Bill Clinton Calls A Hillary/Obama Ticket An ‘Almost Unstoppable Force’

Hiya WestCoastMessenger – He’s right, we are right, now we just need to educate the new voters into understanding what is right and best for the country and the world.

Obama: “You Won’t See Me as a VP Candidate”
To former President Clinton: this is the meaning of “is” (I guess the clintons are admitting they need Obama on thier ticket to beat him)
Forget it–

An Obama/Clinton(s) ticket would not be in the offing. He’s got way to much class for that.

How many of you have spent time with both candidates? I have…in living rooms and town halls…where people asked questions. Hillary is far from the better choice.

Obama / Biden would be mine.

He knows there is no chance in hell there will ever be a Obama/Clinton ticket – let along a Clinton/Obama ticket. Hillary will never asked and even if she did, Obama would never accept. Shame on Bill. Of course I don’t know why I’m surprised, these tactics are coming from a VERY DISGRACED president. Now I see why his poll numbers have fallen. So much for his legacy. His legacy is as much in the toilet now as George.

Obama no way. If in the worst case, he wins nomination, I will vote for McCain. I like safe choice. Warren Buffett told me that, never buy unknown stock, untested stock. Obama is unknown and untested. Remember how many bubble stocks crashed?

Obama/Zinni
Obama/Webb
Obama/Dodd
Obama/Sebelius
Obama/Richardson
Obama/Shinseki
Obama/Hagel
Obama/Napolitano
Obama/Biden
Obama/Warner
Obama/anybody but Clinton
And Clinton/Obama? That is a sad joke in the face of a contest she is loosing.

I almost wish Obama would step aside just so Hillary can fall flat on her face. Obama, his supporters, his surrogates, etc. can then tell everyone, her supporters, the Clinton media, etc. that we told you so……if we just examine the camp of both campus and he has run circles around her. They are just now co-opting his message and style. She is only campaigning in smaller states now b/c she has too, it’s not b/c she wants to or that she cares about the rural voters, give me a break!
And here her loser husband has the nerve to think his wife can win a general election. Saying she can unite the new energy. How can she do that? She drips of negativity. People don’t respond to negativity, hate, anger, etc. and that is all that I see coming from her camp and her.
What’s so sad about all of this is no matter whom the Dem. nominee is, the Repubs will win all thanks to the Clintons and stupid misguided voters of Tx and Oh. At least the voters of Tx. weren’t as stupid!

No matter how many contests or how many delegates Hillary lost, I always strongly believe Hillary is a better choice than Obama. Remember how many people said Warren Buffett was out-dated, he dared not to try new stocks? Remember how many people addicted to bubble stocks, ‘buy, buy, it will be up, up’? It turned out, the minority is right, I mean the people like Warren Buffet who has fewer supporters at that time, he is the right one. I mean, sometimes, we can not solely based on who temporarily wins at that time.

Remember Warren Buffett said, ‘No loss means win!’. Hillary is for sure a ‘no loss’ choice. She is safe. I’m not saying she is perfect. I know her short comings. But we need a strong leader, a safe leader to lead the country. Obama is very risky. Lots of people vote for him, because they don’t like Hillary, because they think Obama ‘might’ be a good choice. The key word ‘might’ is killing. It’s like a new stock, people tak risk to buy it. You know the result of taking risk buying an unknown stocks. Didn’t we lose enough money in stock market, in the ‘might-be-good’ stocks?

I fully agree with Angel. Obama can be trained during his VP period. Then run for presidency.

Bill Clinton knows best!

Allison said it best. The Clintons need Obama more than he needs their putrid support. But I guess he’s suppose to roll over and thank his lucky stars after that woman browbeat him for the past 3 weeks. No thanks, Hill.
Clinton/McCain 08

I am so angry about the Clintons and this new strategy of trumpeting unsolicitedly their “openness” to Obama as the VP to make people believe that they can have both, of course with Obama on the bottom of the ticket, even though she has virtually O chance of winning on pledged delegates. I hate this kind of politicking which has continually made so many of us so cynical and disengaged.

I say, get Gore back into this, you know he has been waiting in the wings. A Gore/Hillary ticket would be unstoppable, and change the world! And for Obama…..well, I suppose Illinois still believes his crap, so he can go back there to finish his unspectacular senate career, and then join Oprah as co-host of her show.

justice
you obviously don’t know that al and hill aren’t really buddies.

For the highly educated persons, never think you are smarter than Warren Buffett.

Walter Sprit, you are wrong. Obama is the one over-ambitious. 46 years old, 2 year senator, and run for president. I’m trembling.

Lots of people make logic mistake like that, if I don’t see person bad yet, means this person is good. NO!! That dones’t mean ‘I’ve ALREADY SEEN this person good!’ —- There is difference between ‘didn’t see bad’ and ‘seen good’. I already seen good things Clinton brought to the country. Of course I saw the bad things too, but comparing to the good things, the bad things are so small. I care the economy the most. I want my 401K safe, I don’t want to see layoff any more.

golfgirlusa said, “I want my 401K safe, I don’t want to see layoff any more.” Wow that’s why you support Hillary? Her NFATA lost Ohio 200,000 jobs! And now they let her win in Ohio! golfgirlusa, you insisted on not knowing if Obama will do good things. But didn’t you already see Hillary causing all these layoffs?

I think the dream team would be a Obama/Bloomberg ticket.

My guess is that Hillary would rather have Lieberman on her ticket.

When will this couple stop manipulating the public??????
Surely a Bill / Hillary or Hillary / Bill would be the funniest, but voters seem to prefer Obama.
If Obama is chosen, he will be free to pick his running mate. It is likely that he will not play the old political games and will pick somebody transparent, who will not pretend to release his or tax returns after elections are passed.

Are the Clinton’s schizophrenic? One day they are trashing Obama: saying McCain is qualified and he isn’t; saying he’s Ken Starr… The next maybe he should be VP? What kind of nonsense is this?
There are only two reasonable options for Hillary left:
1. Cut the negative campaigning and try to carry out an above board campaign win or lose.
2. Drop out now
Of course, there is also the unreasonable option: continue to trash Obama and either end up with a weakened nominee in Obama or a blood-soaked nominee in Clinton… Who’s to say what she might choose??

I think the tivket would be Obama and hillary as the vp. She can’t win against McCain, all the polls show that. This person is just not likable. Doesn’t mean she doesn’t have the right stuff. But she’s not likable. Polls say she doesn’t come across as trustworthy. You know thats hurting her. Obmaa clinton vp. Obama is not going to go as VP. That dog wouldn’t hunt

Just as a curiosity: did anybody hear before a story of a loser choosing the winner for his or her VP.
The Clintons are really dangerously unbalanced.

Did everyone forget about John Edwards?
He has 26 delegates! Somebody must have
liked him! I think an Obama/Edwards ticket would be good. Too bad Huckabee is a republican because next to Barack Obama, I liked him the best. I think both men have very superior intelligence, integrity and honesty! More than I can say for old “Ironsides”, Hillary!

Bill, go iron Hillary’s pant suits at 3 a.m…

Okay, which is it Clintons….is he ready for the 3AM call or not, a day ago she says she and McCain are the only ones ready for the 3AM phone call, AND NOW, they have the audacity to say they want him for VP……but the criteria of VP is that you can step in at a moment’s notice. So which is it? You can’t have it both ways! Oh yeah, this is the Clintons, I forgot.

Obama is too smart to get ” gored” by the Clintons.
He does not need them. He has the American people.

Here you Go….John McCain/Hillary Clinton….Bill Clinton/Barrack Obama….This is powerful stuff….

Why Bill Clinton is even answering that question is beyond me…and, from my own viewpoint, why would someone with honor and integrity go on the same ticket as someone with NO honor and NO integrity? It would only make them look bad and damage their political future in the long run.

Mark Webb, I agree with you…very sick indeed! I am thoroughly amazed at all the ignorant Clinton supporters out there urging Obama (who is WINNING) to drop out so he can be VP for Clinton (the one LOSING)…only goes to show that the Clinton campaign has a whole bunch of uneducated supporters brainwashed…lite rinse….
I also agree with the poster who says Bill Clinton is using this to sway ‘on the fencers’ who might vote for Hillary if they thought she’d make Obama her VP…Clinton never does or says anything without a political motive!

I don’t which is scarier Hillary or Obama or Bill, but the do belong in the big house – with bars. We do need someone from Hope, Arkansas, but it certainly isn’t a Clinton. Huckabee was and still is the best choice. He is honest and we need someone like him and his integrity. Let’s start a write-in campaign for him.
Democrats remember: Gotabee Huckabee.

Dear Hillary Fans:
Get it through your thick skulls: She is LOSING. She is in SECOND place. By all ways of doing the math, she will end up in second place.
Obama/Clinton, maybe.
Clinton/Obama…no way.

Realist…Be Real. After what Gw Bush and His republican bushbots have done to this country, which is more damage than all the terrorist nations combined do you really believe that there will be any republican left in office after the next election ??
Now remember…”BE REAL!”

I was sitting here wondering why the Hillary supporter’s never write gramatically correct sentences… then I remembered… nevermind
Bill Clinton is saying he is willing to accept the jr Vice President position… if he can just get back in the White House one more time… well, until Chelsea’s ready.

George from New York, that was a brilliant name assessment.

The Clintons read polls like two witches peering into a crystal ball.
Threatening scorched earth is their answer to knowing Hillary will not get the nomination.
Why?
They think it sets up leverage on the DNC to force Barack to put her on his ticket.
Why?
She could then run in four or eight years. She gets staff, airplanes, credibility, access, press coverage, fund raising, and no more boring wasted hours sitting as a senator which is no longer useful in crafting the illusion of “experience”.
She also can ride shotgun on the White House files, Bill’s tarnished image, financial paper-trails and those pesky questions about selling pardons.
“Hey Barack! Let’s put me on the ticket, make me healthcare czar, and guarantee that you win! I really respect you… always have… and after all, it’s in your self-interest.”
The definition of a con artist is someone who can perfectly imitate the actions of an honest person.

JannieP, how much did the Clinton campaign pay you?

Dave Peck, at least when Bubba was in the White House, we did have the best economy, more jobs created, better security, etc. What has GWU done?
4000 dead
54,000 soldiers blown into pieces with legs, arms, etc. missing?
Is Hussein your choice? Give me a break. The guy is all talk.

Mike, you forgot to mention $2Trillion wasted and Osama not even found!
Shame on Bush!

I love how Clinton supporters talk about the need to ‘educate’ others and then go on to make the stupidest assertions I’ve ever seen.
So golfgirl, Obama would cause the U.S. to collapse like the Soviet Union because of all the “change” he would bring? That is literally the dumbest thing I’ve ever read on a political blog, and that’s saying a lot.
Anyway, Clinton may need Obama on the ticket to win, but Clinton would only drag down Barack. He’ll go with someone with actual foreign policy experience, like Sam Nunn.

I think words matter. If Obama is not ashamed of his middle name and his Islamic herritage, why is he trying to hide it?

He’s not.

Clinton folks and her campaign has played all sorts of nasty tricks thinking Obama would roll up. Once again she failed in her judgement as she failed on Iraq and Iran votes. She fooled the people of Ohio with the Obama/Canadian Nafta deal which now revels that this false lead was generated by the Clintons. Obama campaign is grounded and expanding everyday as anti-establishment to the Clintons. Clinton is now realizing that this skinny kid with a funny name has become a catalyst to start one of the biggest movement in Ameican history. Wait, it will wash away Wahington politicians like Hillary and McCain. You Clinton supporters, keep saying all that you can against Obama, you are in for a shock very soon. The flood gates of Americans wanting change will wash away the Clinton machine. You will consider yourself lucky to recognise Hill and Bill faces when all this is over. To all fair minded and thinking Americans, give up a part of you that still wants the bygone days of Bill Clinton, and join this movement, so that your children and future generation will gratefully look at you and say, “Thank you mom, Thank you Dad for standing with Obama. When we were in need you responded to the candidate who dared to turn the page on old Washington politicians and thus you gave us a new and prospeorus lives”

After reading the posting here on this site, I am truly dissapointed in a lot of you for your statements and your lack of patriotism. As American citizen’s we have a duty to always stay loyal to this country, but when it comes to politic’s people look more for the idiosyncrasy of a person which down plays their true intentions. In 1787; James Madison said. “In framing a system which we wish to last for ages, we should not lose site of the “CHANGE” which ages will produce.” We have reached that time, and now the time has come for a much needed change in America, and in it’s political parties. In times such as these we ought to band together for the greater cause, and relinquish ourselves of those who are running for office merely for their own personal satifaction, and look at the whole picture of why a canidate is interested in becoming our next Chief Executive. Here in America, there is a calling for change. This change will bring the dreams to an awakening reality; that our forefather’s had invisioned about equality in this Great Nation. Not only will we feel the spirit of change, but the world will feel it’s meaning, and this message of change will echo throughout the world; that a brighter day has come forth. And with this change we will feel an emotional empact of unity, by weeding out all forms of segreation and racial tentions; the poison that has hindered this nation for far to long. This change is not about black or white, no; this change is not about man or women, this change is about the greater good for us all who believe that our freedom is at risk and a change is needed to bring this nation together once and for all. I feel that Obama’s quest for this change is a message that we should embrace, because it is time to use the Nonviolence Act of 1955 thru 1964, to create this change that is needed in our White House. No more talk, action is needed at the polls to make this happen.

I said what I had to say…
Good night people….
God Bless you all no matter what your views are…
I am outta here……

bill already been inhaling something he’s crazy we don’t want hillary! but if we got to take her which we don’t an obama/clinton ticket it should be!
obama/dodd more like it!

Got it backwards Bill -Obama/Clinton maybe….naaaaah- he is way too classy to choose her as a running mate.

Former President Clinton is just putting this out there because he knows his wife is going to lose, and he thinks a Clinton/Obama ticket might grab those super-delegates. He is desperate for Hillary to get those delegates, so that he can have his last chance to get back into the White House to clean up his legacy through the two of them.
Of course Senator Obama will refuse to share a ticket with the no-ethics tag-team. He has stated this already. No VP.
President Obama – 24/7 Ready on Ring One!

The Clintons need to stay in the past where they belong. I just thank god we have a real choice in Obama -otherwise it would have meant another 4 years of this same crap with McCain.

Hillary Clinton has no legitimate way to win the nomination! Zero!
She trashes Obama for failing to meet the Washington insider test of experience but now wants the Democratic electorate to think that nevertheless that he should be her VP. Circular and expedient logic from the Clintons once again.
Hillary/Bill, we got news for you…Hillary cannot win the nomination. Senator Obama will be at the TOP of the ticket. Hillary will NOT be on it. We reject the same old dirty Washington politics. We need real change in Washington.

President Bill’s true sentiments always seems to be floating on the surface, oozing out … I’m so disappointed in the Clinton’s, supposedly true Democrats!
Well, just for Bill and Hillary and the Clinton supporters – Senator Clinton you have to beat Senator Obama to be on the top of the ticket. Senator Obama is still leading in the delegate and popular vote count.

Someone should ask Hillary if she wants to be VP or would consider it.
Is the press so utterly racist that they can’t even imagine a white person at the VP slot?
I guess the lily white press corp just assumes since their limo drivers and maids are minorities, that this is the natural order.
Sorry Bill, Hillary is the loser. Obama is the winner. He picks.

they will say anything to win….OBAMA HAS MORE DELEGATES, MORE VOTES, MORE STATES..
CONGRATULATION PRESIDENT OBAMA
we need no more clintons

Contrary to many Democrats and the media, I disagree this idea of Clinton/Obama ticket is Clintons’ idea. The Clinton/Obama ticket is like 3rd option for many Super Delegates reluctant to endorse Obama or Clinton.
My opinion is that this idea cames from a group of undecided Super Delegates contacted by Clinton camp who would like to see an united Party.
I will not be surprise if some of those undecided Super Delegates may endorse the idea of Clinton/Obama ticket publicly soon. A big news which will support this assumption is to know that any Obama Super Delegate decide to endorse the ticket publicly.
If half of the undecided Super Delegates endorse the Clinton/Obama ticket, Barack Obama has not other choice but to accept the VP nomination considering that none of the 2 candidates will have the majority of pledged delegates.
Obama supporters should consider that he is only 46 and 8 years from now,and 54 (or 50)is a great age to run with experience.
Also, if Hillary Clinton government is unpopular among Democrats, Barack Obama should be free to run for president in 2012.

“If half of the undecided Super Delegates endorse the Clinton/Obama ticket, Barack Obama has not other choice but to accept the VP nomination considering that none of the 2 candidates will have the majority of pledged delegates.”
Wrongo.
Obama only needs 35% of the remaining superdelegates.
Hillary needs a 2-1 margin, which she won’t get.
The math for Hillary is very very grim.
Adios, Clintons

Bill Clinton’s ego probably won’t allow him to absorb how completely despised he is by many of those who once admired him. His behavior in this campaign has been despicable and I deeply regret the two times I voted for him and the pass I gave him when he had an affair with a 20 year old the same age as his daughter. Too many of us allowed ourselves to compartmentalized his behavior as personal. When we should have run him out of town on a rail. I will never vote for his wife, who is displaying much of her husband’s behavior in this campaign. I guess if he can’t beat him,then you join him. I applaud Samantha Power for saying what we are all thinking. For years we have attempted to explain away why so many people do not like Mrs. Clinton, when perhaps we should have embraced our instincts. So many can be wrong?

If Obama is on top of the ticket, yeah, we may consider Hillary as VP. But just as Obama said, he is running for President. a.k.a. not VP.
esp. not vp for Hillary.
So he will never consider to be a VP for Hillary. We all know a VP for Hillary is a puppet since she already has a co-whaterever — Bill Clinton.
So President Obama or Senator Obama.

The ones who love Obama are also suggesting they are smarter than warren Buffet and Bill Gates, also smarter than Doris Lessing. Doris Lessing is British writer, who just won Nobel literature prize, she said Hillary is the best choice, if Obama is elected, the country will be in turmoil. Usually someone in another country, the 3rd party, can see the things clearly.

Let’s face it. Obama supporter and Clinton supporters hate one another!
They will work to see the destruction of the other candidate in the general.
Obama supporters voting for Nader if Hillary gets the nod.
Clinton supporters voting for McCain of Obama gets the nod.
There really is no way for either to win.
Maybe though it’s for the best. I see the way the Dems are running a nomination process. Example: Thinking it’s OK to have a caucus on Texas to undo the popular vote and limit the influence of Latinos. There are many more examples. Anyway maybe it’s best if they do not control the house, senate, and the Presidency. How will they run the country any better than their nomination?

Rob, how did the high yielding stocks of today start out in the beginning? Untested I do believe so it is my belief that you have to test it to see if will produce.

Now Mr.Bill & we can understand why Hillary did not throw Bill few years ago ?
She had a master plan. She is using (?) him now.
Hillary, as a political mediocre, can go very far for her win !
She knows BILL+HLLARY is stronger than HILLARY !

I’m in Texas too. Lots of Hillary supporter were lied by Obama’s supporters that the Caucus was canceled. Why Jake Tapper in ABC didn’t report this in ABC? So, the Obama’s Caucus win doesn’t mean anything to me!
Yes, we Hillary supporters should unite together. If no Hillary, then McCain. I hope I don’t have to do that, if Obama’s supporters calm down, to face the reality, face the logic, face the details. Even VP position is a big prize for a 2 year senator.

In the worst case if the Dem. split, it’s Obama’s fault. He should not have come out to run at 46 years old, 2 year senator experience.

marya, being VP doesn’t have to be as experienced as president, doesn’t have to be ready for commander-in-chief on day 1. Lookat Chenny, what does he do? Not much. VP doesn’t make many important decisions. He follows president’s commands.

marthlois……I hope you are not one of their educated voters

marya, VP is not assumed president’s work UNLESS the president dies or unavailable. He is the backup of president during crisis. You know, what’s the definition of ‘backup’. Of course VP runs something else, but still VP is VP, president is the one making direction of this country. Cheney and Bush, if they are as what you described, that’s because Bush is not that capable. In a corporation, between CEO and COO, who is bigger, of course CEO. I think you are suggesting VP should be more capable than president.

marya, if you are old, then you more likely vote for Hillary; if I’m young, then I more likely vote for Obama. The truth is the oppisite. Don’t you think your logic is wrong? If VP is the same as president, why Obama doesn’t like the VP position? Another logic error of your statement. I follow the logic. Somebody should be ready on day 1, somebody CAN be ready on day 2. There is difference.

Golfgirlusa: I’m old. I’ve lived a long time, I’m for Obama. I don’t think my logic is incorrect. I think you need to read more history and learn to write more cogently. ‘nough said!

I agree with ‘so saddened’ and other Hillary supporters here, we tend to think logically, we face the reality, we are detail oriented, we like hard working, we respect experience, we respect accomplishments, we do things step by step. we trade based on facts and evidence. we don’t follow the fantasy. We trust eyes more than ears. We know ourselves, not over estimate ourselves — run president when so in experienced.
I’m attracted by SNL. Good bye.

More baloney from the Clintons!
After running one of the most racially
dividing campaigns in U.S. History and despite the Fact that Obama Leads in
delegates and the popular vote(Florida and Michigan do Not Count, ABC),
the Clintons will graciuosly throw Obama
a bone by offering him the VP spot!
After Implying that he won his primaries
by only appealing to black voters1
After calling Obama a “Blank Screen”!
After Implying that Obama is not
qualified to be Commander-in-Chief by running that 3:00AM Ad In Texas.
The Clintons claim is is qualified to be
a heart beat away from the Presidency!
I guess once again we’re talking about the definition of “is”!

I am for a Clinton/Edwards ticket, but if putting BO will keep the kids from crying, I guess we would have to give in to their aggressive bullying and tantrums to get to the Presidency that they are so anxious to bring “Change” too. They can throw “Change” tea parties while Hillary runs things.

Why would Obama want to be on a ticket with Clinton. She has viciously maligned him; I don’t know what Bill can be thinking. Obama/Richardson sounds like a great team to me.

Nick, you have lost touch with reality. Do you really believe that only blacks are voting for Senator Obama? You obviously are not paying attention. I attended a rally with over 25,000 people and blacks made up probably less than 1/5 of the people. You are only referring to stats you have heard about 90% blacks in South Carolina voting for Senator Obama. He would not be ahead in the popular vote right now if only blacks were voting for him. And, this is exactly why I, an older white woman is voting for Obama. We are so sick to death of the scandals of the 90s and of the fact that the Clintons believe that they should just be handed the nomination. They have always felts that way. There is no “inevitability” here, except that in the end Obama will be ahead in the popular vote, states won and elected delegates. That means he will be the next President. Obama 2008!

“I watched several news reports in the days leading up to the Ohio primary where they went to different places like union halls and some of the union memebers came right out and said they were not ready to vote for a black man,even a half black man. Ohio proves once and for all that racism is ignorance.” Madison
Let’s stick to the facts…not just some guess.
The facts are:
Blacks are voting 90 percent for Obama! That’s the ONLY group of people that are supporting Obama by such a large margin. THAT’s RACISM pure and simple. It cannot be denied.

Here we go again. Irma now claims she has a masters degree and therefore what she says is correct. Then she contradicts herself by ridiculing George Bush with high degree and being an “IDIOT” (she used capital). Ha ha ha ha ha. That’s exactly what you are, Irma. You have no leg to stand on. You just keep complimenting people who are for Hillary, and scolding people who are for Obama, without any sensible arguments, sometime no arguments at all. I know you teach elementary school, that’s why I am worried for our children today with such an underqualified person in our classrooms.

