Clinton Doesn’t Deny Campaign is Pushing Wright Story to Superdelegates
ABC News’ Eloise Harper Reports: Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign has strictly maintained a public position not to comment on Sen. Barack Obama’s relationship with Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Many times, questions have been answered with — "you will have to ask Senator Obama about that."
However at a Thursday press availability in Terra Haute, Indiana after a report surfaced that the Clinton campaign was pushing the Wright story to superdelegates arguing that the relationship hurt Obama’s electibility -– Clinton refused to deny that her campaign was pushing the story.
When asked, Clinton ignored the Wright portion of the question and said “well my campaign has been making the case that I am the most electable that I have said that for a year or more that I am the person best able to make the challenges that our country faces as commander in chief.”
When Clinton was then asked specifically if her campaign was pushing the Wright story –- she shrugged and took the next question, ignoring the reporter.
Watch the VIDEO HERE.
Later, Clinton spokesperson Doug Hattaway told ABC News:"She was and is unaware of anyone on the campaign pushing [the Wright] issue with superdelegates. She wants anyone who is talking to superdelegates to focus on our message, which is that she’s best prepared to be president and beat John McCain."
When asked if Clinton had asked her surrogates and those reaching out to superdelegates on her behalf to stay away from the Rev. Wright issue specifically, Hattaway told ABC News: "Since she is unaware of anyone doing that, I assume it hasn’t come up."
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Does Hillary think she can win with all her political baggage, and that of Bill’s? No doubt she does not want to release the names of the donors to the Clinton Library. Otherwise we would know why those pardons were granted. And if Obama is guilty by association, i.e. by belonging to Rev. Wright’s Church (which does not make him a Moslem, Hillary) then associating with Hsu who gave her $850,000 and those other crooks that were pardoned will also tell a good story about the Clintons. And then there is the Paul vs Clinton case pending in the Courts. Talk about guilt by association! Haha!!!
Posted by: kayayo | March 20, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
Yes Hillary. Anything you say Hillary. Perhaps this is a REAL case of the chickens coming home to roost. Your campaign is a disaster and you are a nasty, nasty person. The superdelegates should just put us all out of our misery and choose Obama already.
Posted by: Brenna | March 20, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Now HRC has less baggage than BHO. She has some experience, has plans, is knowledgeable about the issues than BHO and McCain.
In short she is electable than BHO and will be better GE candidate
Posted by: Kuttan | March 20, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Clinto is just throwing mud again to see what sticks.
Posted by: Thinking | March 20, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Shame on you Hillary! Shame on you! I thought you said that Democrats don´t act like Karl Rove
Posted by: david | March 20, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Ruthless.
Posted by: Tiffany | March 20, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
McCain now beating both of them in the polls. The Oba-mentum is gone.
Posted by: Jo | March 20, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Hillary is upset because all the experience she was talking about has been proven false by the papers that were released yesterday. she has to find a way to distract people from that the same way Bill Clinton was launching missiles to iraq and other places in order to distract people from Monica Lewinsky scandal…
Posted by: Truth | March 20, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Hillary asks for the vote to count and some guys go berserk. It is true what they say. The base of Obama support are young and ………….irrational in their words and actions. Like their patron Obama.
Posted by: lluluadorl | March 20, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
I support Hillary on this one. Actually, I think anyone who is conernec about the fate of dem’s chance in Nov. should do the same. Let the supperdelegates know the wright problem of Obama – this is close to fatal. Those clips will come out again in Nov when BO is the nominee, and more will come out. This is for sure…
Just imagine, an ad. showing:
wright’s hateful ranting, obama’s nodding (I am 100% sure by then there will be evidence show he was there when Wright said United States of White America), Obama’s not wearing the flag pin, Michelle’s “my first time”…. When you have every dots connected, it is scary…
I did a little more research online, there is a lot more about Obama comming out. Rezko is still going on…
The mainstream media is makinig Obama the King, who can help the voters make the case to the superdelegates.
Posted by: Amy | March 20, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Jo, McCain leads in Rasmussen polls, Obama/Clinton lead in Gallup polls…
at the same time Clinton leads Obama in Gallup, and Obama leads Clinton in Rasmussen…
pollsters are crap. Only SurveyUSA has been reliable at all.
As for this article, Hillary’s first lady papers in my opinion have doomed her in the general. Obama’s minsiter may be the hot topic right now, but in the long haul Hillary’s lack of experience after using it to differentiate herself is the most damning.
Posted by: Gion | March 20, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Time to go home Hillary, in reality the math is not on your side. Your campaign was a disater, poorly managed, your message was a soup, no real plans, HillaryCare for everybody even if you do not want it. Please, you are not more electable than Obama, we are sorry but you may think that the US presidency is only for White people like you and McCain.
Posted by: BKMC | March 20, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
HRC might win the battle, but will not win the war. It is strange how she harp on all the experience but it is coming out slowly that the things she claimed to work on to get pass were all lies.
Posted by: kb | March 20, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
While HRC slings mud Obama is going after the man he will face in November, in an intelligent manner.
Enough of Clinton already!
Posted by: Thinking | March 20, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
WHY IS HILLARY BEING NASTY! BECAUSE SHE IS PUSHING THE WRIGHT STORY. GOOD FOR HER. DO YOU PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT “WRIGHT” IN THE WHITE HOUSE FOR DINNER. THAT WHITE MAN AND AMERICA HATER. NO THANKS AND IF YOU DON’T THINK FOR A MINUTE THAT HE WON’T BE INVITED YOU ARE DILLUSIONAL.
THE IDEA THAT THE HATE MONGERING PREACHER AND GOD KNOWS WHO ELSE WILL BE INVITED TO THE WHITE HOUSE MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH.
Posted by: Donna | March 20, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
People’s votes should count. there is no dispute about it. Hillary brought all the mess. if she had followed the rules, it would have been easier to re-vote. she wants to be leader but she cannot follow policies? we are a nation of Laws and policies if you cannot abide by one that do not put it in writing. let us reason beyond the political ambitions and be real.
Posted by: Truth | March 20, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Why wouldn’t they push it the story and it’s impact on electability? It’s called politics – especially when the issue is a real show stopper for many voters.
Posted by: mhhunt | March 20, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Gion, with the economy the way it is, with Bush’s poll ratings, with the war going on, McCain should be 20-25 points behind both Hill & Obama. Just the fact that he’s even with them or ahead SPEAKS VOLUMES.
Say hello to President McCain and get use to it.
Posted by: Jo | March 20, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Posted by: Kuttan
You have got to be kidding me. She has baggage going all the way back to their Arkansa years….Have you forgotten that? Please, NO one has more baggage than she does, well except maybe Bill Clinton himself.
Posted by: Thomas | March 20, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Now the story of Obama rushing to say Imus should be fired will be the next Obama scandal. He said he’d NEVER have anyone racist like that on his team. BUT HE DID!! What a total PHONY.
I can’t believe all the people fooled by Obama. Really, you’re embarrassing yourselves, falling all over someone who is just as dirty and racist and corrupt as any of them.
Posted by: Jo | March 20, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
The kind of politics you are advocating made us fail in the world. The whole world is watching us playing games with each other. you think we can make a case to lead the world with such mentalities? Hillary is hijacking American democracy. the world does not start in America and will not end in here. look at the big picture and let us be honest, stop hiding the truth. Rev Wright was wrong as many other people in this country. we need to move on. if we go back to situation blaming what has been said and done, Obama can make a case. we built our nation out of Genocide.
Posted by: Truth | March 20, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Normal Americans that love their country and decided to give Obama a chance now want a revote. Had they known about Obama’s 20 years in a racist hate America church, they would have NEVER trusted him in the White House. Obama is lucky as hell the media are on his side, otherwise this would have come out a long time ago.
Posted by: Jo | March 20, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
“I am the most electable” – Hillary Clinton.
She is right, you know. She is the most electable… as the fabricateur-in-chief.
Posted by: bob | March 20, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Obama – Yes We Can……change the subject.
Won’t work. Audio & video are very very powerful things.
Posted by: Jo | March 20, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Anyone in Hillary’s shoes would do the same.
If Sen. Obama if fair, he will agree to have revotes in both Florida and Michigan. since he argues about the “rule,” Hillary can use the same rule to get superdelegates.
Republicans can’t wait to have Obama in the GE. I can imagine that they’ll make another case of Willie Horton.
Wake up and smell the Wright coffee, Democrats.
Posted by: Michelle Dole | March 20, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
If the party continues to cannibalize itself, the unthinkable will happen for a 3rd time, and John McCain will be President. Will your damn party get it’s priorties straight before we get sentenced to a 3rd BUSH term. If the Democractic party is determined to cut off their nose to spite their face, we are ALL screwed!!! (Is it too much to ask for a competent Pelosi or Reid, to counter and NOT cower to the will of Bush, EVERY single time???)
Posted by: cba | March 20, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Apalling.
Desperation calls for desperate measures. I guess this is the end of it for her campaign. When his numbers rebound (and they will post-”speech”)…the SDs will reject this final argument.
Apalling.
Posted by: rob | March 20, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Obama has lost his lead with independents is one of his big problem and the other is women are backing Hillary and we do not like men that cheat go around with the wrong gang. And we never forget who has hurt us . GO Hillary
Posted by: Bishop | March 20, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Jack, ABC admits they have HOURS & HOURS of this stuff, all saying the same type of stuff. Plus it’s a Black Liberation Theology church – and this is the exact type of thing they are ABOUT.
This “context” crap won’t work. We heard what we heard. But keep hoping.
Obama could NEVER win the general. Too bad for you guys there are plenty of America loving citizens in this country.
Posted by: Jo | March 20, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
You have the Hillary supporters who loathe Barack & his people who will stay home & not vote in the general, and you have the Barack supporters who would never vote for Hillary.
It’s a win-win for McCain. Thanks!
Posted by: Jo | March 20, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
It is obvious that Mrs Clinton’s last hope of attaining the nomination is to push anything she can against Obama with the super delegates. If the situation were reversed there wouldn’t be any situation because if Mrs Clinton had 160 pledge delegate lead and had won 30 out of 44 states and had mathematically eliminated Obama he would have been pushed out of the race by now.
Posted by: BJB | March 20, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Obama has said his white “rascist” grandma is a TYPICAL white person. This guy is doomed!
Posted by: lluluadorl | March 20, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
McCain just sits back and lets the democrats bring up tons of terrible baggage on each of their candidates. You’re almost making this too easy for him, but by all means, keep it up!
Posted by: Jo | March 20, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Jo McCains Campaign brought up Obama’s pastor. Was that wise seeing how some of his close religious buddies have made some comments about all catholics being whores? He isn’t just sitting back.
Posted by: BJB | March 20, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
The lack of respect in most postings surely does not reflect the positive call to move forward stated in Sen. Obama’s speech the other day. Like it or not Sen. Clinton is a former First Lady. You may not agree with her or her platform yet it’s mature to do so in a respectful manner.
Re: Sen. Clinton’s campaign utilizing the detracting effects of Sen Obama and his relationship w/Rev. Wright (thus concerning the sen’s being electable) — they are merely stating a very obvious issue (mostly JUDGEMENT) which concerns a great deal of Americans.
Rev. W’s words were more than a few seconds of a dismissive statement or two. Although the, “G.D. America” resonates the loudest with most, there’s a pattern of complete disrespect to most of America & women found within. The missing woman Natalee Holloway was somehow incorporated into one of his sermons as well as a highly “creative” analogy of fmr Pres. Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky and the Clintons’ association with the Black Community.
Being of Black and Apache Mescalero heritage, I found this to be utterly distasteful. Knowing Sen. Clinton’s solid record with the Children’s Defense Fund (before she even married her husband), this was such a disgraceful dismissal to all she achieved there only for the advancement of Sen. Obama’s candidacy to his church family.
Regarding Sen. Obama’s campaign’s own motto about his (superior) utilization of judgement — when one looks at a 20 year close relationship with someone such as Rev. Wright, it is only fair to come to one conclusion or another.
Whatever one decides or whomever they will support or not support in this primary and beyond, it is important to keep in mind we are still one nation, with a variety of subcultures which will only progress through mutual respect and open minds.
Posted by: lotsa bossa nova | March 20, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
All the more reason for the press to start uncovering her closet full of skeletons. How about her upcoming trial re: campaign fraud (a $17 million-dollar lawsuit against the Clintons). Let’s bring the story to the forefront. She’s amazing – now there is direct evidence from her White House papers that she supported Nafta – actually was a notable speaker at a few pro-nafta gatherings. But this info came out yesterday (way after Ohio and Texas vote). Careful what you wish for Hill – maybe Obama will ask Ohio for a revote…..would you be up for that????? Step down PLEASE!
Posted by: barbara miller | March 20, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Um, that is not pushing the Wright story. That is just stating the obvious ramifications of its impact in showing why she would be more electable.
Posted by: Red | March 20, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Who said that superdelegates can chnge the will of the people? Is that democracy? If people elect Obama, superdelegates must respect it. If people elect Hillary, superdelegates must respect it. So stop saying she is more electable, go to to the polls and elect her, do not ask for darkrooms to do it there, have some respect for yourself, do not ask for superdelegates decide who win, you votew have value, or just you sold it?
Posted by: Alberto | March 20, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Who said that superdelegates can chnge the will of the people? Is that democracy? If people elect Obama, superdelegates must respect it. If people elect Hillary, superdelegates must respect it. So stop saying she is more electable, go to to the polls and elect her, do not ask for darkrooms to do it there, have some respect for yourself, do not ask for superdelegates decide who win, you votew have value, or just you sold it?
Posted by: Alberto | March 20, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Here’s the fundamental self-serving falacy that the Hillary supporters now reveling in the Wright fallout fail to understand:
By the time of the general, this issue will be as buried as the hundred Clinton scandals out there.
So the question doesn’t come down to a “clean” candidate vs. a candidate with the Wright stigma.
It is a choice between a candidate that can be made to look like a racist through questionable associations with a made-up pastor image, or one that can be made to look like a murdering, drug trafficking, terrorist pardoning, land dealing crook who let Al-Quaeda run away and was responsible for 9/11.
Nobody in the Obama campaign will mention it, because they have the class to understand that democrats aren’t supposed to tear each other down.
But you’d better think about it for a bit before you decide on who would be the best candidate.
Posted by: memoryaid | March 20, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
this is precisely why the democrats don’t win anything unless the democrats let them. i laugh at them. here, they have a great candidate, a transcending politician and they are throwing him under the bus. where are you, howard dean? show some leadership. oh, i forgot, you are still screaming from 4 years ago. so you are going to roll out hillary clinton against john mccain. i keep saying he should have told gore to enter the race. now, look at the sorry demos – two flawed candidates.
if hillary wins, blacks are going to blame her for the racial madness. she can’t win w/o the black vote. does she think she can be a better bigot than the republicans??
Posted by: Isome Truman | March 20, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Hillary has no shame, and uses racial issues as a tactic.
Very sad and ugly.
But Hillary is a lost cause:
-Hillary stealing the nomination by coup makes her unelectable.
-Hillary dragging out her losing bid for the nomination to the detrement of the party makes her unelectable
-Hillary endorsing John McCain makes her unelectable
-Finally, losing the majority of states, delegates and popular vote make her unelectable
Posted by: JD | March 20, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
I already said “bring it on” last week. Playing nice in primary seasons is what causes the dems to select nominees who cant beat the reps in NOV… heck they dont get any practice and preparation… voters deserve to see who can take the heat and to have a fully vetted nominee
she has her share of baggage and political mistakes and her share of disputed experience… but she has more experience than him, less baggage than him, more accomplishments than him, a stronger base of support (reliable democratic voters) than him, and fewer political mistakes than him… he has never run against the RNC and she has 29 years experience beating them… Go Clinton!
Posted by: DCVoter | March 20, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
I won’t vote for either Sen. Clinton or Sen. Obama. However, I cannot blame or think less of Sen. Clinton for using this matter to support her claim that she is a better choice for the Democratic nomination. Sen. Obama chose to keep a close relationship with a man who is clearly consumed by hatred, bitterness, and loony conspiracy theories. The depth and length of this relationship brings his judgment into question, and that is a legitimate point to make in the primary and general election campaigns. Sen. Obama has not yet won his party’s nomination and he’s not ahead by much. Sen. Clinton has a right to continue her campaign.
Posted by: Jill1066 | March 20, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
I can’t imagine any Obama supporters voting for Hillary at this point. I see McCain being elected coming in with the most popular votes, the fed up that sit home on election day coming in second, the the Hillary voters coming in third. One of the biggest elements of the success of the Democrat Party this cycle has been the attraction of a “new kind of politics with integrity.” Clinton represents everything that these new inductees in the our Party hate about politics.
Posted by: xargaw | March 20, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
John Blair,
What about McCain’s endorsement by those 2 Pastors- one that said those nasty things about Catholics and their religion and the other that condemned gays, I think. (Their names escape me.) Do you think McCain can bring Wright up during the elections and Obama will not bring up these Pastors names? Do you see why this will not be a major point in the election?
Only Hillary is clinging to this Wright issue to win the nomination by hook or by crook. She is desperate now, and so are all her paid staff who are all over these boards. She failed to run a good campaign by not focusing beyond Feb 5, and she calls herself a better Manager than Obama? Now all she is left with is negative campaign, to the extent of even raising McCain above Obama, a fellow Democrat. What an abomination! And what do we know now about her ’35 years experience’ from her recently released schedules? Not much!
The press is on her side. Otherwise, why are they silent over Paul vs. Clintons? Why are they not pushing for the release of the Clinton Library donors’ list so that we can connect the dots between those pardoned and the donors? How much did Hsu really give her? We know she returned $850,000 after the guy was jailed. But how much did she receive? Can we start discussing Bill’s eight years after leaving the White House? Talk about baggage!
Posted by: kayayo | March 20, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Here is something that should be even scarier to Obama than Rev. Wright:
3 PA polls released in last 3 days – Hillary with HUGE lead
Hillary and Obama TIED in NC – a must win state for Obama
Hillary WAY AHEAD in WV
Hilalry ahead nationally in Gallup poll
New FOX/CBS polls – Obama sinking – Hillary performs better against McCain
You go girl – !! and Obama – you just go away and take McCain with you.
Posted by: ch | March 20, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
to all those who attack me and other posters personally, intelligent mature people can debate and state opinions without personal attacks… have a great day
Posted by: DCVoter | March 20, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Any US Senator would be expected to object loudly to sedition which Wright’s statements can be construed as. IN that sense, it is no surprise Wright high-tailed it out of the country. I question why Obama did not object? I also question why Obama participated in violations of IRS and consitutional principles with a church campaigning for a politican.
Posted by: DCVoter | March 20, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
“isome,”
Great observation. Yet, when Columbus, Lincoln, Washington & Jefferson are viewed in their proper historical context versus by today’s standards — unfortunately their actions were status quo in their time.
Yes, U.S. society has progressed from outright slavery and other forms of oppression. And, yes, there are still many other areas requiring improvement. However, judging individuals from the historical past by utilizing today’s standards is unfair and a bit of forced revisionism.
Posted by: lotsa bossa nova | March 20, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Statement by the leader of the NBPP in a TV interview regarding Obama’s rejection of their endorsement: “It’s just politics he doesnt mean that.” It seems they said the same thing Farrakhan said. It took a week or so for Obama to have them and the NOI and TUCC scrubbed from his website (al black separatists). Do you really think, (given the fact he continues to be a member of a church that promotes black separatism and honors Farrakhan who supports Hezbollah and Hamas), that he really does not agree? Black separatists are classified as hate groups just like the nazis, communists, and marxists. Anyone who associates with those who promote hate are influenced by them in some way. If McCain or Clinton were associated with a hate group, they would be out of the election quickly. Hitler’s support for his separatist views did not happen overnight but a people in a failing post war economy hoping for a better life were fooled into electing an unvetted candidate. The vetting has begun, let it continue.
Posted by: DCVoter | March 20, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
For those of you who think this Wright this will be used during the campaign proper, check this:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080320/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_obama_video
Only Hillary will use this negative stuff because she is desperate. McCain will not. I respect him for that.
Posted by: kayayo | March 20, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
DCVoter,
Interesting observation. Here’s from a book I’m currently reading that reflects the latter part of your post:
“The war, the Versailles treaty and the treatment of Germany since the war have made Germans turn to new leaders…Hitlerism is in a very real sense a gift of the Allies and the United States.” -James G. McDonald, July 10, 1933. (Human Smoke, N.Baker)
I’m not comparing Sen. Obama to A. Hitler yet, merely stating there’s a similarity in our current SITUATION (shaky economy, ongoing war, disconnected gov. etc). The desire for change can sometimes lead a disgruntled and frustrated society to rush toward something w/out researching an agenda or platform. History has shown this to be unwise.
Posted by: lotsa bossa nova | March 20, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
My concern is not just Rev. Wright’s comments, but how excited the whole congregation was to cheer him on and enthusiastically slapping hands in agreement with the inflammatory speech. If Senator Obama had been present at this service, would he have said anything, left the church, or rocked his body back and forth to the rhythm of the moment? Regardless, this is the culture in which he was raised and it’s an ugly one, regardless of any context. Many people, not forgetting native Americans, also have legitimate claims to discord with our government, but Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans and others continue to strive within the system for change. This is far more commendable than falling back on hate-speeches which can only foster more divisive hate.
Posted by: Gary | March 20, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
Doesn’t anyone have the confidence to believe that by NOVEMBER, 8 MONTHS that democrats won’t be affected by the sensational rev wright story after its been shoved down our throats already? Is there a new exodus of voters due to hit the shores sometime in October? If Dems are aligned, we don’t have to worry about Wright, the Repugs can just have their fun.
Posted by: Jonthan | March 20, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Obama lacks judgment by participating and supporting Rev. Wright’s congregation. He sat there and listens to those hateful messages for 20 years without opposition. He didn’t have enough common sense to just walk out and condemn that type of behavior. He lacks character by associating what his white grandmother told him in private to that of the public hateful messages of Rev. Wright as being equivalent. We don’t get to choose our Family but we get to choose our Pastors, churches and friends. Obama chose Rev. Wright and his congregation to be part of his life for the last 20 years. I have been a Democrat for over 30 years. If Obama were to get the nomination, I’ll be switching over to the Republican Party and voting for John McCain. I’ll never go back to the Democratic Party and the reason is simple, I love my country more then I love my party. Obama lacks judgment and character. Obama is not Wright for America.
Posted by: flex6100 | March 20, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Whew….what to do ?? Our Choices:
Hilary….many dislike. Obama….many distrust. John Mc….can’t lead a donkey to water.
Whew….what to do ??
Posted by: roger king | March 20, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
It does not matter who is pushing it. Its news and it matters.
Posted by: Al Sharpton | March 20, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
she will look to win any way she can and if it destroy’s the democratic party, bring about riots since by using the Wright issue makes it entirely about race and her continuing to try and make that a specific issue of electability. I think she is close to making herself politically radioactive. She could have a chance to challenge Obama in 4 years. If she continues down this path, she won’t get re-elected as a senator.
Posted by: Louis | March 20, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
GO HILLARY —-YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT TELLS THE TRUTH —LIKE IT IS—–OBAMA IS MR. RHETORIC—WHEN HIS LIPS MOVE THEY SAY —HI EVERYONE —I AM A RACIST AND A LIAR
Posted by: FL VOTE | March 20, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
The super delegates need to know how this has affected alot of peoples thinking about the general election. Let the primaries have their say but in the general election, the republicans will use this against the democrats so Clinton does not have to push the story, but the super delegates do need to remember this impact on the general election.
GO Hillary.
Posted by: lucci8 | March 20, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
After Hillary has destroyed Obama’s reputation and stolen the nomination, I encourage all of you disenfranchised voters to join the Libertarian party
Posted by: Mel Bailey | March 20, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
A cartoon in USA Today says it all:
“How important is the debate over Obama’s pastor?”
“Will it lower my mortgage?”
Pretty much says it all.
Posted by: Michael Rhein | March 20, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Rev Wright the gift that keeps on giving.
Church full of laughing, dancing and screaming Obama “friends” and fellow members the Sunday after 9/11.
Yeah. Obama is a patriot. Obama can get elected.
LMAO
Posted by: Jason | March 20, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
DCVoter, Hillary said she has 35 years of experience and you are saying 29, you reduced the lifetime experience by 6 long years. Be careful if not you will not have a post in her 2012 campaign. Honestly Hillary has not experience and no understanding of the world. She has been a loyal wife but that is all. OBAMA08
Posted by: BKMC | March 20, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
It’s Time!! It’s Time!! It’s Time!!
Mr. Obama Resign!! Mr. Obama Resign!!
Posted by: roger king | March 20, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
The fight is far from over… Let’s see who will be the ONE standing in the end…
You will be supprised day by day….
The hatred inside Dems will burn themselve…No doubts..
No more hope, no more change, only hatred for those immature ones…..
Posted by: Truth | March 20, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Amy, losing the the African American vote with everything else going against Hillary is far more fatal than the Wright fiasco.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
As Hillary would say, “We’re not pushing this story, AS FAR AS I KNOW.”
Posted by: James | March 20, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
It will be very unfair for HRC to go that far. Please pass this to her camp:
A few spews of crap…
John Hagee (McCain accepted his endorsement):
“All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that.”
Islam in general — those who live by the Koran have a scriptural mandate to kill Christians and Jews.
Liberal bloggers are uncovering other controversial past positons as well, including a fundraiser that included an appeal to “Make plans to come and go home with a slave.”
64,000,000 Americans belong to an “apostate church,” the “Great Whore” that is Roman Catholicism.
We must attack Iran to bring about the Second Coming.
