Clinton’s 1993 NAFTA Meeting

She is a liar and she had nothing to do with foreign policy when she was first lady besides touring some landmarks.. The MSM is a joke for pushing this “Hillary experience” lie.

I am very sure Mrs. Clinton’s view on NAFTA has changed a bit after she understood that she NEEDED to win Ohio because her hubby said so.

They wont even have to go back 14 years Jake. Why not go back 14 days and ask people at Trinity United what he was saying 2 weeks ago to them????

So we are looking at the comments stated now of two supposed attendees back then? Well who are these two attendees? We’re just suppose to believe what people whose names are withheld, say? WEIRD….

That is correct Sharon. I remember.

I had no respect for that woman, Mrs. Clinton, but now I almost feel compassion. She was already in a sinking ship and not they put the weight of 11000 pages on the already heavily damaged boat.
Easy stuff for cartoonists.

NAFTA is a complex issue. It was a comprise of both parties with international interests. NAFTA will be revisited to see if it is still the best interest for US… It is just one of national policies which needs to re-evaluate along with time to fit the best interest of America…
There is no wrong/right doing on this issue…

Article does not carry any weight as it is already establish Hillary was against it, but, she has to support it in public.

Hillary needs to be held accountable for all the things she did while she was in the White House. She supported NAFTA. That’s part of her 35 years of experience. It will be interesting to see what other “experience” Hillary had.

Why won’t the press ask her to explain this?!? Why does the media keep letting her and her campaign get away with telling lie after lie?

Remember: US has been changed trade agreements with other countries year by year…
US used to fight japan 50 year ago now they are the partners…
Again.. there is no wrong/right doing on this trade issue… Only issue is that the trade agreement is still the best interest for US or not…

she was very clear that she was agaisnt NAFTA back then, her position on issuesis whatever is politically convienient at the time.

Will the Gospel According to Jeremiah Wright sink the Obama candidacy? Not very likely.
Let’s start with two basic facts:
(a) Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) has already won the Democratic nomination. It’s over. Regardless of how the remaining primaries and caucuses go, including Michigan and even Florida, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) can never catch Obama in elected delegates. His current lead of 170 pledged delegates will not be overcome no matter what happens. Even if Clinton beats him by 10 points in each of these primaries, he will still lead among elected delegates by over 100. The superdelegates will not override the will of the voters unless Obama is in jail. They will not let themselves in for a civil war by overruling a black man who is beloved by the young by going over the heads of the electorate and naming the candidate that lost the primaries as the nominee. Regardless of how damaged Obama may be by the Wright tapes, it will not provide sufficient cover or cause for them to do so.

“First of all, why we have a right to see what the First lady was doing 14 years ago, or at all, is beyond me. She wasn’t an elected official so what the hell do I care about her calendar as First Lady?”
Is this not what she is calling her “experience”? Now she can pick and choose what she calls experience? Come on now! If you take her years away as being a First Lady then she does not have an “experience” argument. You just made it easy!

Isn’t David Gergen the one who has come out MANY times and stated that Hillary was against NAFTA in the White House and told that she needed to support it because it was a bipartisan effort???? Also, she had been criticized back then for being “loudly” silent on NAFTA…..
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Thank you. David Gergen is a straight shooter.

He He He. First defeat of Obama. Shame Shame Shame.

This is CBSNEWS headline on the relaese of papers; I am absolutely disgusted with the media:
“Hillary Was Home On Day Bill Had Affair”
It looks like the Enquirer!!

ABC…Way to go!!!
Here I was thinking that there were some negotiation of NAFTA by HRC and then I noticed the schedule time: 11:30am – 11:45am (all of 15 minutes)…wow! Hillary is amazing to accomplish so much in 15 minutes!
Again ABC, are you kidding me???

It makes no difference if Hillary was for or against NAFTA, she didn’t have a vote. Just as it makes no difference if Obama was for or against the war. Both Obama and Clinton have stated they will not do away with NAFTA but they will make some changes. This is a non- issue. The real issue is the fact that Obama is done. The right wing is just getting warmed up and there is more to come.

It’s not about changing her opinion after 14 years. It’s about her lies to the Ohio votes who are jobless and suffering. Tax season is going to be even better then this.

Still waiting for the Clinton Library to release the Hillary Healthcare documents. Then the real fireworks will begin. Hillary compaign is already on fire and as more documents are released it just a question of time until she goes up in smoke.
Hillary changed her story so many times she does not know what she said to whom.
Her compaign is done.

FINALLY EXPOSED!!!
Can’t wait for the taxes, errr raa, the final straw that will not only break the camel’s back, but will bury it.

Dear Hillary’s pollster:
Buyers remorse. Do-over in Ohio,please!

All we can say for Clinton is Whoops! I’m not sure we were supposed to see that.

Hey Vanessa,
When will your Obama going to release his Illinois records? Oh yes, he did say he had no record of eight years of work in the state senate. LOL!!!

If anyone is interested, Larry King is taking questions from callers/emailers tonight when he interviews Obama tonight on Iraq and Race. Of course, we can be assured that the questions chosen by cnn will help support their view. I won’t be watching.
So tell me, somehow I may have missed the overwhelming, positive press coverage of Hillarys address she made regarding her views on Iraq this past week. Oh wait, it’s more important to cover where she slept the night Bill was with Monica. Outrageous.

