Obama, Clinton Shower Cash on Delegates
ABC News Rick Klein Reports: They’re by far the most influential 796 Democratic voters in the country, and they’re being . . . showered with cash by the two remaining Democratic candidates?
It’s not quite as unseemly as it sounds. But an eyebrow-raising study from the Center for Responsive Politics shows that "superdelegates" have received at least $890,000 in political contributions from Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton — going back to 2005 — with Obama sending a larger share of cash to the influential party insiders.
The study found that Obama has sent more than $694,000 from either his campaign account or his political action committee to superdelegates — the members of Congress, governors, and other party leaders who receive automatic votes at the Democratic National Convention.
About 40 percent of the elected officials who have endorsed Obama have received campaign contributions from him, the center reports. Those superdelegates have received a total of $228,000 from him.
By contrast, Clinton sent out only $195,500 to superdelegates, and only 12 percent of her superdelegates received money from her for their campaigns, according to the report.
And quantities may count.
"In cases where superdelegates had received contributions from both Clinton and Obama, all seven elected officials who received more money from Clinton have committed to her," the report states. "Thirty-four of the 43 superdelegates who received more money from Obama, or 79 percent, are backing him."
While such contributions are perfectly legal, they shine a light on another element of the little-understood process by which the Democratic Party chooses a nominee: Superdelegates could determine the nomination, and many of them are politicians themselves, with their own reelection campaigns to worry about when they make their choices.

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So why have all the primaries in all these states, spending billions of dollars, if the people’s vote isn’t going to count? Go figure, a stupid Democratic process. GO OBAMA!!!! Beat the witch!
Posted by: elsies | February 14, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Rick – Not to be morbid, but is it now 795 superd.s with the passing of Lantos, or does someone automatically replace him? Also, I read that Roz Samuels in NJ switched from Clinton to Obama today. Think that may start a trend? Also, in the VA paper today Del. Spruill (a black legislator and superd.) suggested that due to the overwhelming support by his constituency for Obama, he is feeling pressure to switch.
Posted by: Kevin | February 14, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Big Deal…ABC almost makes it look like it is a bribe. When I am giving money to someone, I would rather give to someone who would support me. No big deal!!!
Posted by: Talk2TechGuy | February 14, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Interesting that Obama is giving bribe money to the super delegates. Makes you wonder how clean he is on the receiving end!
Posted by: ges | February 14, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
What happened to “free and fair”??? This amounts to bribery. Nauseating.I haven’t even voted in a primary yet and the election in November is being decided now by Superdelegates.
Posted by: Momvar | February 14, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
So is Obama going to spend some of his money and BUY HIMSELF SOME EXPERIENCE?!! Obama has never been to Iraq, so how can he possibly pull us out of the middle east safely? Hillary has been to Iraq multiple times and met with military personnel. He is preaching hope, while she has been working on solutions. Obama has NO chance against a war hero veteran like McCain. The democrats will loose the white house again if Obama is the nominee.
Posted by: buysomeexperience | February 14, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Whether this is status quo or not for a primary … this is bad. It’s great to support members of their party but… it seems like a harbinger of what is to come.
A VERY LARGE reason why superdelegates should not override the parties democratic vote… in either direction.
I am a democrat and fight for it’s standing but I like many, many others will leave the party if the superdelegates overturn the will of the people.
Posted by: dl | February 14, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Very very bad system even if legal; because there is a very very thin line between campaign contribution to so-called super delegates and vote buying.
This makes the super delegate system even the more odious; but that is ‘democracy’ — ILLUSION of fair play. People can be bought
Posted by: New Yorker | February 14, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
ges you’re very smart to note that Obama gave “bribes”, but Hillary didn’t. Very articulate. Lol, they comes in all shapes and sizes, these idiots.
Posted by: Roca | February 14, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
I’ve been getting an uneasy feeling about the Democrat’s Superdelegates ever since this season’s race became a toss up.
Wow, the Democrats Elite get to choose the next President without regard to the voting public. Now we find out that whomever can pay the superdelegates the most payola will win.
This is an embarrassment to democracy.
Here I am, one of those Republicans who was planning on voting for Obama…
Posted by: Charlie | February 14, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Is Obama’s squeaky clean image breaking! Sounds like “bribe” money to me.
Posted by: JAS | February 14, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Hillary is slipping..didn’t her campaign manager..or asst manager just quit?…
Posted by: Ramage100 | February 14, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
you are very daft. Haven’t you heard that what we don’t need right now is more of the same pathetic experience? Bill Clinton hadn’t been to foreign countries when he becanme President, but if i recall correctly, it didn’t hurt him much when it came to foreign affairs.
Posted by: Roca | February 14, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Wow.
Bribe money to the super delegates. Lol. Im sure Senator Mc Cain is going to have a field day with this one.
Republican LANDSLIDE folks. Obama is an media invented IDIOT.
Posted by: tom | February 14, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Very very bad system even if legal; because there is a very very thin line between campaign contribution to so-called super delegates and vote buying.
This makes the super delegate system even the more odious; but that is ‘democracy’ — ILLUSION of fair play. People can be bought
Posted by: New Yorker | February 14, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
When you “give” money to 40% of the people who support you it’s a bribe. Obama – “no you can’t”!
Posted by: ges | February 14, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
fem Obtle is the reason God considers bearing false witness right up there with murder , It is so easy to lie it seems
Posted by: don quixote | February 14, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
So it’s fair to say OBAMA is playing POLITICS AS USUAL? Contributing more than Senator Clinton…
Tsk Tsk…
Posted by: matthew | February 14, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
“Thirty-four of the 43 superdelegates who received more money from Obama, or 79 percent, are backing him.”
Obama is not clean and he cheated us. Why did so many young voters supported him?
Obama is time for you to stop playing game now.
Posted by: Mike_88 | February 14, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Let’s see – technically it’s legal for Obama to bribe 40% of the super delegates that support him – technically it was legal for him to pay $300,000 less than asking price for his house. What about ETHICALLY!
Posted by: Jeff | February 14, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Hey Roca, when we get reports of a new threat to America, and Obama doesn’t take action,….well, you better be ready to tuck your head between your knees and kiss yourself goodbye! We need national security. All you liberal, let’s sing about hope, people disgust me. Yes, the war in Iraq has drug on for too long, but we have been safe from attacks. You need to have a strong leader. Obama is an orator, not a decision maker- “Prsent” 137 times…etc
Posted by: buyseomeexperience | February 14, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Obama sent more than $694,000 to superdelegates,members of Congress, governors, and other party leaders in order to buy votes at the Democratic National Convention. Obama’s squeaky clean image is exposed! It is “bribe” money to gain votes. He ain’t what he would like to portray. He is the snake oil salesmen, full of empty talk.
Posted by: tigerjcs | February 14, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
Obama’s policies are the same ones that got Detroit into such a mess. I wonder if his proposed tax cuts are his way of bribing the public. It’s starting to make sense.
Posted by: Sally | February 14, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Isn’t that called vote buying? aka Bribery.
Posted by: Patriot2008 | February 14, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
To Okdokethen:
Yes, and we even have pin-heads like you voting. Your comments about Obama’s wife are disgusting. These racist, bigotted comments are not what this election is about. I haven’t decided whom I’m voting for yet, but McGain, Obama, Clinton, and rest are a good field of candidates this year.
Posted by: Den | February 14, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Obama is right! Time IS on his side. The more we hear about him the more we want him to step aside.
Posted by: JAS | February 14, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
I’d say I’m surprised that the Clintons hadn’t contributed more, except that they can call in old favors, rather than curry new ones. I’d take a look at the individual donations by either side before getting worked up about this. Part of getting things done politically is helping get like-minded people elected.
Posted by: David | February 14, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
I think it’s time for an IRS audit to make sure every last cent has been reported and taxes paid for it.
Posted by: Patriot2008 | February 14, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Can somebody please answer this question. If Obama believes that superdelegates are irrelevant why has he pandered to them? This guy is no lone ranger, he’s just another politician. Nader was right, he’s just an ineffective politician.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | February 14, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
buyseomeexperience, tell that to the families of the 52 people killed in London 07/07/2005 because of the war in Iraq. Politics of fear is what has cost the lives of 4000 US serice men and women in Iraq. If you voted for bush in 2000 and 2004 you have blood on your hands just like GW. Fear is all that is left of a party that is bankrupt of ideas.
Posted by: Evan | February 14, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Obama’s just passing the bribe along. The $300K bribe he received on his house is just being passed to the super delegates. I wonder if this changes the taxes due? Maybe they can ask him during the Wisconsin debate. Oh, I forgot…………
Posted by: Chris | February 14, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Yes, this is disgusting. But it is nothing compared to what the Kennedys did in the 1960 election, both the democratic primary and the general election.
Posted by: Wayne | February 14, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Maybe Obama thought that Larry Sinclair was a superdelegate! He was short on cash and decided to pay him off some other way.
Posted by: Jeff | February 14, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Wow. So Obama’s buying votes?
Posted by: Matt | February 14, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
David, the reason she did not give more was that she ran out of money.
Posted by: Evan | February 14, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
This is just great. While they are both bribing super delegates mine and millions of Florida citizens don’t count. And we wonder why the world question what we stand for.
Posted by: tom | February 14, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
This is how you bring CHANGE Mr. Barack Hussain Obama?
Shame on you.
Posted by: Someone | February 14, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
I wonder, how one can argue that Obama is bribing superdelegates, when Hillary leads Obama in superdelegates 234-157
Posted by: Eric C. Graham | February 14, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Ok, look at Hillary she paid for her superdelegates everytime Obama do good the media always try to bring him down.If Hillary win the demoncrate nonimee see how many American people would either stay home or vote for Republican candidate see if I am a demoncrate would vote for Republican and my friends would also I wish these negative thoughts peole leave Obama along. The demoncratic party would come to a end if they put Hillary as the nonimee watch and see we the American people would not support demoncrate in the general election. The people are for Obama
Posted by: Dre Atlanta | February 14, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
David: Good point. Why pay super delegates to help get themselves re-elected when you can call in old favors ‘markers’ for free! I am not at all concerned about a black or mix President. Or, am I really not living in the United States after all? My copy of the Constitution says nothing about race being a qualification. But, then again it was written when most blacks were still slaves.
Posted by: tcnz | February 14, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Let me get this straight. All I’ve heard over the past few days from Obama and all his supporters is how the Superdelegates can’t be allowed to ruin the nomination process, can’t allow the people’s voice not to be heard, how the superdelegates should not be allowed to be bought, bullied into voting for Hillary. How they had to vote for him. Yet now we find out that actually Obama has been buying superdelegates, lobbying, influencing them just as much if not more based on the amount of money given out but all of a sudden that’s okay, and it’s still all Hillary’s doing. What a joke!!!! So much for so-called change, being ethically so much better than Hillary.
Listen up, Obama supporters!!! You don’t get it both ways. Either you believe and support one thing, or you don’t.
What Hypocricy by both Obama and his supporters!!!
John McCain will destroy Obama in a general election just on his hypocricy alone.
Posted by: devilsndust41 | February 14, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Wake up, boys and girls. It is time for Obama to quit this game now
Posted by: mike_88 | February 14, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
This article is a big lie. Obama is going to bring change to Washington and sit down with Republicans and change their minds as they sip tea and gnaw on cookies. Obama is the new direction and he would never set up his Hopefund none profit group to buy other politicians. He is the new direction. Go to his web site and read what even he does not know – his positions. No more bush, Clinton, Clinton, bush, bush we need a new start.
Obams further exposed as more of the same with no change.
Hopefully, silly ABC will look no further into his old non-profit. We want so badly to believe he is change.
Posted by: Jamie | February 14, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Evan- My best friend got his leg blown off in Iraq. He supports Hillary Clinton. He believes the war needs to end, but safely and he feels Hillary can deliver the troops home correctly. He says you just can’t pull everyone out quickly…more USA troops would die. It’s a process. An educated process. Hillary came to Iraq and spoke to the troops, Obama has not. Kid- you really just don’t know what it’s really like out there. We need national security, but that doesn’t mean we need fear. We need experience. HILLARY.
Posted by: buysomeexperience | February 14, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
So the long knives are staring to come out. Read this one: “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The man in the tape is a mental patient who wasn’t in Chicago in 1999 because he was in a mental institution. The media did its job and didn’t follow the memo like Fox News did with the false Muslim smear. Obama was not a State Rep. like he says – since 1996 Obama was a State Senator. Obama didn’t use a limo in Chicago and there isn’t any record to back up even one of the dates he mentions. Also for someone making 300K/week he would know the right drug terms. The crack and powder would be ice and dust.”
Posted by: tcnz | February 14, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Unbelievable!
Obama is such a hypocrite.
He presents himself as taking the high road, and being more moral than the usual politics, but he is playing the political game just like everyone else!
Posted by: Robert | February 14, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
I used to support Obama but I actually started reading all these articles and kept finding him trying to pass off the truth as lies. I feel like I bought into a fad and when I take time to read comments his a write I am even more glad. So sad.
Posted by: Tammy | February 14, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
I wondered why he had so many endorsements. I thought he was promising them all VP especially the white females, but know we know the truth. He is just paying them. How sad, when he is clearly unqualifed for the job and could never win without Fl or MI or any major state win other than his own. There is no reason for super delegates to be backing this guy except money.
Posted by: s.b. | February 14, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
buysomeexperience: Hillary Clinton might have been better served as would all of the VP’s surrounded by bodyguards if she had got out to talke to real Iraqis and not just their politicians. I do not give them longevity once out of the Green Zone – the way it goes in the mid-East.
Posted by: tcnz | February 14, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
NOW WE DEFINATELY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN PUERTO RICO!
Posted by: s.b. | February 14, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Well there’s no doubt now the guys from Chicago. Wonder if Rezco gave him this idea.
Posted by: s.b. | February 14, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
This is the democratic process?
Posted by: Daleri | February 14, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
I cannot believe the American people are going to stand for this corruption. We are suppose to have a democracy but we sure do not. The people had better stand up to this evil or we will lose America. The people vote and not people behind closed doors. Come on people, scream to the Heavens or we are finished.
Posted by: rockychance | February 14, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Stand up and form a new party folks. Have not we had enough of democrats and republican corruption. It is time for an American Party of the people and not this garbage we call democrats and republicans.
Posted by: rockychance | February 14, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
But Osama Obama has like major tons and tons of foreign country experience. He eats Chinese food, he visited Epcot Center in Florida. His wife once crossed the border into Canada. The sometimes do drive thru at Taco Bell.
Yes we kahn !!
Posted by: Betty | February 14, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Stand up and form a new party folks. Have not we had enough of democrats and republican corruption. It is time for an American Party of the people and not this garbage we call democrats and republicans.
Posted by: rockychance | February 14, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Shame! So Obama has been buying super delegates for political advantage. What a combination: Drugs + corruption in Chicago + Bribery + Being the most liberal senator in the senate! I am now very suspicious of him because he seems to hide behind empty rhetoric as a campaign. I will no longer support this guy. His issues are growing daily and I wonder what GOP has in its sleeves if he wins the nomination
Posted by: lindsay Engram | February 14, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
You mean Osama gave money to these people but we can’t have the same old folks doing the same old things.
Obama (Barry) is a fraud !
Posted by: Chester | February 14, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Take that you Obama lovers. The man has spent $694,000 to try and buy superdelegates. It that the squeeky clean president you want? He is also accused of smoking marijuana and having sex with a man. It that the image you want for you next president? You Obama lovers had better wake up before it is to late. The republican swift boats will tear him to pieces if he should win the nomination. Why do you want to vote for a train wreck like this is beyond me.
Posted by: ehh | February 14, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
So much for American democracy. America today is a joke. We watched on tv as millions of Americans braved extreme weathers to go and vote and yet their vote is gonna be overruled by some corrupt 795 delegates who are right now busy figuring how to get more bribes from the candidates! American politics is pathetic!!!!
Posted by: Slim | February 14, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
We should get this sent to major News channel so that they can cover it. I assured that it would be pointless becuase the media is pro-Obama.
Robert
I am glad that you come to the light that obama is a fraud.
Posted by: Mat | February 14, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Sounds like Obama is as corrupt as all the other politicians in Washington. No surprise here.
Posted by: Naomi | February 14, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Back on topic. With all this cash greasing the hands of the Super Delegates from both Obama and Hillary. Do you thing this type of “favor” politics should be illegal or outlawed in some way? I do.
Posted by: Jordan Clinton | February 14, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Funny, how you all seem to have overlooked that Hillary gave them money too. Also funny how this just came to light after Obama pulled ahead of her and the article tries to make his actions apprear worse than hers. I guarantee you that this came from the Clinton camp, because she is running scared and the only thing she knows how to do is play dirty politics. Politicians contribute to each others campaigns all the time. Get over it haters OBAMA is going to WIN!
Posted by: Ithinkformyself1 | February 14, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
Ithinkformyself1:
May the Lord bless you with such intelligent, insightful, and timely remarks…….I agree with you…
Thanks
Posted by: Anthony | February 14, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Big whooop. If someone supports you, your not going to try and help them with his or her own reelection bid. Now that Obama looks like he is gonna win, they are trying all the dirty tricks in the book. Do they think we are a bunch of suckers? Hillary can’t even balance her own budget, how is she gonna balance ours?
Posted by: AK | February 14, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
With all due respect. Mr. Obama, a Chicago Politician know as much or more about dirty tricks than any of them.
Posted by: Jordan Clinton | February 14, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Obama is going to lose his flock of rabid supporters when they find out he is just another sleazy politician.
He is acting like a lobbyist, on his own behalf, yet he says he doesn’t take money from lobbyists.
But he buys Delegates. Even spent more on buying Delegates than Senator Clinton did.
This situation is scandalous.
Posted by: Travis | February 14, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
Jordan Clinton:
You can send an e-mail to the Clinton camp for all I care…..bud. Did you not read the headline concerning both showering super delegates with cash? So, lay off senator Obama, or I’ll keep coming straight at your nonsensical comments….got it?
Posted by: Anthony | February 14, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
How can he claim to bring a fresh change to the White House and that he’s not tied into (or bought and sold) the D.C. establishment? This guy seems to be full of bull. A political poet who is full of it, has obviously been planning since day 1 as a 1st term senator (2 years ago), and whishy washy on top of it! What is the media thinking by promoting this guy?
Posted by: predictable123 | February 14, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
I don’t hate Mr. Obama at all. I just feel he is not ready to become President of the United States just yet. I feel Hillary is the best candidate. It is obvious Anthony your hate for Mrs. Clinton has already consumed you and has warped your mind quite a bit.
Posted by: Jordan Clinton | February 14, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Please bring back John Edwards
Posted by: sue | February 14, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Wake up and smell the coffee. I think all of you is very upset, because
Obama have more money to pay the super delegates. It is perfectly legal. Obama has more money, because he accept money from everyone, just go on his website. I did. It tells you to donate any amount of money you can. Even if it is only a penny. Reality, face it. His campaing is doing a great job. Who cares about his past. I feel it is not true. People stop playing games and stop being evil againgst this man. I never thought this world was so cruel. I will pray for all of you that has such garbage in your mental thoughts. The world need to show love not hate. If Obama wins I will be happy. If Hillary wins I will not say anything evil about her. No matter what we are still human. Let go and let God into your hearts and you will love everybody. Obama is my canidate that I choose. The Media and no one will change your mind. What if God scandalized you and turned his back on ya’ll whenever you did wrong. We all fall down by the wayside. Obama is a great man. He knows how to reach to the world and touch America’s hearts. He will make this world a better place . He show love to everyone. Go Obama
Posted by: Wanda | February 14, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
Jordan Clinton:
….I do not hate Clinton; neither do I hate you……I do not like the dirty tricks played by her campaign. And I do not like the “void of reason” concerning senator Obama coming from you…..Since you support Mrs. Clinton, then support her; and stop attacking such an incredible young man–senator Obama.
Both Clinton and Obama are fine public servants…..remember that. One will become president in 2008….And I feel it will be senator Obama.
And people of goodwill should rejoice about that……especially in light of the history of this nation.
Posted by: tony | February 14, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
Fox is the one who posted the erroneous statements about Obama being a Muslim and they also are the ones who carried the article on the supposed Larry Sinclair memo without checking. The man was in a mental institution in 1999 during the alleged occurrences of drugs and sex. However, people who like to trace things back are finding that the links to supposed Hillary Clinton sites are not her official ones but all being traced back to Ron Paul supporters. He needs to come out and disown what his lot are doing. So, I do not trust Fox since they did not check first and when I hear that Rush Limbaugh won’t touch it that would seem to make the whole situation full of crock! sue: Be careful what you ask for (smile) Ralph Nader is making noises again about coming in as an Independent. Aaaaagh!!!!
Posted by: tcnz | February 14, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Wanda:
Thanks Wanda for such words of wisdom…..’cause I should not allow such ignorant comments concerning senator Obama to move me….especially when such comments are coming from folks who obviously are envious of his success. Absolutely!!!! It is so easy to contribute to his campaign. I have…..and will again. I love how clean and user friendly his website is……So professional!!!!! The Lord has indeed blessed the world with senator Obama…..Hillary too!!! As I said before: they both are fine public servants…..
And for those who continue to write such hateful words…..
Go out tonite with your love one if you got one……maybe that’s why some of you are so angry this St. Valentines’s evening……
Stop being so mean, and maybe someone will date you.
Posted by: anthony | February 14, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
OK ………… SO WHO CARES ITS PROBABLY NOT TRUE =P .. NOT SURE BUT GOOOOOOOOOOO etc….. OBAMA ! my home boy we need a black man for
Posted by: maria mtz. | February 14, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
cindy:
anyone who engages in entaintaining such foolishness as you are really need to find someone to love…
Do you have a male friend? If so, go have dinner young lady!!!
It’s Valentine’s Day….and here you are trying to find out if something stupid is true or smear….oh please!!!!
Posted by: anthony | February 14, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
We should dump our outdated election system and move to a popular vote system. The peoples votes should count directly.
Posted by: Matt | February 14, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
Anthony: Like Mr. OBama you talk a good game of love and kindness in one post, and then you are mean, condescending and verbally abusive to Cindy in your next post. She is just asking a simple question and wants a straight answer.
You are not very sincere and kind unless someone agrees with you. I smell someone who is pretentious and phony.
Posted by: Jordan Clinton | February 14, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
The difference between Hillary and Obama in this instance is that Hillary does not disregard the superdelegates. Obama does in his numerous comments as well as thru his so called spokespersons, to the press. Obama has all along in the public dismiss the idea of superdelegates, because he is so arrogant thinking he does not need them with his so called winnings. He is winning because of hateful Rep. wanted him to win so they can go after him in the fall campaign with McCain. Obama is just another sleazy and corrupt politician who will buy votes and favors. Now you know the truth!! Well… “Obama, No, You cannot!”
Wake up before it is too late. Don’t vote for Obama!! Vote for Hillary!! She walks the talk.
Posted by: JP | February 14, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Now I doubt there’s little surprise that Hillary has contributed cash to superdelegates- but Obama? tell me it isn’t so- C’mon people , his top contributors are UBS; the nation’s leading nuclear power plant operator, Exelon; Wall Street financial house JP Morgan Chase and Goldman Sachs among others- could explain his voting against a 30% cap on credit card interest, you think? even Hillary voted against that- could explain his vote to limit people’s ability to obtain compensation from misbehaving corporations- could explain his belief that nuclear power is “green” – Hope and Change- Hillary is no peach, but Obama has no moral higher ground and while his talk is good he’s no more about hope and change than any other candidate we’ve ever had
Posted by: sue | February 14, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
The current unreasonable gushing over Oprahma reminds me of the unrealistic Dot Com Internet fiasco in 2000. Just about everyone climbed on board; nobody saw the crash coming, but it came, nonetheless. Staying off the Oprahma train is priceless. This guy slices too much baloney and when “The View” states that he is some kind of “Messiah”, that is a RED FLAG, people. Leave it to a bunch of overwrought women to come up with that idea.
Posted by: therockofages | February 14, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Obama is a wolf in sheepskin. Be careful of what you wish for!! I wonder how much Oprah has donated to Obama??
VA and MD had a lot of Rep. voting using Dem ballot, so they can get Obama in for the McCain showdown in September. I heard they don’t want Hillary because they know she is a stronger condidate, debates, arguing on beliefs, has more relationships with Washington bigwigs (thru her own experience in the Senate as well as thru her husband’s administration). She would be stronger, so they pick on Obama to get nominated and then go for the attack. Same thing goes for presidency, should Obama is elected, Rep. wants to break the Dem’s control in that branch of government, since Congress is currently controlled by Dems already. Rep. feels it is easier to manipulate Obama, than with Hillary who would fight back more effectively.
It is a trend now and it is a plan by the Rep. so the rumor mills goes.
Posted by: Elizabeth | February 14, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
AMERICA’S HATRED OF INTELLIGENT WOMEN WHO DARE TO POINT OUT THE MALE FALLACIES IS PREVENTING IT TO FORGET THE MOTHER HEN WHO DOES NOT CROW BUT LAY EGGS. IF THIS MOTHER HEN, HILLARY’S IDEA IS ALREADY ADOPTED BY EVEN BUSH AND THE BANKS NOW, WHY IS SHE NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO LEAD? ONLY IN AMERICA, CAN SUCH mystifying CONTRADITTION EXISTS. COMPENTENT WOMAN PUSHED ASIDE TO MAKE ROOM FOR NOISY AND USELESS ROOSTERS WHO JUST KNOW HOW TO STRUT AROUND AND DISTURB THE PEACE WITH SHRILL CROWINGS TO CALL ATTENTION TO THEMSELVES.BEST OF LUCK! AMERICA. YOU ARE COOKING THE GOOSE THAT LAYS THE GOLDEN EGGS.
Posted by: goodeyeandear | February 14, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
There will come a point in this campaign when it will be obvious that money can not buy political mind.
Posted by: Suzannaquanashawn | February 14, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
AMERICAN MEDIA IS AT ITS BEST AGAIN IN FOLLOWING THE CROWD INSTEAD OF INFORMING THE CROWD ABOUT ALL THE FACTS. ITS REPORT OF POLITICAL EVENTS IS LIKE REPORTING A ROCK CONCERT. OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA. JUST SHOUTING THIS NAME WILL SOLVE AMERICA’S DIRE PROBLEMS!I REMEMBER SHUDDERING WHEN THE MEDIA SERVED SO EFFECTIVELY AS BUSH’S DRUMER BOY IN 2003 AND PUSHED HIS APPROVAL RATING TO 84% AFTER THE “SHOCK AND AWE”. SO MANY CLEARMINDED AND CLEARFIGHTED PEOPLE WERE FRIGHTENED AND COWERED INTO A CORNER. NOW THIS UGLY HISTORY IS REPEATING EXACTLY IN THE SAME EERIE WAY. I WONDER WHO IS THE MEDIA SERVING REALLY? THE PEOPLE, THE REAL PEOPLE OF AMERICA, OR SOMETHING ELSE? OR JUST THE LEVEL OF JOURNALISM HAS SUNK TO THE NADIR LEVEL AS THE GENERAL AMERICAN CULTURE SUCH AS THE LATE NITE SHOWS AND ALL THE RAPS, HIPS AND HOPS?
PERHAPS WHEN A CULTURE AND COUNTRY ARE ON THE DOWN HILL SLOPE, THE DESCEND IS RAPID AND UNSTOPPABLE.
Posted by: WONDER | February 14, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
this lawsuit is dated feb. 11 2008
Posted by: cindy | February 14, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
My dears,
i, as a democrat, understand why you guys are all behaving this way. It’s because the candidate you are supporting is losing. That’s democracy.
STOP YOUR RECKLENESS ATTACKS AND FOCUS ON HOW TO HELP BARACK WIN THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER. Please!
Posted by: kool | February 14, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
Mogul, Go look at the SurveyUSA Link on the polls results where they break down race, gender and party affliation, etc., particularly for VA and MD. There are actually, in one poll, more Rep. voting (50 plus percentage) for Obama under Obama selection, than Dems voting for Oboma under Obama selection (40plus percentage). Isn’t is funny that if the question is posed supposedly to Dem voter as to who you would vote for, why are there more Rep. voting for Obama, than Dems? It raised a red flag!
This prob. mirrors what actually happened during the primary elections for those two states.
Posted by: Elizabth | February 14, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
nothing like hope backed up with cash
Posted by: scathinglybrilliant | February 14, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Kool: I beg to differ 52 delegates separate the candidates. I would say that is almost a dead heat no matter how you try to spin it. I am working and donating to Hillary. I am focus on how to help Hillary win in November, as are millions of other. Ever street has two sides.
Posted by: Jordan Clinton | February 14, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
Let’s see – Obama gets $300,000 in bribe money when he bought his house and then passes it on to the super delegetes. Sounds like Reagans “trickle down” economics.
Posted by: Jeff | February 14, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
I always wondered what “hope” Obama was talking about — now I know. It was the “hope” he had that the people wouldn’t find out. To Late!!
Posted by: JAS | February 14, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Roca, the experience Bill had was one of being GOVERNOR. The experience Hillary had; was working in causes that support her philosophy. Children’s Defense fund, education, human rights. She was out there visiting countries as First Lady and Ambassador. Unlike Obama, who has no evidence of doing any work whatsoever for the people that support his philosophy. He did nothing. Not even tutor. You can’t claim you are for the people, and insult the lower income earners or working class that is the base of the party you are running for. We are the Working Class Democrats. We are the ones you all think are uneducated. We are the ones voting for Hillary because we KNOW HER, WE LIKE HER, WE BELIEVE IN HER and WE RESPECT her experience. We have the Clinton experience and WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. Interesting that no cares to face that fact.
Posted by: irma | February 14, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
c’mon- the republicans and hillary wouldv’e come up with someone better than larry sinclair- i’d think with the money they have they couldv’e come up with someone more believable – where’d he come from? briar’ patch ? i am not an obama supporter, in the slightest, but this most likely is larry sinclair’s opportunity to get his 15 minutes of fame
Posted by: sue | February 14, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Tito, you are so wrong. The people who don’t like Obama right now, never will. I mean the media has been on overdrive in support of Obama. Not surprising since they are Republican owned with Republican strategist and pundits completely outnumbering Democrating ones in certain networks that I can’t mention, ’cause they’ll block me as MSNBC did for spreading the word. Nevertheless, I considered Obama because I wondered what it was all about. I did not go to his rallies, I had friends who did. I watched his speeches and I preferred to read what he spoke. I felt he was empty. I researched his background and realized I have done more for the people than anything he has ever done. I am not going to vote for him if he becomes the nominee. He has invited Republicans to help him win. While at the same time, insulting the Democrating base. You all have. Meanwhile he praised Republicans. I am sorry, but to a life long Democrat who believes in OUR PARTY philosophy, I would feel it is a betrayel if I vote for him now. I will never vote for a Republican. I’ll just sit this one out. I have been a Democrat, interested and active in politics since age seven. All my life I have devoted my self to volunteering for the good of the people. Obama has not earned my vote. Hillary has.
Posted by: irma | February 14, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Not that it matters, lol, but the real story is this:
Both Obama and Clinton had PACs to assist Democratic candidates over the past couple years. Both gave money to Democratic candidates. In fact, Obama’s PAC gave money to Clinton for her Senate campaign.
And now, this campaign year, super delegates are made up of two groups. One is unelected party officials. The other is elected Democratic office holders – as in the same candidates who ran for office using money from PACs, such as the ones Obama and Clinton had.
So while it can be made to look like so many here have understood this story, its really not all that fair to either candidate.
The only way to avoid things like this is, gasp, exclusively public financing campaigns. Oh, and in this particular case, also scrapping the super delegate system – but then there still would be financial connections between candidates and their endorsers.
Posted by: Paul | February 14, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
I hope those of you who have given of your money to these people will read what is going on. You give your money to support them. They spend your money on media coverage as a means of getting out their views. but also now they are giving your money to other democrats to buy their vote. Which helps these other political life timers to remain in office even if they are not one you would support. But once you hand over the money it can go anywhere. Maybe it would be better to give those dollars to charity or research or maybe pay your bills.
Posted by: s63m | February 14, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Obama how can you “change” politics when your dirty politics is one of the worst? I am shocked at your buying the deligates votes. Obama your a deceitful hypocrite! Obama you learned from the best, your long term partner, Resko, taught you well… You lost my vote,
Posted by: leon | February 14, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Obama your actions speak louder than words. I believed in you, but this is disgusting. Your up to your eyeballs in dirty politics, you make Hillary look good. Obama, when are going to practice what you preach? CHANGE we can believe in – NOT.
Posted by: martha | February 14, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
The fact that Obama won’t answer questions directly shows that he is hiding something. Ever notice that when he is confronted he responds with an accusation. Time is on his side. The more time that goes by the more I want him to step aside.
Posted by: JAS | February 14, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Okay, Obama explain how bribe money is part of this “change” to clean up dirty politics. I guess your inexperienced and a dirty politian
Posted by: dalton | February 14, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
I am a democrat and have been for a long time. Looking at remaining three candidates, McCain stands out as a cadidate with integrity and conviction. Even though I do not agree with policies (Iraq War, Immigration, Social issues) but I have to admire his conviction. Republicans have done it again, chosen a sensible candidate who can and should win in November. One may have a gift of gab as Obama does but in the long run character matters. If Obama is the democratic candidate, and it looks like he will be, I am voting Republican a first in my life.
Posted by: Satish | February 14, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Ok OBAMA supporters…if these figures were reversed, you’d be bombing Clinton with “what a lying conniving witch”.
I”m sayin Obama’s a slick backed uncle tom.
And, uh, the only difference is race and gender…but it’s ok to call someone a name because it’s “not as bad as the other.”
Kinda like all sins have equal weight, but we cherry pick which ones we want to enforce.
What.Ever.One.Sided.Obama.Robots.
Posted by: Josh | February 14, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
I used to think McCain was a man of character condemning waterboarding speaking out against it. Today he voted against making it clear that waterboarding was in fact torture. That’s the last place that I thought McCain would flipflop. He just sold his character for the republican unity behind his back.
Posted by: Samuel | February 14, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
s63m – it isn’t donations for this presidential campaign the article is discussing. Its donations made to their earlier political action committees (PACs). That’s the money that was then donated from the PACs to other Democratic campaigns in earlier election years.
The money donated to a presidential campaign is supposed to be used on the presidential campaign. Some of it goes to odd expenses associated with the campaign. And I’m not sure how Clinton got away with paying off another politician’s campaign debt last year (though may have been from her Senate campaign accounts in all fairness).
Posted by: Paul | February 14, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Experience in foreign relations: 5] Senator Clinton, according to many sources, has travelled to 84 different countries as an emissary of this nation either in the capacity of the first lady, or as a United States Senator from New York. These foreign visits feed a knowledge of the world that is extrmemely important for the president to possess, as the past eight years have demonstrated with too much clarity for all of us. Now please tell me how much foreign experience you can get going to that many countries for a day or two on whistle stop visits to shake hand with the Heads of State and sit down to fancy banquet? Wonder how many of those heads of state are still in power? No, Obama has not made foreign tours but his BA specialized in international relations. Secy Rice certainly had not visited Russia when she earned a PhD in Russian Affairs and suspect she may have been somewhat sidetracked in trying to give input on that issue. But, Pres. Bush looked into Vladimir Putin’s eyes and knew we had a friend – he said it, not me! A KGB trained Russian President! No, a degree on paper is not real experience but a better place to start than shaking lots of hands!
Posted by: tcnz | February 14, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Obama’s credibility is in the toliet. The idea of buying votes is an obamanation, your no JFK. It’s time for you to resign for the good of the democratic party.
Posted by: Sylvia | February 14, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
So, we have an article that takes as much as possible out of context so we sit in here and argue endlessly about corruption even when obvious there is none, not even on Hillary’s part. We have money that was provided to any democrat looking for re-election. Granted some of these will end up going to super-delegates but to claim that it is somehow buying votes is quite disingenuous. To claim that it is money that was used to push the democrat agenda would be accurate. Anyone who gives up voting for their favorite candidate over this just lost to republican manipulation.
Posted by: Matthew McGee | February 14, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Obama – we can no longer believe in anything you say, your a fraud. Now, let’s investigate Larry Sinclair’s alligations. This may be very interesting. Go Hillary!!!
Posted by: Milton | February 14, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Matt McGee has it exactly right. What do we expect our candidates to be? Squeaky clean little gentlemen and ladies who’ll eschew all that “dirty” money, then get trounced by the opposition? Our Supreme Court that has ruled that ‘money equals free speech,’ so even well-intentioned efforts to take the money out of politics are up against a brick wall. Let Barack and Hillary curry favor with their party’s elite! They’re doing what they need to do in order to win (at least Barack can say he got his cash from thousands of small donors who gave $25 & $50 amounts). After two terms of Bush’s rule, I want my candidate to WIN!
Posted by: brick4barack | February 14, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
When this gets down to the wire and a candidate has a lock on the nomination, it’s going to get ugly really fast. They are all losers and we need an Independent thinker and do’er to pull us out of the mess we’re in. All of you numb nuts writing here and supporting these clowns need to get a grip on reality. Obama is a FAKE. Hillary is vicious and mean and discredited a long time ago. McCain will save us from Terror but there’s a lot more to worry about as well. Huckabee has been snubbed by the media and Washington insiders so he’s out.Nader need not waste his and our time. Bloomberg could “buy” all of them and then some and might just do it. As Tom siad in his post. The American people lose…AGAIN!
Posted by: Dragon Rider | February 14, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
Hmmm… Gee… I wonder why Hillary hasn’t spent more???? Maybe because her campaign is so poorly put together…. They can’t control their spending… I’m sure, if her campaign wasn’t so “hard up for money” they would’ve outspent Obama three-two-one.
Posted by: Whatajoke | February 14, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Posted by: Paul | Feb 14, 2008 10:00:58 PM. Thank you. I pulled up the PAC’s the other day and the corporate names that collected contributions from individuals appear on both candidates’ lists. At the time, it seemed that they had donated more to the Hillary Clinton campaign. e.g. Time Warner, AT&T. Unfortunately, does anybody here even begin to think that if either candidate had not contributed toward the elected- officials superdelegates that they would get a vote? The superdelegates vote in secret. They do not have to announce who they voted for. The super delegates get to vote twice – once as an individual and once as a superdelegate. The system stinks!
Posted by: tcnz | February 14, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
Why don’t we just follow the “Golden Rule”???You know—the one says-”HE OR SHE WHO HAS THE GOLD MAKES THE RULES!!And to hell with every else.Every person running for any office has this mind set –”ME FIRST__YOU LAST_.But they will fool you in to thinking that they care about you just to get voted in to office.After they are elected–you are on own–sink or swim .Carolyn
Posted by: Carolyn Walker | February 14, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
I wonder if apologist to Obama CNN, MSNBC and other media will report on this story. Has anybody seen this story anywhere else. Just curious.
Posted by: Satish | February 14, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Get America Back on Track, There have been other candidates who have made a run for president, who were Black, and one was a Black Women and Black Women or Black men supported them the way they are supporting Obama. How about we are voting for him because he is the best candidate. Don’t try to minimize me or other Black Women by insinuating that we can’t get beyond race….you voting for her just because she is a women is just as bad as voting for him just because he is black. I am more intelligent than that. How about you?
Posted by: Ithinkformyself1 | February 14, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
i am for hilary but i think yall need to start helping people like me that .work for a living an just barely makeing it when gas goes up us poor people are the ones trhat hurt not people that have everything who can fix that
Posted by: debra hammett | February 15, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
Whenever Sen. Hillary has a negative news, many media will report it. For this news, CNN, MSNBC and Yahoo, etc. all are sleeping
Posted by: mike_88 | February 15, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
I think the article, while being informative, was quite malicious in its presentation. In the first place, why make a mountain out of molehill when the “giving” is “perfectly legal” according to the article. I mean, why bother reporting something when it’s normal? Does it mean the reporters can write about sun’s rising everyday and being able to see that article in print everyday? Come on, that’s absurd, the strangest of all follies. I think both Hillary and Obama should be slighted by this article esp. with the title “shower cash on delegates.” It seems to me like that this is not a normal contribution but rather bribery in its purest form. But whatever has been said, Obama is still my guy! He’s just trying to level the playing field knowing that if the battle will be decided by superdelagates, he has a chance to go head to head with the Clinton Juggernaut.
Posted by: aries pineks | February 15, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Not to worry: We may, may, yet all have another choice(s): “January 31, 2008.
Ralph Nader Launches Presidential Exploratory Committee to Mull ’08 Run
The same day John Edwards exited the race, longtime consumer advocate Ralph Nader launched a presidential exploratory committee to decide whether to run as an independent candidate. Nader joins us to talk about his potential run and gives his assessment of the remaining candidates in the presidential field.” Mayor Bloomberg, NY, is still staying silent on the subject, but has time to decide to run. Make life interesting if nothing else.
Posted by: tcnz | February 15, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
bah do away with these people. This is so shady. The Clinton people said these people were elected and are trusted to do the right thing. Yeah right…
Posted by: jt | February 15, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
This is for Yvonne and tcnz and other Obama supporters who don’t get it, who don’t understand why we’re hard on Obama, not as hard on Hillary. The reason is simple: Obama is the one who has been railing against super-delegates and them deciding the nomination but he’s the won spending just as much, no more on influencing and buying their votes. And reason number two is Obama is again the one who has been railing against the “politics of old”, and how he was so much better more ethical than Hillary not taking money from “Pacs” and lobbyists etc… when he is doing exacatly that. That is not change, being better ethically and honestly. That is Hypocricy!!!!!!!!!!! Plain and simple. Nothing more, nothing less. That is why people are annoyed and letting Obama have it. Hillary is no saint or necessarily better but she never claimed to be or pretended to be. That is the difference.
Again, Obama and his campaign, and you his supporters want it both ways. No dice. That is hypocritacal!!!!!! End of story.
Posted by: Devilsndust41 | February 15, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
Dear jordan clinton,
I wondering if you really understand my point. I am trying to explain that clinton a slim chance to win the nomination. I was like u before, i remembered when i spent all my time working tiredlessly days and nights working for her. It’s not just her time when i realize that i have to spent the same amount of time for Barack now because after we are dems….
I hope my dear you will follow suit too.
Posted by: kool | February 15, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
Dear fellow dems,
I am thankful that America is the most model of democracies worldwide. My friends, as dems, instead of tearing ourselves down, why don’t we just use our time and energy to generate the kind of enthousiam that one’s creating. My dears, i would like to inform u that Obama is in an unstoppable momentum position. Why don’t we just surrender and make his momentum more tremendous.
Posted by: kool | February 15, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
DEVILSNDUST; You are so right. Man, I am surprised at how surprised so many people are that posted here tonight. Good Morning! I feel happy in a way, because this was an up hill, against the wind struggle waiting for people to SEE! I feel like….Phew! Now the problem. We need a person who can deal with the Republicans. A new party isn’t going to do it. Unless of course, the person is immensely wealthy, and I am sorry, I don’t relate. I would want someone who comes from similar circumstances as to what our experiences are, or knowledge of it. Compassion. A sign that they have done work that proves a philosophy of helping the people. We need someone who thinks on their toes and is able to develop fierce loyalty that will stick all the way. Someone who won’t wimp out on too many parts of a bill and thereby weakening it, for the sake of Republican support. Someone who still has friends from their past. Someone who has proven loyalty to family and people. Okay, it’s HILLARY! We know her.
Posted by: irma | February 15, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am
People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Obama you failed dirty politics 101, you stuck your big foot in your big mouth. When you preach how your going to clean up the dirty politics, but your the dirtiest politician in the business. Your not to be trusted, it’s time for you to resign and go back to selling used cars.
Posted by: edith | February 15, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
Paul, I believe people understood the story. It’s Obama’s hypocrisy that is a rude awakening to many.
Posted by: irma | February 15, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
McCain is getting happier by the minute. I can hear it now; Obama preaches “politics of old” but he is practicing those very same politics, now. And Obama wants to be president; HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA.
Posted by: Wil | February 15, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
JDaryl477… It is not about the dirtiest player of them all. “IT IS ABOUT WHO IS BIGGEST HYPOCRITE OF THEM ALL”… No wonder OBAMA wins most of the small caucuses for $600,000 you get my vote.
Posted by: xFactor | February 15, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
How can people trust Obama, now that his dirty politics is in the public eye. Irma said it correctly, HYPOCRITE.
Posted by: sean | February 15, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am
The last time I voted it was for an Independent, Ross Perot. Before that I was a strict Democrat voter. I was finally awakened to fact that both major parties are corrupt. Realizing, that an Independent could accomplish very little while in the white house, on the surface, because congress would fight him every step of the way.
But, in reality He would of shaken both major parties to their foundations. They (both parties) would have started listening again to their constituents, in order to get some of their power back. Quite a Change from what we have today.
Let’s get real here for a moment, I thought the Democrats were supposed to be for the small guy. Yet what is this about super delegates? Just because you are a politician in congress or an elected official, you get TWO votes in the primaries and are a DELEGATE on top of that? And somehow the vote of the super delegates can override the popular vote. Doesn’t say much for the small guy does it?
I smell a RAT; I guess all the other Democrats just lost their sense of smell. I thought the Democrats were down this road once before and lost an election. Yet they do nothing to change things. In fact they promote it. The whole political system is corrupt. If the voters truly want CHANGE they would vote for an Independent, any Independent.
Posted by: joerecc | February 15, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
joerecc; are you getting a feel for Nader on here? It’s not going to happen. There are way too many problems with presentation.
Posted by: irma | February 15, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am
Irma; I don’t have a feel for anyone because the sheep (voters) will just follow the flock.
I would not be too concerned with presentation, if I were you. You should be more concerned with what will be handed to you!
Posted by: joerecc | February 15, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am
Some folk are just smarter than others…Just face the facts. Obama is just smarter than Clinton. YOU can tell it in both of their campaigns. One is in chaos and the other is spinning out win after win after win…YOU can not argue facts…If you have collected the money spend it for what its for…Winning YOUR Primary and the nomination…Way to go…
Posted by: Pacwoman345 | February 15, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
Sounds like Obama did a lot to offer “hope” and “change” in his home state of Illinois. Two HORRIBLE mass murders within two weeks of one another and this self proclaimed Dalai-bama is still campaigning without the slightest mention of the violence occurring in his state. GET YOUR HOME STATE IN ORDER OBAMA. OBVIOUSLY SOMEONE IN ILLINOIS FELT THAT THERE WAS NO HOPE OR CHANGE.
Posted by: sam | February 15, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
Get real people! These people don’t care about us beyond our vote. And now that doesn’t appear to even matter. The day they are elected they forget their campaign promises and start campaigning for re-election. Repub and dems – it doesn’t matter. What we need are term limits for these carrer politicians. someone who lives in the real world and has to return back after a couple of terms without the bloated pension.
Posted by: BSF | February 15, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am
I believe such kind of assistance to help fellow politicians of one’s party take place all the time, even from ones who harbor no ambition for the presidency. The candidates have been offering such help as far back as 2005, long before they declared their candidacy. Nor is there any evidence of any obligation on the part of the recepient to support the candidate that gave money. Politics has enough malodor about it as it is. It would help if we try not to make worse with unfounded insinuations.
Posted by: Geewiz | February 15, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am
Since money raising for election is legal,the use of it should also be legal.This so called ABCnews should be neutral. u guys seems to be racialyy inclined. Americans should be role model to the rest of the world especially to we Europeans.
Posted by: Maurice | February 15, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am
One way or another–DEMS WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT–YOU CANNOT DIVIDE US!!!!!!
Posted by: dividenconquer | February 15, 2008, 3:18 am 3:18 am
Not only can Obama fool the voters, he can also buy the election with these substantial cash giveaways to superdelegates.
What a sad state of affairs this country is in. So sad…
Posted by: Otillap | February 15, 2008, 3:24 am 3:24 am
lol! When has Hilary picked up a weapon in Iraq?. Who are you kidding? Do you expect me to believe that Obama is not the answer because he has never been to Iraq? JFK never went to Vietnam. Does that mean he wasn’t the answer? If Clinton becomes President I can guarantee we will all regret it. Even more so than we did with Bush. Republican or Democrat. It doesn’t matter. we will all suffer. Don’t say I didn’t warn you. This is a scary woman. A lot of hidden agendas and dark secrets.
Posted by: Will | February 15, 2008, 3:39 am 3:39 am
More than anything else people hate hypocrisy. Obama’s whole compaign is based on changing the culture of Washington then turns around and buys super delegates. What a hypocrite.
Posted by: Satish | February 15, 2008, 3:50 am 3:50 am
Kevin,
It’s like another Adam and Eve this time it will be the opposit
Obama will be called Ev??. and
Hillary will get closer to more Adams and Apples in the Garden of Eden.
Posted by: Gloria | February 15, 2008, 4:10 am 4:10 am
bribe or not,seems not so important as the process is legal.
Posted by: michaelth | February 15, 2008, 4:48 am 4:48 am
Some of you guys appear supply .Don’t be deceive . Read properly and understand . This money were given as contributions when these elected officials were seeking re- election . Grow up ! Obama is our man
Posted by: nick | February 15, 2008, 5:09 am 5:09 am
OBAMMA IS 46 YEARS OLD , BUT HE HAS DONE NOTHING FOR AMERICAN PEOPLE
HILLRY IS A GREAT WOMAN ! SHE DEVOTE HER WHOLE LIFE TO AMERICA !
OPEN YOUR EYES , SEE HER CONTRIBUTIONS
TO CHILDREN WOMEN ,EVERY CITIZEN OF AMERICA , SHE IS WORKING VERY HARD ! SHE HAS LOTS OF COURAGE WHICH COMES FROM LOVE!
WE NEED A PRESIDENT LIKE HER !
LOOK AT HER DAUGHTER ! THAT IS THE REAL
PROOF OF HER SPIRIT!
Posted by: HILLARY SUCCESS | February 15, 2008, 5:31 am 5:31 am
He campaigned for most of these officeholders in 2006 . The response he got is why is in the race . Bribes, are not campaign donations . Its Cash money that is given un recorded . Like the walking money that was given out to win in Nj for Hillary by her Co chairman .County ward Boss Sen Bob Menedezes,Nj. That is a bribe
Posted by: Herbert Bennett | February 15, 2008, 5:55 am 5:55 am
Use a bit of intelligence before you post your views. There’s nothing wrong with any of the candidates contributing to anothers campaign and that’s all any of this boils down to.
What really matters is knowing the Biggies that have donated to our candidates campaigns!
While Hillary Clinton was running for NYS Senator she recived hundres of thousands from pharmicuetical and insurance companies along with health care industires. SOme of her biggest contributers were DEFENCE contractors. It’s funny that once elected to the Senate she was the first NYS Senator put on the Armed Service committee, then voted FOR the war in Iraq! Bet those defense contractors loved her!
How can she reliably work with the health care and insurance people to help bring down health care costs when she is beholden to them? If you do research you can find all this info yourself.
Posted by: Op2mystic | February 15, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am
Let em tel you people: if A give a bribe of $500.000.000.000.000.000.000.00 and B donate $1.000 of birbe; B should be given 10 years in jail and A 1 year. The logic behind it is very clear. So if you talk about bribes Hillary is more briber than obama. The simpless thing any man can understand since the beginning of this campaign up to date is that Obama is the canditade of the majority so super Del. should learn from their pass mistakes.
Posted by: Serge | February 15, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am
What a non story.
All this does is provide fodder for people to spin in whatever direction will support their preconceived views.
Pathetic.
Posted by: commonsense | February 15, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
dem44hill…I think that Hillary is the best choice, baggage and all. But you are wrong; if she gets the nomination, the Obama supporters have threatened to riot in a way that will make the 60′s riots look like a picnic. How is that party unity ? Hillary supporters are threatening to vote for McCain just to keep Obama and his hypocritical politics out of the White House. Any way you look at the math, it is bad. Half of the Dems don’t like the other candidate. Half of the GOPs don’t like McCain, so it looks like another election of one quarter of the population picking our leader. Don’t dissect my math; I never claimed to be a math expert, just trying to make a scenario.
Posted by: KC | February 15, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am
Democracy is still intact since both candidates contributed to delegates.
It is still up for grabs
Posted by: BONFIRE | February 15, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am
You people that read this stuff and immediately change your mind because of what the media writes are the fools.
How can you believe everything that the media reports, when they wont reveal thier sources. You should vote for whom ever you think is the right person at this time. The one thing that I do know is that I am sick and tired of Bush and the Republican Party. They have taken our country down and in the meantime, put more and more money in there pockets. I am an Obama support, because I believe that he is the right person for right now. I was a Clinton support before, but have been turned off by there flip flopping comments. Bill Clinton did not have an experience when he was elected and he did just fine his first term.
Hillary has zero experience and just because she says that she has 30+ years of experience is one of the biggest lies and I have ever heard. If you keep believing this crap, then the Republican Party will surely win and we will be worst of they we are now. With a Recession looming. I have had enough of this.
Posted by: realty62 | February 15, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
For those of you bashing Obama saying these are “bribes” did you not read the Hillary has done it too?? Keep those stupid blinders on.
Secondly, one poster blamed Obama for the recent violence in Illinois – um, so I guess then you think Hillary is to blame for all the violence in her home state too right?! I’m sure New York has plenty to crime that is her fault…what a stupid post that was. Man are some people hypocrits.
Posted by: Jellybean | February 15, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
I am in disbelief of how easily you people blurt out SEXIST comments. Really, what decade do you live in. Calling a woman a “witch” is disrespectful and disgusting. If you’re going to be critical of the Hillary campaign, do it intelligently. Not with bigotry and sexism.
Posted by: Samantha | February 15, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
Bribe money? Campaign contributions in 2005? It is 2008 isnt it? If theres something dirty about it then it should just be illegal for any politician to contribute to another’s campaign. This is not a problem of either the candidates being dirty or bribing anyone. This is a problem with the nomination process. As long as they are playing by the rules there is nothing wrong with it. What the article fails to show is how much of these contributions were made since it was readily apparent that the Superdelegates were in a position to tip the scale to either candidate. Before you all start the name calling that solves nothing, give it some thought and think about what you are saying. Have any of you ever given money to a candidate?
Posted by: mb | February 15, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Hmmm and who is on the Ethics committee?
Posted by: Deni | February 15, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am
realty62,
I totally agree with your post! You write with common sence which is frighteningly uncommon! No one seems to research for themselves anymore and we depend ona biased media to think for us! Very dangerous! Vote you heart people! Not race, not gender! I also know super dels are not required to follow their states but for the sake of fairness they need to. As far as Florida and michigan goes, re-vote! Have the DNC pay for it since it was their crazy rules in the first place!
Posted by: Steven | February 15, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Giving money to 40% of the super delegetes is clearly a “bribe”. If it were 10% I could see how you could argue that it was not.
Posted by: ges | February 15, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
The percentage does seem high but I think it is only a bribe if he tried to cover it up. Has he disclosed this information or did the media uncover it?
Posted by: jeff | February 15, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
I’ve seen Obama’s promise land of hope and it’s not pretty. Have you been to Detroit lately?
Posted by: jas | February 15, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Handed to me? People went for Bush twice. Both times I was begging people to not go that way. People unfortunately buy what the media sells. My conscience is clear. My point was, Ralph Nader doesn’t sell well. Also he is to far left against corporations and I think that isn’t the best idea either.
Posted by: irma | February 15, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
You Obama people are blind. He is the one that puts himself above it all, but now we find out he is no different then Clinton. He can give a very good speech but we need more than that right now.
Posted by: Don, Fl | February 15, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Money can’t buy friends but it sure can buy a supper “D” vote. Who would of guessed.
Posted by: William F. E. | February 15, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
TAKEN WAY OUTTA CONTEXT!
I can’t believe how naive aAmerican Voters are… and ABC should be ashamed of themselves.
It needs to be put into context. It is completely normal, ethical and morally okay for candidates to give other candidates money. You are allowed to contribute money to candidates that you would like to support. This is part of the political process, it is not bribes it is supporting your own candidates. It is no different than a sitting President campaigning for members of his party for Congressional or Senate seats. Please note that the contribution amounts go back to 2005, this is not something that happened last week when the super delegates came into play.
ABC is just noting who is supporting whom. And the Clinton machine has been in place much longer, I bet if you go back to the contributions to these same super delegates in the 90′s you would find that the Clinton’s have given significantly more than Obama. It is because Obama is newer on the scene that he has to play political catch-up to create his alliances of support.
This is part of how DC works and it is actually one of the least offensive parts of how DC works. If elected officials didn’t create alliances and friends and support others who are friendly to their values and political stances than nothing would ever get done, it would be total gridlock.
Posted by: Whatajoke | February 15, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
When Hillary was getting the SuperDs the Obama camp was up in arms about the practice; now it is going his way, so it is alright. Double Standards, you have to love it. You can call Hillary anything that you want, first post calling her a witch. Can you imagine the fallout if you called Obama some degrading name like that? He has become untouchable by the Dems and the GOPs; what kind of system is that ?
Posted by: KC in MO | February 15, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Whatajoke…so you are saying that the candidate for “change” does business like everyone else in DC. Fascinating.
Posted by: KC in MO | February 15, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Headline: Politically Inflammatory Article With No Real Information Unleashes Torrent of Idiotic Comments: Democracy in Peril
Posted by: the voice of reason falls on deaf ears | February 15, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Please, ask the Clintons: Is there anything they forgot in the White House that they are going back to take? They’ve got nothing new to offer America.
Posted by: Easy | February 15, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Show me a place where Obama has said “I’ve never made political contributions,” and then you can call him a liar. This article is a complete non-issue, just another chance for Hillaryites to scream gotcha.
Posted by: 1234ellen | February 15, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Since when is it a crime to dream of becoming President one day?
Posted by: 1234ellen | February 15, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
I guess this is one of Obama’s great changes from the “status quo” and “Washington politics as usual”. There is something just a little disingenous about Obama.
Posted by: AmazonTraveler | February 15, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
The thought of someone just realizing that a politician might employ misleading rhetoric in order to garner momentum in a presidential bid is comical.
Posted by: johnnyhammersticks | February 15, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Tammy, you know what is so sad that people like you are so gullible that you believe everything a reporter reports. Aren’t you aware of the fact that they too have htier favorites? I am capable of reading the issues and making a decision on who I feel will make the best president and I believe it is Obama. I am tired of giving the Clintons,Bushes, Bushes and Clintons chance after chance to make America better. they aren’t able to get peope together to work together because they only know how to tear people down. i want more, I want a better America. Vote Obama.
Posted by: rle | February 15, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Wow!! I don’t like the “Vote bying” thing either, but can’t you all see that this artical used some bogus stats. It boils down to this…Obama has more to give and he did. They are both giving to delegates so what makes one better than the other on this issue? People trying to make a distinction on this are not facing reality.
“Yes We Can!!”
Posted by: Che | February 15, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
How do you people know if the money given is or isn’t to help the organizations that that deligate supports? That would make the process “ok” right? or even better on Obama’s part for giving more. Right? Why don’t we find out where the money goes?
Posted by: Che | February 15, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
OMG–WAKE UP!!—Does anyone read for comprehension before posting such “opinionated” and “critical” reactions. I know it takes some time to decipher the headlines, especially when they are inflammatory and can be misleading to the general public who has NO CLUE about these things (except for what we have heard promoted in the most recent news blurbs), but this article did NOT reference “BRIBES” for a reason——Don’t be alarmed!!!!! These contributions do not reflect poorly on anyone per se (nor is it a prime example Washington politics as usual)—-no more than your giving to causes you believe in–i.e. your presidential candidate of choice. This article is just trying to relate apples and oranges—like everything in this election–they come up with stats that are often irrelevant and try to make some sense of it. From what I can gather, they are not buying votes at all, since this “SHOWERING” PRE-Dated their run for President—-before they began collecting funds to run. So it would seem Clinton’s giving less is not a function of an underfunded campaign, since the donations would have been given before she and Obama were in a race to fund their individual campaigns and secure the votes of the super delegates.—-NO ONE is currently showering delegates, as the title insinuates/suggests–IT IS NOT A FACT–that they are giving money to the delegates DURING a campaign. So GIVE IT A REST, already!! Move on to another topic of contention, because this one is just highlighting how easily we can be moved to react out of our ignorance of the FACTS.
Posted by: YB Vigilant | February 15, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
You hit it on the head Che…Would some of you PLEASE read the original article that this article was taken from… You act as if Clinton and Obama were slipping superdelegates money in exchange for votes. This has been tracked since 2005. Obama had no idea he was running for Presidency in 2005! Additionally, the money was given to the superdelegates campaign and not to their personal bank account. It’s similar to all of the hundreds of thousands of people who have given money to this year’s campaigns (Obama, McCain, Romney, Clinton, or whoever they support). We weren’t bribing them! If you want someone to do well, you contribute. The Kennedy’s got more money from the Clinton’s than Obama but they endorsed Obama. Curious. Do some research before you drive yourself crazy…
Posted by: Bryan | February 15, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
God bles Obama,the country needs you to make a change. I am not an American but I hate war as it is intended bring death and casualties in the affected countries like the US. When will US stop humiliating other countries and stop all these wars and let people decide for peace themselves? Go Obama, the world is watching and hoping that you win this election. TKewe
Posted by: Dupsco Kewe | February 15, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
This kinda crap,from what I’ve been reading, is the reason Obama lovers love Obama.Because he wasn’t tainted.Right?Before today he could do no wrong.He didn’t know he was running for president back then?Yeah,OK!!He could smack you all right in the face and you would still think he was here to SAVE YOU!!WHY IS HE ANY DIFFERENT FROM ANY OTHER POLITICIAN?Can someone please tell me?Is it because he has a pretty smile and tells you he’s different?Well,well,saint Obama’s no saint.
Posted by: trishia | February 16, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am
Crying out loud – PEOPLE – Read the details. “GOING BACK TO 2005!” When a candidate finishes their campaign and have money left in their coffers, it is legal to donate the remainder to other campaigns.
These payments weren’t made in 2006, or 2007, or 2008! Or last week!
The headline is VERY misleading and incendiary – “Obama, Clinton shower cash on delegates” and I think their editors need to knock someone upside the head for writing it in present tense like they did.
Posted by: Lisa | February 16, 2008, 6:31 am 6:31 am
In Canada Leaders of a party on picked by insiders all the time. Their is always
political trade offs in any system. If one
party wins more votes in a election which
gives them more winning candidates across
Canada then their leader becomes Prime Minister. You don’t have much to complain
about because voters have at least partial chance to make the decision.
their leader of that party
Posted by: Ken McMullan | February 16, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
CAREFUL PEOPLE, ANYTHING YOU SAY ABOUT OBAMA CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU! what a freakin’ joke!
Posted by: okdokethen | February 16, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
As an onlooker of the political system of the USA I am amazed to find this so called democratic country may decide the Democratic Nomination for President by buying “Super Delegate” votes. What makes any one person more super than the next ? No doubt those Super Delegates all have their particular axe to grind and I also see that big money is involved too. But no matter who wins, the system is still fatally flawed when a President can overrule decisions of the peoples representatives in Congress and the Senate when it doesn’t suit him. I suggest that Democracy has somehow gone astray. One person, one vote, winner takes all, thats the decision of the people politicians are supposed to represent.
Posted by: trance_master4u | February 16, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
PEOPLE: think about it… you are a democrat with a minority status in our government, what is god’s name is wrong with offering campaign contributions to your co-senators????
The wording of this “issue” is wrong as to lead readers to think that this is some kind of a bribe, this is a way that for a long time both sides keep each other going, this was for the senatorial re-election when THEY would be running, and this was campaign contributions to THEIR campaigns, is it not? It averages somewhere like 7,500 or so per senate re-election, per senator.
Think about it, you’d do the same thing when the whole system is set up to be one against the other, maybe if we have more than two parties, or NONE AT ALL, this wouldn’t be needed, but until then, why is it wrong for one party to try everything they can do to keep themselves alive, this was not done with the hopes of buying votes, this was done mostly before he had any idea we would be where he was now. This was one democratic senator donating to another’s campaign, where is it written that WE can contribute to a campaign, but they cannot?
Posted by: Freddy | February 16, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
Some people get entangled with media spins about this presidential election and they forget what we want to achieve-CHANGE IN WASHINGTON POLITICS AND MINDSET.
WE NEED PROOF OF ANY SPINS BEFORE WE CAN MAKE SOUND JUDGMENT- IF GOVERNORS, CONGRESSMEN AND CONGRESSWOMEN RECEIVED MONEY FROM CLINTON’S OR OBAMA CAMPAIGN, WE WILL KNOW FROM OFFICIAL SOURCES, NOT FROM BLOGGERS, PUNDITS, OR MEDIA.
UNITED STATES DOES HAVE LAWS TO CHECK EVERY CAMPAIGN, AS WELL AS POLITICAL PARTIES. WE HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENTS WITH INVESTIGATORS.
ONLY AN IDIOT BELIEVES EVERYTHING BLOGGERS, PUNDITS, EVEN MEDIA DO SAY. THIS IS OPEN AND TRANSPARENT DEMOCRACY. YOU CAN GET ALL AND ACCURATE INFORMATION BY GOING TO SOURCE [CAMPAIGNS ] OR BY FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT [FOIA].
IT IS NONSENSICAL AND RUBBISH TO BELIEVE THAT A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WOULD PURCHASE DELEGATES OR SUPERDELEGATES. BOTH THE GIVER AND RECEIVER WOULD FACE THE FULL WRATH OF LAW. USE YOUR COMMONSENSE. THERE IS LOTS OF GARBAGE OUT THERE DESIGNED TO MISLED YOU. BE CAREFUL OF WHAT YOU READ.
WHATEVER YOU READ, AS YOUR SELF- Does this make sense. Common sense dictates that millions of Dollars spent on Democratic campaign, travels, debates, etc. can easily purchace enough superdelegates without making any efforts to tell American what a given candidate intends to do. It means that money would buy our presidency. What a shallow and hollow thinking.
Posted by: PRINCE ANYAKORA | February 17, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am
GAIN understanding, and be wise. Read what you may, but always ask yourself- what is this that I have read trying to tell me, and is it logical and legally sound. Ask your Senator if that is true, and source of whatever you have read. We elected Congress to make laws, represent us, and tell us the truth no matter how difficuld the truth is hard to swallow.
Posted by: PRINCE ANYAKORA | February 17, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am
The headline says: Obama, Clinton Shower Cash on Delegates
Americans are very gullible. Read and think, don not jump into conclusions.
Posted by: AY | February 17, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
The headline says: Obama, Clinton Shower Cash on Delegates
Americans are very gullible. Read and think, do not jump into conclusions.
Posted by: AY | February 17, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Sounds to me that Money can buy the Presidency!
Posted by: T Kemp | February 18, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm