Clinton Fat Cats Hiss at Pelosi
Were a bunch of Clinton donors threatening to withhold contributions to the Democratic House campaign committee if House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., doesn’t change her position on superdelegates?
Not directly, no.
But a brouhaha has erupted over recent comments made by Pelosi on "This Week with George Stephanopoulos", when Pelosi, who will chair the Democratic National Convention, seemed to give a boost to the campaign of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., by saying "If the votes of the superdelegates overturn what’s happened in the elections, it would be harmful to the Democratic Party."
Taking umbrage, a list of big Democratic donors who support the campaign of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., have written a letter to Pelosi (subsequently released to the press) pointing out that "Several states and millions of Democratic voters have not yet had a chance to cast their votes" and arguing "None of us should make declarative statements that diminish the importance of their voices and their votes. We are writing to say we believe your remarks on ABC News This Week on March 16th did just that.
"During your appearance, you suggested super-delegates have an obligation to support the candidate who leads in the pledged delegate count as of June 3rd , whether that lead be by 500 delegates or 2. This is an untenable position that runs counter to the party’s intent in establishing super-delegates in 1984…"
Then the donors — Marc Aronchick, Clarence Avant, Susie Tompkins Buell, Sim Farar, Robert L. Johnson, Chris Korge, Marc and Cathy Lasry, Hassan Nemazee, Alan and Susan Patricof, JB Pritzker, Amy Rao, Lynn de Rothschild, Haim Saban, Bernard Schwartz, Stanley S. Shuman, Jay Snyder, Maureen White and Steven Rattner — reminded Pelosi that they have given generously to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, which helps fund Democratic House races.
"We have been strong supporters of the DCCC." they wrote. "We therefore urge you to clarify your position on super-delegates and reflect in your comments a more open view to the optional independent actions of each of the delegates at the National Convention in August. We appreciate your activities in support of the Democratic Party and your leadership role in the Party and hope you will be responsive to some of your major enthusiastic supporters."
Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly in a statement said, "Speaker Pelosi is confident that superdelegates will choose between Senators Clinton or Obama — our two strong candidates — before the convention in August. That choice will be based on many considerations, including respecting the decisions of millions of Americans who have voted in primaries and participated in caucuses. The Speaker believes it would do great harm to the Democratic Party if superdelegates are perceived to overturn the will of the voters. This has been her position throughout this primary season, regardless of who was ahead at any particular point in delegates or votes."
Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton, noting the donors’ reminder to Pelosi of their largesse, said, "This letter is inappropriate and we hope the Clinton campaign will reject the insinuation contained in it. Regardless of the outcome of the nomination fight, Senator Obama will continue to urge his supporters to assist Speaker Pelosi in her efforts to maintain and build a working majority in the House of Representatives."
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Bill Burton is a joke. What insinuation? They are telling the delegates firmly to play fair and to do their job and not be a biased phony closet Obama supporter like Pelosi & Dean. The Obama campaign would cry if Hillary bought more girl scout cookies than Obama. I’ll be glad when these whiners all go back to their day jobs.
Posted by: Jay | March 26, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
In other words, a vote for Hillary Clinton will be a vote for donors steering politics in the White House and Washington again.
These guys certainly have guts & no shame.
Posted by: Drudd | March 26, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Is there NO LEVEL to which she wouldn’t STOOP?
Posted by: Carl | March 26, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
and well they should, nancy P. got her job as speaker, did a photo op. made the rounds letting people congradulate her. went to her job on monday and sat down and has done nothing else. she had no right to try and force the superdelegates to vote their state. if they did richardson and kerry would go to hillary. I hope we have some real statemen in the superdelegates and will vote and do what is right for the country in the long run.
Posted by: jgaw | March 26, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Clinton and money. The Clintons and their donor and sponsor politics. I get a headache when I think of what I’ve seen of that in the past.
I wish people (and journalists) would carefully study that list of names… Take Hassan Nemazee, a multimillionaire Iranian-American investment banker. Do we want this guy to have influence on an American presidential election?
The Student Movement Coordination Committee for Democracy in Iran accused Nemazee four years ago of being an agent of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Of course, our multi-millionaire denied.
This letter is a fine indication of what opportunities a Clinton presidency would offer to dubious but Very Rich Folks again like Nemazee. And she’s talking about blue collar workers! But a Clinton doesn’t care. She’s in it for the money, the BIG money, and THEREFORE she’s in it to win it.
Posted by: Roderick | March 26, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
I guess its screw the people that voted, it’s a done deal “Hillary will win the primary”!!! The Fat cats and the special interest and lobbyist “The ones that Grease the democrat’s” have spoken.!!!!
Thats why she keeps running – this is the FIX!!!
Posted by: GHM | March 26, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
As long as Hillary gets FL and MI and DNC allows superdelegates from respective states to vote for the winner of states, Hillary should get nominated as she has won most big states. I think Big states have more super delegates than small states.
Posted by: GS | March 26, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Well consideing the amount of money Obama has raised from the small guy, and how much Clinton has taised from the fat cats who cares?
I would like to see the fat cats dry up and go away. This is one of the things Obama has wanted to see happen.
This is my country too. Hillary’s campaign now using mobey as a threat. Great Clinton for small average guy. Ha!
Posted by: Thinking | March 26, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
MY SUGESTION IF HILLARY LOST JUST DO AS LIBERMAN DO, RUNNING AS INDEPENDENT!
Posted by: Boong | March 26, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
For all the Obama minions who say it is over for Hillary her campaign is in it’s death throes and she should drop out now, all she needs to do is win big in PA & Puerto Rico, & West Virgina, Stay close and win by smaller margins in Indiana, Kentucky and North Carolina, and she will be about 37 delegates away from Obama with a few hundred thousand more votes. Does she have a chance? You better believe it! All John Edwards has to do is support Hillary and his 36 delegates plus his one super give it an 1855 to 1855 delegate tie.
So all of you screaming and yelling for Hillary to drop out right now are terrified of this very realist outcome.
Like Hillary said today. This race is far from over.
Posted by: Jay | March 26, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
A “purchased” nomination?
Not if I have anything to say about it.
I thought the United States wasn’t a banana republic yet.
Posted by: Sara | March 26, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
If you want to start talking about “purchased nominations” Mr. Obama is close to the One Million dollar mark on greasing the Super Delegates palms. Is that where all the 5 and 10 dollar donations from people who sacrifice meals are going to? Nice job Mr. Obama. Rob from the poor and giver to the rich.
Posted by: Jay | March 26, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
What Bill Burton was trying to say: “Donors have one purpose only and that’s to give money, not opinions. Heck we don’t listen to our donors, why should you.”
Posted by: smartprimate | March 26, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Is Nancy an Election fixer now.
Nothing like trying to throw your power around and influence people’s votes. That should be illegal.
Is she sucking up to Obama to be on his ticket if he gets to be the nominee?
Neutral and unbiased would keep their trap shut and be neutral and unbiased.
Posted by: seah5 | March 26, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
I really did not understand what Nancy Pelosi babbled about the superdelegates. All I got from it is she wants Obama to be the nominee. Why is that? She doesn’t want Hillary, the most experienced candidate to win! Why is this? Well, she wants a DUMB President to work with her lousy Congress that never gets anything done!
Nancy – just SHUT UP and clarify your position!!!
Posted by: Jkan | March 26, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Dear Senator Nancy Pelosi,
I admire your courage in voicing your opinion and concern for the party. Please be brave and denounce those who threatened you when you spoke the truth about the ongoing dirty fighting and lies that Clinton campaign is spewing out. There are far more good people in this country to support you when the time comes for you to stand for re-election. Think of the good people who were percicuted for standing up against evil. Think of the men and women of US armed forces who are in Afghanistan to fight against crooks that make life miserable for good common people. Be brave. Don’t faulter. Stand up what is right.
Posted by: Dave | March 26, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Why not post the Clinton camp response to the Obama camp attack?
Obama camp should not lecture Clinton donors what to say and what not to say.
If he wins he will need them and no one has done more to build Democratic donors than Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Joan | March 26, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
At least the voters who voted for Clinton knew who they were voting for. The voters who voted for Obama voted because they liked his way of speaking, sometimes it was his words sometimes it wasn’t. Obama voters didn’t know crap about him because the news media has given him a free ride and he for sure didn’t volunteer any information about his association with his pastor. There are many who would not have voted for him if they had known his past. This Democrat will put the Country first. If I have to, I will vote as an Independent and write Hillary’s name in.
Posted by: Mickey | March 26, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
The last people who should be asking for a ‘rejection’ are anyone from the Obama campaign. They really have their sensitivity tuners on high. Instead of twisting and spinning all things negative, why don’t they read it for what the intent was. Bill Burton’s statement shows a willingness in the Obama campaign that they enjoy disenfranchising the votes of the American people.
Way for them to make this letter about them. No where in the letter did say anything about the Obama campaign. They asked Pelosi to clarify her position and asked her to consider being a bit more objective. Geesh, way to read something NEGATIVE into everything.
Posted by: LOM | March 26, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
This is a double game that the HRC has going on now.
Hillary can’t win honestly due to math. Everybody knows this. But if she admits it in public the donor base will go elsewhere. Cash dries up.
So she has to pretend the can win legitimately while engaging in desperate tactics that at the same time demonstrate her weakness.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 26, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
Obama’s donations come from ordinary voters.
Clinton gets most of her donations from Fat Cats and lobbyists.
Perhaps the Fat Cats are worried that should the ordinary voters prevail, they will not get a return on their investment in Clinton.
Posted by: daveJ | March 26, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
CG: You ignored my previous post, so here is the math again. It is still very viable for Hillary to continue in the race:
For all the Obama minions who say it is over for Hillary her campaign is in it’s death throes and she should drop out now, all she needs to do is win big in PA & Puerto Rico, & West Virgina, Stay close and win by smaller margins in Indiana, Kentucky and North Carolina, and she will be about 37 delegates away from Obama with a few hundred thousand more votes. Does she have a chance? You better believe it! All John Edwards has to do is support Hillary and his 36 delegates plus his one super give it an 1855 to 1855 delegate tie.
So all of you screaming and yelling for Hillary to drop out right now are terrified of this very realist outcome.
Like Hillary said today. This race is far from over.
Posted by: Jay | March 26, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Hay most of Hillary’s supporter are woman. Cut it out with the Hissing comments. Anyway Pelosi has been a huge disappointment.
Posted by: Vi | March 26, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Westie and Tonya got Hillary’s back.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 26, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
I guess if you can’t win the most delegates, you get your ultra-rich DC insiders to threaten the democratic party.
Note to the oligarchs: the democratic party doesn’t need you, or the power-crazed Clintons. Go destroy your own party.
Posted by: mg2 | March 26, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
Oh right mg2, Obama’s hands are clean when it comes to the destruction of the Democratic party. He can just say, well, I wasn’t there when the party was being destroyed. I had no knowledge of the destruction, and I voted “present” on that matter..lol
Posted by: Jay | March 26, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
Hillary needs to face reality. Asking pledged delegates to change their votes? She is truly hitting a new low.
Maybe she was under “heavy sniper fire” when she came up with that strategy.
Posted by: ddd | March 26, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Commanderguy: Rev Wrights got Obama’s back! Maybe not it looks like the Obama camp has kidnapped the Rev for (obamas)no I mean his own protection. Obama always looking out for his relatives. Except for his grandmother who he threw under a bus.
Posted by: russell | March 26, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
westcoast, the answer to both of your questions is Obama! Keep asking..
Posted by: Deb | March 26, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
WCM, Larry Sinclair had a hold of something else of Obama’s…Now that’s low….You know the Repubs are holding that story until the general.