Rod Parsley (McCain accepted his endorsement / Also regarded as John McCain’s “spiritual advisor”)
I cannot tell you how important it is that we understand the true nature of Islam, that we see it for what it really is. In fact, I will tell you this: I do not believe our country can truly fulfill its divine purpose until we understand our historical conflict with Islam. I know that this statement sounds extreme, but I do not shrink from its implications. The fact is that America was founded, in part, with the intention of seeing this false religion destroyed, and I believe September 11, 2001, was a generational call to arms that we can no longer ignore.
It was to defeat Islam, among other dreams, that Christopher Columbus sailed to the New World in 1492…Columbus dreamed of defeating the armies of Islam with the armies of Europe made mighty by the wealth of the New World. It was this dream that, in part, began America.
Pat Robertson:
“The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.”
“[Homosexuals] want to come into churches and disrupt church services and throw blood all around and try to give people AIDS and spit in the face of ministers.”
“I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that’s the way it is, period.”
“Presbyterians are the spirit of the Antichrist.”
“There is no such thing as separation of church and state in the Constitution. It is a lie of the Left and we are not going to take it anymore.”
“You know, I don’t know about this doctrine of assassination, but if [President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela] thinks we’re trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It’s a whole lot cheaper than starting a war. And I don’t think any oil shipments will stop. [...] We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don’t need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It’s a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.”
Jerry Falwell:
I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won’t have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!
Labor unions should study and read the Bible instead of asking for more money. When people get right with God, they are better workers.
AIDS is not just God’s punishment for homosexuals; it is God’s punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals.
Billy Graham is the chief servant of Satan in America.
I am such a strong admirer and supporter of George W. Bush that if he suggested eliminating the income tax or doubling it, I would vote yes on first blush.
I believe that global warming is a myth. And so, therefore, I have no conscience problems at all and I’m going to buy a Suburban next time.
There’s been a concerted effort to steal Christmas.
Rod Parsley:
“Two lesbians were having perverted sex, drinking alcohol, and snorting cocaine. But when I shouted, ‘Come out’ their glasses burst in their hands and they slithered out of the bed and got gloriously born again and filled with the Holy Ghost.”
John Hagee:
“Do you know the difference between a woman with PMS and a snarling Doberman pinscher? The answer is lipstick. Do you know the difference between a terrorist and a woman with PMS? You can negotiate with a terrorist.”
Posted by: Love | March 20, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Not this time Obama – not going to work changing the focus, deflection, mis-direction, sorry but we have all seen and heard it out of your own mouth. You did know about Wright and his views for some 20 years, you invited him to join your team. You did ask Rezko to assist with the buying of your home and tried to pass it off as oh just a bonehead mistake. You talk about invading Pakistan, a nation armed with nuclear weapons; meeting without preconditions with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, t; and Kim Jong II. You are less than honest Mr. Obama and very much not prepared to be President. So I would say that the Clinton campaign owes it to the country to make a case against Mr. Obama every chance the get!
Posted by: notthistimeobama | March 20, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Oh please. So if anyone even mentions Wright or race down the road then Clinton is playing dirty politics?
Fox news is playing these soundbites over and over and will find new one’s to play and most of us have seen enough to come to our own conclusions. Obama supporters will continue to support him but people will come to their own conclusions based on what they see or hear and it’s Wright’s words itself that will impact people – not anything
Clinton and her camp can say.
Posted by: alpaig | March 20, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
AA claimed Clinton as their first Black president themselve…
Now they forgot what they said and jumped to their American Idol… That’s the fact…
Posted by: Truth | March 20, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
What’s really really really sad about al of this is that Rev. Wright is so far from being a racist.
The Clintons have done a fantastic job of creating the spin they needed out of this to demonize Rev. Wright whom most people know little about and I just wonder how many of us understand how dangerous that really is.
Where was that spotlight when Wright, whose church was no less Afro-centric than it is now, led Trinity to be among the first in the nation to take the fight against South Africa’s former racist government to the streets?
Where was that spotlight when Wright took a small but devout membership and grew it to an estimated 8 ,000 members that include some of the most respected citizens in Chicago?
Where was that spotlight when Wright launched one of the earliest responses to the HIV/AIDS epidemic in the black community?
Where was the media?
As it is, the political warfare has thrust Wright, a man with a charismatic leadership style, a big-hearted nature, and grass-roots organizing skills, into an undeserved spotlight.
And most of us are content to judge him based on 3 minutes of a 45 minute sermon.
We were nowhere to be found.
I have not spoken to Wright, who will retire in June as the church’s senior pastor, but I imagine his heart is broken.
After all, he didn’t labor in the vineyard for 36 years among the mighty and the low to be demonized by white people who not only don’t have a grasp of the black church experience, but apparently don’t have a desire to understand why that experience is rife with emotions.
Despite all the hoopla, Wright is revered on the South Side of Chicago and is treated as a gifted theologian across the country.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Race issue is so obvious and no one needs to push or promote it.. The fact spoke itself already..
Everyone will re-think and take it into heart….
Posted by: Truth | March 20, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
The color Purple. Much as we may crave it, we do not live in a democracy. If we did then each person would have one vote in every issue, and that vote would count as much as any other. But we don’t. If you participated in a caucus, your vote counted about ten times as much as someone who voted in a primary. In the general election, what ultimately matters is the votes in the Electoral College, not the popular vote, as we re-learned so painfully in 2000. So the question facing the uncommitted “super-delegates” is how do we run the best campaign with the highest probability of defeating John McCain in November, and win the majority of Electoral College votes. Cuurently Clinton has 267 electoral votes and Obama has 202 electoral votes using the same method as used in the GE. Assume that Hillary wins PA, WV, Indiana
and Obama gets SD, NC , OR , MT , Clinton will have 308 electoral votes and Obama will have 230 Electoral votes. You know who should be on top of the DREAM ticket.
Posted by: larry996 | March 20, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
The media has been very bias against Hillary the negative comments never ending about her campaign. What is really going on with all the Media about trying to find out the truth?
If the media had looked into Obama’s life Americans would have known about his Reverend’s bias and Obama’s 20 years of support. Obama has gotten a free ride in media even now trying to pull out the sympathy card for his bad judgment.
Obama cannot have it both ways. Support a Ministry of the church for 20 years, who advocates changes through hate; and say He is for bringing people together to make positive changes. This is very disappointing.
If Obama, running for President, is to lead above the fray having a minister that blatantly curses continuously in his messages, is not the positive image or shows very good judgment that America needs to represent the country.
Posted by: db | March 20, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
She is a boldfaced LIAR, just like her husband. She now says she was always against NAFTA well according to the White House records she has always been a fervent supporter and pusher of NAFTA. Now am I going to indirectly condem Obama because his pastor is a jerk or condem Clinton because she is directly lying about a fact that has gained her support with those all important blue collar workers who thinks she is on their side when in fact she’s helped take their jobs all along. http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080320/cm_thenation/1300860_1
Posted by: Justeace | March 20, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
interesting that ABCNews and other media outlets aren’t even thinking of touching the Clinton’s or McCain’s bagage in the same way they are doing so to Obama.
Posted by: Kyle | March 20, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
“Purple” states are those where, for example, the Presidential vote in 2004 was separated by about 6% or less. Those include Ohio, Florida, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Nevada, and New Mexico which Hillary either already won or is leading. These are the states that the Democratic Party must win in November. It is critically important that the Democratic candidate be the one who draws most strongly in those key states. To believe that the candidate who did not attract a majority of Democratic voters in the primaries there, will somehow get not only most of those Democratic voters but also draw similar voters from outside the Democratic Party is naïve and dangerous if your ultimate goal is to not have a Republican in the White House this time next year. Upto now Hillary has 2064 delegates and Obama has 1394 delegates using the same method that is used in the General election. Assuming that Hillary wins PA, WV,Indiana and PR & Guam and Obama gets SD, NC , OR , MT , she will have 2439 delegates and Obama will have 1606 delegates. If Democrats ignore this and give top of the ticket to Obama, 25% of the Democrats will vote for Republicans and we can lose both the House & the Senate. This is exactly what happened when Anti War hero McGovern was nominated and we lost all states except Mass.
Posted by: larry996 | March 20, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
WASHINGTON (CNN) – Hillary Clinton has reclaimed the lead from Barack Obama in the Democratic presidential race for the first time since early February, a new national poll out Thursday suggests.
NOBAMA 08
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Truth, African Americans have never liked Hillary Clinton. The African American community embraced Bill Clinton and if Bill were the candidate I doubt Obama would have a chance. However, after this experience I doubt even Bill’s influence can bring the African American community to vote for Hillary.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Obama was caught several times by lying just in a few weeks…
He is a facturally true liar…
Posted by: Truth | March 20, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
“Purple” states are those where, for example, the Presidential vote in 2004 was separated by about 6% or less. Those include Ohio, Florida, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Nevada, and New Mexico which Hillary either already won or is leading. These are the states that the Democratic Party must win in November. It is critically important that the Democratic candidate be the one who draws most strongly in those key states. To believe that the candidate who did not attract a majority of Democratic voters in the primaries there, will somehow get not only most of those Democratic voters but also draw similar voters from outside the Democratic Party is naïve and dangerous if your ultimate goal is to not have a Republican in the White House this time next year. Upto now Hillary has 2064 delegates and Obama has 1394 delegates using the same method that is used in the General election. Assuming that Hillary wins PA, WV,Indiana and PR & Guam and Obama gets SD, NC , OR , MT , she will have 2439 delegates and Obama will have 1606 delegates. If Democrats ignore this and give top of the ticket to Obama, 25% of the Democrats will vote for Republicans and we can lose both the House & the Senate. This is exactly what happened when Anti War hero McGovern was nominated and we lost all states except Mass.
Posted by: larry996 | March 20, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Madam Hilary is a typical scorpion, who has transcended her libido in the sack of power.
She does not look sympathetic at all.
Posted by: shantam prem | March 20, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
THIS TYPICAL WHITE WOMAN SAY I SURE AS HECK HOPE SHE IS, CAUSE IF SHE ISN’T SHE IS NUTS IF THE TABLES WAS TURNED HE WOULD IN HEART BEAT, BUT JUST LIKE A TYPICAL BLACK MAN IS GOING TO CRY, RACIST,,,,,,
Posted by: pespiloverforever | March 20, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Truth: I take it your extemely jealous of the Clinton’s because you appear to have a lot of anger towards them. They earned what they accomplished in live and they became rich doing it. Good for them. But people that dislike them are the ones that basically don’t have anything or they want more and can’t get it. I don’t read about the Clinton’s belonging to a racist church or hating blacks. If you are an Obama supporter evidently you don’t care that his pastor is anti-american or hates whites.No candidate that I am aware of ever went to a church like that running for the presidency. Wake up and get a grip on things.
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Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 20, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Obama is “your typical black person”
Michellw is “your typical black person”
Poor white grandma!
Posted by: martin | March 20, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
If AA doesn’t like Clintons, why are there still so many super-black delegates supporting Hillary, even though some ones changed their mind later for AA Idol without any logic reasons…
Posted by: Truth | March 20, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Sorry media folks, this is one thing you won’t get away with blaming on Clinton. Good try, though.
Posted by: free to speak | March 20, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
By the way, you all do realize that no matter what happens over the next few months Obama will have more pledged delegates than Hillary. That’s just the math…then the question becomes what do the super delegates do with that dilemma?
Might I suggest the obvious? Hillary and her Karl Rove tactics have killed the Democrats chances of regaining the White House. Plain and simple. Hillary cannot beat McCain as it stands today and that’s before the fallout of a superdelegate decision to endorse her as the nominee. That’s assuming they would be naive enough to do such a thing.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
The SUPERDELEGATES are not stupid, nobody has to push this story. They know that come fall election, if they have endorsed OBAMA and they are running for office, they will be subjected to clips of JEREMIAH WRIGHT with a voiceover saying how once it was revealed that OBAMA has WRIGHT on his campaign, and this candidate endorsed OBAMA, the candidate will have their own JUDGEMENT called into question. At that point its all over except the cryin’. OBAMA is NOT ELECTABLE, no doubt.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 20, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
The Clinton campaign knows very well that they don’t have to push the Wright story. The right-wing noise machine is fully revved up now and will keep beating this dead horse from now to November. It is what they do, like it’s their reason for existance. “MUST. LIE. ABOUT. DEMOCRATS!!!”
Posted by: jock59801 | March 20, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
The Rev. Wright issue will be the reason many psuedo Obama backers will cite when asked why they no longer back the “Oracle of Illinois”.Barack, you were so correct…of course, words mean something.
Posted by: Manuel | March 20, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
The Rev. Wright issue will be the reason many psuedo Obama backers will cite when asked why they no longer back the “Oracle of Illinois”.Barack, you were so correct…of course, words mean something.
Posted by: Manuel | March 20, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
It labeling is granny as typical white woman is not racist remark I will kiss you fat butt, and someone tell just what is a typical white is ,,,,,,,,
Posted by: ATYPICALWHITEWOMAN | March 20, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
Why don’t they show proof of why they think her campaign is pushing this? To me it’s the media putting ideas and words into voters heads that may or may not be true. Even if it is I am glad this stuff about Obama is finally coming out.
Posted by: J | March 20, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
More… can some one tell pubilc what Obams has done to black community besides donating his money to his church? What has he done to benefit AA? Why will AA support him??
Posted by: Truth | March 20, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Truth, I dont know if you noticed but Hillary had the most powerful African American delegates in the state of GA and lost that state by a landslide. Have you not noticed the exit polls indicating Obama carrying the African American vote by 85-90%?
Those superdelegates dont influence the African American community. They are just politicians returning a favor to the Clintons.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
What a cheap shot ABC-Clinton has not waded into the fray of this ugly Wright fiasco. You just can’t handle 10 minutes without controversy, so you make it up instead. Why don’t you try reporting the news instead of manipulating it.
Posted by: greenfun | March 20, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Truth scroll up.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Truth, Obama has not told a single lie. You folks are just selective in your reporting or recording of the commentary.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
How Can Obama beat McCain in Nov?? How can he?? By his false hope, his empty change, his zero experience, his balck/white skin, his integrity with all the lies being caught??
Posted by: Truth | March 20, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
interesting that ABCNews and other media outlets aren’t even thinking of touching the Clinton’s or McCain’s bagage in the same way they are doing so to Obama.
Posted by: Kyle ====================
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That is because at every turn they are tearing Clinton to pieces, there’s nothing left to dig into. Quit crying, its about time they looked into Obama’s past.
Posted by: J | March 20, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Has anyone ever asked why Obama didn’t support the war? Could it be that the likes of Farakkan and Wright influenced him. Maybe Farrakhan. I hear he is supporting terrorists. Obama supporters will one day realize that a patriotic President is much more important than a charismatic one. I cannot belive that this guy (Obama) is affiliated with so many shady characters who hate America, and the American people still support him. That is beyond my undersanding. I heard somewhere on radio (Buffalo) that Obama even tried to explain in one of his famous speeches why he understands the formation and importance of Hamas and Hezzbolah. (not sure where the speech took place)I am sure not in front of the adoring American supporters.
Posted by: Liz-Ontario,Canada | March 20, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
I did not blame him for the comments his pastor said ,but i did however hold him accountable for staying and letting hate been drilled into the minds of those children,,,,,,but I do blame him for the hate in his words with the A Typical White Woman Remark,
Posted by: ATYPICALWHITEWOMAN | March 20, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Q. Is Hillary pushing the Wright story?
A. Does a bear defecate in the woods?
Posted by: Susan E. | March 20, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Gosh, I would hope that her campaign is pressing the super delegates on this issue. Somehow, I don’t think it will be as heavy-handed as what the Obama campaign did to John Lewis and other super delegates when they pressured them to switch their support – does anyone remember the look on Mr. Lewis’ face, how beaten he sounded?
If the goal of the democrats is to win in November, I’d hope that Clinton can make her case that she’s the most electable. Democrats can’t win with only african americans and the liberal wing of the party. Let’s hope the super delegates listen.
Posted by: s. valenti | March 20, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
BTW, if you think your AA leaders or elites are the ones just returning someone’s favor, it will be the shame on your AA leaders…
Here is another AA leader or pre-mature USA leader called Obama, whose favor will he return??
Posted by: Truth | March 20, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Truth, Obama has not told a single lie. You folks are just selective in your reporting or recording of the commentary.
Posted by: Syl ——————
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How about last week he wasn’t there for the sermons. This week in his speech he was. Second one Rezko contributed 150,000 dollars a few months later it turns out to be 250,000 dollars. Those are lies to me.
Posted by: J | March 20, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
“The Obama people are blocking it in the Legislature,” the Democratic source tells CNN. The source also says the group has repeatedly and unsuccessfully reached out to the campaign for input and cooperation.
The source says that Obama’s campaign has been asked to craft an alternative or to meet with the Clinton campaign to work out an acceptable compromise, but that those requests have been met with silence.
Why won’t Obama let the people vote?
NOBAMA 08
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
One question for all you self-righteous pains, who runs America?
Posted by: get real | March 20, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
All of you ANTI-OBAMA HATERS SUCK OFF!!
Posted by: revisited08 | March 20, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Thinking: If Hillary is slinging mud I hope it doesn’t miss Obama. Because he’s full of mud. He couldn’t run a cleaning plant let alone this country. We need someon that has intelligence, capabilities and foreign policy and that let’s him out. We also need someone that does not have close ties to a racist pastor unless they are a racist themselves in sheeps clothing. I heard the comment Obama made about his white grandmother calling her a typical white person. He is not my choice for the presidency and I am glad people are starting to see him as he really is.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 20, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Thinking: If Hillary is slinging mud I hope it doesn’t miss Obama. Because he’s full of mud. He couldn’t run a cleaning plant let alone this country. We need someon that has intelligence, capabilities and foreign policy and that let’s him out. We also need someone that does not have close ties to a racist pastor unless they are a racist themselves in sheeps clothing. I heard the comment Obama made about his white grandmother calling her a typical white person. He is not my choice for the presidency and I am glad people are starting to see him as he really is.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 20, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Ross Douthat and Ezra Klein are arguing about whether Jeremiah Wright’s statements are comparable to those of Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and John Hagee’s. To argue that they’re not comparable, Douthat — like most people commenting on this raging controversy — conflates two entirely separate analytical issues:
(1) Given their close and long-standing personal relationship, does Wright merit more scrutiny vis-a-vis Obama than white, radical evangelical ministers merit vis-a-vis Republican politicians? and,
(2) Are the statements of white evangelical ministers subjected to the same standards of judgment as those being applied to Wright’s statements?
Even if the answer to (1) is “yes,” that doesn’t change the fact that the answer to (2) is a resounding “no.”
The statement of Wright’s which seems to be causing the most upset — and it’s one of two singled out by Douthat — is his suggestion that there is a causal link between (a) America’s constant bombings of and other interference with Middle Eastern countries and (b) the willingness of some Middle Eastern fanatics to attack the U.S. Ever since the 9/11 attacks, we’ve been told that positing any such causal connection is a sign of vicious anti-Americanism and that all decent people find such questions despicable. This week we learned that no respectable person would subject his children to a pastor who espouses such hateful ideas.
But the idea that America deserves terrorist attacks and other horrendous disasters has long been a frequently expressed view among the faction of white evangelical ministers to whom the Republican Party is most inextricably linked. Neither Jerry Falwell nor Pat Robertson ever retracted or denounced their view that America provoked the 9/11 attacks by doing things to anger God. John Hagee continues to believe that the City of New Orleans got what it deserved when Katrina drowned its residents and devastated the lives of thousands of Americans. And James Inhofe — who happens to still be a Republican U.S. Senator — blamed America for the 9/11 attacks by arguing in a 2002 Senate floor speech that “the spiritual door was opened for an attack against the United States of America” because we pressured Israel to give away parts of the West Bank.
The phrases “anti-American” and “America-haters” are among the most barren and manipulative in our entire political lexicon, but whatever they happen to mean on any given day, they easily encompass people who believe that the U.S. deserved the 9/11 attacks, devastating hurricanes and the like. Yet when are people like Falwell, Robertson, Hagee, Inhofe and other white Christian radicals ever described as anti-American or America-hating extremists? Never — because white Christian evangelicals who tie themselves to the political Right are intrinsically patriotic. Does Douthat believe that those individuals are anti-American radicals and that people who allow their children to belong to their churches are exercising grave errors of judgment?
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
J, there you Clinton fans go mis-stating the facts just like your candidate. What he said last week was that he wasn’t present when the sermons in question were delivered. What he said in his speech is that he has heard Rev. Wright make controversial statements before. The point is…he never heard the most inflammatory statements as pushed to the media by the Clinton campaign but admitted that he has heard Rev Wright make some strong or controversial comments before.
Did you miss that part?
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
The issue shouldn’t be whether Clinton is pushing the Wright story. The issue is why is Obama trying to take the high road? He cannot distance himself from 20 years of association with a church and pastor who promote racism (have we forgoteen this church honored Farrakkan – did Obama even mention it). Obama should drop out of the race. He has no place as a representative of America (his wife has only been proud once to be an American?). He has the audacity to continue!
Posted by: David | March 20, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
she will look to win any way she can and if it destroy’s the democratic party, bring about riots since by using the Wright issue makes it entirely about race and her continuing to try and make that a specific issue of electability.__________So in your mind it is ok for Obama to get on tv, and spew all that white people need to feel guilty for the poor black man,and dig up old wounds and hate, to the black people , did you happen to catch the Black Panther leader on tv last night, he said that Obama speech was to let them know that he was going to finish what was started in the 60’70 with the black power movement, Now white people just heard words, black people they heard the meaning, Any time she is trying to start a riot she would have to get behind Obama, go and read some of the speeches he has given to the all black communities, they are all about the injustice that has been done to the black man by the whites man, how their homes was burned, how their they had to walks miles to schools how they lost their jobs for standing up to the injustice at the hands of the white man,and he say he want to be about unity, that is no way to do it,,,,,,,,
Posted by: ATYPICALWHITEWOMAN | March 20, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Obama needs to Man-up and bow out at this point,…He will be able to have a “comein to the lord” moment down the road in 8 years and maybe he can run again. If of course he is able to convince the American people that his judgement is better and that he has learned from his horrible mistakes.
NOBAMA 08
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Why doesn’t anyone ask Obama why he added Wright to his campaign AFTER he knew his comments were controversial? Obama knew BEFORE he declared his candidacy. And according to Wright, Obama knew he needed to distance himself from Wright. That was back in FEBRURARY 2007.
So why would Obama add Wright to his campaign??
Obama church published Hamas terror manifesto:
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59456
Here’s a copy of the church bulletin:
http://www.bizzyblog.com/wp-images/TUCChamasColumn072207.jpg
Posted by: Susan Bertalotto | March 20, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
BTW, Obama has been also honest to admit himself already even in his own words…
That is the fact…
Posted by: Truth | March 20, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
By the way, the facts show he wasnt even at church on the Sunday that either of those sermons were delivered but I’m sure you overlooked that fact in all your “research”.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Now that I’ve had a chance to read some of the ugly comments people have made about Hillary, I need to add something. It’s really amazing the adjectives that people who don’t support her use – many gender based. People, when you’re running for the presidency, you’re expected to have sharp elbows, a tough skin, resiliency, an ability to fight, – all this in addition to judgement and experience and a strong command of the issues. This race should not be a rehash of her husband’s personal behavior or a pouring over of date books from 10 years ago. I’m appalled that Brian Williams recounted where Clinton was while her husband was cheating on her. What makes that relevant? Women are taking note of the extreme bias that continues against Clinton. Can the Democratic Party afford to turn off large numbers of women and win November’s election?
Posted by: s. valenti | March 20, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
“The Obama people are blocking it in the Legislature,” the Democratic source tells CNN. The source also says the group has repeatedly and unsuccessfully reached out to the campaign for input and cooperation.
The source says that Obama’s campaign has been asked to craft an alternative or to meet with the Clinton campaign to work out an acceptable compromise, but that those requests have been met with silence.
LET THE PEOPLE VOTE OBAMA!!
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
This is not news to African Americans, Black Churches preach the same way because we have been through the struggle and the fire, and all of you white critics have not been through the fire, you may have had a personal horrific event in which you have called on GOD, but you all have not as a race gone through the fire so really you cannot call any of them racist we are just a product of what America made us and now that you have to deal with us you hate it, oh well deal with it! I LOVE BEING BLACK, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT FAKE, WE ARE REAL!
Posted by: revisited08 | March 20, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
From what I have heard and seen on tv,Wright goes beyond being a racist. His hate for America is so obvious, it screams.You could feel it through the tv screen.
Posted by: Liz-Ontario,Canada | March 20, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
By the way, the facts show he wasnt even at church on the Sunday that either of those sermons were delivered but I’m sure you overlooked that fact in all your “research”.
Posted by: Syl ————————
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Read his speech. I didn’t overlook anything.
Posted by: J | March 20, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Write anything about Hillary and the obamamaniacs have real tizzies. They are starting to get comical. Just mention the word “Hillary” and they begin dripping blood.
Wow – hard to control this type of weak obama followers.
Obama 2008 = NO WE CAN’T = obamamaniac meltdown.
Posted by: Lou | March 20, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
WOW – now i really don’t like her. I have to admit. I can’t see how I would vote for her in the general election. She is just as filthy and disgusting as the republicans in so many ways.
Maybe Republicans hate her so much is 50% because they are so much a like and 50% because she comes off as an annoying scum bag who will say and do anything to win except run a good campaign…
OH – and feels that she is promised/due/next in line/expected to be the next POTUS
Posted by: RB | March 20, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Hey, everyone–Don’t be Hating!
One of the most amazing things about Racism is its way of drawing out and inflaming hatred, creating even more hatred, until it is hatred for hatred’s sake! Everyone, take a look at this blog, from top to bottom… only Russell has the right idea!
Too bad, because it seems Obama is ahead of his time… Mark my words, the important thing about Obama’s speech on Racism is the way he proposes advancing the discussion away from our old set ways, advancing to the point that we slow down our hatred enough to see that both sides LOSE in the stalemate that results from the stand-off of MUTUAL HATRED.
