Another Clinton Surrogate & a Clinton Campaign Staffer Push Rev. Wright Story

Goodbye Democratic Party – it was nice knowing you!

Chris Bowers “liberal blogger” who’s in the tank for Obama and thinks he and his compatriots are going to reinvent the Democratic Party. Let’s get the whole ID, not just the abbreviated version, please.

I believe what Wilson and others are saying is true — but Wright story doesn’t need pushing, especially by anyone associated with the Clinton campaign.

Reports of the democratic party’s demise have been GREATLY exaggerated.

dl,
So true. So true.

For Hillary’s supporter to criticize Obama on “guilt by association” is absolutely ludicrous considering her and Bill’s many indiscretions over the years.

Does any one believe that the Repbulicans wont push the Rev Wright story if/when Obama is nominated.
There is no reason why this story shouldn’t be pushed.
We still dont know when Obama was in Church. We still dont know how much money Obama gave to the church.
We still dont know about the ties this church has to radical organizations and states such as Lybia.
We still dont know what this church does with the money Sen obama gave it?
Do they give money to radical groups in Lybia for example????
Do people want to get this information before or after the nomination is over?
There is still much investigative work to be done on this story and much to report.
Why would democrats want to leave it to the republicans to do this work, which they will, gladly?

not only did the Clintons invite Rev Wright to the white house for a prayer breakfast, the reports are that for over thirty years he was not viewed as a fringe preacher. His church does have some white members, they often have white visitors, and the hierarchy of the United Church of Christ is predominately white. Don’t you think if his usual sermons were like those few now appearing all over the newscasts others would have noticed all these years? The truth is, Sen Obama spoke the truth – he did not hear those specific sermons personally, when he did learn of them at the beginning of the campaign the Reverend was already in the process of retiring, and he denounced those awful sermons. I am white and I am ashamed of everyone who continues to ignore the facts in favor of this mindless mudslingging. Lets get to the real issues – the economy, war, healthcare – and lets do it as one American people, as Obama suggests.

Michelle and Barack Obama were such patriotic Americans before Wright’s comments were made known-yeah, that’s right. Serious doubts already existed. This was the confirmation.

Let me see if I have this correct, any time someone who has endorsed Clinton speaks it means Hillary has spoke. But we are supposed to ignore Wright’s words because obama didnt speak them.

Why shouldn’t she?

What a joke. If you actually paid attention you would know that a political memo from the Clinton Campaign came out specifically asking campaign officials and others to stay away from the Wright issue. Also listed reasons WHY they should stay away (because it benefits the campaign to do so). You’re so desperate to attack HRC that you don’t even make sense.

Bill Clinton never had a budget surplus. He never paid down the national debt. Look on Yahoo’s search engine….search, (Public Debt to the Penny).
The last time the debt was payed down was 1957.
The column on the left hand side of the page has (history of the debt) on it, in 50 year increments.
Now Hillary plans on running on the economy and Bills lies? Bush gave everyone a tax cut on Bill Clinton’s lies. Look at the national debt now. 9.4 Trillion dollars.
If Clinton wants to paint Obama as a rascist….then we can consider her a mathematical fool, for running on her husbands lie, about paying down the national debt. What surplus?????????????????
Clinton’s lies have put this countries financial system and social security at risk.
Some other mans racial problems are the least of our worries. Obama didn’t spout the words.
But Clinton’s husband falsified the national debt story, and still stands behind it.

God forbid we should have a president who associates with people with actual opinions!! And the man doesn’t even wear a flag pin!!!
No, what this country needs now more than ever is another politically correct, wrapped in the flag out of touch phoney bonehead that will tell us what we want to hear without any harsh words…everything is fine, the U.S. is incapable of mistakes, there are no racial problems and the economy is doing fine!!!
Why engage people head on and discuss problems when it is clearly better to just play politics as usual and avoid anything that might offend anybody in any way? Ignorance…it the American way, by God.

In 3 months nobody will remember who Wright is. Team McCain can show the video to remind everyone; and Team Obama will hit them right back with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, two of McCain’s people, saying on 9/13/01 that it was God’s will that 9/11 happened because American culture was “corrupt.” In short, McCain won’t be able to use this because Obama has just as much on him, and our political memory is (tragically, at times) exceedingly short.