Posted by: Jay | March 26, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
I just cringe everytime Pelosi opens her mouth. She clearly wants Obama to win and is pretending to be neutral. All the while she is using her bully pulpit to convince others to follow her. It is totally inappropriate. She is trying to influence this election when there are still 10 contest left – its absurd! Clinton and Obama are tied in the national polls, lets not forget that.
Posted by: MAB2 | March 26, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
I think Pelosi should talk straight to Clinton and propose to follow Mike Gravel’s example. Not by switching to the Libertarian Party, but by joining the Arkansas Women’s Action Fund and stay there.
Posted by: Herbert | March 26, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
Hillary is rotten and corrupt and these Fat cats only damage her more. Bill is not helping her at all with his still lingering laughing matter on Lewinsky. She is mean and nasty and the super-delegates are getting mad at the Clintons for continuing to damage the party.
Posted by: Jay | March 26, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
davej,
Don’t believe all that jazz. I donated to Clinton and believe me I am no fatcat. My 90-year old neighbor donated to Hillary, she is no fatcat, and on and on and on.
Posted by: marie | March 26, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
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Obama stopped re-vote in Fl & MI!
Obama got $250000 Rezko got jail!
Obama and Pelosi fixed the nomination!!
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Pelosi deserves this from the DNC members…..she is trying to manipulate the nomination with Obama…very embarassing for Obama and Pelosi.
Hillary-Edwards ’08
Posted by: MattOhio | March 26, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Nope TCG: we’re not talking 70-30 here.
we’re talking 66-34 , or 60-39, so she doesn’t need numbers that big. with a 58-42 win in PA, she picks up 30 delegates, so your math is a little fuzzy right now.
Posted by: Jay | March 26, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
“Clinton Fat Cats Hiss at Pelosi”
– Obama Girl and Obama dogs bit Clinton.
Posted by: CaneVote | March 26, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Pelosi should have remained neutral and quiet.
Posted by: Deb | March 26, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Hey Hillary and her fans are all right with me. I know people who lie, who dosn’t? G.I. Jane…a real trooper, go for self and if anyone get’s in my way **** em’. We love you because you remind us of how much we want to win. So you go for it, might as well you all ready bought the donuts right? Hey, you may even win this thing, you never know. If you don’t win I won’t think any less of you, you are a fighter. I like that. But if you want to really be the First Lady our First Lady you will be gracious in defeat and work to unite the party.
Obama ’08
Posted by: MIMS NJ | March 26, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
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Obama stopped re-vote in Fl & MI!
Obama got $250000 Rezko got jail!
Obama and Pelosi fixed the nomination!!
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mg2: instead of lecturing other bloggers if you got something sensational to add, please do so….
Hillary-Edwards ’08
Posted by: MattOhio | March 26, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
well obama is a real uniter,first you have major doners in FL saying if their votes dont count they want their money back from the dnc and now you have other major doners to dnc causes giving subtle hints to play fair,so count all the votes and wait until june and lets see as even without FL AND MI she probably will only be behind by 50 to 75 pledged delegates and probably even on popular votes if penn is big enough.so obamaites take a chill pill it aint over yet.
Posted by: don tufts | March 26, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
mg2. I have a life thanks, and part of that life is in support of Mrs. Clinton. Let’s not talk about liars, because Obama can run with the best. All politicians lie. So what was your sad little point again?
Posted by: Jay | March 26, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Westie.
Rough Times and Reality go hand in had.
This blog in the old days asked a question. Is there another politician that one could honestly compare Hillary to. The answer was: ROMNEY.
Hillary=Romney.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 26, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Thank you Deb,
O= Oh My God
B= But does he have a plan?
A= Ah, I don’t think so.
M= Maybe he can copy Hillary
A= Already done that.
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Trivia ?:
Which presidential candidate is still green behind the ears?
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 26, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Well, well, well. The rich people are coming out of the woodwork to buy the election for Hillary. Working class folks need to stand up and be counted.
Nothing like a little nepotism, cronyism and corruption to prop up Hillary’s negative slime campaign.
Posted by: mg2 | March 26, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Pelosi says: “If the votes of the superdelegates overturn what’s happened in the elections, it would be harmful to the Democratic Party.” …..
Well, dear, if Florida and Michigan are not counted that will also be harmful to the party. Disenfranchising the greater majority with those ‘caucuses’ was harmful to our party. Not having a ‘winner take all’ approach to the primaries was harmful to our party. Sen. Obama belonging to a separatist church, embracing his racist minister, labeling us ‘typical white people’, will harm him in the general election which will be harmful to our party. And you telling the superdelegates how to vote is harmful to our party.
Posted by: news worthy | March 26, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Nancy Pelosi and Dean are megalomaniacs. They want to rig the Democratic nominating system. They change the rules continually in order to push down our throats the candidate [Obama] that they want. If you want to change the rules than have super delegates vote for the candidate that won their state. Sorry Bill Richardson, John Kerry and Teddy that means you!
Posted by: Michele | March 26, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
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Obama stopped re-vote in Fl & MI!
Obama got $250000 Rezko got jail!
Obama and Pelosi fixed the nomination!!
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Commander Guy: You have been trying to stick the fork for about a month now….looks like you cant get it done just like Obama….oops
Hillary-Edwards ’08
Posted by: MattOhio | March 26, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
Westie
I have not post any of the inside info yet on Hillary next ploy. But it has been confirmed.
Think superbowl. I’ll say no more.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 26, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
roflmas westcoast!! I needed a good laugh-oh the answer once agian is, as one of my friends says, Obambi!
Posted by: Deb | March 26, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Rust Belt Dood.
Hillary stuck the fork in her campaign through incompetence.
Watchout for sniper fire.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 26, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Jay
The point is that Hillary would rather destroy the party than lose the nomination. She started this course by coming up with the “kitchen sink strategy” when she realized she can’t win the old fashioned way- by getting the most votes.
Look, you’re obviously not even worth engaging. I saw your other pathetic posts on here… diagnosis: NO LIFE.
Posted by: mg2 | March 26, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
MattOhio
Obama can’t close the deal. Neither can the Commander Guy. The best he and his team have been able to do is to try to smear the Clintons in a manner reminiscent of Karl Rove.
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TRIVIA: Which candidate will emerge standing tall after the Pennsylvania tsunami hits?
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 26, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Marie I think it is Obama who is bamboozling and hoodwinking…..
Posted by: Deb | March 26, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Hillary should resign immediately. She has no character, no decency and no trustworthiness. Look at today’s polls. Among the three, McCain, Obama and her, she is the worst when it comes to character and trust. She is plotting to destroy the entire democratic party if she doesnot get the nomination. She wants every vote to be counted, and at the same time, want the super-delegates to overturn the votes. She is phony and a fulltime liar. McCain 08!
Posted by: marie | March 26, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Mg2: Diagnosis: Overdosed on Obama Kool-aid. Time of death…never. Status Walking dead Obama Zombie.
Posted by: Jay | March 26, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
looks like Marie Marie has some honer.
Unlike the others on the board.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 26, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
I don’t see anything wrong with what Pelosi said. If anything these so-called fat cats are overreacting. It seems like they are flexing their muscle to coerce Pelosi into supporting one candidate over another.
Posted by: antenian | March 26, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Hillary is a lying fraud.
Trust me, when you’re under sniper fire you know.
When you’re with your daughter getting flowers from an 8 year old girl… that ain’t what its like when someone is shooting at you.
Why does she have to tell lie after lie after lie.
And how can any normal person believe anything she says?
Posted by: SOS | March 26, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
If a Clinton is interested in running the country, blackmailing powerful people and institutions in our democracy is never far off.
This is what you get when you let fat capitalists invest millions in your political career. That is what we call sowing political corruption in to order to reap power.
And no shame whatsoever! So I suppose it’s Clinton time again, for everyone to see, but luckily that time is running out fast.
Do Clinton’s blue collar workers get what’s going on here? They might think twice if they did.
Posted by: Kurt | March 26, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
MattOhio Try to get at least some of what you are saying at least a little accurate. The revote in FLorida was stopped by the Democrats in Florida NOT OBAMA. THe Michigan revote was objected to by the Obama campaign because of the Hillary donors.. Fat cats trying to buy an election. The ground rules were established in 2006, Florida had a case because they tried to change it back to Feb 5th but the republican lead legislature stopped the change. But the Democratic legislature would not go against the bill becuase it contained other voter rights clauses that the Democrats wanted.. They could have tried to stop it, but other priorities caused them not to fight the republicans. Whereas Michigan did even try even though they where aware of the consequence. Both states thought they were so important the Democrats really would stick to their rules. But the DNC knew that if they didn’t penalize both states that during the next election cycle California would want to be first and then, Iowa would have to be earlier and New Hampshire, and what about Texas. The DNC debates and the rebutals are being played on c-Spann… Go get informed. Pelosi being the highest Democratic leader is trying to remind people of the rules again. Which don’t seem to mean much to Democrats. As Hillary did note that the pledged delegates can change their minds like superdelegates… no rule against it. So go figure even our votes don’t count.
Posted by: goodwins | March 26, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
A few “trivia” questions for WestcoastMessenger, who seems to enjoy them:
Who proposed, one year and two days before Clinton, a commission to deal with the then looming, now horrific, home foreclosure crisis?
Who stood up to an issue regarding a pastor, but did not condone a spouse for desecrating the Oval Office with both an act of infidelity and a follow-up lie under oath.
Who has dealt with allegations regarding Rezko, but has clean hands regarding Peter Paul?
Who is willing to work with both allies and commanders on the ground to bring our troops home in a reasonable time frame, and not require an irresponsible 6 month withdrawal without consultation of the military?
Who has consistently opposed NAFTA, but then got fingered unfairly for the indiscretions of an opponent’s campaign?
Who has released tax records and earmark requests, while the opponent makes excuses?
Who has an unsurmountable lead in pledged delegates, and even with potential losses in some states will still come out ahead?
The answer is Barack Obama.
Posted by: malthusian77 | March 26, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Hillary will be standing tall after Pa-of course obambi will have all his republicans switching to vote for him because they know he can be swiftboated away on their tsunami in the fall-if he makes it that far..
Posted by: Deb | March 26, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Marie: I will give you a pass since you are for McCain. But just this once.
Although I will ask you, why should Hillary get out of the race right now?
She has a chance to go ahead in the popular vote and catch up to within 50 delegates of Obama if she stays in this until all the states vote. That would be just plain silly to drop out now.
Posted by: Jay | March 26, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Looks like Obama had to go all the way to the Virgin Islands just to get out of going to church! How long is he going to keep this up? I know till November! Now if he can just keep his crazy old uncle in the attic, not attend church starts wearing the flag on his lapel,says that he has always loved his country. Forget it no ones going to beleive that looks like we can start calling McCain Mr. President!
Posted by: russell | March 26, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Hillary will be standing tall after Pa-of course obambi will have all his republicans switching to vote for him because they know he can be swiftboated away on their tsunami in the fall-if he makes it that far..
Posted by: Deb | March 26, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Jay: the chance of the Clintons catching up is wafer thin, in both pledged delegates and superdelegates.
Posted by: malthusian77 | March 26, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Clintons think that they can fool Americans again. Its revolting to see the most corrupt couple in entire American history going around shamelessly asking for nomination. They should go into hiding, instead, they strut around as if the Dems owe her the nomination. How dare she? McCain will thrash the bitch. Just waiting for the november election…she may fool the Dems who are like slaves to the clintons, but not the American public. Why is she hiding her tax returns? Who are the Bill Clinton donors? Why is so much money flowing from middle east into her campaign? Who are linked to her secret society? All this will come out soon.
Posted by: marie | March 26, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Deb,
You are quite correct again. Hillary will be standing tall, having prevailed in Pennsylvania by a tsunami. Once again Obambi will prove that he cannot close the deal in the red states.
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Which presidential candidate has surrogates that have actually engaged in public kindergarten-level name calling? Clue: his name starts with the letter O and ends with Bambi.
