of public service to causes.
It is a bit shady of Obama to discount her when he asked her to help him campaign for the senate and at that time seemed to believe her long record was quite impressive to him. He has co opted her entire economic plan so he must think it’s a pretty good one.
I think when you seek to put people who are the back bone of this country and those working with families in the “grave” politically so you can create a division along lines of age it shows what kind of a person you really are.
No Obama, I fell for the speech for a little while and then I thought for myself and looked things up instead of taking your pat answers at face value.
Clinton is not perfect and you are a blank slate without much to criticize because there is nothing there. However, in the short time you’ve been in the public eye you have divided this party along lines of age, race, gender and class. It was a terrible idea for you to run right now. If you had waited the experience question would be a moot point. The smart thing to do would have been go as her vp since she did help you get to the senate in the first place. You didn’t seem to have any problem with her then….if you had gone that we the dems would have a possible shot at 16 years in the White House and have been really united….you’re anything but, uniting. The only reason you now turn on Senator Clinton is for your own purposes. If you had any real problems with her you couldn’t have asked her to campaign for you at all. It’s a sham.
He’s splitting this party apart. So many people are alienated by his tactics and his supporters *some of them* constant attacks on anyone who tries to disagree with them all over the net that they will not vote Obama if he is the nominee. But Obama is all about self or he would not have actively created this situation.
It doesn’t make a bit of sense when he has copied most of her plans and agenda “Hence the nearly identical policies” if he thinks they are good enough to copy, and he has to devalue her experience to the point of lying by omission to make his lack of it seem less important then perhaps we need to start poking holes in his illogical and divisive choices now.
I’m voting for Hillary Clinton. If she can stand up to all this division, the attack media and the rest of this nonsense the republicans will be a piece of cake and unlike her opposition she won’t leave out anyone whether they are a boomer, gen x’er or a babe in the political woods. That’s what it is to unify.
Obama is a master of doing things and then projecting that onto someone else…he cast a lot of blame he should own himself onto Senator Clinton. If he is doing that now he’ll keep right on doing it as president…”It’s not my fault it’s everyone else’s” He is GWB in another mask.
No thanks…it’s all too serious to sit back and not say what he’s really doing.
Rezco, handing out flyers telling people to become a democrat for a day to independents and republicans, the attack ads HE runs but, whines about when she does it….
Actions speak louder than words and so far we haven’t seen Obama walk the walk he loves to yammer on about.
It’s all so fake with him. Don’t vote with “feelings” find out for yourself what is real and for god’s sakes don’t get your political news on t.v. or from either campaign website. Go actually READ their entire record and the statements they have made in official record documents. Voting is a responsibility not to be taken from a t.v. ad or taken lightly.
Posted by: Mark | March 1, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am