The importance of Obama’s words is in their reality. It DOES NOT MATTER if Obama wins or loses this election, because his words will live on far longer than any of the hate shown here today. It does not matter if the voters of this country choose to reject him for the company he keeps, even though I believe they should choose him for the courage, elegance and spirituality in the way he proposes to try and bring all of you together.
Win or lose, it is time we remove the restriction of knee-jerk hatred every time we hear something we don’t like from somebody who doesn’t look like us. I believe that’s what Obama is saying; do we have the courage to hear him?
Posted by: Mark Williams | March 20, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
To the Obamanites: I think it would not matter what other secrets or garbage will be revealed about Obama you would still be pro-Obama. I bet you even if a video surfaces showing Barack and Michelle Obama clapping and cheering Wright while he spews his hateful words against USA and White America you will just put your BLINDERS on…and say…WHAAT..WHAAT…I DON’T SEE THEM…..THAT’S NOT THEM…lol
Posted by: BobPatz | March 20, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
John G,..You are the man.
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Susan, because he obviously hadn’t heard the most inflammatory comments. He heard some “controversial” comments. Do you honestly believe he would have invited Rev. Wright to a political role had he heard all of those remarks? That would’ve been political suicide in a campaign against the dirt slinging Clintons.
Not only that….Rev. Wright is a brilliant man. Regardless of what the media has led you to beleive the man is not a racist. Not even close.
He hates racism himself too much to ever support it himself. This is the same man that challenged the church to include homosexuals and same sex marriage but I’m sure the media didn’t tell you that…
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Wright isn’t a story, he is real. And, Obama considers him his mentor.
HILLARY our only choice.
Posted by: maria | March 20, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Hillary Clinton is disgusting and a Monster. Every time she is in a weak position, she changes her mind,++++++++++Now that is funny ,like Mr I alway tell the truth and stand by my word has, lets see, I didn’t vote on the war,{well that was true, YOU HAD TO BE THERE FIRST] then I didn’t do NAFTA, oh wait I did, then I was not there, never heard it, Wait I was there , I have heard it, and I don’t have any papers , oh wait I do have,,then Granny was a racist, no wait she was A Typical White Woman ,,,,,,,,,,,and the list goes on,,,,,
Posted by: ATYPICALWHITEWOMAN | March 20, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Clinton doesnt have to push it to the super delegates,My states super delegetes that went for Obama have gotten a very long detailed email and letter from me. In my letter I put a copy of his pastors ranting about this country and a few exerpts of James Cone and asked them, what were you thinking
Posted by: girlinvt | March 20, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Whoever thinks Ohama didn’t know his pastor’s hatred comments for 20yrs is underestimating Obama’s intelligence and your own intelligence…
Posted by: Truth | March 20, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Bob Patz, advantage over you. We actually KNOW Senator Obama….you are merely reading about Senator Clinton.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Obama is Finished…you can like him or you can dislike him. You can trust him or you can distrust him. Obama is Finished!!
Posted by: roger king | March 20, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Truth…your probem is in thinking Rev. Wright is a racist.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
According to Obama we are all just “typical white people” … he is a racist! … and you buffoon liberals are going to elect McCain!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jackson | March 20, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
The math says Obama will be the nominee..like it or not.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Thanks to the Clinton campaign, and their scorched-earth politics against Obama, and their quasi-campaigning for McCain, the writing on the wall is at least 4 more years of destructive Republicanism in the White House. And with John McSame McCain and his 100 year war and his bomb-bomb-bomb, bomb-bomb Iran. How tragic.
Posted by: Frank | March 20, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Jackson seems to me YOU are the racist.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
John G,
True spoken words. Racism is everywhere in the world. America is not immune to it, however it’s a great country to live in. Canada is right up there with America, though :-)
Posted by: Liz-Ontario,Canada | March 20, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
The show put out by you Obama supporters is really ugly. Your hatred is so intense it’s despicable. If she is pushing Wright story to super delegates, it’s absolutely a legitimate thing to do. If without Wright story she should always make her case with superdelegates. Now, without Wright, suddenly she is not allowed to? Laughable. She has a stronger case, so she should push harder.
You Obama supporter would you please grow up? Don’t act like spoiled teens. If you don’t get your way, you whine, curse, and attack. Really impressive followers of a “uniter”.
Posted by: Andy | March 20, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
Syl,
I’m not saying that Obama knew about the anti-America remarks, but why would he dis-invite Wright to candidacy speech and then give him a place on the campaign??
The “controversial” remarks that Obama knew/heard about before Feb 2007 had to be strong enough for him to dis-invite Wright.
Posted by: Susan Bertalotto | March 20, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
The show put out by you Obama supporters is really ugly. Your hatred is so intense it’s despicable. If she is pushing Wright story to super delegates, it’s absolutely a legitimate thing to do. If without Wright story she should always make her case with superdelegates. Now, without Wright, suddenly she is not allowed to? Laughable. She has a stronger case, so she should push harder.
You Obama supporter would you please grow up? Don’t act like spoiled teens. If you don’t get your way, you whine, curse, and attack. Really impressive followers of a “uniter”.
Posted by: Andy | March 20, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
Believe it…Obama could have had all the numbers in the world 2 weeks ago, but our Democratic party will be forced to find any possible way to take those numbers away from him. They will call it “New Math”. Obama is Finished.
Posted by: roger king | March 20, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Frank, that is the sad reality. At this point, it’s pretty much a done deal. The dirty underhanded politics of the Clintons and their blind followship will result in a McCain presidency.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Truth…your probem is in thinking Rev. Wright is a racist.
Posted by: Syl —————–
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What would call him then? If you agree with this type of stuff, God help this country.
Posted by: J | March 20, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
The math does say that Obama will win, especially if he insists on not allowing people to Vote:
“The Obama people are blocking it in the Legislature,” the Democratic source tells CNN. The source also says the group has repeatedly and unsuccessfully reached out to the campaign for input and cooperation.
The source says that Obama’s campaign has been asked to craft an alternative or to meet with the Clinton campaign to work out an acceptable compromise, but that those requests have been met with silence.
LET THE PEOPLE VOTE OBAMA!!
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Roger, I doubt that will happen the Democrats can’t afford to do something as insanely divisive.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Well, somebody certainly won’t let this story die, and it would be the most advantageous thing the Clinton camp has had in ages to bat Obama around with, since they have nothing more substanative. I mean the man (Obama) has already explained himself! He has stated that he does not agree with Reverend Wright’s incendiary remarks. Barrack Obama did not make these statements. That would be like you blaming me for all the ridicules things that President Bush has said over the past eight years, merely because I may have voted for him in the first term. Ironically, Reverend Wright’s observations actually have some merit where he remarks regarding The United State’s policies of meddling in middle eastern affairs, for at least a century. They have in a sense “come back to roost”. Our political and business interests in that region have aggravated the circumstances many times. Just like this war: “Operation Iraqi Oil Grab”! What is unacceptable to most, including me, is his rant of disrespect in cursing “America” from his pulpit! He’s way over the top for most of us. It is not so much about his argument that I take issue with, it’s the presentation! Let’s just say that Reverend Wright’s presentation was not at all politically correct. Come On. Obama never spoke those words. Give it a rest, Hillary!
Posted by: michael basham | March 20, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
FOX poll today says BILL Clinton would win against Hillary, against Barack, and against McCain if he were eligible to run again. If Bill is so well loved, why does everyone hate Hillary? He pushed through NAFTA and he misbehaved in the White House, but these things are obviously Hillary’s fault. Man, if Barack is teflon then Hillary is velcro. Let’s cut to the chase, people. How about a public flogging. Or maybe hold her head under water and if she drowns she’s holy, if she survives she’s a proven witch.
Posted by: Heather | March 20, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
The show put out by you Obama supporters is so ugly. Your hatred is so intense it’s despicable. If she is pushing Wright story to super delegates, it’s absolutely a legitimate thing to do. Without Wright story she should always make her case with superdelegates. Now, with Wright, suddenly she is not allowed to so? Laughable. She has a stronger case, so she should push harder.
You Obama supporter would you please grow up? Don’t act like spoiled teens. If you don’t get your way, you whine, curse, and attack. Really impressive followers of a “uniter”.
Posted by: Andy | March 20, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Obama needs to resign from the race and his Senate seat. Even his comments today show he lacks character. Also his dealings with shady individuals–Ayers, Rezko and the continuous lies he tells to cover his past shows he has poor judgement, is dishonest,a hypocrite and is not a creditable candidate to hold the Presidency. He was one of the first people who said Imus and Trent Lott needed to resign, so why hasn’t he resigned???
Posted by: dfinke | March 20, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Jerry, what makes you think Obama is stopping the folks from voting? Hillary is the one stopping the vote. Obama said he was OK with the plan as long as everyone could vote. Hillary wants to exclude anyone that voted in the Republican primary even though she knows many Democrats crossed over because they didn’t think their vote would count.
Do you actually think the later would be fair?
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Sigh. Is Clinton pushing the Wright story? Is the Pope Catholic? Where do bears go to the restroom?
Come ON!
Posted by: Martin | March 20, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
If we now nominate Obama…we are insane. Democrats wake up now or see McDuck or whatever his name is moving in the White House next.
Posted by: roger king | March 20, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Why doesn’t anyone ask Obama why he added Wright to his campaign AFTER he knew his comments were controversial? Obama knew BEFORE he declared his candidacy. And according to Wright, Obama knew he needed to distance himself from Wright. That was back in FEBRURARY 2007.
So why would Obama add Wright to his campaign??
Obama church published Hamas terror manifesto:
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59456
Here’s a copy of the church bulletin:
http://www.bizzyblog.com/wp-images/TUCChamasColumn072207.jpg
Posted by: Susan Bertalotto | March 20, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
and their scorched-earth politics against Obama, ++++++++Got to love those cute little media saying people grab a hold of,oh well==Looks like Obama not only scorched the earth, he burned some bridges,
Posted by: ATYPICALWHITEWOMAN | March 20, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Dfinke, because he’s done nothing that would warrant a resignation. Why doesn’t Hillary resign her seat for lying to the public about NAFTA, withholding her tax returns, lying about her foreign affairs experience and her lack of credibility?
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Why doesn’t anyone ask Obama why he added Wright to his campaign AFTER he knew his comments were controversial? Obama knew BEFORE he declared his candidacy. And according to Wright, Obama knew he needed to distance himself from Wright. That was back in FEBRUARY 2007.
So why would Obama add Wright to his campaign??
Obama church published Hamas terror manifesto:
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59456
Here’s a copy of the church bulletin:
http://www.bizzyblog.com/wp-images/TUCChamasColumn072207.jpg
Posted by: Susan Bertalotto | March 20, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
I can’t call Wright is a racist…
But I know a true pastor is not to promote hatred but to ask people to repent their sins in the name of God..
Wright crossed his line as a pastor… The racist is a political term not from Bible…
Posted by: Truth | March 20, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Syl – please clock out now. You are one of Obama’s paid blogger. You are attacking almost everyone that says anything negative about Obama. Is your 8 hours up already? Pack-up and go home and take Obama with you.
Posted by: BobPatz | March 20, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Unless Obama implodes, Hillary can’t win.
I’m just waiting until she releases her 8 years of back taxes, the names of the people who donated to the $165 million Clinton library, the rest of her documents as first lady, and explains in detail the roll Bill Clinton’s will have in her administration. Maybe the mainstream media will grow a pair and instead of being afraid of being seen as misogynists they will be more afraid of being seen as the cowardly hacks that they’ve shown themselves to be so far.
Posted by: Michael | March 20, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Listen, Obama is welcome to attend any church he wishes for 20 years, he can donate 25k in 2007, he can have the Pastor marry him and baptize his children, BUT when you are going to run for any public office, let alone the highest in the land you must realize that Pastor Wright’s comments are not “mainstream” and will be offensive to people, the lack of judgement on this matter is what will lose votes for him. Period.
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Wow Susan, I knew Hillary was a liar but I thought even she would stop short of fabricating literature. Damn! Now, that’s incredible.
You are something else. Well Hillary did say she was a fighter, she never said it would be fair.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Yes of course the Clinton camp is pushing it. The whole Reverand Wright Story was planned from day one and is the epitome of racism in this country. Sen Obama could not have been more clear or more eloquent about the issue and America is about to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Sen. Obama’s speech was both magnificent and educational for those who have the ears to hear. Could we possibly think that Hillary Clinton is anywhere near the person that Barak Obama is? Oh please. Wake up America and specifically Pennsylvania voters.
Posted by: DaveE | March 20, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Two words.
Lanny Davis.
Posted by: DaCoach | March 20, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Obama stayed in a racist hate church for 20 years, exposed his kids to hate lecturing for who knows how long, donated to the hate church $20,000, lied about it, tried to cover it, has poll numbers nose-diving, why shouldn’t Clinton push her case with superdelegates? Do you know how many are wishing they could re-vote? Do you know how many would rather vote for GOP rather than Obama?
Posted by: Andy | March 20, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
BTW, even Bush knew Obama has not been nominee yet…. Don’t crown yourself too quick without putting on the clothes..
Posted by: Truth | March 20, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
I don’t think Clinton needs to say one word about this,..the damage is done,..if Obama wins the nomination it will be McSame!!
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
Bob, more arrogance from the Hillary camp. I guess I should shuffle away because you don’t like my responses.
Sorry, its’ 2008 Bob. No intimidation.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
Syl,
I didn’t fabricate anything. What are you referring to?
The question still remains: Why did Obama dis-invite Wright to the candidacy speech and then give him a place on the campaign?
Posted by: Susan Bertalotto | March 20, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
WEBSTERS THIRD NEW INTERNATIONAL DICTIONARY: racism – the assumption that psychocultural traits and capacities are determined by biological race and that races differ decisively from from one another which is usually coupled with a belief in the inherent superiority of a particular race and its DOMINATION over others.
We definitely have tried to embrace white america, but when has white america openly and publicly embraced us, if there were no racism from your culture in the first place there would be no arguments going on right now, but NNOOOOOOOOOOO The US GOVT. let racism exist they had the power to cut racism at the root during the Civil War, but that hate was passed on to sons and daughters thru 60′s on up to PRESENT. I cannot classify all whites but the ones in here calling out OBAMA AND WRIGHT to be such “RACIST”, who started it, Rev. Wright went thru the fire during the Civil Rights Movement and experienced head on, where the hell were you!!! sitting down eating ice cream watching TV. Some of you werent even born. You dont know what kind of anguish that man feels, You want him to be so quick to forgive YOU (whoever the racist white is on here) when the pain was inflicted on him, that is ridiculous somebody spit on your face, break bottles on your head, kick you in the @$$ and then tell you, that you cannot be angry, and put a GIG ORDER ON YOU! how Hypocritical can you be you SELF CENTERED RACIST BASTA#$%S
Posted by: revisited08 | March 20, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
Andy, you have a point and one that’s not lost on me. I agree, it’s almost impossible for Obama to defeat McCain in November looking at the current climate. However, if Hillary is the nominee I can assure you most Obama backers will not support her and the Republicans that are voting for her in the primaries will return to their party.
It seems the Democrats are the real losers in this type of politics.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
According to the poles Obama has the backing of the collage educated upper-class. This being true I figure they will see that he is a racist hiding behind a front as a unifier. There may be some of you die-hard Obamaites who would sell out the party if you don’t get your way but I don’t think you are a majority by no means. It is sad that Obama was so greedy that he couldn’t wait long enough to learn the ins and outs of politicing. There is the seedy side and the honest side. Poor Obama didn’t wait around long enough to learn how to combat the negatives that will inevitably come up during a campaign. My guess is, his greedy wife wanted it all and she wanted it now. In essence I think she threw him to the wolves by not allowing him to learn the ins and outs. She didn’t allow him the time to learn that Americans are not going to abide him sitting listening to racial anti-american sentiment for 20 years and not be completely turned off. As a result of this I feel he has ruined his chances to ever be anything more than a one-time senator from Illinois.
Posted by: Barb | March 20, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
Susan, I’m sorry if I misread your post but didn’t you post something that suggested the UCC distributed Hamas literature? If so, that is a fabrication. If not, my apologies.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Kutan
Are you F#*%king kidding me…”HRC has less baggage than BO”
Have you been in a cave for the last 15 years?
Posted by: Cathy | March 20, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
The Clintons will do whatever they can to win no matter what it takes.I wish they would just both go away!!
Posted by: RON | March 20, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Barbara the advantage of having that demographic supporting his campaign is that they actually research the issues instead of taking the issues at face value or based on media reports.
That alone will lead them to dismiss the Wright story. The bigger issue is the tone between Obama’s campaign and the “beer drinking” blue collar workers as CNN described them. By the way, those aren’t my words.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Syl,
Yes, I did post the link to the pickture of the church bulletin from July 2007.
Here it is again:
http://www.bizzyblog.com/wp-images/TUCChamasColumn072207.jpg
And no, I didn’t fabricate it, I just posted it. You need to take a chill-pill.
Posted by: Susan Bertalotto | March 20, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Oh yeah the Wright story was planted from day one. Yeah Obama was forced to attend Wright’s church 20 years ago,sit in the pew when Wright was giving some not so right lectures, was forced to call Wright his mentor and spiritual advisor, was forced to make Wright part of his compaign, oh, the Clintons are really powerful, don’t you agree?
It’s not his fault! All Clinton’s fault!
Yeah blame others as you want.
Posted by: Steve | March 20, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Hillary on divisiveness and fear mongering the Super delegates: “Hey, it worked in Texas and Ohio.”
Posted by: Michael | March 20, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
TypicalWhiteWoman, here’s an open invitation. I will pay your way to Chicago and ask that you attend one service at UCC. If you leave that service believing Rev. Wright and his congregation hate white people I will cast my vote for Hillary.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
It looks like Clinton has her own problem with religious affiliation to explain. She is involved with “The Fellowship” aka “The Family” whose goal is to have a Christian elite to rule the world. Now perhaps she is not aware of this, but she has been part of this group since 1993, so she has some explaining to do. This group is mostly evangelical and conservative with some of the most conservative members of Congress involved such as Brownback and Inhofe. This group has a shady history that goes back for decades and was involved with the dicator Suharto and other dictators in South America. I should say if she wants to be the Dem nominee she should explain what in the world she is doing with this group.
Posted by: Goldie | March 20, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
“Do whatever they can to win”?
You mean threw your grandma under the bus to save your compaign? Picture your grandma who loved you, raised you as a racist?
Posted by: Steve | March 20, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Obama got most votes from Reps and swing inds. from caucuses…
Obama can’t even win the base of blue states in his own primary….
There is Zero chance he will win over McCain in Nov.. period…
He claimed or potrayed himself as Saint but he is NOT.. the biggest mistake he has made…
Posted by: Truth | March 20, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Syl – you are not responding intelligently to the people here. You are attacking them. Arrogant – are you calling yourself that? Because you are the arrogant one not me. Just admit it that you are a paid blogger by the Obama camp. I have never seen anyone respond to almost everyone that is against Obama. Did they hire you to stop the bleeding and do damage control?
Posted by: BobPatz | March 20, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
OK Steve, I extend the invitation to you too. :)
We have to get past these myths folks. What’s sad, is that we all probably agree on the real issues and the way to resolve them. We are stuck debating the relationship between Senator Obama and Rev. Wright based on false allegations of racism.
I wish I could get all you Clinton supporters to spend just one hour with Rev. Wright. He’s far more than that out of context soundbite.
This pastor is one of the most courageous men you would ever want to meet. Pretty direct and sometime too fiery for his own good but not a racist.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
People, don’t be morons. If Hillary were behind this story don’t you think it would’ve come out BEFORE Barack stacked up his string of tiny red-state wins? I don’t have a dog in this particular race, but it’s clear which one attracts the biggest numbskulls.
Posted by: Heather | March 20, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Are you F#*%king kidding me…”HRC has less baggage than BO”
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At least she is calling an anti american hate monger “mentor and spiritual advisor”!
Posted by: Andy | March 20, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
As Obama and Clinton show their true colors, John McCain is looking good. Does Michael Dukakis ring a bell here…
Posted by: jim 234 | March 20, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
How about this lets US OBAMANITES pull out of the election, and let you CLINGON AND CANAANITES run this country and when it goes to hell just let us be!
The same message was given to Bush during his election and see what happened!
Posted by: revisited08 | March 20, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
As Obama and Clinton show their true colors, John McCain is looking good. Does Michael Dukakis ring a bell here…
Posted by: jim 234 | March 20, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Look how Obama is lying about NAFTA:
From Canada’s The Globe and Mail, Feb. 28, page 1:
“A senior member of Mr. Obama’s campaign team called Canada’s US ambassador, Michael Wilson, within the past month, warning him that Mr. Obama would be taking some ‘heavy swings’ at NAFTA in the campaign. ‘Don’t worry…it’s just campaign rhetoric,….it’s not serious.”
Posted by: David | March 20, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Did you hear what Obama said today about “typical white people”. It was another offending remark from the race candidate. He’s going to implode his candidacy with these kind of statements.
Posted by: Charles | March 20, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Bob, it’s your arrogance that interprets an intelligent response as arrogance and attacks. I have responded to each post I deemed of interest with facts not attacks.
You on the other hand have used false allegations to trump up a story and hide the fact that you haven’t looked deep enough into Rev. Wright to support your arguments beyond a 3 minute sound bite.
And no…I am not a paid blogger. I’m an educated voter. Independent I might add..leaning toward McCain if you must know.
I just know more about Rev. Wright than he’s been given credit as a result of living in Chicago.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Why Obama attracted some high-income class dem or independents..:
Be frank: because they don’t care about the blue working class… They only like to have new faces, new star…Who is elected will have minimum impact on their life… They just like drama… Ohama fits their desire..
That is the fact…
Posted by: Truth | March 20, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
I really do not believe that Obama or Pastor Wright are rascists. Again it comes down to “Judgement” Obama should have distanced himself from this before he began his campaign. It is that lack of judgement that will end his bid for the White house.
Try again in 8 years.
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
^^^I agree with a lot that you just stated!
Posted by: revisited08 | March 20, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
At least she is NOT calling an anti american hate monger “mentor and spiritual advisor”!
HAHA, forgot the NOT.
Posted by: Andy | March 20, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
The question is not “Why Barack Obama stayed at his church for 20 years”. If you belong to a church you know it’s not all about the pastor. Barack started attending that church when he first came to Chicago when he was a community organizer; these are people he fought for and with to get housing and jobs. The church is about God, it’s about fellowship, it’s about relationships you’ve built, and it’s about family… The question that should be asked is who are you and what are you willing to do to change America. Do you want more of the same or do you want a better America…We may have all arrived on different boats but we are all here together now and if we want a better America …We are the change we have been waiting for and Barack Obama is the man to help us get there. Please do not let the media divide us any further.
Posted by: habonds | March 20, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Syl,
If I posted on this site any of the controversial remarks that Wright made, my IP would be banned. Why? Because the remarks are racist, rude, obnoxious, and degrading.
I have no idea why you would defend such a person who says such thing ON AN ON-GOING BASIS.
Wright is not like an uncle you have to put up with. If Obama didn’t like and didn’t agree with his rhetoric, then he would try to stay away from such a person. Any family member with such an uncle would tell you the same.
His explanations/excuses don’t wash.
Posted by: Susan Bertalotto | March 20, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Truth, come on if that were the case they would just vote in a woman.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Well the Obamatons have been screaming “white racism” and “Hillary did it” instead of realizing the TRUTH!!
Obama got caught attending a church where the pastor is an avowed racist. How did he get caught???
His own church was selling the DVDs of Wright’s “The Best of Rev Wright’s Sermons”
Sorry Obamatons and Obama TV (MSNBC) you can’t pin this on Hillary. Hillary is only pointing out the obvious … Obama is completely unelectable!
Posted by: libby | March 20, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Why is racist white america so blind? IS IT DENIAL!
Posted by: revisited08 | March 20, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Wright didn’t say anything racist. He said White America has the power and the money, all true. He said 9/11 was a direct result of Americas foreign policy. It was, unless you’re going to claim the terrorists were lying about their motives. He said Hillary has no idea what it’s like to grow up black in America. She doesn’t. All the other stuff was outlandish, stupid and sensationalistic but racist? No.
The more I hear white America cry “racism” the surer I become that white America doesn’t truly know what racism truly is.
Posted by: Michael | March 20, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
There goes ABC News again. Trying now to put “Blame” on the Hillary Camp. Just because “THEIR OBVIOUS” chosen candidate but humilited by his former pastor, now they want to place suspicion on the Clinton Camp. Why did not ABC, CNN, NBC, and CBS air anything originally when this news story came out late last week. CAN ABC ANSWER THAT QUESTION? It is so obvious that ABC (and the above networks) were for him with all the Clinton bashing that had been going on for weeks. That’s all they every talked about. How she had no chance and might steal the election. Quit with the theories and quit trying to place this in the minds of Americans!!! Putting Obama on Nightline and Good Morning America to better explain his pastor’s remarks is not going to help either. It may be too late for him. I did not watch or would listen to him anyway. It had to take Someone from his Fox News Program to point out how ABC only mentioned about tens seconds of it last week and had only posted it on its website, NBC and CBS did not even bother to mention what Rev. Wright had said because “They, the news media” felt it was not news worthy. Guess the rest of the media, which is being neutral and who reported the story felt otherwise because they felt strongly that it was important information that the American people realize the type of person who wants to be president? What do we really know what he thinks of inside. Even though it is the pastor’s words, Mr. Obama had previously stated that he had looked up to his pastor and praised him. How can he look up to someone who obviously has such hatred towards America. Mr. Obama was aware of the type of sermons that his pastor has been giving for over twenty years. Now we know what Michelle Obama meant. Is this the kind of woman we want as First Lady? Hillary is the best choice and most experience. I certainly hope the media (and you know who are) would quit trying to persuade their point of view and influence the vote. New Hampshire, California, Arizona, Ohio, New Mexico and Texas (and a few other states) did not listen to you and voted their own minds. I certainly hope the Super Delegates now realize who is and has always been the better candidate, they can see for themselves who is the better choice. Guess Obama was right about one thing, “Speaches are not mearly just words” Guess he did not figure that it worked the other way too. What is most shocking is that his (former pastor and he now calls him) uses profanity not only in front of children BUT uses the Lord’s name in Vain, AND in GOD’s HOUSE. Shame on the pastor and Mr. Obama!!!
