Feminist Organization: Bring Me the Head of MSNBC

First, Teddy Kennedy endorses Obama and the NY chapter of N.O.W. calls him sexist. Now, David Shuster, one of NBC’s most objective reporters, uses a slang term, sarcastically, to describe Chelsea having to do the dirty work of persuading superdelegates to either endorse her mom or stay with her mom. And of course, this unleashes the fury of the women’s movement, just in time to help Hillary continue her fundraising surge and drum up votes for her in the upcoming primaries and caucuses.
It’s about time we stop giving the Clintons the benefit of the doubt. It was one thing when she cried in NH (spurring voters to vote for her the following day), but these shenanigans are growing tiresome. Everything in Clintonland is viewed through a political prism. Here, with Shuster’s comments, the Clintons did not take umbrage; rather, they viewed a political opportunity, and are going to milk it for all it’s worth.

After the NH primaries MSNBC Chris Matthews made the comment that the only reason HRC got where she is today is because her husband messed around which also bought a lot of attention, I think MSNBC shoud be a little careful, they seem to be making a habit of saying sexist remarks.

Isn’t Emily’s List 501(c)(3)? I’d say that status is seriously in jeopardy through coordinated campaiging with Team Clinton. Its members and donors should be worried.

I agree. This is interesting. I just independently, and without having read these quotes from the president of EMILY’s list, come to the conclusion that the MSNBC editors and decision makers regarding content are misogynists. And now I read this….. So, I’m not the only one who has noticed. Fellas, it might seem like a joke to you, but it’s not. Women have been slowly gaining power over the past few decades. I don’t see many women writers or editors for MSNBC… at least its the guys (writers and editors) who get their gorgeous faces on the MSNBC website. How boring…. Give us a few more years, and we’ll have your job… And we’ll be more ethical and more responsible than the ole boys.

This is the type of NONSENSE Clinton wants the American people to focus on. Look at how quick Ben put this up. Is she talking about the issues? NO! She is keeping us all distracted with this woo is me and co-opting line garbage. If she gets the nomination the country deserves what it gets! Do you guys see a pattern here? Any time Obama comes out with good news (the Time poll that says he would be best against McCain) here she comes with psychological nonsense. All of you Clinton followers don’t even care! It shows the true nature of this country. Win at any means possible attitude. Obama is too good for this country!

I’ve long since given up on MSNBC. I don’t understand why highly respected anchors such as Tom Brokow and Brian Williams ever wanted associated themselves with that station. Couldn’t they just stick with NBC?
Anyway, the statement about Chelsea was totally way of line. She has been one of the model child in the whole US. If you don’t like her parents, that’s fine. But, why making such cruel remarks about a well-behaved young lady. Even GWB’s twin daughters don’t deserve that kind of treatment. The whole thing was just tasteless!

Harry
the days of old white guys like you are just about gone. Get over yourself!

It’s a media play. If I were them I’d be thinking “anything to change the subject from the Obama money surge and the Superdelegates”. She can’t seem to break through those two non-winning stories. It’s a smart move on their part.

These feminists are hillaristas. They are not real feminists. They should have told Hillary not to accept the idea to ask one selected donor be seated with her daughter while she is debatting with Obama in California. That was wrong, her daughter should not be part of that kind of situation at all and the feminists should have known better. The problem is not the journalists of MSNBC but Hillary and her campain.

Question Please, What Happens if Obamo Gets voted into Office by reason of The Republicans,(Turned Independent) Vote, and Then during the National Election They return to the Republican Ticket.

Oh the outrage… but it’s ok and no one said boo when Contessa whatever her name called Rush Limbaugh “that Loudmouth”. I thought reporters were suppose to report the news sans political bias.

