McCain Adviser Won’t Fight Obama
ABC News’ Teddy Davis Reports: On Wednesday, a top adviser to John McCain said more definitively than he has in the past that he will step down from the Arizona senator’s presidential campaign if the presumed GOP nominee faces Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., in the general election.
"I would simply be uncomfortable being in a campaign that would be inevitably attacking Barack Obama," said McCain adviser Mark McKinnon in an interview with NPR’s "All Things Considered." "I think it would be uncomfortable for me, and I think it would be bad for the McCain campaign."
McKinnon, who was a Democrat before serving as President Bush’s ad maker in 2000 and 2004, said that he plans to be behind McCain "100 percent" no matter who the Democratic nominee is. He explained, however, that if the Democrats nominate Obama, he will be supporting McCain "from the sidelines."
While saying that he does not agree with Obama on every issue, McKinnon gushed about the Illinois Democrat.
"I met Barack Obama, I read his book, I like him a great deal," said McKinnon. "I disagree with him on very fundamental issues. But I think, as I said, I think it would a great race for the country."
Audio of McKinnon’s NPR interview is available here.
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McCain needs to fire Mark McKinnon now. He proves himself unreliable. He is a Democrat and will vote that way no matter what he says now
Posted by: Byron Kendrick | February 13, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Wow, that is sad when your own advisers don’t back you…Too funny!!!!!
Posted by: hahahaha | February 13, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Might be a little premature, Byron. Clinton still might come back to win the nomination, and Mark McKinnon doesn’t seem to have any qualms campaigning against her.
Posted by: Paul | February 13, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
Wonder if Obama has some secret McCain admirers? Well, they are not so secret. Big hint…Ted Kennedy
Posted by: craig | February 13, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
This piece must be a trick, planted by Democrats to ### off Republicans.
The guy used to be a Democrat, he “supports McCain 100% …etc” BUT if the Dem Nominee is Barack Hosein Obama, he thinks it would be ” bad for McCain..”
Posted by: Roy Guscott | February 13, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Looks like a Obama/McCain 08 Ticket! They’re both libs, so why not?
Posted by: Jodeo | February 13, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
These people are gushing about a man who is saying absolutely nothing, but saying it very well. Obama needs to be revealed for what he is, vapor. His veneer is actually very thin, and the Repubs (and the country) need a candidate and a team than can carefully expose him on substance.
Posted by: Andy | February 13, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Brilliant move…whatever support Hil had left will evaporate when this gets out! The race against BHO may prove tough, but right now the important thing is to inoculate this country against Clintosis.
Posted by: socal_dirk | February 13, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
I notice Senator McCain surrounds himself with people that think like him. Remember, the senator said that he thought Hillary would make a great president. We can’t be sure that he is going to vote for himself.
Posted by: quantumfoam | February 13, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
This isn’t a surprise. McKinnon announced he was going to do this months ago if Obama became the nominee, and told McCain of this directly from the start, and McCain was fine with it. McKinnon was upfront about this with McCain from Day One and McCain still wanted him to do his media for the primary campaign.
Posted by: Ron | February 13, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
The real shock is there’s someone working for McCain with a conscience. D.
Posted by: David G. | February 13, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
No one is better at saying nothing than Obama…no one. John needs to be sure to dump all the girlie boys right away. If you can’t fight…get out. Polical correctness means trying to pick up a turd by the clean end. Enough already.
Posted by: Leif W. Jensen | February 13, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
McKinnon is McCain’s paid message guy. To say Obama’s candidacy is not good for the campaign is not a good message. Hopefully, McCain will fix this fast.
Posted by: PaulKirk | February 13, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Fire the bum before he does anymore damage! What a disgrace!
Posted by: John | February 13, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Sounds like Marky Mark wants to be on the winning team. It’s the political equivalent of the floating resume. Keep me in mind, Barack!
Posted by: MileHighVoter | February 13, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
This is the eessential problem with McCain supporters — they are weak Democrats/weak Republicans. McCain needs to take hold of his ship and can/fire McKinnon for his ambiguous comments.
Posted by: Where's the unslanted NEWS??? | February 13, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
My bet is that this guy has said something racial in the past and he doesnt want it to come back and bite mccain.
Posted by: Gizmoduck | February 13, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
This is just the beginning of the Obama landslide. Stay tuned.
Posted by: MARTIN EDWIN "MICK" ANDERSEN | February 13, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Hahaha, where in the article did it say his advisor wasn’t backing him?
Posted by: Rick | February 13, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
That makes no sense. I like Obama too, and disagree with him on fundamental issues as well. Therefore I would work to beat him in November in preference for a candidate that better shares my values. Exactly what is driving Mr. McKinnon’s decision here? Sounds like he really doesn’t believe in McCain after all. He needs to be let go, post haste.
p.
Posted by: paul b. | February 13, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
If McKinnon feels that way, he should do the honorable thing and step down now; if McCain were to fire him, it would be blown out of proportion and used to emphasize McCains temper.
Posted by: jack | February 13, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
By the way, what if a soldier said he/she will fight al Qaida, but sit out the fight if we go to war with those charming Iranian Rev Guards? That is analagous to what Mark McDemocrat did, and to the message Mark sent to America. McCain needs to exercise leadership now. Fire the dude.
Posted by: Where's the unslanted NEWS??? | February 13, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Kay, he was born in America. His father is from Kenya and his mother from Kansas…but he was born in America. Last time I checked the US Constitution…you need to be born an American citizen.
Posted by: Erik | February 13, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Gushed? You’re an adviser in politics? Oh Brother!
Posted by: irma | February 13, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Here is a perfect example of why the current political chaos in the GOP exists. We have a so-called expert in politics who has been advising Bush and then McCain but who swoons over “The Unbearable Lightness of Being Barack” Hussein Obama! What ever happened to the manly ability to discern weak minded fools posing as expert advisors? For the GOP to have relied on this kind of mind illustrates just how morally and intellectually impaired they are.
Posted by: BBJR | February 13, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
I don’t understand what McKinnon is saying. Why would he step down from McCain’s campaign if Obama is the nominee? Why is Obama different from Hillary? Is he afraid that the campaigns will inevitably play the race card?
Posted by: confused | February 13, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
I agreee, McCain should drp-kick McKinnon NOW! I believe in the “white guilt” complex. It’s sad, to say the least. What, you can’t attack a non-white man running for POTUS for fear of being called a racist!? Thank you, Jesse Jackson. The Dem race IS race-based. Look at the recent polls! I know that there are plenty of mostly young white liberals are voting for Obama, because he’s young, good looking a so-called “change-agent” with a preacher’s fervor. But, look at the black vote. I think it’s primarily raced-based voting. Trouble is Obama has no qualifications or accomplishments to speak of. Obama’s just a likable guy with “change” as his main speech buzz word. All hat and no cattle. BTW, he IS the most liberal senator in congress based on voting record & no votes. The lefties love him, the blacks, and the young platform. All with little substance from Obama. I can’t believe that it’s come to a popularity race contest for POTUS for a lot of Dems and other folks. As polarizing as Bill-ary is, she’s far more qualified on day one. We conservatives ought to start thinking about congressional seats, supporting McCain and the presidency in 2012. I’d rather fight McCain on issues while in the White than the alternative: a liberal Dem POTUS AND Congress. Makes me ill at the thought.
Posted by: Davie | February 13, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Oh, one other thing, if Hill-ary wins the nomination at the DMC only because of the Super-delegate vote, I guarantee there will be riots in the streets.
Posted by: Davie | February 13, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
“Are American’s getting dumb?”
Anyone else see the irony in this?
Posted by: not functionally retarded | February 13, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Hey, McCain…that’s what you get for getting in bed with liberals all the time. You even wound up with one as your campaign advisor, you dope! LOL.
As a Conservative, I can’t vote for you. You won’t be any better for the nation as Obama or Clinton. I will write in Romney. I wish he had stayed in the race. Now we are stuck with a RINO like McAmnesty. Bleccchhhh!
Posted by: joyce | February 13, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
Davie,
Please listen to what I have to say.
You’ve bought the media’s and Hillary’s “experience” mantra hook, line and sinker. You’ve bought the media’s line that Obama is all fluff. Did you watch the Democratic debate between Hillary and Obama? I am willing to be my net worth that you did not. That debate was 110% substance, with specifics and details.
Posted by: HumanBeing | February 13, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
Patronizing racism at its finest, bested only by Obama manipulation of race. Why shouldn’t McCain attack Obama? Are African-American so frail that they cannot take on fierce attacks? Of course they’re not, but even the slightest suggestion that anyone would question Obama’s Purple Unicorn Dream Factory will get out the Sharptons yelling racism. For a minute I thought I could back Obama, but then I realized that he and campaign manipulate race to mute criticism. Even worse for me is the messianic tone of the Obama campaign. Even Huckabee wouldn’t dare use religious language the way that Obama does.
Posted by: Juan Venadito | February 13, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
I’m guessing Republicans will see this as weakness. But independents will see it as character on both McCain’s and McKinnon’s part.
You guys in the GOP seem to have no idea what a great tactical move you’ve made by presumably nominating McCain. The very reasons you don’t like him are the reasons independents do – and so long as you don’t commit political suicide, as in the base taking a collective vacation in Fiji this November, independents will decide the election.
From the Democrats perspective, it is sheer luck they also have a candidate who may be as if not more popular with independents.
Posted by: Paul | February 13, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Stop it, Mr. Confused! You make too much sense! Voters can’t deal with that…makes them have to think and they don’t like that.
Posted by: rachel | February 13, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
The media crowd has a hard time to have a critical look on Obama’s record. Every tiny amt of questions will always go back to – oh, he is black, that’s why he is being attacked crap. Make no mistake about it, coming this fall, no media would ever do any negative stories about Hussein Obama…too many people are afraid to label as the one being instructmental to defeat the most promising black man to win the White House in this generation.
Posted by: Mike | February 13, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Juan—-I am supposed to be happy that our nation will become a Socialist nightmare with the phony Republican McCain, and I should thank the Independents for that??? No thanks. You all can commit national suicide without MY gratitude. He won’t be any less dangerous to the nation as Obama or Hillary.
Posted by: Joyce- Los Angeles, CA | February 13, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
The reason why Obama is winning right now is because he listens to the legitimate criticisms leveled against him and he makes necessary changes. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN PEOPLE CONSISTENTLY SAY HE IS AN “EMPTY SUIT” OR SIMPLY RUNNING ON IDEALISTIC RHETORIC, HE MADE CHANGES TO HIS STUMP SPEECHES, ADDED MORE “MEAT,” SUBSTANCE, ADDED TOWN HALLS, ECONOMIC MEETINGS, ETC. Imagine a President who actually listens to the American people to get things done? Speaking of empty (pant) suits, why does Hillary avoid answering the question of healthcare mandates and tax increases for the majority of working Americans?
Posted by: Tiffany | February 13, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
A former democrat wants to tie McCains hands against Obamas attacks hmmmm hmmmmmm
Posted by: tyrone | February 13, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Ah yes. The “stubby-armed” old coot McCamesty vs Obama with his give-away drivers license program to illegal mexican aliens. What a pair to draw to. The voters don’t have much of a choice. Very sad. Very sad, indeed. The US will merge its’ borders with mexico and canada, and we’ll all live happily ever after.
Posted by: JOG | February 13, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Maybe the GOP needs to lose it all, as they did in 1992, so we can flush out the McKinnons, the McCains, the Spectors, the Olympia Snowes, the Susan Collinses, and the corrupt deadweight like Larry Craig (Arlen’s buddy). A rest did the conservatives wonder in 1993.
Posted by: Where's the unslanted NEWS??? | February 13, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
Please——-obama is the most liberal…or r we picking a President based upon youth, looks, charisma rather than policies….if so Teddy Roosevelt and Honest Abe would lose too. What a shame–
Posted by: IF OBAMA I PICK MCCAIN | February 13, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Heard all of Barack Hussein Obama’s speeches, thank God I’m a Catholic, they all sound like protestant rallies
Posted by: plainsm | February 13, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Irma, I’ve been to the site and read. All I see is these boxes he’s put a lot of people in. What I’m going to do for the Hispanics, Blacks, LBGT or whatever. Yepp he’s going to bring us all together. Except he’s left out a big chunk of America. By the way I didn’t see my group on his list.
Posted by: HongKongCharlie | February 13, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Please! Obama has not outlined any details of what he will do. He is simply running against the status quo when all that will happen if he wins is more status quo. The Federal government is a behemoth that no one person can change, he will change to fit it and line his pockets as well as his friends pockets for 4 or 8 years and of course set us on a collison course for more socialism…yeah can’t wait to watch my taxes go back up to pay for all the programs he promises every night. What a joke….
Posted by: Common Sense | February 13, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
What I can’t get is when he gets in front of audiences he turns on this affected southern accent! He’s from Illinois what’s the deal?
Posted by: plainsm | February 13, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
He just doesn’t want to lose. McCain is going to have hard time getting elected against Obama. He is very OLD and represent the opposite of CHANGE. Do you think Americans are going to elect some guy that stated on camera he doesn’t know much about the economy works?? The republicans nominated a real big idiot. He has flip flopped more than John Kerry!
Posted by: Bill | February 13, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Hey joyce; why don’t you listen to someone rather than yourself and other liberals. If or when you do, ask for proof and/or their voting record on the issues. It will speak for it’s self. America will be swirling the drain soon… It’s a sad time, but we’ve become ignorant, amoral and we deserve it. I truly hope BHO wins in Nov with a large Dem majority in congress; everyone will see what happens and hopefully wake-up. Only after that can we start to work again making this country great after the catastrophe that is coming our way soon. I just hope it doesn’t take 8 years as opposed to 4 years, but the American sheepeople are infinitely ignorant so we’ll see…
Posted by: TBaug | February 13, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
HA! McCain has just been stabbed in the back just like he’s been stabbing conservatives in the back for at least 30 years! payback really is a b****.
Posted by: Tom | February 13, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
Rasmussen has some interesting head to head polls in battleground states.
In Colorado, Obama has a nice lead over McCain, while McCain has a nice lead over Clinton.
In New Hampshire, Obama is strongly ahead of McCain, while McCain and Clinton are roughly equal.
A little good news for Clinton – she does better against McCain in Missouri than Obama does, though both contests are within a couple points, so inside the margin of error.
Rasmussen also has a national daily tracking poll. Obama has jumped to a five point lead today; the first time since the poll started early last year he has led in this poll.
Posted by: Paul | February 13, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Dang! McCain certainly knows how to pick em doesn’t he? First an adviser who is more supportive of Mexico than the USA and now an adviser who wimps out on a fight? America missed its best bet by letting McCain overtake Romney – and I wasn’t even for Romney!
Posted by: Russ Jansen | February 13, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Hillary and Bill are going to pull it off by hook or by crook. You can bet the Arkansas farm on it.
Posted by: kathy | February 13, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
So, um, anyone who trusts a conservative is a moron…after 7 years of bush’s crap, the media’s crap, now Newt Gingrich and Peggy Noonan, die hard conservatives making ‘positive’ comments towards Obama…republicans voting for Obama in the Primary all because…
THEY WANT TO WIN..they know they will if they run against him, are you people stupid?
Posted by: Josh | February 13, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
Hey, proof that Obamacans exist!
A commentator on CNN today said it’s really hard to run against a message of hope. People don’t like it when you bash hope.
RealClearPolitics.com shows Obama beats McCain in a head to head race. Check it out.
Posted by: Murry | February 13, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
uhh….fire his ass.
Posted by: Dog | February 13, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Has anyone else noticed that this Primary campaign is following a similar trajectory to the plot of the final season of the West Wing? Fresh young candidate who transcends race (so he was Hispanic rather than African-American, but so what) gets himself ahead in the Democratic race. Crusty old, socially liberal Republican (despite having trouble with his conservative base) ties up the GOP nomination. And wasn’t there even who resigned from Vinick’s campaign staff because he couldn’t bring himself to fight against the election of Santos?
Is this a case of life imitating art or what. Spooky.
Posted by: HonestJohn | February 13, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
I can’t believe this guy Senator Obama. or should I say Senator Zeus (D. Olympus) he promises everything to everybody and no one on one challenges him. he votes No on the Surveillance Bill and no one challenges him and this guy may be the next Commander in Chief. He’s more like the Messiah in Chief.
Posted by: ed | February 13, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
I can’t believe this guy Senator Obama. or should I say Senator Zeus (D. Olympus) he promises everything to everybody and no one on one challenges him. he votes No on the Surveillance Bill and no one challenges him and this guy may be the next Commander in Chief. He’s more like the Messiah in Chief.
Posted by: ed | February 13, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Sounds like Mark McKinnon is a democrat and looking for a job in the Obama Misadministration. Why is he even advising McCain now? I thought once McCain had the nomination he would lay down for the democrats, but isn’t it kind of early?
Posted by: You have to be kidding.... | February 13, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
I wonder what the Obama people have on Mark McKinnon.
Posted by: No Wewon't | February 13, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
McCain is getting a taste of what democrats are really about… themselves only!
Dems say and do the opposite of their statements after pandering for votes.
McCain was stupid to fall for the left’s set-up tactics, putting his name on bogus, CFR and Immigration bills to feed his mighty ego. He was suckered by Fiendgol, Kennedy and now trader Joe Lieberman.
Dems will use McCain (if he wins) to finish off conservatives, while he smiles for the cameras and media elites.
Democrats simply use people for the gain of their leftist agenda and then toss them aside like Hollyweird flash-in-the-pan liberal has-been’s, because all they really care about is money and power for themselves.
McCain needs to wise-up fast, but it’s unlikely, as you can’t teach an old dog new tricks.
Thank God 2012 will bring Romney back!
Posted by: F. Melgin | February 13, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
I never thought about it before, but Hillary and McCain, being such good “friends”, might mean that if she were the Democratic nominee, McCain would just let her win the Presidency. He just seems like that sort of nice guy. With his legislative history, he could do just that.
Posted by: dadpasadena | February 13, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Conservatives want to run against Hillary b/c even a percentage of Democrats dislike her greatly. Obama is their biggest fear. His favorable contrast w/ McCain couldn’t be greater.
Posted by: Bioretention | February 13, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
McNasty is part of the problem, not the solution, he’s been in DC over 25 years.
Posted by: Tom | February 13, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
I wonder how long it will take before Obama’s campaign makes claims of racism against McCain? When the going gets tough….just claim racism.
Posted by: Brad | February 13, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Obama’s got it made. McCain is just too slimy for conservatives to support.
Posted by: Fargin Bastiges | February 13, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Disgraceful. He needs to quit right now. What does he mean by “I met Barack Obama, I read his book, I like him a great deal.”
Is this guy a 14 yr old girl?
Posted by: CL | February 13, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Advisers to McCain are like wives. He’ll just dump him and get a younger, richer advisor.
Posted by: Jace in MO | February 13, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
Sen. McCain should fire McKinnon.
As far as BHO and HRC…I have nothing to say. Let them fight. Hillary Clinton is not going to give it up until she’s mathematically eliminated, and she could be back ahead in two weeks.
Posted by: Aln | February 13, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
F. Melgin wrote: “Democrats are all about themselves”?! Yeah, if by “themselves” you mean “the majority of America! Romney in 2012?! If he couldn’t win against pitiful John McCain this year, what makes you think he could win against anyone any year?
OK y’all, amusing comments. See ya in November, when America votes in a Democrat to the Oval Office!
Posted by: pakaal | February 13, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
McCain voted for torture today…flip-flopper. McCain voted to allow private companies to violate the 4th Amendment…Unamerican.
Most people never read George Orwell. He wrote of authoritarianism coupled with complacency.
Fearmongers are afraid. Hope mongers move to make the world better. Take your pick, read the issues at their websites (wow, you mean they really do talk about tangibles?), then vote your conscience.
Posted by: Sam | February 13, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Pakaal, you state the obvious. McCain-democrat. Hillary-democrat. Obama-Democrat. Of course there will be one in November.
Posted by: Jace of MO | February 14, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
mckinnon like mccain and bush are secretly democrats.
they are liberals and always have been.
bush was even born on the YALE campus.
Posted by: deroy | February 14, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
Peter – take the 30-40% of social conservatives out of the GOP and you get to go back to the 40 years that ended with Bob Michel’s reign.
I guess if you like being a permanent minority party, then so be it, but, I guess your views are instructive to this fiscal and social conservative, in that I understand that you kind of want to be Democrat-lite, enjoy some of the chotchke’s that Nancy Pelosi tosses you, and sit back and watch the country decay away.
Maybe there’s some large consituency that’s going to replace ours, but, I don’t think you’re going to get it in the GOP you envision.
I like McCain, think he’s right on the war and most fiscal issues, and he’s a heck of a lot better than either Obama or Hillary.
Posted by: jay | February 14, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Jay – They are all weak on the border issue and this nation is doomed unless we can first stop and then start to reverse this invasion.
Maybe the American people would just be better off if we break up into different countries just as the USSR did. Nothing last forever.
Posted by: richard | February 14, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Can’t you guys recognize character when you see it? Mr. McKinnon said months ago that he would not make ads (that will inevitably go negative) against Obama. He respects him as a candidate and does not want to be a working part of a campaign that tries to knock him down. Take off the partisan lenses for one minute and recognize when someone follows through on a promise! Democrat or Republican, we should recognize when someone actually keeps their word.
Posted by: derek | February 14, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Sen. McCain has proven himself to be -on occasion – meaner than the proverbial junk-yard dog. That’s exactly what our next president must be to deal with the Islamofascists. So I will vote for him in the general election but I can’t say I will enjoy doing so.
Posted by: Olga | February 14, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
Sen. McCain has proven himself to be -on occasion – meaner than the proverbial junk-yard dog. That’s exactly what our next president must be to deal with the Islamofascists. So I will vote for him in the general election but I can’t say I will enjoy doing so.
Posted by: Olga | February 14, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
It sounds like McKinnon puts race above values. He ADMITS he disagrees with Obama on fundamental issues, agrees with McCain, but cannot then persue his values based on this knowledge. Well, some people vote for ‘best haircut,’ now it will be race over substance. What a country.
Posted by: Virginia beach | February 14, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
John McCain wasn’t my first choice, but considering Obama and Ma, he is who my family will vote for now. I still think Huckabee is a Clinton plant. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised.
Posted by: Richard | February 14, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
Ruthless truth is that Obama will win in a Landslide:
Focus on Senate and Congress
Save your energy for where we can win:
Get out and get behind your Senators and REPS
Face reality for a change
Posted by: letty | February 14, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
Do conservatives really think that the destruction of our economy, removal of our civil liberties, and decreased standing in the world is the fault of two years of Democratic majority and not the 6 previous years of a conservative Judiciary, Executive, and Legislature?
Are they really that delusional? Do they honestly believe that the massive corruption that has torn the country down is to blame on the people who couldn’t do anything about it?
Do they really believe that all of the halls of power are populated primarily by Democrats and not the corporate tax-cutting, lobbyist scandal drenched Republicans?
Wow. I guess Denial’s an art form for some people.
Posted by: Ed | February 14, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
How sick is this? Yeah, show us the way Osama. Your Ancestors can’t even get running water figured out but you can show the civilized world much. My race and culture sicken me now. How weak. Women prepare your children for slaughter and 3 rd world. It is coming.
Posted by: Mark Jaggers | February 14, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am
The GOP is in this awful mess thanks to Florida’s RNC’s ‘big guns’ endorsing McLame in the last minute to stop Romney, who was on a roll. (Robert Novak explains in his column how brother Jeb was behind the coup against Romney in /Florida, after it was obvious that their first choice, former NYC mayor, sank fast with his huge baggage of waste material.) Now the RNC is scrambling with this unappealing candidate. The champaign is already flowing in the camp of the DemoLeft.
Posted by: Tom | February 14, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am
2 words — Mark Fuhrman. This dude probably said the ‘N’ word on tape somewhere. Sounds like if that emerges it would really be bad for McCain. Note to self, don’t say racist crap on tape. Just a theory, but something is real fishy about this. Although, why not just resign quietly. I’m scratching my head. And I love Obama.
Posted by: Dave | February 14, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am
All you idiots yammering about Bush and how awful his administration is never seem to understand that a president can’t get very far without good support from congress. Everyone knows how ugly the democraps have been towards Bush. They lie all the time and can’t keep their campaign promises. Bush could have used some help, not the foul badmouthing from Pelosi and Reid and others of their ilk.
Posted by: Russ | February 14, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am
Poor McCain dont have his guns and bullets like when he went to vietnam.
To bail him out on this one ,So it will get ugly when Obama bring out that HARVARD artillery in debates,BTW.. he did gives us a glimpse.. when he sent flip flop Romeny on his way by calling him a “ineffective candidate”.
Posted by: johhny blaze | February 14, 2008, 3:34 am 3:34 am
You really have to be nuts;to let this ole coot carry on the BUSH Urban civil
war policy in Iraq,which we have no business being in,and it will continue to drain billions and further sink our economy.Poor obama will have to come in and keep the boat afloat;by putting back those jobs that was lost and put a freeze on those people losing their homes.However he is a guy we can all rally around.
Posted by: sally heinz | February 14, 2008, 3:48 am 3:48 am
watching obama march to the whitehouse is truly going be like the movie ~the truman Show ~ we really dont know what will happen.
Posted by: p.w | February 14, 2008, 3:56 am 3:56 am
How stupid!
Posted by: Super Nintendo | February 14, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am
Look at @olga , is going fall for the boogeyman man tactics that the Republicans always play ; with slogans like ” dont look in your bedroom closet a terrorist is there” and some voters fall for it hook line and sinker , if this country was so protected.. then why is our borders not secure.The REP party have nothing good to offer the american people but FEAR.
Posted by: terror_alert_robots | February 14, 2008, 4:06 am 4:06 am
And Huckabee forced this McCain down our throats.
Posted by: WakeWashington | February 14, 2008, 4:33 am 4:33 am
I’m against direct personal attacks on a political opponent.
But I support direct political “attacks” to inform or define the differences between the candidates.
The problem is that there isn’t any definition of a what a negative ad is.
To the candidate being attacked, they are all negative.
To the media, it depends. If the Republican is being attacked, that’s OK. If the Democrat is being attacked, tthat’s negative advertising.
McCain’s problem is Mark McKinnon doesn’t know the difference between a personal and a political attack.
Posted by: FMB | February 14, 2008, 6:15 am 6:15 am
“All you idiots yammering about Bush and how awful his administration is never seem to understand that a president can’t get very far without good support from congress. Everyone knows how ugly the democraps have been towards Bush. They lie all the time and can’t keep their campaign promises. Bush could have used some help, not the foul badmouthing from Pelosi and Reid and others of their ilk.”
Really Russ, do I have to respond to you?
Did you forget that the Repubs owned all three branches of government until 2006? And all they could seem to get done was giving out big cash refunds to rich white boys.
A new day dawns in America, and will see the end of the polotics of the rich built on the backs of the poor. And if America is destroyed it will be because narrow minded white man can’t bear the idea that anyone but them can lead this nation.
“Go get the rope and the guns ma, one of them der darkies is in the White House”.
Posted by: TTLC | February 14, 2008, 6:39 am 6:39 am
TTLC, oh my you are caustic. You seem to forget the obstructions the Democrat minority threw into the mix while the Repubs had the majority. Were it not for the gas prices and housing market issues, this country would have a pretty robust economy; and don’t go blaming the gas issue on anyone else than ALL of our fine public servants in D.C. who do more effusing of hot air than actual work for the People.
If we all spent less time blaming and more time fixing, this nation would be so much better off. Look at the Katrina issue. It was good political fodder to score brownie points against Bush; but years later, it is still bad and that is because the rest of the politicians (who should have gotten blamed) have done nothing more than puff hot air.
Posted by: American | February 14, 2008, 6:57 am 6:57 am
Its very difficult for a white candidate to campaign against a black candidate without being called a racist. Even if your name is Bill Clinton and blacks worshipped you for 2 decades. Except Obama to try this against McCain as well.
Posted by: Dennis D | February 14, 2008, 7:05 am 7:05 am
Seems to put John McCain’s “reaching across the isle” in a new perspective. Any reaching involved would have to be to the Republican side.
Posted by: Bob | February 14, 2008, 7:35 am 7:35 am
If Huckabee can hold on long enough and in the process deny McCain the delegate count to clinch the nomination, we conservatives can force a floor fight at the convention and nominate someone other than this politically-befuddled crackpot!
Posted by: BlueMax372 | February 14, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am
Heck, McCain is such a liberal he probably will vote for Obama too.
Posted by: Joe H | February 14, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am
easy victory for mc cain
can you say trillion dollar reparations ;) Obama better cry to his mama
but he is too liberal for the mainstream
of course he is winning now he is preaching to the choir
i bet the republicans are tickled to face someone so far off the beaten path,
talking badly about Washington that’s a first for a politician
Posted by: dumdum | February 14, 2008, 7:54 am 7:54 am
No surprise that McCain surrounds himself with people who are as wishy washy as he is.
Posted by: MichWolverine | February 14, 2008, 8:02 am 8:02 am
I’m shocked, shocked I say, to learn that Bush has been hiring Democrats to help him run and sell his domestic policies.
How Compassionate can you get?
Posted by: Eureka | February 14, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am
… open your mouth, and remove all doubt. Remember?!
JCarter
Posted by: Jackson R. Carter | February 14, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am
As a lifetime conservative / republican that has been forced by the current political environment to morph into a Libertarian, let me say , John McCain will never get my vote.
Posted by: chris a | February 14, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am
As much as I disagree with Hillary, I think her presidency could be survivable. But if Obama wins, with so much at stake, I’m moving to Canada
Posted by: Ted | February 14, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am
I believe it was in June of last year that Mr. McKinnon let Sen McCain know that he would not be willing/able to work against Sen. Obama, as Mr. Obama’s candidacy was a unique and historic moment for the nation. Here’s a quote from Lech Walesa: He who sticks out his hand to stop the wheels of time will get his fingers crushed. I saw Pres. Reagan’s son make an interesting comment last night: it’s dangerous for the dems to put up a candidate who’s plainly like less than the other one. Not that likability is enough, but with platforms not so far apart, you’d rather have someone the people LIKE. Sen. McCain seems to have a bit of the same problem within his own party.
Posted by: Carthage | February 14, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am
I see. So what McKinnon seems to be suggesting is that if you are a white presidential candidate and run a vigorous campaign against a black or hispanic opponent you are a racist, and so is anyone who advises you or assists you in any way. Nice.
By the way, when the Fairness Doctrine returns, will NPR have allow rebuttals by Sean Hannity?
Posted by: civic99 | February 14, 2008, 8:41 am 8:41 am
These people are gushing about a man who is saying absolutely nothing, but saying it very well. Obama needs to be revealed for what he is, vapor. His veneer is actually very thin, and the Repubs (and the country) need a candidate and a team than can carefully expose him on substance.
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Posted by: JJV | February 14, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am
McCain doesn’t stand a chance against Obama!! The only Republican fit to beat the democrats because of conservative issues is Ron Paul!!! You really should take a closer look at Ron Paul. McCain’s record in general is too tarnished for anyone to believe a word that comes out of his mouth!!
Posted by: RP supporter | February 14, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am
I a 37 years old and voted in my first election in 1988. I am a conservative democrat. I have always been so frustrated with the left wing of the democratic party/moveon.org/code pink crowd, embarrassing. I am amazed how liberals think. Look at the eletion of Joe Lieberman in CT who couldn’t win the democratic primary but still won the election. Liberals proved their point in nominating Ned Lamont..how well did that work out in the general election? Democrats are misreading the election results from 06. If you are a liberal and voted for a democtrat, of course you were voting to end the war. the rest of non-liberal America was not. I was against the war in Iraq from the beginning, however we are there now and it’s in the USA’s interest to try and get Iraq right. Democrats are invested in failure in Iraq. If Obama wins the primary his message of hope won’t sound so great when he starts getting challenged on troop withdrawals and being confronted with the slaughter of Iraqis. For anyone who cares, if Obama gets elected, his troop withdrawals will coincide with the Iraqi’s going to the polls. As David Brooks said, the blood of them will be on a Democratic president’s head, So much for hope in his first year as president. then again I think he’s too liberal and will go the way of a Ned lamont in the general election. Believe me, as a life long democrat from NY can’t vote for him, he’s in trouble.
Posted by: Chris | February 14, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am
@ Chris 8:47 am.
“If you are a liberal and voted for a democtrat, of course you were voting to end the war. the rest of non-liberal America was not.”
A) you need to work on your spelling and sentence structure.
B) 68% of America favors withdrawal from Iraq within 1 to 2 years. So I’m not really sure which “non-liberal” majority you are talking about.
Stating red-state talking points does not make you correct.
Posted by: ckt | February 14, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
McCain’s a lib?
Does that make President Bush a bald faced liar for calling McCain a conservative?
Posted by: paul | February 14, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
Experienced policy makers have come and gone, making decisions that have turned out to be huge mistakes in hindsight. None of these expert’s mistakes have collapsed this nation, but it has led to the slow growth of apathy and divisiveness among Americans.
Obama can inspire an attitude adjustment affecting a broad spectrum. This is so much more important than policies on health care or Iraq. We need to unite. But unfortunately, there are a lot of ‘manly’ Americans who just love a good fight, and love to be the winners.
Posted by: Jed | February 14, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am
I hate top say it ladies and gents but the future is absolutley dismal in all reguards.
Mcain had better buck up and toss this weak Nancy overboard without hesitation.
MIt is also vital,,,,VITAL that Mcain takes O to the mat on funemental coservative principals, for if he goes head to head with O on any principals that even have a wiff of being the same then Mcain will be beaten like a drum.
The bright side to this is that O is a near bumbling idgit without his telepromter so going head to head in a debate could be Mcains main strength just as long as he stands strong on a very diferent message other than….hope, which is simply a word for Euro socialism, flat out surrendering to AQ, our National security/Intell abilities will go straight into the crapper.
The MILITARY will be reduced and demoralized to a near point of the pull out of Vietnam for not letting them finish the job that they know they are capable of.
O is the anti Reagan, speeches that make people feel good about themselves with the major difference that O is anti american with socialist views where Reagan made Americans feel good and busted his hump to put the people in positions to better themseleves as Americans,Reagan also never refused to wear an American flag pin or hold his hand over his heart dueing the National anthem which that in itself speaks volumes about the anti Americanisim that O obviously has being he doesnt do either.
Posted by: Drider | February 14, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
I have never voted for a democrat for president, I have voted for the independent once or twice, but I will say Obama has handled his campaign so far with absolute class. Integrity is not something that can be turned on and off when it’s convenient. If he wins the presidency,the democrats will not get a 2/3 majority, maybe the angry tone in this great country will start to take the high road, like Obama!
Posted by: chris a | February 14, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
Remeber Michael Dukakis was 15% ahead after the convention, what happened to him. People are fickle with polls. the Democrats have not been challenged on their troop withdrawals because they all agreed. Pulling out of Iraq will be a losing message. Read David Brooks article you might learn something. GO CODE PINK!!!
Posted by: Chris | February 14, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am
Alright, enough of this “white Guilt” crap. Obama is 50% WHITE – mom is Irish and very white (pale). This guy is as Irish as my children (1/2 irish, 1/2 polish). As an Illinioian,once he is the candidate and the MSM starts to look at his past voting record(won’t happen) in the ILL assembly it will become obvious to all that this Irishman doesn’t stand for anything. He doesn’t believe in anything so strongly that he will stand-up for or against it (ie: present votes vs yes or no).
Posted by: Jimbob | February 14, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am
btw Hillary or Joe Biden were the only hopes the Democrats had, but again in a caucus 1% of the population votes. I will give code pink people credit they are dedicated. Also, what will Obama do when asked by McCain about his Moveon.org endorsement? remember General Betrayus,. I can here the republican machine warming up to running against the most Liberal senator in the USA.
Posted by: Chris | February 14, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am
Maybe, MCCain will step aside with his Ad Man and back Obama, they to have many positions in common also.
Posted by: Willie | February 14, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
Bill Clinton won because he wrestled control of the democratic party from the left wing. The left wing is now back in control. Where are all the other conservative Democrats??? May be waiting to vote for McCain in the general election?? I guess that’s where I need to put my money and vote.
Posted by: Chris | February 14, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am
How will Obama’s stand on giving drivers licenses to illegal aliens do in the genealr election? Living in New York a very liberal state, our govenor tried this. I think his approval ratings are still around 30%.
Posted by: Chris | February 14, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am
LOL… Good job guys. You really know how to pick’em. Oh yeah, John McCain strikes fear into the hearts of democrats. That stalwart champion of the GOP, John McCain the Maverick/Establishment candidate. When Obama the Clinton Slayer wins in a landslide, Don’t blame me I voted for Mitt.
Posted by: Justy | February 14, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am
why is it that the worst republican always beats the best democrat? It will happen again this november.
Posted by: randy | February 14, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
Fact of the matter. Senator Obama has substance. Just because the media has chosen to neglect his years of experience as a state legislator (1996-2004) and rather focus on his shorter experience as a US senator (2004-present) does not mean lack of anything(ignoring something does not vaporize it, fact of life!!).
SO, all those people believing that senator Obama lacks substance and should be exposed need to think again. Certain people want America to think he lacks substance and think that if they say it long enough, then enough people who aren’t paying attention or trying to find the truth will accept it. But America has been burned one too many times in the past by misinformation and lies and so they are checking facts and finding the truth for themselves!!!
Posted by: Reasonably So | February 14, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
CONSERVATIVES… Please take a look at the difference in costs of the proposed CHANGES! If either Clinton or Obama get elected, and HALF of their proposed CHANGES are enacted… ALL YOU WILL HAVE LEFT IS CHANGE… Pocket Change!
I too was going to stay home this election, until I started looking at what the Democrats are proposing. Now, I have decided to vote for McCain. If the either Democrat gets elected, I guess I will retire, buy a house well above my means, and ride the gravy train by no longer being a taxpayer. Of course once our military is seriously diminished, and we are attacked here at home again, what good will the gravy train serve.
Posted by: Rck | February 14, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
What’s McKinnon afraid of having to say? That Obama is a Communist leaning Liberal that has no achievements in Congress other than starting his presidential bid immediately after taking office and using his empty populist rhetoric to capture the fancy of the wistful masses yearning to “feel good” about America after 8 years of the Media and the Democrats and our international enemies droning on about how evil we are? Naaaaah, couldn’t be that.
Posted by: davecatbone | February 14, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
The confusion of the adviser is a symptom of the confusion of the candidate. McCain never could decide whose side he was on either. Republicans have literally ended up with their weakest candidate. Well, once America is over the messiah syndrome hopefully common sense will return next time.
Posted by: Roy | February 14, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am
This is a constant theme. I disagree with Obama on key issues, he is void of substance, but he makes me feel good.
This is what we have become? We are going to bury this country in socialist type debt because the guy doing it makes you feel good?
I think we are living the last best days in this country, and it is sinful that uneducated people will put this guy in out of white guilt? Yikes!
Posted by: Ron | February 14, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am
Obama = Jimmy Carter
If Mccain isn’t close to Ronald Reagan I will be happy…so
McCain = Eisenhower I will take that
Eisnehower was accussed of being too liberal of a republican
Posted by: Chris | February 14, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am
The democrats list the economy in most polls as their #1 worry. Electing a liberal anti-capitalist as president (OBAMA) is the very best thing to do if you want the economy to completely fall apart. Just goes to show how uninformed and ignorant democrat voters are. WISE UP FOOLS.
Posted by: Randy | February 14, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
Another election in which the only choice is the lesser of two evils. A republican will always be the better choice in this case.
Posted by: common sense independent | February 14, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Randy you are right that liberals will be a disaster, but nothing is better for the economy than a consevative democrat: ) there’s just none left :/
Posted by: Chris | February 14, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
It’s always discouraging to me to see the kind of racism Mark McKinnon displays here. How are African-Americans ever to achieve equality if they can’t freely participate in the rough-and-tumble of American politics and the other aspects of our culture?
Dr. King wanted Barack Obama to be judged by the content of his character. I understand that McKinnon is concerned that, once thoroughly scrutinized, Sen. Obama’s character will be lacking in the extreme. However, it is just and right that Sen. Obama be evaluated just as an American of any other skin color would be and his many weaknesses exposed.
It is more racist to refuse to acknowledge that the Emperor has no clothes and is in fact an empty suit.
Posted by: John Fairplay | February 14, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
The race thing is a joke. I was watching CNN as a pundit before the SC primary was discussing how black women will vote. He said he spoke to several and they said they would vote their race and not their gender. No one on the CNN panel even flinched when this racist statement was made. It was like that was a completely resaonable thing for a black woman to say.
Posted by: Chris | February 14, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
What would the media being saying about Americans if whites were voting for Hillary 80-90%. Blacks do that for Obama and that’s cool, understandable, and if you mention that fact you’re the racist(aka Bill Clinton). I also heard Tim Russert say if you bring up OHB’s cocaine use you’re race baiting…this is nuts!
Posted by: Chris | February 14, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
Here is what democrats stand for…
ABORTION, the killing of human beings while still in the wombs of their mothers. SICK
What’s ironic is that women in this country, the supposedly more compassionate of the two sexes, have killed more human life in 40 years than men have killed in ALL the wars the United States has fought in COMBINED and MULTIPLIED by 10.
Democrats also claim to be more compassionate and fully support abortions… the killing of a woman’s unborn baby.
Our country’s Bill of Rights claims that ALL men are CREATED equal and are endowed by the CREATOR with certain UNALIENABLE rights. The first of which is the RIGHT to LIFE.
OBAMA and CLINTON support the killing of our babies in their mother’s wombs. Our society is sick and perverted. The cancer has spread to all 50 states and the patient is terminal.
Posted by: Anonymous | February 14, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
hillary or obama running our economy makes as much sense as a porcupine in charge of a balloon factory; or bill clinton mentoring young interns. I know these analogies are simplistic, but maybe it will help brain dead democrats see how utterly moronic it would be to put obama or hilarity in the whitehouse.
Posted by: osama for obama '08 | February 14, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am
Just count this as one of many “I told you so” moments that RUSH will be having. He TOLD you McCain was a Liberal. He TOLD you he surrounded himself with Democrates, he told you he was playing with the wrong crowd. It’s all coming back to bite the GOP. This should be no surprise to us conservatives. This is how the Dems play. The McKinnin guy is a DEM and he is RINO’S top advisor!!
Posted by: Momaduke | February 14, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
I love it when Hitlery claims she her husband the rapist were responsible for the dot.com boom in the 90′s that drove the economy.
I would love for you socialists out there that support Hitlery or Hussein Obama to inform us exactly what policies the Clinton’s enacted during his terms that turned the economy around?
… it’s sad when you believe that government should be allowed to control a free-market economy.
Posted by: dumbass liberal | February 14, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
Has anyone even REALLY checked out McCain? He is a globalist,so is Obama and Hillary. Google CFR and see if we don’t end up with North American Union. Huckabee and Ron Paul are the only ones against this. This is serious stuff folks
Posted by: kim | February 14, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
I’m used to liberal boards. This is a lot different. I guess ABC is conservative. The big difference is that in this board, more people are thinking of things that they are going to lose, mainly money from taxes. It seems that conservatives are a lot more selfish, and don’t like to think of the big picture.
Posted by: white male | February 14, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
Government “controlling” a free-market economy? You mean kind of like what Republicans do with oil subsidies and grants for agriculture? And how most Republicans fell lock-step behind Bush and his “stimulus” package?
Yeah… it works both ways, d.l. I’m just an honest Republican pointing out the obvious. The minute fellow Republicans decide to stop propping up the antiquated oil industry and bailing out banks, then I’ll start believing they actually favor a “free-market.” Until then, they’re all just talk.
Posted by: gb8898 | February 14, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
I guess you are a supporter of the stimulus package in which they give tax rebates to people who don’t pay taxes…$300…which we have to borrow from the Chinese. It’s called fiscal responsibilty. Who’s selfish? Are our kids going to paying for all these things?
Posted by: Chris | February 14, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
“How will Obama’s stand on giving drivers licenses to illegal aliens do in the genealr election?”
If Osama wins there will be no more illegals. Barack Hussien Obama is the worst thing that America can “hope” for.
Evil man is he.
Posted by: John Romano | February 14, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
I don’t believe in the stimulus package. We wouldn’t be in debt, if bush didn’t start the war. I would pay 40% in taxes if I new that my kids and I would have health care, and education paid for
Posted by: white male | February 14, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
I am Dem supporter but if HRC is not nominated you GOP gotta unite. America cannot afford to have a president who live by speeches and rhetoric! the stake is too high! I know McCain doesn’t behold many of conservative credentials but he is still by a million miles better and more reliable than Obama.
Posted by: AL | February 14, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
“ALL YOU WILL HAVE LEFT IS CHANGE… Pocket Change!”
Wow, I didn’t know anyone actually even *read* Mallard Fillmore, much less quoted its “wit”. We have a real intellectual heavyweight on our hands, here.
Posted by: Jen | February 14, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
“I would pay 40% in taxes if I new that my kids and I would have health care, and education paid for”
Make it 45% so you can go back to school to. Who new “White Male” needed more schoolin’
Posted by: Black Mail | February 14, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
why does everybody bring up obama’s middle name like it is a bad thing. I don’t get it. It’s just a name. How old are you people.
Posted by: white male | February 14, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Al well said. I agree Obama is not an option and I am sure the rigt wingers will get it.
Posted by: Chris/conserv dem | February 14, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
White male: We bring up W’s middle name Hillary RODHAM clinton, I hope using Obama’s name is now not race baiting.
Posted by: Chris/conserv dem | February 14, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Hi. I have my fair share of student loans. Right now my children have state health care here in illinois, Best insurance ever, thats to Obama. It’s nice to know that if your child gets sick, you don’t have to worry if it will be covered or not. I pay no co-pays. Even so, I have to pay >$20,000 a year in services not covered, for my son who has autism. but that’s a whole other story.
My other question is this. What are your biggest fears about socialism.
And how many of you are paid to write on this board??
Posted by: white male | February 14, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
Well, his middle name is “Hussein”, not “Hosein”, if your political dialogue is at the level of
ZOMG HE’S A SCARY BROWN TERR’IST you can at least bother to spell your demagoguery right! Who’s afraid of a “Hosein”?
Posted by: Jen | February 14, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
No chris, you know what i mean. Hillary “Rhodam” clinton and Barrack “Husain” Obama are very different things
Posted by: white male | February 14, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
I’m very bad at spelling, And chris and jen are smart enough to know that we used gwb middle initial to avoid confusion
Posted by: white male | February 14, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Again I don’t get why Barak doesn’t get more questions on cocaine use. Bill Clinton was tortured over smoking pot. A supreme court judge that reagan nominated had to drop out for pot… I guess when Tim Russert said it’s race baiting to bring up Barak’s drug use because he admitted it in his book, the Left wing has decided to pass on this and God knows what else…McCain and the republicans hopefully will.
Posted by: Chris/conserv dem | February 14, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
CKT – I looked at Obama and his so called Plan for America. It’s a load of crap. It’s a fairy tale of promises. It’s full of what he will give & do for the American people without saying how he would pay for it in most cases. On health care – well if the employer doesn’t offer a good package, he will just have to take it out of employers payroll contributions – another hand in the pocket of the productive risk takers.
On Social Security …. his record – He gave a speach in front of the National Press Club? He states that he voted for and against bills (note – he didn’t say he sponsored any bills on the subject) and he is not too sharp on how to actually fix this coming train wreck.
I’ll tell you how I would fix social security …..I’d end it. I’d tell the American people that the people in congress has been pulling a fast one on them just to stay in power. How many times will the american people buy this “chicken in every pot and 40 acres and a mule” scam that both parties play? Nothing in the so-called US Constitution identifies social security or universal health care.
Posted by: richard | February 14, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
That’s why Huckabee WILL be our next President. Don’t you people get it?? The media is setting this race up for an Obama win. McCain will NEVER win against Obama!!! At least if it’s Huckabee verses Obama it will be a real race to the White House but it ain’t over till it’s over no matter what the media says!!!!!
Posted by: CT | February 14, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
White male, they’re doing it because they assume the entire country has approximately the same IQ that they do. So far, it has worked, well, not at all. It’s to be mocked, not worried about.
Posted by: Jen | February 14, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
Thanks white male, but it’s his name and it is what it is…these are the issues that he will face in a general election HRC was the dems only chance..
Posted by: Chris/conserv dem | February 14, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
“Again I don’t get why Barak doesn’t get more questions on cocaine use.”
Because he admitted to it, candidly, in a book he wrote a number of years ago, Dreams From My Father. It’s clearly something he hasn’t done in over 20 years, so who really cares? Not the young folks voting for him. It’s the coverups and denial that make everybody bonkers. Everybody knew GWB did cocaine, but he wouldn’t talk about it, so the press just kept talking about it for him. Duh.
Posted by: Jen | February 14, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
the only reason I am staying a democrat is because of Health care. A party that will nominate Barak is too liberal for me.
I work in health Care..It is broken and the Republicans are dead wrong on this issue.
Posted by: Chris/conserv dem | February 14, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
“these are the issues that he will face in a general election HRC was the dems only chance..”
So, his “issue” is what his parents named him. I’m pretty sure he can handle that “issue”. Thanks for the concern trolling about Hillary, anyway.
Posted by: jen | February 14, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
So jen, you write a book and admit to something and so therefore you shouldn’t have to answer questions? He chomps on gum like crazy because he just quit smoking. Does he have a complusive disorder? an addictive personality?
Posted by: Chris/conserv dem | February 14, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
“Who new”
First rule of mocking people for being dumb, don’t misspell second-grade words.
This Lesson in Trolling has been brought to you by Reading is Fundamental.
Posted by: Jen | February 14, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
So jen, you write a book and admit to something and so therefore you shouldn’t have to answer questions?
You shouldn’t have to answer questions? Who’s asking questions that he’s not answering? It’s just human psychology. “So, you used cocaine, huh?” “Yep. Young and stupid.” That pretty much covers it. It’s not exactly Ph.D. level psychology to point out that admitting to things kind of takes the sting out of their value as an attack.
If you were able to ask him inanities like whether he has a “compulsive disorder”, he’d probably answer that, too. I’m guessing most people have more substantive things they’d rather discuss.
Posted by: Jen | February 14, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
This is so premature that McCain will even get the nomination.
Ron Paul is still in the race!
Posted by: Jeff | February 14, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Jen is another spell checker and equates typing skills with intelligence. I have one question for Barak supporters. He says he’s going to unite the country and move it forward, red and blue states become purple. My democratic govenor of NY won in a landslide. He’s been in office less then 2years. He like Barak support giving drivers licenses to illegal aliens. After Govenor Spitzer, a democrat in a Liberal state tried this, his approval ratings are now around 30%.
Once John McCain starts pointing out how liberal Barak is, what makes any of believe this garbage Barak says. Another politician ran on a similar platform, “I am a united not a divider” George Bush. He was full of it just like Barak. just look at these boards, he’s united nothing so far except code pinker’s, moveon.orger’s and the liberal media.
Posted by: Chris/conserv dem | February 14, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
The point Jen is who is Tim Russert to say questioning Barak about cocaine use is a race baiting? How many times has HRC been asked the same questions over and over again. The point is he’s never asked because it’s considered race-baiting.
the liberal media now can’t stop talking about John Mccains age. Has John McCain denied being 71, so why do they keep talking about it…age discrimnation is alive and well, but drug use is cool.
Posted by: Chris/conserv dem | February 14, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Oh, Chris/conserv dem/black mail, you’ve misspelled Barack’s name consistently and I haven’t pointed it out yet. I only point it out when you accuse people of being dumb. Remember that sign “GET A BRAIN MORANS”? See? Irony? Damn, I wish Republicans hadn’t killed irony, wrapped it in chains, put its feet in cement, and sunk it into Lake Superior.
George Bush *is* a uniter. He’s united 70% of the country against him. It just took him a little longer.
As for Obama, I bet these guys would be surprised to learn that they’re in Code Pink.
http://www.republicansforobama.org/?q=homepage
Posted by: Jen | February 14, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Gotta love the comment about McCain appointing Vladimir Putin.
The Russian’s would prefer a Repulican victory as long as it is not that Kremlin critic John McCain.
They don’t like Democrats, it reminds them too much of communism.
Posted by: Reality | February 14, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
Good grief, these things are so ridiculously elementary. People aren’t asking him about his age (72, btw) because they’re ageist, it’s because he’s running for president. His health, fitness, and life expectancy are kind of relevant to whether or not he can do the job for 4 to 8 years. He seems to be pretty energetic and in good health to me, so I don’t care so much, but age and health concerns have ALWAYS been brought up. Remember Dick Cheney and his four heart attacks or whatever it was? Ronald Reagan showed signs of Alzheimer’s before he left office, for pete’s sake. Cocaine use in college is much less relevant to your current ability to do the job. These things should be completely obvious.
Posted by: Jen | February 14, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
Who cares about Obama using drugs when he was, as Jen pointed out, “young and stupid?” We were all young and stupid once, remember? We ALL know Mr. Bush had various substance abuse problems when he was younger. Now he exercises like crazy. Is that because he has a “compulsive disorder?” Get over it.
Frankly, I’m more interested in the mistakes the candidates have made RECENTLY–as adults. Things like, you know, Iraq? Most of the people running this country are OLD AND STUPID. This has a much bigger impact on our nation, since the young and stupid aren’t holding the reins of power.
Posted by: gb8898 | February 14, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Wow… I wish I had a dollar for every Repub here whose head exploded over this, I’d be quite wealthy, and happy to be taxed at 40% because I’d already have enough money to live well without being a greedy tard.
And as for the evils of socialism, um… we have been allies with evil socialists for over 50 years, and they have a higher level of education and standard of living than we do.
If you enjoy overpriced and underperforming healthcare, world record deficits, and all your tax dollars going to war, please, vote for St. “Hundred Years War” McCain. And then go back to your ever so profitable meth labs, yokels.
Posted by: Thucydides Junior | February 14, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Chris – Health care was broken when the federal gvt became involved in paying the bills. Our gvt has zero business in that business.
The true American gvt (designed by our forefathers) ended with the North’s victory over the South wherein the standing fed gvt imposed it’s will over the soverign states by use of military might. Another large turning point was the change to the constitution that turned the senate into a smaller member version of the house of reps…….that stood the entire framework of Congress on it’s ear.
Why this Nation would still celebrate the 4th of July is a mystery to me……..it has nothing to do with this present nation at all. I guess it’s done because the people have forgotten it’s history.
Posted by: richard | February 14, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
I think we need to find a true Muslim to run for President and hope he wins. That way, the Muslims who hate us will become our friends and they will know all the secret information we have about everyone and we won’t be able to use it against these folks who hate us. That would stop that awful torture against our enemies, too, since we wouldn’t have any enemies! I think it’s a great idea, all we have to do is find someone to run as a Muslim… mmmm where can we find someone like that?
Posted by: adna | February 14, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
“Because he admitted to it, candidly, in a book he wrote a number of years ago, Dreams From My Father. It’s clearly something he hasn’t done in over 20 years”
Jen, you in no way can prove Obama doesn’t snort a line or two to relieve stress every now and then.
He probably doesn’t but you can’t prove it.
You Osama sheeple are hilarious.
Posted by: John Romano | February 14, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Why would McCain have a Democrat as advisor anyway? I thought he was a Republican.
Snicker, snicker.
Posted by: Sally | February 14, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
LOL all the people who have no problems with OHB’s cocain use I am sure were up in arms over GWB’s DWI. I am sure you all didn’t want Reagan’s nominee to the supreme court either who tried pot, because it was the liberals who sunk him too.
There’s been rumors GWB tried cocaine, never proof but it was always libs pushing the story. If GWB did abuse coke may be that explains some things, we just don’t need the left wing version of him. Right wingers and left wingers are so hypocritical on these issues. How about the same standard for both parties. all drug use is not an issus as long as you stopped it.
Posted by: Chris/conserv dem | February 14, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
Good lord Richard – will you all ever stop grieving over the Rebellion? You lost. The South couldn’t even put shoes on its soldiers because the Confederate states couldn’t agree on what to send to whom – you want that kind of military? Good riddance to the Confederacy I say, good riddance. Hooray for April 9th!
And if you don’t think the Constitution was SUPPOSED to be changed over time, then why were amendments allowed in the first place? Should we revoke the 19th amendment as well? Ask yer wife first. Or maybe the 2nd Amendment? Ask the NRA on that one.
I get so tired of the yokels and their tired arguments. Where were they when Dubya started all this spying on folks and grasping power as the unitary executive? But they stay mad the Confederacy lost 140 years ago. Please.
Posted by: Thucydides Junior | February 14, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
“People aren’t asking him about his age (72, btw) because they’re ageist, it’s because he’s running for president.”
But asking someone about using dope is race baiting?
Gimme a break, Jen people like you are why Hussein should never get into office.
You have a double standard about every issue.
Hussein = Good no matter what
Hillary, McCain, etc. = Hypocrit, dishonest, etc.
Pathetic.
Posted by: John Romano | February 14, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
Jen Ned lamont thought the same thing in CT, it’s how those poll questions are asked. Once John McCain points out how moronic it is, but bho does win, the blood will be on his hands at that point. John McCain’s point about 100years in Iraq was, Americans don’t care we have bases in Japan, Germany, Korea as long as our soldiers aren’t getting shot at. john Mccain’s point was if we do leave a stable democratic Iraq, why would a base be different there then it is in saudi Arabia or Kuwait which we already have…Turkey too
Posted by: Chris/conserv dem | February 14, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
The GOP is living in Disneyland, wishing on a star. That’s how much chance they have in November, and Mac’s manager knows it. In the primaries there has been 11 million GOP voters vs. 20 million Dem voters. November will be the biggest defeat for the GOP in the history of America. Fascism is dead again for another forty years.
Posted by: R.J. | February 14, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
Yeah! Yeah! “People like you” have a double standard about “every issue” !!! Every single one!!! and to have come upon this profound insight from a mere few sentences of commentary…amazing.
Some of these ridiculous, sophomoric posts amaze me. An advisor makes an ethical decision that makes rational sense – good for him. If you’re too much of a partisan hack to refrain from demonizing him for the heresy of viewing a liberal positively, then that’s on you – shame on you.
Posted by: Edsbowlingshoe | February 14, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
Chris/conserv dem: I’m a Republican, and I think we should get the hell out of Iraq. I’ve been against the war from the start, and I don’t give a rat’s you-know-what regarding the “poor” Iraqis.
If we split, and they decide to kill each other, I couldn’t care less. Those people have HATED each other for centuries. Why on earth would they just kiss and make up because we tell them to play nice? This is the inherent idiocy of our Iraq policy. We think an outside force will be able to militarily compel a sovereign nation to settle its civil war. Did anyone come in with troops to help settle our civil war?
Most Americans want our troops out now–that’s just a simple fact. Here’s another fact: David Brooks is one of the “spread democracy to all the lands” Republicans who has POISONED my party. He wants a glorious American empire, just like the people who believe as he does. In my mind, a cow’s opinion is worth more than his.
Posted by: gb8898 | February 14, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
Jen the holier than thou Demosheep has admitted on this page that she is bigoted against group homes.
Shame on you Jen.
I thought Democrats were tolerant of all views?
Or is it only positions you agree on?
Hypocrite.
And you have obviously done a lot of drugs or you wouldn’t be defending Osama so strongly.
Don’t worry your boss won’t find out and you won’t lose your mid-level marketing gig.
Posted by: John Romano | February 14, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
This mans utterance is unbelievable, disloyal and illtimed If he felt this way, he should have never signed up in the first place.
Get rid of him now before he becomes an issue in the General Election. And for future candidates regarding his hire: “Caveat Emptor”!
Posted by: Tim | February 14, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Hmm.. Maybe John Romano isn’t the smartest in the group home, either, in addition to that nasty stuff with the kittens. Well, it’s always fun having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent, but I’m going to turn it over to gb and Edsbowlingshoe and any other intelligent, bored folks out there. Peace –
Posted by: Jen | February 14, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
I just want to know what kind of Kool-Air they are giving out at Obama’s speeches. People come away like they are high. But you know what hanppens to people when they come down off a high? they regret some of their decisions and actions as a result of their being high.
Wake up people!! This is too cultish. He is so wanting to walk in MLK’s footsteps, he HOPES to DREAM. Well, that would be fine if he would stand for something other than emtpy rhetoric.
It’s like all those people who followed Jim Jones to Guyana and drank the Kook-AAid and died.
The MSM is giving him a pass, a big one!
Posted by: Susan | February 14, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Davie, why is it that if Clinton gets the superdelegates and the nomination, there will be riots in the streets. You do not hear any of this kind of talk from Hillary supporters. Now who is more mature ? If she doesn’t get the nomination, I will weigh the differences between Obamarama and McCain and see which foot I want to shoot myself in.
Posted by: KC | February 14, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
MCKINNON IS NOT BEING PAID. WHEN MCCAIN WAS LOW ON CASH MCKINNINON VOLUNTEERED TO DO HIS PR. HE IS BEST FRIENDS WITH PAUL BEGALA. HE IS ONLY OUT TO SELF PROMOTE AND WILL STEP OVER ANY BODY TO GET THERE…..HE HAS HURT CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS FOR SURE POWER AND SPITE. HE IS A MEAN MAN. MCCAIN SHOULD BE WARY OF A SUPPORTER WHO WILL BE DISLOYAL IN THE PRESS MANY TIMES OVER….AND IF OBAMA WINS HE SHOULD BE CAREFUL TOO…IF HE WOULD GIVE UP MCCAIN..HE WILL DO THE SAME TO OBAMA
Posted by: Linny | February 14, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
As vapid as an Obama candidacy may be, it is a wondrous thing to see Hillary DENIED! I wonder, will she overdose on sleeping pills after the convention, or will she take hostages in her campaign headquarters and commit suicide by cop? Or will she stay on as a US senator and spend 4 years employing her politics of personal destruction against Obama and his allies?
Posted by: civic99 | February 14, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Mike, even though I don’t agree that we would have a “Socialist nightmare”, I say, better a socialist nightmare from which I could awake than the inescapable fascist reality we now endure. Obama is maturing as a great leader daily. His speeches contain more and more substance as he goes forward. He has set a spark to the potential inferno that will sweep this country and set the agenda to repair the damage the venal Cheney cartel hath wrought. Obama says “Yes we can” and I say, yes we will.
Posted by: Jerry Waddle | February 14, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
The GOP needs to find someone else to run at their convention. McCain will get his behind kicked, especially if he surrounds himself with wimps. O-Bama is so transparent, and McCain’s guy doesn’t want to attack him on his records, etc…. Total wimp.
Posted by: Kevin Bannister | February 14, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Gb, I was against the war also, but that doesn’t help the current situation. As far as Iraq goes now.. McCain has by far the most credibility. If we pull before we can because bho had to listen to code pink, it will be a disaster. We kind of have a moral obligation to fix it since we did screw it up. We difinitely do not want to leave an afgahnistan behind us. If BHO does win and do all this, what message will that send to the terrorists? It’s hard to get info on Iraq now since things have gotten better. One piece of encouraging news is they had to use mentally handicapped women to blow themselves up, looks like we are starting to win and Al Quaeda is in trouble, they are having trouble finding people to willing blow themselves up. Seems to me BHO would be a shot of HGH for the terrorists.
Posted by: Chris/conserv dem | February 14, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
also what do all the pull out the troops now think of when Iran trys to fill the vacuum when we leave on one side and Saudi Arabia on the other? Will the Sunni/shiite conflict spread? Has BHO explained these things or even thought about it. Btw I have tried to like BHO speeches, they really aren’t that good, I am amazed people’s reactions to them.
Posted by: Chris/conserv dem | February 14, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
I try not to throw the term ‘clueless’ around a lot, but how can it be helped these days? McKinnon seems clueless. Didn’t he know what he signed up for when he hitched up to McKaine? And he’s enamored with Obama? Did Obamma really write his own book, or did some ghost writer? Is there any ‘beef’ under the obama ‘bun’? Is he a socialist, as I believe based on his website content? Does anyone actually ‘look’ at those websites for content? There’s a whole crop of the clueless out there on both sides of the aisle..in my humble opinion. Add the Huckabee drones into the mix. Those folks bought a ticket on the Titanic in my view, yet, they still remain at their posts. Clueless. How about those conservatives that won’t vote for McCain? Clueless. Someone out there…Please..persuade me that I’m wrong.
Posted by: Calirangr | February 14, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
BHO wants to sit and meet all the dictators that do no not like us in his 1st year in office. I can’t believe BHO gets a free ride this naive position. Scarry…
Posted by: Chris/conserv dem | February 14, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
“to repair the damage the venal Cheney cartel hath wrought.”
Not true now, not true then.
The biggest piece of Socialist propaganda ever is that Bush/Cheney have taken our “liberties”.
Name one way you personally have had your liberty abated by Bush and Cheney?
You can’t, now your group is changing the message to promote a Muslim sympathizer as President. Shame on you.
Posted by: John Romano | February 14, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Chris: The problem with your reasoning is that it sounds exactly like the Vietnam-era “Domino Theory.”
How can you be so sure that Iran and Saudi Arabia would rush into Iraq to take over if we left? How can you be certain the surge is even “working,” and not driving opposition forces underground? How can we be sure the terrorists in Iraq won’t just resurface once we scale back our troops?
If the only thing that maintains a modicum of “stability” is the presence of our troops in Iraq for the next century, losing a couple hundred every year to terrorist attacks, we have to ask ourselves whether it’s truly worth it–and whether it can be considered anything other than a failure.
Posted by: gb8898 | February 14, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
If conflict erupts between Iran,Iraq,Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait; the resulting oil production shortage would KILL our economy. By comparison, our current military costs are nothing! It wouldn’t just be $10/gallon gasoline. It would be true anarchy. You can’t replace production capacity anytime soon.
Posted by: Reality | February 14, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
If you have any respect and love for this country dem/rep you know the leader of the free world, the President of the United States of American should sit down directly with the likes of Ahmadinejad. This would soil the presidency and elevate a dictators stature on the world stage. In NY we wouldn’t allow him to visit the world trade center site, but BHO is going to lunch with him, may be Kim ill Jung join meet them.
Posted by: Chris/conserv dem | February 14, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Chris: We’re the strongest nation on the face of the earth. We shouldn’t be scared to sit down and argue with third-rate dictators and thugs around the world. It’s amazing to me that people quake in their boots because of idiots like Ahmadinejad and Castro and Chavez.
Folks, how long have we been “not talking” to Cuba? And how much closer is Cuba to being anything resembling a democracy? The more face-time we have with these morons, the more the rest of the world and their own people will see the stupidity of their leaders.
Posted by: gb8898 | February 14, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
gb, BHO hasn’t aswered what we are leaving behind, dispite my not liking this war, McCain was right. We needed more troops and things are getting better. McCain again said we would only stay if we make a stable Iraq, I don’t know if we can, but I know we can’t if we leave under BHO’s terms.
BTW Military leader of Taliban caught this week with #3 in Al Quaeda.
I voted for the Clintons and would vote for HRC. I was always amazed with how the right wing hated the Clintons and thought it reflects more poorly on teh haters. They never could see any good.
The LIBERAL dems are exactly the same way w/ Bush, they see no good. I think right now the only candidate that seems to be speaking honestly about what we face is JM. When it comes to discussing these issues BHO doesn’t have a chance. I am 37 and never have voted for a Republican for President, but OHB is not the answer
Posted by: Chris/conserv dem | February 14, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Reality: Everything is “If, if, if…” We can’t have a foreign policy based on “what ifs.” If we start down that road, we end up with chaos.
There will always be the outside chance that something bad could happen in any situation. If we’re going to keep trying to prevent every possible negative scenario, we’ll drive ourselves into bankruptcy, perpetual war, and police statism. That might sound ok to you, but I think the idea sucks.
Posted by: gb8898 | February 14, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
GB, it’s not about being afraid, but a dictator has no standing to sit down with president of the United states. all you are doing is deeming the office and elvating their’s.
this is not something you should have explained, it is just such common sense.
Posted by: Chris/conserv dem | February 14, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
May be living in NY you look at these issues differently. Taking the Long Island Railroad under the east river in tunnels, seeing the police with bomb sniffing dogs in Penn station, everyday in NY you realize this war is still on. As far as the domino therory of Vietnam, John McCain answered that. The Vietmenese didn’t want to follow us home.
Posted by: Chris/conserv dem | February 14, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Obama is the media darling and can do no wrong. So everybody just get used to it. He is a great orator, but has no substance. If Obama wins the democratic nomination and is elected president, the only change we will see is a visual one. JM should just get rid of this advisor guy real quick.
Posted by: lawzam | February 14, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
John McCain with a democratic advisor what a suprise – not
Posted by: Mark | February 14, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
That’s one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. He sounds like he thinks it would be like beating up on a retarded child. I’m nearly 50 and I’ve never known times like this where so many stupid people can rise to such positions of promininence.
Posted by: T. Galvin | February 14, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
All this “Im a repub and I never wanted our troops in Iraq” garbage is just that, garbage.
Alternate plans on how to deal with these countries that are WMD capable at the drop of a hat, support terrorizm and who are activley trying to bring down the USA are more than welcome to be heard but before you rack your brains too, too much the plan thats in place now is working like a charm and lookng better as time goes by despite the errors and/or blunders that occur in every war.
I suppose we could go Murtha/Obama and base our soldiers outside Iraq where they would become absolutley usless.
I for one “DID” care when we pulled outta Vietnam and left millions to be slaughtered by our enemies and I care even MORE that these weak spined poloticans would cut and run in the drop of a hat and not give a damn about those that we have sent much blood, treasure and time to get in a stance where they can carry on thier new government…..And still not give a damn about the bloodbath that will no doubt take place if we did get yanked out of there.
Not to mention that we have our forces right next door to Iran which can be useful for a myrad of reasons.
Then again if Iran does require nukes then I suppose a handful of marines based in Guam should be enough viable deterent to really be beneficial…..for anythinng.
I suppose we shoudnt give a damn about our allies and friends the Israeli’s either…Let Iran wipe them out in a mushroom cloud or two and the worlds problems are solved…..right?
Wrong, we remain loyal to our allies and stick it out and then move to the next problem area outside of Iraq if needed, sitting back and waiting for more attacks on US soil is a losing proposition.
Posted by: Drider | February 14, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
I was a little taken aback by McKinnon’s
remarks; liking a guy and wanting him to be president are two different things. It’s his choice of course, but Mark ought to recognize which side his bread is buttered and also what he really believes in. After all McCain has said he likes Clinton; so does that mean then that a McCain campaign won’t go full-bore after her in order to win? Politics ain’t bean-bag, Mark.
Posted by: Ron Cooney | February 14, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Mark McKinnon fully knew going into this race what the stakes were and now his true colors are on display for all of us. This is precisely the male mindsetof those who are supporting Obama, a lack of integrity toward their jobs, and the feeling of self-entitlement to ruining the reputations of others. If Mark McKinnon leaves the McCain Camp, McCain better not let him even work from the sidelines. I wouldn’t trust him. He’d probably go back on NPR and divulge McCain’s campaign strategies. First of all what the hell was he doing sharing the information on NPR to begin with?? What a creep
Posted by: melissa schneider | February 14, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Take note people: the three ‘top’ candidates (chosen for us, not by us) are all senators… the same jokers who are holding totally mindless hearings on baseball/steroids instead of dealing with SERIOUS issues facing our nation such as the sub-prime swindle they permitted the banksters to execute.
NOTHING WILL CHANGE WITH ANY OF THESE CLOWNS!
Posted by: TheChairman | February 14, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Drider: Please explain how Saddam and Iraq ever posed a direct threat to THE UNITED STATES. Our military is to be used for the defense of THIS COUNTRY and its Constitution. Read the oath sometime.
It’s a very convenient excuse for Republicans to now say the troops need to stay to prevent a “bloodbath,” but that’s all it is: an excuse. If we were actually worried about bloodbaths, we’d be in Darfur right now, and we Republicans wouldn’t have ragged on Clinton for the Bosnia mess. Right?
And for Chris, who still thinks we shouldn’t “lower ourselves” to talk to dictators, how do you explain our meetings with Saudi Arabian leaders? Or Reagan talking to the Soviet Union?
Republicans and conservative Democrats need to ask “What would Reagan do?” He sure as hell wouldn’t have invaded Iraq (did he invade the Soviet Union–a far greater threat?), and he sure as hell wouldn’t have put up with the notion that Americans should be spied upon by their government, all in the name of “security.” Today’s Republican party is the complete opposite of what it stood for even ten years ago, which is disgusting.
Posted by: gb8898 | February 14, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
A lot of people are racist and its sad.You need to focus all that energy and hatred on the real issues at hand(the war,immigration,economy). I’m an independent because I believe the best candidate should get the vote. With that in mind I’m backing Obama but if he doesn’t get the nod I’m voting for McCain.Either way it will be better then Bush whom I also voted for in the past.God Bless America…
Posted by: BSnow | February 14, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
When will the Republicans hire real Republicans to important positions as opposed to new immigrants from the Dem
party and the old Soviet bloc. What do we have here the continuing miniseries of The Manchurian Candidate
Posted by: Americano | February 14, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
Funny thing David, no one seems to mind saying Hilary Rodham Clinton, or George W. Bush. Why does it bother you so much. Can’t stand the name HUSSEIN?????
Get over it, it’s a fact. Just another thing the media doesn’t want to cover.Shame on you and the MSM>
Posted by: Susan | February 14, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Also Obama has outlined the way he will pay for programs he proposed.It was on CNN and Fox yesterday. It doesn’t include a tax increase unless you’re in the upper 1%.My household make a nice amount of $ and I wouldn’t mind 1 increase if its going to improve the country.
Posted by: BSnow | February 14, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
If Mccain quits the senate, they he will have done some good afterall.
QUIT THE SENATE NOW – MCCAIN!!!!!
Posted by: Jack Kennedy | February 14, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Obama has been attacking McCain for over two weeks now. Dirty, negative attacks. It’s time for Conservatives to start talking about Obama’s record, the record that will sink him.
Posted by: rory miller | February 14, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
You people are missing the forest throught the trees! Mark is just saying that he knows the campaign is going to inevitably take on a racial tone and he doesn’t want to be involved. All you democrats out there know for a fact that you will fall in line and declare any attack against Obama as racist.
Posted by: Are all of you issing the point here? | February 14, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Bsnow…… I’m in that upper 1% and if you and your family don’t mind paying more taxes then you can pay for mine. It’s the old class warfare played by the commies and pinko’s.
Nothing stops any of you liberals from sending in extra money to the fed gvt. Be my guest.
Look, all liberal programs are built on the backs of the most productive members and the govt always needs more $’s just as a crack addict. Have they come up with enough of your money to fix social security yet…no? What will they do as they start to run out of money… tax all the dumb kids that helped vote in these liberal leeches.
Good luck believing all this crap about who they will only tax. Take a look at your payroll deductions already people. They steal from you in broad daylight.
Posted by: richard | February 14, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
As much as I disagree with Hillary, I think her presidency could be survivable. But if Obama wins, with so much at stake, I’m moving to Canada
Posted by: Ted | Feb 14, 2008 8:35:26 AM
Perhaps, you haven’t noticed but America is doing so well for millions of Americans right now. By virtue of the childish comments on this blog it is clear that Obama, while a convenient otarget to blame for ‘anything’ you wish to disagree about, isn’t the problem with America, it the many intolerant hillbillies here who seem to believe that they can carry around this much hate and fear, and still have a functional nation that solves problems.
Posted by: VinceinATL | February 14, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Just saying what I wrote is stupid, doesn’t make it so. And I would write it again.
Yes, unfortunately there are a lot of people like me in this country who are fed up. I’m just saying outloud what people are thinking. And people like you who call people like me stupid makes a lot of sense.
Just like Obama, a lot of air in what YOU said, no substance.
Posted by: Susan | February 14, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
If this were a job interview in a truly color blind and gender blind society all thinking people would realize that Obama does not measure up to the job at this point in his life. It is amazing to me that the Democrats, who scream about what a racist and gender biased society we are seem to be the only ones totally focused on gender and race as the prerequisite qualifications for the job. Their hypocrisy know no bounds.
Posted by: Clifford P Burke | February 14, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Yes Susan it makes perfect since not to have port security and to give or ports over to whom? Oh yea I forgot all bussiness men in every country are willing to sell out. What if the Gulf Arabs aren’t.
Yea I mean who cares if Bernake is willing to hyper inflate to save Citibank wait who is citi owned by? So there’s a lot of people in this country who are okay w/what the 911 commission called a “failure of the imagination”
Like diapers politicians should be changed often and for the same reasons. Read my comment above Susan.
Posted by: eh? | February 14, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
So Cliford how isn’t Obama qualified? Qualified enough to clerk on the Sup Crt (which he turned down to make only 13K while he had student loans).
Tell me who was the most qualified president. Nixon right?
Posted by: eh? | February 14, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Yea Susan probably claims to be a Christian too. What was that scripture about gossip, what about a virtuous woman?
Posted by: eh? | February 14, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Sadly Obama qualified enough for Volker but not for Susan. So what school of economics did you go to?
Posted by: eh? | February 14, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Bush was the most qualified president, duh. He didn’t have any of those fancy elitist “editor of the Harvard Law Review” titles they only give to black guys. If only we could find more presidential candidates who really scrapped and fought their way through adversity with sheer intellect and merit like Bush did, and didn’t have everything handed to him on a silver platter like Obama’s single mom gave him, the country would stay just as awesome as it is now.
Posted by: Jen | February 14, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
At least I’m honest about who I am and my feelings. And EH? I have no idea why you drug me into port security and your gibberish. I never brought up port security.
I don’t make up stuff like many, I just say it as it is.
too bad the MSM doesn’t start asking REAL questions about Obama, intead of kissing up to him and giving him sugar coated interviews. Pathetic. If you all want to jump on the Obama Koolaid band wagon, go right ahead. Again, don’t say I didn’t warn you.
Posted by: Susan | February 14, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Attack Obama on what? He gives gradiose speeches and says nothing of substance. He is a schiester and an empy suit all style no substance. When the people finally do hear his radical left wing views the halo will be off. McCain will beat him hands down.
Posted by: AFSGTSAM | February 14, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
AFSGTSAM yes exactly, bc you can only read what your write and never anybody else’s comments.
Maybe the War and the economy aren’t separate issues.
Posted by: eh? | February 14, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
What does being a Christian have to do with anything? You always have to drag that in too, don’t you.
Ask Obama about his church. The church that puts BLACK PEOPLE FIRST! Read up on it. That’s what you want, read up on him. Don’t just make statements that he is the greatest of all.
And no, Obama is not qualified. I’m from Illinois, and the only thing he qualifies for is voting “present” because he doesn’t have the balls to stand up for something.
Posted by: Susan | February 14, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
Susan says :Yes I call my self some one who makes judgments based on non rational presuppositions (hubris) bc my comments always sound as thought I make judgement based on my presuppositions that aren’t rational.
Susan where there is smoke…
Posted by: eh? | February 14, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Well Jen & Eh? have a great life.
And don’t be crying when Obama takes all your money away to pay for everything.
I wasn’t the one screaming about his middle name. It’s you who got upset about someone using it. But AGAIN, it’s ok to use Hillary Rodham and George W.
Ashamed are we???
And maybe you are right, he could be a so called “brown terrorist”, but no one will investigate him to find out anything. Too afraid they would ruin the chances of getting on board the “first black president” train.
And eh: don’t lie and make up quotes i didn’t say. That’s a coward. and if there is smoke, it’s probably coming out of your backside.
Posted by: Susan | February 14, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
What is Hillary’s resume Bills? Why is that acceptable? Oh I forgot we threw out the constitution long ago so forget the 22nd Amendment. So again, Lincoln (2 years in ole po-dunk IL) vs. Nixon ( huge policy wonk for how many years?).
Mitt, you’d take a man who moves American jobs over seas even while he tell the people of Michigan something different? YOu take a man who takes what ever position will get him into office (no integrity).
McCain just like Obama has no executive experience some might say he has integrity (some disagree), but again perhaps he has been there too long (those Depression Era saying you now diapers and politico’s).
Richardson Executive experience, foreign policy experience would have been the first Hispanic, but ah he let Hillary co-opt what should have been his message. He could have bounced back from Iowa, but in New Hampshire many women thought he was ganging up on Hillary in the debate. That was his problem.
So then you have Obama no experience in the executive setting I do ceede that point. However, he’s not just Ivy league, he has Character (how many people do you know who turn down instant power and lots of money, for debt no name recognition and hard work). Oh and being a con-law prof I think we need someone who respects the constitution (obviously the Clinton’s did not either). Some question his loyalty and that’s the thing, Obama would be under so much scrutiny, he couldn’t give the Saudi’s weapons (like the Clintons and the Bushes did) he couldn’t do get away w/some of the things the previous two presidents got away with (including the co-president thing). He couldn’t get away w/appointments of people who are just loyal. He would have to get the best and the brightest (as he has done). Why is he just black, he never said that, he’s being asked be judged on his character.
Look @ what he has done in a year, looked at how he has managed his campaign so-far. Now looked @ the so-called experienced candidate.
In the end McCain will not fight hard against Obama, watch and see. He’ll make it close and then throw the election not bc he hates the GOP, but bc he Loves his country more than his party, and he knows some in the party have been disloyal to this country.
Posted by: eh? | February 14, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
In the article he does kind of say they’ll be using the race card and that he wasnt comfortable in that situation(whats wrong with that? Do you want to win so bad that race is ur trump card? I commend him for this IF this is the real cause)
My vote goes to the man with the better judgment not the Bomb bomb bomb Iran guy sorry it just doesn’t sit well with me.
After being lied to and manipulated by Bush and the Republicans I think it’s time to get some honesty in charge
Obama 08
Posted by: JW | February 14, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
By your logic since other people read the posts they would be able to read that you never said those things. Don’t think everyone is stupid, I think many people could infer that I was snarking. But you know, maybe other people can’t read any posts but mine, or something ; P
Posted by: eh? | February 14, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Susan: I’m pretty sure Obama, just like Hillary, really does want more of our money to “pay for everything.” And since I’m a Republican, I don’t care much for that idea. I don’t like the idea of more government bureaucracy.
But with that said, the Republicans have become every bit as “big government” as the Democrats. The major difference is that Democrats want to raise taxes to pay for their big government; Republicans want to borrow from China and Middle Eastern morons to pay for theirs.
I hate big government as much as any true Republican would. But at this point, Democrats are acting more fiscally responsible–because they actually want to PAY for things.
Posted by: gb8898 | February 14, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Susan says you can no shame and idiot who lies… (as she looks in the mirror).
Actually you can (it hits them later though, much much later).
Posted by: eh? | February 14, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Gb8898 well I actually agree w/you on some points. I think both parties have been guilty of taking money from countries that might not really like us.
Sadly I believe conservatives (the old ones) were right, things don’t happen when people sit on their butts. And we both have to admit the people in the country have sat on their butts and let this happen. Then we let the media tell us what to think, or how to think about it.
My thing w/Obama (and I was not like this b4 this election) is that he has economic advisers that are not uhm Krugman, ehhehehe, I mean he has conservative (fiscal) and different people, so he is at least able to hear different ideas. This is worlds different from many other people.
Posted by: eh? | February 14, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Those who say that, if so and so get elected, I am moving to Canada or elsewheres
Please move, we are over populated here, now.
Many Hollowood’s movie stars, said, they are moving, if Bush was elected, years ago.
Guess what they are still here getting rich by the American way of life.
Posted by: Lulu | February 14, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Those who say that, if so and so get elected, I am moving to Canada or elsewheres
Please move, we are over populated here, now.
Many Hollowood’s movie stars, said, they are moving, if Bush was elected, years ago.
Guess what they are still here getting rich by the American way of life.
Posted by: Lulu | February 14, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
i find this cult-like hold barack obama has on people a little scary.
Posted by: rocco rubino | February 14, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Agreed, Rocco
As much as I liked Regean, and I think he was our best President, I never sobbed uncontrollably when speaking his name.
People need to grow up and realize our happiness is up to us, not some President, no matter who he or she is.
Just because your candidate wins, doesnt make you a winner, and just because your candidate loses, doesnt make you a loser. You’re exactly the same person you were before the election. Find something real to base your self-worth on, people. The one universal constant – politicians disappoint.
Posted by: Bob | February 14, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Blacks have become America’s sacred cow. No one will do or say anything to them or about them in word or deed. It is pathetic behavior by Whites. The Media fears the Black, exampled by their unwillingness to say anything about Obama other than he likes the word “Change”. Obama, smart man that he seems to be, is riding that fear right into the White House.
Posted by: Vink | February 14, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Why is this Obamanut still in McCain’s fold. Geesh!! His butt should be gone immediately. What a fruitcake.
Posted by: John | February 14, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Funny hat too
Posted by: JohnAZ | February 14, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
To FRC I’d vote for a black President if one who was good on the issues was running. But none are. I’m not racist for disagreeing with his platforms and if I voted for him because he was black even though he does not represent my policys I’d be a racist for not judging the man by His content of his character but rather voting for him for his Skin colour.
If a white man ran against Hillary saying the SAME things as Obama but with more qualifictions would you vote for him? No, because John Edwards didn’t get nearly the votes.
Also by your logic I could accuse you of sexism for not Voting for Hilldog.
Posted by: James | February 14, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Roy Guscott, why do idiots like you love to stress Obama’s middle name? Just what are you really trying to say? Let’s judge YOUR name… I’m getting something…. hmmmm. It appears you’re a redneck, perhaps a member of some hate group that disapproves of anyone that doesn’t look like you! I could be wrong.. but to a born and bred Georgia boy like me, your name gives me the impression that bed covers aren’t the only thing you use white sheets for!
Now, you see where that gets us? Nowhere. I attack you, you attack me, and no one is the better for it.
Posted by: E.L.T. in DC | February 14, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Plainsm, I wonder if God likes the fact that your church condones molestation of little boys? Ask him that next time you’re thanking him whilst throwing a cheap shot to Protestants.
Posted by: E.L.T. in DC | February 14, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Davie, why is it that no one ever questions white people for voting for white candidates (WHICH IS ALMOST EVERY OTHER ELECTION), yet its all about race when blacks vote for a black candidate? Are blacks traitors to their race if they decide to vote for Clinton or Mccain. The black vote is not a singular voice. In fact, he didn’t start receiving an overwhelming vote until Bill’s statements in South Carolina. Also, why is it that when Obama wins a state with a large black population its about race? If SC is, say, 49% black, and Obama struggles with the latino and asian vote, then that would make the other 51% (whites, latinos, asians, etc)basically against Obama, right? Also, how do you explain predominantly white states, of which almost all have gone to Obama?
Posted by: E.L.T. in DC | February 14, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
I hope McCain fires McKinnon. Traitors come in all colors and stripes. You watch, he’ll go to work for Obama and level commercials against McCain. I hate two-faced backstabbers. McKinnon… you are a loser
Posted by: NJ | February 15, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am
Up front, I am a Democrat. I do have conservative leanings however. What I don’t get about the republicans that want to put down Obam’s messege is that he is pretty much doing the same thing as Regan. He is being a leader, giving people hope…. Hope for change.
You have to be on drugs or in a different universe to not get it. Bush II, offered, specifics that have largely turned out to be bad ideas. Great leaders can navigate, and bring everyone along with them.
I think McKinnon sees the leadership potential and is smart enough to not run against the grain.
Posted by: DAG | February 15, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
There is a lot to dislike and complain about on the Democratic side of the ticket.
But here are some reality checks for you if you’re willing to free up a few thousand brain cells:
America, like EVERY empire before it, cannot control the world, and when it builds up enough hubris to think it can, (i.e., as in NOW), it is the beginning of the end of dominant American power;
Supply side economics, “trickle down”, or whatever you call it, has (twice now – Reagan and Bush II) resulted in the rich getting richer, the other 90% (open your eyes – that’s YOU) getting poorer,
and a huge DEFICIT and National DEBT. That is for my kids and your kids to pay off.
Eternal WAR, as in WAR ON TERROR, has always bankrupted Dominant powers, and it will bankrupt US (as in U.S.) if we continue it too long.
What has happened to us (the U.S.) in the last 7 years began with 19 guys with boxcutters who boarded 4 airliners. Whoever the hell we are fighting now don’t have tanks, ships, submarines, missiles, or any other means of modern warfare (to wage an ACTUAL WAR). Do you people really believe that 1: They can actually defeat us??, and 2: That we can defeat them with the machines of war mentioned above? They have cost our country so much in the Bush II years PRECISELY because of our idiotic response to 9/11. In the last 7 years, we have become weaker economically, we have less influence in the world, we are poorer individually through stagnant wages and increasing prices, our roads and infrastructure are crumbling as we put hundreds of billions on credit cards to wage war around the world, and on and on. Have you noticed that no other countries have wasted so much of their precious resources including the lives and healthe of the soldiers of their armies, on such a wrongheaded set of “policies”? What we are fighting are criminals, and we will not defeat them with implements of war.
When you weigh everything on balance, yes, you may be a conservative — keep your conservative values, but for God’s sake, use your head.
Four (or 8) more years of the current policies will doom our ability to be anything but a shadow of our former American greatness.
Support and rebuild your conservative cause – but right now, stop the destructive trajectory of our country. Vote Democratic to change our path before it really is too late.
Steve, Orange County, California
Posted by: Steve | February 15, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
But John McCain is an American Hero(TM)!
Posted by: JammyJ | February 15, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Steve in Orange county, califorina -
We only spend a total of 23% of the national budget on Military spending and I’m including the % associated wit Vets and Foreighn Affairs.
Even someone from California can fig. that our debt could be springing from some other area of the budget. Social Security and mediacare eats up 36% and our give-away social programs take 19% Right now, 8% goes to basically pay the interest on our debt. There are a few other categories that make up another 14% of the typical budget.
Now we have they bleeding heart liberals wanting to break the bank with universal health care for the US (and a large part of the illegals from our 3rd world neighbors to the south)…give me a break people.
It’s not the war on terror that is driving the empire down, it’s the left wing do gooders that’s killing this country. Wake up from your orange co. haze.
In 1791 the per capita federal expenditure was less than a dollar. It is now over $6,000.00. Our founding fathers would be at war with this government if they were alive today.
Posted by: richard | February 15, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
i would argue that corporate tax breaks and outsourcing hurt our economy more ;)…a staple of the GOP diet, no?
Posted by: atomsk | February 19, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
We have waisted over a trillion dollars on our empire building endeavors overseas. Iraq had nothing to do with the war on terror. No weapons of mass destruction were ever found and Al-Qaida publicly ridiculed Hussein, so get your head out of your ass. Iraq was about oil and Bush wanting to be a war president. Nothing else.
Posted by: Nick | February 20, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
the truth is McKinnon is a hack who cares only about cash. If he thinks he has enough and is tired of being shunned by the majority of the crowd who used to consider him a friend, he’ll quit. If the millions he’s made on Bush and with McCain so far don’t seem enough, he’ll rationalize that he’s just doing “contrast ads”, not going negative. Truth is he’s spineless.
Posted by: rob | February 22, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Spoken like a true politican, never commiting to anything. Thank GOD for Barack Obama! He is a person that has centered his campaign on integrity. When he says something, he means it, regardless of the consequences. Hint…The Iraq War!! Go Barack!
Posted by: Heather | March 4, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
It’s unbelivable to me that Obama is so much of an untouchable that McCain’s own advisor will not actively participate in his campaign should Obama be the nominee. There is something seriously wrong, here.
Posted by: Angela | March 5, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
Mccain is shady person. His stupid he thinks people will vote for him when he stands by george bush hahaha funny. Bush is spine less cowers, he destroyed our great nation that we loved for years!!!! this is a leeson to americans they should never vote for any Bush family memebers as president!!! Republicans are for rich people and they make the poor poorer and rich richer!!! i hope Obama wins the presidancy!!!!
Posted by: mike | March 22, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Barack, let Joe Biden jump all over McCain, he knows him and can get away with calling him a crook, The Keating 5, and his so called foreign policy experience which is a hoax. You on the other hand can get on the economics and show what he’s lacking there.Why would someone think that John McCain looks presidential, he just looks like a tired old man to me, and as for a misspoken word people have died for misspoken words, take for instance WMD’s. So you all had better wake up the man, McCain, is going to lead us down a path of destruction.
Posted by: Mr.Suane B.Huff | August 23, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
McCain & Pailn wants to provoke a HICK TOWN BRAWL in Washington.
He said – he want to throw dishes and
PALIN wants to be the pitbull to scare people off.
GOOD LORD WHAT ON EARTH HAVE HAPPENED TO THE AMERICAN STATESMAN?
- How did he DEGENERATE from the HONORABLE – ELOQUENT – RESPECTABLE MAN who was WASHINGTON – LINCOLN-ROOSEVELT – TRUMAN – KENNEDY to this
POTTY-MOUTHED, MUD SLINGING , OVER-THE-NEIGHBOR’S FENCE BITCHIN, HICK-TOWN-BRAWL-MONGERING PITBULLS
THE WHOLE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT US!!!!
I WANNA CRY…. LORD PLEASE BRING LINCOLN BACK!!!!
Posted by: Perry | October 10, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
McCain aid – he want to throw dishes and
PALIN wants to be the pitbull to scare people off.
Translation: They want to provoke a HICKTOWN BRAWL in Washington?
GOOD LORD WHAT ON EARTH HAVE HAPPENED TO THE AMERICAN STATESMAN?
- How did he DEGENERATE from the HONORABLE – ELOQUENT – RESPECTABLE MAN who was WASHINGTON – LINCOLN-ROOSEVELT – TRUMAN – KENNEDY to this
POTTY-MOUTHED, OVER-THE-NEIGHBOR’S FENCE GOSSIPING HICK-TOWN BRAWL MONGERING PITBULLS ????????
THE WHOLE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT US!!!!
I WANNA CRY…. LORD PLEASE BRING LINCOLN BACK!!!!
Posted by: Perry | October 10, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
McCain aid – he want to throw dishes and
PALIN wants to be the pitbull to scare people off.
Translation: They want to provoke a HICKTOWN BRAWL in Washington?
GOOD LORD WHAT ON EARTH HAVE HAPPENED TO THE AMERICAN STATESMAN?
- How did he DEGENERATE from the HONORABLE – ELOQUENT – RESPECTABLE MAN who was WASHINGTON – LINCOLN-ROOSEVELT – TRUMAN – KENNEDY to this
POTTY-MOUTHED, OVER-THE-NEIGHBOR’S FENCE GOSSIPING HICK-TOWN BRAWL MONGERING PITBULLS ????????
THE WHOLE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT US!!!!
I WANNA CRY…. LORD PLEASE BRING LINCOLN BACK!!!!
Posted by: Perry | October 10, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am