Posted by: ClintonSupporter | March 20, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Do you all really think the “typicalwhitewoman” comment in the context he used it was a racist comment? Do you really believe that?
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
New politics, which Obama represents?
..it is that Obama has introduced PASSIVE/ AGGRESSIVENESS…
…into politics.. that is what is new…
doh!
Posted by: aw | March 20, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
To all of you who seem to think this will go away, you are wrong.
Just like today, everytime Obama opens his mouth to speak, he will show us a little bit more.
I am a white woman who walks past or beside balck men women and children every day, I ride elevators with them, I sit at tables beside them to eat, I sit next to them in waiting rooms and never, not once, have I felt threatened because a black person was that close to me.
I strongly denounce his saying that typical white people react that way. They can not push their racist fews on those of us who rebuke them.
Posted by: redraz9 | March 20, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
Hey the white resume compared to the black has SLIME written all over it, so NO you dont get to win the POSITION of trust with US! SORRY! YOU ALL WILL HAVE TO EMBRACE US, NO MORE KISSING YOUR @$$ THOSE DAYS ARE OVER!
Posted by: revisited08 | March 20, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
Who says Ohama will make a better America… by his words?? What is the differnce of his words from a preacher or pastor, maybe he should be called: political preacher…..
We should let Pope (king of preachers) as US president if words can make America better…
Posted by: Truth | March 20, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
The funny thing is this is exactly why she is less electble …because almost everyone outside of her supporters hates her…and it is not because she is strong woman.
It’s because she (“blech”) slimy as all hell. She releases info with chunks missing …over states everything makes crap up…
ugh … You think she has a better chance of the American people picking her? Are you kidding …people want to like their President…she’s …she’s
C’mon fear, wrapped in lists of scandals…wrapped in that smile…wrapped in this crap… and topped with her first lady years as her proof of experience over obama and McCain.
C’mon
Posted by: dl | March 20, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Susan, name the racist remarks that offended you? I have listened to both sermons (in their entireity) and I have yet to hear anything racist.
I have heard a comment or two that were offensive but not because of race or anti-American sentiment. Simply because they were insensitive to the families of the victims of 9/11.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Why Obama attracted some high-income class dem or independents..:
Be frank: because they don’t care about the blue working class… They only like to have new faces, new star…Who is elected will have minimum impact on their life… They just like drama… Ohama fits their desire..
That is the fact…
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Well said. They call those working class “downscale democrats”, “beer drinking” blue collar workers”. Watch CNN, MSNBC, you can clearly see their comtempt toward them.
Posted by: Steve | March 20, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Why Obama attracted some high-income class dem or independents..:
Be frank: because they don’t care about the blue working class… They only like to have new faces, new star…Who is elected will have minimum impact on their life… They just like drama… Ohama fits their desire..
That is the fact…
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Well said. They call those working class “downscale democrats”, “beer drinking” blue collar workers”. Watch CNN, MSNBC, you can clearly see their comtempt toward them.
Posted by: Steve | March 20, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Redraz, I agree with you completely. His use of a stereotype was totally out of line. Does that make him a racist?
I surely doubt you believe that…
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
OBAMA = PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE
Posted by: aw | March 20, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
I saw the sermon, my eyes are not lying to me about what that tirade was all about. He was right about Hillary, Nobody ever called her the N word. Why would they?
Posted by: BikernAz | March 20, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Clinton needs to drop out of the race. There’s no possible way she can recover the delegates lost to Obama. He will be the nominee. She needs to drop out so the party can unite behind Obama. Beating McCain in November should be the one and only goal, yet all she cares about is herself.
Posted by: Eric | March 20, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Posted by Syl:
Susan, name the racist remarks that offended you? I have listened to both sermons (in their entireity) and I have yet to hear anything racist.
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Oh, PLLEEEEEEZE! Who ARE you??? and what planet do you live on?????
Posted by: Susan Bertalotto | March 20, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
TypicalWhiteWoman, I apologize but I failed to understand the point you were attempting to make with the Cosby excerpt.
Please elaborate.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Susan, does that mean you won’t name one or you can’t name one?
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
Unless the superdelegates live in a cave in the middle of nowhere, they dont need anyone to push the Wright story. And as far as the notion goes that Hillary is pushing it, good for her. Looking at the polls and sensing the shift away from Obama they need to think twice before voteing for NoBama!
Posted by: roberincharlotte | March 20, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
HRC is shameless like her Billy boy in the Whitehouse corridors with young interns!!
Filthy rich with connections to filthy rich special interests. America you really want change. GO CRAZY FOR OBAMA. Obama is probably the ONLY positive candidate. The ONLY who can give America back to Americans. He can deliver you to you from the clutches of lobbyists and shameless agents of the big Corporate culture that has brought nothing but frustration and helplessness to the people.
GO OBAMA! WE ARE ALL FOR YOU! YOU CAN. YES YOU CAN!
Posted by: Khan | March 20, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
HRC is shameless like her Billy boy in the Whitehouse corridors with young interns!!
Filthy rich with connections to filthy rich special interests. America you really want change. GO CRAZY FOR OBAMA. Obama is probably the ONLY positive candidate. The ONLY who can give America back to Americans. He can deliver you to you from the clutches of lobbyists and shameless agents of the big Corporate culture that has brought nothing but frustration and helplessness to the people.
GO OBAMA! WE ARE ALL FOR YOU! YOU CAN. YES YOU CAN!
Posted by: Khan | March 20, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
ATYPICALWHITEWOMAN if you had to throw it out there you already believed it! And unlike you, we already know what we need to do, we do have our faults AT LEAST WE ARE NOT ASHAMED TO ADMIT OUR GUILTY STAINS FROM THE PAST TO THE PRESENT! YOU AND YOUR CRONIES HAVE TO SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG AND ARE TO AFRAID TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES OF RACE BECAUSE YOU ALL DONT WANT TO DEAL WITH THE “TRUE” UGLINESS YOU RACIST WHITES TO POSSESS, AND THAT IS NOT MEANT FOR ALL WHITES JUST THE RACIST ONES!
Posted by: revisited08 | March 20, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
the government is controlled by rich white people, and it created AIDS to kill off the blacks.
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Some say here Wright said “it” the government created AIDS to kill blacks, so it’s not racial. I see it’s clearly saying “white” created AIDS to kill off “BLACK”, and it’s a lie, of course. If this isn’t racial, what is?
What if someone says “this organization is controlled by blacks, and it created drug to kill off white people”?
Posted by: Andy | March 20, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
TypicalWhiteWoman, I’ve read and heard the comments before but I thought you were trying to make a specific point. Was I incorrect?
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Andy, but he didn’t say WHITES he said the government. So now we create word exchange to make statements more inflammatory?
Come on man, you are better than that.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
I’m counting down the moments until someone from the Obama side who will cry that this is racism. I can’t stand a Hillary administration, but if her side is pushing the story, it’s only fair game. You’re right – pass the popcorn.
Posted by: Adam Smith | March 20, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Andy, if it were factual…where’s the beef? This government experimented on black men during the Tuskegee experiment. That’s the frame of reference from which Rev. Wright makes his comparisons.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Posted by Syl:
Susan, does that mean you won’t name one or you can’t name one?
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What it means is: I’m not going to answer such a ridiculous question.
A couple of the posters referred to you as a paid (or un-paid) Obama staff-member. I’m beginning to think they’ve got something there.
BTW, you haven’t answered my question: Why did Obama dis-invite Wright to the candidacy speech and then give him a place on the campaign?
But it’s okay if you are unable to answer that question. Don’t want to stress you out.
Posted by: Susan Bertalotto | March 20, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Syl,
She is pointing out that an educated black man says this. It wasn’t that hard to figure out why she posted the article about Bill Cosby.
Posted by: J | March 20, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Andy, I should add that I too think that theory is utterly ridiculous because we all know the government created AID’s as part of chemical warfare experiment that went terribly wrong.
We also know the government wouldn’t spend that much money on black folks. :) (thats a joke my man…lighten up.)
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Donna: Bill Graham (that arch anti-semite) had lunch, or was it dinner, at the White House at the invitation of President Nixon. So what else is new.
Posted by: alagbon | March 20, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Still a quite bit of Obama’s fans used dirty words for Hillary as personal attacks…
It only shows what kind of quality of his supporter is….
Posted by: Truth | March 20, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Today BHO says “The reaction of my grandma wose a reaction of tipical white person”. And who is tip. black person? He is a RASIST
Posted by: PP | March 20, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
HEY SYL, SHE WAS JUST TRYING TO MAKE ME UPSET, I AM SO IMMUNE TO WHITE CRITICISM IT IS FUNNY, THE FUNNY PART TO ME THOUGH, IS THIS, THAT THE ANGER SHE FEELS NOW, WE HAVE FELT FOR SO MANY YEARS AND AT HIGHER DEGREES, SHE CANT EVEN TAKE WORDS BEING THROWN AT HER, SO YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE TAKEN SHE DEFINITELY COULDN’T TAKE! LIKE I SAID THEY HAVENT GONE THRU THE FIRE TO EXPERIENCE WHAT OPPRESSION IS. SO THEY ARE IGNORANT AND BLIND TO THE EFFECTS. THEY HAVENT BEEN TREATED WITH THE MEDICINE THAT WE HAVE TAKEN, THAT IS WHAT SCARES THEM THE MOST, IT SCARED THE MASTER ON THE PLANTATION WHEN SLAVES REVOLTED AND IT SCARES THEM NOW!
Posted by: revisited08 | March 20, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
J, but how does that tie to this argument? I’m sorry I just haven’t made the connection to your argument. So what a black man made an intelligent yet inflammatory (in some circles) comment.
How does that support her argument about anything she has said?
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Where in the world is Waldo Wright?
Posted by: russell | March 20, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
OK – Now I get it…she was talking to you revisited. See I obviously missed the comment that preceeded hers.
My apologies to you both. I was reading too many posts and obviously missed one.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
I think that the Obama supporters are forgetting a little something here. Obama picked the Wright person to sabotage his campaign. The media is the weapon. Burn the Obama campaign down!
Posted by: BikernAz | March 20, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
OBAMA is PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE..
..that is NEW POLITICS..
(oh, did anybody notice: he did not mention any other of the other (latin-, asian-, etc.) minorities…
and the TUSKEGEE EXPERIMENT/STUDY…
hmmm…what about the “as well as local black doctors [who] also participated..”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Study_of_Untreated_Syphilis_in_the_Negro_Male
AGAIN:
OBAMA = PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE…
at least Jesse Jackson ran on a Rainbow Coalition…
..while Obama worships in an BLACK/AFRO-CENTRIC church..
while mellifluously (passive-aggressively) speaking UNITY..
SHEEEEEHHH!
Posted by: aw | March 20, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Where in the world is Waldo Wright?
Posted by: Obama Stopper | March 20, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
ATYPICALWHITEWOMAN and if you dont deal with the past and let the afflicted release that anger, and if you dont give gifts or show love from your friends, family or ancestors wrong doing than you are doomed for failure
Posted by: revisited08 | March 20, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Andy, if it were factual…where’s the beef? This government experimented on black men during the Tuskegee experiment. That’s the frame of reference from which Rev. Wright makes his comparisons.
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as I heard, Wright certainly was not making a comparison. And he certainly was not refering anything. Seems to me he really believed what he said.
And if you have to seperate “the government is controlled by rich white” from “it created AIDS to kill off blacks”, you are all free to do so. But I’m afraid you cannot convince me, let alone many others. “it” has not its own motive, it’s the “people” behind “it” who are responsible. That is what Rev. Wright deliverd to his church members, of which many are very young and are not able to tell right from wrong yet.
If you choose not to see this point, well continue support Obama.
Posted by: Andy | March 20, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
You can bet the Queen of Sleeze has her fingers in this one. It’s time for the press to expose her for not releasing information, especially where she gets her money. Not releasing information till it’s been sanitized by her lawyers only proves how un-qualified she is to be President. Hillary is in the same camp as Nixon.
Posted by: Den | March 20, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Susan, that’s cute. So obviously you have dismissed the act that every “racist” comment that’s been raised from Rev. Wright’s sermons have been dismissed as either gross exaggerations or determined to be factual and not racist at all.
Now, the invitation was actually withdrawn at Rev. Wright’s request and the request of Sen. Obama’s advisors. That reasons behind that have not been disclosed but if I’m a betting man I would bet someone had wind of the potential for Rev. Wright to make potentially inflammatory statements.
What you must know is that Rev. Wright is known across the globe as a fiery speaker and he can be a loose cannon. That’s not in the sense of a racist loose cannon just that he is extremely outspoken.
Now, I answered your question. Go do some research and come back and return the favor.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
I am not actually saying he is a racist, but to be honest with you, I don’t know what to think of all of this
I really thought we were through with all of this, for the most part anyway.
I know there is racism still, but the outright hatred is what scares me.
I think Obama is a good person and I don’t believe most of what I read on these boards. But I don’t believe Obama is ready to be president and now, I’m not sure if he will ever get another chance.
This issue won’t go away, there are too many of both races that want to keep it alive. I just hope it doesn’t spin so out of control that we go back 50 years.
Posted by: redraz9 | March 20, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
If this is what passes for political debate in the the USA, then you are truly bankrupt. If you haven’t already damaged your country beyond all repair by electing George W (twice!) then this is your last chance to avoid the total collapse of your country. I’m not American, but I don’t want one of the most influential of all democracies to demonstrate to the world a massive failure of the democratic system. Put down the mud and talk about issues!
Posted by: Neil in Canada | March 20, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
Andy, don’t take this the wrong way but I personally don’t care if white or black folks ever believe Rev. Wright isn’t a racist. Nor do I care if this country ever elects a black president or a woman. It’s just not on my list of things to do this month.
Now, with that said, I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything. I’m merely sharing the information I have with you and you can dismiss it, research it or pass it on. It really doesn’t matter much to me because I’m not on that boat that wants inclusion or acceptance.
I’ve found some nuggets for thought from Susan, Typical, Revisited and yourself. That leads me to look deeper at the issues because I personally don’t trust the media.
If you thought I was trying to convince you that was a bad assumption.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
Jo: So what? What if he’s toast? How does that help you because the fallout is McCain wins. You’re delusional to even nurse the hope that Clinton can still pull this off after all these. With or without Obama, Clinton is toast.
Posted by: alagbon | March 20, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Only the democrats could find a way to lose following up the Bush administration.
Honestly: Let’s find a way to annoy the people of two states, and one of them is a key state with this whole stripping of delegates fiasco. At least the Republicans had the foresight to leave half of them in place. (Credit where its due). Then … with their idiotic proportional delegate system they drag on the brutal nominating process enough so that by the time they are done both parties are sufficiently bloody that Mickey Mouse could win on the Republican Ticket. Big ears and all.
Posted by: Ellis | March 20, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
And that’s typical of Obama supporters. Stand by a racist pastor, justify curse of their country, to win, they will do anything they can. God D*** america. That’s just outspoken. 9/11, chicken come home to roost, just outspoken. No sorry to 9/11 victims, no sorry to their families. Just outspoken. You got to understand him, right? Well tell this to 9/11 victims! tell this to their families!
Posted by: Andy | March 20, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Except for ultra liberals and may be some blacks nothing angers the common man or woman more than insulting his or her country. Two very important people in Obama’s life, Rev. Wright and his wife has done just that. I do not think that when Americans vote next time whether in primary or general election they will forget that.
Posted by: satish | March 20, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
A CLINICAL EXHIBITION OF PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR:
“Funny how Oprah (Huge Obama Supporter) happened to be “sick” when the ABC news program “The View” tried to contact her regarding his pastor’s comments. Seems like she…”
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Posted by: Clinton [another socialist] Supporter | Mar 20, 2008 8:01:40 PM
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Heck!… even DR. PHIL would say Obama is Passive-Aggressive..
..but he can’t: he’s a OPRAH SHILL… on her payroll…
SHEEEEEESH!!!
Posted by: aw | March 20, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Redraz, therein lies the dilemma. The damage done to the Democratic party by this political flap cuts deep across racial lines. Not so much the issue with Rev. Wright but how it was positioned and how some individuals reacted. The Democrats have no chance of winning in November. That’s reality. However, I believe Obama will get another chance because the generation of folks that support him will be more influential in 4-8 years and the folks that maintain a lot of these hardcore racist beliefs will finally be outnumbered by more open minded people. If it’s not him there will be someone from this generation that will force this country to look in the mirror. It might be a white candidate, a black candidate, a hispanice or asian candidate…a woman candidate. I don’t know but the fact that Senator Obama carried so much of the vote says we have made some progress and enough to close the gap in the next 20 years.
That assumes we have a dialouge on race. We cannot have exchanges like the one on this board and expect these wounds to heal themselves. That’s precisely what Senator Obama was trying to say when he so courageously put race on the table in his speech.
The fact that some people only heard comments directed toward black, or toward white instead of a message for America is why I know we have a long way to go.
Make sense?
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
To Mark Williams
I will make you a deal……..I will stop reacting to things like this just as soon as someone sticks a sock in Jessie Jackson and Al Sharptons mouth.
Posted by: redraz9 | March 20, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Redraz, I agree…and I think most African Americans agree.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
So now you blame Hillary for the what was said.. Let’s face it, the Rev. Wright just happens to be a Black Racist.. Racist, come in all colors, and Blacks are just as bad (or good)at it as all other Races around the world.. He just floated to the top because of his main man Obama.. Obama can say that he’s ok with it, but the voters seem to be thinking differently.. You can’t go to that Church for 20 years, and not have that vile talk effect your politics..
Posted by: J.Murphy, CA. | March 20, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
If only the Democrats had a winner take all delegate program like the Republcans, Hillary would have already won the nomination and we would not be in this Obama mess!!
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Oh please, like the Obama camp wouldn’t be doing the exact same thing. It’s politics. Obama is an opportunistic,
overly-ambitious, rank and file, corporate candidate just like them all.
Give up the pipedream.
Posted by: alpaig | March 20, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Obama’s chickens are comin home to roost,…
WASHINGTON (CNN) – Hillary Clinton has reclaimed the lead from Barack Obama in the Democratic presidential race for the first time since early February, a new national poll out Thursday suggests.
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Well, when Bill and Hillary were trying to patch things up after Monica-Gate, they asked Jesse Jackson to come and advise them. Jesse and Wright are not good presidential choices, but Barack Obama is.
Posted by: Marilyn | March 20, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
I think the Rev Wright story is terrific. Now the crazy right-wingers have to admit he’s a Christian. It is far, far less damaging to Obama that he attended a church where his pastor said some mildly offensive things than for people to think that he doesn’t believe Jesus is Magic.
Posted by: seth | March 20, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
The question Democratic voters and superdelegates have to ask themself is will a Willie Horton type campaign ad. will sink Obama in general election. I can almost guarantee that it is coming. McCain may not approve such tactic but he can not control 527 groups.
Posted by: sammy | March 20, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
Breaking News: Is anyone following this? The NBC has just broken the news about a breach of Obama’s passport at the State Department. Now, you tell who could be responsible?. Ooh!! This is looking good.
GO, OBAMA. Yes, we can.
Posted by: alagbon | March 20, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Obama’s chickens are comin home to roost,…
WASHINGTON (CNN) – Hillary Clinton has reclaimed the lead from Barack Obama in the Democratic presidential race for the first time since early February, a new national poll out Thursday suggests.
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Does the popular media take responsibility for anything except their inherent (and at times it seems exclusive) right to the 1st Amendment? No one can ‘push the Wright’ controversy without the popular media’s direct assistance. Intelligent people know what that guy said was way, way, way over the line, we don’t need to hear it more than once. Claiming the comments were ‘taken out of context’ make me laugh, as well as the attempt to legitimicize him. I am no Clinton supporter, but Oprahma is not even on my list of ‘possible candidates’.
Posted by: TheRockofAges | March 20, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Andy, not sure if you were referring to me but you are correct. I stand by my conviction that Rev. Wright is not a racist. Sorry, but I know better. I’ve researched the man and unless the KKK is building schools for the black underpriviledged as Jeremiah Wright has done for the white underpriviledged I can’t say the man meets my definition of racist.
Unless I hear other “conservative” ministers speaking up for the rights of homosexuals in society and for equal acknowledgement of their marital status, I can’t call the man homophobic or full of hatred.
Unless I see or hear him say blacks are superior to whites I can’t say he discriminates or is a racist.
Interesting dynamic at play. White folks aren’t accustomed to having this type of dialouge and although I know it’s uncomfortable it’s the discussion that must be had. Non-whites don’t think it’s all that far fetched to say the government is run by rich white people that don’t care about people of color.
Just look at Katrina.
Now, that’s not to say EVERY white person falls into that bucket or even the majority but that generalization wouldn’t be viewed as racist by most people of color.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
David,
It was HILLARY who told the Canadians not to worry about her NAFTA rhetorics, NOT Obama!!! It is called Nafta-gate in Canada and investigations are ongoing now in Canada. It has something to do with the Canadian Ambassador to the US. Please READ these 2 articles here:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/reportsfromabroad/macdonald/20080310.html
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080311.wnafta0311/BNStory/International/home
It was Hillary who lied, as was even revealed today from her WH papers.
Posted by: kayayo | March 20, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Obama, the so called uniter, has been setting race relations back 50 years. He seems to be doing it on a weekly installment plan. In today’s chapter, which occurred on station WIP in Philadelphia, he spoke of typical white behavior. I cannot imagine any other candidate remaining in a political race with this type of baggage. Talk show hosts have been removed for less.
Posted by: sitting1 | March 20, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Obama’s chickens are comin home to roost,…
WASHINGTON (CNN) – Hillary Clinton has reclaimed the lead from Barack Obama in the Democratic presidential race for the first time since early February, a new national poll out Thursday suggests.
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Syl [WROTE] | Mar 20, 2008 8:11:38
==================
…”However, I believe Obama will get another chance because the generation of folks that support him will be more influential in 4-8 years…”
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…&…. OBAMA will be more, much more politically mature!…he is so smart, in tune to america to be otherwise..
…and in 4-8 years, he will outgrow his passive/aggressive, politically immature intelligence, which is now firmly focused on SOCIALISM (ayers, wright, davidson..&, his book-mentioned-mentor, “Frank”, which was Frank Marshall Davis (interesting why Obama didnt mention his full name in his book)..and AFRO-CENTRICISM…
…yes..in 4-8 years Obama will be formidable…immensely formidable..
..after/IF he(and america) MATURES POLITICALLY…
my final $0.02…
Posted by: aw | March 20, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
Hillary better pray they don’t trace this passport breach back to her campaign.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
Why does the media continue to allow Hillary Clinton and her campaign to get away with
a) lying about her support for NAFTA and
b) her active participation in “conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as “The “Fellowship,” also known as The Family”?????
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich
c) Why was it alright for her and Bill to invite Wright to the White House?
Why does the media keep allowing Hillary Clinton to get away with everything???
Posted by: Hadrien | March 20, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Jonathan “Doesn’t anyone have the confidence to believe that by NOVEMBER, 8 MONTHS that democrats won’t be affected by the sensational rev wright story after its been shoved down our throats already?”
Yes in a few weeks this will subside and Democrats will close their eyes and pretend it never happend. But come October Republicans particularly 527 groups like swift boters will bring it back with a vengence and never let up.
Posted by: satish | March 20, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Clinton had a lot of reasons to be front runner. There were a lot of others. Remember the inevitable and invincible? Well, that did not go through. Then, experienced? Well, they also acknowldge Obama is experienced enough. The latest one happened to be Mr. Wright. You know what, nobody really buy those arguements except her die-hard supporters. Those are die-hard supporters any way.
By the way, you think GOP will go easy with Hillary Clinton? I wouldn’t count on it. Check out her tax returns. I can visualize ads “Even Hillary herself admitted that McCain is more qualified as the commander-in-chief”. Hmmm, what can Hillary say? “Had I known then what I know now, I would not have said that”!
Hillary, it is time that you announce your change of party affiliation and McCain may select you as his running mate.
Posted by: catiger | March 20, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
A McCain campaign aide has been caught actively pushed an incendiary, racially-charged video that uses the controversial words of Barack Obama’s pastor to tar Obama as unpatriotic — despite the fact that McCain himself has suggested that Obama shouldn’t be held accountable for Wright’s views. http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/mccain_aide_actively_pushed_ra.php
Posted by: jock59801 | March 20, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Syl,
I agree with you 100%. I was a democrat for most of my adult life, 8 years ago, I decided I could not agree with the dems any longer and voted for Bush. When I had a choice between Gore and Bush, I couldn’t vote for Gore. So I feel partially responsible for where we are today..lol.
I had made up my mind early on to vote for Obama, and I did. He was the firt democratic candidate to come across as being above all the crap.
He has attracted young voters in numbers that I have never seen and most of them will continue to vote for him. I just can’t do it now.
I don’t want to believe any of the crap I am hearing, but I have heard it and some of it has put doubt in my mind.
I’m not sure I can put up with 4 to 8 more years of Clinton drama, so I guess I will be voting for McCain and hoping for the best.
Posted by: redraz9 | March 20, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
If you follow the news you would know that Drudge Report has been working with the Obama camp for sometime.
Posted by: sitting1 | March 20, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
I guess the Obama campaign was right, she will do anything to win. Shame on you Mrs. Clinton, shame on you.
Posted by: Jennifer | March 20, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Well, welll, well….Looks like that DEMON of a man was called a “friend” by President Clinton in 1998.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
Of course they’re pushing it. . . they’ll use anything they can to try and win. Meanwhile, the media’s giving them a free ride on so many things.
Posted by: JW | March 20, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Jonathan “Doesn’t anyone have the confidence to believe that by NOVEMBER, 8 MONTHS that democrats won’t be affected by the sensational rev wright story after its been shoved down our throats already?”
Yes in a few weeks this will subside and Democrats will close their eyes and pretend it never happend. But come October Republicans particularly 527 groups like swift boters will bring it back with a vengence and never let up.
Posted by: satish | March 20, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
I am your typical white person, Obama you insulted me today! You have lied to me several times. Hillary will be the democratic pres. because you will drop out because of your associations, judgement, lies and inexperience, and you need to get out now before I have to add shame to the list.
Posted by: D | March 20, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
redraz9: “When I had a choice between Gore and Bush, I couldn’t vote for Gore. ”
I bet you also voted for Bush in 2004. A poor victim of GOP spinning machine. This time, it is no different.
I don’t think you actually learned from your mistake. Go slightly deeper than sound bites, fellow!
Posted by: catiger | March 20, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Obamamaniacs, read the “breaking DRUDGE”..
“A similar data breach took place in 1992 when State Department officials looked up data on presidential candidate Bill Clinton, in an attempt to find out information from the late 1960s, amid unfounded political campaign rumors that Mr. Clinton had sought to renounce his citizenship to dodge the draft during the Vietnam War while a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford. ”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080320/NATION/541139809/1001
SHEEESH!!!….
you all OBAMANIACS are trully Chavista’s , who probably send valentine/christmas cards to cindy sheehan..
SHEESH!
Posted by: aw | March 20, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Redraz, you sound like we traveled the same path…to an election I did exactly the same thing.
What a coincidence. I guess being independent can also stir up patterns.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
D: “I am your typical white person, Obama you insulted me today! ”
What is this yelling and screaming all about? Let’s face it, you would never vote for him anyway. Why your opinion matters? A twisted soul!
Posted by: catiger | March 20, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Pastor Wright’s comments would have gotten a fiery outspoken Jew crucified 2000 years ago. Since that time, Christianity has transformed itself from a religion of conscious objection to one of fascist conformity. We all need to re-examine what it is we are really practicing. Religion ceases to be a religion when it is in lock-step with nationalism and government policies. Somehow we have been tricked into thinking that it should be. What a pity.
This Chicago pastor is an ex US Marine who served his country valiantly. He grew up during the turbulent ’60s and carries a lot of the bitterness that he and his family had to endure during an ugly time in American history. Those who say that Barack Obama should have left his church are hypocrites. How many Catholics left the church after finding out about the rampant instances of child molestation? How many Catholics left the church after finding out that the Pope, Cardinal Ratzinger, was a member of the Nazi Youth Party? How many first ladies left their husbands after discovering that he was having sex with young women while she and her daughter were upstairs sleeping? Instead they would say that it was in the shameful past and use the words of Jesus:”condemn the sin, not the sinner.”
I honestly feel that Barack Obama is making a bigger influence on Pastor Wright than the other way around. The bible tells us to shine our light where it is darkest.
We are all racists in some sort of way. And by that I mean that we are not sociologically perfect in our perception of society. And this flawed perception is bound to offend others sooner or later. I am glad that Barack Obama made this speech; not for political reasons, but for American reasons. Too many Americans are begging politicians to lie to them. Thanks for telling the truth, Senator Obama. Above everything else, I support Barack Obama the man, Barack Obama the American. His story is our story. Some people insist on living in dreamy delusion without noticing the truth in front of them. Fortunately, many of us are awake and refuse to ever sleep again
Posted by: Emanuel | March 20, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
you are so right catiger, and I will spend every day reminding you clueless B.O. supporters are.
Posted by: D | March 20, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
I’m just waiting for Hillary to say, “So?” And then I will know without a doubt that she is a Cheney clone–until then I will just suspect–As far as slinging mud? How could anyone ever think that? Not after NAFTA when half of the country still doesn’t get it that is was her camp that gave the wink and nod to Canada (See http://www.factchecker.org OR the Canadian Globe Mail) Not after Bill, who started the race deal in S.C. Not after the just released Clinton papers that showed her in a closed press meeting supporting NAFTA to a group of 150 business women–No…Hillary would never do that–(Sarcasm being used)
Posted by: DQuinn | March 20, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
D: “you are so right catiger, and I will spend every day reminding you clueless B.O. supporters are.”
Wooo, that’s scaaaaaary!!
Posted by: catiger | March 20, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
I hope Hillary is pushing the story. We must not forget, who Obama chooses to befriend. We must take a look at the some more. Obama has not completley explained why the black comm. will not let go of there hatred and explain why his community does not take responabilty for there own lives. For the choices they make. And why he would say his grandma is the typical white woman. And why it is okay for the black comm. to say something like that. And if I as a white man would say that then i am a racist. WHY. I believe the black comm will not let go of the slavery issue which alot of white people risk and died to help free them. And why they choose not to get an education and choose to sell drugs on the street. Like the old saying there is no easier softer way.It seems to me that the some of the black comm. All week i can hear and see the anger of the black comm. Well we whites are angry too. I am tired of the excuses that some blacks use to get away from not taking responabilty for there action and blaming everyone else for there misery. Does racism really happen yes. Do I like it? hell no. But don’t hate me for some people’s hatred. It’s not who i am. greg
Posted by: greg | March 20, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
Barack and Hillary are running for the commander in chief position not GOD. When you get to their position there is no way all their dealings, friends, associates etc… will slways be 100% pure. They are people too and have weakness just like the rest of us. I think the smart voters were look at the whole picture and see which of the two will do a better job for the country.
Posted by: jaime | March 20, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Obama is done, well. He should have thrown this guy under the bus without delay but he did not. He knew all along that this guy was a loose screw. This is like Hillary going to a KKK rally and knowing the Grand
Dragon, she would be gone then also, but Obama got some bad advice on this one and it will probably cost him the nomination.
Posted by: stan | March 20, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
I believe that Obama’s speech was pretty good, although he could have probably used a couple of more flags on stage. If he wants to make a bigger impact next time, his handlers should dress him up as Uncle Sam or even Abe Lincoln.
Just my opinion.
Posted by: OhWell | March 20, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Obama refuse to have a re-vote in Michigan and Florida. He knew that he would lose on those two states. He may win the battle but never the war. He does not have a chance in November.
Majority of those voted for him in the primary will not vote for him if they hear Obama’s close friend, Rev. Wright’s preach. He can have the 100% black vote (20% of American population) and maybe additional 10% ignorant people. It is going to be a landslide for Republican.
I could not understand why Obama labeled himself for the future, yet his speech about race is mostly in the past. He believe that Rev. Wright was ok because that more than 100 years ago, white held black as slaves.
I never see people’s color, I only see there action. I, as an Asian minority, never felt people see my color. They only hear my words and see my action. I am a budhist. I meditate for peace. I never go to church so I can not imagine that there are churches preaching hatred.
What you believe makes the reality. Sad reality for people believe hatred.
Posted by: Claire C | March 20, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
Man you unintelligent, lets get to the facts if there is still a housing (real estate)issue how will Clinton combat that?
Posted by: revisited08 | March 20, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
This typical Independent voter will be voting McCain in November.
Bye-bye Obama!
Posted by: A Typical Independent Voter | March 20, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Why shouldn’t the Clinton camp talk about the Wright story? Everyone is. Whether or not you and others fully acknowledge the impact of this story, for whatever reasons, people on the street have been shaken by it as has Obama himself. The Wright story has damaged Obama beyond the point of being able to be elected in November. Every day it gets worse. Today he said his grandmother was “just a typical white person”. He’s done. Don’t you see that yet?
Posted by: hopesprings52 | March 20, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
“Neil in Canada”: People are angry thus their emotions come to the forefront before anything else. So, your post is a bit prejudged regarding American voters. I’m American. Lived, work and studied in both Europe and Asia (raised in the U.S.). I’ve seen the damage done by our current administration not just to our nation’s int’l image but to our domestic concerns as well. To judge a society in the midst of a frustrating debate where (possible) leadership changeover is occuring is wholly naive.
Posted by: lotsa bossa nova | March 20, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
LOOK LETS GET BACK TO POLITICS, BECAUSE IT IS OBVIOUS THAT US AS BLACKS AND WHITES DISAGREE, LIFE WILL JUST HAVE TO TEACH YOU, WE HAVE DONE OUR PART! WHAT WILL CLINTON DO AS FAR AS BOOSTING THE SELL OF REAL ESTATE!
Posted by: revisited08 | March 20, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
AW:
So are you suggesting the Bush administration is behind the passport breach?
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Ugh! chickens coming home to roost needs to stay with the Obamas since he is the one who has condoned Wright and cannot disown him!
Posted by: Voter | March 20, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
What will Clinton do as President that would be so great? Why should I vote for her!
Posted by: revisited08 | March 20, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
“Typical White Female,”
I appreciate both your 7:34p post re: Bill Cosby and his comments & your 8:07p post. As Gandhi stated, “An Eye For An Eye, Makes The Whole World Blind.”
I’m part Black myself. Yet I’ve always considered myself American — especially after living abroad. There’s good and bad w/all countries. Yet, truly, this is one of the more tolerant. And, as a female who worked for a Japanese co. for 2 yrs in Tokyo, I learned from being in the fire. However, there does seem to be a negative tone present in this election process unfortunately. It’s politics so I guess it’s to be expected.
Sen. Obama is a man, a candidate for POTUS. Sen. Clinton is a woman, a candidate for POTUS. And, although their separate life paths leading to this day are vastly different, it is sad we cannot reflect upon that in a more mature and less hostile manner. I respect Sen. Clinton. She accomplished a lot while w/the Children’s Defense Fund and beyond. Sen. Obama has his positives and flaws as well.
Yet, the fact remains he comes off as arrogant to some and has just in too many instances displaying a strong undercurrent of sexism. From his Pastor (referencing Natalee Holloway and Monica Lewinsky) to his statement concerning his grandmother and several other factors too long to elaborate. As an independent voter, I do hope we can somehow come together and reasonably and rationally select a president. But, it seems respect for now is out the door.
Posted by: lotsa bossa nova | March 20, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
Oh my gosh! Obama on Larry King. He plans to go to Iraq once elected. Boy, this guy is deluded! It’s so hard to listen to him talk about his proposals. Why is he wasting his, Larry King’s and our time? It’ over.
Posted by: s. valenti | March 20, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Oh my gosh! Obama on Larry King. He plans to go to Iraq once elected. Boy, this guy is deluded! It’s so hard to listen to him talk about his proposals. Why is he wasting his, Larry King’s and our time? It’ over.
Posted by: s. valenti | March 20, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
THANK YOU HILLIARY FOR HAVING THE GUTS TO PUSH THIS STORY. SOMEONE NEEDS TOO. THE PRESS ARE SO IN LOVE WITH OBAMA LIKE OLBERMAN AND MATHEWS, THEY WILL NEVER TELL THE WHOLE STORY. THIS MAY IS A LIAR AND A FRAUD. WAKE UP PEOPLE. OBAMA\WRIGHT OR BUSH\CHENEY. NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE EXCEPT THE LATTER WAS TO STUPID TO PULL IT OFF. OBAMA ON THE OTHER HAND JUST MIGHT BE. AN OBAMA NOMINATION MEANS 4 MORE YEARS OF MCBUSH AND CHELIEBERMAN. OBAMA IS NO LONGER ELECTABLE. HE WILL BE SWIFTBOATED LIKE KERRY.
Posted by: JIMT | March 20, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
You have to wonder why the President would invite a “racist” anti American figure to the White House not once, but twice and call him a “friend”.
That’s interesting.
I don’t generally call evil people “friend”…what about you Bob?
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Claire, don’t swallow everything Hillary tells you without question. It is not Obama’s fault and he has not “refuse[d] to have a re-vote in Michigan and Florida”. It is one of Hillary’s desperate lies. She said earlier that she knew those votes would not count. She agreed that the votes should not count, and signed to it when the DNC meted out the punishment. Now, she is changing her position. How come Obama’s name was not on the ballot in Michigan and why did Hillary not campaign in Michigan? Think about this, Claire!
Posted by: kayayo | March 20, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Interest. . .and now it is coming out that McCain’s campaign deliberately SOUGHT OUT the ENDORSEMENT of controversial evangelical John Hagee, and a member of his campaign has been dismissed for deliberately trying to push a hate video on the Wright situation.
So much for McCain’s contention that appearing on a stage with the Anti-American hate minister was just a nicety, and that he has no control over those who endorse him. His campaign deliberately wanted that endorsement.
See Editor and Publisher.
Posted by: kevinbgoode | March 20, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
And why shouldn’t Hillary push the Wright story? Should we all just sweep it under the rug and pretend it doesn’t exist, and keep covering up for Obama and his choices which make him who he is? Is this the kind of “confronting the problems” he speaks about, tiptoe-ing around issues, not talking about these things lest we offend, or damage his path to the nomination. I’m really tired of this (again). I really thought the Obama supporters would have woken up after the last three (especially after Wright) revelations of truth, where he was caught lying, not practicing what he preached. Wake up before it’s too late. We know Hillary, we won’t find anything shocking or new. Let’s nominate her!
Posted by: mara marks | March 20, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
National Public Radio just did a short broadcast on the Obama speech. They basically said that it was eloquent
but held nothing new. They also said that he did not distance himself from
Wright and that was a mistake. It would help with his core supporters but that would be about it. You can probably find it on NPR.com
Posted by: Biker N Az | March 20, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Hillary herself probably knows her camp is promoting this story, although we probably never will know for sure cause she will always DENY it. But true to every other attempt she has made to be sure she “wins” this race, she winks and nods her approvcal to any disingenuous thing her supporters do. She is so transparant it’s amazing to me how she got this far, but then, I have read where she gets most of her support.
Posted by: of course she is! | March 20, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Obama, on Larry King.. I almost feel sorry for him. A rehash of all his empty words. “same old politics” – But, what he doesn’t say is how his campaign has been churning out “talking points” daily like: Clinton’s real involvement in the SCHIPS plan (Obama lied); Insinuations about Republicans voting in Democratic Primaries in Texas and Ohio (wait a second: doesn’t his campaign object to the fact that republicans won’t be able to vote a second time in a revote in Michigan!). I live in Boston. Daily, we’ve had a barrage of misinformation about Clinton. I don’t think the Boston Globe has the resources to pull this garbage together, but Obama’s campaign does and spread it all over the country to the liberal media who re-churn it out as though it’s their own.
Posted by: s. valenti | March 20, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
Are you kidding me? You don’t have to push this stuff it’s a snowball.
What’s pushing it is this man still in the campaign acting as if everything is ok.
Posted by: John | March 20, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
I wish Larry King would ask him about the teleprompter the other day. If this was heartfelt and personally written, I find it hard to believe he’d need a teleprompter.
Posted by: s. valenti | March 20, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
I wish Larry King would ask him about the teleprompter the other day. If this was heartfelt and personally written, I find it hard to believe he’d need a teleprompter.
Posted by: s. valenti | March 20, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Mara, I agree that if I were in Hillary’s position I would push this story but I would do it factually. If she would do that she could honestly convince the Obama supporters that this is just a flaw that deserves attention.
The problem is…anyone that has researched Rev. Wright (and only few have) knows that he is not the hateful anti American they’ve made him out to be.
If Hillary could speak truthfully about what’s holding up the MI and FL re-vote instead of misprepresenting the facts and saying Senator Obama is the cause when the fact is she rejected his proposal and she rejected his.
Those are the things that are splitting the Democrats. Not the disdain for Hillary or the belief that the candidates are going to be that different in office in terms of policy. The only differentiator is character and depending on whom you support you will make your own determination.
Ultimately, the Dem’s are going to pay the price.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
S. Valenti, do you really think Obama’s campaign in the midst of this issue has the time to reach out to the Boston Globe? Sorry, but I just don’t think Boston is the targeted audience these days.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Gee, if Obama’s scandal hadn’t surfaced, he would have loved to shoot the breeze with L. King about what a charming wife he has and about all the change he has in store for us when he wins the election. Too bad he had such bad judgement to remain in a racist, divisive, conspiracy laden church for 20 years. He can’t seem to “change the channel”.
Posted by: s. valenti | March 20, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Gee, if Obama’s scandal hadn’t surfaced, he would have loved to shoot the breeze with L. King about what a charming wife he has and about all the change he has in store for us when he wins the election. Too bad he had such bad judgement to remain in a racist, divisive, conspiracy laden church for 20 years. He can’t seem to “change the channel”.
Posted by: s. valenti | March 20, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
I am going to write one more post and then I am done. Too much of this gives me a headache!
The only way to start healing the racial divide in this country is to end the hateful, racially divissive speech that I have seen from the beginning of this campaign.
Their is racism on both sides and to my race, the solution is simple. For whites, the solution is for blacks to to get rid of the chip on their shoulders. To stop living on past hurts and take control of your future.
Having said that, I am not sure how African Americans feel. I would be very interested in an answer to that question. I would like to know what we can do or say that will take away the pain your ancestors went through.
That is the dialogue that needs to be started. It needs to be carried on with hatred or anger. Until that happens…..nothing changes and Obama does not become president.
I hope what I said did not offend anyone, it was not my intention.
I’m just a working mother trying to leave the world a better place for my children.
Posted by: redraz9 | March 20, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
I feel the senator explained very well why he remained faithful to his church, while not agreeing with the sentiments expressed in those clips (culled from twenty years of sermons.) It embarasses me (a middle class white American) that people can be so stuck on this issue and not be concerned about the country as a whole, and the real problems facing us – all under the guise of indignant “patriotism”.
Posted by: TJaAW | March 20, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
I feel the senator explained very well why he remained faithful to his church, while not agreeing with the sentiments expressed in those clips (culled from twenty years of sermons.) It embarasses me (a middle class white American) that people can be so stuck on this issue and not be concerned about the country as a whole, and the real problems facing us – all under the guise of indignant “patriotism”.
Posted by: TJaAW | March 20, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Obama wants us to know that the United Church of Christ is 99% white nationally. I have no issue with the UCC. I have an issue with a presidential candidate exercising poor judgement in standing by a pastor who spewed hate for over 20 years.
Posted by: s. valenti | March 20, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Obama wants us to know that the United Church of Christ is 99% white nationally. I have no issue with the UCC. I have an issue with a presidential candidate exercising poor judgement in standing by a pastor who spewed hate for over 20 years.
Posted by: s. valenti | March 20, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
s.valenti,
Did Bush and Cheney go to Iraq or not? As a matter of fact, Cheney was there recently. What is wrong with Obama going to Iraq as President?
Posted by: kayayo | March 20, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Redraz, let’s stay in touch. Deal?
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Obama wishes we had spent the last week talking about important issues like health care. Yes, that would have been great if he hadn’t had the stunning bad judgement to associate himself for 20 years with a racist, paranoid pastor. Then, had to “explain” his bad judgement. Then, feel forced to teach us about the history and status of race relations to try to obscure the fact that he didn’t tell the truth about what he knew and the longstanding relationship itself.
Posted by: s. valenti | March 20, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
Obama wishes we had spent the last week talking about important issues like health care. Yes, that would have been great if he hadn’t had the stunning bad judgement to associate himself for 20 years with a racist, paranoid pastor. Then, had to “explain” his bad judgement. Then, feel forced to teach us about the history and status of race relations to try to obscure the fact that he didn’t tell the truth about what he knew and the longstanding relationship itself.
Posted by: s. valenti | March 20, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
S. Valenti, OK so you just want to make stuff up so I’m going to leave you to that exercise. Good luck with that.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
The Senator needed to admit that using the phrase, “typical white woman” was a poor choice of words and wrong. It’s obvious that it was intended to be a derogatory comment about his grandmother.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
All African Americans are not Wright followers. They feel a sense of distaste and shame to see one of their own behave in this manner. There is also a sense of bewilderment with Obama’s behaviour in staying in a church like that for so long. Just because Wright is black it does not meant that he has the unconditional support of African Americans. So people who say that African Americans will not support Hillary because of this are sorely mistaken. They are just hoping for this so according to their logic, Obama will get that vote. So very wrong!! Same logic as Obama’s grandma story. How weak it is!!
Posted by: Voter | March 20, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
All African Americans are not Wright followers. They feel a sense of distaste and shame to see one of their own behave in this manner. There is also a sense of bewilderment with Obama’s behaviour in staying in a church like that for so long. Just because Wright is black it does not meant that he has the unconditional support of African Americans. So people who say that African Americans will not support Hillary because of this are sorely mistaken. They are just hoping for this so according to their logic, Obama will get that vote. So very wrong!! Same logic as Obama’s grandma story. How weak it is!!
Posted by: Voter | March 20, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
I am surprise that Obama is placing his grandmother under the bus for Rev. Wright. What is a “just a typical white person”. Someone needs to ask him to define ‘just a typical white person” How Obama talks about the grandmother is how he feels about white people. It appears that the pastor has impacted Obama’s thinking. I am black and I would not talk about my grandmother as Obama did and going.
Posted by: suzelee | March 20, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
All African Americans are not Wright followers. They feel a sense of distaste and shame to see one of their own behave in this manner. There is also a sense of bewilderment with Obama’s behaviour in staying in a church like that for so long. Just because Wright is black it does not meant that he has the unconditional support of African Americans. So people who say that African Americans will not support Hillary because of this are sorely mistaken. They are just hoping for this so according to their logic, Obama will get that vote. So very wrong!! Same logic as Obama’s grandma story. How weak it is!!
Posted by: Voter | March 20, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
WE AS BLACKS ALWAYS HAVE TO TURN THE OTHER CHEEK, I AM SO TIRED OF US AS A PEOPLE TURNING THE OTHER CHEEK! AND WHAT GETS ME UPSET IS THE FACT THAT “WHITE PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY SHAME ON YOU, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO LOVE US AND ACCEPT US” WE HAVE TO ALWAYS LOOK OUT FOR THERE DAMN INTEREST, THEY DONT KNOW THE FEELING AT ALL, DAMN IT, SEGREGATION ONLY ENDED IN 1968! 40 YEARS AGO, YOU CANNOT COMPARE 40 YEARS TO HUNDREDS OF YEARS OF HATE FROM THERE SIDE, I DONT SEE ANY ONE OF THEM REACHING OUT IN HERE! f@#$ AND OUR HATE WILL GET STRONGER FOR ALL OF YOU RACIST WHITES AND IT WILL ONLY MAKE IT WORST FOR RACIST WHITE AMERICA, BECAUSE WE KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOOD WHITE FRIENDS AND RACIST WHITES LIKE WHAT I SEE IN HERE!
Posted by: revisited08 | March 20, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Now the 3rd or perhaps 4th iteration about his comments about his grandmother. Ohhhhhhhhh! “I love her as much as I love anybody. She raised me.” Oh my gosh! Though not pertinent, my grandmother and grandfather raised me for two years. I loved them more than anybody and fiercely. They provided refuge from a chaotic, noisy household (keep in mind unlike Obama, I’m not invading the deserved privacy of my family of origin – I wouldn’t do that even to make my point for I loved my parents too). My grandparents championed me, I hold them responsible for everything good that’s happened to me.
I’ll never understand how he exploited his grandmother to make a point. Cnn made its own point by showing him in a split screen while it replayed those embarrassing remarks.
Posted by: s. valenti | March 20, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Now the 3rd or perhaps 4th iteration about his comments about his grandmother. Ohhhhhhhhh! “I love her as much as I love anybody. She raised me.” Oh my gosh! Though not pertinent, my grandmother and grandfather raised me for two years. I loved them more than anybody and fiercely. They provided refuge from a chaotic, noisy household (keep in mind unlike Obama, I’m not invading the deserved privacy of my family of origin – I wouldn’t do that even to make my point for I loved my parents too). My grandparents championed me, I hold them responsible for everything good that’s happened to me.
I’ll never understand how he exploited his grandmother to make a point. Cnn made its own point by showing him in a split screen while it replayed those embarrassing remarks.
Posted by: s. valenti | March 20, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
So, when Clinton does something she’s to blame.
And when Obama makes a bone headed rookie mistake, Clinton is to blame.
Gotcha!
It’s amazing how Clinton has to take on her sins and the sins of her opponent.
If she says something, she’s damned…if she doesn’t say anything she’s damned.
You people are very transparent with this crap.
Posted by: Miss Malevolent | March 20, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
“Typical white people” don’t sit in a church pew with our children listening to race-based hate every week, year after year. However, it’s apparently quite typical for Jeremiah Wright and his parishioners to hate white people and blame them for creating the AIDS virus to kill blacks. It’s also typical to hate America. What exactly has Obama done to change the tenor of race relations? Nothing. He did nothing about his mentor and spiritual advisor, even tough he claims Wright’s positions were horrible. Now he says in the Larry King interview that: Americans need a little less rhetoric and a little less spin.” You’re absolutely right, Obama. We need a lot less of your rhetoric and your spin.
Posted by: Emily | March 20, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
she should push this story
If BHO is the nominee, don’t you think the republicans will beat him about the head w/ this …… non-stop !!!!
There is no way in hell he can win NOW
Dems you need to face it
Reb
Posted by: rebelwocuz | March 20, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
interesting that ABCNews and other media outlets aren’t even thinking of touching the Clinton’s or McCain’s bagage in the same way they are doing so to Obama.
Kyle, that is just the point. They are not touching it because Hillary was all ready vetted. (OLD NEWS) The Republicans put her through the wringer for the past 16 years so they do not have as much new ammo to throw at her. Obama, on the other hand is fresh meat which was proven this week and only the beginning.
Posted by: tiredofit | March 20, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
Syl
OK……my email is redraz99@yahoo.com. If anyone else wants to send me crazy emails, I will just delete them….
