Clinton-backer McGovern: Harder to Elect a Woman Than a Black Man
EmailSen. George McGovern, D-SD — whose endorsement of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, you may recall we broke here on this blog — seemed to indicate to the AP in a story that just hopped onto the wires that he thinks Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, has a better chance of getting the Democratic presidential nomination than Clinton.
Why?
Because, said the 1972 Democratic presidential nominee, "I have a feeling that in this country where we’re at today in our thinking, it’s going to be harder to elect a woman than to elect a black man…I wish that
weren’t true … I’d love to see Hillary as president."
McGovern says some men he’s spoken with say that a woman isn’t ready for the responsibility.
"Some guy will say, ‘Well, I think that’s too big a job for a woman, I don’t think she can handle those terrorists,"’ he said. "I think we’ve never had a woman so well qualified that’s on the national scene."
- jpt
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I’m looking forward to our first female president. Just not this woman.
Posted by: Rialb58 | March 25, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
More of the kitchen sink – so now Hillary is going to play the gender card. It’s too late Hillary, you have already alienated life long democrats like myself and most of the people I know who will never think of you and your husband in the same way. It is sad the democratic party has come to this. I am angry that the supers have not stepped in more forcefully to call out the candidates on their negativity and manipulativeness, especially the Clinton’s transparent attempts to undermine the legitimacy of the process. I consider myself a pretty reasonable and moderate person and am surprised at how negative my feelings have gotten for Hillary and her husband. Most of the dems I know will not vote for her if she does manage to wrest away the nomination.
Posted by: Dem | March 25, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
Well, Obama, we’re waiting! Let’s hear about how racist McGovern is.
Posted by: druggstohr | March 25, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Same here.
Noone complained about Margaret Thatcher as being ‘weak’ on the IRA. Noone ever said Golda Meir wasn’t worthy of her job.
I think there ARE far more qualified women on the scene – but they don’t have the Old Buddy Network of Bill Clinton.
Posted by: Ladyvoter | March 25, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Remember, We never had any black President either. Please stop dividing people into races and genders. If any of them win, we will all rally behind Him or Her. I cannot believe people like this idiot making such statement and people fall under this garbage.
Posted by: Truth | March 25, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Another Ferraro???
Hillary is losing the black vote because of surrogates
Wait till the media gets a hold of this
Posted by: Vanessa | March 25, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
I wish I had known that running for president would be so easy for blacks. I would have done it years ago.
Posted by: Leroy Jones | March 25, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Shes trying to rile up votes. Simple.
Get women all upset and outraged at hearing that, so they’ll vote for Clinton. Sigh…So transparent, but the wrong kind.
Voters aren’t as stupid as they used to be, it’s a different age. An Internet age, where voters are informed, by many angles, minute by minute. It is harder to deceive us. UNLESS, we don’t understand English well or are old and fearful or uneducated. These voters may not be informed enough to rebut the deceptive tactics.
Wonder who they vote for?
Posted by: Carl | March 25, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Sexism is alive and well and the Obama campaign is doing its very best to exploit it and use it to their advantage.
Posted by: no pasaran | March 25, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Something to think about:
• Mary McAleese, President of Ireland (1997- )
• Vaira Vike-Freiberga, President of Latvia (1999- )
• Helen Clark, Prime Minister of New Zealand (1999- )
• Tarja K. Halonen, President of Finland (2000- )
• Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, President of the Philippines (2001- )
• Khaleda Zia, Prime Minister of Bangladesh (1991-1996, 2001- )
• Luisa Diogo, Prime Minister of Mozambique (2004- )
• Maria do Carmo Silveira, Prime Minister of Sao Tome and Principe (2005- )
• Angela Merkel, Chancellor of Germany (2005- )
• Michelle Bachelet, President of Chile (2006- )
• Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf, President of Liberia (2006- )
• Portia Simpson-Miller, Prime Minister of Jamaica (2006- )
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Previous women heads of state or government
Africa
• Elisabeth Domitien, Prime Minister of Central African Empire (1975-1976)
• Agathe Uwilingiyimana, Prime Minister of Rwanda (1993)
• Silvie Kinigi, Interim President of Burundi (1993-1994)
• Ruth Perry, Chairman of State Council, Liberia (1996-1997)
• Madior Boye, Prime Minister of Senegal (2001-2002)
• Maria das Neves, Prime Minister of Sao Tome & Principe (2002-2004)
Americas
• Isabel Peron, President of Argentina (1974-1976)
• Lucinda da Costa Gomez-Mattheeuws, Prime Minister of Netherlands Antilles (1977)
• Lidia Gueilier, Caretaker President of Bolivia (1979-1980)
• Eugenia Charles, Prime Minister of Dominica (1980-1995)
• Maria Liberia Peters, Prime Minister of the Netherlands Antilles (1984-1986, 1988-1994)
• Ertha Pascal-Trullot, Acting President of Haiti (1990-1991)
• Violeta de Chamorro, President of Nicaragua (1990-1996)
• Kim Campbell, Prime Minister of Canada (1993)
• Claudette Werleigh, Prime Minister of Haiti (1995-1996)
• Rosalia Arteaga, Caretaker President of Ecuador (1997)
• Pamela Gordon, Premier of Bermuda (1997-1998)
• Janet Jagan, President of Guyana (1997-1999)
• Suzanne Romer, Prime Minister of Netherlands Antilles (1993, 1998-1999)
• Jennifer Smith, Premier of Bermuda (1998-2003)
• Mireya Moscoso, President of Panama (1999-2004)
• Beatriz Merino, Prime Minister of Peru (2003)
Asia-Pacific
• Sirimavo Bandaranaike, Prime Minister of Sri Lanka (1960-1965, 1970-1977, 1994-2000)
• Indira Gandhi, Prime Minister of India (1966-77, 1980-1984)
• Golda Meir, Prime Minister of Israel (1969-1974)
• Corazon Aquino, President of Philippines (1986-1992)
• Benazir Bhutto, Prime Minister of Pakistan (1988-1990, 1993-1996)
• Khaleda Zia, Prime Minister of Bangladesh (1991-1996, 2001-)
• Tansu Ciller, Prime Minister of Turkey (1993-1996)
• Chandrika Kumaratunga, President of Sri Lanka (1994-2005)
• Sheikh Hasina Wajed, Prime Minister of Bangladesh (1996-2001)
• Jenny Shipley, Prime Minister of New Zealand (1997-1999)
• Nyam-Osoriyn Tuyaa, Interim Prime Minister of Mongolia (1999)
• Megawati Sukarnoputri, President of Indonesia (2001-2004)
• Chang Sang, Acting Prime Minister of South Korea (2002)
Europe
• Maria de Lourdes Pintassilgo, Prime Minister of Portugal (1979-1980)
• Margaret Thatcher, Prime Minister of Great Britain (1979-1990)
• Vigdis Finnbogadottir, President of Iceland (1980-1996)
• Gro Harlem Brundtland, Prime Minister of Norway (1981, 1986-1989, 1990-1996)
• Maria Pedini-Angelini, Captain-Regent of San Marino (1981)
• Milka Planinc, Prime Minister of Yugoslavia (1982-1986)
• Agatha Barbara, President of Malta (1982-1987)
• Gloriana Rannocchini, Captain-Regent of San Marino (1984, 1989-1990)
• Kazimira Prunskiene, Prime Minister of Lithuania (1990-1991)
• Sabine Bergmann-Pohl, State President of German Democratic Republic (1990)
• Mary Robinson, President of Ireland (1990-1997)
• Edda Ceccoli, Captain-Regent of San Marino (1991-1992)
• Edith Cresson, Prime Minister of France (1991-1992)
• Hanna Suchocka, Prime Minister of Poland (1992-1993)
• Patricia Busigani, Captain-Regent of San Marino (1993)
• Marita Petersen, Prime Minister of Faroe Islands (1993-1994)
• Renata Indzhova, Interim Prime Minister of Bulgaria (1994-1995)
• Biljana Plavsic, President of Republika Srpska (Bosnia-Hercegovina) (1996-1998)
• Ruth Dreifuss, President of Switzerland (1998-1999)
• Rosa Zafferani, Captain-Regent of San Marino (1999)
• Irena Degutiene, Acting Prime Minister of Lithuania (1999)
• Mireya Moscoso, President of Panama (1999-2003)
• Maria Domenica Michelotti, Captain-Regent of San Marino (2000)
• Natasa Micic, Acting President of Serbia (2002-2003)
• Annelli Jaatteenmaaki, Prime Minister of Finland (2003)
• Nino Burzhanadze, Acting President of Georgia (2003)
• Yulia Timoshenko, Prime Minister of Ukraine (2005)
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Women Vice-Presidents
• Aisatou N’Jie Saidy, Vice-President of The Gambia (1997- )
• Annette Lu, Vice-President of Taiwan (2000- )
• Sandra Sumang Pierantozzi, Vice-President of Palau (2001- )
• Lineth Saborio Chaverri, Vice-President of Costa Rica (2002- )
• Ana Vilma de Escobar, Vice-President of El Salvador (2004- )
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Women Heads of State (non-royal)
• Dame Pearlette Louisy, Governor-General of Saint Lucia (1997- )
• Michaelle Jean, Governor-General of Canada (2005- )
• Dame Silvia Cartwright, Governor-General of New Zealand (2001- )
• Dame Ivy Dumont, Governor-General of The Bahamas (2002- )
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Posted by: marie | March 25, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
Look at the list I just posted; many 3rd world countries but never USA.
Why is that??
Posted by: marie | March 25, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Carl – I agree with you that (most) voters aren’t stupid, but your comment insinuates that women are stupid and so are the uneducated and the older generations……. and isn’t that a contradiction since women, non-college educated and older people vote. Come to think of it, if you added up those demographic groups when looking at the voting pool, I think you would come up with significantly more than 50% of the total voting population in this country Think before you post. You’re showing your prejudice.
Posted by: mhhunt | March 25, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Well although hillary’s the first woman to run, I think overall she’s not someone we’d like to represent us.
Yes, she has qualities than are great, it’s the trust and honesty issue, etc.
It’s the fact that she has the lowest favorably ratings and they keep going down and that whatever she does accomplish as president, will no doubtbly we contributed to bill.
I hope woman see this. It’s more important to have the right person represents us cause if we don’t it will defintely backfire for the future. Think about that.
Posted by: respect001122 | March 25, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Hillary Clinton was fine until MSM started and so will Obama be but don’t think it will be easy no matter who wins the republicans are waiting for thier prey
Posted by: Bishop | March 25, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
How could anyone ever vote for someone to be our President who has to defend herself with these words:
“I made a mistake. That happens. It shows I’m human, which for some people is a revelation.”
“It shows I’m human” – if that should be a pleasant surprise to us, or even a joke, then she acknowledges that she is considerably less human than we’d want our President to be.
A scary woman. People talk about the “Clinton machine”. It comes in two parts: Bill is the Clinton, Hillary the machine.
Posted by: Harko | March 25, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Clinton is a sexist, so is her husband.
Posted by: Anony | March 25, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
I am ready too for a Female President – Like Kathleen Sebelius or Janet Napolitano – BUT NOT HILLARY CLINTON – TOO MUCH BAGGAGE – WAY TOO MANY LIES – TOO MANY SECRETS!
Posted by: latinovoter1 | March 25, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Quite a few of us are ready for a woman president – and that woman is Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: mhhunt | March 25, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Way to try to inject race and gender into the campaign. I think theyve realized if the campaign denegrates into a sexism racism fight it benefits Clinton. This country is ready for a woman but it has to be the right woman. A woman who is self made…not one that rides in on the coat tails of her adulturous husband. Obama is a self made man..raised by a single mother of moderate income..there were no coat tails for Obama to run on. He had to earn every vote himself.
Posted by: Wayne | March 25, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
Race and gender shouldn’t even be an issue. If you’re looking for great examples of women who were all wrong for their country, look no further than Maggie Thatcher. Her gender wasn’t wrong, her m.o. was…
Posted by: Bob Dobolino | March 25, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Wayne: Let’s not forget the grandmother who he threw under the bus fro Rev. Wright I think she should get some credit!
Posted by: russell | March 25, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
ROTFLMAO and McGovern was such a product of the political machine that he couldn’t get elected either. Good luck with that endorsement Hillary…think we will keep Richardson.
Posted by: Sam | March 25, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
I’ll take Hillary over Kerry, Kennedy, Obama and McCain put together. She is a fighter. I know all you Obamabots wish she’d just go home. She’s in it to win and she will against the Republican machine. Obama is having trouble convincing Democrats. Obama is just an ego-driven, ambitious politician. He takes credit for other people’s work. I saw the AP story about him including himself in Senate photo-ops when he had nothing to do with the legislation. Where has he been on NATO and the committe he heads. No hearings on Afganistan. Not important when you are trying to make a name for yourself. He was elected to do the people’s business, not to become some civil rights icon. He’s done alot to hurt the civil rights movement as far as I’m concerned. God damned America? I can’t get that out of my head.
Posted by: glennmcgahee | March 25, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Hillary’s own “church group” is more of a cult than Obama’s. Why is she hanging out with right-wing nuts like Santoram?
Posted by: Jarisha | March 25, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
I liked Hillary at the beginning. But as we go on, I have realised that she is a woman of cheap politics.
She is handicapped by her own baggage, and it has to do with her character and not her gender.
She is talking about her experience just to carry the day.
I hope out there, they are “iron ladies” who can take the task, unfortunately they dont show up!
Posted by: Peace | March 25, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
I would LOVE to see the pragmatic intellectual Hillary Clinton beat the snot out of John-I-don’t-know-economics-McCain! She can hang with the big boys. No doubt in my mind.
Posted by: SoniaB | March 25, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Scott Wells: Now if Obama would just ditch that americian hating wife and pastor then maybe he could get elected!
Posted by: russell | March 25, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Ant: You wrote:
“Also, I would have Wright as my pastor before I would have Clintonas my president.”
I’m sending you “Uncle” Wright’s DVD collection for you and your loved ones. Enjoy!
Posted by: Jimmy | March 25, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
I would vote for a black president just not Obama
Posted by: Bishop | March 25, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
I do not think that being a woman is the issue. Margret Thatcher did well in UK. But a lying woman and one who cries at the smallest stress? Someone who is ready to destroy Democratic Party to achieve her goal? She is simply not a presidiential stuff. Period
Posted by: Godson Pett | March 25, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Jimmy:
Make sure it’s the unabridged version — you know, the one that doesn’t take a few snippets out of context!!
It may cost you more, but the impact of electing the nation’s first black president — PRICELESS!!!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!
Posted by: Jackt51 | March 25, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
The reason Clinton is behind is because of the dirty campaign she and her supporters have waged. Every day something new about gender or race is aired by her people. I frankly am sick of it. Her viralent staff of paid bloggers doesn’t help the situation for herself either. Although I am a Ron Paul supporter, I have taken an interests in the Clinton vs. Obama debate going on in these blogs. The Clinton bloggers are so mean spirited, that now I hope Obama runs away with it.
Posted by: Ben Straub | March 25, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
There is a list on here….that proves we are behind in the times.
Posted by: Bobby | March 25, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
You guys are acting like kindergarteners. I hope you’ll be able to put your strong emotions aside and be able to vote for a Democrat during the general election, no matter who it is.
Posted by: GA Dem | March 25, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Shirley Chisholm, I remember *you*.
Posted by: feminist | March 25, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Roger Miller (hopefully not of “Trailer for Sale or Rent” fame), said:
“Barack Obama should condemn 9/11 attacks on the United States and he should also condemn Osama Bin Laden.”
What makes you think he hasn’t, Roger? Or have you been reading Newsmax or watching Fixed News reports again?!?
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!
Posted by: Jackt51 | March 25, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
You guys are acting like kindergarteners. I hope you’ll be able to put your strong emotions aside and be able to vote for a Democrat during the general election, no matter who it is that is nominated.
Posted by: GA Dem | March 25, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
You guys are acting like kindergarteners. I hope you’ll be able to put your strong emotions aside and be able to vote for a Democrat during the general election, no matter who it is that is nominated.
Posted by: GA Dem | March 25, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Ben Straub: You see Ben thats the problem we Democrats have and that is the perception that we are not patriotic,that we blame america first ect. I don’t think that what Rev Wright and Michelle Obama have said is going to further our images with working class americans. I think that this Pastor Disastor is not only going to hurt Obama but it will continue the perception in many peoples mind that the Democratic party is the party of left wing blame america first and that will mean disaster in the fall.
Posted by: russell | March 25, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Hillary must stick it out … to the convention so that Fla & MI dems are not disenfranchised…, ’cause Obama will cut them out. Its called John Dean’s “48 state strategy.” When she gets to count those delegates she waon fairly and factor in the popular vote being disenfranchised… she’s ahead of the inexperienced Junior Senator from the Great State of Illinois… who was too inexperienced to keep his name on the ballot in MI. Then again he absorbed a whuppin’ in Fla and probably felt he couldn’t take another … “so get my name off the MI ballot!” Too bad…. but Hillary was smarter then he was or is.
Posted by: Wendelll | March 25, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
russell, get this straight. Obama’s wife did not say she hates America. Being negative does not help you. She was talking about election and how different races voted. You need to know that there has never been in the history of America where a black man would get support like Obama did. In that respect she is proud for the first time and so are we whom this has been affecting. In other words there seems to be unity which used not to be there before.
Posted by: Flora | March 25, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
Hillary has really done very little to hurt Obama he himself who is a Harvard grad. continued to sit under a racist Pastor Fox made sure America knew and if any one played the race card its been the media now if you Obama supporters can’t take this you’ll never make it to the white house
Posted by: Bishop | March 25, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
russell – Thanks for your response. I myself am a antiwar fiscal conservative. That is why I support Paul. The only problem I have with democrats in general is that many subscribe to social welfare and government support that we can not afford. Obama is actually the worst in this sense. People no longer know how to wipe their own noses. If we have the money for some programs that make sense then so be it, but if we don’t let’s not promise the stuff without reservation. While I follow traditional republican conservatism, the republican party has become big government war mongerers. I do not question dems patriotism. I think anyone that does is a brainwashed-by-Hannity-and-company fool.
Posted by: antenian | March 25, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
HOW CLINTON AND OBAMA ARE ALIKE
* Their positions are often barely distinguishable from that of the Republicans
* They have built their campaigns around genetic identity rather than on political principles and issues.
* “I would be stunned to find an anti-business [Supreme Court] appointee from either of them,” Cass Sunstein, who is a constitutional adviser to Obama, told me. “There’s not a strong interest on the part of Obama or Clinton in demonizing business, and you wouldn’t expect to see that in their Supreme Court nominees.” – Jeffrey Rosen, NY Times
* They take multiple positions on individual issues such as NAFTA
* They have produced no interesting new ideas nor promised to fight for any important new programs
* They have offered no good idea about how to handle the current economic crisis
* They have gone about their campaigns as though they were leading a cult rather than a political movement
* Clinton hangs out with a covert group of right wing GOP Christians; Obama would name some of them to his cabinet.
* They have similar voting records with Progressive Punch ranking Obama 24th and Clinton 19h in Senate
* The both dissed Nader for daring to run for president again
* Obama wrote that conservatives and Bill Clinton were right to destroy social welfare, Clinton supported her husband’s program
* Hillary Clinton comes in at 38th and Obama at 48th in the ranking of the League of Conservation Voters
* Both have hawkish foreign policy advisors involved in past US misdeeds and failures
* Both support Israeli aggression and apartheid. Obama has deserted previous support for two-state solution to Mid East situation
* Both have voted numerous times to continue funding the war
* Both support or won’t oppose nuclear power
* Both support war on drugs
* Both support Real ID
* Both support No Child Left Behind
* Both supported crack-cocaine sentence disparity
* Both oppose single payer healthcare
* Both support PATRIOT Act
* Both support the death penalty
* Both have no clear plan to leave Iraq and Afghanistan
* Both support charter schools
* Both support federally funded ethanol
HOW CLINTON AND OBAMA ARE DIFFERENT
* Clinton would continue the 28 year old Reagan – Bush – Clinton – Bush era; Obama would probably end it.
* While both have misled voters, Clinton has by far the worst record, witness the cattle futures, Whitewater, travel office and similar scandals as well as the fact that five of her fundraisers have been convicted of, or pleaded no contest to, crimes and one fled the country after being indicted on charges related to raising money.
* While they both have had seamy friends, so far only one has surfaced for Obama – Rezko – as opposed to a lengthy list for Clinton that begins with three close business partners who ended up in prison.
* Obama, unlike Clinton, has never been almost indicted.
* Obama, unlike Clinton, has never been mentioned 35 times in a criminal indictment.
* Obama, unlike Clinton, has been involved in a resort land scam with in which about half the purchasers, many of them seniors, lost their property.
* Obama, unlike Clinton, is not currently being sued in a case involving an allegedly massive misreporting of campaign contributions.
* Obama, unlike Clinton, did not support the appointment of the now indicted Bernie Kerick to be head of Homeland Security
* Obama would be good at international negotiations; foreign leaders wouldn’t know whether to trust Clinton.
* Obama is not married to Bill Clinton
* Obama has revealed his tax returns; Clinton hasn’t
* Clinton thinks McCain would be better qualified for the White House than Obama; Obama would rather have Clinton than McCain
* The Clinton administration, according to an HRC ad, wouldn’t answer an emergency White House call until the sixth ring; the Obama administration, it is implied, would wait for the seventh.
* Obama voted against immunity for telecoms’ illegal spying on Americans; Clinton didn’t show up for the vote.
* Obama has inspired a lot of young and minority voters to get involved in politics; Clinton has relied upon a traditional and aging constituency.
* Obama favored cluster bomb ban in civilian areas; Clinton opposed the ban
* Obama says “everything is on the table” with Social Security. Clinton seems slightly more supportive of the classic Democratic program
* Obama opposed putting heating fuel assistance for low income in stimulus bill; Clinton supported it
OBAMA ALSO. . .
* Promises not to sign a trade bill without environmental and labor protections.
* Helped fight for restoration of habeas corpus at Gitmo.
* Aggressively opposed impeachment action against Bush.
* Wouldn’t have photo taken with San Francisco mayor because he was afraid it would seem that he supported gay marriage
* Opposes lowering the drinking age to 18
* Supported restricting damage awards in medical malpractices suits
* Supported making it harder to file class action suits in state courts
* Misled on extent on lobbyist support
* Called the late Paul Wellstone “something of a gadfly”
* Voted for a business-friendly “tort reform” bill
* Voted for a nuclear energy bill that included money for bunker buster bombs and full funding for Yucca Mountain.
* Won’t rule out first strike nuclear attack on Iran
* Received $708,000 from medical and insurance interests between 2001 and 2006
* Went to Connecticut to support Joe Lieberman in the primary against Ned Lamont
* Refuses to take a position on the anti-constitutional Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act
* Called Pakistan “the right battlefield … in the war on terrorism.” Threatened to invade Pakistan
* Sounds sort of like Tony Robbins
* Uses various evangelical cons to win supporters
* Has not revealed his proposed policies in many areas and where he has they primarily consist of minor alterations in the status quo
* Voted against a 30% interest rate cap on credit cards
* Opposed the war as a state senator, is less certain as a federal one and has voted for full funding of it
* Wrote critically in his books of the New Deal and the New Left while praising Bill Clinton
CLINTON ALSO . . .
* Favors healthcare individual mandates that would help insurance companies and banks but not citizens
* Has the most number of foreign lobbyist contributors
* Is even more popular with Pentagon contractors than McCain
* Is most popular with K Street lobbyists
* Is only First Lady to come under criminal investigation
* Has received the most funds from oil industry
* Has received the most funds from health industry
* Gave most number of evasive answers (250) to congressional inquiries
* Submitted the largest false campaign finance report
Posted by: tai hunter | March 25, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
He is right…the discrimiation against women is still there but much more subtle today. If Hillary were a man and you compared her experience/qualifications, etc.. against Obama, which one would be better qualified to be president? Have the best chance of success to turn the country around? I have been very curious why the media has been so very easy on Obama and given him a pass. Yet the media has been harsh on McCain and Clinton. Could it be that the media is attempting to influence the outcome of the election? If you do a comparison of the positive media coverage of Obama, it is significantly higher than if all the coverage of McCain and Clinton combined. What does that tell you? The media is having a love affair with Obama. Since when does the media know anything about selecting a president? Let me ask you this…if Obama was a woman, would you vote for her? Would you believe she had the right skills/experience to be president? Could she handle the job? Would she be the most qualified? Flip it around and then you begin to see the gender bias we have.
Posted by: terry | March 25, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Marie because there is not a woman running that is capeable of running this country,if there was I would vote for her.Not a lying witch that would do anything to get back in the White House…
Posted by: h | March 25, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Hey IAM,
You can always drop out and just leave the country. Good luck with what you hope for.
Posted by: bob | March 25, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
DCVoter – Say it isn’t so!! Where is this info?
“Obama has a prolific presidential lineage that features Democrats and Republicans. His distant cousins include President George W. Bush and his father, George H.W. Bush, Gerald Ford, Lyndon Johnson, Harry S. Truman and James Madison. Other Obama cousins include Vice President Cheney, British Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill and Civil War General Robert E. Lee.”
Posted by: antenian | March 25, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
He is right 100%! As a man, if there has been one thing I have learned in this election season. The press is very sexist! A lot of men in this country still have issues with women being in charge out of the bedroom. A lot of men are sexist. Everyone, is afraid of being labeled a racist. However, sexism seem to be in fashion!
Proof… when was the last time you saw a story on sexism in the news? Yet, the race card is played everyday in MSM.
Sexism is the new black!
Posted by: Perry | March 25, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
I certainly hope it’s harder to elect that particular woman than a “black” man (a.k.a. African-American). I wouldn’t mind a woman president, but not That Woman.
Posted by: andonandon | March 25, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
The problem is not that people don’t want a woman president. It’s that they don’t want Hillary Clinton to be president. She is doing a huge disservice to all women by staying in this race. She needs to give it up.
Posted by: Mary | March 25, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Why not Hillary? According to Obama she meets the most important criteria, she is a Typical White Woman!
Posted by: russell | March 25, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
LOL DCVoter…..maybe Obama is related to McCain too, I remember Obama having amnesia while attending Wright’s sermons on Friday and then Monday he remembered it all conveniently in his “Protecing Crazy Uncle Wright Speech” !!!!
Posted by: MattOhio | March 25, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Q Pulpit: Our canidate loves america yours doesn’t!
Posted by: russell | March 25, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Mattohio: Obama does not have amnesia, that is for uneducated,working class people he has the more educated form of the disease it is called Cerebral Eclipse!
Posted by: russell | March 25, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Candi: Obama can give up but Hillary will never give up on America,she is a fighter and she is fighting for all of us. God Bless Hillary and God Bless America!
Posted by: russell | March 25, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
It Seems that Clinton has mispoke more then once on this Bosnia issue:
CBS/AP) Hillary Rodham Clinton said Tuesday she made a mistake in claiming that she came under hostile fire in Bosnia 12 years ago, as rival Barack Obama’s campaign continued to challenge her credibility.
In a recent speech and interviews, the New York senator described a harrowing scene in Tuzla, Bosnia, in which she and her daughter, Chelsea, had to run for cover as soon as they landed for a visit in 1996. But video footage of the day showed a peaceful reception in which a young girl greeted the first lady on the tarmac.
Clinton told reporters in Pennsylvania on Tuesday that she erred in describing the scene, which she now realizes after talking with aides and others.
“So I made a mistake,” she said. “That happens. It proves I’m human, which you know, for some people, is a revelation.”
She claimed she misspoke and was sleep deprived, but CBS News has found several times in the past few months Senator Clinton used the Bosnia trip to try to show her international experience, reports Sharyl Attkisson. Clinton did so in Iowa in December, Texas in February and also last week.
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Watch Attkisson’s report, complete with new video from the Tusla tarmac.
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After CBS News video showed what really happened when she landed and greeted officials, Senator Clinton maintained there were risks but explained to the Philadelphia Daily News why she was seen on the Bosnia tarmac greeting a young child if it was really so dangerous.
“I was also told that the greeting ceremony had been moved away from the tarmac but that there was this eight-year-old girl and I said, ‘Well, I, I can’t, I can’t rush by her, I’ve got to at least greet her,” Clinton said. “So I greeted her, I took her stuff and I left. Now that’s my memory of it.”
Once again her memory doesn’t match CBS News videotape, Attkisson reports. She and her daughter Chelsea lingered on the tarmac to greet U.S. military officials, took photos, and then walked to the armored vehicle where she did, eventually, duck and enter.
The more important issue, Clinton said, is whether she would be a better commander-in-chief than Obama or Republican presidential candidate John McCain. Clinton and Obama are competing for votes in Pennsylvania’s April 22 primary.
Clinton’s aides had tried to control the Bosnia flap Monday, saying the New York senator “
Posted by: Thinking | March 25, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
By the way, Clinton needs to sort out her memory problems. She can’t remember the day well enough to get it right. But she cane remember the day well enough to make excuses for why she got it wrong
Posted by: Frank McCandless | March 25, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
Dear Superdelegates,
I am a white, middle-aged, lifetime Democrat with an MBA. Prior to the controversy with Rev Wright, I would have supported ANY Democrat you placed on the ballot in November. But now I will stay home if Obama is your choice. Please let me explain why. Throughout my college and working life, I have seen many blacks given opportunities that I myself would have appreciated. But I wasn’t and had to work hard to get everything I got in life. Now that I am retired, I need a candidate with their priorities straight and Obama is too focused on the African-American community and their all-about-me whining. With gas and heating prices escalating, the market tanking, grocery costs taking its bite out of a fixed pension and the Iraq war draining our resources, it’s the economy again, stupid.
Posted by: Barbara | March 25, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Scooter libby lied
George bush lied
Bill clinton lied
Rumsfield lied
The CIA lied
etc….
Hilary Clinton Misspoke
isn’t that amazing?
Posted by: sami victorio | March 25, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
I’m a great admirer of Germany’s Angela Merkel and I’d LOVE to have a Madame President here at home. But nothing would be so damaging for the ideal of having women run high offices as a Hillary Clinton Presidency.
CBS proved and demonstrated today on video that over a larger period of time during this campaign she lied at least 4 times about her Bosnia “experience”. And she lied about her last account of it by saying that she ‘misspoke’ out of a lack of sleep… That is lie after lie on a serious issue (visiting a country at war) and as such it is a total disqualification of any presidential candidate. Remember, she brought this story herself to convince voters of the depth of her international experience.
The bottom line is that Hillary Clinton cannot be trusted for what she says. She defends lies by constructing new lies, like we only expect children or criminals to do. 44% of Americans recently thought her to be trustworthy, in comparison to McCain’s 67% and Obama’s 65%. Her very low figures will now drop even further.
I personally think Hillary Clinton is a disgrace to talented and ambitious women, a disgrace to this campaign and a disgrace to our country.
Posted by: Federique | March 25, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Hilliary Clinton will elect John McCain, and all of the closet “Dr. Stranglove” warhawks in the Democratic, and Republican parties will squeal with glee after they start World War III with Iran. Just tell me how you expect that whole starting nuclear war with the entire muslim world thing is going to do with the safety of you, your family or your property. I guess the whole world suffering from your misjudgement is kinda endemic in the Democrat and Republican parties. First you gave us Bush and now you insist on Hiliary, yup you folks are damn fools. Oh well, see you at the rapture your so fond of. Hope you’ve been good, aw who we kidding. I guess you guys are gonna be “left behind.” Ha!
Posted by: cba | March 25, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
Q Pulpit:
Admit it. You are Obama’s top Kool-aid distributor aren’t you?
Posted by: Brian | March 25, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
The bottom line here is that Hillary Clinton can’t win this thing legitimately. Facing that scenario, John Edwards dropped out of the race. Hillary, on the other hand, continues to run in spite of long, long odds against her.
From her perspective, destroying Obama is the only option left that MIGHT get her the high percentage wins she would need in all, or almost all, of the remaining contests. Given Obama’s lead in North Carolina, and likely win of several other contests, her only hope is to keep hurling poop and hope enough of it stinks that people notice the odor and blame it on Obama, not on Clinton. Kinda like the older sister thing, where she torments you, and you respond, and you’re the one who gets caught. Same thing often happens in basketball and football.
Anyway, to carry out this strategy, she has to care so little about the American public and the democratic party that she is willing to sacrifice the election to John McCain.
Which brings us to part two. If Obama wins the nomination, but she provides ammunition for the Repugnants, resulting in a McCain win, she can run for President in 2012, rather than 2016 when she’s around the age John McCain is now.
Tonya Harding is as good an analogy as any for her strategy. We can only hope that it won’t work!!!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!
Posted by: Jackt51 | March 25, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
The Democrats have given us a choice of two completely unqualified persons as their nominee. This is one of the most important elections ever, and the Dems give us no alternative to John McCain. Good grief.
Posted by: Doc Savage | March 25, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
PRINCETON, NJ — Hillary Clinton is rated as “honest and trustworthy” by 44% of Americans, far fewer than say this about John McCain (67%) and Barack Obama (63%).
Posted by: Thinking | March 25, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Good grief! Did George McGovern really say that? He must have fallen asleep during the lead up to the Iraq War and not noticed that Hillary Clinton was cheering it on for the first few years – changing her mind in 2006 when the Democrats started thumping the Republicans over it. That is the reason she is losing. She had ALL the advantages in this race, but decided she wanted to be the macho “commander in chief” in waiting and authorize a stupid war. If anyone should understand why that shows poor judgment it should be George McGovern. You make me sorry I worked on your campaign in 1972 if you are really that shallow. Maybe you need to have a chat with some of your former colleagues at the Institute for Policy Studies and they can explain it to you.
Posted by: Chuck | March 25, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
jackt51 you are a genius, you comments are perfectly true, i expect more hillary supporters who love the party and see hillary’s fight as a chase after the north winds, to join obama, the clinton seem to believe they are entitled to rule america. they expect their former cabinet members to be puppets and support them or else…., some cowardly ones think the clintons can still perform some miracles and so they are holding on out of fear for their political careers.
my friends, times have changed……..
Posted by: noo york | March 25, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Anyway, one thing is certain:
Hillary has been the only First Lady in our history who has been indicted for commiting criminal acts.
So I guess that, yes, she has experience.
Posted by: Marty | March 25, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
George, admit it. The men you are talking about are the past losing presidential candidates in your own party. And that’s really not the reason because they’ve done everything in their “POWER” to finish her off and they still haven’t done it. They won’t be able to control her like they could someone else and They just can’t stand it. Isn’t it ironic that they “say” they don’t think she could handle terrorists and yet at the first sign of trouble Barack throws his grandmother under the bus?
Posted by: RL in Illinois | March 25, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
Yes, “barbara” we believe you. But most of the party don’t agree with you.
Posted by: Superdelegates | March 25, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
gender card, clearly, it is ridiculous. I’m not voting for her because she has already lied and mislead us in her campaign, chosen to hide information to let us know more about her and how she handles her affairs. and that her plans are not what this country needs. I could care less whether she was a woman or not.
Posted by: Louis | March 25, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Yes, she can.
