More on that Canadian Television Story About Obama and NAFTA

JT, the link does not work.
Thanks

Been following this story. thanks for keeping us up to date. The American people deserve to know the truth about what Obama and his campaign are up to.
This NAFTAgate story is develpoing into something that could be a problem for Mr. Obama. Once again, it’s about a lot more than NAFTA. It’s the measure of the man’s character that comes into question. Saying one thing in public to the American people in order to to get vote, then promising a neighboring government something else. It’s anything but a new kind of politics.
From CTV…
The Obama campaign told CTV late Thursday night that no message was passed to the Canadian government that suggests that Obama does not mean what he says about opting out of NAFTA if it is not renegotiated.
However, the Obama camp did not respond to repeated questions from CTV on reports that a conversation on this matter was held between Obama’s senior economic adviser — Austan Goolsbee — and the Canadian Consulate General in Chicago.
Earlier Thursday, the Obama campaign insisted that no conversations have taken place with any of its senior ranks and representatives of the Canadian government on the NAFTA issue.
On Thursday night, CTV spoke with Goolsbee, but he refused to say whether he had such a conversation with the Canadian government office in Chicago. He also said he has been told to direct any question to the campaign headquarters.
CTV has now reconfirmed the story. That is not good for the Obama campaign. The CTV report IS news. And naming Obama’s senior economic advisor is a big blow. The Obama campaign will try and spin this, but the fact Goolsbee refused to deny it and pointed all questions to the campaign speaks volumes.
Ben Smith, time to update your thread on NAFTA. Been reading the update on several blogs late last night. How long will the rest of the MSM remain silent on this breaking news?
This IS news! Glad to see ABC have the courage to report it!

The Obama bandwagon needs to consider this revelation. Is it true. If so, would H. Clinton be charged as unfair if she used this info while campaigning?

I guess Obama and his FOREIGN policy deals are falling short. I guess your LACK of experience is showing. I think his integrity and not being honest is something to be worried about.
I don’t think he can lead our nation at this time. I think Obama is not fit even carry on any sort of agreements with Canada. This is so embarrassing, to think this man is going to help change our natioin..
Canada this morning in their news confirmed this and I doubt they are lying. Obama is not reay to handle NAFTA only by words not by action.

Just words…is all he have to say to Canada. During the debate it was just “rhetoric and just words” don’ take my words seriously. I will never pull out of NAFTA just words.
This is insane, and humiliating. I am not going to vote for this man and his shady back door deals that he can’t even stand for.
How is he going to attack this one?
Obama is crumbling due to lack of experience and lack of understanding politics. He might give a great show in a arena but when it comes to policies and nitty gritty things well it comes down to experience.
This too me sounds like he was trying to please both parties and the other party exposed him. Good for Canada!!

Barack Hussein Obama kept bashing Hillary over NAFTA and blamed Bill Clinton for it.
Then right under our noses he lies.
I wonder what other deals and promises he has told the rest of the world?
Only time will tell.
Unfit to run a country if Canada is coming out telling you what a two faced man you are… ACCOUNTABILITY!

Well Deny Deny deny when you blunder and make a fool out of yourself.
That obama to me shows what incompetent leader you are and how unfit you are to take over the white house.
You pride yourself in saying that DC politicians are crooks and bandits..Well Sir, you frankly looked just like a DC politician.
I think you need to rethink how you are going to handle Foreign Policy, so far mmm you have come short and you are def. not my choice of politics.

Obama will not make a good President.
Being unable to make a deal with Canada and then lie to USA and them, proves he is two faced and a weak leader.
Look at his record in Illinois he could not stand for anything just sat there and clicked a button.
If you want to earn the title of President Barack Hussein Obama this is not the way to get into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. You are not trusted and yep this looks like REZKO politics as usual

NAFTA was such a hot topic for Obama, what happened? I guess Canada happened, did you think Canada would be quiet just like the MEDIA here? I guess not, this makes you a fraud and a clown. Geez you are running for president showed the worst in a politician. The fact that you told a BOLD lie to us in the debate and then promised Canada that ooh well its just “Rhetoric, it will never happen” tells me what a two faced man you are.
How is the Master Spinner David Axelrod going to handle this? Whom can he blame for his incompetent leader…who can he deflect this scandal on… Nobody but yourself.
Obama has shown to the American people that we can’t trust him, we can’t trust him on foreign policies, and most importantly that he is not for Change, he for getting himself elected and not really for the people.
Making big time mistakes like this in a big arena, displays your character and your association with Rezko. Its clearer and clearer to me everyday who you are. Now I understand why the media is covering up your background and people you hung out with in Chicago.
I wish we would now more about you and peal off the onion because inside there is a very shady leader who will do and say everything to please people. This is not what AMERICA wants nor will ever accept as their President.
I will be very curious to see how you will take on this story..Are you going to say this was a “bone headed thing” well Obama you said I am ready from DAY ONE to LEAD this nation: my answer NO!
you are not and never will be.
Go back to Rezko and your friends in Chicago. Your insight that you boast about is not lying to the American people and Canada. Go back to Chicago and grow character and honesty

