Obama: Clinton Divides America

Obama’s true side is coming out. Apparently he is still confused about who he is running against, because he keeps refrencing Bill instead of Hillary. Hillary has been a champion of the people, which is why her support remains as strong as his. Caucuses are now done, and his rallies and hype have undoubtedly achieved all that they are going to. If there is ever a time that Hillary will pull ahead it is now. Obama is now using these smear tactics as well as making a not very well thought out argument about superdelegates (I loved Hillary’s respons “If he chooses to press this I look forward to receiving Senator Kerry and Senator Kennedy’s endorsements” lets not forget she would also get the superdelegates from CA and NY) and will do anything else to scrape on to victory. However, as of now Hillary is still in the lead, and I have a feeling that lead is going to start to grow.

I thought Obama didn’t like personal politics??? Sounds pretty personal to me!

Ryan what a crock of BS that you spew!!!
senator clinton’s lead is gonna increase? what planet are you living on? as it stands now, the way Obama is just blowing her away, the BEST hillary can do is a DRAW going into the convention and that includes your so called super delegates. some of you don’t understand the concept of the super delegates, they can change their mind anytime to reflect the will of the voters and from the way Hillary is being blown off left and right, if you are supporter of Hillary you should be seriously worried. this is the TRUTH take it and you help your self, ignore it and you are preparing for your OBITUARY.

Sorry Hillary fans. Can’t have your cake and eat it too. If she’s going to run (incredulously) on Bill’s record then she also inherits his failings. Now if you’re willing to sacrifice the record, we can talk, in which case she’s less experienced than Obama.

Well….Mr. Obama has finally come to be what we all expected: A typical politician! If he does this one more time, I will NEVER vote for him. I voted for him in Illinois but I can assure you that this divisiveness better stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is precisely the kind of campaign tactic George Bush used in 2000. Gore was demonized as unlikable and Bush was labeled as the kind of guy you want to have a beer with. We have a presidential system the elects the most effective campaigner while dismissing the most competent. Obama is bereft of ideas. He is not a new kind of politician- he is just better at it. If he wins the nomination, I vote for McCain.

Is this not what Obama is doing to the Democratic party too?

This guy is the biggest fraud I have ever seen. First he’s talking about change, and then he attaches himself to that fat hypocrite who family still wants to be relevant…Ted Kennedy. He is the only candidate I would not vote for in 2008. The media has made him out to be some superstar, but this is an election for President of the US, not for most popular student. Furthermore can any Obama supporter tell me what state Obama would win that Kerry didn’t win in 2004? What a disgrace.

Not so sure the above arguments are valid – If Hillary is such a wonderful person dedicated to the poor, then where in the heck did she get the $5 million of her and I quote “personal” funds? Why won’t she show us her tax return? What does one year of working for the children’s defense fund and then working as a corporate lawyer have to do with experience? Not so sure sitting on the board of Walmart, hiring illegals is the experience I want in the White House…

Barack Obama represents the ideas set forth in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and espoused in the Pledge Of Allegiance. It’s even on our money: E Pluribus Unum – Out of the many, One.
We are a diverse and heterogenous people. We have lots of different religions, races, identities, lifestyles and origins. Yet we can live, work, worship, and serve together peacefully provided we follow a few simple principles. Obama says that one of those principles has always been that we care for our fellows. That if a child in Baltimore can’t read, that hurts me even if it’s not my child. That if a senior citizen in Roanoke can’t afford her medication, that hurts me even if she’s not my Grandma. That I am my Brother’s keeper, my Sister’s keeper.
It’s a fundamental principle that the earliest colonies adopted upon reaching our shores, and it applies today. That freedom and opportunity for all must be our goal if we are to survive the threats we inevitably face. There will always be some group that threatens us, some looming worry. But if we give up on the idea that we’re all in this together and opt for survival of the few, then the threat is greater from within.
“As you do for the least of these…..”

Obama is correct. And Ryan (post 9:02) whether Hillary says it’s HER campaign or not, and whether Bill says HE will not be having input in her decisions, there are millions of people who just don’t like the Clintons and don’t believe them. Hillary is far too polarizing and it started long ago. Her ‘with me or agin me’ attitude, and Bill’s down-right lies (on Saturday ‘quoted’ Obama on something Obama never said)do not sit well with a lot of voters who are still deciding. That’s why she is beginning to lose primaries she was certain she would win.
She has a lot of women in her camp who vote for her for no other reason than she is a woman and ‘it’s time for a woman (or a Black, Chinese, Hispanic, Morman, Irishman, etc.) to be President’ . But there are a lot of us who remember how she uses her gender as a ‘tool’ and flip flops all over the place. Yes, she is a strong woman. But in response to criticism about her role as First Lady during Bill’s Presidency, she said, “Well, I could have stayed home and baked cookies, but I decided to have a career instead.” She angered a lot of stay-at-home Moms with that one, and she has yet to learn that “staying home and baking cookies” and “going out and having a career” are not mutually exclusive.
She polarizes because she uses ‘my way or the highway’ strategies. She polarizes because she says one thing and does the other; because she will NEVER admit she’s made a mistake; she even ignored the voters who DID vote for her over the week-end by not even acknowledging that she lost all primaries and caucases, not to mention congratulating Obama on his wins. I would rather not have this candidate as President because she cannot and will not unite the country. Obama is correct.

“Obama says that one of those principles has always been that we care for our fellows. That if a child in Baltimore can’t read, that hurts me even if it’s not my child. That if a senior citizen in Roanoke can’t afford her medication, that hurts me even if she’s not my Grandma. That I am my Brother’s keeper, my Sister’s keeper.”
THEN WHY DOESN’T IT HURT OBAMA AND YOU CULT MEMBERS WHEN PEOPLE IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN CANNOT HAVE THEIR VOTES COUNTED?????????????

