Feb 18, 2008 12:41pm

Obama Campaign On Defensive, Points Plagiarism to Clinton

ABC News’ Sunlen Miller and Teddy Davis Reports: Senator Barack Obama said during a press conference in Niles, Ohio that he probably should have given credit to Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick when he used his words at a speech on Saturday night in Wisconsin, as first reported by ABC News’ Jake Tapper.

Obama pushed back against questions about whether he has ever plagiarized before. Obama said he usually gives credit when quoting people or using ideas, but he insisted that he is friends with Patrick.

"I’ve written two books, wrote most of my speeches, so I’m putting aside the question that you just raised whether my words are my own, I think that would be carrying it too far," Obama said. "Deval and I do trade ideas all the time, and he’s occasionally used lines of mine and I at a Jefferson Jackson dinner in Wisconsin used some words of his.”

When asked if he should have credited Patrick, Obama admitted he should have: “I was on the stump. He suggested we use these lines. I thought they were good lines. I’m sure I should have. Didn’t this time.”

But the Illinois senator then turned his focus on Sen. Hillary Clinton, suggesting the New York senator uses his words without his approval. "Senator Clinton has used mine as well," Obama said, citing "fired up and ready to go," as examples.

The Clinton campaign today held a conference call with reporters to highlight charges that Obama’s  speech this weekend had a striking similarity to a speech given by Gov. Deval Patrick, D-MA in 2006.

"The power of his rhetoric has been much discussed," Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson said today, referring to Obama. "So when we learned that he has taken an important section of a speech from another elected official, it raises questions about the premise of his candidacy."

"It makes those words much less inspiring; less authentic and more political," he added.

The Clinton campaign circulated a video of the similar Patrick and Obama speeches Monday.

Patrick, who supports Obama for president, has defended the Illinois Democrat for using his refrain without attribution. But Clinton’s spokesman argued that regardless of how Patrick feels, harm was done to Obama’s audience, and he compared it to an author who plagiarizes the work of another.

"I think it’s fine that Deval Patrick said that," added Wolfson. "What I’m concerned about is that the public has an expectation that the words are his own unless he credited them to someone else."

The Clinton camp believes that Obama’ s lifting of rhetoric without attribution is especially damaging to the Illinois Democrat because his speeches have played an important role in his rise from state senator three years ago to Democratic presidential frontrunner.

"When you are running on your rhetoric and the power of your oratory," Wolfson said, "I think it undermines a central" element "of his candidacy."

Obama campaign manager David Plouffe held a conference call with reporters today that was meant to be dedicated to tomorrow’s primary in Wisconsin, but instead focused on the controversy and little else.

In Saturday’s speech at the Wisconsin Jefferson Jackson dinner Obama shot back at his critics’ charges that his campaign is about words, not action.

“Don’t tell me words don’t matter! ‘I have a dream’, just words?" he said. "‘We hold these truths to be self evident that all me are created equal’ – just words? ‘We have nothing to fear but fear itself?’ – just words? Just speeches?”

Plouffe tried to explain away the similarities in those remarks to the 2006 Deval Patrick speech by pointing out that the Governor and Obama are friends, and they often share thoughts and words in speeches.

Plouffe then tried to turn the argument to Obama’s opponent. He argued that Clinton is not in a position to be outraged about plagiarism. This is a “curious charge coming from Senator Clinton when she has actually repeatedly throughout the campaign used the language Senator Obama has used.”

Plouffe charged several instances when he says “Senator Obama’s language has been copied by the Clinton campaign.”

When reporters asked for specific examples, Plouffe said they would be provided. 

Obama campaign national press secretary Bill Burton soon sent reporters an email with Clinton quotes that he argued were copied from Obama.

Those phrases include: “Fired up and ready to Go”, “Bring our country together,” “Yes we can,”  “We’ve got to turn the page on George Bush and Dick Cheney,” and “Turn the Page.”

With reporting by ABC News’ Jake Tapper.

User Comments

Now it starts for Obama, finally. Next he will charge Clinton with plagiarism for saying “Vote for me.” Said the Tin Man to the Scarecrow, “I think it’s going to get worse before it gets better.”

Posted by: OldTT | February 18, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

It’s common to use phrases that you hear that are catchy. In fact I think we all can think of words or phrases that if you hear one more time you think you will puke. ie. Awesome,dude,like totally, snap, true that etc.

Posted by: deni | February 18, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

Right from the beginning, Obama has been a man for “CHANGE”. But now all candidates are for change, even including McCain. Do I need to say more?????

Posted by: Peace | February 18, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

The problem with Obama’s words, aside from the fact that htye arent his, it is that they just are words..His words dont call into action in stopping foreclosures, getting people healthcare, stopping oil dependency. So as awesome some of the words are – the words that he has borrowed had a bigger impact from other leaders becuase they were more than just vote for me..They actually provided solutions..

Posted by: linchristi | February 18, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Obama is starting to sound like a little boy in kindergarten who is crying because Hillary took his milk. There is no copyright on “catch” phrases. He plagiarized an entire speech, but he turns on Hillary for using his catch phrases. How juvenile. This man is not Presidential material.

Posted by: Jay | February 18, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

Obama is using same technique as rappers. They get sampling of melody or tunes that stick and make it their own. Same old stuff only different artist. From the get go, I do not really see anything original about Obama. You could find lots of his phrases from self-help books or motivational speakers. People should just go to therapy if they want this kind of talk and elect someone more qualified.

Posted by: Felicia | February 18, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

Is this man a baby geez, he was caught big time using Patrick’s words rather than he leaves it alone and sit down and write something to show that he can do so he come off like a spoil kid pointing fingers ‘look mommy she does it to”, as the days go by I really wonder what exactly it is that some of you feel this man can bring to the office of President. Such petty and childish behavior coming from a grown man , Obama suck it up and move on, look at all the swipes Hillary has taken, I cant believe that you are letting a woman outshine you in the maturity departmenet, maybe Obama will go running home and cry to Michelle.

Posted by: SJ | February 18, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

Obama has stolen an entire speech ,used words to his convenience and hads the audacity to attack Hillary on catch phrases.What a low act.He should apologize or quit the race…

Posted by: VIK | February 18, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

It is true that Clinton has copied Obama’s words many times in her campaign.such as yes, we will; fired up and ready to go; turn the age etc. These are OBAMA slogans. It is very shameful for the Clinton’s supporters to bring these things out.

Posted by: I.A.T Smith | February 18, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

I left Obama at REZCO. No more need for garbage on this empty suite.

Posted by: Charles | February 18, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

OMG, can we find something better to discuss..something that means something to someone other than a bunch of talking heads

Posted by: Jerry | February 18, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

Obama is not only words but they are other people’s words. He cries change but has accepted more money from lobbyists than any presidential candidate in history. Wake up people you are falling for a dog and pony show!

Posted by: Firefighter | February 18, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

Either you guys are the least educated people in the world or you have never heard FDR say that; or MLK; or JFK- Hillary stole her line about the statue of liberty from a poem at the same dinner. Educate yourself people, do not let others influence your perceptions at a whim.

Posted by: Chelsea | February 18, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Are some of you sleeping the issues is not coping a line from someone the man took the entire speech of Patrick and recited it word for word all he did was change around the order on the presentation. If Obama wants to come off as this great leader in the likes of MLK and that is what he is pretending to be, but MLK wrote his own stuff he did not need to copy or get pointers from others to make a speech. Now that you all are caught in this hoodwinking exercise some of you are making excuses to cover up his faults, he pretended to be something he is not, he used another man’s words then claimed he makes great speeches, if he was this talented why did he need to do it that is the first question, and they other is how far is he willing to go to pretend that he is one way and not the other just to get the post of President.

Posted by: SJ | February 18, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

The story about Obama are his speeches which inspire people. Now, we find out that those same words are the words of another politican who used them in another campain. Those words did not wholly come to his mind because he felt them but because he heard another politician use them (and win).

Posted by: Jim | February 18, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Was he not the one to say that Hillary will do and say anything to win looks as if he better rethink that position because that claim sure looks like its falling at his doorstep now

Posted by: SJ | February 18, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

All you Obama university folks try and use someone else’s entire speech or ideas in your written papers and then see what mark you get when the profs find out you stole someone else’s ideas and words. Chances are you’d be kicked out of school.

Posted by: Will | February 18, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

Barack Obama tried to compare himself to Ronald Reagan, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Martin Luther King.
Barack Obama with his inexperience, is starting to remind us a Dan Quayle who tried to compare himself to John F. Kennedy in the 1988 debate. Senator Lloyd Bentsen responded to Dan Quayle with the famous quote:
“Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy, I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you’re no Jack Kennedy.”

Posted by: Angel | February 18, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

Has anyone here bothered to listen to what he said. If he was stealing lines it was from King, Roosevelt, and Kennedy.
Both Patrick and Obama were responding to attacks on their ability to actually speak well…from desperate female candidates that were looking for an issues, any issue, to take them down a notch.
If you listened about 30 seconds of the speech were the same. Only Drudge seems to think this is a big deal.

Posted by: Keith | February 18, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

Facts: Mr. Obama used an entire speech without mentioning to the public it was indeed someone else’s speech. That is pure and simple plagiarism. He should apologize and drop out of the race now. “I give good speeches”.. Yes, but they are someone else’s words.
Doesn’t matter if he and Deval are friends or not and even if he gave Obama permission to use his speech, he should have been given the proper credit.

Posted by: Jay | February 18, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

A question for Obama supporters is: do you feel inspired or maybe duped by a politican? This is one of the most important reasons people support him and now perhaps that is not what it seems.

Posted by: Jim | February 18, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

SHAEFUL TO STEAL OBAMA’S WORDS. HE IS THE REAL CANDIDATE TO WIN NOMINATION AND GENERAL ELECTION. MC CAIN CAN’T STAND HIM AT ALL. GO BARACK OBAMA ’08 .

Posted by: I.A.T Smith | February 18, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

Obama is such a con artist. He has stolen Deval Patrick entire speech and Patrick stole it from JFK and MLK. I am sick of people not coming up with their own ideas.

Posted by: C DEPP | February 18, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

For my family, it is Obama. We would never vote for liar Hillary or war monger McCain. It is either Obama or a third party for certain for us.

Posted by: rockychance | February 18, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

When what you are selling is thoughts and words and they are “regifted” from another campaign without giving credit to the original thinker then you are a hoax. He has raised a lot of money. He has a huge staff. This was not just another stop on the campaign trail, this was an important dinner appearance. This should have been enough to inspire original thinking … I am absolutely stunned that he thought he could walk through it.

Posted by: beebopareebop | February 18, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

Obama will get the nomination or at least five million of his supporters will not vote for a totally dishonest Clinton.

Posted by: rockychance | February 18, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

I think there is a big difference between using a cookie-cutter approach of hope and rhetoric, as Obama seems to be doing, and Clinton using a time-worn phrase like fired up and ready to go…everyone says that…the question for the Obama campaign is whether or not Obama’s approach is organic to him or if it is just some “marketing” gadget that Axelrod has used to help both Patrick and Obama?

Posted by: Karen Gerdes | February 18, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

If you are a former Obama supporter, don’t feel too bad. Biden was knocked off his pedestal a few years back for similar behavior, and yet he was able to rise from the ashes and run for President a second time. Maybe Obama will also do as well as Biden the second time out. (ROFL)

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | February 18, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

For a candidate who is not running on policies but on speeches this is serious business. For all the college students who are supporting him they should check their school’s policy on plagiarism. Are you starting to see a pattern of deceit with him?

Posted by: larry | February 18, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

Clutching at straws. Clutching at straws.

Posted by: hawkrew | February 18, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

Obama is a smarmy idea thief….the recent momentum thickens and slows…..soon to be a coronary thrombosis. Liars, thieves, and con men…just like the Kennedy supporters.

Posted by: willy | February 18, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

The difference is those famous quotes they both used had an actual powerful meaning behind them. For instance if “we have nothing to fear but fear itself” was in reference to dealing with Healthcare in America, afraid of how to pay for it etc… Then no one would notice. But when a Nation unjustly attacked needs to send its young men into service to defend herself, the words are indeed powerful. So much like the platitudes and rhetoric of these candidates there just is no substance.

Posted by: Dennis | February 18, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

sweet talking guy, sweet talking guy, he’s a sweet talking, sweet talking, sweet talking, sweet talking guy – why do I love him like I do? The Chiffons
guess now I know why

Posted by: american2 | February 18, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

I would say he looks like “a wolf in sheeps clothing” but I’m afraid it’s already taken.

Posted by: jim | February 18, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

He just can’t answer a question can he. It’s always being thrown back at his opponent. Is this grasping at straws? No, it’s reality the guy is a phony.

Posted by: jeff | February 18, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

Are you kidding me? Obama has copywritten the phrases “fired up” and “Turn the page”? I hate to rain again on his “originality” but I believe these might have been spoken prior to his candidacy – in fact one is an old Seger song. And every election year there is a “Candidate of Change”. I keep waiting for him to say something substantive that couldn’t immediately be printed on a bumper sticker or a t-shirt, but as time goes on, I’m thinking that’s not gonna happen. I want to like him, I really do – but damn! Give me something, man!

Posted by: Paula | February 18, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

Come on…we really need to stick at the task at hand folks. Forget the one-liners. Let’s talk about health care, people who are losing their homes, the problem in our schools. Lets ask a very important question? Are they going to continue to build a 700 million dollar embassy in Iraq??

Posted by: Karen | February 18, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

The phrase “We have nothing to fear but fear itself” was said by F.D.Roosevelt and if memory serves me, Winston Churchill during WW II.

Posted by: GrannyB | February 18, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

Are you feeling the love Wisconsin?

Posted by: jim | February 18, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

Just illustrates how pathetic the Obama camp is. He can not even right his own speeches. I wonder if he is elected who’s Inauguration speech will he use? He wants to say that Clinton uses his words-yet another illustration of his stupidity. They all use phrases like that, not ENTIRE SPEECHES! It’s time this country realizes he is not cut out for this job!

Posted by: Wells | February 18, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

It’s a non-issue. Hillary is desperate for anything at this point. Pathetic!

Posted by: dgfiit | February 18, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

HILLARY WHERE ARE YOUR TAX RECEIPTS? WHY ARE YOU WAITING TO RELEASE EM, AFTER THE ELECTION? WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO HIDE?

Posted by: jacobs | February 18, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

I just saw a preview on TV of Bill Clinton campaigning for Hillary and in the audience I saw two young men with signs about abortion. That goes to show you the upbringing and ignorance of these two men. I do not believe in abortion but no one has the right to interfere in another persons right to do what they want to do. The only way to stop the abortion clinics is for congress to pass a bill making it mandatory that all abortion clinics be closed making abortion illegal. And this bill should be mandatory for every state. But right now no matter if you are pro-life or a women’s choice they will use their own minds. Even if the candidate states they are pro life it doesn’t make a difference unless a bill is passed.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | February 18, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

I think it is clear that the Obama team has an evangelical vent and that Clinton is much more detailed or pragmatic and that is not as appealing to people because it reminds them of problems that they must face. I despise the Obama speeches. Can you tell? They all seem so phony and now that has been verified for me with this latest thing. I love the way his machine says it is not plagiarism, but rather “just sharing riffs” Ya have to wonder how that term plays in Peoria… The more interesting thing is that if this had been Hillary doing this, it would be a big topic. I guess the media doesn’t want to shatter the centerpiece to his popularity…his speeches, which it turns out aren’t even original. I guess the reality is that Obama is just another pretty face with a very, shallow, media-created image to drive his candidacy. Oh my. Just wait for that Republican machine to kick in…

Posted by: swoosie10 | February 18, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

Get a grip, people. Same campaign strategist…both Patrick and Obama have been targeted as men who “just use words” and this is an effective response, from the same campaign strategist, probably the same speechwriters. Not one politician I have heard in my lifetime gives credit to their speechwriters.
Focus on the ideas of each candidate, the policies and issues. Please. Both are intelligent, capable humans, who I believe are being led astray each by their “campaign managers” handlers, or whatever. All the rest of this is ugly gossipy baloney. Mass distractions, people, and we have real issues to face.

Posted by: anotherpatricia | February 18, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

I’m a friend of Plato and Shakespeare too.

Posted by: Mike | February 18, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

How can we get back to policy discussions when Obama won’t talk about his? He wouldn’t debate in Wisconsin because he was to busy giving speeches but now it turns out his speech was copied. When will it end? When will it end?

Posted by: jim | February 18, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

OBAMA WILL BE THE PARTY NOMINEE AND THE NEXT PRESIDENT!

Posted by: JACOBS | February 18, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

Seem to me that Deval Patrick is a lot more talented than Obama if Obama has to copy from him, look like maybe the wrong man is running in this race, while the talent is taking a back seat.

Posted by: SJ | February 18, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

Finally the “Messiah Barack” is being called on his ordinariness. Plus I like the fact that it’s now revealed that he and that failure of a governor Deval Patrick are friends, and have a lot of the same ideas. (NOT good)…
Democrats fighting each other. A GOP’s dream. And we didn’t have to spend a dime. Thank you God! :)

Posted by: Brian Yok | February 18, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

Isn’t “Plagiarism” a kind of stealing?
Hillary to Obama: You’re a thief and a liar.
Obama: I only lied about being a thief, and I don’t do that.
(From the movie “Ocean’s Eleven)

Posted by: Someone | February 18, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

Obama is desperate for John Edwards to campaign for him but John Edwards should remain undecided until he finds out who wins the nomination. I believe Obama knows that Hillary is ahead of him in TX, OH & PA and he wants John Edwards to campaign with him in those states. Obama will possibly win Wisconsin because Hillary was late campaigning there. Besides that, why was Gov. Doyle so upset about Hillary not campaigning there right away when he endorsed Obama weeks ago. It certainly doesn’t make sense to me. Well, Hillary is campaigning in Wisconsin for what I don’t know because I think her chances are slim but we have to wait and see what happens. I hope she wins in Hawaii Obama’s birthplace.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | February 18, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

Obama reminds me of one of my favorite comedians… what is his name?? dee deedee (carlos mencia rocks) Obama is a know and do nothing who has no credibility.

Posted by: dee deedee again | February 18, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

I HAVE NOT HEARD WHAT HILLARY WANT TO DO FOR US SINCE SHE STARTED LOSING. SHE NEEDS TO FOCUS ON THE ISSUES. THESE NEGATIVE ATTACKS WILL NOT SWAY ME.

Posted by: james | February 18, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

This is the most idiotic thing I’ve ever heard. The Clinton camp should be ashamed of themselves for reducing the conversation to this level of silliness. Politicians borrow from each other all the time. Every republican out there copies Reagan. What does this have to do with the bloody ISSUES?

Posted by: Roca | February 18, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

This example says a lot about the man’s integrity. He should have just answered the question directly and left it at that. Instead, he jumps on Clinton and says she copied HIS slogans. It shows what type of leader he really is. Has anyone seen Bush & Obama in the same room? They may be the same person.

Posted by: jeff | February 18, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

Hillary and Obama are both losers.

Posted by: John D, Mishawaka, IN | February 18, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

I am so glad this has been exposed. The American people need to know now what kind of a person they are voting for. Obama’s claim to fame has been his oratory…and now we find out he copies verbatim. What an eye opener!

Posted by: Two-cats | February 18, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

I’m so shocked. This is an entire speech copied. This is total plagiarism. And he can’t get out of this one by trying to point the finger the other way or call this a false accusation or negative campaigning. This is a matter of integrity. This is a big deal. Not good at all for him.

Posted by: PT | February 18, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

if obama is the party nominee the next president will be a republican

Posted by: scathinglybrilliant | February 18, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

WOW. Plagiarism at its best. BAD LAWYER!

Posted by: thinkaboutit | February 18, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

Someone needs to tell Sen. Obama that two wrongs don’t make a right. He’s portraiting himself as being above the normal politics but he’s doing what normal politicians do, people expect better from him. He’s suppose to be a leader not a follower. My mother would always ask, “If all of your friends jump off a bridge are you going to jump too”, maybe he’s not as great as he would like us to believe.

Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | February 18, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

Headline on Drudge Report
US-Islamic forum in Gulf overwhelmingly backs Obama… Guess they know what he is,

Posted by: oncemorenomore | February 18, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

YES HE CAN…. THIS SALES MAN IS PHONY…The rookie sales man is doing plagiarism. This is shame for copying somebody’s speech! The sales man is following HRC footstep when it comes to economy.
What happened between this rookie sales man and REZKO? Is the rookie will return the house and lot that he bought from this scum? YES HE CAN…. but I don’t think so because they are both scum….Blood sticker than water, YES HE CAN!
What happened to his present votes? He did not even know how to vote yes or no for a difficult legislation? This is a fact. A first grader knows how to differentiate Yes or No. It was wrong, and it will always be wrong. How can you vote for person who does not have that capacity? NO WE CAN’T…

Posted by: greg limes | February 18, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

I am an Obama supporter. Better still I am very politically active. I have seen both Clinton and McCain borrow Obama’s words long before this latest non-issue turned up.
Am I surprised by Obama here? No. I know politics enough to realise what goes into creating speeches. I also have seen my own phrasing picked up and passed around in political circles. There is nothing wrong with ANY of it.
But here is what’s wrong (and I’ll admit, I saw this somewhere else first so this is not original) When Obama is talking about ideas, why is Hillary still talking about Obama?
Didn’t someone once say something poignant about what that says about the size of people? I won’t quote them now since not knowing who to credit might allow hot accusations of plagiarism to obscure the point, which is the point of all this. Geeze.

Posted by: SE Croft | February 18, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

If Hillary spent as much time doing the job she was elected to do as she does attacking Obama, she might have accomplished something positive as a Senator by now.

Posted by: Patriot2008 | February 18, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Obama is NOT JFK in no way shape or form, Just quoting him does make you him, and does not mean that you believe the way he did, it just means that you are trying to trick people that believe in JFK to vote for you, or to like you,
Obama will never be a JFK

Posted by: oncemorenomore | February 18, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

Why is the Clinton campaign sounding ever so envious of Obama’s oratorial prowess? As a Clinton admirer, I suggest that she resumes campaigning on issues and stop dissipating energy and resources highlighting the very strengths of her opponent.

Posted by: Sulayman | February 18, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

I always waited for this comment from Obama that I borrowed a speech from somebody else for the last three months. Anybody who watches politics already knew that he never wrote it. Does this surprise the American people no it shouldn’t because most of the things Obaama has said or wants to project as a program was written or said by somebody else. Obama isn’t the one who came up with the original idea. If this does suprise you about Obama, and if you still vote for Obama you are a fool that can’t read between the lines or should I say you can’t listen between the lines. I have made the same comment I will make again ALL TALK AND NO ACTION that’s Obama way to do it. Go Hillary

Posted by: rksage | February 18, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

Every single post I’ve seen in here appears to be from a bunch of idiots and I mean that in a good way. First, for one candidate to use the catch phrase of another candidate may seem like a small item and it is. However it is these catch phrases that we tend to associate with, use as a brand or hear in sound bites that signal each candidates mantra. Therefore that appears to be more criminal. Secondly, maybe Senator Obama did use a portion of a speech from someone else who is an old friend of his. What harm should that be if the intent was still genuine? Many of us have used inspiring words to form unity among a group of people. So what if he used a portion of someone else’s text. Does it really take away from how he feels about his intentions for this country? Absolutely not. How about we keep our eye on the ball people and pick the candidate we feel can bring about real change and not another four years of the same old thing.

Posted by: RKA | February 18, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

just cause a person makes 95,000 dollars doesnt make them smart or right, Rappers make more than that, Just means somebody got you a good job,

Posted by: oncemorenomore | February 18, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

If “bad” press was actually “good” press then Hillary would have been elected already and the Republicans would just go home. Nice try though.

Posted by: jeff | February 18, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

It is easy to see how Bush got elected twice after reading some of the comments here. I must say that anyone that voted for Bush both times really needs to sit this one out because you really have shown a extreme lack of common sense.

Posted by: pt | February 18, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

Here’s a thought — no teleprompters- no cards — no pre-written speeches from any speech writers — as soon as any candidiate can just get up and speak using their own words — then we can put to rest who originally said what and when.. The point was made about rhetoric and such — that’s all.. If words don’t mean anything, then I guess Bill never really had “sex” with Monica — at least I always thought it was “sex”.. Hey — did Hillary find her “voice” this week — or did she rip off the new Hampshire voters since she used their voice as her own?

Posted by: MARK JODON | February 18, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

He did not use an entire speech. The quote does not appear exact and it is only two lines of what had to be several hundred.

Posted by: Milton Bradley | February 18, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

obama will do anything for a little free press. some con men will do anything for a little attention. in the US, one sucker is born every few seconds. obama supporters prove this so its not just a theory; its a fact. romney in 08

Posted by: dee deedee again | February 18, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

So it seems Obama is a Gov. Patrick’s clone after all. FAKE! FAKE! FAKE!
1n 2006, Gov. Patrick won due to this inspirational message of hope – Yes, we can!
After a year and CHANGE the draperies for $12,000, people of Massachusetts shouted back No, we can’t!!!
That’s one of the reasons why Obama lost in Massachusetts. People already knew what type of CHANGE he is talking about.
I suggest Obama should start doing original speech like ” I have a CON.”
NO Bama!!!

Posted by: Joshua | February 18, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

The Clinton campaign spin is doing exactly what it wants to do. It’s diverting attention away from the real issues and putting focus on petty, irrelevant nonsense. Come on American people…do we really want 4 years of Hillary Clinton’s pettiness when we have people dying, losing their jobs, and losing their homes? I’ve had enough of the Clintons. They are a detriment to our country.

Posted by: Mike | February 18, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

Everyone read these posts. They are so funny; Hillary supporters are pinching for anything to turn this race around. He only used phrases from the guy’s speech not the whole speech. By the way Deval took those words from another famous speaker called Martin Luther King Jr. That speech did not belong to him either. Maybe that is why he is not putting up a big stink about it. What leg does Hillary supporters have to stand on? On Good Morning America this morning they stated she changes her speech depending on where she is. Rewind the ABC tape for yourselves. She does not stick with one message. She is out like Obama trying to convince people with a bunch of lies. She plays to the audience. If she is winning you get a different speech than if she is losing. Like Obama she says what people want to hear. If she gets many applauses that part stays in the speech if not she removes it and replaces it with something else. Hillary is no more genuine than Obama. Basically this boils down to whichever one you like the best.

Posted by: Queen Bee | February 18, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

Why do some brainles fools in here keep saying that he copied an entire speech? He used four sentences from the speech. How is that an entire speech? Besides, he and the Mass. Gov have the same speechwriter for goodness sakes. Is Hillary this desperate?

Posted by: Roca | February 18, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

So now the conversation shifts to this instead of the idea that HILARY HAS LOST 8 STATES IN A ROW AND IS ON HER WAY TO LOOSING 2 MORE. She’s so desperate and will not be President. If she’s the nominee she will galvanize Republicans to vote for McCain. She can unite the Republican party but not her own and to think she could unite the country is a joke. MAYBE IT’S TIME FOR HER TO CRY AGIAN

Posted by: Fired up Ready to Go | February 18, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

How come Obama and his camp can say and use any words they want, and Hilliary can’t, is that because his supporters know that he doesn’t have any experience a good speech comes from the heart, Obama only reads what is handed to him, they are not his words, he doesn’t write them, so why vote for some one that preaches change, but doesn’t have a orginal ideal in his head

Posted by: oncemorenomore | February 18, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

was it over when the germans bombed pearl harbor? nothing is over until we say its over!

Posted by: dee deedee again | February 18, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

If Obama steals his words from others than it goes to reason he will need to steal his ideas to lead this great country . again like Bush we will get an empty headed president ( if he was elected)Unless Sinclair bites his head off. Our country is in a fight for its life . We need someone with true leadership and our time of need . It is not Obama . I have lost all respect for him . I will vote for Clinton she is intelligent and in command of the facts.She will lead with knowledge and conviction . A man ( Obama ) that can’t find his own words has no true convictions because he lacks his own thoughts and ideas . I will vote McCain if Obama gets the nomination

Posted by: Carlos | February 18, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

Next he’ll say Bob the Builder stole the “yes we can” line from him too.

Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | February 18, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

So he copied the words of a speech which was copies of speeches? Right. Are you people kidding me? Damn America is really dumb!

Posted by: Dawuud | February 18, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

You lost me HILL-lairy, she will not only divide the country and she has already divided democrats with her polarizing assertions and negativity. If she gets a nomination, would I vote for her, hail NO. I WOULD RATHER VOER McCain. The point is Democrats trapped in Republican trick…that is nominating a high polarizing and hated nominee in the face of Republican, so that every Republicans would rise up.

Posted by: John Elias | February 18, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

That crying line really doesn’t work ,all that does is shows she has a heart,there is nothing wrong with caring,

Posted by: oncemorenomore | February 18, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

For the people wondering about a certain name mentioned above you must search the internet. The blog will remove the post if it is mentioned.

Posted by: Firefighter | February 18, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

If you are an Obama supporter listen please, if you really are voting for Obama. Ask your self these questions and I mean really ask yourself these questions.
One, who is Obama really??
two, what programs has he come up with that are explained in depth detail for how he plans to pay for it?
Don’t read the answer on his website, but make Obama tell you this in person.
Most of the programs he says to look at on his website, WAS NOT wriiten or created by him and if you ask these questions at a rally when you attend it, you will get a song and dance answer or Obama will gnore you. That is a TRUE fact. I don’t need a speech I need a person who is gonna fight for me and my causes and will tell me IN PERSON how they plan to pay for it. NOT some website from Obama

Posted by: rksage | February 18, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

Chandra: Obama uses substance alright but what kind of substance does he use? Yes, we can was copied from someone else so when you talk about Hillary you should start with the facts about Obama. He also copied speeches from JFK and RFK and that is fact based. He doesn’t have the integrity to form his own. Wake up. Yes, we will is not a copy from anyone. What she should start saying is “no you can’t” and that would fire him up good.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | February 18, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

Many of U guys are either very dumb, or U are in this to dumb up readers! Three phrases(!) of Obama’s speech and Deval Patrick’s speech are similar. Similar, NOT a copy!!! U seem to forget that Obama was a campaign aid for Deval back in 2004. The press just loves to scrutinize the frontrunner, just to keep things exciting! Think about it, damnit! If this is all they can come up with against Obama, do U gullible female Hill-supporters really think that Hillary’s got a chance?

Posted by: Fanny | February 18, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

ANYONE THAT CANT SEE THROUGH THIS DESPERATION DOESNT REALLY DESERVE TO BE VOTING. THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN USING HIS MESSAAGE AND LINES FOR MONTHS!!!

Posted by: James | February 18, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

I encourage everyone to listen, if you have access, to Sen. Clinton’s victory speech after she won in the New Hampshire primary. Her speech mimic Sen Obama’s. She touch on every point that Obama made in his speech. Remember that Obama gave his speech first. Also, the word “CHANGE” was never part of Sen. Clinton’s vocabulary until after Obama won in the Iowa caucus.
If anyone from the press is reading this, he or she should follow up on this.

Posted by: Robert | February 18, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

You lost me HILL-lairy, she will not only divide the country and she has already divided democrats with her polarizing assertions and negativity. If she gets the nomination, would I vote for her, hail NO. I WOULD RATHER VOER McCain. The point is Democrats are trapped in Republican trick…that is nominating a high polarizing and hated nominee in the face of Republican, so that every Republicans would rise up.

Posted by: John Elias | February 18, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

Why do you think the NH polls were so wrong in the end? We were well aware that Obama and Patrick were using the same canned speeches and in the end, voters went with authenticity over recycled.
The funny thing here is, Obama accuses Clinton of being a recycled candidacy and all the while, he’s recycling speeches he knows have been effective for other candidates.
Wait til Jake Tapper digs a little deeper and realizes how many reused Bill Clinton quips Obama has used and claimed as his own.
We need to focus more on the issues and less on the canned speeches though, otherwise, the Dem. campaign for President is going to be sullied by he said, she said, they said it already!!

Posted by: Scott- NH | February 18, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

to “oncemorenomore”: Obama writes the majority of his speeches and wrote his two books, which are very good, you should check them out.
the small excerpt of a speech which Obama used was from his friend’s speech, someone with whom he has shared the same advisors. It is actually highly likely that Axelrod wrote that portion of the speech for both of them.
So, everyone who is shouting PLAGARISM and other dumb things, please…

Posted by: Sean | February 18, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

Obama is the divider

Posted by: oncemorenomore | February 18, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Obama is starting to show his true colors now that so many people choose to vote for him, Boy do I fee dumb , I thought he was genuine. I want my vote back. I really hope Hillary Wins now.

Posted by: Charlie | February 18, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

So he has to use other people’s words and everyone says he’s TERRIBLE without a teleprompter. Obama-the-Magnificent is just another ordinary man who is doing a pretty good con on the people. Why are democrats so easily fooled? Maybe it’s because they base actions on FEELINGS instead of LOGIC.

Posted by: Jo | February 18, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Obama has been SUCKED into a fight he can not win

Posted by: Latasha | February 18, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Ah, Mr. Wolfson, out to do the garbage digging. What a desperate reach. At least his sticking to a substantive debate based on the issues(LOL).
This is Clinton’s Desperation Plan point #2: Absent any licentious scandal:
a) get friends at ABC to interpret anything Obama says as sexist.
b) Make insignificant, non-character based, splitting hair judgements about such dire issues like his speeches, where he eats, or weather he’s ever sported an afro.
C) Try to embed him in pictures with Black folks as often as possible, once again with the help of ABC, to further attempt to keep him nice and black and to scare off White folks. Bill’s more direct approach backfired in South Carolina.
D) Turn him into a wonk, because that whole inspirational thing is really hurting the Clinton Campaign
I can’t wait to see Mr. Wolfson back in the private sector doing PR for Mr. Ruppert Murdoch.

Posted by: death gospel | February 18, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

This is what I have been saying, the man has been packaged, marketed, and sold to the masses. Many who have voted for him have simply gone with the media frenzy and not actually bothered to check out the career records of any of the other candidates. Since the base of much of his support relies on his great speeches,integrity, and character (as many of his own supporters point out) this issue IS important. When his campaign tries to deflect it back to Hillary using “HIS” catch phrases, that is just laughable. I do believe I have heard phrases like “turn the page” and “bring our country together” maybe several hundred times in my life (at least)before I ever heard Obama say them. By the way, I don’t think Hillary meant words don’t matter at all, she said speeches don’t get things done, it takes hard work. That is the truth, even great speeches require follow up. Washington politicians aren’t just going to run out and say “Oh, my God, he’s so inspirational, I’m going to do what he wants right now!” Especially if they know they are not really from his heart, but from some ghost speech writer who borrows actual speeches. I’m sorry, but comparing him to JFK, RFK, MLK, and even Abe Lincoln doesn’t qualify him to be President of the United States in today’s world.

Posted by: Debbie | February 18, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Once more person I agree with you that Obama is the divider, you never know which way this guy is going to vote, will it today be with the republicans, or the democrats or the independts or should i just say that I am PRESENT today, the gus is a flip flopper when it comes to politics, whichever way the wind blows, there goes Obama the follower not the leader

Posted by: rksage | February 18, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

uh, Jo, Obama almost never uses a teleprompter. In fact, he only uses one when doing more policy-based speeches where he has to recite a bunch of statistics.
His BEST speeches are without a teleprompter. I don’t know who “everyone” is, but don’t make stuff up!

Posted by: Sean | February 18, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

WOW, I am glad people are coming out of thier trans/Zombie like addiction to Obama before its to late. I knew Obama was a Fake from the beginning

Posted by: Lee | February 18, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Real men vote Republican, not for someone who makes them “feel good” because that’s what women do. Be a man, vote McCain ’08.

Posted by: Brian York | February 18, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

Same old Clinton Politics. When will they figure out it is politics stupid? Not just policy.

Posted by: john compton | February 18, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

This campaign is about the issues and who can deliver on those issues. Now that people realize that the rhetoric which Obama spews is the same as they are heard before, hopefully people will focus on who can execute. He is a politician just like everybody else. No real change here.

Posted by: Jim | February 18, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

Oh my God – if they don’t stop this trivial crap we’ll end up with that crazy old coot, McCain.

Posted by: Nancy | February 18, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

Obama even ripped off “Yes We Can” from the 1960′s Democrats in Texas.
Democrats have been using the “Yes We Can” “Si Se Puede” slogan in Texas for decades. Sí se puede (Spanish for “Yes, It can be done!”) is the motto of the United Farm Workers. it was originally coined in 1972, during Cesar Chavez’s 25 day fast.
Along with Dolores Huerta, both Hillary and Bill Clinton used “Yes We Can” “Si Se Puede” while registering Latino voters in the Rio Grande Valley as young Democrats.
Let’s say adios to the Phony Baloney Obama

Posted by: Johnny at Work | February 18, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

I’m sure that i’m not the only one witnessing the despiration coming from Hillary camp.Yes, more credit should have been given to Gov. Deval of Mass. since he was the first to use this speech in public but for all I know Mr. Obama could have given it to him since they are friends. This is too minor an issue to waste time.

Posted by: Johnny | February 18, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

As an european watching the election hype I am a bit confused by the whole process.I am no fan of hilary but I fail to understand the ”magic” of Obama.No doubt he is a good speaker but he has not had one single achievement in political life!
HE calls himself(!!!!) visionary and that is a bit like someone asking for people”s vote saying he”s brilliant! You do things brilliantly and then people should say you are brilliant.In the same way you cannot claim to be a visionary when you have no vision at all about the future of USA and have very similar proposals as clinton! Pray tell me what Mr Obama”s visons are?!! He reminds me of the britney,lohan celebrity culture where anyone who speaks well(now we know even the words were borrowed) and presents himself well can be your next president.The media loves to jump on the bandwagon just to show it can create celebrities out of nothing!If so how about making Scarlett Johansson the next president atleast we europeans will keep the her picture in our offices!

Posted by: simon carter | February 18, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

I was going to vote Obama, But not now…
I hope and pray Hillary or McCain win , Regaurdless of democrat or republican

Posted by: Bill | February 18, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

Debbie you go girl, I have been saying this alot in my emails to the news media for the last two months, that the speeches from Obama are getting the votes, but what does Obama really stand for except a great speech. I ask all of you if you REALLY WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH, listen up and send the news media questions to have Obama record put out there, for now they won’t do it because of lack of support or you people who are not asking the questions.

Posted by: rksage | February 18, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

He’s bad without the teleprompter – you may not have heard that yet, but the word is getting out. And since Obama is not known for ANYTHING other than his so-called great SPEECHES, we now know he uses other people’s words and has to have a teleprompter or he’s terrible.
Aren’t you guys embarrassed that you’re drooling over someone because of speeches and now you know he’s ordinary. Too funny.

Posted by: Jo | February 18, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

Yep, “oncemorenomore”, you definitely didn’t read the books. So you’re one of those “Obama is a wolf in sheep’s clothing who is going to attain the presidency and then destroy the country because he’s secretly Muslim” idiots, huh? Sad. What’s even more sad is that there are so many other ignorant morons like you.

Posted by: Sean | February 18, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

Not desperation Johnny. He runs on his words not on what he can do, how he will do it, what he proposes. Those words are not his own.

Posted by: Jim | February 18, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

I am NO hillary supporter. I only want things to be equal on both sides. If the shoe fits… etc… Plagerism is a criminal act and admitting it at a later date does not resolve the issue that obama stole anothers published words. obama is a criminal in nature. Rezko is a problem that is not going away because things go much deeper than investigated. Research it yourself. Specifically: obama took money from rezko and rezko associates; then purchased a rezko property for a huge discount. returned the money directly from rezko only? what about the rest?

