In the Democratic Race, Whither White Men

Where will all those white men go that did not vote for Obama? If half of them go McCain can we still win? My gut tells me we will be in Iraq for 100 years and we will have a new war with Iran. GOD help us.

ithinkurstupid: PLEASE tell Obama THAT!

The media tells us it is Clinton or Obama that brings up race. However, all I see is the media bringing it up!!! Constantly writing about it throwing it in our face.

Hey White Men! Here are the facts to chew on. Hillary has been to Iraq multiple times and met with military leaders in order to educate herself about the situation there. Obama has NEVER been there. Hillary is a leader who has the courage to vote Yes or No. Obama voted “Present” over and over again in Illinois. Leadership requires hands on education and experience AND the courage to make decisions.

“Jack”: There IS another choice—Mike Gravel!!! I & MANY OTHERS are voting for Gravel…DESPITE the fact that mainstream media never acknowledges him, he IS still running (he’s currently considering an “Independant” ticket)!!! =) SPREAD THE WORD!!!

Reading, too many questions of what, who, where, and when for OB. Not great qualifications to be Commander in Chief, the one who leads this nations safety. Republicans might not have a great record but they don’t bring out the words OB does. Indians, white, black, latino, kkk, getto, etc…it is reality, but not suppose to be a factor, if your true to freedom. Tired of this through Obama’s media hype. God bless America.

Hey Obama lovers.
Go look the name ‘George Mc Govern’ . You may find a PILE of similarities to the hype Obama is bringing compared to him.
Kinda the reason super delegates were created in the first place.

UNIVERSECREATOR: Obama HIMSELF, constantly speaks about different “groups” of people (HE’S the ONE that BEGAN all that kind of talk)! IN FACT, last time I checked out HIS OWN website, he actually had different “messages” for each different “group” of people!!!!! CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELF!!!!!

Race and Gender is playing a great role in this election. Only thing is white not voting for white but not in case of black. That’s why obama is doing great.

The blacks are the racist in this election. Over 85% of the blacks will vote for Obama, simply because he is a black muslim, whom they can associate with. The Whites also vote for him, because they don’t want to be perceived as racist. Any white who is racist will face saction or lose their jobs. So, it is great for the media to praise Obama, and would not dare to explore his NO ACCOMPLISHEMENT in his home state of Illinois. The WHITES are tired to be called racist if they critize Obama.

I don’t care what color, race, religion, gender a candidate is or even his favorite bubble gum flavor. I don’t like Obama’s politics or Clinton’s. I’m not too much on McCain’s. Huckabee is better but he isn’t perfect. Clinton and Obama voted to give amnesty to illegal aliens. McCain wrote the bill! Huckabee wants to give college educations to illegal aliens, before Americans get it. McCain is willing to circumvent the Second Amendment to an extent. Hillary wants to totally disregard it. Obama makes Hillary look like the president of the NRA. Huckabee says he will enforce the First Amendment but I’m still not sure. The last time we elected a preacher we ended up in WW1 and the League of Nations which became the UN. I shudder to think what the next one will do. … Face it, there are no good choices left. It will come down to Hillary or Obama vs McCain. It’s just a matter of America losing a lot or a little. Either way we lose. I’m just glad Giuliani is out of it.

Defining the voters by college education may be a non-issue like the last 3 elections (1996, 2000 and 2004) with both, Democrat and Republican splitting those voters 50-50. I assume that some policies like the expiration of the Bush Tax cuts in 2010 may drive voters with college education with high salaries to vote Republican and away from any democratic candidate, Clinton or Obama.

In the past decades in the different parts of the world, women has exemplied themselves in politics became presidents and prime ministers but not in the United States. The US being the symbol of democracy and freedom and yet no woman has ever got the presidency. It is always the MEN who rules and wins but stumbles. Men should not have the monopoly of power but instead recognize also that women are capable of leading, nurturing, caring, and etc….
I guess it is high time for America (US) to have their first woman president. America must be proud to have a woman like Hillary standing up in this presidential election. She has the brain, intelligence, passion, education, vision and the experience. She is not perfect but she can be a good leader to give a NEW FACE to America (US) in a Woman’s perspective. Since America was born we have been lead by men, let us have a change of mentality in the perspective of a WOMAN.
I would love to see America (US) leading and making a herself a good model for the whole world in another perspective.
This is just my 1 dime opinion.

Black or White, male or female, democrat or republican it would behoove you to consider that we are all living in the United States and we will all fall as will our fortunes if we don’t learn to respect the people that make up our diverse culture. You see the party is over. You can ot expect your economy to thrive if market share can not be increased globally. We are into a NEW part of the globe. One that knows you better than you know yourself. Do you really think a white woman can cut a deal that will keep you out of war for the rest of your life among a people who are non-white? The inability for the white male to do this has already been established. So how many of you are willing white man to kill yourself off to extinction? It’s not like your families are made up of 8-10 children like back in the days of the civil war. You don’t even number 5-6 as during WWII. So truth be told you can’t “win” your way anymore by fighting a war. The gigg is up so to speak. There are things you do not know because you have never been taught. Thank goodness many of you have made friends among non-white people so it is to you I say lead the way for the sake of your people for the sake of this country. After thousands of years of of whites against non-whites the United States is uniguely position to tapp it’s diversity to lead in a “NEW” way.
Stop being afraid to embrace it.

I think this is also a sexist issue, men are threaatend by clinton being a woman so they vote for who obama the preacher. A true man would vote for obama

HILLARY’S HANDS ARE TIED -BILL’S HANDS ARE TIED. OBAMA CAN THROW ALL THE MUD HE WANTS,,,,,,,,,IF YOU RESPOND TO OBAMA -IT’S RACISM – THIS IS CRAZY, MEN
HAD HILLARY ASKED OBAMA TO RELEASE DETAILS OF HIS TAXES, DEALINGS WITH REZKO AND to tell us WHO IS SENDING $32 MILLIONS TO OBAMA—THE MEDIA WOULD BE UP IN ARMS. TED KENNEDY WOULD BE ALL OVER THE STAGE JUMPING LIKE AN OLD FOOL AND SHUSTER WOULD CLAIM CLINTON GOT THE MONEY PIMPING HER PRECIOUS DAUGHTER…WHO IS THIS OBAMA AND WHY DOES HE THINK HE IS IN A POSITION TO INPUGNE THE INTEGRITY OF CLINTONS-
THIS GUY OBAMA IS CRAZY POWER HUNGRY. THIS WILL BACKFIRE!HOPEFULLY, THE MEDIA WILL BE FAIR FOR ONCE. BILL CLINTON GETS PAID $1,000,000 TO SPEAK AT ONE GATHERING. THEY HAVE UNBELIEVABLE REVENUES COMING FROM BOOKS—-OBAMA IS NOTHING BUT AIR-

It saddens me to read the anonymous fear you all display so readily on a computer blog and in a ballot booth. It is this mentality that fed into and supported terror groups like the KKK. It is this mentality that led the South to want to try and cede the Union. But, this fear really is based in ignorance. After all, the South itself is even showing more progressiveness than you are in 2008.
To vote for a man because he is white is just as racist as not voting for a man because he is black. The same applies when voting for a woman. Voting for a woman because she is a “white” woman is also too considered racism.
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Everyone on this blog, the world is passing you by. And the world is not white. White power only exists in your minds. Your children are moving beyond it because they see the world as it exists today and tomorrow, not as it existed yesterday. And considering Obama’s ethnic background, I would highly suggest that all of you also research your own backgrounds and discover who is also in your family lineage — regardless of which part of the nation you now live in. Slavery not only strong impacted and built this country economically, but also genealogically. Change is the only constant in life people. Reality check yourselves and do not let your decisions be driven by fear and ignorance.

One more thing that’s been driving me nuts about the fawning Obama coverage – they keep talking about the college educated voters going for him, well my retort to that is point out how watered down and weak most majors at universities has become. It is NOT by coincidence that MOST of our country’s best, brightest and biggest innovators are either college dropouts or never attended at all. The university experience in malleable fields such as political science, history, philosophy/psychology and other “liberal arts” type disciplines are now nothing more than PC liberal indoctrination centers. It is in fact a joke that they are even allowed to teach economics because the liberal, tenure system they use ensures non-competitive, poorly balanced and costly education, it is no wonder that the cost of education is rising at a pace even much faster than health care. Yet no one rails against “big education” – wonder why that is?.

libs…bad, have you ever gone to Obama’s website and read under ‘issues’ his positions on healthcare, seniors, social security, national defense, etc.? Perhaps if you had you would understand why more and more people are joining him. His ideas are much better than Hillary’s because he doesn’t ‘owe’ corporate America anything, like Hillary does for the huge donations they gave her. Just like Bill before her. Obama has proven his heart is in the right place to lead us by not taking corporate dollars and his extensive, intelligent plans on his website shows he is prepared to be our leader. Read, then you’ll understand.

Ps. “Thee most anti-corruption candidate” who is STILL running (though you’d
NEVER
KNOW it) is MIKE GRAVEL!

I would think that white men would vote the opposite of Oprah (my husband can’t stand her)

A vote for Obama is a vote for Ted Kennedy

moddem, I agree with you, especially when it comes to whites over 60. Sorry to say it, but I don’t think older folks will vote for a woman or anyone of color. With luck and more open minds, in a few years, it won’t make a difference. I’m a white woman, not affiliated with any party, who would never vote for McCain. After his amnesty proposal and reading recently about how his first marriage ended, he will never get my vote. I always say if someone is willing to treat the other parent of their children in such a manner, imagine what they’d be willing to do to the rest of us.

Gene Yuss: I MEANT to ask you—ARE you going to vote AT ALL? Even though I KNOW what you said IS MOST PROBABLY TRUE, I MYSELF, am going to give it a shot, & am going to vote for MIKE GRAVEL…HOPE you do TOO!!!

How refreshing it would be if ABC and others broke down the election according to the AMERICAN vote. We ARE still one country, aren’t we? You know, the Melting Pot? E Pluribus Unum and all that crap?
I wouldn’t expect this racial dissection and backbiting to stop even with an Obama presidency. Too many people have a stake invested in stoking racial divisions, including ABC. It’s copy too good to let go. This blog is a perfect case in point.
Think of it this way: if racism were declared dead in an Obama election, what then would Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and all the other so-called “black leaders” do for work without Whitey to kick around anymore?
Without being able to claim oppression with a black president steering the Ship of State? Take ‘The Man’ away, and what have they got? What do they do when their man is ‘The Man’?
They’d be in the same state of hurt Al Gore, all the thousands of junk scientists and overpaid UN bureaucrats would be in if Global Warming was definitively exposed as a hoax. Never forget that for some people, stirring social and racial discord, and instilling groundless fear and panic isn’t just an adventure, it’s a job. Well-paying, most of them too.

Well.
The sheer number of conspiracy-theorists in the thread (those who say “[white] men” are voting strategically for Obama to ensure a win by McCain – obviously, since he’s THE white male) proves that there is a high degree of illiteracy and inumeracy among those who are upset about Clinton’s defeat. The article clearly SAYS that white MEN are 50% LESS likely than white women to vote on the basis of sex, and STILL there are female gender warriors writing in to claim a conspiracy of promoting white males in their support of Obama. Such gender warriors – and one of them even claims to be a member of MENSA – who are likely a part of or related to this 30+% phenomenon of sexist women, only prove how idiotic they are when they spout this sort of illogical garbage and nonsense. And they only perpetuate a stereotype of women being less likely to possess the capacity for logical thought. A truly fatuous exercise in self-parody if ever there was one.
It was one thing to argue how Hillary’s candidacy would be a good thing as a role model for girls – which I was cynical about given her greater resemblance to a female Nixon than to a female Washington or Lincoln – but it is entirely another to witness a candidacy that for so many revolves as meaninglessly around sisterhood as Bush’s presidency revolved around nationalism. Some 20% of the electorate would support Bush no matter what because of the power of that theme. Luckily, the 30 some odd percent of white women who have the same mental deficits when it comes to their own form of solidarity comprise an even smaller share of the electorate, though. But they are just as die-hard in their passionate obsession with a meaningless criterion in the candidates. And the clincher is that, the reason Hillary is doing so comparitively poorly – given her extraordinary privileges, and YES, I mean PRIVILEGES, coming into this race – is that she is one of them. Just the same way BUSH is one of his own crowd of merry band of idiots.
There is nothing more pathetic than someone so willing to die-hard for something so removed from reality. I always thought there was something to I needed to find more respect for when it came to feminism, but now this finally proves that I don’t. The downfall of Hillary’s ignominous candidacy marks the quixotic death of second-wave feminism more capably than any MAN could have demonstrated it. Short of depriving their male citizens the vote, women will now have to accept that if they want to compete politically in a democracy, they will have to do it in the only way that it makes sense to – as INDIVIDUALS and not as members of a hive-minded collective of biological identity-obsessed freaks. Keep evolving to the Third Wave, Ladies and learn to embrace individuality – as the rest of the grown-up world has done. It can be a scary concept, I know, but so can be a state of permanent infantilization. Grow up already, as the generation of males and females who have followed you already have done so.

Reading these comments should raise concern for any intelligent person who has managed to venture beyond the daily onslaught of rhetoric and untruths inundating the blogs, media, and spinmeister’s such as Coulter, Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin and others. On this post alone we have one who declared IRS a non-federal agency, owned by a cartel (possibly he might have been referring to the Federal Reserve). One posted Hillary as having served two Senatorial terms, (she has served one full six year term and was re-elected to a second term beginning in 2007 and has spent that entire year campaigning). One’s who keep posting that Senator Obama said he did not VOTE for the Iraq war. (he said he COULDN’T SUPPORT the action, never has he said he didn’t vote for the resolution). One posted he will not vote for McCain because he consorts with the two Communist Democratic candidates, (so I guess he’s not voting at all and I wonder why he’s bothering to post). Probably less than 5% of people posting on blogs mentions anything at all about these candidates records. Very few note that while Hillary Clinton in her first six years was authoring and getting passed into law, only 20 pieces of legislation, (most of which was totally without meaning,{naming post offices, congratulating soccer teams, declaring forest in Puerto Rico part of Nationally protected reserve, etc.}). Barack Obama was authoring and passing legislation dealing with Government Transparency, Illegal Immigration, Nuclear Non-Proliferation, Scaling back of earmarks, ending lobbying as we now know it. If you like I can post both of these Senator’s records straight from the Senate floor. Not one person has mentioned that John McCain has a 51% absentee record from the Senate over his entire career. Not one has mentioned the fact that Barack Obama has proposed more legislation benefiting our veterans than any other Senator in three decades, while John McCain talks about being a veteran. Not one mentions the fact Senator Obama who proposes strong social infrastructures as well as strong national defense introduced legislation to overhaul our tax structure and close tax loopholes that presently allow the modern day robber barons to continue to drain this nation of capital. Not one of you has commented on the fact that Hillary Clinton in her first year earned the title in the Senate as “earmark queen” (Google the phrase) , favoring mainly New York defense and pharmaceutical industries, who in turn have become huge contributors to her campaign. A practice Barack Obama shuns and has introduced legislation to stop. It’s really scary to know that so few actually take take the time to study these candidates and will have a huge impact in the decision of who will lead this nation’s government. Also the writer of this article points out the statistic that those of the caucasian race favoring Senator Obama are those of higher education, if he were to take his statistics even further, he would find that not only white, but also black, hispanic, and asian people of higher education lean heavily toward Senator Obama.

Its truly amazing and yet, still heart
breaking to read the comments of whom I would suspect to be the comments of those with simply an opinion, but not any real experience with the “bottom” of this society. As an over 50, black male born and raised in the “inner city”
and having retired from the US Military,
its crazy to read how a white woman thinks that sexism is greater than racism in this country! Tell me ma’am,
how many white women are shot in the back by police for simply being a woman?
And why is it okay for females to vote for Clinton and be proud of their vote,
but somehow its “racist” for blacks to
vote for Obama? Actually, I don’t really blame those with that mentality because I know we all are the products of a racist, sexist, homophobic society.
And the ruling class understands full well that in order for them to remain in
power, they must continue to promote fear to separate us whom have much more
in common with each other than with them
Specifically, I’m talking about white middle class whites in this country who
amazingly seem to identify with a class of people who they could NEVER aspire to be…the ruling class! Get with it people and get over your shortsighted, racist tendencies. You ain’t gotta like
me as I don’t have to like you…however
whether you choose to accept it or not,
you (middle class whites) have much more
in common with working and middle class
blacks and latinos in this country than
you ever will have with the 2% of people
who rule this country. Its NOT about
race or gender, its about class.

What is CLEAR from many of the post on here is…..”There are still many really SICK PEOPLE in this country”.
I thought we were having primaries for 2008, while from the looks of things some of you are rejects from the 1800′s or 1900′s! Move on people or try READING book for once and explore life outside of the tired realm of black and white.
By the way, why can’t African Americans be voting for who they think is the best candidate? Were they being racist every time since Reconstruction when casting a ballot for a “white candidate”
?
I think what those that make such clearly stupid statements are doing is describing their voting habits.
Get a life and stop race/gender baiting…..It’s OLD!

I applaud you, and agree wholeheartedly with you, Jim from KC.

It is unbelievable that so many people can jump on the banwagan especially the media who want to make Obama look as the untouchable and the daily cried we have found a saviour The messiah Obama.But what is his nessage .Change chamge change to what?

Now, this article bears watching. We are quite a cynical people. We dearly love to fight and white men voting for a black man over a white man in America? What have we come to? I love this NEW AMERICAN MAJORITY. The hopes and dreams of the people who founded this country are about to be realized. What we have promoted in a Democracy is now coming to pass. Our Best Days are in front of us. Take a deep breath. It’s going to be interesting. Mrs. Clinton will not win the nomination. I wish for her, a graceful exit. Abraham Lincoln said it well, “with the people, you can do anything, without them, you can do nothing”. The people, (in the Democratic Party) are not with her.
Now on to the General Election. Where we will determine principally whether we live in a Republic or a Democracy.
Senator Obama got a little specific today. He’s going to spend a little money here at home. The Republicans say it’s going to cost but it’s money spent at home not across the waters and our men and women can look forward to coming home to jobs and a future. That’s what we all want, for real. Now if we can just get past a few things, and we will, we have no choice.

I’m a white man and am voting for Clinton. At first, Obama had me in tears when listening to his speeches. After hearing the same rhetoric over and over, I’ve come to realise it is only that – rhetoric without substance. I’m also a college graduate, so that’s now 2 strikes against the polls supposedly favoring Obama. Bill Clinton hit it on the head but nobody really wants to talk about it. It is all about race and it always has been. These African American politicians that are jumping from the Titanic in favor of Obama had this planned from the beginning. They were never “pro” Hillary. They wanted to appear they were “pro” Hillary so that it wouldn’t look like it was tied to racism. But, it’s obvious their timing is impeccable. They have turned out to be racial hypocrites planning this from the beginning. It’s so disappointing. If Hillary doesn’t get the nomination, I will vote for Obama over McCain, but it will be with much trepidation!

Anyone who thinks that sexism isn’t a big part of this race is just kidding themselves. I don’t think all men are sexist but there is enough to keep Hillary from getting elected. When women fought for the right to vote the white men in power decided to give it to the black man leaving white and black women out in the cold. This is just history repeating itself.

I predict that the next aggressive superpower will grow too tired digging through the blowed up and ash ridden politically correct and very dead military industrial complex that exists today (or the one coming to fruition) before they can get to the real America which will be too busy tinkering in the backyard and educating their own kids to even notice the enemy digging or the destruction that came before.