The latest opinion poll reveals that Senator Clinton is now leading Senator Obama nationally and in the critical primary state of Pennsylvania. Senator Obama continues to lose support as the controversy over his relationship with Jeremiah Wright, his former pastor, intensifies. A new Gallup tracking poll shows Clinton with 48 percent support nationally, compared with 43 percent for Senator Obama.
A new CNN poll shows Clinton with a commanding lead now in the state of Pennsylvania. Senator Clinton has 52 percent support and Obama 39 percent. That Pennsylvania primary will be held of course on April 22 and meanwhile, little doubt which candidate liberal activists are supporting.
Among the most liberal of the liberals, Barak Obama is ahead of Senator Clinton by an amazing percentage, more than 50 percent. The results come from a straw poll released by the ultra liberal “Take Back America” organization. Obama had 72 percent; Clinton 16. Teddy Kennedy will be pleased, but Massachusetts may not.

Hillary, there are a lot of us who think that the majorirty of superdelegates are just hoping that you would wake up one day and quit so they don’t have to do the dirty job themselves. A lot of them are your old friends who probably know deep down that you are not fit for the job, despite what they may have said to your face. You are not your husband. Just look at Bill Richardson, one of those friends who have finally plugged up the courage to do the right thing. They want you to get the hint now!

Senator Clinton suggested, yesterday, that if Florida and Michigan are not counted by Democrats, the nomination process and candidate may not be conisdered legitimate.
If Barak Obama is given the nomination (yes, given) Hillary Clinton may simply take her support from the illegitimate Democrats and proceed towards November 4th on her own.
Speaking of November, where are the Michelle Obama papers from Princeton? Since we have learned so much about the former first lady, we need to know everything there is to now about a potential first lady.
Or, should we just refer to the liturgy of Reverend Wright?

I am very certain that the Hillary Clinton Campaign has been behind this Rev. Wright Issue. I am very certain that they are behind the Obama Passport fishing witch Hunt.
Let look at the evidence: The same thing was done to Bill Clinton in 1992.
The Clinton Campaign mentioned things about Obama’s Travel experience about the same time these folkes were snooping into his Passport document.
When will you and your campaign Stop hurting the DEMOCRAT Hillary?
Let the Justice Department do a very good investigation as to who is behind this witch hunt.

Mr. Obama’s Philadelphia speech, in spite of its eloquent passages expressing his hope for better racial relations in America, is a mastery example of literary subterfuge, the broadening of the scenery whereby an object of inquiry becomes blurred and lost in the background, or more bluntly, the escaping of a slippery fish from a pond into a lake to hide in a wider expanse of water.
His speech is essentially a sophisticated lawyerly defense of Rev Wright’s sin on the basis of self-defense. While Mr. Obama’s understanding on the root causes of America’s racial problems is quite apt, he attempts to portray that it is Rev Wright’s racial circumstance, and it alone, that had led Rev Wright, with the inevitability of the fixed trajectory of a massive asteroid hurtling toward Earth, to castigate America and its other race with repulsive profanities. Thus, by Mr. Obama account, Rev Wright is a victim of the circumstance that he couldn’t have avoided.
Mr. Obama states: “The profound mistake of Reverend Wright’s sermons is not that he spoke about racism in our society. It’s that he spoke as if our society was static . . . ,” an apt analysis in view of his campaign slogan of “change” that will surely move the country out of the “static” stalemate under his leadership, but the truth is more tragic and personal.
Rev Wright, in spite of Mr. Obama’s defense, is not a victim of his circumstance, the circumstance of his race, but of his own hubris, of his own failure to keep hope and faith in what is good in America and other fellow race. While racism still remains in American society, America does not espouse racism as a creed, and while racism still lingers among some white, not all white are racist. The sin of Rev Wright is that he lost his faith and hope in America.
And Mr. Obama’s profound mistake in his defense is that Mr. Obama still sees America and its white race from the identity of an angry black intellectual who assiduously, in spite of his bi-racial background, and unlike many bi-racial people who refuse to identify themselves with a race, cultivated his black identity at the exclusion of his white heritage, which he laboriously exorcised out of his soul, as his 1995 autobiography testifies.
His line, “I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community,” clearly indicates where his loyalty still lies, to his intellectually cultivated vision of the unified black community, the community that men like Rev Wright mistakenly and pretentiously claim its leadership. But black community, like the white, are far more diverse, far less united than advocates of each race purport, except under the common American value espoused in our Constitution and the sense of patriotism for the land where our families and friends live, of which Rev Wright so flagrantly savaged.
For many black, Mr. Obama’s mention of Rev Wright and the black community in the same vein in his own defense grossly misrepresents the entire black community. Indeed, to them Rev Wright represents the past, the past that black community must depart, as much as the white community must from its lingering racism. And Mr. Obama’s defense of Rev Wright harks back to that unfortunate past, just as his conscious attempt to identify himself as a wholly black person (perhaps until recently) by abandoning his white heritage harks back to the grievous divisions of races precipitated by each individual’s conscious attempt at finding racial identity.
The dismal truth of his speech is that he failed to understand, while acknowledging the damaging nature of Rev Wright’s pronouncements to America’s racial relations, the obvious fact that Mr. Obama’s unflagging support of Rev Wright (that he is like Mr. Obama’s family member, that he cannot be disowned) has done further damages to racial relations and will continue to do so.
This is the sin of Barack Obama: he stood there by Rev Wright while the Reverend was caught up in his pride as a stirring preacher, a vainglorious social critic, spewing out his tirade decrying of the injustice of the whole nation, of an entire race, and he said nothing, did nothing, and to this day Mr. Obama still stands by Rev Wright and does nothing, notwithstanding his speech, except to keep his faith in the Reverend.
It is an admirable act of friendship fitting for a private citizen, but it is an act unbecoming of a US president, for he must stand, not by his friend who failed his hope and faith in America, but by his country and all its people. This, in spite of his rhetorical eloquence, Mr. Obama failed, no, refused to do. His speech did neither heal America’s racial problems nor of his own. Instead, many Americans increasingly perceive him as part of America’s racial problems, not the solution he wishes to present himself. Indeed, Mr. Obama, unwittingly, has become a racially divisive man, the Democrat’s November Bogeyman.

Doles
All those “taken out of context” reports on Wright’s story are coming from disrguntled people like Obama, Roland Martin, Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and you….

Vanessa, could you please, please, please, find some new material. You must be a political neophyte if you think your assertions will gain any momentum.

The Rev. Wright issue, for better or worse, does speak directly to the issue of Judgment.
Obama’s entire campaign is about having the right judgment on day one!
How can anyone assert that the Rev. Wright issue is not relevant at this juncture in the campaign?
I believe that if Mrs. Clinton had as incendiary an issue as does Obama with Wright, Obama surrogates would be “pushing” it as well.
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
Obama supporters, this is primetime. Get used to it.

Mattohio: That’s a good idea. They want to know everyting there is to know about Hillay from income tax to what she had for breakfast. What do you think the picture of Obama in african grab means? What does it tell us about him.

So Sen. Clinton is going to try and convince the superdelegates and the country
1. the Michigan and Florida voters were disenfranchised by Sen. Obama even though when it mattered she signed on to the deal and only when she was losing she wanted them back…screwing up any kind of reputation all dems had because her candidacy meant more than the party.
2. That she is more electable because no one will vote for Obama because of her team throwing the kitchen sink at him. Yet the whole country knows that she threw the kitchen sink at him and he is still almost tied with her from Polls after his worst scandal…that doesn’t come close to her worst scandal.
Not to be too sarcastic but…
Yes …oh the superdelegates are going to jump on that… that’s a wining cause and candidate who they want their name attached to.
“Hope and movement forward” or “Fear and crappy old self serving politics”.

So now CNN is taking a closer look at the Rev Wright’s sermons, why is ABC not doing the same thing instead of having Brian Ross do a biased report, taking words out of context.

You guys are good… with the whole he should release his travel records…
gang most of them had to be already…
do you understand the security issues with this? No?
People he may have stayed with living in countries with political upheaval… individuals he met as a child… addresses of those people? addresses of his grandmother? sister? social security numbers for a potential president of the U.S. of A.
Knowing schedules and locations of where they go when they go to those countries?
More than anything here is a candidate who common sense tells you is at risk…and someone is looking into those files…
but go ahead do the typical “C is for Clinton” campaign…and make look like something insideous is going on.
and you wonder why your candidate has such high negatives.

Where are Clintons tax records? Who donated to the Clinton library? Who donated to the Clinton Foundation? Where are the records? Between the library and the foundation, it involves 1/2 BILLION DOLLARS!! Where are those records? Why the delay on the phone logs? TWENTY THOUSAND PAGES of phone logs! How can I decide if I can vote for Clinton or not if I don’t have this information?

The Rezko campaign donations to Obama they said it was donated to charity. What charity? Rev. Jeremiah Wright?

You clinton supporters The have so many secerts and owe other big favors, Obama is not a leek the MAn has always been hontest . IT is to bad WE are afraid of change , I guess you all want the same mess we are in , HE is the Only canidate that can get us there . WE are no longer in the 90,s however I guess you did not fully understand the Man speech – I see on here how many of you feel the way he spoke about this is so sad

This is the very same thing that Barack spoke about racism. Reading these postings clearly shows the same closet racism here. Most or all the posters here who are trying to tie Barack to Jeremiah Wright and trying to make excuse for Hillary are at work and if they work with any minorities will laugh and might even sit in a cafeteria and talk to them but once they are back at their desk come out and post all this racist garbage.

I’m using the picture of Bill Clinton with Reverend Wright and Bill and Hillary with Tony Rezko as desktop photos on my computer to remind me what a reckless liar and devious person Hillary Clinton is.

Pastor say wild things to get the point across ,think shock jock. Also my Grandmother still fear white people and i use to get mad but it not there fault it was the old models and thinker.I wish people would understand that as being black we teach peace toward other but does dont practices it on each other. We would be morality wrong to treat people as less but do have differences as a people and race. We can act like are pain or discontent is not real because we dont protest and rage against the machine but were the credit for repeatedly peacefully solving the problem. We have only been free for like a generation or so. Seek understanding

I find the meanness and the arrogance of the array of reactions to this whole controversy to be very disturbing. People are not thinking about the essence and the implications of their Wright-centered comments on Obama and how those implications indict each of us as ‘guilty’ or at least ‘subject’ to the exact message of his speech on race this week. Fine. Hate the candidate and don’t vote for him, but be responsible and listen to the speech and truly analyze how you, as an individual, can make a contribution rather than being a detriment to the society that you’ll be a part of well after November and the general elections.
How can people, in good conscience, be so dismissive? I am a black man in America, but I’m bound by a higher obligation to be truly cognizant of how I treat and interact with ALL others.

Obama made a tactical mistake. He has put race and hate mongering on the table as a legitimate issue. As a Clinton supporter I’m thrilled at his speech. Now he can’t complain anymore that people bring up race. That’s the danger in trying to CYA, you give permission for the issue to be examined.
It really doesn’t matter what Hillary’s “surrogates” are saying. Obama told everyone to look at the elephant in the room then to politely ignore it. Sorry dude, you can’t have it both ways anymore.

With the amount of political campaigning and posturing that goes on in the Trinity United Church of Christ (Jeremiah Wright), perhaps the validity of their tax-exempt status needs to be investigated by the IRS.
The IRS has a toll-free number whereby individual citizens can report suspected evasion of taxes or violations of tax laws.
And, yes, that goes for any church that wants to get into politics and/or political fund raising.

Many in the media are rhapsodizing over Obama’s speech. They are saying that this is a speech that will be studied for years. Maybe so, but not for the reasons they think. The speech was nothing more than a slick way of changing the topic. Not only that, the speech used rhetorical techniques in a cynical attempt to soften the image of Rev. Wright, and limit the damage he is doing to Obama. For example, Obama uses a technique called “moral equivalence,” which attempts to equate a greater sin with a lesser one, thereby reducing the impact of the greater sin. He equates disavowing Wright with disavowing his grandmother, hoping to demonstrate that it would be wrong to disavow Wright for his racist and anti-American comments, just as it would be wrong to disavow his grandmother for her racist comments. However, the two sins are not equivalent. Wright is a public figure, who bellowed out his comments to a large audience, while the grandmother’s comments were private. Moreover, he attempted to balance Ferraro’s comments against those of Wright. Once again, the comparison should fail, because Wright’s were loud, unmistakable, intentional, and could not be interpreted as anything but what they were. Ferraro’s comments, on the other hand were racist only if interpreted as such, and Ferraro clearly stated that she did not intend them to be racist.

Can you imagine the outrage that would have erupted if Hillary Clinton, John McCain, or Ralph Nader had spoke of the “typical black person?”
How about if any of the other Presidential candidates had talked about how non-blacks are “bred” in a manner similar to what Barak Obama said about white people?
Where does it say that Barak Obama or his pastor get a pass to disparage other races in speeches without being held accountable for their actions?

The reaction to his campaign alone proves what his experience has shown him. There are indeed white people who are afraid of him simply because he’s black. He treaded a line of appearing like a ‘safe black man’ rather than an angry one just for those people.
Fortunately, there are many many more atypical people of all colors who are not afraid. And actually find it bizarre that some of any kind are.
Meanwhile, this whole mess about Reverend Wright could have been avoided if Fox and Chris Wallace had simply told the truth.

What happens if we change just one fact – Wright is a non-Black – and keep everything else the same. We would still have the same questions about Obama’s character and judgment: why does he keep this relationship? why did he not do something about it? why did he keep silent for over a year? why does he perpetuate Wright’s teaching to the next generation such as his kids?
So the reality is that Obama’speech is to deflect the attention to the fact that he has not answered any of the questions; he is also arrogant to take on the holier than thou attitude to judge and lecture the rest of America as racists and throw his grandma and the blacks under the bus with “to denounce Wright is to denounce the blacks”…This issue has nothing with Blacks, it is all about Obama’s character and judgment.

I hope the Clinton campaign push the Rev. Wright story because the media certainly won’t touch it. They love Obama and are apologetic and dismissive of anything that he does. If Clinton had received even some of the help that Obama has received from the media, then she would already be the Democratic nomination. To make up for this unfair treatment, the Clinton campaign has had to justifiably use other methods to stay in the race. This process should be up to the people of America to decide, and that most definitely includes FL and MI, and it should not be up to the media to choose the candidate for the people as they have done.

George Snyder,
have you watched the full sermon? If not, you don’t know what you are talking about.
I challenge you to go and do so and then come back and say that the context doesn’t matter.
In this case, it makes all the difference in the world.

Keep pushing it Hillary. Did Obama not make the most of the Ferraro comment? He even included it in the most historic speech in history.

Rome is burning, the country is going down in flames and all we are allowed to do is to swoon over Obama’s politically expedient speech and talk about race, race, race and nothing else. The guy is a disaster for this country. The Clinton campaign would be doing Obama and all of us a big favor to get the Wright controversy out there for everyone to see and judge for themselves before it is too late, because the Republicans are saving it for October.

Give me Colin Powell, give me David Paterson, give me Harold Ford, Jr, give me anyone of color for President, but please not someone who belongs to a separatist church, who publicly embraces its racist minister after condemning our Nation, while at the same time he publicly shames his own white relative and refers to her as a ‘typical white’. The more I know of Obama, the more I realize the contradiction of the man and his message. This is not bringing people together. This is not unity. This is not the change that we seek. This IS a man conflicted. This IS someone whose core values say one thing while his politics say another. This IS someone who should be in a therapists office and not the oval office. America, we’ve come too far to have to settle for this. We can do better. There ARE better choices that one can make for ourselves and for this country.

Get it through your heads people. OBAMA DOES NOT HATE WHITE PEOPLE !!
This country is riddled with people that want and need him to hate whites to justify their own deep seeded prejudices.
I mean the real question with the Rev. Wright issue is does Obama hate white people?
To some of us it is painfully obvious that he does not.

The super delegates SHOULD consider the Wright controversy in regards to Obama’s electability in November. It is a serious factor. It will be the centerpiece of the Republican campaign against him. Regardless of what many liberal Democrats think, most swing voters as well as many Democrats will not vote for Obama due to his relationship with Wright. Why isn’t the Clinton campaign allowed to discuss this? Why is only Obama allowed to discuss the issue? The “typical white person” comment will be long remembered as well, I’m sure, and not in a positive way.

If Democrats think that the Wright issue is dead because NPR, CNN and MSNBC try very hard to bury the story, they are in for a rude awakening.
All it would take for Republicans and the swiftboat people is just a couple of political ad in the general election, and the Americans will be repulsed.
If this was Hillary’s pastor of over 20 years that said something like this, the media and the Liberal wing of the party would have asked her to step down.
Remember, we still have not heard the true story of the relationship between Obama and Tony Rezko. Rezko created Obama and bankrolled his candidacy.
In the earlier debate, Obama categorically stated that he only did 5 hours of work through his church with Rezko.
Stay tuned.

Obama is very lucky these issues were vetted well before the general election. Only the 30% of right wing fox news lemmings will believe that Obama is whatever they want to believe. Obama will win the general election in a landslide because McBush can only get that 30% of the nut jobs who like Bush’s policies.

Left, right, or center, the one thing that is required of any president is that there is loyalty to the United States of America. No, I am not a conservative but rather quite left wing. And, no, this has NOTHING to do about the race issue. On that score, his address was fine. BUT, Obama is “white washing” this issue…understandably. Remember, it took the lifetime of Obama’s wife to say that she — for the first time in her life — to be proud of America. This is quite consistent with the comments of Rev. Wright…although he may not be proud of America. Given the strenght of Obama’s ties to Wright, isn’t he being rather dishonest? He knows Wright’s political views quite well. No surprise. They are NOT separable from Obama’s respect for all of his other qualities. Unfortunately, Obama uses his rhetorical skills to pretend this is not an issue. How sad.

On the other had this is all true.
Like it or not many over 45 voters, patriotic voters and many blue collar voters will vote against Obama now and in the general election.
Obama has the Wright problem, Hillary has the delegate problem.
What a mess.