Posted by: dee deedee again | February 18, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

We have an election year that is starting to resemble 2000 in several disturbing ways. We have a candidate who is appealing to the masses erroneously using the term “electable”. Electable and Likeable are not the same thing. I may enjoy talking to my family doctor more than the chief of surgery at our city hospital. However, were I to have a life threatening condition requiring surgery, I would definitely want the chief of surgery handling my case.
We have a candidate who recycles his speeches, or, more frequently, recycles the speeches of others.
We have a candidate who changes his position depending on his popularity rating.
Perhaps most concerning, we have a candidate who not only lacks experience but has the fatal flaw of not being able to think on his feet. All anyone who doubts this has to do is watch Senator Obama speak with a script. Then, watch him speak in a debate.
In 2000, George W. Bush “won” the election in a finish that showed more corruption than elections in countries run under a dictatorship. At the helm, GW managed to anger leaders in volatile countries, most notably the middle east. There was a sense in the international community that GW wanted America to go to war. Then September 11th, 2001 happened. Foreign relation critics around the globe stated it was only a matter of time.
I remember driving to Ground Zero after being put on ‘stand-down’ at our trauma center. There were no concrete suspects in the hours after the attacks, only multiple leads. In every place we stopped in at while heading to NYC, we asked Americans who they felt was responsible. The media kept playing the story of a suitcase being found at the airport (Boston, I believe). Remember this? The suitcase had the following items: a copy of the Koran, a manual on how to fly, and a few other religious artifacts. Can anyone say “planted evidence”?
We met many Americans with family members in the military. We learned in the hours after the attack, the American military was already heading to Afghanistan. Why was this the case when during these early moments there was no concrete evidence that Afghanistan was involved.
Fast forward to today:
1) Afghanistan is now regarded as the most unstable and dangerous region in the world. Due to the focus on Iraq, there are now more terrorist cells in Afghanistan than pre-9-11.
2) Pakistan recently assassinated Benazir Bhutto. Pakistan has weapons of mass destruction. Pakistan is in chaos.
3) North Korea has weapons of mass destruction with an unpredictable leader at the helm.
4) America’s relationship with China – the largest military in the world – is in peril. Further, from an economics perspective alone, this strained relationship is going to need some serious mending.
5) The American economy is in ruins.
The list goes on.
The concept of “ready on day 1″ is more than a slogan – it is a necessity.
Senator Obama has traveled far less to other regions in the world compared to Senator Clinton. In fact, this lack of worldly travel is but another similarity between GW and BO. It goes without saying that Senator Clinton is far better connected globally. These connections will, with skillful negotiations, become fruitful alliances. In turn, these alliances will assist with:
1) The American Economy
2) Improving the Environment
3) Stabilizing unstable regions.
Senator Obama could say that he has experience in foreign relations. However, given that he all but ignored this portfolio when in the Senate, the only thing he has demonstrated in this regard is utter ineptitude.
Senator Obama could say that he will surround himself with experienced politicians to help with transitioning issues during his first term in office. However, this would completely contradict his promise of a “new kind of government”.
Senator Clinton has the global connections to stand behind her promise to bring ‘troops home safely’. She has the plan, the blue print, to revive the ailing economy. She has the critical skill of being able to speak without a script and to think on her feet. Remember this?: GW contined to read to preschool children for 15 minutes after being told that a plane had crashed into the World Trade Center.
America cannot afford another GW – a BO. Americans deserve far better than a government that stinks!

Posted by: DrCarolyn | February 18, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

I really find this “news” article not news worthy. Politicians, speech writer, and campaign managers use and repeat each others words all the time. This is a non-issue and it’s petty…

Posted by: Brain | February 18, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

The deceiver the false Profet, youre mask has fallen, the king is with no clothe. He will catch a cold.

Posted by: Latasha | February 18, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

Obama tried to tell us he was original, new and fresh. New ideas, a new way to run Washington.
Turns out he’s full of old stale ideas that he copied.
The hard core Obamaites won’t admit that their guy is not who he said he was, but the leaners finally know who the Obama really is, a Pretender.
Turn out the lights, Obamas party is over.

Posted by: Johnny at Work | February 18, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

So the Emperor Has No Clothes. We could have told you that a long time ago.

Posted by: Brian York | February 18, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

Sharing is a virtue.
But, copying from others on a test or taking credit for others work during a job interview for the Presidency……. well safe to say most people recognize that as wrong.
Turn out the lights, the party’s over for Obama.

Posted by: Johnny at Work | February 18, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

American deserve better not a President who is great in Plagiarism and zero in experience.
What a shame!!!

Posted by: John | February 18, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

I think it’s funny how all of the cult members are now saying we should be talking policy. What a difference a day makes!

Posted by: Jeff | February 18, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

Please every other minute we hear “change” from Hill. She stole that line from Obama and many other lines as well. I guess it’s OK, for her, but no him. Again, her double standard stinks. By the way, we all remember that great line from JFK, “ask not what your country can do for you”.….. JFK stole that line from a school slogan he noticed while visiting. Go figure.
Just goes to show how desperate she really is. Come on Wisconsin; let’s show her and her negative campaign the door.

Posted by: judesuper | February 18, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

Instead of saying:
“[Duval Patrick] has occasionally used lines of mine. I have occasionally used some words of his … I’m sure I should have [given credit to Patrick].”
He should have said:
“I was raised to believe it is a mark of character to admit one’s mistakes. And I admit not giving credit to Patrick was a mistake. The question is: When will Hillary Clinton admit her Iraq War vote was a mistake?”

Posted by: Callimaco | February 18, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

Obama shrinks under any criticism at all; he’s a like a prissy child who doesn’t know how to react. Hillary Clinton mentioned the fact that he never takes responsibility too; it is so true. This man creeps me out. There is a huge difference from Hillary saying “Yes we will” in response to his “yes we can” and him taking an entire speech. His whole candidacy operates on talk because he has no substance, but now we find out that his speeches aren’t even his own. What else does he had left? Nothing.
I’m sure that Obama was so confident in the fact that the media questions him on nothing…he was confident they wouldn’t call him out on this. I’m glad they did. This is going to be like a pick mark in the iceberg which forms the crack.
Now that Obama is coming into the states that aren’t heavily black (so he can’t get those free votes based on his race, he HAS to turn to issues. When he does, he reads from a card and stumbles and pauses. He’s in unfamiliar territory. He makes up his platform as he goes and needs cards to recite it back. Barak Hussein Obama disgusts me.

Posted by: jasoninpa | February 18, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

Please, this is news? This is among important issues facing Americans like the Iraq war, the economy, education, and health care? Would anybody give Martin Luther King or Abraham Lincoln less credit if their words or ideas had come from someone else? Martin Luther King’s thoughts and ideas were heavily influenced by Mohandas Gandhi and Henry David Thoreau, and on occasion, he borrowed their words and ideas to inspire his audience into action. Even Dr. Kings famous, “I Have a Dream” speech bears heavy resemblance to a speech given years earlier by Reverend Archibald Carey, Sr., a personal friend of King’s. Does any of this sound familiar? Clearly, this use and re-use of words has had a terrible impact on our society.
Hillary Clinton is trying to draw attention away from the fact, “in the Senate, she has largely spent her time raising funds for herself and other Democrats (in hopes of attracting the votes of super delegates) and promoting her best-selling memoir Living History. In part because of a lack of attention and also because of the Democrats’ minority status during much of her Senate tenure, she has passed very, very little of note.” Even as First Lady, Hillary’s sole important legislative involvement came during the first two years of Bill Clinton’s presidency when she made an ill-conceived attempt at health care reform, which s sometimes credited with costing her party control of the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years. Even afterwards, “between ‘95 –‘97, she was largely absent from the White House, traveling the world, promoting her best-selling book and helping to raise funds. She never attended strategy meetings and her only intervention in the singular legislative achievements of Bill’s administration — welfare reform and the balanced budget deal — was privately to urge a veto of the former and to oppose the latter because it provided for a cut in the capital gains tax.”
Hillary Clinton possess no valid experience, has accomplished no major tasks, passed no important legislature at all. And this is the solutions business?
This is not a college paper—this is life and here words are to be used for a purpose. Barack Obama has made his purpose clear. The Clinton campaign proposes an empty storefront for the American people.

Posted by: Mannewell Darby | February 18, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

I would rather be 100 years in Iraq the 4 years with Obama the deciever.

Posted by: David | February 18, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

Not only will Obama not become President, but his value on the speech circuit just went waaaayy down.

Posted by: Johnny at Work | February 18, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

Simon Carter, you are watching a great artist at work with speeches not the real truth. Obama may talk a good talk but he can’t do the walk, which means what he say is really only used for what he says, it’s a speech to make you feel good about yourself and that’s it!!!!! There is no real detailed programs that should be brought out in the open, We the people stand for asking these questions from our politicians, how are you gonna help me in detail and how are you gonna pay for these programs in detail, Obama can’t personally answer these question, because he doesn’t really know the programs, somebody else wrote them and he’s just trying to repeat what he’s told to do, to make it sound good.

Posted by: rksage | February 18, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

Do you all realize Bill and Hillary lost the election for Gore? Of course because of his shenanigans, but moreover because they deal HRC struck w/ him, he directed his energy to HRC instead of Gore. She actually went to Gore fundraisers and raised money for herself. Read it in Vanity Fair. I feel deeply that it’s the Clinton’s fault we had 8 years of Bush. You cannot possibly give them anything else, they owe us a lot. And on top of that Hillary owes us our sons and daughters and billions of dollars back for her vote on the war. These are unforgiveble acts. She should not have been close to being announted, she should be stoned out of the room.

Posted by: Who Really Lost in 2000 | February 18, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

It wasn’t a catch phrase idiots! It was an entire speech!

Posted by: CmonPeople | February 18, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

How politically typical,
The Clinton Presidential Machine is running out of steam and places to pick it up so they start foraging through old Obama speeches in hopes that Americans will be distracted from the real issue. We are tired of the same old Washington DC. Thanks for the Bush/Clinton years, but we are moving on!!!

Posted by: Jon | February 18, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

Read Lincoln’s speeches with his use of biblical phrases. The declaration of independence borrowed in part from previous writings. The Clintons are incredibly desparate and increasingly repugnant and I voted for Bill twice. The man squandered his presidency. Hillary is running on non-existant experience. I recall the election of 1960 and how inspiring JFK could be. And Roosevelt. And Lincoln. And Reagan. Words do matter. They inspire. They motivate. They bring people together for a common cause. Lets move on.

Posted by: mark | February 18, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

“Democrats fighting each other. A GOP’s dream. And we didn’t have to spend a dime. Thank you God! :)
Posted by: Brian Yok | Feb 18, 2008 2:02:41 PM”
Couldn’t have said it better meself

Posted by: plainsmm | February 18, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

This is laughable. The Clintons are behaving as if a Presidential campaign is a College course where someone cannot use another person’s words without giving credit. The last time i checked, when i was in college, i didn’t have Speech writers writing my speeches or paper. If Speech writers are allowed, then the rules must be different. This is seriously a distraction. When did we become Republicans with thsi dirty, gutter politics? I was leaning towards Clinton for this Tuesday, but now, i’m not so sure anymore. If she is down in the polls to Mccain, is this what we will see? This is just a turn-off. I might just stay home tomorrow because i cannot see my self voting for Obama either.

Posted by: Kevin | February 18, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

“Cmonpeople”: it was not an entire speech, where are you seeing that???

Posted by: Sean | February 18, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

Criminal offenses are not “minor” or “petty” issues.

Posted by: Jeff | February 18, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

The problem with the Illinois Senators use of someone else’s speech is that he actually creates a scenario in which he is able to work the “speech” in. For example; In order to say words matter, he had to make a false claim about Hillary to make it work. He led the audience to believe that Hillary said “words don’t matter” she did not say that. He sets things up to use “words” he has stolen/borrowed. He is doing the same thing to make himself seem victimized. The Ill. Senator said that he is a Hope Monger. No one has said that about him, but then he gets to go on this rampage about how people are trying to squash enthusiasm and hope. He was a teacher. He like most teachers knows how to work a young audience. The difference is we teachers use it to benefit the students; the Illinois Senator is using it to benefit himself and that is the disgraceful part to me. When you have a philosophy you are deeply inspired by, words come easy. I don’t need someone else’s words to express how I feel, I do use credited quotes that better illustrate my feelings. He used someone else’s words to explain a concoction of his, not a philosophy

Posted by: irma | February 18, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

Oh my this is terrible timing, isn’t it? And everyone floundering trying to make this reasonable and hurl crud at Clinton — stop being so petty. Leveraging large portions of a speech WORD FOR WORD is much different than drawing a contrast between two candidates by slightly altering the slogan, e.g. the difference betwee “Yes, we can” and “Yes, we will” is a play on words designed to draw a contrast between words of promise, and words of action. And it is effective, and clever. Also, McCain also said “I’m fired up and ready to go” recently so I guess we better through him into the school yard politics.
I love the fact that even our “having a complete love affair with Obama” news coverage in Seattle covered this story and openly critiqued Obama for leveraging his speech. It is about time we saw some balance in the scrutiny!

Posted by: S | February 18, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

Obama the Plagiarist. He has taken part of HRC plan to, is there a word for that ,Maybe thief?

Posted by: Charles | February 18, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

BUSTED!!

Posted by: ryan | February 18, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

Obama is flat out full of it. I will not vote him because he is too liberal and has absolutely no track record of Success. If he should win the party’s nomination, it will be the first time I voted Republican for President in 20 years. I am a moderate, I think both parties are full of it, but Obama is the biggest bullshit artist of them all. He couldn’t hold a candle to Dr Martin Luther King!

Posted by: Clinton 08 | February 18, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

Trying to align oneself with past President’s is one thing, plagerism is another. Oprahma’s ‘holier-than-thou’ attitude makes me want to hurl. I wouldn’t vote for this guy if were the only candidate running or if he was green with purple polka-dots. His feeble attempt to downplay this latest screw up by saying “he should have given more credit” is laughable and illustrative of his ‘spin doctor’s’ hard at work. There was no ‘writer’s strike’ in his campaign; Oprahma is given much too much credit for the flowery rhetoric that some believe will magically translate into a viable Presidency. Um, that would be a no go.

Posted by: therockofages | February 18, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

If Hillary releases her tax returns I bet Obama will start copying Bill’s speeches. Yes he can!

Posted by: jim | February 18, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

You, Obama supporters have got to realize these comments ARE NOT SLANDER AND THEY ARE NOT NEGATIVE, these are the questions you people should have been asking all along before you picked Obama as your candidiate, All of the rest of us who didn’t vote for Obama already knew the answers why didn’t you ask them yourself. Please ask your politican before you vote and WISCONSIN if you are reading these emails, please ask before you vote for somebody who just talk about a speech and doesn’t have the answers.

Posted by: rksage | February 18, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Usually when we believe things about people we only see the things that prove us right. If you are a HIllary supporter keep looking to ABC news to prove you right.
Come on folks you owe it to yourselves to dig deeper then this when making an “informed” decision.

Posted by: Fired up Ready to Go | February 18, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Mark: Where are you going to move to we only have three candidates and soon it will be down to two then one. If you don’t like what you see don’t vote. Its very simplified. One vote will not make a difference in the count.I am voting for Hillary. Obama only wants to be president to make history. That’s what it is all about. He is not JFK, RFK or MLK but he sure would like to be.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | February 18, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Obama supporters have a habit of saying All American are behind Obama , So I checked Yeap I am a American, and I am not backing Obama,I will vote for McCain before I vote for Obama, and have been voting for years, never miss one,it is my duty to vote,

Posted by: oncemorenomore | February 18, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

“S”:
1) It wasn’t a “large portion” of the speech.
2) Obama and Patrick have the same speech writers
3) Patrick already came out and said it was no problem and that the two share ideas
Get a grip, Hillary supporters and Obama-haters. If this is the best thing you’ve got, he’s got this election in the bag

Posted by: Sean | February 18, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Well, well, well. I’ve been saying Obama is a political Cyrano for some time. Now it’s on video!

Posted by: Cyrano | February 18, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

who really lost 2000, you are getting your info from vanity fair? Enough said.

Posted by: bigdog | February 18, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Oprah better hope Obama wins. Becouse if he does’t. He will make a T.V. show Titled “OBAMA” opposite of Oprah and still her audience, like he stills HRC’s plan.

Posted by: Latasha | February 18, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Voting is one of the things us poor uneducated single women can do, it is like a night out on the town, free,

Posted by: oncemorenomore | February 18, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

Obama did not just ‘borrow’ ideas from Deval Patrick, he used his words ver batim. It’s actually a little sad. The gloss has really gone off him. He sounds to me now like a puppet…his originality was one of the biggest things he had going for him. I guess that’s not the case anymore!!

Posted by: Louise | February 18, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

Day-Owl: Hillary won Nevada even with the big endorsement from the union. Hillary was right and the Hispanics stuck it to Obama. Good news. So did California and New Mexico. I believe she will win in those three big states plus maybe Hawaii. But Wisconsin could go Obama’s way because of all the college’s there and those student’s don’t know the time of day. Obama could tell them the sky is pink and they would believe him. That’s how dumb they are today.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | February 18, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Tomorrow I will vote for Hillary Clinton.
I teach my kids not to plagiarise, use original idea, but Obama is a shame.
I don’t want my kids to follow him and just turn into great in Plagiarism.
We Americans are inventor, look for new idea, we are not cheaters.

Posted by: Mark Cooke | February 18, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Hey Larry sorry to hear you are a republican, but that’s really okay. Hillary wouldn’t mind you crossing the fence to help her out and you are right Obama is a liberal which ever way the wind blows he will follow

Posted by: rksage | February 18, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Obama could be a Clone of Deval Patrick.We never know what science is up to.

Posted by: Latasha | February 18, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Obama is holding a rally in Youngstown Ohio. I wonder who’s speech he is giving.

Posted by: jim | February 18, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

To the guy with the GOP DREAMS. The Democrats are debating about the most suitable candidate to win against the Republicans. Don’t get excited, it’s just boot camp, coming after your guys will be the real battle. As for who lost 2000? The same system that lost it in 2004. A deliberate action of the Right Wing to control forms of media in order to manipulate the massive audience. As it turns out they also had their own media watch dogs, which the liberals didn’t have. Luckily we now have truth,knowledge and spreading the word on our side.

Posted by: irma | February 18, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

For those who are now having buyers remorse for voting for this fraud, I can’t help but say “Told Ya”.
I’d much rather have an old man as president than an experienced slick talking con man.
Hoefully he will be exposed in Ohio before March 4th.

Posted by: Sam in Ohio | February 18, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

What a pathetic tactic by Clinton’s. First they make allegations on Obama for copying the words and then when Obama responds to her, its all Obama’s fault. He is the one who is childish. Clintons supporter please do some research and find out who start the fire first. Blame Clintons camp not Obama. She is being doing these things from start. Before any primary or caucus she will pick up the small mistakes from Obama and try to do the damage. She says words dont count then why are you fighting about who’s words? She came with that Obama’s weakest point is that he is not organized. He was very truthful in answering that. She made a point out of it. Now she says those red states and caucases dont count at all. Then why is she happy about winning New Mexico and Nevada. See Nevada people what she thinks about you. You guys dont count at all.
Overall she is the most polarizing figure and everyone can see it.
For all her small childish allegations there is only one answer
SO WHAT?????????

Posted by: samyr | February 18, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

Proof that neither democrat is fit to be President

Posted by: Bill A | February 18, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

Any idea how Karl Rove or other Republican strategists may play the controversy against Barack Obama

Posted by: Angel | February 18, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

samyr, your comment. I wish to comment on. I don’t care who outed who, as I have stated before Obama should have been investigated by the PEOPLE and the news media WAYYYYYYYYYYY before this came out. Finally the true details of this candidate Obama are starting to surface and maybe if you send an email to CNN< FOX< MSNBC and ask them to investigate Obama you will get accurate answers, instead of a speech ,regaurdless who wrote it and who said it first

Posted by: rksage | February 18, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

30 seconds, suggested by the person he was riffing, from of a 45 min speech is hardly plagiarism or anything else. Poor Hillary – can’t win on the issues now has to try to bring everyone down into the mud with her. What a loser.

Posted by: Vik N | February 18, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

RKSAGE–What answers does Hillary possess? By all accounts their policies are nearly the same except for fractional differences in healthcare. Obama’s economic policies even have the upper hand as far as most experts are concerned. But these are surely plans to deviate from once legislation is bounced of lawyers, Cabinet members, sub-committees, committees and eventually both houses of Congress.
So where are the solutions? In short, what has Hillary accomplished besides renaming post offices and a court house, passing a resolution honoring Alexander Hamilton and another celebrating the win of a Syracuse University lacrosse team, and finally founding a national park in Puerto Rico. Are these the solutions you seek? You need to do your own research and discover that Hillary Clinton is, all hat and no cattle-trading–anymore

Posted by: Mannewell Darby | February 18, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

Only Hillary supporters are see this issue as ‘significant’. We Obama supporters see this as a case of Obama and Patrick having the same campaign manager.
I’m worried about the swing voters in Wisconsin who might feel like it wouldn’t hurt to give Hillary a ‘boost’ in what they think will be a kick of the can down the road to Texas and Ohio.
If that’s the case, I would really urge tthem to not base their vote on doubt and fear but on all the criteria of both candidates. For example if you’re now looking at Barack as somehow less resilient or less golden, please stop and think about whether you’re really prepared to have the mudslinging, Iraq war voting, NAFTA supporting Hillary become the nominee when polls ALREADY show she can’t win against McCain.
Big picture people – why vote for somebody who we already KNOW can’t win?

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 18, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

We should have a parlamentary system and let the smart people decide who is Prime Minister. Instead of all this inspiaring crap.

Posted by: David | February 18, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

Larry, thats’ alright I still respect you any how, but if change your mind Hillary will still accept your vote. you have great day dude.

Posted by: rksage | February 18, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

Freethinker, Obama’s whole campaign revolves around his speeches. His speeches do not provide any specifics, only rhetoric. If he told the audience before he spoke that he was going to borrow lines, I don’t think people would listen. They can just look up that speech or watch that speech. It is a big deal because this is the very core of his campaign. The question that comes out of this is that perhaps he is not much different than anyone else?

Posted by: Jim | February 18, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

Maybe we should get Oprah involved in this one. Didn’t she “tell off” that one guy for lying about his book?

Posted by: jim | February 18, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

“I wish I had a brain” eerily Obama looks like a scarecrow

Posted by: plainsmm | February 18, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

Will the REAL Obama please step forward!

Posted by: jeff | February 18, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

I really don’t understand the logic of backing somebody who can’t win – is it greed (because of the promise of entitlements) or stupidity?

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 18, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

I wonder if he is going to continue to use the same speech in his rallies. The cult members don’t seem to care.

Posted by: jim | February 18, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

This is the dumbest controversy I have ever read.

Posted by: John | February 18, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

You know, it’s hard to not have things revolve around speeches during a campaign where candidates make speeches and give interviews.
Details are readily available in multiple places regarding Obama’s ideas.
Then again, since you didn’t give me credit for my name, why would you bother to look up Obama’s ideas.

Posted by: Jim | February 18, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

Some facts -
Obama uncle in Kenya, Muslim opposition leader Raila Odinga.
Odinga gang is busy in ethnic cleansing in Kenya.
Here Obama is busy in copying speeches and increasing decibels and fools are following as pied piper.
When he will lose election he will calim its all race. And another loser Teddy will come and endrose him.
He is a loser.
Media should investigate him.

Posted by: Gary Folsom | February 18, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

Man, I think it was a big mistake of Barack to ‘admit’ he should have given credit to Patrick. I’m shocked he would do that.
I also think it was a mistake to leave Wisconsin and go to Ohio to campaign.
What’s going on with them? If Hillary not only wins Wisconsin but Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania they way she’s claimed, this also brings Michigan and Florida back into play and she may actually win the nomination. She’ll never win the general election, but she’ll win the nomination.
Of course we’ll all blame the Clintons so I guess that’ll be the silver lining – to be able to watch Hillary slink back to the Senate as the Democratic screw-up . . .
Anybody but Hillary – Obama or McCain 08

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 18, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

We will not do ethnic cleansing .I promise Obama told me .Only Mexicans for not voteing for him, unless they give us Texas.

Posted by: Ogar | February 18, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

There certainly are a lot of Clinton sock puppets here. With oddly good (quick) timing when a story to their advantage comes out.
Don’t suppose anyone else has noticed that?
Wonder if they’re really Clinton Democrats, or actually Republicans, looking out for their long-preferred opponent?
The Rovian tone sure does make me wonder.
Hm.

Posted by: suburban guy | February 18, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

Mannewell, sorry to hear you are voting for OBama, but I will tell you this, Hillary economic plan was out there way before Obama and her plan is much better than Obama. I tell you what I sent this email into the news media why don’t all of you do the same. Obama who is he really?
What are his programs?
How does he plan to pay for them and finally ask them at CNN to ask the followoing question from BOTH candidates about foreign trade and the foreign policy we have now. How do you plan to bring jobs back to the US and how are you going to make foreign trade more efficient for the american people,nobody has really touched this issue. Send this email in and we will see which candidate answer this at the debate this thursday on CNN.

Posted by: rksage | February 18, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

You lost me HILL-lairy, she will not only divide the country and she has already divided democrats with her polarizing assertions and negativity. If she gets the nomination, would I vote for her, hell NO. I WOULD RATHER VOET for McCain. The point is Democrats are trapped in Republican trick…that is nominating a high polarizing and hated nominee in the face of Republican, so that every Republicans would rise up.

Posted by: John Elias | February 18, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

Obama has lower the standard on who our next President should be…NOW PLAGIARISM IS GOOD..Obama is an empty suit. WHAT CHANGE? WHEN YOU CAN’T EVEN COME UP WITH YOUR OWN RETHORIC.

Posted by: Antonn | February 18, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

BO shows is a very good actor. It’s not easy to deliver other people’s lines convincingly.

Posted by: esvida | February 18, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

The country has always been divided and it always will. Remember the Civil war. Was HRC responsible? Nothing will ever unite this country , those are facts . But we are doing O.K.

Posted by: David | February 18, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

this is disappointing to the whole obama campaign. plagiarizing is stealing someone’s words and work without giving them credit……but his comment that clinton stole his ‘yes we can’, ‘fired up and ready to go’ sounds petty and pretty much an admission to his guilt of plagiarism.

Posted by: wes | February 18, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

Brain I bet your parents are really proud of you, If Obama brings out this kind of disrespect from our own, think of what it will do around the world, so far he has said he is not interested in poor uneducated women, old people, and mexicans, cause they don’t understand the issues, so now he is a mind reader to,

Posted by: oncemorenomore | February 18, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Hillary Clinton has less actual experience than Obama. She has been involved in 100 times more scandals. Her husband disgraced the American Presidency. She is playing the American people like a fiddle and they are falling for it. It’s a sad commentary on this country. If you do any research on the issues at all you will find that when it comes to “substance” they are equal. And by the way, didn’t Hillary recently say to Obama, “Where’s the beef?”. Did she attribute that to Walter Mondale? And he got it from Wendy’s. Please people, don’t be so stupid!

Posted by: Mike | February 18, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Don’t anyone ever again quote a few short inspiring sentences spoken by great heroes. That’s just disgusting, and evil. And Aaron Copeland was guilty of plagerism in his “Lincoln Portrait,’ too.

Posted by: CelticOdyssey | February 18, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Obama has lower the standard on who our next President should be…NOW PLAGIARISM IS GOOD..Obama is an empty suit. WHAT CHANGE? WHEN YOU CAN’T EVEN COME UP WITH YOUR OWN RHETORIC.

Posted by: Antonn | February 18, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

The difference between JFK and Obama. Is that JFK usually started with “In the great words of ___________.” Then he proceeded using someone else’s words to help make his point. Usually the point being made was one based on philosophy. The point the Ill. Senator is trying to make is based on a concocted situation where he gets to play the role of victim. Not inspiring…..

Posted by: irma | February 18, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

OPRAH has not luck endorsing anybody.
A few months ago OPRAH confronted James Frey author of the “A Million Little Pieces” who made up some of the stories as his owns.
OPRAH reaction: “I feel duped. But more importantly, I feel that you betrayed millions of readers,”

Posted by: Angel | February 18, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

What he supposedly “plagarised” was a rebute the accusations the Clinton’s saying that rhetoric was not important. Duval knew how to counter that and obviously Obama took the same approach. The Clinton’s are such hypocrites…if words don’t matter why are you leveling these ridiculous charges against Obama? Same politicians coming up with the same old attacks. Pathetic.

Posted by: John | February 18, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

Hey, Brian, someday you will be old as well. You can’t avoid getting old, but you can avoid being ignorant and racist. Wasn’t it Obama who said that he would give drivers licenses to illegal Mexican aliens in a cheap trick to get the Latino vote in California ? I think so.

Posted by: KC in MO | February 18, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

Typical Clintonites to play dirty politics and make something out of nothing. Obama and Patrick are friends, they have the same philosophies, they use each other’s slogans. To suggest that Obama makes a habit of plagiarizing all his works is misleading and typical of Hilary Clinton politics. I guess she took a page out of Republican’s swift boat tactics to distract from the real issue. Typical.

Posted by: JT | February 18, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

and the rest is history: irma has it exactly right. obama is NOT inspiring.

Posted by: dee deedee again | February 18, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

Stealing speaches? Really? Wow. This is the same old politics republicans have used on Bill. Now Hillary and Bill are using these dirty tactics on Obama. Shameful.

Posted by: Aaron | February 18, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

It’s amazing what a African American Man has to do, that is clearly the best candidate, for a Presidential Nominee.. No doubt if Barack was a European American, he would be a shoe in… This is a sad state of our country and I suggest we get right quick.

Posted by: Lawrence | February 18, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

Obama states that words do count he used I have a dream,we have nothing to fear but fear itself.They are fine words but they didn’t repeat them over and over and over. can anyone imagine if King used those words in every speech what little impact they’d of had.

Posted by: roncraw | February 18, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

That’s all you have Hillary? Just go away, no one wants to hear your depressing vile.

Posted by: FGB | February 18, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

Obama states that words do count he used I have a dream,we have nothing to fear but fear itself.They are fine words but they didn’t repeat them over and over and over. can anyone imagine if King used those words in every speech what little impact they’d of had.

Posted by: roncraw | February 18, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

I love the Oprah quote. I’m going to use it as my own. I feel duped but more importantly I feel Obama betrayed millions of listeners.

Posted by: jeff | February 18, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

WELL WHAT DOES IT TAKE OBAMAMANIACS TO SEE THAT THIS GUY IS A SALESMAN RUNNING ON EMPTY FAITH AND PROMISES. HE IS PREACHING AND GIVING NO SPECIFICS. SO I ASK YOU ONE QUESTION WOULD YOU HAVE OBAMA WORK ON YOUR DAUGHTERS HEART OR HILLARY. A SPEECH OF FANCY WORDS WRITTEN BY SOMEONE ELSE OR, A PERSON WITH A SPECIFIC PLAN? QUESTION JUST ASK THE QUESTION!

Posted by: christy | February 18, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

AMERICA WE NEED TO BE REALISTIC WE CANNOT LIVE ON SPEECHES ALONE PLUS ITS COPIED!!
SENATOR HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON OFFERS SOLUTION!!
VERSUS
SENATOR BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA GIVES SPEECHES WITHOUT SUBSTANCE!
AND AFRAID TO HAVE A DEBATE WITH SENATOR CLINTON IN WISCONSIN.WHAT ARE
YOU AFRAID FOR?
DEBATE IS ONEWAY OF GAUGING OR FINDING OUT WHAT KIND OF CANDIDATE YOU ARE ELECTING FOR PRESIDENT? UNLESS YOU ARE AFRAID THAT VOTERS WILL FIND OUT YOUR WEAK POINT.
AS OF NOW AMERICA IS LOOKING FOR A STRONG LEADER AND EXPERIENCE WHO CAN DELIVER NOT JUST PROMISES! WE CANNOT HAVE ANOTHER GEORGE W. BUSH PART 2. WE CANNOT AFFORD ANOTHER MISTAKE IN ELECTING A WRONG PRESIDENT AGAIN!
VOTERS ITS ALL IN YOUR HAND – DON’T BELIEVE IN ALL YOU READ AND HEAR, DON’T BELIEVE ON MEDIA MANIPULATION, SPIN DOCTORS, PUNDITS, POLLSTERS, UNION ENDORSERS, CELEBRITY ENDORSERS, POLITICIAN ENDORSERS.
VOTERS YOU DECIDE – DON’T ANYBODY DECIDE FOR YOU.
YOU ARE THE DECIDING FACTOR AND YOU KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR COUNTRY.
THERE’S A LOT AT STAKES HERE.
AMERICA CANNOT AFFORD ANOTHER BLOW!
DON’T BELIEVE EVERYTHING WHAT THE MEDIA IS FEEDING YOU – THEY ARE VERY BIAS AND MANIPULATORS.
VOTERS MAKE A CONSCIOUS DECISION WHO YOU WANT TO VOTE THAT WILL BEST SERVE OUR COUNTRY FIRST AND FOREMOST.
VOTE WISELY AND PRUDENTLY.
God Bless America!!!!

Posted by: Sam Lim | February 18, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

Plagiarist Senator Barack Hussein Obama.
Great!!! Now American deserve this crap.

Posted by: Rosy James | February 18, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

Clinton stole “fired up and ready to go” and “yes we can”? Are you kidding me? She used these Obama’s slogans intentionally, as a sarcasm. McCain recently said “I am fired up and ready to go” as a joke.
What Obama did is totally different – he presented a big piece of somebody else’s speach as his own. If it was an essay, he would get an F.

Posted by: Bob | February 18, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

Hillary supporters are over-confident smack talkers who think they’ve got Obama voters in the bag because of Iraq.
Unfortuately for them, they’re not as smart as they think they are – a good portion of Obama’s base are the right-leaning Demcrats and Independent swing voters who are looking at Hillary’s base and saying heck no I’m not paying for all the entitlements she’s promised this pack of jerks.
A vote for Hillary in the primaries is a vote for McCain . . . what do I care if the entitlements go to Iraq rather than the creeps who have been calling me and other Obama supporters stupid and naive . . .

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 18, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

I would worry more about Obama representing himself as African American. Research seems to indicate that he is descended from an Arab slave trader and is only 6.25% black. This is not enough to qualify him as African American and he would actually be Arab American. His father was designated in Kenya as Arab African. If true he may have been using a false premise for years to gain unfair advantages. Regardless of how he views himself, genetics don’t seem to support him.

Posted by: tom in MA | February 18, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

Latinos/Hispanics will never vote for Obama. O WHO? Just wait he will be trashed in TEXAS. NO EXPERIENCE MEANS HE HAS TO PLAGIARIZED WITH OWN RHETORIC

Posted by: Antonn | February 18, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

“Good morning Joe” always talks so good about Obama. And Hardball says he’s so great.MSNBC has been selling us short. I’m turning the channel off, no more MSNBC for me.

Posted by: David | February 18, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

It seems to me that Jake wrote the article about borrowed words and speeches and the Clintons had nothing to do with it. But let’s look at the facts. What did Mr. Obama do for the citizens of Illinois during his 8 years as senator? We still don’t have usury laws, Check & Go, Payday Loans and such are still sucking the blood of the poor and unemployed who cannot make ends meet. And what about controlling banks and other outfits in the State of Illinois providing mortgages at 5 1/2% and then raising them to 11% and the banks throwing people out into the street when they could no longer pay? What has he done TO HELP ILLINOIS’ CITIZENS? And what has he done for Illinois since his election to the U.S. Senate? Write books about himself? In 2006 he was appointed Head of the Sub-Committe on Europe (Foreign Relations). What has he done about it? He has not been to Europe to meet heads of state once. And he wants to represent this country? And then we have the statements on the website of the church he (and Oprah)attend: “We are an African people, and remain TRUE to our NATIVE LAND, the mother Continent, the cradle of civilization… We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.” (And he not even black – he is bi-ratial). The Church states on the front page that it is committed to a 10-point Vision. Point 4 of 10: A congregation with a NON-NEGOTIABLE COMMITMENT TO AFRICA. Point 8: Commitment to LIBERATION (from what or whom?). Point 9: Commitment to RESTORATION (of what?). Not a word about AMERICA. As for slavery, it would appear that if the black brethren in Africa would not have rounded up their own brethren and sold them into slavery, there would have been no slavery. So who is more guilty? The seller or the buyer? That, of course, does not excuse the buyer from the way they treated those they bought.

Posted by: Starlight | February 18, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

Methinks Hillary is getting a tad desperate. This is between Patrick and Obama and if Patrick doesn’t care, the lack of a citation in the heat of the moment isn’t going to turn me off. The tempest in a teacup, melodramatic and daily fits of the Clinton camp will though. Enough already. Why doesn’t she just get out there with her message and let the chips fall? I thought Karl Rove worked for the Republicans.

Posted by: Sara B. | February 18, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

if thats all hillary has to offer…we dont need it!!! noone wants to hear her depressing lies and shameful regrets… the government doesnt need any more clintons..were done!!!
..go obama…

Posted by: gidgetyamamoto09 | February 18, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

Loved the comments from Dr. Carolyn and I am right there with you on them all.
Obama is not what we need now. But the media is doing their best to make that man shine, shine, shine, whenever they can. If a journalist plagiarized they would be out on their can.
GO HILLARY -

Posted by: cmb | February 18, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

When has Hillary taken responsibility for the Iraq War vote? The Global Poverty Act 2007 is real. Ethics reform is real. Expanding healthcare in Illinois is real. His legislation on Hurricane Katrina is real. His nuclear proliferation co-sponsorship is real. All of you are being played by the biggest political ploy of the most calculating Democrats to serve in the White House. Hillary has so much experience but was only an elected official for 7 years now. Obama 11. The information age played more of a role in the economy and if you research, you’ll learn that the budget surplus came largely due to reductions from the military and actual tax increases on the middle class. Most of the jobs in the 90′s were spurred on by the IT industry (which I’m a part of) which offered higher paying jobs at the time but understaffed due to demand. Read and investigate the issues and measure up their real legislative experience. Read about what the Global Poverty Act accomplishes. Understand the flexibility allowed in SCHIP allowed for severe regulation at the state level which still left too many kids out. We’re still talking about “I did not have ___ relations with that woman” and “depends on what the definition of is is”. That’s how we ended up with George Bush and that’s how we will end up with Jeb Bush if they return to the White House, IMO. Please don’t fall for this. Everybody, including Hillary has speech writers.” It’s too daunting a task to campaign everyday and night and deliver original campaign speeches. All speeches are shaped and cultivated behind the candidates theme or message. And all speeches are historically based on campaign strategies from as far back as the country’s founding. I can’t believe so many people did not know this. George Bush has a speech writer he just can’t deliver speeches. The “I Have a Dream” speech was not first delivered on the Washington Mall. JFK, RFK, Bill Clinton all had speech writers . Their job was to learn it and deliver it effectively with passion.

Posted by: Will | February 18, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

Sorry Obama, but blatant plagiarism is not “the change” we can believe in.
It appears that you are not original thinker that I once thought you might be. You are just very clever at packaging yourself. Somehow, this seems more creepy than some of the other things I have seen out there on the campaign, because if feels more false than something about policy. It is about your ethical code, and clearly your lack of oversight on the details about your campaign. Bad.

Posted by: swoosie10 | February 18, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

Walter,
Who knwo what Obama will do in white house? He is copying JFK, we all know he was sleeping around.
I know Whoopi will say no to him.
Today he is Plagiarist, tommorow who knows may be in Sunset Blvd.

Posted by: Rockon | February 18, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

First Hillary says WORDS ARE CHEAP.. now emphasis on WORDS.. America see past this negative campaigning and tomorrow and the upcoming elections will prove it.

Posted by: Lawrence | February 18, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

we all use quotes other people use, but we normally always say , as so and so said, we don’t just take their words as our own, that is lieing. and we as every day folks are not running for the office of president or any of office, we wouldn’t allow that from our state leaders ,why would we allow it from our national leader

Posted by: oncemorenomore | February 18, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

I couldn’t read all the comments, way too many. But, a couple of points I want to be sure are made:
1. None of the politicians use their own words all the time, they use speech writers. If Obama writes a lot of his stuff, he’s the exception. But yes, in the interest of fairness, he should have credited the guy whose speech writer he used.
2. Go to his web site. He outlines very clearly many of his policies.
3. I like Hilary, but I prefer Obama (because of his stance on Iraq). I don’t like all the negativism about either of them. We have to stick together if we are going to get rid of the Bushies and their elitist, anti-environmental, warmongering policies. Pick which non Bushie you like best, but let’s quit shooting our friends over the little things.

Posted by: KTR | February 18, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

Clinton rips off Obama’s words…and fails to convince ANYONE she is a change agent. Obama and Patrick are friends, share tips and one or two key phrases.
Which is a problem? Sharing with a friend or stealing from someone who is kicking your ***?
Clinton is pathetic. She should bury her head in shame and crawl back into the hole she and her husband crawled out of.
We want change…change from the politics of slash and burn. Change from the Clintons’ doing and saying anything they think is necessary to grab and hold on to power for themselves.

Posted by: SitorDance | February 18, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

I am shocked, Obama is a fake. He was trying to pull fast one on Americans.
Shame.

Posted by: Dorthy | February 18, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

A vote for Hillary is a vote for McCain . . . banning abortion, banning gay marriage, deporting illegals, lost jobs to China and Mexico, loss of health insurance coverage to all but the high-income earners, and continued wars throughout the middle-east . . .
Hillary supporters care only about themselves – time for me to look out for me . . . none of those plaforms affect me. You say the system can’t be reformed, the I say go big-business. Every person for themselves . . .

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 18, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

Democrats taking the moral high ground. No way! It’s the party of “anything goes” as long as it serves them well.

Posted by: TooFunny | February 18, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

Oh please. Every President since George Washington has borrowed others words. John Kennedy did, Bobby Kennedy did, Ronarld Reagan did. Now the old bag is trying to shame Obama for using someone else’s speech. She is absolutely one pathetic candidate. As well, all of you voting for her are pathetic as well. Pull the plug on the old battleaxe and vote overwhelmingly for Obama. I am.

Posted by: Select Anything | February 18, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

Obama: “…He suggested we use these lines. I thought they were good lines. I’m sure I should have. Didn’t this time.” – “Don’t tell me words don’t matter,” Obama said to Wisconsin Democrats. “‘I have a dream’ — just words. ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal’ — just words. ‘We have nothing to fear but fear itself’ – just words. Just speeches.” – NOT plagiarism.

Posted by: Angie | February 18, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

Clinton stole “fired up” and “ready to go” from him??? HA HA!! Now that’s a good one .. I guess every head football coach in America owes him an apology then too!?!?! That’s some good stuff .. watch him crumble!

Posted by: Bruce | February 18, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

“Obama: …He suggested we use these lines. I thought they were good lines.”
What a joke. If it was an essay, would he also say: may fellow student suggested I use a piece of his essay..?

Posted by: Bob | February 18, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

“Senator Clinton has used mine as well,” Obama said, citing “fired up and ready to go,” as examples.
OH PLEASE, THIS IS THE MOST REVEALING THING THAT OBAMA HAS SAID, AS WELL AS THE MOST RIDICULOUS. KINDERGARTENERS SAY FIRED UP AND READY TO GO!
AND HE WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT. NOT!!!

Posted by: JJ | February 18, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

The difference is that Obama admits he used others words, Mrs. Clinton would try claiming them as hers or else blame a vast rught wing conspiracy. Obama is in the lead and hje is gonna find out just how dirty that can be.. Good Luck!

Posted by: jenny | February 18, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

I see he is just the same old politician as the rest. He is starting to back peddle on campaign financing and now he is trying to spin a speech that was copied. I want someone I can believe in but am afraid he is not what he claims to be. Sad.

Posted by: Jack | February 18, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

I thought the Hillaryland argument was that words doen’t mean anything! Now, they’re complaining about Obama’s words. Oh well, just another Hillaryland flip flop! Hill’s supporters will ignore that like they ignore her disastrous judgement and corruption.

Posted by: kings2beat | February 18, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

The phrase “We have nothing to fear but fear itself” was said by F.D.Roosevelt and if memory serves me, Winston Churchill during WW II.

Posted by: Mine Sweeper | February 18, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

It is Strange to Me How Obama’s Campaign is Blaming Hillary???? He is the one who PLAGIARISED! They won’t admit when they do something WRONG! I wonder if The Larry Sinclair Episode( getting real Big on you tube) will blow up in his Face! Even Andy Petit said the TRUTH will Set You free! Maybe OBama will borrow that line too… You see he is not the Messiah! Just another Politician filled with a BIG Ego….

Posted by: astutevoter | February 18, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

It always make me laugh when someone says go to Obama or Hilliary websites and read what they say,really, well if I was running for president and I wanted people to vote for me what would I put on my web site,things that make me look good, things I know the people want to hear,if you want the truth stay away from their websites, dig deeper,the truth is out there,

Posted by: oncemorenomore | February 18, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

This is a pathetic excuse for a story.
He borrowed words and ideas from and colleague who doesn’t even mind that he did it. People do it all the time. End of story. Big deal. There are people dying in Iraq in a war that Obama thought was a bad idea to begin with.
Please people, be smarter than this. They are going after Obama with whatever they can find and it’s SO insignificant compared to what the Clintons have been guilty of over the years.

Posted by: jsb | February 18, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Forget the spin!!..answer this Hillary Supporters!
Let’s take a closer look at who’s really qualified and or who’s really working for the good of all of us in the Senate. Obama or Clinton.
Records of these two candidates should be scrutinized in order to make an informed decision.
Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term – 6yrs. – and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law – 20 – twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years.
These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress http://www.thomas.loc.gov, but to save you trouble, I’ll post them here for you.
1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O’Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men’s Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men’s Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty. Only five of Clinton’s bills are, more substantive. 16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11 18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.
There you have it, the fact’s straight from the Senate Record.
Now, I would post those of Obama’s, but the list is too substantive, so I’ll mainly categorize.
During the first – 8 – eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced
233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.
His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These inculded **the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 – became law, **The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, – became law, **The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate, **The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, – became law, **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, In committee, and many more.
In all, since entering the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096.
An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no record according to some who would prefer that this comparison not be made public.
He’s not just a talker.
He’s a doer.

Posted by: Mine Sweeper | February 18, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Turn out the lights, Obamas party is over.

Posted by: Johnny at Work | February 18, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

His patronizing is catching up with him. His imitation of MLK, Robert Kennedy, etc… is playing on the real emotions and hopes of those that revere these great leaders. Any candidate that plays the American people should be ashamed of themselves.

Posted by: Zinger | February 18, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Can someone check for the Las Vegas debate in which this Senator said that his “health care plan covers every body” — I was shocked when I heard that, but did not bother about it, because I know that was and is not his ideas.

Posted by: Andy | February 18, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Today Hillary released her “Blueprint for the Economy”. Isn’t it interesting that Obama’s document on the issues is called “Blueprint for Change”. The woman is unethical, dishonest, and vindictive.

Posted by: Mike | February 18, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

Walter: “He borrowed words and ideas from and colleague who doesn’t even mind that he did it. People do it all the time”.
Are you kidding? College students get F’s for this and even get expelled.

Posted by: Bob | February 18, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

only HILLARY fans are taking this seriously. Let it go, y’all. She is creepy and is not a good rep for our party.
Watch your back Obama — The Clintons make people they don’t like, *disappear*
-Texas Democrat

Posted by: Long Tall Texan | February 18, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Send Obama to kindergarten along with his mama Oprah.
He is a thief, steals, liar, cheater.
NO to ZERO OBAMA.

Posted by: jack | February 18, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

Hey unless each candidate is writing their own speaches and I highly doubt that are they both not using someone elses words?

Posted by: jenny | February 18, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

WHO THE HELL CARES!!!!…WHY DONT YOU PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION TO THE REAL ISSUES AND STOP LETTING THE MEDIA FEED YOU IRRELEVANT TOPICS….WOULD YOU REALLY NOT ELECT SOMEONE BECAUSE HE SAID SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS ALREADY SAID…IT ISNT THE CANDIDATES I PONDER ABOUT, IT IS MY FELLOW AMERICANS , I WONDER IF THEY CAN SEE THROUGH THE MEDIA FOG FAR ENOUGH TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS ON THEIR OWN. AND I AM TIRED OF HEARING THAT “WELL HE SAYS THIS AND HE SAYS THAT BUT HE WONT BACK IT UP ONCE HE IS ELECTED” HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW UNTIL HE DOESNT DO IT…LISTEN TO WHAT YOUR CANDIDATE SAYS AND PROMISES AND IF YOU LIKE IT VOTE FOR HIM/HER…ONCE THEY ARE ELECTED HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE…DONT LET THEM NOT DO IT…WRITE YOUR CONGRESSPERSON, SENATOR, WHOEVER…THE PROBLEM IS WE DONT HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE….WE ACT LIKE ONCE THEY ARE IN OFFICE THEY ARE GOLD AND UNTOUCHABLE…THIS IS AMERICA NOT IRAN…DO YOU REALLY WANT A WOMAN IN OFFICE THAT WILL LET HER HUSBAND CHEAT ON HER MULTIPLE TIMES AND STICK WITH HIM…DO YOU PEOPLE REALLY THINK THAT SHE REPRESENTS AN AMERICAN WOMAN IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE…WHEN I THINK AMERICAN WOMAN I THINK OF A STRONG WOMAN THAT DOESNT LET PEOPLE WRONG HER AND THAT CAN STAND ON HER OWN TWO FEET..DO YOU KNOW THE WEAKNESS THAT SHOWS…..I JUST HOPE YOU PEOPLE WAKE UP AND SEE HER FOR WHO SHE REALLY IS…A WOMAN WHO WOULD RATHER BE CHEATED ON THAN GIVE UP THE MONEY AND POWER THAT CAME ALONG WITH BEING WITH HIM…SHE IS WHERE SHE IS TODAY BECAUSE OF HER HUSBAND AND ANY WHO CANT SEE THAT ARE BLIND

Posted by: chris | February 18, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

Hillary Clinton’s campaign is exceedingly desperate. They have no chance of winning enough delegates to take the nomination and now they’re resorting to the nuclear option. The country is not going to vote another Clinton into the White House. We’ve had 4 years of Bush #1, 8 years of Bill Clinton, and now 8 years of Bush #2. If the country elects Hillary Clinton, the Bush & Clinton families will have ruled the nation for 24-28 years. That concept is ridiculous. We are a nation of democracy, not a nation of ruling families!

Posted by: Eric | February 18, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

This really is a bit of a non story. Politicians borrow phrases from all sorts of places. Biblical quotes, the works of great scholars etc.
If this is what the Clinton campaign are pinning there hopes on then they really are a bit desperate!

Posted by: markymark | February 18, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

Good for you Obama supporters. Obama cant write his own speech. How can u expect him to run the white huose. He is not honest.

Posted by: rose | February 18, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

The grand irony is that when Hillary suffers a crushing defeat in a general election against McCain, all her supporters who thought they were going to be living high on the hog at somebody else’s expense are going to have to suffer through 8 more years of Republican rule while we Obama supporters are going to be raking it in $$$.
Guess Hillary supporters aren’t as savvy as they fancy themselves to be . . .

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 18, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

Ok. I’m sorry. I love Obama again. You have me convinced to vote for him again. My bad. Thanks for setting me straight with your riviting comments. I see the light. Obama rocks. We are the champions of change. Change- we can believe in. Woooo Hooo…. go obama in 08. or not

Posted by: dee deedee again | February 18, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

You might as well give it up. The media has made a darling out of Obama and people are mindlessly following it. He will probably get the nomination and then what ? After he does all of the wonderful things that he says he is going to do, maybe he can heal the sick and raise the dead. Could he start with JFK so we could see what a REAL President is ?!!

Posted by: KC in MO | February 18, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

I love these holier-than-thou republican idiots. Does “Larry Craig” and “Mark Foley” tell you anything about the GOP.
Obama 2008!!!

Posted by: pt | February 18, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

4obama, he did not have a vote since he was not Senator then. Also, he voted for funds and then just recently stopped. Just like Hillary. Not much difference.

Posted by: Jim | February 18, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

He didn’t copy the entire speech. Plus, who cares? Many of our great leaders “stole” other peoples words (aka speech writers). Our government is was “stolen” from the greeks and romans…i don’t see anyone of you complaining about that. There’s bigger issues at hand in this election. This isn’t Star Magazine, get over this petty gossip and most importantly get over yourselves.

Posted by: Erin H | February 18, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

If this is all Clinton has to think and talk about, if she happens to win this election, we’re all in trouble. Too bad Obama has to take the time from his campaign to counter such drivel.

Posted by: GC | February 18, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

This is so very silly. The Clintoon campaign is grasping at straws. If I could have a dime for every time I have heard Hillariouly use the words of others I would be a rich man. Nice try…but the good ship Clintoon has hit a berg and is going down.

Posted by: DaveE | February 18, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Rose Didn’t you ever watch West Wing! They have a staff of professional speech writers to write the Presidents speeches. He probably makes some changes but the speeches are written by staff.

Posted by: jenny | February 18, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

If I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a thousand times, HILLARY CLINTON WILL DO AND SAY ANYTHING HOWEVER LUDICRIOUS TO WIN…
She is a walking flesh of shame.

Posted by: Terry | February 18, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

NO, Barry Hussein Obama is NOT writing his own speeches.. That was reported in a local newspaper, here in Chicago (RedEye). There was this huge article about some 26 or 27 year old man writing Barry’s speeches. So, for Pete’s Sake, stop calling Barry “brilliant”, “eloquent”, etc… If he was so brilliant, why can’t he write his own speeches?!!? And what’s with that teleprompter? Finally, I agree that this is hardly top news. ABC, start here? I say “start elsewhere”!

Posted by: DMK | February 18, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

We want LEADER not PLAGIARDER
We deserve better, anyone else “NOT OBAMA”
We want HERO not ZERO
We are proud people, will not elect shameless thief.

Posted by: Rocky | February 18, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

‘yes we can’ so what obama use who’s words…can some please just shut up. and let keep off distractions.

Posted by: Abu | February 18, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

this show hillary has no substance, she has changed her self from the experience candidate to the change candidate what a loser. Now she has nothing better to argue about but words
loser

Posted by: jimmy | February 18, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Oh surprise!
Surprise, my friends.
A day before a vote, Wolfson stirs up a controversy by accusing Obama of “plagarizing” two sentences from on of his strongest supporters. Pathetic. Is this one of the Clintons’ “solutions for American’s problems”?
The Clintons are clearly desperate. Grasping at straws because they know they’re going to get leveled in Wisconsin and Hawaii. So they let the sleaze-master Wolfson out of his cage to fire off some idiotic accusations that have NOTHING to do with the issues.

Posted by: mg | February 18, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

For God’s sake…its a speech not a published work. Go away Hilly.

Posted by: DaveE | February 18, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

“We want LEADER not PLAGIARDER
We deserve better, anyone else “NOT OBAMA”
We want HERO not ZERO
We are proud people, will not elect shameless thief.

Amen

Posted by: Sam | February 18, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

I am so disgusted by the Clinton campaign. Here they are faulting Obama for using a few phrases from an ally in a speech and calling his words into question. What about Hillary, she stole his theme of Change. The Clintons sicken me with their lies and unseemly tactics. The narrow demographic that loves Hillary shouldn’t be surprised that most americans find their tactics disgusting and unethical. If she ends up getting the nomination, I will likely register as a republican and I will greatly enjoy seeing the Clinton’s shady dealings outed in the general campaign and for the public to see what degenerates they really are

Posted by: kinase11 | February 18, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

Great Post Mine Sweeper. Nothing can erase what has been accomplished by the 1st term Senator. For those who said they want solutions, he has obviously provided some with great effort.

Posted by: Will | February 18, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

Obama also has lifted Hillary’s economic plan and called it his own. He has also taken other things from Hillary to fill in his lack of “specifics” on issues. Now I find out that even his “inspiring” speeches, for which he’s well-known, steal sections from other people’s speeches. Wow!
Also, Hillary did not take “Yes We Can” from Obama. The motto dates back to various Latino movements (Spanish translation of “Si se puede”)and the Clintons were using it before him.

Posted by: Landi | February 18, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

Me thinks the media is ignoring the much larger issue involving Obama known as Rezko. Saving that for the general election???

Posted by: Zapper | February 18, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

Some valid advice to Obama….
You screwed up. You used other
people’s phases without giving
them credit. And you were found
out. Now what do you do?
First, you do not point the
finger at someone else and say
they did it too. Terrible tactic.
You says OOPs..sorry I screwed up
apologize to the individual(s)
involved and make same public.
Then go on about your business.
Do it this way and that will
be the end of it. Rationalize it,
say others do it, fudge it and I
gurantee that the issue will
linger on and smell like a dead
fish as time goes on.

Posted by: Beto | February 18, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

In a general election of Clinton versus McCain, who should right-leaning Obama supporters vote for?
The candidate with over 30 years of Congressional experience, or the candidate with 8?
The candidate who claims toughness for surviving 5 years in a POW camp or the candidate who claims toughness because she survived her husband’s infidelity?
The candidate who voted to support the Iraq war or the candidate who voted to support the Iraq war?
The candidate and his supporters who’s never gone negative against Obama supporters or the candidate and her greedy supporters who think we all owe them and who are always calling us stupid and naive?
Hmmm – Obama 08; If not Obama, then McCain . . . anybody but Hillary and her her condescending supporters . . .

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 18, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Let’s think about this deeper, objectively. The lesson to learn here is that, with Obama, you’ll be getting a President who will admit when he makes mistakes. If this same happened to Clinton or Bush, can you imagine them saying they made a mistake?! I doubt Clinton will even own up to stealing Obama’s lines over the past few weeks, which she has done. The point Obama was making about words mattering a great deal (what would we do if we couldn’t speak?) was a great one. Should he have said where he was getting those few specific lines from? Yes. But quoting someone does not in any way make a person un-authentic. Am I less authentic if I cite Shakespeare or Toni Morrison? No–it shows where my vision and authenticity are grounded.

Posted by: Marcus Watson | February 18, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Let’s think about this deeper, objectively. The lesson to learn here is that, with Obama, you’ll be getting a President who will admit when he makes mistakes. If this same happened to Clinton or Bush, can you imagine them saying they made a mistake?! I doubt Clinton will even own up to stealing Obama’s lines over the past few weeks, which she has done. The point Obama was making about words mattering a great deal (what would we do if we couldn’t speak?) was a great one. Should he have said where he was getting those few specific lines from? Yes. But quoting someone does not in any way make a person un-authentic. Am I less authentic if I cite Shakespeare or Toni Morrison? No–it shows where my vision and authenticity are grounded.

Posted by: Marcus Watson | February 18, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

To quote the famous Oprah Winfrey: “I feel insulted but more importantly I feel he betrayed the listeners”. Yes, you said it girl!

Posted by: jim | February 18, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

One last thing… if there is any question about ABC’s Clinton bias take a look at the “On the Radar” sidebar to the top left of this page… at 4:02 p.m. ET the count was Clintons – 9 stories, Obama – 2 (note that 3 of those headlines include both Clintons’ and Obama’s names.)
My case is rested.

Posted by: Jade7243 | February 18, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Hillary Clinton’s campaign is exceedingly desperate. They have no chance of winning enough delegates to take the nomination and now they’re resorting to the nuclear option. The country is not going to vote another Clinton into the White House. We’ve had 4 years of Bush #1, 8 years of Bill Clinton, and now 8 years of Bush #2. If the country elects Hillary Clinton, the Bush & Clinton families will have ruled the nation for 24-28 years. That concept is ridiculous. We are a nation of democracy, not a nation of ruling families!

Posted by: Eric | February 18, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

WORDS ARE CHEAP!! So why is she worried if he copied the words??

Posted by: James | February 18, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

This is only a small part of what Obama has taken. His whole campaign has many reflections of Bill Clinton’s and The Man From Hope. Bill Clinton ran on the Hope and Yes, We Can idea years ago. Change might be good, but if you have to steal most of your words and ideas how far can you go?

Posted by: kibbi | February 18, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Mudslinging against Obama by Hillary and her supporters gives we swing-voters the permission to vote Republican free from the guilt that they’re going to rot under the oppression of the far-right.
Too bad so sad – should have thought of that before calling Obama supporters naive and stupid . . .

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 18, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

Obama will tell it like it is, and this will be lost in a footnote of his campaign to the White House. Clinton is defiantly not getting the support from Edwards after a stunt like this. I wonder if they know something that we don’t?

Posted by: mynameisdaveo | February 18, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

“Fired up and ready to Go”, “Bring our country together,” “Yes we can,” and “Turn the Page” are Obama’s words? Oh, please! Next thing you know he’ll claim to have invented the Internet!

Posted by: cicadalady | February 18, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Like I’ve always said “four score and seven years ago ……………..

Posted by: jeff | February 18, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

Now that it’s slipping away, you see the Clinton campaign for what it is. The most shallow, desperate, grasping, off-the-issue power grab we’ve ever seen in our presidential politics. Please, good Democrats, end this mess so we as a country can rid ourselves of these disgusting people.

Posted by: Jack | February 18, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

Desperate attacks by an increasingly desperate campaign.
At least that’s one response. I suppose the other, the one that Clinton prefer I have, is: “oh my gosh, I never knew candidates had help writing their speeches!”
Lol. I’m sure this one will get Clinton supporters fired up, but its about as meaningful as the attacks on his fear of debating for a 21st time or his kindergarten record.

Posted by: Paul | February 18, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

Let’s see what’s more important. The Iraq war, health care, the economy or tit for tat word games Clinton wants to play. I see she has her priorities in order. Same old politics of distractions. I gets she’s desperate for votes. Grow a back bone and some integrity please.

Posted by: JT | February 18, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

Will Oprah be making a “statement” on this plagiarism or does she discriminate when someone she supports betrays her? I’ll be waiting and watching!

Posted by: jack | February 18, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

Borrowed? Is this Plagiarism? Is he making attribution whenever he borrows the words and phrases of others? There is a female political pundit on TV who was severely sanctioned because of plagiarism. Now comes this guy who uses one word, “change” over and over again. Fine, but where’s the beef?” Afraid to debate Hillary, he now goes off and borrows the words of others. I have said about him, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Posted by: benvictor | February 18, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

It is so interesting to see that NOW the Obama cult wants to talk about the issues. What a difference a day makes!

Posted by: jim | February 18, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

As this has turned out, this snake oil salesman Hussien is selling fake snake oil. Amen!

Posted by: John K | February 18, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

Look. These words weren’t copy righted. No one was infringed upon and how many other things said by these candidates are either direct quotes of other people or warmed over campaign promises and oratory from 43 other presidential election cycles and presidential hopefuls? We’ve all heard it all before in one way, shape or form. So what’s the big deal??

Posted by: fletch | February 18, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

whats wrong in picking good words from others …Hill is so mean…Obama used words from MLK and JFK… you sould encourage someone who pick good ideas and good thoghts …so go OBAMA … can someone tell why Hill borrowed Bill’s legassy ??? hate hill – bill

Posted by: sud | February 18, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Obama is no different than Hillary or McCain. I really don’t understand what all the hoopla is all about regarding Obama. He took money from nuclear companies and revised his senate bill from mandatory reporting of nuclear leaks to voluntary reporting of nuclear leaks. Now, he copies speech from some one else. What is the change we are to believe in when he is elected?
It is not about for or against Obama, but it is about the need to really look at his past records. Many leaders in the past have swept its people to rousing emotion and frenzy and did the inspiring words ever mirror the reality?
Whenever there is a politician that is achieving those conditions we must examine in details before we get buyer’s remorse.
How many people know about how Obama took money from nuclear companies and diluted the bill so that it becomes teethless and was never even passed as legislation.
It never hurts to scrutinize then make your decision.

Posted by: All The Same | February 18, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Jim, Republicons need to watch their cockiness too – don’t blow it with slams that aren’t true . . .

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 18, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

So where’s the “New Ideas” that the Obama cult are bragging around?
What’s next that we’ll hear from Obama? Inspirational messages from Hallmark cards???
Ha Ha Ha

Posted by: Nicole | February 18, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

Of course ABC news waits untill the bottom of the story to state that at the same time the worthless Clinton campaign was holding there news conference the Obame campaign released a video showing Hillary Clinton using lines she stole directly from Barack Obama in speeches. She can be seen saying in speeches….”I’m fired up and ready to go.” That is a direct line from Barack Obama; he uses at the end of alot his speeches. There is a big differance between stealing a direct line from your rival as Hillary Clinton has done and Barack Obama using a line his good friend Deval Patrick urged him to use in a speech. I urge both of the Clintons to go away and never return agian to public life. They’re pathetic and bad for this country.

Posted by: adam | February 18, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

A vote for partisanship and Hillary is a vote to widen the divide between the haves and have-nots.
Hillary supporters are so cocky and driven by greed they think they’ve got their entitlements in the bag – not Obama supporters’ problem when you’re left to rot by the Republicans in 08 . . .

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 18, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

Obama’s true colors are starting to show up. I am not duped by the media driven sensationalism about him. It’s true that “Yes we can” doesn’t come from him. It’s the English translation of the Spanish motto “Si se puede” from the Latino community.

Posted by: Rosa Gomez | February 18, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

“Who’s Hussein? Saddam is dead.”
Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.

Posted by: John | February 18, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Clintons’ camp like diversion. The issues Americans are facing have nothing to do with this meaningless question of “words”. It is even ridiculous to hear from Hillary such a remark about Obama speeches. Did somebody say anything about the african proverb she made her own in her book “it takes a village to raise a child”? Is she honest enough to tell people who are quoting this that she didn’t generate the words herself? I used to admire the Clintons a lot but with this campaign, I know now who they are really.

Posted by: Fyd | February 18, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

“Obama is starting to sound like a little boy in kindergarten who is crying because Hillary took his milk. There is no copyright on “catch” phrases. He plagiarized an entire speech, but he turns on Hillary for using his catch phrases. How juvenile. This man is not Presidential material.”
This is so correct! I agree.

Posted by: jk | February 18, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

Its funny to hear people repeating Clinton’s attacks nearly word for word on Obama’s use of someone else’s words, lol.

Posted by: Paul | February 18, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

Jish there you have it, Hillary is a flipflopper and obama just makes wrong choices. What else needs to be said

Posted by: billy bob | February 18, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

Rosa, why would you vote for a candidate who can’t win against McCain unless you support deporting all illegals – is that where latinos really stand? You think you’ll get more respect if you’re all legal citizens?

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 18, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

Yawn.

Posted by: Matt Sutton | February 18, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

“Who’s Hussein? Saddam is dead.”
-Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.
Amen!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: NORosa | February 18, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

Same goes for Chris – why would you vote for Hillary knowing it’s essentially a vote for McCain . . . what if he’s pressured to support a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage?

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 18, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

Hmmm… I wonder why the Democrats continue to lose elections. If roughly half of them consider the spurned wife-turned- senator of a philandering, lying ex president their most viable option for winning back the White House, it’s no wonder why most of the country remains unimpressed with their choice and votes Republican. I used to vote democrat, but if the Clinton Couple is chosen as the democratic nominee (remember, its a 2 for 1 deal), I will certainly vote republican as will many others.

Posted by: kinase11 | February 18, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

I can’t believe this is your leading story–and without a clearer reference to the many examples where Clinton borrowed from Obama. Every other news organization is reporting this in a much more balanced way. Oh, wait, except for Drudge.
Great job, ABC.

Posted by: kate | February 18, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

It matters because it shows he is not an original thinker. He copies from other successful campaigns. That doesn’t really sound like someone that wants change. It sounds like someone that knows he doesn’t have any original ideas, so he has to plagiarize them (like his economic plan – Chicago Sun Times & McCain camp). He is a great orator, but this shows he lacks substance of is own. Unfortunately, too many people in this country look at how the message is delivered rather than what the substance of the message is. The Dems may not figure it out, but the Rep machine will and they will exploit it for all it’s worth in the GE.

Posted by: Stephanie | February 18, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

kinase11 – I totally agree . . . the far-left is just as commando as the far-right. Arrogant, demanding, over-confident, unwilling to compromise. They fancy themselves to be some sort of ‘victims’ but the truth is they get what they deserve . . .

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 18, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

It is ok to borrow someone else phrases but they must be referencing such as “Patrick Deval said…” but Obama did not do that, it means he stole them.

Posted by: ironroof | February 18, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

The video speaks for itself. Doesn’t make a difference how the media is portraying it.

Posted by: jim | February 18, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Obama’s true colors are starting to show up. I am not duped by the media driven sensationalism about him. It’s true that “Yes we can” doesn’t come from him. It’s the English translation of the Spanish motto “Si se puede” from the Latino community.
A point of great concern for me as a democrat is his affiliation with Mr. Jeremiah Wright, his minister and spiritual advisor in his church in Chicago. Mr. Wright has purportedly praised and honored a very controversial minister, Mr. Louis Farrakhan, calling him “the embodiment of greatness.” Mr. Farrakhan is known to have made racist and homophobic comments against Jews and gays.

Posted by: Jamie | February 18, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

ROFL at the people suggesting that we should vote for stay in Iraq for the next 100 years McCain who also sang bomb, bomb Iran. No McCain is totally unfit to be president. I would vote Hillary Clinton over McCain any day of the week. Hillary has at least said she would stand up to big oil. Don’t recall hearing a word out of McCain on this subject. A vote for McCain is basically a vote for a 3rd Bush term.

Posted by: zapper | February 18, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

Hmm, me thinks the king is actually a wolf in sheeps clothing.

Posted by: jeff | February 18, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

Good Grief – the president IS a leadership position, we will be pleased to have a president who has the great gift to uplift, inspire and motivate people. All this yammering about the difference between words and actions implies Hillary thinks a president does the work directly and falls to consider all those people who must achieve their ends by motivating, leading, inspiring others to do the nitty gritty details.
I am tired of dumbed down politicing!

Posted by: vmcgreen | February 18, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

COME ONE PEOPLE. This story is ridiculous and blown completely out of proportion. Simply the Clintons doing anything to set Obama back. THEIR CAMPAIGN IS IN DEEP TROUBLE.
THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN…WHY ELSE HAS Hillary REPEATEDLY ALLUDED TO SUPERDELEGATES.
MAY OBAMA’S WINNING STREAK KEEP ON.

Posted by: shanee | February 18, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

You guys are grasping at straws with this. He said a couple of words that his friend and Senior Adviser told him to use and you guys are jumping all over it like its a big deal.
You all sound like a bunch of 8 year olds on here. How said and pathetic these Clinton supporters have become.
Your true colors will shine through in the end. The hate is piercing right now…it will explode sooner or later.

Posted by: for real | February 18, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

Have you Hilary supporters even read what Patrick said? It’s a non-issue. You all must be so desperate after the whooping you took last week.

Posted by: JT | February 18, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

zapper – spoken like a true Hillary supporter. No awareness of anybody else but you . . . I can just hear you decrying how it’s all the ‘stupid’ far-right’s fault when Hillary gets trounced by McCain in 08 when in reality it’s all about you . . .
I refuse to feel guilty about Hillary supporters getting treated like dirt the next 8 years if they refuse to take responsibility for their actions and think of anybody but themselves.
If it’s a choice between doling out entitlements to the Iraqis or to Hillary supporters, I see Iraqis as the true victims of their circumstances. And apparently the majority of the country when given the choice between Hilary and McCain feels the same way.

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 18, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

What a fraud he is ? Sheep in wolf clothes and that’s also borrowed.
Sick of these type of politicans.
GOD SAVE AMERICA from Barack Hussein.

Posted by: johny | February 18, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

Why is this called blown out of proportion by obama supporters and an important issue to clintonites? Do clintonites value honesty more than obamaites? What ever happened to honesty, integrity and leadership?

Posted by: dee deedee again | February 18, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

To claim authorship of “yes we can”, which is not his “ready to go” something everyone learned in kindergarden and “fired up” from the Paower Rangers, is typical Obama arrogance.
There is no comparison to lifting a whole speech, not to mention a whole platform and Clinton’s economic plan to go with it.
The man reads well from a teleprompter. That’s no reason to think he can be president.
By the way Duval’s constituents voted overwhelmingly for Hillary. So we know how well the change rhetoric worked out there. Once the guy got into office he’s been completely ineffectual.

Posted by: s.b. | February 18, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

This man whines too much! I’m so tired of hearing about him and his stolen or borrowed words. What a loser. If he wrote two books, why can’t he write his own fresh one-liners? I guess it’s just easier not to. Sad.

Posted by: david | February 18, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

In a telephone interview on Sunday, Patrick told The New York Times that he and Obama discussed attacks by their respective rivals last summer and again last week. He said he advised Obama how to get around Clinton’s criticism about his speechmaking, but didn’t want credit for the counterpunch.
“Who knows who I am? The point is more important than whose argument it is,” Patrick told The New York Times. “It’s a transcendent argument.”

Posted by: JT | February 18, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

I recall from what I have read that MLK periodically dealt with these kinds of accusations. Since Obama was borrowing from his ally, Gov. Deval Patrick, I doubt there was any real mal-intent. To me, this whole issue looks pretty forgiveable. Let’s not forget that political speeches are a lot different than books or term papers. Next issue please…

Posted by: w_roos | February 18, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

wow, a lot of bitter people out there. it’ll be ok. obama will be the next president. hillary can’t even run a campaign correctly. hired her incompetent best friends, like W. did in Iraq. it’s ok bitter people, just go back to work.

Posted by: Aguilar | February 18, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

This race is so far along, and both candidates are so well-defined (unlike Biden in ’88) that this whole controversy will only serve to cause Obama and Clinton supporters to dig in behind their own candidates.
Obama was given “permission” to use the lines by a friend and supporter in Deval Patrick. This gives Obama supporters what they need to stand by their man, but won’t be enough to assuage Clinton supporters who will just tack this on as another reason to justify their support for Clinton.
This may have the effect of causing some very late-deciders to go to Clinton, but looking at exit polls, she’s already been doing fairly well among those who decide in the booth. This story will soon be over-shadowed by the results of tomorrow’s primary.

Posted by: WisconinVoter | February 18, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

this is ridiculous. this is the only thing the clinton campaign can come up with. get over it, no big deal.

Posted by: sarajane | February 18, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

I smell a republican win coming in 08.

Posted by: dee deedee again | February 18, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

I doubt very much the Clinton camp started this. The GOP wants nothing more than the continued sniping between Clinton and Obama supporters for as long as possible so that some large block of democrats feel disenfranchised come November. If these message boards are any indication, they are getting what they want.

Posted by: Nicole | February 18, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

A political speech is a representation of your philosophy and your intentions as a leader. Yes, quite different from a term paper.

Posted by: irma | February 18, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Well we all know well in Chicago that Obama is all talk and not actions. Thats why he always read “his speeches” using the teleprompter!
He likes to quote all former leaders and said that he is like them; now how many faces Obama has???
Lastly is not enough for him to copy lines from otehr speeches or take catchy ” one liners like “YES WE CAN” translation of “SI SE PUEDE” which is widely used in Mexico and Latin America including Hugo Chavez; but he also has been late to the issues, he copied most of Edwards agenda and misled people about his “UNIVERSAL” health care, which is not universal after all!!
I don’t believe that phony. He is just a fancy Jesse Jackson or Sharpton with Harvard degree, big money and Oprah LOL

Posted by: Peter_Chgo | February 18, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Dems snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. One more time.

Posted by: dee deedee again | February 18, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

Obama is winning people hearts and minds because of his rhetoric. It turned out that he stole some of them from someone else. This is a shame and what left of him.

Posted by: ironroof | February 18, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

Give me a freakin break! Hillary is grasping at straws. If she would get a personality and learn to as least appear genuine then perhaps more people would listen to her rhetoric. If you would refer back to Good Ole Hillary’s book: It Takes A Whole Village…. you will see that this is not a new idea or new words that she came up with and ultimately benefitted financially from. This was derived from an African Proverb that I understand that she did not even acknowledge. If Obama’s words are merely words then why would she be concerned about him speaking. Because she knows that he is charismatic and much more genuine than she’ll ever be. Why is it that no one is buying her crap, at least most intelligent folk aren’t? Not all Black Arkansans back the Clintons, especially Hillary. She is an opportunist and very cunning, that is why Bill sought love in many other places. I have never believed that she would go to the whitehouse and represent women in a positive manner. She actually represent more male egocentric characteristics. She is power hungry and as any ruthless opportunist, she will do whatever it takes to get what she wants. If you think Slick Willy was in the deceptive practices while they were in the Whitehouse all by himself, think again, she is the mastermind. L

Posted by: Tammy | February 18, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

There goes the Clinton’s again, trying negativity. They thrive from running negative campaigns. Dirty tactics rife in the Clinton camp. They are desperate. How can a woman who takes more money from lobbyist be an agent of change?

Posted by: Franklin | February 18, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

That is very unoriginal coming from presidential candidate Obama. Is that how you expect to solve the problems this country face? Not only is he inexperience but arrogant too for when he said to reporters that he gives good speeches. Then he starts acting like a kid that got caught with the hand in the cookie jar, blaming his opponent for using other lines before. We call that projection. Let’s grow up and take responsibility for our actions. Let’s vote for someone responsible and reliable with experience that will steer this country the better times.

Posted by: Persio | February 18, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

The rookie car salesman has been getting a free ride with the BIG MEDIA.
This salesman is a big PHONY
..plagiarism
..REZKO connection
..present votes for than a hundred times
..health care does not cover 15 million
..unpaid parking ticket for 17 years
..inexperience
PLEASE WAKE UP DEMOCRATS!!!!

Posted by: greg limes | February 18, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

The rookie car salesman has been getting a free ride with the BIG MEDIA.
This salesman is a big PHONY
..plagiarism
..REZKO connection
..present votes for than a hundred times
..health care does not cover 15 million
..unpaid parking ticket for 17 years
..inexperience
PLEASE WAKE UP DEMOCRATS!!!!

Posted by: greg limes | February 18, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

Let me begin by saying that I voted for Obama in the Virginia primary. However, an incident that took place on the day I went to the polls made me stop and ask myself, why am I really voting for Obama, and do I know enough about this candidate, other than what I hear from the media and my friends, that makes me vote for him. At the polling place, the lady standing ahead of me in the line said she was a Republican and so was handed a Red Card to vote. When Obama’s name did not appear to her, the lady corrected her error and asked for the card given to Democrats. This made me ask myself, how much do I know about Obama other than he is a Senator from Illinios who happens to have a strong appeal based on his rhetorical skills and power of oratory. Honestly, nothing. So I decided to begin listening closely to all candidates, Democrats and Republicans. Today, it was the final straw with regard to the Obama phenomenon, and please do not forget that I already voted for him. Yesterday I heard on the news that Senator Clinton is doing her best to beat the weather in Wisconsin and attend some of the functions scheduled for her there. On the other hand I heard, in the morning, that due to bad weather conditions, Obama decided to spend the day in Illinois. Later in the day, Obama went to meet Senator John Edwards, obviously to solicit his endorsement. To tell you the truth, I was furious at myself. Clinton obviously cares about her campaign and her people. Obama, Oh, Obama, he already has the people’s vote wrapped around his finger, based on his rhetorical skills which I will come back to later. So why should he care to go to Wisconsin, no, to he should go to Senator Edwards in order to give MSNBC pundits another reason to come out shouting how great he is, look, Senator Edwards endorsed him. And in true Obama fashion, once caught, his campaign alleges that the meeting was scheduled in advance. Now comes his power of oratory which proved to be false today after he is caught using Governor Deval Patrick’s words. And again, in true Obama fashion, instead of admitting that he plagiarized the Governor’s words, he gives it a new word “Trading Ideas”. How nice, is that what the senator trying to teach the young voters and college students so enthusiastic about his message. Go plagiarize your term papers and when caught say, “It’s all about Trading Ideas. The President of the United States used this excuse, why not me?” Obama, I am sorry I was fooled by your “TRADED IDEAS” and gave you my vote. And now, thinking about it, was your great speech against the war in Iraq really fueled by your concern about our troops and people in the United States or a service done to some of your biggest campaign contributors in Illinois? Senator Hillary, I have to say one word that might correct any wrong done by people like me, who were naive enough to follow a momentum, a phenomenon rather than working their own brains and not relying on their friends’ or the media to make up their minds. No matter what the outcome of this elections would be, I know one thing, Obama will never have my vote again.