It’s astonishing and sad to me that after all these years, sexism and misogyny are still so prevalent in today’s society. It’s alive and well here in Northern CA in some local businesses, it’s alive and well in the media, and it’s alive and well in politics. Hillary cries on TV, and every one jumps all over her saying “Oh she CRIED, see, she’s an emotional woman, she can’t handle the White House”. But if a male politition gets choked up on TV, he’s “sensitive”. And of course when a man is sensitive, it’s viewed in a positive light. When a woman is senitive she is obviously on her period. And so bleeping what if her husband campaigns for her? Do the wives of candidates not usually go out and stump for their husbands?? Is that unseemly? Is her her “fault” if her husband happens to be an ex-president?
It’s OK to rag on Hillary because she’s a woman; But can you imagine the uproar if anyone mentioned anything even in passing about Obama’s race? Horrors, the world would come to a grinding halt! I am by NO MEANS at all racist, but my point is, racism, sexism, ANY discrimination based on race, religion, GENDER or sexual preference is EQUALLY wrong. Hillary has every right to bite right back at those people, but instead she takes the high road and focuses on the issues like a REAL candidate does.
And as far as MSNBC goes, I could take their news and throw it in the trash. I *thought* news organizations had the obligation to supply the news in an unbiased, onjective way. HA!!!! MSNBC might as well be on Comedy Central for how objective they are. They are a bloody JOKE as a news organization. No shame or pride whatsoever. Glad I can still use my remote to change the channel.
Here’s the real sad part: The government will NEVER let a woman be president. You heard it here first, kids. Mark my words. And woe be the USA if another republican wins. I will be moving out of the country for certain if that happens. That’s what we need in government. Another man to screw things up. Lovely!
-Ranting and Raving in NorCal

The comment was distasteful and contemptible. The Clinton reaction should have been gracious: accept the apology and move on. Instead, a mountain is made of a molehill. Is not Chelsea Clinton an adult? Is she not campaigning for her mother? Does she not work for a private equity firm Avenue Capital Group? She is no innocent child. Hillary should calm the waters instead of creating a “me vs. them” environment. Is this the way she will govern?

I don’t see anything sexist about those remarks. They could easily have been applied to a male, but as usual, the Clintons are turning this into a publicity circus. Their dumb feminist friend is overreacting and making a mountain out of a molehill that barely exists. To pimp out someone is simply to make use of them for one’s own personal gain, which is what Hillary has done with Chelsea (considering Chelsea herself has admitted that she hates campaigning and is uncomfortable with it). It has NOTHING to do with gender or misogyny. What a cry for free publicity.

It’s becoming obvious Obama is getting more (good) press than Clinton. And with it seems to come a smirk grin on Obama, much like George W Bush’s smirkish grin, that will do Obama in. Confidence is great. Bush-like attitude is NOT. I changed my vote toward Hillary this week.

So who was actually watching MSNBC when this allegedly happened?
Nobody with a brain watches network news anymore. It’s just talking heads mouthing drivel. Get the ‘net and a shortwave radio if you want reality.

Another shameless stunt from Hillary’s floundering campaign to cast her as some sort of victim. Her lust for power and willingness to do anything to get elected is astounding.

Why does a dog wag its tail, because if the tail was smarter than the dog the tail would wag the dog.
Knowledgible people vote for Obama. Hillary supporters are the “tail”, beign wag by Hillary the “dog”
Before anyone makes a wrong connection, this statement has nothing to do with Hillary’s gender.
LATINOS FOR OBAMA
OBAMA/RICHARDSON ’08

Paul | Feb 8, 2008 5:15:27 PM:
Question Please, What Happens if Obamo Gets voted into Office by reason of The Republicans,(Turned Independent) Vote, and Then during the National Election They return to the Republican Ticket.
Answer:
McCain will become President and MSNBC’s David Shuster will report that Chelsea should have been “pimped” out a whole lot more and Ellen Malcolm, Hillary, and Bill will agree with him.

Forget the youth vote. Obama’s real base is the ‘David Shuster Coalition.’ Or maybe we’ll say the ‘Axis of Misogyny.’

Of course, for Mr. Shuster to use the phrase “pimped out” in that way is gross and misogynistic. To use “pimp” as slang is stupid – it uses the very serious situation that psotitutes find themselves in, many of them facing violent coercion from real pimps, as an analogy.
What a fool – how do people like this get these prestigious jobs.

I would rather have Hillary coached by Bill than Obama coached by Michelle…Of course a spouse will have some influence on the president…duh…so what…If Hilary becomes president, I don’t think for a moment that anyone except Hilary will be doing the thinking and making the decisions. President Hillary Clinton…yeah

It’s embarassing that so many Americans are ignorant. Sexism is alive and well in America. That anyone could support any of the idiotic comments is galling.

Question: All you women who are going to vote for Hillary because she is a woman, do you support discriminating on bases of the gender of the candidate? If so, maybe we should amend The Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Let’s flip this around. Was the Obama campaign “pimping out” Carolyn Kennedy for votes? To use this kind of slang is at the very least an unconscious attempt to demean Hilary Clinton. I urge all the media to keep their commentary on a higher level.

Amid all the hatred for Hillary, remember that California held up for her by a margin of 10%. If a liberal movement can’t carry California, it is worthwhile questioning why.
Who cares about this stupid remark and XYZ’s reaction to it. Ignore the episode and move on. Let us debate the differences in policy and pick the best person, voting after using our brains.

Well…..it was OK for Chris Matthews to pummel Michele Malkin, Ann Colter (he actually said he wouldn’t kick her out of bed), Kathleen Willy, Juanita Braderick, Paula Jones, and on and on. But they don’t count to femminist women. Actually even Chelsea is a pawn to get sympathy votes for Mrs. Hilary. They and Mrs. Hilary are despicable politcal opportunists with no soul or concience. Just look at how the Clintons tried to disgrace Obama with stuff going back to kindergarten! I can’t believe you peoople are that naieve to even consider this candidate seriously knowing what we all know about her! It is my prayer Obama knockes her out fast and then McCain win the election. I wouldn’t even mind if Obama won! But my fellow Americans…..PLEASE…..PLEASE…..NO MORE CLINTONS SLEEZE!!!

Killing one million Iraqi civilians caught in the crossfire is offensive. Water-Boarding tortures are offensive also. Chelsea Clinton is a great woman and an intellectual. For many years now, the American networks have been right wing organizations, favoring this horrible Bush administration. The times are changing. My hope is that the American networks will start to do some real journalism again instead of the right wing manure they have been throwing at the American public. What about balanced reporting?

Yeah, our numbers are too big to ignore.. just wait until we come out to the polls and spank your poster boy Obama. Not that it’s his fault. MSNBC and their sexist views have been exposed. Now, will the rest of the media talk about it?

Clinton Corp. strikes again!

This campaign has opened my eyes to the double standard in our culture like no other experience I have ever had. I have worked for about 30 years in a field that is very competitive but I have never seen this level of hatred and blatant lies and media bias that has been directed at Hillary Clinton. I said I would never vote for her because she was an enabler for the disasterous Iraq invasion but this campaign has made me realize we won’t ever have full rights for women in this culture as long as the news media gets away with slander against women. I changed my vote while I was holding the ballot in my hand because anger flooded through my veins when I thought about how Hillary and other women who are accomplished have been belittled. I voted for a fine candidate, named Hillary Clinton.

This comment is directed to anyone who would question Chelsea’s desire to help her mom. Why not? If I were a Clinton relative, I would be CAMPAIGNING for her, too. Republicans and Obama supporters would like to make a big deal about this. It’s ok for Obama’s wife to be campaigning for him, right? Bill and Chelsea have every right to campaign for Hillary. Why don’t we ask from where Barack Obama is obtaining his money to run his campaign? It is not just small time donors. Could it be that is is in the pocket of those he rails against? He is all platitudes, with no substance. He can paint that rosey picture, but what does he have to show that he can accomplish what he speaks about? Absolutely nothing. His minimal time in public office means squat.

MSNBC – especially Chris Matthews sucks! Keith Olderman and the other creeps need to stay in the guys locker room and leave the reporting to Jake.
Hillary and Chelsea Clinton have proven that they are class acts under relentless abuse from an entire news network. Sure we expect nonsense from Fox the Corporate Nework, but MSNBC is the He Man Woman Haters Club.
MSNBC = Morons Spouting Nonsense ‘Bout Clintons
Screw MSNBC – Watch ABC like me!

I’m outraged at this…no not at Mr. Schuster. I’m outraged at the blatant Nazism of the Clintons. I just made the first political contribution I’ve ever made in my life–to Obama. We’re almost done with one thin skinned half-wit who thought that free speech and other Constitutional rights only apply to people who support him. We don’t need another thin skinned half-wit who thinks the same way, even if she is a woman.

I just want to point out that ABC thinks comments like this are perfectly acceptable:
“Obama can play the jigaboo card.”
“Michelle Obama looks like a APE FACED monkey…Vote Republican!”
Those comments haven’t been deleted.
However, my comment pointing out how typically racist these comments are coming from the Republican who made them? Oh, that was completely unacceptable to ABC and it was deleted within minutes.
I guess that shows you what demographic they care about. Just remember: you can shout “jigaboo” all you want here — just don’t say anything bad about the Republicans who are shouting it.

Whatever you feel about Hillary Clinton or her campaign, MSNBC and their anchor’s actions are just reprehensible.

One should not be surprised by David Shuster’s disgusting remarks.He,together with the whole msnbc team,headed by that poor excuse of newsman Chris Matthews,is embarked in an unprofessional quest to denigrate Hillary for reasons,I believe,ratings.This bunch reflects,unfortunately,the culture of this country that will never take a woman,s talent and ability seriously and worries that their manhood may be threathened.On the other hand they embrace Obama as the new Messia who,because of his race,should not be scrutinized or critisized and should be handed the presidency as an entitlement.These liberals are indeed a menace to this country.

It is interesting that some people attempt to justify Shuster’s remarks referencing the word “pimping” as accepted word usage. I guess I could be considered that. But, if I as a black person used the N” word in a sentence such as “Obama is my “N”. I would be run out of town. But for many young blacks, the use of the word in that instance is a term of endearment. Also, suppose Shuster had used the term “pimping” in terms of Obama’s children campaigning or even his wife campainging. He would then be called a racist by some of the same people who are justifying his remarks relative to Chelsea Clinton. I don’t blame Ms. Clinton, I would be offended to. Any parent would. I never heard Shuster use the terms to describe the activities of the children of other candidates. Shuster is supposed to be a professional, he is supposed to be objective. He is neither. MSNBC long ago gave up its objectivity-and Ms. Clinton has been treated like dirt. Its a disgrace and if I were her I would never participate in any debate on MSNBC. And I am a Obama supporter.

And then, a threat: “If you refuse to take action, women across the country, viewers, sponsors, and consumers can only assume your implicit endorsement of this type of sexist commentary on women and repugnant treatment of our children.”
Come on , Tapper. Where’s the so called “threat”? The assertion that people all over the country know MSNBC’s reporter just slandered a respectable young woman – that’s a threat??

The pimping comment was revolting. The sons and daughters of candidates on both sides of the isle have been a part of their parent’s campaigns—McCain, Huckabee, Obama, Romney…. While you might disagree with any or all of them on a variety of issues, I hope you would agree that any journalist who would slur them with the word pimp in reference to their own child deserves universal condemnation. This sort of crap debases all of us.
Obama’s silence speaks volumes about his commitment to a new kind of politics.

Good job Emily’s List! I have a five year old daughter. No way do I want her to grow up with these ancient, sexist attitudes that prevail in our society. This entire acceptance in treating women the way the media does needs to end. Including the fact that T.V. has found it acceptable to use the “B” word. I have been telling my students for several years now that this type careless degradation of women cannot be acceptable, it is not humor, it is deliberate to our sex.

The comments made by the transparently bias media about Chelsea and the relentless attacks on Hillary Clinton are living proof that sexism is alive and well. Discrimination against women continues to be the only acceptable form of discrimination in the world. It’s a disgrace.

Wow, aides for the Hillary campaign are working overtime on this blog. Keep trying to milk this for all it is worth. Maybe it will distract from Hillary’s failing campaign. If not, tell her to start tearing up again.

As a male, I believe that the real agent of change is Hillary Clinton. A female will have a different perspective of this world, that even a black male like Obama does not have. If you want change, then it’s obvious to me that Hillary is the way to go. Her enemies can smear her all they want. She is REAL change, not talk. And to have her husband in the background, is a bonus. Bill Clinton’s presidency was 10x better than the current administration.

OK, Can anyone here tell me whether any of the other candidates have had their ADULT (over 21) children campaigning for them and yet refused ANY media interviews???

Barack Obama’s campaign MUST condemn sexism and speak out against derogatory comments pointed at Senator Clinton’s daughter, as he would his own or any woman. Change is change for EVERYONE. Sexism in America is pervasive and acculturated.

Matthews, joe and shuster all need to go over to work for fox LOL they would fit in so well LOL glad someone has noticed what i noticed a long time back how bad they talked about the clintons and treated women with no respect. fat boy matthews(the spitter) lol i am sure would love it if someone said that about his wife, maybe we need to bring that guy back from Georiga that was ready to wipe his a– LOl love to see that. BO has gotten a free ride with MSNBC, and what about how HRC won CA, MA,NY,etc after the Kenndy clan came out for BO LOL she wipped their butts and sent them home with their tails between their legs,LOL voting for the first lady to be Pres. a 65 year old male from Pa

When and where do we draw the line? Sometimes I think we become so attached and defensive about the candidate we support that we fail to see the simple, objective truth in a situation like this. I am a Mother, with a 9 year old daughter, who sometimes happens to be in the living room when the news is on. Granted I can try to explain the varied definitions of “pimping” to her, both slang and otherwise, but is it not alarming that I should have to? There was a time when families with children of all ages could gather around to watch or listen to the news. What better way for citizens to connect to the events of the world that we are all a part of? Granted, there are many violent topics and images that may not be age appropriate, but in discussing Chelsea Clinton, a fine female role model for any young girl, I do think it is inappropriate, unprofessional and disappointing. If the line is not drawn now, then when? Perhaps it is because the line has not been drawn clear enough before that we actually have adults, both male and female, who are willing to make excuses for such dishonorable behavior.

Hey Joe, I am an educated woman and I support Hillary Clinton. I have a doctorate. And I read books. Now what?

Thank you Emily’s List!!
Sexism is acceptable but racism is not? What a joke!
Chelsea is a smart woman, and a proud supporter of her mother.

The phony “women’s” movement has no standing to say anything about this, having discredited themselves by saying NOTHING about Hillary’s boy using his power to procure sexual favors from subordinates.

It was the time delay between the insult and the apology that will hurt David Shuster and MSNBC, in the exact same way and for the exact same reasons similar delays have damaged other media reputations. The delay (and initial refusal to even acknowledge the mistake) clearly implied that Shuster (like Chris Matthews several weeks earlier) didn’t quite “get it” until MSNBC brass explained it to him. If media personalities want to avoid escalating mistakes like this they should take an immersion program in public relations crisis management — the advice they should follow is pretty straightforward: a proper apology, according to http://www.perfectapology.com, should always include the following:
1. a detailed account of the situation
2. acknowledgement of the hurt or damage done
3. taking responsibility for the situation
4. recognition of your role in the event
5. a statement of regret
6. asking for forgiveness
7. a promise that it won’t happen again
8. a form of restitution whenever possible
Obviously perfect apologies work best when delivered to recipients who are prepared to forgive. But when the aggrieved community sees an opportunity to push the hurt a little further then no apology is likely to be good enough. And that is precisely where we are today — we’re in the midst of a political charged election environment where the primary imperative is not to be reasonable but to search for ways to generate support for your side. When media personalities like MSNBC’s David Shuster or Chris Mathews (or MSNBC’s Don Imus, or Golf Channel’s Kelly Tilghman, etc.) screw up by insulting Chelsea or Hillary (or the Rutgers University women’s basketball team, or Tiger Woods, etc.) even perfect apologies may not work, for perfectly rational political reasons.
The real error in these cases was not the initial mistake but the fact that the best, most sincere and meticulously worded apology was the last one to be issued by those who screwed up. What is so fascinating (and perplexing) about the rising number of failed public apologies over the last few years is that so few public figures (surrounded by public relations advisers) really know how to do it well, or quickly enough.
Peter

Feminists and the Clinton campaign are enjoying every moment of Shuster’s mistake to freely advertise their political agenda. Who cares about what he said? Worse things are being said about other people, and her mother should step off the race, like Romney (who really loves his country), and allow America to move forward. She is blocking the way to transformation!

I am an educated, married, mother of three who owns her own business. Although I love to listen to Obama speak; he is inspirational, I am more inspired by Hillary and her plan of action to get our country back on track. I have never contributed to a campaign in my life but I did to hers. Not because I felt like her 5 million was an investment in her own campaign but because I realized that “It was going to take a village” to get her elected. Being a college graduate 20 some years ago and applying for a job with a big name corporation I was told that I could start as an executive secretary. Appalled that I had just spent over $40,000 on my private college education which I achieved through academic scholarships and working as many as three jobs at a time I was enraged. David Shuster’s comment was a reminder to me of how our society has still so far to go in our regard for woman and people. Disprespectful and disgraceful comments to anyone for any reason are unaaceptable, period. It is not about growing thicker skin. It is about common decency. Stick to the facts. That is why I watch the news. I have boycotted MSNBC as this is not the first instance of disprepect I have seen. There has been an overall bias towards Obama during this whole campaign. I am voting for Hillary on her merits and her merits alone. I look forward to seeing Obama gain experience and continue to contribute to the political experience in America.

One gets the impression that the stars of MSNBC, Chris Matthews and David Shuster, among others, harber a deep resentment of Hillary. Maybe she threatens their manhood. Maybe they are just macho jerks. Or, maybe they just hate the Clintons, who have made no secret of their justifiable antipathy toward the cable news-tainment personalities.

To whoever said that only uneducated women (and men) support Hillary:
I graduated from Berkeley with high marks. I have two graduate degrees from Harvard. I am about 15 years younger than Obama, and I believe I have more valuable and relevant experience than Obama does to be president (but certainly not enough). Do you wonder why I am then supporting Hillary?
My boyfriend graduated from Berkeley with high marks, and has graduate degrees from Columbia and Oxford. He has a doctorate from Oxford. He wants someone with proven experience. Who do you suppose he is supporting? Hillary.
Sorry to disappoint you, but some people care about having a candidate who has granularity and understands how to work in national politics.
Talking constantly about MLK, JFK, RFK, and Lincoln in his stump speeches for a year has been effective for Obama. People think it is inspiring. But I want someone who will talk specifics and know what they are talking about.
I don’t blame Obama for saying in one of the debates that he will consult with the “President of Canada” when he is president. I just want someone who is at this point in their career know without having to think about it that Canada has a prime minister.

I used to like to watch Hardball with Chris Matthews. I hardly ever missed it. But when Hillary Clinton started running for the Democratic nominee, he lost all objectivity. He talked about his wife Kathryn or Kathleen (his Queen as he puts it)a long time ago and implied that she and her friends certainly wouldn’t support Hillary because they were educated and intelligent and upper class. So, not only is Chris Matthews sexist, but apparently his wife doesn’t get it either. Neither Chris or David Shuster get it. I don’t watch MSNBC anymore. It’s kind of sad because they do have other unbiased reporters who are very good.

To whoever said that only uneducated latinas and latinos support Hillary:
I am latina with Ph.D., and I am proud to support Hillary Clinton.

I quit watching MSNBC when Chris Mathews made his comments about Hillary, so I am not surprised about the comments about Chelsea. It is a biased and sexist network.
I remember a few years ago the way they treated Ashleigh Banfield; their own reporter.
Bobbie
Ohio

I have never understood the problem people have with Senator Clinton, (which is the way the news media should address her since they give this respect to men who serve beside her), but it seems to also harbor with the news media and its not just NBC. I have seen it on all the big networks and please don’t even mention the local news people because their comments are even worse.
I think anyone who states its because its Hillary has their head in the sand. Look how they have treated the Speaker of the House! There is a undercurrtent of sexism in this country and it is really showing in this campaign.
I remember when the news media was all over Bill Clinton when he was running for president the first time and then they went after Senator Clinton when she made her “cookie” comment and I want to know where are the attacks on Obama or why don’t the press ask his wife about baking cookees Is they that clean of questions in his past? NO yet nothing is said and thrown at either one of them. Why aren’t men calling Obama a chicken for not wanting to debate Hillary? Because he will show once again how bad he looks when she is able to show her thoughts to his retoric.
I think this campaign for the Democratic ticket shows that there are such undercurrent seperatism that hopefully one day the media will remember the greats before them who reported the truth not their opinion.
This country is in trouble and I think the first thing we need to accept is that we no longer are the greatest country in the world and if people would like to know why perhaps they should ask why are they accepting everything instead of questioning everything..

Steve, your idea that the “comment was largely harmless” just validates what is going on in this country. Far too many men feel it is quite okay to castigate and make fair game of any and all women and simply pass it off as a joke or “oh well.” Dont know if you are married or have a girl friend, (I doubt it with that kind of attitude) but how exactly would you feel if someone kept making derogatory remarks about her and then capped it off with the pimping remark? C’mon man, grow up! This isnt 1950′s anymore where women were chattel and men could say, or do, anything without repercussion. I would just love! to hear some of your good old boy beer conversations…

I absolutely agree that it’s time to boycott NBC. There is nothing impartial about the reporting of Chris Matthews, Shuster and others on air. Journalists are supposed to remain neutral and simply report information, whereas some of these anchors sound like they are paid staff for Sen Obama’s campaign. At the first opportunity they attack Sen Clinton, but when Sen Obama acts inapropriately or shows weakness, they chose to ignore it. I’ve stopped watching the NBC station and web site and am not going to until they recognize that they are way out of line and need to clean up their act!

Claire said:
“A study by the Center for Media and Public Affairs has concluded that the media in general is biased against Hillary. Are reporters and men feeling threatened by the idea of a woman as President?”
Well, that’s certainly a very simplistic analysis. I know it might take some thought to realize that the poor relationship between the media and the Clintons might have more to do with their highly secretive and unforthcoming nature, which they take to a degree that is quite unusual for public officials. But hey – Nixon felt unfairly treated by the press too. Maybe something in his feminine nature made them feel threatened by Tricky Dick.
Cheryl said:
“I think anyone who states its because its Hillary has their head in the sand. Look how they have treated the Speaker of the House! There is a undercurrtent of sexism in this country and it is really showing in this campaign.”
As someone who knows men who think nothing nearly as critical of Pelosi as they do of Clinton, I can tell you that you’re wrong. Although you’re entitled to grab the thesis that makes you feel the coziest and most empowered.
Jennifer said:
“It seems that everyone has to walk on eggs when it comes to dealing with Hillary Clinton these days. Perhaps she should stay focused on her campaign, rather than the comments made by David Schuster. Is Chelsea being pimped out? Hell yeah. Supporting political family members does not mean ringing up big time celebrities. An election is bare knuckled process and I’m surprised that the experienced Clinton is reacting this way.”
I agree 100%. Well, nearly 100%. More like 98%. The difference is that my sense of surprise is reserved for the People who are surprised that Clinton is reacting this way. It’s actually more descript to say that, rather than “reacting”, she’s “acting” this way. She’s just very good at sniffing out whatever innocuous, meaningless item she can best pounce on to deflect herself back into the role of the victim. It’s that killer Clinton instinct for sniffing out and wallowing in the gutter of American politics, while the electorate scratches their heads and asks “How did we end up here?”
Vote for Obama if you are done with all this B.S. We Independents will have no trouble voting for McCain if you don’t.

Why isn’t Chelsea in uniform; supporting her Mon’s war? I do think that the word has changed to not be as offensive as it once was, but it is not acceptable and the reporter should be dismissed.

Inresponse to grik: We can add color to language, but there is also such thing as propriety. That comment was way out of line.

I too have been thoroughly disgusted by the commentary of the men a MSNBC. Objective? I don’t think so.
The crux of the matter is no one is being objective here.
Anyone watched the last Bill Maher show? While speaking about the Democratic candidates, he referred to Obama, correctly, as an African American, and to Hillary Clinton as
a “vaginal” American. When someone on his panel (no doubt motivated by the Robin Morgan article that has been making the rounds lately) said that it would be easier for an African American to win the Presidency than a woman, which indicated that sexism was more prevalent in this country than racism, Bill Maher replied: “Yes, unless she (the female candidate) were hot.”
So it comes down to this? Either you are hot, or you are connected to a powerful man and you ride in his coattails!
If that isn’t sexism and, yes, misogyny, tell me what is?
Hillary is accused of a lot of things, not least of which is that she stuck with Bill. If she hadn’t stuck with him, she would now be accused of breaking a marriage.
As for using Bill to get to the Senate and now to the possibility of becoming the first woman president in the US, so anyway, what’s wrong with that! Do we really believe that women still in 2008 are respected and valued enough to get somewhere on their own? What about the many glass ceilings in business and politics as well? I would use anything I could to get to a position that would actually give me the power to do something good for this troubled country.
I will proudly vote for Hillary when my state’s primary comes around, and for certain in the national elections.
Charoula

Boycott NBC?
Yeah, that’s hilarious. NBC is owned by GE. The only way to boycott GE is to stop paying your taxes at which point you will be placed in a correctional facility and stripped of all your middle-class female priviledges and perks not to mention your most fundamental human rights. Go ahead, boycott GE. I double dog dare you!

So Hillary is upset, that people said Chelsey is being “pimped”, but the Clinton campaign was quick at “Pimping” this opportunity to distract people from the real issue- that Hillary is loosing support all across the country.

I’m glad to see a woman doing the pimping. In the usual context “pimping” is men taking advantage of women and keeping them in economic bondage. I see it as a statement of power and influence. Use that power for what you believe in Chelsea!