Goodnight All and God Bless America
Posted by: redraz9 | March 20, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
I wrote this message many week ago and now I understand what type of grassroot supporters Obama is trying to deveoped and why most of his supporters are acting this why.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I am African American and I can not mention that I support Hillary without being called many bad names. I wanted a Hillary/Obama ticket, now I do not support Obama on the ticket if Hillary wins because African Americans are not ready for an Africa American president. It is really bad on the street if you are black and support Hillary. I understand why John Lewis has to switch to Obama but I lost a little respect for him because of it. To be safe, my friends and I do not talk about Hillary anymore around some of our African American friends; we just donate money to her and know we will vote her. Obama needs to make a public statement and tell his supporters to chill. I donated more money this weekend to Hillary. P.S. my biggest concern, what if Obama wins? Will it be a crime to questions him and his actions while he is in the White House. I heard on several black talk radio stations, all the hosts and callers stating that the White people better much sure nothings happen to Obama while his running for office or if he wins the White House. I hate to say this but the sound like the KKK but only black. This is sad to hear all the negative words and actions from Obama’s supporters. If Obama makes people act so crazy than I do not want him in the White House or on the ticket with Hillary. Major of the Obama’s supporters do not want a Hillary/Obama or Obama/Hillary ticket. I hope something change so we can have a Hillary/Obama ticket.
Posted by: sj7465 | March 20, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
Yes Hillary is doing whatever she can to try to win, who isn’t?
I think she has legitimate case to raise question about Obama’s electibility (especially based on his background with Rev. Wright). To the Democratic party, the goal is to win the White House to Democrat side. And Obama/Wright debacle raise serious questions because he has lost majority of Indepedents and many White voters.
Posted by: Dao | March 20, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Anderson Cooper is all hot and bothered by reports from the Obama campaign that Obama’s passport records were breached by three low level contract employees working at the state department. This is a big story? Give me a break! Most likely, it’s a couple of starry eyed Obama supporters looking up private information about their idol. Oh my gosh, so much private information they could have exploited – his SS# – imagine anyone trying to pass themselves off using probably the most recognizable, unique name in the country. I wonder if they would have signed up for VISA using his middle name! (that’s a joke – no racist intent at all, I promise.)
This situation does not at all compare with the high level breach that occurred back in the early 90′s. Oh my gosh, now Anderson Cooper is speculating that Clinton’s campaign may have been behind it. This republican administration is not known for awarding contracts to democratic connected firms.
Posted by: s. valenti | March 20, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
I am a white man and I have no black friends and am not involved with a black woman and don’t go to a black church. I don’t live in a black neighborhood as a matter of fact there are very few black people where I live. MY QUESTION IS… WHAT IS WRONG WITH BEING AS TYPICAL WHITE PERSON?
Posted by: kelly | March 20, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
I”m not a typical white person, I’m your average honky.
Posted by: Biker N Az | March 20, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
As a black man I am hurt to see that this much division is still an issue. But I have to say that Rev. Wright brought it onto us with his hateful preaching. I think it’s important for everyone to understand that not all black churches are like this and there is no reason why what he has said should be accepetable. I hoped that Obama could be our next president. But now he is unelectable.
Posted by: lou | March 20, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Years ago, when I was visiting my Mom,
she said to me regarding Hillary Clinton
“That woman is truly evil ” ! Not knowing much about Hillary, I merely shrugged and went on with what I was doing. Well Mom..I know you’re not here anymore but I just want you to know…
YOU WERE SOO RIGHT !
Posted by: marsha | March 20, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
How is Bill Clinton’s tangential aquaintance with the Jeremiah Wright equivalent to Barrack Obama sitting in his church and listening to his hate filled sermons for twenty years??? You can be sure that Wright didn’t spew his anti-American blather to president Clinton when he met him.
Posted by: Emily | March 20, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
I cannot fathom how Obama supporters can continue to support him when his honesty, judgement and credibility is much in question with the Jeremiah Wright issue. He flatly lies about saying that he hasn’t heard any of this bigotry. Who would believe him when he’s been with that church for over 20 years? That is a big question on his honesty. Claiming not to see this kind of racism is also a question on his judgement. This man is a buffoon, not worthy of the presidency. HIllary is going to win, Obama’s so tainted badly TAINTED!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: swissdiver | March 20, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Ed,
I love your headlines!! It was tough to chose, but I think this one is my favorite: “Hate-Speech is Fine, as Long as You’re Really Angry.”
Well done.
Posted by: Emily | March 20, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Hillary Radom Clinton – The 44th President of the United States
… It’s was inevitable…
Bill Clinton – The 42nd President… he’s back in the White House… You have to love this guy… 8 more… 2008 thru 2016!!!
It’s going to happen… accept it…
Posted by: Vitodude | March 20, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Only thing I accept is that McCain has an easy Victory. Hillary and Obama do nothing but battle each other.
Posted by: pathlo | March 20, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Janet,
Obama also wrote In his book, Dreams From My Father, that he worked diligently to “separate” himself from his white mother and grandparents. He didn’t want anyone to “perceive him as white.” The same wedge he drove between himself and his maternal relatives is the one he’s driving now between his camp and everyone else who refuses to believe his hype.
Hillary 08
Posted by: Emily | March 20, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
Hillary is right. They know Obama is going to get destroyed and even if he is on the ticket either as President or Vice President, the DEMOCRATS WILL LOOSE.
Clinton campaign doesn’t have to push the story, heck they have ABC and Fox News to do that.
Rev. Wright with his own seeking glory is destroying Obama. Obama should have done like Oprah and left after 2 or 3 years.
Obama like Rev. Wright. He was a father to him. Well, his chickens have come home to roost.
Posted by: Knowledgeforreal | March 20, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
If this is true that she is pushing this story then I think it says a lot about the kind of person she really is. She is not concerned about the well being of the people. She is most concerned about her need to excel. She is not what I want as a President.
Wake up people…Obama is not perfect but he is and will work for good of the country. Hillary will work for the good of Hillary.
Posted by: VanLear | March 20, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
I don’t understand why the economy is said to Clinton’s issue…. Her base are poor or lower income, uneducated (as to higher education) people … why would she do anything for those people and cut into her base?
Posted by: AC | March 20, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
We live in a pathetic country, where race still matters. Not the economy. Not affordable health care. Not a decent education. Not unemployment. Just race. And as for dumping on Reverend Jeremiah Wright and Minister Louis Farrakhan, what about them? At least, the two have the testicular fortitude to address America’s hatred towards other races and religious beliefs. The GOP believes that God belongs to them. Such hyocrites. People like Sean Hannity, Col. Oliver North (a national disgrace), Ann Coulter, Robert Novak, Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, the entire Fox News Channel (among others) really do need to give a life. 3,992 U.S. casaulties, and counting. An ill-planned war, a ridiculous deficit, and the Bush administration. Senator Obama’s personal information has been breached. You have crossed the line. I cannot, and will not, respect a country who accepts such vile behavior towards her own citizens. Like I have said in the past, we do not need another Clinton White House, nor a third Bush term. We need change, and Senator Obama will display it. After eight years of living in hell, we need some “heavenly” intervention. Before you judge Senator Obama and his association with his mentor, judge yourself. It is apparent that this administration is more concern about the Iraqi royalties than its own struggling citizens. Go Obama in ’08. We cannot do any worse under an Obama administration. Amen.
Posted by: Paul Alexander Flagge | March 20, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
Folks McCain is your next President. Thanks Hillary!
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Janet, are these excerpts supposed to prove something? Senator Obama’s book was on the best seller list for weeks so I don’t think you are sharing any new revelations.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Jeremiah Wright, Farrakhan, Black Panther, Al Sharpton, Jesse White, Oprah, Michelle Obama… THESE ARE ALL RACIST BIGOTS!!! His gullible, dimwit supporters just swoon and drool in awe at his lies and misrepresentations. This man has no plan for America. His pretext of change will turn America into an inner city GHETTO!!!Get it?
Posted by: Troy, Chicago | March 20, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Hillary should be explaining why, did her husband, Bill Clinton invite Rev. Wright to the White House twice.He was good enough for them in Washington.So why is she trying to push anything.
Posted by: Misglo | March 20, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
“REVEREND” WRIGHT? You don’t call a bigot like him Reverend. He’s an idiot with cult-like parishoners like Obama who has no business running for the presidency. Obama would be better off sitting in his church’s pew, maybe he’ll finally hear his pastor spew hatred and bigotry that he hasn’t heard of in over 20 years. Then he can pretend to be upset & quit and exit church.
Posted by: swissdiver | March 20, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
This woman will play every low-life trick in the book to get the nomination, and she knows them all. She is the most devious, immoral candidate that ever appeared on the modern American scene. Fortunately, for all he machinations, she will not prevail this time. Want to see BILL CLINTON with JEREMIAH WRIGHT go to Politico.com. He was with him to REPENT for his affair with Ms. Lewinsky.
Posted by: Randle Bate | March 20, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
Obama has made racial issues of primary importance during this leg of the presidential campaign, and at virtually any other time it suited his purposes. He’s responsible for the racial “divide” we’ve currently embroiled in. Hillary Clinton didn’t invent the unbridled-racist-anti-American “uncle,” Jeremiah Wright, and she didn’t need to “push the story” either. Obama has effectively done that all by himself. When it comes to being self-serving, hypocritical, deceptive, and judgmental, Obama is the champ.
HILLARY 08
Posted by: Emily | March 20, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
This story is just another lame attempt by the media to blame Hillary Clinton for Obama’s problems. It is amazing how shamelessly the media twists every nuance of this campaign to make it Hillary’s fault.
During the past few months, Obama has played the race card at EVERY opportunity to his political benefit. After all the slander aimed at Hillary Clinton, insinuating that she and her supporters are “racist”, it has been quite a revelation to find out what type of doctrine his pastor spews. For TWENTY years senator Obama has been indoctrinated by this type of divisive racist rhetoric. Is it any wonder that the “racist” slander he has leveled at the Clinton campaign is born from this toxic indoctrination? If someone like Hillary Clinton (a.k.a. the “monster”), who has devoted a lifetime of work to healing racial divides and helping the poor, isn’t safe from this type of slander, none of us are.
Obama is determined to steal this election one way or another. I am a life-long democrat, but if Obama steals this election by subverting the will of 2.5 million people in Florida and Michigan and whining about super delegates exercising their independent judgment as their very creation demands that they must, I will gladly cast my first ever vote for a republican. THE ENDS DO NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS.
How DARE Obama try to act as if his winning a contest is more important than abiding by the will of the people! This self-serving attitude is subversive and flat out UNAMERICAN.
Posted by: smyles | March 20, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Obama keeps it going with his inability to accept any responsibility and trying to shift blame and distract from the issue.
Posted by: John | March 20, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
WOW — Obama apologists now blame Hillary Clinton for exaggerating the OUTRAGEOUS statements made by Jeremiah Wright. You folks can crow about self-righteousness, but Mr. Obama has now lost the middle class white vote (and the Presidency) to John McCain.
Posted by: andescot | March 20, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
I wondered how long it would take the Obama campaign and the MSM to start blaming the Wright controversy on Hillary Clinton. It’s not the Clinton campaign keeping this story in the forefront, it’s the American public. There is no “damage control” for what we have learned of this divisive “mentor” of Obama, because all of America has access to those tapes, and we are appalled. There is no “damage control” for Obama’s sring of lies concerning the Rezko relationship, then the NAFTA fiasco, and finally Reverend Wright, as we all saw Obama on TV, lying, lying, lying. Obama and his campaign have played the “race card” since South Carolina, and if the race issue now turns around to bite him back, well, what goes around, comes around, Senator Obama.
Posted by: Grammy Barb | March 20, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
Well the majority of you on this blog were not going to vote for OBAMA ANY WAY so don’t act like you were neutral and all of a sudden you’re pro-hillary. Lets look at a few things here ED Rendell is campaigning hard in PA for Cllinton, Clinton is attacking OBAMA, Republicans are attacking OBAMA, the MEDIA is attacking OBAMA and the PARTY ELDERS ARE JUST LETTING THIS HAPPEN. Let me just say one thing to the working class about this distraction. FOUR YEARS AGO WE WERE DISCUSSING HOW JOHN KERRY FLIP FLOPPED ON ISSUES. NOW HOW MANY OF YOU THINK ABOUT JOHN KERRY’S FLIP FLOPS WHEN YOUR PAYING 3.60 A GALLON FOR GAS, WHEN YOUR FACING RECORD FORECLOSURE, WHEN NEW ORLEANS BASICALLY DROWNED, WHEN SOLDIERS WERE COMING BACK IN CASKETS, WHEN YOUR GETTING LAID OFF FROM WORK, WHEN THE STOCK MARKET HAS COLLASPED, WHEN CEO MAKE HUGE BONUS AT THE EXPENSE OF YOUR JOB. NOW WITH ALL THAT SAID HOW MANY OF YOU WILL BE THINKING ABOUT REVERNED WRIGHT IN FOUR YEARS.
LOOK PASS THESE STUPID RUSH LIMBAUGH, SEAN HANNITIY DISTRACTION AND LETS CHANGE THIS COUNTRY.
Posted by: john | March 20, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
john,
Some of us were always pro-Hillary, and were smart enough to see through Obama from the start. Some of us also knew that John Kerry was a nitwit, but he was the only democratic choice at the time. He isn’t anymore, and neither is Obama. Thank heavens!
Hillary 08
Posted by: Emily | March 20, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
Hillary Supporters, you rock!!!!!!!
It’s so great to see that so many people aren’t getting in line for their Obamabotomies (i.e., lobotomies) and are actually looking at the real issues and real experience that will be required to make real change.
Let’s climb this mountain with Hillary. She’s has demonstrated nothing but grace, grit, determination and boundless courage in the face of despicable slander and hate from the media, the Obama campaign, and republicans who are hoping against hope that they will be able to go against Obama in the G.E. If anyone can climb this mountain, it’s Hillary.
Posted by: sbear | March 20, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
I’m so tired of hearing these things from the Clintons. My personnel belief is that the Democratic leaders should broker a deal. Hillary and her campaign should tone things down. In exchange, Hillary will be the VP on the Democratic ticket.
Honestly, it’s the best thing for the party.
For the sake of America, we need the Democrats to unite. We can not afford to have a president who supports Bush economic policies.
Posted by: Dan | March 20, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
Obama has now been linked to another controversial pastor. Pastor Meeks a fierce supporter of Obama. Taped sermons and all for you Obamabots.
Posted by: richard | March 21, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
Hey, super delegates, now that the MSM has finally begun to vet Obama, something they shamelessly avoided doing before, what if the primary elections were held today? Do you think Obama would even be in the contest?
And what if the caucus states, who obviously disenfranchise the core Democratic base of lower income and older folks, had held primaries instead of caucuses. Do you think Obama would still be in the contest?
Posted by: Grammy Barb | March 21, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
OK Dan, as long as Hillary is on the top of the ticket.
Posted by: sbear | March 21, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
Wright is a liability because his nasty little sound bytes will make unbelievable commercials for the RNC. Sen. Obama, in his eagerness to “rise above it all,” gave the RNC a great “graphic” on Monday with his speech-making body standing before 8– count ‘em — 8 American flags. So here’s what you get … Rev. Wright’s rant about “God damn America” with Obama’s image in front of the 8 flags. It’s an advertising agency’s dream and a campaign’s (Obama’s) nightmare. At some point the Obama campaign has to stop living “in the moment” and start looking to the November election if they plan on being in it. There’s no way they can fight that type of ad and don’t think for one minute you won’t see those ads. The Democrats do need to unite, but not behind Sen. Obama. Oh, and don’t forget the RNC possible ad about how the DNC disenfranchised voters in FL and MI, shutting them out of the nominating process. That’s going to be a terrific ad, too, like “This time, make sure your vote counts. Vote Republican and send Howard Dean a message.”
Posted by: Mandelay3 | March 21, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
I seriously doubt that either Clinton wants anything to do with the Wright mess since pictures are now traveling around other news agencies showing Bill and Rev. Wright together the day he apologized to a group of ministers and others about the Monica Lewinsky affair. I may not be the sharpest cheese on the cracker, but I don’t think they want us to remember all of that. One question though–wonder why Bill or Hillary didn’t come to Rev. Wright’s defense seeing as he came to Bills?
Posted by: DQuinn | March 21, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
Vote for Barrack and all of your wildest dreams will come true.
Posted by: Votenow! | March 21, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
Americans can no longer trust the agenda driven media (especially those who are so far to the left such as Keith Olbermann of MSNBC) to present the truth. Voters must begin to ask many questions of Barack Obama who is attempting to win the White House in 2009. We MUST begin to ask “who is Barack Obama?”
The following excerpt is from Obama’s book titled Dreams from My Father; “I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk rock performance poets.”
Obviously, aside from Obama’s current esoteric position about transcending race- the important question is “why surround your self with Marxist professors? Simply put- Marxism is the system of socialism of which the dominant feature is public ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange. How does this relate to America, which is based upon Capitalism through individual freedom.
Therefore, who would Obama as President surround himself with for advisors? Would it be the Marxist Socialists from the Left? Or worse?
Obama just didn’t join any church- he intentionally joined a “militant black nationalist one.” Rev. Wright preaches a “black” gospel or “Black Liberation Theology” in the black community. It is the same Marxist/Communist, revolutionary, humanistic philosophy found in South American Liberation Theology and has no more claim for a scriptural basis than it did in South America.
Therefore, it should be no surprise why Obama chose the Rev. Jeremiah Wright to join his campaign for the Democratic Party’s nomination for President. It should be no surprise why Barack and Michelle Obama chose Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ 20-years ago. When Rev. Jeremiah Wright speaks he reflects the mind-set of his congregation, which includes Michelle and Barack Obama. People attend houses of worship, which make them feel comfortable.
It is no secret Rev. Jeremiah Wright courts utterly immoral people (i.e., Farrakhan and Momar Kadafi) who hold anti-Semitic, anti-white prejudges and Marxist/Communist beliefs which are un-American and ungodly. The question is not should Obama be judged by his pastor’s comments for the past 20 years- but, are Barack Obama and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright inseparable in belief, theology and philosophy?
How could Obama and his wife sit in a church pew for 20 years and listen to ANTI-AMERICAN “sermons” from a Marxist/Communist sympathizer and not want to hear these ungodly words? This is not just an issue of racist remarks. It is an issue of Obama posing as the successor to JFK and MLK, but in reality he (Obama) being the Pied Piper singing his sweet eloquent sounding words as he leads this great country to disaster.
The Democratic Party leadership along with the American voters need to think about the consequences before continuing down this road of supporting Barack Obama.
JN in NY
Posted by: josef Nagy | March 21, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
Does Obama think he can win with all his political baggage, and that of his pastor and wife Michelle?
Posted by: Johnny D | March 21, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
Meant Reverand Wright
Posted by: Ruth | March 21, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Seems many of you don’t understand the purpose of the Super Delegeates. They are in place to make sure the most electable candidate gets chosen. Hillary talking to them about the reality of the harm that has been done by the Obama/Wright story is in line with the Super Delegates purpose. Hillary is not supposed to just back away because some of you want Obama, this is a competition, she has as much right to compete as Obama.
Posted by: Danielle | March 21, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
I find it more than a bit disingenuous that Hillary knows everything about Obama’s staff but is unaware of her own.
Posted by: DaCoach | March 21, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
Actually, Donna, who is concerned that Rev. Wright will be invited to the Whitehouse, he already was. There is nice photograph of him in the White House with Bill Clinton when he was President (and Mrs. Perfect was there too). Back then, apparentely, Rev. Wright was not seen to be racist and spewing hate, but then again, back then Obama was not running against Hillary.
I can’t believe that anyone actually believes that 60 seconds out of 30 years makes someone a hate monger. I am pretty sure I could follow most people around for 30 days and come up with at least 60 seconds of inflammatory material. This is nothing but swiftboating, and I thought Democrats were smart enough to recognize it. I guess some Democrats just can’t recognize it when their preferred candidate is behind it.
Posted by: Dayna | March 21, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
ABC and the media should be pushing Wrght’s story and is ok if Hillary campaign is talking with superdelegates about it. Obama is not suitable to be the candidate.
Posted by: RAUL | March 21, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
DQuinn says:Oh! And another thought for you Ohio voters–Hillary lied when she said she didn’t support NAFTA and she does owe Obama and the Ohio voters an apology. He newly released papers now prove several meetings she held in support of NAFTA! Oh and the Canadian NAFTA flap?
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All her daily diary said was that she attended a NAFTA meeitng, it said nothing about which way her support ran. Also regarding the NAFTA/Canada issue, Clinton’s people never spoke the the Candatians they came back and said that.
Posted by: Danielle | March 21, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
· I have noted the debilitating effects of her husband’s policies that disproportionately hurt the working class of America and other minority groups on whose backs he was elected twice.
· I have noted the unashamed claims that she “wakes up every morning to go to work for those hard working people of America” despite her husband and she always siding with the Corporate interests when it comes to actually policy making.
· I have noted that she incessantly attacks Obama for having failed to accomplish in the short term that he has been in the Senate, what she herself has failed to do in her past eight years there, all the while brazenly fanning her “experience.”
· I have also noted that she is the only Democrat with the highest corporate contributions in all of Congress (see opencongress.org)!
· I have also noted that she herself voted “present” for as many times if not more than Obama did, yet she has the brazen audacity to attack him for it.
· I have noted the unscrupulous machinations of her campaign that expose her character or lack thereof… we saw it come through loudly, during the last primaries — whether they are the gender or the race biases of the people or the bait and switch using her buddies in the corporate media.
And so, I am not shocked that she is milking the Wright issue…typically appealing to the basest instincts within all those who are still fooled by the Clintons and their overweening ambition, hers even greater than his. She doesn’t care for what’s good for the party, the people, or even America and how she is daily jeopardizing the Democratic chances! Why don’t she and her supporters get it? People supporting Obama, whether they be Democrats, Republicans, or Independents, are doing so not only because he is a true statesman, a manifestation of all that is good with America, and above all, a man of integrity and nobility. She cannot compete on those fronts; the more she tries, the further she falls! No amount of manipulation or experience can gain you character!
Posted by: Jackie | March 21, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
No wonder Michelle has never been proud of her country. She sat there for 20 years listening to all that hate coming from her preacher. She probably took those sermons to heart. So sad.
Posted by: Jack | March 21, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am
Nobody has to push it. It’s everywhere.
White people aren’t used to hearing such hatred in a church.
First Obama said he never heard it before in 20 years, then he has heard it and worried about it coming out.
I can’t even imagine what the GOP will do with it when they’re ready.
Posted by: Dave S. | March 21, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am
I hear more people saying if they could they would take back their Obama vote!!! Think about that Dems., anti Repubs., anti Mcsames!! If we all just shut our mouths, he would make it to the G.E. only to lose the White House again to BushIII. Think about it. 100 more years of war. Trillions in debt, our dollar is no better than T.P. almost. We are borrowing $$ from the chinese to give to the Suadis for oil!!
We are in a recession and they are starting to talk Depression. My Dad told me about The Great Depression..he said it wasn’t so great!!! I have been through a recession it wasn’t to great either. So think about what you wish for because you just might get it!!!
Posted by: Brenda P. | March 21, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
HOW IN THE WORLD CAN ANYONE EVEN TRY TO BLAME THIS ON HILLARY.
WHAT DID SHE DO….PAY THE PREACHER TO SPEW HATRED FOR 20 YEARS SO SHE COULD HAVE SOMEONE FILM HIM. AND DID SHE TIE OBAMA TO THE PEW SO HE COULD HEAR IT FOR 20 YEARS. AND DID SHE FORCE OBAMA TO DENY IT, THEN ADMIT IT.
I DON’T THINK SO.
Posted by: Donna S. | March 21, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
DQuinn,
As I said before on this blog, Clinton’s tangential association with Wright is not the equivalent of Obama’s twenty-year relationship with “uncle” Wright. It should also be clear for obvious reasons that Wright didn’t spew his anti-American, anti-Semitic hate to president Clinton. Furthermore, Hillary didn’t support NAFTA. She privately opposed it. Even you must realize she couldn’t oppose her husband on this issue because he was the commander-in-chief. Any employee of a company knows you don’t openly oppose the CEO. Yes, the first lady is an employee–she holds the job of first lady. It’s been a job (although unpaid) since Martha Washington held the post. As for your man, Obama, he lied at least twice about NAFTA, among so many other things.
Hillary 08
Posted by: Emily | March 21, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
Oh, and to JN in NY, a Marxist, when referring to an academic, is basically someone whose primary way of interpreting history and politics is in terms of economics and class. Marx was a historian first and foremost, and his innovation as a historian was that he asserted that economics was the driving force in human history. Many of the most influential thinkers of the last century have been “Marxist” in that regard (you know, like as opposed to feminist, which in academic terms means you read things in terms of gender, or structuralist, which means you read things in terms of language and linguistic structures, or psychoanalytic, which means you read things in terms of the human unconscious, trauma, repression, etc). Why don’t you get out and go to the library and read a bit…
Posted by: Dayna | March 21, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
The time for speeches has past. We need results. I don’t want some slacker in the Whitehouse that’s going to be taking cigarette breaks every 5 minutes.
Posted by: Hey | March 21, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am
Emily–Obama lied about NAFTA? Boy are you about to get your bubble burst! The newly released Clinton papers prove that Hillary Clinton have several meetings in which she promoted NAFTA in the white house–Go to alternate news sites and you will see them–There was an article on this in the Wall Street Journal also. She lied in Ohio and they bought it–Her house of cards is starting to fall.
Posted by: DQuinn | March 21, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
Hey James, that’s not what he meant.
Posted by: Jack | March 21, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am
Hillary is going to win anyway. The voters in FL and MI will have to be heard. It would be undemocratic and unamerican otherwise. Hillary will have the votes, the delegates, the big states, and super-delegates who know she is the only viable candidate.
She may be kind enough to have Obama join the ticket. In 8 years he will have the needed experience and his dream will come true. The preacher will have graduated from rage classes and everyone will be happy. We will again have Peace & Prosperity.
Posted by: John Y. | March 21, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
There are so many black Americans in this country who have never heard hateful, racist “Wright” remarks in their churches, and I think it is so outrageous for the many Obama supporters in the media to blame this whole thing on white America not knowing the difference between white and black congregations. Many black congregations worship in a joyful true Christian atmosphere of love and forgiveness, and to paint them all with the hateful, divisive brush of Reverend Wright is to do a great disservice to millions of people.
Posted by: Grammy Barb | March 21, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
DQuinn,
You Obamabots have a very selective way of interpreting news stories, and virtually everything else.
In Texas, Obama flatly denied any meeting between Canadian officials and his campaign advisors. Then, a week later, he admitted the meeting did take place at the Canadian consulate in Chicago. When the Associated Press obtained the summary memo from the meeting, Obama denied the content of the Canadian memo. The content of the memo involved Obama’s stated position on NAFTA, about which Canadian Consul General Georges Rioux, and Joseph DeMora, indicated that Austan Goolsbee, Obama’s senior economic adviser told them that Obama really isn’t “protectionist” about NAFTA as he has stated publicly, and that: “… this messaging should not be taken out of context and should be viewed as more about political positioning than a clear articulation of policy plans.” Obama lied at least twice, as I indicated.
Posted by: Emily | March 21, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
New definition of “electability” by Clinton campaign: “acceptable to whites”. By pressuring the super delegates to vote for her because of Obama’s minister, her campaign has sunk to a new low.
Posted by: bob10001 | March 21, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
Whew…What to do?? Our Choices:
Hillary…many dislike.
Obama…many distrust.
McClang…couldn’t lead a goat to water.
Whew…What to do??
Posted by: roger king | March 21, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
Why is it “a new low” to remind super delegates that this is about winning in November, and that now that Obama is finally being vetted, he doesn’t have a chance? How do you think the primaries would go now, if they were held tomorrow? And how do you think the caucus states would have gone if they had held primaries instead of the caucuses that so disenfranchise the core Democratic lower income and older voters? It’s about winning in November, that’s why the super delegates came into being in the first place, and that’s why they are for the most part biding their time right now.
Posted by: Grammy Barb | March 21, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
Posting to say to all of you Rev Wright’s comments may not have been 100% accurate but the majority of his statements were not baseless. We need to look at our history, it isn’t perfect but it is ours. Look at the
Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male 1932 – 1972 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Study_of_Untreated_Syphilis_in_the_Negro_Male
http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2002/jul/tuskegee/
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/01/24/features/bookjeu.php
The Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male[1] also known as the Tuskegee Syphilis Study, Pelkola Syphilis Study, Public Health Service Syphilis Study or the Tuskegee Experiments was a clinical study, conducted between 1932 and 1972 in Tuskegee, Alabama, in which 399 (plus 201 control group without syphilis) poor — and mostly illiterate — African American sharecroppers were denied treatment for Syphilis.
This study became notorious because it was conducted without due care to its subjects, and led to major changes in how patients are protected in clinical studies. Individuals enrolled in the Tuskegee Syphilis Study did not give informed consent and were not informed of their diagnosis; instead they were told they had “bad blood” and could receive free medical treatment, rides to the clinic, meals and burial insurance in case of death in return for participating.[2]
In 1932, when the study started, standard treatments for syphilis were toxic, dangerous, and of questionable effectiveness. Part of the original goal of the study was to determine if patients were better off not being treated with these toxic remedies.
By 1947, penicillin had become the standard treatment for syphilis. Prior to this discovery, syphilis frequently led to a chronic, painful and fatal multisystem disease. Rather than treat all syphilitic subjects with penicillin and close the study, or split off a control group for testing penicillin; the Tuskegee scientists withheld penicillin and information about penicillin, purely to continue to study how the disease spreads and kills. Participants were also prevented from accessing syphilis treatment programs that were available to other people in the area. The study continued until 1972, when a leak to the press resulted in its termination.
The Tuskegee Syphilis Study, cited as “arguably the most infamous biomedical research study in U.S. history”,[3] led to the 1979 Belmont Report, the establishment of the National Human Investigation Board, and the requirement for establishment of Institutional Review Boards.
But it wasn’t until 1997 that the government formally apologized for the unethical study. President Clinton delivered the apology, saying what the government had done was deeply, profoundly and morally wrong:
“To the survivors, to the wives and family members, the children and the grandchildren, I say what you know: No power on Earth can give you back the lives lost, the pain suffered, the years of internal torment and anguish.
“What was done cannot be undone. But we can end the silence. We can stop turning our heads away. We can look at you in the eye and finally say, on behalf of the American people: what the United States government did was shameful.
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This is public knowledge along with other circumstances. Bottom line cut Rev Wright some slack. Based on his experiences and some of our history this is not as far fetched as most would love to think. Do your own searches if you want. Understand, find common ground and move forward together.
Posted by: dotheresearch | March 21, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
I would hate to be a ‘super delegate’. Ms Obama’s lack of pride in America combined with her husbands refusal to say the pledge of allegiance or wear a flag pin, cost him a few votes. Rev. Wright cost him many, many more. He is now unelectable; he is however ahead in the primaries. If the super delegates give the candidacy to Obama they are guaranteed to loose the election. If they give it to Hillary they will anger a lot of people and prove their elitism. They can either concede the election or destroy the party. Tough choice.
Posted by: jijalagi | March 21, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
While Bill ran the ship Hillary destroyed the women who dared speak up about Bill’s sexual harrassment. Now she wants to change the primary rules to favor her. She’s been fighting to divide Democrats and bring down the party. Looks like she’s getting close. And yes she is Unelectable
Posted by: Dollydee | March 21, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
Oh My
As if Obama didn’t do the same thing during and after So Carolina(And that was staged by the Pro-Obama Media with NO MERIT). Get real Obamanites…quit while your behind and stop the whinning and whimpering.
Posted by: AnnAlohaFairMedia,PA | March 21, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
Why isn’t the press talking about Clinton and her relationships? There are plenty to choice from that would be just as damaging to her as these stories are to Obama? Did the press decide to prosecute Obama for something? Some are Clinton contributors, it’s not hard to see which ones. I believe Obama should run the campaign that he said he was going to run, honestly and with transparency. If you have nothing to hide then whatever they come up with could be proven false. The Clintons have many, many issues behind closed doors, that if these things were to come out would put them out of the running. If that statement isn’t true, then tell me why they refuse to let their White House papers out for the public to see. They should be proud of what those papers show,they should have them on every talk show.With the exception of NAFTA what they just released was a joke. Almost 5,000 pages were blacked out.
How about the tax returns? She said she has been too busy to deal with that. I don’t understand, they are already done, she only has to make a call to her accountant with a request for copies, she could even have Bill call. How about the upcoming trial regarding the $17 million dollar fraud case that all three Clintons have to attend? I’m serious. The press isn’t talking about it and I would like to know.
She said she intends to win this election,and I believe her, she will do whatever it takes to make sure that happens. Of course she is hoping this story continues, and gets worse for Obama.
I read a post by someone who lives in Canada, she claims that Bill Clinton was in Canada the day before Obama was accused of trying to sooth Canada over NAFTA. And it cost him Ohio and Texas. I can’t seem to find that on the news either.
Even with this lastest story on Obama, if the press wanted to be fair and/or honest, they could put out information,the truth, about Clinton that would put some balance and truth back in this campaign.
Posted by: linda | March 21, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
just a note…I agree that SLY is a paid shill for the Obama campaign. His first post is at 6:20 .. running until past 11:00 …
Posted by: just an observer | March 21, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
just a note…I agree that SLY is a paid shill for the Obama campaign. His first post is at 6:20 .. running until past 11:00 …
Posted by: just an observer | March 21, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
3/20/08…..Today on the internet an interesting photo surfaced that of……
~~~~Pastor Jeremiah Wright and Bill Clinton~~~~~~~together at the White House taken after the Monica Lewinsky fallout.
You can check it out on the Huffington Post.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/20/bill-clinton-and-jeremiah_n_92670.html
Posted by: NewsOfTheDay | March 21, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
Good night to all…let’s hope tomorrow is a better day for all. Heaven knows the Democratic Party needs a good day.
Posted by: roger king | March 21, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am
TO THOSE WHO BASH OBAMA:
I’m reading these comments and see that the spirit in White People now, is the same as it was during slavery time just not as overt. I think corruption is just in your DNA and many of you cannot help the way that you are. There is something very evil about SOME of you people. Is there any good in many of you? Why won’t you separate yourself from each other as you expect Senator Obama to separate himself from Rev. Wright? Rev. Wright is not a racist like many of you are. What he said this country does and what it represents is true. You hate Rev. Wright because you can’t stand looking in the mirror that he has put in front of your face so you can see yourself. You hate to see what you look like, that’s where your anger comes from. Don’t think that Senator Obama is the problem. He did not create the racial mess in this country, yet he’s willing to help solve many issues.
This country will never get over racism as long as people like most of you don’t change your ways. Just as Senator Obama said in his speech, you spate out your racist remarks behind closed doors and on the Internet and pretend that you are not part of the problem in America. This is one reason why Americans are hated all over the world. We want to dictate to other Countries about human rights and we don’t even enforce them in our own country. Do we not realize when we use the Internet our comments are read all over the world. What message are we sending to those in other countries? They can only see that we’re hypocrites.
Obama want to save us all. I don’t hear Hillary or McCain preaching Unification, or coming together to solve racial problems in this country. Many of you don’t even realize you’re being played like a pawn. Senator Obama tried to explain this to you in his speech. If you are not rich, you cannot afford to get the wrong person in the White House, we’re headed for a recession. This is a Capitalistic society. It doesn’t matter what color you are. It’s all about the money. Rich people of ALL RACES are privileged. The media play on ignorant poor, low income people of all races including White. White people are played like a pawn and, The MEDIA make them think that they are all that, just to keep the racism game going on. There are many Whites who feel disenfranchised because they are poor. Poor people are all affected economically the same way no matter what your race The Media knows how to light the fuel of racism especially during a recession or an election. They know Poor Whites think they should be privileged. You see the Media knows that they have been very effective making White people think they are. If you are on the verge of losing your job, have maxed out your credit card, living from pay check to pay check, living in a trailer, can’t send your kids to college and MUST have a job, don’t consider yourself rich. You can only dream. You are like most of us. You can’t play with the big boys. You will be affected by this economy just like everyone else. Don’t let the media fool you. You cannot afford to PLAY the political game if you’re NOT rich. If you’re not rich, you will be discriminated against no matter what color you are. Everyone knows that. Well, maybe not.
We need to hold our elected officials to higher standards. We all pay their salaries with our tax dollars and they should be accountable. They should be honest and fair to all people. After all, this is the government of the people, for the people and by the people.
Posted by: Ola | March 21, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am
I’m sure many of you caught wind of today’s latest revelation about how Obama refers to caucausians as “typical white people.” In other words, in Obama’s world, all white people are afraid of black people and go around spitting out ethnic and racial stereotypes. What a unifying perspective.
First of all for someone to even think about describing a person like this is outrageous. “Oh yeah, a typical Asian,’ “You white people.”
The more I hear and read how Obama processes and accepts racial-speak, the more I am convinced he is a closet-racist that is surfacing, now that he is being scrutinized just a little more these days.
Can you imagine the uproar that would unfold if John McCain uttered, “Oh typical black person.”
What a double standard that Obama and “his people” play.
Just in case, here’s the link to one story:
http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2008/03/obama-typical-w.html
Posted by: NoTrainingWheels4Presidency | March 21, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am
I think since Bill Clinton invited Reverend Wright to the White House, the Clinton’s don’t have much room to criticize Obama on the Wright issue.
I am voting for Obama – he explained his outrage to the controversial comments of Wright without abandoning a friend, and I admire him for that.
Many on this blog are so quick to judge Wright even though you only saw a few seconds of his life of service to his community. And by the way, Obama is running for president, not Wright.
I have read Obama’s book, read and viewed many of his speeches, researched his policies, and I have no doubt that he would be a president that would solve problems for us…think about that – a president that wants to help us, not just manipulate us for votes.
What happened to voting for a candidate based on what they will do for the country – what about the issues? Instead, people are turning this into an endless soap opera – move on.
Posted by: Vicky | March 21, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
Sen Obama is a politician just like all the others. Republicans will not be kind to him if he is the Democratic candidate. Sen Obama cannot bring the Democratic Party together much less the whole country. Obama supporters should realize that Clinton supporters are just as avid and loyal to her as they are to him. The ugly comments that Obama supporters make about Sen Clinton and her supporters serve only to drive her supporters further away from Sen Obama. Obama will pay the price come November if he is the nominee. He will need all Democrats plus some to win the Presidency. Better start playing nice and stop the hateful comments towards Sen Clinton.
Posted by: sparklewdc | March 21, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am
The one thing about the Wright episode is this – it has brought out into the open for the first time that both Obama and Clinton are masters in the art of spin, the only difference is Clinton has more credibility by virtue of her experience. She has less ideological statements to make!
America right now, needs a president able ‘to get down and dirty’, not high-minded ‘well meaning – good intentioned speeches’ on race.
Did u notice last weekend Bill Clinton in Louisiana lending his name and time and money helping to rehouse people! I wonder what the cynics have to say about that!
What annoys Obama is that when you have less experience, you really have less to talk about, particuarly in the context of politics. Doesn’t make sense to me why a potential apprentice would rule completely the No.2 slot! Simply not willing to serve his time – doesnt have to he has all the answers already!
gerry
Posted by: Gerry | March 21, 2008, 4:21 am 4:21 am
First the Headline is misleading she didn’t deny it and she didn’t say she was. “not denying” is not the same as acknowledgement… Second there is a difference in meeting individuals from any particular group and having a personal relationship with an individual… Finally I have disowned members of my own family for being bigots and racists. Just because someone is your friend doesn’t give them the right to condemn others for the color of thir skin…
He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Posted by: Tim | March 21, 2008, 4:28 am 4:28 am
And one more thing, to all of those in the “I saw 15 seconds of something inflammatory so that means (as the media tells me) that Rev. Wright has been preaching racist sermons for 30 years” let me remind you:
The the UCC said that Rev. Wright has been slandered and misrepresented, and that his church is not racist but in keeping with the mainstream of the denomination.
Marty Martin (who is a white evangelical who knows Wright well and who has spent time in his church says Wright has been slandered and misrepresented).
If I followed you around and recorded you for 30 days (never mind 30 years) I am pretty sure I could come up with 30 seconds of stuff at least this inflammatory.
And before you go off on your (but I know what I saw, and I am not a preacher, blah, blah), remember that:
John Kerry was slandered in exactly the same way. They took something he did and one or two things he said and took them out of context, and blasted them all over the media and then “interpreted” them for people so that he was “unpatriotic” and “had never really earned his purple heart” (disgusting).
John McCain (yep, because the Republicans even do it to their own) was slandered in exactly the same way in 2000 and AGAIN this January (by a group called “Vietnam Veterans Against McCain” –sort of eerily reminiscent of “Swiftboat Veterans for Truth” convinced everyone McCain is a traitor who gave up his fellow soldiers to the Vietnamese.
By the logic applied to Obama, it must be true that John McCain is a traitor, because it was reported, after all, this conclusion is based on what he said (yes him, not his pastor) and what he did. (Never mind that just like with Rev. Wright, it is just selected little bits of salacious information taken out o of context, plastered all over, and spun–it has to be true if its true Obama spent 15 years in a racist church–same rules of logic apply).
Oh, I forgot, now its been decided McCain is a hero (since he’s the nominee). So, you all just go ahead and forget about the traitor stuff (that was last month)…
Honestly, how can the public be this dumb?
And how can anyone have respect for McCain after he made a deal with people who slandered him, and who(at their bidding) backed down on the torture issue after saying if we torture our soldiers will be tortured?
And let’s (on that subject) remember all the nice things that John Hagee (McCain’s good buddy) has said about Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Homosexuals…
If we judge Obama by those Wright remarks, then fair is fair… we have to conclude McCain is not only a traitor but a racist, anti-semite, anti-Muslim, anti-Homosexual, anti-Catholic.
Does this kind of stuff seem really really low to you yet? Do you feel suckered yet?
Whoever said that we needed to get back to the issues is right. This kind of slash and burn politics just drives us further into the ground.
Posted by: Dayna | March 21, 2008, 4:31 am 4:31 am
Americans need to wake up and smell the
soup —-HILARY IS in the POT.
NO MORE BUSH/CLINTON IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
Guess she will have to plan a wedding for
that daughter of hers in the Senate chambers.
oh wait— the senate dont want her back
there either.
go OBAMA—–
Posted by: JIM IN PENNSYLVANIA | March 21, 2008, 5:15 am 5:15 am
just pathetic, once again hillary has shown how low shes willing to stoop, some of us realize that not answering the question is just another admission of guilt…if your camp had nothing to do with it stand up and say so, this is just a preview of more to come if she’s elected. Everytime Obama has been confronted with an issue hes addressed it head on, Clinton on the other hand tries to manuever around or just ignore the issue. Which would you rather have as your leader?
Posted by: nerd | March 21, 2008, 5:39 am 5:39 am
If the story regarding Wright & Obama would of broke prior to the first Iowa primary, Obama would of been history by now. As it is this story will insure he is not elected to the White House, I can see the ads now…………
Posted by: John | March 21, 2008, 5:49 am 5:49 am
I was so inspired and motivated by Sen Obama…now i have to reconcile the fact that i can not in good conscious vote for someone who aligns themselves with such a racist church. Being anti-white and anti-American is unforgivable since i am both. Sen. Obama, you no longer represent me and I deeply regret having voted for you. If he is is the nominee, Sen. McCain has my vote.
Posted by: Clown with a Frown | March 21, 2008, 6:29 am 6:29 am
Reverend Wrigth was “Mentor” and Spiritual Father of Obama, for 20 years .. This is the problem … for Obama, and not for Hillary …
What is the great question??
OBAMA Why didn’t you stopped supporting a man who teaches you to hate your country???
Posted by: Nuccia | March 21, 2008, 6:31 am 6:31 am
I just wish that Hillary would concede and…shut up. She’s giving me a headache; and, like someone said above, she’s a nasty, nasty person. ‘Know what’s really discouraging? We have someone outstanding like Obama come along once in a generation, and we may not even give him a chance. We just let Hillary attack him and badmouth him and some of us tacitly agree with her. If Hillary gets the nomination, I won’t even bother to vote. It’s not worth the gasoline to go to the polls.
Posted by: Janet | March 21, 2008, 6:35 am 6:35 am
I was so inspired and motivated by Sen Obama…now i have to reconcile the fact that i can not in good conscious vote for someone who aligns themselves with such a racist church. Being anti-white and anti-American is unforgivable since i am both. Sen. Obama, you no longer represent me and I deeply regret having voted for you. If he is is the nominee, Sen. McCain has my vote.
Posted by: Clown with a Frown | March 21, 2008, 6:36 am 6:36 am
Hillary shouldn’t have to push the issue. Anyone who heard Wright’s remarks and has half a brain should get it right from the start. Obama knew it, there are pictures of both him and Queen Michelle sitting in the pews listening. Then we have the testimony of the black people coming out of the churches that ABC interviewed that said it is the same thing preached in all of the black churches. People ought to be scared to death in this country that they even considered Obama for President. He says he is African American, well we need a President who is AMERICAN, period. The blacks segregate themselves and then want to yell that we do it. I don’t go about calling myself a Caucasion American, I am an American. Michelle is not proud of anything her country has done in 40+ years, Wright is yelling God Damn America and Obama is standing up giving speeches, that mouth flapping at both sides, trying to blame the whites in this country for it. I did not enslave anyone. None of my family have ever owned a slave, and no one in that church has ever been a slave, unless maybe they just got here from Indonesia, Obama’s stepfather’s home, or Chad, or Nigeria, or Darfur, or Kenya, because they are all killing each other because they are so racist that even though they are all black, the individual tribes are racist against each other and they all practice the slave trade. So, where is it that the roots of slavery and racism exist. America or Africa?
To answer the question of why the news outlets are going after all these clips of Obama’s minister and no one else’s minister is because Obama has preasented himself as LOVE, and PEACE, and HOPE, and CHANGE, and INSPIRATION, and as the great UNITER. So the news media, some of them who could actually see through the snake oil saleman that he is, deceided to check it out for themselves instead of falling for the hype. Everything the other candidates have run on has been picked apart in the media. It was Obama’s turn and he failed miserably, because now everyone knows it was all a bunch of garbage. The delegates and the voters had all better be thinking about this issue. Go and listen to the blacks in line at the polls who tell you that it is their turn now, that Obama is going to take care of us for everything the white man has ever done to them. I personally think that Obama will never do a thing if he is elected. But if there is one thing he is not doing, it’s uniting this country. If he is elected, especially here in the South, you will see the biggest racial divide since the Jim Crow days of the fifties.
Posted by: Melanie | March 21, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am
Anybody who thinks he is goint to win the general election with all the negative press lately has another thing coming. The Republicans I am sure already have the ammo they need to knock him out.
Posted by: J | March 21, 2008, 7:37 am 7:37 am
The liberal media is H#LL BENT on putting Obama into the white house. They have thrown their entire credibility out the window to make sure it happens. This is the real story of this election, and there is going to be a huge backlash of outrage when the process is over.
Posted by: tomdavie | March 21, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am
obama is already done. his judgement was in question for his relationship with wright, and now he has tried to divert us with a race speech that has moved us into a black/white debacle that will bring us down. wright often gave anti-american speeches and those are his views and he is not historically incorrect. yes, the black anger is based in history. they have a right to feel that way and a right to express it. that said, obama does not have that right. he has chosen to run for president of the united states. the entire united states. his judgement and views must be accepted by all the people he will lead. they are not. he has shown he is capable of lying when needed to benefit himself, and using the race card to his advantage if he needs it. what will he do as president? will we be able to criticize anything he does or will we all be called racists for every little statement, whether racist in nature or not. No one is denying that wright has done much good work for the african american community but his attitude and the attitude of his congregation are unacceptable in mainstream america. it needs to stay within the church community, but since obama is running for president and has such a personal connection to this man, it has moved to an unacceptable venue. yes, the clintons invited wright to the white house. he is a respected pastor in his circle. they did not get married by him, or have him baptize their children, nor sit through sermons with anti-american sentiments on numerous occasions for twenty years. they did not let their children listen to it either. Hillary has not done anything in regards to the wright issue because she is too smart to get involved. america is smart enough to look at this on their own. we do not need hillary to push us anywhere to see this is a problem for obama in november. that hillary would let the superdelegates know that she feels she is more electable in light of this matter is prudent politics. where was abc when the obama campaign was calling superdelegates already committed to clinton and pressuring them to change to obama vecause he was black and so were they. the obama supporters were sending death threats to them and threatening their families. i am glad that clinton is doing everything within her power legally to get the nomination. because obama is doing everything, period. this is a contest and a political race. if obama is already crying race, how will he survive a real political race where the opponent can really go after him because they are not in the same party? the most the news media has found in hillary’s papers so far is that she was in the white house when bill slipped up. that story was demeaning to not only hillary, but women in general, because it was yellow journalism at its best. hillary did not wink to the canadian government, obama did. i believe hillary did go through the official offices in washington to assure the canadian government that she would be willing to renegotiate nafta and that she would be fair. i cannot source that, however, as it was so long ago in blog time. hillary has a ton of supporters and they blog, like me, as often as they can. we are not paid staffers. our opinions are our own. there is no script. it is just that we all have similar views and express them.
Posted by: McgowanSwan | March 21, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am
I hope all Americian democrats independents and republican wake out of there dream before they elect obama/Wright if you vote for Obama you vote for Rev Wright. Everyone loves Obama so much they have accepted any think from him If he is elected I hope wright is in his cabinet and Amercia will kool stupid to the world. Obama has sold himself as the candidate of change but he has lied like all othe politician.He cares nothing about the Amercian people he joint hte chruch foe the black support an will not disown Wright.If he wins the nomination I hope mcCain wins in November .
Posted by: D Grace | March 21, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am
I hope all Americian democrats independents and republican wake out of their dream before they elect obama/Wright if you vote for Obama you vote for Rev Wright. Everyone loves Obama so much they have accepted any thing from him .If he is elected I hope Wright is in his cabinet and Amercia will look stupid to the world. Obama has sold himself as the candidate of change but he has lied like all other politician.He cares nothing about the Amercian people he joint thee chruch for the black support and will not disown Wright.If he wins the nomination I hope McCain wins in November .
Posted by: D Grace | March 21, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am
You know 2 things strike me about tis whole Obama thing. One is how ignorant and ready we are to believe the worst because it comes on the news. Wright’s chickens coming home to roost statement was taken out of context because he was only repeating what he had heard US Ambassador Edwatd Peck say in an interview on FOX News in an interview with Linda Vester on October 10, 2001. But did anyone bother to look into Peck’s statements which have been very fiery? Maybe not because he was appointed by Reagan the beloved to be on the WhiteHouse terrorism taskforce. Maybe because he’s a white man, maybe because we wnat to believe that Blacks are hate mongers? ABC had a duty to look into this further and not just play the soundbite they received but to play the whole sermon and get the context. Guess that’s too much like right?
2nd is the fact that everyone thinks that the clintons are above the mudslinging and that they have room to judge this Obama thing with Wright. They don’t given the fact that Bill Clinton had a relationship with Wright and has had him at the Whitehouse back in 1998 go to http://www.thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com to see the letter Bill sent to Jeremiah thanking him for the visit.
One more thing, John McCain has pastor issues that have been on ABC news yet. What about his affiliation with John Hagee and Rod Parsley? These are white male pastors that have made some very strong statements about gays, Iran and bombing them, and other things that could be seen to hateful. Is Obama catching the wrath because of his Pastor or because his pastor is black not white? The media gives unfair coverage and if I can find this junk about what was really said and who associates with him, I KNOW these journalists can IF they want to know the truth.
Posted by: shawn | March 21, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am
Obama will not win in GE period. No way, no how.
He brought race into this race, race brought Reverend. Wright into his candidacy and more to come.
Posted by: Cerebral | March 21, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am
I read every comment and I can clearly see that America is in trouble. We have not moved away from race and people still feel slighted (white, black and brown). Everyone has an issue and everyone hide the fact that they are prejudice in some way. If we would pull back and look at the broader issues, things would be better. It doesn’t matter if you are black, white or brown…most of us in the middle and the bottom are hurting financially. We are spending 12 billion a day on the war and we are offering tax brakes while the economy is in shambles. That is what I care about, but it is not being addressed, because of sensational issues. If most people loved America like they say, then they would repair it’s image and deal with race. White people are not the only people who love America exclusively and we have to get rid of that notion. When people are treated poorly by their government, it’s hard to come back to center and say this is a great country. You get the great country for who? So, what Mr. Wright said was horrible to hear, but like it or not some of it is true. You the 800lbs elephant in the room. It’s here and we have to deal with it now. Let’s get back to the issues, which includes race in America and a host of other things. Just because it makes you uncomfortable, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t address it.
Posted by: Richard | March 21, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am
Is Karl Rove working for her campaign or did she just learn from him? These dirty tricks that play on racial prejudices and fears are not liberal values. Before she ruins everything, the superdelegates need to push right back and urge her to come to grips with the fact that she doesn’t have the numbers to win. And where are their tax returns?
Posted by: Sara B. | March 21, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
Clinton, Obama and McCain are all from the same mold. They are for the Military Industrial Complex running our lives.
Give this economy another month or two and Ron Paul will be looked upon as the Messiah.
Vote for honesty, integrity and Sound Money.
Vote for Ron Paul in your primary
Posted by: Dave | March 21, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am
Free your minds of ‘race, man or woman,etc., crap’… Free yourselves from tearing others down and Build-Up! … so you can free and have ‘a conscious’, – so you can free your heart and have a ‘soul’. ” Embrace the differences “.
A President can’t fix or save americans mind, hearts, and souls…
for purple is a color, green is a color, black is a color, white is a color, beige is a color, bronze is a color, tan, pink, red, on and on … no ends to ‘color’ !
” USA AND AROUND THE WORLD… EACH AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL- ARE PEOPLE OF ‘COLOR’… and ‘a name’? How many different names, types of people, from different countries, in America?
*Separations- has caused- Devastations., as, Evils begets Evils….
With minds conditioned, buried into such, their can be no time, space, words, nor recognition for anything as ‘love, peace and harmony, truth ‘!… Unless we open/free our hearts minds and souls…. we’re ‘creating’ – Dooms-Day… it won’t take any act of nature, or any God.
MANY OF DIFFERENT RELIGIONS, TYPES, AND RACE VOTED, for one or the other… it’s not about color for color… It’s about the needs of the people,those whom work together to maintain some substance and respect!…to pull our country up to a level to be ‘proud’ of!!…to be ‘respected for’!!
Posted by: heartnspirit | March 21, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
I wonder if Hillary is warmed up yet…..
Posted by: Mike | March 21, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
I wonder how much the Republicans are paying her to keep wrecking the Democratic party….
Posted by: mike | March 21, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
To Hillary haters:
I am wondering whether the video is true? Obama has been in close touch with a man hating American for 20 years! Unbelievable! Back to a question: what is his judgment? Is this his judgment?
Posted by: fda | March 21, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
After reading a few of these BLOGS against Obama, I wonder how many Catholics have distanced themselves from the Catholic church in lieu of all the Homosexuality on little boys..Are you still Catholic? If you’re in a glass house, please, no stone throwing.I hope you will post this so people can look into the mirroe.
Posted by: Edna | March 21, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
to Edna:
How about the individuals involved in homosexuality on little boys? Are they protected in the similar level as what Obama to Wright? Btw, do the many Catholics knew that there are sombody involved in homosexuality with little boys when they attended the church?
Posted by: fda | March 21, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
ITS UNFORTUNATE THAT AMERICA HAS DEMONIZED A MINISTER LIKE REV. WRIGHT AND HIS CHURCH. HES ONE THE MOST HUMBLE MINISTERS IN THE PULPIT TO DATE. SURE HES CONTROVERSIAL IN STATEMENTS ONLY. TAKE A GOOD HARD LOOK AT HIS ACTIONS AND THE GOOD WORKS OF HIS CHURCH, THAT WHERE A MAN ACTS ARE JUDGED. THAT WHY SENATOR OBAMA HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF TRINITY.
Posted by: michelle | March 21, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Isn’t it ironic that now we have a picture taken at the White House of Bill Clinton and good old Wright. I guess he was good enough for them to seek out spiritual advice from but not for Obama.
Hillary Clinton is tearing the democratic Party to pieces in a self serving bide to steal the nomination. How sad for her but more important how very sad for our party!
Posted by: ldworkman | March 21, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
The vitriolic anger Democrats are feeling is amazing. I am an Obama supporter and find Hillary insupportable on any level. I see her tearing apart the Democratic party, for her own ambition, at a juncture when Democrats actually have a chance to win and change this country for the better.
But fellow Democrats, lets look at this anger!! Could it be that we are REALLY frustrated with the oppressive and impossible years of George Bush? With a broken political system, with an insane war that tears all of us down alittle each day, and with the corporations of this country who sell us out day after day after day???
Yes, the Clintons are ruthless old-time Washington bullies—-we need to defeat Clinton if we can before it’s too late…..but think! Aren’t we really much more angry about living in a country that is ashamed of itself and is decining year after year???
Posted by: RG | March 21, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
Its a pity that things are developing in this manner. But how can people trust Clinton. Late last year she accepted and signed that the delegates should not be counted. Suddenly because she is loosing she wants them counted!!!
Where is her Judgment???
What a shame if she becomes the nominee. That tells the world who she is.
Dirty game.
Posted by: Wadinga | March 21, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
MRS CLINTON AND STAFF- HAVE PROVED TIME AFTER TIME, THAT NOTHING IS HANDS OFF, NO MATTER THE SUBJECT. UNLESS IT’S ABOUT HER OR HER LOVING HUSBAND. I’VE REVIEWED THE DOC’S THAT HAVE BEEN RELEASED REGARDING HER TIME IN THE WHITE HOUSE, AND THOSE INDEED PROVE SOMETHING ABOUT HER HANDS ON EXPERINCE, SHE’S ONE HECK OF A HOSTESS
Posted by: Jerry Spangler | March 21, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Guess what Donna @2:24:24, Rev. Wright has already been invited for dinner at the White House. That’s right, 9/11/98, by then President Clinton who obviously has mad respect for the man too. Despite what two tapes show, and trust me, some poor aide sat through countless years worth of tapes, to come up with the 9/01, and 12/07 tapes. Rev. Wright is a respected spiritual leader, who has served his community in immeasurable ways over the last 30-yrs. I know, because I used to live in Chicago, and physically saw the transition that community went through as a result of his tireless work and dedication. And while many have summed Rev. Wright up, based upon the the tape EXCERPTS, as some anti-white/anti-American spewer of hate. That is not who he is, and I personally don’t believe the tapes suggest that either; my personal experience, coupled with my personal knowledge of Trinity Church and Rev. Wright, led to my very different interpretation of who Rev. Wright is.
Posted by: Jeanette | March 21, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Hillary has managed to fail every test to show any class and integrity. Given the fact that the Clintons invited Rev. Wright to White House when Bill was in trouble and thanked Wright for his support, she could at least come out and tell the American people that those out-of-context clips of Wright’s preach doesn’t represent the respected man and he is not a racist the MSM made his look like. What did she do? She uses this opportunity to throw stones at the Pastor and Obama. How can any ethical American want her in the White House for President? Even McCain and Huckabee came out to say they will not judge Obama by what his pastor said. Shame on the Clintons who do not care about truth, ethics, and the American people. They do anything to advance their own greed for power. Wake up people. For the future of your children and loved ones, stop being fooled by racial divide. We can’t afford following the Clintons dirty politics to a ditch.
Posted by: hubbs | March 21, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Emily I challenge you to watch the tape in its context before you call rev. Wright a racist. You won’t not want other people to label you based on sources that misrepresenting you, do you? Why such easily arrived hate towards a man you came to know only through out-of-context clips other presented to you?
Posted by: hubbs | March 21, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
obama said his grandma is a racist, he wanted to throw her under bus.
he also said his grandma is a typical white person.
then he wanted to throw all the typical white person under the bus.
it is terrible.
his brain has been washed by Wright–his mentor and spirital leader(he said so in his book) for over 20 years.
at end Wright is succesfull
Posted by: collins | March 21, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
typical white people:I suggest you ‘d better vote for Obama, or you will be thrown under the bus.it is miserable
Posted by: collins | March 21, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Hillary will stop at nothing to win. She is a liar and I believe has no bounds when it comes to what she will do to win.
Wake up those who support her, they too are a train wreck waiting to happen.
Shallow? To vote for anyone because of thier race or sex is SHALLOW!!!
Emotional voters are uneducated voters.
Posted by: Kadius | March 21, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Kadius,
You right man. Nobody should vote for anyboby cause of color or sex we need to look at whats up first and then vote on what we do know not cause of the liberal media folks
Posted by: Tyron | March 21, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Hubbs,
Please. If the eye is on and you put your hand on the stove, guess what? Your going to get burned my friend.
Wright is a hot stove and this is not just a little video footage but rather a long and proven message of hate, intolerance and a proven intent to provoke the black community to move away from the white community.
He has all the clear signs of being a rasict!
open your eyes, quick dont wreck your train!!!
Posted by: Kadius | March 21, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Sick & Tired,
Thanks for making a great point, this is not a white / black issue.
This is the election for who will be the head of our country.
Where are the questions to the Asians living here, Indians, Native Americans and Arab Americans. Not meaning to leave anyone out but wake up everybody.
This election is being foraced as man against women and black against white and that sucks!
We are all peolpe and should make that a major factor in how we decise who represents the people best.
McCain will be running against ??????, you decise folks, read, eductae yourself about all the propects and then decide, prayer might just help and more than you think!!
Posted by: Kadius | March 21, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
Obama supporter,
She has layed low and will continue to lay low.
Her Princeton papers now released show her (then) as a person who had serious issues with whites and her statements in the past six month do not show a maturing sence that would help her husband.
Children, Chelsy(?) was a child also while Bill ran, she was there and in the public eye often. She does not have my vote but your off on this.
Posted by: Kadius | March 21, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Hillary’s experience? That’s debatable. Her judgement? The record is clear. On the most important issue of war and peace, Hillary voted 5 years ago to give Bush authority to use military action in Iraq. She voted again just last year, with no less questionable pretext than before, for legislation providing Bush blanket authority to attack Iran. She refuses to admit any lack of judgement in either case, except to claim she didn’t know 5 years ago what she knows now. Her more recent vote begs the question, has she not learned anything? Riding the swell of popular opinion against the war, she portrays herself as an anti-war candidate. She will do and say anything to win but on the record the difference between her own militarism and McCain’s is hard to tell.
Posted by: kbinerie | March 21, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Why is there no ethics committee putting Hillary in her place? She is not even professional, just a ghetto mud slinger now. She makes every democrat look really bad.
Posted by: gilesjp | March 21, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
If people want to show Wrights talk during the general election I think it would be fair to show Jerry Falwell’s and Pat Robertson’s as well since McCain needs their supporters he all of a sudden doesn’t think they are so bad. Wright damns the treatment of his people by the “establishment” (which BTW I’m white but EVERY single black person I know has suffered discrimination) while Falwell and Robertson damn innocent people they don’t agree with. But it’s ok because they are white Republicans and I guess white republicans as a whole are obviously more understanding of their own beliefs than people they cannot relate to one single bit.
Posted by: Chris | March 21, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Jaded, ABC’s Brian Ross says they have HOURS & HOURS of this stuff and it’s all the same.
Nice try, but better get another excuse.
Posted by: Jo | March 21, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
One good thing about the Obama candidacy is that it has shone a light on what is going on in black churches across America and it ain’t pretty.
Obama needs to lecture his own church before he tell US we need to “heal” and “change.” If Obama couldn’t “heal” his pastor & his church, how can he heal a nation?
He can’t.
Posted by: Jo | March 21, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Obama will say anything to get elected. He should have chosen a different church if he wanted to win the presidency. How do we know how he’ll govern? We know nothing about this man, except what he says.
Posted by: Brian | March 21, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
jaded, that is NOT McCain’s spiritual advisor!
He called him a spiritual guide, not HIS spiritual guide. Nice try though.
Learn to read and quit drinking the kool-aid.
Posted by: Jo | March 21, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
I think everyone should call Hillary to the national stage to give her own speech about race.
Posted by: 1962ottumwa | March 21, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
First off… it is Terre Haute. Not Terra. I think it is great Hillary made a stop there.
I am tired of all the crap the Obama campaign has dished out. Has Obama stopped at a nursing home and sang happy birthday to a 99-year old? Has Obama gone out of his way to shake hands with people who waited outside in the cold by a fence just to get a look at him?
I doubt it. His aides have him covered up so much in order to keep him from making a mistake. He has nothing to offer us in Indiana. I work and live in Indiana, and I also work in Illinois. It has some of the worst roads I have ever driven on. The pay scale for women and blacks is so low compared to Indiana. The education level of the average American in these areas is not college grad and barely even high school grad.
It is ridiculous. I see no advantages to working or living in Illinois. Obama sure did his work there when he was Senator didn’t he?
Hillary or McCain in 08
Posted by: Cheryl Wilson | March 21, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
HOGS WASH!!! Wright showed himself to be a racist bigot!End Of! Obama, the smoothy, is just as bad! 20 years of listening to his Pastor makes him past his best! He’s eloquant ok, but people are now sick of hearing him twist words to get out of situation…and if by doing so he can blame Hillary, fine! But Barack, this is not the only trial you have to face, Atonio won’t protect you next week, lets see you get out of that.
Posted by: Di | March 21, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Obama chose his hate mongering pastor over the american people. Now that shows really sound “judgement”. He could have ended his relationship with Wrght but instead Obama tried to minimize Wright’s hatred by throwing his White Grandmother under the bus. Then he backed the bus over her by saying that racism was “bred into her”
Posted by: where the beef? | March 21, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
If you want to see Obama’s judgement in action? While Obama and Rezko were working out a deal so Obama could buy a mansion he could not afford Obama’s constituences (poor blacks) were freezing in the homes that Rezko was suppose to fix!!! It shows that Obama’s judgement is take care of himself first.
Obama only cares about himself.
Posted by: where the beef? | March 21, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
I don’t buy the argument that HRC has more experience. John Edwards had less experience than either Obama or Clinton and no one ever challenged his lack of experience when he was still in the race. And as for Hillary’s qualifications to answer that White House phone ringing at 3:00 A.M. If memory serves correctly, she didn’t even know what was going on in the Oval Office with her husband and Monica Lewinsky…when she was living in the White House. She believed Bill when he said he wasn’t involved with Monica. She believed Bush when he said Sadam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. She voted to give Bush permission to go to war. She has a history of believing the wrong men…which doesn’t bode well for future dealings with foreign leaders. On top of all that, I’ve lost all respect for both Clintons for their “win at all costs” campaign and the damage they’ve done to the Democratic party. I’m an older white woman who’ll be voting for Obama with pride.
SK
Posted by: Susan Kirshenbaum | March 22, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
If Sen. Obama is selected as Democratic nominee to run against Sen. John McCain Republicans are going to make Rev. Wright Sen. Obama’s running-mate. That will be the end of the story for Democrats!
Posted by: charleschaplin | March 22, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
What else can you expect from Washington media establishment, except bad taste and poor judgment? Remember these are the same people who brought us Iraq war, now they are all blindly cheering for inexperienced Sen. Barak Obama. The fact is Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton is far better qualified to be the president of our country than any other candidate, including Sen. Obama. Mrs. Clinton’s deep grasp of issues and policies makes her far more ready to take on the presidency than Mr. Obama. And at every debate that was held, we saw Mr. Obama merely copying her; without originality in thought or words not to mention the depth of grasp that she has. I agree he’s a good speaker; but what he says is very broad, usually without meaning or substances. Besides, he has no accomplishments. He’s a two term senator and one term US. Senator─ out of which, he has spent three years running a presidential campaign. His lack of foreign policy experience makes him even less qualified to be our next president while our nation is embroiled in two disastrous wars. In spite what seemed obvious differences in suitability and qualifications between the two candidates to be the president of the United States, what I see is complete exaggeration of Mr. Obama’s achievements and institutionalized slighting Sen. Hillary Clinton. This is heartbreaking disservice to our country. When I see this sort of bias reports such as this one from Washington media establishment about their pet candidate Sen. Obama, I want to cry out in disgust; I know this type of blind media adoration of a charming but inexperienced candidate─ without mindful analysis of his or her qualifications─ is a prescription for disaster.
Posted by: charleschaplin | March 22, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
Hillary and her negative, deceptive, win at all costs campaign only prove how she is like the republicans. Maybe that is why Bill was comparing Hillary to McCain. I’m a white male who voted for Bill Clinton, but not this time in PA. Go Obama!
Posted by: Alan | March 22, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
I think it is time for the Democratic party to split on two factions. The Left leaning liberal side (Obama) and the Center (Clinton). Both factions should run in the general election. The split of the Democratic party is inevitable simply for the following reasons:
- The deep-seated hatred by the followers of Sen Clnton and Sen Obama. Each side is saying that they will vote for McCain if their candidate is not the nominee.
- The divisiveness of the leaders who instead of letting Sen Clinton and Sen Obama slug it out and prove who is the better candidate, chose to take sides making them part of the problem instead of part of the solution.
- The same can be said about the super delegates who tried to tip the election in favor of their candidate by declaring support while the election is still ongoing. I believe that the super delegates should have kept their preference a secret until the end of the primary.
- The disenfranchisement of Michigan and Florida coupled with mischief conducted by the Republicans made the primary lose its credibility simply because the primary does not reflect the will of the Democrats.
Those who argue against this idea will say that this will surely tip the general election in favor of John McCain. I don’t think so. Sen Obama has been claiming in his stump speeches that the Independents and the Republicans were voting for him in large numbers. We will now see if this is really the case.
Posted by: rgutty | March 22, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
The biggest spin is that Hillary is the most electable candidate. If she was indeed the most electable candidate, she would be leading in the delegates and the popular vote and in the most states. She is behind in every catagory. Which means Hillary, that the voters do not agree with your assessment. I would have supported Hillary or Barack in the general election. But Hillary would rather cannibalize the Democratic party for her own grandiose self interest. Bill Clinton is ruining the good part of his legacy with his racist comments and now trying to infer that Obama is unpatriotic. They will stop at nothing to win. It’s pathetic and shows their true colors and people can see through the spin. Obama is our next president. If Hillary somehow damages the party and steals the nomination, there will be riots in the street and McCain will be our next president. Go home Hillary. It’s time.
Posted by: Debra Lane | March 22, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am
you know what the fact of the matter is,people generally dislike to hear the truth good or bad but we can find the bad in everyone if we look hard enough everyone makes bad mistakes in their lives, we are not perfect in any shape or form. Clinton & Obama are going to have their lives exposed to us all just because they are running for president of this good ol USA. The real test is when something comes out will they acknowledge it and give us an answer or will they through up excuses and try to explain it away with a smoke screen so we don’t know the truth?
Posted by: neal | March 22, 2008, 8:41 am 8:41 am
The real problem as I see it is that Hillary Clinton and her supporters feel that Mrs. Clinton is “owed” that nomination. Especially after putting up with Bill Clinton and his numeruos infidelities for who knows how many times or years. She (Hillary) feels that the nomination rightfully belongs to her and if she can’t have it then “by God” no one is going to get it. Even if it means destroying the party in the process. What the Clintons fail to realize is many Americans don”t want to go back to those days again. it is truly time for change.
Posted by: Ron | March 22, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
Why is Obama being Judge for what his Pastor Said? Obama is running for President not his Pastor. Obama Should be Judge for his own Personal Statements, Action and Deeds. Obama is not perfect He who has no friend and acquaintances that say things and do things you don’t agree with let him cast the first stone. The media has smeared a man that has inspired a nation to hope and come together. It seems there is a conspiracy in the media to smear Obama at any cost. For What Reason? And Who Would Gain the Most From this Smear Campaign? Who would have thought that a presidential candidate would be judged by his Pastor Statements or for that matter what anyone that he knows might have said or didn’t say.
Posted by: Another Ron | March 22, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
Wright is conscious of the impact of race but aren’t we all and he’s not so radical today. Trinity was founded in 1961, the first black church in the United Church of Christ. (UCC members are Congregationalists, mainline Protestants who trace their history to John Cotton and the Puritans of New England.) The earliest members of Trinity were teachers, people with middle-class jobs, resistant to doing anything radical in terms of justice.
He is not so radical and exclusive–as a leader, Wright heard the testimony of a gay Christian and, he said, he had a conversion experience on gay rights and started one of the first AIDS ministries on the South Side and a singles group for Trinity gays and lesbians which still bothers some of the more conservative Trinity members.
Posted by: Obama Notyoumama | March 22, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
For 20 years, Obama should know the pastor inside and out and it is pretty sure that he knew him well and Obama did not denounce him years ago. Why? Because Obama was ok with what he said. He did not feel the urge to denounce him. So he is running against his campaign, his ideology, united people instead of race. Even so, he now couldn’t disown the pastor. It is obviously that he just talked, using his speeches to put people in the false hope. Now people can see who the real Obama is. Shame on Obama. Why people are still clinging on him for what? Begging for some fake dreams? Obama made a big deal out of “unite” word. We are united anyway and improving. If it is not, I don’t think Obama has a chance to run for the presidency now.
Posted by: ironroof | March 22, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
Wright now, Sen. Obama is in deep kim-chee! CNN reports “Among Pennsylvania Democratic primary voters, Clinton’s lead over Obama more than doubled from last month, according to polls. Obama’s association with Wright appeared to be hurting him as of last weekend.”
Gov. Richardson is an old player, like Kerry and Ted Kenneddy who lost election after another in the past. I don’t think these endorsements matter much, only if you have anything else going for you like for “wright now” for Mr. Obama. If democrats chose Sen. Obama as their nominee, it would a big mistake. The Republicans are going to make Rev. Wright Sen. Obama’s running-mate. It appears Hillary Clinton has the best chance to win the White House in 08!
Posted by: charleschaplin | March 22, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
“arguing that the relationship hurt Obama’s electibility”… IT CERTAINLY DID!! Not because of his association with Reverend Wright but because of his lack of “good judgement”. He wasn’t completely honest about it when first asked if he knew how radical Reverend Wright was. It seems to be a pattern with Obama of telling the media what they want to hear, and then things turn out to be otherwise. Thanks
Posted by: Nancy Whitaker | March 22, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
If they didn’t address it they’d be nuts! It has only been playing wall-to-wall on TV for a week! I live in PA and the local news covers it, the talk shows talk about it and things look very bleak for Sen. Obama here.
Their differences on the issues are very small so the ultimate question IS “Who would win in November?” Lots of moderates and Independents like McCain more than they would’ve liked a Romney or Huckabee.
Obama called his grannie who raised him (while he was a dope-smoking kid in a private school) a “typical white person.” WHAT???!?!? Then he basically said in his speech that Dems voted for Reagan out of resentment about affirmative action and other racial issues. Good move! Insult your own party voters! He ignores the facts that under Carter, there were gas lines & 20% interest rates…and his “misery index” was extremely high. No, Obama’s analysis was it was anti-black resentment.
Oh, and did I mention endorsements from the New Black Panther Party, Louis Farrakan and Manuel “pineapple face” Noriega?
Obama is toast.
Posted by: j9 | March 22, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Still looking for the truth ok
Race card have played beter for who?
Black or White
Posted by: t.v.ed | March 22, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Even with Wright Hillary still cannot win. SHE’S REALLY A LOOSER.
Posted by: Collie | March 22, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
I think everyone should got off of Rev. Wright and worry about the problems your country is having. Loss of lives because of the war, mortgage foreclosures, unemployment. I think electing Hillary will cause you even more problems her and Bill come with alot of baggage they are in the middle of a law suit right now. The press doesn’t seem to be reporting on that. I am glad I live in Canada I can’t believe all the racist remarks.
Posted by: fran canada | March 23, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am
I’m voting Constitution Party this time. Forget the Democrats and Republicans. For the first time,
I contributed to both The Constitution Party and The America First Party
Posted by: Greg | March 23, 2008, 5:45 am 5:45 am
I’m from Illinois and I am supporting Hillary Clinton. The reason being, I think things are going to be really bad the next few years and Hillary has the experience to take them on. She’s proved she can work with people on both sides of the aisle. Obama has no real experience when it comes to running the government. Hillary does. And the lack of judgement comments Obama keeps speaking about…well he went to a church for 20 years and listened to a pastor speak vile things about this country. Obama was getting something out of the messages or he would have stopped going. Is he a closet racist …. you bet.
Posted by: Jean | March 23, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am
At least Hillary didn’t lie this time!
She has already lied about the
“experience” she acquired during her
husband’s presidency!
She has lied about her support for NAFTA!
She lied multiple times about her
position on giving drivers licences to
illegal aliens! What’s her current position?
Why in the world would anyone want to vote for her?
Posted by: reaganfan | March 24, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Hillary Clinton’s pastor came out in defense of Rev. Wright’s comments. WOW!!
Posted by: Pat | March 25, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm