Hillary: Bring Me the Head of David Martin Shuster

The questions show an attitude of arrogance and the belief that the media and journalists are above accountability. The freedom of the press is used as a shield for comments that know no bounds in decency and viciousness.
Shuster should be fired and MSNBC should cease sheltering him from full accountability.

Shuster should be fired and MSNBC should cease sheltering him from full accountability. However, that is not enough. MSNBC reporters are playing God these days, since HRC ran for Presidency. Can anyone tell what their problem is? Anyone???

we watch chris mathews and msnbc regularly,and long before they are caught with this kinds of remarks,we felt that msnbc and hardball was very partial in their comments for obama and very much against clinton.DO NOT TRY TO INFLUENCE ANYBODY.we do not want to get stuck with the president of any news persons pick.The fact that you said these nasty things,you do not deserve to be on that job.

The comment was in very poor taste, and disparages a young woman,. who like her mother, hanldes herself with dignity. When Don Imus insulted the ladies basket ball team members, there was a tremendous level of commotion that culminated in his separation from the station – why is this different ? The family members of candidates are not ‘fair game’ for mean spirited attacks – that the Press would be able to handle themselves in this manner while hidihg behind the 1st ammendment is disgraceful ! Sexual slurs are just as inappropiate as racial slurs !

In answer to your questions, JPT:
1) I believe a candidate may express an opinion about whom a media organization should or should not have on its staff. Top news analysts for the major networks are, in my opinion, public figures. The media organization doesn’t have to take the suggestion about the hiring or firing. A free press needs to be free of government coercion, and Sen. Clinton is an elected official.
2) I think firing would be too harsh. I think a reprimand and suspension and having to deliver the public apology are sufficient. He needs to be given a second chance.
3) I thought his apology was sincere and contrite. I think he felt very humiliated.
4) For Sen. Clinton to prolong this matter after the apology does, in my opinion, arouse suspicion that the campaign would like to use the situation to generate sympathy among voters.

If the same comment had been used in reference to the Obama campaign, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the NAACP would be screaming bloody murder. Where are they at right now?

If someone had said that Obama was pimping out his wife Michelle, not only would they have been immediately fired, their career would be over, and the network would be groveling. In fact, I dont even know if would be safe for the guy to go out in public.
MSNBC’s coverage of this race has been one sided, mean spirited and repulsive.
Fire both of them. Clinton, her entire team and any supporters should boycott this station until they start behaving like journalists.
If I had a daughter, I wouldn’t let her watch the mysoginy that passes as news commentary on this broadcaster for fear she might begin to think lesser of herself or her potential as a woman.
Enough already.

Haven’t seen paranoia like this since Tricky Dicky. Better up that Prozac prescription and pass some around to the rest of the nut cases at campaign headquarters.

I get the outrage, at least initially. But I think the harping on it by Clinton is likely to backfire.
Has anyone ever heard the term “pimping my ride” “pimp my crib” or other variations? That expression — and other variations — have become a part of modern slang and don’t necessarily mean someone’s turning tricks on a corner.
And i, as a woman, thinks she doth protest too much at this point. It’s coming across as very calculated to me.
If only she could find some way to blame obama????

Obama should thank Hillary for not doing debate. Did any one remember SC debate?

1) The media needs protection from the candidates.
2) I think even suspension is to much. He was asking a question, not making a political statement.
3) The apology should have been the end of it.
4) This is just a stunt by Clinton to get some free press and votes.

The media guy has been suspended from his job for his use of the slang; so the ever-mean and unforgiving Clintons are just grandstanding FOR SYMPATHY VOTES .. AGAIN!
If the ‘parents’, Clintons, were this outraged when the relatively YOUNGER MONICA LEWISNSKI WAS HAVING HER LIFE DESTROYED by a ‘stained dress’ in the Oval Office by the Clintons, then one could consider Hillary’s present response as genuine.
Where was the outrage for Monica Lewinski, who WAS USED by the far more ‘adult’ Clintons? And to think of it, there was more than a mere slang that “that woman, Miss Lewinski” had to endure!
I am will to wager that Chelsea DID NOT volunteer to assist in the Clintons PERSONAL AMBITIONS for a THIRD TERM!
That is why her unenthusiastic politicking seems like she is being ‘pimped’. The Clintons are desperate as their fortunes begin to drift away!
No more debasing of the Oval Office by the Clintons.
The Clintons may ONCE destroy their White House legacy, deny Al Gore and ENABLED THE BUSH-WHACKING OF AMERICA!
Never again, the Clintons!
ABCD: Anybody But Clinton Dynasty!

I thought Mrs. Rodham Clinton was running for President. Hillary sounds like she is running for Queen, and plans on using the White House fence to place the trophy heads of her opposition.

Is incredible that even the biased press and the Obama Cult members tried to distort the incidents to continue making their case against Hillary…
unbelievable!

Jose,
If this were simply the first time this happened right before an election, I would agree with you that the opposition was being unfair to Hillary.
But how often do these little incidents have to happen with such perfect timing before you see a pattern of manipulation emerge?
You don’t think Hillary is smart enough to know exactly what she is doing? Yes, she is defending her daughter but the level of her outrage is out of proportion to the event. She has made it a political firestorm because she can take advantage of this.
This has nothing at all to do with Obama or any other candidate. It has to do with the mindset of this woman.
I am a woman of certain age and a mother. I would of course be upset if someone said something foul about either of my daughters. I have read and reread the comment and honestly cannot figure out why this has become such an issue. This was a misappropriation of a term–nothing more–and to make it into something more grand or more sinister is ridiculous.

Kira,
If someone had insulted your child on NATIONAL TV (not just in front of a crowd of 2 or 3) I would hope that you would be outraged.
If not, that speaks volumes about you as a parent.
Is Clinton using this to her advantage? I’m not convinced she is. I genuinely think they protect their daughter, and have always done so.
That being said, if somehow it were discovered this was a part of their strategy, it wouldn’t surprise me either. That’s just the nature of politics, politics that Obama as well exploits (though, of course, no one ever reports).

Unfortunatley the media no longer reports the news. They believe their personal prefference are the news. I have noticed this lashing out against Hillary by many of those who should be reporting the news instead of trying to make it. I’m starting to believe this may actually be the attitude of the networks to support Obama. Whenever the Clinton’s say anything that involves an african american, the media twist it into something they did not say. There was the supposed ” racial” comment by President Clinton about Obama taking the SC vote because he was black, just like Jesse Jackson did, which is the truth. Well guess what every night I hear news commentators saying the exact same thing, Obama is getiing the black vote, but no one calls them racist. Why is that?? Then there was Hillary making the observation that Martin Luther King’s dream required President Johnson bringing it to fruition. The media tried to turn it into something on the lines only a white man can get things done. She never said or implied that. What she accuratley observed was that it takes politicians to bring about laws. There was nothing racial about it. Then there are the commentators during the debates trying to get Hillary to start an argument with Obama such as was seen on CNN. If this continues I believe the FCC should step in and pull the networks licenses for their partial support of one candidate over another.

Jeremy,
I am 19 years old. I don’t have kids. I do, however, have a general idea how I want to be treated as a woman, and I do have an idea when a word used commonly by my generation is misunderstood by an older generation. That seems to be exactly what has happened in this instance, and all the people on this forum who are trying to instill more weight into the word than it currently carries simply don’t understand my generation.
And I do understand the patterns of behavior that the Clintons are displaying as being about a whole lot more than protecting a 28 year old woman who should be able to defend herself.
Here’s the deal: Hillary can be upset about the comment; that is her right as a parent.
But she is also a national candidate for the highest office in the land and running, supposedly, a gender neutral race–until she falls behind in the polls or in primaries and then suddenly the gender card is back in play. For her to abuse her position to twist this into a platform is wrong, and it does disservice to women everywhere who have fought for equality.
For her to make the sort of demands she has made is wrong. She is a public figure and when she allowed her daughter to be her surrogate, Chelsea became a public figure.
I think the older generation need to chill a bit. The term isn’t bad as we use it and isn’t a huge insult. The Clintons have overreacted and dragged a lot of their supporters along with them. That is a shame.

Yes David Shuster should be fired. All candidates have family members helping in their campaigns. But nothing like this has been said about any of the other candidates. Mr. Shuster’s comments were him using his position to show favoritism toward Obama and try to get viewers to think the same. I also believe Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill Oreilly and the rest of those partial newscasters should also be fired. It is not the news’ job to tell us what to think.

Wow! This is unbelievable…especially when I consider all the names I was called growing up. The difference here is that Hillary is a candidate for president of the United States…and she takes such an offense like this? Even after the guy apologizes no less. Sure, the remark was out of bounds and outrageous…but give me a break. This is simply a political ploy, and nothing more. Just play the “woman is victim card” for all it’s worth. I just can’t wait to see how she will use the power of the United States to show her disgust if/when she is called another name as president, you think?

I’m a republican and guess what…Hillary is right.
So let me understand this, Imus loses his job when he says “nappy headed hos”, but David Shuster gets to keep his when he says “pimped-out” describing Chelsea’s work for her parents. I’ll try to figure that one out when I have a lot more time on my hands, cause I’ll need it.

The public apology looked “real” enough for me! We can’t take offense to, or start censoring everything our newscasters say! My gosh, people! This is politics in America! If you “can’t stand the heat…”!

Kira
you obviuosly have no idea what your talking about. If a negative, untrue comment like that was made about my child on national tv, I would be doing the same and more.

Kira,
Hillary just lodged the complain and let MSNBC and law take it course. We are making it big and more we discuss about it more the false illusion of Hillary doing it will created. So, less you discuss about it more you will be focussed on issue.

Aaron,
The only reason I don’t know what I’m talking about is because I don’t agree with you. That is the same approach to life that I see Hillary Clinton taking in this instance: if the news media does something I do not like, I will make life miserable for them. I don’t want a petty dictator in the WH. We already have one.
I am appalled by the senior generations eagerness to restrict freedom of speech–when it suits them.

The Shuster remarks were extremely offensive. What makes it worse is that Shuster and Carlosn and Matthews and Scarborouogh have all used offensive, sexist remarks against the Clinton campaign for months.
Should Shuster be fired? If Hillary and Chelsea were black, he would have been fired on the spot.
Anyone has a right to complain about what is said on the airwaves – that’s not an infringement of free speech. Only the government’s interference can be an abuse of the First Amendemnt.
MSNBC hasbeen shilling for Obama for months. The only regular who tries to be fair is Dan Abrams.

Perhaps she doesn’t want him fired, but she wants stricter enforcement of rules of civility toward public figures like herself. The media should also be careful to stop overdoing doing things that show hatred to her.

This issue has nothing to do with political affiliation and a lot to do with the gender issue. There is nothing wrong in having Chelsea campaign for her mother. She is a young woman capable of making her own decisions and she is born into a politically active family. It is very much like children getting involved in their family business, or help with household chores. Shuster displayed very poor judgement in his choice of words as he expressed his biased views about the role of mothers and daughters in the political world dominated by males. Shuster has the right to express his thoughts, and Hillary Clinton has every right to respond and communicate her perspective. If indeed this incident gave Clinton another “women’s power” boost, then, thank you to people like Shuster who created the situation. His apology fell short because he remained arrogant.

I find it frightening how many people are for censoring the press. That’s always turned out great in the past.

remember what happened to imas,if the same was said about obama,this guy would be out of a job.

Hilliary has ever right to be upset, it the aplogy was given in true regrett it would be one thing, but it was not. It was given because he wants his job and that is the only reason, he is not sorry for what he said. Yes the younger people throw words out as verbs that are ugly words as though they are nothing, and that is part of the disrespect of women that has been going on for the last 10 years. Obama would have gone nuts if his wife or daughters were talked about that way, don’t think he wouldn’t just because young people are so crazy about him, he is a respectabe man. Chelsea is working with her Mom, any daughter her age would love to be doing this with their Mom, so stop slaming Hilliary for having a daughter who loves her Mom and wants to have this experince, who wouldn’t want to help their Mom become president.

name-calling is what politics and political commentating is all about, and always has been. the fact that this issue is getting so much attention is silly. this guy shuster is just a small part of it and to fire him for saying “pimping” is ridiculous. this is a small transgression, equalled and exceeded on a daily basis by bill o’rielly and nancy grace. it’s a circus and if chelsea wants to get in the ring she shouldn’t expect anything less. clinton and her supporters need to rise above and move on.

lori…this is ridiculous, it was a slang term kids use all the time for all kinds of things.” LORI, THIS WASN’T A KID USING THIS LANGUAGE, IT WAS A TV NEWS PERSON. AND, MY CHILDREN DO NOT USE THE TERM “PIMP”, “PIMPED OUT” OR ANY OTHER VARIATION. A PIMP IS A PIMP, PERIOD. AND THE OTHERS HERE ARE CORRECT. IF ANYONE HAD SAID OBAMA WAS PIMPING OUT HIS WIFE FOR HIS POLITICAL GAINS, WE WOULD BE HAVING RIOTS!

Shuster should be ashame and Chris Matthews too,MSNBC has been pattern of being harsh to the Clintons

… and, if Mrs. Clinton is so upset by uncivil behavior of the only one US press outlet during the primaries – just wait when general elections start. Hillary is such a polarizing figure of the 2008 campaign – and, probably, in the whole D.C. – that remarks from all other outlets will become a chorus… So, i next time we’ll be discussing her husband’s extramarital affairs – in details – on the national TV will shut down all the TV stations?…

why is it NO ONE has piled on Oboma the way they have on Hillary? why are the “guys” at (can’t class you as the press)msnbc act like nasty Jr. high school jerks? For gosh sakes grow up & try to conduct your self like the ABC press. Try to come up to their level.what is it about you guys-you don’t like smart strong women? just for once i would like to see the press act like real news men & not stoop to the tabloid’s- by calling women degrading names & talk about her husband messing around. My god -he lied about sex-Bush has lied about the war that has killed or crippled our best & the brightest young people. I would dare any of you to
make a few remarks like this garbage about Oboma- he has you guys right where he wants you. You can’t say anything bad -because the he & everyone would call you a racist !! I don’t ask for favors-just FAIRNESS-try it some tme!

I am so sick of the media and their polarizing effect. They talk about how polarizing Hillary is, but quite on the contrary. They have been setting her up to fall for a while now. I am sick of this media. A bunch of self, righteous conservatives that have no idea what true morality is. they preach about it, but they are so corrupted. Obama is a show pony that they are pushing, with no substance. Hillary will kick everyones butt even with all the conservatives in the media still trying to hold her down. Stop trying to brainwash this country. Unfortunately, so many people obviously can’t see what is happening and are falling in blindly, next thing you know, we will have another war hungry, republican president. We might as well hang a bankrupt sign on our country and start immigrating to Canada or England.

Imagine, this outrageaus comment was made about Obama. For good reason the word ‘racism’ would be all over the place. But calling Hillary Clinton a ‘pimp’ and her daughter basically a ‘w.’ seems to be just okay.
One more story for the press: ‘Shame on you!’
Go Hillary! Show those sexists what you are made of!

I didn’t really understand the comment when I saw it on TV and I certainly don’t understand why it’s so offensive to the Clinton campaign. I think they’re trying to get some sympathy votes or something.

Of course ‘freedom for the press’ is one of the pillars of democracy. But MSNBC should rethink if they really want to encourage this kind of offensive and outrageous language and this kind of sexism. If they are serious about equal rights (another pillar of democracy) they should fire Shuster now, and please grow up, you are out of kindergarten, boys!

I’m sure Mr. Shuster regrets making the comment, but he and the rest of the MSNBC crew (Chris Matthews especially)need to think before they speak. I usually tend to admire David Shuster’s reporting, and certainly do not want to see him fired. As to Bush not responding strongly in public to “Rathergate”, that was because he knew that Rather’s story was factual.

Well if you don’t want Chelsea referered to as pimping for you. Than don’t put her on the streets to pimp for you. Like wise Bill.

All of those people working for MSNBC should go back to school to learn some manners. they should learn to respect a young lady. The way they are conducting themselvs tells me that they are not educated to be on the news. Stop your name calling and look at yourself before you start talking about another person. You should look in the mirror first and throw the first stone if you are not a sinner.