FOR MUTTSOLDIER:
FOOD FOR THOUGHT:
Will the Gospel According to Jeremiah Wright sink the Obama candidacy? Not very likely.
Let’s start with two basic facts:
(a) Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) has already won the Democratic nomination. It’s over. Regardless of how the remaining primaries and caucuses go, including Michigan and even Florida, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) can never catch Obama in elected delegates. His current lead of 170 pledged delegates will not be overcome no matter what happens. Even if Clinton beats him by 10 points in each of these primaries, he will still lead among elected delegates by over 100. The superdelegates will not override the will of the voters unless Obama is in jail. They will not let themselves in for a civil war by overruling a black man who is beloved by the young by going over the heads of the electorate and naming the candidate that lost the primaries as the nominee. Regardless of how damaged Obama may be by the Wright tapes, it will not provide sufficient cover or cause for them to do so.
WILL HILLARY’S LIES TO THE PEOPLE OF OHIO damage her credibility not only in PA, but the rest of the country as well?
OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH YEEEEEEEEEAAAA!

NAFTA was good to US in 1993. It may not be the best in 2008 (Rep still supports it) – need to re-evaluate…
If someone ever fought Japan/Germany in 1945, now he made friends with Japanese in 2008, is he called “liar”?
Every policy will be re-visited period to see if it is the best interest to America now… That is the job for congress and US government…

Joris-What is NAFTA? How long did various parties take to negotiate this agreement? What does it cover? What are the obligations from all sides? Do you even have a clue?

Oh, I almost forgot, did she disagree with her husband granting “favored nation trading status” to China also? How about selling China our nuclear military secrets, did she disagree with that too?? I have never seen such a wretched case of selective amnesia as this broad has in my life. She and her husband have disgraced the Democrat party beyond belief. Truman and JFK are rolling in their graves over these two morons.

Busted baby! What liars are the Clintons! If Obama doesn’t hammer her over the head with this in Pennsylvania, I will be severely disappointed.

I do believe that Senator Clinton said that she was going to revisit the Nafta thing to see if there were any changes that needed to be made. This is not news. Many people change their minds about something 14 years after the fact. I guess you would rather have somebody in the whitehouse that listens to a person who spouts off hate and unpatriotic statements.

Basically it boils down to Hillary wants to claim her time in the White House as `experience’ and at the same time doesn’t want to be accountable for what she pseudo-involved in…
On many issues, including NAFTA, she is able to get away with the typical Democrat response, `I’m FOR-GAINST it!’ or was that `AG-FOR’ it???
Of course all Clinton issue positions depend on wind direction, and `what the definition of `IS’ is’. Thank God that Al Gore created the internet and global warming…because of him, we all have better things to do and worry about.

well, i guess she was involved in policy!

What is wrong with this? Why would she NOT attend? It was an official function. Do you really expect that she would go in and trash NAFTA? She explained many times that she had reservations that she expressed privately. That has been documented. Would you expect Laura Bush to go to a White House breakfast meeting and speak out against the war? Reality check.

Regarding the Clinton tax returns, you will see them will Hillary deems it appropriate, probably on or about April 15.
As for any additional information regarding Bill Clinton or the Clinton Library, you can probably see that on the same day we all get to see Michelle Obama’s senior thesis from Princeton.
Michelle Obama’s writing probably won’t be as vulgar as Jeremiah Wright’s sermons, but you can bet it won’t incorporate the “change we can believe in.”
Oh, yeah. Michelle won’t release her papers until November 5th…how convenient!
Sounds like a good time frame for the Clintons.

HILLARY IS A DEMOCRAT, she is for the party people, I am sure for 8 years, she supported her party..THANK YOU HILLARY FOR 8 GREAT YEARS, LETS DO IT AGAIN.

8 great years of Clintons? LOL … scandal, impeachment, sex, lies… what great years those were.

Yes, lets have the media pounce on Hillary ‘s record of experience. Oh wait, Obama has nothing for anyone to pounce on. 8 years in Illinois with nothing to show for it. It saddens me how he had a very long speech about the racial divide in America yesterday and he has been in public office for many years now and no one has been able to say exactly what he has done to unite the people of Illinois. I suppose everyone is okay with waiting to see how he will unite this country once he is the president when he has had more than an opportunity to that in his own home state of Illinois and has done nothing.

How can you tell HRC is lying? her lips are moving.
This woman is a pathological liar

A drop by meeting she attended as the First Lady has nothing to do with current views on this issue.
Of course, ABC, and I’m sure the rest of the media will harp on this and what she was doing when her husband was with Monica.
I’m more concerned frankly, with what Mr. Obama was doing for TWENTY YEARS with his radical pastor and his church. Go to that website and read the doctrine he has been influenced by all these years.
His wife won’t even salute the flag for God’s sake!
What a wonderful first lady she’ll make, and imagine the tea parties she’ll have spewing hatred of America while holding the white house china.

NAFTA-For those of you who forget NAFTA was negotiated by the first Bush Administration and then signed into law by the Clinton administration. Clinton signed a done deal at that time.

For gosh sakes, see the handwriting with both candidates. I have, and I am voting Republican this year. I campaigned for and voted for Clinton when he last ran, but this is totally different. We are fighting for the country now, economically and politically. Liars and people looking to pad their pockets are not required. McCain may not be an exciting speaker, but he has integrity.

Hillary’s fifteen minutes vs Obama’s TWENTY YEARS with Wright. No contest. Obama wins!

I GUESS AS A “FIRST TERM” FIRST LADY SHE SHOULD HAVE SHOUTED FROM THE WHITE HOUSE LAWN THAT NAFTA WAS A BAD IDEA…
No the thing is she CONSISTENLY and PURPOSELY LIED ABOUT THIS issue to the OHIO and TEXAS voters.

True that Susan this is TRUE, THE CLINTONS
WILL DO ANYTHING TO GET INTO OFFICE. Thats what I’ve been saying to people all along, they will manipulate and shape shift through out the campaign to get what they WANT.
GO OBAMA 08 “YES WE CAN”

Does this attendee have a name or did that attendee vote present that day.
You want tax records, I want the attendees name.

Heh…
Everyone here thinks they are intelligent and have something important to say. But in reality it’s only you, alone with your computer – angry, sad, and pathetic – hoping someone will listen to you.
Funny stuff.

Hillary has never said she didn’t support NAFTA at the time and as first lady she had to support whatever the president was supporting. and these two women may not be “affiliated” with either campaign but I would bet a million bucks they’re Obama supporters

Hey, Let’s wake up here. What good is the economy, health care, infrastructure or any thing else that we do on a daily basis? If we don’t have National Security and Freedom, all else is for not. Without these 2 basic’s we will go nowhere but down hill. Oh, I forgot we are already heading in that direction.

Hey if you think all Black Ministers and the community are supporting Obama, Check out The Honorable James David Manning, PhD. Google him and you will see, not everyone believes he is change.

This is really a non-issue. Both candidates have the same exact stance on NAFTA. Both agree it is good for some parts of the country and bad for others. Both plan to insist on renegotiation of NAFTA so that it will be a fair trade agreement (good for all parties involved and all parts of the country). However, Obama recently pushed for and voted for an identical free trade agreement with Peru and wants others with Asian countries. Clinton voted against the one in Peru because it is too much lke NAFTA and needs to be revamped so that it is fair and not just free trade. So it appears, actions speak louder than words. Obama’s actions are pro free trade while Clinton’s actions are pro fair trade. The media, Obama camp, and the RNC are going to be vetting for some time on these documents. let it continue but dont fall for the hype. The facts on this are clear and always have been.

BRAVO!!!! Mickey!!! You are my hero!! Its good to know that there are other people out there who remember how NAFTA began. Ditto on everything you said!

Clinton partisans will argue that you can’t judge her for changing her views since she was not in a position of power, but I guess was in a position of experience. Obama partisans (yes, I am one of them) will argue that changing positions is fine, loyalty is fine (unless it is to a devil incarnate like the spiritual leader of a major church) but lying about it is not correct. The Clinton supporters will argue that there is really nothing to see here. If that is the case, some Obama supporters will argue that shows there really is little substance. I will leave it to the lunatic fringe to argue that the parts about killing Vince Foster and such were redacted, but it does defy reason that positive things would have been removed which support that Hillary Clinton had significant experience in the White House and in national affairs that is greater than that of Laura Bush, Sheryl Crow, or Sinbad.

How important is Canada in NAFTA? I know because oil is my job. I do know that the OPEC nations have three times sent a delegation to Calgary, their oil capital, asking the Canadians to honor the OPEC call for reduced oil output. OPEC sent a delegation to Calgary as late as this past December asking Canada to JOIN OPEC. Each time Canada has refused. If Canada were to join OPEC well, you can figure that out for your gas prices.

Lies and more Clinton lies….
1100 of pages of stuff to troll through to find most of the “Experience” was rubbish like we all knew from the start.

I would like the Clinton supporters posting here just how exactly they expect her to win the election, assuming she does get the nomination. I can tell you that this individual is very offended by the kinds of stuff being posted about Mr. Obama. It is the kind of stuff we all complained about when the Republicans did it to John Kerry.
I intend tomorrow to change my registration from Democrat to Independent. I probably will not vote for McCain and while I do have some doubts about Obama I can tell you all that as it stands right now it is very much unlikely that I can vote for Mrs. Clinton.
I am disgusted with the scorched nature of her campaign and it seems that almost everone supporting her and posting here along with her pundits on TV are not interested in having the support of anyone who is willing to think for themself. The Clinton campaign in my humble opinion is fast becoming a ROVIAN operation.

I apologize for couple of typos in my earlier entry.

Hillary seems to have an informal approach to truth and integrity. It’s one thing to say, she changed her mind on Nafta, it’s an entirely different matter when you lie about it. Hillary has shown a lack of honesty that’s inherent to her character. Most of these issues are no big deal, all she had to do is to admit she was wrong and, that her position has evolved. No, this is too simple. I am wondering if her tendency to lie has to do with the fact that she was lied to, repeatedly by Bill.

Caught in another lie and Hillary just moves on saying that was in the past! I cannot vote for double speak!

I’m not mad because she blindly pursued a policy that was harmful to the American people and lost millions their jobs.
I’m not mad because she lied to us and only decided to change her mind on it once she started running for president.
I’m not mad because she framed Obama for what SHE told the Canadians behind our back, and used it to win Ohio on a lie.
I’m mad because she had the nerve to come onstage and yell “SHAME ON YOU BARACK OBAMA!” and accuse him of deceiving the voters when she is the only one who is consistently lying in this competition. Even McCain has more integrity…

This will carry a lot more weight if it had some names to go with the 2 people being quoted
Latr

Who said Ohams won the nomination…
Even Bush knew he has not yet…

Lie about what…Lie about she said she supported in 1993 but now she is against in 2008…..
The lie is Ohama says he is against but his staff told Canada he didn’t mean it at the SAME time..

