MoveOn Backs Obama For President
ABC News’ Teddy Davis Reports: Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign has received the endorsement of the liberal anti-war group MoveOn.org’s political action group.
This is MoveOn’s first presidential endorsement.
With former Sen. John Edwards out of the race, MoveOn.org emailed its 3.2 million members asking them if they support Sen. Hillary Clinton or Sen. Barack Obama.
About 70 percent of those who responded chose Obama and about 30 percent chose Clinton. The percentage breakdown is by no means a scientific survey of all MoveOn’s over 3 million members. Only about 300,000 individual email addresses participated in MoveOn’s on-line balloting and members were required to vote within a 24 hour time period.
Obama touted the group’s first-ever presidential endorsement in a statement released by MoveOn.
"In just a few years, the members of MoveOn have once again demonstrated that real change comes not from the top-down, but from the bottom-up," Obama wrote. "From their principled opposition to the Iraq war – a war I also opposed from the start – to their strong support for a number of progressive causes, MoveOn shows what Americans can achieve when we come together in a grassroots movement for change. I thank them for their support and look forward to working with their members in the weeks and months ahead."
MoveOn will now use its email list to tap volunteers to make phone calls on behalf of Obama in Super Tuesday states. The group says it has 1.7 members in the states that vote Feb. 5.
MoveOn.org’s mobilization efforts are credited with helping the Democratic win the House of Representative in 2006.
"Our members’ endorsement of Senator Obama is a clear call for a new America at this critical moment in history," wrote Eli Pariser, MoveOn.org’s executive director in the statement.
"Seven years of the disastrous policies of the Bush Administration have left the country desperate for change. We need a President who will bring to bear the strong leadership and vision required to end the war in Iraq, provide health care to every American, deal with our climate crisis, and restore America’s standing in the world. The enormity of the challenges require someone who knows how to inspire millions to get involved to change the direction of our country, and someone who will be willing to change business as usual in Washington. Senator Barack Obama has proved he can and will be that President."
With his early opposition to the Iraq war, Obama was a natural for this endorsement once the Democratic nomination contest became a two-person race.
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Posted by: fraud '08 | February 1, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
you mean the RADICAL movement. yes I ahve long noticed the RADICAL movement show their ugly heads online. I have commented on several occasions that Obama has given hatefull radicals an exuse to exersize their utter loathing for everything and everyone. Good for him. Im sure the democratic base and mainstream media would LOVE to hear how Obama is mobilizing disgruntled RADICALS.
Posted by: tom | February 1, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
This is no surprise—–they are ultra-liberal. I’m for more conserative-liberal Hillary. If Obama is ultra-liberal, then he must be for Gay marriage. Does anyone know if he is?
Posted by: Get America Back On Track | February 1, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
I’m no fan of moveon.org after the Petreus ad…..but I’m thrilled the members voted to support Obama and I know this will help him immensely with democrats. Go Obama!
Posted by: Cat | February 1, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Hmm… I may have to rethink my certainty that the Clintons would win the nomination again. If Obama gets the endorsement of MoveOn.org, that will be huge. MoveOn.org is the democrat party’s political machine of hypersensitivity to political correctness. The National Organization for Women is going to have a fit about this sexists betrayal of women by MoveOn.
Posted by: TexBork | February 1, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
I am not sure this will help Obama. Now, or in the general.
Posted by: an opinion | February 1, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
How many folks are familiar with the expression “the kiss of death”?Sorry about that, Barack.
Posted by: Manuel | February 1, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Once again, another edorsment that will hurt Obama. I don’t know why he’s doing this???? Kerry, Kennedy etc. I want CHANGE. What a waste.
Posted by: Bill | February 1, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
This is BIG. Moveon is an energized group, and they will certainly raise Obama’s voter recognition through their organization, plus they can boost turnout on primary day. They can also run independent ads highlighting Obama’s strengths. Also, it is another building block denied to Clinton. Lastly, Moveon might be able to pressure some superdelegates to move if it comes down to some sort of pre-convention deal.
Posted by: Kevin | February 1, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
In reply to Get America Back On Track,
Hillary and Barack share the same stance on gay marriage. Neither one supports gay marriage, but both support civil unions and allowing gay couples with civil unions to have all the same legal rights and benefits that heterosexual married couples would have.
They share VERY similar views on just about all issues. The biggest difference is in health care and perhaps foreign policy, but other than that you’re pretty much free to choose the person who you like best and feel would do the best job uniting the party and also gaining bipartisan support.
Posted by: Courtney | February 1, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
“The group says it has 1.7 members in the states that vote Feb. 5.”
1.7 members? That 7/10 of a person might explain some of MoveOn’s more obnoxious positions.
Posted by: Andrew | February 1, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
The Petreus ad was disgraceful. It angered me and I am as liberal as they come. (I’m pro-choice, pro gay rights, pro-Universal Healthcare etc.) But Moveon.org is the kind of people that you would love to have on your side rather than against you.
yes we can!!!!
Go Obama!!!
Posted by: Waleeg | February 1, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
The Petreus ad was disgraceful. It angered me and I am as liberal as they come. (I’m pro-choice, pro gay rights, pro-Universal Healthcare etc.) But Moveon.org is the kind of people that you would love to have on your side rather than against you.
yes we can!!!!
Go Obama!!!
Posted by: Waleeg | February 1, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
I agree with the others, Obama has no control over what his endorsers have done. I did not like the Petreus ad either, but it does not reflect on Obama. I support him.
Posted by: roger | February 1, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Thank you, Courtney, for your response.
I have another question: in researching what “MOVEON.ORG” is all about, I went to their website to investigate…….in the organization description it says that they are a PAC, as in Political Action Committee…..now, my question is: Obama has said that he does not take PAC money from organizations trying to gain favors to get their agenda noticed…….is this true, and what are the chances that Obama will take money from this PAC?
Posted by: Get America Back On Track | February 1, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Those who seek to belittle endorsements are mostly sour grapes. An endorsement (solicited or not) does mean any sort of marriage. It simply means that priorities overlap enough to make an endorsement. If endorsements were the kiss of death, I’m sure Bush would quickly endorse Hillary Clinton for the primaries and then move to Obama for the general.
Posted by: Kevin | February 1, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
How many people voted? When was polling opened and closed? Does Obama benefit from people being reminded of the MoveOn.org ad on General Petraus?
Posted by: Eric | February 1, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
So if 300,000 endorsed Obama, that’s what, about 10% of the very liberal organization? so, to my way of thinking that makes Obama very, very Liberal. That’s OK in some circles, but across America, most people of both parties or no party at all prefer a more moderate candidate. That’s one more reason to pick Clinton instead.
Posted by: SueWKline | February 1, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
any endorsement from a group that has 3.2 million memebers can’t be called a bad one. Both candidates are lobbying hard for a AFL-CIO endorsement and they can only boast a few hundred thousand. At the very least there are 3 million people out there that will have a realtionship with an advocate of Obama’s campaign. That can’t be all bad.
Also…… Isn’t it weird how the left is moving steadilly into Obama’s corner and the right is moving steadilly (granted its slower) to Romney and ditching the frontrunners. This race is amazing. I don’t care who you like, if you are a political junkie (I was recently outed as one) this race is awesome. It seems like everyday there is something unprecedented that transpires. I spoke with an old college buddy living in London now and she says that this election is big time news accross the pond. Not for the obvious reasons alone (No Bush on the ballot, Black man and a woman both with solid chances of being the first of their kind in the Oval office) They were in awe of our process. How we elect our leaders. I am so proud of my country. This is what a true democracy has evolved to and its awesome.
BTW—yes we can!!!! Go Obama Go!!!
Posted by: Waleeg | February 1, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
He was just voted most liberal Senator for 2007, I don’t think he needed this. Mainstream America won’t elect anyont with this label.
