By Jennifer Parker

Feb 15, 2008 9:20am

The Clintons’ Black Superdelegate Problem

As Rep. John Lewis, D-Georgia, was telling the New York Times that despite having endorsed Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, he will cast his superdelegate vote for Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, we were talking to a neutral superdelegate who had an interesting take on it all.

The highest-ranking African-American in Congress told us for our Good Morning America report this morning that the racially-tinged way in which critics charge the Clintons conducted their campaign in South Carolina is driving black superdelegates into Obama’s arms.

"The surge — if I may use that word — occurred in direct correlation to the way that campaign had been ratcheted up," said Rep. Jim Clyburn, D-SC, the House Majority Whip who has not endorsed a candidate. "Those of us who live in the South especially, we know the code words when we hear them and we understand the tone. People felt some of that was going on and they reacted to it in a very bitter way."

Clyburn said that he had heard from many black lawmakers who thought the Clintons played the race card. Clyburn said of particular offense were former President Bill Clinton’s comparison of Obama with Rev. Jesse Jackson. "It was an attempt to isolate the ethnicity of the candidate," Clyburn said.

On Capitol Hill, the lobbying from both campaigns has taken on an emotional and dramatic air. "I’ve seen a superdelegate driven to tears over this," Clyburn said. "It’s a very emotional thing. People who have been waiting for years to vote for a woman or a black find themselves conflicted having to make a choice between the two at one time. That’s very, very tough, especially on African American women."

What do you think?

- jpt

User Comments

Dems need to save their Party. The in-fighting caused by the Clinton’s race-baiting has not been forgotten, and now Clintonites speak only of Latinos, abandoning the AA base of the Party. That spells t-r-o-u-b-l-e in November.

Posted by: Penny | February 15, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am

The Clintons are now paying for past sins. She has been looking forward to becoming President and “taking care of” those that have opposed her in the past.
In true Bill Clinton style he compared Obama to Jesse Jackson showing his true feelings about blacks. He will pay for it by losing the power he so desperately desires as “co-President”.
He– he won’t even get to be co-Vice President! This couldn’t really happen to a more deserving couple!

Posted by: henry horton | February 15, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am

When you live by ‘identity politics’, you can die by ‘identity politics’. American voters are smart and experienced, they want to hear about issues.

Posted by: db | February 15, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

The Obama campaign went on national television the day after NH and started accusing white voters of being racist. They accuse whites of being racsit every time they dont get their way. Maybe Mr. Obama is not the best candidate. Saying that Mr. Obama’s voting record on Iraq is a fairy tale is not racist. It just isn’t.
The Clinton’s have spent decades fighting for blcak causes and supporting the black community. It is terriby terribly sad to see what is being done to them by blacks. No tjust because it is wring, because it will come back to bite the black community hard in the future, if not very soon. Calling the Clinton’s racist is no way to win the white house. It’s disgusting and wrong. Calling anyone racist who doesnt vote for you is wrong. Calling people racist who want to count 2 million democratic votes in Florida and Michigan, many from people of colour, is wrong.
What happens when all this racially charged outrage fails and democrats lose the white house because 2 states have been written off and some of the black community’s staunchest allies have been called racists? What happens then to the black community and future black candidates?
How sad. How truely truely sad.

Posted by: s.b. | February 15, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

I think it would be amazing if they both ended up in office. One as President & the other as VP. Race & gender should NEVER be part of any political arena. :) good luck!

Posted by: GG | February 15, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

The Dems better get it together whether it be Obama or Clinton supporters. All of this is hurting the party while the Republicans are joining forces…i.e., Romney endorsing McCain. If this keeps up we are going to have another 4 years of the same ol’ crap.

Posted by: Beth | February 15, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am

I wonder why Mrs.Clinton has a Black Superdelegate Problem?

Posted by: Pat | February 15, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

I believe in Obama’s message of unity and hope. How on earth could the Clintons compete with that? All the Clintons offer is hate and divisive politics, like their race-baiting tactics, first with african-americans and now with the mexicans. The Clintons need to be archived along with Hillary’s papers that she doesn’t want anyone to see!!!!
signed: Hopeful democrat!

Posted by: Indomable | February 15, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

Lets see now, we got McCain, Obama and
Clinton. May the best idiot win!

Posted by: bill alves | February 15, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

I wish that ethnicity and gender didn’t play a role in people’s decision on who to vote for. Listen to the candidates’ messages and determine from what you HEAR who to vote for, not by what color or shape of a person you’d prefer to SEE in the white house. Only then will our democracy begin working more effectively.

Posted by: bbb | February 15, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

Soory to burst your “race card” bubble! I have no problem! I am voting for Hillary! I am a woman first! I know the issues and Hillary has solid solutions. Some willwork some may not, but she knows the behind dealings and she will make a great effort!
African-Americans are just to blame for the situation we find ourselves in TODAY, not yesteryears! We need to concentrate on who will deliver for the American people, I am so damn tired of the race card being pulled by both Whites and Blacks! I am proud of Obama but I have issues as do millions of other americans who live in the this country!
Concentrate on the candidate you feel in your heart will truly concentrate on American issues, bring jobs back, strenghten the economy, keep people in their homes!! DO NOT VOTE FOR SOMEONE BECAUSE OF THEIR RACE, SEX, OR RELIGION!!!

Posted by: BlackFemale Clinton Supporter | February 15, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

The Democrats are fine. They are just starting to lean towards Obama. It’s a good thing.
You think the Clintons would have learned from the negative reaction to the first time they brought race into the mix. Apparently not. Maybe they just can’t help themselves.

Posted by: Chris | February 15, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

How could they do this to Hillary after all she’s done for people of color in her lifetime?! If it weren’t for Hillary (and Bill) Clinton, in what situation would they be now?

Posted by: Ross Cooper | February 15, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

And yet sexist comments are just dandy. I’m happy that racism is considered unacceptable. But come on people, I have felt attacked as a female by the way people speak of Hillary. Including the comment by Michelle Obama about Clinton unable to run her household, so how could she run a country? Or supporters saying things like “make me a sandwich”…or the use of the B-word, evil, and calling her cold.
The only difference is that sexism is laughed at, racism is taken seriously.

Posted by: Becky | February 15, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

I was raised by my grandparents (born in late 1890′s). They were simple, hard working people and they valued “common sense” when it came to making decisions. Where is the common sense in Hillary trying to change the rules vis-a-vis Florida and Michigan? I was taught that once the rules are accepted, you can’t change them to suit your hand. I was also taught that you don’t take cuts in line; it’s cheating. These seem like trivial issues but they speak to the sense of honesty and fairness that I was taught by my grandparents. I and my wife have long anticipated and hoped for a strong woman leader in the White House, but Hillary is not our gal. She touts this “35 year” thingy like it has substance; there is no beef between the buns so to speak. She and Willy have taken waaaaay too much money from the godless Chinese powers for us to ever trust them. No folks, it’s time for Obama. John McCain is one of the better choices out of DC, but when he turns just right and the light falls just right, I discern the puppeteers (lobbyist money) strings — same with the Clintons.

Posted by: tradamerican69 | February 15, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

I love how these two Georgia Congressman are now saying that they could never, ever go against the will of the people of their districts — when the people of their districts voted how many weeks ago? Profiles in courage? Not! I expect a lot of other superdelegates who have endorsed Clinton will be finding themselves in a similar squirm soon.

Posted by: kschnee | February 15, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

“People who have been waiting for years to vote for a woman or a black find themselves conflicted having to make a choice between the two at one time. That’s very, very tough, especially on African American women.” What a telling statement! Whatever happened to voting for the candidate with the best qualifications? Sure its great to have a black and a woman running with one of them ending up in the White House. But lets llect one of them because they are the most qualified to lead this country.

Posted by: Paul | February 15, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

What’s racist is when 86% of the blacks vote for Obama ‘because he’s black’…never mind his mother is white, so he is multiracial…

Posted by: Robert | February 15, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

The race card was played by the black voters in South Carolina. They flocked to Obama and discarded the Clintons, politicians who had been credited with being as black as any “white” politician could be. Why? Would blacks have voted disproportionately for Obama if he were 100% white?
This has been the criticism of black voters for a long time–consistently showing a blind loyalty based solely on color, even to the point of electing felons. The message is sent clearly. You’re only as good as the color of your skin, no matter how much you advocate for their rights. Which is why non-black minorities will not vote for Obama.

Posted by: Jeff | February 15, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

Unlike Obama, the Clintons have too many skeletons in their collective closet to expect people to forget their past: stealing White House property when leaving office, Whitewater, Travelgate, multiple “bombo-eruptions”, impeachment for perjury, and more.
Some will try to say that that was Bill’s fault, not Hillary’s. They are forgetting their campaign promise of old that when we vote for one (of them), we are getting two (them both).
The last thing we need is Bill Clinton back in the White House without being restrained by the affairs of state to help occupy his time. Just recall the damage he did to the Office of the President when he WAS partially occupied by such things.
Obama may not be perfect, but he has less baggage, and a better track record of honesty than any Clinton to have served in the White House of Senate in the past 100 years.

Posted by: Robert Scott | February 15, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

It’s a sad commentary on a life of commitment to the black community when all that can be seen is color and not a life time of support.

Posted by: susan panse | February 15, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

It is sad that so many people are still not intelligent enough, actually I should say cognizant enough, to recognize the “media spin” being placed on all of the primaries and politics for the presidential race. The media essentially has decided who they like or favor, and now they are trying to sway voters to their particular candidate. For instance, the media are all too aware that most people love a good “David versus Golliath” story or the “under dog winning against the odds” type of story-it makes good entertainment. This is how they’re making (at least) the democratic primary race seem. The hard-working, intelligent, grass roots Obama (David) versus the intelligent old solid political machine of Hiliary (former media dubbed giant). Instead of giving people the facts and presenting the news the media creates the news and uses pieces of information to try and create facts. It is not the “Clinton” machine that is making this a black/white/female/male issue. It is the political press media circus that is, and both Obama & Clinton press/media people are to blame. People really should think hard about jumping on the seemingly “popularity band wagon.” Spend some time trying to get OBJECTIVE facts on where the candidates really stand, what their political strengths and weaknesses may be. I do not dislike Obama. I used to live in Illinois. However, his rapid rise within the party & politics raises many questions. What the media has not made a big issue of (I’m surpirsed) are his “connections” that contributed significantly to his early rise when he first appeared on the political scene (but oh how they hammer Hiliary’s perceived connections). No candidate just appears & succeeds so rapidly unless they’re “backed” behind the scenes by people w/ significant political influence and/or deep pockets. So, before chosing the democratic candidate people should tune out the media hype and spend time getting the real/objective facts and then make an informed choice.

Posted by: DCT | February 15, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am

First we had Bill Clinton claiming he was the first Black President, and then he was claiming beceause Jesse Jackson lost twice in S. Carolina that he was a questionible candidate.
Now that that has backfired, they want to go against the DNC to seat the delegates she won when Edwards and Obama refused to campaign in Michigan abiding by the wishes of the DNC National committee.
They look desparate. Having been a long time democrat, I wouldnt vote for this dynasty if Hillary promised to give me all the oil in Alaska.
If this election over to the super delegates and dismiss the wishs of the majority, I will be voting independant.
As a citizen of Michigan, I think the only fair thing to do, is NOT TO SEAT ANY DELEGATES FROM FLORIDA OR MICHIGAN PERIOD.
I am mad as hell that the State Party hacks are trying to tilt this election.
I am voting for Obama in November because he will unify this country, not divide it.
Electing Hillary will be a vote for business as usual and cronyism politics.

Posted by: louis | February 15, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am

The way the Obama campaigners have attacked the opposing non-black delegates as racist is a predictable but heinous move. The white democrats have flocked to Obama’s campaign as only simpering white liberals can: with unconditional approval and a guilt-driven vehemence that injects their intolerance and vitriol into every aspect of the campaign. Stop the hatred, people, and use your heads.

Posted by: Scott | February 15, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am

So this means white Superdelegates Kerry and Kennedy must now vote for Clinton right? or does this flip flop only apply to black Superdelegates?

Posted by: geevill | February 15, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

The Clinton Machine has not been running on all cylinders, and it looks too late for a tune-up. I don’t believe Hillary has what it takes to win. She is too mechanical and seems to lack the spontaneity of a person with real convictions. If the Democratic party continues feeding upon itself the Republicans will win in a walk.

Posted by: Matt | February 15, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

No one from the Obama campaign or the major media has called the Clintons racist. In fact, many have noted the Clintons’ history of working to advance civil rights. What has been highlighted is the fact that Bill Clinton and several Clinton campaign surrogates, such as Bob Kerrey, have practiced dog whistle politics. The code words and the tone is there. And it strains belief that the Clintons, who are such experienced political operators, do not know that. Maybe that is why Obama is winning now not just in blue states, but also red states. And in Virginia, a former Confederate state, he won the majority of the women’s votes, the majority of blue collar voters, and 55 percent of white male voters. It appears that voters are basing their choices not on the color of the candidate’s skin, but on the quality of his character and the judgment that he has shown on issues including steadfast opposition to the Iraq war, growing the economy, and providing universal health care without resorting to government mandates.

Posted by: Jonathan | February 15, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

The Clintons will say anything to get elected, anything. And while that has helped them with some people, it’s hurt them with others – they are their own worst enemy.

Posted by: Steve | February 15, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

PEOPLE KEEP SAYING “WHO IS BETTER TO RUN OUR NATION?”, TAKE A LOOK AT MR. OBAMA: READ “OBAMA’S RISE THROUGH SPECIAL INTERESTS”, “OBAMA AND NUCLEAR LEAKS”, “OBAMA’S VOTING SLEAZE”, “OBAMA AND TONY REZKO”, AND “REZKO WATCH”.
PEOPLE TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO READ!

Posted by: Noah | February 15, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

Am I the only one who votes for a candidate because of their stated views? I hear so much crap about voting for race, or popularity, or party or sex… what happened to endorsing someone because you shared a similar set of beliefs as they did? Non-existant, evaporated, not unlike any semblance of “public service” that politicians are elected to perform.
Obama is not pro-African-American, he’s pro-African/Muslim. I hope one of these nuts gets into office; either socialist Clinton or Muslim-fanatic Obama… maybe something as disgusting as them leading our country will shake us from our lethargic cowardice.

Posted by: Thales | February 15, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

You know I’m sure the Obama camp would be calling everyone racist if they didn’t allow Florida and Michigan’s delegates to vote at convention if he had won these states. 100% sure. It’s so cheap and so sad to misuse this word. It diminishes real acts of rascism and real victims of racism to talking points and politics.

Posted by: s.b. | February 15, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

Has everyone lost their mind? Maybe Clinton wrote off SC because she is strapped for cash and wants to spend her money on states where she has a better chance of getting a good win. And I’m so irritated at this whole race issue. If someone says the African American community is voting black for the sake of voting black, they are racist. Well I’m sorry, but some people flat out support Obama because he’s black. Just admit it! Pull up an archive of “The View” if you don’t believe me. If you want an honest candidate, start by being honest yourself. Racism works both ways–you can not like a race and you can blindly follow a race–it’s all racism. People will do anything they can at this point to slander Hillary Clinton. It’s sad to see that Obama’s followers are the first to start the slander campaign.

Posted by: Chris | February 15, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

I guess s.b. missed all the times when Clinton played the “gender card” (that’s when she lost me)…unfortunately, both candidates aren’t above playing the special interest cards. db is right on…

Posted by: Lance | February 15, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

What the Heck, first of all Hillary never should have gotten Bill involved in her campaign to begin with. Now the damage has been done. Hillary is doomed, she will not win the nomination. They thought they had the nomination in the bag and now all they have is an empty bag

Posted by: Michael | February 15, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am

Obama is green – let’s face it. Hillary Clinton has a life-time of dedicated service to this country as does her husband. They have supported African Americans from the get-go. We need to do what is best for this country and not squabble over words. Hillary Clinton is BEST for this country.

Posted by: Becca | February 15, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am

I’m a lifelong Republican who voted for Obama in Tuesday’s Primary even though he will be more difficult to beat in November by the Republican candidate. There is a good chance the next president will be a Democrat and like in 1980, it’s ABC again (“Anybody but Carter” has been replaced by “Anybody but Clinton”).

Posted by: Ken | February 15, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am

I have been a Obama fan for some time now, however the more I hear him speak the more I’ve come to realize that he has become a master great speeches that say nothing. He keeps talking change and I have eagerly waited to hear what those changes will be but so far nothing. I am starting to fear another President that campaigns’ on nothing so if elected he is free to do anything he pleases.
Clinton on the other hand has been a rock so maybe I’ll wait to support Obama when he has some history behind him just to be sure.

Posted by: JT Chisholm | February 15, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

The two campaigns were going fine until Bill Clinton got involved and made those subtle but racially charged insinuations about Obama.
Leading up to the South Carolina primary, Obama was playing the “change” card” and Clinton was playing the “experience” card. Then for some desperate reason the Clintons began to use the “race” card.
It was very disapointing because many in the black community previously held him in very high regard. That cost her my vote and the vote of many superdelegates.

Posted by: Robert G | February 15, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

The Clintons will say anything to get elected, anything. And while that has helped them with some people, it’s hurt them with others – they are their own worst enemy.

Posted by: Bill | February 15, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

Please vote based on issues and the candidates qualifications to work on the issues. Voting for someone because he is black is just as racist as not voting for someone because he is black. Voting for someone because she is a woman is just as sexist as not voting for someone because she is a woman.

Posted by: Jessica | February 15, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am

Blacks are not supporting Obama simply because he’s black. Two weeks before the South Carolina their support was evenly split between him and Clinton. It was the race baiting by Bill Clinton that drove them away. And yes race baiting is racist, so I’m shedding no tears for the Clintons.

Posted by: Rich | February 15, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am

The answer is clear – Oprah for President.
“It’s a very emotional thing. People who have been waiting for years to vote for a woman or a black find themselves conflicted having to make a choice between the two at one time. That’s very, very tough, especially on African American women.”

Posted by: G.A. | February 15, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am

Blacks are the one’s being racist. Clinton has done more than anyone for the black community. Now see what they are doing to them in the name of color.
If anyone ever screams racing ever again, I am not hearing it, ever agin.
You want equality, you need meet half way and not being blinded by your color.
The biggest dissappoint for the black will be that Obama will loose the General Election and that will be the end of Obama the Mesiah

Posted by: Cerebral | February 15, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Funny…I always thought that the president should be picked by their ability to run this country and do so in an effective manner. Since when does race or sex enter into that equation? The whole mess has devolved into another “lesser of two evils” kind of thing and where does that help the population of the United States? We’ve had enough of that in the past…..

Posted by: Mac | February 15, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Here’s the question: Who do you think would do more to advance the plight of women and minorities in America and the world over the next four years: Brian Moore or Condoleeza Rice? I realize you don’t know who Brian Moore is because opposition parties have effectively been banned in the US. But the idea that a president’s skin color or gender is a boon to those who share it is a fallacy. Here’s a tip for all these torn superdelegates who’ve been dying to vote for a woman or “a black” all these years: Vote for Cynthia McKinney, of the Green Party ticket.
It’s a shame you and the mass media are so in the pocket of the republicrat cartel.

Posted by: Phil | February 15, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

People kill me when they state “Remember all the work the Clintons did for black people.” So basically that means you’re not voting for Hillary you’re voting for Bill again. Name something Hillary has done. Remember Bill signed NAFTA into law and it’s killing the average american worker because all of those jobs are going overseas which of course hurts Black people first.

Posted by: PB | February 15, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

I find it very ironic that the same wedge issues that the republicans used to bring conservative christians to the polls, is exactly whats splitting the republican party up.
if you think a gop member will win the white house, you are brain damaged.
liberals and conservatives belong in the same cesspool.

Posted by: Dan Verner | February 15, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

The Obama campaign and surrogates and representatives ahve repeatedly called the Clinton’s racist. It’s making me sick to may stomach, not just because it’s wrong because it diminishes the entire concept and it will hurt black people in the end. It will hurt poor black people. It will hurt black women. It will hurt entire black commmunities when politicians see what will be done to them by the black community no matter how many decades one spends working for black causes. This will not end well and it will not hurt rich white fold or well educated lattee sipping white men. It will hurt poor black people and future black politicians. It is revolting and awful and terribly terribly sad, not to mention wrong. It will also lose the democrats the white house, which will mean an awfully long time before another black candidate is considered for the job.

Posted by: s.b. | February 15, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

In response to Jeff,being half-white makes you ALL black.If there is any doubt, try being “half” white when the cops pulls you over. You can bet your butt that you are all black then. As black people, we KNOW that if you are ever unsure if you are all black…. someone will remind you. And if Obama were someone who CLEARLY shouldn’t be president, like Al Sharpton, he wouldn’t get the black vote simply becuase he is black. Stop talking about Black people like we are stupid enough to vote for “the black candidate” instead of who we think is actually best. We recognize who is who. Barack has a more honest, cleaner track record. Less baggage and will bring people together unlike Hillary. And he’s not crazy enough to press “the” buttom like McCain. Please stop with the “blacks are voting Obama because he is black”. Duh, if were the only people voting for him, MAYBE, you would have a litte support for that argument. But that is not the case, is it?

Posted by: Nisa | February 15, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

Regarding S.B.s comments – You are right it is sad – that after years of supporting black causes that the Clintons would turn to race baiting to win an election. It’s not just Sad – it’s a Shame. Keep them out of power – they are just a mild version of the Bush Clan

Posted by: Jackson | February 15, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

what would make anyone think that Obama can unify the country? He can not even unify the socialists. I will be crossing over in the ohio primary to vote for hussein obama just to keep the clintons out of office. If he wins in novemebr, I will write him every day until I get my piece of his $845 billion dollars in spending increases.

Posted by: James | February 15, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

Regarding S.B.s comments – You are right it is sad – that after years of supporting black causes that the Clintons would turn to race baiting to win an election. It’s not just Sad – it’s a Shame. Keep them out of power – they are just a mild version of the Bush Clan

Posted by: Jackson | February 15, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

The superdelegates switching their allegiance from Clinton to Obama are in or associated with states whose primaries Obama won overwhelmingly. The use of superdelegates smacks of elitism in the first place; if a superdelegate in an Obama state – especially an African-American superdelegate, cast his or her vote for Clinton at the convention . . .? Well, it would seem downright Republican, wouldn’t it.

Posted by: Shawn | February 15, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

The Obama campaign and surrogates and representatives have repeatedly called the Clinton’s racist. It’s making me sick to my stomach. Not just because it’s wrong, because it diminishes the entire concept and it will hurt black people in the end. It will hurt poor black people. It will hurt black women. It will hurt entire black commmunities when politicians see what will be done to them by the black community, no matter how many decades one spends working for black causes. This will not end well and it will not hurt rich white folk or well educated lattee sipping white men. It will hurt poor black people and future black politicians. It is revolting and awful and terribly terribly sad, not to mention wrong. It will also lose the democrats the white house, which will mean an awfully long time before another black candidate is considered for the job.

Posted by: s.b. | February 15, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

what would make anyone think that Obama can unify the country? He can not even unify the socialists. I will be crossing over in the ohio primary to vote for hussein obama just to keep the clintons out of office. If he wins in novemebr, I will write him every day until I get my piece of his $845 billion dollars in spending increases.

Posted by: James | February 15, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

Hillary Clinton is the second coming of Karl Marx!

Posted by: foxfire | February 15, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Poor Hillary.

Posted by: Billy | February 15, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

I worry a lot that Hillary campaign is dividing Democrats which will only help Republican candidate in November.
It is almost indistinguishable if the attack against Obama came from Hillary camp or if it came from McCain camp, including RNC.
Hillary camp is increasingly becoming a ‘traitor’ in the Party.
I just hope she steps aside for the sake of Democratic Party, for the Country, and for the World.
Hillary did not run to challenge George Bush in 2004. Why did she not? Aren’t you ever curious?? I think the Clintons are a very close friend of the Bushes, secretely.

Posted by: Charlie | February 15, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

I completely agree with db. How sad to portray the Clintons as racists. People should wake up and analyze his remarks in the context of was he was refering to. It is just unfair. The Obama camp is engaged in an infair game calling anything and everything as raicist.
If Obama camp says it is racist then no harm done. But, when Hilary camp says you are polarizing…then it is racist. What sort of reasoning is it!
If Chelsea goes campaining for her mother…according to a great reporter..it is pimping out. If Mrs. Obama or Caroline Kennedy goes out campaining, it is just and heroic and welcomed as “our favorite daughter’s” endorsement. . Afterall these two (the Clintons)have (even with their human frailities) have devoted their life to serve this country and to make this country great. Be reasonable…even in your criticism.
The electorate is just mad…has gone mad!

Posted by: drg | February 15, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am

I am a supporter of Senator Obama.
However, I have “some” problems with some Obama supporters. I think it is ridiculous to claim that if one doesn’t support Obama, then you are a racist, especially you are non-black.
And on the other side, if you are a black, then people will assume that you are supporting Obama.
Well, this election is the most complicated one ever, and I hope that this democratic presidential nomination will end with peace. As soon as the convention is over, the democratic party needs to reconciliate and bring everything back.

Posted by: David | February 15, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

The problem i have is people who vote “as a {your minority here}”. The candidates, the media, everyone seems to be trying to split us apart to win our votes: The Clinton camp expecting to win “women and non-college-educated-whites”, the Obama expecting to win “blacks and white men”. Does the line “United we stand, divided we fall” ring a bell to anyone. Vote for a candidate with positions you respect who you believe can implement them – I don’t carte what color or gender a candidate is: if they are socially liberal and fiscally conservative, they have my support.

Posted by: Miles | February 15, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

I bet it’s tough to keep flashing that fake smile as you feel yourself slipping down the tubes. I am a Republican who will vote for Obama if he gets the nomination. We’ve had enough of the Clintons and the Bush family.

Posted by: Johnnie Raye | February 15, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am

How come when people say that black people bloc vote it is racist? All we ever hear is how Christians bloc vote. Look at the result of the 2004 election. Christians split their vote pretty evenly. Blacks voted for Kerry 85 or 90%. And Christian bloc vote? Black people are voting for Obama because he is black. Why is it racist to say that? Why else would they be voting for him? All 3 of his years in the US Senate where he has written no legislation? Or the fact that he was “against” a war he was in no position to vote for or against? It is easy for him to say he would not have voted for the war, but how do we know what he would have done? For all the talk about how progressive and tolerant the democrats are they are the ones that are making race an issue.

Posted by: rusty shackleford | February 15, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

I have a problem with 4 yrs of Bush, 8 yrs of Clinton, 8 yrs of Bush and potentially 4 yrs of Clinton. Is this 17th Century England? I fear for the validity of our democracy when executive power is passed between two families for more than 2 decades. I can’t believe this isn’t pointed out – at no time in the history of the country did anything like this happen except with two seperate 4 year stints with Pres. Cleveland. I, like others, would like to see the Democratic decision made long before the convention. I would hope that the next few states recognize the capacity they have to bring everyone under one tent by resoundingly voting for Obama and getting the new Democrat show on the road.

Posted by: Dana | February 15, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

Let’s talk about the race card. Remember the unbiased, fair, and politically wholesome Oprah Winfrey? Enough said.

Posted by: saundra | February 15, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

Well, all this talk of racism. Funny how that works, even with the dem party elite.
Seems to me it’s just another cheap political party trick being woven, on the voters, one more time by the masters of the party. Wake up and smell the coffee people. Vote for character not a party and we’ll all win. We have been robbed by this devisive technique long enough, calm down and think then vote…Good luck.

Posted by: Joe | February 15, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

I’ve always been pretty conservative, but I have to tell you, I like a lot of what Obama says. I (like so many others) am tired of good ol’ boy/girl politics, and the Clintons embody that for me (as do all the Republican candidates). My #1 requirement for voting is to find someone who’s been in the political system as short a period of time as possible, because it just seems to corrupt people over time. The Clintons have been in “the game” way too long, and Hillary’s shady past with her legal firms makes me very uncomfortable.
While I hate that there are racists both for and against Obama, and sexists both for and against Clinton, that just comes with free voting. There were people who voted for Reagan because he was an actor, it’s just human psychology to have preferences. The only thing that scares me is that if Obama wins he might feel obligated to give preferential treatment to the racial groups that helped him get elected, or if Clinton wins that she might feel obligated to give preferential treatment to the groups that got her elected (labor unions in particular). I know this comes with politics, and the Republicans have COMPLETELY done this with the oil companies, but my appeal to Obama would be if you win, focus on issues that have been ignored by the current administration (healthcare, alternative fuel R&D, global warming initiatives) but don’t cater to special interest groups regardless of their current push to get you elected. Those groups only want a puppet (just like the oil companies wanted and got) but they don’t serve the good of the majority of citizens in this country. If the next president does nothing but address healthcare and help establish real advancements in electric/hybrid/hydrogen engines for cars through extreme tax breaks for manufacturers and buyers, or even directly invest in the R&D required to get this country weaned off oil, we will be a much stronger country in 4 years than we are today.

Posted by: Timothy Tripp | February 15, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

Becky @ Feb 15, 2008 10:08:51 AM
Isn’t it also sexist to lie about Michelle Obama saying things about Clinton that she never said, just to make her look bad as a woman?
Michelle Obama’s comments about keeping her own house in order very obviously and clearly refer to herself, her husband and their children when you look at the entire interview.
Your cheap shot trying to undermine one woman by pretending that SHE tied to undermine another is despicable (and sexist).

Posted by: Ellen | February 15, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

I am a firm beleiver that people should not be judged by the color of their skin. But I know I live in a world where others do not necessarily beleive this. This is just a fact of life at this point in time. After careful consideration of their experience and plans to help this country move forward, I support Senator Clinton. It is upsetting that remarks indicating that some people are not ready to support a black candidate are condemned, but Jessie Jackson Jr.’s attempts to influence black superdelegates by telling them that they should vote for Obama so as not to prevent a black man from taking the White House or threatening them that a vote against Obama could ruin their careers, is not eliciting critism.

Posted by: Karen | February 15, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

If the Clinton’s are racist, then I must be some kind of monster in a white cape because I haven’t dedicated decades to helping black communities.

Posted by: s.b. | February 15, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

Anyone who would vote for a Democrat or a Republican at the National level is a complete retard. It’s a one-party, corporate-controlled plutocracy. It’s not just Reagan and Bush who punished the thirld world and crushed democracy around the globe. It was also Clinton, and Carter, and Kennedy, and Johnson.
Having Obama in office isn’t going to be too terribly different from having Bush serve a third term, other than we may get raises for the first time in 7 years.

Posted by: Jack | February 15, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

Please… a “Black” problem? Hillary’s problem, and Obama’s surge is a result of the party’s changes to the process, the media’s influence thru negative coverage and the difference in campaign styles. You can’t blame Hillary for the irrational Clinton hate spewed by so many talking heads (weren’t no charges lodged against her in Whitewater? Was it really so much worse than Mr. VP and Haliburton?)
We can blame her for being a policy wonk and touting her experience over a new vision of hope. In a general election, Obama is going to have quite a time justifying his “liberal” views. And the GOP is going to kneel at Obama’s feet too? We all want change…the devil is in the details.

Posted by: UberDem | February 15, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

Here’s a shot of honesty:
I think it would be wonderful if Mr. Obama wins the Democratic nomination and goes on to win the presidency, based on the facts that:
1. He brings a fresh, new flavour to politics – he’s smart, he’s energetic, he has a great leadership style, and he has a good conscience.
2. He obviously enjoys what he is doing, and frankly, if you enjoy your job, you’re usually good at it;
3. It would be wonderful to know that the great America is mature enough to elect the best man for the job, inspite of his colour!
If that makes me politically incorrect and racist, sue me!

Posted by: Jacqueline | February 15, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

Hillary Clinton made two serious mistakes:
1. Race baiting in S. Carolina.
2. Losing control of her campaign finances.
With regard to the second point, there was a breakdown in communications between Hillary Clinton and Patti Solis Doyle, her campaign manager, to such an extent that Solis Doyle was unable to communicate the exact state of finances to her Clinton and Clinton decided to not inform Solis Doyle of the decision to inject $5 million of her own money into the campaign. My question is what kind of an organization is Clinton running where such a serious breakdown of basic communication at such a high level is allowed to occur? Is Clinton’s organization so rigidly scripted that any negative feedback is discouraged? That kind of organization in the present Bush Administration brought us into the mess called Iraq.
A person (a DEMOCRATIC candidate of all people) who engages in race baiting to the detriment of her own political party and discourages honest communication within her own organization does not deserve to be president.
She is the kind of tough, intelligent, tenacious, well-educated person the Oval Office desperately needs. Unfortunately, her recently demonstrated character and lack of basic organizational skills demand that this Democrat support Barack Obama.

Posted by: Robert G | February 15, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

personally, i am to the point where i say give me a republican, all the race issues and all that crap make you tired of trying to find out what issues are important to that candidate, right now where do Obama and Clinton stand on what is important the welfare of this nation, no one knows do they.. personally i would like to know who cares about the american people??

Posted by: tammy | February 15, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

obama fever I had it!lasted about 2 week .until i realized he was just like the others.

Posted by: hank hill | February 15, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

What ever happened to the words of Martin Luther King:
“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”
Isn’t going exactly against the wishes of Martin Luther King for any black person to vote for Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. just because he is black? Wouldn’t they be “judging him by the color of his skin” and not “the content of his character?” Now, I may think he has to character of worth, but that is a different topic…

Posted by: mm | February 15, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

Please check Mrs.Clinton record in New York State.She will use America as she used NYS
WAKE UP AMERICA

Posted by: Michael | February 15, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

JT Chisholm – You have the “concern troll” routine down pat! Your post makes it abundantly clear that you were never a real supporter of Obama’s or you would already be aware of his detailed and thorough policy plans (all publicly available on his website for months).
Nice try to shill for Clinton, though. Too bad it was so transparent.

Posted by: ellen | February 15, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

This country has seen and heard enough from and about the clintons, both Hill and Bill. The good that they may have done has been wiped out by their ego-driven attitude about “Me first, everything else last”. The sooner they retreat to Little Rock, the better the country will be.

Posted by: Tony Guarino | February 15, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

This country has seen and heard enough from and about the clintons, both Hill and Bill. The good that they may have done has been wiped out by their ego-driven attitude about “Me first, everything else last”. The sooner they retreat to Little Rock, the better the country will be.

Posted by: Tony Guarino | February 15, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

I don’t vote on race or gender, I vote for who I feel will be the best for what our nation needs, no matter what race, gender, or party…. this year my vote has been for Obama from day one, and I’m not Black, or white I’m white and American Indian, but most of all I’m An American…..And one American who is tired of hearing about RACE…..Obama is half white and half Black, in short he has a good tan…..

Posted by: Judith | February 15, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

The racial nature of Hillary Clinton’s campaign – whether it is concerns the Africanness of Obama or is directed to Hispanics – is indicative of a meanness of spirit, and a shallowness of vision that would handicap her as a good leader. She has lost the plot. A leader cannot play the race card, divide the people for temporary advantage, and later seek to unite them in victory. The divide-and-rule spirit is alien to all the claims is good about her candidacy.

Posted by: Shumi | February 15, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

The Democrats have always been the ones to see race everywhere, in every issue, in every motivation. “The term “racism” is the same blackmail that “heretic” was in the middle ages.
The Democrats have never done anything for the African Americans but use them for their votes. Now, they’re ready to dump all over their promises and Blacks’ aspirations to court the Latinos the same way. Do you ever wonder how the Blacks are going to become fully employed when the Latins are taking all the jobs?
I would like to see a competent, intelligent African American woman set a wonderful example as the president or vice-president nominee. But if one does, it will be the Republicans nominating Condoleeza Rice, just like they brought on Colon Powell and Clarence Thomas. (Of course, THomas, presumably, doesn’t count. Wrong agenda. He doesn’t believe in the abortion of African American babies.)
Rice wouldn’t be accepted either, because it wouldn’t be a race-based achievement with a race-based agenda.

Posted by: Jay Mack | February 15, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

The problem as I see it is Hillary does have more experence, but the baggage she carries will no doubt be what the GOP will use to make a very dirty campain. I agree with many of the readers that it is not and should not be about race or gender. But rather who can and should be elected. I like Hillary and I would like to see her get a chance to get into office. And Obama just does not have the experance to lead the contry. If Hillary is not the Dem Canidate I will be voteing for McCain.

Posted by: Ken | February 15, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am

The increasingly racial nature of Hillary Clinton’s campaign – whether it is concerns the African-ness of Obama or is directed toward Hispanics – is indicative of a meanness of spirit, and a shallowness of vision that would handicap her as a good leader. She has lost the plot. A leader cannot play the race card, divide the people for temporary advantage, and later seek to unite them in victory. The divide-and-rule spirit is alien to all she claims is good about her candidacy.

Posted by: Shumi | February 15, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

So a old white man, a white woman and a black man entered a bar…. If only politics were such a joke. As a conservative white male maybe I don’t have the sensitivity to the race or gender cards that many do, but if you remove the pictures of the candidates, and just wrote down a column of their positions, accomplishments and character, I think we’d have much more informed voting. I’m against quotas in all their forms, including representation in politics. May the best candidate win; man, woman, black, white or other.
PS. Let’s not forget the first serious woman candidate was Elizabeth Dole, or that fear of racism kept Colin Powell’s wife from encouraging his candidacy. I do believe and recognize that racism and sexism are alive in this country, but as many have pointed out, endorsing someone for their race or gender is promulgating the problem, not fixing it.

Posted by: Mike | February 15, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

What bothers me greatly is that people continually say that Hillary is experienced and Barack to green. The last time I checked, neither candidate has been president of the United States. To make assumptions that she is more experienced than Barack based on her husband being a former president, then we all might as well vote for Michelle Obama for Senate or Laura Bush should just run for president in four years. They both are a gamble and that is why we listen to debates and speeches to find out what the person is made of and has planned for the country. If we based everything on experience, then John Edwards would have ran away with the nomination. People assume that Hillary is basically Bill and that she inherits his experience by default, when in actuality they are very different people. I have based my vote on character, morals, experience and objectives. I have no problem stating that I support Obama. Race plays no part in that. To me, he is just the right person for the job at this moment in time.

Posted by: Victor | February 15, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am

I think this is a defining moment for the Clinton’s, whether they have been fighting for themselves (their position of political power and glory) or equitable justice for the African Americans and the average people. We know they sacrificed a lot to bring the African American issues to the front. Now that the fruit of their hard work is ripe, they should enjoy it,not destroy it. People would question their motives if they tore down what they had built.
This race, as any other in the future, should not be about the color of the skin or the gender of the candidates but the content of his/her promises and the commitment to fulfil the them. The Clintons should play a reconcilatory role for the party and the nation rather than a divisive one, as it may sound.

Posted by: T.Lendado | February 15, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am

I think this is a defining moment for the Clinton’s, whether they have been fighting for themselves (their position of political power and glory) or equitable justice for the African Americans and the average people. We know they sacrificed a lot to bring the African American issues to the front. Now that the fruit of their hard work is ripe, they should enjoy it,not destroy it. People would question their motives if they tore down what they had built.
This race, as any other in the future, should not be about the color of the skin or the gender of the candidates but the content of his/her promises and the commitment to fulfil the them. The Clintons should play a reconcilatory role for the party and the nation rather than a divisive one, as it may sound.

Posted by: T.Lendado | February 15, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Hillary is about as authentic as a recycled aluminium can. The poor woman has twisted herself in so many directions, in order to please, that she has no idea who shew is.
We get asnew Hillary every two or three weeks.
And as to her expertise and experience, how come she’s done so little in her eight years as Senator? Surely she could have at least giving a preview of all her promises….cuz, well, frankly, she considered an “extremely poor” legislator. 2 bills passed in 8 years.

Posted by: Rob L. | February 15, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

I think Hillary did play the race card in SC, but I think it needed to be played. Her comment about Johnson is a reminder that Kennedy although inspiring was not a very good President. On foreign policy his inexperience led to the Cuban Missile Crisis, the Bay of Pigs, and Vietnam. He got nothing done on his domestic agenda. It took Johnson to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Medicare in 1965. His knowledge of the mechanics of statecraft made the difference. That said I think Obama is more sure-footed than Kennedy. But we are banking a lot on his ability to learn quickly and apply those lessons with authority. The Jackson analogy was a reminder that so far this has been played intramurally. Jackson, despite his strength within the Democratic Party, stood no chance in a general election. Will Obama and his call for Change through Unity fare well against McCain in prime time when the contest is no longer in the cloistered confines of the Dem Party? Remember, the Republicans will attack not just Obama’s weaknesses but his strengths. His negatives will go up. So far Obama has done well in the swing states. That’s a good sign. I wanted Obama to get some experience in handling negative attacks. I wanted to see how he would react. So far: very well. But the attacks have been very gentle, mainly because they’ve backfired. So we don’t know yet how he would do against the concerted fire of an experienced attack machine. Lastly, remember what this is all about: movement conservatives have been on a concerted and successful campaign to reverse the New Deal and return America to pre-Roosevelt days. They almost managed to kill Social Security most recently. The electoral success of Republicans is all about race. It is almost entirely explained by the switching of the South from Democrat to Republican. Republicans have mastered dog-whistle politics. I want to see signs that the Obama campaign understands what they are in for and are ready to protect their flanks.

Posted by: John Dougherty | February 15, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

Its amazing how many idiots we have voting in this country when they make statements such as they wanted to elect a black or woman canidate.What ever happened to voting for the best person for the job.This just shows how biased liberals are.Suddenly liberals are jumping ship on Billery and i an just luvin it to death.

Posted by: frank vattelana | February 15, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

The Clinton party is over. Here’s why:
-Obama has a 100+ lead in electoral delegates.
-For the remaining states, Hillary has to not only win TX, OH, and PA, but win them BIG (20 points plus), and then win more states, to cut into this lead.
-Because it is virtually impossible for her to do so, Obama will be ahead in electoral delegates at the convention.
-By that point, the super-delegates will have coalesced around him. If the super-delegates chose Hillary, with fewer electoral delegates, than Oba, there will be a party revolt and the Dems will lose in November (and rightfully so). The same thing will occur if FL and MI delegates are seated, without adjustments.
-Thus, Obama should have the nomination locked up.

Posted by: Al | February 15, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

I have always voted and voted democratic but with the in fighting in the party, I view the process as corrupt no matter who wins.I will for the first time stay home come November.

Posted by: YEZUZ | February 15, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

All the race card hype was played up by the media and people who were wearing magnifying glasses. In this circumstances, all black votes going for Obama because of race shows the weakness of Obama.
He may win to be the candidate for Dems, but I foresee he would eventually lose to McCain.
Because the continued resentment towards Hillary and distorting of her or her husband’s words will anger a lot of people too.

Posted by: Tony | February 15, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

Obama is best at picking up the black and independent anti-Hillary vote. He will not fair as well against McCain. Unlike Obama, Hillary has original ideas to solve problems and would have a much better chance in the general election. Obama talks a good game, but is better at stealing plans and ideas then actually having any.

Posted by: Roy DeWitt | February 15, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

Thank you, thank you, thank you. This is this FIRST article I’ve read that’s even has hinted on how conflicted African-American women feel! I expected to be flooded with phone calls and mail from either candidate trying to sway my vote. Clinton doesn’t want to be seen as a women; Obama doesnt want to be seen as black. Well, my vote is very important. Being and African-American female, with MS, it’s a shame that no one ever cares how I’m going to vote!

Posted by: Gwen Rogers | February 15, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

I have been a conservative and a Republican all my life, and heavily campaigned for all of their candidates and platforms. But in Obama I suddenly see someone who can unite our country and more importantly, get the rest of the world to like us. He deals in love, not hate. And we need him to bring us all together, and stand up to those right-wing, intolerant racists! Maybe with Obama in office we can finally start putting some of them in prison where they belong!

Posted by: Scott | February 15, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am

Clinton’s attemp to discredit Obama’s speaking ability, by stating that he gives “speeches” and she offers “solutions” is confusing. She is giving a “speech” when she says she is offering “solutions.” Most great leaders had great oratory skills, which lead their followers to accomplish great things. Lincoln, Churchill, Martin Luther King, Kennedy, etc. all inspiried their followers with great speeches. Can anyone name any leaders that are known for their “solutions?” Go Obama

Posted by: Rick | February 15, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

Two things: Firstly, for the most part, criticism of Hillary is a bit harsh. Having have navigated the massive gender double standards that exist in this country, I have no doubts that she will be an effective commander in chief if elected. In every way that we find Obama bold and inspiring, a woman would be perceived negatively for displaying similar characteristics. Food for thought.
Secondly, I can’t believe this “It took President Johnson” nonsense about the Civil Rights Act. US history is chronically (and wrongly) slanted toward the individual, ignoring the contributions of popular movements. It’s not a question of LBJ vs. MLK, it’s this: Would LBJ have passed the Civil Rights Act if there were no civil rights movement? Laughable. He was critical link in the chain, yes, but that by no means entitles him to the credit.

Posted by: O-Town | February 15, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

If this lady can blame left wing, right wing for her personal family problem then she will do anything, say anything to get elect.

Posted by: Dustin | February 15, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

I think Hillary has succeeded in shooting herself in the foot.
In the NY primary on Super Tuesday I was torn, and stood there in the voting booth for a little while scratching my chin before I finally pulled the Obama lever.
It’s that close for MANY people.
All it takes to tip to Obama is things like
*The racial backlash in SC
*Injecting 5 mil of her own money
*Replacing her campaign manager
These things introduce doubt, and are probably enough to tip the beans into Obama’s pot.
Obviously, if Hillary does not come away with wins in Texas and Ohio she is done, it’s a very slippery slope from there…

Posted by: Tim | February 15, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

Obama is like Clinton in ’92, leadership and a breath of fresh air, and the Clintons are like George H. Bush in ’92: desperate and out of touch with reality.
The Clintons’ appalling lack of authenticity has come out in a big way. When Bill was President, most people started noticing it during his second term. But today we already know the HillBill way, and we notice their phoniness in everything they say. The Jesse Jackson incident is just one egregious example.
Democrats, unite behind Obama. It is sad to say this, but there is a real chance the Republicans will take the White House again in November, if we don’t unite decisively behind one candidate soon, and that candidate should be Obama. I don’t really think that Hillary will make it in a national election with all the weakness she has shown so far.
Whether or not you like McCain, he’s the real McCoy. Hillary is not genuine and it comes across in more ways than one. In November, she may very well lose part of the democratic vote. She certainly is not going to get mine …

Posted by: Jesse | February 15, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

I am an international student graduation in journalism. The four years in this country, I was surprised by the lack of political sense americans have. One of the reasons the terrorist groups didn’t attack america after 9/11 is that they fear Bush. Because Bush shown that any country wh is directly or indirectly involved in the anti-american activity will be hit like Iraq and Osama Bin Laden fear that if Bush hit pakistan, his safe hide out will be destoyed. That is the reality which is happening outside america which the whole world knows but Americans dont. So this election is so important for america. If Mccain is the president, they they fear him as they fear Bush. On the other hand, if Obama is the presdent, this country will be destroyed as some of the international media is already reporting that “America is going back to history and the this century will be lead by China or India. Hillary is a better candidate than both these as the rest of the world is projecting. I am so surprised how people of America got in to the charm of speech not substance…..interesting

Posted by: John | February 15, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

Incredible is the only way to describe some of the comments here. Hillary Clinton never said anything that wasn’t true. The fact is that while MLK was the driving force behind the civil rights movement it did take a White President to get the act passed which by the way chased all the conservative Democrats to the Republican party. I’m an African American but it seems that African Americans in this country seem to want people to pretend race doesn’t exist while at the same time voting like mice for a black candidate who most have no idea what his policies are. Some of these are the same people who accused people of racism in trying to keep Clarence Thomas off of the Supreme Court and look what they got, an Oreo if there ever was one. I think blacks and whites are looking for someone who will deliver them the goods without have to do anything for themselves themselves. There’s all this yak about the war and privacy violations and the mortgage crisis but you don’t see people protesting in the streets. Nope, they’d rather just sit back and buy into the foolishness of ‘Yes we can’; the reality being that Obama can’t because the military, the congress, and business leaders won’t let him. It’s clear that white people like the cadenced, rhythmic sound of his speeches and seem to descend into the rapture but as a black person I know I can get the same thing by going to church. I also know that a minister’s preaching won’t get me into heaven; if there is one and that it’s up to me to work on that part of the deal. The feel good stuff is best left to motivational speakers. Vote your brains, I’m making assumptions here, and not your nerve endings.

Posted by: jim | February 15, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

It appears our choice for President has boiled down to a naive adolescent and a grumpy old man. No doubt, in these dangerous times, I’ll take grumpy over naïve every time. Slick-Willie in a pantsuit is a goner!

Posted by: Gary | February 15, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

No presidential candidate can win without the AIPAC support.
Obama needs to show more support for Israel, or he will loss our votes. and will be over for him.

Posted by: Isaac Cohen | February 15, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

I am from Ohio. At this point in time neither I nor my friends have no idea what Hillary really stands for. We have listened to her throughout the campaign starting with Iowa. We listened to her debates. We even factored in and gave her some benefit of doubt since she is of the gender. But so far Hillary has gone through so many adjustments in her campaign, so many image makeovers, and finding her voice after some of those early wins. But today she is just a blur . Her vision for this country is a blur. Even though she expects female votes, she hardly talks about gender equality, and her vision for what she will do for gender equality is a blur.
On the economic front, she is the worst of all. Her campaign raised more money than Obama in 2007, but she ran out of money in January and had to dip into her pocket for $5 million. Also she put it as a loan, so that she can take it back, whereas others like Romney spent their own money instead of saying it is a loan. If Hillary can not control her campaign money properly, she definitely will not be able to handle it for our country. On the other hand, Obama has proven that e can control the campaign finances and win a lot more states at the same time.

Posted by: Jane Marshall | February 15, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

Your post sounds very well thought out, JOHN DOUGHERTY. I agree with it 100%! … MIKE, your post is also well worded. And MM described the Obama racial factor in an excellent manner: “Isn’t it going exactly against the wishes of Martin Luther King for any black person to vote for Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. just because he is black? Wouldn’t they be ‘judging him by the color of his skin’ and not the ‘content of his character?’ Now, I may think he has no character of worth, but that is a different topic…” … As for my thoughts: I believe that the Republican attack machine (RAM) has a tremendous amount of dirt ready to unleash against Obama. If Obama wins the nomination, the Republicans will win the White House again. If you want to do your own research, here are some key words: Sinclair, Rezko, cocaine, Kenya. Clinton has been bashed by RAM for so long, and they don’t have anything new on her. Plus she has the advantage of being mature and seasoned.

Posted by: Observant | February 15, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

First of all, this is my first comment ever on a non-sports related story. I am dismayed by the branding of Lewis’ purported move to Obama as a racial decision. What folks are failing to point out is that most black lawmakers come from districts that overwhelmingly voted for Obama. With Congressional elections around the corner, what congressperson wants to spit in the eye of most of the likely voters in their districts by going against their constituents choice for the nation’s highest office. This has nothing to do with race, it’s just smart politics. I really cringe to see it painted in purely racial overtones. It’s intellectually lazy and demeans the political process.

Posted by: mrmoogie | February 15, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

Wow – these withdraws of pledged support make the whole contest seem like nothing more that some sporting event where fair weather fans flock to the darling of the day. How pitiful.

Posted by: KansasIndie | February 15, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am

Look up “Clinton Uranium” and see what Bill has been up to lately. Don’t tell me Hillary doesn’t know about this, especially with the huge donations he’s gotten for his work. If you question what Obama stands for and what his plan for the nation is, it’s on his website in detail. Hillary has info on her site also so you can compare and make an informed decision.
On another note, Obama didn’t name himself at birth. His parents did. So, the nonsense around his middle name (the idiotic conclusion being “he must be Muslim”) is ridiculous. He goes to the same church a lot of my friends attend and has done so for a long time. Although, if he was of another faith and people condemned him for it, that would be as wrong as attacking Romney for being a Mormon or someone else for being Catholic. I don’t care who anyone else votes for, who endorses whom, etc. I look at the facts and evaluate them based on what I want and need from my next president and leave it at that. We all should do the same and stop attacking based on twisted media reports and propaganda. That way, we might just end up being a strong united country.

Posted by: Anonymous1 | February 15, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

RON PAUL

Posted by: Pete | February 15, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

Let’s see what Obama believes in. His father and step father are muslims. His half sister is also a muslim. He hides his middle name “Hussein”, why do you hide it if you don’t think it’s a problem? His pastor is a racist. I don’t know what he believes in, you tell me.

Posted by: LL | February 15, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

Historically, African-Americans have shown that they do not vote for a presidential candidate simply because s/he is African-American. If that were true, Shirley Chisholm, Jesse Jackson, Alan Keyes, and Al Sharpton would have done as well as Barack Obama has done when they ran for office. However, that’s not the case.
Barack Obama has managed to confuse political pundits who have not yet conceived what’s actually happening in America because their education hasn’t taught them how to analyze a “movement.” They are skilled at analyzing a “political campaign.” Therefore, we have a “movement” versus a “political campaign.” In America there has only been four movements since our existence: (1) When America declared its Independence from England; (2) When Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., unified the country to fight for Civil Rights; (3) When John F. Kennedy ran for president; and now, (4) Barack Obama. During each of these “movements” we have heard stories about the greatest orators in American history. Let’s take a look at Patrick Henry who declared the American liberation movement:
In 1765 Henry was elected to the Virginia House of Burgesses in Williamsburg. The same year, the British Parliament infuriated the colonies by passing the Stamp Act, a form of direct taxation. Henry led the fight against the act in the House of Burgesses and presented seven resolutions condemning it. The resolutions asserted that only the colonial legislatures could levy taxes on the colonies. In support of his resolutions, Henry warned, “Caesar had his Brutus, Charles the First his Cromwell, and George the Third … may profit by their example.” In answer to cries of treason from conservative members, Henry replied, “If this be treason, make the most of it.” The resolutions started a chain reaction that deeply affected opinion in other colonies.
Next, Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., gave the “I Have A Dream” speech during the Civil Rights movement:
“The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed the Negro community must not lead us to a distrust of all white people, for many of our white brothers, as evidenced by their presence here today, have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny and They have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom. We cannot walk alone.”
. . .
“I have a dream that one day down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification; one day right down in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.”
Senator Barack Obama won the Alabama primary and I truly believe he is simply fulfilling the dream of Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and will bring this entire Nation into the next chapter of American history: “The Promise Land.”
President John F. Kennedy motivated this country with the following words that rang true for every American:
“It is not what your country can do for you, but what YOU can do for your country.”
According to the great American Philosopher, Ralph Waldo Emerson, it was said:
“The spiritual is stronger than any material force, thoughts rule the world.”
Historically, the person leading the “movement” has always been the victor. Hillary Clinton is running a political campaign that lays out unguaranteed “issues” while Barack Obama offers “hope” and concludes that “there is nothing false about hope.” These words resonate with an American people who have been subjected to eight years of lying, stealing, and murder. Americans have felt powerless against its electorate until Barack Obama came along and said “this movement” doesn’t start from the top down, it “begins from the bottom up.” His message explicitly states that the new government will work for the people, not Corporate America.
Finally, I do not find it sad that Hillary Clinton is losing this election. After all, she is trying to kill the message of “hope.” During the Civil Rights movement Whites/Blacks collectively would not allow anyone to kill “the dream.” Patrick Henry put his life on the line when he vehemently spoke out against the tyranny of the British Parliament. As Barack Obama said: “We know the battle ahead will be long. But always remember that no matter what obstacles stand in our way, nothing can stand in the way of the power of millions of voices calling for change” . . . “We have been told that we cannot do this by a chorus of cynics. It will only grow louder and more dissonant. We’ve been asked to pause for a reality check. We been warned against offering the people of this Nation false hope. But in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false . . . about hope.” I want CHANGE what about you?

Posted by: Edward Nelson | February 15, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

It’s too bad that Obama surrogates keep fanning the racial flames, and are not called on it. Obama could call for a stop to it, but he keeps quiet. Ms. Clinton is not a racist,yet the media keep playing it up. M. Obama gets a pass on her crude comments. Blacks played the race card in S.C. Clyburn claims he’s neutral, but he.s not. “Code word” was put out there by a black and the media ran with it. A S.C. legislator went on t.v. on election day and implied senator Clinton was not in the state and of course that was not true. Did he apologize? He didn’t. The media is doing a great disservice to the public by anointing Obama instead of doing fair coverage. Too bad, some see a racist in a person if Obama is not that person’s choice.

Posted by: Vivi | February 15, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

“Let’s see what Obama believes in. His father and step father are muslims. His half sister is also a muslim. He hides his middle name “Hussein”, why do you hide it if you don’t think it’s a problem? His pastor is a racist. I don’t know what he believes in, you tell me”
It’s one thing to be ignorant, but flaunting it is rather embarassing – truly.

Posted by: mrmoogie | February 15, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

Hillary’s past solutions.
1)NAFTA
2)Voting to go to war.
Anyone that voted for the Iraq war doesn’t have the wisdom or understanding of the regional ethnic conflicts that have led us to a quagmire of epic proportions that will drain this country of billions of dollars and cost the future generations for years to come.
We need a president that has the vision to lead this great country. Not one of negativity and fear.

Posted by: Bo | February 15, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

How come no one said anything when Obama was compared to JFK.
By the way if someone says somehing like what Bill, that is not playing the race card, it is when you accuse someone of racism is when the race card is being used. So Obama used the race card and still does.
He is a racist!! we all know that!!

Posted by: spock | February 15, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

His getting Afr. Amer. support is no different than her getting women and white support. And, all of us know the only reason she is getting some of their support is because she IS a woman and she IS Anglo. If you don’t believe or know that, then you have your face buried in the sand.
The simple fact of the matter is this: she was polling higher than he was among blacks. She was getting a higer level of support than he was, except Bill over-played his hand. Not to start anything racial here but, some co-workers and I had the discussion many times in the past of why so many black voters were going with her over him. It seemed to us that they would want to back their own.
Well, enter Bill stage left and all hell broke lose….Anyway, many of these superdelegates are people that made up their minds last year. Of course they have a right to change their mind. The story that’s not reported here is, there are still black super delegates that will not change their mind and still have plans to vote for Hillary – no matter what. They have that right as do those who want to change their mind.
Change of heart or not, make no mistake about it, she still has more instutional support among blacks than he EVER will. And we know why too.
And, I suspect some people are beginning to realize the level of support she has among the black elite and are wanting to strike a balance or something……In any case, it has taken them 2000+ years to reach this point. So, of course they are re-evaluating, many of you would as well if placed in the same position under the same conditions. Anyway, who makes up their mind a year in advance? That’s as stupid as mailing in a ballot for someone months in advance.
Simply stated, people are allowed to change their mind, regardless of the reason. What’s a shame is the press is feeding people this race tag line and so many are buying into it. For goodness sakes people, exercise a little common sense; because black, white or purple, Hillary is a flawed candidate.
As a white male, I’m more than happy to vote for anyone against her. I don’t care if that person is Obama or McCain. The thought of this woman running the country is very scary. I’m more than happy to lend black voters some support. It’s about time they opend their eyes and realized the Clinton’s aren’t the only game in town. It’s good to see so many others are realizing it as well.

Posted by: Alex T. | February 15, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

Bo, an even better article about the Clintons is the one titled, “Ghosts of 1996.” Hispanics do not realize what they are getting themselves into voting for Hillary Clinton. Here’s what they helped them with in 1996. Check out this link: Ghosts of 1996

Posted by: Edward Nelson | February 15, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

Becky, are you serious? You really think everyone’s problems with Hillary are because we are sexist? The woman is inconsistent and she is trying to claim her time as first lady to be political experience. She is evil, thats not sexist, thats just a fact. Even Maureen Dowd admits that Hillary is a bad test case for American sexism.
The Clintons bring so much baggage with them, and most of the country just wishes that she and her ilk would just go away and never bother any of us again. She bought one election in New York and now she is surprised that she can’t buy off all of America. Her rallies are degrading at best, and extremely racist at worse. Bill’s attacks on Obama are uncalled for. If he wants to slam Obama for something, slam him on issues.
I am sick to death of the Clintons pulling this kind of stuff. They claim they will do one thing and then backstab everyone.
HILLARY GO AWAY AND NEVER COME BACK!

Posted by: Mike | February 15, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

I think this election is a disaster. The media are the ones causing all this conflict. They are the ones creating the hype. Wasn’t it really Obama’s wife that went to South Carolina and told the Black Churches that they needed to make a stand together. Clinton’s words and the way he said it were taken out on content. The media spun that web. The Fairy tale bit to me was nothing more than hype there was nothing racial about it. To me he meant that it was a fairy tale to think that obama could think that he could win when he really has no experience and no one really knew who he was. Nothing racial. What is really bad is that the republican’s are trying to convince people to vote for Obama so that McCain can chew him up and spit him out and they will have the White House again. That is what was going on in Virginia. The conservatives don’t like McCain they said since they are stuck with him that they want the democrats to be stuck with Obama. They are saying that they fear him in the national election only so that he will be the one choosen. They really however fear Hillary. They know she has the power to really change things. And that bothers them. They also think that if they can keep the conflict within the democratic party that half of the democrats are going to be so upset they they will not go vote in the general election. And I am sorry to say they are correct about that. The Hillary supporters will not support Obama and the Obama supporters will not support Hillary. However I think the only way this will work is to have them on the same ticket. Hillary should be president however and Obama Vice President until he actually gets some experience and people really have the chance to see what he is really all about. Any other way the democratic party will not be united. People are hurting all over the United States and its a crying shame that the media is trying to destroy the democratic party. If an independent would run they may have a real chance in the national election. People need to get off the hype wagon and start looking at the issues. compare the plans. See what they are really voting for or against. It is bad for our country that we are going to be voting on hype instead of issues.

Posted by: Tami | February 15, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Ditto “Mr Judgment”
“If Hillary can’t manage her campaign finances, can’t keep Bill on a leash, and can’t find her message — how exactly will she lead the country?”

Posted by: STL Independent | February 15, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Posted by: s.b,
What does black american owe the clintons? were it not for the blacks, he never would have been elected in the first place. if anyone owes anyone anything he owes them. you better go back and look at the numbers and do a little math. second, what did obama say about white voters? you are a liar. he never said anything about whites being racist. if he did say anything of the sort, you think i would be voting for him?
third, if hillary, black civil right activists, or anyone else was all that concerned about voters being disenfranchised, she would agree to a re-election so EVERYONE can vote. no, she wants to keep it as it is. she can’t have her cake and eat it too.

Posted by: shannon | February 15, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Hillary’s experience = Bad experience
People need a new direction and a president worthy of trust. McCain should look for a retirement home and Hillary should step aside and stop doing more damage with her negative image. She will only unite republicans.
And I am not sure all that anger and frustration of Bill is not because he was hoping to get loose on all those interns again while Hillary is busy! What he thought was a sure thing seems to be slipping away!

Posted by: D Lawrence | February 15, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Alex T., I read your post and I agree with you wholeheartedly. However, the elite are only 10% of the American population, I’m not threatened by them. They are threatened by us. Actually, I think Hillary Clinton is broke and can only afford to run her campaign in Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. Otherwise, she’d be more visible. During World War II, England manufactured cardboard planes to fend off an attack by the Germans. It may sound incredible, but it worked. The German scout saw what he believed to be a fleet of thousands of airplanes and warned Germany against attacking England. Hillary Clinton’s finances are like the cardboard planes. She touts that she has plenty to campaign with, but actually, there’s nothing there. Otherwise, Bill Clinton would be more visible.

Posted by: Edward Nelson | February 15, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

The real challenge we have within the Democratic race is that we are dancing around the 800 lb elephant in the room. The third rail issue is race and every reporter, news anchor and pundit wants to remain as far away from this as possible.
As with all politicians who earn a significant majority of the vote from one particular group or party, there is concern as to what the massive support from such a group is expecting in exchange for this blind support? Barack has already given some inkling as to the sensitivity of this overwhelming support by avoiding vote choices on issues involving tougher laws for criminals and the reduction of plea bargaining. This is after he stood at the podium claiming to be tough on crime. His voting record (or lack of it via the ‘here’ votes) shows the contrary. It seems that anything that looks like it is supporting the local police and courts by closing loopholes or reducing tolerance goes against the massive support building behind him.
He is against illegal immigration but sought the support from one of the biggest benefactors of an illegal workforce, the Culinary Union. The reality is that if immigration reform includes amnesty, unions will see this new “legitimate” labor force as the equivalent of fresh meat in a singles bar. The ability to organize millions who will come out from the shadows means a whole new base of health and welfare payments.
Barack is for many things and from a viewpoint at 30,000 feet things look really good. But the lofty goal of bringing the two parties together is not going to be a reality with the current legislative body. What few realize is that laws and bills bubble up from the bottom and not from the top down. The rhetoric of bringing the world together is just that, rhetoric. As a newbie, his political capital will be lean if he were to be elected and he would spend that awfully quick trying to get one or two bipartisan proposals passed. After that, the continued objectives of congressional leaders and the required support of their home state agendas will continue as usual.

Posted by: Ray | February 15, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Some of the proceeding posts are the most thoughful posts I have seen to date
however, what perplexes me is why the Democrats always seem to pass on candidates like Sam Nunn, Joe Biden and or Chris Dodd?

Posted by: Robert Mack | February 15, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

Vivi, you wrote ” Ms. Clinton is not a racist,yet the media keep playing it up. M. Obama gets a pass on her crude comments.”
Do some research. Hillary was a “Goldwater Girl” — get your facts straight!

Posted by: Cathi | February 15, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

I am confused by Rep. Clyburn’s comments. He said,”Those of us who live in the South especially, we know the code words when we hear them and we understand the tone. People felt some of that was going on and they reacted to it in a very bitter way.”
What ‘code words’ and what ‘tone’? Is there a guideline as to words and tones?
Racists in the South are pretty obvious and lack subtlety. I grew up in the South and and have relatives who are bigoted and racist. I am continualy shocked at how easily the ugly words come out of their mouths. My memories of racism are as vivid today as they were in the 50′s and 60′s. The white line on the floor of the buses, signs reading “Whites only”-on water fountains, in restaurant windows, on bathroom doors. Signs saying “Blacks must use back door”. It was, and is still, shocking to me.
My confusion lies in the fact that racism seems like a chess game in which only one side knows the unspoken rules and the rules keep changing, therefore the game never ends.

Posted by: Shayne | February 15, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

Comments (media & blog) are becoming more and more vehement as people discuss the issues of race and gender. It is a fact of our existence that we learn at early ages to take a healthy amount of pride in, not only our accomplishments, but also in our identifications, our cohorts (be they race or gender). In our youth, we were pitted ‘boys-versus-girls’, and we were made better by fostering a friendly but meaningful sense of competition. We wouldn’t dare call that racism or sexism.
Now that we are voting, contributing adults, we learn to hash through political ideas or intensions that will work to make our lives better–ideas/intensions that transcend race and gender. But, that doesn’t discount that healthy sense of identity we gain from being white, black, Latino, Asian, or bi-racial—for that matter.
We shouldn’t HAVE to have Black History month or tributes to other minority groups because the accomplishments of those groups should equally be included in American history. However, that doesn’t negate the healthy sense of pride I especially feel in learning of the contributions of African Americans. When J.C. Watts was a staunch Republican representative in congress, I was proud. When Colon Powell and Condoleezza Rice were the first African Americans selected for such posts, I was a proud black American AND a proud American because of the strides such selections imply. Likewise, I was proud when Barack Obama was elected to the US Senate.
Ultimately, I will vote for the candidate that spawns ideas that contribute to a better quality of life for me and my children, but if I vote for Barack Obama because he is black, then that also contributes to my children’s view of a limitless future (of personal opportunities) as well. (Obama is a good man too. I would not vote for Marion Barry for anything, and he’s black. But, Obama is a positive role model for men, black men, and people in general.)
My point is that while we should vote on issues predominately, fostering and perpetuating a sense of pride in my race or gender is not racism or sexism. It’s not. Obama’s and Hillary’s accomplishments as people and as minorities are something to be proud of in a healthy way. If you are conflicted because of his race or her gender, then you should be. You were taught that. It’s not unhealthy. If they were not good people and patriots, then you would be remiss to be led by race or gender in making your decision. No one is choosing Obama just because he’s black. He is substantive (despite Rush Limbaugh’s opinion). No one is choosing Clinton just because she’s a woman. She has a solid history.

Posted by: John Brown | February 15, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

The media has gone overboard for Obama. I used to think Fox news was bad, but now CNN and MSNBC have shown to be just as selfish and one sided for their favorite candidate.
The popular vote, is at a dead heat, but watching CNN or MSNBC (excetp for Dan Abrams) you’d think Obama has one already!
How do we revolt against an unfair corporate media? I’m upset they are race baiting us all. First Clinton is a racist, now all these race being an issue discussions, just pitting everyone against eachother.
We are all pons.

Posted by: Jeff | February 15, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

This is a sad and fantastic time all at once for American politics. Let me say that as a Black man, when Obama first anounced his intention to run, I thought it was a joke. When he actually did, I thought he was crazy. But then I started to listen and I read about him. I went to his website and I went to Hiliary’s I am currently reading his book, the Audacity of Hope. I am now a 100% Obama supporter, and NOT becasue his is black, but in part due to what I have read as his ideas and what he plans to do and based upon his intergrity.
If I can I will state a few reasons why Obama should be given a chance to lead this country above Hiliary Clinton.
1. Like Bill Clinton, his has a story from rags to success, so he understands what the average citizen goes through to make ends meets. And he knows what to do to make things better.
2. He has the credentials in my opinion. A law degree from Harvard, a community organizer, a law Professor, a state senator and then a US senator, so indeed he has moved up the ladder and understands politics and policy making.
3. He certainly has the ability to work both sides of the Isle. You should note that Hiliary Clinton always speaks about her experiance and ability to FIGHT and TAKE ON the Republicans, she does not know how to work with them.
4. He draws support from both parties. We now see there are Obamacans, Republicans for Obama. We know that Senator Lincoln Chafee is now supporting him and Colin Powell has indicated that he likes him and may support him. Such is the Charisma that he has.
5. His programs are REALISTIC, and not based on promises that will end up being broken. For example he correctly says that all through the cold war years, the USA maintained dialogue with Russia though we were techincally at war.
6. If you think he does not know foreign policy, he has foreign family roots, has lived abroad as a youth so he understands how to deal with foreign cultures. It is rumored that George Bush had only travelled out of the country once or twice before becoming president.
7. He is certainly intelligent. Being the president of the Harvard law review, an elected position to run one of the most respected legal journals in the United States, he cartainly must have shown his collegues he is intelligent. Being a law professor shows that he is intelligent. Intelligent people know how to make tough and good choices and decsions.
8. You cannot overlook his charisma. In times of tria and tribulation, many times it is the Charisma and intelectuality of an induvidual that gives the people hope and strength to carry on despite the odds against them. He has also almost single handedly ganvanized the youth vote in the country, if he does not win the nomination, the youth vote may shy away from the general election.
9.Oh! I forgot, this experience issue. Consider this, George W Bush was a Two times Texas governor before he became president, one would have assumed that would be adequate experience required the run the country effectively correct? We now see that this is not the case.
10. And to round up. His age. John F. Kennedy was younger that Barack Obama was when he became president, so how does Obama not qualify to be president?
There is more, but I think thats enough. Obama needs your vote. You will note that I have not mentioned anything as regards race or gender.

Posted by: Nicholas | February 15, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

The Obamas have manipulated people, and the press, very well. If you don’t vote for Obama you’re either a racist, or don’t want change. Day by day Obama gets cockier and cockier on screen. It’s almost this sense that if you don’t give Obama the handout that we’ll all have hell to pay, racial strife, the party being split, etc.
The Republicans are LOVING this. The best possible scenario has played out for them 1) an untested new politician as the nominee 2) a split Democratic party.

Posted by: Todd | February 15, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Cathy,
My facts are “straight”. I’m aware of Clinton’s “Goldwater” days. She was 13, or 14 at the time. What’s your point? Are you calling Senator G. a racist? Senator Clinton is not a racist. I’m entitled to my opinion. FYI, I was responding to the article.

Posted by: Vivi | February 15, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

Todd,
Wow! So you would have us to accept that there is no legitimate substance to Sen. Obama and that his very presence on the world stage is a result of some sort of quasi-affirmative action conspiracy?
Is it possible, just remotely possible that white Americans from Illinois who voted him into two of their major representative offices just happened to see an honesty, a charisma, and a genuinely-representative voice that transcended race?
For you and others to suggest that Obama is some sort of guilt-produced token is…something. The man is accomplished and solid. Disagree with his political stance and vote for the ‘other guy’, if you will, but don’t discount his legitimacy as a candidate for President, especially just because he happens to be an African American.
Wow.

Posted by: John | February 15, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

All candidates for political office make mistakes in their campaigns.
All candidates for political office have segments of their past, life-choices/policies/associations, that will not appeal to some segment of their constituency.
As voters we need to attempt to ignore rhetoric and the multitudinous spins put on everything that any candidate has to say. We need to listen to what they say and then parse it for ourselves. We need to avoid the sound bites and look for the substance. We should make comparisons between the candidates’ histories and what is now being said by, or about, them.
In short we should take the time to become informed voters.
We serve no one, least of all ourselves, if we vote solely on the basis of political party, race, color, creed, sex, sexual preference, or anything other than how much a candidate reflects our morals, values, ethics, views, and priorities. It is very unlikely that any candidate will shares all of the above with any individual, but either by selection or process of elimination we will still come to a decision, hopefully our own decision.
As a final thought, I would urge the DNC to rethink the how, why, and wherefores of the super delegates. I do not believe, that as they are now constituted, they work beneficially toward the democratic process of the democratic party.

Posted by: zooecium | February 15, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

Many of the superdelegates are not elected officials, therefore they are not obligated to vote based on the masses. Why would they even change sides? They should vote for the person that they believe will make the best president. I think this is called LOYALTY!!!!! They shouldn’t be swayed by what the press and other says. If they change sides is this not flip flopping, which is what Obama is claim Clinton did on Iraq.

Posted by: Jillian | February 15, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

Center of Responsive Politics
HOPE FUND
Obama has given over $698,000 to super delegates that will support him.
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Don’t dis, this is a fact. If it comes down to superdelegates being the deciding factor. Its because OBAMA BOUGHT THEIR VOTE

Posted by: Carol | February 15, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

The black superdelegates are being threatened of their political career if they support Hillary over Obama. The media knows this but refuse to dig into it. This is why John Lewis and others are rethinking their support for Hillary.
They do not want to go the extent of losing their job over their support for a white lady. It is that simple.
It is not that they really torn between two good candidates as they want to profess. It’s the THREAT to their political career driving their actions.
It’s a shame.

Posted by: SAM | February 16, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

Superdelegates are now king makers ? Voting’s goal is to accurately represent the public’s desires. If superdelegates vote any way other than what the popular vote in their district, county, city, state, country, is, then the Democrats are no better than the Republicans. Remember how the republicans handled Florida and the ‘hanging chads’, ‘dimpled chads’, et cetera ? WAKE UP SUPER DELEGATES AND DO YOUR JOB !

Posted by: Mark in Georgia | February 18, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am

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