Who said NAFTA was a bad deal to US in 1993, who said NAFTA was a bad deal to US in 2000, who said NAFTA was a bad deal to US in 2008….
Whether NAFTA is good or bad to US in 2008 is still under evaluation….

A true pastor is not to promote the hatred but to ask people to repent the sins in name of God…
Obama’s pastor has crossed line as a pastor….

Dee: Can you provide a single link or single line of evidence to support your statement that “Obama had the nerve to run negative ads against the people of Michigan?”
I hope your vote, and everyone’s vote is counted, but I’d like to see proof of your statement.

This woman is a liar. She voted for the war and now we are supposed to believe she will get us out of it. She worked for a year and a half on her universal health care plan and didn’t succeed and now we are supposed to believe she will do it now. She now has been shown to give a pro nafta speech it doesn’t matter how long ago when she is saying that she didn’t support it. And BTW this thread was about Senator Clinton and her mistruths not Jeremiah Wright, if you have nothing positive to say about Hillary Clinton you should just pass I think.

At least she didn’t tell Canada NAFTA was a good deal, like Obama tried to sneakily do in secret.

All these comments about “you guys in Ohio voted for Hillary because of her lies about NAFTA” is a joke. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Here in Ohio, both candidates were running anti-NAFTA campaign ads on T.V., true, but not one of Hillary’s ads said that she was against it from the beginning. So, technically, she wasn’t lying. And we voted for her because we saw through Obama. He’s racist. He’s inexperienced. He’s so far left, he’s off the charts. He makes all these empty promises about how he’s going to change the world and we’re not hypmotized and we don’t follow him blindly like his supporters. He surrounds himself with angry, hateful people (his wife, his pastor). I’m not crazy about the Clintons but in this case, and I never thought I’d say this, she is the lesser of the two evils. So, I guess you can say people in Ohio voted for Hillary because they are not so easily decieved as the states who voted for Obama. Or maybe those states just had more black people in them.

As I read the just released calender of Mrs. Clintons’s itinerary, I was amazed at the shallowness of her experiences. I personally feel the White house chef had as much experience as Mrs. Clinton did in setting policy etc. She could not even control her husband let alone leaders from around the World. I feel she was to busy scheming and planning attacks on her enimy lists to really contribute anything positive to the White House experience..

A lot of people make a pre-assumption about Liar withour facts…
A liar is only called when she or he is caught….
It is obvious Obama has been caught several times jsut in a few weeks… So he is a facturally true liar, agree?

Time4Change, Hitler did a lot of good for a few chosen ones. The pastor did not suffer any more than any other black person and SOME white, and some Latinos, and Native Americans. In fact, it looks like he has gotten along better than most. How do you know he was kicked and abused and raped? Most blacks such as Cosby and others are tired of some of the black race excusing their bad ways or lack of doing anything because of slavery or just being black. Most people in the past have had a hard times. Women have been denied the right to vote to own property. They are still being sold into slavery. Women have always had to work twice as hard to prove them self in the work place or even come near to earning what the male was earning. The Rev. Wright has done okay for himself so don’t try to make me feel sorry for him. I feel sorry for all black and whites(everyone) who have worked their bones to the ground and still can’t get ahead. Who have tried to be honest and hard workers and love their Country and yet nothing turns out right. I don’t feel sorry for any one who rants and spews hate out for this Country and the people. Don’t try to cover up the minister’s wrong by making him out to be someone who has been beaten, etc. As I said, he is much better off and has been much better off than the common person. He has made good money spewing his hate. I don’t care to read Obama’s books. I probably couldn’t believe they were his words. I heard his speeches but I had already heard his speeches from the true author of those speeches.

no offense to the “nafta ladies”…but perhaps they are the ones Hillary to whom she was being phony. I bet they would have bought the Brooklyn Bridge from Hillary that day. Like those who backed Pete Rose who placed bets on his own team and others (for and against) in baseball….there are fans that still love this jerk and think he should be in the hall of fame. Star struck. Not a good thing.

DCVoter,
OMG Obama thought Hillary was right, imagine that…lol. Of course he doesn’t have an original thought of his own.

I take it that David Gergen was lieing when he recalled HRC being unhappy about NAFTA?
Keep fighting the fight for Obama.
It looks like everytime Obama goofs up, the media go the extra mile to try and find something wrong with Hillary.
Keep it up and you will be starring in the next SNL.

I am a Canadian…and we would love to open NAFTA…you are getting our oil and energy prices at a grossly reduced price…and I would like to hear from Clinton as to which safety and trade practices that Canada has that aren’t superior to Americans. We know for a gact that is not true…

Mara,
I have tried to post a link, but my post keeps getting deleted. Search: Obama Iowa Campaign Ads about detroit automakers in Jan 08, and you will find
it.

Another Clinton lie in a long line of lies. Are the Ohio pro-Hillary camp feeling cheated? Some blue collar workers (Ohio and Pennsylvania) are so afraid of voting for a man with African heritage, they will take the gun and blow their own brains out rather than vote for Obama.

So, let me get this straight:
Hillary was FOR NAFTA before she was AGAINST NAFTA.
She suffers from “JohnKerryitis.”

Mr. Gergen said that privately, Hillary did not support NAFTA, but is that relevant? Does it matter what she thought? It is what she did and said publically is how we must judge her. As she always SAYS “actions speak louder than words.” And in this case, she didn’t even have words.

Obama & Hillary are the SAME old thing, just different race &/or gender. They are NO different from one another. I’m from IL, Obama is a crooked Chicago-machine politician and that’s a fact. They’re the worst of and what’s wrong with post-modern American politics: dishonesty prevails and partisanship is the plan of the day.

People following this election should read Ibsen’s play Enemy of the People, about how a guy trying to do some good for his community becomes the subject of a mass hysteria campaign orchestrated by those forces who want to prevent any good at all from taking place. Now, if you research Hillary Clinton’s career, it’s pretty clear she’s never been part of trickle down economics, but instead has worked on family and children’s initiatives all her life. Quite frankly, this country needs her more than she needs us, and this window of opportunity may not open again for a long, long time. For more on the real-life Enemy of People premise as it’s playing out in the Democratic primaries, I’ve posted an article at thecityedition.com. (Hint: Karl Rove figures prominently into the equation.) Click on my screen name for a direct link.

For all the questions on ethics raised by the author of this blog, there are some troubling issues with this blog.
I had questioned why JT does not acknowledge the people, who leave some interesting pieces of information in their comments which become the topics of his blog later. Additionally, I also noticed that a comment was deleted within an hour. The info in the comment became the topic of a blog next day.
My comment that questioned the professional ethics was deleted in 10 minutes.
I am sure this also will be deleted quickly.
Practice what you preach – I guess not only politicians but reporters too are exempt from this dictate.

HILLARY’S EXPERIENCE:
First, she became a lawyer. During Hillary Rodham Clinton’s 12 years as first lady of Arkansas, she continued to pursue children and family issues. She chaired the Arkansas Education Standards Committee to improve the testing standards of new teachers, founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, and introduced Arkansas Home Instruction for Preschool Youth, a program that trained parents of preschool children in preparedness and literacy. The first lady also served on the Arkansas Children’s Hospital Legal Services board, Children’s Defense Fund board, while continuing to work for the Rose Law Firm. She was named one of the 100 most influential attorneys in America by the National Law Journal in 1988 and 1991. She was also named Arkansas Woman of the Year in 1983 and Arkansas Mother of the Year in 1984. During her eight years as First Lady, Hillary Rodham Clinton initiated the Children’s Health Insurance Program in 1997, increased research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma to the National Institute of Health, as well as assisted in determining the cause of a mysterious illness affecting veterans of the Gulf War. She also initiated and guided the Adoption and Safe Families Act of 1997. She has received many prestigious awards, including the Secretary of Defense Medal for Outstanding Public Service, the President’s Award of the League of United Latin American Citizens, Role Model of the Year, by the United Steel Workers of America; the Martin Luther King Jr. Award from the Progressive National Baptist Convention, and the National Association of Elementary School Principals Distinguished Service Award. Rodham Clinton also has authored best-selling books, including her autobiography, Living History and It Takes a Village: And Other Lessons Children Teach Us, which won her the 1997 Grammy Award for Best Spoken Word Album for the recorded version. Since becoming a senator for New York State, Hillary has worked to strengthen New York’s economy and homeland security, while supporting a return to fiscal responsibility. She worked to bring economic relief to victims of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The senator introduced legislation to provide funding for threat-based homeland security to ensure adequate resources for first responders, and such high-target communities as New York City. She has served on various senatorial committees, including the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee; Environment and Public Works Committee; Special Committee on Aging; and in 2004 was the only senator on the Transformation Advisory Group to the Joint Forces Command. She has visited troops in Iraq, Afghanistan and other locations, to learn about the challenges American combat forces face. She also has worked for prescription-drug safety for children, to lower the cost of prescription drugs, and to prevent contamination of the American food supply by bioterrorism. She co-sponsored legislation to extend tax credits in regions that contain designated Renewal Communities, as well as introduced legislation to increase access to broadband technology in rural areas. In November 2004, she announced she would seek a second term in the Senate. At that time, she was considered by some to be a potential candidate for the presidency in 2008. THROUGH HER NUMEROUS ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THE WORLD OF POLITICS AND PUBLIC SERVICE, HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON HAS MADE AN INDELIBLE MARK ON AMERICAN SOCIETY AND ON PROGRESSIVISM.

She flip flops like a fish depending on who has the worm but the only problem with that is what she really wants to hook is US, the American public….Just say NO to 4 more years of Clinton Abuse!

proudamerican2008:
Excellent job posting some highlights of Hillary Clinton’s experience and accomplishments. I would also note that even prior to becoming a lawyer she was always very active in civil rights and protection of children.
Thanks for your post. Everyone should read it!

I’m sorry, but the “Experience” cited for Mrs. Clinton may make her look experienced compared to Obama, (3 yrs. as a US Senator of which he has spent 3 yrs. campaigning for President), but get real. Serving on various boards and being given awards does not equate to practical experience. (And, no she can’t claim her husband’s experience as her own either, sorry)

All you Hillary revisionists and Obama haters are becoming more conspicuous hour by hour. Your passion for a woman with faux experience is insulting to men and women across the country who have spent time leading, managing and handling risks that Hillary can only simulate in speeches.
I’m an independent voter who wants an honest leader as our President and she is not qualified on this count and many others.

J. Wright, (ok Donna, I found it)
Interesting. Since you QUOTED that remark, I am sure you can point us all to the exact citation so we can all look it up.
Regarding your “favorites” I suggest that you look in the senate records instead of in the Hillary website. You will find that those good amendments were tied to generally extremely poorly written bills, or in some cases were good bills weighted down by dozens of extremely bad last-minutes “earmarks”.

Obama favoured 50 state strategy and criticized Clinton for not supporting it. 50 state strategy has failed. Obama seems to have some Math problem or did FLIP-FLOP on his decision. He will get decision from 48 states as his campaign already derail the Do-Over in Florida and in Michigan it seems that it is almost off the table. Again, it is politics of Mr. Obama’s convinience.

Dear Friends,
why are we engaging in this type of conversation. If we are going to tear the only 3 canidates left who are running for president. Who will we have. those of you who are engaging in this type of talk-must be living pretty good, no concerns for healthcare,student loans, the economy, or all the good people dying is this war. I enjoy getting on Political Punch
What shall we do? Obama is no good anymore-and I’ll bet some of you voted for him) and you think Hillary has a nerve running for president-and Mccain is just an old war hawk-and plus he’s old. Why- are we doing this? We have this wonderful technology-the blog-we are blessed to be living in this country-able to go and vote. and all we can do is write this stuff? Please, lets try and pick up the tone of this conversation-we are intelligent people-at least we know a little about typing-what don’t we spend some of this time trying to discuss what could be right about the only canidates we have (Now I know some are mad because Paul, huckabee and other are not running anymore) so Obama, Hillary and Mccain are all we have left-Lets try to discuss some of the issues facing us today-we are not perfect people-and nor are the 3 we have running for president. Now, I happen to be a Hillary supporter-you are not going to change my mind about Hillary-by bringing up all the old stuff. I like what Hillary has said she will do for healthcare, student loans-(I have one child in college class of 2010 and one who will start college in 2010) I like where Hillary stands on the issues of the economy-what she will do about the war going forward. i believe she will do what she is saying she will do about ending the war. We all need to check ourselves-If you had the desire to serve this country-the way these people have decided to-could you pass the test-you are putting on them?
As I said I am a Hillary supporter,two of the reasons why are-I do not think obama is ready-he said it once himself-
One day I hope before I die maybe he will be-his political career is still young-Mccain scares me with the notion of we could be in this war another 50-100 years. (a war he will not be around to finish) As I have said before, If I need surgery-I want the surgeon with the best mind-ability to know where to cut-and the courage to cut. I do not need them to be perfect Human Beings-just a good command of the profession they have chosen. Now for me, Hillary is the full package-Se runs circles around Mccain and Obama on the issues-we need a president who is able to think on their feet-and able to voice the what they will do about the issues that face us today-plainly. for me the complete person-of the three left is Hillary. Lets take advantage of this most great mean of communicating to talk about what is right about the 3 left, instead of tearing them down, which will not help any of us.
The World is holding its breath hoping we get if right this time-(as spoken 1st by HRC.
Please no more rubbish, just the issues.

John from Victoria, Canada: “Please cancel NAFTA, I know a lot of people in Canada wish you would. You would no longer have free unrestricted access to our water/oil/resources. We could make our Oil cheaper for the Canadian people and charge what ever we wanted to anyone else (NAFTA does not allow that). ”
John, do you really think that any Canadian oil company would sell it’s oil “cheaper” to Canadians? Dream on, kid. The US has no access to Canadian resources that any other country doesn’t have. We pay our “good friends” in Canada for oil the same price we pay the Arabs. You don’t give us even a penny break on price. The US does not import Canadian water. Canada has been no friend to the US in recent years. All it has been good for recently is importing America hating Muslims and opposing the US at every turn. If we had any brains we’d turn Canada into a US territory whether you liked it or not. You couldn’t stop it since you have always depended on the US for military protection thereby freeing up your tax money for your own benefit. As for NAFTA, it has been an immense benefit to Canada and Mexico. The US has done nothing but suffer. For Canada and, especially, Mexico it has been a dream come true. Canadians resent the US because you wouldn’t have any economy whatsoever without the US and that always breeds resentment. Any fool can look at the trade numbers, John. Try it.

I recall that Mrs. Clinton’s husband was impeached by the United States House of Representatives on two charges, PERJURY and OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.-LYING
It wasn’t the intern, it was the LYING, not just to the Authorities, but to the American people, right into the camera lens with finger wagging emphasis.
Does any thinking person yet believe that the Clinton leopard has changed it spots?
LYING…also condemned in Church, but the Clintons were too busy in borrowed Church pulpits crucifying Obama by proxy to read the fine print about “bearing false witness”

So let’s say she DID support NAFTA in the beginning. Why in the world would anyone be upset that she doesn’t anymore. It’s not flip-flopping, it’s called adapting your beliefs to the way things are playing out.
Clearly, NAFTA hasn’t played out as expected and there are problems with it. Is it wrong for her to want to fix those problems? NO! So really, I could care less what her stance was in the beginning, what REALLY matters is her stance now and what she’s going to do in the future to help the American people!

Hey folks, remember, Clinton cant win at this point without wining by at least a 60% margin in all the remaining races. She has already lost.

Some of you are ridiculous, and also have some spelling issues to say the least. She was condemned for not being supportive enough of NAFTA, and now she’s being targeted as if it was HER policy. I have listened to the woman talk, and she has never once taken credit for something her husband did as President. She has only talked about her programs feeding a million hungry children, her work getting health care for women and children, and her relationship with foreign diplomats. She isn’t picking and choosing work her husband did and using that in her campaign. She is talking about what she’s DONE. Not a speech she gave about it.
Nafta at the time was thought to be a good program, and it benefited many people in several states. It was her husband’s policy. GET OVER IT.

Oops, Geneva.
Who would have thunk it?

You mean Hillary Clinton is a PHONY who will DO or SAY anything to get elected? … Are you sure. Just because there are 100 examples of this does not mean it is true.

Jay……….
Lets stick to the story….Hillary LIED!!!! Obama did not make the comments…his pastor did..If we are guilty by association then you are guilty of anti-women’s lib and you support men who do monica lewinskys in the oval office while the wife is down the hall!!! sick!

In his lust for personal wealth
has Barack Obama
sold his moral compass?

Here are some of the headlines I can concoct to mark Obama’s mesmerizingly stupid speech
Obama lectures White America on Original Sin
Hate-Speech is Fine, as Long as You’re Really Angry
Obama – White Americans Hate like Blacks, so We’re Even.
Obama, Interprets America’s History, Tells Whites to Lay-off
Blacks to White America – “On Sunday we Hate You. Live with It.”
Obama, Black-America’s New Sharpton, Makes White America Understand
Obama Slams Clinton, Ferraro, McCain, White Guilt Innuendo
Obama says Distorted View of America Common To Blacks, no Apologies.
Obama Admits to Lying About Hearing Inflammatory Words, but Says “So What?!”
Obama Outraged by Pastor’s Remark, But Then Says They Are “ok.”
Obama Speaks, Media Listen, Voters say A-men
Former Slaves, Free To Hate
Obama and King; Two Ways to Sit-In
Obama Calls Wright a Distraction and Accuses Americans of Treating Race as Spectacle
Obama a spectacle of Logic. America Generally Wrong, Wright Generally Right
Obama Onslaught on Reason, When Will it Stop
Obama’s Impersonation of Lincoln, a Tasteless Parody

In news today, the Obama camp is asking for the release of Hillary’s medical records, dental records, social security #, driver license records, urine samples, hair follicles, fingernail clippings, DNA, old clothes, bank account and credit cards records, and all the names of her pets since she was born.
They will do anything in ObamaLand to distract the people from all of Obama’s lies.

The Obama express is over.

Thanks Ed, I try hard, but the Obama folks don’t like it, and have no visible sense of humor except when they try to make fun of Hillary and they are so lame when they attempt it. But make a joke about their deity and all holy hell breaks loose.
Of course from what I have seen of Obama, he left his sense of humor in the Senate, with his “Your likable enough Hillary joke..lol

Also, this Pastor Wright thing is just not a big deal. An angry black man that grew up in the 50s and 60s? Wow, I am shocked.
The people making this a big deal are engaging in the worst kind of racism. What, do you think that Obama has some sort of secret agenda to lead a black revolution and kill whitey? So, no one can run that ever knew someone that felt as though they had been prejudiced and spoke out against it? People are really grasping at straws in an effort to besmirch Obama. I’m not even a big fan, and will probably vote for Nader. But, seriously…how is this a big deal? Can someone explain it to me?

It is a huge deal. Obama’s entire candidacy is based on hope, peace, love and unity, and he is mentored for 20 years by a bigot, a racist, and Anti-White and Anti-American preacher, who was his spiritual adviser. And only when he is caught in a web of lies and deceit does he try and distance himself from his friend and mentor.
Forget about any secret agenda, I want to know, how does Obama really feel about the white race? Read his books, he considers himself black and shuns his white heritage. I want a president who I know is working for all people, not the people of his own race.
I was born and raised in Chicago, very near Mr. Obama’s district. Since he was elected to the State Senate, he has done nothing for the people of Illinois, The City of Chicago, so what makes you think he will do anything for the USA & the entire world. He is a self-serving politician, only in this for power and his own political agenda.

Hillary’s schedules are not the real issue! It is getting the Republican’s out of power that is the most important thing right now. Obama no longer has a chance. The Republicans will scare everyone with Obama’s pastor’s words and videos. There is no way Obama can win the general election now. We need a revote in both Florida and Michigan in order for any chance for change from the Republican agenda. Obama may be putting his own interests above the countries if he opposes this effort.

The American people are getting exactly what they voted for, lots of boldfaced LIARS! Ron and Dennis were the only honest candidates running this time and both were soundly rejected by the voters. Don’t pay any attention to anything the rest of them say and you’ll never be disappointed. For example, if this so called “War on Terror” were really true, our borders would be secure. If NAFTA had really been a good thing, our jobs would still be located in America. Our country is now facing so many serious problems and this is what we vote for? These self promoting liars and con artists are the best we can do? This is exactly how we ended up looking for nonexistent WMD’s with Bush. This is why our dollar is being destroyed and our rights under the constitution trashed. This is why we now openly torture people. This is why our wars never seem to end and our government must borrow money from our enemy’s to fund our stupid foreign policy blunders. It’s why our jobs have been shipped overseas with dumb trade policy deals like Clinton’s NAFTA. Electing liars who promise “smaller government” is exactly why were nearing 10 trillion in debt. It’s why the rest of the world is now shunning the dollar and laughs about the “Stupid Americans”. What a sad joke this country is turning into and most Americans are too blind to see it. Perhaps a repeat of the great depression will help them to wake up. Perhaps when the dollar is completely worthless? Just what will it take? Unless a good Independent runs, I’ll just sit this one out and prepare my family for the economic nightmare that’s now facing our leaderless country.

The Democrat candidates, one of them are a liar, and the other is a racist, you can decide which one is which. BTW, if you believe for a minute that the whole Rev. Wright thing was exposed by anyone other than the Clinton campaign, you are being naive

HILLARY, MAKE YOUR HATERS YOUR MOTIVATORS!
GO HILLARY!!! HILLARY 08!!!

Yeah that meeting that took place 15 years ago is really important / relevant.

Go go Obama….They can not stop you now….What we need is unity,love and peace and better economy we normal people are the loser..they dont know our problems when they are in the white house….we love and support u…..

This is race to nominate what might be the next President of the USA not a religious convention on morality. But, WE MUST JUDGE the candidates on the basis of what they say they stand for and if it is discovered that what they say is all lies it matters! We need to inject integrity back into the political process and not allow any candidate to get away with lying over and over and over again. TIME TO GO HILLARY! YES WE CAN!

I find it interesting that some people feel this story is not relevant. There are statements such as ‘all politicians lie,’ which seem to dismiss the doubletalk on this issue. Why should we accept that? It has been said before, but if Hillary wants to claim her First Lady years as experience, she needs to own up to all that happened, both positive and negative. Otherwise, she should have just left it alone. Obama is doing that; owning up to the negatives like Rezko and Wright. I can not trust someone who refuses to apologize for past behaviors or admit mistakes. That is what we have in George W. Bush.
This is a shining example of Hillary saying what others want to hear, saying something she does not believe in just to achieve a political goal. It reminds me this behavior did not just start during her run for the White House, it is a pattern of behavior she has engaged in for quite some time. Frankly, it is the type of behavior that turned me off politics since her husband’s election.
I have identified myself as a Democrat since I was aware of the concept of President of the United States (Jimmy Carter era); campainged for Mondale/Ferraro in my grade school. But, the negativity and lies I have witnessed in my adult years have soured my thoughts of what democracy means. It wasn’t until I heard the words of Barack Obama and realized a candidate who took no money from lobbyists could ever have a shot at becoming President that I have become excited about democracy again. Stories about how a candidate like Hillary Clinton
says things they don’t mean remind me of my apathetic voting days that I hope will not return.

From reading all these comments,just lets me know, We the PEOPLE have a lot of racism, sexism and hatred in our hearts. The Media is SUCCESSFUL with what it is trying to do. Keep us separated!! WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
I am an Obama supporter, but I do like some of the values the Clinton’s posed as well. However, i have many of friends, that has horrible views on life or people, yet, they are still my friends. If we hold him accountably guilty by association, than we are ALL GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION.
Honestly, I would be fine with Obama or Clinton in office, Although, I am a strong Obama supporter. I am just looking at the facts: SUPERDELEGATES will not go against the will of the people and we need to take a look at who is ahead in the delegate count. Obama, even if Hillary wins, she will not win a large enough margin to gain delegates, even if Fl & MI was included. It is time for us to wake up and come together and start working on building a better world for us, and our children. Look at what is going on around us. The Republicans are loving this battle.
This yeas seems to be the end of the Democratic Party!!!

“I must tell you Hillary Clinton was extremely unenthusiastic about NAFTA. And I think that’s putting it mildly. I’m not sure she objected to all the provisions of it but she just didn’t see why her husband and that White House had to go and do that fight. She was very unhappy about it and wanted to move on to health care.”
It would seem that Hillary was more concerned that her pet project of universal healthcare was taking a backseat to NAFTA than she was concerned about whether NAFTA was good or bad policy.
So, where does that leave us?
-If, at that time, she really didn’t believe NAFTA was good policy, she was saying what she believed to be politically expedient THEN.
-If, at that time, she believed NAFTA to be good policy, she is saying what she believes to be politically expedient NOW.
I believe this is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what we can expect from her as a leader. More spin, obfuscation, and distortion – the same as we’ve had for 8+ years. It is time for change.

This isn’t news. America knew Hillary was lying when she said she opposed NAFTA.
Hillary is a LIAR folks get used to it.

Lets talk VP …PLEEEAAASSSEE.
I really like Kathleen Sebelius as VP to Obama. She is a woman of integrity, honest and she is a woman who stands on her own tru experience. As a woman, I believe in strong independent women who do not need to pretend they have experince and honesty, they just have it. She would make an excellent VP for Obama as she has all the qualities needed.

Say Hello to President OBAMA everybody.

A SURE WAY TO DETERMINE IF HILLARY IS LYING: SEE IF HER LIPS ARE MOVING, IF THEY ARE, SHE’S LYING.

Yes, it’s crystal clear that Senator Clinton lied when she said she never supported NAFTA. Why do you think she hasn’t released tax returns and other records showing contributions from lobbyists? What could the reason be that she won’t expose this information until after the PA primary? On the other hand, Obama, openly and honestly fesses up to frailties and has open books. Come on Senator Clinton for once be transparent and quit hiding.

I deeply resent my post being removed. With all the diatribes here. All the obvious “dumbed down” campaign posts.

Think about it this way: If Hillary can persuade others to vote for NAFTA, just think how she could do in the White House getting health insurance, the economy going again and building up the reserve again, ( like her husband did, remember )

It is an indictment of main stream journalism, including news organizations such as ABC, that after they made such an extraordinary effort to smear Barrack with a story from a dubious source which was subsequently discredited only after the Ohio primary, they do not bother to even report that the Hilary campaign has indeed had meetings with the Canadian government. It is also very dishonest of the Hilary campaign and Hilary herself to have taken advantage of this erroneous story, when they knew it was false and very hypocritical considering that Hilary was never critical of NAFTA till it became a campaign issue. And now that she has suddenly “always been critical” of NAFTA” she really hasn’t said what specifically she doesn’t like about it.

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