From the Fact Check Desk: Clinton’s Questions Question
The charge was an interesting one.
"Could I just point out that, in the last several debates, I seem to get the first question all the time?" Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, said at last night’s debate in Cleveland. "And I don’t mind. You know, I’ll be happy to field them, but I do find it curious. And if anybody saw ‘Saturday Night Live,’ you know, maybe we should ask Barack if he’s comfortable and needs another pillow. I just find it kind of curious that I keep getting the first question on all of these issues, but I’m happy to answer it."
According to Fact Check Desk Associate Fact Checker Melissa Ruiz’s research, in the two debates previous to last night’s — in California and Texas, the only two two-candidate debates before last night — Clinton had been asked the first question in 14 rounds, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, in 11.
Last night the number was 9 for Clinton, 7 for Obama.
So overall in the last three debates, Clinton has been asked the first question in 23 rounds, Obama in 18.
So a minor disparity does exist, but Clinton’s curious complaint that "in the last several debates, I seem to get the first question all the time?" is inaccurate.
Not to mention likely of not much relevance to the lives of the voters of Ohio, Texas, Rhode Island and Vermont.
- jpt
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Posted by: petee | February 27, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
This was an embarrassing lapse of dignity on Hillary’s part. But then, that has been a pattern this week as things grow increasingly desperate for her campaign. One word: Un-Presidential.
Posted by: ElodieStClair | February 27, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
I am still wondering aaout this issue. When Clinton was a front-runner she did not complain about this. Why now???? She was happy with the Media throughout. Because she is not longer a front-runner so the Media is against her. She is completely desperate in this nomination campaign. I think is time for her to conced.
Posted by: I.A.T Smith | February 27, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
You left out the fact that Mrs. Clinton in all her rudeness had to be stopped from ranting more than just a few times by Russert and Williams. If she would have gotten to the point more often than to go into these ten minute tirades just like in the last debate, there would have been more time for questions. You had the feeling at one point the Russert wanted to get up and slap her to bring her back to earth. This wasn’t a debate, it was an inquisition. Don’t you think it is a bit suspicious that she won’t release her tax returns? That tells me she is hiding something. If she cant be trusted now, how can she be president? Just my opinion…
Posted by: Will | February 27, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
A entire debate went on and this is the only news worthy item that a journalist can take from it? I was wondering what was going to be the silly talking points after last night debate but was telling myself maybe the media would focus on the issues but guess not……so sad
Posted by: SJ | February 27, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Barack Obama clearly showed himself to be the most “Presidential” last night, acknowledging merits where they existed, avoiding taking swipes at Clinton on experience, tax returns,and authenticity, where plenty openings existed, and by not falling into the trap of mincing words. He showed he was able to rise above Hillary Clinton’s numerous attacks, maintaining composure, thoughtfulness, and a sense of humor at that. The right choice for 2008 is as plain to anyone who has eyes to see.
Posted by: Mannewell Darby | February 27, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Ready on Day One? and not ready to take the first question?
Posted by: James | February 27, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
What she should have said was “I get asked all the TOUGH questions first” which is true and then Mr. Hope takes her answers and agrees with them because he doesn’t know the answers. The PERFECT example of this is the Russert attempted “gotcha” question to Clinton about Putin/Medvedev. There’s no way in hell Mr. Hope would have been able to answer that question as thoroughly as Hillary did and Russert knew that. That’s why HILLARY got the question first and Mr. Hope was allowed to skate on the answer….he ended up, as usual, agreeing with Hillary about Putin hand-picking Medvedev and then took off in a whole different direction about what Bush has done with Russia/Putin. Mr. Hope’s answer had NOTHING to do with Russert’s question and, OF COURSE, Russert didn’t pin him down on it. Can’t expose Mr. Hope before the GE….he might LOSE the Primary if Russert did that!
Posted by: Vickie | February 27, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Hillary has been whinning alot lately, very un-Presidential.. waaah waaah..I can’t have it my way….
But i’m supporting a Obama/Clinton 08 ticket… VP’s can whine and no one cares… see you in 2016 Hillary for President..
Obama ’08 YES WE DID!!
Posted by: Lawrence | February 27, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Hillary is embarassing to me as a women. She whined about being first as you would in elementary school. Come on! Because of this type of bickering she has the reputation of “NOT PLAYING WELL WITH OTHERS.” Do we really want a spoiled brat to lead the country and have her “whine” when Chavez, Putin or Medveded are not playing nice with her?
Posted by: Jandie | February 27, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Nice work checking out Hillary’s claim. I was wondering if it was true or if she was just paranoid. The answer is both.
Posted by: Aurelio | February 27, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
I think what Hillary was trying to comment on in a tactful way, was the predominance of bias in the media for Obama, as pointed out in the 2 skits on sat. nite live. Anyone who has been closely following this campaign would have a hard time arguing against this premise. I think you have been fair Jake, but if you watch MSNBC, it has been like a long commercial for Obama. There are a couple of newscasters on CNN also, who haven’t been able to hide their contempt for Clinton like Gloria (sorry I can’t recall her last name). The same goes for many journalists at newsweek etc.
The bottom line is, Obama has been given a free ride while Clinton has been closely scrutinized over everything. I don’t know if it is sexism or what, but I do know that if a lot of the sexist remarks made about her where racist remarks made about Obama commentators and journalists would be in an uproar. As a woman this has been so disheartening. A male friend said at the beginning of this race, african americans were given the right to vote before women. He predicted Obama woud win over Clinton. I thought that was an outrageous premise, but I now sadly concede he was right.
Posted by: robin | February 27, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
I don’t know if you really understood why Hillary was complaining about being asked the first question most of the time. These questions require thinking on your feet and providing response. She has been able to handle them well, but the issue is that the same question, when asked of Obama, he would always asnwer “Hillary is exactly right”. That has to be frustrating to HRC because all Obama does is copy her. This way people will think, they are not different from each other on policies.
What Obama seem to be doing is taking Hillary’s positions and adding the empty rhetoric of hope to it. That in its self is plagiarism.
The media need to take a deep breat and look at how badly Hillary has been treated in this election. It is not fair. It is not fair. It is not fair.
I believe history will see it that way too.
Posted by: SO1 | February 27, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
“Ready on Day One?
And not ready to take the first question?”
This make me laughed out loud!
Hilary is hilarious! Watch “Hilary – the movie”!