Posted by: M.B. | February 18, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

Obama doesn’t get it. Yes…words do matter, but it matters more whether they are your own or not. Why should we believe anything that comes out of his mouth. Obviously, it does not represent his true intentions because they are someone else’s thoughts and ideas. What a cheat! He will do and say anything to get elected.

Posted by: Patricia Mejia | February 18, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

How old are BO supporters and what is his campaign trying to cover up?
Phrases Hill stole
yes, we will;
fired up and ready to go;
turn the page
huh? These have been around for 30-40 and most likely more years … these are indeed mundane common expressions
hell I know I have said I am all fired up and ready to go about a dozen times in my life before I heard BO use it -
Yes – we will – Is that not a Beattles song?
What BO did Sat night was brilliant – he used famous quotes from famous people of major import that showed the power of smart words by smart people – it was insanely smart of him
Shame it was not his idea and that he and his campaign consultants lifted it nearly verbatim from another campaigner and did not give credit — all he needed to do is start with – as others have said – he could point back to that as credit given – but at the time have it mean Kennedy and Churchill etc
But he did not – cause – well cause he by now thinks he can do as he wishes and not be called on it -
But now his Teflon shield is torn – and his reneges on what money to use in GC are visible and McCain drew first blood cutting his skin – now his wife’s commnets that for the FIRST time she is proud of this country are being examind (she is not like many of his followers only a child of bush and clinton days) -
And while we are at it – I have no problem with Barack or Hussein – but do have a problem with it not being his born names
Like Geraldo Rivera – who others knew at Columbia School of Journalism as Jerry Rivers when it was cool to be Jewish – before he wanted to land a job as a Hispanic newsman and became Geraldo Rivera (yes he is born of to Hispanic and Jewish parents) — So Barrack is Barry (last name I would misspell) when it suits to be white and he is Barrack Obama when it suits to be black
Imagine if indeed he were Barry Obims a white candidate — what would be his appeal once we knew his words were not his own and his promises not always important enough to keep

Posted by: Ted in Chicago | February 18, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

How old are BO supporters and what is his campaign trying to cover up?
Phrases Hill stole
yes, we will;
fired up and ready to go;
turn the page
huh? These have been around for 30-40 and most likely more years … these are indeed mundane common expressions
hell I know I have said I am all fired up and ready to go about a dozen times in my life before I heard BO use it -
Yes – we will – Is that not a Beattles song?
What BO did Sat night was brilliant – he used famous quotes from famous people of major import that showed the power of smart words by smart people – it was insanely smart of him
Shame it was not his idea and that he and his campaign consultants lifted it nearly verbatim from another campaigner and did not give credit — all he needed to do is start with – as others have said – he could point back to that as credit given – but at the time have it mean Kennedy and Churchill etc
But he did not – cause – well cause he by now thinks he can do as he wishes and not be called on it -
But now his Teflon shield is torn – and his reneges on what money to use in GC are visible and McCain drew first blood cutting his skin – now his wife’s commnets that for the FIRST time she is proud of this country are being examind (she is not like many of his followers only a child of bush and clinton days) -
And while we are at it – I have no problem with Barack or Hussein – but do have a problem with it not being his born names
Like Geraldo Rivera – who others knew at Columbia School of Journalism as Jerry Rivers when it was cool to be Jewish – before he wanted to land a job as a Hispanic newsman and became Geraldo Rivera (yes he is born of to Hispanic and Jewish parents) — So Barrack is Barry (last name I would misspell) when it suits to be white and he is Barrack Obama when it suits to be black
Imagine if indeed he were Barry Obims a white candidate — what would be his appeal once we knew his words were not his own and his promises not always important enough to keep

Posted by: Ted in Chicago | February 18, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

Barack Obama said: “I’ve written two books, wrote most of my speeches, …..”
Democrats can not afford to wait and see the Republican strategists scrutinizing those books and speeches and using them against Barack Obama.

Posted by: Angel | February 18, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

Obama was happy to plagiarize till he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
I say the man is a fraud – an empty suit pre-packaged by David Axelrod (i.e. the new Karl Rove)
I say lets go look in to his book or (books as Obama says) and see where he got the stuff in it. It will be worth while to do so

Posted by: Hector | February 18, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

I wish Obama was my lecturer when I went to university I could have just copied tracts of work and submitted it and when he questioned me re plagarisim I would have simply turned to him and claimed ” I have written a thesis and most of my own essays so I am putting aside that question you just raised” and then sat back and awaited my pass with honours.
It may not be the biggest scandal to hit politics but don’t condone actions you wouldn’t accept from your own children. Or actions he wouldn’t have accepted from his own students.
Man up Obama and own your mistake instead of this waffle you are trying to explain it away with. That would be Presidential.

Posted by: poor me | February 18, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

Hillary turning a few word phrases of Obama’s is hardly comparable to his excerpting large portions of, and nearly verbatim, another’s speech without attribution is plagiarism. Obama showed his seething anger at the recent WI Democratic Party event. There’s nothing original about him and it’s about time that his dirty little secrets are finally being exposed. The sad thing is is that his rabid supporters will excuse him for his plagiarizing, since they haven’t a clue about the seriousness of such a matter.

Posted by: Terry | February 18, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

No matter how Obama and his troop of zombies try to spin it, he’s admitted he’s a phony.

Posted by: KDH55 | February 18, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

Take Obama’s words out and the Emperor is naked. Plagiarism is serious because it involves a) integrity b) original thinking c) capacity and d) judgment. All qualities required for a president. The democratic campaign is stressful and it is supposed to be to eliminate the weak candidates. This is as close to a Howard Dean’s scream as we are going to get. In sum, Obama cracked under pressure. Republicans will explore his weakness to the full extent. Again, his lack of experience will require a strong VP, which will eat any of his agenda.

Posted by: cwu | February 18, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

M.B. – you voted for someone who cares about the people of this country. Who has not taken money from federal lobbyists unlike Clinton who has taken more than any other candidate from either party. Who is brilliant and can make good decisions for the whole of America, not the rich people who contributed to his campaign. A person who can get the Republican in front of you to vote for him. Someone without high negatives who will unite the fracturing conservative base to vote against him simple because of the past. A person who doesn’t continue the 28 straight years of Bushes and Clintons in the White House. The only remaining candidate that is a good enough leader and executive that he has been prepared from the beginning running his campaign and staying on message and remaining fiscally sound. The other 2 have had financial problems. Sentaor Clinton has raised over $140 million dollars! She was not prepared for a campaiign that lasted past Feb 5th. She has surrounded herself with close supporters from her past. Senator Obama has run a great campaign and has prepared for any contingency including a long race. If a candidate goes broke during the campaign, how are they going to run the country? I live in NC (we vote in May) and I am so excited that this year my primary vote may actually count. I cannot wait to vote for Barack Obama. It is amazing to me that many of my fellow Democrats plan too unite the country and get tough legislation passed by putting a Clinton in the White House. Good grief!

Posted by: TSnow27604 | February 18, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

i think this is not at all a big deal. everyone is just on obama’s case because he’s black. if he is good friends with patrick, and patrick isn’t concerend, neither should anyone else. he doesn’t care, so go on with ur lives people. hillary is losing big time in this race and she can’t take it. simple as that….

Posted by: youknowit456 | February 18, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

YES HE CAN…. THIS SALES MAN IS PHONY…The rookie sales man is doing plagiarism. This is shame for copying somebody’s speech! The sales man is following HRC footstep when it comes to economy.
What happened between this rookie sales man and REZKO? Is the rookie will return the house and lot that he bought from this scum? YES HE CAN…. but I don’t think so because they are both scum….Blood sticker than water, YES HE CAN!
What happened to his present votes? He did not even know how to vote yes or no for a difficult legislation? This is a fact. A first grader knows how to differentiate Yes or No. It was wrong, and it will always be wrong. How can you vote for person who does not have that capacity? NO WE CAN’T…
OOPS
OOPS
I COPIED THE ABOVE FROM ANOTHER POSTER WHO IS NOT IN LOVE WITH BARCACK OBAMA – HELL NO NEED TO GIVE THAT PERSON CREDIT FOR ORIGINAL THOUGHT
Of course there is – the above is to me good thinking but it is NOT mine and I need to say I copied it – I copied it from antoher poster here
And that is not correct to do – even if I am BO or Ted in Chicago – to copy and not give credit is wrong – just ask J Biden – he was run out of a campaign for borrowing phrases from other politicians
And to the poster who noted the current state of MASS situation and how NH voters realised they were being spoken to in borrowed non accredited words and that is part of the reason for the total surprise by HRC in NH – Thank you for telling wise truths — I sure hope they are your own

Posted by: Ted in Chicago | February 18, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

Blah, blah, blah. This is just further evidence that there is so little negative to be found about this man that this is the lengths the opposition will go to in order to get a negative story run. Are you telling me that HRC writes every word of her own speeches? Does she give credit for the lines she does not write. He’d friends with the guy and he said, use that thing I said that time, its applicable. HRC wishes she had friends like that. Shame on ABC and every other news outlet that gives any legitimacy to the story.

Posted by: Louis | February 18, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

Wow, ABC. Way to be transcribers for the Clinton campaign. Tough work, huh?

Posted by: Lisa | February 18, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

I heard that speech where Obama was accused of stealing someone else’s words. Obama was illustrating a point that words are not just words. Hillary and her gang steal words all of the time, and not for illustrative purposes, she simply has no originality.

Posted by: Patriot2008 | February 18, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

This just shows that Obama doesn’t have an origional thought in his head. He is just full of one liners he borrowed form other people. He did not invent the word change as well. We need a president who will be ready to lead on day one and that is not Obama.

Posted by: Andrew | February 18, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

The big bad Clintons are picking on poor little Barack and its just not fair and now he has a boo boo.
He’s such a nice boy maybe he could be President one day when he is old enough to play in the big kids playground.

Posted by: oh dear | February 18, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

Is Obama claiming “YES WE CAN”, AKA
“Si Se Puede” as his original phrase. We don’t need a sound bite for president.
Cesar Chavez deserves the respect as a grass roots leader and an American icon.
Obama claiming “Yes We Can” was stolen from him is a joke. It only shows his disrespect for the Xicano/Mexicano, Latino, Hispanic communites.

Posted by: Al Gonzales | February 18, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

Since the workds of Gov. Deval Patrick were so powerful and worht repeating, and everyone is offended, let’s correct the situation and I say vote for Gov. Deval Patrick..I’ve watched him for a while…Chicago to Mass…He would be great at President.

Posted by: Anita Marlow | February 18, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA AND HIS CAMPAIN IS SICK. THEY ARE THIEF AND DON’T ADMIT THEY ARE THIEF EVEN WITH PROVEN GUILTY.
OH MY GOD, WHAT KIND OF HOPE AND CHANGE THEY ARE GOING TO DELIVER TO AMERICAN PEOPLE!
VOTE HILLARY IF YOU HAVEN’T VOTED YET.

Posted by: Uma, mpls, MN | February 18, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

WISCONSIN, WAKE UP…will you vote for a liar? empty suit, no new ideas man..CHANGE FOR THE SAKE OF CHANGE..WHAT CHANGE? You know that Obama has no plans on HOW TO MAKE CHANGE..HE IS A FAKE.

Posted by: Antonn | February 18, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

Maybe if he can wiggle out of this one he might have a chance at presidency. But if he can wiggle, as far as plegery, Deval Patrick said no problem, therfor it was just unoriginal the speech, should have change up a lot more words and make it his. If I was obama I would be wondering sabotage? Deval Patrick should have known he used it before in a speech, and that would cause problems for Obama. Is Deval Patrick his speech writer, Obama’s?

Posted by: Sanseh | February 18, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

These are just word, whether its stolen from or not.
Somebody should check how he cleared his exam, may be copied, check his assignment, he is master of Plagiarism.

Posted by: hall | February 18, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

I am voting for Senator Hillary Clinton she is the SURE THING!!!

Posted by: Gabriel Prats | February 18, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

This portion of my reply is copied from article above….Obama pushed back against questions about whether he has ever plagiarized before. Obama said he usually gives credit when quoting people or using ideas, but he insisted that he is friends with Patrick.
Now let me emphasize on a portion of what he said…Obama said he “usually gives credit” when quoting people or using “ideas”.
Will then Obama, how about giving credit to Hillary. WHY? because just about everything you speak of during you campaign rallies are Hillary’s “ideas” not yours. When are you going to step up to the plate and acknowledge that?

Posted by: sssssss | February 18, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

Who Cares!! As long as his point comes across. Stealing words, Wow can we move on to something of more substance please!!!!

Posted by: TERENCE | February 18, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

Sounds like he is following in the bumbling steps of Duval Patrick. Birds of a feather do flock together !!! Come on with all that money you have raised Obama – you can at least hire some qualified speech writers who won’t steal the words of other men !!! I might even think of voting for you if you stopped with the pretty speeches and slogans and actually said something worthwhile for a change. !!! -

Posted by: JIMBO | February 18, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

Who Cares!! As long as his point comes across. Stealing words, Wow can we move on to something of more substance please!!!!

Posted by: TERENCE | February 18, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

I am voting for Senator Hillary Clinton she is the SURE THING!!!

Posted by: Gabriel Prats | February 18, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

I’m surprised Obama didn’t say that Hillary made him do it. Seems like some of his cult followers are blaming Hillary for Obama’s plagiarism. Watch the video it’s his mouth moving – or is it!

Posted by: jeff | February 18, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

Grasping at straws. This is the sort of politics that we want to get away from. Last minute and desperate and nothing related to the issues we are faced with. Clinton’s negatives are definitely going up. Count me in as another Dem that will not support HRC if she steals the nomination.

Posted by: Paul Weldon | February 18, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

God — you can just SMELL the Clintonian desperation, all the way from Wisconsin….
Oh and, didja see the new CNN poll today out of Texas? Obama and Clinton are TIED!

Posted by: henry | February 18, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

SInce all three of Obama’s parents have PHd’s, one assumes he knows the definition of the word plagerism. HE stole the expression “yes we can” and he certainly didn’t author the term Ready to go, or Fired UP. its impossible to plagerize expressions of three words.
It is however possible to plagerize entire speeches, which is what he has done. And he is fully aware of this fact.

Posted by: s.b. | February 18, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah -
Now obama is starting to sidestep! “I should have given so and so more credit”!
Really – That one statement shows how utterly condencending and arrogant obama really is. He is finally having to admit that he is just like every other politician.
And the obama supporters are going to blame it all on Hillary. And yes, when there are any negatives about obama, the race cards is played by the obama people.
What a absurd mess.

Posted by: Lou | February 18, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

“I did not have sex with that woman.” Just words. “It depends on what your definition of is, is.” Just words. I like how the Clinton campaign is going after Obama on matters of character and principle.

Posted by: renee | February 18, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

Plagiarism? Obama? When he gets through basing in his on sunshine, Mr. Brilliant needs to give Eddie Murphy credit for his “Yes, I can” phrase from ‘The Nutty Professor’ movie, and the “change is here” phrase from the movie ‘Lean On Me.’

Posted by: marie | February 18, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

The right words spoken at the right time by the right person are what make the words important, not just the words themselves. This hollow rhetoric given by a shallow competitor in order to glam on to some oratory of history without any real meaning is deceiving. Can Barak Obama hypnotize people into believing he actually said something of substance, YES HE CAN!

Posted by: Dennis | February 18, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

I think Obama is beginning to “BOMB”!!!Ha Ha Ha………get it… La La La bamba….

Posted by: Jesse James | February 18, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

What a difference a day makes. NOW the Obama supporters want to talk about policy. Hmm, I wonder if they think a debate in Wisconsin would have been a good idea.

Posted by: jim | February 18, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

Mr. Obama wanted pretend that he’s Mr. Clean but he’s not. Even though he’s a baby-boomer (1944-1964) he was born in 1960, but tries hard to appear that he belongs to a younger generation. In three years he can get his AARP card. He says that he’s original, but his speeches are full of borrowed material from MLK, JFK and FDR, not to mention his plagiarizing of Gov. Patrick’s speech. He says he’s against the establishment, but his major support comes from Hollywood and from Washington media establishment; we all know how corrupt Hollywood is and we all know that Washington media gave us George Bush and Iraq war! Mr. Obama says that he’s not accepting money from special interests groups, but he accepted campaign contributions from lobbyists and special interests groups, for example Mr. Obama received $261,784 from pharmaceuticals/Health Products Industry. (Source: opensecrets.org) Until very recently, Mr. Obama also had habit of accepting private jet travel from America’s large corporations. His long friend and backer Tony Resko, the slum lord from Chicago who contributed about $140,000.00 to Obama presidential campaign, who is now in jail awaiting trial, Mr. Obama donated the money back to charities when the story broke out in Chicago newspapers. “When Sen. Barack Obama decided to buy a stately $1.65 million home last year on Chicago’s South Side, Antoin “Tony” Rezko and his wife wasted no time. The same day the Obamas closed on the house, the Rezkos closed on the purchase of the adjoining vacant lot, which once was the estate’s lush side yard.” Chicago Tribune said. I think lots of interesting information is going come out about Mr. Obama during his buddy Mr. Rezko’s trial. Mr. Obama is a constitutional lawyer, right, he should have known better. Mr. Obama bought his house for more than quarter of a million dollars less than the market price. Mr. Obama has been a chronic smoker for long years, before he cleaned up his act for the nomination bid, including losing all his appointment schedules as a state senator. As a long time smoker Mr. Obama carries a health risk greater than of John McCain’s age factor.

Posted by: chandra perera | February 18, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

I think we Wisconsin Democrats better think long and hard. First, find out about “Camp Obama.” Second, taking someone elses words and leading people to believe they are your own, is not honest. The words he spoke from the Governor of Massachusetts are word for word however when you listen to the Governor he gave a much better speech.
Obama is staged. I feel as though Oprah has given us another Dr. PHIL, what is more creepy is the 7 counts of fainting at his “rallies” I heard clips from his response at each of the 7. Same words to a tee. Always someone in the front row, and he stops his talk and throws the person water then declares “DON’T WORRY SHE WILL BE FINE.” How does he know?????????????????
This is just too creepy for me. You probably are convincing yourself this is not big deal…yes it is. OR, you don’t believe it, take some time.

Posted by: Maria | February 18, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

PLIAGIARISM – a serious offense. We teach this to high school students -NEVER pliagiarize, and OBAMA didn’t learn this? What a shame! I wonder what why this didn’t make headlines! What is CNN and mainstream media afraid of – being accused of racism? I give up.

Posted by: myrna | February 18, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

Kathleen Willey is a very sad case who is ignored by the media because of the tragedy surrounding her life.
Her gutless husband embezzled millions of dollars then committed suicide and left her to clean up the mess. After his death she had a breakdown and became quite dellusional.
The Final report of the US office of Independant Counsel reported she gave false testimony to the FBI.
“Willey gave false information to the FBI about her sexual relationship with a former boyfriend, and acknowledged having lied about it when the agents confronted her with contradictory evidence. Following Willey’s acknowledgment of the lie, the Independent Counsel agreed not to prosecute her for false statements in this regard.”[1] ]].[citation needed] According to Independent Counsel Robert Ray’s report, “Willey’s [Paula] Jones deposition testimony differed from her grand jury testimony on material aspects of the alleged incident.”[2]
Willeys accusations of break in etc by the Clintons was shown in the subsequent TV interviews she gave to be contradictory at best.
Her situation is sad yes but credible no.

Posted by: Msg to Walter | February 18, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

So, this is all the “dirt” they’ve managed to scrape up? Too funny.

Posted by: andonandon | February 18, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm

ABC Should Have something better to talk about….. OBAMA is not dumb like his opponents! And if he used someone’s line SO WHAT!
This is a silly scenario that WOLFSON want to create for his madame Hillary!
We are fired up for OBAMA…YES WE CAN!
O B A M A ’08

Posted by: Thom Goenkar | February 18, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

One thing I can say for Hillary, is that she is so greedy for power, that she would divide her own party for it. She is shamelesss when it comes to getting what she wants at whatever cost. This woman is frightening. She is the biggest coward I know, because instead of her doing her own dirty word, she lets her croonies do it for her. She has no spine. All this crap about Obama using ONE PHRASE that wasn’ his is desperate and cruel. It is a reflection of what kind of a woman she is and it will backfire on her.

Posted by: nsvp | February 18, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

Much ado about nothing, as usual from Hillaryland.
Obama’s right — she really IS just the same old smears, lies, distortions, feints, misrepresentations, manipulations and fear-mongering style of politics. She and her group are clearly very nervous, anxious and desperate.
Form now on, I’m going to refer to her and her surrogates as “The Vast Hillary-wing Conspiracy”!
LMAO!!!

Posted by: Mark | February 18, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

“I have a Dream” “These are just word” “All people are equal”
-Plagiarist Barack Hussein Obama jr.

Posted by: Donald | February 18, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

The Clinton campaign makes me sick with these stupid trash attacks. They need to back off and let the party and this country move forward. I once admired the Clintons and I voted for Bill twice but now I am starting to despise them.

Posted by: Bob, DC | February 18, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

The Audacity of “Borrowed” Hope.

Posted by: Raj | February 18, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

You know that Clinton feels like she is in trouble when she has to use measly things like this for her attack.

Posted by: jack | February 18, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm

This has got to be the biggest non-issue of the campaign. Clinton should want to avoid the topic of plagiarism, before someone brings up “It takes a village” and ghostwriter Feinman.

Posted by: Jack Mehoff | February 18, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

OMG, its true: the new CNN poll really does have Clinton and Obama tied!

Posted by: whoa there | February 18, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

Peace,
George Bush Sr., Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush all ran on “Change”. Obama did not come up with the word.
Get a grip of yourself.
Rather than admit plagiarism, he would try to accuse Hillary of plagiarism. So, it sounds like Obama never admits mistakes, he does take responsibility for what he says either. A point Hillary made in their contentious debate (2 debates ago).
I bet, if the media go back and analyse every speech Obama had made, they can be sure they would find that he plagiarizes all the time. He has audience that cannot think for themselves. He is able to have them worship him. Mr. inspiring speaker.
Wake up people!

Posted by: SO | February 18, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

Maybe this might explain why the Hillary campaign is acting so desperate:
Barack Obama has expanded his lead over Hillary Clinton in Wisconsin to 13 points, according to Public Policy Polling’s latest survey in the state.
Also, a new CNN poll show them tied in TX.
=====
Wow. Obama!!!!

Posted by: Bob, DC | February 18, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

Mike and Noam have already done a great job explaining the ridiculousness of the Clinton campaign’s charge that Obama plagiarized from Deval Patrick, but I thought I’d add one more point. Obama’s already on record as admitting he borrows lines from Patrick (and vice versa). Stumping in New Hampshire last December, Obama said:
“But you know in the end, don’t vote your fears. I’m stealing this line from my buddy (Massachusetts Gov.) Deval Patrick who stole a whole bunch of lines from me when he ran for the governorship, but it’s the right one, don’t vote your fears, vote your aspirations. Vote what you believe.”
I look forward to the Clintons’ next desperate gambit.

Posted by: James | February 18, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

Clinton has never had an original thought in her life. Every word she speaks is written by a paid staffer and read word for word from a paper in front of her. Who is she to criticize Obama for sharing a friends line that was very appropriate to the context, and for which he had prior consent. Clinton’s “speeches”, pamphlets, and plans aren’t worth the words they waste.

Posted by: robby10001 | February 18, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

College professors and liberal academics, please defend Obama since a lot of you seem to support him. Tell us it is okay to borrow other’s phrases and passages, word by word, and not quote them. Tell your children and students that this is the right thing to do! I know you would not.

Posted by: Vickie | February 18, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

The entire Obama candidacy is based on giving “plagiarized” speeches that sound inspiring to his ditto-heads.
Now that the rest of the world is about to catch up with what some of us knew all along, Obama is what you will call a fraud. If he still has followers after this, then the country is in real trouble.

Posted by: Sam | February 18, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

Some people here are encouraging mediocrity by pitching for Obama.
At this stage country don’t want President who is expert in Plagiarism.
We want Experienced President, whether it is McCain or Hillary, we don’t want Obama who had no ethics. Even his words are stolen.
Shame on him.

Posted by: Jeb | February 18, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

Obama lecturer in constitutional law University of Chicago Law School. So would he allow his students to do as he has done???
This man trades on his words that is why it is an issue.
Everything about his campaign is paint by numbers. Check out Patricks campaign for Governor. Obamas campaign is a carbon copy. Not simply due to Axelrod. So yes it raises the question how much is genuine and how much contrived. People believed HIS message only it may just be a spiel.

Posted by: Your not in Kansas anymore | February 18, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

This is just the beginning …he copied speaches how many we do not know…in the beginning obama’s policies were heavily critized he shut up and start preaching…his resolutions started to seem very similar to what Hillary had already proposed …I think OBAMA is an expert on sitting on the fence and perhaps using other people’s words to inspire people so all that inspiring words were not even his….

Posted by: dellee | February 18, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

This really ticks me off. I’ve been following the campaign since last summer. I have never heard anything about Deval Patrick. So today I find out that he ran a campagin in 2006 with the theme of “change and yes we can,” he was a very inspiring speaker who went on to capture the nomination in Massahcusetts, he and Barrack are very good friends who share thoughts and ideas, he is a public supporer of Barrack, his state is unhappy with him and his lack of producing change as a governor that was reflected by nominating Hillary thus ignoring his and Ted Kennedy’s endorsment, and I am just NOW hearing about him. Where has the media been???????? These similarities just came to light????
And why are the Obama supporters blaming Hillary for Obama’s plagerism. Did she open his mouth and insert the words? Sounds like it was Patrick and Axelrod that did that. Any blame heading their way? This is unbelievable. I’m sure he will get a free pass though, just one more double standard I guess.
My fellow democrats – get ready for four more years of republican rule and for that we can thank the media and the followers not smart enough to have looked at all the candidates and made an informed choice.

Posted by: JHH | February 18, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

Obama,
For your much speaking and comments on words, I just want to know .. Where’s the beef?

Posted by: alex | February 18, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

Plagiarism, really? Aren’t all of the candidates speeches written by speech writers? Half of what you hear the candidates say are not their words, rather other peoples words. I am not an Obama fan, especially not a Clinton fan. Let’s stay true to issues at hand.

Posted by: JW | February 18, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

How about the words Obama “borrowed” from Martin Luther King and Franklin Roosevelt? But does it really matter? Most political speeches are the same old recycled BS anyway.

Posted by: rmberryman | February 18, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

Who cares?!!! With the issues at stake for our country and the world, focus on real issues!

Posted by: zpolitics | February 18, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

I too find it funny how now all candidates, Democrat and Republican, are picking up the “Change” banner that Senator Obama started, yet, those same individuals practices and policies are a key point in to what “CHANGE” is about.

Posted by: Texan | February 18, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

Good Hight Hillary its bed time, sweet dreams. Lights out now, tell your supporters they can go home now.

Posted by: Walter | February 18, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

It’s ok for him to use someone else’s words because he’s black. If another candidate plagiarized, they would be ridiculed to no end. I guess the whole world copies Obama’s words when we say change and yes we can. What a joke he is.”Yes we can” use your words Obama get over it!

Posted by: laur | February 18, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

Thom You are very correct! I am not American, but seeing all what is going on news and mails, i see that all this ‘sharp shooting’ that is goin on aimed at certain individuals, by deviously minded people, just shows to what extent ‘some people’ will go to get to the White House!
Without degrading anyone or people, look at the people who each campaign is winning; Obama – educated (basically); Clinton – Non educated (basically as well). Who are the future? those > 50 or < 50?
Youth should be conscious of what they wish for themselves. Who looks at tommorrow? Who is getting to the younger generation? The truth is this, the person, who can appeal to, win the trust of and carry along the younger generation can send the US to a level better than where it has been.
All i will say for now is I hope the person, who wants the people of the United States of America, to move forward and continue being ahead wins the candidacy, without 'pointing out' or 'sharp shooting'!

Posted by: Lantix | February 18, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

Plagiarism is a crime in USA.

Posted by: Chris | February 18, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

Apparently Hillary is very concerned with the ISSUES!!!
Obama’08

Posted by: Jackie | February 18, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

The Clinton campaign makes me sick with these stupid trash attacks. They need to back off and let the party and this country move forward. I once admired the Clintons and I voted for Bill twice but now I am starting to despise them.

Posted by: Bob, DC | February 18, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

You Clinton people are a sad lot.
Your girl has plagiarized a number of people (including Newt Gingrich) in her career — and don’t kid yourselves for a moment that there isn’t a small army of people digging them all up as I write!
You see the nomination slipping away, and you react with anger, viciousness and self-destruction that would make Karl Rove and Lee Atwater proud.
You live in a glass house, yet continue to insist upon throwing stones at Obama.
You really should dig yourselves.

Posted by: miggy zarley | February 18, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

Did these two comments really start with Patrick? Seems to me that other famous Americans used these words long, long ago. Obama is going to start showing his true stripes, get ready. For those of you who think this a non-issue, grow-up. You think this is the only thing the media could nail him on if they only wanted to. When I think of Obama, I think…cults, Oprah, rhetoric and economic, healthcare and other issues that don’t begin to help the United States out.

Posted by: Kris | February 18, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

From The New Republic (today):
She talked about goals “I hope will bring our country together,” a la Barack Obama.
In response to a question about excessive partisanship, she talked about how she’s not running to be president of the states that voted for Democrats, she’s running to be president of the United States. This closely resembles Obama’s “I don’t want to pit red America against blue America. I want to be the President of the United States of America.”
She said she didn’t want to be part of the first generation of Americans that didn’t leave the country better off than when they inherited it, which recalls John Edwards’s line about how we don’t want to be the first generation of Americans whose children do worse in life than they did.
She talked about how, if video stores can keep track of their tapes and DVDs, surely we can keep track of people here on visas, many of whom overstay them and become illegal immigrants. I’ve heard Edwards make the same point, except he explicitly cites Blockbuster.
She argued that our young men and women in Iraq are doing everything we ask of them; it’s the Bush administration and the Iraqi government who are letting them down. Edwards has argued that our soldiers have done everything we’ve asked of them; it’s our government that’s letting them down.
Finally, she made the point that opposing comprehensive immigration reform is tantamount to supporting amnesty, because it allows the present situation to continue. I’ve heard John McCain make the same point. (At least I think it was him–it’s possible that it was some other non-Hillary candidate.)

Posted by: Prantha | February 18, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

This tit-for-tat isn’t going to get anyone that is out of work a job – it’s not going to reduce the cost of skyrocketing health insurance (my deductible went from $200 to $2300 this year) and isn’t going to save a soldier’s life.
But hat’s off to ABC News for the most asinine non-story of the election cycle – and kudos to the desperate Clinton camp for fanning the flames. America: Catch the Feeling!

Posted by: Frank | February 18, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

BREAKING: The Obama campaign is now distributing a video to the media that shows Hillary giving a speech where she uses the phrase “Fired up and ready to go”, clearly plagiarizing Barack Obama.

Posted by: Bob, DC | February 18, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

Kris why are you so angry? Do you hate Obama or what?

Posted by: Marcia | February 18, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

Words from a speech given two years ago are in the “public domain.” They can be used without a gratuitous citation; it happens ALL THE TIME. Get used to it! This just shows how desperate and petty the Clintons can be to hang on to any little thread of power to lash out at others. NO WAY!will it sell with the American people. Thinking people are fed up to the max with her pettiness and crocidile tears. GO OBAMA!

Posted by: Justinteim | February 18, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

Obama is just blank slate – a branded candidate open to the projection of the masses by Axelrod.
The second coming of RFK? The second coming of MLK? The second coming of Jesus? The second coming of Patrick Duval?
Don’t drink the Kool-AID. We have serious economic and foreign policy issues. We can’t afford a vacation to the Island of Hope.
Vote for Hilliary Clinton. If we can’t get Hillary in vote McCain.

Posted by: Carol | February 18, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

ATTENTION HILLARY LOVERS:
The superdelegates are watching. I suspect they do not like the Hillary campaign trashing the probable Dem nominee. She better be careful or they may pull the plug on her even before she has a chance on March 4th.

Posted by: Bob, DC | February 18, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

you know when we plagiarize in school we get expelled. what can example Obama is setting for the youth. we need a president with substance not just meaningless words. Hilary 08!

Posted by: mj | February 18, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

Hillary RODHAM Clinton, is a total throw back .
The Clinton, footstomping wont stop on the campaign trail. She will really cry when McCain
wins the presidency if SHE is nominated.

Posted by: scvlptr | February 18, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

Thank you, Ohio, for posting the truth. The link you provided should finally shut the Clinton hounds up — for awhile.
JEEEEEEEZ the Clintons are desperate!

Posted by: henry | February 18, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

“Change” is simply a buzzword, and no one is really defining it, especially Obama, for whom it is merely a slogan. Since all the other candidates are so weak, it is highly likely that Obama will be our next President; he’s in the right place at the right time. We will probably learn in the next couple of years if charisma is all it takes to be President. Maybe it is. Behind-the-scenes “advisers” run things anyway; it’s been that way for decades.

Posted by: rmberryman | February 18, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Obama says he “usually gives credit when quoting people or using ideas, but he insisted that he is friends with Patrick.” Wow that’s something remarkable. Let’s go back and check the Harvard Law View articles written by Obama — I wonder if he borrowed a few paragraphs from his friends. And so it begs the question, can you really be plagarizing when in fact you are not writing the speeches? And therefore is the words that inspire Obamaniacs or the VOICE? I wonder.

Posted by: Cybermom75 | February 18, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Obama has been running a commercial in the Dallas area about healthcare reform which he ends by saying
“In order to fix healthcare we have to fix Washington first”
Now just how does he plan to “fix” Washington?
Obama is full of hot air!

Posted by: Betty | February 18, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Their was majesty in the words of JFK, MLK, Lincoln, Jefferson etc. They announced a new day for America.They chose their words to express their hopes and dreams for America. These words were their truth upon the landscape of American history
It is the originality of these words that have contributed to that majesty and that is why these words have stood the test of time.
Sen Obama has consistently presented us with speeches that are but the joining together of pieces of the best from all these men. That is why I have never been captivateded by his speeches he gave us nothing new. He simply identified beloved figures in our history and moulded himself and his words on them.
His speeches are eloquent and so they should be he learn’t from the best.
True inspiration springs from your own truths that is the difference between Sen Obama and these great leaders.
The Patrick situation is just further proof Sen Obama will borrow whatever he thinks will appeal to the masses.
I am not pro Hillary but I don’t get inpired by pale imitations either. I could just read the book.

Posted by: The difference is.... | February 18, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

No history making for this gullable society!
The media wins again . Good spinning CLINTONS!

Posted by: scvlptr | February 18, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

HOW CAN HE SAY THIS IS NOT A BIG DEAL!!!! I am a teacher/health professional. The issue is he misled people to think that these were his own words. Plagiarism involves taking someone elses work and making it appear as though it were your own.
Who cares it is his so-called friend. I don’t let students use their friends work!!!!

Posted by: Maria | February 18, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

I agree , you can’t lead a country through hope. Obama needs to stop preaching to his brothers and sisters. He’s a fake, there is nothing original about this man. He needs to go back to Illinois and come back in 10 years when he knows what he is actually doing.

Posted by: toni | February 18, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

This is to Mine Sweeper stating Obama authored 800 some bills. (There is lot of places in the internet that quote the same – but no link to where the information was compiled)
Ok where did you get the information. I went to the official US senate web site did not find that. What was very revealing was how many times Obama did not vote.
If some one has a back bone you either vote yes or no. You do not sit on the fence thinking this is going come and bite me later.
People use your heads. Many republicans want Obama -as they know McCain can easily beat him

Posted by: Hector | February 18, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm

Hope used to spring eternal, now it just springs….BOING!!!!!! Think I will just spring on over to the SIN network and watch WOLFIE HOWL!!!!

Posted by: daddyblue | February 18, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

I am fed up with Obama, please shut up already.

Posted by: Pat | February 18, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

I thought all along that those were his own words, all his poetic and inspiring speeches.

Posted by: number8th | February 18, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

Obama just announced he will deliver his “I Have a Dream Speech” on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial right after he gives his Address at Gettysburg. Tomorrow he says he’s going to write the Declaration of Independence.

Posted by: LAGuy | February 18, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

Toni obviously you are sounding pretty hopeless yourself.
BUSH1/Clinton1
BUSH2/ Clinton2 NO WAY
WE BELIEVE OBAMA

Posted by: scvlptr | February 18, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

Does Hillary think we’ve all forgotten how she totally refused to credit Barbara Feinman, the ghostwriter of “It Takes a Village”? Even Simon & Schuster admitted that Feinman was paid $120,000 to write it. But on her promo tour Hillary said, “I actually wrote the book…I had to write my own book because I wanted to stand by every word.” Feinman complained publicly over the lack of acknowledgment. THAT’S plagiarism, Hillary, and LYING too!

Posted by: Lou in Des Moines | February 18, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

Hillary is not a NEW YORKER
She is a FAKE

Posted by: scvlptr | February 18, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

Who cares! This is so freakin petty! This is exactly the kind of stupid crap that will get us 4 more years of the republicans! I hope Barack just let this go and move on with his message. Don’t fall for her pettyness!

Posted by: Renee | February 18, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

Of course this is going to get blown out of proportion, just like the Rezko issue. People look for any chink in his armor that they can find, legitimate or not. And the Clinton campaign should be ashamed; this whole election, they’ve done nothing but release press reports and dummy up videos to paint other candidates as not genuine, when that’s all their campaign has been from the beginning. Obama never makes the first strike on these things. It’s always Clinton. And it’s always disappointing. I was a big fan of the Clinton presidency and supported both Bill and Hillary, but their dirty tactics have left me in disbelief. To hell with the Clinton’s and their whole damned political machine.

Posted by: ChristianH | February 18, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

Dukakis campaign already did this against Biden. Interesting – Theresa Vilmain (Clinton’s Wisconsin manager)was the Dukaki campaign manager, wasn’t she? Howard Wolfson worked with John Sasso (who got fired for the dirty trick)in Kerry’s campaign… Coooooo-incidence? Did Wolfson plagiarize Sasson and Vilmain?

Posted by: Ka | February 18, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

The saddest part is that most American’s still think it matters who wins the Presidency. They have NO IDEA that the American Empire is declining rapidly, and committing economic, educational, and cultural suicide. America is doomed, and the sheeple haven’t a clue.

Posted by: jjarden | February 18, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

DMK, I am not a BOT who is Barry? as in GOLDWATER I suppose?

Posted by: scvlptr | February 18, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

Come on guys! Let’s give Hussien Obama a break. He is only stealing from his friend’s speech! What is the big deal? Let’s get back to discussion of the real issues where he really sucks at.

Posted by: John | February 18, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

Maybe she can have a position on Obama’s cabinet. As Secretary of Health and Human Services. YES SHE CAN!

Posted by: Marcia | February 18, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

Did you all realize that in EVERY PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION SINCE 1980 — 28 years ago — the name “Bush” or “Clinton” (or both) has appeared on the ballot? If you’re in your mid-to-late forties or younger, you’ve NEVER EVEN SEEN a presidential ballot without a Bush or Clinton on it!!!
TWENTY-EIGHT FRICKIN’ YEARS! More than a generation!
That is NOT democracy. That is dynastic monarchy.

Posted by: henry | February 18, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

Its crazy how Obama takes someone elses speech and uses it word for word and then has the audacity to blame Clinton for plagiarizing. This guy is a complete joke and will get absolutely torn apart in November!

Posted by: Joe | February 18, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

You mean the “MAIN MAN” who promises to lead America to the PROMISED LAND needs to borrow a speech. LOL. Oh My Gosh! The Speech is all he had –promising America CHANGE. WHAT Kind of Change is America going to get if he isn’t using his own words? What is he going to do? All he had was words at first, so now what does he have? NOTHING!!!

Posted by: CHJ | February 18, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

Obama is like Vanilla Ice and the Queen song “under pressure”. Queens went de-de-de-de-da-do-da Ice’s went de-de-de-de-da-do–da. Vanilla Ice later said the change is subtle, their is an extended pause before the last da.

Posted by: JD | February 18, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

Educate me please. When I say, “bring it on”, am I plagiarizing? If I say, “show me the money”, am I plagiarizing? I thought plagiarism is an idea in one sentence or more. Will he get away again? If I plagiarized, can I say it’s no big deal? It’s seem like it’s his pattern to just say it’s no big deal. Smoking pot- no big deal, plagiarism- no big deal,Retzko- no big deal, reciting plege of allegiance- no big deal, US flag pin- no big deal.
How can he just wash his hands and get no slap for it, whereas others get pounded for every everything even lose their livelihood for doing so.

Posted by: number8th | February 18, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

I have to place the following in quotation because I don’t want some idiot accusing me of writing this without giving credit…
“1n 2006, Gov. Patrick won due to this inspirational message of hope – Yes, we can!
After a year and CHANGE the draperies for $12,000, people of Massachusetts shouted back No, we can’t!!!
That’s one of the reasons why Obama lost in Massachusetts. People already knew what type of CHANGE he is talking about.
Posted by: Joshua | Feb 18, 2008 2:23:32 PM”
**************
Being an independent voter, I am embarrassed in the way the comments are being written. Most of them seem to be boring Republican sound bits, since the only candidate they have is a 71 year old Geratol junky. Granted McCaine is a good politician but they should make sure he has a good young running mate.
After reading the Headlines regarding Obamas dilemma on plagiarism, I am astonished as to the desperate tactics the Clintons are using to discredit their contender. Now every politician(both Republican and Democrat) will be analyzed under a microscope for copying work written by others.
As for the comment that I quoted above. Gov. Patrick has done more positive things to the Commonwealth of Massachusetts in the past 6 months that Romney did in the last 4 years! The only good thing Romney did while running for president and failing was to use his personal fortune and not taxpayers.

Posted by: mike | February 18, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

you have to be kidding me Joe, where did you see that he copied the entire speech word for word? Please get a grip, there were three separate phrases. You Hillary folks must be really at the end of your rope. Please believe that the vast majority of intelligent Americans will see this as the insignificant. I am a life long Democrat, but I and many others like me, will cast our first ever vote for a Republican if Hillary wins the nomination. I am sure that there are many in Hillary’s camp who say they will do the same thing is Barak wins the nomination, so the bottom line is that it looks like McCain will be the next to live in the White House.

Posted by: Shawn | February 18, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

Maybe she can have a position on Obama’s cabinet. As Secretary of Health and Human Services. OH YES SHE CAN!

Posted by: Marcia | February 18, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

Freedoms enemies are the 5% that control the other
85% , I am 10% who know, …who the hell is Barry?
OBAMA is GRASS ROOTS, he is from the PEOPLE!
not a CORPORATE MACHINE.

Posted by: scvlptr | February 18, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

Mr I will get rid of old Washington is taking inspiration and advice from Governor Patrick.
Would that be the same Deval Patrick who was appointed by President Clinton (aka old Washington)in 1994 to the post of assistant attorney general for Civil Rights.
Gee between Patrick and Kennedy he is creating a veritable gulf between him and old Washington NOT.
More just words hey Barack

Posted by: just words | February 18, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

ABC – Please re-check the two quotes Obama
used in his speeches that were attributed to a former Massachusetts governor. i believe the first quote originated with the Declaration of Independence and the second quote originated with John Kennedy.

Posted by: David Newhof | February 18, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

Who is Barack Obama? Very interesting and something that should beconsidered in your choice. This is very scary to think of what lies ahead of us here in our own United States. It is factual.Check for yourself. Who is Barack Obama? Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a whiteATHEIST from Wichita, Kansas. Obama’s parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two years old,his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya .His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.? When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocate to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta . He also spent two years in a Catholic school. Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, “He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.” Obama’s political handlers are attempting to make it appear that he is not a radical. Obama’s introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce,and never again had any direct influence over his son’s education. Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama’s mother,Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta . Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States , Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran. Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches. Let us all remain alert concerning Obama’s expected presidential candidacy. The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level – through the President of the United States , one of their own!!!!

Posted by: John | February 18, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

Re: Joshua Thanks for educating me of what is going on in Massachusetts from the man Obama quoted.
I can’t believe the media let it continue this long with the ‘YES We Can’, slogan, when truthfully, it’s ‘No they Can’t’.
WAKE UP AMERICA. Read between the lines. Obama is not the one to be President. Wake Up! Do the Right thing. WAKE UP. (Oops, I had better name the source of this…Quote taken from Spike Lee Do the Right Thing)

Posted by: CHJ | February 18, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

For the love of Oprah. Where is the queen when we need her? Didn’t she say “I am insulted but more importantly I am upset that he lied to the listeners”. Where these just words?

Posted by: jim | February 18, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

WHAT HAPPENED TO OBAMA’S GOOD RHETORIC SKILLS. DID HE RUN OUT OF WORDS THIS TIME TO USE AND USED SOMEONE ELSE’S INSTEAD? THAT’S ASHAME!! BAD EXAMPLE FOR OUR KIDS IN SCHOOL. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!! HE SHOULD AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGED THE PERSON WHOM HE BORROWED IT FROM.

Posted by: TOO Independent | February 18, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

This really sounds like desperation in the Hillary Camp. She should be more worried about her speeches that are so uninspiring.

Posted by: lisa | February 18, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

Am I the only one who recognizes that “We hold these truths to be self-evident” comes from our Declaration of Independence? Or that Franklin Roosevelt originated “We have nothing to fear but fear itself”?
I’d quote yet someone else (whose name I don’t recall, so sorry, can’t attribute it): “If we don’t learn from the past, the past will repeat itself.” Or something along that line.
In my opinion, none of the major candidates in either party is the answer to our problems, so I choose to follow the addage “Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t know.”

Posted by: L. A. Graham | February 18, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

“The real issue is not just the words and the stark similarity between campaigns, it’s how Deval Patrick’s doing in his first term as Massachussetts’ governor. His first 100 days were a nightmare. So are we to believe that experience doesn’t count? All one need do is the usual query on any search engine. He was a charismatic, inspiring orator promising change, just check out the controversies that have plagued his first year. It certainly is food for thought. If this had been something the media found about Hillary, they’d be all over it like a cheap suit.
Posted by: lapalabra | Feb 18, 2008 4:38:55 PM”
You had better get more educated and read more reliable sources on the internet. I live in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts and Gov. Patrick
has done more positive things for the Commonwealth than Romney did for the past four years! The present Gov. has to pick up the mess that was left by Romney. The health care system that was put through with his signature is a mess, leaving us businessmen holding the bag.

Posted by: Mike | February 18, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

Incredible what I am reading. If Obama does anything incorrect its Hillary’s fault and not only that, everything that the Clinton’s do or say is a lie, is manufactured against Obama, is a deliberate attempt to discredit him, but anything the obama supporters have to say about Hillary should be taken at face value huh?
What is happening here? I thought most people could at least have some objectivity regarding politics. But the bashing of Hillary Clinton and then using Bill Clinton’s trangressions is sounding like a last stand ditch for the obama supporters.
How divided the Democrats have become. What is of concern, is wait until the Republicans get started on obama and Clinton as well – who are you going to blame then – Hillary?

Posted by: Lou | February 18, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

It’s sad to say but Obama is talking like a preacher, a gospel preacher, like the ones you see on the religious TV channels..only he’s not saying much. He may think he is like Martin Luther King, but he ain’t no Martin Luther King. Dr. King was in many ways a humble man who gave terrific speeches and you knew they came from his heart. Obama’s comes from his money bag of PAC’s that he represents. They have bought and paid for this guy. He wants to give all the illegal aliens amnesty. This will cause the U.S. to go into a Depression of the likes of the 1929-1930′s. What does Obama have to say about Mexico wanting to make California part of Mexico because of some so called treaty back in the 1880′s (or some such date-I watched this on TV news the other night). How are we going to cead California to Mexico? Obama isn’t talking about how he wants the boarders open and to give the adult children of illegal aliens a free college education. or why he wants illegals to have a driver’s license. If anyone reading this can tell me what insurance company is going to cover an illegal alien’s auto/truck, I would like to know who. Our health insurance doesn’t cover us if we go to a foreign country on vacation, so why are we giving Medicaid to illegals, what ever country they come from??? Obama isn’t talking about all the companys closing, the high cost of gasoline, the high cost of medication. He has NOT told us what he would do about anything. Of course, he only cannot do much except like George Bush, get us into another war with another country. He says he will get us out of Iraq, he can’t do that on his own and neither can any other candidate. I’m sick of them all. I am sick of the media always talking about it..For God’s sake, can’t these elections have a time limit of 6 months, whoever wants to run, have there name on the ballot and skip these politican conventions, they are just scaming each other anyway, and the American public are paying the price. Our country is in deep dodo and non of these candidates care about us, only that they and there group wins, meanwhile, the American citizens loose again.

Posted by: DAR | February 18, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

HUSSIEN Obama! Nuff said!
“…ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran. Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches… “

Posted by: John | February 18, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

Hillary Clinton, “We are fired up and ready to go and we know America is ready for change.” Hypocrites…

Posted by: JT | February 18, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

I would hope the race card, the woman card would not matter. If the Democrats throw it around more than they are now, I think they will alienate moderate and independent voters of all races, sex and creed come November.
Are you telling me that Hillary or any politician for matter has not used words suggested during a meeting with their advisors in a speech? I hardly doubt it. Show us books and papers to show a pattern, then its a different story.
Hillary has a long dark vindicative trail of tears which would be a most unpleasant change. As a registered republican that is not happy with the party, Obama has shown me why he deserves my vote. She has not, but only reminded me of why I was so glad to see the Clintonista out of the White House. If she is the nominee, McCain is VERY attractive and most likely would get my vote.

Posted by: scott jeffries | February 18, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

O.K. just for one slogan we are broadcasting that President Obama has stolen someone else’s words.
How many broadcast have we seen that, that Damn Hillary, or for that matter that Damn
McCain has used, or for that matter, stolen quotes from President Obama. Quotes or no Quotes it is still not strong enough for me to trust those to incompetent crooks, and give either of them my vote.
Are We truly that stupid enough to trust a Puppet or for that matter someone who lost the war they served in only to have voted for another war that cost so many American lives and for that matter illegal .
This is just another tactic by that damn Bill Clinton to get a foot in the White House to sodomize another intern.
He must take us for a complete idiot.
Hillary can’t control her man….What makes you think she can be commander and chief.
You guy’s who suck up this these accusations are just about as stupid as the paper that writes it , or the people who broadcast it.
OBAMA ALL THE WAY!!!!!

Posted by: stacy | February 18, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

Wow!!!
What a stupid thing she did!!!!
Now all over the Internet and even on the nightly news showing all she plagiarize. What a dumb and stupid move.
Their laughing at her all over the news.
Very dumb Hillary.

Posted by: JerryZ | February 18, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

Coming down on Obama for words used in a speech is like coming down on a country song for sounding country. With the pace in the bid for the nomination exceeding the speed of light, each candidate – whether it’s Hillary or McCain or Obama deserves some slack. No one is perfect and Hillary will be the first to tell you that. About Bill. To Hillary, Hillary is perfect. Obama on the other hand admits he “will make mistakes” and has determined NOT to surround him with “YES MEN” as our current “leader” has. OBAMA 2008! NOW MORE THAN EVER!

Posted by: Eric | February 18, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

It is getting over, thats why this stuff is coming up. The clintons have already started giving up in texas cos of the demography that favors obama. It is now evident that obama will get more delegates in texas.
the clintons are in hot soup trying to squeeze some bad skeletons from the obama’s bedroom but couldnt find any but instead stole his jewelries by bringing up this speech from obamas friend, supporter and strategist.
Just as bill clinton will say, give me a break all theses are fairy tales are begining to hurt them!
the obama bandwagon is wide open, it is better to enter earlier than when you(hillary supporters) will be totally humiliated. by then u will start covering ur faces. i guess 11:55pm is the deadline to avoid switching disgrace.
the time has started ticking tik tak tik tak tik tak….

Posted by: itsover | February 18, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

To me it’s not the fact that Obama’s speeches are a cut and paste of every speech out there, it’s the fact that he creates scenario’s to justify using a speech. He claims people say something about him, not usually true, in order to make the speech with zingers. No one, not on the Dems or Reps side has said; Words don’t matter. Nor has anyone called him a ; Hope Monger. He makes things up to create an appearance of victimization in order to use someone else’s speech to attack. That’s disengenuous and makes you wonder if the guy has a philosophy of his own where he could just wing it and be inspirational. For example; It’s not that he DIDN’T vote for the war, it’s that he DIDN’T have that option because he was not a United States Senator. He certainly has no ground for which to judge Hillary Clinton who was at Ground Zero due to 9/11. Her experience regarding her vote is on a completely different plain from the Ill. Senator’s “talk.”

Posted by: irma | February 18, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

I think we all realize Clinton’s main attack point was not plagiarism but an attempt to box him in as ‘the candidate of rhetoric’ – along with their concurrent “creepy and Messianic” meme.
I would remind her of what the Milwauke Journal-Sentinel said when they endorsed Obama:
“The Obama campaign has been derisively and incorrectly described as more rock tour than political campaign and his supporters as more starry-eyed groupies than thoughtful voters. If detractors in either party want to continue characterizing the Obama campaign this way, they will have seriously underestimated both the electorate’s hunger for meaningful change in how the nation is governed and the candidate himself. In an interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Editorial Board on Wednesday, the first-term senator proved himself adept at detail and vision. They are not mutually exclusive.

Posted by: om J | February 18, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

Shhh, don’t call him a plagiarist or sexist, … He’ll pull out the race card again and call you a racist…

Posted by: WakeUpPeople | February 18, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

in the Bible it states look at the plank in your eye, before you complain about someone else. that is my paraphrase of the passage. it seems the bill and hillary camp forgot about the times she used others language in her speeches especially bill. now, you can go online and check how much her speeches are her own. again, let’s look at the record of all candidates. i am still waiting on hillary supporters to explain how she plans to restructure health care when she is funded by medical lobbyists. her voting records falls right in step with the lobbyists’ agenda. well, hillary and bill supporters, can you answer this question? mccain isn’t any better but at least he is honest. hill and bill think we are all stupid and that is why she is going to lose.

Posted by: greenlee2 | February 18, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

HEY FOLKS!!! It makes NO Difference WHO becomes President!!! It Does NOT Matter! Most American’s do not realize that the country was in a decline under Clinton (even though the Stock Market was artifically booming), under Bush 1, under Reagan (who cut taxes and deficit spent like a wild man on the military pushing us further in Debt), and under Ford & Carter. The country has been on a downward trajectory since the 70′s after the repeal of Bretton Woods when we became a country based on “Finance-Capitalism” and a “Service & Consumption Economy” instead of one based on “Production and exports.” Earlier, the country’s educational curriculum also changed from one based on a “Classical education” to mere “Training” for the sole purpose of “economics” and the pursuit of a “Job.” America has been falling ever since, and is doomed, but the people do not know it due to lack of education and awareness.

Posted by: jjarden | February 18, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

Obama…By far is the lesser of 3 EVILS!!!

Posted by: stacy | February 18, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

Does no one have fact-checkers anymore? Patrick Deval was not the first person to say “We have nothing to fear but fear itself.” Franklin D. Roosevelt is! Obama using that phrase was no more plagiarism than his quote from Matin Luther King, Jr. or the Constitution.

Posted by: Maggie | February 18, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

This tempest in a teapot concerning plagiarism is laughable. “We hold these truths to be self-evident..” can be found in the Declaration of Independence. “…we have is fear itself.” was spoken by Franklin Roosevelt. Both quotes are in the public domain. It would be nice if Clinton and Obama had known this already.

Posted by: GeeVee | February 18, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

Irma wrote, “…For example; It’s not that he DIDN’T vote for the war, it’s that he DIDN’T have that option because he was not a United States Senator. He certainly has no ground for which to judge Hillary Clinton who was at Ground Zero due to 9/11. Her experience regarding her vote is on a completely different plain from the Ill. Senator’s “talk.”
Posted by: irma | Feb 18, 2008 7:10:00 PM
Irma. You are absolutely correct. Obama was not a U.S. Senator at the time the vore for the war was cast. The media needs to use this against him!
WAKE UP AMERICA!

Posted by: CHJ | February 18, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

WakeUpPeople – the race card has been played since this election started. the race baiting is just beginning and it is going to get nasty. the clintons will do all of the dirty work for the republicans. let’s be honest – the majority of white people are not going to vote for b/c he is black. i wish people would be honest and say it. even this article is race baiting, racism drives every interaction in america. when our we as white people going to admit it.

Posted by: greeenlee2 | February 18, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

Can anyone please tell me ANYTHING that Hillary has really done for us? ANYTHING?
It says something when you have to resort to complaining about your opponents campaign speeches….
Who cares if he “borrowed” or “plagarized” or whatever you want to call it. The fact is, he is inspiring in a why she is not.

Posted by: Don | February 18, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

I wonder what Obama’s third book will be – Gone With the Wind?

Posted by: jim | February 18, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

This is a non-issue. If Hillary wins the nomination I am voting for McCain.

Posted by: Vixen | February 18, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

Students around the world will be very interested to know that they have not committed plagiarism if the original authors give them permission to reproduce their work without attribution!

Posted by: Daniela | February 18, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

Riffing? I guess.
BTW: Audacity of Hope is a phrase that Obama’s minister first used.
Obama knows a good riff when he hears it. ;>)

Posted by: OhioNative | February 18, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

Franklin Delano Roosevelt in his first inaugural address said: “Only thing we have to fear is fear itself.”

Posted by: efredb | February 18, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

Racist Democrats will Vote for Hillary.

Posted by: Tim | February 18, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

If we want to be exact about the comments, Dr. Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. used those exact words in his “I have a Dream” Speech in Washinton DC in 1963. “We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal” is a direct quote from the Declaration of Independence. Dr. King used the this quote to affirm what our Founding Father”s affirmed in God”s creation of man “that we are equal.” Rev. Ken

Posted by: Rev. Ken | February 18, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

American politics is fast becoming ridiculous, idiotic. Reporters peddle gossips as news. The attacks from the Clintons are very infantile, very stupid and shameful. Obama has written bestsellers and is recognized all over the world as a great orator and speech writer. It’s shameful to know that petty and small minded people like the Clitons ever ruled America. The Clinton campaign has gone wild like a mad dog. Such degrading attacks on rivals bring total shame on the whole of America. One hardly finds well written articles of class in American Newspapers. They quickly write gossips and dish them out to the unthinking mob who quickly start fighting over non-issues. The Clintons are very divisive. Let them talk to the American people about their program and stop these empty, senseless and absurd attacks. With all their baggages and accumulated scandals of cosmic proportion Obama has refused to attack them. A young woman here now calls Hilary Clinto a witch because of these newspaper reports of attacks everyday: Clinton attacks Obama; Clinton sharpens attacks; Clinton fires at Obama etc. Any psychiatrist around?

Posted by: logos | February 18, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

You know I was an African-American strong Hillary supporter and even contributed to her campaign. I supported her for the Dem nomination ven though I felt she was way too polarizing to help the Dem’s win the White House. Look at the polls, McCain tops her. Now, I am strong supporter of Obama. I would have supported Hillary had she won the nomination but now with her recent attack of calling Obama a plagarizer for using Deval Patrick’s comments about “just words” and being a great speaker with inspiring and moving speeches. Deval Patrick’s speech and rightfully so Barack Obama’s use of the lines that “We hold these truths to be self-evident that are men are created equal” or “I have a dream” or “All we have to fear is fear itself” are powerful examples of “just words” that inspired a nation are very appropriate for Senator Obama to have used. Deval Patrick is a supporter of Barack Obama and they are personal friends. Deval may have even advised him that he received similar attacks about being all talk and no action as Hillary alludes to in her attacks. But, the greater point is that. The Clintons will do anything and say anything to win a 3rd Clinton term. Hillary and Bill aren’t going to step aside for the good of the party EVER. It’s not their nature. The nature is to attack to win no matter at what cost but of course this is no diffrent than the Republicans. The Clintons are so desperate to win this nomination. But, what people forget that the Clintons actions cost Al Gore the election in 2000. If I was Barack Obama, I would remind the nation of the Monica Lewinsky scandal, the pardon’s scandal, and all the non-stop scandals of the Clinton which even cost the Dems to lose the Congress for years and sat back the center-left policies of the 1990′s. It cost us center-left judges as well which has hurt labor, middle class, women’s, reproduction, minorities rights because of the Clinton’s putting their own ambitions (or desires in President Clinton’s Lewinsky scandal)above the best thing for the Democratic Party which stands for the middle-class.
Senator Clinton’s desperate attacks such as Senator Obama avoiding debates and plagirisms attacks just turn my stomach towards the Clintons especially after their South Carolina race-card play. I was shocked that a man who won the presidency with strong African-American turn-out and who was proclaimed the first black president would under take such a divisive political ploy.
I’m very torn now. I would never vote for McCain, but I just might stay home in November too. And, many others might do the same if Hillary wins this nomination at a win by any means necessary approach.

Posted by: Arlando L. Cantley | February 18, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

I very much like how Senator Obama owned that he did it, said it was a mistake and appeared resolved not to do that again, minor though it was. When’s the last time we saw a Clinton or even a McCain do that? I DESPERATELY want a leader who learns from their mistakes since I already know the tremendous damage done by one who cannot learn from any mistakes.

Posted by: SE Croft | February 18, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

THE DESPERATION OF TEAM CLINTON IS ACTUALLY PRETTY FUNNY TO WATCH. I IMAGINE THE FLAILING AND WHEEZING WILL ONLY GET WORSE OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

Posted by: CYNICAL_ME | February 18, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

I doubt very much the Clinton camp started this. The GOP wants nothing more than the continued sniping between Clinton and Obama supporters for as long as possible so that some large block of democrats feel disenfranchised come November. If these message boards are any indication, they are getting what they want.

Posted by: Nicole | February 18, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

Finally! The press is reporting something negative about Obama. And it is a major mistake. The man (and I like him very much) is riding on 75% ideas and words, 25% experience–and now we see that his words are not always his own. He is not perfect. He is not JFK, he is not as qualified as Hillary. He has captured the spirit of “change” but how far will that go? It seems he’s all ready run out of words and he’s had to start borrowing those too. Give him 8 years as VP and then he’ll know more about his own brand of “change” and how to achieve it.

Posted by: Matt | February 18, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

It’s not important that Obama has quoted famous people from the past such as MLK, everyone is familiar with his “I have a dream speech” but what we want to know is; what is your dream for America? What do you actually want to do to inspire Americans, we all probably want change but what kind of change?I am always inspired by history but I am concerned about the future.

Posted by: BTL musings | February 18, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

Sad. I guess, because speaking is Obama’s best asset, the Clinton Campaign has to attack his speeches, but it sure looks and sound desperate.

Posted by: John | February 18, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

Me, my family, are finished with Barack Obama. No more. He get away with one atrocity after another.
It’s time for America to pay attention to this man. He is no honest.

Posted by: Carmen Vasquez | February 18, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

This is the most stupid thing to report on. It’s kind of like the pot calling the kettle black. Clinton has been stealing Obama’s lines for weeks. Go look at her web site ……..LOL……even her supporters are using Obama Lines.
THIS just goes to show how small the Clinton’s are.

Posted by: James Brown | February 18, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

if you want to search sth online, you can google it;
if you want copy&paste sth, you can obama it.

Posted by: cool | February 18, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

America doesn’t deserve Barack to be its President. You want Hillary — take her!

Posted by: Brad | February 18, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

And why can’t the Clinton Supporters find something of more substance to talk about….
You are absolutely desperate….You are looking for anything that might make you feel good…..
Well the world has bigger problems…..
You Clinton Supporters are so desperate for anything for absolutely anything…..
I am sorry your candidate doesn’t inspire anyone….

Posted by: justwaitandsee | February 18, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

She inspires me to vote republican…

Posted by: Don | February 18, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

“But the Illinois senator then turned his focus on Sen. Hillary Clinton, suggesting the New York senator uses his words without his approval. ”
If it fits on a bumper sticker, it’s a slogan, not a speech. Go Hillary!

Posted by: whatever | February 18, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

“But the Illinois senator then turned his focus on Sen. Hillary Clinton, suggesting the New York senator uses his words without his approval. ”
If it fits on a bumper sticker, it’s a slogan, not a speech. Go Hillary!

Posted by: whatever | February 18, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

“For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country”

Posted by: M. Obama | February 18, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

We need a president, not a preacher.

Posted by: HRV | February 18, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

If I plagiarize on a paper – I fail. It’s that simple folks. Obama should apologize and drop out of the race. Its that simple folks.
What kind of example is he trying to set. Hope? I don’t think we’ll have much hope if kids are taught to rip off others. Change? Maybe he should focus on coming up with his own stuff to change instead of taking the Mass. Governor’s ideas. At least Hillary seems to come up with her own stuff.
The only thing Obama had going for him was his speaking skills, now we his lovely words weren’t actually his own…..

Posted by: Sabrina Kness | February 18, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

So she’s being using Obama’s words and no one says a word. How fair is that? Clearly the Clinton campain has nothing to offer. Instead they go after Obama’s credibility. Haha!!! This is right out of Rove’s play book. This time it will not work. No wonder nobody listens to them.

Posted by: JC | February 18, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

Why is it that the media makes a big deal out of nothing at all.

Posted by: stackman | February 18, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

greenlee2 – in total agreement about the boomers – they have had the us vs. them mentality since Vietnam and it’s poisoned everything from our political processes (as evidenced by this message board) and societal exchanges (as evidenced by the continuing segregation in every corner of the country). Obama does represent perhaps another way of doing things – but it’s hard not to fight fire with fire. I can’t see an end to the cycle and it’s disheartening.

Posted by: Nicole | February 18, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

I am not one bit surprised that Obama plagiarizes. He comes off as a puppet anyways. He lacks substance. I hope rest of America will wake up before we end up with another inept leader in the White House

Posted by: Stan | February 18, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

Don’t tell me words don’t matter.
I had a dream this afternoon that the brotherhood of mankind would become a reality.
Just words….
Ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country.
Just words….
We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal.
Just not my words….
Just not my speech….

Posted by: Charlie | February 18, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

What kind of news judgment turns this garbage into a “top story.” I’ll answer that: BAD news judgment.
This is swiftboating: Drop a verbal bomb to change the conversation and obtain some political advantage.
But it is so petty and so ridiculous, ABC News looks bad for making a big deal of it.
And the Clintonistas look terribly desperate.

Posted by: Cal | February 18, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

Few Words….WHo GIVES A Bleep. I guess noones getting mad at ole Tommy Jefferson from borrowing from Thomas Paine. Was his inspiring words to a new nation any less inspiring? GIVE ME A Break…So this is your attempts to derail Obama? Weak try, but thats to be expected of the desperate. (thats my quote)

Posted by: CHFinkel | February 18, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

Vote Obama or vote Republican! No more shmarmy Clintons ever! This accusation of plagiarism is typical of the Clintons: steal Obama’s lines (change, fired up and ready to go, etc. etc.), then point a hypocritical finger and Obama like a bunch of wretched lawyers. UUuuggh. I HATE the Clintons.

Posted by: EddyNewHope | February 18, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

I was hoping to read news – rather than garbage such as this. Come on abc

Posted by: Philip J Dennany | February 18, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

We Must Unite! Do we want a Republican in the White House For another 8Years! That’s The way it’s going…. Clinton/ Obama! Let’s All Get Along!

Posted by: astutevoter | February 18, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

I’m hoping Hillary has peaked too soon with her use of dirty tactics and that with the polls showing her back in front-runner status the last of the undecideds will swing Obama’s way.
I don’t think core Democrats appreciate that because the majority of us despise Bush because of his dismissiveness that we may despise Hillary just as much for the very same reason. There’s a solid group of about 40% of us in the middle who can’t stand either of them.
For those of us in the middle who relate to some parts of both parties but not all parts, the guiding force for our votes will likely be who can work across the aisle, it won’t be the war in Iraq after you factor in our distaste for entitlement programs (because the two issues are a push – entitlements in Iraq or entitlements at home . . . it’s a toss up)
Independents don’t like partisanship, which is why so many of us will be voting for McCain if Hillary gets the nomination. I don’t think core Democrats really understand that . . .

Posted by: Sam | February 18, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

more Clinton crap – what a bunch of nonsense, the point of Obama is that he draws an exponential increase in voter participation (finally the sleeping giant may have woken) and Clinton is the biggest Republican vote-getter ever – please please show us more of hers and McCain’s “experience” – while Congress is at lowest point in decades they just dig in for same old thing – they’ve squandered our inheritance and thanks heavens someone out there has the words!

Posted by: abql | February 18, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

It’s amazing how morals continue to decline. At one time plagiarism was considered a big deal. Now people say “it’s a non-issue” “no big deal” etc. Have to wonder what’s going to be no big deal 10 years from now – 20 years from now.

Posted by: jeff | February 18, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

A plagiarist as well as a hypocrite for not being the agent of change he claims to be. Nice choice.
Lets hope Democrats wake up and have more than a little buyers remorse. This man has done little except master how to deliver a speech – and the words aren’t even his own.

Posted by: Jamie | February 18, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

obama can’t make speeches for himself and he can’t come up with original policy either: in May 2007, Hillary introduced a comprehensive Gulf Coast Recovery Agenda. Three months later, in August, Sen. Obama released a very similar proposal.

Posted by: chris | February 18, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

TALKING ABOUT PLAGIARISM . . .
IT IS NOW CLEAR that the Clintons are prepared to do anything to win! Thus, they accuse Sen. Obama of PRAGIARISM while they use his speech lines frequently in this campaign. And Obama should know that the title of Hillary’s book IT TAKES A VILLAGE was pragiarized word for word from an African proverb. Why is the press not talking about that!

Posted by: udo sam | February 18, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

Yes, we can and will …. Plagiarize.

Posted by: Raj | February 18, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

It was a 46 MINUTE SPEECH.
We are talking about THREE SENTENCES.
THREE SENTENCES….out of a 46 MINUTE SPEECH!!!
Wow.
Clint-ROVIAN tactics, indeed.
Shameless.
Hope it doesn’t work.

Posted by: T.P. | February 18, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

All I have to say: If America is that shallow and it is. I pity us all.
Note: all of the above words came out of Webster’s dicionary. Happy now.
P.S.: Obama wins Wisconsin!!

Posted by: jvii | February 18, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

I’ve been telling everyone all along, Obama is a phony. Plagiarism is an attempt to STEAL ideas from others in an effort to make a PHONY look intelligent. Plagiarism is STEALING. In my opinion, Obama would FAIL a written test that was based on overall knowledge. I recommend, both candidates be given a written test based on overall subjects such as world history, government, math, English, Science. I recommend, the test be given to both candidates, at a United States University. The PHONY needs to be exposed. Do we need a PHONY in the White House? “NO WE DON’T.” “NO WE DON’T.” I also recommend, Donald Trump be the test supervisor.

Posted by: Pointman | February 18, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

Wow, some people like to throw out the race card. I am White, Latino, Greek and Native American. I could care less what color someone is. I do care about what is best for the country. I honestly do not think that Obama is it.
We are free to choose our vote. No one can say you voted wrong. That is a personal choice. If you feel Obama is the best then vote for him. I think Hillary or McCain is the best choice. I can’t vote for someone I don’t believe in.

Posted by: ontherocks99 | February 18, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

Poor poor Michelle Obama. One the “first day in her life” that she is proud to be an American it turns out that he husband is a plagiarist. What timing!

Posted by: jack | February 18, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

This is so silly as he has been using other people’s phrases for months now. What do you want? McCain and Hillary with more of the same as we have had for decades. Or Obama who is deffinatly going to shake things up, as they need to be. All politicians barrow phrases from other, Yes, republicans too. SO get off the stupid plagruism stuff and focus on who is going to make a real change.
VOTE OBAMA

Posted by: jackie | February 18, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

Has everyone forgotten that FDR stated, more than 60 years ago, “All we have to fear is fear itself”? It was not originally from Governor Patrick or Barack Obama.

Posted by: Jimmy | February 18, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

Because Udo Sam (to your questions), a proverb, be it African or Austrian, is NOT a speech…

Posted by: DMK | February 18, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

Oh, great! Here is one of Hillary’s “solutions” for America.
You can pretty much smell the Clintons’ desperation as they say anything, do anything to cling to power. And it doesn’t smell good.
Deval Patrick himself suggested these line to Obama to counter Hillary’s idiot assertion that words cannot inspire the American people to something greater than partisan bickering. Obama didn’t even know that Deval had used the same lines before in a speech. Plagarism? Do you walk around fact-checking every sentence you speak to make sure it’s purely original content? Give me a break. What a sleazy charade the Clintons are running.

Posted by: MG | February 18, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

Hillary is calling someone deceitful?! (LOL) Obama must have a very clean background if this is all the dirt they can stir up. It appears that the Clintons’ strategy is: If you can’t win honestly, try discrediting your opponent. To Hillary: This wins you no support. It simply makes you look desperate.

Posted by: Minister Zel | February 18, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

Jeff and Jamie, nobody’s saying plagiarism is not a big deal. What people are saying is that within the context (whereby many candidates share campaign strategists), and given who’s hurling the accusation (Hillary the mack-daddy of plagiarism and lack of original thought, who is refusing to take the stance that she herself does not use others’ words and speeches without giving them credit), it’s a non-issue.
Big difference. Not sure what your ‘angle’ is – you sound Republican. You don’t want to push the issue too far against Obama supporters if you want our votes against Hillary in a general election . . .

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 18, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

Obama’s not talking about ideas, he’s just linking together catchphrases and snazzy soundbites. No wonder the media and the sheeple love this guy. “Hope! Change! Yes We Can!”
Can what? Lead everyone around raptuously like some kind of Black Pied Piper? Do his zealots feel more virtuous because we haven’t had a black president yet, so it’s Obama’s “time”? Huh? Are the rest of us who don’t subscribe to white liberal guilt supposed to get all excited about his blackness? (Never mind that he might as easily claim to be white, given he’s a 50/50 mix.)
Meanwhile, independents are looking for the detailed policy positions underneath the Obama slogans. Not surprisingly, there’s not much there. A lot of promises, and not a lot of national experience by which to judge his promise-keeping record.
The guy only has four years in national office — he hasn’t even finished his Senate term yet! Talk about “audacity” — Obama has a lot of nerve, excellent elocution, and not much else. That’s no reason to vote for someone, even if he is the black Second Coming of JFK.

Posted by: J Cline | February 18, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

“enough of the dirty politics” – obama supporters shout……but neo-conservatives know no such thing if they want obama out….Hillary has beaten them once before and she can do it again…..she’ll destroy mccain in any debate, and withstand any anti-American campaign….she’s the smartest, the most prepared and best equipped choice for the fall….she’s a workaholic who doesn’t rest well when there’s work to be done for us all…..a vote for Senator Clinton is a vote for the future to be great…..let us do what we know is best for kids, rather than risk the unknown for their fate

Posted by: chris | February 18, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

Just to add what I forgot. Working class people (blue and white collar) still have NO RIGHTS in Illinois. No matter how hard and smart you work, no matter how great the results, the EMPLOYER can fire you just because he/she does not like you and you HAVE NO RECOURSE. The employer DOES NOT HAVE TO GIVE YOU A REASON. The employer can also give you a bad reference and prevent you from getting another job. Question: WHAT did Mr. OBAMA DO ABOUT IT, the civil rights lawyer? NOTHING. He probably wasn’t even aware of it.
I read all those blogs about the “Yes, we can”. For all those who have forgotten, in 1965 Sammy Davis, Jr. wrote an autobiography. It was called YES, I CAN: The Story of Sammy Davis, Jr. But Mr. Obama is no Sammy Davis.
As for Mrs. Clinton’s taxes, why should she disclose her income? Whatever she has, she earned it. Mr. Clinton came from a poor background but EXCELLED. He wazs a Rhodes scollar. Mrs. Clinton came from a middle class family. The Clinton’s didn’t even own a house until after his second term. The Obamas sit prettily in a 2 million dollar house (he got it for 300 hundred thousand less through his friend Rezko.) I am certain he did not live on skid row after his graduation from Harvard. He us now 46. Mrs. Obama was not sitting on her hands either. They made money. Her University pay: 200,000 dollars a year. Their kids go to the prestigious University of Chicago Laboratory School, the tuition being 20,000 dollars a crack (well, Mommy gets a 50% discount because she works for the University). Not exactly “blue collar working class” are they? The statement that his net worth is only 1.3 million is a joke.
As

Posted by: Starlight | February 18, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

Pointman, Steve – same go to you . . . it’s obvious who are Republicans . . . don’t push your luck . . .

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 18, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

I am very disappointed to see ABC report on such a non-issue.
I cannot in good conscience vote for a woman with such a petty disingenuous staff.
As an academic, today’s comment about “plagiarism” is extremely offensive. As a scientist, this sort of misinformation to move people away from an issue reminds me of the Bush Administration’s tactics to keep scientific issues out of the public domain.
The term has nothing to do with speeches, the whole purpose of such hyperboles is to point the listeners a broader truth. Words ARE important, a vital part of our laws and democracy. To allow that key message to fall through the cracks in order to WHINE about who said it first, is frankly insulting.

Posted by: Julie P. | February 18, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

The timing of this revelation is revealing

Posted by: plainsmm | February 18, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

TALKING ABOUT PLAGIARISM . . .
IT IS NOW CLEAR that the Clintons are prepared to do anything to win! Thus, they accuse Sen. Obama of PRAGIARISM while they use his speech lines frequently in this campaign. And Obama should know that the title of Hillary’s book IT TAKES A VILLAGE was pragiarized word for word from an African proverb. Why is the press not talking about that!As they say, THOSE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDN’T THROW THE FIRST STONE! I have an authoritative book of African provides that proves clearly that Hillary plagiarized the title of his book and part of his speech in 1996 at a big Democratic Party event! Anyone who cares to discover more can also use the Google search search engine to discover more by simply typing: “It takes a village” an African proverb. He or she will receive many pages of result on this topic!

Posted by: udo sam | February 18, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

Why is this news? Obama used Gov. Patrick’s lines with his permission. Gov. Patrick is an Obama advisor. If this is plagiarism, I would expect that Hillary and all politicians plagiarize the words of their advisors on a daily basis. Let them do so without the media making a big deal about it.

Posted by: Tulula | February 18, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Plagiarism really doesn’t matter in a campaign. Just ask former President Joe Biden.

Posted by: justathought | February 18, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

STEVE – right from clinton’s webpage. one major problem w/ your candidate. she is in the back pockets of the medical lobbyists. hillary supports, how many medical lobbyists fund her campaign? can you tell me? do your research and compare her voting record with the lobbyists support…interesting findings. how is she going to restructure health care when she is being funded by medical lobbyists. although the new york times failed to mentioned this minor point in praising her health care reform, the person that stated her reform will only work if the medical lobbyists buy into changing the current system. how is that going to happen when they fund her campaign. amazing

Posted by: greenlee2 | February 18, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Obama put people in to sleep with his rhetoric. It turned out that he stole line from someone else. It’s obviously he is an empty suite. He really made me think that the lines were originally from him. He’d never quoted or mentioned about the original of them and now he thinks that it is not a big deal. To down play his cheats.

Posted by: ironroof | February 18, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

We hold thess truths to be self evident,
that all men are created equal, etc -
Declaration of Independence, 7/4/1776
… we have only fear to fear itself …
FDR inaugaral speech, March 1933.
Shame on ABC News for not giving these
attributions.

Posted by: R. Lawrence`` | February 18, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

Chris, like I said before – what Obama supporters hate is dismissiveness. I just told you how I make my decisions and you just dismissed all of them and told me how I’m going to vote.
Not my problem when McCain becomes President and he makes same-sex marriage unconstitutional. If you’re not willing to work with me, why should I be willing to work with you?

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 18, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

The timing of the revelation is revealing

Posted by: plainsm | February 18, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm

How is it plagerizing when they have the same speech writer??

Posted by: em19 | February 18, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

Hillary may have quoted a line from a poem at the dinner, but she also said it came from a poem, and gave the authers name. Obama has tried to take full credit for everything instead of announcing he is using someone eles words. He also stated he voted against the war, until someone else had to point out to him, that he wasn’t in congress to be able to place a vote. Then he changed his words to say he was against the war…he had to take out the word vote! He’s not a rose people…wake up and smell the con!

Posted by: Deni304 | February 18, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

I guess even he was getting tired of his same ole spiel and had to borrow some new words. Like Clinton stated: when the lights are off then what. Obama is not ready for prime time. He has no real solutions for any of this mess we are in. Michelle Obama says today that this is the first time she is really proud of America in her adult life???? Huh?? Because it now directly affects her? Hillary Clinton is the right solution for America now as the Oama rhetoric fades to black.

Posted by: Ken | February 18, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

What issue are we skirting DMK? The fact that Hillary refused to admit she’s guilty of the very same behavior as Obama (of using speeches written by other people without giving speechwriters credit)?

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 18, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm

Why is Obama being lectured about plagiarism instead of the candidate from MA? Those comments came from the Declaration of Independence and Franklin D. Roosevelt! I think their are more things and issues to worry about right now then who said what!

Posted by: Steve of NE | February 18, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

Plagiarism, fake fainting spells, flip flopping on campaign financing – all in three days. Pretty good, I can see he is different than other politicians.

Posted by: jeff | February 18, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

Edwards’s campaign also blasted Obama for parroting the former senator in a foreign policy speech he gave Tuesday in which he said he wanted to work towards ending nuclear proliferation. They said the senator has followed Edwards on a number of issues this campaign year, including healthcare, poverty and now nuclear proliferation.
“If you need any more proof that John Edwards is shaping the race for the Democratic nomination, you don’t need to look any further than Senator Obama, who has followed Edwards’s lead on healthcare, poverty and, today, eliminating nuclear weapons,” Murray said in an e-mail to The Hill. “Next thing you know, he’ll be rooting for the Tar Heels.”
Obama copies line from Edwards 2003 announcement speech. “For months, Obama has been telling crowds, ‘I know I haven’t spent a lot of time learning the ways of Washington. But I’ve been there long enough to know that the ways of Washington must change.’ Edwards gave a similar spin to his short political resume when he announced his candidacy in September 2003, declaring, ‘I haven’t spent most of my life in politics, but I’ve spent enough time in Washington to know how much we need to change it.’”

Posted by: Joe | February 18, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

Senator Clinton and Senator McCain would be perfect for each other, as Senators forever. One likes to talk and the other wants to inspire war words.

Posted by: B.Dee | February 18, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

Man, both Hillary supporters and the Republidorks are complete idiots! I’d be embarrassed to be associated with either of you the way you conduct yourselves.
Oh well, I’ve got my stock portfolio to keep me happy, I’m pretty sure the lot of you can’t say the same . . .

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 18, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

greenlee2 – Give me a break! Sounds like you’re listening to Rush Limbaugh! Mr. Hussein Obama is an empty suit. Take a look at the Clinton history, then come back with some facts.
Mr. Hussein “Muslim” Obama should at least use his own lines rather than plagiarising! When I ask many of my friends who are smitten by Mr. Hussein, what it is they like about him. They are speechless.
Go Hillary!

Posted by: Navid | February 18, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

hill and bill are going to lose the election b/c they are divisive. she will probably win the nomination but who is going to vote her. she cannot win a red state and if you think she is going to win fl, keep dreaming. she has lost a percentage of the black vote which is one of the most loyal bases in the dem party. she does not appeal to independents. this election is over. mccain will win and we will be still fighting this war on terror for the several decades.

Posted by: greenlee2 | February 18, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

Can we please stop the silliness. Has basic logic taken another vacation? Imagine how awful any speaker would sound if they had to credit MLK, Kennedy, Thomas Jefferson and Deval Patrick while making their case in five sentences. Quit thinking what other people tell you to think and start thinking for yourselves already….geez!

Posted by: Aris-D | February 18, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

It’s amazing to me that college kids are voting for Obama… They don’t know squat about domestic policy, let alone FOREIGN policy! Many of those kids cannot event show Kenya on the map!

Posted by: DMK | February 18, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

WHAT DISGUIST ME IS THIS ELECTION IS GETTING TO BE RACIAL—–I KNOW BLACKS WHO TOLD ME THEY WOULD VOTE FOR CLINTON IN A HEARTBEAT IF HE HAD ANOTHER CHANCE AT THE PRESIDENCY, HOWEVER NOW THAT OBAMA HAS COME ALONG….THEY ARE AGAINST THE CLINTONS. THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR CAN BE CALLED NOTHING BUT RACIAL, SUPPOSE ALL THE WHITES DECIDED TO VOTE FOR HILLARY JUST BECAUSE SHE’S WHITE, BLACKS WOULD BE CALLING IT PREJUDICE, BIGOTRY AND RACISM. I TRULY DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW ONE CAN VOTE FOR A PERSON JUST BECAUSE OF HIS COLOR LIKE MOST AFRO AMERICANS ARE!!!!

Posted by: JOAN | February 18, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

WELL SAID, Joan!… And the Obamanites have the NERVE to say that Bill didn’t do much to better our lives.. SHAME ON THEM! They deserve 4 more years with Dubya!

Posted by: DMK | February 18, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

This year Plagiarism Oscar awards goes to
Plagiarist Barack Hussein Obama jr.
Kudos kudos !!!

Posted by: Nick | February 18, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

In Houston, Texas the Barak Obama Campaign Headquarters has a CUBAN FLAG hanging on the wall behind the front desk that has a picture of Che Guevara on it. The reporter tried to interview the women running the headquarters…. and she wouldn’t talk about it. She said “she didn’t have TIME to discuss the Cuban flag” which was hanging there on the wall. Then she took the microphone loose and ran like h*ll from the camera. If you all want to see this video go to MyFoxHouston.com My question to all on this post is…… do any of you know who and what the Cuban flag and Che Guevara stands for? Do any of you want to salute the Cuban flag? If so…. why? Does Obama endorse this Cuban flag being displayed, since he REFUSES to SALUTE THE AMERICAN FLAG???? And you better have a GOOD EXPLANATION.

Posted by: JOAN | February 18, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

Hillary is the biggest Plagiarist. She has no original ideas, she is trying everyday to imitate Obama so that she can pick up some vote here and there. She cannot even manage her campaign and her finance, how can we trust this woman to manage America. She is an empty pant suit who has very little brain, but a big crook. More than half Americans know very well she is totally corrupt. She has no business teaching moral values to others, much less to Obama.

Posted by: Rodeo | February 18, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

Hey JOAN…you seem to know your candidate so well. Do you know who Abongo Roy Obama is? Just curious.

Posted by: Concerned | February 18, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

Busted

Posted by: mike | February 18, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

Navid – you did not answer my question instead you deflected it just like a clinton supporter. what did SHE do in the 1990s? i am an independent that thinks for himself. i agree with SamTheCat-that this election is a bust. hill and bill are going to lose and we will be in a war for next 20 or more years.

Posted by: greenlee2 | February 18, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

Change we can believe in
Vote PATRICK

Posted by: GM | February 18, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

Go Tell Hillary to RELEASE HER TAX RETURN FIRST. This lady is not at all credible. She is an empty pant suit, just wants to be president by say anything and do anything method. She is worse than Republicans when it comes to nasty and dirty campaign. She is a loser, lost 8 states straight and ran away to Texas when the results were coming out. What is her next hiding place? Why is she running away?

Posted by: MissRighto | February 18, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

I know what the Cuban flag stands for. It stands for oppresions, human rights violations, and of course communism. Che was one of Castro’s early Generals until he sent him into the jungles of Bolivia and had him murdered. It is no surprise that Mr. Obama is saluting this sort of thing. We are a nation of fools if we elect him.

Posted by: Concerned | February 18, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

Why is it when Clinton calls Obama on anything everyone says she is desperate. Yet when Obama calls out Clinton it is an example of politics of old? This double standard is also playing out in the sexism/racism issue. I really feel that Obama has been given a free ride so far. Today on Tucker (MSNBC) they stated this was a religious movement and not a political one. Google the Trinity Church in Chicago and I sure hope not after reading the about area. Rhetoric has played itself out without solutions. Hillary Clinton is the clear and obvious choice to turn America around.
Hillary Clinton 08 – the logical choice

Posted by: Jamie | February 18, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

And what did HE – the All Mighty Barack – did????????? What was he doing in the 1990′s? And greenlee2, don’t talk about deflecting questions… YOU, the Obama sheep, are doing the same! I am waiting for your commnet on that movie about the U of C Hospitals, one of the greediest hospitals in the nation!

Posted by: DMK | February 18, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

Senator Obama’s only “new” ideas were ones that Senator Clinton proposed months ago:
* His “new” proposal for a national infrastructure bank is one that Hillary proposed August 8, 2007. [“I’m proud to co-sponsor Senator Dodd and Senator Hagel's National Infrastructure Bank Act that we just introduced to establish a federally-backed independent bank that will evaluate and finance large infrastructure projects by subsidies, loan guarantees, and bonds backed by the full faith and credit of the United States.” Rebuilding America speech, 8/8/07; S. 1926, 8/1/07]
* His “new” proposal to create 5 million green collar jobs was proposed by Hillary on November 5, 2007. [“And three, to move us from a carbon-based economy to an efficient, green economy by unleashing a wave of private-sector innovation in clean energy and energy efficiency. I believe that will create at least five million good new jobs from clean energy over the next decade.” Energy and Climate speech, 11/5/07]
o Google CEO Eric Schmidt praises Hillary’s plan to create 5 million Green Collar jobs, 11/5/07: “By emphasizing the connection between promoting a green efficient economy and job creation, Senator Clinton’s plan seeks to harness the power of technology and innovation to address one of our most pressing global challenges…The goal of producing 5 million new jobs can be achieved by private sector investment and bipartisan support for increased research and development in efficiency and clean energy.”

Posted by: Stephanie | February 18, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

Now I see why America is on the downward decline in the world. We have so many waffling people. This man makes a great statement about words and his integrity.All he was doing was defending himself against people who really are out of touch with reality.What do we have to fear? Maybe a BETTER AMERICA!!!!! Hillary I hear there is some great retirement property in Mexico. John Mccain 100 year man can you withstand the fight? I THINK NOT!!!GO BARACK GO!!!!

Posted by: john fritz | February 18, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

Yes, it was ghostwritten… and I suppose you would say that Barry’s books are not ghostwritten?? The man CANNNOT write his one speeches, yet he’s capable of writing his own books. Yeah, right!

Posted by: DMK | February 18, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

When you listen to Senator Cliton, you’d think she’s running for Secretary of Health and Human Services or White House Chief Staff. Her speeches are short on vision and purpose but long on process and policies. One important responsibility of any president is to mobilize the nation around a common purpose through inspirational speeches. It’s upto technocrats in various government departments to fashion detail policies to realize a president’s vision. The American people know that and that’s why Senator Obama is fairing better than Senator Cliton in the campaign. I think Senator Clinton is jealous of Obama’s oratorical skills. My advice to Senator Clinton is to promote your strengths and not allow your advisers and surrogates to reinforce the public perception that the Clintons will do anything to win an election.

Posted by: Jon | February 18, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

First off if he’s a friend of Obama, then who cares. It’s not what he says, but what he stands for. Hillary is running a dirty campaign and is looking for anything to put Obama down. It’s ridiculous anyone even supports her right now. I liked both candidates until she started running her dirty campaigning, and lost track of bringing this country back on it’s feet, and giving us something to vote for. Her campaigning reminds me of Bush and that I DON’T like at all.

Posted by: John From Cincinnati | February 18, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm

So Michelle is proud of America for the first time in her adult life. So how did she feel about America before her husband was running?

Posted by: Molly | February 18, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

HOW CAN HE SAY THIS IS NOT A BIG DEAL!!!! I am a teacher/health professional. The issue is he misled people to think that these were his own words. Plagiarism involves taking someone elses work and making it appear as though it were your own.
Who cares it is his so-called friend. I don’t let students use their friends work!!!!

Posted by: Maria | February 18, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

I am not a supporter of Obama. I am a republican. Obama is a genuine candidate. I think those who don’t like Obama will try to label him as a thief, a con artist and more. You are a bunch of fools. Politicians do borrow words all the time. I believe you democrats need to stand behind someone who can inspire and able to beat McCain in November. If you think Hillary can beat us Republican, think again.

Posted by: EVANS | February 18, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

“Yes we can!!!”
–deval patrick
Vote Patrick! Um…I mean Vote Obama!

Posted by: Molly | February 18, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

Don’t you journalists think that you should report on the discrepancies between the actual votes for Obama and the reported votes from NY than this silly spin? I am just outraged to see that in America we have officials reporting 0 votes in over 80 election districts in NYC. This is a real issue we have to talk about and hold the people of wrong doing accountable. Even disclosing tax return is far more important than this. Please wake up – you are not working for tabloids.

Posted by: Philip, NY | February 18, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

“Well done is better than well said.” — Benjamin Franklin
HILLIARY FOR PRESIDENT!!!

Posted by: JOAN | February 18, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

I am scared of Obama and his followers.
They are so rude, pushy and red faced when they are heckling President Clinton at his rallies. I know they are planted there – also all the ladies and girls fainting at Obama rallies. These people will do anything for Obama. Now his wife said this is the first time she has ever been proud of America in her life???? What does that tell you. And she will be our First Lady???? Wake up America.

Posted by: Faye | February 18, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

Don’t you journalists think that you should report on the discrepancies between the actual votes for Obama and the reported votes from NY than this silly spin?
No, we should be reporting on the votes in Florida and Michigan.

Posted by: DMK | February 18, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

Latest poll – just released – HRC with a 7 point lead in Wisconsin ( ARG From Fri + Sat) before the plagiarism scandal!) If she wins here and in Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania – allot, allot of super delagates will be voting to seat Florida’s delegation!

Posted by: JD | February 18, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

EVANS writes: “If you think Hillary can beat us Republican, think again”.
Ha. Nice try.
Just on the way home happened to listen to Hannity the moron passionately suggesting Republicans in TX should vote for Hussein.
Aren’t you guys scared the hell about Hillary being the nominee? all the b.s about Hillary “uniting” republicans not withstanding.

Posted by: truths08 | February 18, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

The audacity of a dope.

Posted by: therockofages | February 18, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Wow that looks really good. I wasn’t proud to be an American until recently. Makes ya really excited to have her as the first lady.

Posted by: jack | February 18, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

KUDOS to TRUTHS08!
Time for OBAMA HUSSEIN to go under the microscope.
BRAVO!

Posted by: JJ | February 18, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

Michelle Obama you are no Jackie Kennedy! She was proud to be an American. Shame Shame.

Posted by: jim | February 18, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

I’m shocked that this story was printed at all. The media is always so favorable toward Obama. I had a good laugh at the “Yes we can” part of Clinton’s alleged plagarism.

Posted by: melanie | February 18, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

This is the most ludicrous charge that I’ve ever heard. The fact that the Clinton campaign has resorted to such cheap and baseless accusations suggests how truly desperate it has become in the face of Obama’s now established superiority as a candidate for the leadership of the Democratic Party. Senator Obama was evidently quoting aphorisms from famous speeches and did not need to define the obvious and credit his sources, because they are evident to the American public (to the point of cliche), and to anyone with any acquaintance with American history. Senator Obama was referring to the capacity for visionary words to transcend the status of rhetoric, and for the Clintons to accuse him of plagiarism attests to just how willfully obtuse their desperation has rendered them. An author of two books, Senator Obama does not need to plagiarise, since he, unlike many of his rivals, speaks with sincerity and conviction. The tone of his voice at this point in his Wisconsin speech makes it evident (to anyone whose judgment isn’t clouded by ulterior motives) that quotation was implied. I am appalled by the insipid response of the media to this ridiculous, foundationless accusation.

Posted by: Kelly | February 18, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

werdup writes “because obama and edwards asked to remove their names to get undecided to be the main vote there”
Not only that!. It is a big myth should we say a big lie promoted by the Hussein camp that Michigan was not contested. They secretly and not-so-secretly campaigned to have as many of their supporters vote undecided.
They fought and lost it.

Posted by: truths08 | February 18, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

Two observations on the plagiarism :-
1) It is not so much about the words and the quotations used by Obama but the tactical approach in combat. It is the same tactical approach coupled with the same words and if you watch the video the same mannerism and same arrogant dismissive style. Both politicians are cloned by the same creator – David Axelrod. This is scary because it is like a Stepford factory, only that this is Axelrod factory. It’s like Karl Rove creating a president out of a bush.
2) Obama has run on a campaign of the future, of hope, freshness, authenticity and purity. In short, he is the messiah of politics. The fact that he and his campaign have to come out in defence has cracked that image. I noticed that when Obama was defending himself on camera, his body language speaks for itself – his eyes were looking down – he was embarrassed to be caught with his hands in the cookie jar.

Posted by: bee jay li | February 18, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

Hillary’s public service : the Cattle Futures profits, the White Water, the Rose Firm, The Travelgate, The Pardongate, The Filegate, Vincent Foster, the White House funiture Theftgate,and the Wal-Mart Board member against workers’ right to form a union, just to name a few. Yes, you can be proud of Hillary?

Posted by: Philip, NY | February 18, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

Is the Hillaryland REALLY getting this desperate? Gov. Patrick is a friend of Obama, and told him that he could use those words…that’s NOT plagarism. Does Hillary tell everyone in the audience who wrote the speech she is about to give? SHE doesn’t write those speeches, her speechwriters do that for her, as well as for Obama. Perhaps Obama should put Gov. Patrick on his speechwriting staff.

Posted by: MattinDallas | February 18, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

Could anyone imagine the uproar if Hillary had “borrowed” material from someone else in speeches of hers? Hell even Chris Matthews attacked Howard Wolfson for saying “check under the hood” in an interview before Iowa saying it was Obama’s line and that Wolfson was “stealing” it when it was a line that has been used for years. Talk about a double standard…

Posted by: Eric | February 18, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

Barack is a copycat, and a liar, and a clever manipulator!

Posted by: TheTruth | February 18, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

Good night mama, poor Hillary cannot decide in which direction to go … first she says words are cheap, now she is upset to think Obama quoted from MLK, JFK, FDR and says he should have attributed them to Devel Patrick… and this from a lady who uses a speech writer. Will some one throw that wind bag her Prozac.

Posted by: ruthkayc | February 18, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

“I have a dream”, well a reality check actually. Finally, Senator Obama busted for his Duval speech, along with his wife Michele for her “for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country” speech.
Bye…Bye back to the south side of Chicago. Luv Ya!

Posted by: OWO | February 18, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

I smell a familiar smell… perception manipulation – perception creation ??? otherwise known as that good ole’ time Clinton spin…. C’mon Hillary – we all love ya, buy we know that politicians have been stealing from each others speeches since the beginning of time…. Tryin to make a big deal outta this… It just wastes our time and makes you look silly…

Posted by: Geezer | February 18, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

Someone who thinks that plagiarism is ok and considers themselves reasonably intelligent shows how low our morals have gone.

Posted by: jackie | February 18, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

“he was embarrassed to be caught with his hands in the cookie jar”
You shouldn’t be surprised at all. Hussein Obama-the wimp – has never EVER fought a tough political fight.
For months Hussein had a good time it was all fine and dandy to call Hillary names, and say he has supeior virtues, …it was all fun with the zombies swooning and chanting , pathologic Hillary haters like Chris Mathews pimping……..
Carter is going to endorse Hussein? Fantastic! Will be very useful like the one he got from Teddy the moron Kennedy who is the champion for change. Can you beleive Ted Kennedy fighting for “change”?

Posted by: truths08 | February 18, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

Oh yea, like this is enough for me not to vote for Obama…Yea right..NOT :-)

Posted by: Joe | February 18, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

HILLIARY RELEASE YOUR TAX REPORTS!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: ready999 | February 18, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

Joe, I agree with you. Finding out that our candidate is a phony is not enough for me to change either.

Posted by: jeff | February 18, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

No doubt John Edwards can sympathize with Clinton today. Obama’s ripoffs are real.
Just recently, Barack Obama was accused of “stealing” Hillary Clinton’s economic plan.
“He basically took Clinton’s words and Clinton’s policies and called them his own,” Hassett said. “If I were a professor I’d give him an F and try to get him kicked out of school for something this terrible … I remember Mrs. Clinton saying shared prosperity and I remember the bill that she introduced in August for infrastructure. The fact is these are things Obama has taken as his own without crediting the source of the ideas which was Mrs. Clinton.”
Sun-Times: Obama takes hit on economic policy – Campaign’s a ripoff of Clinton’s, her supporters, McCain adviser maintains.
It’s hardly a first.
Edwards said Obama was using stolen ideas:
Edwards’s campaign also blasted Obama for parroting the former senator in a foreign policy speech he gave Tuesday in which he said he wanted to work towards ending nuclear proliferation. They said the senator has followed Edwards on a number of issues this campaign year, including healthcare, poverty and now nuclear proliferation.
“If you need any more proof that John Edwards is shaping the race for the Democratic nomination, you don’t need to look any further than Senator Obama, who has followed Edwards’s lead on healthcare, poverty and, today, eliminating nuclear weapons,” Murray said in an e-mail to The Hill. “Next thing you know, he’ll be rooting for the Tar Heels.”
Obama copies line from Edwards 2003 announcement speech. “For months, Obama has been telling crowds, ‘I know I haven’t spent a lot of time learning the ways of Washington. But I’ve been there long enough to know that the ways of Washington must change.’ Edwards gave a similar spin to his short political resume when he announced his candidacy in September 2003, declaring, ‘I haven’t spent most of my life in politics, but I’ve spent enough time in Washington to know how much we need to change it.’”
Obama borrows from Edwards
Elizabeth Edwards on Obama:
In the Aug. issue of Progressive magazine Elizabeth Edwards goes so far as to call Obama an outright copycat, accusing him of “lifting her husband’s best lines.” E. Edwards: “You listen to the language of what people say, particularly Obama, who seems to be using a lot of John’s 2004 language, which is maybe not surprising since one of his speechwriters was one of our speechwriters, his media guy was our media guy. These people know John’s mantra as well as anybody could know it. They’ve moved from ‘hope is on the way’ to ‘the audacity of hope.’ I’m constantly hearing things in a familiar tone.”
… … Edwards: “We are not the party of Washington insiders. We are the party of the people, and so from this day forward we say no — no forever to the money from Washington lobbyists.”
The only difference — Obama beat him to it that day, towing the same anti-lobbyist line at an earlier event that day in central Iowa. Obama: “We’ve got to have a president in the White House who sets bold targets and sets broad goals and isn’t intimidated by the barriers and the roadblocks and isn’t driven by those who already have an investment in the status quo – somebody who can overcome the lobby-driven, divisive politics that characterizes this issue.”
Meanwhile, back at the labor forum, Obama used another token Edwardian statement: “We need a president…who is not afraid to mention unions.”
Would “borrow” make the Obama fans feel better?
Obama is selling himself more than any policy. “Only Barack Obama can bring a fractured people together. . . . And he embodies the hope of our nation,” a narrator says. But the Obama ad seems to borrow populist language from Edwards, saying he will “take on the special interests” and closing with Obama’s declaration that “we’re gonna take our country back.”
It’s rich that Obama is actually circulating the horse manure that Clinton is using his “Fired Up and Ready to Go.” The phrase goes back to South Carolina NAACP roots.
Nelson Rivers, field operations chief for the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said he first heard the late civil rights activist and Charleston native Jondelle Harris Johnson use the call. And he used it often during marches, rallies and banquets.

Posted by: TheTruth | February 18, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

This must be one of those “bonehead” moments he occassionally get like the Rezko association. Wonder how many bonehead moments he’ll have if he gets elected.

Posted by: wakeuppeople | February 18, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

IfCNN-ABC-FOX-CBS-MSNBC want a good story why wont they ask HILLIARY about not releasing her tax records??????????? Or are they in HILLIARY POCKET TOO!!!

Posted by: ready999 | February 18, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

Hahaha – It’s not plagiarism if you’re friend helps you write it, and states explicitly that he condones the use of his style. Plagiarism is when Hillary Clinton steals Senator Obama’s message every other week such as “change, Yes we will, etc.” Then the smarmy Clintonites point a lawyerly finger at Obama crying foul. Hypocrites. Goooooodbye Clintons forever… I used to support you but now I hate you for your Karl Rove campaign, your lies (so many lies), and your unprecedented hypocrisy.

Posted by: TurtleWedge | February 18, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

So Obama wife is not proud of American? wow, she needs to move,

Posted by: crazyperson | February 18, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

“I DON’T LET PEOPLE OR THE NEWS TO MAKE DECISONS FOR ME” .
Until that is…Wolf Blitzer and Chris Mathews has been making decisions for every one promoting Senator Hussein for months. It was fun. Wasn’t it?

Posted by: truths08 | February 18, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

I totally agree with Patriot 2008. In my opinion, the clinto campaign is very malisios. Couldn’t they find anything better to writ about Obama. America is nos caring about plagerized thins It is not reallt plagerized. If Pthe guy is not offened and they have the same write what is the big deal.We as american citizens need someone who can insipre and have credibilty. Obama has all the characteristics of being a president. We all know that. America concentrate on this country and who can run this country. Obama is the best canidate for this job. Hillary is great but Obama is wonderful and marvelous. May the good Lord bless all of you. I pray for your souls. We need peace. Obama is handling himself very well. I will not change my mind. Obama is the best canidate to run this country.

Posted by: Wanda | February 18, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

Who wants a Gov. Patrick’s CLONE to be the POTUS???
FAKE FAKE FAKE
FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD

Posted by: Jeffrey | February 18, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

Senator has always provided solutions and Obama just performs.

Posted by: Leigh | February 18, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

“they can not win under normal competition”
Normal Competition for a Obama Zombie =
1)Whole media pimping for your candidate i.e. throw out all journalistic ethics and display visceral hatred for Hillary and promote Hussein.
2)Call your opponenet “divisive” “carries baggage” and promote yourself as the embodiment of all virtues.
3)If any of #2 is challenged cry like a wimp and call the opponents racist.
YUP.YUP. “Normal competition” is over.

Posted by: truths08 | February 18, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Barack Obama inexperience is responsible for his tactical mistake saying it is not a BIG DEAL!!!
Barack Obama worsened the problem pointing the fingers to others instead of apologizing and move on, knowing that people are willing to forgive for his mistake.
Barack Obama should also give the credit to the Cesar Chavez movement for using their old slogan before embarking in the search for Latino votes.

Posted by: Angel | February 18, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

5 reasons why Dems should avoid Hillary:
1. Hillary is one of the most divisive figures in modern history. That is a fact.
2. More than half the nation is against Hillary. That is a fact.
3. Hillary brings less independents to support the Democratic party. That is a fact.
4. Hillary had her chance in the Whitehouse and she FAILED in Healthcare. That is a fact.
5. In all her 35 years of cooked up experience, Americans have difficulty finding even one single achivement. That is a fact.
So why vote for a failed horse or a donkey? She has no instinct for what is right, because Clintons have no respect for moral values. America definitely deserves a better political leader for the 21st century. A time comes and a time goes. Clintons had their time. Its over. Turn the page folks. Hillary will be blunder for us in November.
Hillary and Bush
1. Clinton and Bush: Both were for the war in Iraq
2. Both were for invading Iran
3. Both cannot manage one’s own campaign or the country
4. Both stubbornly refuse to accept their mistakes. Both argue that they are right no matter what happens.
5. Both squandered all the money and go into deficit.
Besides, if Hillary Clinton is so smart, how in the world did she squander away an inevitable lead that she possessed just three months ago, and HOW IN THE WORLD DID SHE END UP IN THE SITUATION SHE NOW FINDS HERSELF????
We should not want someone this inept in the Whitehouse! DANGEROUS!!!

Posted by: Cortez | February 18, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

Obama is not ready to be President. You Democrats had better wake up, otherwise you are going to choose a sure loser in the general election. If you do that, you deserve it. Take your head out of the sand. The way Obama is winning, you would think that he had more experience than Hillary. What is the matter with the American public? This is like electing a freshmen college student. He has no real experience. He should stay in the Senate, or even run for Governor in Illinois-Blagojevich is not that popular in Illinois-HE COULD WIN in Illinois. Do the right thing Barack, you know that you cannot win, and you know why you can’t win. Do the right thing, don’t lead your party down to defeat.

Posted by: Randy | February 18, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

Correction to previous comment:
Senator “Clinton” has always provided solutions and Obama just performs.

Posted by: Leigh | February 18, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

The phrase, “you have nothing to fear but fear itself” was said by Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1932 during the great depression.

Posted by: Eric Lamb | February 18, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

I just can’t figure out how a man who professes to be able to change America & the World, had to have his wife tell him to change his smoking habits.

Posted by: georgie | February 18, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

I’m sure those were not the first words Barack Obama borrowed so has his wife been doing the same. If you heard he speach in Jan I beleive when she was wearing the yellow or blue halter dress she was shaken up that night after Hillary won the Caucas, Then Mitchell wore that halter dress and gave a speach of another celebrity as I recall words were words by another used. That’s cheating same as an essay you can not cheat. Plagairized same thing it’s been going on for awhile and I told CNN and ABC that weeks ago.

Posted by: Gloria | February 18, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

I wonder if they cheated in College if that’s allowed at Harvard Univesity that makes the college look real bad.

Posted by: Gloria | February 18, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

Once again, people let the mainstream media distract them with ridiculous issues.
When the mainstream media does this, ask yourselves, does it really matter? Is this important, or am I letting the media convince me that it has some significance? If you’re a thinking person, your answer in the vast majority of the cases will be NO.
Ignore it folks. Tune out the noise and focus on the important issues.

Posted by: Bill | February 18, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

“He suggested we use these lines.” That is not Plagiarism. Clinton on the other hand must be VERY DESPERATE to want Obama out of the way. After all, Clinton can NOT beat Obama in a ‘Fair and Square’ competition so she has to keep using DIRTY tricks to push him back. Well, the more Clinton uses dirty tricks, the more the stuff falls right back on her.

Posted by: Angie | February 18, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

“He suggested we use these lines.” That is not Plagiarism. Clinton on the other hand must be VERY DESPERATE to want Obama out of the way. After all, Clinton can NOT beat Obama in a ‘Fair and Square’ competition so she has to keep using DIRTY tricks to push him back. Well, the more Clinton uses dirty tricks, the more the stuff falls right back on her. Obama08

Posted by: Angie | February 18, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

Obama’s wife just said she has “never been proud of America until now.” Give me a break… How about Lincoln for one?

Posted by: Trustmiracles | February 18, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

Has anyone yet mentioned this?: JFK’s famous quote, “My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country,” was taken from Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr., who,in an 1884 Memorial Day speech, said,“It is now the moment … to recall what our country has done for each of us, and to ask ourselves what we can do for our country in return.” Does that mean that JFK was a plagiarizer?

Posted by: Katie | February 18, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

In the Aug. issue of Progressive magazine Elizabeth Edwards goes so far as to call Obama an outright copycat, accusing him of “lifting her husband’s best lines.” E. Edwards: “You listen to the language of what people say, particularly Obama, who seems to be using a lot of John’s 2004 language, which is maybe not surprising since one of his speechwriters was one of our speechwriters, his media guy was our media guy. These people know John’s mantra as well as anybody could know it. They’ve moved from ‘hope is on the way’ to ‘the audacity of hope.’ I’m constantly hearing things in a familiar tone.”

Posted by: Steve | February 18, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

The Emperor has no clothes. Finally, the mainstream media is publishing a negative story about Senator Barrack Obama. If the majority of this country ends up voting the Democratic nomination the way of Barrack Obama, they have only themselves to blame for whatever happens next.

Posted by: Paul | February 18, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

HILLARY IS JUST DESPERATE. PERIOD. HER CAMPAIGN IS FULL OF A BUNCH OF LOSERS. One feels sad for them. Where is that candidate of inevitability now? Go tell her to release her TAX returns. Obama has released his tax return. He is more honest than her. And Americans know that, that is why she is losing so badly everywhere. Your candidate is wrong folks, no matter what you say or do against Obama, Americans know that she is more corrupt that anyone out there.

Posted by: Mandy | February 18, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

Perhaps Deval should be running for the president, not Obama, as Deval seems to be Obama’s brain. If they share the same view and policy, people should check out Deval’s records. Did he implement all the changes he said he would? Is MA better since he joined the office? Perhaps ABCNews could run a story of who is Obama and may be ‘simulate’ how Obama would perform if he is the president based on how Deval governs MA.

Posted by: NB | February 18, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

HA! Hillary supporters make me laugh. The guy Obama got the words from is Obama’s friend. They were both talking about Hillary’s charge that he’s nothing but words and his friend told him to use his words. That’s not plagiarism if the person who said the words said you can use them. You Hillary supports are so desperate. Mathematically now you know you can’t honestly win, everyone knows you’re done for. AY! We want “Fired up and Ready to Go” Back! Ha, what desperate fools, if you support her because she’s a woman wouldn’t you want a honest woman doesn’t say anything to get elected.

Posted by: Ayyub | February 18, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Barack Hussein talks about change, he can’t even change wording of speech, he just know how to plagiarized, imagine Democrats are voting for this man.
What a shame!

Posted by: Willy | February 18, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Obamas wife has never been proud of her country untill now. But this country gave her the opportunity to go to college, be a lawyer. She’s gotton alot more than most, guess it wasn’t good enough for her. Yep, this is the potential first Lady & mother & wife.

Posted by: georgie | February 18, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Anybody that believes any poll that comes out the media, is way clueless, I read today where Obama is way loved in the Muslim countries in fact all the terrorist leader back him,they think he will wonderful for them if he gets in,they said that way they will be treated better, isn’t that just great, we can turn all the terrorist loose, and let them bomb whom ever they want,

Posted by: crazyperson | February 18, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

Hillary and her supporters must be proud?? Hillary’s public service : the Cattle Futures profits, the White Water, the Rose Firm, The Travelgate, The Pardongate, The Filegate, Vincent Foster, the White House funiture Theftgate,and the Wal-Mart Board member against workers’ right to form a union, just to name a few. Yes, you can be proud of Hillary? I don’t get it, why some unions chose to back Hillary who represent anti-unions? LOL .. This is some realty show better than the one on TV!!!

Posted by: Philip, NY | February 18, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

Obamas wife hasn’t been proud of her country untill now, she said. Guess Barak didn’t inspire her with his copy cat verison of Ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country !

Posted by: georgie | February 18, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

we have 3 senators in the final, McCain Obama and Clinton. All senators are all words/talks and no governing experience. People should start asking who will they pick for their cabinets.

Posted by: Xiaer | February 18, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

So what about when Hillary said, a few weeks ago, “you campaign in poetry, but govern in prose”? She didn’t attribute this line to Cuomo.

Posted by: JDS | February 18, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

Anderson Cooper just did an extended piece on this topic. They also said that she is up in the WI polls. Not sure where some of these people get their “facts”.

Posted by: jeff | February 18, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

Obama, a man is as good as his word. In your situation, your not a man of your “words”. All of the sudden, the Hillary campaign looks better. I checked the word FAKE in the dictionary and the example given was “an Obama speech”. Enough said…

Posted by: paul | February 18, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

I am so proud of Obama for admitting his mistake. It will be a cold day in hell before Hillay admits her mistake in voting for going to war. He is the real statesman of the two.

Posted by: kenny mac | February 18, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

Maybe it’s Deval Patrick that we should be voting for. This candidate of “change” and “forward thinking” seems to reach back in the past to get his inspiration. Doesn’t help your credibility Obama. He’s such a fraud!

Posted by: Fed up with Obama | February 18, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

look the media brought these items up some quite a long time ago, but since it didn’t have any legs, Obama just kept going and got sloppy. He of course believed he could get away with anything. Voters in Massachusetts weren’t fooled twice, they bought that stuff from Deval Patrick and now they are sorry. No wonder he couldn’t deliver that state for obama.

Posted by: nycvoter | February 18, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

Michelle Obama should come out and apoligize for her comments. With all the opportunities she has had it seems like a slap in the face. I was insulted and feel it feeds into the negative image of “entitlement”. I know many people who are proud to be an American that would change places with her in a heart beat.

Posted by: Jim | February 18, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

Obama came up with a NEW song to make up for copying D. Patrick’s speech.
“I believe I can fly
I believe I can touch the sky
I think about it every night and day
spread my wings and fly away…”
Oopps, this is an R. Kelly song. Copied words again.

Posted by: enlightened | February 18, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

No matter what Obama does, he will still be the saint in the eyes of the media….thats a fact

Posted by: Angus | February 18, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

I’m sorry for all those young people that don’t remember that a few words from Biden, for which he had given credit to the original author many times and then didn’t in ONE tv interview, brought down his campaign in a nano-second. So maybe times have changed and it’s “no big deal” like ‘pimping’ is just a phrase we all use, and ‘periodically, when she’s feeling down” doesn’t mean anything and ‘her voters will come to me, but will mine got to her’ is not divisive, but I’m old school and his entire campaign is based on a higher minded campaign and that’s just a false premise. Remeber we’re voting for a President not a Candidate and this candidate, in any case, is showing his vulnerabilities.

Posted by: nycvoter | February 18, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

The contents and the way of Clintons’ attacks on their opponent can make someone completely lost trust and respect for the Clintons. Bill Clinton, was he a two-term president of US?

Posted by: lily | February 18, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

I just looked at the transcript of what Obama said.
The funny thing is that the only thing that can be considered “plagiarism” is really just two words, which ironically are the words: “just words.” The rest is from speeches so famous that they require no attribution.
Clinton is such a sleaze. Who buys this garbage anyway? And is this one of her vaunted “solutions for america”?

Posted by: mg | February 18, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

lily are you kidding me? Clinton was the only two term Democratic President since FDR. This is not an attack by the Clintons, it is a fact on video… that’s it

Posted by: nyvoter | February 18, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

I’d rather have Obama borrow a few words at the suggestion of a friend than have Hillary vote to borrow a couple trillion from China to finance Bush’s idiotic war in Iraq?
Really, which is worse?
The Clintons internal polling must look pretty awful, cause these folks are starting to look DESPERATE.

Posted by: Matt | February 18, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

plagirism “to take ideas, writings from another and pass them off as your own” No wonder kids today keep getting caught plagirizing, they don’t even know what it means.

Posted by: nycvoter | February 18, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

I think the media needs to examine many Obama speeches, which are taken directly from Patrick 2006 campaign. This is not an isolated incidence.
Nor did Obama invent “charged up and ready to go,” it was given to him by a South Carolina pol, some time ago.
Clinton’s chant is: “yes, we will,” it is not “yes, we can,” and Obama took that chant from Caesar Chavez.
Let’s get real — nothing about Obama’s campaign is as “fresh” as he claims.

Posted by: scorber | February 18, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

I find that accusation amazing considering how Hillary Clinton has blatantly and repeatedly copied Obama. Obama started with the “Change” slogan and suddenly Hillary is change. Obama then coined “Yes we can.” Hillary followed up with “Yes we can and yes we will.” And there are numerous other similar duplications. The Clintons are desparate, her campaign is in a free fall and broke (yes they are lying about their campaign finances) and they have no one to blame but themselves. How foolish can you be to simply bypass states that you think you might lose in and then leave town before election is over. Hillary needs much more than a new campaign manager.

Posted by: Arlington TX | February 18, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

Between this and Michelle Obama basically saying she hasn’t been proud to be American until NOW (meaning she’s not proud of America unless it elects her husband) …..the Obamas are TOAST. If Hillary doesn’t use this – then the GOP will. This will NOT play well with Americans. Adios Michelle – thanks for showing your true colors.

Posted by: Jo | February 18, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

Obam says that Hillary copied “Yes We Can,” from him, but that is the slogan of Cesar Chavez and the United Farm Workers, which they coined back in 1973. They endorsed Hillary.
What if some candidate made his campaign slogan “I Have Dream” but never acknowledged MLK or the Civil Rights Movement? It would be viewed as direspectful, which is kind of how Obama seems to me.

Posted by: Karen | February 18, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

I wish they would run the software on this speech that is used in some High schools and maybe then you would find it is plagiarism. I believe that theese are words that stir feeling in many americans and to find theese speeches are just passed around makes me sick and sad

Posted by: bishop | February 18, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

The day before a vote, the Clintons predictably emit some propagandist tripe for mass consumption. And every week they get a little more desperate. They don’t care about the truth. Just winning at all costs.
The real question is: What kind of dupe falls for this sleaze? Who are these uneducated elderly white people who still support Hillary? WAKE UP, FOLKS!

Posted by: MATT | February 18, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

I have just read these comments by so many pepople and can’t understand why so many of you can’t see what Obama is all about. Please check his voting record in senate. You will clearly see that Hillary is the True American and leader here.

Posted by: Charlie | February 18, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

Just picture the commercials. Obama refusing to say the pledge, Obama refusing to wear the American flag lapel pin, and Michelle saying she’s never been proud of her country (till now)…. Say hello to your next president, President John McCain! Yeeeeehaw!

Posted by: Jo | February 18, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

The best thing about this election season is hearing the Obama supporters say the exact same thing about the Clintons that the Republicans said about them for 8 looong years.
It’s good to on the Right. And right.

Posted by: Brian York | February 18, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

Fraud, fake fraud, fake, fake, fake, fake
No Obama,

Posted by: Michelle | February 18, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

ABC’s “Late Show With Jimmy Kimmel” and the rest of the late shows should give their writers the night off (may be the week off), since Barack and Michelle obama provided them with plenty of material for their jokes.

Posted by: Angel | February 18, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

P.S. Forget the plagerism scandal, it’s the Michelle Obama anti american comments that will finish Barack.

Posted by: Brian York | February 18, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

To Wisonsin voters – please consider voting for Hillary Clinton. Yes, Obama speaks well and gives good speeches – but he is just not seasoned enough to be President. Hillary is the best qualified candidate. Please consider voting for Hillary.

Posted by: Ally | February 18, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

Now you have half the democrats hating Hillary and the other half hating Barack. In exit polling last week each side said they would not be supporting the other side in the election. The democrat party implodes and John McCain is elected President. All without the GOP spending a dime. Sweeeeet.

Posted by: Jo | February 18, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

Another commercial: BO dragging on weed while saying “I have visions”.

Posted by: esvida | February 18, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

I’m really surprised Obama never goes negative on Hillary after all these nasty, sleazy attacks. She gives me the chills, and Bill Clinton is just a disaster. Where the heck are all these “solutions” she keeps talking about?
The only thing she seems to get done are attacks on Obama.

Posted by: kansas jack | February 18, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

Wrong JO it’s the Obama supporters that are saying they will not support Hillary if she gets in by a margin of 2-1 which leaves me to believe that Obama supporters are really Republicans.

Posted by: MR | February 18, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

Does anyone really think this guy isn’t a complete fraud?? How stupid of a nation are we becoming??

Posted by: Tim | February 18, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

Mr. Obama, in my University, plagiarism is a serious offence, one if convicted will get you not only suspended but kicked out of the University for good. Please name your sources. You are running for President. Please name your Iraq source voting also. Thanks.

Posted by: rock | February 18, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

So Obama stole the word “Change?”

Posted by: Sandra | February 18, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

Hillary Clinton Pre-election day Checklist:
1. Lie
2. Distort and Defame
3. Pander
4. Accuse
5. Cry
6. Go back to NYC for more $$$

Posted by: Kansas Jack | February 18, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

Hahaha Matt there is a headline on this very news site that says Obama admits to the plagiarism you nincompoop. The tear in New Hampshire? It sounds like you’ve already sunk to a low with that. What… no one has the right to cry. Get over it and learn the issues. I know most of you Obama supporters are Republicans anyway and will jump ship to McCain once Hillary is out.

Posted by: MR | February 18, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

This is another baseless attack… but I think 98% of people can see through the old Clinton tricks by now.
OBVIOUSLY, HILLARY IS GETTING DESPERATE.
OBAMA 08

Posted by: mg | February 18, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

It is interesting that the “speeches” of Jesus were steeped in the Old Testament. He quoted it, referred to it,alluded to it and explained it’s meaning by shaping his words to interpret it. Even if some might accuse him of plagarism, still on every occasion he spoke the truth. He spoke words of substance. His reliance on another source did not make “those words much less inspiring; less authentic and more political.”
Obama may have drawn on the words of another and in this case did not footnote the source, but still what he spoke was the truth. The is substance to what he said.
On a lighter note: copying from one source is the definition of plagarism, while copying from a number of different sources is research.

Posted by: kent | February 18, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

I think that it is funny how the Clinton campaign continues to nit pick at everything that Obama does. This is starting to make a lot of us sick of these political games and for the record to all of you that have said that Sen. Obama used the whole speech that is not true, because the only portion of that has been shown is part of his speech. I wish some people would get your facts straight before jumping on the band wagon and jumping to conclusions. Furthermore if everyone would notice, Sen. Obama and Gov. Duval are great friends, and they also have the same Campaign consultant in which Gov. Duval and Sen. Obama have both stated that Gov. Duval had suggested that Sen. Obama used his lines. So it shows that it was not a big deal with the one that Obama “stole” the section of his speech from. This is just another tactic to take the focus off of Clintons weaknesses and demoralize the surge of Obama, because she is very desperate for votes and the win.

Posted by: Robert McClish | February 19, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

@Tim Well, we sort of elected GW, no?
—————————————–
PRES. HARRY S. TRUMAN: Senator, you–are you certain that you are quite ready for the country, or the country is ready for you in the role of president in January 1961? I have no doubt about the political heights to which you are destined to rise, but I’m deeply concerned and troubled about the situation we are up against in the world now and in the immediate future. That is why I hope that someone with the greatest possible maturity and experience would be available at this time. May I urge you to be patient.
PRES. JOHN F. KENNEDY: The world is changing. The old ways will not do. It is time for new generation of leadership to cope with new problems and new opportunities, for there is a new world to be won, a world of peace and good will, a world of hope and abundance, and I want America to lead the way to that new world.
Today I say to you, with full knowledge of the responsibilities of that high office, that if the people of the nation select me to be their president, I am ready.

Posted by: Dan Casali | February 19, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

BUSH and HILLARY both supported the idiotic Iraq war.
OBAMA stood against it.
BUSH AND HILLARY take money from corporate special interest lobbyists.
OBAMA refuses it.
BUSH and HILLARY have had a hand in presidential power for the last 28 years.
OBAMA is a washington outsider.
VOTE OBAMA, TAKE BACK GOVERNMENT BY THE PEOPLE

Posted by: Matt | February 19, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

Obama supporter=frauds planted by Sean Hanitty and Rush Slimeball. You can’t fool me I see right through you Obamacans. The real supporters are in for a rude awakening come November. So sad.

Posted by: MR | February 19, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am

obama relies on the power of his words, and thinks that’s just fine. then when we find out he “borrowed” the words, he says so what. but words are what he’s used to get the followers going. of course, he has policy positions, but he “borrowed” them from hillary and a few from edwards and others, then claimed them as his own. to those obamaites who say no that’s not true, see his website, you’re beyond hope if you don’t know that websites just provide self-serving propaganda. do some research and find the records of hillary putting out proposals and obama then putting out those same proposals three months later. he’s done it over and over. then when she mentions one of her proposals he accuses her of getting the idea from him! the thing is, there are actually records, and even though hillary can’t call him on his lies, because the media would just say she’s going negative, the repubs will have no qualms whatever. and obamaites, don’t call it swiftboating either. i see that all the time. it isn’t swiftboating to point out the truth about an opponent.

Posted by: so saddened | February 19, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am

poor , poor Obama lets not take fault for his own action, lets say boo hoo she did it too, by using one phrase not entire speeches theres a difference,,,, or does anyone care that his health plan, is the plan that she released prior to his, only a few things changed, does he ever remember what he says in his speaches or debates, since debates he does not do very well in because he does not know the question, thats why he viewed poorly in California and he did not excite too many independant voters, he has to be a quick thinker and believe and know what he is try to pitch the American public, but he does great at speeches even if they are not all of his own, i wonder if anyone ever dissected his speech to see how many great quotes he used, vs his thoughts, mmm i wonder if we would be surprised,,,, Hillary is prepared and knows her stuff she was awasome at the debate,, well i suppose he does have something with merit the next time he speaks for Patrick, he should place Patrick on ticket as the man who can move the nation, ,,,,,,He better start memorizing his economic plans since Im pretty sure they will test him to see if he knows what he is pitching to the American voters,, believe in yourself,, and take a stand let us hear what your made of,, gives us a plan you did not borrow from Hillary, oh thats right the media said you have similiar thouhts on how to run a country but the failed to say hers were released 3 4 months prior to yours what similiarities,,, Go Obama, the cult will believe any excuse,, you give because you can do no wrong,, and they say Hillary is deceitful i suppose she has company,,,,, now

Posted by: vimed | February 19, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

Does this previous post tell us something about where Hillary’s folks are taking the debate about our nation’s future?
By “MR”
Obama supporter=frauds planted by Sean Hanitty and Rush Slimeball. You can’t fool me I see right through you Obamacans. The real supporters are in for a rude awakening come November. So sad.

Posted by: George Bush | February 19, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

I’m baffled at the level of distortion in this thread. Obama used perhaps 30 seconds of Patrick’s speech in an hour long speech, and those 30 seconds also came from a much longer Patrick speech, so how is that copying an entire speech word for word? Also, the word for what he did was “paraphrase,” not “plagiarize.” The venom being spewed at Obama is ludicrous and disgusting. Grow up people.

Posted by: JB | February 19, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Young people, vote for your man, Senator Obama. It has always been young people who step up and finally assume responsibility to elect a new generation to the White House. You are young, ready to try something new, energetic and hopeful. All these old people are set in their ways and afraid of change. It’s time for you to make this country what you want it to be–for you and for generations to come.

Posted by: JBrown | February 19, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

LOL you keep saying ‘Clinton does negative attacks on Obama”. You people sound like your whining. Wait till the general election when the repub machine gets going. It will be relentless. These so-called Clinton attacks are nothing if you ask me she’s been way to nice.

Posted by: MR | February 19, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am

just another point for the obamaites who blame hillary for anything bad that anybody dares to say about their guy. are you going to blame hillary if obama gets the nomination and she’s out of the race? who will you blame then? the media who practically hypnotized you into not seeing through this guy? the dirty trick repubs, even though mccain is not like bush/rove in that regard? there’s always someone to blame. i suggest looking at obama and looking in the mirror.

Posted by: so saddened | February 19, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

Hillary is a disaster. Somebody get her out of there before she destroys the party. Today she said that the “red state” voters shouldn’t count. Tomorrow it’ll be all the voters.
I don’t want a queen offering cheap handouts. I want a president with vision and conviction, who can challenge the american people to a higher purpose.
OBAMA 08

Posted by: Kansas Jack | February 19, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

just another point for the obamaites who blame hillary for anything bad that anybody dares to say about their guy. are you going to blame hillary if obama gets the nomination and she’s out of the race? who will you blame then? the media who practically hypnotized you into not seeing through this guy? the dirty trick repubs, even though mccain is not like bush/rove in that regard? there’s always someone to blame. i suggest looking at obama and looking in the mirror.

Posted by: so saddened | February 19, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

LOL George Bush says it all. Just by your name proves exactly what I’ve been saying all along.

Posted by: MR | February 19, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am

well said so saddened

Posted by: MR | February 19, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

Why so much fuss about words that really do not belong to any of them. It is not using other people’s words that really matters, it is how these words are delivered that really matters. Let Clinton use these same words, and I bet you it will not have the same impact. Great men all over the world were all motivational and the best Presidents were the ones that were able to bring everyone together to achieve a common goal.Clinton may make a good president but Obama will be a better President.

Posted by: vinny | February 19, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am

Geez, how many articles does ABC have on this matter? Its important to know because in the spirit of fairness I think you’re going to need to devote just as many articles to the fact that Hillary plagiarized parts of It Takes a Village.
Talking about the effect the failure to acknowledge her co-authorship has had on her professional life, unacknowledged co-author Barbara Feinman said:
“The problem came when Mrs. Clinton decided, for reasons still a mystery to me, not to acknowledge my help, or that of anyone else, by name. Because the White House had issued a press release early on in the process stating that I had been hired to “help prepare the manuscript,” when it was finished and there was no mention of me in the acknowledgments, the anti-Clinton forces went to town. The irony was that by not acknowledging me, rather than diminishing my role, she unwittingly elevated me to a sort of literary Joan of Arc.”
Man, let’s see all you holier-than-thou Hillary supporters try and explain this as somehow different from Obama . . .

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 19, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am

And vinny how do you know Obama will make a better president? He has no credentials that suggest that he would. What has he accomplished as a US senator? I like him but he needs to pay his dues plain and simple.

Posted by: MR | February 19, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am

So, this what the race to white house has evolved into? It has become an issue of who can be made to look better by tearing down your opponent. Instead of the candidates just giving us their stand on the issues and letting the voters decide, we have to endure this endless stream of attacks on each other. I partly blame the media for this, because they love it!!! They know what sells in America and helps their ratings. They know that a lot of Americans love it also when it becomes a heated argument or a contentious discourse bordering on being belligerent. It seems that the real issues aren’t even discussed. They become secondary to the next juicy tidbit that has been revealed that could somehow destroy someone’s character.
It is a shame though because the real losers in all this are the American voters.
But, I can’t be too harsh on the media. After all they are just giving us what we want. Americans favorite TV programs are indication of what they want.We watch sex, violence and reality TV, which is so far from reality.
It has gotten so bad that the candidates themselves are telling people that if they want to know how they stand on certain issues, then go to their website and find out. Because they know they won’t find out through the television and media.
What a circus!!! But, everyone loves a circus!!! Right????
joerecc

Posted by: joerecc | February 19, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am

well said joerecc

Posted by: MR | February 19, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am

I wish you people would think,,,,obama’s policies were critized when he first stated campigning…he platform was extremely limited..Hillary has always had a platform and has a voting record to back it up..Obama’s record is limited particularly since his State record he sat on the fence too often …he was not eligible to vote on the Iraq war..saying what he would have done means nothing…could have would should…we will never know

Posted by: dellee | February 19, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am

Obama should have known better to not take the ideas of others and represent them as his own. But then I wasn’t too surprised by his actions.

Posted by: Lee | February 19, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am

I cannot believe that we are
actually evaluating our next
President on who wrote his speeches
and whether he uses phrases that
other people have raced. ABC is a
Clinton spin machine. This is absurd
to even be talking about something
so totally irrelevant.
Wake up America, you are being
played the Clinton machine who can’t
define the word “is”, who want to
make rule changes in the middle of
an election and who will really do
anything to obtain power. PLEASE
WHERE IS THE PARTY LEADERSHIP WHEN
SOMETHING SO WRONG IS GOING ON.

Posted by: Jack | February 19, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

Lee, don’t forget to add that Hillary Clinton should also have known better than to take the ideas of others and represent them as her own without giving them credit? Were you surprised to hear that she plagiarized parts of It Takes a Village?

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 19, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

When I buy a greeting card I search for one that reflects my feelings towards the intended recipient. When I find one that someone has penned that suits my intentions, but for some egotistical reason the author’s name appears below the verse, I decline. The thoughts are mine, (original to me but not restricted by me) so I defray, desiring to deliver my message solitarily, so it may endorse my feelings on a personal level. Never blind to the fact that there are millions more who embrace those feelings: a dream , a hope, a love, change. We share feelings, we can share words. Speak what you mean. Mean what you say.

Posted by: t.giles | February 19, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am

ruth if you want to see a REAL load of fairy dust, you should pick up a copy of It Takes a Village – Hillary plagiarized half of it from a woman named Barbara Feinman . . .

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 19, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am

Oh my goodness, so Mrs Obama is just now proud to be an American well I understand why he does not pledge allegiance,, you know I am a working class mother, and a husband in the military and quess what since I was born my mother and father enstowed into me that I must be proud of who i am and where i am from , no matter how hard life gets, you will succeed as long as you believe in yourself and love and support those who fight and die for this nation, so all the war heroes, does she support, you know i heard the other day Berkley ask Us Marines to leave city, they were unwelcomed, and some say that representives dont recognize a pin of the United States flag, as a symbol of pride faith and the symbol of what Americans see with pride, because it represents the war in Iraq what a bunch of crock,, you are an American and you should be proud of where your from, because her we are all tested but you have the freedom to do as you wish and to be what you want, shame and this is coming from a wife of the next presidental nominee, so if he was not followed by the American people , she would not be proud to be in America,,mmm well there you go even the next Presidential and his wife have had little faith in America,, sheees,,, what are we doing,,,, voting for great speeches of togetherness and taking everything in as if we dont face reality that every step to pass what is needed for the American people will be a fight , what do people think our representatives are going to pass all his bills,,,wake up America it will take work,, and how will he handle an issue,,,,,,

Posted by: vimed | February 19, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am

ruth and john – like I’ve said all along, if you were truly individuals of principle you would have taken context and the character of the complainant into account. A person of principles is a person who puts truth and objectivity about political gain.
To not hold Hillary to the same level of judgment as Barack shows that one isn’t really a person of principle – it’s evidence of conceit, hypocrisy, and embarassment.
Plagiarism is wrong. However politics is not college – the fact is that these guys all use speech-writers and campaign managers and there’s a lot of cross over and re-usage. What I’ve said all along is that if Hillary is guilty of the same behavior then she is not in any position in the name of principle to be making an issue of ‘plagiarism’. She can try to make it an issue for personal gain, which is really what she’s about.
The difference between the two of you and Hillary is that she’s never seemed to try and pass herself off as somebody of principle . . .

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 19, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

Plagarism is not the issue. Hypocrisy is. Just Words? Just Speeches? That’s what Obama said and says, just words and just speeches. The problem with Obama is you get the feeling that it is not just words he is lifting. The World knows who Hillary Clinton is and stands for. The World knows who John McCain is and what he stands for. Who is the real Barak Obama? That will be the question the Republicans will ask, let us hope that more democrats start asking the question. Is he really ready to lead, as ready as he thinks he is, or is he just words and just speeches.

Posted by: Cybermom75 | February 19, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

Obama. Just who are you? Sometimes you claim to be Lincoln, sometimes JFK, or RFK. Other times you claim to be MLK or FDR, or Gov. Deval Patrick, or your hero Ronald Reagan. When will you claim to be Napoleon or Julius Cesar or Genghis Khan? Sometimes you claim to be an illegal farm worker when you say “si se puede”. Contrary to what you will have people believe, you did not invent that saying. Are you now claiming to be Latino too? Then there are times you think you are the messiah & you read your speeches like a preacher, like Jim Jones. I know who you are! Besides being a phony, you are a charlatan. Personally, I think you’re Sybil.

Posted by: Love Sybil | February 19, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am

Is this really an argument? Wolfson says “When you’re running on your rhetoric and the power of your oratory”??? Who said that is what he was running on? Hillary? Hmm, I wonder if she has speech writers and if so does she do a running credit as she speaks?
Obama has never come out and said “I am here to deliver rhetoric for the American people”!!!
On the other hand, what his “rhetoric” actually says is coming true. Hillary will say or do anything to win. The entire days news cycle was taken up by this instead of the candidates addressing the issues that we face. It is politics as usual for Hillary.
I mean, he could come out and talk about the fact that Hillary already failed once on healthcare. Or he could bring up how the Clintons set the stage for the Republican dominance of the last 14 years in Congress. Or how when her husband screwed her over, she didn’t fight, she fell in line behind him. BUT he doesn’t. He’s far too classy and actually living the change he talks about.

Posted by: Fischer | February 19, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am

I listened to both Patrick and Obama…and to tell you the truth…Patrick is a lot better. Just Words, when applied to a MAN rather than the words of great DOERS throughtout histry is damning…no matter how they try to associate themselves with greatness, the fact is Obama is not Roosevelt, King, Kennedy, Jefferson or any other great leader. His best known quote seems to come from a governer from Massachussets…I had a kid apply for a job once, he involved his friend when he applied…I hired the friend.

Posted by: Russs | February 19, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am

cybermom75/ruth – is it Obama’s platform that lacks depth or is it your knowledge of his platform that lacks depth.
60% of Democrats thought Hillary had the better economic plan than Barack and Hillary supporters seem to think that she came out with her plan first. The reality is that she didn’t release hers until mid-January . . . a week AFTER the CNN survey showed that most voters thought hers was best.
Obama’s not a magician – he can’t make people hear things if they’re not willing to listen . . .
PS Sybil – the Cesar Chavez saying was all over the news to demonstrate how both Hillary and Obama were using sayings from other people without mentioning his name . . . I guess that ought to make Hillary a “phony” and a “charlatan” too, then right? Or are you another holier-than-thou Hillary supporter not basing their judgments on the principles they profess to be about . . .

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 19, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am

Does anyone believe there is not a single instance of Hillary taking words from any of Bill Clinton’s speeches? Do you think she always gave him credit? Why is it different if it’s friends who have shared ideas and words WITH each other and OF each other’s before?
If the two are friends, and they have had personal conversations regarding those words “lifted”…who’s to say that just because Patrick was the first to use them in a speech that they were SOLELY his words?

Posted by: bittentoo | February 19, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am

Great post Vimed ; not so eloquent BUT YOU are Right ON. Everyone should read your post. You also ask how will he (Obama) handle an issue?
Let’s just hope that if becomes president He doesn’t try to vote PRESENT (not voting) when he is faced with an issue, like he did over 100 times as an Illinois politician
joerecc

Posted by: joerecc | February 19, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am

joerecc – please see my post above about how arrogant holier-than-thou Hillary supporters are hypocritical about passing judgment on Barack but incapable of holding Hillary accountable to those same principles and instead resort to mudslinging to hide the truth . . . thx

Posted by: SamTheCat | February 19, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am

The Republicans will Love it if the Dems are so stupid to put Obama in the nominee. He’s already hung himself & the GOP will shred him up & toss him out!

Posted by: georgie | February 19, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am

The time for change. The change to WHAT? Obama lovers dont CARE. They dont CARE that he cannot possibly do 1/2 the crap he is talking about. They do NOT care in the slightest he isnt experienced enough to run the country. They do not care that he has played the most vicious pyscological campain the country has seen in 50 years or more.
All the Obama people CARE about is getting their way. They think Obama has a magic wand , and everyone in the world, including Al Queda, Russia, China, and our own senate and house is going to do what he says.
In fact, his lack of experience will require him to use a teleprompter wherever he goes, with puppet masters in the background telling him what to say. Just like he is doing to try to win this nomination.

Posted by: tom | February 19, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am

Obama is so afraid of debating because his ideas are not his own. They are not thought through. They were stolen from Mrs. Clinton and one of his advisers made subtle changes. Remember the debates? Please, I hope some of you studied them. None of us are going to have lunch or a beer with the next president. But we will all have to live with their economic plan. We will all have to live with their ability to think for themselves and take actions without holding the hands of a mentor. This man, Obama is a junior senator. This is like asking an intern to perform a vasectomy, it’s not going to be pretty.

Posted by: Trustmiracles | February 19, 2008, 3:13 am 3:13 am

SamTheCat – Unlike you I am NOT interested in what the “arrogant holier-than-thou Hillary supporters” are saying,,,, your quotes. I am only interested in what the candidates are saying. So should you be.
Look, I am not a fan of Hillary either. Which is why I won’t be voting. The Democrat party can even override the choice of the people with super delegates.Does not say too much for the Democratic parties trust in the voters!! DOES IT?
By the way, you haven’t answered my question as to why did He vote so many times as PRESENT?
Get real SAM!!!!
joerecc

Posted by: joerecc | February 19, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am

Well in the middle of this “war of words” I found something very interesting… The name for the new campaign that Hillary is using “Solutions for America” is pretty similar to a Campaign booklet in 2004 from John Edwards “Real Solutions for America”… isn’t that funny… every time she tries to say something bad it comes back like a boomerang… …
…and also she stole Edward’s Blockbuster-immigration line… I saw that on Nightline ABC…

Posted by: Nathy | February 19, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am

Democrats: Why don’t you just elect DAVID AXELROD as your Dem Nominee. He writes all these sassy, inspiring speeches anyway of Gov. Patrick Change and your Obama Hope Saviour. He was interviewed yesterday and asked why he has used these “HOPE and CHANGE” Platform for all his clients. He said that Patrick was his 3rd client to use “Hope and Change” and that it worked all 3 times with the constituents…they lapped it up! So, Obama Saviour used it, too! Almost all of Obama’s rhetoric are lifted from 3 other politician’s speeches — all written by Axelrod. Vote for the person who inspired you then. Do not waste your time, Dems. I am now an independent leaning on Mc Cain or Clinton. My only hesitation about voting for Clinton is that this immature Obama cult might all commit harakiri if their saviour might not win as the Dem’s nominee. Which the Republicans will celebrate — because they know that Obama Saviour does not hold a chance in winning the General Election. This is the Rep Modus Operandi that these young, aggresive Obama followers still do not understand — again because like their candidate, they do not have experience in the voting schemes of life. That is why I have chosen to remain an Independent. These Democrats are all cry babies. They are killing each other while the Republicans are laughing to the Convention!!

Posted by: PurplePolitics | February 19, 2008, 3:32 am 3:32 am

Yes, Obama college student supporters! You can plagiarize too! It’s alright to cheat in your exams! It worked for Obama, it can work for your grades too!

Posted by: Joe | February 19, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am

Give way to OBAMA. We are tired with the tactic and policies of the CLINTONS.
They are old fashion politicians. I think they are out of words because they are losing ground for OBAMA. We know the tactic they are playing.There is no logic in this accusation. IS THIS IS THE WAY TO BECOME PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?????

Posted by: I.A.T Smith | February 19, 2008, 3:53 am 3:53 am

BTW, just so people don’t lose perspective here, what Obama did was to borrow one snappy comeback line from Deval Patrick out on the stump. But unfortunately in the anti-intellectual short-attention span world that is modern America, you know that there will be people saying, ‘hey dude you know I heard Obama copied all his speeches from this other guy?’
Again, I am only hopeful that not too many of those ignoramuses will actually vote.

Posted by: Gene L | February 19, 2008, 4:13 am 4:13 am

i mean really who cares…. greg

Posted by: greg | February 19, 2008, 4:26 am 4:26 am

THE OBAMA FANS WANT US TO STOP WITH THIS NONSENSE AND LOOK AT THE DETAILS FROM OBAMA…WHAT DETAILS! HE STARES INTO THE AUDIANCE WITH A LOOK OF CUNNING CURIOSITY. HE KNOWS THAT THE YOUNG AND RICH WILL BUY ANYTHING THAT SOUNDS OR LOOKS RICH. THE PROBLEM IS THAT HIS WORDS ARE CHEAP BECAUSE THEY ARE AND HAVE NOT BEEN HIS OWN. HOW STUPID IS AMERICA TO BUY THIS NONSENSE? IT SEEMS THAT THE PEOPLE WITH REALLY NO WORRIES CARE ABOUT THIS MAN AND MY QUESTION TO THEM IS WHY? ARE YOU THAT BORED WITH YOUR LIFE THAT YOU FIND SO MUCH EXITMENT IN HIM YOU CANT SEE THAT YOU ARE BEING FOOLED. I HAVE YET TO SEE HIM TALK SPECIFICS ABOUT ANY TOPIC. HE WILL SHORT PHRASE EVERYTHING. WE NEED TO CHANGE ARE SCHOOLS WE NEED BETTER CARS….OK? SPECIFICS NO ONE CARES ABOUT HOW JUST HOW IT SOUNDS!!!!! THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR BUSH I BET OBAMAS STUMPS ON THAT! YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE HILLARY BUT DAMN IT SHE WILL GET IT DONE! AND THAT SHOULD BE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING NOT WHAT YOU SAY IN KINDNESS OR SPIRIT! WE HAVE SO MUCH AT STAKE PEOPLE PLEASE VOTE FOR WHAT SEEMS TO REACH THE ISSUES. HILLARY EXPLAINS AND TAKES QUESTIONS AND HAS DONE GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE CAN I ASK FOR SAME FROM YOU?

Posted by: christy | February 19, 2008, 4:41 am 4:41 am

It was a bonehead thing she did.
There showing all the lines she plagiarized.
What was she thinking? Made her look like an idiot!

Posted by: JerryZ | February 19, 2008, 4:44 am 4:44 am

My God,
Is this how far the Democrats have fallen?
First, he’s too original and therefore radical?
Then He sounds too genuine, he must be a stuffed shirt?
Now, He isn’t original enough?
As compared to what!
THIS IS SMOKE AND MIRRORS, PEOPLE!
I can’t believe the networks actually bought this line of attack!
This is the last time any of Clintonites get to say the news hates Hillary. If they are willing to dish up this kind of attack instead of substantive issues… Every attack has been made to sound plausible with no fact checking!
Anyone who buys this one is stupider than a “W.” Republican

Posted by: Dave | February 19, 2008, 4:47 am 4:47 am

Hi dee deede again
Not the German bomb pearl harbor the brazilin bomb Pearl Harbor in 1875, When you borrow staff you ask permission and than you give at beck. Borrowing staff without consent is call “stealing” unless your name is Al Sharpton and then you are in showbiz — a former boy preacher, turned reckless demagogue, turning (he hopes) into an elder statesman of Black America. …
Than borrowing become a different meaning ……..

Posted by: sam | February 19, 2008, 5:39 am 5:39 am

Obama readily admitted using / borrowing words and gave credit. Admitting….that takes quite a while longer for a Clinton…. say maybe after years of investigations! Does anyone remember Whitewater or the trail of bodies that followed Bill while he was in Arkansas?

Posted by: Jake | February 19, 2008, 5:58 am 5:58 am

I don’t understand why good old famous American expression like “fired up and ready to go” that is been used for long time now is obama expression.

Posted by: nicole | February 19, 2008, 6:03 am 6:03 am

So if you take complete sections of a speech from someone you know, it’s “borrowing,” not “plagiarism.” Right. Sure.

Posted by: K.F. Miller | February 19, 2008, 6:22 am 6:22 am

This is just s mighty storm in a tiny tea-cup; a non-issue absolutely! The story of the Clintons is like that of drowning man holding onto whatever he or she could lay their hands to for survival. What is the big deal here about the borrowed words when the very Author of those same words was right there by the side of Obama when he borrowed and used the said words and who even applauded Obama for a job well done, after his delivery of the borrowed words: what better permission or approval could anyone in the world have than this? Is Obama now to sue Hillary for borrowing and using without due permission his own words…”fired up and ready to go”?

Posted by: Festrus | February 19, 2008, 6:25 am 6:25 am

This article, attack, debate, is all pure bull. Its a joke. This is petty and a desperate and pathetic attempt at trying to tarnish Obama’s record. If you think about it, its a fairly retarted argument. What did Obama do exactly? Whats more pathetic is that this is “NEWS”

Posted by: Michael Johnston | February 19, 2008, 6:37 am 6:37 am

What a sad state of affairs when people no longer think plagiarism is a “big deal”. Let’s hope the teachers union is not supporting him.

Posted by: jim | February 19, 2008, 6:51 am 6:51 am

I wonder what his third book will be – Gone with the Wind!

Posted by: jeff | February 19, 2008, 6:55 am 6:55 am

Ah, I said this would happen. Here it comes, the attacks, catching Obama in lies, in a box, etc. Oh, how the mighty fall.. and this is only the beginning. Just wait till he becomes the nominee.. wait, to see what the press does to him.
Like I have said over and over, if we wanted a nominee who can beat this nonsense, we should have gone with Hillary. What a shame.

Posted by: An opinion | February 19, 2008, 6:59 am 6:59 am

My impression: The Obama supporters are busy in the field, running a successful campaign; The clinton’s backers are bored, frustrated and lingering around participating in any online forum they can find.
Lastly, Obama’s lines are so inspirationals that Clinton herself uses them all the time.

Posted by: TheOne | February 19, 2008, 7:00 am 7:00 am

None of this is worth considering.
It is politically correct to support Obama no matter what.
Shut up and write good things about him.

Posted by: Hillary for President | February 19, 2008, 7:02 am 7:02 am

Yaaaaawwwwnnnnnn,
Is this really worth discussing?

Posted by: Ivan | February 19, 2008, 7:08 am 7:08 am

he steels peoples words and then he does not take credit for his own mistake he is a man act like one!

Posted by: cedericksa | February 19, 2008, 7:12 am 7:12 am

Clinton used “fired up” which is a cliche that anyone can use- she didn’t use one of his speeches WORD FOR WORD. There is a BIG DIFFERENCE.

Posted by: Denise | February 19, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am

This just shows that the Clinton campaign is desperate and running scared. This is a non issue for me and I suspect for a great many people who support Obama. Let’s discuss some real issues.

Posted by: Brian, Decatur, GA | February 19, 2008, 7:25 am 7:25 am

Hillary’s getting desperate and grabbing at WORDS. The media keeps saying he plagarized the Governor’s words. Whoops, he’s quoting historical words. She’s quoting Obama’s words. Who’s really the plagarist?

Posted by: Ken | February 19, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am

I am a high school English teacher. Should I tell my students that as long as they intend to “inspire” me, using someone else’s words without proper documentation is okay? What do you think their college professors might say? Many colleges have rigid policies about plagiarism that range from an automatic “F” on an assignment to an “F” for the course to expulsion. Hmm? Maybe they should say they just borrowed “just words.” Plagiarism is plagiarism.

Posted by: Christine | February 19, 2008, 7:40 am 7:40 am

Maybe now people will realize that Obama is just talk and no action. He is good at hyping a crowd, but that does not fix anything. Take away the teleprompter and you are able to see that he is nothing without his speeches.

Posted by: chip | February 19, 2008, 7:45 am 7:45 am

Interesting… this is simply a barmy line of reasoning and I am beginning to wonder whether the Clintons are desperate or deluded. I think they need a better argument to stop the Obama train. Soon they will tell us he borrowed the mouth with which he spoke these words – This type of phony politics is the reason why getting real change in Washington is such an uphill task – Although I’m still not an Obama supporter, these attacks on Obama might just be what I need to clearly understand the Clintons and their surrogates. If the Clinton continue on this path, they will definitely **not** get my vote. This is beginning to get too muddy for some of us…

Posted by: Ton Oguara | February 19, 2008, 7:59 am 7:59 am

Clintons say and do anything whether it is relevant or not. Just to get elected.

Posted by: Gala, T. | February 19, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am

Obama seems to be very good with words. Since winning the senate seat he has toured the world giving speeches and written two books. But being from Illinois I would like to know when is Obama going to start doing what I am paying him to do? So far words and empty promises are all we have gotten in Illinois.

Posted by: Roger | February 19, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

Christine – it was a political speech; not a term paper. You do know all these candidates have speech writers, right? And you know the guy who was “plagiarized” suggested Obama use those words, because he faced a similar attack two years ago, right? So is there really a difference between speech writers and a supporting office holder?

Posted by: Paul | February 19, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

Americans are funny, speeches are borrowed. there s nothing to fear except fear itself belonged to Shakespeare’s Julius Cesar, whats de fuzz about Obama borrowing it, BTW, kennedys speech by Ted sorenston had been used by my great grand father in 1745, LOL

Posted by: Ericology | February 19, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am

So much for him using good judgment. He admits he “borrowed” the words and he should probably have acknowledged that it wasn’t his own thoughts, that Patrick had suggested he say it.

Posted by: JHH | February 19, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am

I went to a college where a student who did what Obama did would have been expelled for at least a semester. Academic honesty was the highest expectation. I am troubled that the academic dishonesty here, played off as not a big deal, bodes poorly for what may come if Obama is elected.

Posted by: Jessica | February 19, 2008, 8:22 am 8:22 am

Um, Jessica, Obama isn’t a school kid writing a paper.
And the funny thing is the whole point of that part of his speech was about the power of words, which he demonstrated by quoting famous lines from previous speeches. The irony never ends.

Posted by: Paul | February 19, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am

Paul,
You aren’t seeing what the real mistake is that he made. It isn’t that he quoted famous passages, it isn’t that he uses catch phrases that have been used for years (yes we can), it is that he responded by using someone elses speech and tried passing it off as his own ORIGINAL response and thoughts. His point was, yes words do matter and the genius had to use someone elses words (Patrick’s) to try making that point. The majority of his popularity is becuase he can “inspire” people, he gives good speeches, and while most people of average intelligence know that candidates use speech writers, when he is responding to another candidate, he better be responding in his own words otherwise – what does he stand for????? It makes him look very weak, hypocritical and deceptive.

Posted by: JHH | February 19, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am

OK ABC how long are going to have this at the very top. Obama should of cited Patrick. I did think that ABC did a good job on their newscast however when they showed a clip of Hillary copying Edwards words about Blockbuster.
The difference might be that Patrick gave Obama the idea to use his words, I doubt Edwards gave Permission to Hillary.
Bottom line. Politicians steal and reuse everybody’s lines.

Posted by: conan1126 | February 19, 2008, 8:33 am 8:33 am

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought it was common practice for politicians to have someone else write their speeches for them to begin with. Should all politicians be considered plagiarists? Isn’t that just the pot calling the kettle black? I have yet to hear someone give credit to the writer of their speech every time they give one but they give the speech as their own. Is that a crime? It would be wonderful to have election campaigns based on the candidate’s actual resume. None of this nanny nanny boo boo business. This country needs professional and respectable leaders, not leaders that are name calling bigots. I would rather know up front what the person leading the country stands for, it would make life much easier in Congress.

Posted by: Kirsten | February 19, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am

So plagiarizing/borrowing words is OK as long as you’re a politician. Obama is setting a great example for present and future students…and we wonder why many Americans do not trust those who try to lead us.

Posted by: Irene fernandez | February 19, 2008, 8:41 am 8:41 am

I feel that Hillary should run for something instead of against something. That’s what Senator Obama is doing. He has his eyes on the finish line and not so much on her. I know it’s been 20 years since Hillary has driven a car, but you can’t keeping looking at the person sitting next to you while you’re trying to navigate to a destination, or you will surely crash. Right now they are neck and neck and if they aren’t focused, they both will crash in November.

Posted by: Stephen | February 19, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am

This fight over words belong to someone else is childish and petty!!!!! If you want to get techinacal about it, the words belong to the speech writters and not the politician! Grow -up and quit playing games and move on to the real issues.
Kathy–40 yr old mother of 3 in Texas

Posted by: kathy moore | February 19, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am

Hillary Clinton has ran out of gas. She is pulling at straws to find something to discredit Barack Obama. One thing I like about Barack is he focuses on the issues and right now Hillary is desperate. We all use good ideals and phases from other people. In most of Americans hearts we know Barack is the one for President of United States. I knew it when he did the keynote speech in 2004. Most Americans knew at that point where Barack destiny should be.

Posted by: Rufus | February 19, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am

I wonder how much plagerism was used to get his degrees’s?

Posted by: vnvet68 | February 19, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am

Paul, academic honestly applied not only to term papers but also to speeches. One of my best friends learned this the hard way when he didn’t give proper credit for a definition he included in an oral presentation. A number of institutions throughout the country emphasize honesty; the job they do was undermined not only by Obama’s cribbed speech but also by his reaction to the charge. Unaccountability. Whose work will he take the credit for next time?

Posted by: Jessica | February 19, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am

2008: Hillary Clinton, referring to Obama: “you campaign in poetry, you govern in prose.”
1985: Mario Cuomo, at Yale University
“you campaign, in poetry, you govern in prose”
This can be confirmed in Bartlett’s Quotations.

Posted by: Elizabeth | February 19, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am

Even if Obama took words from another, don’t you think that having those words in your mind and speaking them will have some affect on what’s in his heart? Pastors take the words from the Bible every Sunday and use them to inspire others. Don’t get me wrong, everyone should give credit where credit is due! However, in the same breath, you have to give Obama credit for saying those words and by the conviction in his voice, you can tell that he believes most of them. I’ve stood before thousands and spoken what’s on my heart and other times I’ve spoken what was on someone elses heart. We all have our good days and bad days. No one is perfect and never will be. Senator Clinton should have accused him instead of letting her aids do her bidding. At least Senator Obama responded to it personally instead of letting his aids handle it.

Posted by: Stephen | February 19, 2008, 8:55 am 8:55 am

I am shocked at the hypocrisy of all of you “genuine” Obama critics…you claim to be real people with real criticisms, but more often than not I see posts of nearly identical content from supposedly real, different people again and again from comment page to comment page. Plagiarism indeed…tsk, tsk…such temerity.

Posted by: PalatinePup | February 19, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am

Jessica – again, we’re talking the real world rather than academia. What do you suggest he or any candidate do? At the end of each speech – cite the speechwriters who contributed?
There probably hasn’t been a completely original political speech since July 1863.

Posted by: Paul | February 19, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am

How many times have you used “words” spoken by others to make your point of view “perfectly clear!”
I’m sorry the Clinton’s are acting like immature children – always pointing the finger at others and making impossible promises just to become the first ever husband and then wife elected presidents. They are making Americans look foolish and degrading our world immage.
Are they that predigous that they both have no choice but to stoop so very low?
If she is elected, I feel sorry for our country.

Posted by: Babs - 60+ disabled woman | February 19, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am

Adding comparing himself to MLK and JFK before, Barack Obama inexperience is responsible for mistakes such saying it is not a BIG DEAL.
Barack Obama behavior is similar to another inexperience candidate Dan Quayle who also tried to compare himself to John F. Kennedy in the 1988 debate facing Senator Lloyd Bentsen. Senator Bentsen responded: “……….. Senator, you’re no Jack Kennedy”
Barack worsened the perception pointing the fingers to others instead of apologizing and move on, knowing that people are willing to forgive for his mistake.
Barack Obama controversy on plagiarism reminds me OPRAH confronting James Frey author of the “A Million Little Pieces” who made up some of the stories as his owns. OPRAH reaction: “I feel duped. But more importantly, I feel that you betrayed millions of readers,”
Michelle Obama’s “For the first time in my adult lifetime I am really proud of my country”, and not George Bush 41 will “fire up and ready to go” those reluctant conservatives to vote for war hero John McCain facing Barack Obama.

Posted by: Angel | February 19, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am

Oh my gosh. I just read that Ronald Reagan actually was saying the words Peggy Noonan wrote for him. I’m so disappointed, because Hillary Clinton cited him as one of her favorite presidents on her campaign website.
I just can’t support anyone who favors a word thief like that.

Posted by: Paul | February 19, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am

Paul-I’ll enter this debate. Surely you would agree that the world of politics is even less real than academia. Secondly, when a candidate sells himself by claiming to be above politics, he should hold himself to that standard. So what if other politicians crib speeches? I thougt Obama’s claim to the candidacy was that he wasn’t just another politician.

Posted by: Jessica | February 19, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

PalatinePup – that’s because a good chunk of the Clinton supporting posts are most likely written by campaign staffers, pretending to be multiple people.
Watch how the themes of the posts come in waves.
And while most blogs don’t spend a lot of time trying to verify who is who, one did – Blue Hampshire – and it found seven userIDs that all tracked back to a single computer registered to the Clinton campaign.
Maybe all the campaigns do this, but Clinton’s is the only one to be caught.

Posted by: Paul | February 19, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am

Jessica:
You wrote – “Surely you would agree that the world of politics is even less real than academia.”
Not sure what you mean by this. How is politics less real than academia? And don’t be so sure I’d agree. They don’t call academia the Ivory Tower for nothing.
“Secondly, when a candidate sells himself by claiming to be above politics, he should hold himself to that standard.”
I’ve never heard Obama say he was above politics. I’ve heard he say he wants to change the tone of political discourse, but he’s never pretended to be anything other than a candidate. So I think you’re being a little sloppy with your terminology.
But just so I understand your point. If Obama is “above politics” as you say, he then should write every word in his speeches?

Posted by: Paul | February 19, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

I am very disturbed by the lack of common sense used in some of these posts. We all know these are politicians, they don’t write their speeches, nor create their on policies and programs. That is why they have staff. Do you think CEO’s come up with new products or programs for their companies? It is usually some hardworking individual like you or me. These people are the ones out front. If you plan on voting, try to use common sense. Otherwise stay home.

Posted by: lish | February 19, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am

Paul-I honestly feel the first point warrants no further explanation. As to the second, Obama doesnt say, “It’s time to change the political discourse.” He says, “It’s time for change.” In capital letters. The popular vote illustrates that Obama is having his cake and eating it too. In other words, he’s no different from anyone else on Capital Hill (the truest and most figurative Ivory Tower) but represents himself otherwise, a strategy that is working for him and that I find deceptive at best.

Posted by: Jessica | February 19, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am

Paul-Should I have cited my cliche used in above post? ;)

Posted by: Jessica | February 19, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am

Jessica – you may not feel your first point needs explanation, but I’ll bet most people either 1) don’t understand it, or 2) if they think they do, they don’t agree with you.
And no, Capitol Hill isn’t seen by anyone as the Ivory Tower. Well, maybe Frank Capra, but that’s it. The term Ivory Tower is almost exclusively used in reference to academia.
Finally, there is more to Obama’s call for change than just the word. I know Clinton supporters like to pretend otherwise. Part of it is changing the tone of political discourse. Sorry, that’s just the way it is. You can argue its not a good idea, but you can’t accurately argue its part of Obama’s call for change. There’s a blueprint or something the campaign has written (disclaimor – probably not every word by Obama himself, lol) outlining the call for change.
No where in that document does it say we ought to get rid of political speechwriters. And in effect, that’s the role Patrick was playing, by offering Obama’s speechwriters access to a speech Patrick gave in response to the same attack.

Posted by: Paul | February 19, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

Ok I think this FINALLY shows what obama is all about. FINALLY he is truly exposed for what he truly believes in. SOMEONE else’s words. He’s all talk and now we find out that the ALL TALK isn’t even “his” talk. Lame…Lame…obama. GO HILLARY~!

Posted by: Cindie | February 19, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

I was an admirer of Hillary. This will probably not get posted (as usual) but I’ll try again. Obama has the potential to raise our moral, spiritual and intellectual common denominator while Clinton seems every day more immersed in the rhealm of the spiritually impoversihed, the intellectually small and the spiritually ugly.

Posted by: Samantha | February 19, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

It’s a non-issue. Hillary

Posted by: fs | February 19, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

The truth about Obama shall prevail. This man really needs a reality check. Time will tell his ignorance.

Posted by: Anim | February 19, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Ok, like I really care that any of these candidates cited, stole, referenced, or even commented on someone elses speech. Big Deal! Some of you people are just amazing. It does not matter which one of them gets the DNC nomination, they will both go in and try to do the best they can, and then as you should be aware, the political machine will take affect and you all will be saying to the “President” you promised us this, and now you can’t deliver. I guess the chance of these two running on the same ticket is out of the question, due to the animosity that is stirred up by the media, and themselves.
Just because you like a certain candidate for what they say, does not mean that that candiate is best for the country. Try to have more of an open mind when it comes to these politics. NOne of them write their own speeches, hell, the President has a writer for all his speeches too. So the point is mute!

Posted by: Rowdy | February 19, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am

Paul, finally, and I have to go . . . do you think Obama’s electorate realizes what his “change” entails, or do you think they believe change to mean something else and have never even heard of The Blueprint? If so, why would this be the case? I think it’s because of the reason I cited above, and I just can’t shake the feeling Obama’s selling the voters out. He admitted as much when he said the cribbed speech wasn’t a big deal. It’s not about plagiarism.
Also, you seem to have missed the point of the Ivory Tower reference. Hello?

Posted by: Jessica | February 19, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

Is this the ONLY thing you all have on Obama??? Joe from morning Joe said that politicians borrow lines ALL THE TIME!!! This guy is a Republican who was a dang good senator. People, stick with the issues!!!!

Posted by: Omar | February 19, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

Enough already, GMA. We know where the attacks have come from. You’ve interviewed their team and you’ve interviewed the Governor who gave the original speech who shared with you that he has no problem what so ever with Senator Obama using the speech. Can we please move on to the next Clinton attack, which I’m sure GMA will keep going for as long as they can. Thank you.

Posted by: T | February 19, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

The common theme between Deval Patrick’s and Obama’s campaign is John Walsh, John was credited for coming up with the inspirational we can change campaign for Deval Partick….it worked people in MS bought it and are now may be regretting it… rest of America better wake up and start questioning Obama’s quest to bring change to America… Ask your self is it Obama talking or JFK, MLK or Ronald Reagan

Posted by: Dee Joseph | February 19, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

I for one would not listen to any of the present Media they all have an ax to grind and this is really making good ratings for them do you think they care how the rest of us feel I went for being happy about the elections coming up and Bush being gone to not sure I’ll vote at all .

Posted by: bishop | February 19, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

Obama has gone on record that he writes most of his own speeches. Keep in mind he’s doing this in a profession in which most politicians have most of their speeches written for them.
One of the obvious effects of Obama crafting most of his speeches is that he can often be seen grasping for words. Unlike Clinton who offers impossibly perfect speeches and obviously pre-arranged answers to debate questions, Obama is giving us a view into who he is as a person.
If Obama sometimes relies on speech writers, he is perfectly within the bound of his profession to do so. Ask Clinton how often she depends on the words of her speech writers. We don’t know if she’ll tell us the truth, but perfectly timed smiles and seamless sentence constructions give you a clue. Would the Hillary behind the pre-arranged presentation please come out and say, “Hi.” We want to know who you really are inside there.
In the same way that Clinton is not plagiarizing when she spouts the words of her official speech writers, Obama was not plagiarizing when he used the words of his un-official speech editor who is his friend and campaign supporter.

Posted by: Marcus Watson | February 19, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

Is Hilary really this desperate? It is pathetic on her part.

Posted by: S.B. | February 19, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

The environment in politics in this country, and the individuals who make their living in said environment, are pretentious and comical at best. A politician is a politician is a politician. For decades, campaigning candidates have done exactly what Obama did, including Hillary, without all of the negative attention. Why? Because in and of itself, it is relatively insignificant. It is sad to see Mrs. Clinton resort to such “desperate” tactics AGAIN. Nevertheless, it is understandable considering she is in a “desperate” situation. She was supposed to be the hands-down nominee for the Democratic Party, but now that she faces a serious challenge to her legacy she and her campaign are pulling out the stops and resorting to dirty and petty poli-tac-tics. And in all fairness, Obama’s camp responded just as pettily. When will this ever end? Is this the best the American people can hope for? More of the same old crap from politicians. God help us.

Posted by: disGUSted | February 19, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

People – I actually LISTENED TO THE ENTIRE OBAMA SPEECH ON SATURDAY NIGHT. THE ONLY WORDS THAT HE USED AND THAT DEVAL HAS USED AMOUNTED TO EXACTLY TWO QUOTES FROM MLK (they are not even Deval’s words); THAT IN TURN AMOUNTED TO EXACTLY 30 SECONDS OF A SPEECH THAT LASTED HALF AN HOUR. You are all taking this press “spin” on Obama plegiarising way too out of context and are stretching it to read into Obama’s character. This is the most ridiculous spin that i have ever observed in politics. Indeed, Hillary uses some of Barack’s language (word by word) in all of her stump speeches of late but you do not see Barack acting that lowly as to challenge her character just because at she says “yes, we can,” “let’s turn the page,” and “change” (all of which are his words from the beginnig) because Barack is taking the high-road as a true leader. The Clinton campaign is engaging in some desparate, rather ridiculous and slimey tactics that distract voters (and Barack for that matter) from the real issues. That underestimates the voters’ intelligences – we are smarter than that. Come on, let’s play fair here.

Posted by: Objective Observer | February 19, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

I don’t know what world you people live in but campaigns have always been nasty. Hello that’s what they’re supposed to be. You people probably don’t have any experience in voting. In 1980 Bush # 1 called Ronald Reagan’s Economic plan voodoo economics and yet he ended up being his vice president. Get over it that’s what this is all about.

Posted by: MR | February 19, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

Today my family vote went to Hillary.
No more fraud Obama will get our vote.

Posted by: Jack | February 19, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

It is very disappointed. Obama cheated people with his fake rhetoric. He made people believing that they are his own words. What is a shame? It gave me no doubt that voting for Hillary is the right thing.

Posted by: ironroof | February 19, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

To all the idiots complaining that Obama “plagiarized the whole speech” and that he “should drop from the race”… oh please! GIVE ME A BREAK!
Most politicians, including Mrs. Clinton, get ALL their speeches written for them. Besides, it is not like Obama lied under oath (like your favorite former president) about those words being his own.
Is there anyone among these idiots that can claim to have ever written or said something that is completely authentic and new? Want it or not, those ideas you believe are originally yours have in all likelihood being bounced around more than you think.
I actually find repugnant that the Clintons (like it or not they are 1 entity) keep trying to pin Barack down, not by convincing people that they have a better plan, but by throwing mud at him… 1st the repeated attempts to compare him to Jesse Jackson (beyond repugnant) and now this crap.
I would like to ask the Hillary supporters… what experience is she claiming she has? Being 1st lady for 8 years? Is that it? I think she has a hell of a lot more experience than Obama on inspiring HATE in the republicans! Imagine how nice… a president that inspires hate on only half the population! Don’t you think that is great?
The whole democrat race appears to be about:
Hillary supporters: those who want to get back at the republicans and beat them in to pulp, even if that trashes the country even more. They could care less about the fact that putting Hillary in power is the equivalent of having a president for more than 2 terms. The Clintons were there for 8 years; if half the democrats knew better, the Clintons wouldn’t even be considered.
Obama supporters: those tired of the polarization of the country and that want a president that will work hard to find a way to work with, not against, the other half of the country.

Posted by: anom | February 19, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

vote for hillary is a vote for obama vs versa. dem. in all honesty we should have both clintod could be foreign affairs and obama domestic. too far ahead of my time

Posted by: john | February 19, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

Please what politician doesnt use others words. He wasnt presenting a class paper he was using words to inspire. I don’t know why i am defending him other than i hate to see this type of garbage. I am nuts anyways as I am going to end up voting for mcCain.

Posted by: Khamilton | February 19, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

I don’t suppose anyone posting here would care to do just a teeny bit of personal research on this matter, now would we? Search on Deval’s name, you will eventually find a video interview with him in which he states that he has known Barack for 15 years, they share campaign ideas, he shared these particular words with Barack, and he [Deval] suggested that he [Barack] use them.
This sort of attack campaign strategy is for the benefit of the uninformed. It is shameless, and an insult to voters.

Posted by: Kevin K | February 19, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

Have any of the presidents in the past 30 years written their own speeches? Did Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, or Bush *ever* credit their speech writers, who wrote every word those men ever uttered to an audience?
It’s absolutely true that everyone should take care when using anyone else’s words. Also, originality is important. But let’s not pretend that politicians don’t use other people’s words (without naming them) every day.

Posted by: NicHud | February 19, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

Obama is a manipulator! Thank goodness, not all Americans fall for his elusive dreams.

Posted by: opal | February 19, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

how does hillary explain her use of bill’s speeches on several occasions. she has opened a can of worms that the repubs will use against her in the general election. she is a divider, uses racist tactics, and will sell different parts of the white house and probably air force one to the highest bid. also, compare her record with the lobbyists that support her and u will know that the restructure of health care is a joke. she is in the pockets of the medical lobbyists. is that on her website as well? this election is over. bill and hill will do anything to win and if that means divide the dem. party so people are sick of the dirty politics then they will. the repubs will not have to use any race baiting tactics b/c the clintons are doing a great job. racism always win in america.

Posted by: greenlee2 | February 19, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

I was saddened to watch Diane Sawyer’s interview with Deval this morning. I know she’s on a morning news magazine, but I had imagined she still had some journalistic integrity until today. The story about the Barack plagerism was totally one-sided, with not a single comment about all the times Clinton has borrowed others’ tag lines, e.g. Edwards’ reference to Blockbuster. It appeared as if Sawyer is working for the Clinton campaign, which is all very well, except NOT while she’s pretending to be a non-partisan journalist. Her refusal to accept Deval’s position together with her failure to present an opposing point of view was simply shameless. Diane–you’ve been rocked!!!

Posted by: Penny | February 19, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Shame on you, Obama, to say that ‘For the first time in my adult lifetime, I’m proud of my country’. But – I guess these are “Just Words”. Empty words. Obama is nothing but a con. His words turn out to be nothing but a phony, stealing words and speeches from others. Maybe he needs to consult Deval Patrick again. Patrick is a disaster as a Mass governor. The people in Mass saw this coming, they heard all the phony speeches before and they just don’t buy them. They voted for Hillary.
There is nothing real in the Obamas, they just want the power, to turn this country upside down, which is the CHANGE, that they want. We don’t want leader who is not proud of being American all the time. Go Hillary – the Proud American all the time.

Posted by: tigerjcs | February 19, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Obama shared campaign ideas with the others. The question is if he is really good or the others are good? He used his rhetoric to win the votes, to make people believe in him. He uses his words to inspire people. I would be very disappointed if Hillary used someone else healthcare plan as her own without crediting. Using someone else works without quoting and commenting is cheating, dishonor. Especially, it is what making up of a person character.

Posted by: ironroof | February 19, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Who is Obama? The Jr. Senator seems like an actor/orator and a follower not a leader. Borrowing other’s inspirational words in itself is not a crime, but when words are your only claim to greatness that’s a scary premise on which to elect a President of the USA. The great men who’s words he borrows went down in history because the came up with truly new things that would inspire people. Obama has not taken a stand on anything but that his words are inspirational. Since his best words are not even his own, what will he do if elected. We don’t know.
Hillary may have made some mistakes — as all great leaders do from time to time, but she has a history of solid change, including creating the first truly new Universal Health Care plan and knowing how to turn around a deep economic deficit, and is tough enough to face McCain and win.

Posted by: Mark | February 19, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

when I went to school plagiarism meant to take credit for someone else’s work as if it was your own. I also checked the dictionary right before I started to write to make sure the meaing hadn’t changed, and it hasn’t! I heard the speech and didn’t hear Barak Obama claim these were his own words. So I fail to see how he plagiarized. the governor of Massachussettes himself acknowledged he was friends with Obama and he didn’t mind him using his words, which amounted to “…just words…” according to the governor’s interview this morning on Good Morning America. I think the Clinton campaign needs to stop focusing so much on what he says, and start focusing on what he is doing: mainly unifying, encouraging, and inspiring the people that real change is possible! That we don’t have to settle for politics as usual, which is what we will get with the Clintons, if THEY are elected.

Posted by: jevans | February 19, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

Me thinks they have a BIGGER problem today! Michelle Obama said “for the first time in her adult lifetime she is proud of her country”. The media is all over it. She would be the most disrespected first lady this country has ever seen.

Posted by: jeff | February 19, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

The big deal with Obama borrowing words is that his whole campaign is about words and they inspire people. Now you find you that those words are words of another politican. All politicans do that. But Obama was supposed to be different. Now, maybe one has to wonder if that is so true.

Posted by: Jim | February 19, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

I heard Clinton use the words GIVE ME YOUR POOR YOUR HUNGRY and also use her hubby words all the time…when JFK said ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO, any of you really know that some one other then JFK wrote those famous words.
Lets be just a tad bit smart… she down and will do anythig to get attention.

Posted by: ALI | February 19, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

Words did not make up Hillary’s character. But, it did make up Obama’s character. That is the difference and it is huge.

Posted by: ironroof | February 19, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

Senator Obama:
“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.” Abraham Lincoln.
Just words. Liar.

Posted by: Tony | February 19, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

When left to his own devices, Obama hesitates, stutters, talks in circles and numerous times has to go back and “explain what I meant”. FRAUD. I was impressed with him at the 2004 convention, but I am so disillusioned by him now. I cannot get over his arrogance either- it has all gone to his head. And I also am concerned about his cocaine use “on the road to becoming a junkie” shows me an addictive destructive tendency and character weakness not to mention POOR JUDGMENT. Good we get rid of an alcoholic and replace him with a junkie.

Posted by: votetheissues | February 19, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

Words. Hillary Clinton’s own “words” on over supposed “plagarism” charge are more than pathetic. They’re sickening. They had a conference call on this topic. Someone from her team was actually tasked with finding this information – actually sitting down, going through recordings and finding some dirt.
She doesn’t get it. She probably never will. The reason many people are going for Obama isn’t beause he’s a great speaker. To assume that just underlines the fact that she thinks that people are stupid. No, the reason people like Obama is that, for the first time in many, many years, we have a candidate that wants us all to get up off of the couch and do something. Sure, he has policies and he has answers. But he doesn’t pretend to assume that we don’t matter. You know, several years ago, we had a President who was really smart and had some great ideas. He also thought that he had all the answers and could do it all himself. His name was Jimmy Carter. Did you like Jimmy Carter? Well, if you did, than Hillary Clinton’s your candidate.

Posted by: Dan | February 19, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

No candidate writes their own speeches -they have speech writers. This is politics. Yes, Obama should have given credit to Patrick but in the end, what does that matter? It is a speech. Let’s talk about healthcare, Iraq, education reform. This is what is important. Obama’s rhetoric should not be the focal point of his whole campaign, go watch a debate! Read up on policices. And to say that this is a morally wrong act only goes back to the fact that almost all speeches are written by someone behind the scenes. This isn’t necessarily a good thing, but it happens nevertheless. So why scrutinize Obama for something that happens throughout all of politics?

Posted by: Sarah | February 19, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

Who is Obama? Does anyone know? Quoting the speeches of great Presidents and truly inspirational men is all he’s offered in his campaign of words — fighting Hillary all the way with passive aggressiveness. What does he think? Great men are remembered for their great speeches. He seem like a follower not a leader, and he’s running for President?
This is n ot the first time that people have followed someone who sounds good, but the Presidency is at stake. Hillary is a capable and tough, woman of proven and solid Experience. She will revamp our broken health care system, and work for peace, and fix a damaged economy in deficit. What is Obama offering accept throw out the old and bring in the new… Does that make any sense? Has a President in the recent past ever been elected with virtually no experience? No! For good reason. Obama is not qualifeid to be President of the USA. A vote for Obama is a vote for McCain.

Posted by: Mark | February 19, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

Obama is offering democrats no experience, no great words that are his own, and no plans for change… Hillary is a proven leader, she will deliver a Universal Health plan which she was the first to champion and she will turn around the deficit economy and work for peace.
Hillary is also tough enough to take McCains blows and still win the Presidency. The Jr. Senator’s quest for the Presidency is over because he’s all hot air.
The things he has said that he’s inspirational — Not true — the great men he quotes were inspirational. He says he represents the new but regurgitates great messages that were already said. If he was a truly great leader he’s make new speeches that other’s could quote with honesty and integrity. He’s not even smart enough to know this would come back to haunt him.
If Clinton faces McCain she is smart enough, and has enough experience and is tough enough to win. Obama is toast and no way can he win in a race against McCain. Now he’s whining she’s being unfair to piint out that Obama delivers words like a leader, but is really saying nothing that is new or his own. He’s a follower, that’s why? This guy is toast. We need a true leader — Hillary Clinton — to face McCain and win./

Posted by: Mark | February 19, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

I think he should just change his future speeches a little. Words, just words – for the first time in my lifetime I am proud of my country – words, just words?

Posted by: jeff | February 19, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

Plagiarism disassembled Sen. Biden’s candidacy…..The press and the media failure to take serious note of Obama’s trespasses including this current one shows a predilection to promote the Sen. from Illinois’ candidacy…. whatever happened to a fair unbiased media.
I will go to church for a sermon……. it won’t solve any problems, but it will make me feel good.

Posted by: R. Salas | February 19, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

It is words so what,Hillary has also “borrowed” speeches and words.She needs to give it up and quit acting like a two year old.I would rather have Obaham’s borrowed speeches then listen to Hillary anyday.

Posted by: sally | February 19, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

Do we learn from one another?Is it not our influences from other’s that help shape us into what we are today? Some of you folks that write on this blog are pathetic.Mostly you Clinton supporters.I would not support her mainly because she does not know how to stand on her own two feet.We see her because she is Bill Clintons wife.Period.You support her because you beleive what she SAYS she will do.This woman does not impress me at all. If you want her …fine. if you don’t like Obama fine. Don’t vote for him. Just shut up with all the negativity.You did not have all this stuff to say about him until it became a headline talking point.Support her and shut up about him.

Posted by: Tony | February 19, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Do we learn from one another? Is it not our influences from other’s that help shape us into what we are today? Some of you folks that write on this blog are pathetic. Mostly you Obama supporters. I would not support him mainly because he does not know how to stand on his own two feet. We see him because he is an empty mind. Period. You support him because you beleive what he SAYS he will do.This man does not impress me at all. If you want him …fine. if you don’t like Hillary fine. Don’t vote for her. Just shut up with all the negativity. You did not have all this stuff to say about her until it became a headline talking point. Support him and shut up about her – Just word?

Posted by: ironroof | February 19, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

The Clinton Campaign Just Now…
February 18, 2008 11:33 AM
In a conference call just now the Clinton campaign would not guarantee that Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, has never used someone else’s rhetoric without crediting them.
I asked Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson and Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass, if they could assure the public that neither Clinton nor McGovern has ever done what Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, did when he used the rhetoric of Gov. Deval Patrick without footnoting him.
They would not.
In fact, Wolfson seemed to say it wouldn’t be as big a deal if it were discovered that Clinton had “lifted” such language.
“Sen. Clinton is not running on the strength of her rhetoric,” Wolfson said.
Hmmmm.
- jpt

Posted by: Bernard | February 19, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

From Wikipedia:
Clinton has been criticized for not giving credit to a ghostwriter in connection with It Takes a Village. The majority of the book was reportedly written by ghostwriter Barbara Feinman. When the book was first announced in April 1995, The New York Times reported publisher Simon & Schuster as saying “The book will actually be written by Barbara Feinman, a journalism professor at Georgetown University in Washington. Ms. Feinman will conduct a series of interviews with Mrs. Clinton, who will help edit the resulting text.”
Feinman spent seven months on the project and was paid $120,000 for her work. Feinman, however, was not mentioned anywhere in the book….
During her promotional tour for the book, Clinton said, “I actually wrote the book … I had to write my own book because I want to stand by every word.” Clinton stated that Feinman assisted in interviews and did some editorial drafting of “connecting paragraphs”, while Clinton herself wrote the final manuscript in longhand.
This led Feinman to complain at the time to Capitol Style magazine over the lack of acknowledgement.[12] In 2001, The Wall Street Journal reported that “New York literary circles are buzzing with vitriol over Sen. Clinton’s refusal, so far, to share credit with any writer who helps on her book.”
Later, in a 2002 article for The Writer’s Chronicle, Barbara Feinman Todd (now using her married name) related that the project with Clinton had gone smoothly, producing drafts in a round-robin style. Feinman agrees that Clinton was involved with the project, but also states that, “Like any first lady, Mrs. Clinton had an extremely hectic schedule and writing a book without assistance would have been logistically impossible.”
Feinman reiterates that her only objection to the whole process was the lack of any acknowledgement. A 2005 Georgetown University web page bio for Barbara Feinman Todd states that It Takes a Village was one of “several high-profile books” that she has “assisted, as editor, writer and researcher

Posted by: Bernard | February 19, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

Obama is not a liar or a cheater. Who cares he used someone else’s speech? He just looks silly like a high school kid running for class president. He never takes responsibility for his actions. I hope all the bone heads who support him will wake up from their trance and see what a pathetic man he is.

Posted by: david | February 19, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

OBAMA IS ALSO STEALING FROM THE IMMIGRANTS’ SLOGAN “SI SE PUEDE” TRANSLATED “YES WE CAN” ANY QUESTIONED THERE? I HAVE A DREAM … TO HOPELESSNESS… SI SE PEUDE TO SPECIAL INTEREST NUCLEAR ENERGY AND REZKO CROOKED WAYS…POOR OBAMA, DOES MOMMY NEED TO HOLD YOUR HANDS…OBAMA COME AND BE TRUTHFUL WHO YOU REALLY ARE? COME OUT OF THE SHEEP CLOTHING AND SHOW YOUR TRUE COLORS…

Posted by: MARINE4EVER | February 19, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

Some winner win by plagerism???
Vote yes or no do you favor Plagerism allowed for Obama??
To be allowed to run for President, just how many times has he and his wife done this??

Posted by: Gloria | February 19, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

um – duh? the ENTIRE excerpt in question was quotes – by OTHER people – and the excerpt was NOT a ‘SPEECH’ ! this was just Patrick, and then Obama, saying ‘WORDS MATTER’, i.e. like THESE words from JFK, King, etc – Obama didn’t plagiarize sh*t – he just said the same TOTALLY OBVIOUS thing that Deval said when HE was similarly attacked – – it was a POINT, a RESPONSE to an attack, an OBVIOUS point, and so entirely lacking in originality that you could hardly ‘plagiarize’ it -

Posted by: Rolf Pechukas | February 19, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

finally, the tarnish is revealed! The man is a hoax!

Posted by: rich | February 19, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm

Obama is scared to take a position on anything. At first I liked how he sounded and early on he supported Single Payer health insurance for all americans, then flip-flopped on that.
He’s the mystery man who sounds good. Like a really good con artist. He’s passive aggressive and cries foul when he is more guilty of swift boating.
This guy is toast. Hillary is the only one with the experience, record of real accomplishments, and toughness to win and get Democrats back in the white house.

Posted by: Mark | February 19, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

Do Democrats want to win or is this all about Obaba? He’s an inexperienced guy, who had a very successful campaign but does not have the experience or talent — at least to date to win against McCain.
Hillary has an imperfect record of accomplishments as all great leaders do but her accomplishments for health, education, human rights and the economy are solid. She will work for peace.
Obama’s game is over. He made a strong effort for someone of so little experience but can not win against McCain. Hillary can win, if we chose Hillary, she will be the next President. A vote for Obama is a vote for McCain.

Posted by: Mark | February 19, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

I just got home everyone waiting in line to vote was chanting obama obama obama
I just got through voting for sen.barack obama in wisconsin

Posted by: IJUSTVOTEDFOROBAMA | February 19, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

no his game is not over

Posted by: IJUSTVOTEDFOROBAMA | February 19, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

Now, Obama’s supporters admitted that he is playing game to win the president chair. Is this a game? Michelle Obama also said in ABC interview that politic is a game. They will try to win the game and let this country drifting away.

Posted by: ironroof | February 19, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

Republicans plagiarize too. John McCain plagiarized Obama’s ‘get fired up’. Recently, John McCain plagiarized Ronald Reagan by telling one of the other candidates “You’re no Ronald Reagan” (when Reagan told Mondale “you’re no Jack Kennedy”.

Posted by: JL | February 19, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

Republicans plagiarize too. John McCain plagiarized Obama’s ‘get fired up’. Recently, John McCain plagiarized Ronald Reagan by telling one of the other candidates “You’re no Ronald Reagan” (when Reagan told Mondale “you’re no Jack Kennedy”.

Posted by: JL | February 19, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

If you have the author’s permission, approximating or copying a couple of phrases from a speech is not illegal or immoral. Especially when it comes to =political= speech writing. Politicians rarely write their own speeches and almost never give credit to their speech writers. But I assume most people understand this. This seems like a convenient opportunity for some folks to bash a campaign they never trusted in the first place.
It takes more than a speech to inspire people — or to galvanize a movement. If all one needed was a good speech writer (or smart friends to borrow phrases from) Hillary Clinton and John McCain would both be much more popular.

Posted by: kb | February 19, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

Obama will fall and I can’t wait to see it happen. He is talking in circles. He talks the talk but will never walk the walk. He is trying to convince himself that he would make a good president. Give up Obama!!!! It won’t happen. When Oprah endorsed you I found it disgusting! You will use anything to get in, won’t you????

Posted by: MisteyM | February 19, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

People believed in Obama that he can unite this country and people around the world. But it is obviously that he could not unite Hillary’s supporters to go behind him and the red states still being red states. Is he failing or he just inflated the word? He gave people the impression that Washington needs to be changed to make his plans to work. But, so far all his plans that he is talking abut did not require he change of Washington and he has not mentioned about it. Is there much of the need to change Washington? Or he is inflating the word “change”? Obama has not talked about how he would change Washington and how it will effect his plans.

Posted by: ironroof | February 19, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

like someone stated before Obama was talking about change from the beginning and now that is Clinton and McCain favorite word so who is stealing words?

Posted by: dbrown | February 19, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

Whether or not Obama plagerized Parick’s words is not the issue. The issue is that his entire campaign is almost IDENTICAL to that of Patrick: Same Manager: Axelrod, Same profile: both black, from South side of Chicgo, both outstanding Harvard law School Graduates. Both charismatic and brilliant orators/campaigners. Both used words like “Hope”, “Change”, Not Politics as Usual” “Reaching accross Party Lines”,”Uniting”etc.. The Obama campaign slogan is even identical to Deval’s: “Yes We Can”..
And Deval had the same effect on people. We were carried away with the notion of a new kind of leader.
Well, it was all WORDS. Nothing has changed. Its Politics as usual, and Patrick has achieved little besides pushing very aggressively for the development of casinos in Massachusetts.
That is not to say Obama will be a Patrick in a larger context, but for me it raises serious questions.
Its clear that this is a blueprint from Axekrod.The the Axelrod script in the theater of Electability.
One has to wonder about the “truth” and perhaps its time to ask: “Who IS Barak Obama anyway and why should he be President?”

Posted by: tessa Gordon | February 19, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm

Wow, there are some really mean-spirited posts here. I always wondered what happened to the politics-of-hate constituency of the right wing. Many of them are the same Clinton-haters from the 90′s who are now so consumed with their hatred of the Clintons,they’ve moved over to the Obama camp, the most liberal candidate in the Senate.

Posted by: RJ | February 19, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

My neighbor took a class from Obama at the Univ of Chicago Law School. He said he was the most brilliant legal analyst in the law school, AND by far, the most inspiring professor. His first book was written before he was famous. No ghost writer (unlike most politicans). Just a totally brilliant mind, on a par with Churchill.

Posted by: ABH (Anybody But Hillary) | February 19, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

Obama sucks in my book stealing other peoples speeches ,that means to me that he can’t come up with his own speeches,and he also cheats alot, its pathetic.At least Hillary uses her own speeches.What gets me mad is when they project a winner before the votes are in, it takes the fun out it.

Posted by: Linda | February 19, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

Carlos
I agree with you 100 percent ,I will also go republican too if Obama win the nomination.Imagin Obama being the President and can’t even come up with his own ideas we’re all going to be in trouble.

Posted by: Linda | February 19, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

I mis-spelled “speeches” earlier. But that reminds me of one more reason I can no longer tolerate Hillary. She never admits her mistakes! Ugly!

Posted by: Sam | February 19, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

Both candidates have been campaigning for a long time. I see no problem or issue with Obama or Hilary using excerpts from another’s speech if it fits the moment. I do agree that this country needs change but with change comes sacrifice from the American people. Obama inspires people to want to change for the better beliving that nothing is impossible. With inspiration comes hope, with inspiration comes action. They say Obama is only about words. Well, it will be these words that will inspire a nation to become more involve in changing itself. It worked for JFK and MLK and it will work with Obama. Obama transcends America and I think that this will be important in improving the US economy and the global economy.

Posted by: Rudolph | February 20, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am

So Obama was inspired and believed in the words of his friend — doesn’t everyone repeat things that they hear that touches them? And how many different ways are there to say the same thing? Someone in an earlier post pointed out that most political figures have someone to write their speeches. This is no big deal. How does anyone ever know if someone else has said what you are saying now? The worry of plagiarizing is so ridiculous anyway but one doesn’t always know. Who cares if someone else said it first? John F. Kennedy didn’t write his famous speech so it really wasn’t his words. Who cares?

Posted by: RathaBHome | February 20, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am

Well said, Rudolph!

Posted by: RathaBHome | February 20, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am

“An eye for an eye, and the whole world would be blind” is attributed to Gandhi, in reality it is of Khalil Jibran, the Lebanese writer/poet.
By repeating Khalil Jibran’s quote didn’t make Gandhi less of the person he was.
Its the person behind the words that matter.

Posted by: sal | February 20, 2008, 4:32 am 4:32 am

The clinton campaign is getting desperate. They should be careful, their hypocracy is showing.

Posted by: Lana | February 20, 2008, 4:51 am 4:51 am

If you ask me it seems that the Clinton Campaign are the ones who are just all about words. Its ashame that she has to stoop to such low measures to try to win against a opponet, but i guess that thats just politics. If i cited every person that i ever used a phrase from i would still be citing. Clinton needs to understand everyone see’s her for who she really is. A despertate liar!!!
…..Obama 08

Posted by: Laura | February 20, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am

….
Why do you people care about this BS?
At this point in the game, Obama is starting to come out on top. Naturally, his opponents are going to start hitting him where it hurts. That means, they(being the Clinton and McCain camps) are going to start trying to hit him on his inexperience(which I don’t see a problem with seeing as how the longer these guys are in DC the more they become a part of the institution) and they are going to try and destroy his credibility. So you have to look at this in two ways: one, is his lack of “Washington” experience really a detriment to him as a Presidential Candidate; and two, does this trumped up Plagarism charge destroy his credibility. On point one, I argue that given his experience prior to his election to the US Senate, he still has plenty of experience(and MUCH less connection to Lobbyists than his two Opponents. Did you know Hillary has taken more money from Pharmaceutical Lobbyists than any other Democrat?)to work from. Not to mention,I’m pretty sure he’s older than Bill Clinton was when he was elected. And on the second point, He did NOT steal a speech from Gov. Patrick. Saying he did shows you didn’t really understand what you read in this article. Furthermore, it is a moot point because it doesn’t show any “real” underhandedness at all. Did he do an injustice to Gov. Patrick? No, in fact Patrick and him are buddies. They bounce ideas off of eachother. This is a political move made by the Clintons to try and turn off some Obama Supporters because his momentum is pretty much owning Hillary. 10 elections in a row have gone to Obama, and the Clintons and their supporters(because not all of it is directly stemming from just Hillary and Bill) need whatever they can get to slow that momentum down. In short, welcome to the game of political rhetoric. But if you’re gonna get pissed about something, look at the candidates issues. Because it seems to me if it falls down to credibility, Hillary has alot more skeletons in her closet than the Grass Roots Obama Campaign.

Posted by: Josh | February 20, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

He said he “probably should have” given credit for a friend’s speech. He said his wife’s recent mistake was “no big deal”. Why not just apologize? He sounds like a politician to me.

Posted by: jj | February 21, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

I lost respect for Obama when he brushed aside those charges of plagiarism as simply unimportant because that says a lot of the man. Plagiarism is theft. Any student knows that. Authors fight against plagiarism and their associations stress ethics and standards against it. So I don’t know what is more disturbing – that a presidencial candidate is too stupid to quote a source or that it doesn’t matter to him even if it is a theft, making his ethics suspect. Lets inspire our children to use the “Obama defense” when they get in trouble in college with charges of plagiarism. Now they can say they borrowed the paper from a friend but he gave them permission. But I have a feeling that’s not going to fly because we demand more of a children than a presidencial candidate. Unbelievable!
I know Obama walks on water. I know he is winning the popularity vote. Women scream and faint in his presence. They scream, “I love you” as if he were a rockstar, but even if Oprah offers a car, I need some standards and ethics from a president. I wish Obama would have had the humility to apologize or just say that it was wrong and move on. But he didn’t. And I’m sorry, but that is very wrong. I’m so dissapointed.

Posted by: Gillian | February 22, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

It’s interesting Hillary is calling Obama on plagiarism, when the line she got a standing ovation for at the Austin debate last night was very reminiscent of a comment made by her husband Bill Clinton during his 1992 campaign.
Her words: “You know, the hits I’ve taken in life are nothing compared to what goes on every single day in the lives of people across our country.”
His words: “The hits that I took in this election are nothing compared to the hits that the people of this state and country are taking every day of their lives under this administration.”
This quote is taken from Bill Clinton’s “The Man from Hope” campaign video and occurs at around 7 minutes into the video.

Posted by: corinnew | February 22, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

The demo’s Clinton and Ombama are talking about seriously doing damage to NAFTA re Canada and Mexico. Perhaps we need to remind them that the second highest supplier of OIL to the USA is Canada, Canada is fighting with great losses with the USA in AFN, and Canada has an abundant supply of natural resources including water and lumber. Duties and protectionism work both ways to increase gas prices, goods in the stores, etc. for everyone. This campaign promise reeks of shallow thinking. Think again!

Posted by: northofsouth | March 2, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

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