Ted, Jason, Go ahead BOYS, tell me why you support your candidate. Specifics.

Jason, just because someone stands up to you all, doesn’t prove that anything you say is valid. I missed your reasons for supporting BO. Your paragraphs are HUGE, yet pointless.

Ted, the other PhD sounds a little English challenged too. I don’t think they would lie about it. Especially if there’s pressure to keep up. Also, who the heck has time to worry about typos? I just want to get going on my remarks, not wanting some to get away with false statements or bullying.

Objectively…it’s very clear that neither one of these candidates can carry the Democratic mantel.
I think I read somewhere that superdelegates were going to try to nominate Gore. It might not be a bad compromise.

haha, some Obama supporters attack me, because I’m front runner? Isn’t it Obama’s logic when McCain attacked him? If it is, then you should support me; if it’s not, then you should not attack me.
You Obama supporters do things in the way conflicting with your own logic. That’s because you don’t have logic.
Hillary supporters can list lots of Hillary’s accomplishments. A Texas woman listed 100 of Hillary’s accomplishments today, please see previous posts. However, Obama supporters can not say clearly why they support him, can not list his accomplishmnents. That’s a problem.

Faux Dem Power Broker Bubba Suggests Hillary-Obama Unstoppable FARCE

Bill Clinton calls Hillary-Obama Ticket ‘an almost unstoppable force’ from Political Radar reports on former President Bill Clinton’s efforts to be a faux Democratic power broker and to frame for the public a dream ticket – with his wife at

Women are by nature emotional creatures and many of them are caught up in this moment and rightfully so. They will come around when Obama wins the popular vote fair and square, they will come around when Obama wins the pledged delegate count, they will come around when Obama wins twice as many states as Clinton and they will come around because he has done it with relative class and in all fairness sticking to all rules layed out ahead of time. However most of Obama’s supporters cannot and will not accept Clinton unless she manages to actually win this thing straight up. Unless they re-do real primaries or caucuses in Florida or Michigan and she wins by landslides she will never mathmatically get there. She has about a 5% reality based chance at pulling this off fairly or face revolt. Clinton supporter’s do you really trust her? Do you really want to give your hard earned money to someone who has 5 million of her own money laying around and refuses to disclose where it came from? In hard economic times does it make sense to give up your money to the person telling you she will fix everything while simultaneously and without shame publicly pleaing for donations to her web campaign? When is the last time you heard Obama in an interview or debate on national TV hype up and plug his website and beg for donations? Hasn’t happened because he doesn’t need to, because his movement is real and his supporters are no sheep. Without being desperate he has shattered every fundraising record in history. I literally feel sorry and sick in my stomach knowing you people are kind enough to send your money to the Clinton’s while they pretend to need it. Wake up folks it’s over, don’t give those crooks anymore of your money. The superdelegates will never choose her over Obama now because this is America and everything comes down to $$$. He is now the single most powerfull money raiser in the Democratic party even bigger than Bill himself. That means more than anything else to them because that means that new money makes the democratic party as a whole that much stronger in all the down ticket elections that lead to house and senate majorities which is exactly what they are chasing. If Hillary can’t manage to do it fair and square by the numbers she’s done. The math say’s she’s got less than a shot in hell.

I agree. How can one make plans for VP when their losing in the three highest contest. States, Delegates, and Popular vote. Like I said, Clinton in NO WAY of shape of form will win Obama supporters. But if Obama chosing a right VP (JOHN EDWARD), He’ll have Hillarys base. Many Clinton supporters say “oh… I’m not voting for Obama”, but when they grasp the fact that their “inevitable” nominee lost, they will.

I can’t believe people are falling for this Clinton spin. HRC is again trying to project herself as the inevitable winner (i.e., hinting at a VP as though she already had the nomination). The fact remains that Obama has won 29 out of 42 contests (With the caucuses, he won the most delegates in Texas) and leads in both the popular vote and pledged delegates. If Obama gets the nomination, he can win with whoever he chooses as VP. HRC, on the other hand, cannot win without Obama on the ticket.

When I listened to Bill (the other half of Hill) speak to these young Mississippian’s about a Clinton/Obama ticket I thought…well, isn’t that just like Bill to willynilly lead people on with lies and distortions. He knows the Hill-Billie ticket is not going to produce the vote they want in Mississippi without stiring up the pot…making it more enticing. Mississippi certainly isn’t missing out on how Bill is doing more campaigning than Hillary either…who is running for president anyways, they are asking? Seems Bill is hitting every small town in every state and what he misses Chelsea is picking up the slack. Sen. Obama seems to be the lone ranger against the crooks and is holding is own against those 3 cross country traveler’s. What’s the loot? Another stay in the White House for Bill! And, because he has aleady had his 2 terms don’t you suppose he’ll be laughing all the way to the White House thinking how he (and she) dupped the American people? Again?

“Again, Obama supporters should consider that Barack Obama at age 50 or 54 running for President, the VP experience should enhance his possibilities. For instance, unlike his 2000-almost beating Bush- run, Al Gore failed miserably running for President in 1988.”
Hmmm…what you should remember is that Obama is winning the popular vote, the pledged delegates and the most states (twice as many than HRC). Why would the front runner choose to be VP to the second place person?

“…he can never win anyway he is winning all the republican states and won’t win those in the general election.”
Have you looked at the number of people voting on the Democratic and Republican side? In many of the states, more people voted for Obama than ALL of the Republican candidates combined. Tens of thousands are people are changing their registration from GOP to Dem because they want to vote for Barack. Obama is not running for President of Half-the-United-States – he’s running for president of the entire country and that includes our Republican friends.

“Ted, Jason, Go ahead BOYS, tell me why you support your candidate. Specifics.”
Irma, how about this:
At first, HRC claimed that she didn’t know she was voting for war when she signed the bill, even though the title was, “Authorization to use Military Force in Iraq.” She then told us that she didn’t read the National Intelligence Estimate report before voting – THIS is “ready on day one”???? Even though she voted for the war, she’s criticized Bush over and over and said basically everything that he’s done is wrong – but why did she vote to label one of Iran’s army units as a terrorist organization? With that label, Bush is now given the same green light to go into Iran the same way he did with Iraq. How can she claim to [now] be against the war, while still giving Bush the power to make more wars? Hypocrisy.

“First, we were lied to and told that Al Qaeda had something to do with 9/11. ”
OOPS! I meant to say, “That Iraq had something to do with 9/11.” My apologies.

Let’s back up a bit here and look at a few realities. It could be debated, but there are many that would be in agreement that Ted Kennedy was not cast in the same mold as Robert. That being stated he did enjoy tremendous support within the Democratic Party. In fact Ted Kennedy held sufficient support to almost guarantee he’d be the nominee of a united Democratic Party, had he made a timely run. As Barack Obama rightly points out, it’s all about fundamental decisions. Ted Kennedy unwisely decided to stake claim to the nomination against the Democratic President seeking a second term. Regardless of the outcome, Ted Kennedy’s decision held no option for the President, Jimmy Carter or Ted Kennedy to move forward with a united Democratic Party. Fast forward to 2007, Hillary Clinton does not run in 2004 but instead she makes a decision to run for the nomination and presidency in 2008. Barack Obama made a very captivating speech at the convention for Kerry. Now examine the options with regard to the maintenance of Democratic Unity the ultimate goal of the party and all its members.
Clinton decides not to run and Obama throws his name in the hat. The Obama campaign and candidacy would be more defined by the public and media from the perspective of where is HILLARY. The status of the candidate would be cast in the vein of a Kerry and the Republicans would take every advantage. Now, Obama is far more skilled then Kerry, he may win the general election, but the starting point and the preferred position for the Democratic Party is not one where the Republicans are armed with the question of where is your most high profile candidate. Second option Clinton and Obama both run and after a rigorous and divisive campaign, Obama wins and the party is divided moving into the all important election. Third option, Clinton wins and the party is divided moving forward. Fourth option, Obama fades quickly and the party is united behind Clinton. Fifth option Obama decides, that although he has strong support there is no probable scenario where the Democratic Party will be united. He does not run and the party is united behind Clinton.
If there is another probable option I don’t know what it would be. The most likely outcome of both candidates running is the one we see unfolding at present. In making this fundamental decision the test or standard to be applied is not based on the final outcome. Party politics is ultimately about uniting behind a strong candidate. Obama may win the nomination and go on to win the Presidency but the fundamental decision can not be applauded in light of the divisive outcome that was reasonable and probable with regard to unity and party fortunes.
There was a political consenus held even by the Obama camp that Clinton would face certain and overwhelming pressures to seek the nomination. In examining this decision you have to step out of the box on as it’s not about liking Clinton or Obama. I’m not stating that he won’t win or that he had no right to seek the nomination. I am stating that with regard to fundamental decisions and getting it right from day one, Obama in the vein of TED KENNEDY many years before, got it wrong. The lack or failure to understand the important aspects of unity or the willingness to make judgments from a utilitarian perspective have place America and the world at risk. This decision should never have been about Clinton or Obama but the existing political realities upon which he was expected to grasp and act.

My long comment from just above is in regards to just that. There is a sixth option and that’s the one Bill Clinton rightfully addressed.

Lars,
This will be my last post as I don’t like the negative talk about lousy candidates. I take no real issue with your math and if you want Obama, I hope he wins. My comment above has nothing to do with math or choosing a candidate. I understand you want him to win and you hate Clinton. My point as posted above it that like Ted Kenndedy he sought the support of a devided Democratic party. I wish you and Obama well but forget for a minute who your rooting for and just be willing to face a few realities about party politics. Again I’m not against Obama.

Nick:
That’s Not Racism! That’s Racial Pride!
I’m of Italian decent and I would be
proud of and vote for former nyc mayor
Rudy Guiliani if he was still running
for president!
Blacks have every reason to be proud of
Barack Obama, he seems to be an
articulate and decent man.
I disagree with him on the issues and that is where the discussion should stay!

For those of you who lived in this country for long enough, we should know that Hillary has already been in our sight for so many years, she has already been examined for so many years in so many aspects. She is still standing up proudly, strongly. That already means she is a great politician, a great leader. Obama just suddenly came out, he is not examined thoroughly yet. Who knows what he is hidding?
My first question to Obama, why does he want to run presidency at 46 years old with 2 year US senator experience? If he is good at eloquenting, giving speeches, wanting change, he can practice in Illinois first. I want to see he can change Illinois state first. If he can not change a state, how can change a country?
My second question to Ted Kenneny is, Kennedy family and Clinton family has long time relationship, why does he support Obama? If he doesn’t support, the Dem. party should be united around Hillary, the nomination should already been wrapped up. Why does he think Obama is another JFK? Why does Obama seek Kennedy’s support? Just because Obama gives speeches, and young, doesn’t mean he is another JFK. JFK was born in Kennedy family, a family who has political influence on America for several generations.
My third question to Obama supporters is, what’s your definition of ‘win’ or ‘lose’? We all know that Bush won presidency over Gore in 2000. We also know that Gore should be a better president than Bush. Does the delegate number really mean who should be president?

Three or four weeks ago, I would be happy to hear this, but no more. Never Clinton, Never!! I have never voted for a Republican, but this time, I may have to if it is McCain versus Clinton. We will have to wait for another four years, but it is better than let Bush/Rove dirty politics continue.

Please don’t scare the Hillary supporters. If Collin Powell runs presidency, I will support him, becuse he is experienced, he served the country for so many years, he is proved to be a clean person, he is modest, he has lots of friends, he can pass the party line to unite the country, he earned respect from both parties, he is definitely a patriotism. I don’t like Obama, not because he is black. I have reasons.
Obama supporters can not say clearly why they like Obama, and they can not list his accomplishments. They like Obama is just because they don’t like Hillary? What a negative attitude!

States won and Popular Vote may not matter in a General Election.
John F. Kennedy in 1960 won theonly 22 states and did not win the popular vote.
Richard Nixon in 1968 won the Presidency without winning the popular vote.
Jimmy Carter won the Presidency in 1976 winning only 23 states plus DC.
Bill Clinton in 1992 won the Presidency without winning the popular vote.
George Bush in 2000 won the Presidency without winning the popular vote.
If you think Al Gore won the 2000 election, he won 20 states plus DC versus Bush with 30 States.
The candidate winning the states with most ELECTORAL VOTES may be considered more ELECTABLE in the general election.
Hillary Clinton already has 263 ELECTORAL VOTES of the states she has won and 270 are needed to win the presidency in a general election.

A voter – I agree, she has run an incompetent campaign.
Maybe she can try again in eight years, with the benefit of this year’s experience at the hands of the harding working, better prepared Obama campaign.

Penny, the Democrat nominee will have minorities regardless, but do you really think Republican women would support Clinton? That’s just a bizarre notion. It ought to be a wake-up call that she’s only getting a small majority of Democratic woman in the primaries.
Her negatives are too high. The Democrats, should they ever awake from this metaphysical slumber, will realize they can’t afford her on the ticket, in either spot.

The Clintons are trying to create the perception that they are worthy of the dream team. Who invited them? They are losers.
Hillary Clinton teamed with anybody would be Nightmare on Elmstreet.
Barack Obama should team up with someone more like himself, someone of decency and integrity. How about:
John Edwards or Joe Biden?

John McCain will be the next President for sure because of Hillary Clinton.
The TIME magazine(3/10/08, cover story) uses three words to describe Nixon -
(insecure, insincere, conspiratorial) – Guess who fits all these three words.

Obama/Clinton is the best choice. The people have spoken. Period.

We are not trying to fulfill Obama’s power-hungry dream. Obama is a flip-flopper and liar. He has split the nation on racial lines. it is very pathetic.
The Dream Ticket is Clinton-Edwards ’08.

After watching John Kerry’s uncontrollable campaign blather about his worship of Barak Obama on a Sunday morning news show, a Clinton/Edwards ticket should be out of the question.
After consenting to be the running mate for the failed Kerry candidacy in 2004, John Edwards carries a significant amount of political baggage.
Association with John Kerry will only serve to emphasize the liberal aspects of a Hillary Clinton administration when a centrist and moderate tone needs to surface in the general election.
In addition, North Carolina is not an electoral rich state and offers no advantage to Hillary Clinton in November, which remains as the ultimate goal.

“unstoppable”? it’s more like an impotent ticket without Obama….
The truth is that in the general election Hillary has no chance in the swing states of Ohio and Florida without Obama supporters…and she ain’t gonna get them without Obama on the ticket.

How about Obama/Rezko?

For those interested in really understanding the process:
The process of selecting Democratic Party delegates is described on the democrats org website. These delegates fall into seven categories:
District-level delegates
At-large delegates
Unpledged party-leader delegates
Unpledged elected-official delegates
Pledged party-leader delegates
Pledged elected-official delegates
Unpledged add-on delegates
Both the Democratic and Republican party have a number of state-level unpledged delegates. They are chosen by each state’s party through a method of its choosing: convention, caucus, or state party leader vote.[4] State-level unpledged delegates tend to vote for the candidate who received the most votes from their state. But they are not required to do so, and some state parties give them more leeway than others). Many state Republican party delegations are made up entirely of unpledged delegates which gives them the distinction “winner take all”.[citation needed] Even with these traditions, unpledged delegates are allowed to change their vote at any time before the national convention. This is why both the Republican and Democratic parties have the potential for a brokered convention.
After examining the rules (not the media or camp projections which all differ), we can see that there are 794 supers because of the death of one and the move of another. If any of the regular delegates do not show for any of the conventions they have, they are replaced and the alternate may not vote the way they were voting.
We can also see that the reason projections differ is because the last state convention is not until June 29. We can also see that the some of the delegates can change their vote at the convention as well as the superdelegates who dont really cast a vote until that time.
The numbers are too close to call for either candidate. Obama stated (when he was behind in projected delegates) that if he gets within 100 delegates that he has a chance. The same is true for Clinton now. If she wins 59% of the remaining delegates, she ties or passes Obama in projected delegates. However, the contest for nominee will still be too close to call and the DNC along with superdelegates will have to help mediate a solution or actually cast votes at the convention.
The party is faced with the likelihood of a split electorate that results in a McCain win in Nov if they dont come up with something that appeals to the majority of the party. Indies and Reps supporting Obama are not part of that party. The real numbers of votes cast by voters (not polls run by the media) show Obama beat McCain without the support of voters who cast votes for Clinton. Clinton can clearly beat McCain without the support of Obama voters. This is entirely based on facts related to how the electoral college works.
A Dem win in Nov is essential to the survival of the democratic party. The Rep party is loving the results of their successful tactics to split the dem voters. The question is: will dem voters and party officials be so stupid as to let them succeed in Nov because of emotional preferences? Probably, because that is what they have done since the JFK/LBJ ticket.
The dems keep trying to nominate liberals and the reps have gotten smart enough to not nominate conservatives. In a diverse nation, the eagle cannot fly on one wing… in recent history, Carter is proof of that… a moderate majority is needed to effectively revive the economy and achieve peace through compromise. One can only hope that the voters of the losing party in most Presidential elections (dems) will get smart and learn to compromise in the interest of a nobler cause – peace and prosperity for all – not just the liberal latte.

In addition to not winning the ELECTORAL VOTES of states won, Barack Obama is not winning the majority of the popular votes these primaries. Gwen Richardson (Obama website) who criticized Clinton wrote “Some individuals are unaware or forget that Bill Clinton did not receive a majority of popular votes in either of his winning presidential elections.”
Obama supporters seem confused by the media bias, thinking that Barack Obama is getting the majority of the popular votes (or 50-plus 1 %) during the 2008 primaries.
28 Million people have cast their votes during the 2008 primaries, with 54% of the votes for Hillary Clinton and other candidates, plus uncommitted.

President Clinton does know best!

Liberal democrats continue to hope and support liberal politicians who cant get anything acomplished like Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, and Al Gore.
Young voters often dont want to be reminded of reality. Several have stated in news coverage that they support Obama because his message ignores that and let’s them have hope. They also think they are immune to health issues and shouldnt have to buy health insurance – they dont care that the parents and other voters have to subsidize their care when they do get sick. They dont want to face facts as most young people dont want to do.
Obama criticizes dynasties yet need to be adopted by one to be a viable candidate. Obama criticizes Clinton’s vote in 2002 (along with 77 Senators) yet has major surrogates that did the same thing. (Clinton camp needs to run an ad about this.) Obama misleads voters about his record and his judgement (supported by fact checkers). Obama supporters are mislead by the MSM which hates Bill Clinton and takes it out on Hillary Clinton. The MSM is all about making money not reporting facts. Their inaccurate math and projections are misleading voters into thinking Obama is the most electable.
The reason most mature voters tend to support Clinton is because they are wiser and she gives them hope that the right things will be accomplished for all. The mature wiser superdelegates, like Bill Clinton, will hopefully show their courage and convictions in helping the party unite for a win in Nov after all the voters have participated by mid-June. This is not as unusual as the media hypes. Check your history.

It is very arrogant and goes to show the sleaze political tactics of Bill Clinton. To assume that Obama is number two in the ticket when Obama at the moment is ahead of Hillary is amazing.
Not to mention an insult to Obama supportes whom are also democrats.
The Clintons will do anything to hold to power. Really the big game is the one world government of big corporations running the show.
These interests know that they need the Bushes in the Republican side and Clintons on the Democratic side, and to brake that sequence is too dangerous because we might actually have a government for the people, tax payers, parents, consumers, citizens etc.
Wakeup Hillary will be a corporate President serving the interests of her biggest money supporters.

Maria – Clinton left the board and denounced WalMart because of the treatment of its workers. Dont let the media hype fool you on that point.
I looked at the credit being given to Obama for turning out voters and his electability. I pulled numbers from each state for the voter tallys because the numbers being given by the media in caucus states does not reflect turnout. Delegate allocation is also not accurate since they are projections only. You can see from the real numbers below that Obama’s wins are not reflective of the voting majority expected in Nov since the turnout was really low where most of his wins are (he isnt getting out the vote – the anit-Rep vote is what is coming out to vote). This means that the media is hyping it and misleading the voters. Here are the actual turnouts with percent of the eligible voters for each state (100% for appointed ones from non-states):
Iowa 16% Obama
South Carolina 30% Obama
Alabama 32% Obama
Alaska 5% Obama
Colorado 6% Obama
Connecticut 20% Obama
Delaware 24% Obama
Democrats Abroad 100% Obama
Georgia 33% Obama
Idaho 2% Obama
Illinois 33% Obama
Kansas 2% Obama
Minnesota 7% Obama
Missouri 33% Obama
North Dakota 6% Obama
Utah 24% Obama
Louisiana 19% Obama
Nebraska 1% Obama
Virgin Islands 100% Obama
Washington 42% Obama
Maine 5% Obama
District of Columbia 29% Obama
Maryland 27% Obama
Virginia 27% Obama
Hawaii 3% Obama
Wisconsin 37% Obama
Vermont 39% Obama
Wyoming 2% Obama
New Hampshire 53% Clinton
Michigan 20% Clinton
Nevada 10% Clinton
Florida 34% Clinton
American Samoa 100% Clinton
Arizona 24% Clinton
Arkansas 26% Clinton
California 40% Clinton
Massachusetts 39% Clinton
New Jersey 30% Clinton
New Mexico 11% Clinton
New York 19% Clinton
Oklahoma 29% Clinton
Tennessee 26% Clinton
Ohio 41% Clinton
Rhode Island 29% Clinton
Texas 28% Clinton
The actual delegate counts not including MI and FL so far are (the last state convention is June 29):
Obama 1128
Clinton 1082.5
Other 12
Unallocated 500.5
Superdelegates 795
Anything can happen – it is too close to call. If the states were all or nothing for the delegates, Clinton would be leading delegate counts by a majority – similar to the electoral vote. Many of the above states are not battleground states and the majority of states Obama will give their electors to McCain no matter who the dem nominee is unless they join forces.
Bottom line? Let the remaining voters speak and let the DNC and superdelegates do their job.

I would like to see Obama step down for the good of the country. He knows Hillary is going to win. If he wins all the states, he still won’t have enough delegates. He knows that. Hillary won all the big states. We need that kind of support to win the White House. The superdelegates will do the right thing for the country. Hillary is the only one to beat McCain. The Republicans are voting for Obama and giving him money. This is the only reason he is getting the small states. Hillary 08

Can anyone reconcile how Hillary can argue that Obama does not have what it takes to be president, then knowing it could help her campaign, she’s practically inviting him to join her on the ticket. Why would she want a VP who does not have the experience to be president?

I just recenetly changed my party affiliation from stern republican, to a devoted democrat. I have been a republican , all my life. The republican party has created an absolute mess around the world, polictically. I believe the best thing for this counrty is a Hillary/Obamma, ticket in November. If you desire a precise political change in Wahington,for a new direction for this country, than choose the dream team. The democrates have a chance to change political history and hang on to the Whitehouse, for the next twenty years. Let us go with the dreamteam Hillary/Obama, and of course Bill in the background. What a team.

Obama/Clinton is the way to go. The main goal has to be to get the Republican war mongers out of the White House. Remember Al Gore lost and John Kerry lost their bids for the top job. Obama by himself has a chance to win but he could also very well end up being just short or one big state away from winning. Remember Florida and Ohio. Hillary could be the difference to put Obama over the top in the election.