It’s amazing that Obama supporters seem oblivious to strategy… maybe that is why they are against experience? I remember on Super Tuesday when Hillary’s camp won all of the states they predicted the report was “oh well, nothing special, they thought as much,” however, this weekend, when they also predict they will loose the reply is “oh they can spin as much as they want to but they’re in trouble!” Obama hasn’t taken away anything that Hillary didn’t anticipate. If anything, she is set up. If he tries to push the superdelegates, she’ll win out still by having the big states. There’s also the matter of Michigan and Florida to settle. She has a record of holding her ground, and that ground is now Texas and Ohio, which will be the true show of battle. Plus, caucuses are now over. Hillary is well positioned, and Obama supporters might now want to be to quick to claim victory just yet.
I for one don’t want I rally, I want a convesation. I don’t want another idealist, I want a realist. Bush won his first term with playing of the sentiment of faith and family values, and his second (a defeat to Obama endorser Kerry) by exploiting our fear. I have no interest in more rhetoric about “hope” or other sentiments when there is no substance.

This was going to be sarcastic…but I’ve been on message boards and articles all night and I’m getting off of work.
I think Hillary isn’t being given the credit she deserves. She’s got a liberal voting record that’s actually less liberal than Obama’s, and she has occasionally reached across the aisle, but she does it because she needs to. People don’t understand that the issues she works with democrats on, aren’t huge legislative issues that need so much coobberation. They’re simple things that no republican needs to worry they’re broken or lovely evangelical or conservative family over.
There is so much more dividing that Obama is doing to win that it’s borderline asinine because it’s so hypocrtical. I really hope he doesn’t sell short. By the looks of it now, his color isn’t what it seems.

Guys,
Both Clinton and Obama are excellent talented candidates. Unfortunate as it is, fully detailed plans to fix all complex problems facing America should not be expected in a campaign. All one gets is the basic appraoch. The real challenge to either is McCain, who has been baptised by the primaries to be a born-again Bushite. It is frightening to hear that he will make a good commander-in-chief who spends troups into a war with no justification, wants to hang in there for 100 years and keeps saying the economy will “somehow” work out.

Hillary changed the rules with Michigan and Florida??? But wait… isn’t that what Barak wants to do with Super Delegates (as long as he’s not leading in them…)??

Ryan…Hillary signed a pledge (along with Edwards and Obama) saying the FL and MI delegates wouldn’t count. The democratic Parties of MI and FL were told they could hold caucuses if they want the voters of their states to have their delegates seated. Both states so far have declined. When Obama says that the Superdelegates need to vote with how their constituents voted is not the same thing. He’s saying that they should vote how the people they represent voted. He understands that he will lose some superdelegates like those from MA. He will also gain many in the states he won but the superdelegates already committed to Hillary. If you are objective you would see that what he’s saying is fair. He also said that if one candidate has more of the popular vote and more delegates then that person should get the nomination. I think the American people, no matter who they are for would agree with that.

The Hillary supporters are getting even more shrill. Obamam speaks the truth.

Whether you like it or not, tremendous good for the American people came out of having a centrist Democratic President (Bill Clinton) and a republican congress. Spending was kept in check, while well-planned good social programs, energy and environmental programs were put into place. I find the Obama flyer to be extremely misleading, inaccurate and offensive. His is not a campaign of hope, it is a mirror of the republican hate machine aimed at creating non-issues to avoid talking about real issues. Too bad many of his supporters buy it hook, line and sinker.

One of the only reasons that we are having this discussion, is that HRC’s path has been greased for her by her husband and his cronies. Don’t get me wrong I think that she is a brilliant senator and legislator. The job of the president, however, is not to legislate.
What happened to the respect for using those good old American boot straps?

Ryan,
Most of Obama’s wins are in black states or in caucuses which do not represent the voters of those states. They are simply to people with too much time on their hands like students and the unemployed, not working people.
He will win VA, DC, and MD due to the
large black populations.
Florida and Michigan -over 2 million voters. more people than in these little tiny caucusues combined.

One has to laugh at the claim that Hillary and the Clintons are brilliant. They are third rate intellects at best. They have proven themselves crafty and willing to sell out for pardons or brides for their library/condo in Arkansas. Great posers.
This blog is evidence to the Clinton divisiveness. I am hoping that America wakes up to them before they get another chance to sell us out again to Mexico, the Chinese, Indonesia, etc.

Rachel: Your post is right. Except I would replace ‘Hillary’ for Obama. And I would never vote for Hillary, so I guess we’ll just cancel out each other’s vote.

I love that people are posting that Obama’s wins are all black states – like Washington, Kansas, and Iowa. I see that CNN is doing its part to promote that idea.
This attack is straight from Bill Clinton. Pathetic and shameful for both Bill and Hillary – and not smart.
Obama has created a ground swell from his impressive oratory and vision of hope for all.

So Obama is not about the people. We see the truth. He couldn’t give a rat’s behind about millions in Florida and Michigan. Change, schmange. what a phony.

Spock:
You don’t know any of Obama’s ideas? I don’t believe you’ve looked. Obama has some very solid ideas. So does CLinton. If you visit Obama’s website, you find plenty to look over and consider.
Is he really a Muslim? Please, tell us more. Documentation, witnesses, first-hand acounts of Obama at his prayer rug facing Mecca in his Senate office.
If you really believe it, show us the mounting evidence that convinced you.
Educate us.

One of the big changes that Obama would bring is relief from the Clinton divisiveness.
Look at this blog. This is the trail that the Clintons propose for America – devoid of hope.

Essentially Obama is saying the superdelegates should not be allowed to vote, simply vote according to primary and caucus outcomes. That is foolish. Why have superdelegates at all?

Geevil, your contention that caucus-goers are unemployed people, students, and people “with nothing to do” is factually incorrect.
I haven’t seen the caucus demographics which report picture you describe. Which one’s are you referring to? Please share them with us, because I find this news about caucuses disturbing.
You almost dismissively state that Obama does well in large plack population centers. He also swept Washingtong State, Nebraska and Main.
Painting him as someone who only appeals to black populations flies in the face of all evidence.

It’s true Obama seems inexperienced,but what kind of experience do people want? People need to start questioning Congress. Why is it that we have a Democratic majority in House, but Bush keeps on getting more money to spend on the war and congress does nothing? Hillary was all for Free health care when Bill started his first term, now Hillary wants mandatory health insurance? Why is it that Bush lied us into war, but none of the Democrats want to do anything about that? Hillary would have been a good candidate if she was the same person when Bill first came into Office. She is has become like every other politician. I think Obama is fresh and some what untainted yet. I’d take the lesser of 2 evils any day. Didn’t Hillary vote for the Iraq war? how much did her experience help her there?

Kansas
Results Obama 27,172
Florida
Results
Clinton 857,208
27,172 voters in Kansas have a say while 857,208 are silenced?

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Its hard to belive, obama got this far with no experience — In 2004 got elected Senate in and Delivered keynote address- Nothing more other than he can inspire but dont you think we need more than this
Obam’s whole campaign is based on nothing but hype and fluff..

Ryan,
Hillary claimed on public radio that the “everyone knows the Michigan delegates will not be seated.” She will go to any length to gain an advantage, even breaking a rule that she had previously agreed with. Obama’s suggestion that superdelegates reflect the will of the people of a state is not the breaking of a rule, rather a reasonable view of the democratic process.

Clinton divides america? Clinton bad for the Dem party? whatever.
The most popular president since Kennedy is bad for the Dem party? the Hundreds of Millions hes helped raise for the Dems including Barack is bad for the party? The first president in decades to fight for minorities like Barack and help for equality and education so Barack could be where he is now is bad for the Dem party? Obama is off his rocker now.
Dividing America is what Obama has done to the Democratic party period.
He knew just by Running he would divide a previously united Democratic constituency into 2 factions.
If this was his best shot to be president then he shouldnt be running. Because if he is so great he could have gotten elected after Hillary had 2 terms and Reversed all the damage the Bush inflicted on us after Dubya reversed all the good times Bill gave us in the 90s.
Barack knew that he would dominate the black vote and that Hillary would dominate the female vote, and those are two of the biggest sections of the Democratic party. He made this into a racial and Gender issue across the board by running and he knew this would happen. Now we have a guy that has promised everything and will deliver nothing. The Dems always find a way to unite the GOP and screw up their chances at getting anything done

If somehow the Cult leader gets the nomination I will be part of the “Democrats for McCain” movement.

The clintonites are out in full force today. Squealing like stuck pigs! A pledge made in the early days of the primary proves inconvenient and the clintons want to change the rules. The voters in both states should be counted when they have a caucus [states pay for primaries-the party pays for caucus]which the party denied them in a fit of petulant temper. Interesting that all 3 of the DNC Credentials Committee members are ex-clinton appointees!!!!
Super-delegates were put in place to bring balance but quickly turned into the same old ‘boss’ politics they were supposed to prevent. Many are bought by promised ambassidoorships, pet project dollars,suppression of slander, even sleepover access [linclon bedroom style], appointments for relatives, internships for their children[which may be a bad thing for hillary]

Popular vote? The ignorance of some Cult of Obama members is striking. These caucuses do not represent the popular vote. Plus Republicans and Independents voters should not count.
The popluar votes of Michigan and Florida should count? NY,NJ,MA,CA. big popular vote totals.

Additionally, the charges about how the Dems lost congressional seats and governorships, is bogus as well. In fact, the GOP and the media has been heralding and trumpeting their long term strategy that started in the late 80s when Bush Sr. took the White house.
Gingrich and his GOP faction started what Delay and Rove continued in the late 90s.
Their power grabs and reorganization of the RNC to character assassinate every Democrat and force false accusations and level hateful-self righteous right wing propaganda at them worked like a charm and it was this strategy that had damaged congress by unseating dems and placing Pubs.
And the Dem party still stinks at getting anything done, the only reason they took back COngress is because of the Buffoonery and incompetence of the GOP all this time.
Barack spends as much time complementing the GOP and giving them props as he does downing the Clintons and their legacy and the democratic party. He should run as a Libertarian.

What rules did hillary break? I live in Florida and the only times Hillary showed up down here were for private fundraisers, just as much as Obama did. Yeah, he was here too, but the media doesn’t report him in Tampa, Orlando, Sarasota, Miami, Ft Lauderdale, they only seem to report on Hillary.
The media also fails to mention that not a single Hillary Clinton ad appeared on TV down here, but not so for Obama. His national ads were splashed all over. Hillary waited until the primary was over before she aired national ads.
Obama is full of lies and disinformation. He accuses the Clintons of dirty politcs while he does the same. And I’ll tell ya if he thinks Clinton’s campaign is tough then he really is NOT ready for the general election. The Republicans will eat him alive if he thinks Clinton is bad.

Look, I’d like to vote for Obama, he sure has the gift of inspiring people, but what national crisis has he ever faced? Important question. We saw what happened when Bush Jr. faced 9/11–he lost his marbles.
And why are we not seeing any attempt at quantifying how much of his support comes from Clinton-hating Republicans who are ‘Democrats’ just long enough to cast a vote or answer a poll question?

Oh come on Tom. To suggest that she can’t manage the finances of her own campaign, ergo she can’t manage a national economy is ridiculous. She simply had a strategy to win as soon as possible, and front-loaded her spending, as all rational people would have. NO ONE, (and even Barack has said this), could have foreseen the sudden rise of her opponent. This has nothing to do with budgetary spending, etc.
People are becoming way too deferential to Obama way too quickly. This man obviously isn’t a shyster or snake oil salesman, but people are consistently focusing on his charisma, his eloquence, and his consequent electability to the exclusion of his politics – not “yes we can” rhetoric, but his actual plan for this country. Does anyone remember the exit polls from the 2000 and 2004 elections? One of the main reasons George Bush was elected was because people thought they could sit down and have a beer with him (read: CHARISMA). How did that turn out for yas? We can chant all we want, but it takes more to effect change in Washington.

Repubs must be loving how the democrats are doing what they do best… tearing each other apart. Obama is no different either, his campaigning that Hillary is divisive is in fact DIVISIVE within the Democratic party. This is pure stupidity.

Rick Johnson,
You could say that Hillary is surreptitiously sending out “attack dogs”; or could say, since she’s clamoring for weekly debates between her and Obama, it is actually her who is being as transparent as possible.

At the time of the Carter/Regan/Anderson election, people supporting different candidates could actually exchange views. Now, many people avoid talking politics for fear of offending some one or damaging a relationship. That STINKS. Democracy doesn’t work unless there is dialogue. I think Obama is fairly pointing out facts that substantiate what a lot of people perceive in the Clintons: that they are cynically divisive and deceptive to advance their own political agenda in a way that has hurt and divided the nation. Repeatedly, I hear measured, fact-based arguments coming from Obama and the stunningly artful presentation of nominal facts in a grossly misleading way by the Clintons. It is tough to get past the feeling that you’re being lied to by the Clintons. On an ABC interview with Cynthia McFadden, Hillary was shown a clip of her saying “I have been four months on the receiving end of rather consistent attacks. Well, now
the fun part starts.” When asked what she meant by the “fun part”, she replied “the fun part is when people start to make up their minds. You know, when you could see voters begin to really resolve who they’re going to be for.” Anyone looking at the clip could see she meant “hit back”. No big deal. Yet, Hillary for whatever reason didn’t want that message out there at that time, so she respun it. It is this consistent display of deceptive instincts that trouble (and anger) many people.

Obama only wants super delegates to vote if he is the one who gets them. If he gets the nomination I for one will be another Democrat not voting for him. While I cannot a this point bring myself to vote for Mr. Wishy Washy McCain I can sit it out. I will also be through with the Democratic party. The bigger problem here is how we have let state and non-elected officials decide everything for us. The whole caucus thing is ridiculous, a small group of people voting in a controlled environment during a very limited time frame is outright dumb. Another example is the idea of letting independents vote in a democratic primary is stupid. They are just as likely to vote republican in the general election despite what Obama says. He has no empirical proof that they will vote for him. The Hillary haters are obviously people with other issues and might do better enrolling in a 12 step program.

TED,
The national crisis OBAMA faces is the one created by your goon squad and their cash collecting contractor brigade, you likely supported(TWICE).
Bush lost his marbles on 911 but more importantly, he lost OUR marbles.
Games over, clown, you best hope Obama wins and many of us care about helping your recovery.
Here is another CATEYE so you can get back in the marbles game!!!!

Bush gave us change, are you happy?

As some of you may remember,in Super Tuesday’s Democratic primaries and caucuses, Latinos participated in higher numbers than expected (just like in Florida), and gave Hillary Clinton their support by the outstanding margin of 75% (this is also what gave her the edge in Nevada). When we study the exit polling in States where Latinos are a large part of the population, you will discover that they affirmed, with a 15% margin, that they would “never vote for a Black candidate (Obama)”
How is the Obama going to unite the latinos?

I don’t vote until May in my state of NC. Usually by then, the nomination is already decided. Does that make me disenfranchised?

Obama plays dirty politics. He’s attacking his own party therefore HE is not good for Democrats. He’s not a uniter if he’s attacking his own team. He’s a hot shot with a weak platform, weak positions, weak policy so he’s attacking the very person with strong positions and strong policy – the only candidate capabale of making change.
Furthermore, last time I checked, the house and senate have a DEMOCRATIC majority and they will in 2009. So what’s his point again?
And last time I checked, Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton are not the same person. So stop comparing Hillary’s campaign to Bill’s Presidency. They are not one in the same.
This guy is a jerk. He runs his campaign like George Bush and other dirty self-interested often republican politicians.

Kenn Chaplin,
My comment was a complement for your great country. I lived in Ottawa for 15 years, I love many things in Canada, and Universal Health Care is one, and the Rideau Canal is another.
Take care,
James

Friends:Not since the days of Truman, have we faced a more difficult and turbulent time in our history.We are in two wars,one which is justified and the other not, there are fanatical terrorists who are out to destroy our dream, our borders are insecure, the economy is in a shambles,the Chinese and the Arabs are bailing out our corporate giants,the dollar is so worthless that middle class Americans such as me can’t afford to travel abroad,our people are losing their biggest asset which is their home, we have a health care crisis which is on the verge of collapse, the number of uninsured or underinsured Americans are about 50 percent of the population, we are beholden to the oil states and the sheiks, and our environment is falling apart. We have to think carefully about whom we elect as our next president.We should not be carried away by our hearts and use our minds at this crucial juncture.For me, there is only one candidate who can deal with our multitude of problems and that is Hillary. She is a strong and courageous woman who has withstood assaults on personality, character, family, sex, name it whatever.She has a track record for strong work ethic and over the past 8 years in the senate, she has shown that she can work across party lines to negotiate and achieve a consensus. To those who believe that a single person can bring about change that is foolhardy.Our forefathers have created a great system of pride for all of us with the three arms of the government which bring about the checks and balances which protect all of us.Hillary has been at the forefront in the battle for civic rights, children’s and women’s rights, abused children and women, families (“It takes a Village”) and health care.You can blame her for all you want,but she battled to keep her family intact after the Monica scandal.

Janet says, “I don’t know if they are just uneducated or are deliberately trying to divide the Democrats”
Janet,
For your information this educated male with a Ph.D supports Hillary Clinton and very proud of it.

If you want to live in a country where the working man supports all who decide not to work, and live off government programs. Then the Democratic Party should be your first choice. Hillieary and Obama are for big tax’s social health programs and socialistic government. McCain say’s he will make the Bush tax cuts permanent, lower government expenses, support needed government programs and help the needy obtain private health care, secure our borders, and become oil independent. But can he be trusted, he voted against every effort Bush made to make these changes happen. Who can be trusted??

It’s just the truth. I well remember how the Republicans swept every electable office after all the Clinton investigations and sexual escapades.
History tends to repeat itself so for God’s sake let’s not put them back in office.

As a latino, If I have to choose between MaCain and Obama I will vote for MaCain in a hearbeat.
Good luck

Peter…I have no problem with you supporting Hillary Clinton. My problem is with people putting lies in their blogs about Obama. If you are the “Peter” who posted “Obama refused to debate Hillary” then I have a problem with you. Obama and Clinton have scheduled, I believe, 4 more debates. So there is no truth to that statement. If you aren’t the “Peter” who posted that lie then I don’t have any problem with you whatsoever. This is a Democratic country so you are welcome to vote for whoever you want.

As black person, these are few of my reasons why I will vote for Obama.
1. His candidacy is being used to claim that racism in America is essentially dead, killing the need for programs such as Affirmative Action and along with it civil rights leaders like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. If you Google Obama and Race or if you listen to analyst on News programs, it’s obvious that Obama’s strong showing is being used to slam the door on the issue of race in America. Some entities want you to believe a fallacy of composition by suggesting to you that because some whites vote or support Obama that such serves as vouchers for the remainder of whites. Thus, if 20% of voting age white America is willing to vote for Obama, how does that logically imply that the remaining 80% who don’t are not potentially or in fact racist? How does a white person voting for Obama mean that I will not be racially profiled and pulled over by a white cop? How does that mean that I will not get denied a job by the hiring manager of a company, due to the fact that I am black? How does that mean I will not be charged a higher interest rate for a loan than an equally qualified white? How does that mean I will not be followed around and watched at an upscale store? How does that mean that I will not have a noose hung at my office? To suggest that because some whites are not racist it demonstrates that all whites are not racist is as absurd as suggesting that because some whites are racist that all are.
2. There is a high possibility that America will sink into the worst economic recession since the Great Depression in the next 5 years. If there is a black President in office, it will be seen subconsciously or consciously as the fault of the President. There are so many ominous economic signs such as a falling dollar, rising consumer and government debt, trade deficits, the loss of comparative advantage, outsourcing, high oil prices; inflation….the list goes on and on. There is no monetary of fiscal policy which will solve these problems. Our nation simply consumes more than it produces via our borrowing growth far exceeding our income growth. The American economy or GDP needs a downward correction so that consumption falls in line with production and our spending is based upon what we have earned and not what we borrow. Attempting to hold this off via monetary and fiscal policy, especially the former, makes the correction that much worse when it is forced upon us in the form of a deep recession or depression. As a Michigander, I witnessed the Decline of Detroit proper nearly totally blamed on Black leadership, and not the declining fortunes of the Auto Industry that gave it life.
3. His platform of “change” has little substance. Obama is popular because he gives great speeches about a vision for a different America. Yet, he has not explained how he has the power to essentially change the “System”. The only thing that he really has the power to change is the perception that a black people are hindered by race in America and or its corollary that whites in America are racist. Obama has not been asked many tough questions, especially questions with racial overtones. Such questions and his response to those questions will have a seesaw effect. His response will increase his support among blacks, but lower it among whites or increase it among whites but lower it among blacks. The only answer that will have a neutral effect is to avoid answering the question and simply use a slogan such as “Change” or “Working together” or “Getting along”. That way each side can interpret it as getting the other side to see things their way. In reality, however, in a representative republic such as our, the interest or side that will be favored is the majority rule, which is the side of whites.
4. John Edwards was the best choice for the Democrats based upon empirical evidence. Southern white males have been the formula for defeating the “Southern Strength” of the Republican Party. Johnson, Carter and Clinton were the only democrats to win office since Kennedy. Politics changed drastically after the Civil Rights laws were passed in the 60’s and many Southern whites left the Democratic Party and joined the Republican Party as a result of democratic support for desegregation. Every since then, it has taken a Southern white male Democrat to win the presidency. Also, the best candidate for Democrats should be in sync with the Democratic candidate that Republicans despise the most, which is Clinton. I cannot help but use the analogy of how much Martin Luther King and Malcolm X were hated by whites in their time. The blacks that whites hated and feared the most were the blacks that were the best for our struggle. It may be true, following the same reasoning, that the Democrat most hated by Republicans is the Democrat best for liberals.
5. It’s easier for a white person in power to do the right thing towards blacks than it will be for a black person to do so. Unfortunately, it is often the case that when a black person is elevated to a position of power from a predominantly white source, they become harder on blacks. It maybe the case that they do not want to appear that they are showing favoritism towards blacks when their position of power is by virtue of whites. They may subconsciously feel that they must not only represent the white way of thinking, but must over compensate to demonstrate that way of thinking. They don’t want to risk alienating or angering the hand that is feeding their political viability. Consequently, a black person put in power by the white majority can often be the least likely to fight for policies that help the black masses. It’s tempting to fantasize that a black candidate can sneak into office by telling whites what they want to hear and then get into office and become a zealous advocate of black causes. However, there are to many checks and balances for that and power is so addictive that the office holder will not want to risk it, lest they or their party not be reelected.

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Its hard to belive, obama got this far with no experience — In 2004 got elected Senate in and Delivered keynote address- Nothing more other than he can inspire but dont you think we need more than this
Obam’s whole campaign is based on nothing but hype and fluff..

Sounds like Obama is using the flawed wisdom of Kennedy and Kerry. Have they forgotten how the religious right, Newt Gingrich, Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson sought to demonize the Clintons and the Democrats? In spite of all their deplorable behavior and hatred spin, Bill Clinton had a very successful presidency. Are Kennedy and Kerry having a few sour grapes because a moderate and a southern white man like Clinton was able to be elected president and they were not? How quickly people forget or do not even know the history of the political landscape. Hillary Clinton is the best prepared candidate with experience and intelligence to be President. Learn a little history!
Geo

Notice how Obama worshippers are so polarizing.
Who can imagine the outrage should the media reference Obama’s daughter’s with pimps????
Everyone knows MSNBC is trying to give the election to this untested Manta.
Ooooooh, he’s so inspiring. Not!
Remember how long it took Clinton’s to understand how to effectively legislate when he 1st came to office.
Obama doesn’t have a clue nor has he been vetted.
Get real America!

Obamas camp continues to “paint” Hillary supporters as “simpletons and racists” as they described their Obama supporters as “higher-income”, higher-educated, better-informed” … Sounds more like a “divise” form of politics than one of “I love you back.”
Obama is injecting the division.
This campaign season is starting to remind me of a book titled, “The Pimp & Prostitute” method of leadership.
Ironically, It appears that in the end, Euro-American males may be the deciding factor when the votes are counted in the general election.
Love you Back… Barack.

Since none of you guys are out volunteering for either the Hillary or Obama campaigns today, maybe you could go and help out some of those TORNADO victims with this free time you’ve got on your hands, rather than being here on the internet spreading this HATE. The “media” has that covered already!

It’s a common misconception that Obama “lacks experience.” But if you do your homework, you’ll find out the truth: Obama has been an elected official for 12 years, vs. Mrs. Clinton’s 8 years. .
In his first 8 years in office, Senator Obama introduced or sponsored 233 health care and public health bills. You can find a summary of his stellar record in The New York Times, which often favors the Clintons.
As a woman, I find it offensive that Mrs. Clinton is running for office, using her husband as a crutch. She may cry that she is running this campaign “on her own,” but what kind of a woman either a) stands for her husband lying about her opponent? or b) actively seeks his help, since she can’t stand on her own?

If Hillary is so great then answer me this.
Hillary stated that nationalhealthcare is a right. Why isn’t she providing healthcare to her own workers if it is such a right? Why won’t she answer the question about whether she provides healthcare to her campaign workers?

I live abroad and it is so sad that some people in America are still treating their fellow black americans with such disrespect. Your blacks have helped to fight your wars and contributed to the growth of the powerful America. They also helped to elect white presidents and there was never an issue about that. This is the first time that a black person stands a real chance to be the next american president. There won’t be another for perhaps another 100 years who demonstrates such excellent qualities. Experience is not important here. How many presidents had that when they first became president? Obama is highly educated and has everything for this job. America has aways been the front runner with big ideas. Now go on and vote for the first black American president. Give him a chance. You lot should elect someone who can make peace for America abroad. The Clinton’s have already left a bad taste. You have not many friends left in Europe and the rest of the world. Most people abroad would prefer Obama as the next president for America.

Tom, you wrote: “Hillary is no Republican…she’s a Marxist.”
Back in May, Sen. Clinton said that what the Bush administration touts as an “ownership society” really is an “on your own” society that has widened the gap between rich and poor. She also said: “It’s time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few and for the few, time to reject the idea of an “on your own” society and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity. I prefer a “we’re all in it together” society.”
CONNECT THE DOTS! First she said that an “ownership society” is really an “on your own” society. Then she says it’s time to reject an “on your own” society. Thus she says we should reject an “ownership society” and “replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity.”
That IS Marxist, if not Communistic!

When the Republicans are done trashing Obama, he will be as divisive and scary as Farrakhan. Don’t be bullied into voting for Obama, just because the Republican attack machine (RAM) has successfully denigrated the Clinton name. They will do the same to Obama. Stand up and support the candidate that knows how to deal with RAM – Senator Clinton. She has resisted and overcome their attacks. Behind the glossy charisma, even Obama will succumb to defamation by RAM. Do we really want another naive person in the White House? After Bush II, haven’t we had enough of taking chances? Obama has no NATIONAL experience. Obama has never had to face or make national decisions (two years is nothing). He wasn’t even in the US Senate when the vote came up to force Iraq to accept investigators into their country (the vote was NOT to athorize war).

Obama has already stood up to the Hillary attack machine. Hillary is a fraud. Her “experience” as a first lady doesn’t count. Her involvement in her husband’s administration ended when her healthcare plan when down in flames. And if she was really so naive as to have allowed Bush to mislead her on the Iraq vote, then she really is too stupid to lead the country.

Wow I really wish I’d done the math in my home state and changed to Democrat so I couldve voted against the “clinton dynasty”.. Then, maybe back to Republican.. Maybe.
So sick of Clintons, it aint even funny. Theyre nothing but a bunch of haters, send them back to Arkansas!
Can you imagine, Hillary steals the nomination with super delegates; blacks come out in droves to vote for McCain? WOW.

bush gave us a lot of change…like jack welch said the other day…IRAQ WAR spending was CHIMP CHANGE…that raygun trickle down theory got you thirsty yet?????

There are many things that Obama and Clinton have in common, and a few where they differ (in my opinion, mostly in the categories of diplomacy, rhetorical skill, and personal appeal). However, if we must stretch so far for differences that we paint Senator Clinton as an emotional (read manipulative) campaigner, let’s just have a look at her voting record and look at Senator Obama’s as well:
“Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years.
These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov), but to save you trouble, I’ll post them here for you.
1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Hon
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O’Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men’s Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men’s Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.
Only five of Clinton’s bills are more substantive:
16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.
There you have it–the facts straight from the Senate Record.
Now, I would post those of Obama’s, but the list is too substantive, so I’ll mainly categorize.
During the first (8) eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced:
233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.
His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These inculded:
**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.”

A few questions to those who blindly follow Hillary: What are these massive accomplishments in the domestic and international arena that she speaks of? How can she be ready to deal with the mess of the W administration of day 1 when she voted to authorize the biggest mistake of this young century? How will she clean up Washington ethics when she accepts more lobbyist money than the Republicans?
The facts simply are this: Senator Clinton and President Clinton are divisive figures…people love them or hate them. Compound this with the perception that none of President Bill Clinton’s undeniable charisma seems to be present in his wife. She comes across as cold, calculating, disingenuous, manipulative, and so on.
So far she has managed to bungle a campaign that started off with all stars aligned to crown her nominee. And lets not forget she chose to run the campaign of inevitability. Senator Clinton now is the “me too” candidate. If Senator Obama raises money, she does too. If Sen. Obama draws young people, she does too. She has even taken to lifting themes from his speeches, which is just sad.
Finally, and most tragic is the fact that the first serious female candidate for the highest office has only gotten this far on the coat tails of her husband. Gloria Steinem and Barbara Streisand should be ashamed.

Yes, let us all give Barry slack or is it Obama slack for he is education. As for the people treating blacks with so little respect, give me a break. This isn’t about prejudice of skin color it is a FACT that we are at war (whether you agree with war, we are there) with a muslim race of people and Baracka Hussein Obama is blood linked so wake up entire world. Revolutionary war should have buried this hatchett. You all forget to easy that the first slaves were traded to America by the Spaniards and that white, indian, black, latino, all people all race died in that Revolutionary war to get past this. Fought beside eachother to preserve this freedom. What revolution is Barack aka Barry lookin toward? How dare he tell young ones this is like the Remember the Titans, this is 2008, not 1949. Do these kids need to think the world hasn’t evolved? What in the world is the matter with folks? Shame on this analogy. Lord have mercy!

Susan Haskell: Obama’s and Edward’s names were also on the Florida ballot. And yet Clinton was able to defeat them by a large percentage.

The assertion that Democrats when they unite rather than divide is correct–and has been for 200 years going back to Jefferson’s administration. The core that TJ put together was:
immigrants, trade workers, and farmers
There are no losses for the Democratic party when they have the support of those groups on their side–if you prefer to substitute ‘minorities’ in for immigrants and ‘blue collar’ for trade workers–it remains the same.
Clinton DOES divide. Comments on political boards show that–but the comments against Obama seem to all come from Clinton supporters. Very few come from others–essentially confirming that prophecy.
I like Obama–but think he is weak in certain areas. I’d like to see him ask Richardson to be his vice-president. Richardson was the most qualified candidate with his experience. He has integrity, and he would shore up Obama’s ‘weakness’ with the Latin community in the southwest.

This series of comments like all comments on other news stories contains far too many vitrolic and hateful diatribes. It would seem to me that our country would be better served by offering factual information or informed opinion. I am someone who voted for Senator Obama when he ran for the U.S. Senate. His campaign statements during that campaign led those of us in Illinois to believe we had a contract with him for six years to address the issues facing Illinois and the country. Unfortunately, there must have been a clause in that contract that allowed him to bow out that his supporters were unaware existed. His unwillingness to serve out the term of office he asked our support for is very disturbing. On top of this disappointment, I have been equally disturbed by his lack of forthrightness in addressing the concerns facing this nation. I do not find it an acceptable response to a question in a debate that people can look up his position on the web site. He should be able to give a specific response to the question so we can all judge his answer. I did not vote for Mr. Obama in the Illinois primary and supported Mrs. Clinton based on her willingness to address our country’s problems with plans filled with specifics and guiding by basic democratic priniciples. In contradiction to Mr. Obama’s claims that all Clinton supporters would vote for him this fall, I and many of my friends would prefer to sit out the election.

I can not stand the negative mean spirited divisive and hate filled blogs from the Obama supporters any more.
I will tell all my friends and family that, as a Democrat, I will vote for the Democratic candidate.
But in the privacy of the voting booth, I will cast my vote for McCain, if Clinton in not on the ballot.
I would rather have a moderate republican for 4 years, than reward the mean spirited Obama supporters on all of these blogs.
Perhaps this is what the media wants and that is why they Always run positive articles for Obama and ALways run negative articles about the Clintons, but the Obma supporters merely add fuel to the fire of hate and division–enough.
In my 32 years as a Democrat, I will for the first time ever vote for a Republican–McCain.
And yes, I live in a swing state.
-Anonymous Democrat for Hillary Clinton.

Obama’s claims about Clinton being a “divisive” figure are really just a distraction from his own lack of a record on the national stage. Hillary Clinton has been in the Senate for 8 years working with colleagues on both sides on the aisle and building a record of accomplishment. Barack Obama has been in the Senate only half that time, and his prime accomplishment is running for President. His rhetoric does not add up when you compare the records.

It is so sad how people let their personal feelings interfere with respective issues of the primaries. The media, especially CNN has practically hailed Senator Obama as to victor. As intelligent individuals why do we let the media decide for us. As a black female, i have a lot of respect for Senator Obama. He is an intelligent man with a lot of views for the future. But on the other hand, Senator Clinton has more experience. As a black woman i am ashame to see Obama cry racism one comments are made. The Clintons have done far more than Obama has ever done for the black community. Obama has to stop attacking President Bill Clinton because he is not the one his running against. He needs to focus on Hillary. Everyone is also talking about unity. How come respected democratic leaders like Ted Kennedy are making endorsements before we have a democratic front runner if it the claim they want to party to unite.

The centrepiece of Obama’s campaign has been the claim that he is the candidate of “hope” and “change” as opposed to the establishment figure, Hillary Clinton. He has crowned himself the king of post-racial and post-partisan politics. With the assistance of the corporate media, he has captured the imagination and hope of millions of voters, particularly new layers of politicised young people.
The truth behind the Obama phenomenon, however, is much less attractive than the image. If you look at his concrete policies, voting record and source of campaign funds, Obama is a trusted servant of the big business elite. He represents the US ruling class’s desperate attempt to put a new face on its domestic and global domination.
Obama’s list of top campaign contributors reads like a Wall Street Who’s Who list, with Goldman Sachs at the top. How does he deny taking money from lobbyists and PACs [Political Action Committees, which can receive up to $5,000 a year from any one individual - Eds.] and still raise over $100 million? The answer is the magic of ‘bundling’ – elite individuals with a lot of influence get many senior and junior level executives to donate the maximum amounts.
As of 29 October 2007 , Obama had received 46% of his campaign money from mega-rich donors who had given $2,300 or more.

There is an old saying that we get the government we deserve. The comments of Anonymous Democrat for Hillary Clinton are the proof in the pudding. The ideas that a Democratic party member would vote for McCain is as silly and disingenuous as Ann Coulter saying she will vote for Hillary Clinton. As is the assumption that Sen. Clinton has more experience or that the Clinton’s did so much for black people. We are debating perception people, not facts. Do Hillary supporters perceive her as being more experienced because she’s older? Or is there something else about Obama that they don’t like that is politically correct to say?
The fact is a vote for McCain is a continuation of the failed policies of the past 8 years. No one really knows what a vote for either Clinton or Obama means; Obama is an unknown but inspiring quantity. The simple fact is that we can’t ever go back to the 90′s; they are gone never to return.
I have not voted for Clinton in the Missouri primaries for a couple reasons:
1. Her close relationships to Washington lobbyist. She can’t fight for the interests if the American people if she is in the pocket of corporate interests.
2. Her politics are the politics of 50+1. Are they going to try and out-Rove Rove? If South Carolina is any indication they are well on their way.
and finally,
3. I don’t feel any obligation to her because some people believe President Clinton was good for people of color. People of color need to reflect on whether their lives improved. Did the achievement gap decrease? Did the Clinton administration decrease the percentage of black men in prison or stabilize the black family? The assumption that any socio-ethnic group owes ANY party allegiance is ridiculous.
I’m a free thinker, not sheeple.
In many cases this requirement that blacks line up behind the Clinton’s out loyalty is nothing more the mentality of the plantation. Clinton offers us more of the same. And as Howard Dean said in 2004, we can do better than that.

My family did very well during the Bill Clinton years. The economy was good, we had a trillion dollar surplus, we had money in our pockets, jobs and freinds around the world. Mark my words, Hillary willmake an even better president than Bill.

Clinton does divide America. Just after Wellseley, she played the gender card, vote for me, I’m a female. NOW is currently pushing that idea, and any woman not voting for Hillary is considered a traitor. Personally, to me, that she has to rely on such an argument, instead of on her qualities, shows that she doesn’t have what it takes to be a President. Will that be how she leads our country, with indignation that, when someone doesn’t listen to her, that it’s because she’s a woman? I’ve had enough of that already. If she can’t take the heat with dignity, she’s not ready.

All I am reading here are attacks ON Obama by Clinton fanatics. Clearly the little Hillfans are busy typing away trying to creat a story where there is none. I think Mark Penn has sicced a few volunteers on each website dealing with the primaries to drum up the anti-Obama vitriol.
Also, why is it that so few Hillary supporters can use grammar, punctuation and paragraphs? Is this why well educated voters are shying away from her? Perhaps better educated voters also have longer memories and so have not forgotten what the Clintons are really like.
I also do not know why “46″ is considered immature and young. Bill was not much older than this when he began his much vaunted leadership of the free world and all that.

I agree with Michael. If you dont want to vote for Obama, dont say that ‘as a Latino I will never vote for a blackman’. I was shocked as well because I never knew that Latinos are such racists. I am British and the editor of a newsmagazine and I have some stories to tell next week. Just for your interest, the whole world is praying for Obama. We need a leader not a president. Give him a chance, you will not regret because you did. Baby boom in Asia, and Europe and Africa has Obama as first names. We need him. With Obama, America will restore her positio of leadership in the world.

Yes we can! Yes we can! Yes we can!
Fools!
I want specifics! I want to get things done! I want action!
And I don’t want my president making “BONE-HEADED MISTAKES” as Obama admitted about a real estate deal OBAMA HIMSELF INITIATED with Rezko during a time when he knew Rezko was already being written about.
And I don’t want 130 PRESENT votes, which betrays a lack of conviction and a tendency to seek political advantage.
Fools! Fools! Fools!
How foolish we are about believing all this nonsense!

On electability, we need to remember that Hillary is carrying the big states the Dems traditionally depend on–New York, California, etc. Obama’s wins in Iowa, So. Carolina, Kansas, Nebraska, North Dakota, etc. are, in sense phantom wins, because those states will go for McCain. And are these recent polls pitting Hillary and Obama against McCain weighted to reflect the division of electoral college votes? I doubt it.

The Democrats are never held accountable for their actions (and inactions) by African-Americans. And when African-Americans have “stepped out of line,” the African-American leadership and others condemn them. That is why there are so few African-American’s running for office as Republicans. It’s not for lack of conservative African-Americans. It’s their unwillingness (and understandably so) to subject their children and families to such ridicule. Just ask yourself, “Would the mainstream media be enamored with Barack Obama if he was a conservative Republican?” Of course not!

I am amazed that there is so little mention of the huge movement called “Republicans for Obama”. I am 66 yrs old, and just “signed up” as one of them, & also donated to his campaign. I have never voted Democrat in my life, but this will be my first time, IF – and ONLY if, he is the candidate. He is amazing, extremely bright,and so very inspiring. Wake up, folks – people like this don’t come around often.

Obama Is so wrong, as his in-expiernce shows. Bill was the best and Hillary will, I repete will be better.