Posted by: Bill | February 1, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
To respond to Courtney,
Obama and Clinton have a lot of big differences in the way they would deal with the big issues of the Iraq War, health insurance coverage for all, the economy, etc.
Read their websites under issues. Obama’a ideas make a lot more sense. And he hasn’t taken big corporate money for his campaign while Clinton has. She can’t really change the system if she owes favors!
I’m glad Obama was chosen by moveon.org members. They make it very easy to be involved politically even if you are busy. If you chose they send e-mails about different votes coming up in the house and senate with quick links and phone numbers to contact your representatives. It is a terrific way to know what is going on in Congress if you don’t have the time for c-span.
Posted by: Lydia | February 1, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Get America Back On Track,
Yes, that’s true. Obama does not take money from PAC’s or lobbyists. In fact, in order to donate to his campaign, one must verify that their money is not coming from a PAC, lobbyist group, or any other kind of interest group funding. This idea has been central to his campaign on ethics. Because of this, I think it’s very unlikely that he would take any money from this group.
I think sometimes candidates get endorsements from groups or publications that they don’t necessarily want, but considering MoveOn has such a large number of members with what seems to be a substantial amount of influence, it could end up working out in his favor. We may not all like the group, but we should remember that you can’t really choose who endorses you or not.
Posted by: Courtney | February 1, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Being voted most liberal by the National Journal is like being voted ugliest boy by your sister. The National Journal isn’t exactly an objective source. All you have to do to be on the list is be a Democrat with a voting record.
Also please take note….All these people that say this endorsement will hurt Obama are either Republicans or Hillary supporters. The only peoeple that will actually care about this endorsement are members of Moveon.org. With 3.2 million memebers that is still important. And any of them that supported Hillary before won’t change their mind and any of them who supported Obama before will feel emboldened. But the rest who haven’t made up their mind will take this endorsement seriosly.
Posted by: Waleeg | February 1, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Lydia,
I totally agree! I’m definitely proud that Obama has nothing to owe to anyone should he make it into office. I think the old way of doing things like that is part of a huge problem that our government faces right now. Hopefully Obama can change that!
Posted by: Courtney | February 1, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Let’s look at the details. 3.2 million members – but Move On sends a note (I’m a member so I got one yesterday) with less than 24 hours to vote to their members. I had read that they sent a note to all members on a site that heavily favors Obama – but had not received mine. I sent a note to them – then about 2 hours later – I received my “vote” note. This was very late afternoon yesterday & voting ended at 11am. Why not take the entire weekend & let their full membership vote? Why was the information about the vote only on an Obama supportor site? The story indicates that only 300,000 people responded & according to Move On – 70% supported Obama – so that is 210,000 members out of 3.2 million – that 7% of their membership. So, 7% decides how all of us feel & we will all now just start making calls for Obama – I don’t think so. Move on prides itself in listening to it’s members & making sure all voices are heard – but they cannot leave the voting open all weekend & make sure at least more than 10% of their membership votes? They should not have counted it unless they reached a certain level of participation. They had already made up their minds. I saw their data from past surveys & it was really fractured – between all candidates. I think they see some polls & saw the debate & wanted to give Obama a boost. Bottom line – the voters are going to make up their own minds & so aren’t the Move on members. I don’t agree with everything they do – they provide a lot of information & I have supported many of their efforts & candidates – but this member is voting for Clinton.
Posted by: Sand | February 1, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
This should help Obama a lot because MoveOn.org has a big media budget. MoveOn.org represents the New American Majority.
MoveOn.org runs their own ads. It will be interesting to see how they support Obama.
Posted by: E. Elder | February 1, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
I am a staunch Democrat, and I border on conservative-liberal….this MoveOn.Org is, in my opinion, TOO liberal and will not bode well for Obama. I also intellectually argue that this organization does not have THAT many members. I know of MANY, MANY Democrats, and not but one has excitedly told me that she is a member….I would also argue that many of these members are radical groups of the Democratic party, groups that want specific rights of some type or another and have to band together to become radical and LOUD to demand change. This lends to the argument that these members may be younger folks, maybe college-age. When I was younger and college-age, I was also radically democratic, but now that I am 20 years older, I have more conservative views and believe that change doesn’t have to be demanded, but can be worked for and negotiated. Change can happen without demonstrating and fighting others to get your side heard.
Posted by: Get America Back On Track | February 1, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
So, daddyblue, as a radical liberal will you fight for gay rights for me and my partner and our daughter, and will you march for gays getting the right to marry……because, though I am conservative-liberal, I am also a lesbian.
Posted by: GET AMERICA BACK ON TRACK | February 1, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Get America…there is no fight between us as there is far more trouble in the USA than your top concern. Take a seat and we will get there after more pressing problems are tackled…
Posted by: daddyblue | February 1, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
HEY MOVEON STILL LOVE YOU BUT IM STILL VOTING FOR HILLARY!MIND YOU PEOPLE THAT OBAMA WANTED TO VOTE FOR THE WAR AND FUNDED THE WAR! OK AND AS FAR AS I CAN TELL HE LEAVES MILLIONS WITHOUT HEALTH CARE SO MAYBE MOVEON NEEDS TO GET A CLUE AND VOTE FOR SUBSTANCE NOT HYPE! WHY DONT WE JUST VOTE FOR BRITNEY WHILE WE ARE AHEAD? YEAH THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE!
Posted by: Tammy | February 1, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Sand, my invitation to vote came in my e-mail, like my friends did? Are you sure you are a registered member or have changed your e-mail address recently?
And Tammy, please don’t lie about Obama. He never wanted to vote for the war, he spoke out against it publicly before it was voted on. He and lots of other senators, including Clinton have voted to continue funding it because they don’t want to leave our troops high and dry. And Obama’s healthcare plan doesn’t leave millions without healthcare unless they choose to. Hillary’s plan FORCES people to buy government insurance whether they can afford it or not. She says there will be subsidies but won’t give details. And with health insurance companies giving big buck to her campaign I’m sure no one is going to like the amount they have to pay for it, except those companies.
Posted by: Lydia | February 1, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Au Contraire, Tammy……I am ALSO for Hillary and will vote for her. She is BRILLIANT.
Don’t get me wrong, daddyblue (and, you didn’t say that you would march on behalf of us for gay rights, as you are ultra-liberal, and that is what THAT means)……my top concern is NOT gay rights—my partner and I were among the first in the nation to travel to Vermont and get a license….. I am for Hillary and am conservative-liberal because my political positions have changed a bit since my radical college days……I NOW believe that much more can be accomplished in our legislature via bi-partisan work, than to dig one’s heels in as either a Right-Wing OR Left-Wing conservative….MoveOn.Org is a contradiction to what Obama claims to be about. This organization polarizes folks, and THAT is NOT what we need in this Democratic party come November to win back the White House. We need to encourage Independants and Moderate republicans to join us in our effort to GET AMERICA BACK ON TRACK. Hillary for President.
Posted by: Get America Back On Track | February 1, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Obama is for civil unions, not gay marriage.
Posted by: dionysus | February 1, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
BTW, people don’t forget the NY POST endorsed Obama too. And he has an army of Republicans and Independents that would vote for him over McCain any time.
Soooooo, since he appeals to different interests, doesn’t that mean rabid partisanship is over???????????
Posted by: dionysus | February 1, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
The REAL truth that I have heard in a videotape of Obama discussing his stance on this question is that Obama is actually FOR GAY MARRIAGE, but he realizes that this won’t “fly with the American people”, so he opts for the less-radical “Civil Unions”, because he feels that this can be passed instead of Gay Marriage. It has been a while since I saw the video, but I can provide the link if you want…..it would take me a few minutes…..
Posted by: Get America Back On Track | February 1, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Out of the 3.2 million members that MoveOn.org’s on-line balloting process emailed in soliciting their preference for endorsement between Clinton and Obama, approximately 300,000 individuals (die-hard MoveOn.org junkies) actually responded (10%) …. Let’s see… that leaves 2.9 million other “MoveOn.org “members” (90%)… of which a sizable percentage are likely Clinton supporters…doesn’t it???
Posted by: Chioces2008 | February 1, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
I think this is huge and is indicative of the values Americans are looking for in a leader, one who puts the interest of the hard working American people above that of the special interests. Every piece of legislation Barack Obama has written and introduced since entering politics has been to the benefit of all the people, not just a particular group. While Hillary spouts some good proposals and speaks of her past record as being supportive of the issues concerning the masses, her legislative record since officially entering politics in 2000 speaks otherwise. If anyone has spent time to actually examine these candidates legislative records, not just their proposals, I think you would agree.
Posted by: GC | February 1, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Its a crying shame this same group insulted General Petreus a man devoting his life to defending our freedom. This group of liberal scum would of found some way to insult General George Washington.
Posted by: j0hn edwa | February 1, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
This endorsement will just prove that he is super ultra liberal and will move the main stream voters to Hillary. Go Hillary!!!!
Posted by: Erie67 | February 1, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
I am a member & even worked for them during the 2004 campaign. I did eventually receive my ballot – but late. I guess I was just really disappointed that this clearly was a done deal. In the past, they have held voting – open for longer periods of time. They should have advertised directly to their members with a pre-note indicating an upcoming vote was being conducted. Less than 24 hours is not long enough – especially during a work week. In addition, in the past they have only counted votes when a specified participation level was met. 7% of their membership is not a statistically accurate sampling of their entire membership. They complain when this type of stuff is done on the conservative side. I personally believe they should not have endorsed anyone & I would be saying that even if they endorsed Clinton. I do not believe their endorsement will carry much weight – they do have resources – but most people will make up their own minds or have already made up their mind. They should be rallying their members behind the “nominee” – instead by endorsing now – they are adding to the division within the party. Yes, Obama was against the war initially – but has voted for funding (which is against what Move On has been pushing). He also voted for the 2005 Cheney Energy bill – and a lot of the membership (including myself) rank the environment one of the highest priorities. That bill was a sham & something else Move On was against. I think both candidates have plus & minus points for this group.
Posted by: Sand | February 1, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Obama is full of special intrest skeltons in his closet. How can this clown serve the American people when he took Rezko’s money meant for poor people so he could campaign with it. OBAMA knew about this to..
Posted by: j0hn edwa | February 1, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
MOVEON’s “General Betray Us” ad was perhaps the biggest political blunder in recent memory.
It insured a Bush win on every issue. Now this liberal wasted group wants to support Mr Bungler Liar steal from the poor Obama.
Posted by: j0hn edwa | February 1, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
I was an Obama fan , but now with this endorsement, its the last straw. I am definitely voting for Clinton now. There is no way I am siding with radicals.
Posted by: tom | February 1, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Tom:
I think you revealed your problem….you were a “fan” of senator Obama, and obviously never a supporter….
Fans are fickle……So, support who ya want. I am a loyal supporter of senator Obama…… stuff like this don’t sway me.
How do you suspect for him to control his endorers? You come across as someone who cannot think for himself….
Posted by: tony | February 1, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
The New York Post is owned by Rupert Murdock! The man who owns Fox News. The question becomes why would the conservatives want Obama to win the nomination. Ummm…..
Posted by: Peter | February 1, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Endorsements are endorsements. Who cares?
Candidates do not chose their endorsers. It is what it is. Endorsements come flying from the sky. Some are happy surprises and some are not. Endorsements do not define a candidate.
Posted by: Alma | February 1, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
I do not know if Obama has not taken corporate money for his Campaign – he has a lobbist on his team. Yet he does not influence his thinking… I doubt that …how do you think he was able to get so much money in such a short time …I am thinking maybe he does have some corporate funds.. Change …same old same old especially with the backing of some not so new people…Kennedy..