Posted by: Mandelay3 | March 25, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
“Harder to Elect a Woman Than a Black Man”
So a vote for her is a vote wasted then. Apart from all the other reasons not to support her.
Posted by: Pragmatist | March 25, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Dear,dear Sexism is as what?… 1960′s not 1970′s. Research Barack’s change of heart on the middle east.
Posted by: RL in Illinois | March 25, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
The people who don’t like Hillary isn’t because she is a woman…it might be that she is not the best candidate…
or maybe because she has the same ethics as her husband…and this time …we aren’t buying.
Posted by: dl | March 25, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
1984 CONVENTION:
Ultimately, though, the party caved and allowed the delegations to be seated.
Posted by: done_with_DNC | March 25, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Is it possible that Americans have so lost all sense of right and wrong, ethics and morality, honesty and decency, that they cannot even tell the difference between a bold face lie for self benefit and an honest mistake. It’s possible that one could forget that the day one went to a war zone a particular individual was or was not there. It’s possible to forget during what year a trip might have been. One might forget that a cute little girl brought flowers to the airport and kissed us, etc, etc, etc. However, a person does not remember being shot at unless it happened, as that is a traumatic experience. Hence, a person will not—is not—able to remember being shot at when it did not happen, unless the person is in need of serious psychiatric care. The only option left is that the person has lied, lied, lied. So the fact that various news media speakers seem to be supporting this lie brings into question all their credibility and integrity. If they are willing to claim that the senator’s lies were innocent mistaken recalls, why should we not conclude that they are also unethical and immoral liars.
Posted by: joe radskin | March 25, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Hillary to serve the country should be in the Senate right now promoting her ideas to solve the subprime crisis. Barack Obama should be in contest with McCain, NOT defending the democractic party ’08 nomination against Hillary who was Not READY ON DAY ONE at IOWA. She lost at IOWA–Hillary and her supporters really need to “get real” now.
Posted by: Victoria | March 25, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Hillary has NEVER and NOWHERE been under sniper fire.
Think of that when you reflect on her ‘mistake’.
So there’s no confusion here; these are the plain lies or sick fantasies of a woman who has in a top elite bubble for most of her adult life and who therefore has lost her plain of truth and reality.
That’s the last type of woman I ever would like see addressed as ‘Madame President’.
It’s simply dangerous to have such a pathological liar with an hysterical fantasy as Commmander in Chief.
I’d prefer Cheney over her.
Posted by: Grego | March 25, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
I agree with Sen. McGovern…it is easier for a black man to be elected president than a woman. This is especially true when the black man has won more states, more delegates, and more of the popular vote in the primary election.
Posted by: Camron Gorguinpour | March 25, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Well, yeah, right now it is easier to elect a black man than a woman when the woman is a soulless, pandering liar.
At least McGovern got one thing right…
Posted by: mg2 | March 25, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
For nearly 20 years, Hillary Clinton has been encased in the apparatus of political celebrity. Look at her schedule as first lady and ever since. Think of the thousands of staged events, the tens of thousands of times she has pretended to be delighted to see someone she doesn’t know, the hundreds of thousands times she has recited empty clichés and exhortatory banalities, the millions of photos she has posed for in which she is supposed to appear empathetic or tough, the billions of politically opportune half-truths that have bounced around her head.
No wonder the Clinton campaign feels impersonal. It’s like a machine for the production of politics. It plows ahead from event to event following its own iron logic. The only question is whether Clinton herself can step outside the apparatus long enough to turn it off and withdraw voluntarily or whether she will force the rest of her party to intervene and jam the gears.
Posted by: Truth | March 25, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
Mike in Texas,
So where’s the sniper fire, the ducking, the running etc. in that story then?
Would you seriously like to deny that Clinton is a liar (NAFTA, Bosnia) in this campaign?
Are you old and wise enough to vote?
Posted by: Greg | March 25, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
Interferon, you are so right!!! I just logged on and have a hard time believing this. It is pathological. What the heck is this phenomenon? Does a man who preaches conciliation, and change somehow breed this? If so, how?
Posted by: marie | March 25, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
Yes she can!
But she won’t.
He will.
Thank God.
Posted by: Jeanine | March 25, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
Where have all the Obama signs gone?
Long time passing….
Posted by: The 60s | March 26, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
Superdelegates,
How can it be that the Clintons were secret rascists and Joe McCarthy types for over the last quarter century and it took the extremely brilliant Obama campaign types like Axelrod to expose this. We have never heard these kinds of claims before the Obama election. Axelrod must be absolutely brilliant, even smarter than Karl Rove to be able to sniff this out. Or is he? Hmmmm, seems like an interesting coincidence o
me.
Please keep this in mind when planning your vote. Do we want the likes of Axelrod running this country?
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 26, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
MARIE
Certainly your list is impressive. It seems to me you forgot the recently elected president of Argentina……
But only mentioning the most positively
impressive on the intenational scene:…..
GOLDA MEIR, INDIRA GANDHI, MARGARET THATCHER….
All of them not making any use of their Gender to be elected, relying on their own merits (not on the of their husbands), honest, straight forward and
not indulging in demogorery, none of them a feminist Men were willing to vote for them, even more then women.
Unfortunately, Hillary does comply with very few if any of these Parameters.
And by the way: men are entitled to and shell refuse to vote for a FEMINIST WOMAN, as well as women to repeal a “MACHIST” MAN !!
TOM
Posted by: TOM WITTMANN | March 26, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
the posts i read here and otherwise sadden me so. nothing but hatred. this is what the great “uniter” has wrought. and he has purposely done so, because he knew that to gain his own objectives he would have to do this. and he cares about nothing and noone other than himself. and yes, i mean obama.
Posted by: so saddened | March 26, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am
Obama did not win one big state. He won states that will vote red in November.
Take away his caucus wins and red states and all he has is Illinois.
I think he should step down and let Hillary choose a smart candidate as her VP.
Posted by: Roger Miller | March 26, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am
Senator Obama, make sure you show lot of respect to President Hillary or President John McCain during State Of the Union address.
Be a good boy and go home to Rev. Wright’s pagan house.
Posted by: Roger Miller | March 26, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am
The press seems to pick on Hillary and yet give Obama a free pass. The nit-picking about the Bosnia trip is an example. It WAS A WAR ZONE. SHE FEARED FOR HER LIFE. Maybe she exagerated the danger in her imagination. In any case she WAS THERE. Obama lies CONSTANTLY and makes excuses for his racist preacher, and all the press ever says is,”WASN’T HIS SPEACH JUST WONDERFUL?” Can the Women of this country have a little EQUALITY for a change? The press should be ashamed of itself for the daily battering it gives the first woman candidate for president! What message are we sending our daughters? Women in the press should be trying to bring balanced reporting into the mix instead of just jumping on the “TRASH HILLARY” BANDWAGON!
Sue in L.A.
Posted by: Sue | March 26, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am
Yes, this campaign proved women have yet to achieve even a pretence of equality. That a man as inexperienced and under qualified, as Senator Obama could be doing as well as he appears to be doing in delegates, against the talent and skill Ms Clinton has proves it. But, of course, he is being brought to us all by the same media that brought GWB and the war.
Posted by: Athena | March 26, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am
Yes, I agree partially with Sen. George McGovern’s, D-SD statement. Mrs. Cliton would make a great president during times of peace. However in this turbulent moment of our history where we are fighting two wars , I dont think she can keep the country safe. Security trumps the economy in my opinion and it is a major factor we require from a President. Therefore, the country and for that matter the world is not ready for the leader of the free world to be a female. I am a woman and wont vote for Hillary because of the global political climate we are facing at this moment. Both Obama and McCain will provide the safety and protection as well as leadership we seek in a President druing these troubled times.
Posted by: Habon | March 26, 2008, 6:26 am 6:26 am
That is true
Plus the media has helped Obama every step of the way.
Not exploiting his ever so many lies. His misleading and manipulation of the media, people and others.
Whether it is because he is a man, because he is a Great speaker, or Because he Whines and cries for sympathy so often. Or because he is black.
It is not on His merit, honor or knowledge, His honestly, dedication to America or American people.
Mr Obama has put down every government official From the president down. pointing fingers, blaming people for everything wrong under the heavens.
Funny that him being a Senator himself, thinks he is free from any of the blame he is passing around.
Oh wait, his claim to fame, he voted present on most issues or bills. Not doing anything for the people but also so he could say I didn’t do anything, it is all their fault.
Of course he fails to realize, Negligence is worse than anything. Showing up for the job to just be paid is worse. Above all his lies and misleading the people is adding to his shame.
He is a poor excuse as a senator and have been, since he was elected for the job. So he is not ready or merits or deserves a more serious job for the government.
Posted by: seah | March 26, 2008, 6:38 am 6:38 am
The Hate monngers at work, cant help but flap their lips, or in this case their fingers on a keyboard. Hehe… Hillery thought she was entitled to the Presidency but when she sit back and let a black man beat her, all beats are off. I guess you could say, Are you sure Hillary that you are still a Democrat. You are a too far behind, a day late and a dollor short of any chance of winning this election, ao now you want to steal the election at the Convention. That will only cause a riot, if you think people will sit back ant let you do that, you better get ready for John McCain to be the next President
Posted by: Nate Franklin | March 26, 2008, 7:34 am 7:34 am
Many of those who call Obama and his pastor racist are them selves racist and evil.They fear of their own evil and judgement.When the truth is spoken there is always a reaction.How many white pastors condemned the 9/11 and even thought it is due americans sins?several.cleans e your heart from evil and deceit
Posted by: krist | March 26, 2008, 8:03 am 8:03 am
JR; Independent,
Here’s the proof how laughable you and so many other are: Hillary’s former pastor Dean Snyder vehemently defends Jeremiah Wright and calls him an ‘outstanding church leader’.
Last week, Dean Snyder, the senior minister at the Foundry United Methodist Church in Washington D.C. — which the Clintons famously attended while in the White House — released a little noticed statement offering a sympathetic defense of the totality of Wright’s work.
“The Reverend Jeremiah Wright is an outstanding church leader whom I have heard speak a number of times,” Snyder wrote. “He has served for decades as a profound voice for justice and inclusion in our society. To evaluate his dynamic ministry on the basis of two or three sound bites does a grave injustice to Dr. Wright, the members of his congregation, and the African-American church which has been the spiritual refuge of a people that has suffered from discrimination, disadvantage, and violence. Dr. Wright, a member of an integrated denomination, has been an agent of racial reconciliation while proclaiming perceptions and truths uncomfortable for some white people to hear. Those of us who are white Americans would do well to listen carefully to Dr. Wright rather than to use a few of his quotes to polarize.”
Posted by: justice | March 26, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
FOR ALL THOSE FOLKS WHO KEEP ASKING WHY HAS OBAMA SAT IN THE RACIST CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS; HAVE YOU LISTENDED TO PASTOR WRIGHTS|”S LAST 20 YEAR’S OF SERMONS BEFORE HE RETIRED??!!! I KNOW THE CLINTN’S DIDN’T!! I MEAN, HERE IS THIS “RABID RACE-BAITER” BEING INVITED TO THE WHITE HOUSE TO PRAY FOR POOR BILLY DURING HIS TIME OF NEED?? IF HE WAS SUCH A “LIGHTENING ROD” HOW DID HE GET INTO THE WHITE HOUSE TO PRAY FOR BILLY; I MEAN SOMEBODY MUST OF THOUGHT HE WAS RESPECTABLE ENOUGH TO MERIT THE WHITE HOUSE PHOTO OPPORTUNITY FOR BILLY-BOY!! FOR THOSE THAT OUR GENIUINELY CONCERNED; IT’S OKAY TO HAVE THE QUESTION, BUT PLEASE RESEARCH THE LAST 20 YEARS AND YOU WILL SEE THAT PASTOR WRIGHT HAS A LONG AND RESPECTED HISTORY; NOT THE HISTORY OF THE LUNATIC FRINGE YOU NOW WANT TO ASSIGN TO HIM FOR MAKING SEVERAL INCENDIARY REMARKS. BY THE WAY; HAVE YOU HEARD THE ENTIRE 9-11 SPEECH?? FOR THOSE AGAIN WHO ARE GENUINELY INTERESTED PLEASE LISTEN; ALTHOUGH I DISAGREE WITH HIM; IT IS INDEED PROVOCATIVE. ALTHOUGH I DON’T THINK THE AIDS – REMARK IS VALID; I DO ALSO KNOW THAT OUR GOVERNMENT HAD PREVIOUSLY EXPERIMENTED ON BLACK MEN W/ SYPHLISS INJECTIONS!! SOUNDS HARD TO BELIEVE; BUT THAT DID INDEED HAPPEN…
Posted by: AGBI | March 26, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
No George McGovern it is harder, almost impossible, to elect a far left liberal like Obama over a moderate like Clinton. George knows that better than anyone.
Posted by: geevill | March 26, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
McGovern’s view overlooks the massive turnout by women eager to elect the first female President.
And as to terrorists, etc., – last I looked, they are mostly male – time to send a woman against them! I don’t see our male “leaders” taking down al-Qaeda and bin Laden.
Posted by: Martin | March 26, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
“Last week, Dean Snyder, the senior minister at the Foundry United Methodist Church in Washington D.C. — which the Clintons famously attended while in the White House — released a little noticed statement offering a sympathetic defense of the totality of Wright’s work.”
And so a perfect example of why Senator Clinton stated that “Wright would not be my pastor.” She attends churches where the pastor is forgiving as pastors should be, welcoming, inclusive, reasonable, and sane; not a “crazy old uncle.”
A church anyone would be proud to attend.
Posted by: AHoban | March 26, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
I have talked to a lot of men mostly in their forties or fifties who said that they feel Clinton would be a better president but they voted for Obama because they ust can’t vote for a woman as president, so in some ways I think he’s right atleast for the older men.
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | March 26, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
Good Lord, all you female worshipers are making me sick. I’m a w/woman over during the really tough times for women. But, this line of support that WE MUST VOTE FOR HILLARY BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN is pathetic. I guess that is all you have left since Hilary’s fairy tale experience has been exposed for what it was…a lie.
I don’t care what body parts or skin color our next President has as long as that President is honest, has character, is a leader as well as a negotiator, and breathes life into the dying Democratic old-school party we currently have. I want a President not tied to the purse strings of huge money special interest groups and lobbists. I want a President who will act AND listen.
That pretty much eliminates your desperate, bitter, venom spewing, polarizing, burn Rome, lying female God now doesn’t it. We are talking about the President of the United States for God’s sake. Who wants that kind of a person as President? The answer is obvious to me.
I’m no theologian, but I accept the many many comments that Wright was an honored one…so much so Billy Boy invited him to the White House when he cried to all those ministers “I HAVE SINNED”. I can accept that Obama should not be crucified because of some soundbites of his old preacher who has retired from the church. I cannot accept that Richardson is Judas. I believe that religion should play no part in politics.
You want us to think Hillary just misspoke about Bosnia. She lied. Hillary DID SAY THOSE LIES, several times and as recently as March 17 with her little shamrock scarf draped around her neck. We have people who served, died and were injured in Bosnia…not for her and Chelsea’s photo op but for that 8 year old little girl who lived under sniper fire for real.
Now let’s elect a real Commander-In-Chief and start solving the very real and complex problems this nation has. It will require a president that will not act or lash out in anger, one with many skill sets, intellect, temperment, and one who will be a very strong negotiator.
Posted by: Female Voter | March 26, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Hypocrisy is the best word to describe the 20 years of Obama, known as “the best candidate to unite our country”, listening the words of hate from Mr Wright and contributing for his church. Our children don’t need these teachings; they need to learn words of tolerance and love – this is just my opinion. We are in different times, and we are exposed in our daily lives to live in a more populous and diversified country with different races and cultures(this is fact). Reverend word is such a big word and is not for everyone. “The most memorable and perhaps most inspiring speech given by one of our century’s greatest civil rights leaders and orators.”Reverend” is for Martin Luther King Jr., a man who really made a difference, and that is the kind words and preaching we need to spread “tolerance” and “respect” (my opinion). I am proud to be an American, where I walk in the streets, and I see all kind different people passing by “free” to express their believes and their religions. Mr. Wright has his right to express his believes; and I have mine to walk way and not to listen to him. I would like to see Mr Obama had done the same, once he decided he is going to be a “public representative” to all the people from this nation.
Posted by: Lucia | March 26, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
All of McGovern’s children and all of McGovern’s grandchildren are supporting Obama. ‘Nuff said.
Posted by: Tom J | March 26, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
I am not voting for a hypocrite/liar like BHO.
Posted by: Indus | March 26, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
I am not voting for a liar/hypocrite like Hillary Rodham Clinton. I want a woman president. But she in particular is not good for America. Watch the Hilllary Clinton:the movie and the Clinton Chronicles.
Posted by: Susan | March 26, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Phsychology has it that women generally think less of themselves in soceity. That is why the most people critical of a woman candidacy are women.
They do not have a high opinion about themselves.
The most hatred expressed in this bloggersphere are women. It’ almost like self hatred. Sad.
Posted by: SO1 | March 26, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Clinton-backer McGovern: Harder to Elect a Woman Than a Black Man
It is only harder on Clinton Because people know her and don’t want her and her scandalous husband in the white house she is a pathological liar. Thats why she can not win and will not win
Posted by: Lauenpow | March 26, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
It is not that a woman couldn’t win the presidency.It is that woman can not win the presidency. She has just too many problems. People know that she is a liar, win at any costs, she doesn’t play nicely with others, She doesn’t mind blowing her constituents by race baiting. How will she be accepted by world leaders? They all see what a lying person she is. Its over for her.
Posted by: Lauenpow | March 26, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
WestCoastMessinger:
No it took the arrogant Hillary Clinton
surrogates to show their racist nature!
Bill Clinton started the ball rolling after Obama cleaned her clock in
South Carolina when he first injected race into the campaign!
Then it was Ed Rendell in Pennsylvania,
Geraldine Ferraro and now
George McGovern!
Posted by: reaganfan | March 27, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
druggstohr:
Don’t wait for Obama!
I’ll say it! McGovern’s comments were
racist in nature!
Why is it that all of Clinton’s surrogates including her husband bring up Obama’s race instead of pointing out policy differences etc!
Everybody knows he’s black, so what!
He has never implied or said that people
should vote for him because of his race!
How about debating the issues instead of pointing out the obvious, that one candidate is black and the other is a woman!
Posted by: reaganfan | March 27, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
A woman not being able to handle terrorists? Show me one woman who is not sly, sneaky and conniving. When they get mad everyone gets out of the way. Plus they have this uncanny sixth sense. Call it woman’s intuition. I don’t know how they do it but they are always reading peoples minds.
Hillary is way past the hormonal influence so she will be a wise and cunning opponent. I think we are seeing it already. As Obama says-Hillary is a formidable oponent.
It time for a woman to lead. The “take over by force” hasn’t worked at all so far and a woman may be the touch that is needed for our country to get back it’s standing in the world.
Besides, she will not be going it alone like Bush is. She knows what she’s doing. Trust her. Why can’t we just get off the broken record of gender and race and look at things the way we should? Is it possible?
Posted by: Lou | March 27, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am
McGovern is a fat headed loser. He is jealous of the Clintons. He wishes he was as smart and as popular. He’s a one term president voted in by the first time youth voters of the Viet-Nam era. Who cares what he says.
McGovern go away. I thought you were passed on already. Seems you’ve come back from the dead.
McGovern is really voicing this as his own secret opinion. McGovern is from the old boys network in an era that was way before womens lib. Of course he would say this about a woman for president. He is inherently sexist by proxy. I wouldn’t expect him to respond in any other way. He is from the day when women were “personal property”. What do you expect him to say?
Posted by: Lou | March 27, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
There must be lots of uneducated people on this board. It refects in the sexism.
Women who are sexist are into self hatred. I have little patience for women who are self hating.
If you won’t vote for Hillary then you are sexist.
All you are left with are your pre-conceived notions that have nothing to do with Senator Clinton. That’s sad.
Posted by: Lou | March 27, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am
Choosing a President is a very important decision. The world has shown that women can and do lead… and do it effectively. There are many examples of this. The criteria used to pick a presidential canididate should be character, judgment, decision making, experience, honesty, trustworthiness & leadership. While I see some of these qualities in all three canididates, Sen. Clinton being a woman has nothing to do with it. Nor do I think men have “complete ownership” over these qualities. Sen. Clinton’s problem is she has poor character, she… to her own admission, has been untruthful, and most people according to a recent poll don’t see her as being trustworthly. If Condelica Rice was running as the republician presidential canididate, I would strongly support her canididacy. Sen. Clinton quite honestly has poor character and that’s the problem most have with her, not because she is a women
Posted by: Bruce | March 27, 2008, 7:59 am 7:59 am
George McGovern had two major problems which the American Voters correctly perceived: (1) He betrayed his own Vice Presidential Nominee when the going got rough (discovery of a history of treatment for mental illness with electroshock therapy), (2) He betrayed his Country and especially its soldiers when the going got rough.
McGovern is so far out of it that he thinks Hillary and Obama are fine people and candidates. Hillary is quite unwell mentally (Now AND in the past) as well as being a Communist; Obama is simply a Communist.
Posted by: bbjr | March 27, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm