Clinton-Obama War Creates Serious Tensions at DailyKos

Good. I hope they, and Mrs. Clinton, go away for a very long time! She can take her KITCHEN SINK and go BACK to NY! Enough Party DAMAGE has been done!

Clinton saying that the Vote in Michigan was FAIR? When she was the only one left on the BALLOT? ENOUGH of HER! I have FAMILY who DIDN’T vote because THEY BELIEVED it WOULDN’T count! We are FURIOUS! What happened to DEMOCRACY?

Daily Kos never bother to report fully on Obama. Now they have to coer their buttts to look legit.
Olbermann really lost his credibility this year.

I’m sorry what is it about saying that Republicans dont care what the liberal media says and dont have Liberal white guilt and wont be cowed by screams of racism whenever Mr Obama is questioned warrent deleting my comment?????
This is on topic. It has to do with what these blogs etc are trying to accomplish with their tactics and practices and that’s get mR Obama nominated by convincing Liberals he is the best candidate.
My point is that Huffingotn Daily Kos and yes the Liberal MSM need to wrap their brains around the fact that Republicans don’t care what the Daily Kos says or the Huffingotn post says.
Democrats should be nominating the candidate that can withstand Republican attacks the best. If a candidate can’t even get fair coverage in the Liberal blogs without having supporters threatening people and screaming racism, he doesn’t have a snowball’s hope against the republicans.

This is what religion does to people.

Obama has self-destructed. It will be interesting to see how embarassed the media will be and how they will react to the fact that their coverage of Obama was based more on fiction than fact. Its shocking to me that Obama can claim he wasn’t aware of, or in attendance for, those sexist/racist, anti-US comments by his spiritual advisor. Lying doesn’t sound like CHANGE to me. In the same way that Romney was supposedly unelectable for being a mormon, there is plenty of precedent to believe that ones choice of church for TWENTY YEARS gives more than a glimpse of insight into one’s psyche. Obama will never get the nomination at this point.

While I can’t believe that ABC is actually reporting on a collective, immature fit that some Hillary Clinton supporters are having, I think it shows the desperation of the Clinton campaign and its supporters.
The era of the Clinton’s and the Democratic Leadership Council is over. Alegre and her acolytes should just get over it.

I am an Asian and I think black people want both way. When it is unfair to them from white people then it is racism to them but when they do the racial stuff asian people then it is not racism. Furthermore when they call people’s name it is not racism? Just for one time can black people stop whining and be like a man.

The only way to salvage this mess is to get both of them on the ticket. Dems, temper your passion for the candidate of your choice with a little common sense. We cannot afford to tear each other to pieces. Eight years of Bush have left us all suffering a form of politic traumatic stress disorder. We can’t heal these wounds by inflicting more.

Last night in our small corner of the world three friends of the family (2 NM, 1 CO) expressed regret for casting their vote for Obama weeks ago. One owned up to being swept away by “words” and not having enough information. Yes, small corner of the world but yes, again, for the great possibility that many other past votes for Obama are now being reconsidered.

Since all the Main Stream Media is clearly backing Obama, try posting anything pro-Obama on those sites and see what happens? I find nothing wrong in a LIBERAL site tilted in favoring Obama.
Those who vote for Hillary will get what they deserve; more corruption, more divisiveness, more of the same.

If Obama wants us to believe that he wasn’t aware of his pastors comments then he needs to back to pre-K and start all over again. I hope he doesn’t think we’re that stupid.
As for the media, your darling Obama is melting away, and if you think the American people are going to vote for a guy like him to run our country, you have got to be kidding yourself.

Response to jackt51
My math is not wrong. Let us take the electoral method with winner take all
The color Purple. Much as we may crave it, we do not live in a democracy. If we did then each person would have one vote in every issue, and that vote would count as much as any other. But we don’t. If you participated in a caucus, your vote counted about ten times as much as someone who voted in a primary. In the general election, what ultimately matters is the votes in the Electoral College, not the popular vote, as we re-learned so painfully in 2000. So the question facing the uncommitted “super-delegates” is how do we run the best campaign with the highest probability of defeating John McCain in November, and win the majority of Electoral College votes. Cuurently Clinton has 267 electoral votes and Obama has 202 electoral votes using the same method as used in the GE. Assume that Hillary wins PA, WV, Indiana
and Obama gets SD, NC , OR , MT , Clinton will have 308 electoral votes and Obama will have 230 Electoral votes. You know who should be on top of the DREAM ticket.Now that Obama has been exposed we can have a better person than him on the Dream Ticket

In this case, its the chaff that has separated itself from the wheat.
I’ve been reading so many redundant anti-Obama diaries on Kos lately that it’s hard to find the good diaries. I’m looking forward to find some many more thoughtful diaries on Kos going forward.
And what’s the end game of this pseudo strike?
So, these so-called strikers aren’t coming back until everyone else starts making comments and posting diaries that they like?
Well, that’s not very Democratic, is it?
All I can say to Alegra and her acolytes is “good riddance.”

All this talk about Obama’s pastor is sickening. How many Catholics will denounce their Catholicism on account of the failings of a priest? How many Jews will denounce their Jewishness on account of the failings of a rabbi? Faith is about the spirit. The messenger; priest, rabbi, pastor etc. is but a conduit but not the message itself.
Finally, the message of Jesus is one of FORGIVENESS. One of TOLERANCE.
None of thie charaterizes Obama, but it does characterize those that would see him fail on account of their own innate biggotry for not focusing on the issues to win.
Obama ’08

The longer the Dems. drag the selection process, the more the PAIN!

Obama’s supporters have given him a bad name. So have many of Hillary’s. But the difference between Hillary and Obama is that Hillary has never suggested that her feet were made of anything other than clay, while Obama has been very content to ride the wave hysteria that crowns him the next Great Hope. He doesn’t seem uncomfortable at all having people swoon over him. And that bothers me.
I first noticed this way back in late January, when he had that commercial aired every half hour on CNN during the SC primary race. It had some Harvard professor saying, “We were honored to have someone as brilliant as Obama support us …” I thought to myself, “that is the most arrogant thing I have ever heard” especially from someone who markets himself as being about WE,WE,WE not ME, ME, ME.
Meanwhile, Obama’s supporters blame Hillary for EVERYTHING, absolutely EVERYTHING. This is what makes Obama’s pastor’s comment “Why is everybody hating on Obama?” particularly ironic. No one has been hating on Obama. Hillary has been attacked and scrutinized from every possible angle, but Obama? Nope, he just keeps on riding the wave. When Samantha Power made that monster remark? No apology from Prince Barack. Just a “gracious” acceptance of her resignation.
Meanwhile, Hillary is expected to apologize for everything. And she does, to a voting block that has deserted her in droves. But she does it anyway, because that is just the decent thing to do. Well, I think it is time for Obama to apologize to every white person in America for the things his pastor said. It’s only fair. Then maybe he too can show some dignity by admitting that his feet are also, alas, made of clay.

Obama’s supporters have given him a bad name. So have many of Hillary’s. But the difference between Hillary and Obama is that Hillary has never suggested that her feet were made of anything other than clay, while Obama has been very content to ride the wave hysteria that crowns him the next Great Hope. He doesn’t seem uncomfortable at all having people swoon over him. And that bothers me.
I first noticed this way back in late January, when he had that commercial aired every half hour on CNN during the SC primary race. It had some Harvard professor saying, “We were honored to have someone as brilliant as Obama support us …” I thought to myself, “that is the most arrogant thing I have ever heard” especially from someone who markets himself as being about WE,WE,WE not ME, ME, ME.
Meanwhile, Obama’s supporters blame Hillary for EVERYTHING, absolutely EVERYTHING. This is what makes Obama’s pastor’s comment “Why is everybody hating on Obama?” particularly ironic. No one has been hating on Obama. Hillary has been attacked and scrutinized from every possible angle, but Obama? Nope, he just keeps on riding the wave. When Samantha Power made that monster remark? No apology from Prince Barack. Just a “gracious” acceptance of her resignation.
Meanwhile, Hillary is expected to apologize for everything. And she does, to a voting block that has deserted her in droves. But she does it anyway, because that is just the decent thing to do. Well, I think it is time for Obama to apologize to every white person in America for the things his pastor said. It’s only fair. Then maybe he too can show some dignity by admitting that his feet are also, alas, made of clay.

Hurricane Hillary is causing severe damage to the Democrat Party. Similar to the Clintons’ mastery of “scorched earth” and “vise-grip” politics: if she doesn’t get her nomination to the presidency Hurricane Hillary will spawn off whirlwinds of destruction with the anger and the perpetual fury the party have yet to witness. Katrina will look like the eye of the storm compared to the Clintons’ wrath. Shore up and brace yourselves for the perfect storm Democrats!

K –
Though I can see why you may think this is how Obama is, it is not the truth.
He denounced the statements made by his pastor BACK in January, prior to this making it into the MSM. He has denounced those not even associated with his campaign. He has clearly spoken of times when he has erred along the way.
Hillary has done this at times, at others she has waited until the pressure was too much to avoid, recently with the Ferrero fiasco.
Neither candidate should be held accountable for what others say but rather by how they respond to what others say.
I believe both are doing a fair job, but both need to get the public focused back onto the issues.
Obama is the one that has demonstrated he is willing to work with all sides, all voices to forge a greater America.

Larry: Very good point here. I was informed about Hillary wins in state primaries vs. Obama’s advantages in caucuses. However I do not think it was fair for Obama to obtain more delegates in the states where he lost the popular votes to Hillary, not to mention the possibility that he may or may not have hired some paid volunteers to manipulate results of these caucuses.
I think pro-Hillary supporters and organizations should consider create an open letter (with millions of votes’ endorsements) to Democratic National Committee to urge them allow a revote in Michigan and honor the primary result in Florida.

The Secret Service, who have been with Obama for a year, have confirmed he was at sermons where profanity, and hate America speech was used by Rev. Wright.
Obama got on TV last night and told a bald faced lie.
In a time of thier choosing, the MSM will release pictures of Obama sitting in the pews.
Obama is done, stick a fork in him!

i just want to add one question here..is it wrong for a rich woman to have a sugar baby?? it’s an absolutely extramarital relationship, but more and more services come out on Internet focusing on this kind of relationship, such as S u ga r m o m m a M e e t . c o m . how do you think of such a thing?

Discussion and heated disagreement is one thing, denigration and intimidation entirely different. Not something one would expect from a “progressive” blog. Maybe from the Bushies and guests of CIA interrogation rooms, but not from a “progressive” blog.

I’m a blogger at DailyKos, and these strikers can go screw themselves. Many of these same writers also post at mydd, No Quarter, TalkLeft and Taylor Marsh’s site, all Clinton camps to be sure, and don’t say WORD ONE in their own backyard of the biases there. They want to have their cake and eat it too.
what’s the purpose of the ‘strike’ – how does this change anyones opinion on anything? If they want people to change their minds they have to actually make a case, rather than just take their ball and go home crying.

I am a supporter of Mr. Obama and because I support him I believe it is in his and our best interest that he now steps away from public life to resolve the crises in his life.
The racial tones of his pastor and Mr. Obamas inability to repudiate the man himself is causing a racial rift in our country not seen since OJ Simpson.
Please, Mr. Obama let the country now heal.

OOPS! Josh Marshall is not HUffpo, but a Repub as well. I forgot to include John Aravosis from Americablog. They have all become what they have criticized and hated. Very sad!

One last point. Barak Obama says over and over he does not take money from lobbyists..he makes a point to tell that lie over and over. He has taken more money for this Presidential nomination campaign than any other candidate, including Hillary Clinto. Read watchdog.org and tally for yourself. I have an additional question for all of you..$ 710,000 from Obama’s PAC to 35 delegates who have endorsed him..Buying votes the good old fashioned way?

How can we have a Democratic Nominee for President whose Pastor of twenty years- the man who introduced Obama to Christianity, the man who married him, the man who baptised his two children—HIS MENTOR–believes such horrible things?
IF this had come out before Iowa or before Super Tuesday by the national media as it should have–I don’t think the Democratic Primary would be so tight right now.
Shame on the national media for not vetting Senator Obama properly before Super Tuesday.

How can we have a Democratic Nominee for President whose Pastor of twenty years- the man who introduced Obama to Christianity, the man who married him, the man who baptised his two children—HIS MENTOR–believes such horrible things?
IF this had come out before Iowa or before Super Tuesday by the national media as it should have–I don’t think the Democratic Primary would be so tight right now.
Shame on the national media for not vetting Senator Obama properly before Super Tuesday.

As I posted elsewhere, if people don’t like what Kos or the numerous posters over there write, they can create their own blogs.
The Daily Kos is a private site, after all.

If Hillary’s “you know what” doesn’t stink, then she should release her tax returns, release the First Lady White House papers, release the donors to the Clinton Library, and release all her submitted earmarks. Then her and Obama would be on equal “transparency” footing. Until she does I will consider her unethical and dishonest.

What ever happened to the “friendly opposition”? If you believe any of the statements above you have reached the tribal equivalent of hating them because they belong to the other tribe. It’s OK to disagree with anyone but don’t slam them because the have a view that’s different than yours. You are all listening to too much radio talk shows.

Why is this being given the time of day? It’s nothing more than a bunch of self-absorbed Clinton bloggers who think they are “real” writers holding theirs collective breaths and throwing a temper tantrum on the most popular democratic blog in the world until they get attention from the likes of you. They do NOT even understand the difference between a “strike” and a “boycott”. Sheesh! There are much more important things going on in the world. Did you hear about the war in Iraq? People are like…you know…dying and stuff – even our soldiers!

Obama the clock is ticking….you will soon be done. You are sooo arrogant i would be allergic to you if you were near. Now you have become such a liar and a good one at deceiving the media. Well not the American public. We can see right thru you. Its the job that the media should have done from day one, but instead u got a relatively easy ride till now. GO AWAY OBAMA and take your change with you. Leave HOPE for others better prepare than you.

Just Yesterday they were Obama 48 to Clinton 40 in Rasmussen National Poll.
Obama and Clinton are tied in latest Rasmussen National Poll (45 to 46).
What a difference……we are winning..
Hillary Edwards ’08

Better McCain than Obama.

It’s time we take a stand. It’s OK to support different candidate. But it’s not OK to attack and dehumanized the supporters of the opponent candidate. DailyKos has allowed the abusive behavior to go uncheck, and it has become a norm. DailyKos turned blind eyes to the daily insulting to Hillary supporters.
When Obama supporters went as far as saying that the poor people in Ohio didn’t have enough food so their brains lacked oxygen and hence they voted for Hillary, I knew that there is no rhyme nor reason left at DailyKos.

They remind me of children holding their breath until they get their way.

I read a comment from one of the bloggers here yesterday.
She/he compared Obama minister is the same like those seniors which support Hillary , full of hatred.
I don’t know how she/he got that idea.
I guess she/he doesn’t has respect to senior at all.
This election has driven young people hate senior citizens.
it just so sad.

Hey Sharon,
I appreciate your comments. They seemed pretty reasonable and balanced. Which is clearly something we Democrats need to seize upon, regardless of which of these phenomenal candidates we support.
But I’m not backing off what I said. The media and most voters scrutinize Hillary at a far greater level than they do Obama. Everything she or her campaign says is interpretted in the most cynical way. She is held to a higher level of scritiny than Obama and is expected to appease and conciliate much more than he is. If the world can look with such a critical eye on her, it needs to do the same toward him. I mean, is is a true contender – the front-runner, in fact. The honeymoon is over. He’s a politician just like everyone else. Some of the attachments he has are liabilities. He’s espoused and sided with some offensive attitudes. If he’s going to be President, he’s got to convince this nation – and all of its ethnicities- that he will stand for them all. That’s what Hillary has been doing when she reached out to the black community at the Black State of the Union conference and the latest event with Black newspaper publishers. Obama is going to have to do that too. If Hillary owes it to the constiuencies of the Democratic Party, then Obama owes it to Democratic constituencies too.

Where’s the love people. Let’s take a deep breath and stop condemning everybody who says something we don’t like!

When obama tried to answer Hillary’s 3am ad his response was good judgement would help him make decisions. We are supposed to believe this Good judgement will start after he is elected. PLEASE stop insulting us with this lame answer for everything. He does not have any kind of judgment period….

I am glad they don’t all drink the Kool-aid.

Where does it end? Obama do us all a favor and drop out!
Obama also admitted that he made repeated lapses in judgement by involving Rezko in a complex house purchase, the Chicago paper reports late Friday 14 March 2008.

So Becky…what were your comments on Ferraro’s non-racial comments? Were you appalled then too? I dont remember you appalling then….What does it really take for you to APPALL?

I think Obama supporters have to understand that even if Obama was to win the nomination there is a lot of people out there that cannot hold their nose and vote for Obama after this.
NO matter how much of a die hard Democrat they are they just will not do it, those anti-american statements will keep ringing in their ears.
9/11 was such a blow, such sadness all over the world, so many died and to have someone say America deserved that will not sit well with persons that love their country.
They will not vote for Obama and that is the new position he has now found his self in, because no matter what he says now this cannot be explained away with videos and more words.

Wake up America:
Are you willing to put up with Rev. Wright, the lunetic racist? Obama calls him uncle. Wright and Obama are tight!
Do not be fooled! Do you want uncle Wright to visit the White House after his anti-American, anti-social and anti-semitic views?
Your grand parents paid with their blood during WWII, Korean War, Vietnam, and now Iraq? Our men and women in the military continue to sacrifice their lives just like your grand parents did to save this country we call America.
Please do not be fooled by Obama. If he becomes president, he will be divisive.
Vote for anyone other than Obama.
Vietnam Vet

I don’t think there will be strong support for a black seperatist named Hussein who is running for President pushing a socialist aggenda. You Democrats can really pick them.

McCain is begging for the farther right because he IS a centrist … are u 4 real?

You Obama supporters are delusional at best and stop bringing in Huckabee and George Bush into the commentary as they have nothing to do with the racist-bigot anti American Jeremiah Wright and his “nephew” Obama. The voters will remember the G Dam America and the trash talk about whites and Jews come November. You Obama supporters best start looking at your number 2 candidate now because its over for Obama no matter how you wish this would all go away…its not

There is already one source that wrote an article about Obama and his church in August 2007, not yesterday.
This source is saying that Obama was in attendance at the church when these statements were made on July 22.
That is why the article was written in August 07 questioning Obama about his attendance at this controversial Chicago church whose pastor routinely refers to “white arrogance” and “the United States of White America.”
For Obama to come now and say he did not ever hear stuff like this he is lying and that is a very serious problem, what more will he lie about just to gain the presidency?
I just can’t believe people will just shake that off and say lets move on.

We as a country have to bite the bullet and find a common ground. Under the Clinton and Bush contol we have split as a nation. Obama is not the answer nor is was Edwards. Only John McCain has the experience and has proven fair on both sides of the aisle. With McCain each side will get something of what they want. Hillary would be 4 more years of h*ll and payback and the tensions and sad saga will continue….

Vietnam Vet, you got that right just vote for anybody except Obama

Obama should resign for the senate and his quest for the democratic nonimation. There is no room for this hatred and racism. If Obama attended this church for 20 years, he endorced this radical hatefilled agenda. Obama, you are yesterday, unite the party – leave !!!

Maybe it’s time these whinny Clinton cry-babies go over and vote republican. But they shouldn’t complain when we get two more Supreme Court Judges that take away the rest of our civil rights, or when the economy turns to even more crap, or we get involved in another war the hurts our efforts on the war on terror, or our energy policy gives more money to the oil companies, or when they take more money from the poor and give it to the drug companies.
Yes, go vote for McCain, the same McCain that was part of the Keating 5 where money was stolen from old people.
It’s time you cry babies grow up and accept the fact that someone is beating Hillary fairly. Go on and keep exaggerating Obama’s past in your feeble attempt to save her campaign, the campaign that is in trouble because of HER screw ups. Keep this up you Clinton democrats and lets give the Republicans another 8 years in the White house.

Big deal; bloggers are sloggers. They do not speak for the American people, they are expressing their own views, regardless of how flawed they may be. The blind following of Oprahma is not only illogical, it is soft soaping the democratic process; playing into the ‘race card’ is as much his doing as his opponents. He slices baloney well, this does not make him Presidential material. I am a Vietnam veteran and would not vote for this guy if he were the ONLY candidate. Somehow he appears to me to have an alternative agenda; and that couldn’t possibly be good for anyone. Well, maybe a few of those with ‘Oprahma fever’. I would see a doctor about that affliction; happily it is not infectious.

I know Obama was lying last night on CNN saying he NEVER heard anything that would be considered “incendiary” from Wright over a 20 year span, I also knew there would be someone to stand up and call Obama’s bluff and validate the fact he was there listening to one or more of these racist/bigoted sermons, more like hundreds. Obama is a liar and it’s caught up with him. And although him made a not so convincing rejection of the things Wright said, he would turn around and say how great Wright is no matter what he said, it was sickening. We got your number this time Obama
Someone names Ronald on FOXNEWS has presented video evidence of Obama being PRESENT at one of Wright’s hate-filled speeches.
Maybe he voted PRESENT at this sermon too…how ironic!!!!

Typical comment by an Obama supporter. If Michelle Obama’s comments were not divisive to the party, then what were they? Speak to the facts, not your negative slurs.

how fast the Democratic Dream Ticket became toast. All it took was the media to finally accept their pony is nothing more than a trick……
and they can thank Ferraro and Spitzer and Rezko this week as well.

Yeap the chickens have come home to roost alright, Obama tried to bamboozle us with his hope and change mantra and now the chickens are do doing all over Obama’s face. Talking about eating crow Obama is having to enjoy a do do crows feet sandwich about now

THIS is EXACTLY how Rovian tactics placed bush in office TWICE! All actual issues aside, there is not a lot of difference between the GOP and Dems. They are all of the same breed with regard to stubborn predictability, and ROVE knew this. Once again, the left will divide and leave itself weak… then, and GOD PLEASE FORBID THIS, the GOP will place yet another warmonger into office.

Seriously, I cant believe you people. So, by your same logic, hillary is crooked because of her connections to other people she is RELATED to. I didnt think America had become this dumb, but the comments expressed here like ‘hussein obama’ and other show that either hillary supports are idiots or are about as logical are republicans. I can tolerate arguments on their merit, which is what the campaign should be about. But its almost comical to see people call obama supports ‘sheep’ when they in fact parrot the talking points put forth by republicans and the hillary ‘advisors’. The vast majority of hillary and obama supports have more in common than they think. They are all just idiots who cant see past their own bs and fail to bring important issues, but instead the misdirection the campaigns want you to. WTF happened to the my country. Are we so damned blinded by the divisive politics that we cant look out for who matters? US?

most of you here seems to be hillary supporters or republican to be hating on obama at that point,last week when that ferrero story come out i did not see a lot of peoples like this saying it was wrong,and now here they come with all of this non sense,you guys better sit down and see how your hillary and mac cain will lose to obama,i guess thats why you all want him out of the race, dont be scared of a honest blackman

The Dems allowed Obama and his “HOPE” mantra to grow and grow only because they knew Hillary and her socialism and big load of baggage would never be President. Now they are in a nut cracker as thier HOPE has become a DOPE… and the party is falling all over itself for being so inept and running a candidate who should glide into office. NOT.

Davidfrat4,
No, the Clinton “scandals” are not old news, but they are FALSE. Go ahead and yell them out on the rooftops. It just makes you look more ignorant. It’s ignorant to compare the Clinton’s scandals to Nixon, who was a criminal. Reasonable people will recognize the Clinton scandals for what they really are–failed vast right wing strategy to overthrow them.
Don’t play that “Hillary is polarizing” cards. Hillary supporters are not going to let Republicans pick our president. We are voting for the best.

johnny ..you have to be kidding right? the ferrero story was everywhere so much she was forced to resign, and now we are waiting for Obama to do the right thing and resign, what a lying hypocrite Obama is

Mark
What are you trying to prove? Does patriotism mean nothing to you?
Dont try to trivialize this….Obama lied on National Television. Atleast Spitzer dint lie..that is the difference between Spitzer and Obama…

I am shocked by the negative reactions pointed at Obama because of what his pastor pearched! All the justificatoins I read for trying to hold Obama accountable for the pearcher’s sermon are not fair and genuine.
Can a fair minded person explain to me what exactly did the pastor say that is differnt from what other critical social observers have said before?

DailyKos has offended me for the last time, just as Chris Matthews did when he attacked any number of Democrats. Also, I am put off by Olbermann, too. I am a liberal but I am a realist. Obama is a loser for the Democrats…he is the most divisive candidate to ever hit the Democratic Party and he has won very few states, if any, that will go for the Democrats in November.

I don’t think most Clinton supporters are “haten on Obama”. But, I believe a vast majority of both Clinton and Obama supporters are sorely dissapointed in Obama’s charade. He is a very gifted fellow and I think one day he can and will make a difference. But, right now he needs to make an amends. The damage is catastophic. He has undermined our trust. It’s repairable, but it will take a long, long time.
I also don’t believe that Hillary has or ever will turn her back on him, no matter who the nominee is. They are in a heated political fight to be sure, but in the end, I think fences can and will be mended. At least, I hope so….

Make that “If Hillary Clinton’s opponent was behind by 150+ delegates……..”

Obama exit stage right

Since it is too easy to be anonymous on blogs like these, I’m going to hypothesize that the posters with anti-Hillary “handles” and comments are actually Republicans working overtime to create divisiveness.

Remember the phrase from Apollo 13 “Houston we have a problem”! Well you can bet that that is what the superdelegates are saying now. With this Wright revelation you can rest assured that there will not be any defections to the Obama camp in the near future. This probelm goes to the heart of Mr. Obamas credibilty and to central argument for his candidacy, that is the fact that what is important is not experience but judgement. What does it say about is judgement to put a man who he knew was controversial even before the release of these viedos as a member of his campaign? He also campaigned with Rev. Wright in Iowa where he was asked about Wrights travel with Farrakahn to Lybia and the fact that the church had given Farrakahn a lifetime acheivement award. These things took place before Sermongate yet he failed to distance himself from Rev. Wright. Was this good judgement? Now he says that even though he has known him for 20 yrs, he preformed his marriage ceremony, babtized his childern, consulted him for his advice before announcing his candidacy that he was unaware of any of Rev Wrights radical views. Well that in my opinion is incredulous. He must have know that Mr. Wright was a liability since he disinvited him from his public announcement that he was going to run for the presidency. Why did he tell hime not to come? He knew he had a problem yet he failed to do anything about it. So here he is and here the Democrats are with this hanging around his and our neck like an albatross. This is going to provide the superdelegates with a tough choice do they give the noimation to someone who because of this revelation is so hanicapped that he can’t win in november or do they do that for which they were created and that is to be a safety valve and go against the delegates if need be in order to put forth a canidate that can win? I think that the pressure to give the nomination to Obama will be so intense from the black community that he will get the nomination even thought he has failed his own test,good judgement. In the end what looked like certain victory is now in doubt and probably out of reach. McCain is looking more and more like a winner! Who could have imagined?

Martha Davidson: Actually it was Fox News that first said that they had the videos, then Brian Ross had a segment on Good Morning America. Either way they were not hidden videos they were purchased online I think from the church. I would not consider that digging them up like the Obama people say. Just like the photo of him in african garb was taken by his own film crew. It is hard to smear someone with their own viedos and pictures.

Yes we can. Is “we” possibly for one race?

AFRICAN-AMERICANS, as all Americans, will assess the Obama judgement for what it is, a very poor judgement, and will re-assess whether he should be backed for President. African-Americans, in the great majority, do not support racial intolerance from people of any color. Nor do they support association with racial intolerance. Like with any other group, Wright represents a fringe element. Inasmuch as Obama knowingly placed a rascist person on his campaign, the great majority of African-Americans will have pause as to whether he is supportable. If we assess the facts, through a national conversation, much as we assessed the facts when Trent Lott made racially-insensitive remarks and lost a power seat in the Senate, I’m quite certain that most African-Americans, no different from all Americans, will arrive at the conclusion that Obama cannot be supported, and there has been some loss of trust.

to martha ,do you really think that some of the votes that have already taken place wouldnt be different now? obama is UNELECTABLE in november,period.it is beyound reason to beleive he did not know how radicle rev. wright is,and if any of you obamaites think that moderate democrats like myself would for party unity vote for him now ,i have some swampland id like to sell you with great potential.

What is sad about Obama is that he used Jeremiah Wright to get in good with the black community where he could get their vote when he was a up and coming wannabe Congressman and now he wants to be president and he wants us to believe that he had nothing to do with him during the 20 year relationship so he can be the President. He wants his cake and eat it too. I think Wright and Farrakhan both knew this and thats why you see both of them supporting him even after he denounced and rejected them outright. There is a plan behind that. You know Obama is giving them a “wink and nod” just like he did Canada and just like his Iraq war plan. Don’t be fooled America or this country will be in the toilet.

frank tells: I take it Hillary can’t count on you for your vote.

They are both opportunists, Hillary just sat by in her sad marriage to get the chance to run for President and Obama just used these way out religious hate figures to get to his Senatorial job…. and although McCain is the greatest candidate on planet America, at least he has fought tooth and nail an honest old fashion American way.

Obama is a very sharp guy and i support him all the way. i believe God has got great plans for him and i believe one of the plans is to make him President of the USA. You can try to fight him but if God says he is the one, The almight God will fight for him. You can say all the negative things about him but greater is he who is in this man than the one who is the world. No weapon fashioned against Obama shall proper. If God is For Obama who can be against him. i cancel every word that has been said against him. May the words be rendered useless. May all those who judge be judged by the almight God. May the curses bounce back to those who are cursing him.

Obama the last time I check was leading Hillary, if any body needs to GET OUT !is Hillary. She is the SPOLIER!the math is against her,but she rather tear down the Dem party,because she is so desperate to get back in the white house.Because his preacher is racist doesn’t mean Obama is one. How many Cath changed their faith with all the press in recent years about priests molestaion of little boys. Hillary just wants to stay in the race so she can try and CHEAT! and STEAL ! the nomination.

The focus of this story was the “strike” at Daily Kos. The people posting here have made the focus the elect-ability of the remaining candidates and a forum for their own political preferences and bigotries. Who cares? The American electorate was never given the opportunity to even experience who if anyone that entered the primaries might have actually been the best consideration for America. As a result we get what we have. Four more years of status quo that sustains a corrupt two party system, a republican who falls well beyond the median age of his constituency and two democrats that are effectively destroying any chance a democrat has to win the general election. By allowing ourselves to be led like sheep through the election cycle thus far by the MSM, we’ve brought this once more, upon ourselves. Instead feeling indignant at Hil’ or Obama, this board should be all about the shame we share collectively.

Harley: I would like to tell you how right your are but I am afraid that Wright has now become wrong.

WOW! The vitriol expressed here is so disingenous. All of these folks expressing “shock and outrage” are folks who are absolutely delighted to have found a sliver of “coverage” not to support Obama and in revealing their own ignorance or bigotry or preferences for whatever reason. I love the Clintoons supporters of America’s Evita Hillary that are playing the shocked “victim” card that Hillary does so well when things are not going her way. I am convinced that none of the writers of negative responses to the Obama situation were Obama leaning supporters anyway and this is a classic Clintonian attempt to imply mass rejection of Obama – Sorry, Obama supporters tend to be smarter and all grown up politically. Anyway you guys make good theatre!

Regarding Louis Farrakhan, Obama stated: “And I would reject and denounce,” he said, giving rise to much laughter and applause from the audience during the debate with Hillary Clinton. Yet Obama’s church gave an award to Louis Farrakhan (Obama is a church member for over 20 years, with over 6,000 people attending and this information was never shared with him).
Regarding Pastor Wright who obviously hates America and white people in general, Obama stated regarding his statements: “inflammatory and appalling”, I reject them completely-they are not ones that reflect my values or my ideas or Michelle’s”. Yet for 20 years he sat in church listening to these values. Obama states that he did not attend the sermon that everyone is referring to “Damn America”. No one told him about the sermon, not one of the 6,000 people in the church mentioned anything about this sermon to him knowing that he was a Senator at the time. His wife didn’t hear anything about this sermon ever, and none of the 6,000 church goers and friends told her anything about this sermon.
Regarding Rezko and a 17 year relationship, Obama has stated that he was “boneheaded” (Obama’s words not mine), and therefore that issue is now dead. He also stated publically that he took no favors from Rezko. But this too has to be questioned because Rezko purchased the lot next to Obama’s house for $600,000 because Obama didn’t have enough money; even though he bought he purchased him home with help from Rezko at a very large discount? That is not a favor?

I still can’t believe that you are willing to vote against your interest just because someone’s pastor said something controversial…. wow!

Apology for this long post. But, I hope someone will read it :).
Putting aside the argument about what counts and what does not, let us think how we get here.
The election started with Clinton’s 20% lead. Her campaign staff, full of highly-paid “strategist” and pollsters (boy, $250K per month!!), never thought that the election would pass super Tuesday or they would lose Iowa. They were the ones who messed up Clinton’s campaign. Out of desperation, they threw “kitchen sink” which essentially gained no delegates to their side. But the campaign changed dramatically after that. Clinton’s staff had this brilliant idea to attack Obama by questioning his readiness and stating that McCain is more ready. I seriously think these guys are really working for Repulicans. Ok, let’s put math and her chances of winning aside. We can agree that these guys/gals messed up Clinton’s election once. I can also say what they are doing is messing up democrats, regardless whoever gets the nomination.
Clinton is pushed by her campaign and her surrogates to continue fighting. These guys have no courage to take the responsibility for their own failure. As the principle, Clinton should take the leadership role and calmly analyze the situation and make the right choice. Instead, she simply follows her staff’s direction. Because nobody in her campaign wants to take the blame (or risk) to tell her the truth and because of her inability to calmly analyze the situation, she fights on. At this moment, her strategy is destroying democratic party, whether it is her intention or not. By the end of the process, we are going to have a seriously wounded party.
Mrs. Clinton, please take the leadership role and show us that you are indeed READY ON DAY ONE! Being READY means not only ready to follow your pollsters, but also ready to make tough decisions. Let’s hope cool heads prevail.
Oh, Well, I guess I am just a dreamer, sadly.

Go ahead and elect Obamerama. Then you will find out what Change is. He has an agenda; I haven’t trusted this guy from day 1. He sounds like a preacher calling his flock. They don’t care that his church is racist; his minister and wife hate America. He’s buying votes and intimidating superdelegates, but that is his right.

Dee, I am just saying the truth. BTW, If it’s Hillary verses Mccain, I would vote for hillary in other words, I won’t vote a Republican. Think about it.

All right it is gut check time. For all you Obama lovers can you seriously say that after Sermongate that Obama can win in November? Can he win in PA,OH,FL. The republicans are not going to let this go away. Its like a judge instructing a jury to disregard the fact that a witness said that the defendant had murdered someone else in the past. Do you really think that the jury is going to disregard it? The genie is out of the bottle and to think that this is not going to be a major problem for Obama is ignoring the obvious at least and delusional at best.

As an Independent and PROUD of it, the General Election will find my vote in this order: OBama over McCain, McCain over Clinton. The only way I would not vote is if McCain ran unopposed. I would not consider voting for Nadar or Clinton, but would vote against Clinton if she shows up on any ticket. Personally, I think she should be running as a Republican, but I still wouldn’t vote for her. Maybe as Nadars vice president…Na, not even then. She’s the wrong person for office, period.

MORE………
The pastor and Rezko are bad enough, but Google “Obama, Iraq Billionaire” and see what you get.
Iraqi gave Obama millions.

I don’t like Obama. He is a socialist and apparently holds the ‘hater’ Wright in high regard.

Has everyone saw the video of Obama in 2005 when he just became a Senator and they asked him about running for President and he said that he didn’t think he has the experience to do that yet? The only reason Obama is running is because he got lucky and gave that speech in 2002 against the war and thought that would be enough since the war was unpopular when the campaign began. Now that the war is on the back burner and the Economy is front and center. He really can’t touch Hillary on that. Plus I guess he didn’t think we would know that since that speech he’s said twice that he didn’t know how he would have voted if he was a Senator during the authorization and that he was were George Bush was on the war. Oh and for everyone that thinks Hillary is lying when she said that her vote wasn’t for war but it was to get the inspectors back in and that she warned George Bush about abusing the power he was getting and he lied to them. Go look up Hillary Clinton’s Senate Floor speech on Iraq war vote. It’s very insightful. In the speech she sounds like she knew what she was talking about. She just got screwed by George Bush. But lets remember George Bush wasnt the monster he is today back then. Back then the country was united around him and he screwed us too.

Dailykos just like most blogsphere and mainstream media have not scrutinized Obama. His connections to Rezko, Wright and other seedy figures are all looked over by dailykos. Even in Wright’s case we saw very selective statements by him. The real hateful stuff about Jews, women, and gays has been left out by the TV coverage. McCain’s and Hillary’s associations are researched to detail, as they should be.
Obama is enjoying the favoritism of media and it should stop.

I never thought I see the day where the Media who could care less about Religion would focus on the pastor of a Presidential candidate. Not the policy of the man, not the history of the man, but his pastor. I never seen them do a report about his mother nor his grandparents. I only seen a little snipet of his grandmother in Kenya. But who cares about them, lets focus on his pastor. And now, Obama is the ONLY church goer who agrees with his pastor 100% and shares his views 100%. The media is as bad as it gets. We need to help Obama out and change the tone of the debate. We need to hit up every blog, every newspaper, every talk radio station and make the public aware of Hillary’s role in giving clemency to the 16 F.A.L.N terrorist. We must insist they talk about it. We ust insist they investigate. We must insist that the documents of the clemencies and all names involved are released. We can not let the Clintons and the Clinton Media turn America against Obama. How can we stand by while she touts her experience when we all know she struck a deal with Luis N. Falcon (lobbyist and reported FALN leader) to free the terrorist in exchange for support from the Puerto Rican community in her upcoming senate race. PA needs to know that for the first time in America’s History, clemency was given to 16 terrorist even though they did not request it. It is procedure that you request clemency first. They need to know that the TERRORIST turned in down intitially. They need to know Hillary is willing to sell us out for POWER. It’s up to us. Spread the word.
WE ARE WHO WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR>

New Zogby poll shows McCain pulling away…. up 6 points now! Poor Democrats just did not take how serious Move On and Daily Kos had taken them to the extremes of leftism…. sorry but America is still a centrist society.

How belittled is a Democratic voter? Their vote is only about worth 80 cents on the dollar…. in the end none of them may have any worth as some big bosses will choose for them… humiliating.

If Clinton and Obama want to make sure one of them actually wins the election, they need to stop flinging dirt at each other. Here’s a simple way to do this:
Both publicly pledge that if are nominated for President, the other candidate will be their first choice for the Vice Presidential spot.
This immediately puts a stop to personal attacks, or calling their rival’s ability into question; you don’t disrespect you’re the person you’ve chosen to be your second-in-command. The candidates can still debate the issues and clarify their differences, but the main focus of their anger and outrage can now be directed at the Bush-McCain policies of the past 8 years.
This fall, Obama or Clinton will need to lead a unified party if they want to ensure victory. This requires the enthusiastic support of the other, and of the voters who voted for him or her in the primaries and caucuses,
Obama-Clinton, Clinton-Obama – either “dream team” is McCain’s worst nightmare. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama can make that nightmare a reality for him now.

Robert please……. the dream ticket is now the nightmare stub.

Little lefties can blame their MSM for being so dishonest since 2001. The Clintons owned the press but when it became obvious she had too much baggage to win the presidency they falsely propped the Hope Man while bailing on their Clinton loyalty. In that time they showed all of Hillary’s weakness which for so long hid and now they are caught with an American Hater as their pony in the race. In the meantime a guy like McCain, middle of the road is going to walk on into the White House as the liberals now understand both their candidates are beyond flawed and actually not worthy. Wow.

Hillary, if she gets the nomination will not win. The black support will go to John McCain- they will not stay home, they will go to the polls in record numbers and support McCain. Maybe this was Obama’s role after all- to steer black Americans back to the republican party-the party of Lincoln.

There is no one more divisive than Hillary. Just fact. Every poll shows it so. Most my friends say so and I am a Libertarian and do not pimp for either major party.

I’m happy to tell you all that I am one of the core strikers. The Kos administrators and Kos himself are shills for Obama and have allowed his supporters to bend site rules and harass anyone that backs Senator Clinton.
Most recently, they have attempted to track out down in real life — our names, our employers — and the admins stood by and let the thread continue.
Disgusting, sexist, hateful statements about Senator Clinton have been uprated frequently. Daily Kos is a hate site.

Tennessee…
If McCain wins we might as well hunker down for another four years in Iraq.

All younger Voters do you all see how the older American ppl are? We all should be able to Date or Marry who ever we want! The older generation are still caught up in that white should marry white and same for the minority’s!, This is Wrong! Obama brings New Politics and a change to this Great Country.Time for the Old ways to move on, and time to bring in the New! Vote Obama in Nov.Lets take out the Trash

This is rediculous…
Enough is enough.
The entire thing needs to END. I don’t care WHO wins, just that someone does. There is too much division for this to be America.
I hate what is happening. I needs to STOP! The only way to end it is for whichever democrat to have the other as VP. It’ll at least pacify a large portion of the fighting public. But that’s not going to happen either.

Context. Evaluating what people say, especially when it appears to be something controversial, within a gestalt, or context, takes spiritual maturity.
I would ask those who read what follows from such a place – a place that wishes the best for all…
I am a former chaplain (Caucasian and female) who attended two seminaries and spent part of my life in “The Church.”
After reading many of the posts on this latest “Wright” controversy, I decided to check out, not only the church in question, but the reverend’s theological training and background. (I was assuming, based on what has been written and reported, that this was possibly some guy who had received his degree from a less-than-reputable seminary and was probably preaching his so-called “Gospel of Hate” out of his own sense of…whatever.)
Come to find out, Rev. Wright received his Master of Divinity degree from the University of Chicago Divinity School. Hmm. Not exactly “fringe” stuff. And also discovered….he received a doctorate from United Theological Seminary (Ohio)…a school that dared to graduate a woman way back in 1886! Wow. Progressive, to say the least.
Then I checked out Trinity’s website. Lo and behold, I found nearly 60 specialized ministries meant to support and uplift – including a singles community ministry that even offers a group just for “same gender loving” folk!
More wow. (And where’s all that hate?)
So, does this mean I agree with the way Rev. Wright expressed himself on the occasions that have generated so much controversy? No. However, knowing his impeccable theological training, and noting the extensive educational backgrounds of Trinity’s staff…
…and noting as well the remarkable ministries they provide to a wide variety of people within and around their community…
…my inclination is to simply try to “walk in his shoes.” And remember the era he grew up in. Remember what he probably witnessed. Or experienced directly himself. Oprah? Not even a possibility at that time.
Many are soooo quick to judge and condemn… people. So quick to crucify…people. Without attempting to understand.
Without attempting to open….the heart. And by so doing…
…choose to see only the “flaws.” All the while refusing to see any of the grand and glorious.
This is a man who grew a congregation of 72 to a congregation of thousands. A man who, in his own way, attempted to preach the gospel to those who were living a radically different version of “The American Dream.” Quite simply: They were his family. And they were hurting.
No, Barack did not withdraw himself from this pastor who allowed his anger to get the best of him on more than one occasion. But I admire the senator for that. Why?
Because I did the withdrawal thing from my family when it became evident our values were different. I was going to show them…that they had to agree with me or else. And it was a mistake. A huge mistake.
Three years later I returned. More mature. More able to look past our points of difference. More able to find our points of commonality. And more able to express love.
Guess what happened? I found, to my surprise, that I actually had more influence on them by sticking around and being myself…modeling those values so dear to me…than I did when I left them, rejected them.
Thank you, Barack, for “getting it.” You had to know the political risks of sticking with “your crazy uncle.” Yet you chose to anyway. Until the climate got so bad…
I’m sorry things are such that you feel you can no longer even talk with the man without getting condemned, ripped to shreds. Just know, I see the good in him. I didn’t take offense. Rather…I tried to understand. And hope I succeeded.
P.S. Thanks, too, for allowing Geraldine the same kind of error by giving context to her remarks as well. Patently absurd comments? Yes. Just like the ones that came from Rev. Wright. But racist? You said no. And I agree. The era they lived through…no doubt played a role here. You recognized such.
Spiritual maturity at its best.

I HAVE ONE (OR MAYBE TWO) WORDS FOR ALL OF YOU WHO SAY THAT OBAMA SHOULD HAVE KNOWN WHATEVER AFTER 20 YEARS……
& GIVE HILLARY A PASS ON ANY RESPONSIBILITY LIKE THE MORE THAN 20 YEARS SHE DID BUSINESS WITH THE CONVICTED FELONS SUSAN & HER HUSBAND, WHAT SUSAN YOU SAY. HEY, LET ME ANSWER WITH THAT WORD.
THE WORD(S): WHITEWATER
NUFF SAID.

I agree with Rick. Obama is a Trojan horse for hatemongers. I sometimes think he really is sincere in wanting to unite America, unfortunately, he has been used by some very undesirable people for their own nefarious purposes and his poor judgement will bring his downfall. It’s really rather tragic.

All younger Voters do you all see how the older American ppl are? We all should be able to Date or Marry who ever we want! The older generation are still caught up in that white should marry white and same for the minority’s!, This is Wrong! Obama brings New Politics and a change to this Great Country.Time for the Old ways to move on, and time to bring in the New! Vote Obama in Nov.Lets take out the Trash

The Clintons lost my respect when they started acting like Republicans during this campaign. Bill going on Rush Limbaugh’s show around MS primary?? For what purpose?

Hillary is not fit to be commander in chief, she has no class. Obama should not pick her as VP, she will bring some negative dirt to the ticket. If Obama is realy for change, Hillary has no place in the ticket. Go get Al Gore and make the dream ticket with him. If you can’t get AL Gore, get Jon Kerry. If you can’t get Kerry, try even Schwarzenegger. If nobody wants the ticket THEN get Chelsea Clinton but Hillary no way. This is an advice from a Hispanic.

OBAMA NEVER ADMITS ANY MISTAKES. WHEN HE WAS FOUND COPYING WHOLE SPEECH FROM ANOTHER PERSON, HE SAID:”THAT IS NO BIG DEAL” INDEED, IF HE HAD DONE THAT IN HARVARD, HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AN “f”. WITHOUT ABC’S INVESTIGATION, HE WOULD NEVER ADMIITED THAT REZKO HAD CONTRIBUTED MORE THAN $100,000 WHICH IS FAR LESS THAN THE ACTUAL CONTRIBUTION. NOW HE IS ADMITTING DRIBS AND DRABS BUT STILL NOT THE WHOLE TRUTH. INSTEAD OF ANSWERING A VERY GOOD QUESTION FROM SOME SHARP JOURNALIST:” DO YOU HAVE GOOD JUDGEMENT WHEN YOU SOLICITATED REZCO’S HELP IN BUYING THE MANSION?” HE JUST WALKED AWAY. GEE, HILLARY MUST HAVE COACHED HIM TO DO ALL THESE WHICH CLEARLY SHOWED HE DOES NOT ONLY MAKE LOTS OF MISTAKES, BUT HE SIMPLY CAN’T ADMIT THEM AND FIND ALL WAYS TO EXCUSE HIMSELF. SOMETIMES THE EXCUSES HE MAKES ARE ABSURD, JUST LIKE NOW HE IS BLAMING THE “DIVISIVE” FORCE FOR HIS TROUBLE.

By the time the dems are done tearing each other apart, McCain will be a breath of fresh air. If Obama does not win, blacks will not vote. If Clinton does not win, Southern woman will vote by race and hand McCain the white house.
it is inevitable, i hope mccain picks a democrat running mate.

It’s over Obama step down now for the good of America

notricksplease: it is very, very clear that you have very selective eyes and ears and only pick up dribs and drabs here and there that you think support your view of Obama and you totally ignore all the details of facts that go against your view and that will take away your ammunition against him. Obama has answered all these things and taken action to rectify his mistakes. He has and is admiting his mistakes in public and has and is taking steps to be open and transparent in his activities. Why do you ignore Clinton’s mess and the fact that she has failed to match Obama in publicising her activities and decisions. If you want to demonstrate that you are unbiased and are able to see all sides, then also speak about Hillary’s mess, speak even about McCain’s mess. The bottom line is that Hillary Clinton should have had a good long think before starting this fire. Let’s see who gets burnt to a crisp.

I sometimes strongly disagree with the framing of the topics and the content on Political Punch, which may unnecessarily fan the political conflicts out there (just think about the title of this blog for example), but I do respect its author as someone who is willing to entertain opposing viewpoints, civilly. That’s the same reason I find myself drawn to Andrew Sullivan’s and Josh Marshall’s blogs.
I mention this because I feel a bit sorry for ABC at the harshness of many of the comments on here, not that this is the only site prone to a long string of nasty arguments.
I think many if not most of us are sick of the harshness of politics in the US. Yet judging by the comments here (and on most web blogs) it seems it’s just a reflection of the American people.
If we’re going to complaining but the gridlock, divisiveness and combatitiveness of American politics, maybe we have no one to blame but ourselves.

I have heard about and observed this nastyness of the Obama supporters over and over again. It would be interesting if someone did a study comparing the psychological make ups of Clinton and Obama supporters, it might give you a clue about the candidates to see what personalities are drawn to them.

Will the real Senator Obama please stand up!
Mr. Obama has run his campaign based on one good judgement, not even a vote. He claims the people he surrouinds himself with are the best.These were to be his closest most trusted advisors. So far, they have been proven to be racists, crooks, and behind the scenes deal makers. He keeps aplogizing for the decisions(judgements)h he has made, about the people he has judged to be his mentors, and advisors.Our country can not take the chance. We don’t have the time to see what he truly has up his sleeve. He apparently, like Geoerge W. Bush, beleives the American voters are ignorant and will vote for charisma and charm, not experience. I HOPE too.I hope the voters get it straight and vote for our country and not against it. Vote for our economy, not hope for a change. Vote for our national secutity, and for our rights. The racism that the Obama campaign keeps screaming about is their own. The media just couldn’t see that through their own cloud of misinformation.
Obama we need you to STEP DOWN NOW!!!!!
YOU ARE A WOLF IN SHEEP CLOTHING!!!!
HILLARY 08

Obama is: charasmatic, gives people hope, is a very talented speaker, promises big change, rallies the people, and has overzealous followers, ……………… Sounds a little like Adolf Hitler, doesn’t it.
I mean, really, think about that! No, Obama has no plans of genocide, but don’t be blind like the Germans of the 1930s. NO politician is a savior. NO politician has the power to solve all our problems. NO politician can change things by himself, unless he is a dictator like Hitler was.
Please consider that as you decide who you’ll vote for. Remember the old saying, “If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.”

What’s all the hoopla about here anyway about some preacher? I just read that obama got another 9 delegates from Iowa and net 3 from california. Which makes him lead Clinton by like – what? 155 pledged delegates? with several superdelegates leaning to throwing in their lot with the leader?
We should have expected Obama to be swift boated on the issue of the reverend. I kind of doubt that there is a single black person in the country who didn’t at some point in their life find comfort at a church much like wright’s. I saw some of the tapes, and heard nothing beyond what we all know. Yes, it’s a racist society in lots of places, and yes, it’s enough to make people’s blood boil. But instead of ranting and raving all day long, they tolerate the indnigites during the week, then attend a find black church on the week end with some proper fiery sermon, and that helps exorcise the devil. Which devils BTW seem to be lurking big time on this board. many probably the same crowd whp cheered on the military – with its disproportionately many black soldiers – to just go on into Iraq and bring them some of that good american democracy medicine.
Get used to it – you all – Obama will be our next president. There really is no other choice…

darlin, you said “What’s all the hoopla about here anyway about some preacher? I just read that obama got another 9 delegates from Iowa and net 3 from california. Which makes him lead Clinton by like – what? 155 pledged delegates? with several superdelegates leaning to throwing in their lot with the leader?”
The answer – kool-aid.

Obama needs to step down, he can never be elected now. I thought he had a great chance but after the preacher and his good friend in jail in chicago, man i dont think so. Obama cant sit there with a straight face and tell us he never heard this preacher say these things before or had not heard them , because he has said he listens to the disk of his preachings. I just cant buy that one at all, SORRY!!!!

ATTENTION; Delegates/Super-Delegates, Do you see what Hillary has done since S.C.? For Praising McCain who is a Republican, to her Racist Comments, she should be BOOTED from the Democratic Party

Can someone point out just one example of Obama demonstrating good judgement? You can’t use the Iraq war vote because Obama has already stated he didn’t know how he would have voted because he wasn’t in the senate at that time and didn’t see the intelligence reports (even though he gave a speech in 2002 being against the war–a speech is not the same as a vote). I’m seeing several examples of Obama’s poor judgement that include his relationship with Rezko and purchasing the house/land deal, drugs/sex story and Larry Sinclair, and Rev. Wright’s inflamatory sermons, etc…
Please point out one example of good judgement of Obama that has nothing to do with the Iraq war.

obama has handled Hillary quiet well.
she can’t catch him.she’s done!her protest are just that.
she can go back to the senate and live out the rest of her days as the junior senator of new york.

Our pledge of allegiance states that we are one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. When you think about these words, if you are an honest person then you have to admit that they are not true, because we are divided, we don’t all have the same liberties and there is certainly not justice for all.
Right now a large number of white Americans are outraged at the words of the Rev. wright, while a large amount of black Americans are wondering what they are outraged about.
A lot of white Americans see his remarks as racist and unpatriotic, they feel that he hates whites and America.
A lot of black Americans feel that his remarks have some truth to them. That We have bombed several nations for our own selfish reasons, we have killed many innocent men, women, and children.
When he said that America’s chickens were coming home to roost after 911, most white people took that to mean that he is saying that America deserved to be attacked.
Most black people look at it as a what’s good for the goose is good for the gander type of issue, that just like America loves it’s citizens and think it was unfair for someone to kill thousands of innocent people in the workd trade center, then those other countries love their citizens too and America can’t go around the Globe creating chaos and not expcect somenone to strike back at us.
The Rev. Wright didn’t lie about these things. When he said that Hillary didn’t grow up as a little black boy with a single mother, Hillary never had to watch a cab whizz past her because of the color of her skin, Hillary has never been called that offensive word, all of those statrments are true and the only thing racial about them are the actions that many in this country take against people of color.
The remarks that most people saw on tv and the internet were excerpts taken from two different speeches and the editors did’t show what Mr. wright said before or after those comments. The media did this on purpose to incite anger among whites and for a large part it has worked. But the honest white people are not angered, only saddened that this great country of ours in 2008 is still so racially divided. They are saddened that a good man is being wrongly condemned because of the words of another that make some people uncomfortable.
I have heard so many people say that the world is watching our election process, I say, God is watching and I don’t think he is pleased, and I think that is why he has been trying to get our attention and we need to wake up and listen. For example; There was a terrible storm in Atlanta over the weekend that people are saying “came from out of nowhere”
Devastating tornadoes struck four states on Super Tuesday. There was a really bad snow storm in Ohio the day after the primaries there. there were snowstorms and wild fires after the Texas primaries , there are more incidences also, but the words I have heard after every one of these instances were “We have never seen anything like it”
Gas prices are out of control, thousands of people are losing their homes and jobs, groceries are so expensive that many people who once could eat a healthy diet can no longer afford to do so. Our dollar is constantly falling in value, Our education system is steadily getting worse and crime is rampant. Until America recognizes the wrongs we have done and continue to do and don’t try to rectify them, this nation as a whole is going to continue to suffer.
II Chronicles 7:14 If my people which are called by name shall humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from Heaven and forgive their sin and heal their land.

You know what “obama supporters,” you’re in for a damn rude awakening, sooner than later.
I’ll tell you what, when someone can say THIS about Bill Clinton, two months ago, and not hear a peep from you or the media, then I know who’s hypocritical, and talking out of both sides of their mouth. You’re JUST LIKE BUSH SUPPORTERS!:
Sen. Bill Perkins of NY:
“This is not Bill Clinton’s backyard or his plantation. Underscore, plantation, underscore backyard.”
Does Bill Clinton own slaves? Cuz I personally feel smearing a once-good enough Democratic President in favor of a perceived “black” candidate is pretty racist.
Secondly,
YOU DO NOT ATTEND A CHURCH with a pro-nounced focus on “black values,” with a pastor who has been friends with Louis Farrakhan (do you admit he’s a racist, and anti-semite, or are you going to lie about that too?) for a long time; a trip to Tripoli in what, 1984? and Wright gave an award to a guy like Farrakhan and called him a great man…this has all been recent, but Obama feigns surprise that his personal friend/mentor for TWENTY YEARS is so racially focused?
Oh please…along with Michelle Obama’s thesis on “racial divide” and disappointed that her thesis showed that her fellow black peers lost their “black identity”, Wright’s close association with Farrakhan, Obama’s close association with Wright (for TWENTY YEARS!) coupled with Senator Perkins “plantation” comment pretty much tells me how hypocritical Obama, his supporters, and the mainstream media are.
Furthermore, as a flaming liberal, I’m disgusted that Obama supporters are sucking up what the MSM has to sell them, after we’ve spent the last 7 years denouncing them for giving bush cover on EVERYTHING.
You people are ridiculous.

McCain is an Idiot — 100 years more war. This is for all the Republican attacker. Hillery and Obama are both great!!!

Well, let’s see…
Has Senator Obama bublicly elevated the Republican candidate above Ms. Clinton? Nope, opps, that was Hillary.
Has Senator Obama, in a red rage ranted “SHAME on you Hillary Clinton!!!” Nope, opps. That was Hillary.
Has Senator Obama waited a week or so to see how internal polling says he should respond to rantings from his spouse and/or senior staff? Nope, opps. That was Hillary.
Did Senator Obama go negative on TV in the Wisconsin primary? Nope, opps again. That was Hillary.
Did Senator Obama go negative on TV in Texas and Ohio while declaring he was using the “kitchen sink” attack? Nope. Opps again and again. That was Hillary.
Did Senator Obama wait for internal polling when one of his own spoke out-of-turn? Nope. “Not on my campaign.” Fired, end of story.
Thank you, Senator Obama, for acting as Presidential as possible while the kitchen sink is being continuously thrown at you. You are demonstrating a “Class Act.”
As to Alegre, DailyKOS will miss her. But we won’t miss her laundry list of fellow-travelers who have whined, often thrown around the f-bomb, and in general made Senator Clinton’s supporters look so little and trite.

VICTIMS FOR HILLARY UNITE!!!! Such an odd story. So from what I could gather from going to DK, these folks are boycotting posting because they don’t like the things people are saying about Hillary? God, get used to it… its only just begun. If she somehow managed to become president… you’d be in for 4 years of hell people. That is if you can’t stand people saying bad things about her. They’ve been beating her up for the last 15 years. She’s not well liked if you haven’t noticed. She kinda brings out the worst in some. This is not news to anyone who’s been awake in the last 15 years. Dang.

BEA — I like the way you listed the different kinds of Americans. Probably best just to say “all americans” and leave it at that, don’t you think?

I just went to the Daily Kos site. I couldnt agree more. The lopsided, anti-woman, gender-biased, messed up media, overzealous and hypocritical Obama supporters hate mongering individuals who have taken over the web and mass media must stop. I for one support the boycott and wish it would go further to include msnbc and other media outlets who continually debase Hillary Clinton based on gender and refuse to hold Obama to the same measuring stick. I am beyond doing whats best for the party. Its now a matter of doing whats best for humanity. Whats fair and just is a much stronger conviction than whats best for the party. Its not the demobama party but the democratic party.

poluka< An other is a other attack Republican posing a Democratic.
Dont let them devide us!!!
United we can make MCCain become history!!
God bless Hillary and Obama

Obama has run a dirty campaign behind the scenes. His supporters are the most hateful people I’ve met since the neocons during the WMD days. If one asks questions regarding, or voices opposition to Obama’s platforms, they are personally attacked and called racist. This is an attempt to intimidate people into silence. This is race baiting at its worst. Imagine what this country would be like if Obama sat in the White House. No way will I, and may others, support Obama. My allegiance is America, not the Democratic Party.

The bloom is off the Obama rose. The blank canvas is becoming a disturbing painting. Obama offers no unity or change in a good direction. He’s spent 20 years being told to hate. It’s too much for some of us to accept.

Poor Hillary and Ferraro are the victims, right? We know Hillary is ALWAYS THE VICTIM.
One thing I do know is that the Clintons do and have always shamelessly pandered to African Americans. They have played the race card over and over again in this election and please don’t insult me by saying they have not. Bill Clinton makes his frequent visits to all black churches during the election…just like he always did. But ONLY during elections.
Does it surprise anyone that all you hear on the news now is how the flames of racism in America have been fanned?
Whether it is a crazy old black minister or a crazy old elite white woman, we are back to a 1960′s mentality here in 2008.
Have we wiped out years of trying to move beyond racist sentiments? From a quick look at the headlines I would say apparently so. But, I really think the American voters are as sick and tired of this as I am. I think they will make up their own minds and not be swayed by all this rhetoric.
I’m pretty sure when they do, it won’t be in favor of Hillary Clinton. But this is coming from a crazy white woman who likes to think Americans really are better than this.

i felt sad what i heard to Obama about his pastor.Truly, i didn’t expect that now I just wasting my vote and money to him. To all Obama fanatics think twice before you vote for him. Watch the video of his pastor and you will find the answer.Vote for the right person i regret that i voted for Mr.Obama. Thank you and Goodbye Obama for the wonderful “speeches” you had.

People do make mistake and most mistake can be corrected or it can correct itself but this one never and never can. I will never vote for Obama even if Dem has Obama/Clinton ticket and will consider 3 times before I cast Clinton/Obama ballot also.