Posted by: Del | February 1, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Let’s see, Moveon.org waits till Rezko’s trial gets postponed before announcing their endorsement!
Today the Times of London discovered: Mr Obama’s long-serving bagman Antoin “Tony” Rezko, a Syrian immigrant to the United States, has been linked to Nadhmi Auchi, the Iraqi-born billionaire who is one of Britain’s richest men. The relationship is a potential embarrassment for Mr Obama, who has made his opposition to the Iraq war a central plank of his campaign. The Times has, however, discovered state documents in Illinois recording that Fintrade Services, a Panamanian company, lent money to Mr Obama’s fundraiser in May 2005. Fintrade’s directors include Ibtisam Auchi, the name of Mr Auchi’s wife.
For you who do not know, Nadhmi Auchi is an Iraqi with deep ties to Saddam Hussein! Was also co-chair of the of the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University between 1996 and 2000 and is a wanted fugitive in France!
The trail of the newly crowned Prince of Camelot is beginning to really become more open! No wonder Obama was against the war in Iraq!
Hope this is further investigated by real journalists like they nit pick the Clinton’s!
Posted by: me | February 1, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
I’m just about as liberal as they come, but MoveOn has it all wrong. I support probably 90% of their stances on issues, but I quit them when it became obvious to me that they were merely contributing to the partisan divisiveness that is ruining our nation. It strikes me as ironic that they’re endorsing Barack, given that he’s all about breaking through the sort of divisiveness they foster. Nevertheless, I’m all for Barack. He’s an inspiring, idealistic figure who isn’t hopelessly tainted by the foul stain of Washington insiderism, and that’s exactly what we need in a leader at this crucial point in our history.
As for Hillary, I find it hard to believe that any Democratic-leaning person who lived through her husband’s presidency would want her back in the White House! Astute observers as diverse as Alan Greenspan and Michael Moore have rightly called Bill Clinton one of the best Republican presidents we’ve ever had — and Hillary would be no different. C’mon, Dems — let’s get a clue and actually nominate a friggin’ *Democrat* for once, not another Joe Lieberman clone like Hillarybilly!
As Harry Truman correctly observed, if you give the people a choice between a Republican and a Republican, they’ll vote for the Republican every time. And as for the so-called “Clinton magic,” that “magic” has a name — Ross Perot! Without Perot siphoning votes from Dubya’s daddy in ’92 and Dole in ’96, Bill Clinton would’ve gone down in flames in both elections and gone down in history as Mike Dukakis Junior! If you’ll pardon the pun, it’s high time to move on! The sooner we put both the Clintons and the Bushes in our national rear-view mirror, the better off we’ll all be.
Posted by: Richard S. | February 1, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
First off, the Petraus ad was unfortunate. Personal attacks always are. I’m sure if Move On could take it back they would. But the obsession over this ad is ridiculous. Instead of complaining about perceived slights by a PAC, why don’t we take a look at what our elected officials are doing? I’ve been to Iraq. I’ve seen people I worked closely with killed and seriously injured because the neo cons in Washington dreamed up a war that we never should have started. They planned it with military leadership who for whatever reason got the troop levels wrong. And then all the Democrats including Clinton voted for it and Iran, and whatever else the White House wanted. The ad was unfortunate. But let’s not kid ourselves… we can blame whoever we want… but we were betrayed.
I’m voting for Obama on Tuesday because I don’t want more dumb wars.
Posted by: tytayna | February 2, 2008, 7:42 am 7:42 am
I think an endorsement of either candidate in the Demo. race for president should not have been a necessary position. Demo. should endorse all in the party and let the process produce the candidate.
Posted by: vernon | February 2, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Then Obama has the playground bully on his side? Their tactics are reminiscent of the school bully that picks on those that are a little different or un-usually challenged; whether or not the target has any say in their uniqueness. I don’t see how their support will help Obama, unless of course they have an interest in getting some of what is in our pockets. It would be very sad to see Obama stoop to accept anything from MoveOn or promise anything to them.
Posted by: lorax_mbell | February 2, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
My guess is that Move-on’s endorsement would have helped Hillary, had she gotten it. It would have countered the spreading-like-wildfire perception around the country that she is a has-been, with core support only from older Democratic women, and is using mean-spirited, divisive campaign tactics straight out of the 90′s. I don’t think strident, public campaigning by Move-on will help Obama as much, since it is an extreme-wing type group, and Obama wants to be a uniter. I think the main advantage for Obama here is two-fold. First, they didn’t endorse Hillary. Second, they have numbers–people who can phone, post, and vote. Hillary’s poll leads are still there, but shrinking fast. A Move-on endorsement for her might have stopped the bleeding. As it is, she looks like she is on her way to the political hospital—if not the morgue.
Posted by: SteveW | February 2, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Romney should have dropped out a long time ago. He’s dropping in the polls and lost all momentum. Romney is wasting his money.
Huckabee is surging in the polls and the best man out there. Vote Huckabee!
Posted by: Thumb | February 2, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
So what. Just because MoveOn backs Obama does not mean that I will vote for him. Because I won’t. It is time for change. Time to change and have a woman as our president. Time to let a little more caring and nurturing give America back the respect it deserves for all the other countries we have helped and asked nothing in return – but their friendship and that they live in freedom and have a democracy.
Obama who used cocaine as a youth, who will let illegals have driver’s license and who does not give a damm about our country, our flag, our honor, who wouldn’t wear a flag on his lapel, who won’t say the Pledge of Allegiance, who has no respect for the poor. But associates with a slum landlord. Yeah, like I care about Obama. Just like I care about having a hole in my heart. He has no merits to run on. Not one thing of real importance has he accomplished since he has been in politics. He only cares about filling his own pockets and having a very beautiful place to live that was supplied to him by that slum landlord. No I will not be voting for him. I live in Illinois and Obama has not done a thing here to help us have better lives.
Posted by: pet713 | February 2, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
ACTUALLY folks,
The Vote is a Fraud.
The Emails for “ballots” go out on 1/31, the results announced the next day, with only a fraction voting in that time, and yet the numbers are merged so close you’d think it was momentous.
3.2 million members?
yet, 91.2 members didn’t participate?
its done in a timing that ignores members who couldn’t have gotten the mail in time.
If you want to understand the problem with it being represented as “move on members” backs….
Try that with shareholders and see if 91.2 percent will be ignored.
MoveOn is a sham, and this is a poor move on their part, regardless of their outcome their method sucked entirely.
Posted by: chris | February 2, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
I am a Moveon.org member and I will not vote for Obama.
Posted by: voteforme008 | February 2, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Correction: I was a Moveon.org member after receiving the email about their support for Obama. I am nolonger a member.
Posted by: voteforme008 | February 2, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
I agree with voteforme008. I was feeling like a fish out of water since as a Move On member I find I cannot vote for Obama. I had supported him since last July but recent remarks he has made have made me not trust him. I just got a call from a Move On member asking me to vote tomorrow for Obama. (too late I already mailed in my ballot)
But, I find it interesting that a left-wing organization like Move On is supporting a candidate who involks Ronald Reagan in his campaign speeches.
Posted by: change is in the air | February 4, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
I was a member of MoveOn , I thought they were for all Democrats and dispersed there Moneys that way . Picking a Candidate for us was unacceptable ,I would like to see the break down of who got what. The Old bait and switch con.This to me is a breach of Contract. I tied to Vote but don’t like calls . I am an 58 and don’t like people picking for me . do they know who is the candidates Running Mates and where did this large amount of donations go ? I have asked MovOn for donation breakdown.I don’t trust either now , the Vote was a scam and still think Hillary is best ready for the Job.I feel as though I was duped ,anyone know how there money was dispersed let me know , MoveOn is Now the Obama Campaign .I am Outside the bubble of LA and don’t get it.
Posted by: Richard Brutali | February 7, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
The emails keep coming from associates and Friends from across the County , I have to tell them , I had nothing to do with MovOn’s decision to shoot themselves in the foot .
I get the same question every time:Who in the presidential race got what money donated to MoveOn ? Along Carl Rove , The Bush Brain , Fraud comparison. Well Bush has lost his Brain and we all need to Move on from MoveOn. Obmama is a compelling speaker but who is really Ready to jump in and tackle the job , I believe Hillary is, Obama would make a great VP but so would Richardson . Now this is the next big question , who will there Running Mates be ? If MovOn is the Puppet Master,They should know,so what are they hiding ? We just went threw 7 years of a learning curve , with W ,we can not afford another Leaning Curve and that is what we will get with Obama. Hillary is ready !
MoveON=Fraud . I did see $450K Given to Obama by MoveOn ,So there should be a large sum of unaccountable Money held by MoveON , how Much Goes to Clinton ?
That is if they have not misled us on there membership ,now I wonder, has the Bush Brain secretly Moved over to MoveOn,Deception is his forte, along with fraud and misleading the voters .
Posted by: RG Brutali | February 10, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
For Tom and Tammy:
Tom: Labeling others negatively because they disagree with you is hardly the mark of an analytical mind. It’s not the liberals who have tried to gerrymander our legal system to legitimate torture. Start READING the legislation that has passed since 9/11 in the name of national security and get some experts to help you interpret the significance of specific important pieces of legislation. The Bill of Rights Defense Committee has done a good job cataloguing most of the legislation positively and negatively affecting Constitutional protections since the horrendous day of 2001. You can start your research at http://www.bordc.org. Even your hair may be standing on end when you have finished.
My own perusal of the law indicates to me that our country has never known a more vile, patently immoral, unpatriotic administration than the present one.
Tammy: the crucial difference between Obama and Britney is that Obama has a high-powered brain. He really can think, even if, he also happens to be charismatic. He knows the Constitution, too. He was a law professor for some time at one of the premier institutions in this country.
To the extent that Obama is inexperienced–and that is a factor, one need only consider where all of the “experience” of the politically experienced has led this nation in the last eight years. Such consideration puts the concern with experience into perspective. Our politically experienced career politicians have led this nation into war on the basis of lies; they have disgraced this nation with Abu Ghraib, and they have left as their most pronounced legacy to their country the spectacle of the decapitated. They have not caught Osama bin Laden; and they have done nothing to ensure that they can permanently dismantle the terrorist groups that are a threat to our country. They merely continue their mantra calling for a perpetual, undefined war on terror, continue to pour more resources than our country can afford down a black hole to the future impoverishment of our children, and do little that will really prove effective to protect our borders. The only parties sure to profit from the military spending are military/industrial magnates and their contractors.
The sell-out of real American values by the Bush administration couldn’t get much worse. Maybe, though, some people will have to experience a police state before they are willing to believe exactly how far their civil protections have deteriorated since 9/11. That is exactly where the neo-fascist component in the Republican party and their front man, George Bush, are leading the United States–all to make the world safe for unchecked laissez faire style global capitalism.
Happy reading Tom and Tammy. Don’t be too hard on the political left. They may actually have a point. Now is not the time to be sanguine, whatever our political views. We need dialogue, participation, and the wise choice of a leader who will actually look out for the best interests of the people of our country and help to ensure a constructive, rather than destructive future. Name calling, Tom, obscures the issues and fails to take seriously what has made so many people so very angry with their government. It is a political majority,not a political minority, that can no longer stand looking at George Bush when he appears on the television or speaks on the radio. Even Republicans are turning the tube off and changing the radio dial.
Posted by: DMA | February 21, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
well, I wouldn’t trust MoveON’s #’s much as I know of a few people who voted in their presidential poll and whil eonly voting once, received several emails from MoveON afterwards saying they had just voted for Obama 4 times and Clinton 1 time and sometimes vice versa. So, go figure.
Posted by: jacob | March 27, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am