By Jennifer Parker

Mar 4, 2008 10:42pm

Controversial Clinton Guest: ‘Osama for Obama’

ABC News’ Kate Snow and Eloise Harper report: A controversial party guest was spotted at Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s election night party in Columbus, Ohio Tuesday.

He was hard to miss.  He was the one wearing the "Osama for Obama" t-shirt.

Columbus resident Todd Elbaum told ABC News his friend makes the t-shirts.

Elbaum did not hold back on his views of Obama when he was interviewed by ABC within full view of a Clinton staffer. 

"The truth is he was born a Muslim, his father was a Muslim, his mother married a Muslim after divorcing his father.  His grandfather was a Muslim.  It doesn’t matter.  But what does matter is when Obama said he was never a Muslim.  He was a Muslim.  He was born a Muslim.  He was a Muslim for six years of his life," Elbaum said. 

Watch the VIDEO HERE.

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., has repeatedly said that he has never been a Muslim and is a practicing Christian.

"I’ve been to the same church the same Christian church for almost 20 years," Obama has said. "I was sworn in with my hand on the family Bible. Whenever I’m in the United States Senate, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America."

On CBS’ "60 Minutes" Sunday night, Clinton, D-N.Y., was asked about rumors that Obama is a Muslim and said she did not believe the rumors. 

"No! No! Why would I? There’s nothing to base that on. As far as I know," she said.  Some have suggested that the use of the phrase "as far as I know" suggested she had doubts.

But yesterday Clinton was more emphatic in saying she did not believe the rumors. She said she, too, has dealt with vicious rumors and expressed empathy toward her rival.

"It’s disturbing to turn around and see this all the time… I hope people get beyond it," she said.
 

User Comments

And there’s the lowbrow Clinton mentality in a nutshell.
Karl Rove would be very proud of her and her minions.

Posted by: Mark | March 4, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

Enough is enough! Todd Elbaum is a misinformed idiot of the lowest degree. And that Clinton staffer should be ashamed.

Posted by: Jane | March 4, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

On behalf of the Clinton campaign I reject and denounce this fellow, who is obviously acting independently and distastefully, and has no relationhship with the campaign.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 4, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

Todd Elbaum thinks that people are ‘born’ into Muslim….which is, a very Muslim way of thinking, but not at all an American way of thinking.
Todd, in America, most people believe that a person can choose their own religion.
Barack is accurate in saying he was never a Muslim. Now, you take your definition from Muslim tradition, so in your Muslim way of thinking, you can make an argument otherwise.
But in a Judeo-Christian way of thinking, he is correct…he never, upon age of majority subscribed to the Muslim faith…hence he has never been a Muslim.
Do you understand now, my friend?

Posted by: rdd1 | March 4, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

In a grand show of bi-partisanship, Sen Clinton campaigns for Sen McCain… how nice of her. Next week, the Clinton camp will be trading notes with the McCain team to best optimise a dual front on their mutual adversary.

Posted by: smartprimate | March 4, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

This young man should be asked to turn his shirt inside out. It’s inappropriate.

Posted by: s.b. | March 4, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

While I understand people are going to have misperceptions, it is sad. I take Obama at his word on this issue unless proven otherwise (which I doubt).
This country was founded on the premise of freedom from persecution based on religion. I hope that voter gets educated on the issue and finds peace.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 4, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

If it looks like a duck, flies like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck.

Posted by: Dave | March 4, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

Rejoice Clinton supporters: all you’ve done tonight is make it much harder for the democrats to finally win back the white house in Nov. The only way your candidate can take the nomination at this point is to tear the party in 2 and leading us to defeat in Nov. Why OH and TX voter couldn’t this is beyond me.
Oh, as far as this Elbaum clown: are you sure it wasn’t Karl Rove in disguise?
It’s just too sad to me that Hillary Clinton, as of tonight, is not just going to lose, but now has to take the party down with her. She is not going to be president; the question is whether she’ll let it be Barack Obama or continue on and let it be John McCain.

Posted by: dem in chicago | March 4, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

Once again the old-school Clinton campaign style takes over….Hillary doesn’t want change and she can’t lead change because she is incapable of changing herself. This shows the kind of people she attracts. Shame on you Hillary – get out now before this gets out of hand!

Posted by: ktreeder | March 4, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

Ohio is not known as a bastion of intellect, at least in the rural areas; I am not surprised a stupid rumour like this would find traction outside of the educated areas.

Posted by: Samir | March 4, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

Hillary’s Kitchen Sink worked its magic of deception – fear & rumor rules OH and TX afterall.

Posted by: hubbs | March 4, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

dem in charge: you guys are sore losers.

Posted by: tony | March 4, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

Hillary’s camp is constantly spouting racist and Islamaphobic rhetoric against Obama and any family history of practicing Islam. It’s sick. Plain and simple, it’s sick.

Posted by: Micah | March 4, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm

Thank you Ohio. Thank you Texas. You know, when I read over “user comment” sections like this one, I move more and more into the Hillary camp and further away from ever even considering Obama any longer. Obamamites, read over your comments, try to think clearly, and say something productive. I’ve never read so much whining and Hillary bashing in my life — not even from the right. If the GOP wins the nomination we are all responsible.

Posted by: ck canon | March 4, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

Excellent night.. excellent speech… very inspiring!
She rocks!

Posted by: DCVoter | March 4, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

It’s so fascinating the Limbaugh has been on the airwaves urging Republicans to vote for Hillary to prolong this tearing each other’s camp apart. At the end of it will we even be able to come together?
No matter who you support, remember your candidate won’t win the white house with other bringing the other candidate’s supporters on board.
We are fortunate to have two smart qualified candidates so quit spewing the hateful remarks and move forward

Posted by: vmcgreen | March 4, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

Obama suporter, show me a little polite and brain.
can you name one achievement of Obama as a senator?
Hillary 08!

Posted by: joe | March 4, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

So “Dem in Chicago” – You don’t want the rest of america have its say????
Just because one of your guy is running, doesn’t mean others don’t get to say their word.
What kind of democracy is that?
May be the Obama supporters should learn something from GOP – they let the guy who didn’t even had a slight chance to win, stay in the race until the real deal……
Don’t you even imagine that you can shut the rest of america that disagrees with you….

Posted by: True Dem | March 4, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

Where can I get myself one of those tee-shirts? Hats off to Todd.
As for Obama’s remarks regurding the pledge of allegiance, if he does truely does believe in the pledge, why will he not put his hand over his heart during it? The American President should be a true patriot and believe in American culture, and not try to conform to others.

Posted by: Kate | March 4, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

If either of these two become president in November, this country will lose the true values it was founded upon. This country was founded by religous people. This is a country under GOD. We are a republic; we are not a socialistic country. We have the right to competition, and competition will create the best prices to the American people. It seems many (and I am not by any means saying all, but supports who seem to just jump on the band wagon without being truely informed) democrats do not seem to understand that logically, if government is to implement programs such as national health care, taxes must increase. The plans Obama and Clinton hold will likely increase taxes by over $500 billion per year. In America, we have the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It is each citizens responsibility to take care of himself from there.

Posted by: Daniel | March 4, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

A BIG CLINTON (ABC) NETWORK. I am sure many of you wear this T-shirt in the newsroom.

Posted by: Jim | March 4, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

It was nice to see all the Republicans vote for Hilliary in the primary today. I can’t believe these jerks call themselves Democrats. They are nothing but pro war Republicans. It’s sickening. But between McCain, Hilliary or Obama, have no worry, a Democrat is guaranteed in the White House now. And they say people are Anti-War, whatever. Just wait for the draft, you better start hiding your children NOW!!!

Posted by: cba | March 4, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

“This is the prime example of ignorance apparent in the Hilary Supporter. They are obviously uneducated rural idiots who can pick their nose but won’t pick up a newspaper or go beyond Hee Haw to get their facts straight.” Molly 11:52 pm
Molly, you and those like you are so arrogant. Maybe the people voted for Hillary because she has a better health care plan or they are not ready for the change Obama blathers on about. Molly, it is because of you and those like you that dems are turning on each other and the GOP might win. Please grow up, keep your idiotic thoughts to yourself.
College Graduate, Washington state, thank you very much.

Posted by: Ck canon | March 5, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

Because in America you can’t be president if you aren’t a Christian; it’s in the Constitution.

Posted by: Aaron | March 5, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

There is a larger question looming on the horizon and nobody is making a squeek about it!! A war in latin/south America……Do any of the cantidates have any ideas of possible paths for our country???? A little insight to their ability to lead the country could be shown right about NOW………

Posted by: brettski | March 5, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

Clinton Yo Mama: ‘Osama for Obama’

Clinton Controversial Guest ‘Osama for Obama’ from Political Radar reports that Clinton had a decidedly partisan guest at her Ohio victory party – one dressed in an ‘Osama for Obama’ T-shirt. Columbus resident Todd Elbaum told ABC News his friend

Posted by: PAXALLES | March 5, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

Todd definitely needs to realize that even if Obama was “born a Muslim,” that he is not a “Muslim” unless he practices the religion and believes the faith. Obama is whatever religion he believes the most in.
PLUS why all this religious hatred? IF Obama WERE Muslim, what should that matter? He is an American citizen first and foremost before any religion and I believe that he truly will do whatever he can for the American people. What does it matter what religion, race, or gender a person is? This does not determine their competence as the President of the United States.

Posted by: Amy | March 5, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

The point of all this should be what does it matter if he were or if he is a Muslim. Did Mitt Romney run from his religion? Did John Kennedy run from his religion? No, they did not. Religion is personal. Many in this country have that faith, so what is anyone trying to say here? Obama should be proud of his family and proud of his name. He may be of the Christian faith now, so what? I worked many years with a lady from Turkey who had married a US serviceman. She was a Muslim, and the finest person you could ever meet. Did she wear her religion on her sleeve? No. And no one cared what her religion was. It’s personal, and the Constitution guarantees freedom of religion.
Right now we are fighting two wars in the Middle East full of Muslims. Are all of the people in those countries evil? No. Osama Bin Laden planned the attack on America. He is the evil one. Saddam Hussein gassed and murdered thousands of his people. Is he evil? Yes. And there are many others who want to do us harm, and they supposedly do it in the name of their religion, and that is evil. We had no business going to war with Iraq with flawed intelligence given about weapons of mass destruction. All of the people in the Middle East are not evil, and their religion in and of itself is not evil. Evil people do evil things.
Instead of trying to defend his name and its linkage with Muslims, Obama should embrace his name and his heritage, and ignore the isolated hate mongers who always go for the jugular when they can’t debate the issues. Instead of the hatred epithets against Hillary Clinton based on gender, sexism, or ignorance, they should strive to debate on real issues. Don’t blame the hatred of Muslims or Muslim names on Hillary Clinton, she has been through enough of the same kind of garbage all because some do not really know how to debate the issues.

Posted by: georgia | March 5, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

I saw the same thing happen at my polling spot,in fact the ladies there said they had ,had 100′s of Republicans voteing as democrats !!!It’s all a set up election ,and Obamas people should have polls investigated ,mainly the small rural polls.People who voted asked about the ‘convention’ after 7:15 and asked what they needed to do,they were told as I was ,to just come back and sign in and then leave !!People were not told that at these ‘conventions’ they would be chooseing delegates for thier candidate !!Totaly unexceptable as that we were misled into thinking the elections were finished as soon as we left the second time ,so much to how well the ‘Texas two step’ voteing system worked out !!It’s a failure .

Posted by: Joyce In Texas | March 5, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

A report that came out last year. Said he was in a catholic school in Indonesian. His faith listed was Muslim. That a friend he went to the other school with, stated he use to study Muslim with Barry.
That was in the news some where.

Posted by: seah | March 5, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

shame on clinton campaign to allow that kind of smear and shame on media who don’t care to tear apart that kind of sear.

Posted by: hubbs | March 5, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

I know a way we could ALL vent what ever issue we have with any of the candidates!! Allow a voter to cast a negative vote…..Give the voter a right to cast a vote AGAINST a candidate!!!….Some voters will vote FOR someone and some voters will vote “anybody but this person” and cast a negative vote. Tally up the “for” and “Against” votes and the candidate with most net votes wins!!!!! Brett

Posted by: brettski | March 5, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

ARGH!!! Politics!!!
And Republicans who vote as Democrats… Have you no shame? Why not just allow the election to be fair? Why must there be such stupid disparities between Democrats and Republicans. DO NOT ABUSE YOUR RIGHT TO VOTE!
People worked hard and died so that Americans could vote – and now of either gender or any race. And you would show such disrespect to these people by rigging the voting? Shame on you.
This goes for any Democrats who may ever vote as another party for the same reason as the Republicans did above…We are all Americans. Why be so cruel to your fellow Americans and not give people a chance to have the candidate that they really want win fair and square.
If Hilary were to win without these Republicans rigging it so that “she won’t win nationally,” that would be fine. Otherwise, I think it is wrong and that people should petition for a recount in states where people have admitted to do this crime.

Posted by: Amy | March 5, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

I saw the video in which Obama’s wife was saying “You know……they used his name……….” and the crowd goes “boooooooooo”
Really……so now no one should use your husband’s name?????
I clearly understand that Obama is not a muslim.
But still its his name right?
If he hates it so much…….why can’t he just remove it officially????
If you want to keep it for your heritage then get ready for shots like these……….
You can’t have it both ways…..

Posted by: True Dem | March 5, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

You know its a shame that Obama voters act more and more like carl Rove. This is a race for the President of the United states . If you think John MCcain is going to be sweet to him you will find out its going to get a lot worse.

Posted by: Bishop | March 5, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

Localjoe,
Yes, this is not fair about Catholics in many Muslim countries, but this is NOT the Middle East. It is the USA and is *supposed* to have freedom of religion.
If ANY religion is mistreated in the U.S., this should be considered unlawful.

Posted by: Amy | March 5, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Obama cannot beat McCain. McCain will get a very appealing VP and will beat Obama on all the issues. NO REPUBLICAN will vote for Obama. Then they are not Republicans. Rush wants you to vote Obama which is why he plays that game of supporting Hillary. GOP wants Obama, he has no experience and that will be apparent in any debate. Independents will clamor to the GOP. Most do not want to give a drivers license to an illegal alien which Obama will.

Posted by: Janet | March 5, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Janet,
I’m not arguing over who wants Obama to run against McCain, how well he’ll do,etc.
I think it is wrong that any party votes in the primaries to get the candidate they think will likely lose the final Presidential election to win the primary. Rigging the election in any way is wrong. Vote for who you believe will be the best president.
Isn’t that the point of voting?

Posted by: Amy | March 5, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

One thought people may not be having is realizing that many of Obama’s supporters are Indies and disgruntled Reps. If Clinton gets the nom, those voters may cross back to McCain or vote for McCain as anti-Clinton votes since they dont care about the Dem party. However, the party itself will not be divided I think. Turnout and a unity ticket will therefore be needed to beat McCain.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 5, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am

david… are you unable to see that this is Obama’s attorney that infiltrated a Clinton press conference? Your logic seems flawed.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 5, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am

Voting is a right & I have the right to cast my vote as I see fit! If Republicans in Texas are voting on local elections most times they HAVE to vote in the Democrat primary. Here in Texas we do not have to register as a Dem or Rep. We just can’t vote in BOTH primaries. Lets see the Republicans have McCain, why shouldn’t I vote for the Dem I want to see in the running for the White House? Just because I am a Republican doesn’t mean I shouldn’t have say in which other candidate will have a 50/50 shot at being my next president! That is not in any way shape or form “fixing” anything election wise. I am exercising my Constitutional Right! I thought you Dems were all for that? Oh I forget y’all just like to whine & blame everyone else for your failures. If the Dems lose the White House again, blame Hillary & her dirty politics!

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am

You people are unbelievable, Obama can do no wrong. Amazing how Obama and his groupies whine and accuse any wierdo who wears an offensive t-shirt as being planted by the Clinton camp.
However, his adult female groupies are all to happy to be called “Sweetie” by Obama. (Don’t believe me, I didn’t believe it at first either, it was so arrogant and condescending — watch him greet people on C-Span after his speeches.) To call a grown woman you don’t know in a political forum “sweetie” is unacceptable and unbelievably arrogant and to me says something about possible future abuses of power. I’m surprised, or am I that no one noticed this or cares about this (do you need another pillow, Barack?)
They’re all too happy to call Hillary a witch, because sexism is okay. In fact, women are some of the worst at this. Fortunately, many of them do notice how sexist the media is, and the bullying tactics by Obama and his politics-as-usual buddies like Kennedy and Kerry.
At least Clinton doesn’t try to pretend she’s not a politics-as-usual campaigner.
Obama is a hypocrite – happy to hold her accountable for one vote as bad crucial judgment, but his own bad judgment, well, that’s just boneheaded.
Obama has NOT run a positive campaign, it is not possible if you want to win in this country. He’s the one whining “no fair” now that his buddy being on trial by association implicates him. He needs to take a time out and spend a few years actually voting, then let’s see how he’s able to deflect questions on his voting.

Posted by: tshirt_tt | March 5, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am

Amy,
It is not a crime! It is my constitutional right as an American citizen to vote my conscience & I did. McCain has the Republican nomination so I should be able to add my two cents to the other side. It is my right to have my voice heard also! You are not the only special one. I assume you are young or just not familiar with Texas politics as most local elections ALL candidates run as Democrats, so in order to vote for your choice in local politics you HAVE to vote in the Democrat primary. Once you do that you CANNOT vote in the Republican primary. Get over yourself you are just upset cause you are an Obama supporter & a whiney Democrat!

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am

Is anyone interested in the issues?
We could start with the 5 TRILLION+ dollars coming due on the Iraq-nam war. Climate change is another big issue. What about health care? The trade deficit from crude oil imports? The cost of gasoline and it’s effect on inflation? The 10 TRILLION dollar national debt… NOT including unfunded entitlement programs that have long term debt obligations of 50+ TRILLION? Jobs? Peak oil? Ozone collapse? Ocean fishery collapse? Rising seas from ice sheet collapse? Ad infinitum.
Wild rumours about Obama’s religious beliefs or Mrs. Clinton’s sexual orientation seem sort of irrelevant considering that the very $urvival of the nation is a $take.

Posted by: Guy Fox | March 5, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

Issues are great Guy! What issue do you want to discuss?

Posted by: DCVoter | March 5, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am

The peopel who post on this blog that support Obama are a representation of Obama himself his wif enad his campaign. You throw out accusations with no support, you are hot air with no fats, you are insulting and imature, I think anyone who reads these comments would vote for Hillary so they would not be associated with the type of people that support Obama.

Posted by: Mel | March 5, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

Why all this hatred against Islam?????????/
Where is the freedom of religion?????????????/
Or when it comes to the presidency of United States you have to be CHRISTIAN!!!!!!!!!!
what a hypocricy.

Posted by: NiceKID | March 5, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

Obama did not have a vote for the Iraq war. He admitted to Russert he does not know how he would’ve voted should he have had the same info. Still voted exactly the same as Hillary when he voted.
Amy I do agree. 100%.

Posted by: Janet | March 5, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

Do any of you do research, google websites, or actually learn anything before you make emphatic statements? Why must you call entire populations of states outside of the big cities “ignorant” because they live in the Heartland? Folks out here can read and write, and some of us even THINK about things. Give it a try, and for a nanosecond remember that none of us will get out of this world alive. We are all riding the same planet into infinity…thus you are no better than I, nor am I better than you. You don’t know me well enough to insult me, but I know the bigots when I read their comments. In my opinion, I doubt that some of you read much at all.

Posted by: Lou E. Brown | March 5, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am

HILLARY WON TEXAS AND OHIO-SHE’D BACK AND SHE’S GOING TO WIN THE NOMINATION AND THE PRESIDENCY!

Posted by: MEL | March 5, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

Republicans have a dignified nominee and Huckabee gave a great concession speech. It is time the democratic party decide who has the highest number of delegates as of the end of the day or else they are going to loose the support of the independents. The negative campaign is getting ugly and has rewarded Hillary with victories in 3 states after loosing 12 in a row, if Obama has to continue winning does he needs to stop being dignified as he has been or get at least as negative because there are people in this great country who fail to see the big picture and hang on to the petty name calling and labeling. For the trillionth time Obama is a Christian and even if he was not it does not matter to any intelligent voter who understands the constitution. Whether one of Obama’s supporter has done anything illegal out of the millions who support him is irrelevant to the confidence he inspires. So all these petty allegations are an election ploy to perpetuate a dynasty or contributes to silliness that should disappear soon.

Posted by: GJKOTW01 | March 5, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am

Candysdandy,
I am not from Texas, so I did not realize that that is how the primary was run.
In my state, Democrats vote for Democrats & Republicans vote for Republicans at the same time. Hilary & Obama were two Democratic candidates and McCain was a Republican candidate.
I am not an Obama supporter or a Democrat. And I am not extremely young either.
I am sorry that I did not understand that you *had* to vote as a Democrat. In my state, those who are registered as a Democrat would receive a ballot that would not have McCain & vice versa for those registered as Republicans. Independents cannot vote for either Republican or Democratic candidates, but just on state, county, or city propositions.
I guess not all primaries are run the same in all states, and I was not aware that in Texas it was different.
And please do not assume that I am a “whiney” Democrat. I am not necessarily an Obama supporter either, I just find that religious intolerance, sexism, or racism should be acceptable. I also think that at least in my state, those who really support McCain, or Hilary, or Obama should not switch parties – which now I understand you didn’t do: you have to go through a huge process to that here – in order to skew the results on the “opposing” party’s side in their favor.
But that is my opinion.
I wish that we could actually stop hating each other and work to make this a decent country and a decent world.

Posted by: Amy | March 5, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

STOP TALKING ABOUT HOW OBAMA INSPIRES THAT IS REDICULUS. LOOK AT THE FACTS AND THE EXPERIENCE THE PERSON TO KEEP US SAFE IN THIS COUNTRY. OBAMA IS FULL OF WORDS AND EMPTY SPEECHES. HE IS NOT A CHANGE HE IS AN ILLUSION THAT BRAINWASHES THE YOUNG AND IGNORNAT AND MISGUIDED. HIILARY FOR PRESIDENT

Posted by: BOBY | March 5, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am

P.S. Sorry I wrote the wrong thing: I meant to say that religious intolerance, sexism, or racism are unacceptable (or should be unacceptable).

Posted by: Amy | March 5, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am

P.P.S.
Boby,
I don’t know if you meant to write to me, but I did not mean that I feel Obama supports religious tolerance, anti-sexism, or anti-racism, etc.
Again, I am not an Obama supporter, a Hilary supporter, or a McCain supporter. I do not know enough about each individual to know who I support yet.
I don’t support insulting any religion – including Islam.
I don’t like people insulting people. Calling Democrats whiney or Republicans stupid, for example, is just insulting.
Sorry if I’ve insulted people, that was not my intent.
Ok now I’ve gotten way off topic…

Posted by: Amy | March 5, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am

So, for what I gather from Clinton’s supporters is that to be a MUSLIM == BAD FOR AMERICA and since Obama was raised MUSLIM then he is BAD FOR AMERICA. I guess that since we are so afraid of the BAD MUSLIMS then we never should think about a leader that has any tides (if there are any) with ISLAM. It doesn’t matter what kind of new ideas might he/she brings to the table. Honestly, democrats (Clinton democrats mainly) are looking more like BUSH REPUBLICANS every day this campaign goes on, what a shame. I wonder what is next BLACK == WRONG FOR AMERICA… This is very sad.

Posted by: Jov | March 5, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am

Amy, my comment was for whoever said Obama inspires them. I must say I appreciate the fact the you are waiting untill you know enough about the candidates before you vote. Too many people vote without all of the facts. It is so important that you look at the facts and not what the media or other misguided peopel are telling you.

Posted by: boby | March 5, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am

Jov, pulling the race card pathetic!
this country acts as if it is ok to be sexist but not racist. why do you think obama wins caucuses? Peopel are afraid to look racist. Racisim and sexism are BOTH wrong

Posted by: BOBY | March 5, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am

For anyone interested in seeing how the “electability” picture looks between Obama and Clinton, I have been keeping track of which states I predict will be swing states (less than 5% difference in 2004 and/or less than 30% Bush approval rating). I also include the Red and Blue states in my counting based on voter turnout. I am not including McCain numbers since I knew he would get their nom. Here is what the numbers look like so far:
For states that have held primaries/caucuses for both parties so far:
Red States in 2004 with higher Dem turnouts account for 78 electors. 52 Clinton, 26 Obama
Blue States in 2004 with higher Dem turnouts account for 142 electors. 102 Clinton, 40 Obama
Blue Battleground States in 2004 with Higher Dem turnouts account for 74 electors. 36 Clinton, 38 Obama
Red Battleground States in 2004 with Higher Dem turnouts account for 102 electors. 62 Clinton, 40 Obama
Electoral totals so far: 252 Clinton, 144 Obama
Clinton definitely appears more electable considering the fact only 270 electors are needed to win in November and there are only 10 states left in the primary contest. She is onto something here… if she can pull out a win and unify the party with the right ticket… I think she will beat McCain.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 5, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

DCVoter, you are right Hillary is the one that can beat Mccain. Obama will not win newest polls show that CLinton is the one that can beat Mccain.

Posted by: Mel | March 5, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

Obama supporters can’t take a hit. Boo hoo. This is America and we can vote for who we want to. Face it, you lost RI, Ohio and Texas and Hillary is ahead in the popular vote, without Michigan and Florida. Brace yourselves for a battle. These are popular votes. Your fellow Americans’ votes.
Clinton 13,269,869
Obama 13,256,148

Posted by: LK | March 5, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

DCVoter !!
Cross check you math.

Posted by: leche | March 5, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

Actually Amy I agree with you! I wish we could all just get along.
I am sorry to have come at you so strong, but when you assumed we were voting illegally & committing a crime it upset me. As I explained Texas does things different, as do most states. I think most states do things their own way. I know I have learned a lot about how other states handle their elections by watching all the different primaries.
In Texas we don’t register as Republicans or Democrats. When a primary happens we vote in 1 partys primary. We cannot vote in the other primary that election year. Come January of the next year we are again free to vote in whatever primary we choose if there is one (usually not). In the general election we can vote however we choose. Election processes are very confusing & Texas’ is no exception! I am a native Texan & I have been confused more than once!
Again, I apologize for my rude remarks. Good luck to you on your candidate search, it’s not an easy decision, especially wih so much at stake! Take care! Candy

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am

BOBY – while I agree caucuses are bad because they are not secret ballot, I also think they are bad because they disenfranchise lots of voters who cannot participate. I think the main reason Obama does well in caucuses is because his supporters are mostly college kids and liberal lattes who can take the time to caucus.
The democratic core cannot do that and of the core voters who can caucus, some are women who dont feel comfortable voting for someone their husband or neighbor is not going to approve of. (An example: In Texas early voting, they had to remove a husband from the polling place because he would not let his wife vote unless he was standing there watching her and telling her how to vote.) The college kids are likely to be subject to peer pressure also from the kids they go to school with or even just be caught up in the moment and not making an educated decision based on the issues and qualifications of candidates.
I keep seeing interviews and reports of voters who do not know anything about their candidates other than media hype. But overall, I think caucuses do not reflect the will of the voters. WA state results prove that theory.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 5, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am

People are begining to see that all Obama has to offer is a lot of words and empty speeches. His hot air will soon run out and people will see the truth about him. Just wait until the Rezko Trial gets more coverage and the fact that he sent a message to Canada about how he lied about NAFTA for political gain. ANd what is this change he talks about every new president is change.The change is that he is a smooth talking liar. People are beginning to see Obama for the liar he truly is. Hillary for President!

Posted by: mel | March 5, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am

Not only do we have major race issues, but now we have this religious test, which apparently only applies to blacks.
The clintons didn’t need blacks to win in the primaries, so they won’t need blacks in November. Black people should stay home on election day and let the clintons win and govern the united states of whites and latinos.
They certainly won’t get my vote.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | March 5, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

LA….Mitt Romney wasn’t black & he was drug through the mud because of his religion.

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

Not only do we have major race issues, but now we have this religious test, which apparently only applies to blacks.
The clintons didn’t need blacks to win in the primaries, so they won’t need blacks in November. Black people should stay home on election day and let the clintons win and govern the united states of whites and latinos.
They certainly won’t get my vote.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | March 5, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

leche thanks – I cross checked and it is fine. Remember those are only electoral counts for states that have held primary or caucus elections so far. When all are done a total of 538 electors are available. 270 to win in Nov. What do you think is wrong with the math? Maybe something is misleading? let me know

Posted by: DCVoter | March 5, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am

LA, the Clintons were in Texas & they did not reach out to whites or blacks here, just hispanics. I as a white person doesn’t want to be ruled by her as she doesn’t care about me anymore than you think she doesn’t care about you. With that being the case, you & I need to vote so we can be lead by someone who cares about you, me & the rest of our country. I know how you feel though, like a slap in the face.

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am

Amy – if it will help you, try searching on vote smart to find the organizations (.org) website so you can get all the facts on each candidate regardless of party. They have the bios, additional info, voting records, interest group ratings, campaign fund sources, and more.
Vote smart!

Posted by: DCVoter | March 5, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am

Not only do we have major race issues, but now we have this religious test, which apparently only applies to blacks.
The clintons didn’t need blacks to win in the primaries, so they won’t need blacks in November. Black people should stay home on election day and let the clintons win and govern the united states of whites and latinos.
They certainly won’t get my vote.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | March 5, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am

Caucases & super delegates need to be rethought….elections can be bought with a system like this.

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am

sorry for the repeat folks, computer acting up

Posted by: LA in Indiana | March 5, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am

I am an American.
I live and breath as a Muslim.
I didn’t know that following Islam made me one of those who couldn’t ever run for office. What am I supposed to tell my children? You are American… but you will never be the President of the United States of America? You are American… but others will never trust you, so watch your back… You may even lose your citizenship because of some crazy terrorists’ violent acts… You are defined by their actions and words and not by how you act and live as an AMERICAN, who just happens to be MUSLIM?
Should I stop considering myself an American? Until lately that identity has been an inherent part of me, but now I feel so much hidden hatred and fear in my “enlightened” fellow Americans’ hearts. You can work with me, be my friends, neighbors, but not be represented in the government by me?
Obama may not be Muslim, but whether he is or not should not matter. What should matter is how is he going to solve our country’s problems? How will he include in the process, citizens from all races, religions, ages, economic backgrounds, and even the Republicans?! :) Put aside your hatred and open up that beautiful American mind of yours. We all have something to offer each other and this country, a melting pot, that the world has long envied.

Posted by: So Sad... | March 5, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am

LA, stop playing the race card Hillary clinton is more black that Obama. SHe cares more and does more for blacks. She fought for blacks when she was only a teenager and has carried through to present day. Skin color does not make a person that fights for blacks.

Posted by: Boby | March 5, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am

LA and candy – I know you are upset but I think perhaps you have been mislead about who Clinton cares about. She has worked hard for all people regardless of race or gender. Without going into her voting record or human rights activities in detail, here is a list of awards and things she is involved in that show how much she cares:
Personal Heros
Eleanor Roosevelt
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Awards
-Humanitarian Award, Elie Wiesel Foundation
-Women Who Make A Difference Lifetime Achievement Award, Family Circle
-President’s Award, League of United Latin American Citizens
-International Women’s Philanthropy Award, Lion of Judah Conference of Combined Jewish Philanthropies
-Distinguished Bridge Builder Award, Leon H. Sullivan Foundation
-Recognition, Military Order of the Purple Heart
-Distinguished Service Award, National Association of Elementary School Principals
-Bully Pulpit Award, National Council for Adoption
-Black Women of Courage Award, National Federation of Black Women Business Owners
-Martin Luther King Jr. Award, Progressive National Baptist Convention
- Secretary of Defense Medal for Outstanding Public Service
-Woman of Steel – Role Model of the Year, United Steel Workers of America
-Arkansas Woman of the Year-1983
-Arkansas Mother of the Year-1984
Co-Founder, Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families
Board Member, Arkansas Children’s Hospital
Board Member, Children’s Defense Fund
Caucuses/Non-Legislative Committees:
American Bar Association’s Commission on Women in the Profession
Chair, Arkansas Educational Standards Committee
Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe
Co-Chair, Congressional E-911 Caucus
Democratic Policy Committee
Democratic Technology and Communications Committee
Board Member, Legal Services Corporation
Senate National Guard Caucus
Senate Rural Health Caucus
Senate Steel Caucus
Chair, Steering and Coordination Committee
Chair, Task Force of National Health Care Reform.
Committees:
Armed Services, Member
Environment & Public Works, Member
Health, Education, Labor & Pensions, Member
Special Committee on Aging, Member
Subcommittee On Readiness and Management Support, Member
Subcommittee on Airland, Member
Subcommittee on Clean Air and Nuclear Safety, Member
Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities, Member
Subcommittee on Superfund and Environmental Health, Chair
Subcommittee on Transportation and Infrastructure, Member

Posted by: DCVoter | March 5, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am

“Elbaum did not hold back on his views of Obama when he was interviewed by ABC within full view of a Clinton staffer.”
The Clinton staffer standing nearby should have ‘rejected and denounced’ this kind of behavior…and Clinton herself, by not sending this man on his way indicates that she condones this type of fear mongering. Do we really want someone with her lack of moral character and lack of integrity in the White House?

Posted by: NanD | March 5, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am

Thanks, DCVoter for putting things into to perspective so everyone can see th etruth.

Posted by: boby | March 5, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am

So sad, I agree with you! Well said!

Posted by: NanD | March 5, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am

I guess it’s true, then…Clinton will use racial fear mongering and religious fear mongering to get votes…and use under educated voters’ ignorance against them.

Posted by: NanD | March 5, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am

Maybe what this country needs is ruthless, attack-mentality bulldog of a candidate like Hillary Clinton. The international community outside of Western Europe is mostly made up of unscrupulous cut-throat back-deal power-hungry countries. Hillary is just low enough and street hardened to deal with them on an equal level. She’s proven that fear and attacks get the job done here and at home. Civility and diplomacy are not in her vocabulary. Obama can’t go toe to toe with her. There’s an old saying that you can’t win a fight if the your opponent does not play fair. The one with the knife/gun will win every time. The take home message tonight is that fear and personal attacks will trump idealism, and trying to stay above the fray of gutter politics doesn’t seem to matter to the electorate. The same will hold true for the upcoming nasty national election between Hillary and McCain. Sad for our country and it’s young people to watch.

Posted by: RCO | March 5, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am

candy – I personally saw live and recorded coverage of both Bill and Hillary Clinton with voters of all races so I think you are not right saying they only reached out to Hispanics. Since I am a Texan living in the DC area now, I was very interested in any video coverage I could see of my home state. :)

Posted by: DCVoter | March 5, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am

Unless one of our candidates – John, Hilary or Barack starts talking about how we are going to pay the debt of a $2-3 TRILLION war, any CHANGE is impossible. We cannot afford to support our children in schools, our families in debt from junk mortgages, our social security system or our need for health insurance reform as long as we are indebted with this unfounded war and cost. The biggest test of our great democracy will not be from terrorism or ideological differences but from the incomprehensible cost our current administration has laid at the feet of the next generation. True change will happen only when our politicians start talking to us honestly about our country’s fiscal condition and how we are going to pay off the country’s junk mortgage.

Posted by: ptrk | March 5, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am

I told everyone here earlier that the clintons own the word “comeback”. She proved it again last nite. Obama in his speech looked “drained” of life. See what only 3days of bad press did to the inner man in him. How will he look like after Karl Rove finishes with him after 3mths!! Thanks to sane thinking people in TX and OH, we wont get to see that. Hillary is the real deal.

Posted by: lluluadorl | March 5, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am

DCvoter, thank you for the info seriously, but I don’t like her & I never have. She is for Hillary first & foremost, after that it is whoever is most beneficial to her.
I noticed in other primaries where a large percentage of voters were black, she played up Bill being the first “black” president. She played up all her civil rights work, etc.
In Ohio, she cozied up to the working class whites. In Texas she snuggled up to Hispanics only. In Texas we have blacks, whites, asians, etc….we were all ignored.
I, as a white female, watch her court the whites in Ohio & I ask myself why them & not us? Answer, she doesn’t need the white vote in Texas.
She sucked up to the blacks in South Carolina even insinuating Bill was blacker than Obama, in Texas our blacks were as ignored as us whites. Why I ask myself….cuz she didn’t need the blacks in Texas.
Can’t tell me there aren’t any blacks in Ohio but I haven’t seen or heard her reaching out to them either.
She, IMO, is an opprotunist, plain & simple. She will cozy up with whoever & whatever will get her elected.
The other day she threatened to sue the Texas DNC if she didn’t win our state. That tells me she doesn’t care about any of *us*, only herself. If what we want doesn’t agree with her, she is going to sue to get her way. How democratic is that? How Constitutional is that? If she is elected we are going to be in for a BIG surprise! Not the nice kind either!

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am

As soon as Hillary started slinging mud I knew I couldn’t vote for her. For all her complaining about the right wing hit machine she is all to eager to use their mudslinging dirty tactics against her fellow Dem. I used to respect her, but that kind of hypocrisy is just to much. She has no integrity. I’ll vote for McCain before I vote for her now.

Posted by: Ror | March 5, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am

well I will be working to make sure she loses in november. sorry folks, but as I said earlier, say hello to President McCain.
Democratic Party? what democratic party???
you mean three days of lies and distortions. and that is the kind of president you want, no wonder the kids do nothing but cheat to get ahead now days. That comes from the top down.
I will work hard to make sure the clintons DO NOT win in november.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | March 5, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am

Didn’t say they were banned. They showed up because they wanted to. When he came to my town he was on the west or hispanic side of town. She was in the Valley. All the coverage in all the different papers I saw were all targeting hispanics. Bills message was very racially slanted also.

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am

Her use of the “right wing political machine” chewing up Obama was a mere smoke screen employed to detract what she herself was doing.
DCvoter…..NEVER EVER HILLARY

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am

ptrk – of the three candidates you mention, only Senator Clinton has talked about fiscal responsibility along with change.
McCain admits to not knowing much about economic issues and his speech tonight was old school “lower taxes, less spending, and less regulation”. I truly think he has no idea and is demonstrating he will allow the RNC to control him. We have already seen their failed policies under Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush, and Bush.
Senator Obama seems to simply parrot Senators Clinton, Edwards, and Biden’s plans so I dont think he has much of a clue either.
Senator Clinton is the only one I trust since she has a track record of helping with Bill Clinton and Al Gore creating a surplus in Clinton’s second term. Yes a surplus means we had extra money! Unfortunately, Bush Jr. spent it in the first 3 mths of 2000.
A book came out recently called “Where the Money Goes” with a detailed analysis of our federal government spending for the last 35 years. Only 4 of them did we not spend more than we took in – during Bill Clinton’s second term. During that term we say great prosperity and relative world peace not only in America but abroad since so many economies are affected by ours. I trust Hillary Clinton to turn things around and bring about smart change.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 5, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am

Hillary will self destruct. She is drunk with power & on a major downward spiral as far as her behavior. She will turn off the independants & the more conservative dems…..she will not win! Besides McCain is a Democrat in a lot of ways.

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am

DCvoter….fiscal responsibility? Are you kidding? Her plan for fiscal responsibility is redistribution of *our* wealth! Thats yours, mine, & every other hard working, tax paying American! I personally don’t think that is a responsible plan!

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am

It is Obama’s turn to be advised to drop out. Now that it is clear he cant WIN in Nov!! Is he really that stupid not to see that????? Or is he still in his fairytale dream of Utah and Idaho helping him win in the GE??

Posted by: lluluadorl | March 5, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am

Dcvoter, if you are from Texas then you are obviously a “yellow dog” yes?

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am

For eleven straight losses I held my head high and never surrendered and never blamed the voters for voting Obama. I took the hits like a man and just went on to fight for the next state. Now we win three states and the Obama supporters blame a dumb kid in a t-shirt, blame the Hillary camp for winning and blame anything and anyone writing for Hillary on this blog. This craziness about one nut in a t-shirt is ONE of the reasons you lost. The rest of America has caught on to your ability to whine over little stupid issues.

Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 5, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am

LOL llulu – but I think both shoulds stay in for the long haul and all the voters should have the chance to participate in this historic election. This is the only “sport” that has playoffs first. Once a nominee is chosen, the disgruntled Indies and Reps who dont like the nominee will filter off back to the Rep party. The remainder will need closure so the Dem party can unify behind the winning candidate.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 5, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am

well lets have a party, and get us some cheese for the whine…
celebrate good times, c’mon

Posted by: LA in Indiana | March 5, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am

I think I liked it better when Texas was being blamed for Bush! I think I also liked it better when the nominee was decided before it got to Texas! I do NOT wish to be attached to Hillary! I’ll take Bush & Cheney, let Ohio have Hillary!

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am

Well Hillary has once again shown what being the queen of sleeze is all about. It’s quite clear her campaign rivals Nixon and his dirty tricks. I’m an independant and I’d vote for Obama. If she’s the nominee, then McCain gets my vote.

Posted by: Den | March 5, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am

LA, I’m with you. Extract the whites from that statement or at least white republicans & independants. White democrats will vote for a 3 legged blind yellow dog if it is running on the democrats ticket!

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am

candy – actually no for two reasons: 1) I am a Registered Independent and 2) yellow dog democrats come from southern states and TX is a southwestern state not southern

Posted by: DCVoter | March 5, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am

LOL….I just realized I described Hillary with that last statement!

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am

Guess your from ElPaso cuz I live in the South & I am proud of it!

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 3:01 am 3:01 am

Cheers Dogsoldier and WestCoastMessenger! I think the win tonight was sweet and the speech was inspiring. A lot of work yet to do but the momentum has definitely shifted.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 5, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am

Senator Hillary Clinton will NEVER be president no matter what she does. It doesn’t matter how many kitchen sinks she throws at Senator Obama.

Posted by: kizeem | March 5, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am

Dogsoldier did ya say something? I must’ve missed it! Please repeat….hit me with your best shot…I can take it!

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am

I saw your comment dogsoldier…I didn’t think it applied to me. If you have paid attention I am a 2 time Bush voting, hate mongering, war machine…..whatever that westcoast guy said…Republican. Actually just a Republican but you will of course assume the rest. Whatever, matters not to me what you think. If you support Hillary how can you even THINK about judging me?

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am

let’s see y’all unite the party NOW
lol you can’t, its too fractured and you kicked blacks like dirt
so let’s party and watch hillary take her punch from mccain
let’s see if she likes to be kicked come November

Posted by: LA in Indiana | March 5, 2008, 3:10 am 3:10 am

BTW candy… you might want to rethink the yellow dog democrat association. That is what southerners who objected to the Republicans of that time period (Lincoln) abolishing slavery and the south losing the Civil War. Hence, they are often seen as racist. Just thought you might like to know that.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 5, 2008, 3:10 am 3:10 am

and that westcoastguy…he is the reason why I will never ever say Texas is southwest…..we are SOUTH…we are not west…we are central & at the bottom…..SOUTH!

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am

I’m NOT a yellow dog….I am a Republican….Democrats are yellow dogs….like most liberals you do not read!
But…..I would vote for Obama before Clinton…so how would that make me racist? You libs like to call people racists while being racist yourselves. You judge others by yourself.

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am

“This is the prime example of ignorance apparent in the Hilary Supporter. They are obviously uneducated rural idiots who can pick their nose but won’t pick up a newspaper or go beyond Hee Haw to get their facts straight.” Molly 11:52 pm
Molly FYI
I have a Masters degree in Mathematics, read New York Times daily, subscsribe to and read Time & Newsweek magazines and a supporter of Hillary. Oh BTW I live in suburbs of Chicago.

Posted by: Sammy | March 5, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am

they left out elitist yankee…feel better?

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am

Hi Sammy – good to see you posting. Ignore the people who post nonsense like that. We know they are simply stereotyping and are not correct.
candy – look at any map subdivision of the USA… TX is not a southern state… I spent 37 years of my life there and can attest to the fact that most Texans know they live in a southwestern state.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 5, 2008, 3:22 am 3:22 am

Oh yeah, Barack supporters are squirming now, attacking Clinton on all fronts. Maybe, just maybe the American people finally woke up tonight and realized who the best candidate really is…a grown up, smart, experienced woman ready to lead us out of this mess tomorrow.

Posted by: Dee H. | March 5, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am

Born & Raised here & it is in the South….oh well agree to dis agree….also again you misread…I voted for Hillary in the primary…I am a Republican who actually wanted Ron Paul but will settle for McCain. Good night!

Posted by: candysdandy | March 5, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am

The severe lack of informed or brainwashed Clinton supporters is rather frightening. Hello, do you really believe that a divisive, back-room dealing white lacking actual accountability for leadership before winning a senate seat actually counts for experience? Hello! wake the hell up! the historical rationale for enslaving blacks among others has always been 1) seducing white women to copulate and 2) to lack the intelligence so as to justify white privilege in “taking care” of the “disadvantaged” and currently, the “disabled”. Lets ask Clinton supporters a question. When has the establishment ever changed without actual pressure to do so from the outside rather than the inside? Change in politics only comes from without. Since when do those in power, such as those recently in power (i.e. the Clinton’s) ever produce substantial change in history? Check you facts! this only hurts us as democrats. McCain will cream Hillary. She has no leadership skills. Ask yourself a question. What has she ever successfully accomplished on her own as a senator or before that? Just because someone has experience as a Washington insider doesn’t mean they can lead, or have done so. Ultimately, if she was such a leader, then why has she not run for office until after her husbands carrier is history?
Just think about that!

Posted by: steven | March 5, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am

Well, looks like Hillary smeared Obama enough to give white voters the creeps. I was a Hillary supporter, but her dirty tricks turned me off. I am convinced she can’t beat McCain. Hillary is taking the party over the cliff. Ladies, I know you want a woman president, but don’t you wanr a woman who didn’t get there by her Husbands name.

Posted by: anthony pace | March 5, 2008, 3:41 am 3:41 am

These are the type of idiot xenophobes being drawn to her campaign. She has Rush Limbaugh to congratulate for the victory. The GOP is smacking their lips for further HRC victories. With Limbaugh’s republican legions to lend their votes and with Hillary’s underhanded tactics the democratic party will be split and wounded, the republicans will be strong and united against the one candidate that will bring all of their faithful in full force.

Posted by: Rialb58 | March 5, 2008, 3:48 am 3:48 am

Oh so now I was brainwash to vote for Hillary because of Rush Limbaugh. Give me a break. Without obama’s speeches he actually has nothing to give. maybe a studering here and near about his answers. flip flopping to get as much vote as possible maybe not admitting his fault and just fire his economic staff after the Nafta incident.

Posted by: JDaryl747 | March 5, 2008, 4:19 am 4:19 am

He should have fired the eco advisor and anyone else who knew about it within his camp. He should also fire the lawyer that infiltrated that Clinton call without an invite. But I doubt we will see that of course because that would take good judgement.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 5, 2008, 4:22 am 4:22 am

anthony – I think you have the perspective all wrong… she didnt get where she is today because of Bill Clinton… she got there in spite of him! LOL

Posted by: DCVoter | March 5, 2008, 4:24 am 4:24 am

That you are even having this discussion proof’s that something is deeply wrong with your country. I understand Obama, it would be political suicide to say he was a Muslim but I can’t understand you voters. I live in and come from Sweden, also a Christian country, here it would not matter if you are black or white, male or female, Christian o Muslim. And I seriously can’t understand why you ain’t discussing how wrong it is that this even is an issue.
I don’t belive Obama is an Muslim but if he were he would still be my all time number one choice for president of the United States.
Kind Regards
Mathew

Posted by: mathew | March 5, 2008, 4:24 am 4:24 am

So Please educate me,
Are you saying that if you’re black you must be muslim? because other than that you have no real foundation for your remarks. So let me say this, the majority of blacks that I’ve met are Christians and the muslims that I’ve had the opportunity to meet have been in all different shades (including white) and different nationalities. The American Muslims following their true faith here in the U.S. are some of most nicest, non combative, kindest, welcoming people that I have met and I think this election has bought and given every racist a page inwhich they can sit comfortably in the presence of others racist. As for Hillary, she is for Hillary and she will throw every Democrate under the machine in order to become the nomminee, then the Republicans will walk away with it all laughing about how clever their game plan went off without a hitch.

Posted by: LMC | March 5, 2008, 5:10 am 5:10 am

I wish it was that Republicans voted because they are fed up with what has been happening for four years and want a change but I fear that may not be the case. The comeback may have been structured by Republican PARTICIPATION and should be examined to see if it is Democratic or a dirty trick by repblicans. Mc Cain received dramatically less votes than the three republicans combined. in re[ublican states. Hilary people have been hungry for a win but thanks to a call to troops from Rosh Limbaugh? 2000 and 2004 were considered elections stolen can this be the primary stolen from the democrats? Isn’t anyone looking at the numbers of republicans in democratic elections in republican states?

Posted by: mamarosa | March 5, 2008, 5:16 am 5:16 am

If Hillary Clinton somehow manages to wrest the nomination from Obama on the basis of the superdelegates, I do not think I will vote for her. I may even vote against her. Her campaign’s behavior in this primary has been deplorable.

Posted by: Gene L | March 5, 2008, 5:16 am 5:16 am

Hillary does not believe that Obama is a Muslim. The talking heads are in search of a story here. I have seen the clip from her 60 minutes interview.
The media has consistantly made attempts to claim she did not mean what she was saying. Keep in mind she was adament repeating NO 3 times and has repeated many times since that she does not believe these sick rumors.
The Muslim smear emails came to me from the same source (Republican dirty tricks dept) that I have been receiving smear emails for 4 years about Hillary, Kerry, and Edwards etc. I want to explain that I have refused to forward these emails anywhere. To give any kind of vehicle to the obviously false and partisan smears is simply wrong.
Both the man who was hawking his T-shirts and the reporter that was giving him a forum should be rejected and rebuked. Not just by Hillary’s campaign but by all of us….I really think that this is a true case of talking heads looking for and even creating a negative story. At what point does the press have a responsibility in these appeals to the lowest common denominators.
Why is an ad that says “She will say or do anything to get elected” not portrayed as negative…and an ad that says”Who do you want there in an emergency at 3AM” portrayed as an attack or negative.
The American voter is more intelligent than we are given credit for. Perhaps if we think there has been bias in the media towards one candidate it’s because we saw it long before Saturday Night.
Perhaps the media does not want to admit they are becoming an unwelcome participant in the story. My advice is report the news…and don’t write the end to the story before the story is finished.

Posted by: J Allen | March 5, 2008, 5:33 am 5:33 am

I am a lifelong Democrat and will NOT vote for Hillary if she is nominated. I used to respect her and Bill, not anymore. If she is the choice, I will be voting for Nader.
Obama 08

Posted by: Todd | March 5, 2008, 5:37 am 5:37 am

I see how she wins elections and sadly for her, it’s busniess as usual. I will make a point of campaigning twice as hard against her if she secures the nomination precisely because it would be done in this manner.

Posted by: SE Croft | March 5, 2008, 5:45 am 5:45 am

The media and their minions ran Romney out of the race because he’s Mormon; but all questions about Obama’s religion is *.*phobic? For a primer, read his church’s manifesto.

Posted by: Frank | March 5, 2008, 6:20 am 6:20 am

The old guard will not allow a black man to be president, at least not yet. Obama has, and continues to, push the envelope farther than any African-American in our history. But it won’t happen this time. Watch Obama wilt in the next several primaries, watch the superdelegates ‘slide’ over to Clinton, and watch the Dems give her the nod. It is indeed such a sad state of affairs that the powers above can do such terrible deeds. Sometimes I wonder why kids get into the poli-sci arena. They are all disillusioned. Our country needs a good international ass-kicking, economically and politically. Maybe then Washington will realize that life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness does not apply only to themselves.

Posted by: Ed | March 5, 2008, 6:21 am 6:21 am

Don’t you love how the Obama supporteres blame the Clinton Campaign for everything. Ever bother to consider your supposed unity guy is to blame also. What did you expect, you have a nomination that sees the first possible female nominee and the first possible black nominee running against each Did you think it wasn’t going to create strong emotions??????? By his very existence in this nomination Obama is equally polarizing. His stance on every issue places people in for me or against me positions. His advisors come out like nasty feral attack dogs to try and allow him to maintain his nice guy image. His wife questions whether she would be able to support the other nominee, makes comments that open to negative interpretation. He associates with a fairly militant church. He fails to denounce the strong arm contacts of the black caucus regarding superdelegates. So if you want to say this nomination process is destroying the party fine but don’t blame only one side because the Obama campaign has a hell of alot to answer for.

Posted by: Oh really | March 5, 2008, 6:51 am 6:51 am

Well if you watched 60 minutes on Sunday…and seen some people from Chillicothe, Ohio was chosen to interview about the candidates…one of the people was repeating a lie he heard about Obama and the interviewer had to correct him…sad state of affairs when a person is ignorant to the facts and prefer to stay that way!

Posted by: FrigidWeather | March 5, 2008, 6:51 am 6:51 am

First of all, I think everyone is missing the point, missing a couple of points. It’s crazy, I know, but it really shoudl not matter if Obama is a Muslim or not. Theoretically, anyway, this is a free country and people are free to follow whatever faith they want. If he is lying about being a Muslim, that is another story. Secondly, why is it a big deal if people are calling the man by his name? WHy soudl his campaign be UPSET that people are trying to use his name against him? He is ashamed of his own name? Why is he acting like it is so unfair of peopel to emphasize his name. Is he too much of a coward to even stand up for his own name and embrace it? Instead he whines that people are abusing his name because it might be politically unadvantageous? What a loser! Ironic, since the only person I believe Obama worships is Obama. I have never witnessed a POLITICIAN so full of himself. He has fallen for his own (false) image.

Posted by: Maria | March 5, 2008, 7:10 am 7:10 am

that man and his t-shirt are disgusting, no doubt. as are many woman-haters who support obama.
however, the question that has bothered me, and continues to bother me throughout this whole ‘is/was obama a muslim’ thing is this:
i take him at his word, but so what if he is/was? why is it considered a slur to refer to someone as muslim?
i think obama is doing his own campaign a disservice by not pointing this out. why doesn’t he have the guts to say ‘actually, i’m a christian, but why are you accusing me of being muslim as if that were an insult? a lot of good, honest people in america and all over the world are in fact muslim’.
this reminds me of the same old politics – so-called leaders are afraid to stand up for core liberal values, allowing racists and christian fundamentalists to set the tone and define the terms of the argument.

Posted by: e | March 5, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am

Yeah hate those ignorant Clinton supporters as opposed to those super intelligent Obama suppoters who:
1/ Can’t name a single policy of his 9 times out of ten. Though many have said just being the first possible black President is enough of a reason to vote for him.
2/ Accuse the Clintons of playing a role in murdering about 30+ people.
3/ Misquote Sen Clintons senate record especially as she where she has had more bills initiated by her passed nearly 3:1.
4/Want to rehash Whitewater which has has had an investigation but ignore Rezko.
5/ Blame Hillary for Bills fooling around (yeah thats really enlightened)
6/ When citing Obamas objection of the war in 2002 fail to acknowledge prior to this cmpaign how he also said “I can’t judge because I didn’t have access to the information they did” or “I can’t say what I would have done (voted) if I was in the senate at the time”
7/ Think Peter Paul is an honest guy
Shall I go on.
Yep I hate those people who are just so ignorant of facts and choose to ignore reality to push their own candidate and prefer to stay that way.
Taking a better look before making blanket comments.

Posted by: Hello | March 5, 2008, 7:15 am 7:15 am

Regardless of what happens in the final outcome I can know that I supported the candidate that has integrity. There is sooo much dirt out there on both Clintons that Obama could us but won’t because he refuses to stoop to that level. Shame is that the people who do support Clinton? Seem to thrive on being lied to and actually like the mud slinging. What very sad little lives they must live.

Posted by: Brian | March 5, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am

Oh one other thing? DO THE MATH…….

Posted by: Brian | March 5, 2008, 7:27 am 7:27 am

Here’s some math for you, Mr. Integrity: REZKO
Birds of a feather (and their wives) lunch together.

Posted by: Math Whiz | March 5, 2008, 7:40 am 7:40 am

Why can’t Obama and Hillary take the high road for once on this issue. Since when did being a Muslim become viewed as something “vicious”? If he is not a Muslim then he’s not, but don’t act like it’s the “cooties”. My ancentors have been in this country for centuries (coming from Europe, Africa and also Native American)and I am proud to say that “I AM A MUSLIM”! I do not take responsibility for any other person’s act’s, regargless of how erroneously they perceive it as being related to the teachings of Islam. Nor should any Christian, Jew or otherwise take responsibility for the Timothy McVeighs’ or laundry-list of people who take a notion to shoot up a school, mall or Wendy’s every other week. Everyone seems to forget that guy who terrorized the country with ricin through our postal system or set off a bomb at the Atlanta Olympic Games, because they were “not” Muslims. Both candidates should be able to state their case without alienating a part of their constituency.

Posted by: Marie | March 5, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am

Hillary Clinton is using the same tactics against Obama that she did against Republican adversaries. She didn’t destroy the GOP but may take out her own party. I wish her the best of luck in doing that. Go Hillary! Oh, I ought to fire up some Jiffy Pop for this one.

Posted by: David E. Powell | March 5, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

I think only popular speech should be protected. When somebody says something we don’t agree with or don’t like, I think they should be supressed.
/sarcasm off
Everybody has a right to their own say. The more interesting question is who runs it on nationwide media outlets and why.
This story should be less about what some yahoo said and more about who put it out there for everybody to see. What is their motivation/agenda?

Posted by: JoeMama | March 5, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am

CONGRATULATIONS HILLARY!! YOUR “CORE” CONSTITUENCY IS BACK WITHIN THE FOLD. YEAH, THE WHITE WOMEN AND WORKING CLASS WHITE GUY ( ARCHIE BUNKER – WANNA BE) HAVE PREVAILED YET AGAIN! YOU GO GIRL!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK – WHAT A GREAT ALLIANCE – TINA FEY/GLORIA STEINHAM JOINING FORCES W/THE VERY WHITE MEN THEY ABHORE – Like this “OSAMA/OBAMA GUY!! YEAH, I CAN SEE THE DEMOCRATS ALL JOINING HANDS AT THE END OF THIS PRIMARY SEASON!

Posted by: agbi | March 5, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am

Since when did being a Muslim become viewed as something “vicious”?
gosh where does one start?
maybe it was leon klinghoffer, disabled american tourist on the achille lauro, murdered by muslim terrorists, 1985?
or the marine barracks bombing in beirut, 1983?
or, how about WTC, 1993? or maybe WTC, 2001?
or the murder of robert dean stethem by hizb’allah?
or do we go back to the 7th century?
somehow, someway, these muslims have gotten this crazy reputation of being vicious murderous religious nuts?
i know i’m at a loss for an explanation.

Posted by: nick danger | March 5, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am

This wins the award for the dumbest story of the election night coverage. Go home. Get some sleep.

Posted by: Mike Kelly | March 5, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am

Could there be stranger bedfellows than this: Clinton fans are almost impossible to distinguish from Rush fans these days.

Posted by: SE Croft | March 5, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am

Hillary’s ad: They darkened Obama.
She played the race card.
She played the Muslim card.
Triangulation and divide.

Posted by: JB | March 5, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

I just can’t believe this country, in this day and age, falls for this kind of bigotry and hatred. Hillary Clinton is a bigot, and I would rather leave the country for Canada, then ever salute her as president.
Thankfully I would still have the option of McCain, should the Party decide a fear-mongering, gender bashing, race-baiting leader is what they want.
All I can hope is that the younger people in the party, who have created this Obama thing, don’t get disillusioned, and that they someday will be able to bring the party back to represent what is truly American, about America.

Posted by: Chicka | March 5, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

It’s an easy test. Who would Osama, and all the other Islamic terrorist, like to win the next US presidential election? Obama or McCain? Do the math. Obama has sworn to cut and run, McCain has sworn to stand and fight.
Unless, of course, Obama is just playing to the kooks like he is with NAFTA. No more NAFTA! (wink, wink, Canada)

Posted by: Joey | March 5, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

“It Takes a village .. a destroyed village for me to become the Queen” – Hillary

Posted by: U2 | March 5, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Face, it Democrats.. all the years of race baiting, meddling in Republican primaries, and whining are now being paid for. The Dems are FINALLY being exposed for the hypocrites that they are, and it’s sweeeeeet. Too bad McCain is a Dem-light….

Posted by: Dr.Remulak | March 5, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

I can’t wait to vote for Obama in the PA primary. After all, he’s a homeboy from Chicago, and he has been unfairly lynched by Rush Limbaugh, just like me! Can he win the big one, though?

Posted by: Donovan McNabb | March 5, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

Perhaps the Democrat candidates and their supporters might wish to read Mitt Romney’s terrific speech given about religious freedom and its place in America.
Romney went through the same thing Obama is going through, he was also attacked out of the race on the basis of his religious affiliation however he rose to the occasion by delivering ideals greater than simple-minded bigotry.

Posted by: syn | March 5, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Hillary is facing a hard fight. It will be a long climb up the mountain to the nomination. Obama preaches his message of hope and waits for the elevator!!

Posted by: onenibble | March 5, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

It is so sad so see many of the bloggers spewing out such hatred. The sad aspect is that many of them call themselves Christian. Christianity as I know it and I dare any of them to prove me wrong, preaches forgivenss for those we consider as our enemies.
We were also instructed in the bible which all of us christians called the words of God “that we should not judge others”. May the Good Lord help us all to see beyond our collective hatred and bigotry.

Posted by: omonoda | March 5, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

I notice that a number of Clinton supportive posts slam not only Obama, but his supporters as well. Which only serves to validate Obama’s point that the Clinton’s polarizing politics quickly devolves from negative attacks on the candidate to attacks on his followers.
The smug superiority of both the Clinton campaign and some of their supporters is nearly insufferable. Why can’t you accept that Obama’s supporters have valid reasons for supporting Obama. Yes, Hillary has a good memory for reciting a laundry list of policy points. Do you really think that she can deliver that level of specificity in actual legislation if she were president? Quite frankly, her presentation is way more naive than she claims Obama is being. Elected presidents never get their entire legislative package passed in its original form, so it could actually be a negative to be overly in love with one’s own policy minutiae. This got Hillary Clinton in trouble with health care.
Obama voters believe in his intelligence, his judgment, his disposition, his character, and his greater potential to unify the country and win a mandate for change that would drive a legislative agenda.
If you support Hillary Clinton, that’s fine. Just don’t slam Obama or his supporters.

Posted by: Gene L | March 5, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

Obama said he was never been a muslim.
The truth is when he was a young kid he used to live in Indonesia with his mother and his step father.
His step father is a muslim.
Obama went to muslim school in Jakarta, Indonesia’s capital city for a while.
This school is still exist in Jakarta.
The school requires all the students read KORAN atleast 2 hours a day.
I don’t care about people religions but I don’t like people lie.I think Obama should tell the truth.
We all know he is now Christian but it doesn’t mean he has never been a muslim.

Posted by: crisis08 | March 5, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

At least Obama supporters aren’t as bad a Ron Paul supporters were.

Posted by: Gabe | March 5, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

There we go again… ignorants fools still exist in this country. Obama has a Moslem ancestors and so what!!!..It is this fear mongering tactics and arrogance that Clintons have that is why Americans are hated in the world.
Obama is a Christian!!!!..simple as that..
We need to talk about issues and Clinton needs to stop using fear and racist tactics in this game.
Obama all the way.. We are and will be behind you..
God bless America and President Obama

Posted by: aurelia | March 5, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

um crisis08, the school does still exists but has no religious requirements.

Posted by: Louis | March 5, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Sen. Obama has more delegates that his opponent, that means most Americans are smart, unbiased and centered. For those racists: GET LOST! Because of people like you, it is hard to be proud of America. God bless Sen.Obama!

Posted by: carmen | March 5, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Barack Obama’s Grandmother Says,
Obama is “Not A Muslim.” He inherited the middle name only. I think it’s pretty safe to say, she probably knows more about their lives than anyone.
oh yes, the T-shirt incident, Staffers may be paying him off as we speak. Hillary will of course pretend to disapprove, now that the stories gone to every corner of the map. All these dirty tactics have nothing to do with what people are calling “a good strong fighter” but everything to do with how low the bar has gotten for morals, integrity and standards. If it doesn’t matter how we get what we want, then it’s time to release our prisoners. Many of them are “good strong fighters too.”

Posted by: LMC | March 5, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

Nick Danger, crawl from out under that rock and get a clue. If you turn on your local news or read news papers, all the people who will be killed in your local town, city or state will be done so by somebody who probably calls themselves a Christian. And need I remind you that every last person who ever enslaved, lynched or turned water hoses and dogs on my ancestors in this great nation, did so with a Bible in the other hand. Christianity has long been the banner waved for many “Crimes Against Humanity”. Hitler called himself a Christian and believed he was doing God’s will. And I’m not going to go into all of those child molestation cases in the Catholic churches. You probably think they are all Muslims in disguise. But hey, I don’t hold this against you and the insular world that you live. I strive to look at people on the basis of “their” character, not someone elses. Wake up!

Posted by: Marie | March 5, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

Thank you Marie!

Posted by: So Sad | March 6, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am

To all Barack Obama supporters who are so upset that their idol did not win again in the big states..I have to say please stop demonizing Clinton for your candidate’s failure to finish off the job…It’s so crystal clear that he can’t do it…inspite of the big momentum brought about by iconic votes, he just could not do the job..something is wrong here , how on earth can a front runner figure like Obama who was installed there in the first place by feverishly emotional voters and supporters not finish the job?

Posted by: Henry | March 6, 2008, 4:34 am 4:34 am

Ok so yes everyone is in LOVE with Obama that is GREAT if he were say a ROCK star, but he is in fact running for president the highest office in the land. Forget his Muslim background (if he is lying why what are his plans) forget color (not important)but he was just a freshman senator that is it. What has he done? Hillary, dont like her, but at least she has been to the Whitehouse. McCain war hero diplomacy junkets etc… experiance all around. It never amazes me how Liberals will tolorate anything corrupt to get their point accross to get something achieved. Clinton 1 was proven to be one of the most corruptable politicians in history, but because he was just so darn lovable well he is ok. But in all honesty what did he do? Anything anyone? Did he end slavery? nope Lincoln. open the west to China? nope Nixon. Was he the first president to have a Blackman as a guest in the White House? Nope Rosevelt (Teddy). Did he have the most Minorities in his office? Nope Reagan and Bush 2. So you Liebrals can keep giving yourselves these false accolades as much as you want but we know the truth of your history. The only reason why you are pushing Obama is that your party has a lot of explaining to do as far as accomplishments go and how you have and still do treat minorities and the poor. Because as we all know the poor (which I am) and the minorities (which I am) can not succeed with out your help and assistance which I find totally insulting. I can finnish school without your help I can find a job without your help I can survive with out you sticking your noses into every aspect of my life.

Posted by: Brian | March 6, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am

I believe that USA better get educated on just what it is that Islam follwers believe. In the eyes of the Islamic world Obama IS a Muslim! Once a Muslem ALWAYS a Muslim in the eyes of the followers of Islam. Otherwise he is worse then us Christians ( and followers of other creeds). We better wake up and get educated as just what the followers of Islam REALLY believe! Hillary’s friend has a RIGHT to POINT out some of the above mentioned facts! GET some real facts on what might be going on, BEFORE it IS to late for USA! GOD (Jehovah) BLESS the USA!

Posted by: A patriot | March 6, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am

Why does it matter if Obama is a muslim?
First of all it is basic Muslim belief that ALL nonmuslims are nonbelievers. They believe Sharia law superceeds all “Human” law that should and will eventually replace it. Under Sharia law unbelievers are, shall we say, second class. Women are second class and we won’t even talk about the fate of the Jews.
A supposed kitty, say Keith Ellison D MN, can call itself a tiger but to be true to the faith they have to become one. When we start to elect people that view our Contitution as a bad thing I get very scared.
Finally it doen’t matter if he was by any defiition a muslim. The policies the 2 Democrats are proposing are enough to scare the crap out of me.

Posted by: Terry Wolfe | March 6, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

What better way to bring down America than from within. Hussein Obama can say all he wants that he is NOT a muslim, but anyone with any brain cells at all can see thru this crap.
All Hussein Obama has to do is get the presidential nod and the muslims are in. Goodbye America.

Posted by: MarkK | March 6, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

I doubt that Hillary condones this sort of behaviour – but I doubt it bothers her mush if it helps her canpaign. She has a history of dirty politics to live up to – she is, after all, #1 on the Judicial Watch Corrupt politicians list.

Posted by: Eric | March 6, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

HRC not only condones but encourages this behavior, her staffers that forwarded the emails were not fired, only reassigned. Her staff that released the photo, no denial. Her comment that he is not a Muslim as far as she knows, completely calculated. Muslim is not a race. You are not born a muslim. He is not a muslim. For those so dimwitted to understand that, please, for the love of all that is America, do not vote, there are those of us in this country that take these things seriously.

Posted by: Louis | March 6, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

The issue is NOT that he is a Muslim. Religious freedom, tolerance and acceptance are very important and one should not vote against someone because of their religion. The issue is Obama is not telling the truth of his early years of childhood. Muslims consider children of male Muslims to be a Muslim. Why does Obama hide this fact? His entire family is Muslim, except his mother, who re-married when Obama was still a boy and now considers herself a Muslim. He should NOT be ashamed of his background. Today he is a proud and active Christian; that is great. We should accept and embrace Obama as a Christian, but he should not deny his past and certainly not be ashamed of it either.”

Posted by: elbaum | March 6, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

On behalf of the Clinton campaign I reject and denounce this fellow, who is obviously acting independently and distastefully, and has no relationhship with the campaign…
… as far as I know.

Posted by: maw | March 6, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

Obama is the only candidate with the JUDGEMNT to lead this country and unite us while we face challenges and obstacles in this country.
Hillary is dividing her OWN party, she is a divisive figure and that is the last thing this country needs…ESPECIALLY in the interest of national security.
The last time the Clintons had an opportunity to catch bin Laden in the 90′s, they were busy dividing the country back then with all their scandals, secrets and impeachment.
Obama is a WAY better candidate than Hillary.

Posted by: Robyn | March 6, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

As Obama supporters you have many things to attack Hillary on. Unfortunately you are focusing on stupid little things such as the T-shirt or hypothetical circumstances.
You have 20 years worth of scandals to attack her on illustrated with facts, and I’m not talking about going all the way back to the Little Rock days.
How come no one asks Hillary about Norman Hsu? I never heard fat-head Tim Russert ask her about that during any of the debates.
What about her thoughts on environmentally safe low-sulfur clean burning coal? I would love to hear an answer.
I bet none of you here even know the significance of low sulfur coal and how it relates to the Clintons.
Yes in these days of Saudi $105 per barrel oil dependency, we the good ole USA under Bill Clinton’s watch let a golden opportunity slip right through our hands.
Since the forum moderator for ABC likes to censor me, I can’t post the link so
copy and paste this phrase in google;
Clinton’s’ CoalGate INVESTORS BUSINESS DAILY
Then copy/paste this into google and start connecting the dots.
JAMES RIADY PLEADS GUILTY
Let’s see how long this post lasts

Posted by: Condor | March 7, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

I am from UK. Its very different here… we have 2 million Muslims, and 68 % want Islamic law introduced to replace British Law. Even the head of our Christian church wants if for Muslims. I do not know If Senator Obama supports Islam but I think if he wins the democrat cadidate then the Republicans will the election. I just cannot imagine a US president having a name so simillar to Osama the public enemy number one. I just hope America learns that at least in the rest of the world Islam wants dreadful things for its people. Kiss freedom goodbye.

Posted by: Chris Robinson UK | March 8, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

Look, the shirt was bad but come on.
i know todd and he is a great friend of mine and he is a very well educated voter. Also obama has no experience, plus tell me 1 thing he acomplished in the senate. Look Todd dosent soport hillary either he just hates obama so much that he wanted hillary to win the primeary even if McCaine doesent win who he wants most. All you Obama suporters need to wake up.

Posted by: Go todd | March 9, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

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