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 26, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
The reason one goes to a church is to have your beliefs substantiated. Therefore, Obama went to Wright’s church because it made him feel good. NOT A GOOD THING TO MILLIONS OF VOTERS IN THOSE TEN STATES!
Posted by: Mac | March 26, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
Lol westcoast-Obama will need on the job training…
Posted by: Deb | March 26, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
Gee Mal, I thing she is still 35 super delegates ahead. So that is not accurate, plus she can come very close, especially after the newest Obama scandal. Remember the name Emil Jones. If she can win a majority of the votes and 8 of the last 10 states, she has a great case against Obama being totally unelectable in the general. Let’s see how this plays out.
Posted by: Jay | March 26, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
Hillary=Romney.
Sad.
But true.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 26, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Jay,
you’re sad. Ha ha, Obama cool aid. whatever. You wouldn’t say it to my face, son, that is guaranteed. So you have to grow up and come up with something better than that.
Can you come up with a cogent argument to refute Hillary’s single-handed transformation of the race into a nasty, Clinton-style mud fight? Of course not. It’s a widely accepted fact. She’d rather destroy the party that lose the job she feels is owed to her after waiting in the wings for 35 years of Bill’s career. Nepotism, greed, deceit. That’s ok for shakespeare, not politics.
I supposed you believed her when she said George Bush “tricked her” into voting for War. That’s a good one. George Bush couldn’t trick a monkey out of his banana, but he fooled Hillary on the biggest foreign policy question in a generation. Is that what you call passing the “commander in chief test”?
Posted by: mg2 | March 26, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Marie,
Which presidential candidate is trying to fool us about his 20 year relationship with a hate speaking pastor? Why did he put the pastor on his campaign if he knew how the guy talked? How will this candidate run government in relation to HIS clergy?
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 26, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Another “trivial” fact: Obama was FOR a revote in FL and MI. He just wanted it to be legally legitimate. It would have helped his delegate count had it happened.
Posted by: malthusian77 | March 26, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Hey all you Obama supporters….
Have you read Obamas Global Poverty Act
You know, the one that makes the United Staes subservient to the United Nations??? Not sure if I would vote for a candidate that believes in this..
Posted by: Deb | March 26, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
mg2, yeah buddy, I would say it exactly to you face. I am a really big guy, but I am not an internet bully like you. Let’s see 72 other Senators got fooled by Bush too, including John Kerry and Rockefeller. You know those guys that support Obama? Need I say more?
Politics is a very dirty contact sport. I was born and raised in Chicago, and Obama is as dirty as they come. Hillary is just a little tougher.
Posted by: Jay | March 26, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
MG2,
Jay is cool, knowledgeable, and deals with the issues. I would be more than happy to say it to your face, you are an unabashed member of the Obama zombie nation. I’ll be glad to meet you in the street in Colorado where I can guarantee you there will be thousands that will be joining me to demonstrate if the DNC thinks its going to disenfranchise two major states. I’m willing to stand down pepper spray and rubber bullets, so bring it. It’s all about the vote.
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Does Obama want to disenfranchise Florida and Michigan? Is he standing up for the voters in those states? What exactly is he doing about Flordia and Michigan. Huh, mg2, huh, huh, huh?
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 26, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
I can’t in good conscience vote for a habitual liar. I mean, look at hillary’s career. It’s one scandal after another. Do we really need that for another 8 years? The whole 10,000% cattle futures profit is downright creepy. The woman is a drag.
At least with McCain and Obama I trust what they are saying.
Posted by: mag | March 26, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
There is one Marie here. period.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 26, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
Once again, for those who read as well as post:
Who proposed, one year and two days before Clinton, a commission to deal with the then looming, now horrific, home foreclosure crisis?
Who stood up to an issue regarding a pastor, but did not condone a spouse for desecrating the Oval Office with both an act of infidelity and a follow-up lie under oath.
Who has dealt with allegations regarding Rezko, but has clean hands regarding Peter Paul?
Who is willing to work with both allies and commanders on the ground to bring our troops home in a reasonable time frame, and not require an irresponsible 6 month withdrawal without consultation of the military?
Who has consistently opposed NAFTA, but then got fingered unfairly for the indiscretions of an opponent’s campaign?
Who has released tax records and earmark requests, while the opponent makes excuses?
Who has an unsurmountable lead in pledged delegates, and even with potential losses in some states will still come out ahead?
The answer is Barack Obama.
Posted by: malthusian77 | March 26, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Old McCain dinner joke…”Do you know why chelsea is so ugly? cause, Janet Reno is the dad!” McCain 08!!!
Posted by: marie | March 26, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
tax returns have less info in them than people think-if there was something it would already be out there-keep dreaming about those returns…
Posted by: Deb | March 26, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
I will vote down Obama no matter what.
Posted by: CaneVote | March 26, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
This is the fundamental problem with Clinton supporters; they feel the rules don’t apply to Hillary.
Michigan and Florida chose to break the rules of the Party for their own self-aggrandizement and deserve the punishment they knew was forthcoming.
Let’s join together to move this country forward, and not backward into the divisive and hateful politics of the Bush/Clinton past.
Posted by: Not_THAT_Woman | March 26, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
jay
ok. let’s assume you’re a big tough guy like you said..
…but you’re still totally ignoring the issue. I’ve wasted about 20 minutes waiting to see if you can actually answer with some substance and all you put up is the line about being an obama zombie or drinking obama kool aid or whatever.
Then you log in as “west coast mess” and declare how cool and knowledgeable “Jay” is. Hilarious. But totally pathological and sad at the same time. Good night.
Posted by: mg2 | March 26, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
I’m tired of the Bush administration treating us all like mindless puppets. McCain is more of the same. Clinton and Obama have somewhat similar policies, but Obama has better clarity and vision. He is also the better candidate to beat McCain, who as lost track of Sunnis and Shiites.
Posted by: malthusian77 | March 26, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
well, I changed my mind and stay here and will open up all of Hillary’s skeletons in the closet. She cannot go on fooling Americans. Clintons are the most corrupt couple in the entire American history. They just want to get back to Whitehouse to stop all the rotten things from coming to light in 2012 when clinton papers will be released to the public. Americans should know their conspiracy and stop them from ever stepping back into that whitehouse. McCain 08!!!
Posted by: marie | March 26, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
I can’t in good conscience vote for a habitual liar. I mean, look at hillary’s career. It’s one scandal after another. Do we really need that for another 8 years? The whole 10,000% cattle futures profit is downright creepy. The woman is a drag.
At least with McCain and Obama I trust what they are saying.
Posted by: mag | March 26, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
If I was Nancy Pelosi I would keep my mouth shut. As speaker, her poll numbers are worse than George Bush. That’s pretty damn hard to master!
Under her leadership, I find it hard pressed to find a worse speaker of the house. She has done nothing but fuel the fires to keeping fighting between the partys.
She is up for re-election this year. VOTE HER OUT OF OFFICE!
Posted by: Democrat CA Voter | March 26, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
MattOhio or WCM — Do you guys know anything about the Woods Foundation? What’s that about?
Posted by: LOM | March 26, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
few “trivia” questions for WestcoastMessenger, who seems to enjoy them:
Who proposed, one year and two days before Clinton, a commission to deal with the then looming, now horrific, home foreclosure crisis?
Who stood up to an issue regarding a pastor, but did not condone a spouse for desecrating the Oval Office with both an act of infidelity and a follow-up lie under oath.
Who has dealt with allegations regarding Rezko, but has clean hands regarding Peter Paul?
Who is willing to work with both allies and commanders on the ground to bring our troops home in a reasonable time frame, and not require an irresponsible 6 month withdrawal without consultation of the military?
Who has consistently opposed NAFTA, but then got fingered unfairly for the indiscretions of an opponent’s campaign?
Who has released tax records and earmark requests, while the opponent makes excuses?
Who has an unsurmountable lead in pledged delegates, and even with potential losses in some states will still come out ahead?
The answer is Barack Obama.
Posted by: malthusian77 | March 26, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Cheaters lose in the long run. Con artists are usually found out when their time comes. Bullies run out of leverage sooner or later. In Chicago, we were taught to punch a bully in the nose and he’ll leave you alone. But in this campaign, we’ve watched the Clinton camp use all types of tactics to increase their leverage in trying to pry the Nomination from Obama. Obama hasn’t punched the Clinton’s in the nose yet, but the voters have, and Pelosi knows it. And she has the good sense not to get punched in the nose by the Amercian voter. She also has the wherewithal not to draw her party into a losing battle with the American public, no matter how aggressive or menacing Clinton’s bullies think they are. There’s too much at stake for the Democratic Party to sink because some bullies feel entitled to take what they want.
Posted by: ji_john | March 27, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
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Obama stopped re-vote in Fl & MI!
Obama got $250000 Rezko got jail!
Obama and Pelosi fixed the nomination!!
Obama lied about passing the Immigration CIRR bill!!
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Obama served as a paid Director of a non-profit organization ( the Woods Foundation) that granted funding to a controversial Arab group that mourns the establishment of the State of Israel.
The co-founder of the group is Rashid Khalidi of Columbia Univ.,who is described in the article as a harsh critic of Israel.
Obama was a Director from 1999 to 2002 and was compensated $6000 per year.
Hillary-Edwards ’08
Posted by: MattOhio | March 27, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
Hey, “Marie,” you are a liar! You definitely are not someone who just changed their mind. You are a shill for Obama nothing more. You are the nastiest person I have met on the list. But then you have the love, the understanding, the man with a vision, after all, aimed at conciliation. How very perfect
Posted by: mariefrommass | March 27, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Bottom line is that Hillary voted for Bush’s idiotic wasteful war. She didn’t even read the national intelligence estimate before sending young americans into war. I mean, she knows what it’s like to take sniper fire, right? Why read the actual intelligence report? She had her chance to lead… and FAILED MISERABLY because she wanted to appear “presidential.”
I can’t support her. Plus she’s a compulsive and self-aggrandizing liar. McCain and Obama are at least decent people, and give the American people a reasonable choice.
Posted by: LiZ | March 27, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
The fight between Hillary and Obama sigifies more than a mere presidential contest. This bitter fight will determine the character and future of the Democratic Party. If Bill and Hillary win we remain an ill-defined, weak, limp-wristed (like out present congress) corporatist “republican light.” If Obama wins we break free of the Clinton/Reid/DLC compromises and become progressive.
Posted by: Bill | March 27, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
jay, thanks, i really think that clintons are fooling far too long the gullible americans. sometime or the other, truth has to come out and the truth is, hillary is a total corrupt politician, who thinks only of herself. She has no love for anyone besides her, she will ditch her husband Bill the day she loses the nomination. She has no character and it shows through her smile and skin. I just dont understand how some Dems are still following this corrupt b*tch, no matter what happens to the party. They come across as idiots and stupid to the core. I would have voted for any other woman, but not for her. Laura Bush is 100 times a better lady than hillary and I will strongly ask all women to go for her. Not for Hilary, never ever. vote McCain 08!!!
Posted by: marie | March 27, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
Bill: well said. Obama is the only chance that Democrats have.
Posted by: malthusian77 | March 27, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
Are you talking about bretton woods?
Posted by: Deb | March 27, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
How many antisemites are directly or indirectly related with the Obama campaign? Relationships like these that keep popping up are really starting to worry me.
Posted by: LOM | March 27, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
Wake me when Mrs. Clinton finally has the good sense to bow out, for the sake of her party, and go back to work as and adequate senator.
Posted by: Mokopane | March 27, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
Isn’t threatening the Speaker of the
House a federal offense?
Isn’t it time for Hillary Clinton and her Obnoxious Husband to be shown the
Door!
You Can’t win the Nomination without
stealing it! But then again I guess that’s ok for the Clintons and their
supporters!
Talk about disenfanchising voters!
Obama has the most votes, delegates, and
has won the most states!
Case Closed! Get Lost Bill and Hillary!
Posted by: reaganfan | March 27, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
If the rich donors are angry because Hillary’s losing, we should all just do whatever they want. We need to keep rich powerful people happy. The USA is still an oligarchy, right?
Recent presidential history:
Bush/ Clinton/ Clinton/ Bush/ Bush/ ??????
nepotism anyone?
Posted by: trs1961 | March 27, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
LOM it is a regulated international monetary system. In ’71< Ithink that was the year, it was reformatted-now it is the world bank and the international monetary fund
Posted by: Deb | March 27, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
Sounds to me like Obama is making a threat: my supporters will help you get elected and maintain congressional majority. So not a money threat; but still a threat about power.
What a stinker he is — can’t stand him!!
Posted by: scorbs | March 27, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
“I will vote down Obama no matter what.”
LOL
The Caesar complex?
Posted by: Hurt | March 27, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
The root cause of all animosity and bitterness is Hillary. They divided the Americans in the 90s and now the clintons are determined to divide the democratic party in the 21st century!!! What a tragedy!!! The blue collar dems are slowly realizing that the clintons are not good for the party anymore.
Posted by: Steve | March 27, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
I just saw that Obama is related to Bush. We don’t want a Bush third term.
Posted by: Ken | March 27, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
LOM: I don’t think this should be about religion, but my Jewish friends sport the Obama bumper stickers on their cars. They got them from me, a good Christian, who donated to the Obama campaign to get them.
P.S. My friends have also donated to Obama.
Posted by: Mokopane | March 27, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
Pelosi should be warned. She should show her leadership. If superdelegates follows the voters, then are they super?
She should know that Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Bill Richardson already turned over the voters view in their states.
If she can not ask Kennedy, Kerry and Richardson to change their votes, then she can not force other superdelegates to vote as she wants. They should have independent view.
The superdelegate should nominate the one who they think is the strongest nominee in their party regradless of what voters did.
Because some voters are misled.
Pelosi, you may pay price later by saying things showing you are afraid. You should lead the voters, not follow the voters.
Posted by: golfgirlusa | March 27, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Cool down, people.
Just wait see all those blue collar workers’ reaction to Clinton’s tax returns in April.
It will be the end of her.
In the meantime, let’s enjoy life.
And in the GE: let’s roll.
Posted by: Gretchen | March 27, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
6 MORE reasons why Dems should avoid Hillary:
1. If you are AGAINST Lowering taxes for middle class families.
2. If you are AGAINST a health plan that covers all Americans and improves health care by lowering costs and improving quality.
3. If you are AGAINST recruiting and retaining thousands more outstanding teachers and principals, especially in urban and rural areas.
4. If you are AGAINST creating global coalitions to tackle global problems like climate change, poverty, AIDS, and terrorism.
5. If you are AGAINST comprehensive immigration reform that respects our immigrant heritage and honors the rule of law.
6. If you are AGAINST transforming our economy from carbon-based to clean and energy efficient.
YES, if you are against resolving many of the major issues afflicting our country today, you should definitely avoid voting for Hillary.
Posted by: LOM | March 27, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
I meant some voters are misled by Obama.
Posted by: golfgirlusa | March 27, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
Jay: Do your math again. The Clintons need 64.2% of the remaining pledged delegates to even catch Obama. She is nowhere near that number in PA, and will fare worse in most other states.
Had she had the best interest of her party in mind, she would have gracefully bowed out long ago.
Posted by: malthusian77 | March 27, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am
What a nation, you want to end up picking these dummies!!!! Senior Bush/Bill Clinton, then JuniorBush/Hill Clinton, then JebbBush/ChelseaClinton.
Keep rotating between these two moronic and corrupt families and keep the rest of Americans out! Hell with the hillary supporters!!! You are doing neither any good to the nation and definitely nor for the Dems. You deserve to be called idiots!!!
Posted by: Steve | March 27, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
I don’t agree Mal, I did the math, she doesn’t have to over take him, she just need to close the gap to under 100 or better yet 50 delegates. Her getting out a long time ago would be a perfect world for Mr. Obama, long before he could be vetted or tied to a racist pastor or Rezko, but the reality is, it will end at the floor of the convention. We both know that.
Posted by: Jay | March 27, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
My family IS Jewish, not just some friends. And I think it’s fair to have reservations about anybody who is associated with folks with antisemitic views. I’m not implying that Obama is an antisemite, but would question his judgment to be associated with anyone who is, especially since Israel is our ally and he is running for POTUS. Words matter and so do actions–I want to be assured that his actions match his words.
Posted by: LOM | March 27, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
LOM,
that’s not Hillary, that’s the general Democratic agenda for America. Hillary the divider however will not be able to get these issues tackled, just as she has alienated even Democrats from universal health care in the past. The majority does not trust her, and that’s a BIG problem for gettings things done in Washington.
Posted by: Kurt | March 27, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
Thanks Steve, and of course you as an Obama supporter are an Idiot-in-training
Posted by: Jay | March 27, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
Hey Hurt,
No matter what? It’s a wonder you will be able to find the polling booth considering how far up your butt your head is.
And Obama stands for……..?
I suppose his 20+ years under the reverand + 3 FULL years in the senate, qualifys him to be the President. Oh yeah, his time in Chicago has made him a seasoned “politician” as well. Hmmmmmm
Posted by: Buchele | March 27, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
The latest poll among jewish voters showed that they split in a tie between Clinton and Obama, just as all Democrats are. Likud may fear Obama, because he does not like Likud politics that much, Labour however does not.
Posted by: Kurt | March 27, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
Kurt — Then you have effectively proven once again (settle down now Obama supporters) that Hillary *must* be the biggest LIAR on Earth because those are a handful of things she wants to address and has a roadmap to start tackling those issues.
And when was the last time anything “really” got done in Washington? I see congress is doing a great job and enjoying an approval rating less than the President (which I never thought possible).
Posted by: LOM | March 27, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
jkan wrote:
I really did not understand what Nancy Pelosi babbled about the superdelegates. All I got from it is she wants Obama to be the nominee. Why is that? She doesn’t want Hillary, the most experienced candidate to win! Why is this? Well, she wants a DUMB President to work with her lousy Congress that never gets anything done!
I think I agree with you.
My 2 cents: I’m surprised Pelosi found the time to make a statement, what with her visit to the Dalai Lama and all.
Wonder how much that cost the taxpayers?
Posted by: None in 08 | March 27, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
Marie,
The fact is I do not support Hillary or Obama, I support McCain, even though he has a liberal steak in him. I am concerned with McCains immigration stance and his economic experience but I think he has a great deal to offer over all.
Unfortunatly it appears you can’t read or you would have picked up on that.
My beef is with people like you spouting things out as if they are facts, just as you did. It doesn’t help the conservative cause, it just hurts us.
Get back to your “fact making machine” and leave this up to adults. This is big people talk….
Posted by: buchele | March 27, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
Marie,
Grow up.
Posted by: Buchele | March 27, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am
dave, you forgot to add that millions of dollars are coming from middle-east donors into hillary campaign. Who are these smugglers helping her and his foundation? Americans need to know the truth. CLINTONS ARE CORRUPT, WHY ARE THEY HIDING THEIR TAX RETURNS, HIDING THEIR DONORS LIST, HIDING THEIR MIDDLE-EAST BROKERS?
Posted by: Steve | March 27, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
None in 08 quotes jkan:
“All I got from it is [Pelosi] wants Obama to be the nominee. Why is that?”
Posted by: Navarro | March 27, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
haviland smith writes:
“Could it be that Pelosi wants the vice-presidential slot in an Obama administration, a factor that would explain her tainted viewpoints and tilt toward Obama and his pledged delegates?”
Posted by: Navarro | March 27, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
It’s just another monkey wrench thrown into the Democratic Party leadership’s plans to engineer the coup d’etat and coronation of Precious. Hmm, do they risk proceeding and losing lots of money or would they rather face the planned putsch by Obama supporters in Denver if the superdelegates vote according to their conscience? Thank you, Howard Dean, for your brilliant leadership!
Posted by: Mac | March 27, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
Superdelegates are supposed to make their best judgment as to who the nominee should be. That’s why they are superdelegates and not in the same category as delegates. They are not “elected” delegates by a state primary or caucus. Let superdelegates be superdelegates. Perhaps the Democratic party needs to change the rules but that is not how it is now. I am against open primaries and caucuses. I believe a closed primary for registered Democrats is what the party should institute. However for this election it is what is. Hillary Clinton has every right to fight on for the nomination. That’s what we, her supporters, want her to do. We will never believe or agree that simply because Obama and his supporters keep insisting what superdelegates must do that it makes it so. Obama does not have an inherent right to the nomination without the required number of delegates. We will not be Obamatized; we will not fall for your tactics; we will not allow you to shut down the nomination process.
Posted by: J. | March 27, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
Clinton supporters bring up Ted Kennedy and others because he/they are supporting Obama even though his/their states voted for Hillary.
You might want to rethink that argument.
Hillary got most of her endorsements before the primaries even began (a far, far greater number than Obama), and MANY of her super-delegates have gone against the voters of their state and/or districts.
I am from Oregon. Our state is expected to vote heavily for Obama in our primary in May; however, our governor Ted Kulongowski, a super-delegate, has not only endorsed Clinton but is campaigning for her in Pennsylvania as well.
There are Oregon senators that have already pledged for Clinton as well.
Posted by: nandssmith | March 27, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
Just proves what I’ve said about Clinton , that she’s a corporate and lobby loving Republicrat . Look who her contributors are . Lets not forget about her ” lobbyists are people too ” in regards to taking special interest and lobby money . She is a fraud and a liar , part of the entrenched corrupt system . Just one problem for these fat cat Clintonite donors now , the Dem party is not so dependent on them , Obama has out raised them all ,small individual contributers giving 150 dollars or less .Tell em to shove it Pelosi !
Posted by: john | March 27, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
Looks like the special interest groups are trying to influence the election by threatening to hold back money for future House races. This is exactly what Obama is talking about. Politicians need to be free to use their own judgement without worrying about some special interest money!!!
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 27, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
Furthermore, Pelosi’s responsibility is to the well being of the democratic Party. Yes, Hillary is correct about the roles of the Super Delegates but Pelosi is also right about what it would do to the party if they overturned the will of the voters. The party is already fractured and it could get worse unless this fight ends immediately. Clinton does not care if she destroys the Party. Her own ambitions come first. Is this really what we want in a President?
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 27, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
Take down the elected black man. You will lose the black vote you smucks.Hillary Clinton is no more qualified than her lying husband, who never paid down the national debt.
Check out Yahoo and search, (Public Debt to the Penny). Look at the left hand side of the page for, (Historical Debt Outstanding). Click on it.
This is the Treasury Departments website. The last time the debt was paid down was 1957.
Bill Clinton never had a surplus and never paid down the national debt. It was all a big lie. Just like Hillaries sniper lie. President Bush gave everyone a tax cut on the lie. He won the election promising a tax cut on Bill Clinton’s lie.
The Treasury Department doesn’t lie about it’s figures. Check out the website before you post a rebuttle. It’s about time everyone knew, about the lie’s that the Clinton’s conjure up, every waking moment of the day.
But the Clinton’s have more experience….at lying…..yes they do.
But do we need another liar in the White House? Why would I vote for someone that looks me in the eye and constantly lies?
What experience does Hillary Clinton really have? If she really had experience….she wouldn’t need to make it up. War hero…in her own mind….dodging sniper fire…..what a joke.