Quite frankly, this did it for me! I used to love MSNBC but since the fiasco with Don Imus, Scarborought’s put downs of Miika, allowing Chris Mathews biased commentaries and now this!..I’m done with it. I’m going to stick with C-span and Jim Lehrer Hr. for news..I can listen, interpret for myself rather than a pundit’s biased interpreation.

I remember from years ago that salome had asked for the head of John the Baptist on a platter and of course it was delivered as requested. Is this what Hillary wants? God, how blood thirsty can a woman be.

I seem to remember a time just before the presidential race started in which Hillary’s campaign was shutting the media out and giving very little access to her to such an extent that it appeared that she was just openly hostile to the media. Now she’s asking the same media to bow to her demands?

1.) Interpretations aside, where in the letter did she ask for Shuster to be fired? There are tons of interpretations you can take out of the letter, requesting he be fired is one, taking him off the campaign trail is another, re-assignig him to another position until the election ends is another. Of course though, Tapp the Hack interprets the most unflattering for HRC.
2.) If he were fired it would be becasue Capus wanted to send a message that the other purveyors of misoginistic comments must stop and this was the straw that broke the camels back. Capus may figure that Spit Muchews is the biggest offender but the language used by Shuster and the fact that he is a hack reporter for a show that has almost run its course gives him a good out to send a message and posisbly get in the good graces of the next president.
3.) Of course it was half hearted. He should have apologized for being a pitiful journalist as well. There is absolutely nothing unseemly about the 30 year old daughter of the former president of the and possible future president to lobby Super Delegates on behalf of her mother. So, not only was the language he used inappropriate, the premise of his thought was utterly stupid and politcally naive. Maybe he shouldn’t be covering elections. Hell, Romney’s boys didn’t go to war becasue they were trying to help diddy get elected. How did that work for them and their inheritance? Was it unseemly for them to go out and campaign on behalf of their dad? He really was pimping them out, “Just think of all the money we lose boys if daddy’s investment doesn’t pay off in 2008 and I have to do it all over again in 2008″? Maybe Shuster can go write that book.
4.) Everything every politician does is to galvanize their base and get them to the polls. Tap the Hack portrays Clinton as Count Calcula in a league of her own when John McCain is the biggest out-right bamboozler of the press corps and the voters in this race. Check out Matt Welch’s McCain “The Myth of a Maverick” for many of McCain’s passes from the media. Mavericks aside, HRC sent this letter in the hopes that they may tone down their anti-everything Clinton bias and possibly put a hold on the swoon they have for Obama. She may have trouble with the latter but lets hope she makes some headway on the former.

YOU DON”T GET IT!!!
Shuster need to be FIRED and that is my right to say and go after GE advertizers for the blantant sexism being promoted on MSNBC.
Keep it up…the media serves us and since women is over 50% and a prime target base of advertisers that take our money to pay for those over blown arrongant windbags on MESSNBC.
It’s too bad you don’t like how parents responds when they get mad and want this jerk FIRED and the rest put on notice that we are watching you and the next time this happen…you are gone too.
I don’t give a rat azz about Shuster career…he’s a sexist jerk and deserve what is coming to him.
My daughter means more to me and when she ask questions about why the men are so nasty, I say don’t worry they won’t be on TV anymore.

I’m a female and support the Obama campaign. I do agree with Senator Clinton the word was inappropriate. I do agree MSNBC has taken the necessary action in this case. However, for every action it’s not necessary for a reaction. It really shows Hillary is in a desperate state at the moment. She is so focused on this non-sense while Obama campaign is kicking her butt. So, if I was her adviser, I would suggest to her — to focus on the bigger picture (win the election). If Hillary loses the nominee, it is possible she will come back after MSNBC. So, be prepared for the Clintons, they will say anything and do anything!

First Clinton has all the right to get mad, NBC is totally wrong!
They openly support Obama, thus tilting the news for him, hey was not one of there reporters caught on tape saying such!
yes the word was not used in the meaning it normally is but used to describe marketing but again leave the daughter out of attacks,
Though if Chelsea is campaigning she should answer questions pertaining to the campaign by reporters and especially if they are 9 years old.
Now to show you hypocrisy, if the reporter said that about a republicans daughter, the reporter would be given a promotion!