By Nitya

Feb 12, 2008 8:44am

Hillary on the Offensive

So what will these next three weeks look like, until we hit the March 4 primaries in Ohio and Texas where Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, is looking for a win?

They could get pretty tough, if last night’s candidate interviews on WJLA, ABC’s Washington DC affiliate, are any guide.

You can watch them in full HERE. Or you can see our Good Morning America report from this a.m. on the interviews HERE.

"I have been vetted, I have been through this," she said. "I understand exactly what is coming at me….I don’t think we can say that about my opponent."

She added, "somebody told me that Sen. Obama has never had a negative ad run against him. Well, get ready because if he is elected the nominee we will see a lot of that."

(Of course, Clinton herself ran a negative ad against Obama in South Carolina. A negative radio ad. Remember?)

Clinton also went after Obama on some watered-down legislation, saying he "has some questions to answer about his dealings with one of his largest contributors, Excellon, a big nuclear power company. Apparently he cut some deals behind closed doors to protect them from full disclosure in the nuclear industry."

(There’s more on that controversy HERE, though it’s worth pointing out that Clinton co-sponsored and supported the bill she’s hammering Obama for having corrupted on behalf of his donors.)

Saying the media is unfair, she invoked Rezko yet again, saying she wouldn’t release her tax returns until and unless she’s the nominee. "Our financial situation has been more investigated than anyone who’s ever been in public life in America. We still don’t have a lot of answers about Senator Obama and his dealings with Mr. Reckon." So I don’t have a problem with it, but it’s only fair we have questions going to the other side as well and I don’t see that happening."

She implied he had empty rhetoric. "You never hear the specifics," she said, "it’s all this abstract general talk about how we need to get along."

She called him weak on health care. "Universal health care is a fight worth having," she asserted. "Senator Obama has decided it isn’t. He won’t present a plan for universal healthcare, it’s a big difference between he and I."

Obama in his interview was more restrained, though he did take a moment to push back on the idea that he hasn’t been vetted — and compared the Clinton machine to the proverbial Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

"The notion that somehow the Clintons have coddled me and the Republicans are these big, bad folks who have different operation than the Clintons do, I think is just not the case," he said.

What say you?

- jpt

User Comments

One thing I have to admire is the fact that this lady is a fighter no matter what is throw at her she is still going at it, at least you have to give her that.

Posted by: SJ | February 12, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am

Seems as if most democrats don’t care anymore that is a fact, no matter how I turn it I cant vote for Obama if he is selected to me it just does not feel right, am not moved by the talk or the image, I need something more than that, so when it is all said and done the only saving grace out of this entire mess is now to give my vote to McCain.

Posted by: SJ | February 12, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am

Just saw your piece on Good Morning America (identical to your entry above). Not surprisingly, having followed your, ahem, journalistic career, you dealt from the bottom of the deck when comparing your treatment of Clinton’s assertions vs Obama.
You state that Clinton said that Obama HIMSELF has said he’s not received negative ads, but then you added, “Clinton herself made a negative radio ad…”. How is this contradictory?
Next, Clinton asserts that Obama watered down nuclear regulatory legislation. But you retort, “Clinton voted for the same legislation”. So what??? What the hell does that have to do with whether Obama helped “water down” this specific legislation.
Then, I watched very intently to see Tapper do the tango with Obama’s statements or illusions. Neither Michelle, nor Barack, were subject to any rebounds from Tapper. Obama says he’s been attacked by the “Clinton machine” so therefore, he’s been vetted. Shouldn’t Tapper here have stated, “but Obama is obviously being disingenous knowing full well that the republican (with the mainstream medias assistance-my bad) PR machine will attack him mecilessly”.
Never saw it.

Posted by: eric gumpricht | February 12, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am

The more desperate Sen. Clinton’s rhetoric becomes, the more shrill she will sound to voters who are still trying to decide for whom to vote. Ultimately, she hurts her own cause.
Moreover, if she demands fiscal transparency from Sen. Obama by having him “come clean” in his dealings with Tony Rezko and Exelon Corporation, she too must be prepared to offer it by making her tax returns public. She cannot rely on the “vast, right-wing” conspiracy excuse over and over again without seeming to sound like her blustering husband.
Finally, Sen. Clinton’s assertion that, because she’s “been through this” process of running for office, she deserves people’s votes is about the lamest, weakest argument I’ve ever heard from a candidate. Vote for me because I’ve run for public office before and I’ve withstood the scandals and all the mud that was thrown? Harold Stassen did the same and look where it got him!

Posted by: chuck | February 12, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am

I am a partisan of neither Sen Clinton nor Sen Obama at this time. It seems to me that both candidates have been put through the ringer and had metaphorical mud thrown at them. True, Sen Clinton has had more mud thrown at her– only because she’s been in the public eye longer. Both candidates realize that their opposite number on the Republican side- supported by his machine- will throw up everything they think they can make stick. I’m pretty sure that either Mrs. Clinton or Mr. Obama will be able to withstand the onslaught of whatever the Republican party can throw at them.

Posted by: Katherine | February 12, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

I really think that Senator Clinton owes it to the voters to show her TAX RETURNS!!! Democratic voters should take nothing less than god honest truth from either of their candidates.

Posted by: A Cunningham | February 12, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

I find it ironic that Sen.Clinton spends so much time trying to tie Obama to Rezko when she won’t even release her tax returns. Obama has released his returns… we know where he gets his money, we know its not from Rezko. What we don’t know is how she is funded… ???
I’m not very religious, but I was raised a Baptist and I remember this verse very well… and oh how relevant it is.
Matthew 7:3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in someone else’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?”

Posted by: Blake | February 12, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am

Eric G.:
You said: “You state that Clinton said that Obama HIMSELF has said he’s not received negative ads, but then you added, “Clinton herself made a negative radio ad…”. How is this contradictory?”
I’m afraid you’re wrong on two points:
1) Read the article again, she says “SOMEBODY told me that Sen. Obama has never had a negative ad run against him.” This is very different than “Obama HIMSELF has said…” as you state above.
2) By repeating it, Clinton is naturally stating it as fact (just imagine if she had said “somebody told me Obama is a radical Muslim,” or something…). Since she HERSELF ran the negative ads, she obviously knows that this is a lie.

Posted by: Sam | February 12, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am

Hillary is asked why she does not want to release here tax retuern.
The strikingly different headlines by ABC, CBS, and NBC, out of Hillary’s response says which one is which way linenant.
ABC’s hedaline focused on question of Obama’s financial dealigs which Hillary raised while refusing to release her tax return eventhough Barak released his return…. ABC for Hillary no matter what.
CBS stated the fact as it happened, the question and the answer.
NBC’s didn’t have any real hedaline about it…playing safe after Clintons cried out louder than it should about a gaffe by Shuster… INTRESTINGLY this issue was brough forefront by none other than ABC to help Clinton have the platform to cry cry cry… Is STEPHANOPOLIS paying back for his years in Clinton’s campaing and adminstration?

Posted by: moeen | February 12, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am

In case Mr. Obama wins the nomination, you will see the Republican machinery going hammer and tongs about his paternal relationships and all the republicans which he hopes to bring on his side would maintain a safe distance from him. It will be totally different ball game in the main elections.

Posted by: PJ | February 12, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am

Over the last several days I’ve heard Clinton and her surrogates say that Obama’s Healthcare plan isn’t universal. That is once again another one of Clinton’s lies and distortions. Both of their plans cover every one that wants coverage. They both make it affordable with subsidies. The difference is that Hillary mandates it for everyone and if you decide you don’t want it, you don’t have a choice. Either your wages will be garnished to pay for it or you will be fined (as it is in MA). Obama actually spent time analyzing the issue and found that people will buy it if it’s affordable. He does not penalize people who don’t want it. He realizes that young people (under 25 year olds) are the ones most likely to not want to buy it because they make less money and are generally healthy). His plan allows 25 year olds and younger to be covered by their parents plan. His plan also mandates coverage for all children. When the 2 plans are compared the Obama plan provides just as much coverage with a lot more common sense.

Posted by: Janet | February 12, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

I watched last night’s interviews on WJLA news here in the DC area. Both candidates were polished and poised for their questions. The beginning of Sen. Clinton’s interview mentioned that Sen. Obama selected not to have a debate or side-by-side discussion. Instead the public was offered a chance to see the candidates answer questions from two journalists.
I watched with roommates (actual undecided voters, if you can believe it). We were all struck by the poise and clarity of Sen. Clinton’s answers and how tough her questions seemed to be. Likewise, we were not really surprised that Sen. Obama’s questions were more gentle and yet the answers were still evasive.
I found Sen. Clinton neither shrill or desperate in her responses, rather thoughtful, warm, and “presidential.” Sen. Obama, too, had a “presidential” tone yet I do not understand why he will not answer in specifics. My undecided vote was determined watching last night and I proudly voted this morning.

Posted by: tired dem | February 12, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am

Change the article headline. Drop “on the” and replace with “is”.

Posted by: Obamite | February 12, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am

Obama is an amazing speaker and he probably can motivate the nation to do many things… if elected. But what the Clintons are throwing at him is nothing! The Republican machine is big and bad. Here this negative ad coming from John McCain, “While I was serving my country is a POW in Hotel Hanoi, you were snorting cocaine in backstreet Chicago!” So what if it was 20-30 or 40 years ago. Then there’s Rezko and the flip-flops and present votes compared to the integrity of John McCain. I am horrified at the likelihood of Obama being a do-gooder in the style and utter ignorance of Jimmy Carter. I think Obama would make a great spokesman for the white house, but he is no way ready. Oh, yes, and they he was talking about invading Pakistan, a nuclear Islamic state. Ya, sure.

Posted by: gerry | February 12, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am

Ah Hill – your desperation is showing. Why didn’t you mention your affiliation with Rezko? There are photos out there you know…
I can see when her campaign is failing she goes on the negative…so much for her claims of avoiding the politics of personal destruction. I guess rule #2 still holds, never trust a Clinton.

Posted by: Julie | February 12, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

That’s right take the high road and let Hillary wallow in the filth she is so accustomed to.

Posted by: Patriot2008 | February 12, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am

Look President Bush gave a clear look at what Obama is up against in one sentence. Obama said he would invade PAkistan and endorsed Ahmadinajad.
Obama can justify and say that’s not what I meant or that’s not what I said, which he always does, but that’s what he’s up against from Republicans and a whole lot more. Green politicians make lots of mistakes. Obama will disintegrateunder real scrutiny, not to metion he doesn’t have the support of many democratic states and thinks he can win the white house after disenfranchising Michigan and Florida.

Posted by: s.b. | February 12, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am

Terrorism is not a state… it is a state of mind. Persuasion is the only strategy. In this war… words do matter!

Posted by: Obama Republican | February 12, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am

As someone who is an Independent, I felt as though Senator Clinton was both well poised, consistent with her message, and clearly as she stated will be ready on “day one”. It is amazing to me that the national media has taken it upon themselves in terms of candidate coverage, to dictate who the Democratic nominee should be. In my mind, it could not be any clearer that we need someone with the background and experience that Senator Clinton brings to the table. I like Barak Obama, but I think I would love him in 8 more years. I just don’t see how he is running a campaign on a record that he just does not have. He just doesn’t! I think his base consisting of mostly college voters, think that it is cool to go against the machine. They fail to realize that after the honeymoon, there is much work to be done. We are at such a critical period in this nations history that I don’t know that a vote for Obama is worth that risk. Let’s remember that although he speaks very well, words do not always translate in action. IMHO

Posted by: Michael Merenstein | February 12, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am

Clinton Vs. Candidate! More Democratic candidate distractions!. Clinton and Obama should be directing their attention on properly informing the voters on issue positions; but instead, they are taking on another attack series against their opponent. This strategy is garbage, and the news media is buying into it. Voters want the exact, specific, detailed answers to their issue positions – instead , we get more non issues. Are Dems. avoiding issues because their positions are failures and do not reflect the majority of voters beliefs? I believe so! Thus, since all the Republican candidates are addressing the issues, and you may locate their positions on their web sites and speeches, they are doing a better job on informing voters.
Therefore, since they more closely represent my views, they will get my support and vote. Come on voters, insist on plain english information, details on all the issues, and cast an educated vote. Monty Ousley Weddell, TX

Posted by: MOWeddell | February 12, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am

Hillary for grammar school? Isn’t it “between him and me” and Not “between he and I?”

Posted by: J | February 12, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am

I am the “flip flopper” who would vote for Obama over McCain then flip and vote for McCain over Clinton.
There are policies which Obama supports that hurt my sensibilities. As a father I fell in love with my son long before his birth. I would give my life over his. Sorry, just can’t help feeling that way.
But I also know that Barack was 100% right on the Iraq war. As a hunter I know what guns can and can’t accomplish. Terrorism is a spiritual (not religious) war. We must win the hearts of the hopeless.
The rhetoric of evil enemy is misguided. We can’t fight our way to victory. As much as Bush/McCain use Germany and Korea as their guiding examples… they are simply wrong. Terrorism is not a state… it is a state of mind. Persuasion is the only strategy. In this war… words do matter!
Hillary and McCain don’t get it. I don’t fault them. They are just politicians.
McCain is an American hero. I deeply respect his service. If the Soviet Union attacks us I hope to God we call on him for guidance (and I am sure he’d be there). But they won’t because there is no “Soviet Union”.
Hillary and Bill do know how to manage. And they certainly thrive on politics. It is the “fun part” for them.
However, terrorism is emotional. Words are sacred. You don’t blow yourself up as a technical matter. You don’t memorize the sacred text for fun.
Obama has shown the capacity for understanding the human spirit. Might sound simple and even ridiculous, but in reality it is the highest level of leadership. He is our greatest hope to alter the internal dialog of the hopeless. And that is where this battle plays out.

Posted by: Obama Republican | February 12, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am

Why won’t Hillary release her tax returns? What is she hiding?
-jonah

Posted by: jonah | February 12, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

Her fighting is becoming irresponsibility into dragging the whole country into this cheap Jerry Springer Democratic show. She started it all, so undignified. Really pathetic!

Posted by: carmen | February 12, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am

hillary…what a moron!!!

Posted by: Rick K | February 12, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

If Hillary is a born fighter, then why is she having such a hard time even getting the nomination? She had EVERY advantage and she and her husband have driven away many millions of voters. All she knows how to do is throw out claims against other people, all while playing the victim if anyone ever criticizes her. Is this really the best the Democrats can come up with? Her “I’m a woman vote for me!/Media BAD/I’m tough because I say so…when I’m not complaining about the media or sexism” campaign? Good luck getting people to vote for that. And how about her claims in a recent interview that her husband won few caucuses (which is not true) and that caucusgoers don’t “represent” the electorate?

Posted by: Carl | February 12, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Obama Republican. I really appreciate your comments and respect for Senator Obama. But let’s remember that although he voted against the war in Iraq, he also voted for EVERY penny of funding for this war that GW has proposed. Lets remember, that of 180 votes in the senate, he missed (claimed present) 153 of those votes on such things as abortion rights, health care, etc… You can Google those or go to factcheck.org for more drilled down information. My point is that the Presidency is bigger then just that one issue. I to have a family member (my brother) who has served and has still be in the active military for 25 years. Just a friendly though and comment. =)

Posted by: Michael Merenstein | February 12, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

To call a radio ad negative, when all it did was play back Obama’s praises of the Reagan era (out of context, of course), is laughable. Obama has NEVER seen a negative ad. Has he been accused of murder or drug running, as the Clintons were? Has he, like John Kerry, had an entire book written about him, lying about a central facet of his life? Obviously not. But, this is what he will face in a general election. Hillary is right. We have no idea what Obama will do when they actually come after him. My guess is he will sit on his mountaintop, leading a chorus of Kumbaya, while McCain guts him like a fish.
Funny thing about Democrats. We like our politicians to seem like preachers or professors. Once they start acting like politicians we toss them out. The problem is, only politicians have what it takes to win.

Posted by: David H | February 12, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

I’m a 70 year old white Republican woman and if Obama is the nominee he has my vote. Otherwise my vote goes to McCain. 4 more years of the Clintons especially former Pres. Clinton absolutely turns my stomach.

Posted by: carol wise | February 12, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

Obama Republican- comment #1-
Your explanation hits the nail on the head. Could not have said it better myself.
Obama Independent

Posted by: Sally | February 12, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

I don’t always agree with everything that President Bush has said in the past but he is right on the money with his take on Obama. People now seem to be bashing the President for saying that he does not know what Obama believes in, but Obama did say he was for going into Pakistan, and he also said that he wanted to have a Muslim Summit if he gets to be President meeting with all the leaders and that included Iran. So President Bush is correct in all aspect of exactly wondering what Obama’s real intentions are if he was elected President of the USA.

Posted by: SJ | February 12, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

The Hillary Clinton campaign has been a huge let down. I was a supporter of Bill Clinton and I believe his administration
accomplished many things. I can`t help but think his legacy will be weakened by the way this campaign has been waged. This whole thing brings to mind a retired athlete nearing the end of their career.
How do they approach it?. Do they “go out on top” , admit its time for some new blood ? or do they succumb to the temptation to do it one more time ?
Do they go down in defeat,bitterness, and sadness ?, or, do they walk off the court with a three pointer and a win with a great celebration ?
I think that Hillary is desperate to make mounds out of molehills. Raising Rezco and the other non issues only makes her appear closer to the retirement party without the ring.

Posted by: Davide | February 12, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am

Who cares anymore. Republicans have already made fools out of them selves for almost 8 years now. Is McCain the best they can do.
VOTE DEMOCRAT

Posted by: dumber bell | February 12, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am

Hillary Clinton has lied her way into politics. It’s the only tool she has available.
Yet it’s worse (to me) that there are voters out there that will believe everything she’s says.
When just a small amount of time on the internet could provide her supporters with the facts on these campaigns – They behave like little kids with their hands over their ears yelling, “NOT LISTENING NOT LISTENING”.
Damnit people, the Bill Clinton wrote the Patriot Act. They screwed up the Medicare system. Their funding comes from people like Rupert Murdoch, weapons manufacturers and the Chinese government.
WAKE UP!!

Posted by: Joseph | February 12, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am

It is amazing to me the people that are posting such mean and hateful post’s here about any of the candidates. I have always been raised that, that usually indicates a lack of education or knowledge of the subject matter. These post’s are suppose to be about debating the issues and fact, not about personal attacks. Sounds like a Republican attack machine if you ask me and do we really want to lower ourselves to that position? I mean really. Come on folks!

Posted by: Michael Merenstein | February 12, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

Vote against the war -

Posted by: Mitchel | February 12, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am

Got to agree with Michael M – ask yourselves why the media, who has been lobbing softballs at the Bush/Cheney machine for 8 years, is all for Barack Obama, and won’t give Hillary a break? She really is the most vetted, investigated, picked upon figure in public life, and has been literally for decades. She responds with poise and passion. So why do The Powers That Be favor Mr. Obama over Mrs. Clinton?
The more I listen to Obama’s rhetoric, the more he becomes just a politician who’s very good at speaking beautiful words. Meanwhile it would work well for the cut-throat, hard-core, pander- to-the-racists crowd if he were the nominee, wouldn’t it? It’s pretty much the only chance the Republicans have for retaining the White House.
Think for yourselves! Obama will make a fantastic vice president… and some day, with experience and a track record, a great president, too.

Posted by: Clinton Supporter | February 12, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

If Sen. Clinton’s can not organize enough to win the most delegates in any state caucus how can she organize enough to run a government. She is given plenty of slack by her supporters because she is a woman and is strong on woman’s issues. It is only that she is a woman and wife of the former president that she has any chance. That is not a sound base of support for running a government.
Those who get angry at me for being sexist are rabid sexists themselves.

Posted by: Ron M | February 12, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

The media are high on Obama-nirvana. However, one can be sure that pundits such as Chris Matthews will join the McCain camp for the general election (yes, Chris admitted to having voted for Bush__which hardly qualifies him as a progressive.) MSNBC has been bashing Clinton so badly that Buchanan seems to be her only sympathetic voice within the organization. Obama has gotten a free ride from the media (have you listened to Air America lately?) He is being elected by a large portion of African-American voters and young, unreliable voters, in smaller states. Once the general election is held, Obama will be a front-runner, picked by a racial minority, with no experience other than state senator. In other words, ripe for the Republican negative campaign (remember Karl Rove kids?)
What’s going on is a travesty. Hillary is being bashed for pathological reasons. I’m sorry I voted for Obama (I did because of his stance on the war.) Nevertheless, a loss to the Republicans in November does not seem that far off track. The media are trying to relive the 60′s, and they are going to mess it up for everyone again. They cannot be trusted. Remember Iraq?

Posted by: democub | February 12, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

Michael M….your facts are taken out of context or wrong. Hillary and Obama voted the same in the US Senate 93% of the time. He voted 16 times less than her. His “present” votes were in the Illinois Senate. These votes as described by those in the Illinois legislature are considered a “no vote with an explanation”. The “present” votes on choice were part of a strategy Planned Parenthood came up with to stop an anti-choice bill from being passed. Please do not spread lies and distortions. If you don’t like Obama that’s fine, spreading lies about him and his record is not.

Posted by: Janet | February 12, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am

If Rezko was the worst the Clinton machine could dig up on Obama, I’d sy his pretty safe to put up against the GOP.

Posted by: Don Slowik | February 12, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

I AM A STAUNCH DEM. WHO HAPPENS TO BE WELL EDUCATED. THE UNFAIR TREATMENT AGAINST SEN. CLINTON IS DESPICABLE. SOME HOW OBAMA HAS MANAGED TO DIVERT ANY NEGATIVE LIGHT AWAY FROM HIMSELF. HOWEVER, IT’S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME TILL HIS RUSE IS UNCOVERED.
IF OBAMA IS THE CANDIDATE, I WILL VOTE REPUBLICAN FOR THE 1st TIME IN MY LIFE. SOMETHING ABOUT THAT GUY I JUST DON’T TRUST…

Posted by: laura S | February 12, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

Republicans can try all of their dirty tricks but their candidate will e run over by the movement for Change. They have lost their most potent issue —Immigration–by electing McCain. THey will see a turn out like they have never seen before. Obama will unify Dems and Hispanics and African Americans will come out in droves.
The conservative base will have a hard time dragging voters out to support McCain who stood against most of its interest.
National security? the 100 years comment sunk that issue for McCain.
On the other hand, Hillary will energize the conservative base, will have difficuty getting Obama’s supporters (like myself who vowed no to support her after she played Rove-like politicsin NH), she will not have the support of African Americans–if she gets the nomination, it would be because she is coronated by party loyalists and that will alienate many–and cannot challenge McCain on the war in Iraq.
Finally, in experience v. change, change always wins. Remember Lincoln, JFK, Roosevelt, Bill Clinton, etc.
Obama is the clear choice.

Posted by: Jane Smoot | February 12, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am

Hillary IS trully a Jerry Springer Basket Case!!! Oh My Dear Lord! Make it Stop!

Posted by: AJ in DC | February 12, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

No more scandals… that I know of. [Bill - Who is your new intern friend?]

Posted by: Chris Fischahs | February 12, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

The scandal of Bill Clinton seems like small potatoes compared to the Bush blunder of invading a sovereign nation under false pretenses.
I think it’s perfectly reasonable to expect people to buy insurance if they can afford it. It can be made more affordable. Healthcare for profit is one thing to review. Most states have laws requiring people to have automobile insurance and there are penalties if they don’t. The key is there should be oversight of what they charge. There should be oversight of what automobile insurance companies charge and why they charge those rates. Anytime you require by law something there should be mandatory regulation or oversight. Credit card companies lobbied to pass the 2005 bankruptcy law but they charge outrageous rates and try to find ways to charge late payments such as moving deadline dates or having deadline at a particular time of the day so people think they have that whole day to get payment in. They change policies and raise fees at will yet there’s no regulation. They give cards to anyone.
On reading many messages posted on boards it seems there is a growing amount of people that are for Obama. There also seems to be a growing amount of people who are questioning why Obama doesn’t speak in specifics and they do deserve to hear specifics. Should Obama get the nomination he will be asked by Republicans about specifics and the media will no longer be able to cover the fact that he doesn’t speak in specifics.
Bush simply refused to speak about his substance abuse past 20 years. That was odd but got away with it. Obama has admitted his cocaine use in the past. I have to wonder if that is what we want in a president. At least Bush refused to answer the question.

Posted by: Earl | February 12, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Florida broke the rules and lost its voice.
Michigan broke the rules and lost its votes.
Actions have Consequences.
How hard is this to understand?
Republican.

Posted by: Chris Fischahs | February 12, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Obama makes an excellent preacher. He uses inspiring words, but where’s the substance? “Our time has come”; “Something is happening”. What exactly do phrases like this mean? Journalists won’t ask him the tough questions. Yet, they talk about Ms. Clinton’s teenage years. Obama is an empty suit, nothing more. He and his surrogates act like he’s entitled to the nomination. He’s not scrutinized the way Ms. Clinton is but gets a pass. We really know nothing about him. His books are not a good source because he’s the AUTHOR.

Posted by: Vivi | February 12, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

Hillary’s argument that Florida and Michigan should count is so disengenous. Do you believe she would make the same argument if her name was not on the ballot in Michigan or if she had lost in Florida? She fames it as though she is concerned about the people’s vote. Why agree to the rules to begin with if that was so troubling to her?
In Nevada, she supported the opposite…changing the rules to not allow people to vote at sites within their workplace. She wanted the rules changed after the UNION she courted endorsed Obama.
Lack of principle, that’s why I stopped supporting her.

Posted by: Jane Smoot | February 12, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Earl…you must remember the Bill Clinton “I didn’t inhale” comment? If everyone was judged on what they did as a teenager or while they were in college they would never get a job. I graduated from an elite east coast college in the early 80′s and several of my classmates are now successful cardiologists, judges, CEOs, and one was recently elected a US Senator. We were at college during the Animal House era. Most of us did things we shouldn’t have done. Does that mean we are unfit to be in the jobs we’re in? And on the specifics issue, Hillary Clinton wants everyone to think Obama is short on them. He is not. He has detailed plans on every issue Hillary does. For those who want to know what they are they are widely available. Hillary is counting on the American people being lazy and not bothering to find out the truth. It’s your choice who you want to believe.

Posted by: Janet | February 12, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Ron M. – Thanks for the back up. It’s nice to know that there are others out there who can have a civil debate without slinging mud in order to make a point. I like Obama as well, in fact like him a lot. But he is just not ready to lead.

Posted by: Michael Merenstein | February 12, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Bad news for you all who are salivating over hidden skeletons under Obama’s bed. The Clinton’s people, the same ones who poured over his Kindergarten records, as well as numerous bounty hunters, have searched and found nothing.
The guy is 46. He spent most of his adult life int he lime light in Chicago politics. His record is there in the open.
All the truthful negative things that could have been said are disclosed by him in his book. This is a different kind of politician
The false negatives have also been said and debunked.
So, sorry … you will have to stick to the issues.

Posted by: Maria D | February 12, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

I was a big Obama supporter. So big in fact that I volunteered to go out and campaign for him door to door. In the training, you know what they taught us? To avoid the issues. When pressed on Obama’s stance on taxes, or the economy, we weren’t supposed to state specifics, but rather how Obama makes us feel. We were taught to emotionalize it. At that moment I felt like the fog had lifted and realized that I had been sucked in by a snake oil salesman. His campaign is smoke and mirrors. While I looked around to see if any of my classmates had realized the same I noticed they were all blindly nodding. Content to push on ahead as part of this phenomenon that has become Obama.

Posted by: Reformed Obama supporter | February 12, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am

On the one hand the Obama campaign is saying that we should not change the rules in the middle of the game and allow the Florida and Michigan delegates to be seated but yet they DO want to change the rules in the middle of the game and state that super delegates should not be allowed to vote how they want (which has been the rule for 20 years) but rather they should vote based on some other factor. Is the Obama campaign saying that the Florida and Michigan delegates should not be seated since those are the rules but the rules should be broken when it comes to super delegates?

Posted by: Eric | February 12, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

details….
to the “reformed obama supporter” commenter, i went door to door for obama too. no one ever told me not to talk about issues. in fact, they didn’t try to guide what we said that much. they just mostly said be open about why i supported him, and to encourage people to check out the website for more info. i got into a lot of policy discussions with people, but from my own knowledge on obama’s stances on the subjects. there weren’t any policy scripts from us to read from like robots, if that’s what you’re talking about.

Posted by: adam | February 12, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

As a Canadian I can’t vote, however I’d advise everyone to read both candidate web sites and understand the differences in issues before making their decision. It’s easy to follow a movement leader who says little except “yes we can”, not so easy to digest issues and solutions.

Posted by: c grucela | February 12, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

Can someone please explain to me the delegate count in the Democrat party. I am not talking about Super Delegates. I am speaking of just state delegate counts.
before Obama swept these last three states, he was behind Clinton by 1 delegate. Now we are about to decide VA, MD, and DC and he is behind by apx 30 delegates. how is this possible?
Which begs another question, Every TV Network has different delegate counts, and none are the same.How can this be?
What is going On? Is the democratic Party this Corrupt?

Posted by: brenpat | February 12, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

First off, HURRAH for Hillary Clinton for finally fighting back on the realities of both campaigns. You put parentheticals to try to insert her contradiction, but in fact Hillary really hasn’t run many, if only one you can point out, ads against Obama; which actually disappointed me. Yet Obama spent millions on ads against Hillary Clinton, especially to insinuate she isn’t for Universal Healthcare. How dare he! He knows better than that! Hillary is entirely FOR Universal Healthcare, but her approach now is an approach that won’t hinder the doctors and insurance companies discontent with the idea of it… so it actually has the ability to pass House. Obama talks a lot about it, but doesn’t walk the walk. And I urge you to go to your local news station and ask for the public records of the ads that Obama has purchased to run with ads AGAINST Hillary and you will find he has spent a lot of money.
I just want to comment on the “Reformed Obama Supporter.” Thank you for sharing your story. I have a similar story myself and the minute I pulled away from the campaign, every one of my friends in the campaign turned against me in a cultish manner, as if I was defying Liberty. When in fact, I want those things so that is why I pulled away from the campaign. I want to acknowledge the real issues we are facing today that Hillary addresses and where we Americans had real positive changes in all her policies: boosting terrible economy, addressing financial crisis amongst the 95%, improving our terrible education system, decreasing crime rate by instilling rehabilitation and preventative programs aside from incarceration, unemployment rate going up and lastly, the one my parents are going through getting people and banks out of this foreclosure mess. I CARE SO MUCH about these issues that I was so upset, hurt and almost felt betrayed when the Obama Campaign did not want to address these things. And it actually wasn’t because they didn’t want to address it; I realized that they couldn’t address it… they didn’t know how to; so instead they kept saying “it’s not going to work, because we need something different. And that is Change.” Needless to say, they ignored me the minute I said “Different” and “Change” are actually pretty synonymous. So the result of different can’t be change, because than change would have to be in place of a tangible meaning. They are cowards. They are brainwashed. They don’t have their own individual voice. They have Obama’s voice.
Everyone of us have been born AS INDIVIDUALS. We have the right to think for ourselves, yet some do live for acknowledgment of the Other Being (whoever that may be), but the bottom line is, we’ve always had the choice to be individuals with our own thoughts. And it shouldn’t take a guy to make us suddenly realize that this exists. It’s always has existed, we always knew it in ourselves, but Obama brings it out as if it’s a new thing. It isn’t, it’s an old thing; so that cannot be change. it’s the same old same old same old thing. The only difference is if one chooses to act on it; Obama has yet to act on his deceptive lingo.
Hillary acts on changing things from economy to education to healthcare to crime; she doesn’t talk about change to wait for an applause.
And yes, those shady things that the FBI is finding about Obama are all VERY REAL. Not an ideal. REAL THINGS he has done and acted on as a human being. REAL SHADY THINGS.

Posted by: Interesting | February 12, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

Can someone please explain to me the delegate count in the Democrat party. I am not talking about Super Delegates. I am speaking of just state delegate counts.
before Obama swept these last three states, he was behind Clinton by 1 delegate. Now we are about to decide VA, MD, and DC and he is behind by apx 30 delegates. how is this possible?
Which begs another question, Every TV Network has different delegate counts, and none are the same.How can this be?
What is going On? Is the democratic Party this Corrupt?

Posted by: brenpat | February 12, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

To Interesting -
Truer words were never spoken! We met up with Obama people on the ground in NH and they could not articulate why someone should vote for Obama other then “change”. It was both alarming and shocking that this “new leader” of change would have so man people into believing that all can be achieved through his idea of “change” and little more. We know Hillary is an agent of change even if others refuse to acknowledge it. We need to keep pressing on and engage in CIVIL debates and not mud sling as his campaign has done.
Hillary is about dignity and respect and has EVERY RIGHT TO DEFEND HERSELF. Lets remember that it has been Obama at EVERY debate that throws the first punch! As supporters, lets continue to rise above that even when others cannot comprehend a very basic virtue.

Posted by: Michael Merenstein | February 12, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

Hillary and her supporters keep saying “she’s been attacked by the Republicans for 20 years and has therefore been “vetted” by them.”
Guess what? She has been attacked by the Republicans for 20 years and IT’S WORKED!
A great many conservatives hate the Clintons (both of them) with a passion that surpasses any other Democratic politician. They think she is a liar, they think she is a “cold, calculating machine,” they think that they have committed fraud, many even think that they help cover up murders!
Guess what? 20 years of attacks by the likes of O’Reilly et al. tends to stick in people’s heads, even those moderate enough not to listen to O’Reilly et al.
So forget being “vetted” by them. Vetted nothing. They won’t need to bring up anything new during the campaign because they have been doing it for the last 20 years — like she admits!
Why do you think she constantly polls worse against Republican candidates then Obama? Because that’s the reality: 20 years of Republican attacks have left their indelible mark.

Posted by: Sam | February 12, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

@Michael Merenstein:
There are two issues:
First, almost every news organization tries to include the super delegates in their counts, all of which is subject to interpretation because none of the votes are committed. They are counting those super delegates who have publicly voiced their support, but this count varies between organizations.
Second: Not even all the pledged delegates have been allocated. For example, the majority of caucus states do not pledge their delegates until a second round, which is when they decide on what to do with the results of the caucus. While this is generally easy to predict based on the results of the caucus, it’s not fool-proof therefore, different news organizations have been counting differently.
It’s a pretty stupidly complicated and opaque process. Go figure.

Posted by: Sam | February 12, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

@brenpat
Sorry, the last comment was directed to you.

Posted by: Sam | February 12, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

To his followers – Sen. Obama walks on water, feeds them bread, and has a good supply of wine.
Wait till they follow him into the water.
Obama is the CNN & MSNBC press darling – the CNN “embedded ones” with the Obama campaign see only stars and angels when they talk about him. Their “embedded one” with the Clinton campaign see only – the fires of Hell when describing Sen. Clinton.
MSNBC’s Matthews — encourages people to vote for Obama – because Obama is such a nice guy.
ABC and Fox seem to be the only news-networks left. Good Job

Posted by: frank | February 12, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

I think everyone agrees that the republicans hate Hillary and Bill with a passion. Do you ever ask yourselves, why? Is it because their success is the republican’s failure? By working to improve the plight of the middle class the Clintons have ruined the republicans desire to have a country of only poor and rich? They immediately went after Hillary because she wanted Universal health care. Hillary knew what was right for this country when Barak was contemplating if heroin was right for him. Who is the real visionary here? I keep hearing people talk about how inspiring Barak is and all the change he will bring. Those speeches he gives come from John F Kennedy’s speechwriter. That “yes we can” comes from the farm labor movement of the United Farm Workers (who back Hillary by the way). Not new, rehashed from days gone by. I have also read many stories of how Barak has asked people for advice. Ted Kennedy, Hillary, and the person who set up the blind trust (apparently turned out to be not so blind). I am sure with a little digging you would find out that Barak doesn’t have an independent thought of his own…..kind of like another recent republican president. At the end of the day all that is left is an empty suit preaching from the teleprompter, a lot of promises and a big ego that wouldn’t accept the advice from everyone that he wasn’t ready. It’s not to late, there is still hope…..vote for Hillary. The republicans will have Obama for lunch, or he will turn out to be their ally, not sure which one scares me more.

Posted by: Firefighter | February 12, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

@EARL
Bush invaded Iraq. Hillary voted to support him.
Go Obama!

Posted by: Otto | February 12, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

Hillary Clinton a fighter? I beg to differ. A fighter is someone who fights for what they believe, day in, day out, 24-07. A fighter fights with conviction, through rain and shine, summer and winter, without the big bucks, without feathering their nest – and usually alone. A fighter fights clean, nothing like the Clinton’s signature style. A fighter who fights the good fight can lose without crying; actors & politicians cry. Hillary may be called many things, but she’s no fighter:

Posted by: Peggy McGilligan | February 13, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am

Hillary wants to garnish wages for universal health care. Is that a good stepping stone to the end goal of universal health care? Obviously not. This needs to be done in stages, which is why I prefer Obama’s plan. I live in Massachusetts where a Hillary-type mandated system is in place and some folks simply do not have the clerical acumen to wade through the red tape to sort out their health care coverage. The result? Fines and wasted enforcement efforts! This is no way to run a government, and is why Hillary’s first crack at national health care flopped like a seal on a beach.

Posted by: Sylvia Alexander | February 13, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

Let’s set the record straight. Intelligence reports stated there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq so Obama voted AGAINST protecting America. There is no way he could have known that there were not weapons there–so- I think he SUCKS at national security. If you vote Obama, you are voting for the downfall of America.

Posted by: Rick S. | February 13, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

If the election were held tomorrow I could not possibly vote for Obama because Hillary is dead on! Whether it’s fear of being labeled racist or whether it’s infatuation, the media trips over itself making sure Obama is never asked a hard question. Whether it’s “Hardball” Matthews, Tim Russert, or the 60-Minutes team it’s no hard questions, no followup questions, just let the man preach. Matthews cries for him; Russert savages everyone but — it is all just so sick.

Posted by: cerebral_but_dull | February 14, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am

I always thought “vetted” was something that was done to your dog or cat.
:-)
Tired of hearing some of the $250 dollar an hour vocabulary of Mrs. Clinton. Even if you listen to a debate with her you’ve got to have a dictionary with you on the couch.
Senator Obama was editor of a law review and is a dynamic orator, yet he speaks with words that the ordinary citizen can understand.
Let’s “vet” these big words and instead focus on big ideas.

Posted by: Robert Campbell | February 16, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

C’mon Robert, “vet” is a 3-letter word, not some impossibly deep concept. It simply means that the media have grilled Hillary (and everybody else) whereas they refuse to ask Obama a hard question, either for fear that he may blow it or for fear that they’ll be labeled a racist.

Posted by: cerebral_but_dull | February 18, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

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