By Ed O'Keefe

Feb 1, 2008 8:20pm

Michelle Obama & Bill Clinton: No Comparison

ABC News’ Ed O’Keefe Reports: In an exclusive interview for Monday’s "Good Morning America" and "Nightline", Michelle Obama told Deborah Roberts she and Bill Clinton have little in common.

"Absolutely not," Mrs. Obama told Roberts, when asked if it was accurate to compare her approach to that of the former president on the campaign trail.  "I’m a very different person. I don’t know Bill Clinton. I’ve never had conversation with him. I can’t dissect who he is."

WATCH GMA’S EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH MICHELLE OBAMA ON MONDAY’S "GOOD MORNING AMERICA" AND "NIGHTLINE".

Senator Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., has repeatedly said her husband’s assertive campaigning on her behalf is simply that of a concerned spouse, not seasoned political operative.  Some have wondered whether the Clintons are playing ‘good cop, bad cop’ — dispatching Clinton to do the dirty work while the candidate stays above the fray.

In a recent interview with ABC News’ Cynthia McFadden, Senator Clinton claimed she could keep her husband at bay.  And, indeed, former President Clinton has been flying under the radar recently, though he did take a shot at Senator Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., who endorsed Obama’s bid last week, for supporting ‘No Child Left Behind’ legislation with President Bush.

Watch the GMA video of Barack battling back against Bill by clicking here.

Michelle Obama, speaking with ABC News’ Roberts for GMA and Nightline, made clear she and Clinton have taken different paths on the 2008 campaign trail.

"I know who I am and I don’t think there are many similarities in terms of how we approach (campaigning). How we were raised how we think about the world. We’re very different people, it doesn’t make sense to compare and contrast," she said of Clinton.

When asked if she was upset or angry about the tactics employed in South Carolina — which some called race baiting — Mrs. Obama let bygones be bygones.

"No, there have been things in this campaign that have been disappointing to me but that wasn’t one of them," she claimed.

User Comments

Of course there is no comparison: it is obvious that the differences are stark: Michele is a (mixed?) black woman, Bill Clinton is a white man. Michele Obama is a wife and Bill Clinton is a husband. Michele Obama is a career woman, and intelligent. Bill Clinton is a former American President, and is a Rhodes Scholar. Not much is presently known about Michele Obama. Everything is known about Bill Clinton. Michele Obama is known in Chicago, and is just getting to be known as Obama’s wife. Bill Clinton is known all over the world and has done work with the former President George H. W. Bush in raising money for Tsnuami Relief, and has negotiated with the major cola companies to remove colas from school across the U.S. (not enough schools, however) because of the rise in childhood obesity and diabetes. Michele Obama needs to be set apart from her husband and judged on her OWN merits as a woman, not just interviewed as “Obama’s Wife”.

Posted by: Get America Back On Track | February 1, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

No, Michelle Obama is not of mixed race unlike her husband, and she is, indeed, an accomplished careerwoman. She’s a bit heavy-handed with her claims that she’s “Just a little girl from the south side of Chicago” — both she and her brother attented Princeton University; they didn’t grow up in the ghetto. Moreover, some of us around here are still trying to figure out her huge and unexplained jump in salary at the University of Chicago Hospitals, shortly after her husband was elected to the Senate. Something a bit odd was going on there, and we Chicagoans, especially the residents of Hyde Park who receive their medical care at that expensive hospital, have never been told what. We’d like it explained.

Posted by: eleonora27 | February 1, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Michelle Obama not the same as Bill? Duh. Bill’s been running himself as a co-candidate. The “teo for one, blue light special” with Hillary, because Hillary’s not a strong enough candidate on her own to defeat Obama. The Clintons beleive it’s time for a woman president, espeially the wife of the first black president and since Bill was th efirst black president, the second black president is not as important as now trying to elect the first woman president, especially since she’s the wife of the first black president! What an amazing thing happen. The first black president and possibly the first woman president were husband and wife. The democrat’s demigod idols, the Clintons. The majority of the Kennedys are backing Obama, because the mystique of their dynasty is in jeopardy by the mystique of the dynasty of the Clintons. Since Obama and the Clintons agendas are carbon copies of each other, it really just comes down to deciding which minority is more deserving the unltimate in empowerment. Women or blacks? Which is it? Is the party more sexist or more racist? We all will lfind out soon and the rhetoric of NOW’s New York chapter will seem minuscule to the hypersensitive political correctness rage that will come from the women or blacks that have been betrayed once one of the two candidates has been chosen. We’ve all heard that it’s the Clinton’s turn again in office and Obama doesn’t deserve to be the nominee. Well, that’s interesting. Usually most who support the Clintons say, “It’s time for a woman to be president.” Wow. So that’s it huh? No wonder John Edwards wasn’t given any support. He wasn’t not an affirmative action candidate. That’s wha seemed to matter more for everyone this time around.

Posted by: TexBork | February 1, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

A speech given by President John F. Kennedy is perhaps the best refutation of the Clinton approach to politics, and an endorsement of the Obama magic…
“When power leads man toward arrogance, poetry reminds him of his limitations. When power narrows the area of man’s concern, poetry reminds him of the richness and diversity of existence. When power corrupts, poetry cleanses.”
America is tired of the arrogance, corruption and lack of that elusive thing called grace that characterized Bill Clinton’s “co-presidency” with Hillary.
Or, to put it another way, as the ancient Romans said: “When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said, ‘How well he spoke,’ but when Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said, ‘Let us march.’”
America is on the move again.

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | February 1, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

Found it rude someone in here talking little about michelle obama base on the ABC interview on comparison with bill clinton comments on campaign trail. Probably to be honest it’s disease sometimes on national television but some listener find it so quick jumping on the band-wagon of fantasy instead of reality the woman spoke right about her position doesn’t mean people should be angry about her freedom of expression.

Posted by: abdul | February 1, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

Something is going on in our country and fudementally it is good. The issue is not whether Senator Obama wins or looses personally. The simple impact of this beautiful country continuing it move towards being what the founding “Fathers” envisioned, and that was “One Country Under God with Liberty and Justice for All”. Perhaps when the next generation of young “American” becomes the leaders of this wonderful country they will be armed with the truth and that is America not only “Talk the Talk” as it relates to our beleifs but we also “Walk the Walk”. Senator Obama is a gift for the nation to demonstrate to the world that we are continuing our journey towards achieving “Excellence” as a nation. Hopefully it will help our country make the world a better place without resorting to the horrors of war and giving into greed. This gift may also help the most powerful nation make the world a better place for all of “Gods” people.

Posted by: murl41 | February 1, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm

Another wonderful post by Martin Edwin Andersen (9:43): I wonder if people really realize that this election could make or break this country. Another 4 or 8 years of the same Washington establishment could be all it takes. And Mrs. Clinton speaks of her experience and how, because of it, she will be ready on day 1. Don’t people see that that is the reason not to vote for her. She IS part of the Washington establishment that we need to change. As for this article: Mrs. Obama speaks with the same gratiousness as her husband usually does. She would be a fine First Lady.

Posted by: cat lady | February 1, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

Once upon a time, the spouse of the candidate would be the quiet supporter of her partner on the campaign trail. Bill Clinton is the elephant in the room. Bill’s Caustic rhetoric cannot be compared to Michelle Obama’s opening foray into presidential camapign politics. And she was right to say that she was different from him. Who would want to claim the same shrewd and nasty tactics while being the spouse of a candidate? Mrs. Obama, stay the way you are.

Posted by: ji_john | February 1, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

So, what will you do for our failing economy Mr. McCain?
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Friends…
I will bring more war to America…
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Uh, what about the economy?
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Friends, I will keep us at war – NO ONE ELSE CAN LIKE I WILL!
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But, what about your lying regarding Romney’s stance on a “pull out”?
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Friends, I am the greatest general since Patton… In fact, Patton couldn’t even hold my shorts.
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But, what about taxes… and your stance on allowing illegal immigration?
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Friends – NOBODY knows war like me… NOBODY, DAMMIT!

Posted by: Jesse Campman, Pasadena, California | February 1, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

I’m glad that they both support their spouses, but I really don’t care much what they think.. I do care what Hillary, and Obama think & say.. My vote will go to Hillary because she is a strong Leader, that can lead from the start.

Posted by: J.Murphy, CA. | February 1, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

Denise: Remember one thing, if the public didn’t like Bill Clinton they would not have voted for him the second time. And if he could run again I bet he would win. You probably weren’t around or too small in 1961 when JFK got elected. Now there was a president that can never be replaced. After that we didn’t have a good president until Bill Clinton. There are a lot of people out there that sill like him.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | February 1, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

It bothers me greatly that we know so little about Obama. Hillary we know…her ambition, her warts, her wonderful intelligence, her years of service, her heartbreaks and foibles.
I did not like her Iraq vote back in 2003 but I have to wonder if Obama had been in the Senate at the time, whether he too would not have succumbed to the pressure from the media, the people, the president and Obama’s constituency. After all, he did campaign for Liebermann and that is totally incomprehensible in light of his claims now that he was so against Iraq and made a speech about it in Illinois. It is simply easy for him to point the finger at Hillary who would not have survived not giving Bush the power…certainly not in New York. Obama has a few things to answer himself.

Posted by: Two-cats | February 2, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

Two-cats, you are right on. And by the way, experience is good not only because it demonstrates competence, it proves you can do something, but it gives us time to see what you’re really like. I have no idea what Obama is really like under pressure (because believe me, being a state senator is not comparable to the pressures and rigors of presidential office). We probably don’t even know the extent to all the scandal and ridiculousness that we can dig up about him, and we most certainly don’t know how effective he really is at implementing his big ideas.

Posted by: CTForHillary | February 2, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am

I think she did a fantastic job of answering this question which was a poisoned chalice.
Shes an excellent advocate of her spouse and would be a remarkable first lady.
Why Americans think that only 2 families have the monopoly of leadership in this country is just astonishing.
He is right its time for a fundamental change, she is to entangled in her lobbyists who have already financed her re-election bid(some of them who lobby interests for foreign nationals) they will do anything to get back into the white house, they won’t change anything because they would galvanise the republicans again and lo and behold one of Bush’s daughters will run for president again.
Lets see did i miss anything, oh yes she is female.I think that America is ready for a female president, Just not this particular female

Posted by: Andrew Keaton | February 2, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am

I have just begun to read with great absorption and benefit The Audacity of Hope the #1 best seller NY Times by Senator Braack Obama. May I highly recommend that in addition to posting what you do not know about Mr.Obama (lack of experience, fluff,etc.; nor what you don’t know about Hillary the coat-tail-rider of former president Bill who you rate as smart and very experienced) you read their books. Senator Obama writes very insightfully and palpably of Washington and governance with examples from early presidential administrations, recent presidential administrations, and the administration of the future he will lead. And DOUBTLESSLY Senator Obama is a leader. Look at his campaign. Look at the seasoned men of Washington and across the nation who have entered his camp–including the icon and lion of the senate Ted Kennedy. Look at the unions and press that endorse him. He wins all of this people support and donors, donations of piles of money to run, even though Hillary can claim 35 years of experience because she is way older than Barack. Have a look at Hillary Clinton’s book too if it is still in print of the title “It takes a Village” on issues of child development and advocacy for children.
Barack is Hillary’s equal and more because he is a brilliant, and a honest leader, and inspires voters of every generation. He brings Politics in Action 101 to all, especially new young voters who used to think their vote did not matter.
If Hillary Clinton were by far the best choice in the minds of experienced and well schooled voters, why are they lining up behind Obama? Answer: He is a leader for hope and change of a better governance, society at home and abroad. Smart men who worked in Bill’s campaign years ago don’t work for Hillary’s campaign. Bill’s ex-smart men work for Senator Barack Obama.

Posted by: Victoria | February 2, 2008, 3:23 am 3:23 am

Per Texbork: the ancient Romans said: “When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said, ‘How well he spoke,’ but when Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said, ‘Let us march.’”
America is on the move again.Go Obama

Posted by: I love America | February 2, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am

Victoria: Anyone these days can write a book that inspires, scares, motivates, etc…but we need more then that in a President. The media has been given him a free but I know “if” he were to get the nomination then things would change for the worst for Obama. He gives great speeches but some of us need more than that. We need substance.
Michelle Obama has not been in the public eye before as she is now so sure she is persived as a fresh face. “If” Obama is elected the Nominee, the Republicans will start digging deep and personal. Not sure either is going to like people prying into their personal lives or how they would handle it. EVERYONE has skeletons in their closets.
I think Hillary has been devoured by media and critics and yet she is confident and poised. She is tough for good reasons. This is were EXPERIENCE really matters.
No one can get it right every time. I find that comment a bit arrogant.
Hillary 08

Posted by: Ready4Hillary | February 2, 2008, 4:24 am 4:24 am

Very nice of michelle to come on abc. I am glad that the spouces are helping thier mates. I though support Hillary Clinton and I do hope that Bill will keep moving for her. I am so mad I missed Clintons daughter in San Luis Obispo today. I will try to reach again soon. Hillary 08!

Posted by: Tammy | February 2, 2008, 5:19 am 5:19 am

Come the day after the Presidential election and we all return to our normal lives will our lives be better? Most of our Presidential info will be delivered via press releases from the White House Secretary not soaring oratories. The President will need to execute policy affecting all of us not specific voter groups. People will no longer care the President is the first anything.The lives of the President and the first person will have been stripped bare and the worse will be yet to come. Time for talk will be over and we will wait for promises to be delivered and hopes to be fulfilled. My reasons for my choice will need to be based on tomorrows reality not todays rhetoric as that is when bills will still have to be paid. I too want the dream but I cannot forget I live in reality. I do not know if Hillary is the best choice but I want to know if Obama is before my chance to choose is gone. So the media need to stop being his pep rally and do the right thing and explore him in detail as well because the Republicans will be merciless. Then it will be too late for the Democratic establishment to protect him. Then what will do if we find out we got carried away by euphoria.

Posted by: We live in interesting times | February 2, 2008, 6:16 am 6:16 am

Who says that Obama is not part of the establishment. Last time I looked he was in the senate, in washington. Is he leaving?. No nobody is leaving, they all want to be in DC and they all want to get rich. Do you know of anyone in the senate who is not a millionaire including Obama. Go ahead black folks vote for him but don’t be surprised if he turns out to be another uncle tom. Ted Kennedy already has him wrapped around his finger.

Posted by: nadeem tahir | February 2, 2008, 6:21 am 6:21 am

The name Obama means love and unity for anyone that wants to tarnish the name Obama. Anyway, it was nice to see Hilary doing the right thing last night and talk about the issues facing America, and stop bashing Barack. Too bad her husband cant keep his mouth shut, he still thinks he’s running for president.

Posted by: nancy | February 2, 2008, 6:34 am 6:34 am

all voters should wake up, did you hear what Macain said if he gets to be president? he said he will go all out making an effort to catch Bin Laden, that means he will be doing the same thing as Bush, spending millions and millions of dollars, cutting after and before school programs, cutting housing and other community programs, and spending it looking for some guy that is not in the US. Why is he looking for Bin Laden, there are thousands of people like Bin Laden who will do the same thing Bin Laden is doing, so Macain is going to spend all the tax payers money looking for one guy, while there are others out there who is willing to harm Americans. Macain was definitely not thinking straight when he made those statements.That’s the reason why the country is in a recession because of all the taxpayers money going to fund this never ending war.

Posted by: nancy | February 2, 2008, 6:41 am 6:41 am

There is NO comparison between Michelle Obama and Bill Clinton. Michelle has class, intelligence, logic, and will be a wonderful First Lady. Billy is self-absorbed. He only thinks of himself–a has-been that appears to have no self-control. I have no respect for the Clintons, he lied on national TV to all of us and Hilly stayed with him just because of politics. These two people have no shame. They will do anything to get in the White House. Obama ’08

Posted by: CS3539 | February 2, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am

Michelle Obama’s not of mixed race, and as an employee of the Univ of Chgo, we dont sit around and question why the administration decides to pay her what she makes, quite frankly, considering the history of the salary disparity by gender, Im happy for whatever she makes, especially considering what her counterparts (male) make. And that has nothing to do with her success. Also with her being questioned regarding her statement “Im a lil south side girl” and the reply from a reader that she’s heavy handed w/the statement cause she’s college educated smells of a lil racism or just ignorant cause its alot of US who come from the south side and have college degrees and have NOT lost our identiy. Sad thats the focus of some of the readers…..

Posted by: Keith C | February 2, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am

As usual, Americans are doing their best to miss the point by looking at things only from the superficial. This presidential elections of 2008 has a much higher and a much deeper meaning than just the superficial nonsense of politics and political parties. If anybody thinks that a black man and a white woman are running for president in the United States of America in the year 2008 is just coincidental, then Americans are still not getting it and the world is in real trouble. Everything that happens, happens for a reason and has an important meaning and never more so than in this year of 2008. Barrack Obama and Hilary Clinton symbolise the opportunity that humanity is being given, once again, to become whole, balanced and integrated in order to make the quantum leap that is absolutely vital not only to the continued existence but also to the evolution of the human race. We are now at the turning point and have between now and 2012 to make up our minds, individually and collectively, whether we wish the human race to continue to survive and evolve, or whether we wish to become extinct. In Barrack Obama and Hilary Clinton you have the male and female, black and white, the old (Barrack Obama’s roots go back to Africa and to that region of Africa credited with being the place where the first humans have been found) and Hilary represents the new world. In this year of 2008, a No. 1 year, which means a year of new beginnings, all the energies that Barrack Obama and Hilary Clinton represent have to come together in an integrated, balanced whole in order to ground the energies that will pave the way for wonderful miracles in the years ahead. In this year of new beginnings of the 21st century, it is time for America to truly grow up; to stop talking about the past and war and trying to base its present and future on war and fear. It is time for America to grow up and understand what being a super power truly means. Super power does not mean that you can march in anywhere you like and do whatever you like just because you believe you have the military might to do so. That is not true power. That is just being a spoilt brat. Super power means Christ power – the power to feed the hungry, to heal the sick; the power to chase away sorrow and bring joy; the power to create miracles that changes lives and lifts humanity up to another level of existence. That is what being a super power is all about. It is the power to serve – to serve humanity and the earth on which they dwell. Being a super power is surely the highest honour that can ever be bestowed on any individual or any nation on earth. So wake up America and reflect on the privileged position that you hold and the true responsibilities that that position places on you. For if you go into this election thinking that it is purely coincidental that a black man and a white woman are running for president in the United States of America in the year 2008, then you are still not getting it, America and the world is in real trouble.

Posted by: Ronke Rwagaju | February 2, 2008, 8:21 am 8:21 am

I believe that Americans are at point in history when they should overlook white or black about Barack Obama and concentrate on who actually he is. Obama’s mother is white and his dad is black. If you say that obama is black and voted against him because of that it is a disrespect to all women because it means that the white womb that bears a Obama for 9months and nurtured him to what he is today is of no important. i urge every right thinking American to wonder why Obama is captivating all the support he has today. May be it is time for a person of his intelligent to lead America to a greater future. Clinton’s has been there. I can’t deny that Bill Clinton era is not good, but someone set the tone for him to ride high. Today lets look at it in a different way. Things are not the same. It is not Clinton but Hillary. Let us be realistic, there are many first ladies and senators who can not make a good president even though they have years of experience in the senate or white house. When Hillary talk of experience, i saw a very grave mistake she is making because i believe that voters are watching as those other experienced presidential candidates are being defeated by less experienced Hillary and Obama. If Hillary should look for another tactic that will be better because Obama is well experience and smarter than him and his Bill. I am not wondering if Obama made Hillary cry, what i wonder is if Bill Clinton cried too. However, i am sure that Obama has made Clinton mad. so crazy that he start running from one campaign ground to the other. Don’t get me wrong, i love bill but his recent approach to Obama’s issues showed how tactical that man can be. He has pretended to be the First Black President all this while and black people will not forgive him for that. If Hillary knows how important a single vote is in deciding who will rule America, she will advice Clinton to pipe low. Republican party are waiting for Hillary to win and they will remind Americans how Clinton defiled the white house with Monica and who knows what another Clinton will do. White house is like NORTH AMERICA TEMPLE OF GOD, where oats are taken by all that believe in ONE NATION UNDER GOD before they rule. TO show such a disrespect to a great nation and such a great responsibility is unforgivable by men. During the prosecution he said he sinned only to God and his family. But what of fellow American people whom white house represents that gave him such a great privilege. When i read about people saying that they don’t know Obama, i see it as they are telling me much about him. They are just simply saying that he is a Calculative, simple, humble,quit but active, focused husband and father. A good leader,who speaks up and talk sense only for the love of America. Yes, they is nothing on him because his plates are clean and that is why i think he should be given a chance for the next 4years to fix. Let no racial bias cloud your mind to see a real candidate, a GOD sent, for a change to greater America at the right time.

Posted by: christian Obasi | February 2, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am

Michelle did not mention her connection to walmart. She was in it as thick as Hillary But bailed out when Obama decided to run.
**michelle obama and walmart find out for yourself. They all have skeletons in the closet and the Republicans will be all over it.

Posted by: Blair H | February 2, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am

One thing no one has been able to explain to me is this: If the Clinton did such an outstanding job during their 8 years in office, why did Gore lose the election? Oh, I know you’re all going to say it was because Bush stole it, etc. which is probably true. But it was so close. Shouldn’t it have been a landslide victory for the Democrats since ‘times were so wonderful’ under the Clintons? Or could it possibly be that voters were tired of the Clintons and wanted a change? Any change-no matter how bad it turned out to be? Just think about it when you put Hillary on the ballot in the GE. Is she electable? I think not.

Posted by: cat lady | February 2, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

TexBork said it very well. JFK ” When power corrupts, poetry cleanses.”
For a generation that moved to the voices of Joan Baez, Bob Dylan and all the folk singers of the 60′s to hear Obama is to once again think of the poetry of hope. OF something new, something good.
It’s like finding that we haven’t lost our roots in the long years. I can reach across the years to my 18 year old daughter and say this is what we believed…Obama is that wind of change.

Posted by: JB | February 2, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am

The difference between Michelle and Clinton is: Michelle is like her husband, a man not just of style but of substance. B. Clinton is like his wife, a woman not just for substance but for style.

Posted by: Paul | February 2, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

Obama claims that if elected president he will come in to office being ‘Right’ I am afraid of someone who always thinks they are “right” more of the same. Think about it people.

Posted by: thinkaboutit | February 2, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

I don’t think we know anymore about Michelle Obama than we do Barack .. and that is the problem.
Hillary ’08 … she’ll be GREAT!!!!

Posted by: Elinda | February 2, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Elinda,
Stop saying you don’t know about Obama. Go and do some research girl. The information is out there. Go and read it!
Cat Lady,
Obama was already a senator when the senate was voting to go to Iraq. Guess what he voted no compare to Hillary. He too was under the press’ pressure. I guess he was smart enough to do not believe The Bush’s administration.
I never voted before because i never believe in an politician. But Feb 5th i will. You know why? I finally found a politician you speak the truth.
To let you all know Hillary said is she knew what she knows now she would never vote to go to Iraq.
I would like her to answer why did she vote yes to give the same Bush’s administration the power to attack Iran.

Posted by: change | February 2, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am

Its a welcome change to hear Michelle Obama , she is straight forward , intelligent and charismatic lady..it will be pleasant to see her as first lady.

Posted by: Tanu | February 2, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

I want all of the Obamathon supporters to realize that I was impressed with his appearance, his calm, his great style. I will vote for him if he wins, no doubt about that.
I just believe that if you strip away the desire to apply even more golden clothes to the emperor, you cannot possibly compare ‘beliefs, hopes, dreams’ to fact, figures, dates, bills, and actual events.
Obama is getting it both ways when he says ‘I would have never . . . ‘ or ‘I would have done that differently . . . ‘. He is able to say what he would have done, without facing the consequences of his actions. How convenient. In hindsight, and it seems in his general view, he can remain 100% correct on all issues, in all discussions, involving anyone that steps up to the challenge.
The point here is that he wasn’t elected to high office at the time of these momentous decisions, and when faced with supposed facts, from sources one would think could be trusted, he did not have to face the wrath of his choices.
And as for experience, just what incredible levels of experience has Barrack obtained, and how did he come to this rosetta stone of knowledge? Ambassador somewhere? No. Secretary of anything? No. Department of Labor, Education, Defense, Environment . . . . No.
He has a whole 2.5 years in high office, as a Junior Senator who started running for President after the first year. He was in the state senate for 8 years, and that has its involvments, not on a national scale of course, but still, there are decisions to be made. But let us remember that to this day, Illinois is not some bastion of escape for the ills of America. It has problems. Vast, unaltered prolems.
Chicago is still run-down, old, polluted, filled with crime, poverty, traffic, drugs, guns, pornography (if you care about it, me, its your right to have it), prostitution, low wages, slum housing, communicable diseases, homelessness, lack of medical insurance, and hunger.
I do not see any difference whatsoever in Chicago or Illinois in general, having had Obama in the state house for 8 years. The above problems were there before him. And they didn’t evaporate because of him. The conditions that Mr. Obama found when he entered the state house, were the same conditions he left behind. But higher callings were, uh, calling.
So what, you say. So everything, I reply.
I do not believe that someone who hasn’t been in high office, let alone only lower state legislatures, has the fight, the experience, the know-how, or the qualifications, to be President Of The United States. They just simply cannot prove their abilities through actions. If one has little to point to when presenting their evidence, they do not win the case. Unless your OJ.
But when the state that was left behind, for ego and ambition, is no better off today than it was before your arrival, that may be all the evidence that is required. It speaks volumes. And its speaks truthfully. It is the deeds that you do not the words that you say.
He is a nice man, a well presented man.
He is very articulate. But he is vague, non-descript.
He takes the high road because he can avoid contentious details that way. He votes present on bills that require his decisions, even in the US Senate. He doesn’t take a position and then derides those for the positions they were brave enough to take.
But he is well versed and attractive. Savvy and inspiring. But he is not prepared to lead because he has a habit of jumping positions before he has adequately completed the job he was elected to do in the first place. And he cannot make a tough decision that might have consequences as evidenced by ‘Present’, ‘Present’, ‘Present’ . . . 130 times.
Ambition and a sense of right, like a royal mandate from God, though long dispensed with by Reason, drives the ego to reach for what one hasn’t yet proven their capacity to deal with.
One does not reward ambition with position, unless results prove the merits behind doing so.
There are no ‘merits’ found in Illinois that one can point to as a reason to entrust the defense and governance of the United States, to the purple prose and poetic rhetoric of a junior politician.
Google Illinois and take a peek: Crime rates, health rates, public housing conditions, wages, guns, disease, traffic, pollution, job rates, foreclosures, unemployment, literacy rates, homelessness rates, business failures, bankrupcies . . . there is nothing in Illinois very different than a lot of US states. I know that momentous change is not accomplished by one’s self. It takes a village. But when you promise the heavens and promise the earth, one can reasonably expect miracles from the miracle worker.
But there are no miralces to be found; no real recovery or example of corrected troubles that would cause the Nation to burst through Illinois’ borders, desperate to experience this new promised land.
It was promised, yes.
It just wasn’t delivered.

Posted by: 2009 Where Are You? | February 2, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

As an independent white guy living in the south. I will put my hope in God not man. I trust Mr. O B A M A is the right man for our times. Hillary expects to take the good points from her husbands 8 years in the white house but what about all the bad. The 2 go hand in hand.

Posted by: ATLANTAGUY | February 2, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Wal-Mart – $168K in salary for Mrs. Obama. + $7,200 is stock options, which she hasn’t sold to this day.
$300K discount on a house before the major slump, + dividing property to NOT pay the other $625K. That’s $925K questionable dollars.
I know this doesn’t compare to Clinton, but when you have the same NeoLiberal or NeoCon hypocrisy, it has to be called out.
Mr. Hsu, bad bundler, bundled $72,000+ for Obama and he still hasn’t admitted it or given it back.
’5 hours of billed services’ for Mr. Rezko and the ‘church’ job? – Try 17+ years, dealing with this man, WHILE he was building a very public reputation for illegalities.
130 ‘Present’ votes, 166 missed votes because he started running for President after 1 year in office. He says what he would have voted had he been there? Rubbish. He would have voted Present just like he always does.
The high road is the gutless road. It means you can pretend to be above it all without having a clue what the hell you would do.
Great. Another uniter? Check out Exit Polls on any MSM source and see what a uniter this guy is.
It’s still 75% black for blacks.
It’s still 75% white for whites.
and that ain’t unity, folks.
PS – it takes two sides to create a divide, not just one.

Posted by: 2009 Where Are You? | February 2, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

2009 Where Are You?
Thanks for all the Wal-Mart info you provided. where you expecting Obama to do the Mayor and the police job in Illinois? He was the state senator for god sick. The last time i check i think that is why we elect a mayor and we are paying the police department they are there to serve and protect.

Posted by: change | February 2, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

2009 Where are you: You answered my question about the Democrats with a tirade about Republicans. Hey, I’m on your side. I just want to know if Hillary is electable given that in 2000, if things were so good under the Clintons, why did Gore lose to a Republican? And a rather bad one at that. There are a lot of folks who don’t like the Clintons which I guess is part of the reason Gore lost since noone has given me a better reason. So, my question is, can she win in November?????

Posted by: cat lady | February 2, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

Her 35 years of experience means nothing for me. I am living in New York and i don’t see what she does for New York as a Senator. The only time I see her face on TV is when she is asking me for my vote. What does she do for our kid that is dropping from school? Nothing. Health care ? nothing. Oh wait!! she made a lot of noise for the 9/11 police and fire fighter concerning their health after 9/11. Guess what it was all noise. nothing happen after she got elected for a second term. All the fire fighter and police she was shaking hand with are forgotten in her book.
One thing i can tell you Thanks God we have a good Mayor. He is a millionaire who understand what is going on and he is working hard to keep New York as the greatest City in the world.
Hillary only does the talk to talk. and nothing else.
She voted for no child left behind. Hey if it was for her in New York Every kid would be out of school by now.
Every time she says she has 35 years of experience. I ask myself what that is going to do for me if she get elected. The answer is nothing?
She is Clinton Hillary she will stay Hillary Clinton. All she is all about the Clinton Dynasty and nothing but that.
I don’t expect any change from her.

Posted by: change | February 2, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

Michelle Obama was working on the Board of Directors getting paid big bucks and collecting shares of stock as Treehouse was closing plants and putting Latino workers out of jobs. Did Michelle speak out for Latinos and their families? NO.
The Obama’s church was then praising Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam leader, as the Man of the Century.
Did the Clinton’s cost Latino’s their jobs. No.
Did the Clinton’s embrace Louis Farrakhan. No.

Posted by: Stephanie | February 2, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Stephanie
You forgot to point out the Obama’s were also moving into their new 1.3 million dollar home while their “friend of 20 years” Tony Rezko was running 11 slum-like buildings in Obama’s Illinois senate district.
Did either Obama speak up for those people living in those slums as the tried to survive a Chicago winter with no heat. NO.
Did Obama look the other way and keep his hand out for more campaign money from Rezo. YES.
Is Obama being truthful now when he says twice last week on two morning news shows that “nobody had an inkling” that Rezko was involved in a pay for play political game. NO
Did the Obama’s tell the whole truth about their secret deal with Rezko to help purchase their 1.3 million dollar home? Not yet.
It is no wonder Obama just wants to talk about Hope and Change. Because he is really hoping to change the conversation when people question his past.

Posted by: Andrea | February 2, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

I like how Obama talks about wanting to move forward yet he is still stuck in the past. So what Hillary voted for Iraq Resolution. So did a total of 77 Senators and 76% of the US supported that now.
The Bush administration lied and distorted the truth in a rush to war and Colin Powell presented false information in his speech to the United Nations Security Council.
Obama in admitted in the last debate in Los Angeles that he needed “people around me to tell me know because I am not always going to be right. Check the transcript on CNN. He said it and that alone negates his own argument about “being right on day one.”
And it is not just those ‘present’ votes he made in Illinois but those ‘I pushed the wrong button’ to vote that shows he is just another politician playing games. In Illinois, the vote button’ you press goes toward the count for passing or not passing legislation but after you can change the record by saying you meant something else. The ‘wrong’ vote still counts but the record says something different. Obama played that game 6 times. Each and every time it was to the benefit of groups giving him money and not a vote that represented his people.
That must be where he got the idea of making ‘change’ his campaign theme. Or did Rezki teach him how the game of getting paid for playing the game really works?
Do your research. The Republicans surely will.

Posted by: Mel | February 2, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

There is absolutely no comparision between Michelle Obama and President Bill Clinton. She has never held any public office.
No matter what anyone says, no one can deny the fact the President Clinton’s two terms were the best in recent history. We had economic prosperity and peace and US was highly respected around the world.

Posted by: Kay | February 2, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

Keep trowing dirt on clintons as we belive everything from media

Posted by: philmadison | February 2, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

Obama made a mistake accepting campaign money from Rezko. He admitted making a mistake buying a property with Rezko but there has been no wrongdoing. Let us completely shine light on the subject so that we can clearly see if there was a problem or not. Thus far, there has been no problem found and if there was a problem, I would presume it would have already surfaced because of the scrutiny that usually come with campaigns digging dirt on each other.
Now, let’s consider what Hillary has done with whitewater. If we are going to stay with innuendos, do you recall that Susan McDougall refused to testify and was jailed, later pardoned by Bill. Also, do you remember what happened to Ron Brown, the one who was about to talk about whitewater? He was met with an unfortunate accident of a plane crash. Next, Vince Foster, another person that was being investigated and was found in a park, supposedly committed suicide with a bullet in the back of his head. Hmmmm, consider for a moment, how much more of a trouble the Clintons have on record that also brings doubt in my mind.
There is very little diff between Clinton and Obama policy proposals. Yes, Clinton would be more ready than Obama. But running the country is not a sprint, it’s a marathon. These candidates care about this country, they are making large sacrifices to help our country solve its problems. Vote for your favorite because of positive reasons not because of negative reasons. Obama is attempting to change the tone in that way, I hope others will listen to that message. Perhaps, if enough listen to that, the cost of running for a government post will not be as costly and the focus will also change for the positive. That movement is hopefully beyond Obama’s candidacy.

Posted by: Seeking Truth | February 2, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

There is lot of common between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Both are moderate, savvy liberal democrats. But since both are vying for the position of presidential nominee they have to exaggerate their difference to show who has better understanding of the present and looming problems.
Both’ scripts are written by their advisers and handlers. It depends on who remembers better and who can deliver better. Both are new to be Presidents, and being Presdent is training on the job and listening to the people and galaxy of geniuses esp economics, defense and foreign policies advisers. Foreign policies are again subject to Western interests and US foreign policies have never espoused the same ideals of the founders of this Great Country. Expediency over Justice and Human Rights is the norm. Resorting to force is natural for the one who is currently the Most Deadly Armed Country. Wisdom, Compassion, Justice and Equality do not need experience. It is easy for even a student to practice. Lets go back to teaching of the Old and New Testament and this is enduring as well as it will rally change the whole world around these life long virtues – Go back to the spirit of Love and Forgiveness as clearly exemplified in the Bible. Simple thinking will change the mindset of seasoned politicians and come down to earth and so much energies and resources can be used to make this world better. We don’t need another 4 years of hard liners and ideologues. We need leaders who will lead by justice, bring peace and make this world better for smart and not-that-smart. For this only Obama can qualify. Too smart too articulate, too much good attorney can not be trusted for speaking truth. They know how to prove wrong right and this is dangerous. Jesus didn’t use force which He could have, but instead led by compassion, justice, equity and above all forgiveness – that is why Christians have progressed and advanced so much, because of their belief in Lord and His Ever Enduring and Illuminating Light to the Mankind. If you apply the current day principles, Jesus would not have got even 1% of the vote, so let us go back to Fundamentals and strengthen the bond of Love, Brotherhood and Friendship and Make Dream of Jesus Come thru. This is also the American Dream. Long live USA and all its Friends and All its Enemies become Brothers too with Ideals as prescribed by the Lord. Let us give a chance to this Dream by electing Barack OBAMA.

Posted by: Seif A. Somalys | February 2, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

Michelle Obama got paid be Treehouse for doing no work and she sat on her hands and said nothing.
Michelle Obama got paid.
Michelle Obama got thousands of dollars in TreeHouse stock.
Michelle Obama said nothing when Latino’s lost their jobs.
Michelle Obama did nothing to help Latinos.
Michelle Obama got paid, kept quiet, enriched herself and her family while Latinos suffered.
No CHANGE there !!!!!!

Posted by: Jose | February 2, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

One of the difficulties that Hillary has faced this whole campaign is that everything she or the former President has stated has been overanalyzed, critized, and opinded about while many of the remarks that Barack Obama and Michelle Obama has either been taken at face value or have not been discussed. An example of this is when Michelle was on CNN last night. She stated that Barack and her do not see politics as a game or as a sport and they will not do what others will do in order to be elected. Of course no one asked her or even brought up the Obama’s campaigns use of Republican like tactics when it comes to Hillary Clinton’s health care plan by using the “Henry and Louise” type literature, the mailers attacking Hillary over NAFTA when she was not even in the US Senate when it was passed, the radio ads in Nevada that said Hillary did not respect the Hispanic community, or even Barack himself saying that Hillary votes with Republicans when this is obviously not true. I also have to wonder why the press is so adapt to say that Hillary is willing to say or do anything to get elected and then show examples of this but does not look at what Obama or his campaign says or does and how this is done in order to be elected as well

Posted by: Eric | February 2, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Yes Eric! Tell it like it is!

Posted by: Irma | February 2, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

Michelle Obama seems classy, intelligent and as devoted to straightening out our country by ending the corporate lobbyists rule over Washington as her husband.
To Eric, Hillary championed NAFTA along with Bill Clinton. I remember it, as it was when I first realized this couple in the White House didn’t have the working people of our country first in their heart but ‘worked’ for corporate America. NAFTA benefited Tyson Foods and Wal-mart, two huge contributors to their campaigns. As for Clinton’s health care plan, forcing us to buy it is just plain wrong. Listen to the words, that ‘affordable’ health care will be available and everyone must buy it. Who will judge what is affordable? To someone living in an expensive part of the country, paying high rent, they may not have enough left over to buy it on the same pay as someone living in a lower cost of living area. What will be the consequence for disobeying… garnished wages? With Clinton taking huge donations from the health insurance companies themselves something smells fishy there. Barack’s organization did not okay the radio ads put out in Nevada, they were done by independent supporters. Has anyone asked the Clintons about all the bogus e-mails sent out with falsehoods about Obama. Of course not, they aren’t responsible. And on the subject of Clinton voting with Republicans, she was one of the few Dems who voted yes on the IRAN resolution. Do we need another crazy war? And why didn’t she learn from her mistake voting for the Iraq resolution?
Obama has my vote.

Posted by: Lydia | February 2, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

CATLADY, the Republicans have increasingly bought out newspapers and media to continue the bombardment of selling candidates to the people. That’s what happened with Bush. It is happening now with Obama, not flattering but true. They’re setting him up. Karl Rove left the administration to work in the paper. They are using the media to make and break candidates. We saw it happen to the Clintons and people who actually read and researched for themselves knew. You need to view some of Bill Moyers “Now” episodes that elaborate on all this. There are also plenty of books and articles on this subject.

Posted by: irma | February 2, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

She is already winning. She beats McCain and Romney in most polls. If it’s Romney, she’ll get independents if it’s McCain, the right wingers may not support him, that will propel her votes.

Posted by: irma | February 2, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

Unlike Ms. Clinton, Mr. Obama isn’t relying on his spouse’s brand name with the people or his spouse’s political and financial connections to succeed. Instead, Mr. Obama is a self-made man. Quite a difference indeed that these 2 spouses play.

Posted by: Barry | February 2, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

USA is falling back and needs a president who can fix it now and not a president who dreams that someday it is going to be fixed

Posted by: ermien | February 2, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

Thinking that a vote for Hillary can put aside the Bill issue is naive. Bill is the baggage that gets elected along with Hillary. Not only will Bill make trouble, but the country will once again be caught in the middle of a famously strained marriage.
The potential for constant distraction and dysfunction is pretty clear. In a codependent marriage the spouse who makes trouble gives the other spouse an excuse for not rectifying problems. A Hillary vote is highly irresponsible in these circumstances, womb or no womb.

Posted by: Iris | February 2, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

How can Michelle really comment on Bill Clinton aledged racist baiting. It was Michelle herself who stood on stage and pronounced “It’s Our turn now” Does anyone dare ask her what that was refering to! I think not, no one has the strength to ask a black woman about her racist remarks. I found it to be very offensive. Bill Clinton never disrespected anyone. It was the press that took a spin on his words. How about somebody reporting on the truth!

Posted by: Deni | February 2, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

i fear for obama because it is a man we noting of and that only is dangerous and his promise is a fake,quote me anywhere.the devil we know is better than the angel we didnt know

Posted by: obisanya tunde | February 2, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

Hillary is running for an office in which she’d wear the political pant in the family. I think Billy should just stay in the background and smile and just look pretty.

Posted by: stan | February 2, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

Maybe Bill should just hang out with the girls. He knows how to do that!

Posted by: stan | February 2, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

Stan, I agree with you. However, I also think he should use his charm skills as foreign diplomat, in a very limited manner, naturally.

Posted by: irma | February 2, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

Stan, I don’t agree with the second post about the girls. Although, the girls might want to.

Posted by: irma | February 2, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

Bill; interesting
Michelle; dull

Posted by: irma | February 2, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

I saw an interview with Michelle on CNN. I was not impressed with her. Kind of seemed curt and reminded me of how Nancy Reagen could smile but actually cut you with a knife. Who did the interview on ABC? I have only seen her interviewed by black women. I’m not sure why this is.

Posted by: GES | February 2, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

who is Obama,do we really know? Why,I question who and what makes him preident material,nobody in politics is as clean as he is represented are we so ready for so called change we americans don’t want to know his rise in politics, maybe we deserve Bush. Hillary Clinton, she’s been around for decades,we americans know here backround,considering all of the dirt the news media could dig up none disqualifies her from being elected president.During her debate she stated, it took a Clinton to clean up after the first Bush ! it will take another Clinton to clean up the 2d Bush mess. THOSE COULD BE THE TRUEST WORDS SPOKEN in this entire campain.

Posted by: John Coyle | February 2, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

Reading through these posts, there are a number of points made that are extremely disheartening.
As a supporter of Barack Obama and-yes, a black man- I am tired of having to defend my vote against those who write it off as an alignment with race. I don’t hear many women having to make the same justifications when they support Mrs. Clinton, OR those who support her due to an association with Bill’s administration for that matter. I’m not saying that there are not those out there who are voting for him because he is black, but the fact of the matter is, many have fallen victims to their prejudgments. Why should one group be held more accountable for theirs? It calls to questions my ability to make judgments on issues, and it’s upsetting.
And for those who feel like Obama has made an issue of race, I’ll say this: It IS an issue. Not because he has made it one-he doesn’t have to-but because race is an issue that is deeply rooted in American culture and politics. It’s a narrative that was written along time ago. When I step out, before I’ve stated my case, I am seen as a black man first and foremost. That’s just the blunt reality of it. So as much as we like to all think this is not about race, we have to remember that race will always play a part in our political structure. Like it or not.
And for those who say that they don’t know enough about a particular candidate I say get proactive a do a little research. There is enough information out there to inform ourselves.

Posted by: J.D. | February 2, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

Bill will be too busy to get involved in Hillary’s governing. Someone has to plan the menus for the state dinners. Isn’t that the job of the First Lady. At the very least he’ll have to arrange the caterring from McDonald’s. Sorry, but I had to throw in some sarcasm. I just hate the thought of Hillary and Bill in the WH again.

Posted by: mr. first lady | February 2, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

Mrs. Obama carries herself with class.
Princeton grad and Harvard Law school, yet grounded and obviously committed to her family.
What a blessing!

Posted by: Georgianna | February 2, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

I don’t know much about Michelle but I know what Bill has done since he left office. He has acted like a senior statesman and rendered great service to the most disadvantaged around the world. He helped aids patients both in Africa and Asia. I feel more respect for him after he has become an ex-president. Bill has no need to do all the good work he has been doing since leaving office. But he dedicates his time and energy to continue the work of helping the disadvantaged. He has won America some residues of goodwill and repsect in this era of “America-loathing” in the world.
All presidential spouses deserve our respect as they have to endure an impossible schedule. But Bill deserves specialy credit for all his work for the world before the campaign, specially after he has had such a bout with heartattack. He has the respect of the world which no presidential spouse can claim.

Posted by: Frank | February 2, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

I don’t know much about Michelle but I know what Bill has done since he left office. He has acted like a senior statesman and rendered great service to the most disadvantaged around the world. He helped aids patients both in Africa and Asia. I feel more respect for him after he has become an ex-president. Bill has no need to do all the good work he has been doing since leaving office. But he dedicates his time and energy to continue the work of helping the disadvantaged. He has won America some residues of goodwill and repsect in this era of “America-loathing” in the world.
All presidential spouses deserve our respect as they have to endure an impossible schedule. But Bill deserves specialy credit for all his work for the world before the campaign, specially after he has had such a bout with heartattack. He has the respect of the world which no presidential spouse can claim.

Posted by: Frank | February 2, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

The level of this campaign in some quarters is like this comparison, silly and absurd. Each spouse is unique and has his or her own contributions. But what does the whole world know about all the spouses? Bill is well-known, liked and respected to a large extent in the world. Bill will be the best goodwill embassador who can restore the nearly totally distroyed American prestige and goodname in the world.

Posted by: lewis | February 2, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

I am a 72 year old Democrat and the biggest mistakes I remember was voting for Bill Clinton. I remember his lack of action in Rawanda and the 3/4 million lives lost. I remember his NAFTA sujpport and the millions of jobs shipped overseas. I remember him taking credit for the Bush admistration sucess in moving our ecomomy forward. I remember his lies about Monica and the other women he preyed upon. I remember Hillary’s choice to stay married for her own polical ambition.
Bill’s unused office in Harlem was interesting. It was supposed to cement his relations for Hillary’s future run for the President. Bill is a charming sociopath who rented the Linclon Bedroom for campaign donations and sold a pardon to Mark Rich for $250,000.00. Not bad for a signature. Or his envolvement with his friend Ron B. that will net him tens of millions of dollars for future favors. In short the Clintons are the lowest form of life. People who will sell out the United States for their ego and the highest price they can get. I will not make the same mistake again. If Hillary Clinton is the Democratic choice I will vote Republican for the first time in my 51 years of voting..

Posted by: kenneth tuch | February 2, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

who is these woman ? no one know who she is ???????? she will never be like bill

Posted by: john | February 2, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

Senior Statesmen? Bill?
He’s been jetting around with millionaires adding to the Clinton coffers. From broke (legal bills) leaving the White House to almost $35 million.
And, he still will not release the donors to his ‘charity foundation.’ How much of that money is from Arabs, and Waltons,and special interests? America, wake up.

Posted by: Jan | February 2, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

By the way, Nixon was the one who has created the whole nasty mess of HMOS. Nixon hated Americans and when he heard that Keiszer had a plan which could give Americans less medical care for more money, he was all ago. Bill does not hate people, specially Americans. Wonder why this poor guy was so angry when he heard that he and Nixon are of the same kind. Whoever made this comparison should have his or her head examined and given a simple history book about the 1970s and 1990s.

Posted by: tony | February 2, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

JD I pretty much agree with what you are saying and I to am frustrated by people not reading and researching but continually speaking. The irony is I am a white female and everyone assumes my preference for Hillary Clinton is because I am female, or labelled racist – not just white or my personal favourite poorly educated. I have defended Sen Obama against ignorant assertions (eg: muslim etc) I have made my choice based on policies and my assessment of the candidates credentials. The sad reality is with a female candidate and a black candidate unfortunately race and gender were always going to be an issue. Maybe this will eliminate the issue for future elections so know one will cast a vote based on the “first” anything.

Posted by: Exactly | February 2, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

I’m a young Hispanic female, and very concerned over responses about Michelle Obama being interviewed by “Black” reporters. I don’t see comments about the Clintons being interviewed by “White” or “Female” reporters. It’s not Obama, but people like these (including the Clintons) who keep bringing up race. Since this is the case, I cannot trust the Clintons to be political representatives for “ALL” people!!!

Posted by: LD | February 2, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

Did she ask Mrs. Obama about how they bought their house for $300K less than asking price (back then that was unheard of in the Chicago housing market)? That would have been a fair question considering it’s her house to. Let’s save that one for a later date!!

Posted by: whrn | February 2, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

When Washington became president he hadn’t had any “experience” as a president.
When Lincoln became president, he hadn’t been married previously to a president.
When Roosevelt took office, he hadn’t been president before he became president!
What is this “I’ve had experience” garbage!? Enough, already.

Posted by: You Betcha | February 2, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

Bill is a great asset to Hill. vote one get two. Americans think. 2 heads are better than one. people go for buy one get one free, I say Americans vote one get two. vote for Hillary and get Bill to complement her efforts and America would be blessed.

Posted by: Tai Akande | February 2, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

January 31, 2008
Towering economist endorses Obama
Towering economist endorses Obama
Barack Obama’s stock in financial circles rose on Thursday, after winning a highly unusual endorsement from one of the biggest names in economics.
Former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker, the cigar-chomping economist who crushed inflation for good in the early 1980′s, issued a statement endorsing the relatively inexperienced Obama. The statement appeared first on the website of the Wall Street Journal, and the journal story then was posted on Obama’s campaign website.
“After 30 years in government, serving under five presidents of both parties and chairing two non-partisan commissions on the public service, I have been reluctant to engage in political campaigns. The time has come to overcome that reluctance,” said Volcker’s statement.
“However, it is not the current turmoil in markets or the economic uncertainties that have impelled my decision. Rather, it is the breadth and depth of challenges that face our nation at home and abroad. Those challenges demand a new leadership and a fresh approach.”
The endorsement from one of the most revered economic figures can only help deflect criticism from his opponent New York Sen. Hillary Clinton that he lacks sufficient experience.
“It is only Barack Obama, in his person, in his ideas, in his ability to understand and to articulate both our needs and our hopes that provide the potential for strong and fresh leadership,” Volcker said in the statement. “That leadership must begin here in America but it can also restore needed confidence in our vision, our strength, and our purposes right around the world.”
Volcker was appointed Fed chairman by President Carter in 1979, and handed over the baton to Alan Greenspan in 1987. Volcker steered the economy into a profound recession in order to snuff out double-digit inflation, and thus put the U.S. economy on a firm footing for the tremendous growth of the 1990′s.
More recently, Volcker led corruption probes into World Bank and United Nations programs.

Posted by: LD | February 2, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

The L.A Times broke it’s 36 year
endorsement hiatus and endorsed Barack Obama.
Barack Obama for Democratic nominee
Endorsements for president 2008
February 3, 2008
Democrats preparing to vote in Tuesday’s California primary can mark their ballots with confidence, knowing that either candidate would make a strong nominee and, if elected, a groundbreaking leader and capable president. But just because the ballot features two strong candidates does not mean that it is difficult to choose between them. We urge voters to make the most of this historic moment by choosing the Democrat most focused on steering the nation toward constructive change: We strongly endorse Barack Obama.
The U.S. senator from Illinois distinguishes himself as an inspiring leader who cuts through typical internecine campaign bickering and appeals to Americans long weary of divisive and destructive politics. He electrifies young voters, not because he is young but because he embodies the desire to move to the next chapter of the American story. He brings with him deep knowledge of foreign relations and of this nation’s particular struggles with identity and opportunity. His flair for expression, both in print and on the stump, too easily leads observers to forget that Obama is a man not just of style but of substance. He’s a thoughtful student of the Constitution and an experienced lawmaker in his home state and, for the last three years, in the Senate.
On policy, Obama and his rival Democratic candidate, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, are a hairsbreadth apart. Both vow to pull troops from Iraq. Both are committed to healthcare reform. Both offer candid critiques of the failed George W. Bush presidency, its blustering adventurism, its alienating stance toward other countries and its cavalier disregard for sacred American values such as individual liberty and due process of law.
With two candidates so closely aligned on the issues, we look to their abilities and potential as leaders, and their record of action in service of their stated ideals. Clinton is an accomplished public servant whose election would provide familiarity and, most important, competence in the White House, when for seven years it has been lacking. But experience has value only if it is accompanied by courage and leads to judgment.
Nowhere was that judgment more needed than in 2003, when Congress was called upon to accept or reject the disastrous Iraq invasion. Clinton faced a test and failed, joining the stampede as Congress voted to authorize war. At last week’s debate and in previous such sessions, Clinton blamed Bush for abusing the authority she helped to give him, and she has made much of the fact that Obama was not yet in the Senate and didn’t face the same test. But Obama was in public life, saw the danger of the invasion and the consequences of occupation, and he said so. He was right.
Obama demonstrates as well that he is open-eyed about the terrorist threat posed to the nation, and would not shrink from military action where it is warranted. He does not oppose all wars, he has famously stated, but rather “dumb wars.” He also has the edge in economic policy, less because of particular planks in his platform than because of his understanding that some liberal orthodoxies developed during the last 40 years have been overtaken by history. He offers leadership on education, technology policy and environmental protection unfettered by the positions of previous administrations.
By contrast, Clinton’s return to the White House that she occupied for eight years as first lady would resurrect some of the triumph and argument of that era. Yes, Bill Clinton’s presidency was a period of growth and opportunity, and Democrats are justly nostalgic for it. But it also was a time of withering political fire, as the former president’s recent comments on the campaign trail reminded the nation. Hillary Clinton’s election also would drag into a third decade the post-Reagan political duel between two families, the Bushes and the Clintons. Obama is correct: It is time to turn the page.
An Obama presidency would present, as a distinctly American face, a man of African descent, born in the nation’s youngest state, with a childhood spent partly in Asia, among Muslims. No public relations campaign could do more than Obama’s mere presence in the White House to defuse anti-American passion around the world, nor could any political experience surpass Obama’s life story in preparing a president to understand the American character. His candidacy offers Democrats the best hope of leading America into the future, and gives Californians the opportunity to cast their most exciting and consequential ballot in a generation.
In the language of metaphor, Clinton is an essay, solid and reasoned; Obama is a poem, lyric and filled with possibility. Clinton would be a valuable and competent executive, but Obama matches her in substance and adds something that the nation has been missing far too long — a sense of aspiration.

Posted by: Mr. Unite Us | February 2, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Posted by: Two-cats,
There isn’t much to know. What are you looking for illegal and immoral acts he might have committed? You need not look any further than the Clinton’s, if that is what you seek. There is plenty of info. out there on both of them.
As far as the article, well of course they are different. The Clinton’s, both of them, are criminals, ammoral, etc. people……that’s the difference. We know you all are disappointed more dirt hasn’t been dug up but, well not everyone is as morally challenged as those two. And I won’t live through another 4/8 years of some “vast Right Wing conspiracy…” in order to make deflect attention from their actions and/or to make excuses for their actions, pathetic.

Posted by: Tracy | February 2, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

Of course Michelle Obama is no comparison to Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton is an Former Prsident and Michelle Obama is an overly ambitious wife raised in the south side of Chicago. It’s an insult to Bill CLinton to have been compared to this nobody, duh!!!!

Posted by: Troy | February 2, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

Vote for the candidate you believe in. That’s it, and who cares about what their spouses say. Even though I must admit Bill Clinton is a different kind of spouse because of its unprecedented nature.
I think I am strong, smart, and know clearly what the choice I should make. I choose Hillary who I believe to be the best candidate for president. After the last debate, I’m more convinced than ever that I made the right choice.

Posted by: kachiusa | February 3, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am

Posted by: Troy,
“”Of course Michelle Obama is no comparison to Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton is an Former Prsident and Michelle Obama is an overly ambitious wife raised in the south side of Chicago. It’s an insult to Bill CLinton to have been compared to this nobody, duh!!!!”"
Shame on your for disprespecting this woman. She didn’t say anything mean or nasty about Bill. Anyone else would have listed all of his misdeeds in order to list why he/she is BETTER than he is, but she didn’t do that. You are as classless and pathetic as the people you support.
In any case, this is a very accomplished woman. She is very educated and highly skilled. What do you do? At the end of the day, Bill is no more than trailer trash filth. I don’t care if he was the president. You can’t remove someone’s background from who they are.
Michelle grew up in the subs of N. Chicago. Bill grew up in some trailer park. So now who is the no body?
Speaking of ambitious wife, what in the he– do you call Hillary?

Posted by: Elizabeth | February 3, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am

Mr. Unite Us,
Maybe the LA Times broke it’s 36 year endorsement hiatus because On April 2, 2007, the Tribune Company announced their acceptance of Sam Zell’s offer to buy the LA times. With new ownership comes new bias.

Posted by: Agony | February 3, 2008, 3:47 am 3:47 am

Watching from the sidelines, i am apalled how Americans think. I am inclined to think a lot of them are naive or uninformed or got very short memories or lacked vision and depth. Was it because they grew up spoiled brats and could never appreciate blessings. I feel sorry for Hillary despite her impeccable record and performance is being thrown all dirt and the sink so is Bill who had once lorded the White House and who made Americans get America back to their hands can be so easily demonized by the media and to be crucified by the same people whom he has served. And who after White House had continued to advance American goodwill around the world could be so subjected to so much loathing and hatred. I was watching the CNN and all i could see was how hard they try to dicredit him despite just having to defend his side from the sleuthing press freedom. Obama was the the first to be offensive during the debate in SC and Hillary was just reacting with the same. Obama has the teendency to distort to make him look desirable. Hillary will be the biggest threat to the Republicans. Romney made reference to Hillary in his California ads and well Obama will be an easier prey come gen elections in November. Reps are so smart they had moblized their media machinery to make Obama win for their candidate’s easier win. And Americans are being taken for a ride because of Obama’s charisma who is lacking substance. Give Obama 8 more years to learn on how to tread the snake pit of Corporate America and probably he will be ready. But for now let’s give it to people who are more seasoned for the job The economy is so bad I am scared to hand it to a start up. Or a sensitive case should be handled by a senior lawyer who has more experience than a neophyte. Let Obama trail his blaze to glory and let him make us believe that he is not a fry in the pan. Let him show us more of the stuff he’s made of. Charisma should be accompanied by great substance to merit the presidency. Let us see Hillary for all her worth being there already habing been heavily scrutinized,opined, poked and nailed to the cross yet she still stands tall and believable with incredible class and intelligence. No one can deny the Clinton’s devotion to thins nation. They trail blazed their glory with impeccable performance We should not be sanctimoniuos holier than thous and bunch of hypocrites when all we humans can be vulnerable especially as Americans are not actually examples of sexual morality in the world. Don’t be blind people the stakes are high and the ways to solve it are not easy. It takes experience not rhetorics to get us out of the mess created by Bush. If Hillary is a bullet to bite then by all mean be it. I will not take aa poet to tell me the dire consequences I am in but iw ould like an essay of the reality of it and Hillary essays the scary truth yet calm resolved and composed. Plus of course a Bill Clinton to boot. My apologies but Michelle should not be compared with Bill, there are some sacred grounds in life worth keeping. The election is a passing thing but Bill’s contribution the the American people’s lives is already in the history books no one can ever deny.

Posted by: ed | February 3, 2008, 5:17 am 5:17 am

How can one suggest that due to Obama’s so called “scandals” the Republicans will jump all over it; and then that same person supports HRC?

Posted by: Nikole | February 3, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am

Think back to 2000. Those who support Hillary say how ‘wonderful’ times were under Billy. Let’s face it folks, Gore (a Democrat!!) LOST the 2000 election because there were a LOT of Independents who were sick of the Clinton shennanigans in the WH. Sure, there was probably voter fraud and Gore should have won, but the race should not have even been close given how ‘wonderful’ the times were then. So now you want to put the Clintons up for reelction. Well, good luck. McCain will win. By the way, by Hillary’s own admission, she sat in on a lot of Presidential Staff meetings while First Lady. What makes you think Bill won’t do the same when he’s not off flirting with the secretaries or picking out the china and planning the menus for the State dinners.

Posted by: matteroffact | February 3, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am

Is very easy for Obama to defend his record, he does not have one.

Posted by: Pat | February 3, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

No michelle. You are not like Bill Clinton. You wee not the 42nd president of the united states. Or the only 2 term elected democratic president since FDR. You are a compelete NOBODY compared to Bill Clinton. Perhaps you should have said that.

Posted by: tom | February 3, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

The reason experience is so important also is because it denotes longevity, prolonged existance, durability, endurance and that takes strength. The new faces of the Obama’s are nice, but what do they stand for really? I have not heard much from Obama himself other than using the Clinton word of “change” much too often. What change? What kind of change? I have seen through many presidential campaign candidates promising change. Probably about 12 campaigns where the ” c” word has been used. There is never an explaination on what kind of change, nor how will change occur? Mrs. Obama doesn’t seem to portray the word change. She is a black woman, married to a black Senator, who has friends like Oprah financing his campaign against a woman candidate. That is all we know at this point, and one has to take the ” c” word into context and with no definition on how that change will occur – it just seems like a very hollow overused word.
To compare Obama to JF Kennedy is like comparing apples to oranges. There is no resemblance other than age which is not the test of a President, nor a valid argument for change. George W. Bush ” changed” things drastically for the worse, and yet it was enormous change, but was it good for the country?
George W. Bush was also inexperienced with foreign policies other than he destroyed them.
Was that change? Yes it was.
Change is a idealogy that needs to be defined about the quality of change.

Posted by: Teri | February 3, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

The day after George W. Bush was re-elected supposedly although I believe they tampered with the voting process again like in Florida, there was a British tabloid with Bush’s face on it.
The caption below his pictue was:
How can 52 million Americans be so stupid?
Indeed, I hope that tabloid does not have another picture on it after super Tuesday. It would be Obama’s picture on the front cover.

Posted by: Teri | February 3, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

I just thought I’d say that to attack Michelle based upon the magnitude by which Bill Clinton’s celebrity dwarfs her mere existence… That is part of the sweeping change I like about Obama’s campaign: restoring things back to a time when the addage that Anyone who was good at a thing or two and an American citizen could become the President.
Historians wouldn’t dream of taking the crown of “Top 5 Greatest American President” away from Abraham Lincoln, and he was born in a log cabin and accomplished things in much the nitty gritty way Obama did.
If you’re concerned that Obama would be a simpering ninny doing on-the-job training, I’m sure being a constitutional lawyer gives you some idea of how the President functions and he has a rather comprehensive plan for everything on his website. His campaign is telling us that we are now going to be expecting competency in the branches of government that help him succeed as a President. This isn’t all about him. It’s gonna be about us, and I think that’s what worries some people. I think his number of inactivities throughout the years have been more of a reflection of how powerless some of the exercises of being part of the lower branch of government may have appeared, and he has spent more time trying to figure out how to broaden the horizon for the Democrat that doesn’t have enough of a majority to get anything done in their states.
Some folks want Hillary because she looks like another person onto which the burden of hard work can handed off, in an idolizing role as “our next leader.” I like how much accessibility Obama wants to give the broad public in watching where the money goes in Washington. Whatever Obama got caught up in has never reached the stratospheres of most other candidates. He’s a mere $2.5 millionaire and everyone else is worth eight figures…

Posted by: AJ | February 3, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

I’m voting for Obama because the state of the planet right now is not one which calls for preoccupation with the business as usual politics of before. If he’s going off on soaring flights of fancy about empowerment of people, it’s because after seven years of finger-pointing, America seriously needs to sit down and take a good hard look at itself and that which sits around it. That’s what Obama is trying to make us do. Hillary not so much so. She’s wanting to come along and be everyone’s Wonder Woman. And though she might have an administration that will continue to be a broadly agitating presence, continue to incite the worst in Americans (whether she has anything to do with it or not), as long as she can make it look glorious by the end, that’s all that will matter.
We don’t need the Clinton crap right now. It’s totally beside the point in a time where the world is literally falling apart. Hillary and Obama both have establishment-esque plans, so there’s hardly any difference. “experience” isn’t the difference. The difference is that I’m still not seeing Hillary hell-bent on going on the warpath against the various things that make our government seem unreachable and closed, as long as she can still benefit.

Posted by: AJ | February 4, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am

Martin Edwin Andersen’s comments in response to this excellent ABC article and his endorsement of Barack Obama was simply outstanding.

Posted by: John J Hay | February 4, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am

Indeed, I hope that tabloid does not have another picture on it after super Tuesday. It would be Obama’s picture on the front cover.
Teri, you echo my thoughts exactly. The mainstream press, liberal blogs and the more radical wing of the Democratic party have glommed on to Obama as if he is the second coming. He is a man. A fallible one. And his annoying wife needs to shut her trap. Maybe is she MET Bill Clinton, she could have some inkling of the political acumen she and her overwhelmed husband are up against. You can rant on and on irrationally about hating the Clintons, but they run circles around you as you are wasting your energy on mindless emotions.

Posted by: ME | February 4, 2008, 4:43 am 4:43 am

Shame on your for disprespecting this woman. She didn’t say anything mean or nasty about Bill. Anyone else would have listed all of his misdeeds in order to list why he/she is BETTER than he is, but she didn’t do that. You are as classless and pathetic as the people you support.
Disprespect cannot be shown to someone who dares even try to make a comparison to an ex-President…she and him are out of their leagues.

Posted by: M | February 4, 2008, 4:50 am 4:50 am

Moreover, some of us around here are still trying to figure out her huge and unexplained jump in salary at the University of Chicago Hospitals, shortly after her husband was elected to the Senate. Something a bit odd was going on there, and we Chicagoans, especially the residents of Hyde Park who receive their medical care at that expensive hospital, have never been told what. We’d like it explained
It won’t be…not by media who will ignore any slight hint of negative comment about him, for fear of alienating voters and seeming “racist”…well, we don’t play that PC game here…this is something that needs investigation, no holds barred…Ms. Obama is free to comment how she compares to Bill Clinton, whether we even care is another matter.

Posted by: ME | February 4, 2008, 4:54 am 4:54 am

Since Michelle Obama stated that she will not support Hillary Clinton if she wins the nomination, does that mean she will support the Republican Party? Her petty remarks make it clear that she is clearly not ready to be the First Lady and perhaps being a politician’s wife is not her calling. Her remarks were not worthy of a Presidential Candidate’s wife.

Posted by: Marilyn | February 4, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

Michelle Obama is a strong outspoken spouse.
Bill Clinton is a power hungry attack dog.
He just wants to get back in the white house so he can have his pick of all the interns again.

Posted by: smartlatinovoter | February 4, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

Who does Mrs. Obama think she is to even makes the samllest comparision of herself and President Clinton. The Ego for her and her husband is running a muck….give me a break. You and your husband are lightweights…that have the U.S. believing your the future. Give me another break….go home both of you and get some seasoning….and put your Ego away…especially Mrs. Homemaker….and Never think you could in any way be compared to and X president…. our country HAS to have someone who can get things done….and frankly the Clintons both know how to do that….do you Mrs. Obama? I think Not…We need to hope this country finally see’s thru the smoke and mirrors…but they did not for 2 terms for Bush…now the new guy in town thinks he can make it right becasue he has all the answers….what are they? Thats one thing we have not heard out of your mouth…just smiles. Good luck America another nice guy…that will clean up our problems….Do not fall for this something new…Save me from you pie in the sky guys…Been voting for almost 50 yrs, and this one is the most important…do not make another mistake and elect Michell and Hubby….

Posted by: JAN ODELL | February 4, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

From the looks of these emails, you’d think that Michelle stomped all over Bill Clinton. Michelle never tried to compare herself to Bill Clinton, rather the media tried to corner her into providing one. People, take a deep breath and reread the article:
“Absolutely not,” Mrs. Obama told Roberts, when asked if it was accurate to compare her approach to that of the former president on the campaign trail. “I’m a very different person. I don’t know Bill Clinton. I’ve never had conversation with him. I can’t dissect who he is.”
Plain and simple. Geez!

Posted by: Paige | February 5, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

Well it’s easy to say that Obama lacks experience but I can’t understand what we mean by “experience” when it’s been mentioned.
Someone was saying that we don’t know what Obama is like under pressure…I guess you should try becoming the Harvard Law Review Presdent and see what it’s like.
This election is not about race or gender, it’s about elcting a person that can take America forward.
We all have our flaws no one is perfect…but some people are more perfect than others.
Ruling a country like America should not be about playing politics as that decision affects other parts of the world.
What we should do as the voters should be to make sure that the most competent person wins, putting all our biases aside.
Some of us seem to be carried away by the people instead of looking at tha substance they offer.

Posted by: Ezekiel | February 5, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am

Experience? what is experience ? How about Dick Cheney ? how about Rumsfeld ? Now see the world they got us in. Obama has life experience, culture experience, struggle experience …you cannot learn them from a book. It was about time for a Guy like that to lead the world. you are talking about pressure? from whom? That is why he is talking about “empathy deficit”. He did not come to fight against the republicans. He is the “chosen one” because he and we all believe that everybody has to be involved in the process, for a common purpose. Until folks stop thinking selfishly, America will still be in this mess.
Hillary will be a good president, that is true. But she will not be a great president. Obama will be a mirror for the whole world, because everybody will see himself in this guy. He will have to lead by example. No need to fight, no need for arrogance.

Posted by: James Dean | February 5, 2008, 6:39 am 6:39 am

Mrs O maybe fooling a lot of people but she doesn’t fool me when she commented about Mrs Clinton that “if you can’t run your own family, how do you expect to run the White House”. Why didn’t the media make a bigger deal about this from Mrs. O’s stump speech on Jan. 23rd [give-or-take a day].

Posted by: Dianne Mcclure | February 9, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

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