Posted by: roger | February 27, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
I think the issue is about to show who
is more competent. If Hillary answered
some tough questions first, and Obama
said he thought she was right, and had
more time to prepare his own, he was
not equally tested in front of the
national media. Everyone knows Hillary
is capable. We do not have to test that;-)
Posted by: John | February 27, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
Vikie I completely agree with you. When she brought this matter up at the debate I couldn’t believe it, because I had been thinking this myself watching the past debates. I think you have addressed it well. It’s not just that she’s asked the first question a lot during the debates, but when this happens, he copies her answers. Especially on the tough questions concerning foreign policy. Sometimes it’s embarassing to listen to him when he does it. I think he knows that he doesn’t have an in-depth knowledge of the issues. It’s kind of like watching a teacher and a pupil. Last night I thought Tim Russert was completely over the top. Who does this guy think he is anyway? His tone and him shaking that paper at her was really objectionable to me. I didn’t seem him do that to Barack. But of course, he wouldn’t dare. Yes Tim Russert, you have managed to alienate even more women democrats.
Posted by: Denise | February 27, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
yeah, whaterver. shame on you the media and the public for portraying Obama as the king and Hillary as the shrew. As a woman I am totally turned off by how this campaign turned out to be. There has been so much gender discrimination nationwide in the media and how the public spoke about Hillary compared to how people spoke about Obama.
this makes me believe that America is still not ready for a woman president and shows how still women are viewed as shrews and not worthy.
I am totally turned off by how badly the media together with the public portrayed Hillary in the last few months. shame on you for not being fair and equal towards the genders. this happens all the time in daily life, women are viewed as shrews and mean, and unqualified, and men as capable and totally qualified to do the work. of course with the help of the media Obama is going to win. and who works in the media?? the majority of men work in the media and obviously they will write all these articles how they see the world and men aout there still see the world as men totally capable of doing the job and women as being as unfit and mean, and angry.
Posted by: anne-marie | February 27, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
I am an Obama supporter & I thought the treatment of Clinton & to some degree Obama was a bit demeaning last night. Tim Russertt really has NO business moderating anything resembling a neutral debate involving Hillary Clinton (he is blatantly anti- Hillary).
Also the continual airing of Obama in his ancestoral garb (though I personally like it) is somewhat inflamatory & serves to plant seeds of doubt (kind of bolster the claim that he’s a muslim crap). I think Obama is what we need now in this Country & I hope when the smoke clears Hillary & Bill will help Obama give birth to a new era in politics. Now that would be hope…
Posted by: Chapman | February 27, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
It is always after every debate someone has to say Hillary embarrassed them, Hillary could not answer this or that, Hillary was evasive and so on.
But can anyone be honest enough for just once and say that after Hillary gives he in depth answers to questions, we having Obama coming in saying I agree with Senator Clinton, or as Senator has said. This will show anyone that his man has not substance, he takes the easy way out listens to Hillary answers then agrees.
Some of you am sure notice that fact but you all so want to get rid of Hillary that you are willing to pretend that your candidate is this great debater.
Check every debate and see for yourself he has danced and waffled, hedged every debate answer waiting to build on Clinton’s response and he want to be President some of you really have to be joking indeed.
Posted by: SJ | February 27, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
As a Ron Paul supporter, all I can say is … you have GOT to be kidding. Try running for president with NO questions.
Posted by: Russ | February 27, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
I thought Hillary meant she is always asked the first question when it comes to the beginning of the debate. Then I thought she meant it about NAFTA. Now I think she wanted to bring attention to the Saturday Night Live Skit. It worked! I had friends calling about where they could find the whole clip. It’s at the HuffingtonPost. Eeriely hilarious.
Posted by: irma | February 27, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
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So overall in the last three debates, Clinton has been asked the first question in 23 rounds, Obama in 18.
So a minor disparity does exist
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It is not statistically insignificant.
Bambi should have been shot with that Russian foreign policy question last night. He would have choked.
There is also a huge difference between “denouncing statements” and “rejecting support” with regard to “Minister Farrakhan”. Clinton should have called his semantic bluff even after he got laughs.
Posted by: 4tehlulz | February 27, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
You’re right SJ. Did you notice his relief when she went ahead when asked about Russia? Even Obama knows Hillary KNOWS the answers to policy whether domestic or on foreign affairs. Hillary IS the smart one! It’s obvious…
Posted by: irma | February 27, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
I loved the comment by Hillary where she evaded the question about reinvading Iraq. “you are speaking in hypotheticals” she said. Yet, she wants to spend hours talking about a hypothetical issue such as mandatory healthcare provided by the government. I think foreign policy decisions like this are not hypothetical and she showed me, she is in no way ready to make tough decisions.
Posted by: JH | February 27, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
I agree with the IAT from early in the stream. Obama is ahead, clearly, and has the momentum from all the recent victories. Clinton needs to “catch” Obama with a mistake and it’s really tough to do that if she has to answer a question first. If she answers logically/reasonably, why not agree and add small points to strengthen his angle. He keeps ahead, and may go further ahead. It’s a debate…He’s debating and winning. I would say the two of them should get an equal # of tough questions. Must be frustrating to be Clinton. She keeps throwing the punches, and he keeps rolling with them. Makes her seem less Presidential and he more so. Desperate times for her…desperate measures by her. If that ends up being the last debate, that was her last chance to take him down….and she couldn’t.
Posted by: dave | February 27, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Hillary is the smart kid who should be class president while Obama is the know nothing class clown looking over her shoulder copying her answers. Even today he copies John McCain’s response to his debate gaffe about Al-Quaida in Iraq.
Posted by: geevill | February 27, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
The WHOLE Democratic Nomination process this year is a farce. It is SO evident that it is media-biased toward obama, and that the underlying issue about Mrs. Clinton is about sexism: the fact that she is a woman; she could be the most intelligent and gifted candidate, and be another Mother Theresa, but since she is a woman, people don’t like that and will not choose a woman.
I could see by Mrs. Clinton’s expression on her face at the debate last night, that she recognizes this, too, and she realizes that she can do nothing about it. No one can—–even the American people. The media has got it’s mind made up who is going to win, and that is what they are reporting, polls and all. To heck with what the American voters want, & the fact that there are still states in this country that need to vote on who they want as the nominee. You people DON’T COUNT, says the media…..
Is this still America? I am starting to wonder what happened to real democracy. I will take my precious “vote” that the media believes doesn’t count, & will withhold it: I will not vote in the general election. I encourage all people who support Hillary Clinton—-the “women” vote and the “older vote”, according to the know-it-all media who dissect the poll numbers—-I encourage all of you to ALSO exert your voting privlidge and refuse to vote this year, as a boycott regarding how this election year has turned into a circus by the media and Hillary-haters, Democrat and Republican, alike. Who cares about uniting the Party? I sure don’t care anymore. I am fed up. Does anybody else feel the way I do?
Posted by: Is bush an ex-Presidnet YET??? | February 27, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Boo-hoo-hoo, waaaaaah, I get asked questions first. Waaaaaaaaaah.
And if it were the other way around, it would be:
Boo-hoo-hoo, waaaaah, why does Barack always get to answer first? Waaaaaaaaaah.
Because her point is not whatever issue she is raising, her point is: waaaah, I’m a victim, you have to feel sorry for me, waaaah, people are so mean to me, boo-hoo-hoo, all you guilty people should vote for me, waaaaaah, after all I’ve been through, my life is tough, waaaaaaah, pity me, having lived only 8 years in the White House, it’s not enough I want more, waaaaaaah.
And hasn’t worked the last 138 times she tried it, and it didn’t work last night.
Posted by: dave | February 27, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
It is a great irony that so many of the comments here disparage Sen. Obama for listening to Sen. Clinton’s response and then, if valid, agreeing with her. Is it not the responsibility of public officials to consider the positions of others? Would it be better for Sen. Obama to either regurgitate what Sen. Clinton has said, even if he agrees with her position, without explicitly stating that he does? Would it be better, even if he agreed with her remarks, for him to disagree for the benefit of contrast? Is this what being a leader is? The current political climate has been created specifically because President Bush has not listened to others and has shrouded himself with sycophants. It is a mark of a confident leader to listen and when appropriate, agree. That is how progess is achieved, by establishing common ground and moving forward. Contrast this with Sen. Clinton who manages to evade questions and does not seem able to find that common ground, perhaps because she is in a contentious campaign for the office of President of the United States. But so is Sen. Obama. Which is preferable?
Posted by: H. Aslan Aslani-Far | February 27, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
I am an Obama supporter, but even through my biased eyes, the way Tim Russert treated Clinton seemed demeaning. I was especially ticked off when he asked her if she knew the name of the successor to Putin. That question seemed condescending, and was akin to a middle school teacher questioning a ten-year old student. She deserved to be treated with more respect!
Posted by: James | February 27, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
to Is bush an ex-Presidnet YET???
I totally agree with you. This democrat primary is the biggest joke I ever seen.
Especially CNN, whose anchors and pundits expressed their love towards obama and their hate towards hillary blatantly, has sickened me this much that I will never watch CNN for anything.
There is no democracy as long as the media try so hard to manipulate the minds of people. This is no different from communist country, actually even worse as they describe themselves as “most trusted name in news”, what a shame.
Posted by: LL | February 27, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Oh, please, Mr. H—-go back and watch all of the last 18 debates and analyze for yourself the evolution of obama-the-sponge, soaking up all of Clinton’s plans, one by one. It is so evident and obvious! He KNEW that she was so far ahead in the polls nationally, initially, that he knew he had to make himself sound just like her to even have a chance for people to consider him a viable candidate. Go, ahead……I dare you—–go watch every one of the debates and then come back and then we’ll discuss it further……
Posted by: God Bless America | February 27, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
LL, and the other farce is the claim: “the most knowledgable experts on the election”…..
Let’s all start a movement to boycott both obama as a nominee, and the big media…..please help me spread the word…..what comes around, goes around…..
Posted by: God Bless America | February 27, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
This is ridiculous. She needs to stop playing the victim. If you are the President, you are the one that needs to answer the tough questions first. She proved once again last night, that her emotion, irrationality, and partisan sensibilities are not qualities America wants in a President. Enough with the whining, lets get some things done for the American people. She has made this campaign about her, not the voters. Even going so far as to mock Obama supporters such as myself. That is offensive. I take my vote very seriously
Posted by: Tara | February 27, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
In response to the post by “Is Bush an ex-President yet”… I don’t know if I will withhold my vote and I’m not 100% sure it was sexism, but there truly is an unfairness in the way Senator Clinton has been treated (with a few exceptions). Ironically, I think much of the media is prejudiced against her in the same way many people are, and while they’ll all go out of their way to avoid any seeming “prejudice” against Senator Obama, they think pre-judging Senator Clinton is just fine. If the media had been able to take a fresh, realistic look at her, we would all be better for it.
Posted by: Vnd | February 27, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Is Bush An Ex Yet -
I agree with everything you expressed. I have already decided that if Obama is the nominee I will write in Hillary Clinton’name in November. I encourage every Clinton supporter to do the same.
I could care less about party unity at this point as well. Hard to unify around a farce.
Posted by: kris | February 27, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Sorry, but Hillary has lost at her own game. One year ago, I’m sure there was no doubt in her mind she would be the nominee. She’s cold, calculating, and will do anything to become president. Not only does she not understand healthcare, but she will push healthcare quality into the toilet. She commented last night about a mother who had $3 million in healhcare bills. John Edwards boo hooed about the insurance companies not paying for a dying womans liver transplant. Someone has to make these decisions about who gets the limited resources we have in healthcare. That someone is whoever is paying the bills. I ask you – would you rather a competitive free market system drive those decisions, or do you want the government deciding who gets what treatment. That’s mandatory healthcare per clinton.
Posted by: pf | February 27, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Tara, as a woman you are being sexist—-talking about how Clinton has all of these “bad qualities, that JUST SO HAPPEN to be feminine. Of course, people don’t talk about men that way……”it is just so un-leader-like to have emotions”—PLEASE. IT IS HUMAN TO HAVE EMOTIONS. Hillary Clinton is so very FAR from being irrational or illogical…..she is a very intelligent woman, and presented very clear, very detailed, very comprehensive plans to get America back on track. Obama was the one stuttering, halting in his speech, and hard to understand—-I was bored and trying to make sense of wnat his points were in the debate last night. In a few years maybe he’ll be better at debates…..
Posted by: God Bless America | February 27, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
I am also considering withholding my vote. But I will determine that according to the polls as the GE gets closer. I recommend not doing it if Obama is leading in the polls and you don’t want him to win. And don’t be afraid of McCain’s 100 years in Iraq stance. After all, Obama will re-invade Iraq after he withdraws the troops, if necessary. What’s the difference? We might as well ‘stay the course.’ Yuck!
Welcome to a rock and a hard place America!
I hope that women will now recognize the way the media, the movie industry has objectified them to the point of extinction in terms of their rights as human beings. I don’t expect young women to get it. They are in the height of their attractiveness to the opposite sex and this appeals to their vanity. But beyond a certain age they will be shell shocked and then they will know what it feels like when men do not value you on any other level than as aa sexual object. Instead of this being a victory for the AA community it has been a tremendous loss for women’s rights. Obama has not aligned himself with any issues. Especially not to any concerning the black community. I’m AA so trust me, I’ve been waiting to hear. I’ve also not heard him speak on women’s issues either. You Obamaton Hillary-haters are taking way too much for granted with this guy. And you are in for a shock. He wants to be President. He’ll be the first biracial president, just like Halle Berry was the first biracial actress to win an Academy Award for Best Leading Actress. What? His caucasian heritage should not count? Do you white people really accept that?
The media HAS been biased in so many other subtle ways. They don’t tell us exactly WHAT to think, but based on the stories they cover, they DO tell us WHAT to think about. This whole campaign they’ve told the masses to think about the incredible MOVEMENT of Barack Obama and what a new and fresh political candidate he was with fabulous original oratory and a new uplifting campaign. Didn’t matter that he was CLONED from the same political DNA as Deval Patrick. All we had to think about was how FRESH he was compared to Hillary. The media continuously harped on how DIVISIVE Hillary is. So people thought about that. They never reported on Obama’s background and readiness. They didn’t even show a video of him in 2004 saying that he needed more experience. They didn’t report how it was the Obama camp who first played the race card. Instead, they run a story a couple of days ago from Matt Drudge, who hates the Clintons, is a dyed-in-the-wool Republican and you would have thought that Drudge was Walter Cronkite. So we think about Hillary playing dirty politics, instead of questioning the validity of the source. But I don’t expect a nuanced-challenged Forest Gump American voting public to even get what’s important in all of this. There’s nothing more important to an American than having an UNINFORMED OPINION. Please don’t confuse people with too much information!
Thanks Jake Tapper! You’re doing a really splendid job!
Posted by: lapalabra | February 27, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Yep, if obama wins we can thank the media for their relentless effort to allow Obama to shine. Anderson Cooper (Keeping it Honest or is that BIASED) with idiotic surprise says something like, I don’t know guys do you think the media has been biased (not the exact quote). What does he think we’re stupid? I visit numerous blogs and everyone is flooded with blogs from both clinton and obama supporters that the media has favored obama from the start. There’s no denying it ! Anger is at it’s PEAK for many!
Posted by: catherine in nm | February 27, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Yet another attempt, no matter how minor, at self-victimization or self-targeting as a defenseless candidate manipulated by the Evil Mass Media Conglomerates. Although Sen. Clinton may feel she’s a victim or a target (and, based on many of the replies to your blog, that isn’t far from the truth), the facts just don’t bear that out. Many thanks for your fact-check, Jake!
Posted by: chuck | February 27, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Hillary nevers answers a question about the negative aspects of her plans, ever. She redirects then start laying into Obama. Of course a good moderator will try to pull her back, it’s her attack Obama style that put her in the position she’s in w/ media. All these whiners are just like Hillary, blame someone else.
Posted by: Miss Direction | February 27, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Miss Direction
Glad to see someone else noticed the new voice of the clinton campaign. Boo hoo for me. Everybody is attacking me. Nobody likes me. Everybody likes him. Grow Up Hillary. If you can’t handle this, how can you handle the rigors of presidential office. Time will show that we’ll be much better without her.
Posted by: apple pie | February 27, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Mr. H. you make an incredibly valid and lucid argument…I’d like to add to your thoughts that as a female I am disgusted that Sen. Clinton plays the victim card. I don’t recall President Reagan during his re-election campaign pandering to voter semtiments by saying: “I took a bullet for this country, vote for me.” That argument would hold more weight than Sen. Clinton’s teary-eyed plea that her husband cheated on her and she forgave him and now the American people should reward her loyalty, or stupidity, by voting for her in this election. To vote for Sen. Clinton simply because she is a woman discounts the grave effects it may have on the progess to be achieved on this front by women if her inability to unite the nation (as seems probable given her history and these Democratic debates) results in a catastrophic presidency built upon failed policy and personal hubris.
Posted by: Miss_T | February 27, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
I am an Obama supporter who thinks Clinton is a habitual liar. But I don’t appreciate Tapper trying to whitewash the unprofessionalism of television news’ handling of the debates.
When it comes to who was asked the first three questions of the night in the last two debates I think it was Clinton in all six instances. That gives Obama an advantage when tension is the greatest. If Mr. Tapper is going to overlook the outrageous behavior of Tim Russert, his overt bias, his braggadocio and his pomposity says to me that if commercial television can’t resist making the debates into entertainment then half of the debates need to be televised on PBS. Behavior like Mr. Russert’s requires a suspension by MSNBC rather than the support by Tapper’s silence on last night’s display.
Gwen Ifil would have contradicted Clinton’s mendacious remarks in her polite assertive manner. She not Russert should be the standard of television journalism.
Those who are disgusted with Washington as usual must be equally offended by commercial television’s devaluation of the electoral process. The importance of this is equal to the importance of electing Borack Obama.
Posted by: Ron M | February 27, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
It’s over, give Hillary a break.
Posted by: Ron M | February 27, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Tim Russert is the best mediator I’ve seen in a debate (and boy have we had many). He forced both candidates to answer hard questions. I did not find him harder on clinton than obama. Just glad that we won’t have to endure another repeat of the same debate over and over.
Posted by: clintongotafacelift | February 27, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Obama supporters, you can stop your spin now.
Obama campaign sent out emails to his supporters to project the similar information on internet media to create false impressions, like Clinton played race card, clinton played victim card, clinton faked tears, clinton do and say whatever to win.
Shame on you! Obama and his supporters! CNN manipulated the news, Obama and his supporters manipulated the comment board!
This country should never ever been ruled by a despicable person like this, never.
Posted by: LL | February 27, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
God Bless America: Emotional self-control is not a sexist attack on Sen. Clinton as evidenced by the meltdown that destroyed Mr. Dean’s presidential run. The point here is, it does not matter if you believe it is a feminine quality, for in the end it is an emotional response, but one that does not belong, nor does well serve, as public servant, much less the President of the United States.
Posted by: Miss_T | February 27, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
LL: Are we to believe that MSNBC and CNN and every other network, in cahoots with some CGI specialized production company inserted the false tears and the voice-over’s onto Sen. Clinton during these live broadcasts and that somehow we should discount all of these things as manufactured and instead concentrate on the pandering stances to whatever group is present or will be voting in the next primary?
Posted by: Miss_T | February 27, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
kris, you don’t fool us. We are not Obaba cult members and fool easy. Clinton supporters would not write her name in. we would vote for McCann instead.
Posted by: geevill | February 27, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Why do the Clinton supporters rally around her? C’mon…she exaggerates and lies. 30 years of experience? Not even. She moved to NY to get visibility and become a senator so she could eventually run. That is it. Being first lady or a mother doesn’t give her any special capabilities to be commander in chief or run the corporation that is the USA.
You slam Obama…yet he tries to be positive about working together. That is his message.
You want to talk universal healthcare…then realize it begins with an overhaul of the whole system; not simply ‘forcing’ people to buy insurance to service the corrupt hospital and drug corporations.
I actually like Ron Paul but yet as the clearest thinker the press simply ignores him.
Posted by: JetTull | February 27, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Why is it now that media just began to mention Obama’s middle name “hussein” and his racist church, still mostly by fox news?
No one mentioned a word about Obama’s background until he is now mostly sure the nominee.
Did anyone investigated the picture Obama wearing turban? Who is the old guy in that picture?
Why is Rezko case scheduled on Mar 5th, right after Ohio Texas primaries?
American people have every right to know who their future president is and what he has done in the past BEFORE they vote for him.
Posted by: LL | February 27, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Geevill – If you want to post you may want to put a coherent sentence together first.
What are you talking about? Who the heck is Obaba and McCann?
Posted by: Kris | February 27, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
LL: This concentration on Obama’s middle name is absurd, do people today somehow equate Muhammad Ali with terroism simply because he has a Muslim name? Remember, Sen. Obama had no choice in this matter, his father, a Kenyan gave him the name. Ali, on the other hand, chose his name, changing it from Cassius Clay Should Muhammad Ali be on the Department of State’s terror watch? As for the elder Somali in the photo it has been accepted by all sides that he is nothing more than a town elder who received Sen. Obama during his trip to Somalia. As a member of Congress our leaders meet with all sorts of individuals…this is neither a matter to be “investigated” or pursued for it typical in the course of public service.
Posted by: H Aslan Aslani-Far | February 27, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
LL: Sen. Obama cannot control when a federal case is charged or brought to trial, just as he cannot control who can endorse his candidacy if he has not sought their support. As for the American people needing disclosure, I agree, and it is for this reason that Sen. Clinton’s repeated refusal to turn over tax and other campaign documents is troubling.
Posted by: H Aslan Aslani-Far | February 27, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
It is obvious to everybody except the mindless unthinking Obama enthusiasts that the reason Hillary Clinton got the first questions was for Obama the clueless to copy her answers. Any person with any common sense and whose brain doesn’t shut down can see that all the debate ater debate has proved that Obama doesn’t have any clue what he’s talking about.Obama is a fraud. American people should be careful to put such an unsubstantial cheat in the White House.
Posted by: Cleareye | February 27, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Did or didn’t Obama have muslim father and muslim step father and muslim half sister?
Did or didn’t Obama’s friend Rezko have connections to some middle east millionaires?
Did or didn’t Obama benefit from the deal with Rezko and get additional lot for free?
Is or isn’t Obama’s pastor is anti-Israel and praised the extreme islamists?
Does or doesn’t Obama’s church have black center value belief?
Is or isn’t Nader right on Obama’s pro-Palestinians stance?
Did or didn’t Michelle Obama say “for the first time in her adult life, I am really proud of America.”?
Did or didn’t Michelle Obama mention in her thesis that the racial tension is insurmountable in American society?
Shall or shall NOT I be concerned about Obama’s middle name?
I think yes, after asking myself these questions, I think I am very concerned.
Posted by: LL | February 27, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Jake,
Even though, in my opinion, Hillary’s complaint is not a substantive issue, in all fairness to her, 23 to 18 represents almost 30% of the time. So, perhaps her feelings of frustration about this are plausible and not just the rantings of a disgruntled menopausal presidential candidate. She is seeing this in entirely negative terms because her support has so dramatically eroded. Perhaps if she were ahead, gaining momentum or at least slowing Obama’s momentum, she would see these ‘first-to-field-the- question’ situations as opportunities to set the tone, lead and shine, instead of indications of media bias or an injustice of some kind.
She’s losing something that is very important to her…the potential to lead this country as president. Whether I have a favorable or unfavorable view of her, her policies or her tactics, I do feel for her distress.
Posted by: Mary | February 27, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
LL: If these unsubstantiated matters concern you so, you must spend a lot of sleepless nights worrying about the Clinton Whitewater scandal and the accompanying allegations that Mr. Foster was murdered and the Bush association with the Carlyle Group and their close ties to the Saudis (in case you forgot, they are Arabs) and the fact that Cheney was CEO of Haliburton even though he had never been in business before THAT job and the KBR scandals and the billions and billions of dollars that have been absconded by this President for the benefit of his cronies…yes, I do see your point and these concerns should matter because…ahh, because…eh?
Posted by: H Aslan Aslani-Far | February 27, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Isn’t Hillary still refusing to withhold her White House records and income tax statements? That would show both her “experience” and financial sources. Why doesn’t she want to share them with Americans?
Posted by: Mary | February 27, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Maybe Hillary Clinton got the first question because the moderators were granting her courtesy as both a female and the fact that she is a more senior Senator than Mr. Obama? If this is the case, as opposed to some conspiracy against Senator Clinton, then it would be easy to rationalize why she would have 3 more leading questions than Sen. Obama. In addition, these numbers also reflect 2 follow-up questions to Sen. Clinton (as she has a tendancy to go on and on) and are nothing that Sen. Obama can control.
Posted by: H Aslan Aslani-Far | February 27, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Looks like the Clinton campaign is out in force trying to stop people from voting! Bill was busy in Texas asking people to vote twice!
Posted by: Joseph | February 27, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Half of my questions are already answered very clearly by the actions/records of who is concerned, if you will do a little research on your own.
Now I want the rest of my questions answered by the primaries held. American people have waited to long for a clear answer.
Posted by: LL | February 27, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Joseph: In defense of Fmr. President Clinton, in Texas 65% of the delegates are garnered during a first phase of voting and 35% during a subsequent “open window”. It is the only state in the nation, therefore, where voting twice is not only legal, but encouraged.
Posted by: H Aslan Aslani-Far | February 27, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
LL: I think if you read my responses it is clear I have done more than just a little research of my own, which begs the question, if you have, what sources because it seems you are misguided.
Posted by: H Aslan Aslani-Far | February 27, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
For all of you women who are joining the sexist crowd by throwing insults at Hillary not based on policy but on the fact that she is a woman will one day be sorry. You will be on the other end of it one day very soon because that is how karma works. You will wonder why things aren’t fair and why women don’t get more respect and you will realize you helped to make it happen. I also will write-in Hillary’s name if she doesn’t win the primary. I hope there are thousands of women who will quietly stand up and do the same.
Posted by: Firefighter | February 27, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Go ahead and write in Hillary’s name. Nothing could better epitomize the legacy of what Clinton’s primary campaign has become: a divisive, scorched-earth, its-all-about-me, win-at-all-costs, sore-loser, whiny, hysterical, hissy fit.
By all means, continue in that tradition. Barack will handily take the White House without your help.
Posted by: TexasDem | February 27, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Firefighter: Are you voting for Sen. Clinton just because she’s a woman?
Posted by: H Aslan Aslani-Far | February 27, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
When I think of Obama I think of plastic trees. Missing poeple on milk cartons, hollow logs, boy wonder, the California faultline and mussolini.
Posted by: eleven22 | February 27, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Eleven22: What does that mean?
Posted by: H Aslan Aslani-Far | February 27, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
I think media is really inconsistent and biased in this election. When Hillary was ahead in polls every one said she looks strong and presidential and now because Obama is ahead in polls he looks strong and presidential. I thought Hillary was very strong and looked very presidential in yesterday’s debate. Most of the time either Obama stuttered before he answered or he agreed with Senator Clinton’s answers. But Obama can do no wrong in media’s eyes. Even he will burp media will say see how wonderful his burp is.
Another point, I believe Hillary was correct in saying that she always gets the first question. When you are second to answer you listen to first candidate and answer according to their answers and you also get some time to think before you answer.
Then media says Hillary is not funny enough. A president’s election is a serious business not a joke. You don’t’ have to be funny to prove that you are qualified.
And lastly, I feel this country is not ready for a woman president. You will select a black, white, red or yellow man before you elect a woman president. A woman will never be paid same as a man for the same job. A woman will not get the promotion if she is competing with a man for the same job. And we call this country equal opportunity country. By the way I am neither Clinton supporter nor Obama supporter.
Posted by: Nisha | February 27, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
The sad thing about this entire democratic primary has been the media’s total biase against Senator Clinton. Americans are talking more about the media’s coverage of the primary rather than the issues we face. MSNBC, CNN, NBC are you
kidding- you don’t think your reporting is baised? Do you think all Americans are stupid? When I need the news from now on, I’ll tune into PBS and the BBC. I’m sick of listening to these bone-heads!!!
Posted by: Joy Brousseau | February 27, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Firefighter, Is Bush an Ex-President Yet, Others too. This election campaign is a farce. The media and TPTB seem to have elected Barack Obama as their Democratic nominee from the start. I remember after the Iowa caucus results came in, listening to a roundtable discussion (consisting of 4 men)on a cable news show, remarking how Hillary Clinton’s campaign was over. They said she was done. One man said that he thought she better save all of her remaining campaign money for the state of NY because she probably won’t win there either. I was stunned by these comments. But I didn’t realize at the time, that this was just the beginning of the completely biased media campaign against Hillary Clinton. Of course, we all know how she went on to win the New Hampshire primary next(down by some 13 points in their polling a few days before that primary). After this win, they said it was because she had a teary-eyed moment. Can you imagine their arrogance? Yes, women bailed her out because of it, they claimed. What? Did I hear this right? Are they kidding? Super Tuesday’s results when she won the big Democratic states, such as NY, NJ, MA, CA, etc. were completely downplayed. Never did I hear it mentioned, how important these states are for a Democratic nominee to be able to win the general election.
Barack Obama has gotten a free pass from the media. They have promoted him, sensationalized him, and have sung his praises. If I hear Hillary Clinton being mentioned, it is always involving negativity.
Hillary Clinton has had to battle not only Barack Obama in this campaign but the completely biased attack machine known as the “media”. Every cable news station and almost every single one of their commentators are guilty of it. Sexism — absolutely. Do they not recognize they are offending women out there? I am a woman and a Hillary Clinton supporter, and am outraged by all of this. And believe me, many, many other women are too. I am supporting Hillary Clinton, not just because she is a woman, but because I feel that she is the best qualified candidate. She is smart, has experience, has a detailed grasp of the problems that face this nation and has well thought out solutions to make change a reality. Where is the respect for this candidate? Where is the respect for our Democratic process?
If Hillary Clinton does not win the Democratic nomination, I will also be writing her name in as my choice. I know there are many other women who will be doing the same thing. I feel the media bias is staring to get some coverage in the media now, but they have yet to own up to it. Maybe they will have to own up to it, once the election results come in.
Posted by: Denise | February 27, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
He was the man from the people, for the people.
He is the man that will redeem us from the loss of the war.
His movement is the organised will of the people.
People rise! and vote!
Don´t give for your community, sacrifice!
He is the young, fresh, charismatic man who challenged the status quo with great speeches and gained momentum by blaming the loss in WWI as the main cause of the economic crises and inflation.
All of the above are true slogans of 1923/1933 campaign posters from Germany.
Freaky….
Posted by: Liwai from China | February 27, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
>>…in all fairness to her, 23 to 18 represents almost 30% of the time…<<
Ummm, no. 23+18 = 41. The difference between them was 5 questions. 5/41 = 12.2% – nowhere near 30%. Hillary was asked the 1st question 56% of the time, Obama 44%. If you're going to use figures to bolster your point, they better be accurate figures. Much ado about nothing, methinks…
Posted by: rlwainwright | February 27, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Remember,
There’s always Ralph. If we don’t clean up our environmental act, sexism, racism, jobs and wars won’t mean much as New York sits in water up to its 13th story windows. 911 will look like a picnic.
I believe Hillary is on the right track to turn environmentalism into jobs and consequently help save us from self-destruction. I don’t know Obama’s plan for earth renewal.
Posted by: youbetcha | February 27, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Joseph: are you serious, or are you stupid? Texans have a political “primary/caucus”, in which Texans can go vote, and if they can get a receipt of proof that they had voted, then they can, if they so choose, also vote in their caucus, also.
Posted by: God Bless America | February 27, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Hillary insisted on having the debate and than complains about getting the first question. If it was such a hardship why didn’t she ask to establish debate rules beforehand. Does anyone remember what the first question was at any of these debates? There are more important issues than this question thing.
Before anybody knew who Barack Obama was, Hillary was the darling of the media. She has received a lot of free exposure the last two years. There is plenty of bias shown towards both candidates. Obviously many people like Barack Obama. There must be a reason and I do not think you can blame his rise or her fall on the media. The people who care; read, look, listen, and make up their own minds.
Posted by: Sam | February 27, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Liwai from China: 6:28:21 PM post—–
EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT comparison…..and scary, too……..what are some Americans thinking, suppoorting obama?
Posted by: God Bless America | February 27, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
to those who plan to write in hillary’s name if obama gets the nomination – i hope you’ll consider voting republican instead. i’ve never voted republican before, and have been voting since mcgovern’s race. but i’m voting republican this year. writing in hillary’s name, or voting nader, is a good symbolic act, but actually voting for mccain is the only way to be sure obama doesn’t get elected. not only must obama lose votes, but mccain must get more than obama does. just my suggestion,,,,,,,
Posted by: so saddened | February 28, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
Jake, Did anyone give you any information on all the Democratic candidates. I know that in the earlier debates, Obama would tend to agree with Hillary, Edwards, and others, then add his words and rearrange to look like those were his original thoughts. He has gotten a little smoother in rearranging words to look like his own, but it is still very noticeable to me.
Posted by: georgia | February 28, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
Some of you forget that the media was claiming that Obama would win some of the earlier primaries, when Hillary did, and it made the media look like idiots. The medias were the ones whinning, and the only way they can soothe their idiotic media coverage is to strike back at Hillary and her family. When Hillary complains about something, the media claims she’s whinning. I believe in the dictionary the words complain and whine, have two totally different meanings. But, if Obama complains, he has a right to do so, and its not whinning. I would call this double standard, ones a woman and the others a man.The buzzword for Obama’s campaign is “change”. He tosses it around without saying what this “change”is. Just like last nite’s debate…….how can one vote for a candidate that can’t tell the people what or how he will help America with this word “change”. Is this change going to be that Washington is to become the new Hollywood of America, since the media seems to think that he’s the new Rock Star.
Posted by: Mary | February 28, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
Sam: Have you watched all of the debates? We have been paying close attention in all the debates. Obama has been very prolific in agreeing to the previous candidates’ stance on an issue, agreeing with it, then spinning and rearranging to make it appear the original thoughts were his. That way, he does not have to be at a loss for substance on the issues. He did it with John Edwards and others, but especially with Hillary. Who else knows the issues better than she? And who published plans on many of the issues three months before Obama gave out similar or look-alike plans? Hillary, of course. She is the work horse and the one who never gives up. She’s tough!
Posted by: georgia | February 28, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
Neither Hillary nor Obama can win in November. Many Obama supporters will not vote for Hillary if she is the nominee and likewise many Hillary supporters will not vote for Obama if he is the nominee. Passions seem to be very strong and will get stronger as this fiasco goes on. I hope the super delegates will reject both of these egotists and come up with a better qualified nominee with less baggage and can win in November.
Posted by: satish | February 28, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am
No sooner had the bell rung starting the Ohio debate, then the reporters came charging out at Clinton. All of the questions, that’s right all of the questions in the first 40% of the debate were aimed at Clinton. In some cases, Obama had followup answers.
Excuse the long post, but this shows how the questioners banged unrelentingly at Clinton out of the gate
“MR. WILLIAMS: A lot has been said since we last gathered in this forum, certainly since — in the few days since you two last debated. Senator Clinton, in your comments especially, the difference has been striking. And let’s begin by taking a look…
MR. WILLIAMS: Senator Clinton, we’re here in Ohio. Senator Obama is here. This is the debate. You would agree the difference in tone over just those 48 hours was striking…..
MR. WILLIAMS: On the topic of accurate information, and to that end, one of the things that has happened over the past 36 hours — a photo went out the website The Drudge Report, showing Senator Obama in the native garb of a nation he was visiting, as you have done in a host country on a trip overseas.
Matt Drudge on his website said it came from a source inside the Clinton campaign. Can you say unequivocally here tonight it did not? …
MR. WILLIAMS: I — well, here’s another important topic, and that’s NAFTA, especially where we’re sitting here tonight. And this is a tough one depending on who you ask. The Houston Chronicle has called it a big win for Texas, but Ohio Democratic Senator Brown, your colleague in the Senate, has called it a job-killing trade agreement. Senator Clinton, you’ve campaigned in south Texas. You’ve campaigned here in Ohio. Who’s right?
…..
MR. RUSSERT: I want to ask you both about NAFTA because the record, I think, is clear. And I want to — Senator Clinton. Senator Obama said that you did say in 2004 that on balance NAFTA has been good for New York and America. You did say that. When President Clinton signed this bill — and this was after he negotiated two new side agreements, for labor and environment — President Clinton said it would be a force for economic growth and social progress. You said in ’96 it was proving its worth as free and fair trade. You said that — in 2000 — it was a good idea that took political courage. So your record is pretty clear.
Based on that, and which you’re now expressing your discomfort with it, in the debate that Al Gore had with Ross Perot, Al Gore said the following: “If you don’t like NAFTA and what it’s done, we can get out of it in six months.
The president can say to Canada and Mexico, we are out. This has not been a good agreement.” Will U.S. president say we are out of NAFTA in six months?
…..
MR. RUSSERT: Senator Clinton, on the issue of jobs, I watched you the other day with your economic blueprint in Wisconsin saying, this is my plan; hold me accountable. And I’ve had a chance to read it very carefully. It does say that you pledge to create 5 million new jobs over 10 years.
And I was reminded of your campaign in 2000 in Buffalo, my hometown, just three hours down Route 90, where you pledged 200,000 new jobs for upstate New York. There’s been a net loss of 30,000 jobs. And when you were asked about your pledge, your commitment, you told The Buffalo News, “I might have been a little exuberant.” Tonight will you say that the pledge of 5 million jobs might be a little exuberant?
……
You can cite all the stats you want, but the transcript of the debate says it all on this matter.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | February 28, 2008, 3:12 am 3:12 am
My daudhter and her boyfriend are in college and are big Obama supporters. I asked them and some of their friends why are they supporting Obama. Their answer was because he is “COOL”. Not one of them knew what he stands for. Oh yes they also knew he stands for CHANGE. Just like Obama they were clueless what that means.
Posted by: satish | February 28, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am
Whoever you are for in this election cycle you should be outraged at the way much of the press has been on a crusade to drive Hillary out of the race. It has been the most one-sided, advocacy I have ever seen in any national election by the fourth estate. It has amounted to millions of dollars in free negative advertising for Obama. And if a candidate calls the media on it, they’re subject to more abuse. Really shameful.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | February 28, 2008, 3:53 am 3:53 am
Why just tepidly denounce the anti-semitic remarks? Why not the racist and gay bashing stances? This was a time to truly show leadership in race relations and he FAILED. He should have been adament that I don’t approve of any of Farrakan’s positions. Farrakan is the equivalent of the Grand Dragon of the KKK. Would Obama not staunchly oppose the Grand Dragon’s endorsement?
Posted by: dc | February 28, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
I think it goes back to her white house era. I had read that the strongest connection the Clintons had as a couple, was that they believed that everyone was out to get them, and the only people they could trust were each other.
I just wish she would have more definitive plans (don’t pander to your audience), release your tax returns, and don’t expect evertyone to push the “I believe” button when you offer vague solutions
Posted by: John | February 28, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
rlwainright:
>>Ummm, no. 23+18 = 41. The difference between them was 5 questions. 5/41 = 12.2% – nowhere near 30%.
Hey thanks for the math lesson. You correctly point out the difference is insignificant to cause such a stir (sorry, basic math skills have always been just beyond my grasp!)
My larger point was that Hillary’s interpretation of these situations is colored by her (apparent) eroding status in the race. Her campaign seems to be in a bit of a mess; who knows, maybe even quicksand. So, her distress is understandable, whether or not you like or support her political candidacy, and whether her complaint is based in objective or even significant facts.
Posted by: Mary | February 28, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
Well, Hillary was getting 56% of first questions and Barack 44%. If that were an election, it would be called a 12% margin of victory and it would certainly be called significant.
You need to analyze not just the number but which questions. Hillary gets more of the tough policy questions. She lays out detailed answers and then Barack can just say “what Hillary said” and look thoughtful and generous. Barack gets more easy ones like “when did you feel most tested.” It makes a big different.
Posted by: Judith | February 28, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Satish, How about some reasons *YOU* are supporting Clinton??? It is kind of hard to believe that College Educated kids haven’t bothered to do a little research…..
Honesty and Forthrightness?
Tax Returns..Hillary, NO Obama, YES
Hillary has a long history of refusing to turn over SUBPOENAED RECORDS.
Obama has no such problem. Since a Candidate can be disqualified based on those records, they should be mandatory BEFORE even becoming a candidate.
Refused to acknowledge during NINETEEN Debates that she had made a mistake in voting for the Iraq war. Effectively took back the acknowledgement she FINALLY made in her 20th dabate, within minutes of making it, by saying she “was against this war from the beginning.” ??????
Obama has made very, very, clear his opposition to this war from the very beginning, even when it was Politically Incorrect to do so.
Not to mention that the Co-Presidency of the Clintons accomplished the MOST Military Actions in History. 30 plus.
At one point, they used up all of the Strategic Missile Stockpile of the United States, aiding Kosovo into becoming the Heroin Capital of the world. (Afganistan now holds that title)
It is bad enough that the Clinton Supporters know nothing of HER History, but turning a blind eye to her making a disaster of her own campaign, thinking she should win an election on pity, her emotional instability to the point of embarassment, and her inability to understand that there are many Americans who either know or can esily check up on her lies, were what did her in.
The press reports the facts. (Tell me one thing they have said about her that wasn’t true) She is responsible for those facts. If she can’t take the heat, her best bet is to get out of the kitchen.
In fact, the Press could write a book on the scandals of this woman. I think they are far too easy on her.
Posted by: Rebecka | February 28, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Vickie, you are blaming the moderators because Hillary got all the tough questions????
Obama was AGAINST NAFTA.
Obama was AGAINST the Iraq war, even when it was considered Politically Incorrect.
Clinton lied about her support for each, UNTIL Russert called her on HER very own RECORD.
She finally admitted somewhat to both but almost immediately after her admission on the Iraq war she said, “But I have been against it from the beginning”?????
A little later she said something to the effect that her campaign was about “Change” and “Hope”????? That coupled with her moronic “Celestial Choir” skit is ample proof of her hypocrisy.
Little green men from mars must be running her Campaign because that terrible mess certainly can’t be her fault. Nothing ever is. (sarcasm)
So Hillary, in the extremely unlikely event you win the nomination, what happens when we find out (from your Tax Return) that you had foreign Contributors? McCain gets elected by default,or you are confident you could show once again that the laws do not apply to you?
I’m still trying to figure out why you weren’t sent to prison for hiding Vincent Foster’s records that were so incrimination to your Co-Presidency, even AFTER having been in YOUR possession for all those months. I guess you didn’t do enough editing?
Posted by: Rebecka | February 28, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
What’s the difference who gets the first question? Is she just upset that being asked first, she doesn’t have as much time to formulate a convincing lie?
Posted by: Larry | February 28, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
If Hillary is afraid of tough questions how would she come up with tough solutions if she became president??? The easiest of all solutions she is likely to face from now on is to reveal her tax returns. If she can’t do that instantly, then who can trust her with ambigious instructions and decision- making
Posted by: FOYAMA TANGI | February 28, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
If Hillary can manage to pull off at least TX and/or OH and RI on March 4th, then her campaign will get a big boost. If this were to happen I’d love for them to schedule another debate before the PA primary which isn’t until April 22nd. But this time, Hillary should only agree to a debate if they can be in sound proof booths next to each other. That way, she can answer all the questions first and not have to worry about him copying her answers because he won’t be able to hear them. Only the moderators and the audience will. I bet we would all notice a big difference in his performance.
Posted by: Diane | February 28, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
Jake,
The debate in Texas… she was asked almost every question first… he had two minutes to think about it, slam her at the end, she had no chance to rebut it, on to the next question.
Posted by: Chuck | February 29, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
Well I went and saw Bill Clinton speak tonight in Ohio and if everyone went to see him speak in person you might get a a more honest portrayal of his campaigning for her. He was awesome. He is one powerful speaker folks. I think if they played his entire speeches on television people might get a more accurate picture then what the media likes to portray to you. This was a man who was up there being as genuine as he could be. He actually was quite believable and said many many things that made a whole lot of sense. I think everyone should go see Bill Clinton speak at a rally. I think if they portrayed Bill the way they should be portraying a former president campaigning for his wife then everyone would be voting for Hillary. This man knows what the hell he is talking about, flat out. Go see him if he comes to your town, you’ll see.
Posted by: Ellie | February 29, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
And oh yea, I also got to shake his hand. It really was a pretty awesome experience.
Posted by: Ellie | February 29, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
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