Noooo never never will I vote for this man! The mistakes and ticking off Canada is not something you do on a election!
Wow! I’m done and hope and pray he will never become a president!

If you as you claim are READY and RIGHT from day 1, then why did you make this back door deal with Canada?
Why did you lie?
Why did you say one thing on the debate and another to Canada?
Why can’t you be held accountable?
Why do you think you can lead this nation?
What makes you so qualified to be the next President if you can’t even address a simple thing as NAFTA?
When will you wake up and realized you have duped USA and willingly withdraw your candidacy. You are the most inexperienced candidate to run for presidency. The mistakes you are making are big but the MEDIA will never say that. It will be covered up.
I will never give you my vote
God Bless America

I’m from Canada and this was all over the morning news and papers. I guess they are really mad at Obama for telling one of the high ranked politicians what he said on the debate is just rhetoric and that he would never pull USA out of NAFTA. Apparently he told 2 diff. stories to 2 different audiences about NAFTA.
I’m just reporting that Obama has flaws, and maybe you guys should look into this because I’m getting the feeling he doesn’t know what he is doing

Here is the proof OBama’s people did talk to them…lying is not going to get you far Obama
Obama Adviser Who Talked To Canada Named
I realize Obama’s campaign can still claim that one of his advisers went rogue in contacting the Canadians about his NAFTA rhetoric, but to me, this is game, set and match to CTV.
On Wednesday, CTV reported that a senior member of Barack Obama’s campaign called the Canadian embassy within the last month saying that when Senator Obama talks about opting out of the free trade deal, the Canadian government shouldn’t worry. The operative said it was just campaign rhetoric not to be taken seriously.
The Obama campaign told CTV late Thursday night that no message was passed to the Canadian government that suggests that Obama does not mean what he says about opting out of NAFTA if it is not renegotiated.
However, the Obama camp did not respond to repeated questions from CTV on reports that a conversation on this matter was held between Obama’s senior economic adviser — Austan Goolsbee — and the Canadian Consulate General in Chicago.
Earlier Thursday, the Obama campaign insisted that no conversations have taken place with any of its senior ranks and representatives of the Canadian government on the NAFTA issue. On Thursday night, CTV spoke with Goolsbee, but he refused to say whether he had such a conversation with the Canadian government office in Chicago. He also said he has been told to direct any questions to the campaign headquarters.
If Goolsbee had not talked to officials in the consulate, it seems likely that his answer would have been, “No, I didn’t talk to them.”

When will Matt Drudge report this. All I see is smears over Hillary and only good news for Barack obama.
Wow!

Really glad the main stream news outlets are starting to pick up on this. Especially with the releasing of the names, and when considering the high level of officials named, this is a big blow that needs to be dug into and reported on.
This is the kind of thing that matters to the people of Ohio, and I would argue shows a lot more about Obama on the whole about his character issues.
The fact they refused to deny the story and pointed all questions to the HQ shows that the Obama campaign told the adviser beforehand that if for some reason they do out his name, what to do.

I can’t trust a candidate who telegraphs his real position to a foreign government and then dissembles in a nationally televised debate

Obama Just Learned The Difference Between The Canadian Press And The US Press

Yesterday I wrote about Obamas campaign giving Canada the headsup on his campaign rhetoric on NAFTA. CTV reported that they were told that Obama was just making noise on the campaign trail and that they didnt really mean it. Obviously t…

There’s a difference between ‘renegotiate’ and ‘trash’. Don’t any of you remember all the treaties Bush pulled out of unilaterally in the early days of his presidency? He was so contemptuous of other countries he couldn’t be bothered to discuss, renogotiate, or work things out in any way. I could understand Canada wanting to know if this was going to be a repeat – and of course if isn’t.

HUSSEIN Obama is a pretty big phony. “Tell Me Lies, Tell Me Sweet Little Lies.”

Obama is the worst politician and dirtiest!!

The Audacity of Lying.
The Barack H. Obama campaign is caught red-handed in a lie.
While Barack was blasting NAFTA on the stump– His campaign was calling Canada and telling them not to worry- it was just talk.

Obama said he is not a CEO remember. So this is how he and his aides would run the country. or ruin the country.

So why is Austan Goolsbee not coming out and rejecting/denouncing this… why is Obama not addressing this at his rally.
What is he hiding from. Dirty tricks keep them coming Hussein, hope and change hopefully never in our life time

Think about it
Al Sharpton, Rezko, Jesse Jackson and Oprah will run NAFTA his Chicago buddies

Why are we to be swift boated out of this scandal. We should be aware and know the facts of this story. This shows how the Obama campaign do their deals.
I SMELL A ROTTEN EGG and nobody is touching this.
The blogs and Canada are fired up over this but the MSM is just content saying well they are not answering….WHAT!!!!

Well, the good news here is that Obama is probably lying about his plans to retreat and leave the Iraqis to their fate too.
What a tool.

Well so much for your Messiah. He’s been exposed as the empty-suit phony that he is.
And it just keeps adding up. The deeper you look at this guy, the fewer people will faint at his rock concerts.

Well, the good news here is that Obama is probably lying about his plans to retreat and leave the Iraqis to their fate too.
What a tool.

It figures that it would take the Canadian media to dig out the truth……how sad is that!!

A Canadian perspective:
Hillary Clinton’s campaign is also reported to have made contact with the Canadians. She’s not going to say a word. I think the Democrats just lost the election.
But ask yourself this, Harper is very very cozy with George Bush, so if the Canadians “leak” this, then deny it, they have learned their lessons well.
Harper is anti Kyoto, pro NAFTA, pro Afghanistan, wanted to go into Iraq (but was outvoted) and has a vested interest in the political demise of Barack Obama.

No one in Clinton’s campaign contacted the Canadians!!
Obama is a con.

Watch Fox News, they won’t cover it up, trust me.

‘just words’ on NAFTA from Sen Obama it seems, no intention of keeping his “word” to the American people, esp the voters in OH, what other words were ‘just lies’

TheRizzo. You said Hillary’s people challenged CTV to reveal their source – do you have a link on that? I’d like to read it.
The rest of whay I said still stands this one’s a Democrat killer either way.

Re: the Canadian connection.
CTV stands by its story. My only other comment for all those trying to make hay for Hillary here, is that she issued a denial just like Obama.
So why isn’t she all over him on this….
Anti NAFTA rhetoric is a major plank in the Democratic platform regardless of candidate.
I think this one hurts them both. Badly.

Our media houses should be ashamed that the foreign press is more open and concerned about who we put in the WH than they are.
Its really sad that it took the Canadians to be so open about Obama and not picking a side with this NAFTA issue, what does that say about our press when they went so far to say Obama camp was not guilty after only taking it from one source.
Hats off for CNTV for standing their ground and calling it as it is.

He is a hack and his wife is worse, I am glad and England are joining in warning us about this fraud. I think he will prioritize muslims for obama first and the rest of the american’s going to be last.
He will never defend USA. This guy is a radical closet muslim… I don’t believe it for a minute that his a true Christian. He just converted for politics. I think he is wrapped around the Saudis and will bring harm to AMERICA.

Its interesting to see How all the arabs are rallying and raising money for him even though he is a “Christian” very interesting. I think they are trying to gain political strength to change US policies and to gain citizen ship. He is will never put USA first.. It will always be ARABS first

Vishous,
What do you expect Goolsbee to say now that he has been outed and has had time to talk with the Obama campaign. Ha!
COVER-UP
Next!

I guess everyone started to remember NAFTA also involves oil and natural gas from Canada.
CTV has a great reputation and Prime Minister Harper is as close to an honest politician as you are going to get.

TomJ “There’s a difference between ‘renegotiate’ and ‘trash’. Don’t any of you remember all the treaties Bush pulled out of unilaterally in the early days of his presidency? He was so contemptuous of other countries he couldn’t be bothered to discuss, renegotiate, or work things out in any way. I could understand Canada wanting to know if this was going to be a repeat – and of course if isn’t.”
Wow, TomJ, way to spin…badly. Sure, the Canadians aren’t concerned about BO’s public assurances that he will “renegotiate” NAFTA to the USA’s advantage. Sure, they’re only worried he’ll pull a “George Bush.” Yeah, that’s the ticket.
NAFTA has winners and losers, but it has been a net plus for the US (and Canada and Mexico). Barack Obama (and to an extent, both Clintons) are demonizing, demagoging and scapegoating NAFTA to pander to the losers and protectionist unions.
And, no, I don’t remember “all” the treaties Bush pulled out of unilaterally. I remember he unsigned Kyoto which had not been ratified and never would have been ratified by the Senate. What exactly would have been the point of keeping the agreement stuffed in the drawer where Bill Clinton threw it and ignored? And I remember an arms control treaty that had been formed with an union that no longer exists.

How come this Obama bombshell is not covered by the likes of Chris Mathews, CBS evening news, ABC evening news etc etc. Imagine the same flap falls onto the Clinton or McCain campaigns. It will be “Breaking News Alert”. Someone is lying here. Maybe the Canadians are lying, but why? What a good start for the Obama “Presidency”, first people to offend is our ally from the North. – Yeah they lied about the story, don’t they. Of course, Goolsbee is being ousted as the Obama campaign point man of this story, maybe he is lying, maybe not. But why is his name being singled out here? Something is not adding up. Assume Goolsbee did say something like that being reported to the Canadians, then is he going freelancing himself or he get the vibes from Obama that whatever he says in Ohio now is JUST WORDS…very interesting story here. Maybe Obama is a typical politician afterall, he will promise one thing and does another. Too bad, the devotees of the Church of Obama will never see the light. As a HRC supporter, this story is yet another proof that there is much to learn about this Obama character, he could be the Jim Jones of my party.

as a lifelong dem who’s voted for every dem since mcgovern, i had already decided i will vote for mccain this fall. this story is just one of the many, many, many reasons we should all do the same. i don’t know if the fainting, chanting ones will wake up before november, but i firmly believe the adult ones will eventually realize they’ve been “hoodwinked and bamboozled.” but even if they don’t, roughly half of democrats have already figured it out. so, unless hillary somehow pulls it off, congrats, president mccain.

There are some speculation that the Obama campaign money is coming from Middle East. Money was donated using different names in small chunk. Be careful before you vote.

Posted by: bag of empty promises | Feb 29, 2008 1:02:24 PM
“I am glad I won’t vote for him.
Good luck convincing the rest of the USA to vote for him in the fall.
Nobody from Hillary’s voters will ever have the insanity to vote for Obama we will all go to Mccain…keep chugging away with your hope change tour…likely it will end soon. Thank GOD!”
You can count this Hillary supporter in. I know countless others who will not vote for this con if he gets the nomination. I am educated too and know a phony when I see one. I’m not against blacks either, I am black.

BUSTED! —-”JUST WORDS” BARACK????
He claims he doesn’t take money from lobbyists–But Public Citizen and the LA Times have discovered–Ooops! –he does (including a sweet little valentine from the nation’s largest nuclear producer, Exelon of $160,000–)
He claims his health plan covers all Americans–when it really only covers children. He tells voters in Idaho “Folks I’m not gonna take away your guns” but has been a supporter of gun control for 20 years.
What’s up with that?
This guy has flip-flopped so many times–he’s like the African-American Bart Connor.
President of the H Law Review? Yeah, great–but not for your grades Barry–but as the ‘compromise’ candidate when no one could agree to the more qualified candidates–after 19 votes.
Obama went to New Orleans to unveil his plan for post-Katrina recovery–but it’s plagiarized from Clinton’s plan released 7 months ago.
Not cool. Is that what they taught you at Harvard, Barack?
Now, we find he’s talking out of both sides of his mouth of NAFTA–?? What a SURPRISE! Thank you Canadian TV–at least your media are still acting like journalists not syncophants.

CTV’s story about Obama’s flip flop is correct. Lloyd Robertson is a highly respected broadcaster and so is the Reporter who broke the story, Tom Clark.
Sen. Obama’s Senior Aide did call Hon. Michael Wilson and stated before the OHIO debate that “whatever Sen. Obama may state tonight… about cancelling NAFTA…IS JUST CAMPAIGN RHETORIC.”… Exact quote. CheckCTV story.
Obama wrote in his book that he is “a blank screen and people of widely different views project what they want to believe onto him”.
Imagine having a blank screen become President.
It’d be like Reagan without the ventriloquist dummy. Hillary Clinton
may be right: It will be “change that you can XEROX”!

A Canadian perspective:
CTV reported yesterday that they have optained a document that confirms meetings between Goolsbee and the Canadian Consul General in Chicago. I don’t have links to this information but heard it on our CBC TV news.
Also, I hear Goolsbee denying that they contacted Canada. He is technically correct. I believe Canada contacted them. From there the story is the same we were told the soothing lying words.