Posted by: Steven Wilson | March 27, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
Good thing the donors scolded Pelosi’s bias mouth. She should not make a prejudgment call to the superdelegates because the rule is they can vote whoever they want regardless of the primary results. That is the purpose of their job.. to discern who will be the best to beat McCain. Judging from the past events and opinion surveys, Obama is failing and can never win. He won only the early part because the Wright factor has not been released to the public by the media. Humans have fear, prejudice, and preferences and these have played an important role in their votes. Obama has fallen from their preference except the die hard Obama supporters ( I guess they are now thinking ) On the other hand, Pelosi is not helping the democrats, she should not be Speaker of the House. She does not deserve that respect when she went to see the Dai Lama at the expense of China.. that is hurting the US-china relations, the fact she is the head of the House of the Representatives.
Posted by: asd | March 27, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
In all the democracies in the world the person will the largest vote win.
Obama has the more vote so you should win.
After lot of interest in the US primaries around the world, the rest of the world lost complete interest and worst people are overwhelmingly stun by this type of democracy that describe itself as the best. I think that US politicians should go study democracy in Zimbabwe.
Posted by: leche | March 27, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
Pelosi is one of the many reasons why i am thinking of giving another party a try. As a house speaker she should behave like a neutral leader not try to push down our throats Obama. Pelosi we are not dumb we know who you support. If you are a experienced house speaker and a party leader then you should know the rules that apply to the superdelegates. So please shut the hell up and let the process take place by the rules, not by how you feel or think it should be. No one has made you Queen so get down from the throne.
Posted by: Persio | March 27, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
Superdelegates,
Stand up to Pelosi’s cheap intimidation tactics to try to corrupt the rules in Obama’s favor. She knows the rules permit judgement. She is attempting an extortive influence against your judgement. She should be helping resolve the Michigan and Florida problem, but instead is trying this monkey business.
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Does Obama want Florida and Michigan voters to be disenfranchised?
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 27, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
In a true democracy the will of the people should prevail. Hillary would be singing a different song if she were ahead in popular vote, contests won, and pledged delegates. Throughout this primary she has changed the goal posts in her desperate effort to win. She will destroy anything that gets in the way of her quest for power.
Newsweek hit the nail on the head with ‘…the Clintons approach power the way hard-core gun owners approach a weapon—they’ll give it up only when it’s wrenched from their cold, dead fingers.’
Bill Clinton blatantly lied to the nation and was impeached. He has zero credibility. He has been a good tutor to Hillary.
Posted by: DaveJ | March 27, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
The super delegates are an issue, and as mentioned previously, many have endorsed candidates prior to their primary, or have endorsed a different candidate then their stae chose. BHO, for example, has at least fifty–yes I counted- superdelegates from staes that went Hillary. If you take 50 of BHO and at them to Hillary it is almost a dead heat…
Perhaps using the term “most experienced” is not the best choice of terms. What Hillary is is the most informed, knowledgeable, and internationally seasoned of the candidates. She is well versed in issues and can talk extemporaniously about any subject with knowledge and insight. Definitely NOT so for BHO.
If BHO becomes the nominee, I will vote Mccain, and BHO will be off the democrats list of candidiates in future races since previously run candidiates are not given “do-overs” in the next election cycle.
Posted by: fedup | March 27, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am
Pelosi does not understand the rules. It seems she exhibited questionable judgment and caused grievous harm to the party. May be it is time Steny Hoyer and other leaders step up and relieve her of the burden of the Office of the Speaker of the House.
Also, the democratic party by refusing to give Florida and Michigan the chance to weigh in is saying that they don’t need their votes. Florida and Michigan should respect the DNC and Obama camp’s message and should not give any votes in the General Election.
Of course, those of us who are Clinton supporters will vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee for the disrespect Obama’s camp had shown towards President Clinton and Senator Clinton.
My request to Clinton supporters, please vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee. If McCain wins, Hillary can run again 2012.
If Obama can throw his grand mother under the bus, he deserves no less.
Posted by: Roger Miller | March 27, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am
I think the letter states a firm request that Pelosi should butt out and not interfere with the outcome of a contest NOT complete. NO ONE has the magic number..without FL and MI, NO ONE WILL. The donors had it right when they simply stated a fact. We won’t be there to support you if you don’t let “nature take it’s course.” This was NOT blackmail.
Posted by: Darla | March 27, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am
Let me explain this fact to every one.
If Hillary gets the support of 2024 delegates, she will be the nominee.
The super delegates don’t vote en masse because Pelosi said so. The democratic members of the House elected Steny Hoyer when Pelosi wanted Murth to be the majority leader even after she issued threats of having no place on important committees. So, Pelosi would be lucky if she gets to be speaker after November.
If average folks like you and me can exercise independent judgment, so will the Super Delegates.
It is clear Teddy Kennedy, John Kerry and Bill Judas Richardson don’t give a fig leaf to how voters voted. So, the rest of the Super Delegates should exercise their independent judgment.
Of course, every super delegate’s political life will take a turn. There will be primary challenges or general election opponents will tar them with helping 9/11 terrorist attack supporters
by supporting Obama. Of course, courtesy Rev. Wright, they get to add lot of good video content.
This is the time to take down Pelosi, Kennedy and Judas Richardson. I will vote for Mitt Romney against Teddy Kennedy.
Posted by: Roger Miller | March 27, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am
I already paid my 2007 income tax so that means I have the right to watch the Clinton/Obama show till the end. You Obamaniacs cannot shove down our throat your candidate because we Hillary supporters don’t want him. We would be better off with McCain than with Obama.
Hillary 08 and beyond
Posted by: RDCK | March 27, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am
“She does not deserve that respect when she went to see the Dai Lama at the expense of China.. that is hurting the US-china relations, the fact she is the head of the House of the Representatives.”
Pelosi is famous for going out on a limb and visiting dangerous leaders without pre-qualifying..So China paid her way? She is walking on shaky ground. Her constituents in CA are watching and I wouldn’t doubt if they unseat her.
She’s lazy too. Google her on You Tube and you will get an eye full.
On another note; she always looks like she is on drugs. No offense but that’s what it looks like to me. Of course what do you expect. Her constituents are from the tenderloin in San Francisco. (‘kidding but close to it).
CA is watching and not liking what they see.
Posted by: Lou | March 27, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am
The tide is turning, what a song. small people has more say now than those big ones that have money, speaker Pelosi knows that, the small ones have more money now than the big ones and those small ones can now fight those warlords in Washington DC…the tide is turning.
Posted by: alexis compton | March 27, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am
She just writes it as it comes. What a way to run a country. This woman needs to go home. She said they will decide the election prior to the convention. This is
the Democratic party at its finest folks.
Write off states and take the election process over.
Posted by: John | March 27, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am
Hillary Clinton’s positive rating has dropped to a new low of 37 percent in an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll released on Wednesday. John McCain has an open field and his approval ratings continue to climb. McCain’s team is fresh and gearing up for the race to Nov. Barack and Hillary’s campaign staffs are in danger of burning out before the general race even starts. The Democrat leaders have a choice to saddle up with Bill and Hillary and let this bloodbath continue or saddle up and take on McCain and his team as a unified Democrat Party. Hillary has a 5 percent chance of winning the Democrat Nomination, and according to her own pollster she has to go even more negative. We already see this happening. Is this war worth it? Vote Obama!
Posted by: Katherine | March 27, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am
Clinton has been caught telling a lie so flagrant, so self-serving and so unnecessary that it takes your breath away
Posted by: DaveJ | March 27, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am
This goes to show what special can do. Hillary is a liar. I don’t believe anything she says anymore. And I am extremely serious. Every statement she makes i have to research it to find out if it is true. Moreover, she keeps quoting experience, but she won’t back it up with document she has chosen to hide. Hey, Clinton big donors, take your money and go help Hillary pay the debt she will have after she finish messing herself up including not holding public office.
Posted by: Grace | March 27, 2008, 3:24 am 3:24 am
A poll says 28% Clinton voters will not vote for Obama if he is the nominee. The pundits say, may be, they will fall in line by November.
Fall in line by November? I will keep voting for the Republican party until the republicans nominate their own Obama.
Chris Matthews will feel one huge tingle go up his leg when he finds out his heart throb Obama will not be president.
Obama, No you can’t.
Posted by: Roger Miller | March 27, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am
This goes to show what special interest can do. Hillary is a liar. I don’t believe anything she says anymore. And I am extremely serious. Every statement she makes i have to research it to find out if it is true. Moreover, she keeps quoting experience, but she won’t back it up with documents she has chosen to hide and not bring out in public. Hey, Clinton big donors, take your money and go help Hillary pay the debt she will have after she finish messing herself up including not holding public office. Pelosi, you are a true lady. If you were running for president, I will vote for you.
Posted by: Grace | March 27, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am
Those guys thought they were talking to one of Hillary’s, she & Bill praises about them, uneducated voters who are blind about the Clinton scandals.
Pelosi is educated and knows they are threatening the party.
Clintons can’t fight their own fights. They lost so lets strong arm the party.
Clinton & Obama brings in more money than those clowns. What morons!
Good for you Pelosi, stand up to those idiots!!!!!!!! Hillary is just two percentage points away from GWB in popularity. Bill ruined his legacy.
McCain 08?
Posted by: JerryZ | March 27, 2008, 3:32 am 3:32 am
Pelosi, Richardson, Kerry, and Kennedy are for Obama now, so much for Hillary being the Democratic establishment’s candidate that superdelegates should support…
I think the only strong base for her is now the woman’s vote. Obama can win Latinos in the general election if he elects Richardson as a VP.
Posted by: Jesse08 | March 27, 2008, 3:34 am 3:34 am
Come to think of it, now even women have a net unfavorable rating of Hillary, wow, world of hurt…
Posted by: Jesse08 | March 27, 2008, 3:35 am 3:35 am
Obama is having almost 213 superdelegates ‘under his belt’.
Sean
Posted by: Sean | March 27, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am
Who said those people were lobbiest? They were a small group of people from a blog like this who had written the letter to Pelosi. They’d been donating to the DNC for years. Don’t forget that The bulk of Hillary supporters are downline Democrats and not cross overs.
They are people who have been with the Democrat party for years upon years and they feel very slighted. They are frustrated so they have to do what they have to do. Democrat is not just a “party’ but a whole concept and way of life and when this election touts behavior unlike a true Dem then the downline begins to gets retaliatory. The downline have been feeling very hurt over this election. When the election is over they will be faced with feeling disenfranchised and upstaged by cross overs. Now this may not make sense unless you have an idea of what personal identity there is in being a downline Dem. There is lots of pride at stake. Also, the Democratic candidate is not being chosen by Democrats in this election and that may be the underlying resentment in the race. You can understand if the Dems ganged up and voted for the next Republican nominee.
It is hardly reefected of the true voice of the Republican party and what it stands for.
It’s deep but I gave it a shot at explaining. It’s not easy.
Posted by: Lou | March 27, 2008, 3:53 am 3:53 am
Pelosi if you are so concerned about the voice of the people, you should figure out a way to have the votes of Michigan and Florida be heard? If you don’t McCain will win in November irregardless of wether or not Obama or Hillary is the nominee. It will be the most run ad by the republicans. Nothing Hillary or Obama has done thus far in this campaign will have a greater sound byte in November than the democrats not recognizing our most important right as a democracy, our right to vote. Sometimes, I think Pelosi is against any situation that guarantees a democratic president. She went negative on the dream ticket idea publicly. Has the DNC even considered that an Obama – Hillary or Hillary- Obama ticket guarantees a win in November? In one election year, either ticket will put both an African American and a woman in the white house.
That would be something..wouldn’t it? But alas it is called a dream ticket for a reason.
Posted by: mona | March 27, 2008, 4:13 am 4:13 am
I’d say this is pretty simple.
1. Bush lost the popular vote to Al Gore – democrats always considered him an illegitimate president.
2. Republicans got a bit too smug after a long period in power, and lost big time in the 2006 elections.
If the superdelegates decide to overrule voters – we will be back to square one – an illegitimate candidate, and a majority party that has gotten a bit too smug a bit too quickly.
If Hillary wants the nomination, she better win it fairly – by winning the popular vote. If she doesnt get the popular vote, the gracious thing to do would be to withdraw before forcing the superdelegates to choose.
Posted by: doudgaro | March 27, 2008, 5:05 am 5:05 am
From Sen. Obama’s radical stance on abortion to his prominence in the corruption scandals that has been virtually ignored by the mainstream media, Barack Obama is not fit to be Senator — not to mention the next President of the United States.
THE FACT IS THAT MR. OBAMA BETRAYED THE TRUST OF EARLY VOTERS BY PROMISING AUDACITY OF HOPE AND CHANGE. WELL, AMERICA KNOWS BETTER NOW THAT OBAMA’S TRUE COLOR IS OUT OF THE CLOSET. OVER 20 YEARS OF ATTENDING TO A CHURCH WHICH PREACHES HATRED; UNPATRIOTISM; BIGOTISM; RACISM AND DAMNATION OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY AND STATING THAT AMERICA DESERVED 9/11 WILL NEVER BE FORGIVEN AND ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED. WHAT OBAMA AND MR. WRIGHT HAVE AGREED UPON DURING THOSE SERMONS SHOULD BE BRANDED AS CAPITAL PUNISHMENT. GOD BLESS AMERICA!
Posted by: JR; Independent, NC | March 27, 2008, 5:20 am 5:20 am
Americans,
If you elect John McCain for president, please spare the rest of the world your whining when the body bags continue to come home from Iraq, the number of foreclosures continues to rise, and joblessness and homelessness continue to grow. John McCain has already made it clear that the war in Iraq will be his priority. Bush made it clear the war in Iraq would be his priority, yet you re-elected him. Now you are whining about his lack of attention to domestic issues. Fools!
Posted by: Grow Up | March 27, 2008, 6:21 am 6:21 am
It’s clear the Democratic top leaders (Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid) support Obama. That’s why I’m positive Obama will get this nomination if it goes to the convention.
After Obama gets the nomination, they will then place the Florida and Michigan delegates on the floor.
Everyone should view the new nbc poll.
Posted by: Yes Yes Yes | March 27, 2008, 7:28 am 7:28 am
yes, yes, yes – The truly sad thing about your comment is that once the democratic insiders choose their pre-annointed and media pushed choice (Obama), the democrats will then proceed to lose a general election that should have been a no-brainer. Sad, Sad, Sad.
Posted by: mhhunt | March 27, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am
I am “one of the small supporters” who will withhold my donation to the party if Obama gets the nod. I am a hard line democrat who believes that this needs to play out to the end. The party is already spintered. This election season has already done so much damage to the democratic party. So–lets see how this thing goes. They NEED to come up with a way to seat Florida and Michigan.
Posted by: Bonny | March 27, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am
Bunny, a long and bloody battle will not help democrats in November to win the White House. There is a clear choice here to make. Superdelegates will make a decision and select the nominee and give him/her the opportunity to fight against McCain. Or the fighht will go on until the convention and a weak nominee will come out but will face a strong McCain and lose. The choise is between a democrat in the WH or a 3rd term WBush. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | March 27, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am
I believe that this has already damaged the party. I believe that most Clinton supporters will never vote for Obama and the same with Obama supporters. ( I will never vote for Obama)
**My question is: Will Kennedy and Kerry pledge their support to Clinton, since that is who won in their state???
Posted by: Bonny | March 27, 2008, 8:22 am 8:22 am
Jay: You are so right. I will be glad when Nancy Pelosi gets herself out of being house speaker. Howard Dean should never have been voted chairman. I never liked him or Nancy. I am aware of the fact they are supporting Obama that’s why Dean does not want to seat the MI and FL delegates because Hillary would catch up to Obama. If the superdelegates for Hillary are smart they would hold up the nomination until Michigan and Florida delegates are seated. New Hampshire changed their primary date and was not penalized. That was because Dean thought Obama was going to win that state, but he lost. There has been a lot of trouble in this election ever since Obama ran for the presidency. He has copied all his speeches from MLK, JFK and used the word hope from RFK because I read RFK’s speech on the internat. This last speech he made was created by a woman who helped him and that was also on the internet. He cannot do anything for himself without the help of others. How then could he ever run this country. And it has not come out yet but I understand that Bill Richardson also had an affair with another woman. And Bill Richardson is looking for a VP job that’s why he endorsed Obama. But he may get fooled, Hillary could still win that nomination.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 27, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am
Grow Up, you are among the many who just don’t get it. So many of you keep arguing time and price (both monetary and casualty) limits on the Battle of Iraq. Our American Revolution took 8 years (1775-1783) before the British surrendered. It took another four years (1787) before the U. S. Constitution was adopted; another year (1788) for the ratification of the U. S. Constitution; and another 9 months (Mar 4, 1789) before the First Congress convened. That is FOURTEEN years! But sadly the Indian Wars lasted another 101 years, with hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of casualties on both sides.
The overthrowing of Saddam Hussein, the elections forming the Iraqi government, the adoption and ratification of the Iraqi Constitution, and the seating of the Iraqi Parliament, and the continued insurgency have so far taken 5 years.
But even more importantly, the Battle of Iraq has long since become al Qaeda’s primary battlefield in their jihad against Western Civilization. We have only two options in this jihad: Either we die or the terrorists and their ideology die. You can’t place a price tag or time limit on the fight for the survival of Western Civilization. That would be like saying it costs too much (monetarily and in casualites) to prosecute crime in America. So we should just give up and let the criminals run rampant — everyone just fend for yourself. Defeating the terrorists and their ideology must be the first priority. Yes, even over domestic issues. For with the defeat of Western Civilization there won’t be any of us left to even have domestic issues.
A President Clinton or a President Obama will place the Battle of Iraq, and as such the War on Terror, down the list of priorities. Either will likely bring our troops home prematurely and hand al Qaeda it’s long sought military victory over the mighty U. S. military. And that will become the first step in the last days of Western Civilization.
You will say this is just more fear-mongering. But you are wrong! This is just telling it like is is…the real truth that many of you just want to deny or ignore!
Posted by: James Danley | March 27, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am
Thinking: What have you been drinking? Obama is running for president just to make history. He wouldn’t know what to do on day one. He is as helpless and a two year old. For graduating college he is as dumb as they come. The only thing he is smart at is using other’s speeches and hiding the fact that he is racial like his racist crazy pastor. And it is the white people of today that are sucker enough to vote him in office. But I hope those 20 millionaires that are superdelegates put a stop on it so he cannot get the nomination.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 27, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am
My reaction as an independent is to write a check for $ 100 to Clinton’s campaign (Saturday morning) and plan on another if she is nominated. Obama and his elite will get nothing, including my vote.
Its been three weeks in which several polls show that Clinton has a lead on McCain in the general election and Obama loses by a large margin. While that would only be the starting base for the general election campaign, the Obama advocates should really stop showing their uninformed bias by claiming he is the only one that could beat McCain. Shouting among yourselves does nothing to make it true.
His involvement with the lunetic racist Rev. Wright is enough to make most American throw up!
Posted by: Robin_MI | March 27, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am
To Grow Up – I totally, totally agree with you. Voting for McCain if your candidate doesn’t win is like a child sticking out his/her tongue and saying “I’m not gonna be your friend anymore.” Really silly stuff. Revenge voting will only hurt you people in the end. This voting process is serious stuff and the future of our country depends on who winds up in the White House. Either democrat will be infinitely better than McCain. If your candidate doesn’t get the nomination swallow your pride and disappointment (and anger) and be a grownup about this. This goes for both Obama supporters and Hillary supporters. WE NEED TO GET A DEMOCRAT, EITHER ONE, ELECTED.
Posted by: Brenna | March 27, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am
Things are going to get a whole lot worse.
Posted by: smearjay | March 27, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am
Believe or not, when someone called from the DCCC to ask for my donation, I said basically the same thing. I’m closing my wallet to DCCC as long as Pelosi is showing such blatant bias against Hillary’s campaign. It is unnecessary for her to say such stupid things, including her comments about no dream ticket. This women should keep her mouth shut and let the people decide.
I live in FL and will withdraw my support as a Democrat.
McCain … You have a new voter! Me.
Posted by: Disenfranchised_FL_Voter | March 27, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am
It is obvious that most of Clinton’s staunchest supporters are in fact REPUBLICANS — same as they are! The only reason she’s running as a Democrat is pure expediency. We should recognize a wolf in sheep clothing, but some of our Democratic brethren have been achored to the ides that the Clintons are Democrats. They are Clintons first and foremost, and their thirst for power is insatiable. They would rather wreck the Democrats chances of regaining power by prolonging their own death spiral, than to step-aside for the unity of the party and the necessary healing of hurt feelings.
Posted by: sicnarfe | March 27, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am
Obama lied on an issue that effects many
His own words was Wright sets his moral Compass.
Read chapter 15 of Dreams of my father.
Obama knew this man was an issue for years… I voted for him but I will no longer .
PelosI needs to listen and Read his book!!!!
If this man is his moral compass that is what Obama called him in the Chicaho paper Interview you can read it yourself, just like the book!!! Now a Clinton supporter
Posted by: kolasea | March 27, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am
***Brenna & Grow-up***
The beautiful thing about American is: I CAN VOTE FOR WHOM EVER I WANT TO!!!
Yes, I Can!
Go Hillary!!
Posted by: Bonny | March 27, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am
Polls conducted nationally by Gallup, Quinnipiac University, and AOL show Hillary Clinton leading by an average margin of 15 points nationally. According to Gallup, this marks the sixth consecutive day of Gallup Poll Daily tracking showing Clinton with a statistically significant lead over Obama, something she had not accomplished since Feb. 7-9 polling. Clinton’s recent momentum has coincided with the controversy created by Obama’s association with the anti-US and racially charge sermons conducted by his long-time advisor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright. See the latest Gallup, Quinnipiac University and AOL poll results. Read about the nationwide Momentum Shift.
Posted by: Disenfranchised_FL_Voter | March 27, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am
jkan: Nancy Pelosi doesn’t want Hillary as president because she would have a higher position than Nancy. Hillary is much smarter than Dean, Reid and Pelosi
and they wouldn’t be able to fool her like they would Obama. The superdelegates should count when they are added to the delegates. I hope those 20 superdelegates that wrote that letter hold up the nomination of Obama and stick it to Dean, Nancy and Reid. Dean endorsed Obama months ago and was not supposed to state that decision as chairman. He doesn’t want the MI and FL delegates to be seated because Hillary would catch up to Obama.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 27, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am
I think Obama’s Achilles heel has been exposed and it’s not clear to me that he’d do the ticket more good than harm. I used to agree that a unity ticket would be overwhelming, but now I think she might be better off on her own. With him in the lead slot, with or without her, he’s sunk.
Posted by: Disenfranchised_FL_Voter | March 27, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am
Remember when Obama famously declared that he could get Clinton’s voters but she could not get his? Time to rethink that proposition. The Gallup Poll has Obama losing 28% of Clinton supporters against McCain (19% of Obama supporters defect to McCain if Clinton is the nominee.)
Posted by: Disenfranchised_FL_Voter | March 27, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
Blackmailing Pelosi is just one of the ‘hardings’ options,may God help us.
Posted by: adams | March 27, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
Regarding the Democratic party and the infighting going on in the primary campaign: What the Dems don’t seem to realize is that they’re straying far from the party lines. That being the case, I personally don’t care if the party self-destructs. It is not acting in the interests of true Democrats. Take it all the way to the end, Hillary. At worst, we’ll wind up with a reformed party. Obama should go home with the chickens to roost.
Posted by: MGPGH | March 27, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
James Danley (8:30 am post), I’ve never heard it put so well. Your observations are very well-made. If more would look at the situation as objectively as you have, we’d all be better off.
Posted by: Laves sus Manos | March 27, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am
let hillary get out of the way , presidency is never her right,as she believes, Can somebody tell her please !!
Posted by: ed | March 27, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am
The clintons are comfirmed liars,no way for them this time no matter the option,incuding tanya harding option.
Posted by: sam | March 27, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am
Wow, the Audacity of being the Clintons. If Clinton was ahead, do you Clinton supporters honestly think she would be taking this position? Insanity. Clinton is a power-hungry liar. She’s exposed herself and is basically implicitly saying that her and her husband will tear their own party apart if they can’t be top dogs. If the superdelegates don’t respect the will of the people, why did we even vote? Just let the superdelegates exercise their independent judgement and leave Democrat voters out of it, no? Anybody supporting Clinton at this point needs to take a real deep breath, a step back, and look at yourself, at Clinton, at what you’re really becoming. I know you’re disappointed but Jesus. Clinton and her supporters are getting scary. Don’t do this to yourselves. It’s a loser’s mentality.
Posted by: brad | March 27, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am
Willaim**** I’m a teacher from Louisiana. NO ONE pays me to speak the TRUTH about Obama.
In your suggestion that only paid people (on the internet) support CLinton–I just wanted to clarify that!!!!
Posted by: Bonny | March 27, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am
Obama is presidential indeed,his linage can be traced back to six former presidents.
Posted by: jef | March 27, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am
The donors have the right to spend their donation money, and use whatever influence that derives from that money, as they see fit. And there’s nothing Whether it was wise to send an open letter to Pelosi pointing out that fact is another question. As far as “donor and sponsor politics,” please dont be so naive as to think it it is only the Clinton campaign that cajoles and twists arms to advance its political gains. We’ve already heard about the Obama campaign’s heavy-handed pressure tactics to swing superdelegates to their side. Fair game, and both sides are playing it.
Posted by: shellray | March 27, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am
Hillary is fighting her last fight,i assure you she will lose and there will be no more chance for her in the party till ‘thy kingdom come’.politically she is over.
Posted by: ben ohio | March 27, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
What gallup poll are you looking at???
The gallup poll has Obama up by 2 (tie). Last week Hillary was up by 7. SHE HAS LOST THAT LEAD.
Hillary now has a positive rating of 37, down 8 points from 2 weeks ago.
Obama went down 2. 49 from 51 two weeks ago (Rev. Wright controversy didn’t hurt him much).
I was reading the New York Post and SDs are really questioning Hillary because of her Bosnia story.
She also has Military people speaking against her.
Seems to me, Hillary has REALLY shot herself in the leg this time.
Posted by: Yes Yes Yes | March 27, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Surely this thing would be over were the Clintons and Obama positions reversed. Yet the corporate media persist in the lie that somehow the race is neck-and-neck. The Clintons have pre-sold their influence on the presumption that the walk into the White House was going to be a “cake-walk.” Now that little “fairy tale” has turned into a “3 am” nightmare. Their donors expect something for the millions thay’ve anted-up, and Hillary’s refusal to acknowledge that the gig is up provides some measure of return on the investment.
Posted by: Emilio | March 27, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
I don’t believe Kerry and Kennedy will support Hillary due to the fact that Kerry is bitter over the fact that he lost the election to Bush. Kennedy doesn’t want Hillary to become president because he knows he can get his bills passed thru Obama. Richardson wants to be a VP that’s why he endorsed Obama but I think Obama is going to pick Patrick because he is black. Obama is not fooling me, he is racial like his pastor but does a good job of hiding it from the white people. I cannot understand why the whites would not vote for their own race as the blacks vote for theirs. Do we want a president in the white house whose pastor is a racist against this country. I don’t think so. Obama and Michelle love this country? Give me a break. Michelle is as racial as he is.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 27, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
I just donated more money to Barack Obama. If there’s one thing that talks loud in this country, it’s cash, and guess who raises more of it? The door is closing on Hillary’s campaign. If anyone out there truly thinks she still has a chance, I feel sorry for you.
Posted by: josh | March 27, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
“You suggested [in a recent television interview] superdelegates have an obligation to support the candidate who leads in the pledged delegate count as of June 3rd, whether that lead be by 500 delegates or 2,” the Clinton backers wrote. “This is an untenable position that runs counter to the party”s intent in establishing super-delegates in 1984.”
I think Nancy has got this right, for a change, after all isn”t each delegate a superdelegate? What the Clinton campaign has been trying to do all along is to shut his race down & play the race card whenever it is convenient for Hillary – The Great White Hope Myth – that they”ve been playing all along.So sad!
Jusst who are Hillary’t major campaign donators. Just where is Hillary’s income tax filings for 2007.
It doesn’t sing & dance – but MONEY TALKS. So Sad!
Posted by: Great White Myth | March 27, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
More Clinton poor loser tactics…does not matter, Obama will be the nominee and win in Nov.
Posted by: leslie | March 27, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
Obama’s hands are not clean either — Obama Camp Tries to Sway Hillary’s Pledged Delagates
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If the superdelegates are supposed to vote the will of the people then Gov. Richardson, Sen. Kerry, Sen. Kennedy, etc.. will have to change their support for Hillary Clinton.
It just seems that Nancy and Obama want to state the rules when it suits them but not actually have to follow them in all cases. what good are the DNC rules if the superdelegates ignore them anyway? Superdelegates are already overriding the will of the voters–that’s the big issue. Obama is encouraging it just as much as Clinton is doing. In fact, Obama may be doing more of it given the link to the article above. it explains how he is converting pledged delegates over to him…wonder what the rules say about that?
Posted by: terry | March 27, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
massense – go whizz somewhere else.
Like paid assasins they persue their victim.
Karma will have its day.
You sow the wind and inherit a whirlwind.
Posted by: John | March 27, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
Callin all Clintonites, Clintonians, and Clintonistas, for heaven’s sake stop with the divisive crap already. If in your heart-of-heart you are a Democrat then please plead with your candidate to cease these vicious attacks against the party’s front-runner. This protracted effort to destroy Barack Obama’s standing in the eyes of the American people is back-firing on Hillary, in particular, and the Clinton legacy overall. Why would a Democrat praise a Republican rival over a fellow Democrat? My simplistic answer would be that the praiser is a poser, and a Republican shill.
Posted by: Nigel | March 27, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
Pelosi needs to be very careful on how she uses her power when she speaks. Its likely that she will need to raise money for her future campaigns and be needing the so called “fat cats” to donate to her campaign. Plus if she is not careful, the republicans will take back control of the house and she will lose her prestigious position as Speaker of the House. She and Dean need to figure out what to do about the FL and MI voters as well as ensuring that we have fair contests even though she is already biased.
Posted by: terry | March 27, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
Mercy mercy me. What is wrong with Pelosi, Dean and Reid? Are they trying to give our country away? I’m just full of questions today. Are all of you so afraid that Hillary can run the country in a manner to restore prosperity and safety that you will hold your resentment for her and sell our nation short? Did she lick the red off your candy at some point and time? If so, ask yourself how mature am I. Do you think you can contol Obama easier? What if, just what if he is part of Louis Farakan, Tony R., Jeremiah Wright and whoever else clan. Little scarrie for me. Don’t forget Kerrie and Kennedy. The only thing amusing about all of this is they will have to cast their vote for Hillary. Oh my!!
Posted by: C Good | March 27, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
How about some truth Hillary!
How about laying off the emotinal roller coaster ride you’re giving us Democrats?
How about returning the cash you’ve collected from the pre-selling of the White House influence you and hubby had hoped to peddle?
How about them tax return apples??
Let’s be relevant and stop yakking about Obama’s sins of association, let’s see what you’re covering up by releasing the unredated papers of the White House years. Let’s see what’s in the Arkansas history whilst you were in Little Rock.
Posted by: Joe | March 27, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Pelosi NEVER said the super-delegates cannot vote as they wish; she knows the rules. She simply said if they go against the will of the voting public it will harm the Democratic party.
She is right; if they go against the will of the voting public (whether it’s Clinton or Obama), it will harm the Democratic party.
Posted by: nandssmith | March 27, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Tax Returns?
None of your business, after all I’m the commander-in-chief and I can do whatever I want to, I am the law.
Chelsea gave a questioner a similar retort when asked an impertinent question.
Seems like the chip not flying far from the block.
Chelsea might yet best her mother, by actually running for and winning the Republican nomination not too far down the road.
Posted by: Granville | March 27, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Mrs. Polosi`s remarks should remind everyone of the socialist/communist tendencies of entire Deomocrat Party
Posted by: Dave | March 27, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
I’m the last person to defend Nancy Pelosi after we gave the Democrats the message to do something about the BCF, only to be deflated by her “off the table” remark. However, in this primary battle between two hopefuls, she’s indicating what everyone already figured out, that the party leaders just could not afford to overturn the rules without serious consequences to the party.
So Hillary can contort and transfigure her mind in her conniptions on how she can possibly get a favorable outcome to something that is already over, all she likes, provided it does no permanent harm to the Democratic party. But we have reached a point in this character assasination of Barack Obama that may render him impotent, come the general election. The leaders of this party will be viewed as weak, at minimum, and in league with the forces of fascism, at worst, if they allow Hillary and Bill Clinton to divide and destroy the Democratic party as they descend into a death spiral that will destroy the Clinton brand.
Posted by: William | March 27, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
May we see what’s in the Clinton Tax Returns?
Pray tell us where the source of the$5,000,000 campaign!
How about opening the books for the American people to see who donated to the Clinton “Fort Knox” Library in Arkansas.
Why is our once esteemed ex-president taking graft from the oil-rich Muslims?
Pray tell us why is it so important for Hillary to become the Democratic nominee when by all indications are that the Republicans will mop the floors with her come the general election.
Seems like they just love being on the inside with the rich and powerful.
Posted by: Nigel | March 27, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Does America really want someone prone to hallucinations in the WH? Reviewing Hillary’s methodical playing of the “Race card”, and “The Perpetual Victim” against Obama; her inability to control her own campaign finances; and, her recent commentary on: Iraq; Pakistan; Energy Policy; her stated intention to confiscate the profits of American energy companies; the need for her to control the 14 Trillion $ American Economy from her White House Politburo, since she has declared the free-market to be a failure (this from a woman who hasn’t managed so much as a corner vegetable stand, or for that matter her own marriage; but, of course you could count Whitewater, and her tenure as “Madam” and Bimbo Containment Chief for Bill’s White House Brothel); her Marxist statement in San Francisco: “We’re going to have to take more from you, and give it to others for the common good.”; Illegal Immigration; Taxes; Infanticide; Massive new Government spending; Multi million $ Senate earmarks for supporters of Hillary’s Presidential campaign; Garnishing of your wages to fund her coveted Socialized medicine program; a fanatical advocate of confiscating all civilian handguns; and, the Clinton’s history of emasculating the military, verifies that this grievously flawed woman would be the female version of the Jimmy Carter debacle that gave us the Ayatollah Khomeini who ushered in rampant Islamic radicalism; block-long lines at our gasoline stations; a severely hollow military; and, a record Misery Index. Only much worse. Considering all of Hillary’s recent gaffes, e.g. “I voted FOR IT (referring to the Bankruptcy Bill); but, I was glad to see that it didn’t pass.”; her hallucinations over “Landing under intense sniper fire in Bosnia.”; misrepresentations on NAFTA; or, her fantasized role in the Irish Peace Process; and, her increasingly frequent crying jags, one has to wonder if excessive use of Botox has affected her mental stability. It’s no wonder that her campaign staff is shielding her from reporter and audience unscripted questions. The prospect of Madam Hillary as President; in a word: TERRIFYING. Greg N
Posted by: Greg Neubeck | March 27, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Obama Zombies?
Why you snarky Hillarious Hairy blighter.
They must have a minnion of you, paid or otherwise, name-callers lined up to swamp the Internet with your hilarious blather.
Posted by: William | March 27, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
All the more reason to vote for Mccain. The dems will get more done in congress with him as the president.
Posted by: Matt | March 27, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
What so many people ignore is that caucus voters are not equivalent to primary voters. Primary voters are not equivalent to November voters, but are much closer to them – in states that voted, rather than caucused, Hillary has won, and she has won the states that are the bellweather states for Dems to win in November.
It’s suicide to deny superdelegates the right to be a rudder – that’s what they were designed to do!
Posted by: Stanley | March 27, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
I have never even heard of these people who threatened Pelosi.
Marc Aronchick, Clarence Avant, Susie Tompkins Buell, Sim Farar, Robert L. Johnson, Chris Korge, Marc and Cathy Lasry, Hassan Nemazee, Alan and Susan Patricof, JB Pritzker, Amy Rao, Lynn de Rothschild, Haim Saban, Bernard Schwartz, Stanley S. Shuman, Jay Snyder, Maureen White and Steven Rattner.
Posted by: Joey Bee | March 27, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
If McCain is presidential material why is it that he appears to be on the wrong side of every issue. Or could it be that he’s just another turtured soul in search of redemption, and being president will automatically pull everything together for him. Back in 2000, Rove cast him as a man on the edge, driven there by torture in Vietnam. The Bush team also push-polled him in the Carolinas as the father of a black child. He himself cast the religious right as “agents of intolerance” during the primaries of 2000. Yet this make believe straight shooter demeaned himself by seeking out the approval of his political enemies, this time around, on his way to the party’s nomination.
This guy is an opportunistic liar and a fraud.
Remember the Keating five? He’s one of the five, engaged in the swindle of the savings and loans scanddal of the 80′s.
Just recently he has been praised by the French for effectively handing over a lucrative $40 Billion contract to Airbus Industries to build tanker planes for our military, rather than to keep these jobs here at home with a contract with Boeing.
Posted by: Frank | March 27, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
A new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Wednesday evening strongly indicates that the 2008 Democratic presidential campaign of Sen. Hillary Clinton is losing much of whatever steam it’s been managing to previously hold onto. Conversely, Sen. Barack Obama, in the wake of the Rev Jeremiah Wright and Bosnia controversies, has managed to gain appreciable momentum. HillaBamaDramaRama continues.
The poll was conducted Monday and Tuesday, and compares the results from March 12th. Below are the poll’s key findings.
-Negatives: Clinton has jumped to 48% from 43%. Her negative rating is now bigger than her positive (37%). By contrast, Obama’s negative rating sits at 32% against his 49% positive. He was previously at 51% positive/28% negative
-Obama vs McCain: Obama up 44%-42%, from 47%-44%.
-Clinton vs McCain: McCain has pulled ahead 46%-44%. Clinton previously had held a 47%-45% over the Arizona Senator.
-Obama vs Clinton: 45%-45%. This is significant, since Obama has come even for the first time. Clinton had held a 47%-43% lead.
Posted by: hlc | March 27, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Geezz Mattohio: wake-up!! that’s nothing!!
are you one of the Fat cats?
I don’t think so!!
so just google “clintons” then you know realy about the clintons.
After seven years of Bush/Cheney violations of treaties and international law, of trashing the Constitution, of defying Congressional subpoenas, and of nullifying acts of Congress with signing statements, it is not likely that the American public will have much stomach for another President that regards ,Hillary, herself as unbound by rules or, by implication, by laws.
Bill Clinton lied before a grand jury.
Hlliary Clinton lied in front of hundreds of supporters and journalists on the campaign trail. She lied not once, twice….
Hillary’s attitude is “it must be me, or nobody!”
Hillary and Bill Clinton are for the wholesale market of manipulation and swindling.
After “35 years of experience” Hillary has learned:
Audience manipulation, her twisting of events, the tale’s swindling core.
Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton? No, NO, NO.
Bush and Clinton ear are done in 2008!!!
Go Nancy!! don’t back down!!
Posted by: womenpa | March 27, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Frank,
The contract went to airbus because they were responsive to the airforce whereas boeing expected the contract and was non-responsive to the air forces requests. Also if you read the article about it airbus has doled out the jobs to different cities in the US, so they will be creating jobs here as well, and deliver the taxpayers a better product for less or would you prefer a no bid contract given to boeing because they are an American company. As far as John McCain being an opportunistic liar and a fraud, he is a politician and they are all that especially hillary and oboma. It is what they lie about that matters and for his tenure there is a lot less dirt on him than shillary or barack in a lot less service to this country. This man does not vote the party line he votes for what he thinks is best for the country and that is what we need. The problem with this country (besides ignorance) is the far left liberals and the far right conservatives that are battling for the upperhand in government which is destroying everything in between and if you do not believe that then you are obviously in favor of one of those groups (my guess is liberal). Meaning I am just wasting my time trying to inform you because you won’t believe it anyway because it does not fit in your program.
Posted by: Matt | March 27, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Haven’t you seen the interview of college students where Hillary held her
initial campaign speeches and qa sessions?
Students told news reporters that Hillary’s campaign staff gave
pre-printed questions to ask Hillary during the q/a session, and the
unsuspecting students fell for it. I am not making this up.
Now Hillary “sniper-fire” Clinton might be trying to change the subject
from her Bosnia lies. She is trying to get the sympathy votes.
Hillary and her camp is trying to divert attention from her sniper-fire
Bosnian trip.
She is a liar.
No liars for president.
No crooks for president.
No more pity votes.
No more sympathy votes.
Release your tax return.
Let us see your land dealings.
Let us see your sources of income.
Let us see whom you paid to murder Vince Forster.
Posted by: Dave | March 27, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
The Clinton’s arrogance has crossed the proper boundary and the Democratic party should ask these two leave the party quietly.
Posted by: PleaseNo,NotHer! | March 27, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
John McCain is a straight talking con man; just check the records of his involvement with the Keating Five. Right now he’s sitting on a mountain of documents, pertaining to the Abramoff scandal, which would end the careers of a lot of powerful people. Perhaps sitting on the lid of this potential cauldron is what has enabled him to win the nomination of his party.
Posted by: William | March 27, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
John McCain, like Hillary Clinton aught to be vetted and combed to see who they really are. This has been done to Barack Obama and there is no there there. So much so that they have used his kindergarten history to make a case against him. Since the K records exposé was seen as trite they moved on to his admitted drug use, even tried tarnishing him as a drug dealer. That didn’t stick, so they had an issue with his name, Rush Limbaugh used the music to “Puff the Magic Dragon” substituting “Barack the Magic Negro”. Then came the revelation that he was a Muslim, raised in Indonesia and taught radical Islam in a madrassa. Then the photo was circulated of him in local Kenyan garb, thus proving that he was a terrorist Muslim. Since the slime hunters could not dredge up anything meaningful to use against him they then turned their attention to people he had any associations with. This Jeremiah Wright issue is just the latest smear that the right have magnified in their echo chamber in their vain attempt to derail Obama. Then they moved on to hist passport record to see where in the world he could have visited that could be used against him. Seems like the only thing they can nail him on is his race and they, the right wing lunatics, will go hell for leather to associate Barack with every negative racial stereotype in order to diminish his standing with the American people, to the point where he becomes unelectable.
Posted by: Simon | March 27, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Six of one, half a dozen of the other. McCaine is the next prez; a pick that neither party can be happy with.
Posted by: jalapenopecker | March 27, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Pretty funny..considering Hillary took so much money from the DNC to “win” her seat as a New York Senator….there was hardly any thing left for Al Gore to run his Presidential campaign on…another scorched earth policy…her ambition..a stepping stone (by stepping on) to a Presidential bid…and to hell with anybody else, or the “party”..
Posted by: chabuka | March 27, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
If Obama gets nominated, I’ll vote for McCain, period. I won’t vote for Ralph Nader as a protesting vote. I’ll vote for whoever having chance to beat this liar Obama. And the bigger margin, the better. I’d love to see these morons humiliated for giving away the easy victory by supporting this unelectable candidate.
4 or 8 years of Republicans in White House? Fine, let this country go to hell before we clean up these power hungry Democratic politicians: Pelosi, Kerry, Kennedy. Let them suffer with us. Let those no-brain Obama supporters suffer financially for years to come.
Then we can find another person to fix this country after Obama “fixes our soul” as his wife promised.
Posted by: Carl | March 27, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Yeah, Pelosi, the useless Dem leader. Why don’t you focus on your own short comings and figure out what you need to do in Congress before we vote you OUT!
Posted by: Priscilla | March 27, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
If Pelosi were truly neutral as she has claimed she would have kept her mouth shut. I am glad she is being called on her blatant support of Obama. She is supposed to support the party not a particular candidate. And for all the people whining about how Hillary is attacking Obama and ruining his chances, the vast majority of the heat has been coming from the right wing and they are just getting warmed up. They are showing Obama for the weak candidate that he is. I hope the super’s are paying attention.
Posted by: Firefighter | March 27, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
At It Again! According to ABCNews, in a January 2008 speech at the University of South Carolina, Michelle Obama made more anti-American remarks which are making the rounds on the Internet today. Talking about her experience at Princeton where she hung with a largely African-American crowd, she said, “We don’t like being pushed outside of our comfort zones. You know it right here on this campus. You know people sitting at different tables – you all living in different dorms. I was there. You’re not talking to each other, taking advantage that you’re in this diverse community.”
Michelle Obama went on to say “Because sometimes it’s easier to hold on to your own stereotypes and misconceptions. It makes you feel justified in your own ignorance. That’s America! So the challenge for us is are we ready for change?” I’m sure we all know what she’s talking about when she reflects on the comfort many of us feel with those of our specific cultural or ethnic groups. Listen our future First Lady calling American people ignorant. Listen:
She wants to be the First Lady?
Posted by: Disenfranchised_FL_Voter | March 27, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
At It Again! According to ABCNews, in a January 2008 speech at the University of South Carolina, Michelle Obama made more anti-American remarks which are making the rounds on the Internet today. Talking about her experience at Princeton where she hung with a largely African-American crowd, she said, “We don’t like being pushed outside of our comfort zones. You know it right here on this campus. You know people sitting at different tables – you all living in different dorms. I was there. You’re not talking to each other, taking advantage that you’re in this diverse community.”
Michelle Obama went on to say “Because sometimes it’s easier to hold on to your own stereotypes and misconceptions. It makes you feel justified in your own ignorance. That’s America! So the challenge for us is are we ready for change?” I’m sure we all know what she’s talking about when she reflects on the comfort many of us feel with those of our specific cultural or ethnic groups. Listen our future First Lady calling American people ignorant. Listen:
She wants to be the First Lady?
Posted by: Disenfranchised_FL_Voter | March 27, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
The truth is;
Pelosi has not shown any leadership in this election.
1. She seems in favor of not having FL and MI have a revote
2. Her public comments have shown that she is behind Obama and not just that, but she is anti Clinton
3. Not once has she called on the candidates to cool down their rhetoric
It seems to me that Pelosi wants to remain the only powerful woman in Washington.
The true leaders are the ones that really remain neutral in the race.
Posted by: Sam | March 27, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Chabuka,
Al Gore won the 2000 election.
Besides, are you saying that Hillary should not have run because Al Gore was running for presidet?
How crazy is that comment?
Posted by: Sammy | March 27, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Go Hillary!
I hope those of you that are anti Hillary lose your jobs to a less qualified smooth talking person in your lives. It seems that’s the only way you will truly understand what’s going on in this election.
We were all brought up to always pick the most qualified person for a job. Affirmative action should not apply for the presidency. Period.
Posted by: SO | March 27, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm