Democratic Party Official: Clinton Pursuing ‘The Tonya Harding Option’
l just spoke with a Democratic Party official, who asked for anonymity so as to speak candidly, who said we in the media are all missing the point of this Democratic fight.
The delegate math is difficult for Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, the official said. But it’s not a question of CAN she achieve it. Of course she can, the official said.
The question is — what will Clinton have to do in order to achieve it?
What will she have to do to Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, in order to eke out her improbable victory?
She will have to "break his back," the official said. She will have to destroy Obama, make Obama completely unacceptable.
"Her securing the nomination is certainly possible – but it will require exercising the ‘Tonya Harding option.’" the official said. "Is that really what we Democrats want?"
The Tonya Harding Option — the first time I’ve heard it put that way.
It implies that Clinton is so set on ensuring that Obama doesn’t get the nomination, not only is she willing to take extra-ruthless steps, but in the end neither she nor Obama win the gold.
(In this metaphor, presumably, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., would be Oksana Baiul. Does that make former President Bill Clinton Jeff Gillooly?)
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Posted by: Vanessa | March 25, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Speaking candidly? Then be a man and say it yourself. We already know Dean has screwed up the DNC.
Posted by: geevill | March 25, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
I used to think Hillary would have a meaningful and possibly brilliant career when she goes back to the Senate after being defeated for the presidential nomination. Not so much anymore. She’s already done irreparable damage to her own long-term career, by lying on such a massive scale that even her own friends are sick of it, and by adopting ever more offensive tactics in a campaign that she knows in her heart of hearts will not succeed. And if she thinks she can be nominated in 2012 after destroying the nominee in 2008, she’s got another think coming. Much more of this, and she will be a pariah in the Senate, and an embarrassing, painful footnote in political history. The clock is ticking.
Posted by: TKD | March 25, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
No, it is a question of whether the DNC will count the votes of millions of people from FL and MI. It is like refusing the count judges who rank Clinton higher.
Posted by: geevill | March 25, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
This race is close lets just see how the votes are cast who ever did not have the gumption to named is a low life Hillary has just as much right to stay until all votes are counted.
Posted by: Bishop | March 25, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Sad, but true.
Posted by: erica | March 25, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
I don’t think Hillary has to break his back; he’s doing a fine job at crippling himself…His personality fits who he is!!! His demeanor and tone fits who he is and his beliefs!!! His back was already broken when he entered this race!
Posted by: calif | March 25, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
And to think that Hillary has just had a 3-day pass to tailor the campaign to that of a quality candidate seeking election on her merits.
Instead, she chooses the Tonya Harding option.
I find the Clintons to be a sort of McCarthy/Nixon combo – typifying America’s brightest and best.
Posted by: Sara | March 25, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
Senator Clinton gets busted for a bald faced lie and what does she do? Resorts to the kitchen sink and brings up Obama’s pastor again during an interview. She is a pathetic excuse for a Presidential candidate. Thanks for ruining the Democratic party.
Posted by: IrishJim | March 25, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Bishop
Did you read what they said…
It is not whether Clinton has the “right” to run… It is at what expense to the party and therefore the nation.
and Geevil …Sen. Clinton “screwed up the DNC more than dean…
Vote for discounting votes when it only matters to the Florida and Michigan voters but then cause a huge stink and manipulate the situation to make it look like you are fighting for the voters…when in all actuality you are fighting for the votes…the votes YOU said not to count.
That is not how a government should be run.
Posted by: dl | March 25, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Why is Howard Dean being such a hardball with Florida & Michigan—Hillary will win—–Just let this move its course—It ain’t over until Florida and Michigan have something to say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: rogar | March 25, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
It’s all over but the shouting, and the shouting has begun. Looks like Obama won the nomination.
Posted by: John Powalski | March 25, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Not only does this make people not want to vote for Sen. Clinton for President…I have a feeling she is going to lose the state of New York.
Out with this crappy self-fulfilling egomaniacal crap.
They cost the party in 99 and now they are going to cost the party again.
Posted by: dl | March 25, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Why don’t we just let everybody vote first before jumping to conclusions about “evil” Hillary and her plans to steal the election…
Posted by: Missmadeleine2002 | March 25, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Break both knees what ever it takes to keep Omaba and his hate and anti-americian preacher out of the White House! If he is nominated Democrats have no chance against McCain! We must stop these radical liberals from hijacking this party and taking us down with them!
Posted by: russell | March 25, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
WOW!!!
A DNC Insider FINALLY speaks up!
Thank god…now, MAYBE, the Party can exorcist the Clinton demonic possession.
AWAY with HER!
Posted by: Carl | March 25, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
WOW!!!
A DNC Insider FINALLY speaks up!
Thank god…now, MAYBE, the Party can exorcise the Clinton demonic possession of the Party.
AWAY with HER!
Posted by: Carl | March 25, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
IrishJim: Hillary did not “bring up” the Wright issue in the interview. She was asked a direct, personal question and she answered it from a personal perspective. Period.
Posted by: cappamore | March 25, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
It looks like the DNC insiders are trying to avoid the blame for the fiasco THEY created. Clinton did not create this problem. The out of touch liberal leaning arm of the Democratic party just couldn’t accept Hillary Clinton as there nominee. Give me a break. This is damage control. Obama is unelectable in the general election and the DNC knows it. They have painted themselves into a corner and now they are trying to distance themselves from probable loss in the general election that should have been an almost non-contested win.
Posted by: mhhunt | March 25, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
This is the problem, other people like this DNC guy (who is afraid to be id’d) keep stirring the pot. They need to all just back off and let things play out as they should. Bad as things seem to be getting, a good airing of both candidates is what this country really needs. Sen. Obama was pretty naive if he thought Sen. Clinton was just going to bow and get out of his way. I say again that if the press had done their job earlier in the primary season, a lot of this mess wouldn’t be happening now.
Posted by: dwc | March 25, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
i just read part of obamas first book and it helps put things in perspective,he hung out with and sought out in his words marxist professors,punk rock poets and ultra radical feminists.kinda explains why he would seekout ayers and a radical black sepratist minister,this shows the leapords true spots.I AM A DEMOCRAT however i would not vote for this man to be dogcatcher,especially now with the economy in this state.do you really want to take a chance that he is not a middle of the road unifier but rather a extremist by his own words in disguise.if he is true to his earlier beliefs he could do insumountable harm to this country and i am not willing to take that chance the party be dammed.
Posted by: don tufts | March 25, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
Gee, I have been saying this for weeks,glad to know that the DNC is right on top of things!
This has been the Clinton plan all along. If she can’t have it, she wants her buddy McCain to get the job. That has been her message (and Bill’s) for weeks now. Nice to know the press is right on the ball as per usual…
Posted by: disgusted | March 25, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Does she not even think at all? When she knee caps or back breaks Obama and then loses to McCain.. they are both going back to the Senate. They both are going to have to work with each other. Does she not even think that these tactics may not work out in her favor?
Posted by: Brett | March 25, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
A long history of lies: “The independent counsel Robert Ray has concluded that Hillary Rodham Clinton was ”factually false” in sworn testimony about her role in the firing of seven members of the White House travel staff in 1993″.
Is being factually false similar to misspoke?
Posted by: IrishJim | March 25, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
The DNC needs to figure out a way to stop this now; before Hillary becomes the spokesperson for the RNC. Blame Dean if you like, but it’s the Clintons who are destroying the party. Mike Huckabee has a lot more class and understanding than she ever will be capable of. She remains silent, is caught in a lie (one she told just after ridiculing Sinbad for questioning her story) and decides it’s a good time to resurrect the Reverend Wright story…
Posted by: Lauren1959 | March 25, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Disgusted: At least John McCain loves his country!
Posted by: russell | March 25, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
From where I’m sitting, as a Democrat, it is the the Democratic National Committee that has missed the point, and continues to be blind to their own screw up regarding Florida nad Michigan. They have boxed themselves into a corner and have no way out.This race, to we the grassroots Democrats, is as close as any in history. The voters in Florida and Michigan need to be heard. And why on earth should the Democratic nominee NOT be decided at the convention?? IS that not what it is for??? (Other than you officials giving yourselves some great parties).
It is our DNC Party leaders need to be replaced. Clinton is doing what half of the Democrats in this country have asked her to do – fight for us and fight for herself.
Posted by: Nancy in the NW | March 25, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
You might call it the Susan Smith option….to throw out the baby with the bathwater so to speak….
Posted by: DaveE | March 25, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
This is just some stupid official wanting his 5 minutes’ opinion. And of course, abc just had to spin it and run with it as hard as they could. Obama will destroy himself without her help. And if the Democratic Party can’t withstand a hard fight between two determined candidates with almost equal support, they its time for a third party to be formed. I hope all you calling Sen. Clinton such as “low life” ‘Liar” “Sleazy” etc don’t grow up and teach your kids such disrespect. You will reap what you sow.
Posted by: Oldgaman | March 25, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Jake
Why didnt you call this person out (Pelosi) an tell them obama is doing this all on own. ex: typical white person, wright, I didnt hear these comments but 3 days later yes I may have heard these but didnt say anything.
Plus why have 48 states voting if you only want the first ones to count.
Posted by: toby | March 25, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
what will happen when the dems lose the black vote in this country? well – get ready for a generation of republican presidents, supreme court appointments and the wealthier getting richer!
Posted by: aer | March 25, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
When the fight began everyone agreed that Florida and Michigan would not count. The rules were set.
Now, that the fight is just about finished, you want to cry and say the rules, that everyone agreed to, are unfair, and you want them changed. Suck it up, Florida and Michigan aren’t going to be seated. figure out how to cheat another way.
Posted by: bob | March 25, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
DaveE: Or maybe it’s the throw grandma under the bus strategy that Obama perfected!!
Posted by: russell | March 25, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
why does anyone care anymore? obama is a leftist with no experience that chooses to hang around black separatists. Hillary is liar with no experience.
So we get McCain… which is exactly what everyone wants. He’s a centrist who has gone out of his way to work both sides of the aisle…
Why do you think Rush Limbaugh hates him? Because he can work and has worked with those on the left. He can actually bring people together.
Posted by: Bryan | March 25, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
This is the fundamental problem with Clinton supporters; they feel the rules don’t apply to Hillary.
Michigan and Florida chose to break the rules of the Party for their own self-aggrandizement and deserve the punishment they knew was forthcoming.
Hillary wouldn’t care less about the votes if she wasn’t losing by every method of measurement.
Posted by: Not_THAT_Woman | March 25, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
I think you meant Nancy Kerrigan and not Oksana……
Posted by: Jojo | March 25, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
I have repeated time and time again, Hillary Clinton is an obsessive compulsive and will go to any extremes to win this election. In essence, she is nothing more than a stalker, stalking the presidency like a jilted lover and if she can’t have him, nobody can.
Posted by: Nuclear Midnight | March 25, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
I have suspected this for some time. Hillary WANTS McCain to win if she is not the Democratic nominee. She figures if Obama wins, he will run for re-election in 2012, so she can’t be the nominee then. After he leaves office, his vice president will presumably be a strong contender, so 2016 will be hard for her, too. There is no question of “if” she is going to use the Tonya Harding option. It’s coming.
Posted by: Max | March 25, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
“I AM A DEMOCRAT however i would not vote for this man to be dogcatcher,especially now with the economy in this state.”
Posted by: don tufts | Mar 25, 2008 4:19:51 PM
Come on now, Don. I’ve no doubt that Obama would make a fine dog catcher.
Hillary ’08
Posted by: beany1 | March 25, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
anonymity: the prograssive media mantra…Wait until people become aware of his socialistic mandate… or his fine County of Cook being the most heavily taxed and corrupt municipality in the country
Posted by: JACK | March 25, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
She thinks if she can just win the nomination the media will get behind her and the rest will fall in line… Can she talk you into this?
Posted by: Krankcase | March 25, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Thats the difference between Repubs and Dems. When Repubs make rules..they follow them. Repubs would say you know the rules..screw you..you break the rules..you pay the price. Dems say..oh geesh.they broke the rules..well um..we need to work this out..WORK THIS OUT??! Work what out. Those states knew the penalty and should not have violated the rule if they were not prepared to face the penalty
Posted by: Wayne | March 25, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
This is actually what I had feared. One of the senior Dem senators had mentioned that getting her to give up the nomination is like trying to pry something out of a dead person’s hands. This is her life ambition and she’s ready to take down anything that stands in her way – whether its her Democratic opponent or the Democratic party itself. There is no level which is too low, no tactic too nasty to achieve her goal.
She’s succeeded in driving independants like myself to vote for McCain if she’s the Democratic nominee. She’s the one person who can galvanize the Republicans (even the conservatives)to rally around and vote for McCain if it means keeping her out of the White House.
The Republicans are hoping she keeps up with these tactics and is the nominee – they have enough dirt on her to convince their party-goers to vote against her.
Posted by: Nathan | March 25, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
On saying last week that she landed under sniper fire during a trip to Bosnia in 1996, when she was first lady:
“I was sleep-deprived, and I misspoke.”
Now she was too tired to tell the truth. Does this woman have any scruples?
Posted by: IrishJim | March 25, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
The affiliation with the conservative prayer group makes Hillary a more sympathic figure. Nonetheless I don’t trust Obama or the Clintons.
Posted by: althusius | March 25, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
IrishJim
why must she avoid that topic it is out there. if the obama camp didnt resort to all the nasty stuff first maybe should would leave it alone.
Posted by: toby | March 25, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Nancy Kerrigan would be Obama in the analogy you fool. Oksana won the gold that year.
Posted by: joebob | March 25, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Wow! Hearing stuff like this really motivates me to get out may wallet immediately and contribute to Obama… again. This selfish, meanspirited, evil behavior exemplifies the unprincipled, unscrupulous, and divisiveness that Hillary and Bill employ to “get their way.” A couple of real political lowlifes. I pray to God these two sick devils get their long overdue payback.
Posted by: Daveed | March 25, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Rolling on floor laughing here….
The stars were all lined up for a Democrat White House victory in 2008. How amusing it is for me to see the party that was hijacked by the wacko left self destruct in front of my very eyes. What a great show to watch.
Right now it looks like McCain is the “sure thing”. Forget 2008. Who you gonna run in 2012?
Posted by: David | March 25, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Hillbill going nuclear? What a suprise. Lets see those tax records and see how much was made selling out
Posted by: jdmccl | March 25, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
I tend to agree Hillary will do anything to win the nomination. Too bad Obama doesn’t have the gonads to throw dirt like her, right? Isn’t that what most Americans expect? More dirt. Their silly fighting has switched my vote to that other incompetent named McCain.
Posted by: Robert Stiles | March 25, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
HILLARY STEALS IT, LOSES TO MCCAIN, DESTROYS THE DEM PARTY FOREVER. SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PLAN STRAIGHT FROM A DEVIL.
Posted by: BLACKMANVISION | March 25, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
I hope that after this the Democrats get rid of super delagates, they are obviously more a problem than any kind of solution.
Posted by: vermontfudge | March 25, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
by not allowing FL and MI votes, the DNC is putting Clinton in a spot and giving OBAMA a silver spoon.
No way can OBAMA win the national election after the church news.
Clinton keep fighting. You will get nominated. No need to back off.
Posted by: GS | March 25, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
As I remember it, Oksana Baiul was one heck of a skater
Posted by: Roger Ocala | March 25, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
This unnamed person name doesnt rhyme with elosi? does it?
Posted by: toby | March 25, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
the clintons think they are the party.look at them. they care nothing for anything except themselves and the power this election will give them.
Posted by: kmg | March 25, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
This has been pretty obvious and it is of no surprise. When you endorse a Republican candidate over a member of your own party, you’re a pretty despicable person and it does not bode well for your political future within the Democratic party.
Posted by: tiger | March 25, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
The Clintons resortign to any means to win an election?!?! I can’t beleive it!!! As a Republican, I am just sitting back and laughing at all of these Democrats finally understanding what we said about the Clintons for 8 years. They will lie, manipulate, bribe, cheat and steal to keep their power. Welcome to the party Democrats, I am glad you finally woke up and smelled the Clintons!!!
Posted by: Tom | March 25, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
don tufts, you might want to look up hillary’s thesis from wellesley. it was on saul allinsky, a famous radical organizer. it was not an expose – more like a tribute, if you like the people hillary has been influenced by, you might like one of his books: Rules for Radicals. he also influenced a generation of community organizers – including obama. but obama doesn’t lie about it, or pretend to be a republican when it suits him. is there anything the clintons don’t lie about?
Akenyele – Thank you for posting that Huckabee quote.
Posted by: Mara | March 25, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
If Clinton can’t win in 2008, then she can set the conditions for 2012.
… President McCain will be stuck with Iraq, and she can use her expanded role in the Senate to say “See, I told you so!”
Posted by: Sam | March 25, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Mike huckabee might have said that but that doesn’t make it so…A very few of these loud mouthed rabble rousers have ever sat in the back of the bus, ate in the balcony or any of these other things you talk about…There is a lot of things they have done though, like selling dope, car jacking, robbing banks and looting…They use every excuse to riot, pilfer and break the law…lets talk about that a bit..
Posted by: carl alan | March 25, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Slick Barry: Oh my goodness, you’re so clever!! Nobody will suspect what you’re trying to do on this blog…you’re so smart. LMAO!
I understand Clinton supporters wanting their candidate to win, but enough is enough folks. I ask all her supporters to send her a letter, pleading with her to put an end to her disgusting tactics. She doesn’t have to quit the race, just quit her gross tactics.
Posted by: Austin | March 25, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Doesn’t Hillary realize she IS ALREADY VIEWED as the Tonya Harding of politics. She has proven time and time again that she will do anything, say anything to get her way.
Posted by: Scott | March 25, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
And this is the Hillary Clinton that said the only thing that should matter are the american ppl……She is hypocritical, selfish, and self centered. Anybody who supports her supports lying, cheating, stealing, deceptiveness, and all the other negative garbage that she carries!!!
The next thing you know she will be telling the world that Barak Obama needs to get out because he is bringing the party down and she is the only one who can beat John McCain…..Hillary is delusional, and full of herself….along with being a racist!!! She doesn’t give a damn about her party or the American ppl!!
Posted by: Heather | March 25, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Now Hillary is assisting in Operation Chaos. I love it.
Posted by: Chris | March 25, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Everyone seems to be working under the idea that there is any possibility that the Clintons would follow the rules. They never have before. I guarantee you that if Hillary could get take away the supposed black separatist vote from Obama she’d be on the front pew of Wright’s church every Sunday. The worst part is that the real losers in all of this are the American people.
Posted by: Holli | March 25, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
It continuing as is, We will see John and Cindy McCain walking the inaugeration path with George W. and Laura next January.
These people just don’t get it.
Posted by: iSPEC | March 25, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Its the Dem leadership’s fault–this acrimony exists because neither of them is a particularly compelling choice. On one side we have a relatively inexperienced Senator with a history of being a bad administrator, whose basic message is “I’m supposed to be President.” On the other we have, well, a relativley inexperienced Senator with no history at all, whose basic message is “I’m supposed to be President.” Since neither of them is strong enough to run on their own merits, they’re both desperate to run the other guy into the ground to convince the party that they’ve got what it takes.
Granted, McCain is also a least-of-many-evils candidate, but he’s much more electable.
Posted by: CppThis | March 25, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Most Dangerous Woman on the face of our planet!! She will stop at nothing! I love the recent “Bosnia” story where CBS shows Hillary doing what Hillary does best….LIE! Check it out on U-Tube or Drudge Report.
Posted by: Greg Browning | March 25, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Better that she destroy him, then let him destroy the country….
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | March 25, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Why is anyone beating on Hillary? She is going by the rule of DNC. Why should she be forced out?
DNC should look to change the rule in the future if they do not like, and should not try to force Hillary out now.
This soap opera makes my life worth living, LOL.
Posted by: Nancy | March 25, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Why would hitting Obama on the knee with a crowbar do anything to his candidacy?
Posted by: Paul | March 25, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Don’t you just LOVE It when democrats say It’s Somebody Else’s Fault that the Florida & Michigan votes won’t count? Seems like the people in those two states just don’t know the meaning of the word.. RULES!
On one hand you have Obama sitting in a church for 20 years without a CLUE that his Pastor is a nut job and on the other hand you have Hillary bragging about taking Sniper Fire! Ooops! didn’t happen :)
It’s a disgrace that either one of these people is in the Senate!
Posted by: John Galt | March 25, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
wonderful. I want another 1968 this year. this party needs to be brought down and who better then the clintons!
Posted by: craig | March 25, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Hillary needs to end her campaign. She can’t win and she’s going to take us all down with her. Vote for Obama.
Posted by: julie | March 25, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
David…I’m with you. Will someone pass the popcorn?
Posted by: TxnByBrth | March 25, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Just as they always have – they care for only themselves. They could care less for the democratic party if it gets in the way of what they want. Ask anyone who has known them. They are the ultimate users.
Posted by: VinnieB | March 25, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
In short, everybody who said that it is CLINTON who is destroying the party and this year’s election was RIGHT.
Where are those fools who support her with their big mouths now? Miserable idiots.
Posted by: Harko | March 25, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Obama can not be beaten with conventional weapons. This situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody’s part. The Clinton team are just the guys to do it.
Posted by: Jeff, Florida | March 25, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Operation Chaos in full swing. Stay tuned for more of Rush to Excellence.
Obambi and The Ice Queen…two inevitable failures. Pass the popcorn.
This Democrat implosion is a spectacular specticle. We have ‘monsters’, Wright racists, McCarthy, Judas…and that is just the past two weeks. Rush, you’re a genuis!
Posted by: Matt | March 25, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Wow, just read that Obama Hussein and his lovely wife who was never proud of America gave a whoppin 1% to charity despite a couple of million earnings. I’m so proud of him.
Posted by: Kim Estrada | March 25, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
If anyone cripples obama in the gen it’s the media. Hillary supporters won’t reward them for their slanted media coverage. We’ll vote McCain.
Posted by: If not Hillary, then McCain | March 25, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
The Clintons care only about the Clintons; nothing else. Not the people, not the Democratic Party. They care only about power and money, and money and power, and will do ANYTHING to attain both. They are evil, evil people.
Posted by: Don | March 25, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
If I’ve said this once, I’ve said it a million times:
IF THERE IS A WAY TO LOSE THIS ELECTION, THE DEMOCRATS WILL FIGURE IT OUT!
After 7 years of George Bush and John McCain supporting George Bush, the Dems should be walking into the White House…instead, they’ll be sitting on the sidlines, again, period. Dumb, dumb, dumb…Hillary, give it up, please….for the good of what you claim to love.
Posted by: Herm | March 25, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Glad the DNC finally is catching on to what most of us have known for sometime. Hillary has decided that either she wins the nomination and she and Bill maintain control of the Democratic party or the party loses. I think this is the sense of entitlement that Bill Richardson alluded to a few days ago. I suspect he was speaking for a number of key superdelegates when he made that statement. What a selfish, entitled, primadonna couple the Clintons are. Go away.
Posted by: mg | March 25, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Hillary is following rules of the DNC no one has reached the magic number and the fight continues.
More oever there is no caucus in Nov election and OBAMA’s nation of islam and other revolutionary guards cannot come and take over the caucuses.
Keep fighting Hillary.
Posted by: GS | March 25, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
The Clintons and their lies are not worth the time to write these notes. She cannot accept the fact that 75% of America does not want her in the WH, and she and Bill are acting the parts of absolute babies. Well Hil…it is over, and you have already lost. Time for the crying towel …. waahaa, waahaa..
Posted by: C.Myles | March 25, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
There is no question that Hillary knew that the states of Florida and MI wouldn’t count- but now that she is losing she is fighting for their “rights” to break the rules. If the DNC allows there votes to count, there be utter chaos next election time= I mean, why bother having rules?
I went into this on the fence, then as an Obama supporter that would vote for Hillary if she were the candidate. After her behavior during this campaign I will not only not vote for her, but I will become an unaffiliated voter if somehow she becomes the candidate.
She has had a sense of entitlement throughout the process. She has been dishonest about her experience…and even worse,
she has had more respect for the republican candidate than her fellow democratic candidate AND HIS SUPPORTERS.
Posted by: Nicole | March 25, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
To the Clinton supporters that say they wouldn’t vote for Obama, you crack me up. Are you guys trying to stay on message that McCain should be President? Please don’t be sore losers, we need to work together so WE CAN change this country. Do you really want Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton or Bush-Clinton-Bush-McBush? If you are a yellowbelly the Democratic party doesn’t need you. No matter what the outcome of the primaries I WILL BE VOTING DEMOCRAT!
Posted by: Jacob | March 25, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Just vote for Ron Paul. These other fools in the races are just tools of globalists anyway.
Posted by: Mike | March 25, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
If it weren’t for Obama, Hillary would be getting away with the same old stuff and everyone would still be covering for her.
Posted by: SuziQ | March 25, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
President Obama or President McCain it will not be President Hillary Clinton. It is over except for Hillary’s Gang for Power! It is 2012 now or never!
Posted by: Agmines | March 25, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Is anyone really surprised by this revelation? Journalists and Obamacrats have been clammering for Hillary to drop out for a few weeks now, because the delegate math doesn’t work for her. So why does she stay in the race? I’m no rocket scientist, but clearly SHE THINKS SHE HAS SOMETHING ON HIM THAT WILL DESTROY HIS CAMPAIGN.
Is anyone surprised?
Posted by: Jay Nickell | March 25, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Most Dangerous Woman on the face of our planet!! She will stop at nothing! I love the recent “Bosnia” story where CBS shows Hillary doing what Hillary does best….LIE! Check it out on U-Tube or Drudge Report.
Posted by: Greg Browning | March 25, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
More myth creation from Team Clinton. Never is it mentioned just how she can “destroy” Obama. As far as I can tell Team Obama are the one’s prepared for a long nomination battle. All candidates have trying moments and test. The Obama campaign has been more impressive as each day passes. He handles Sen. Clinton with ease, rises to the occasion regarding perceived skeletons in his closet, finds the appropriate time to recharge during the battle, secures key endorsements from credible Clinton allies and appointees, and doesn’t complain about needing to exceed expectations to claim the nomination. Obama is running for president people.
Posted by: Martymar | March 25, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
althusius: You said: “On saying last week that she landed under sniper fire during a trip to Bosnia in 1996, when she was first lady:
“I was sleep-deprived, and I misspoke.”
Now she was too tired to tell the truth. Does this woman have any scruples?”
Good point. Makes me think that if she got a 3 a.m. call, she might “misspeak”. How comforting for our security………….
Posted by: Momsedo | March 25, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
I rather have a fighter on the top than a guy who is so confused who he reallyis!! black or white? liberal or non-liberal? has a judgment or no judgment?
At least Her highness thinks she is the real Queen…
In the meantime, it’s fun to watch a political, real life Soap Opera.
Posted by: frieda | March 25, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Obama is a liberal democrat.
Clinton is a liberal democrat.
There are only 2 reasons to be a liberal democrat: Be crooked or stupid.
What else do you need to know?
I think it is hilarious, hope they keep it up!
Posted by: CC Ryder | March 25, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
This is sort of a ridiculous commentary, really. Everyone knows both candidates have already used all of their “tricks”. Hillary does not possess some secret arsenal, at least not one of the kind spoken of here.
Posted by: Seth Patinkin | March 25, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Not all of us drank the kool aid on Obama. While you spineless Dems keep calling on one or the other to drop out. All I remember is how John Kerry refused to fight. Not only that was the good soldier and fell on his sword, refusing to challenge the voter fraud like he said he would. The Skull and Bonesman did his job.
Obama frankly has been spoiled his runs for office, suing people off of the rolls and now he expects to shame them with a fraudulant Superdelegate count. Newsflash, you can’t make the cut without them either! So far all I’ve heard out of the Superdelegate camp is what a racist extortion artist this man is if bribes don’t work. Uncle Tom, Uncle Charlie (which I never heard before this), and threats to target and unseat them, have greeted the black Superdelegates.
The man repeatedly proves he has no honor! I refuse to support him in the general. The DNC better understand not everyone votes in the primary and their little games could take out their chance at the White House.
Obama’s team is such a fool to paint McCain and Hillary with the same brush, because what is to stop all those Hillary supporters from agreeing with him?
Biting the hands that will pull the lever in the voting booth isn’t a logic plan.
Posted by: No Obama for this Dem | March 25, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
A cowardly, anonymous Democratic Party official makes a stupid statement, and you put it on your blog. Is there any possibility in your mind that Obama is being hurt by his judgements of the last 20 years. Did Hillary make him sit in the pews, join that church, accept $250,000 from REZKO? As always, Obama is the victim in your analysis.
Posted by: svsolis | March 25, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
It’s a good thing they didn’t say she would “Linda Tripp” Obama!!
Posted by: Chukkal | March 25, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
I can not believe the Democratic party leaders are standing on the sidelines while these statements come out.
Either they don’t care about the party or they are terrified of the Clintons.
America needs leaders. It’s time for the Democratic party leaders to realize this
Posted by: Julie | March 25, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Bishop .. the race is NOT close. That’s the problem. There are a slew of delegate counters out there so I suggest you try them out. Even if Hillary wins every remaining primary by a minimum of 20 points, she’s still behind in:
1. Number of states won
2. Total popular votes
3. Pledged delegates
That’s how wide the difference is. So, it’s not really close and it might be, but even that is doubtful.
The problem is that all this stuff going on in the last week has done 1 thing: enhance McCain’s candidacy. Neither HRC or BHO are picking up votes in their squabble and it is hurting whichever one makes it to the general election.
Posted by: Eddie | March 25, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
I know this has probably been said, but don’t you think that is a personal insult to Tonya Harding’s good name comparing her with senator Clinton?
Posted by: Jeff | March 25, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
So we now have Democrats from low and hi bringing up the Scandals, foibles, and outright lies the Clinton’s have been doing for decades. We now have the Media (CBS no less) rushing to air their tapes that show the Clinton’s in their true lite.
A decade ago, everything being brought up today was discounted as the machinations of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy trying to bring down a good and honerable President.
Today, those very same Democrats are admitting that the Republicans were right about the Clintons all along.
Posted by: KellyJ | March 25, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Now Hillary, who was in favor of abolishing the electoral college, after the GOP “stole” the 2000 election, wants it to count OVER AND ABOVE the popular vote? You just can’t make this stuff up. The only better idea is if Ted Kennedy (pound for pound our most entertaining Senator)were in the mix somehow. Just for the singing.
Posted by: RJ | March 25, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Mendacious:- intentionally untrue; “a mendacious statement”; false – not in accordance with the fact or reality or actuality; “gave false testimony under oath”; “false tales of bravery”
Posted by: jason | March 25, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
In all fairness to both candidates, the re-votes were not particularly blocked by Sen. Obama’s campaign — they were blocked by Republican majorities in both state legislatures who let the bills die before they reached a vote.
Posted by: Kevin | March 25, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Let’s give Hillary the benefit of the doubt. Bullets whistling over your head while you duck, protecting your chid…hey, anyone could simply forget that happening to them. It is an honest mistake. She forgot. It happens all the time.
Now out will come the cornered rat. We shall see how hard she bites. We have the liar versus the whitey-hating racist. Welcome, President McCain.
Posted by: Peter Hyatt | March 25, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Hey, all you Obama people, what about how Hillary, under fire, stormed the beaches of Kosovo. Does Barrack have that kind of military experience? HMMMMMM?
Posted by: Kim Estrada | March 25, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Hillary knows it was true because she read it in her own book!!!!!
Posted by: myze | March 25, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Has anyone ever thought that the media likes Obama because his people aren’t calling and THREATENING them like the Clintons have?
BTW, Massense, Obama didn’t block ANYTHING in FL and MI. It was decided by the state legislatures. MORE LIES.
Posted by: Nicole | March 25, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Florida and MI
This is what happens when liberal great ideas are adopted.
And they want us to let them be president? What happened when you let them take control of the Congress – did they end the war??? NO – LIARS!!!!!
Posted by: Bob | March 25, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
All of the candidates will do anything to win.
Barrack Obama plays the race card.
Hillary Clinton plays the gender card.
John McCain plays the POW card.
Obama lies about what he heard his pastor say then recants. Hillary lies about being shot at in Bosnia then recants. McCain says stay in Iraq 100 years then recants.
These are politicians not saints. There is a media bias in this race as there always has been since the first televised debate. Do not annotate one of these candidates and be blinded by the truth. They are all in it for themselves. Do not be fooled.
Posted by: FL Resident | March 25, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Since when is playing by the rules and fighting to the finish considered bad form?
To answer the question, its considered bad form by the person trying to beat you – and this includes the Probama media machine.
Posted by: Sabado C Hady | March 25, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Operation chaos only ends when Rus allows it to be ended. Don’t flatter yourself, Vanessa.
Posted by: mtr2311 | March 25, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
the absolute best thing that could happen would be hillary stealing the election from obama. the victim mentality in the dem party would run wild…riots and fires at a brokered convention. thus is the value system of dems
Posted by: perfect storm | March 25, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
It could be worse. Hillary might try to pull the “Vince Foster option” on Barrack Obama.
Posted by: smearjay | March 25, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
It’s time for Hillary to go nuclear. Release the story of Obama’s drug dealing days. Loose the hounds. ;)
Posted by: The voice of Reason | March 25, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
I once was Hillary’s supporter but I changed to Obama.
I have seen that Hillary is inhumane, evil and diabolic. She knows that she can not get the nomination but she just want to tear down the Democratic party and fight by all evil means to make sure that Obama too fail to get the nomination. I have heard people saying Hillary Clinton is the most diabolic political woman in America. Now I can see it. Her hateful motion is just to destroy the Demo party and Senator Obama
Posted by: Chelse | March 25, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
I’m not surprised after listening to a conference call between reporters and Phil Singer and Wolfson, they STILL CANNOT LET GO of Florida and Michigan, LOL. I think that is HILLARIOUS! These fools are sooooo BITTER that Florida and Michigan are not going to revote and they are blaming Obama, LOL. Obama didn’t make the rules! Obama actually followed the rules.
Posted by: tiger | March 25, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Who was this? It sounds like Bill Bradley. It’s obviously not a neutral party.
It is the Obama campaign who has been willing to “Say Anything to Win,” from the start.
Obama and his camp have been the ones commiting the greatest Democratic sin – using Republican smears and tactics on the Clintons.
Hillary had high approval ratings in the Democratic party which she and Bill had earned with all their hard work -even enduring Republican attacks and smears – and now the Obama campaign is the uttermost hypocritical duplicitous Democratic campaign I have ever witnessed.
Obama is so truly far from any kind of new politics.
Hillary is a good woman who has devoted her life to public service, and has been unfairly attacked by her opponents all along.
Posted by: Lauren | March 25, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
I think it’s great that the scenario Howard Dean wished on the Republicans (chaos and a brokered convention) is playing out within his own party and he is doing absolutely nothing to prevent it. The DNC chose Dean as a compromise and now the campaigns, state parties (Florida and Michigan) and the DNC can not contain the damage and prevent their differences and insults from making consistent headlines. I love it, keep it up Dean, sit back and throw insults at McCain will you do absolutely nothing to prevent your party from imploding.
Posted by: adam | March 25, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Yep.
She’s gonna burn down the house before she lets Obama through the front door.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 25, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
DailyKOS? Huffington Post? Look at your sources people. Two of the more inept and plain crazy websites out there.
Hillary is a powermongering Socialist. Obama a good speaker with NO experience in almost ANY political forum.
Posted by: Jimmy | March 25, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Sad choices for both parties this year. Too bad the party leaders (both sides) are not much in touch with mainstream America. I would rather have seen Biden vs Romney, than having to choose between these 3 clowns.
Posted by: Larry | March 25, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Its over………
McCain won and we will never hear from the clintons and Obamas again.
Posted by: gate..texas | March 25, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Persio, you were with Hillary in Bosnia and you have learned a lot including being able to transform the kiss of a little Bosnian girl with a peom on PEACE into a sniper bullet. That is lovely. Hillary is finished, Hillary is done, she will not be the nominee, maybe a ticket McCain/Hillary is in the making with the RNC leadership, get ready to support that ticket. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | March 25, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
I have seen these tactics Hillary is using before. In the late 1400′s Vlad The Impaler employing a scorched earth policy, along with ambushes, night attacks, and the tactics of fear. He forced his his enemy to retreat but killed most of the towns people and left the lands barren.
Thanks Hillary for screwing us all just because you feel you and only you are entitled to be President!
Posted by: Sandy007 | March 25, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
I just love how you guys throw that “racist” word around (especially on each other)!! I am willing to bet none of you actually know the definition of racism. You just spout that crap because you have no other logical argument. I hope you tear each other apart!
Posted by: Nick | March 25, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Hillary’s plan is if she doesn’t win the nomination then she hopes McCain wins the white house. Then she’ll run again in 2012.
Posted by: candy | March 25, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Hillary knows it was true because she read it in her own book!!!!!
Posted by: myze | March 25, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Tonya Harding is the perfect metaphor for Hillary Clinton. Harding revealed herself to be insanely jealous of her rival and ruthless enough to inflict injury upon that rival so she could win. Not only did her bumbling henchmen try to break Nancy Kerrigan’s leg, Harding showed a pattern of lying, melodrama, anger, and blaming anything or anyone else besides herself for her problems and her shortcomings as a skater and human being.
In the end, Harding’s ignoble behavior only served to tarnish the sport, to increase sympathy and support for her rival, to serve as a distraction which allowed someone from another country to win the gold, and to ruin her career and her credibility permanently.
Harding was a very good skater with formidable strength, a talent for difficult jumps, and dogged persistance. But she went down in flames because of her overriding ambition, her poor judgement, her inability to accept or even see her own weaknesses, and her willingness to stoop to dishonorable tactics with little regard for the consequences.
If Senator Clinton doesn’t stop her Harding-esque behavior, John McCain will win the election in November and we’ll see Senator Clinton a few years from now on “The Rhymes-with-Rich Celebrity Boxing Spectacular.”
Posted by: jenny | March 25, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
It sems that almost everyone on this blog is against Hillary. In Pa. people believe she is the second coming of JFK. I hope she gets beat here, but it doesn’t look good.
Posted by: smuchpa | March 25, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Comments such as these from the Clinton camp are further evidence of what most real Democrats suspect. The Clintons — like most establishment DLC Democrats –are really Republicans. John Kerry wanted to lose. And the Clintons — unless they can get back in the White House to do the bidding of the Money Party that they represent — want the Democrats to lose too. They are trying to win the White House, and destroy the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Laura J. | March 25, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
That Hillary dog can’t hunt anymore. Her own Senatorial colleagues are looking at her as if she is the plague. She’ll never be trusted in the Senate. Her career is over.
Posted by: Joris | March 25, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Lou writes that “Clinton and Clinton alone has made clear she wants the party to support whatever candidate emerges.” What a joke! OF COURSE she wants them to count, even though the results are totally unfair and were skewed to her. You know very well that Obama’s name wasn’t even on the Michigan ballot. And Hillary keeps saying she didn’t campaign in Florida, and the “biased” media you decry never calls her on it. But the fact is she DID campaign there. I remember seeing her on TV getting off a plane that final weekend in Florida and doing her “non campaigning” before the Tuesday vote. Mrs. Clinton and her husband are practiced liars who lie as a matter of routine.
Posted by: Neal Lawrence | March 25, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Wow… look at all the brainwashed conservative, religious, fruitcakes coming out of the closet on this one. Come on, let me strap a bomb to your chest so you can pose with the brainwashed conservative, religious, fruitcakes that are your brothers and sisters in the terrorizing of humanity with your close minded religious rhetoric.
Posted by: John | March 25, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
As a Republican, I am enjoying the hell out of this. Hillary will probably talk about how she remembers her tour of duty in Vietnam and how she had to land her chopper in a rice patty to pick up her wounded buddies.
Posted by: Jim Noble | March 25, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
It’s a shame the Democratic Party can’t find better candidates than Hillary and B.H.O…I find them both embarassing!
Posted by: beawulf | March 25, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
As an Edwards supporter, then an Obama supporter, I used to take the attitude that I could live with a Hillary nomination and, if it came down to that, vote for her in November. After observing her and her surrogates in recent weeks, I’ll have a difficult time voting for her if she is the nominee.
If she is nominated, there are times when I think that it would be better for McCain to be elected. At least the GOP won’t have anyone else to blame for the pending demise of our economy and our nation’s standing in the world.
Posted by: Aredee | March 25, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Wow, just from scanning the comments made it looks pretty bad for you Hillary. You made a major boo boo this time…again. People just aren’t going to take it. The American population has had it with you & your husband. Too bad. You got toooo greedy.
Posted by: Markmywords | March 25, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
I am Hillary Clinton, I am Woman, Hear my roar…
Posted by: smearjay | March 25, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Wow, just from scanning the comments made it looks pretty bad for you Hillary. You made a major boo boo this time…again. People just aren’t going to take it. The American population has had it with you & your husband. Too bad. You got toooo greedy.
Posted by: Markmywords | March 25, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Wow, the quality of some of these comments is astounding.
The Clinton campaign is in a shambles. Bill is saying “stick to the issues” while Hillary is trying to revive the corpse of the Rev. Wright issue. Simultaneously. That one made me laugh. Nothing is going to take the spotlight off Hillary’s LIE about Bosnia. She will have to frame Obama taking part in a Satanic ritual in order to ruin that man, and if that happens, mark my words, there will be no Democrat in the White House this November.
Posted by: Megan | March 25, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
David Brooks said it best in his Editorial when he described Senator Clinton as having “the audacity of hopelessness”.
Posted by: Tom | March 25, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
The Tonya Harding Option is kids stuff ! Now the Vince Foster option….. That’s hardcore ! ! !
Barack Obama better watch out before Hillary goes Vince Foster on his butt and turns him into “Barack Foster”.
Memo to Senator Obama: Never, Never go for a walk alone in a Park. But, if you do, take along some friends and For Gosh Sakes,,,,, BE CAREFUL.
Posted by: concerend | March 25, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
To “perfect storm” -
I don’t see how riots and fires reveals a “victim personality”.
I think a person with a victim personality would accept the actions of scoundrels around them passively and just moan, “Woe is me, the poor victim!” The guy who riots and sets fires isn’t doing that at all. He is refusing to be a victim and is asserting his demand for just treatment in the most rigorous way possible.
Posted by: Brian | March 25, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
That Hillary dog can’t hunt anymore. Her own Senatorial colleagues are looking at her as if she is the plague. She’ll never be trusted in the Senate. Her career is over.
Posted by: Dutch Citizen | March 25, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
I think it’s great that the scenario Howard Dean wished on the Republicans (chaos and a brokered convention) is playing out within his own party and he is doing absolutely nothing to prevent it. The DNC chose Dean as a compromise and now the campaigns, state parties (Florida and Michigan) and the DNC can not contain the damage and prevent their differences and insults from making consistent headlines. I love it, keep it up Dean, sit back and throw insults at McCain while you do absolutely nothing to prevent your party from imploding.
Posted by: adam | March 25, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Wow, the quality of some of these comments is astounding.
The Clinton campaign is in a shambles. Bill is saying “stick to the issues” while Hillary is trying to revive the corpse of the Rev. Wright issue. Simultaneously. That one made me laugh. Nothing is going to take the spotlight off Hillary’s LIE about Bosnia. She will have to frame Obama taking part in a Satanic ritual in order to ruin that man, and if that happens, mark my words, there will be no Democrat in the White House this November.
Posted by: Megan | March 25, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Who is Tonya Harding? Was she the one dating the mayor of Detroit?
Posted by: Karl | March 25, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
It has been over since Ohio/Texas. Obama will be the Democratic nominee. The Super Delegates will not help the Clintons steal the nomination. What remains to be seen is how badly the Clintons damage the Democratic Party on their way out.
Posted by: Texas Voter | March 25, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Early on, I was very happy and supported Clinton. I also donated money ONLY and ONLY to her in my entire life!!!
Now, as I’m beginning to see more dirt hitting Obama, I’m starting to feel bad and ugly about the politics she is playing. I’m turned off ALREADY with her.
I sense that the upcoming states elections must be very decisive for Obama. otherwise, I feel she might get dangerous, and indeed we end up with Civil War era president McCain!
Posted by: Alex | March 25, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Hillary is going Tonya Harding? I can’ wait to see her sex video.
Posted by: Bubbill | March 25, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
I am no fan of Hillary, but I will give her a pass on this. I know what it is like to go for weeks on end as all the candidates have done. There are plenty of other issues for me not to vote for Hillary. As far as Obama goes, I see a incredible orator with four years experience at the federal level and no CEO or governor experience at all. Loved his speech on race. It was great but he is pretty green to put in the Presidency. For me I will go with McCain, he’s the best option available.
Posted by: Jerry | March 25, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Hillary will get the nomination. She will take out Obama because this is her last chance. Any way if Obama is elected he would not be the first black president, remember that was BJ Bill Clinton. So much for the love affair with the 1990 Clinton’s…
Posted by: Bob | March 25, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
McCain is a blabbering old fool that knows NOTHING about living in the real world. He loves to toss around the fact that he was a POW, but never brings up the fact that he became a POW because he disobeyed orders. He knows nothing about the economy, and he just took a trip to Tel Aviv to receive his marching orders from Israel if he wins. He should be in a nursing home, not the White House.
Posted by: Robot Philosopher | March 25, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Mike “I WILL BE VOTING DEMOCRAT!”
Ahem, McCain is a Democrat, he once pondered the idea of becoming a demo, he once pondered the idea of being a running mate of a demo, so go ahead and vote for him. Does not matter who you vote for, a democrat will be in the White House.
We Constitution, Bill of Rights believing and in general, regular type of people have no front runner to vote for, once again.
Posted by: RonB | March 25, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Obviously this strategy only makes sense if Hillary has the goods on Obama, and if she does why did she not use them a long time ago?
Posted by: Dave | March 25, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Smearjay, you miss the point. No one is saying blacks will vote for McCain if Clinton wins the nomination, although some will. The point is, they’ll be so angry that Clinton torpedoed their candidate, that they will refuse to vote for her. Republicans don’t need blacks to turn out in force for McCain, they just need them to stay home. With McCain’s independent appeal, Hillary has no chance to win without the black vote. They will hate her if she takes Obama down.
Posted by: Jonesb | March 25, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
These things must be done delicately, or you hurt the spell!
Posted by: Bill | March 25, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Neiher of these two fools is qualified to manage a Denny’s much less the USA. Obama’s lack if judgement where Wright is concerned makes him unelectable and Hillary is an outright liar. Once again the democrats have travelled the yellow brick road to la-la land and want everyone else to follow them. This country needs leadership, not symbolism. Great speeches and glass ceiling be damned, give me LEADERSHIP!.
Posted by: Jay Johnson | March 25, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
You have to be an idiot if you actually believe that Obama is racist. Did you not listen to the man’s speech, his mother is white and his white grandparents raised him and they love him as much as he loves them. So, please stop, I’m sure the people posting these lies have a deep down hatred for black people as a whole.
Posted by: tiger | March 25, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Obama was the only democratic candidate who had tv ads running ad naseum in Florida before the primary. Even so he lost, and he is afraid he’ll lose again if they do a re-count, that is why he is against it. In Michigan, Obama and Edwards chose to take their name off the ballot, but his followers were told to vote uncommitted, which they did. No campaigning? Please get your facts right. Obama is afraid of the results of a revote in Florida and Michigan, that is the plain and simple reason he is against it.
Posted by: svsolis | March 25, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Regarding Hillary’s Bosnian story: She has an obvious recollection of being in a situation where she came under sniper fire. If she was mistaken that it occurred in Bosnia, then where was it that it did occur?
With all the news wire archived video out there, surely she can find out where this sniper attack occurred and restore her credibility on this story.
Posted by: steve | March 25, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Obama won when he swept the patomic and Hillary knows it. She is hoping for him to make a major slip-up and he hasn’t he has only become a better candidate because of her.
The Wright scandal only hurt him for about a week and he bounced right back. She thought it was the end that’s why she said nothing and only now had someone throw her a softball question about his pastor recently so she could get it back in the news cycle.
I can understand a good fight. But to destroy a member of your own party who you claimed to respect and admire is typical Clinton arrogance and typical disgusting behavior from that wicked witch.
Superdelegates know Obama is the best person to match against McCain. She is just hoping he loses so she can run again in 4-years.
Clinton and her legend of demnons (i.e. supporters) are pathetic.
Posted by: Josh N. | March 25, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Hey everyone leave Hillary alone. Come on she is suffering from shell shock after that harrowing sniper fire incident in Bosnia. Plus she is “sleep-deprived” she cannot be held accountable for her own words (even when reading them from a prepared speech) and even when she repeated the “misstatements” on four occasions in the past four months (March 17 – PA, Feb 25 -Tx, Jan. on Today show, and Dec. ’07).
Posted by: MK | March 25, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
The Democratic, Super Delegates can stop this race right now, if they would all endorse one candidate now. But, they will not or can not? Because………..?
Posted by: Dan, St. Louis | March 25, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Are you people even old enough to vote?
Posted by: JP | March 25, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Five Percent.
This is the chance Hillary has to win the Nomination according to a NYTimes columist. These are not good odds.
The people saying Hillary can still win don’t acknowledge what she has to do to win. She needs to either give up or DESTROY Obama.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 25, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
I thought I heard a puty cat… “I Am Hillary – Hear Me LIE! I’ll lie, cheat, steal or kill to get this nomination. I’ll destroy anybody who gets in my way. I’m a fighter!”
Posted by: Bill Catz | March 25, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Diabolic, Evil, hateful, dangerous, harmful satanic political woman ever rised in America.
Is it not this scriptual
If you accept Hillary as your nominee you accept doom in America. Plagues will rain as rains in USA. also Russia will be after USA with nuclear weapons. Remember Hillary said Russia PM has no soul. Watch Russia!!!!
Posted by: Chelse | March 25, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Hillary Clinton is maniac and Doesn’t care what she has to do to get the nomination. As her sort of husband said yesterday “we have to win”. Why??They are a scourge on American politics and should be driven out NOW. THEY ARE LIARS AND A DISGRACE. HOPE THE AMERICNA PEOPLE WAKE UP BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE. SHE IS DANGEROUS, NARCISSISTIC, A LIAR AND BAD FOR THIS COUNTRY. DID I MAKE IT CLEAR ENOUGH????
Posted by: NANCIANNE | March 25, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Hell hath no fury like a women scorned.
Watch your back Senator Obama!
Posted by: Penny | March 25, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Clinton is a hero, she went to Bosnia, don’t you know that?? Geezzz!!
Posted by: rob | March 25, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
It must be obvious even to Clinton’s most loyal supporters that she is willing to go to any length to win the nomination, including telling out right lies such as the Bosnia – Sniper fable.
That her die hard supporters are still behind her after her story was trashed 3 ways – by Sinbad, by actual CBS News footage, and by her own autobiography, demonstrates how some Americans can be so easily brainwashed into following her.
Clinton continues her flawed campaign despite the utter destruction of her reputation by her own hand and words.
That she is willing to destroy not only herself, but take her party down with her in the process serves only to further demonstrate that she is unfit to be President.
Clinton needs to drop out now and return to her position in the Senate where she plays second fiddle to Charles Schumer quite nicely.
Posted by: RicRoe | March 25, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
I am currently voting for Obama, but if Clinton wins the nomination, I will vote for McCain. She is very evil and now I see it. I was the one defending her but no more.
Posted by: Switching parties | March 25, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Is the Bosnia thing Hillary’s swift boat???
Posted by: jerseyboy17 | March 25, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Hillary ducking from sniper fire. Ha!
Obama has to do that every day in Chiago. Rotflmao
Posted by: Rick | March 25, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Clever. Creepy, but clever. I’m dining at the bar of the Palm tonight.
Posted by: CC | March 25, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Is Hillary trying create a weak Obama for the general election, hoping for a McCain win, and then focusing on beating McCain in 2012????
Posted by: CHaas | March 25, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
What does George Soros have to say about all the whole matter?
Posted by: Fresch Fisch | March 25, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
What does George Soros have to say about all the whole matter?
Posted by: Fresch Fisch | March 25, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Obama…’a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing…”.
And now we learn that Mr. Tax-the-Rich made over $2million, but managed to give less than 1% away. Another generous Democrat. LOL. Too cheap to donate even 1% (is he Canadian?) and a large sum of that went to a racist church. At least us typical white guys donate more than 1%. How pathetic is this man?
Posted by: Tom | March 25, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Obama can’t win because of the “Pastor Disastor”! It’s that simple if he is nominated might as well call off the election and start calling McCain Mr. President!
Posted by: russell | March 25, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Obama is qualified by intellect and temperament, but not by experience. Hillary is qualified by nothing but her husband’s experience. John McCain is aging. We desperately need the values and the wisdom of Mike Huckabee.
Posted by: DavidE7 | March 25, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
People are pushing so hard for her to drop out….. could it be because Sen.Obama is going to get his butt kicked in Pa. Unfortunately there is buyers remorse lurking around people who have already voted for Sen. Obama wish they could take their vote back…. just putting it out there
Posted by: robyn | March 25, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Obama should talk to some old Indian Tribes in South Dakota to get schooled up on how to survive a Scorched Earth Policy, circa 2008. He is going to need oceans of water to deal with the fire works coming his way via the Clinton smash-em-up-machine. I am a Republican who would never vote for Obama or Hillary, or any Democrat. but the idea of the nomination being stolen by Hillary does not bode well for our Democracy. If Obama has the popular vote and the delegate vote I find it to be quite immoral to take-it-away from the man. I guess Hillary’s thinking is different.
Posted by: Ames Tiedeman | March 25, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Bosnia:
It was reported that as they were trying to land, there had been sniper fire in the hills around the airport.
Barack lied about Wright, lied about Rezko, uses the worst tactics, lies about his politics, etc.
The Independents have seen through him and he has lost all of their respect.
I know some independents who were for him who now say they would never, ever vote for him now.
He doesn’t need Hillary to do anything to take him down – it’s all already built in.
He’s too scared to even go on FOX News.
Posted by: Lauren | March 25, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Obama was unelectable from the start but DNC thought we would be so desperate we would bite hook line and sinker. He’ll never win the GE.
Mccain for 08 “Better the devil you know than the one you don’t”!!
Posted by: skeedah | March 25, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
i hope she tries the Michael Richards Option next.
Posted by: dave | March 25, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
It’s shaping up to be a cakewalk for McCain, especially if he chooses Condi Rice for Veep. Democrats don’t have a snowball’s chance in (you know where)of getting the White House back on November 4th.
Posted by: Lenny | March 25, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
I am so sick and tired of these coward’s that want to make comments about a candidate and not give their name! No Guts, this DNC official, and from his comments he is a Obama supporter. With national polls tied, I would be really ticked off if Clinton quit the race. Let the people vote!!!!
Posted by: Shirley | March 25, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
I ainto no Obama fan but the shameless Hillary Clinton came out and said that “If I knew what I know now, I would not stay in Obama’s church”. Well what happened with your husband Mrs. Clinton ? You knew that he cheated on you over and over again, broke his solemn vow of marriage and you kept quiet because you wanted to be President on his coattails one day…What happened when the chief law enforcement officer of the land, the President of the United States came out and committed perjury, obstruction of justice and suborned perjury ? Did you have the guts to speak out ?
You had choice many times in your life and you chose wrong every time. So stop preaching to us about “Wright” and “Wrong.
Posted by: anven | March 25, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Hillary owns Sinbad a sincere apology!
Posted by: Bob | March 25, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Obama saw this coming, why hasn’t the media said anything about this??? We know why….
Guys, I am posting this on as many comment pages and blogs, as I can, so if you see if more then once, I apoligize, but it is worth looking at.
For all the Obama haters out there, please check out the following:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/obamas-year-old-letter-to-bern.php
Can your candidate say that they did this???
Maybe he is the future!!
Take this and post it
Posted by: jc | March 25, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Matt, Your Right on Target. Operation Chaos in high gear. This is beautiful watching the Democrats destroy each other. Meanwhile we sit on the sidelines and wait for the implosion. It’s the best soap oprea on the radio and television todate. I can only anticipate the outcome. Waiting.
Posted by: Gary | March 25, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Matt, Your Right on Target. Operation Chaos in high gear. This is beautiful watching the Democrats destroy each other. Meanwhile we sit on the sidelines and wait for the implosion. It’s the best soap oprea on the radio and television todate. I can only anticipate the outcome. Waiting.
Posted by: Gary | March 25, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Jonesb, the lesson for smearjay is that Obama is not a black candidate, he has received vote from white, latinos, black and overwelmingly young people. If Hillary gets the nomination the Harding way, then young people, black, white and latinos will give a landslide victory to McCain.God bless America, God bless Obama. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | March 25, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
I am voting for Obama…I don’t care who the DNC nominates, I will write in his name if I have to. McCain is not an option – he’s a liar and a hypocrite and is barely an upgrade over our current president, except he does appear capable of stringing sentences together even when what he says is completely wrong.
Posted by: Jerry | March 25, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
I think we’re more likely to see the Michael Richards Option from Hillary.
Posted by: Cousin Dave | March 25, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Where were all you poofs when the Clintons were in office? Were you blind to the obvious then? They are both slimey hacks.
The difference between now and then is that Obama is the new, hip liar and scumbag that you can hang your socialist hat on.
He gets all the free pub, Hill gets treated like a Republican in the media. I’d feel sorry for you all if you weren’t so damn stupid.
Vote for the ADULT in November! Go with McCain. This is from someone who REALLY doesn’t like McCain’s moderate stance.
Posted by: Tim | March 25, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
People from all states should run independent elector slates,as Mississippi did in 1960,to keep any of these three out of the White House.
Posted by: Tom Dockery | March 25, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
I am currently voting for Obama, but if Clinton wins the nomination, I will vote for McCain. She is very evil and now I see it. I was the one defending her but no more.
Posted by: Switching parties | March 25, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
The only soapbox ramblingis from Obama. The man gives a speech of empty platitudes, empty promises, and empty hope. The only hope he believes in is the hope that he can convince enough people to vote for him with his empty speeches. This man has no substance, much less experience. But hey, if you want the redistribution of wealth and entitlement programs for everyone, he must be the man for you.
Posted by: Don Juan | March 25, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Hillary will win,just like she defeated death in Bosnia by dodging those bullets. (Hey, I know what Sinbad said; he’s a liar.)
Posted by: Rollin | March 25, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Thanks Dems! Keep it up!
Posted by: Brian G. | March 25, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Is this like when she ‘misspoke’ about NAFTA. Is she going to misspeak everytime she breaks a campaign promise. Sounds like more waffling. The only reason she’s still in this race is because GOP voters are hoping to defeat her in the General Election. Hillary, for all our sakes, get out now!
Posted by: Marco | March 25, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Hillary is ruthless, self-centered, and will stop at nothing to promote her own agenda; we’ve known that since she and Bill hopped into the national spotlight. What is truly shocking is how many blind political groupies — and some smart people, I might add — are sticking by her side and defending her as she bushwacks her way through this primary season. It’s the aides who should be ashamed of themselves. The Clintons can’t help themselves. But her staffers know better! Get out and save your dignity before her candidacy becomes the most reviled campaign ever run!
Posted by: Rhea | March 25, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Hillary is really running for 2012. By damaging Obama she hopes to give McCain the presidency and then she has a shot next time around, because McCain will be too old to run again and will likely be a major flop any way. If Obama is not damaged she is OUT, since he is likely to do two terms, that is, go all the way to 2016, at which point his VP has an inside track… Now, this would suggest that she is much more selfish than she cares about the Democratic party, but would anyone really be surprised at that? LOL. In fact, it may be time to introduce the word “Clintonian” in the dictionary, as in “being extremely self-serving, often in manipulative and dishonest ways that hurt others.”
Posted by: Juan Carlos | March 25, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
nice to see the myopic little morons riddled with white-guilt have shown up call everyone who does not tow the dem party line a “racist”. i’m really happy that scarlet letter still works so well to stifle debate for you folks…
Posted by: Nate | March 25, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
I love the fact that between the two Obama and Hillary, the democratic party will be divided and How-weird Dean will have to rally the troops and pick up the pieces of the party behind one of them. Best of luck. “McCain for President”
Posted by: Paul | March 25, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
What a bias article!!!
Posted by: yj | March 25, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
I know guys!!! Let’s crucify this journalist an all of ‘em that are speaking bad about Democrats (our candidate at least). When oh when will the media finally stop this dem bashing and turn its focus back on Republicans?! If we don’t start controlling our media, McCain might win!
Losers
Posted by: Nick | March 25, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Well Mrs. Clinton, you and your husband are a stain on our country very much like the stain on Monica Lewinsky’s dress. Every time I take kids to the Smithsonian and especially foreigners, I have to explain without batting an eyelid what a blue dress with a stain is doing there.. ? What a shame..this woman should just quit before everyone is against her…she has already ticked off most of her Senate colleagues..
Posted by: anven | March 25, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
carl alan said:
>>>Mike huckabee might have said that but that doesn’t make it so…A very few of these loud mouthed rabble rousers have ever sat in the back of the bus, ate in the balcony or any of these other things you talk about…There is a lot of things they have done though, like selling dope, car jacking, robbing banks and looting…They use every excuse to riot, pilfer and break the law…lets talk about that a bit..
Well, actually Rosa Parks *WAS* breaking the law when she refused to sit in the back of the bus…lets talk about that a bit…
Posted by: John from CA | March 25, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
You should not take this too lightly. Google Hillary exposed and look around.
Posted by: Web Smith | March 25, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Anyway, who is the Democratic Party Official? Obama’s campaign official? Dashle who lost to John Thune? Kerry who blew a near certain victory? Or the Lord of Camelot Kennedy?
I think Hillary should avail the Tonya Harding Option. Otherswise, the republicans will pick him apart like a Thanksgiving turkey come November.
Posted by: Roger Miller | March 25, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
The superdelegates will vote straight percentages based on underlying delegates which will result in a non-decision. At that point another vote will be held and then EVERY delegate will be in play. That way they will avoid the “superdelegates stole the party/election, and HilBil will get the nod.
Nice knowing you….
Posted by: Danno | March 25, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
The Obama campaign is trying to stop there truly being a popular vote, but not allowing a revote in Michigan or Florida.
You can’t even truly call it a popular vote, if two of our biggest states are left out.
That is the most undemocratic thing I have ever heard of.
I am a devoted Democrat, and I have never been more astounded by, and have less respect for, the Democratic Party.
They are not allowing this election to be fair and Democratic.
Posted by: Lauren | March 25, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Obama Girl, that fount of political wisdom, has suggested that Hillary drop out of the race, but I think Hillary should consult with Britney Spears first. Any thoughts?
Posted by: antonio28 | March 25, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Imagine that. All you Democrats are finally coming around to admit what the Republicans were saying about the Clintons years ago was true.
Posted by: KellyJ | March 25, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
If she follows through with the “Tonya Harding” option, AlGore will get the nomination, and probably pick Obama as his running mate. And Hillary will have to be content with being a hack in the US Senate for the rest of her miserable existance.
Posted by: Andrew P | March 25, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
The 2008 race is looking lost for us Democrats. Hill took the nomination for granted, got surprised and then proceeded to destroy Obama and disgrace herself in the process. Look at the anger in the comments. As an Obama supporter, I will never vote for Hill and I believe that there are many Hill supporters that will not vote for him. She should have gracefully bowed out instead of turning this into bar room mudwrestling on $1 beer night. It’s too late now. Democrats are hopelessly divided. I really thnk she will get the nomination and then swiftboat McCain. She will be our next President and we will have eight years of unending partisanship and gridlock. Our foreign enemies will perceive us as in disarry and we’ll pay a terrible price. It’s very sad.
Posted by: an Observer | March 25, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Rock, you’re a fool to believe anyone that links a system of political belief to a psychiatric disorder. You’re listening too much to the fat, thrice-divorced, drug addict, Rush Limbaugh. You wanna see crazy??? How about selling the whole country out to big buusiness, oil coompanies, and Saudi Arabia. Fool!
Posted by: Robot Philosopher | March 25, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
This DNC official should apologize to Ms. Harding. What an insult to be compared to Hillary Clinton!
Posted by: Erik | March 25, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
The power players within the Democratic leadership need to put pressure on Hilary to quit now. I wouldn’t surprise me in the least if she is trying destroy Obama and his chances at the presidency so that she can run again in four years.
Posted by: ali | March 25, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Wow John, those are some pretty progressive hateful feelings your having! I do not attend any church, have no religious affiliation whatsoever, although, since I work for a living, I find my values consistently fall in line with those of the republican party. No I am not rich, an entrepreneur to be sure. I made under 100 grand last year (by more than I’d like to admit) and I pay for my Dr.s office visits. What prejudice is it that compels immature liberals to associate conservatism with religiosity?
Posted by: Richard | March 25, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Wow, here I am in Illinois, seeing Obama and Hillary (both from Illinois) and feeling disgusted.
God our state sucks as I give you both Hillary and Obama as proof.
Posted by: Cletis McShane | March 25, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
People of Pennsylvania, this is all part of the VRWC. Vote Hillary on April 22d! Keep democracy alive!
Posted by: Rush | March 25, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Is there news here? Everyone knows the it’s been over for weeks but Super Delegates and the media are carrying Hillary’s water and bury the party. Republicans couldn’t have done a better job of destruction on Obama and the party. Cut her loose, people!
Posted by: Rita | March 25, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Kind of sad that our nations leaders won’t be elected on what they can do for our country. This isn’t Tony Harding tactics, it’s going to be Shock and Awe Tactics, and our Democratic Nominee will be decided on who gets destroyed less by the other. Get me out of this country.
Posted by: Jim | March 25, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
I think we have a case of ABC attempting to “play catch-up” with CBS after they trashed Hillary on the Bosnia visit fiasco. Comparing Hillary to Tonya Harding! This is too sweet.
Posted by: Arkansas Bob | March 25, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
She can always go to the Vince Foster Option
Posted by: Boo Hoo For HRC | March 25, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
Hillary showed the Super Delegates today what type of tone and leadership she has. She presented herself as angry and beaten and willing to drag everyone down with her. I was very shocked and sadden.
Posted by: leslie | March 25, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
HRC led troops ashore during the Normandy Invasion. We need leadership like that in the Oval Office. I can’t wait to vote for her.
Posted by: AFC | March 25, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Al Gore to the Rescue ! ! ! Ridign in on his white, no– Green Horse ! ! !
At least Al has not mis-constured any facts, or held a blind eye to to this situation, as it warms up !
Posted by: Tex | March 25, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Kind of sad that our nations leaders won’t be elected on what they can do for our country. This isn’t Tony Harding tactics, it’s going to be Shock and Awe Tactics, and our Democratic Nominee will be decided on who gets destroyed less by the other. Get me out of this country.
Posted by: James D. | March 25, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Another example of the short memories that people in the USA (and probably the world) have…it’s Nancy Kerrigan who was Harding’s target. I do think that when they talk of “breaking his back” they are speaking literally. I put nothing beneath the Clintons.
Posted by: Frank | March 25, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Bush and Cheny lied and Hillary died
Posted by: Stoner | March 25, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
If you make less than 250K a year and vote Republican than you must be a sucker.
Posted by: IrishJim | March 25, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
The entire purpose behind the ‘Super-delegates’ was to prevent another Mondale-esque candidate from getting the nod (and getting trounced) regardless of the voters will. Now that the Supers have to actually do their jobs all they can do is cower in the corner and whine over the system that they set up themselves.
The DNC ALWAYS intended the Supers to override “the will of the voters” in the event an unelectable canidate somehow squeezed by.
Posted by: KellyJ | March 25, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
What is so sad is that supporters have not figured out that the Clintons will say or do anything to get elected and have no accountability or conscience about it. In addition, there is no questioning Obama from his supporters. They have no clue what the man stands for or how he might govern. Both are scary – very scary!
Posted by: Ranj | March 25, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
HEY..
This is scary. were talking about America’s future, lets get real…none of the three are fit to be dog catcher let alone president.
America is about to go down the tubes,
race, gas prices, banks having trouble and we sit and let these fools try and convince us to vote for them. Where is Reagan or Truman when we need them???
If no one is elected does the congress appoint a president.
Posted by: GATE | March 25, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
I was in Bosnia at Tuzla Main Eagle base when Clinton and her daughter were there,,no snipers,,anywhere. Would have went to the USO show except it was too crowded. The only running was to the chow hall and the soldiers doing their PT.
Her campaign spokesperson even lied, there weren’t any snipers in the hills either,,all made up.
If this comes out after losing a little sleep now, what will come out of her mouth when she is in charge,,,,God help us and the nation.
Posted by: JB | March 25, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
YES hilary atleast destroy obama before he destroys us!!!!
Posted by: john | March 25, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Lauren,
You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Obama had nothing to do with the FL and MI no re-vote.
Please do your investigation before you attempt an intelligent conversation.
Posted by: Suzanne | March 25, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
The entire purpose behind the ‘Super-delegates’ was to prevent another Mondale-esque candidate from getting the nod (and getting trounced) regardless of the voters will. Now that the Supers have to actually do their jobs all they can do is cower in the corner and whine over the system that they set up themselves.
The DNC ALWAYS intended the Supers to override “the will of the voters” in the event an unelectable canidate somehow squeezed by.
Posted by: KellyJ | March 25, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
If Obama can really be made unacceptable to Democrats, Hillary must try.
Because it is a certainty that McCain will try to make Obama unacceptable to voters in the general.
The worst of all worlds is getting a candidate to the general election, then everyone wondering, how did we nominate such a weak candidate?
If he can take it, he’d better show it, because it’s coming in the general election campaign for sure.
Posted by: mere mortal | March 25, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
One situation that may arise, God forbid, is that Al Gore comes out of the convention with the nomination. Keep your eyes open. With the total division of the Democrat party this is a distinct possibility. If that happens look out. Think about why else wouldn’t the old Democrat machine step in with their voices raised to tone this crap down.
This is one democrat that would vote for “None of the above.”
Posted by: DonL | March 25, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Bring on Al Gore to save the Democratic Party… A Gore/Obama ticket would be best option for the Dems!
Posted by: Tim | March 25, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
her campaign is getting more and more disgusting. There is no dishonor in stepping down when you know you’ve lost, rather than turning into that which you hate.
Posted by: Jill Kern | March 25, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
There is no right to vote. Leave it to a democrat to think there is.
Posted by: Nick | March 25, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Hey Dems…
Look, I know history (and general facts) are not your strong point.
CBS is showing America what a liar Hillary Clinton is. Well, Republicans already knew this in 92 and through both terms of her husband’s presidency.
Both of them are liars of the highest order.
Posted by: Diego | March 25, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Hey Dems…
Look, I know history (and general facts) are not your strong point.
CBS is showing America what a liar Hillary Clinton is. Well, Republicans already knew this in 92 and through both terms of her husband’s presidency.
Both of them are liars of the highest order.
Posted by: Diego | March 25, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
“HILLARY STEALS IT, LOSES TO MCCAIN, DESTROYS THE DEM PARTY FOREVER. SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PLAN STRAIGHT FROM A DEVIL.”
This is scary but it definitely could happen and not only would this affect minorities within the Democratic party but this would affect race relations on a whole. Can anyone say WATTS?
Posted by: tiger | Mar 25, 2008 4:37:15 PM
ARE you ACTUALLY TREATENING a RACE RIOT if you 1/2 black 1/2 white guy doesn’t win the nomination??? That’s OUTRAGOUS!!!
Posted by: Astonished | March 25, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
The Clinton’s want to be back in power so badly, they’ll resort to anything in order to achieve that goal. It’s up to the media to do it’s job and keep a close eye on the Clinton camp’s activities. If they don’t, the “bias” label will tossed around for years to come.
Posted by: Rob | March 25, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
People are pushing so hard for her to drop out….. could it be because Sen.Obama is going to get his butt kicked in Pa. Unfortunately there is buyers remorse lurking around people who have already voted for Sen. Obama wish they could take their vote back…. just putting it out there
Posted by: robyn | March 25, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Hillary will not be able to govern this country from day One because she will be awaken to take the 3:00 am call. Bill Clinton will go down the history as the skirtchaser and Hillary (if she ever gets to the WHite House) as the Nightwatcher
Posted by: angela pereira | March 25, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
I think this article is horribly unfair. Tanya Harding is a much more qualified candidate than Hillary; and less likely to lie.
Posted by: John | March 25, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Didn’t Tonya go to jail?
Who will take one for the team?
Go OBAMA
Posted by: scott wells | March 25, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
No Suzanne – the Obama lawyers are arguing against revotes in Michigan and Florida.
It is the most unDemocratic thing I have ever seen in the Democratic party.
They have everything to do with why there is no scheduled revote – they have been making arguments against it.
You need to be the one to do some real research.
Posted by: Lauren | March 25, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Obama keeps trying to sell himself as a master negotiator, always ready to talk to our enemies. If he can’t negotiate hilary, a fellow democrat, out of the tanya harding option what chance would he have against a foreign country?
Posted by: zip | March 25, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
You think this might be the reason Hillary and McCain are teaming up on President Obama?
In February alone, more than 94% of Obama donors gave in amounts of $200 or less. Meanwhile, campaign finance reports show that donations of $200 or less make up just 13% of Senator McCain’s total campaign funds, and only 26% of Senator Clinton’s.
Senator Obama is forging a new path and the establishment is bitter.
Posted by: IrishJim | March 25, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
This anonomous Democrat is RIGHT ON THE MONEY. And Hillary Clinton DOES NOT CARE if she destroys Barack Obama (I feel sure she would like to destroy Barack Obama, and I don’t just mean this figuratively).
She also doesn’t care at all if she destroys the Democratic Party’s chances in November. If she doesn’t get the nomination, Hillary Clinton doesn’t care if the whole world goes to hell. That’s how focused she is on winning and gaining POWER. That’s all she cares about.
If Hillary had any class, any caring for anything other than herself, she would gracefully bow out of the race for the nomination NOW… or at least VERY, VERY SOON.
Unfortunately, as she has demonstrated time and time again, Hillary Clinton doesn’t have any class. She, like her husband, only cares about winning at any cost.
THAT’S ALL, FOLKS. PERIOD. END OF STORY.
Posted by: Kathleen J. | March 25, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Voters are having Buyer’s Remorse about Obama. He is damaged goods over the Wright issue. McCain will win if Hillary Clinton does not get the nomination. She is the electable one. Supers, do your duty because the voters didn’t have, or get, all the info on Obama. Polls show Hillary leading, you will see. That’s why it is terrible if things are over too soon.
Fight on Hillary!
Posted by: thinkchess | March 25, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
You end your article:
“The Tonya Harding Option — the first time I’ve heard it put that way.
It implies that Clinton is so set on ensuring that Obama doesn’t get the nomination, not only is she willing to take extra-ruthless steps, but in the end neither she nor Obama win the gold.”
Your conclusion is apparently that she is so set on winning that she is willing to take extra-ruthless steps. But I don’t think that’s what your “source” is saying. The source is saying that’s what it will take to win the nomination – not that Clinton is likely to go to that extent.
I can’t stand Hillary – never could. I think she’s a snake, just like her husband. But she is smart (despite stupid comments like the Bosnian Death Dash) – I don’t think she’s stupid enought to go to the extent you’re suggesting no matter how much she wants the nomination. You’re drawing inaccurate conclusions for your readers. Stop it.
Posted by: xombie | March 25, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Please, stop comparing J. Wright to Falwall.
Yes, Falwell is a religious zealot who has also said dumb things, but unlike Wright, his ideology is not based on plain stated racial bigotry toward another group of people (see Black Liberation Theology, James Cone), NOR does John McCain have any extensive deep seeded personal relationship with Falwell or any other controversial religious figures as far as I know.
It just confounds me how Obama supporters can’t even acknowledge why many folks are compelled to question the close, long term, personal connection between these two men given J. Wright’s history of biggotted and anti-American proclaimations.
J. Wright is a radical RADICAL guy, and he’s one of the most important figures in Obama’s life, yet you people dismiss legitimate concerns and chalk it up to political trickery. Just Lame!!
Posted by: Brad | March 25, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
The dems LOST when they dumped J. Edwards. He was the only one that was center enough to have wide voter appeal.
The game is over and the party is lost for another 20 years. The left of left side of the party is the cause of the downfall.
Posted by: ralph | March 25, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
The Democratic leadership plays the fiddle while Hillary destroys the Party.
Wake up Dean, Gore, Pelosi, Edmunds…
Posted by: DaveJ | March 25, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
CHAOS reigns! The past couple of weeks with Hillary and Obama have exceeded everything I could have hoped for. Too bad there are only five months until August. And, yes, it will go that long, because a Clinton is biologically incapable of doing something that advances another organism at its’ own expense.
My guess is we’ll soon start hearing about Barack’s other hate-filled preacher (Meeks), then his friends in the Weather Underground, and then, finally, someone will say they bought some coke from him. When that happens, my liberal friends, please remember, it’s not the veracity of the evidence that concerns us. No. It’s the “seriousness of the charge.”
Posted by: Markit8Dude | March 25, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
How can you even consider voting for McSame, the guy who even at this late hour demonstrated SEVERAL times that he has not even the BAREST knowledge of what is going on in Iraq–he confuses Sunni and Shia, he doesn’t know who Iran is training, and he doesn’t know where al Qaeda comes from. He’s positively embarrassing. And he’s supposed to be the one with foreign policy credentials?
McSame is also the guy who’d like to stay in Iraq for “another hundred years” and who is itching to invade Iran with our nonexistent, broken military and the crushing national debt that W has saddled us with and then sold to the Communist Chinese. McSame is also the guy who confessed he knows nothing about the economy. Why do right-wingers always want to elect the dumbest guy in the room?
And the worst you have on Obama is a stridently-worded minister, a former Marine who fought and bled for his country in Vietnam, a guy whose divisive statements Obama has overtly rejected?
You McCain voters are beyond lame. You must be the 24-percenters who think W is the best thing to have happened to this country.
Posted by: rhet | March 25, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
All those media or DNC official talks are NEGATIVES. Why just let race finish? Why not just let every voters voter? Obama is leading, but he doesn’t have delegates to clinch yet. He is still needs superdelegates. These are people who are negatives, NOT CLINTON.
Posted by: WhyNotWaitForFinish | March 25, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
All this cat fighting looks like a bunch of school kids.
Indeed, none of the important national issues are being discussed (i.e. Immigration problems, budget deficit, the national debt, islamic extreamist, value of the dollar, on and on)
This shows how the Dems don’t care. They can fool you with all this slime. They are unfit to lead and your choice is simple. John McCain will be there when we need him! We need him now.
Posted by: Furball | March 25, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
I’m British, an author (which almost disqualifies my comment) and have lived a while in North America. I have no gripe with either party, except that ‘Hi-Hopes’ Bush blew it when he could and should have have done more.
Hillary Clinton is an altogether other kind of candidate. She’s erudite, she’s shrewd and she’s as ruthless as hell. In short, she wants the presidency. With her, odds – one way or the other – simply don’t matter. She plays the power game and she does it well.
But what most of you ignore is that almost all the posts I’m reading (including these) – the Left (and obviously the Right as well) reflect an overwhelming groundswell animosity towards her both as candidate and as private individual. I haven’t done a count, but in these columns before you, there are very few bloggers who are pro-Clinton. Check out other sites and a similar situation comes to light. And if the perceived Left doesn’t like the woman, then let;s face it folks, it’s going to be GOP all the way. How could it possibly be otherwise.
I’m not sure that Obama is the right person for America. But at least he offers something positive. More fundamental, ordinary folk of all shades like him because he is perceived to be honest.
Posted by: aljventer | March 25, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Rupulican’s have been accused of seven or eight years of failed policies? You mean the policy of keeping America free from more al-Qaeda attacks? Or maybe you mean the policy of tax cuts which benefited ALL Americans, especially the lower quintiles? (see Congressional budget office data, Total effective federal tax rate 1975-2005 by household quintile). The tax cuts helped us increase job growth, lower unemployment MORE THAN the Clinton years, and bring us out of the Clinton resession?
What about the policy that enabled to keep track of Al-Qaeda operatives and muslim terrorists that might operate from WITHIN the US?
Maybe he means the policy that lead the President to appoint 2 great SC justices that will protect the rights of American citizens?
In short, the policies of GWB, for the most part, have been good for America. Just the policies where we have caved in to liberalism, socialism, and Democrats are the ones that are hurting us now.
Barry H. O’bama is and always has been an afro-centric Marxist. How dare he tell us not to call him a liberal? Does he have something to hide from his sheeple? Is Marxist or socialist a better name?
Posted by: Bernadette | March 25, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
If I take out “Race” issue out of the two DEM candidates? Who will win? it is Obama..Obama is smart and the kind of President we need in Washington. If Edward was still in the race I would consider him much smarter than HRC..let’s get real people…Let’s hope Obama wins the nomination and Edward runs for VP..Republican will be in smoke…DEM President is on Board sure!
To the Obama haters…close your eyes and think..unless you are Republican..do not blame…you may not use your judgment..
Posted by: borha | March 25, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Some Republicans say voters like Obama because he has refused to help black people.
Where was Obama on the racially charge Duke rape case?
He had other things to do.
Where was Obama on the racially charged Jena Six case?
He was busy elsewhere.
Is that what makes Jackson and Sharpton “shakedown artists and flim-flammers?”
Because they were willing to get involved when Obama wasn’t?
Posted by: Wil Burns | March 25, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
I find it amazing that the DEMS would, in the end, pick two candidates that lack the experience to be President.
My friends in Europe are amazed that Obama, a man with only 2 years of national political experience is being considered for Leader of the Worlds only Super Power. Is there NO ONE of stature in the Democratic Party anymore?
Posted by: Kadar | March 25, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
As long as the democrats and republicans run this country; your children and mine will have no future.
Posted by: Tim | March 25, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
American9, look at what is happening to the dems. The party is ripping itself apart. And look how many dems are so disgusted that they will vote republican. Now who’s the loser
Posted by: rush | March 25, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
This DNC Democratic Party official who said these things is a fool. We may all know this Hillary stuff to be the case, but why say it to a reporter. This does not help Obama or your party. It makes independents distrustful of your platform. This equals another Republican winner in November. Such a shame.
Posted by: 08_Independent | March 25, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
There are suddenly a lot of attacks on Clinton in last a couple of days and many of them claiming some source from democratic party. But the fact is, some of them are from Obama supporters and many of them are from republicans. It seemed that republican had converged more into the belief that Obama is easier to deal with in the general election. So both Clinton supporters and Obama supporters, calm down. Do not be fooled by the republican conspiracy. Do not attack each other anymore. The fact is both Clinton and Obama have voters support and both should stay in the race.
Posted by: Jim | March 25, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
If Hillary doesn’t get the Dem nod, all she has to do is run as an Independent.
Leiberman did, and he won. In fact, his seat makes him very desirable by both sides.
If Hillary did run as an Independent, Barack would be guaranteed to lose.
I LOVE IT!
Posted by: IGotIt | March 25, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Nathan, Florida did not exactly break the rules… It was republican controlled legislature that set the primaries date.
But unlike republicans, who halved the delegates for states that broke the rules, democrats promised to keep them out without even considering of what has occured. This is what pisses me off the most. Same people who were yelling every vote counts in Florida 2000 election, are now filtering votes and do not want to pay for a fair revote.
Where is the democracy in that? Where are the democratic principles? Oh wait there may be none. Well, this might just push Florida, a swing state into republican camp during general election. Way to organize a loss, when there should have been a sure win. If you want Obama win, stop with hating, stop with calls for resignation. Instead advertise your candidate and learn his platform, else succumb to a war or words and a loss in general election.
Posted by: Ski | March 25, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Of course this is her strategy. She either wins because he’s too damaged or he gets the nomination, loses the general election and she runs in 2012.
She’s absolutely creepy!!
Posted by: STL Independent | March 25, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Of course this is her strategy. She either wins because he’s too damaged or he gets the nomination, loses the general election and she runs in 2012.
She’s absolutely creepy!!
Posted by: STL Independent | March 25, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
The Dems are imploded as a party !
The world of poltical correctness are coming back to haunt them is a big way. No one wants to say the obvious about both these candidates: They are unworthy, untested, untrusted and show no history of leading. Now they show their true colors and tear each other apart.
The Law of Unitended Consequences wil catch up with us all.
Posted by: Furball | March 25, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Americans are stupid. We voted in W, that should be enough proof for anyone.
Posted by: Tim | March 25, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
Re: the Bosnia landing story. Was Togo West lying when he said they told Hillary and Chelsea to go as fast as possible to their vehicles? Heads down, etc.?
I watched the 3/17 video, and he definitely said she was being carefully guarded.
I read a comment by a soldier who was in Bosnia at the time and this person said no filming was allowed of the actual landing and exiting…but I don’t know if this commenter could address all landings, especially of VIPs and entertainers.
Is there any footage of the actual landing and exiting the plane?
Posted by: Wil Burns | March 25, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
“It implies that Clinton is so set on ensuring that Obama doesn’t get the nomination, not only is she willing to take extra-ruthless steps, but in the end neither she nor Obama win the gold.”
Up until that point in your story you were simply reporting what an anonymous source claims to be true. But in the above paragraph you are simply editorializing. You are implying that this is true, and that is something Hillary is prepared to do. So far there seems to be roughly equal nastiness coming from both sides. Your article implies that it will get worse, and it will all be from the Clinton side. It also implies that Clinton has something she can use to destroy Obama, while Obama either does not have anything to destroy Clinton, or wouldn’t use it. I think your article is full of supposition.
Posted by: Gibson | March 25, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
You guys think of the country. You really think Obama is that great? He is just like anyone else – a trickster. You all are so bent on hating Hilary and seeing that she does not get elected, that you are not looking at who can be best for the country at this time. The minute Obama wins the nomination that will seal McCain’s presidency for the negativity of Obama will come to the forefront and he will be no match for McCain.
Posted by: Bruno | March 25, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
I am amazed at the ignorance on here. Lets talk “rules”. The Democratic national committee makes rules, the state governments of Florida and Michigan make and enforce state LAWS. The states hold these elections which often times include a presidential primary. Why exactly does Howard Dean and a small group of DNC officials have the right to tell any state when they can have their state election? Obama in his now proven cut and run approach anytime there is hard questions or decisions, purposley pulled his name off the ballot at the very last hour in Michigan and then ran ads in Florida. The only one to do so there. Obama knew he would lose these two states, Howard Dean knew Obama would lose these two states, and they cut a deal to try and make two of the largest states in the country bow to their wishes. Y’all say, well Hillary agreed to the rules, frankly exactly what choice did she have? It is very likely that Hillary will win PA big, Indiana, West Virgina, Kentucky, and Puerto Rico by solid margins and hold her own in North Carolina and Oregon. She will very likely surpass BHO in the popular vote totals. Will any Obama supporter on here then say she should get the nomination or start crying racism again?
Obama will win more states, but if you take away the fake caucuses where older americans and working americans could not vote, and the states that voted 90% black vote for Obama, then this race is not even close. A lot more than 1/5th of Hillary suporters will never vote for Obama. The crybabies on the news networks and most on here say Hillary is ruining the Dem party. Wrong. By allowing an unqualified, backroom dealing Chicago political mobster, who has deep seated problems with other races to caucus his way to the nomination is why the party will fail if they put Obama on the ballot.
Posted by: Colonel Ray | March 25, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Wewt! Go for it Hillary! Drill yet another hole in to the side of the sinking Democratic ship! Nothin’ like a little lying, cheating, and stealing to get in to office, eh? Or even ‘leg breaking’ to get in? Great analogy… Tanya Harding would be so proud – in fact she probably is…
: )
Posted by: Wewt Getrich | March 25, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Come to think of it, Hillary does remind me of Tanya Harding. As an independent, let me tell you democrats why you never win the general election. You send your biggest kooks, i.e. candidates to the election and expect the middle to buy into their dog and pony show. With Barack and Hillary as the ones left standing you proved to really outdo it again this time. McCain is the only safe bet.
Posted by: steve | March 25, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
I think Barack Obama is a very smart man and would bring a fresh approach to the Presidency. I’ve read both his books, which show a bright man with great insight. He may lack experience in government but he will certainly have advisors on which he will draw. I appreciate his bid for office.
Posted by: gaylj | March 25, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Governor Richardson who knows the Clintons so well made a great point. The Clintons think they are pre-ordained to the presidency that they will do anything to get there or completely destroy Obama so nobody will get there. Based on their machiavelic plan, they would rather see McCain than Obama in the White House. Aren’t the Clintons true monsters?
Posted by: May | March 25, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
good story and all too true. The campaign is straying from the issues and getting personal which doesn’t help anyone, especially Tonya, er Hillary.
Posted by: Bill | March 25, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
By the way, folks, contrary to the mass media we here in FLORIDA are NOT outraged about not having a revote. We all knew it wouldn’t count but we voted anyway because there were other local issues on the ballot, i.e propery tax, etc. That is why the politicians killed that suggestion. We do not want a revote here.We have other concerns.
Posted by: Jay | March 25, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Obama was educated by Mr. Wright more thirty years and also teached by Jones for another 20 years. Are you really believe that Mr. Obama can stand alone without any inferenced by those people.
Even five years old kids know how to answer it.
Posted by: Charlie W | March 25, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Of course!! The media jumps on a small story that has nothing to do with the election, only because it’s a way to make Clinton look bad. This is very sad. We can’t even have respectful reportings anymore. Why can’t we look at the real issues that face this country. If we only looked at the issues and who is more capable to handle them, clearly Clinton would overpass Obama. She’s more capable to control this country and everyone who knows right from wrong knows that.
Hillary ’08
Posted by: Jonath | March 25, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
All Clinton has asked is to let this primary season play out. Obama’s campaign is too afraid to let this happen. He feels entitled to the nomination based on where things are today. Talk about disenfranchising voters and I’m not even talking about those in Florida and Michigan but those in Pennsylvania, W. Virginia, Kentucky et. al. He just doesn’t want to LIMP INTO DENVER. So, he throws everything at her including the kitchen sink. These message boards have lit up today about a story that is no big deal (now I understand the big deal about his vacation. Just like Michael Corleone, the character in the Godfather who, while at his baby’s baptism, arranges to eliminate his mafia competition – the
opposing footage of the baptism and murders is something you don’t forget. He’s sunning himself on the beach and sending out his “hit men” to do TEAMOBAMA’s dirty work. I completely understand her frustration. I will never vote for him. As soon as the lies he’s told are revealed by a media grown tired of the “brand new thing”, he’ll be revealed as just another typical politician.
Posted by: s. valenti | March 25, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
This is great news for the Rudy campaign.
Posted by: TreeFalling | March 25, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Wow, no wonder Hillary wants our troops home. If she thinks a photo op, greeting children while getting off the plane is taking ‘sniper bullets’, she must really fear for our soldiers if insurgents have those new Canon digital cameras. There’s no telling how awful the scene could be then.
Both are clueless idiots being exposed for their…ahem…embellishments and racist, socialists agenda.
Posted by: Tom | March 25, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Of course!! Just another minor issue to put the attention back on Clinton. This is pretty sad. Look at what politics has come to, we can’t even respectfully debate the issues. This is a sad attempt to make Clinton look bad. Why does no one look at the good things the Clinton family has done for America? Richardson is a joke! Even when he was running for president, how can anyone take that man seriously, now’s he’s just looking for a new job.
Hillary ’08
Posted by: Jonath | March 25, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
These poor, pathetic people call themselves Americans. They purport to love our way of life, yet are willing to change their party affiliation and cast a false vote to boost one who they feel is weaker. I though that the goal was to vote for the person we think will best represent our own feelings on the future.
We have become a country of ignoramuses.
Posted by: John | March 25, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Hillary is a true survivor and a fighter. She made a huge comeback in New Hampshire after she lost Iowa. When we thought she would dropped out of the race after her defeat in South Carolina, she bounced back on Super Tuesday with big wins in California, NJ, NY and Massachusetts. Winning both Ohio and Texas also mark another huge comeback for her. Now, all she needs to do is the win Penn, Indiana, West Viginia, Puerto Rico. and surpass Obama in popular votes and she would no doubt be our nominee. At that point, perhaps Obama would need to consider the “Tanya Harding Option”.
Posted by: jayjay | March 25, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Jonath:
Let me get this right. She works for WALMART for several years, takes a 8yr photo-op at the white house, wins office in NY because of her name and now, SPITUNK! She’s ready to be president?
Posted by: Hold up. | March 25, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
All Americans know she will lie ,cheat, steal& throw the kitchen sink and now table at Barack. The white house belongs to her so she thinks and believes She has earned it. She needs to learn that the world does not revolve around her and her wants.
Posted by: Lauren | March 25, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
I have long known come to realize this, it is no news to me.
Posted by: Michael | March 25, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
I don’t understand what people are so afraid of? Let’s let the people have a say and stop selling Clinton short. The Tanya Harding comment is yet another sexist remark that would never be made if Clinton were a man. So all the folks worried about Race – let’s take a look at the deeply rooted sexism that Obama fails to address and that is a bigger issue than the comments of his preacher. When he stops being silent on these sexist attacks and begins addresses the sexism of this country – then he will have proven he is a different kind of politician until then he is cut from the same cloth as every other politician including the jerk who made this comment. I say let’s have the person’s name so we know not to vote for them again.
Posted by: Denver | March 25, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
Hillary should go home and pray for those bold face lies she has been saying..SHE’S THROUGH..
Posted by: Edna | March 25, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Hillary should go home and pray for those bold face lies she has been saying..SHE’S THROUGH..
Posted by: Edna | March 25, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
The woman is a walking mental nut job who is taking orders from Penn and Wolfson who in turn are pulling BIG bucks from her so there is no hope unless the powers that be step in and bring her machine to a halt. Penn and Wolfson won’t because once she’s outa the race their paycheck goes in the toilet…but hey to all you Clinton supporters…go ahead and keep sending the liar money and to the people on PA? Go ahead and vote for her…and then you too can lie when this is over and say you didn’t. Clinton proved she is a liar when the truth would have done her better.
Posted by: Sam | March 25, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
It is ironic that HRC would be accused of “knee-capping” Obama, dividing the DP, thwarting the will of the people (Obama folks), etc. because she will not Quit.
It is as amazing, as it is ironic, that the supporters of “the great uniter” (ala “Bush’s mantra and style” of uniting) want her to “UNIFY” the party by quiting. Her quiting would only deepen the riff at this point and make Obama totally unelectable.
When she goes, so do a large number of the millions who support her and have cast votes for her. I am one of those, I take my vote, my money, and my ability to influence others.
I have no desire to see a united Democratic party, if it is going to be united on the terms of those I personally “see as a mirror image” of the far-right wing of the Repub party!
I send her money and e-mails not to quit, as do millions. She is not a “quiter”, she is a “fighter”, as are we (her supporters). Her “fighting” is all the more reason to elect her, and to know she will do the same for our country.
Posted by: Mike in Texas | March 25, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
For the sake of arugment, let’s assume that Clinton’s “experience” as First Lady is exaggerated (or even grossly exaggerated). It is still far more experience than Obama has. In an effort to discredit Clinton, it is a mistake to minimize the role of the First Lady. While First Lady, Clinton was accused of having far too much influence. Did everyone forget that? So while she is First Lady she is accused of having too much influence, and now that she talks about that influence in her campaign, we are saying it is fictional. Does anyone really believe Hillary didn’t have influence in policy while Bill was in office? Come on people. But this is an aside. You guys are KILLING the Democrats chances of winning in November. STOP. Our only line should be, “Both candidates will make excellent Presidents and we support whomever gets the nomination”. We have lost sight of the fact that we are supposed to be on the same side. And before you tell me it is Hillary or it is Barack that has lost side of that – I ‘ll tell you I don’t care. We need to be bigger than that. The Republicans are laughing their rears off, seeing the Democratic party tear themselves apart. If we lose in November, it is because we deserve it.
Posted by: nifer | March 25, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
“I just wish SOMEONE would TRY and tell me WHY Obama is even running ??? ”
Posted by: Dave | Mar 25, 2008 5:22:39 PM
Simple answer. He’s a clean, articulate, black man recruited by elite white Liberals to help assuage them of their guilt over their own success and the country’s racist history. Any other questions?
Posted by: zippitydooda | March 25, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
We in China pay lotta money to Clinton,
If she no break this Obamba, we still break America´s back. We send lotta toys with lead paint think you all stupid now. Clinton promise they wrap this up real good. No problem, McCain just so good for China too. Make 100 year war, China get very rich. Clintons get rich, we all win.
Posted by: Nil ish | March 25, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Americans, Why, Why, Why, are we so hateful with each other. Up until BHO became a viable candidate, all you could do was say how positive he was. Now, the only thing that can be used against him are words “someone” else said. I don’t read or hear a word about
McCain abd his “misinformed” preacher.
You voted for “W” twice. Now, be honest, don’ you think this reflects on your intelligence?
Posted by: Jdub | March 25, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
As a big Obama supporter and a clinton fan(more bill than hill), the clintons are going to try my patience. Both mccain and clinton are huge lobbyist insider players and the people now know it very obviously. The establishment Democrats saw republicans winning elections and decided to mimic them as a ploy to win elections. The republicans fostered the outsourcing of jobs and the destroy the middleman theory(thanky billy boy gates), and the DEMS joined in as seen by a speech given by Terry McAuliffe and Al From that can be easily retrieved from the archives. Terry(chairman of anything) McAuliffe now heads Hillarys campaign and I keep wondering where is Al From???? James Carville is suspect as soon as he gets up in the morning becasue he and Mary matalin give me the CREEPS. The Bible warns you about the insects that CREEP upon the earth and those are 2 fine examples. Carville is looking very bad on the health end of things and if he indulged in too much cocaine, he now looks the part, don’t he???? If you want change and want to attack the lobbyist swill then Obama is the obvious choice and many voters know it. I say landslide these insider con artists and you also attack the MAINSCREAM clown media who prop that stuff up daily. Israel, you got taken badly and the quicker you realize it the better off you will be. CASE CLOSED…NEXT!!!!
Posted by: daddyblue | March 25, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Comparing Hillary Clinton to Tonya Harding is ridiculous and certainly isn’t news worthy. Senator Obama has been totally UNABLE to win a big state othe rather than his own, and only he can be to blame for this race continuing. Someone please tell me that isn’t true.
Posted by: Geneva | March 25, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
I Think alot of people are afraid to have a women running the White House.. But The Main issue is Medical, Poor and the Elderly! The Disabled and how are country is in debt.. Who will get is out of it !!!!
Posted by: Chassity | March 25, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Obama, I has let me and many of friends down because you still have not answered the crucial question “Why did you choose to stay with that church for twenty years knowing that Farrakhan was honored with a lifetime achievement by that same church?” I wanted to believe in you because you were inspirational and seemed different than other politicans. However, I am now starting to lose my faith.
Posted by: Danny | March 25, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
I’ve followed politics for over 30 years and I have never seen such insanely biased coverage of a political figure…as I do every day of the week regarding Hillary Clinton. (And by the way, I’ll vote for Hillary or Obama, and find many things about both that I like and dislike.)
Every day, somebody tries to outdo another of the supposed political insider reporters to come up with a new catch phrase that spreads across the internet, finally reaching the ultimate fools…the TV talking heads.
Today: It’s the Tanya Harding Headline…good lord.
Posted by: Frieda | March 25, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
If a Tonia Harding option were available to bring Obama down, either Hillary used it or McCain would use it. From where I sit, the only person who can Tonia Harding Obama is himself, but Tonia Harding is a misnomer – it should be called the ‘Obama is always Wright’ option.
Posted by: esvida | March 25, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
clintons are power hungry and just like birds, they poop on everything.
Posted by: Tim love | March 25, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
I am an Independent, but I don’t think the Democrats need to worry excessively about the general election. Yes, the Republicans will use the fear-and-smear tactics of their Slime Machine again. To them, its like breathing. They have to do it.
Given the way the country regards the Republicans now–and the disastrous eight years of their rule–the Slime Machine is all that remains to them.
Could they run as fiscal conservatives? Having inherited a 500 Billion surplus and turned it into eight years of staggering deficits? What about putting a trillion-dollar war on a credit card?
Can they run as the party of small government, having expanded the federal government so enormously? Total surveillance and data-mining dragnets don’t seem like “small government” hallmarks do they?
Can they run as the party of strong defense, when the military readiness is at the lowest point in 15 years? When they went into Iraq blindly, recklessly, with too few troops, and un-armored vehicles?
Can they run as the Free Market is God party, when the financial system is teetering on the brink of collapse?
The key thing is to tie McSame to Bush, his presidency, and his policies. Be absolutely relentless in doing that. Link him to the war. Shove Iraq down his gullet again and again and again.
So don’t be overly-concerned by the “gloating” posts here from the 24% of the population that think Bush is doing a good job. Take heart that 66% percent thinks he’s run the country into the ditch.
Posted by: IceNine | March 25, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
What is wrong with Obama’s church? I have listen to the whole sermon and the pastor did not say anything wrong. Why don’t you guys listen to it too and quit whinning.
Posted by: Al Daniels | March 25, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
If the comments in this thread represent the average American level of intelligence, I’m very frightened for our future.
Don’t believe everything you’re told–research and read multiple news sources! It’s the only way to get the whole story.
Posted by: Shelly | March 25, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Oh if Obama represents hope and change and he equates to the new kind of politics, what the he*ll was he doing with REZKO ?!!!!!? Perhaps they were at that coffee shop chatting about meditation and mind and body cleansing?
Posted by: matt | March 25, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
The Democratic convention is in August, people, August! That is nearly five months. Anything can happen to make either Obama or Hillary unelectable. So, get a grip. I am inclined to think it will be Obama who folds his tent. Wright is just the first bombshell disclosure. There is no telling what else will come out.
Posted by: David H | March 25, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
NOT THIS TIME, HILLARY!
Posted by: Katy | March 25, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
You Obama fans can come up with as many excuses as you want to defend Obama and his church. We all heard those hateful sermons. Words are words, they were taken out of context. No matter how much you love your country, you just cannot say “G.D. America”
Posted by: matt | March 25, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
THE only hope that obama gives is that he will lose!!!
Posted by: john | March 25, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
The media has failed to do justice to Rev. Wright.
If he was white man he would be a hero.
Has served 3 Presidents.
Even the Clintons have not done their homework, from someone who is ready from day one.
Posted by: Nilesh | March 25, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
I think people are reading too much into Rev Wright. I read and heard what he said. He is not preaching hate. He basically is blaming our foreign policies for 9/11. We have done things overseas that we had no business doing and they hate us for it. And now this mess with Iraq makes us left safe and more vunerable.
Posted by: erin | March 25, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
So the worst thing Obama has ever done is go to a church where the minister shot off at the mouth and said some terrible things? Big deal. If that is the worst they have on him, we have an extremely elected candidate.
Posted by: LSSF | March 25, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
I would like to know why obama is in such a hurry to have clinton drop out, what is the point in living in a country where we have “free elections” is we cannot have two canidates be able to let the public choose, unless ob is afraid that the public is starting to see past the picture the media is painting of him. wright? landing in bosnia? I think wright’s comments have done more to seperate the country, the canidates, if ob has such great character why did he not take his family to go visit granny and mend those fences. He has lost so many votes people will not vote for him in ge mccain will win. ob will not be able to stand up to him, mccain will stomp on him like a bug, we are in a war, the economy is in horrible shape, we need healthcare, and we need someone who truly wants the country to go forward, ob supporters are the ones who needs to see past skin color
Posted by: lrdash | March 25, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Hillary and Bill find it frustrating to suddenly realize that Americans are fade up with them and are eager for REAL CHANGE. She thought she was so powerful only to discover she doesn’t have the eagle eyes (vision) for the present dat US. ‘Without vision the peple perish’ – Bible. This is why she is ready not only to die but to pull everyone to her pit of failure. Her selfishness is spoken off all over the world!
Posted by: Ambrose | March 25, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
All you people that come on these blogs and post that you would never vote for Obama should think it over. Hillary can’t win this nomination and if you would not vote for the eventual nominee of the democratic party then you should not be registered as democrats at all.
Obama will win the nomination and if he does and you haters don’t vote for him you will get exactly what you deserve…. JOHN McBUSH
Posted by: David | March 25, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
And the anonymous Democratic Party Official is …………………………………….Barack Obama!!!!!
Posted by: MattOhio | March 25, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
The last time I check this was a competition. Hillary Clinton should do what it takes to win. As should all the candidates. If you want something, fight for it! Nothing wrong with that!
Frankly, I am a republican, I am not sold on John McCain, so I was taking a look at CLinton myself. I admire her willingness to stand her ground.
She’s a fighter, that’s what this couuntry needs now. Is someone to fight for its people, that are not in to top income bracket.
Posted by: Joe M | March 25, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Jake,
Is the “impartial” DNC official’s name DONNA BRAZILLE?
She should come out and endorse Obama and be done with it. We all know who sshe has been supporting since last year?
Posted by: Tom | March 25, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
The comparison of Mrs. Clinton to Tonya Harding just made me laugh.
Thanks!
Posted by: R.L. Allen | March 25, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Finally a major news outlet reports the truth about the Clintons. Too bad it’s in the blog section of their website.
Posted by: MannyFesto | March 25, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
If Hillary has something on Obama she should bring it out NOW. Because if she can do it, then McCain could in the general election. Bring it on Hill. Take his knees out.
Posted by: Wendy | March 25, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
The 1990s were a wonderful time compare to the 1980S and the last 8 years Bush has been President. 23 million jobs were created, the lowest black and latino unemployment in US history, the biggest surpluses in US history. Land preserved for parks instead of commercial use was the highest since the Teddy Roosvelt administration. The lowest crime and abortion rates since the 1960s. The longest economic expansion since world war II.
A record of black judges being appointed to federal and state courts.
A record of women appointments in the federal government.
The 1990s were a decade of peace and prosperity.
And was our President?
A Clinton
CASE CLOSED
Posted by: haris bisias | March 25, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
While Obama and Clinton slug it out, get ready for the Bush/McCain administration.
Posted by: newz4i | March 25, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Would one of you Hillary supporters please explain why it’s so important for Hillary to win!
Posted by: steve | March 25, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Obama’s Camp has gone to the gutter.
No one is fooled with what they are up to.
However, they have only smeared themselves.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | March 25, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Would one of you Obama supporters explain why it’s so important for Obama to win!
Posted by: steve | March 25, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Hahaha. Just step out to show your face and name.
Obama is gone. If he is not gone this Sept. he is gone this Nov.. Just ask yourself, which candidate, from Republican to Democratic to independent, can survive this paster/church scandle?
Posted by: UScitizen2144 | March 25, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Hillary is a supposedly part of this group — What is it???
Washington, D.C., is home to a powerful secret organization that is hell-bent on hastening the return of Jesus.
A secret cult has infiltrated our nation’s capital. Its members are among the most influential figures in the world. Its ultraconservative agenda is aimed at seducing members of Congress into promoting the organization’s interests, dictating foreign policy and encouraging Armageddon.
Since 1952 the U.S. President, along with a host of lawmakers, military brass, foreign heads of state and spiritual leaders, has attended the annual National Prayer Breakfast in Washington, D.C. It seems innocent enough. The affair gives the powerful and wealthy a chance to unite and share their faith. However, most Americans don’t know that this very public event is sponsored by a secretive fundamentalist Christian organization operating from across the Potomac in Arlington, Virginia. Among its members are senators, congressmen and corporate executives who foster the link between the religious movement, the federal government and Big Business.
The organization’s official name is the Fellowship Foundation, but it’s more commonly known as the Fellowship or the Family. Its membership is a closely guarded secret, and there are no official dues. Members are told to keep silent about the group and its activities.
Neighbors of the Fellowship Foundation call its brethren the “pod people.” Nearly everyone who speaks about the group insists on anonymity-and there may be good reason. The Fellowship is said to be a covert player in many important political and diplomatic decisions.
Katherine Yurica, an expert on fundamentalist religious groups, describes the Fellowship as postmillennial Christian Dominionist, a sect whose goal is to hasten the end of the world and Jesus’s return. Many of the faithful believe this will come to fruition in the form of all-out nuclear war, which will lead to Armageddon-the final battle between Christ and the Antichrist.
A U.S. government higher-up claims, on the condition of anonymity, that the Fellowship (which operates as a nonprofit organization) is merely a tax dodge for Big Business interests. “They use religious members as dupes to further their nonreligious goals,” says the official.
Posted by: Beverly Hillbilly | March 25, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
AFTER THIS GENERAL ELECTION 2008 THE DNC SHOULD KICK OUT AS CHAIRMAN. HE REALLY SCREWED UP THE DNC THAT’S WHY HE DID NOT GET THE NOMINATION LAST TIME.
Posted by: Sam Lim | March 25, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Sam Lim- I agree, there is something underhanded, scheming and vindictive that you can see in this man. Every time some one confronts him, he crys unfair or victim…that’s just the president I wan’t dealing with our foriegn nieghbors.
Posted by: Candi | March 25, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
This is ridiculous. No candidate can be held responsible for anyone else’s comments or point of view. They can only be responsible for their own. Whatever happened to discussing the issues? Also, isn’t it funny how the Clinton’s play with words? Hillary didn’t lie about Bosnia (wink, wink), she just “misspoke.” (More than once, I might add)And as soon as her honesty came into question she threw the Reverend Wright story right back out there. She will do anything to win, plain and simple. Unfortunately, that includes destroying the Democratic Party in which case no one will win. I have far less respect for the Clinton’s now than I did before South Carolina. And the Reverend Wright comments were pushed by Fox News and not shown in context.
Obama 08
Al Franken 08
Posted by: Chris | March 25, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
I love Hillary and I am tired of all the negatives about her and her supporters. I can’t see that they are doing anything more negative than what I have seen in the past few years even in local elections.
I wish the media would focus on the issues and keep from bringing up stuff that no one should really care about. I am tired of the Bill/Monica thing. So what, it was none of our business to begin with. She is crucified by some for staying with him. Well isn’t that what Christians are supposed to do, forgive and honor your promise “for better, for worse”. Anybody keeping score ???? – it seems to me that all these powerful men have had a fling or two or twenty. Half of those self righteous Republicans who wanted to impeach Clinton had had numerous affairs and several had illegimate children that they had supported for years. Private lives should be kept personal. We should be looking for a leader who is intellectually gifted and pledged to make decisions in the best interests of us all.
I think Hillary best fits the bill. Obama is obviously bright and ambitious.
He’d be O.K. but I would rather see him in this position in another eight years. We are in trouble, thanks to Bush and Friends, we will need strong leadership for many years to come.
Posted by: jr64 | March 25, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
Clinton doesn’t need to bring anything out about Obama, Fox will do it. The candidates don’t need to do too much to find dirt nowadays, they just need to wait until it drops in their lap. The Wright thing was around for quite sometime, in fact there was mention of it in a article in a 2007 edition of Rolling Stone and various other articles throughout the Country- the press just opted to not pick up on it for some reason.
Posted by: alpaig | March 25, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
What a lot of people don’t realize is that most politicans have a respect for each other even though there is disagreement. Hillary and John McCain genuinely respect each other. I don’t think Obama and Hillary respect each other, or at least their supporters don’t. Most of Hillary’s supporters recognize that experience does mean something and that there are a lot of questions about what they would really get with Obama as president and McCain isn’t all that distasteful to them. Heck, McCain started out as a democrat and has thought about returning to the party in recent years. There are a lot of liberals running the democratic party right now: Pelosi, Dean, Kerry and they have done a lot of maneuvering against Hillary this campaign. I doubt that this is true, but it’s interesting speculation.
Posted by: sarnorton | March 25, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Let America Continue to Hate Herself
It’s no wonder why the young and the educated support Obama. Reading some of these posts makes one wonder how do some people breathe without help… The lack of intelligence out there is scary. I wonder what some of you all do for a living? Remember, you put Bush in office so I hope you are doing very well-hope your job didn’t get outsourced (Hillary, McCain, and Bush’s big idea).
Posted by: Jay | March 25, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Would one of you Hillary supporters please tell me why it is so important for Hillary to win? Come on folks, get real here!
Posted by: Mike | March 25, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
And David Axlerod is Shawn Eric Eckardt (the hit man) and Obama is Gillooly (Tonya’s ex-husband).
Posted by: lois | March 25, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
If Clinton had a 1% chance to win… she’d go for it… or at least make sure no one gets it.
Her poor “leadership” character is really showing.
Posted by: chris | March 25, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
I think Bill Richardson got it right when he said there is a sense that the Clinton campaign feels the Presidency is an entitlement for them.It’s a race that is already over and mostly because HRC ran an arrogant campaign that didn’t bother to do the little things like returning to Iowa in time to secure her delegates and Edward’s as well.This arrogance has put her impossibly behind and too pigheaded to realize that she’s done.
Posted by: bskahn | March 25, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Jake, I think you sleeping! The media has not missed this point. The pundits have used several metaphors reporting this issue for the last couple of weeks.
If Obama was not a african american “break his back” would NEVER be an issue raised. Double standard! I am so sick of the hearing the “Clinton will do anything to win”. The flip side: Obama will not!
What the hell is the democratic party leadership smoking? Do they honestly think the republican are not going to “break his back”? I am feed up with the DNC, Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean!
They better put the kool-aide glasses down, stop the love feast and get fighting! I want to see some blood!
Posted by: Becker | March 25, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Some of the comments on this thread are shameful and disgusting from Obama supporters.
Just read where the US one of the most is one of the most unstable countries of civilized nations( #93 out of 100). Now I see why.
Posted by: Maggie05 | March 25, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
If the national media would pick up some reputable stories, we can see that Obama has already broken his own back. Whatever boneheaded things HIllary has done during this campaign, including her account of her trip to Bosnia, they are not as boneheaded as making advantageous real estate deals with a shady fundraiser who was under Federal investigation at the time and is now in jail. Not as boneheaded as exaggerating one’s drug use in one’s book and then we find out in a NY Times investigative piece that it just didn’t happen that way. (Why exaggerate drug use? Does it make you part of “the hood,” like sitting in Pastor Wright’s church? For this underreported story, go to: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/09/us/politics/09obama.html?fta=y) And not as boneheaded as exaggerating your role in passing legislation when, in fact, you’ve taken authorship of legislation that was worked on and authored by other lawmakers (for this underreported story go to: http://www.dallasobserver.com/2008-02-28/news/obama-and-me/ … and also go to: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/23/AR2008032301706.html?nav=rss_email/components) Why aren’t these stories, written by reputable journalists, reported nationally? Read and find out why Obama is an empty suit. You equate Sen. Clinton with Harding? How about Sen. Obama as the ultimate bamboozler of all political time? This guy is outrageous. The old liberal guard of the Democratic party hand picked this guy to run for president and the public isn’t letting him run away with it. For a good reason. He’s not who he says he is. Not on any level.
Posted by: Mandelay3 | March 25, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
I would like to know who this anonymous Democratic official is. I mean come on…everyone is taking sides. To compare Clinton’s campaign to what Tonya Harding did is just wrong. When is the media going to ask the tough questions of Obama? I agree with a comment made here about how Obama is always crying “foul”. His supporters are some of the most negative, hateful individuals that I have come into contact with. When I say that I am voting for Hillary, I am called a racist. All they can do is bash the Clinton’s. I am sick of Hillary’s supporters having to walk on eggshells for fear of the media spinning everything they do and say into a major news story.
I was an Obama supporter early on, but realized, late last year, that this man seemed to be all talk and no action. I was awe-struck by his speeches. There is just no substance there…no good work, no history…that would make him a good president in my eyes.
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | March 25, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
I sincerely hope that Hillary does do anything necessary to defeat Obama. The fraud he is perpetrating on the American public is shameful.
Posted by: Fred | March 25, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Hillary lied it’s simple as that. If people want to vote for someone that lie go ahead. Talking about wright she made a point that we have the choice on who is our pastor but she forgot also that we also have that choice for our spouse.
Posted by: leche | March 25, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Hillary, just dump the Democratic Party like a hot potato, Honey. Run as an Independent…we got your back.
Posted by: Kneecaps | March 25, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
Has anyone heard anything more about the Obama passport scandal. The last I heard his passport file was entered 3 times and the guy that did it was employed by a company whose owner is one of Obama’s supporters. So they figured the file was breached to find information and perhaps change the information to benefit Obama. Anyone heard anything else?
Posted by: sarnorton | March 25, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
I hate Hillary, but this article is lame and unfair. There is plenty to rip on. Please knock this crap off.
Posted by: billy smith | March 25, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
It seems to me that it take extreamly low IQ and total gulability to continue reading this blog out
Posted by: jackie | March 25, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
To jr64
It is one thing to love or admire somebody but it takes a lot of courage to move on beyond our admiration for the sake of our nation. America is facing difficult issues that need to be adresses by smart educated people an these people made their choices.
Posted by: leche | March 25, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Hillary would never win as an independent. McCain would win the white house because the dem vote would be split
Posted by: lisa | March 25, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
I am quite shocked that some of the party big wigs are forcing Mrs. Clinton to quit the race. And these are democrats? Why can’t the rest of the nation have its say?
Certainly, she may lose because she has less than a 10 percent chance. But does she or for that matter any candidate not have the right to run as long as some people are supporting and providing resources?
I do not think that Mrs. Clinton can damage Mr. Obama. On the contrary, I think this may be good for him to face the republican attacks later.
Besides, if Mr. Obama is as perfect as the some of these “great” leaders think, why will he be damaged? Are they covering up something that people should not find out?
This is utter nonsense and as far from democracy as it can get. At least now we know that some of the democratic leaders are closer to autocrats than democrats.
Quite interesting and audacious that the left-wing liberals are showing their true thirst for POWER.
Posted by: Onlooker | March 25, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
user168: Thanks for answering that question. I posted the same about Hillary and didn’t receive an answer, so I guess there isn’t an answer for her.
Posted by: steve | March 25, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
No. No. No.
Hillary is Bush where being the winner is the only important aspect of this election. Who needs a political party when you can have a dictatorship?
Posted by: dc | March 25, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
I feel my IQ dropping just by reading this post! I was so excited to see the implosion of the Dems; thinking to myself that McCain is great. Then, McCain opened his mouth again and I realized how doomed we all are! What an idiot! How screwed are we? On the one side, we have 2 lying, incompetent liberal pieces of crap and on the other, we have a liberal, moronic fool! May God help us all (oops, I’m sorry, didn’t mean to bring the big man into it). Additionally, I would like to out that in my “white elitists” church, we blame the poor black man for all our troubles. Ya, right! Our preacher/priest does his sermons on love, tolerance and forgiveness; not hate and blame! As I see it, we should accept no less from all communities nation wide than both separation of church and state and separation of state and church!
Posted by: Jeremy | March 25, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Talk about a politician through and through. You can not convince me that Obama never heard his minister speak ill of the United States as he has been reported to have said. I would have to say Barrack is not telling the truth here. I find it hard to believe he attended this church for 20 years and never heard a sermon similar to this one. I also find it hard to believe a man with his education would even attend a church such as this. He is only a member of this congregation to gather votes for every election year. When you want to see a calculating politician just look at your own Barrack Obama.
Posted by: Linda | March 25, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Obama lied about not hearing the sermons. He did not even come out and say that he did not hear the 9/11 sermon by Wright. He left too much wiggle room. His explanation kept changing.
He lied BIG and he is trying to divert attention. If he can’t stand up to Hillary, he should go back to southside Chicago.
Posted by: Roger Miller | March 25, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
Jake, next time you talk to Donna Brazille tell her she can come out of hiding now, we all know she is the “anonymous” DNC official.
Posted by: Jane | March 25, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Another example of media bias favoring Obama. What kind of comparisoin is this?
There are millions of people that believe Hillary is the right candidate to solve this country’s problems. How about our voices.
The primary is about picking the right candiate. Where does it say she has to drop off after Super Tuesday? If Super Tuesday is the final day to pick a candidate and the primary rules should be changed.
I think the American people realize that the media bias against Hillary gave a favorable advantage to Obama, pratically a free ticket. Now that his background, voting record is be scrutized more, the “real” Obama is coming to light and the American public dont like what they see. All along, just empty speeches but no substances from Obama.
Posted by: mary | March 25, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Hilary and every other political figure should have spoken up against such anti-American comments. We voted these people in and they don’t even have the courageto stand up for our great nation. They are too scared to make a stand. You go Hilary.
Posted by: Decided | March 25, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Quote from Anonymous Democratic Party Official: “She will have to destroy Obama, make Obama completely unacceptable.” Message for the “Anonymous Democratic Party Official”. Haven’t you heard the news? Obama has already made himself completely unacceptable to most of the American public. And he’s already been trying to destroy her. Really this reporter’s article tends to remind me of a tabloid what with it’s unnamed source and all. Why didn’t you take the following information and make it into something sensational as well? Here’s a quote from the Washington Post (google it) January 2008 “The natural reminder here is O.J. [Simpson] — how does an African American candidate attack a white woman?” quote by Jesse Jackson Jr.(D-Ill) and Obama’s campaign co-chair. We’re just waiting for the mainstream media to catch up here and give us some cold hard facts on Obama and his associates. Here’s hoping Hillary can shed some light on the matter!
Posted by: WeNeedFairReporting | March 25, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
This is absolutely disgusting. Hillary loses either way. She will do permanent damage to her political career and her legacy. She will become the most despised political figure in America.
Posted by: Enrique | March 25, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
This is absolutely disgusting. Hillary loses either way. She will do permanent damage to her political career and her legacy. She will become the most despised political figure in America.
Posted by: Enrique | March 25, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Why Clinton need to break his leg. He has already had a broken leg from his church scandal or his judgement in staying that church for 20 years. He knew he is not able to win any states left, that is why he objects to Michigan and Florida’s voting results or revotes.
Posted by: UScitizen2144 | March 25, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Hillary is an evil person, with so much information out there it defies belief that people still support her.
Posted by: Patriot 2008 | March 25, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
She can’t do anything to Obama the Republicans won’t do to him after he’s nominated.
Its called politics. Fighters win. Whiners usually don’t in the end run.
If she does put him throught the ringer, which she hasn’t, she will be doing the Democrats a favour.
The Republicans won”t play nice and if he can’t deal with the big guns then he shouldn’t be nominated.
Posted by: s.b. | March 25, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Hillary is one disgusting individual. She is pathetic.
Posted by: Enrique | March 25, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
If Hillary wins I will be supporting John McCain. I am sick of the Clintons and their devisive tactics.
Posted by: JMT | March 25, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
She can’t do anything to Obama the Republicans won’t do to him after he’s nominated.
Its called politics. Fighters win. Whiners usually don’t in the end run.
If she does put him throught the ringer, which she hasn’t, she will be doing the Democrats a favour.
The Republicans won”t play nice and if he can’t deal with the big guns then he shouldn’t be nominated.
Posted by: s.b. | March 25, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Hillary and Bill have permanently damaged their legacies. Their true colors are being revealed and they are ugly.
Posted by: Enrique | March 25, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
OBAMA DID NOT LIE, HE SAID HE WASN’T IN CHURCH WHEN THOSE TWO PARTICULAR SERMONS THAT HAVE BEEN CIRCULATED WERE GIVEN. Clinton supporters at least tell the truth since your candidate doesn’t know how too.
Posted by: dw | March 25, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Well at least we know know that Hillary cares more about herself than her party.
Given what was said by this official, the question really is if Hillary is the nominee is not whether or not she will lose, but by how much.
Posted by: Jason | March 25, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Hillary is evil and a miserable person . Many Americans, know win at any all cost..So Dem’s you better stop her now while you can. cuz shortly very shortly a massive unfix-able destruction of the party will take place . and all will be able to put the blame squarely where it belong on the Clinton’s Hillary head.
Supers can get rid of her now by vote and supporting Barack Obama. Do you job save this party.
Posted by: lauenpow | March 25, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
Hillary has guaranteed that she will NOT win the nomination. Her political career is OVER. She’ll be lucky to win re-election in the Senate in 2010.
Posted by: Enrique | March 25, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
To “I H8 Obama”
you are obviously a Republican…so back off.
Posted by: NiceKid | March 25, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Janet stop being so closed minded. He is a Christian. And I’m glad he speaks highly of Muslims, what is wrong with that. And maybe just maybe he can help the US mend fences with the muslim countries like getting us out of Iraq. But if Gore was running it would be bye bye to everyone else.
Posted by: erin | March 25, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
I H8 Obama, don’t switch parties, vote for Mike Gravel.
Posted by: steve | March 25, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
From the very begining, media supported Obama. They were and are mean to Clinton.If Obama becomes president, he will bring misery and disaster to the country. I am for Clinton. She is still our best choice. I say bye bye to Obama.
Posted by: Bob | March 25, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Hillary Clinton is a sore loser. She just can’t accept defeat. She is now on a mission to destroy the Democratic party and hand George W. Bush a third term in the form of John McCain. Disgusting.
Posted by: Enrique | March 25, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
How many of you commentators here actually have a heart for the millions of innocent Iraqi men, women and Children who have been killed, maimed, displaced and forever torn apart by this senseless conflict? Why then do you wonder why they will HATE you? Hundreds of years down the road, your children will also wonder why they hate you and choose not to forget these crimes against them. That is how you want the 200yrs of slavery to forgotten too.. Oh nation of no conscience.
Posted by: Churchill | March 25, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Cal me an Obama Girl if you like but I’m liking him more and more every day.
Tiger Woods in a suit!
Posted by: Billk | March 25, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Why isn’t the media also showing the things that Obama has embellished on like claiming to be a law professor at a university where he is only a lecturer? He’s a liar too… But he is also a liar that associates with Rev. Wright. I’ll take a white lie over a trip to Bosnia over lies about Wright any day. Then Obama lied about knowing what had been said but later changed his story and said he had heard those sermons… HE IS A LIAR.. If the most you can complain about Hillary Clinton is that she lies you need to quit voting for politicians and go on a mormon mission and preach your goody two shoes crap somewhere else… This is politics …people lie… It’s not big deal.. What is a big deal is being involved with preachers of HATE… It sends a bad public image to the world and the country… Obama is unelectable because he is sterotyped now as the TYPICAL BLACK MAN WHO TAKES EVERY CRACK AGAINST HIM AS BEING RACIST. Get over the lies and see the real political picture.
Posted by: OKJester | March 25, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
I would very much like to see a non-racist, America-loving candidate in the White House come 2009. That means a choice of two: Hillary Clinton or John McCain. What do I care what happens to that racist, America-hating Obama? Break his back… break his spirit… break whatever you have to. GO HILLARY! OR, MC CAIN!
Posted by: Sharx | March 25, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
you mean the Tonya Harding move that the DNC pulled on Fl and MI – kneecapped the voices of millions of people who voted and want to re-vote?
not only is this anonymous “democratic party official” despicable – to blame Clinton for Rev Wright and the 20 years that Obama sat in his pews is completely wrongheaded.
Posted by: bbln | March 25, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
If you take a look at the Hillary supporter’s posts, and then those of the Obama supporters, one thing is very striking; Hillary supporters are literally uneducated and ignorant. Amazing.
Hillary got the dumb, intolerant vote, good for her! Who knew that 32% of the Democratic Party were racist, uneducated bigots? I thought the repubs had that demographic locked down.
:/
Posted by: Billy | March 25, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
The news media has already decided that Obama is the anointed one. This article is just another example.
Posted by: Neo Politicus | March 25, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
Stick by your Hillary all you want, but she’s proving to be a pathetic sore loser. Her political career is over. She is DONE!
Posted by: Enrique | March 25, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
The sad fact of the matter is this… people WANT to see others being torn apart and ripped into. People are inherently barbaric. So, to watch clinton spew her hate on a regular basis seeminly ripping Obama a new one is a good sight for those barbarians who support Clinton. However, those who are more intellectual know that the high road is best. Obama has been taking the high road this whole time. Congrats to him for running a solid campaign based on GOOD thoughts and not all this negative garbage. He always rises above by standing on top of the rubble of all those kitchen sinks thrown at him. So hey, One thing to think about… Hilary said she would never have Wright as HER pastor…. well how come she’s still staying married to Bill Clinton when he had MANY affairs behind her back???? She’s putting moral judgement on Barack because of something someone else did and not leaving. Well MRS CLINTON…. why didn’t YOU leave when Bill basically FKD you over and didn’t care what would become of you and his daughter when he cheated on you in front of the whole dam world? Heard the one about the woman who threw rocks in a glass house?
Posted by: Concerned Citizen | March 25, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
If Clinton can tear down Obama to get the nomination what do you think the Republicans will do if he runs against McCain in the general election??? If Clinton can tear down Obama she SHOULD get the nomination because she will be harder for the Republicans to tear down in November.However,it doesn’t matter anymore who wins the Democratic nomination. Obama supporters won’t vote for Clinton and Clinton supporters won’t vote for Obama… The only ticket that will possibly stand a chance is a Clinton/Obama ticket. If Obama really wanted to make a difference he would go for Clinton VP for 4-8 years,then Pres for another 8 years. 16 years to get the country turned around and embracing the 21st century…. how’s that for a dream????
Posted by: sparklewdc | March 25, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
David Taylor, pay attention. It was John who made the race comments not Linda who you slammed without checking which box went with which name. Be ready as the Clinton political machine stoops to new levels. There is “nothing” that they are not capable of. Barrack is a breath of fresh air, but please, he needs a few senate terms to have the right amount of experience without being an insider. I would hate to lose him now to the Clintonian machine and have him branded un-electible forever.
Posted by: American | March 25, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Hillary Clinton will not win the nomination. So that means that she can NOT win the presidency. She will NOT even win in 2012. Her political career is over. She’s a failure.
Posted by: Enrique | March 25, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
I am a hillary supporter and I am a college graduate with a higher than average income. My children all go to private school and I have never been on welfare. I support Clinton because I have a conscience and I feel that what I have schould be made available to every american. Obama is nothing more than a glamour shot of what people want policitics to be about.
Posted by: Kelly | March 25, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Poll: Obama way ahead in N.C.
21-point lead the largest so far
(Raleigh) News & Observer
Hillary Clinton in N.C. on Thursday
Barack Obama is way up in the latest Democratic tracking poll.
A survey by Public Policy Polling showed the presidential candidate with 55 percent to rival Hillary Clinton’s 34 percent in North Carolina.
The results came after two high-profile speeches by Obama: One on Iraq in Fayetteville, and another in response to video of his minister, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, condemning America.
“This 21 point lead is the largest he has shown in any NC polling to date, and an indication that the Wright controversy isn’t causing him any long term harm at least in this state,” wrote pollster Tom Jensen on his blog.
The automated poll of 673 likely Democratic primary voters was conducted on March 24. The margin of error is plus or minus 3.8 percent. The Democratic polling firm is based in Raleigh.
In the March 17 poll, Obama led 44 to 43.
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Posted by: chyke1 | March 25, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
To “I H8 Obama”
I still cannot believe you can be a democrat…because if you were you would’nt opt for a third term “Bush”
Do me a favor, come clean and admit you are a Republican pushed by Rush limbau and Sean Hannity…It’s not shameful to be a Republican but it is hypocrit to not say so.
Posted by: NiceKid | March 25, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
OMG people. By all means everything a person has done in college, elementary school, high school or in their entire life time should be held against them for all eternity. Hillary supporters are so-self righteous. Yet, no one is holding Hillary accountable for Whitewater. Obama says he wasn’t in church the day Pastor Wright gave the two inflammatory sermons, which wasn’t a lie. Hillary supporters call him liar because he later admits that he has heard him express firery political views which is not the same as saying he was their on those particular sermons. Hillary makes up a complete and total lie about her trip to Bosnia and she calls it “misspoken”. Hillary supporters buy into it.
Posted by: dw | March 25, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
All of you Hillary supporters should let this sink in, Hillary has FAILED. She’s done. Go ahead and vote for John McCain. He’ll appoint ultra conservatives to the Supreme Court that will strip women of their right to choose. He’ll also send your sons and daughters to fight a war against Iran. Go for it.
Posted by: Enrique | March 25, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
OMG people. By all means everything a person has done in college, elementary school, high school or in their entire life time should be held against them for all eternity. Hillary supporters are so-self righteous. Yet, no one is holding Hillary accountable for Whitewater. Obama says he wasn’t in church the day Pastor Wright gave the two inflammatory sermons, which wasn’t a lie. Hillary supporters call him liar because he later admits that he has heard him express firery political views which is not the same as saying he was their on those particular sermons. Hillary makes up a complete and total lie about her trip to Bosnia and she calls it “misspoken”. Hillary supporters buy into it.
Posted by: fw | March 25, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
You know anonimity should be extended to people who have factual information that is important to reveal, but would compromise their position to reveal it.
People who want to spew garbage to malign a candidate should have to be named.
Posted by: s.b. | March 25, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
All I can say is that most of the Obama supporters most likely voted for George W. Bush. And it doesn’t take a College grad to see where those opinions got us…
Posted by: OKJester | March 25, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
McCain will take away a woman’s right to choose.
Posted by: Enrique | March 25, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
What is Barack Obama’s ultimate agenda? I am one of very few white people who made the acquaintance of members of the Black Panther party. I challenge anyone able to define the facts about Obama and the Black Panther party to do so. Youth receive military training in asphalt parking lots, one aim is to over throw the American Government. It may be about to happen folks. Respond and I will give you more. I am surprised the link to the Party was ever listed on the Obama Campaign Website as secrecy is practically hermetic as far as whites are concerned. “They” are very frightened this information is getting out there now. Very frightened. After all surprise is tactical advantage in every conflict and Obama’s hands are dirty!
Posted by: SpeciallyInformed | March 25, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
The “Super Delegates” have a choice. Obama has more delegates going into the convention. If they give the nomination to him they will undoubtedly lose the election. If they give the nomination to Hillary they will prove the true elitism of the DNC and tear the party apart, probably losing the election in the process. I never thought a Republican would be in the White House next year but it looks more and more likely all the time.
Posted by: jijalagi | March 25, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Hillary is a blue chip stock.
Obama is a dot com.
Where do you think voters are going to put their money in Nov?
Posted by: s.b. | March 25, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
JOHN KERRY GAVE BARACK OBAMA THE KISS OF DEATH BY HIS ENDORSEMENT!
That idiot Howard Dean and DNC leadership is stupid enough to give Barack Obama the nomination.
Clinton supports well go to John McCain.
Republican’s rule for four more years.
We the people are not talking about a president John Kerry or Howard Dean!
Posted by: Lance | March 25, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
I believe Obama will win the nomination because he will have the popular vote plus the most delegates. And the super delegates will go with him because of it. But the DNC will work it out with Hillary that she will be in the cabinet but not VP. Believe it or not a lot of these super delegates really are tired of the Clinton politics. They are ruthless and they need to get off their high horse thinking this is owed to them
Posted by: erin | March 25, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
I am so sick of these democrats scratching each others eyes out. To me picking the democratic nominee is like choosing your favorite Menedez brother.
I am disgusted by each candidate and plan to vote for my Golden Retriever. She would do a better job than all 3 candidates
Posted by: Mark | March 25, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
I can’t believe people are still for the “carpet begger” Clinton. Do we really want Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton?
Posted by: airmech | March 25, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Hillary Clinton can NOT win. She’s done. She is now doing the work of John McCain and Republicans.
Posted by: Enrique | March 25, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Mayor Bloomberg to the rescue???
Posted by: Haha | March 25, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Here we go again “throwing grandma under the bus”. Self-righteous Hillary supporters. If something is the truth then it is the truth. So I quess people should go through life never telling anything about their childhood, their parents, sister or brothers. People should never use their family as examples to illustrate or prove a point. People should never tell anything negative about their family. Oh, and God forbid if a person should ever tell that a parent or grandparent child abused them. Of course to Hillary supporters this would mean throwing their parents/grandparents or family members “under the bus”. Hillary supporters are just plain ridiculous.
Posted by: fw | March 25, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Hillary will not win the nomination. Her political career is over. She’ll be lucky to win re-election to the Senate. Her legacy is forever damaged. She’s a FAILURE.
Posted by: Enrique | March 25, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
I’ll consider voting for any candidate who pronounces “nuclear” correctly. And who can correctly differentiate between Shia and Sunni–which rules out McSame.
Posted by: IceNine | March 25, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Hillary lied about Bosnia, lied about her knowledge of illegal contribution funds from a Peter Paul fund raiser.
She promised NY state 200,000 new jobs if elected to senate; result: no new jobs, in fact the state lost 30,000 jobs. She blamed Al Gore??
Hillary has a strong pattern of lying to the people. Pennsylvania beware, do not trust what you here from her. In Ohio before their primary she told voters she was against NFTA while in the White House. After the primary her papers documented that she played a very important role in some support NFTA meetings promoting the benefits.
Does she just misspeak or lie? I know one thing for sure, I can not trust someone who lies about jobs or illegal activity. No trust, no vote!
Posted by: Dave | March 25, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Obama’s not racist. You Hillary supporters/Obama haters don’t have any proof. It’d be pretty difficult for him to hate half of his family. Especially the half that raised him.
Hillary, on the other hand, is a power hungry liar. Every day she remains in this race only buries her political career deeper and deeper.
Posted by: Enrique | March 25, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Like it or not…it is true that many of Clinton’s supporters will either not vote or go with McCain just to stick it to the DNC should Obama get the nomination. How stupid are they? To not allow millions of people the same right that we were given to choose our Democratic nominee for President just because of the state that they choose to live in. The DNC really screwed themselves this time.
It is just wrong…no matter who you are for..no matter what political party that you are affiliated with.
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | March 25, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Privately, aides and associates of Obama tell stories about a boss who can be aloof and ungracious. He holds firmly to views and doesn’t like to be challenged, traits that President Bush packaged and sold under the “resolute” brand in the 2004 election. For Bush, those qualities proved to be dangerous in a time of war and in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
If arrogance is a display of self-importance and superiority, Obama earns the pejorative every time he calls his pre-invasion opposition to the war in Iraq an act of courage.
While he deserves credit for forecasting the complications of war in 2002, Obama’s opposition carried scant political risk because he was a little-known state lawmaker courting liberal voters in Illinois. In 2004, when denouncing the war and war-enabling Democrats would have jeopardized his prized speaking role at the Democratic National Convention, Obama ducked the issue.
Posted by: chris | March 25, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
It is time for Hillary to step back, and devote herself to her party and to the United States Senate. She has a lot to give in her role as a senator. However, her quest for power is not helpful to the Democratic Party, and could result in McCain’s victory.
Posted by: Dave in Spokane | March 25, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
The Clintons have been pulling underhanded stunts the entire campaign. She needs to resign.
Posted by: John Franks | March 25, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
I H8 Obama,
What would you have us do? Wait for the Pres to have an affair before bombing a country? Quite frankly, the Iraq war wasn’t over “oil,” it was over Mr. Insane breaking his surrender agreement from 1991. If we allow the surrender to mean nothing, we lose everything! There is no fear or respect throughout the world (our bark is worse than our bite). Beyond that, we have taken every precaution to ensure the safety of their people without endagering our own. Our soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines are making great strides against an enemy that would have no hesitation in destroying an entire American city much less one of their own. Most of the people of Iraq have been very friendly and helpful in our persuit of the extremist. I would also like to point out how the Dems have claimed that although we don’t support the war, we do support our troops; then, try to cut the funding for our troops protection. Additionally, I would have you check-up on your history! WWII was worth the risk/loss, right? Eventhough we took casualties well after the surrender of the Germans and Japaneese, we are still in Germany and Japan. Your closed, CNN view on this is disturbing!
Posted by: jeremy | March 25, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Obama will win the nomination, its over for Hilary.
Can someone explain why Obama is being blamed for what a pastor said? I don’t get it. If I were a professor and said something in a classroom it doesn’t mean that ever student believes the same thing. If I am father and say something it doesn’t mean my kid believes the same thing. I just don’t get it, guess I don’t watch enough MSM.
Posted by: jeezz | March 25, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
obama’s not racist….he just has racist friends, supporters who call other African-Americans “Uncle Toms” if they support Senator Clinton and he dishonored and abused the name and memory of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. by falsely and maliciously accusing Senator Clinton of somehow diminishing Dr. King’s legacy by simply acknowledging President Johnson’s contribution to Civil Rights, thereby manipulating the sensibilities of the African-American community for his own political gain…..but no, obama’s not racist…..
Posted by: chris | March 25, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
it is impossible for obama to win in November thanks to his supporters, his campaign officials and his own hypocrisy
Posted by: chris | March 25, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
So does this Democratic Party official know about Obama that the rest of us should know?
That is the real question.
Did you think to ask him why he’s so sure she could knee cap him if she chose to?
Won’t the Republicans do it anyways?
A very interesting comment indeed. A real political journalist would have explored that opinion a little further.
Posted by: s.b. | March 25, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Hillary said that she voted for the war in Iraq because Bush lied. Now after watching her lies with a smiling face, are you sure to send another lier to White House? Before you know it, your kids will be on their way to Iran for another war. No Clintons are going to risk their own lives.
Posted by: hubbs | March 25, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
i genuinely feel sorry for obama supporters…..they are so enamored with their political deity obama (although they seem more interested in feeble attempts to destroy Senator Clinton), that when the inevitable downfall of his campaign comes this year, the emotional letdown they experience will be terrible
Posted by: chris | March 25, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Soon and very soon we will get our nominee. It is hard to be patient through all of this. Obama has motivated people like no other candidate has ever motivated people before. He is a true leader. Encouraging self motivation is the best gift someone can give to you.
Posted by: Gray4445 | March 25, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
I don’t know maybe things will change after the Phila,debates.. Maybe better for or worse. However I believe that Pa. will be her last stand. She has to watch what she says, and how she says it. For someone who wants to win she sure is setting herself up to lose. However she still has my vote. Greg
Posted by: greg | March 25, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Soon and very soon we will get our nominee. It is hard to be patient through all of this. Obama has motivated people like no other candidate has ever motivated people before. He is a true leader. Encouraging self motivation is the best gift someone can give to you.
Posted by: Gray4445 | March 25, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
only Senator Clinton is capable of achieving the results that will greatly benefit our children, our troops and America…..you do care about our children, our troops and America, don’t you?
Posted by: chris | March 25, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Despite media comments to the contrary, this race remains too close to call. Take away the chaotic caucus process, and Obama would be far behind. The Wright controversy will not go away and will certainly sink Obama if he is the nominee.
Posted by: K.F. Miller | March 25, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Just one line…if Hillary is the nominee, I will vote for McCain…or just not vote. Going into this, I could have supported either of the democratic candidates, but she doesn’t care about this country…just winning at any cost…which ironically, is impossible now since we all see what she is…bitter and crooked
Posted by: scott | March 25, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Hillary Clinton tried to denegrate Barack Obama by saying that she would not have stayed in Rev.Wrights church. There is a picture of Rev Wright shaking Bill Clinton’s hand that proves that he participated in a Prayer Service that took place at the White House about the time of Bill Clinton’s impeachment. Evidentley Rev. Wright prayed for forgivness of President Clinton’s sins and that the president would be allowed to continue in office.
Posted by: eileen | March 25, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
encouraging self-motivation…..like teaching someone how to self-teach themselves….
Posted by: chris | March 25, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
If she can knee cap him, she should.
The Republicans will if she doesn’t.
By the sounds of this comment there’s a lot more in Obama’s closet than Rev Wright.
Posted by: s.b. | March 25, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
For all you Hillary supporters, suck on this! Hillary is/was on the armed services committee that presented the Iraq intel and recommendations to Bush and his advisors.
Posted by: jeremy | March 25, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
good day all….may you do what’s best for our children, our troops and America and support Senator Clinton for President
Posted by: chris | March 25, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
The moral story here is that it’s possible for her to win. I take an ugly win any time over any pretty loss.
Posted by: esvida | March 25, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
It implies that Clinton is so set on ensuring that Obama doesn’t get the nomination, not only is she willing to take extra-ruthless steps, but in the end neither she nor Obama win the gold
Posted by: lauenpow | March 25, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Take it to the floor Hill!
They seat MI and FL or they lose the white house and much of the congress and senate.
Posted by: s.b. | March 25, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
1)True blue dems, people who have given their LIVES and TONS OF MONEY supporting the Democratic Party (i.e., older people in their 40′s 50′s 60′s 70′) who are now being demonized and called “racist” because they support Hillary Clinton, are the ones we should all be most concerned about…they have worked hard
2)The “newbies” “youth vote” will dissipate the moment the General Election is over; they are the ones who are not politically savvy, are able to read through the spin, and have never donated one dollar to ANY political party
Which one would you be most willing to take a bet on?
The “youth” (aka FICKLE) vote.
FYI ABC:
The campaigns are 50/50 in every category; neither OBAMA OR HILLARY will have enough delegates…
The question remains:
Who is most electable in November?
SOrry, but Obama has 20 years being wrong on wright.
Who do YOU think will win?
Not Obama.
Posted by: Josh | March 25, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Photos of Hillary next to Tonya Harding? It only motivates me to fight this ugliness with larger donations & more activism. Hillary Clinton in 2008.
Posted by: Paul Cintari | March 25, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Good for you Hillary! Any Presidential candidate should attack the other Presidential candidate if they attended Mr. Wright’s racist Church for 20 years and did not have the Courage to stand up and leave. There is no way this democrat is going to vote for Obama in the fall – Not surprising Obama does what he has a history of doing when things get tough – not show up to vote – vote present or go on vacation. The Far left of the party, the college kids and his base (the media) will get him a 44% of the electorate in November. This democrat will help McCain get his 53% !
Posted by: John in Cape May | March 25, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Hilary Go HOME.
It’s ok, we love you more than you love us. Go home and let us vent your greed, selfishness and lies.
HILARY GO HOME.
HILARY GO HOME.
Posted by: Conrad | March 25, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Clinton thinks she owns the White House and who dare put her out!!! Well, if Obaman looses it, I woulld rather have another republican for another “100 years” in the White House.
Posted by: robblork | March 25, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
If Sen Obama gets the nomination without Florida, count FL as a Republican state.
You can bet on that.
Posted by: politicsIsdirty | March 25, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
If Sen Obama gets the nomination without Florida, count FL as a Republican state.
You can bet on that.
Posted by: politicsIsdirty | March 25, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Millions of voters PREFER Hillary Clinton. The media WANTS Obama. Some of the newsites act as if NOBODY supports Hillary. Talk about disrespecting the people. Don’t voters in Ohio & Texas count? And, enough with the links to stripper girl Obama videos. What happened to JOURNALISM?
Posted by: M. Saint | March 25, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
i would love to see hilary have to answer to the crimes and lies she does, lets see who needs a pillow then!
Posted by: melissa | March 25, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
It’s so cute when people try to convince themselves that McCain has any chance against either one of these two.
Posted by: jock59801 | March 25, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Why can’t the DNC let everyone vote and then see what happens? Neither candidate can win on delegates alone, correct? So why is it so important to make HRC drop out? Obama is not ahead by so much that he shoudl just be handed the nomination. There seems to be some buyers’ remorse out there now, and the process should play itself out.
If I lived in one of the states/regions that hadn’t voted yet, I’d be mighty peeved at the DNC for wanting to negate my voice.
Posted by: Beth | March 25, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
Interesting story about Rush Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos running into trouble in Ohio, it’s illegal in Ohio to switch parties to vote when you have no intention to support the party. I doubt they’ll take time to prosecute but it’s interesting, Rush got 16,000 Republicans to vote for Hillary. Rush is furious, lol.
People should think long and hard about how Hillary would fare in the general election. The downside of claiming so much experience in the Whitehouse is that it is so much already known.
Posted by: vmcgreen | March 25, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
This is a sad women. Im sorry she will do and say anything to get elected. Sad!! I do belive what the democrats are saying. She will do so much harm to the party as she is said that if she does not get it this time She will run again. Its sad that she is playing these type of games and tactics..I am a Hillary supporter but I must admit Im having some real doughts. I think that her Boasnia lie is a real concern. She acts like she can say anything and no one will care. I also think that we democrats should not lie to ourselves and know that her Bosnia story is a mojor couse of concern we all should be honest and face reality. She is acting like a bitter wome. She is consistanly is starting to show a pattern of lying to the American people. We democrats ar going to work hard put our pride aside and really start saying enogh is enogh.
Posted by: Amy | March 25, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
i think its funny you say that seems how he has had to answer to everything anyone has on him and hilary is laughing because no one has asked her once about how David Rosen is doing now! everyone who crossed her knows how she loves power and could care less about anything else!
Posted by: melissa | March 25, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Obama can’t win in November. He can only get the nomination if FL and MI are denied their delegates, then they will be republican states in the election. If the delegates from FL and MI are counted, Hillary will win the nomination and the election. Obama, with his uncle, mentor and “GD America” minister ruined his career. Let the truth be told !!!
Posted by: Abe | March 25, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
To all acting as if some odd system of caucuses has been installed to steal something from Hillary:
This system has been in place for many many years. It’s a system that Bill managed to survive just fine. They knew the rules. They just got out-smarted.
If she can’t figure out how to win by the rules her campaign knew going in, I’d say her odds of winning the electoral college are slim to none.
More importantly than that, even if she wins, she would never be able to govern successfully because a good 55% of the nation now hates her. I used to say this wasn’t her fault… that she was a victim of the slurs of the Right. Well, now it IS her fault. She hired Penn, etc. This shows very bad judgement IMO.
BUT whether it’s her fault or not, nothing can change the fact that so many Republicans (and now Democrats too) can’t stand her. How would she ever be able to govern?
Every single Senate and Congressional race in the country will turn into a race against Hillary. They’ll use her the way the Democrats ran against Newt.
Bye Bye Congress.
Posted by: splunge | March 25, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
A comparison of Tonya Harding to Ms. Clinton? Are you sure you weren’t talking off the record to the Obama camp? Fight for the nomination baby! You deserve it!
Posted by: Carlos | March 25, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Super delegates if you are listening to the news. Take control you can do it . Pledge yourself to Obama. He will unite this country and bring a fresh new perspective to this country. Remember the world is watching. World leaders will not be able to trust Hillary. Get rid of her now. Do Not let her take the party down.
Posted by: Lauren | March 25, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Few millions voter are still yet to vote as this date. Why is there a push to end the nomination so prematurely? I am one of those millions. Let me exercise my right. I also like to have my vote truly relevant. Do not count us out. Let the process play out.
Posted by: j bond | March 25, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
There’s a huge difference between a fighter and a commonplace schoolyard bully.
As well, I often say the supporters can and will reflect their candidate.
Posted by: tenchan | March 25, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Markiebee, You poor thing. Unless the Times decides to remove the article that appeared in 1990 (unlike TEAMOBAMA I don’t have access to opposition data – I’m just an average middle class mom so furious with the assault on Clinton’s experience and ethics that I’ve felt compelled to dig deeper.)it’s there for all to see. What I find revealing is that most young people – although he WAS 28 years old at the time- would take pride in overcoming whatever deficits they had started with – or at least remaining silent on our true so called heritage (recognizing that pedigree doesn’t define us). He didn’t. Instead, without the benefit of a David Axelrod, he chose to lie – to inflate his pedigree. I think most people hear “Finance Minister” and they believe that that person holds the highest office in the land – related to Finance issues that is. When they hear that a woman in the 1960′s and 70′s is employed as an anthropologist, they want to know where’s her research? People: he lied about this and I’d outline other lies but I want people to have a chance to absorb this.
Posted by: s. valenti | March 25, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
I say to all of you non loyal democrats, go ahead and vote McCain. Maybe he will send your sons and daughters over here to help me fight this God forsaken war. To say you will turn your back on the democratic nominee is like slapping me in the face. You might as well say, “hey soldier, you know I really don’t agree with you being over there, but I’d rather you lose your life than see that black man in office.” I am a Democrat and whichever name ends up on that ticket in November is the one that gets my vote. I AM READY TO COME HOME!!!
Posted by: Soldier | March 25, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
That’s why the superdelegates need to follow Richardson and back Obama now. HRC needs to be stopped before she does anymore harm.
Posted by: wlw100 | March 25, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
This is the best election ever.
In order of preference for me..
Obama, McCain, Clinton. Three very gifted leaders. America cannot go wrong.
Let’s stop bickering and get ready to support any of these leaders if they win. We have a lot of work ahead and not one SINGLE leader can do it all.
Posted by: dean | March 25, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
can she run the country from a cell?
Posted by: melissa | March 25, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
This is the best election ever.
In order of preference for me..
Obama, McCain, Clinton. Three very gifted leaders. America cannot go wrong.
Let’s stop bickering and get ready to support any of these leaders if they win. We have a lot of work ahead and not one SINGLE leader can do it all.
Posted by: dean | March 25, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
I like this TJ – pefect:
YOU GUYS SICKEN ME. BACKSTABBING FOOLS.
WHAT MAKES DEMOCRATS THINK THEY COULD WIN WITH THE SCREWED UP SYSTEM THEY HAD IN PLACE. HAD THEY USED A SYSTEM SIMILAR TO REPUBLICANS , IT WOULD BE OVER ON SUPER TUESDAY AND hILLARY WOULD HAVE WON. WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A GROUP OF MEN WHO CANT STAND HILLARY’S SUCCESS GANGING UP, TWISTING AND TURNING THE STANDARDS TO FIT OBAMA WHO SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOTTEN THIS FAR IF THE SYSTEM WERE FAIR. NOW, WE GOT FL AND MI DISCOUNTED AND ALL THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FAIR TO HILLARY?
IF ANYHTING HAPPENS TO YOUR GOLDEN BOY OBAMA , HILLARY DID NOT DO IT. HE IS SIMPLY NOT QUALIFIED AND mCcAIN WOULD KILL HIM. THE SCORE IS 1500 DELEGATES TO ABOUT 1400, SO WHY ASK HILLARY TO DROP OUT. SHE IS NOT THAT FAR BEHIND. THE PRIMARIES ARE NOT OVER.
BUNCH OF TED KENNEDY LOOK-ALIKES!!!
BACKSTABBERS. THE CLINTONS SUPPORTED ALL OF YOU. BILL CLINTON IS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PRESIDENT IN DECADES.
GO TALK TO DEAN AND TED KENNEDY AND ALL THE MEN WHO ARE EITHER JEALOUS OF A WOMAN OR JEALOUS OF BILL CLINTON—–BILL CLINTON IS WHAT THEY CANT BE . . ..YOU WANNA WIN, REDO FLORIDA AND mICHIGAN- THE SITUATION HAS CHANGED. COUNT THE VOTES!!!
Posted by: dlaxmi | March 25, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
I think the Rep leadership of FL set up the Dems and the Dems walked right into it. I believe most men do not want Hillary for president; most men would vote for ANY other male on the ticket, not even knowing what that male represented. I can not vote Rep due to the condition of the planet. If Obama is the Dem candidate, then I will write-in Hillary. Bill did a great job as pres. and I believe two heads are always better than one; and both are intelligent!
Posted by: jg | March 25, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
This is an EXCELLENT sign. The attacks against Hillary, Bill and Chelsea are starting to come from all angles. This means she must be SOARING in the polls. I predict Hillary is at least 10 points higher than Obama in Pennsylvania. Hillary Clinton in 2008! NURSES & TEACHERS PROUDLY FOR HILLARY!
Posted by: M. Saint | March 25, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
obama is white too! how can you be a racist against yourself? anyway your right hilary isnt a racist or a sexist – she takes no prefrence in her victims, with her we are sure to all lose!!! go HILARY!
Posted by: melissa | March 25, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
This site is scary. I am sorry I stumbled upon it by mistake. What planet are most of these people from? I am not concerned about who you would like to vote for but your language, tone, ideas, and ignorance is total bewilderment to me. Before you suggest and imply such hatred, just do your research and get your facts straight because some of you are twisted in thought and behavior. Pull up the legislature, articles, history, and you will then be able to make sound and factual judgements. But until then, stop sounding so ignorant and maybe don’t say anything at all until you have done your homework.
Posted by: Rita Crawford | March 25, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
I think this is dead on-point – She doesn’t care about anyone but herself – taking Obama down is a no-brainer for these self-obsessed liars. McCain will be the next President if this continues but we won’t forget what Clinton has done to Obama – she’s finished either way.
Posted by: mike k | March 25, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Obama and his Dean buddies at the DNC are desperate to get rid of Clinton before millions of voters in Penn have their say. They know Obama is going to lose in a landslide, and from that point, how do they keep pushing their candidate? Clinton should push this Wright issue every day until Obama is forced to leave his church or continue to defend it. I guarantee if the shoe was on the other foot, that’s exactly what Obama would be doing.
Posted by: free to speak | March 25, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Dems and liberals…step back from your internal bickering and whining and observe. YOUR PARTY IS IMPLODING. You are playing the tune every Repub. wants, and you don’t even realize it. This whole campaign season has shown me why I am so glad I am not a liberal or demo. You can’t even get out of your own way!!!
I consider myself conservative in nature, but don’t label myself as a Republican…I’m more of an American. If you ask me, politicians/canidates no longer serve us…it’s all about themselves. They are all full of it…When will you so-called Americans stand up and take this country back?? It’s time for a political revolution!
Posted by: Jeff from Georgia | March 25, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
What about the “Disenfranchise voters in FL and MI” Option? Obama has been playing that card really well!
Posted by: Eric | March 25, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
That lie she told about that little trip to Bosnia is a symptomatic of her pathological need to exaggerate her experience factor. Clinton’s one claim to fame regarding health care essentially ended that discussion for well over a decade. She got it wrong about Iraq, which speaks to a lack of judgement. The rest is nostalgia for her husband’s legacy and her familiarity because she grabs every photo op along the way. She refuses to release her tax returns which shows a lack of transparency. So if Ferraro can say the Obama got where he is because he’s black, then Hillary got where she is because of her husband. She should bow out gracefully before it gets too ugly.
Posted by: wd | March 25, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
It will take a fighter to get this country back in shape. I am voting for a fighter….Hillary not a whiner….. Obama.
Whoever compared Hillary to Tonya Harding is also a looser.
Go Hillary..you can get there girl.
Posted by: mrst | March 25, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
dlaxmi…you go! Very well said…in all caps too. You must be pissed off about all of this…I totally understand.
It is not about being a sore loser. This is not about winning. So many people bash Hillary, blame her for what is going on in the Democratic Party. She has every right to stay in.
I am not sure what it is with Obama’s supporters…something in the water…maybe the rose-colored glasses that they are wearing…But they can get nasty and negative. I do think that there are a lot of Republicans that have nothing better to do with their time other than to throw jabs at the Clinton’s.
Why people focus so much on the negatives is beyond me. Why the media…Fox doesn’t count…choose to cast Hillary in such an unfavorable light and give Obama every benefit of the doubt is also beyond me.
Since the media is so biased, research Hillary and Obama yourselves before making such negative statements people! Do not focus on the trivial…like how someone said something different one day than they did another. All politicians do that. Wake up!
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | March 25, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
I’m a woman but I have to say this…Hillary is JUST LIKE A WOMAN, not knowing when to let go.
Posted by: Leslie | March 25, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
I wonder how many times Obama gave a big “Amen” to Rev. Wright and his racist, hatefilled anti-American speeches?
Posted by: Akitisha | March 25, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Wright was not found by Clintons.
Hillary’s sin is staying in the race – prolong TIME to reveal Obama’s candidacy.
And this also led Obama’s camp to go low road: Photo of Wright with Clinton; McCarthyism, monica lewinsky, all happened in just last 3 days :)
“Tonya Harding Option”? The official would be part of the cause of Obama loss in GE.
Posted by: YD | March 25, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
The problem is not Hillary, she is merely playing the system. Nothing new there, that is what she has always done throughout her career – she Plays the System. It is the system that is at fault here. The Democratic Party didn’t have enough foresight to see the present scenario – which is to say, a tight race!
The system they are currently working with only works when there is a clear frontrunner by this time of year. The Republicans lucked-in and Senator John McCain took a commanding lead and their contest was wrapped up early.
WHAT TO DO? The Democrats have got themselves in a bind and are at serious risk of losing the next election. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are being led to the slaughterhouse by their own people. If this drag’em out, shoot’em up contest continues too much longer the whole exercise will have been in vein. McCain will win by default – no contest to speak of. A blow-out in November.
HERE IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE – AND SOON: Listen, if Bill Richardson can make a decision on whom to support why can’t John Edwards do the same? As a matter of interest, why can’t ALL the Superdelegates come forward within the next few weeks and cast their vote of confidence? All it takes is 10 words! “I support Barack Obama (or Clinton) for President of these United States of America.” A few of them might want to elaborate and state their reason. Or perhaps just another sentence, “And I hereby give my vote of confidence to the next President of The United States.” NOTHING SHORT OF THIS WILL DO. It is time for all Superdelegates to stand up on their own two feet and DECLARE! There is no reason to wait.
NOTE: Should some of the Superdelegates choose not to participate and vote NOW, if some choose to delay the process further thereby causing the Democratic Party to further tear itself apart, they shall from this day forward be known as the Lily-livered Lot!
This message is brought to you by the Violent Femmes – so KISS-OFF into the air! Will ya’?
Good Night and thank you for listening.
Tommy D_____
Professor of Smozology
Posted by: Tommy D____ | March 25, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
I’m a woman but I have to say this…Hillary is JUST LIKE A WOMAN, not knowing when to let go.
Posted by: Leslie | March 25, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
This is hillarious…all you dems/liberals ten year ago couldn’t get enough of the Clintons…now you can’t bash them enough…which is it???? I think we have a term for this: flip floppers.
Posted by: Jeff from Georgia | March 25, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
HRC seems to have decided she would rather destroy Obamas chances this fall than see him elected in lieu of her, therby ensuring she gets another chance in 2012. She would sacrifice the country for her own personal ambition.
Posted by: AndyK | March 25, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
These recent days we had another confirmation that Hillary Clinton (just like her husband Bill Clinton) is a big lier. She won’t get away with that spin this time. She has built her campaign around embellishing her empty political resume with “35 years of experience”.
Obama will win this nomination. It is too late for Clinton to undo it.
She is a bad looser. She is too selfish and has a big ego. She is thinking : “how can a CLINTON loose against a Black ?”.
She needs to come back to earth. After this embarrassing defeat, she will means. Her political career will be over, because people will remember the damage that she and her entourage wanted
Posted by: Docta | March 25, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
The Democratic party. The only party that can stop this war and stop this Country from collapsing is in the middle of a big fight, and the way they think to win over Barack Obama is to destroy him by any means necessary instead of focusing on the issues. The price will be heavy on both sides. Play this fair and square and let the people decide.
Posted by: SB1874 | March 25, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
LOL Bigtime…
Same ol’ same ol’…typical Hillary basher..no shame. Oh wait…most of what you said was about Bill. Make up your mind…focus on one person to bash at a time.
You have no cooth..
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | March 25, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
It seems to me that Hillary Clinton could do a lot more for her country, herself and her place in history when if she is faced with the prospect of losing the democratic election, she just bows out and supports Mr. Obama.
This desire to win, something that we too often think of as being our right or the most important thing to pursue and acheive in life seems to be causing a lot of problmes for all of those who make it a mental and behavioral habit in their life.
Our self – worth and self – esteem should not be built on winning but on being wise and doing the right thing for all……..
Posted by: John C. Kimbrough | March 25, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Couth…sorry…its the teacher in me…have to get that right :-)
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | March 25, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
It is deeply offensive to put Hillary Clinton’s picture next to Tonya Harding and suggest they have similar strategies. Everything Hillary Clinton is doing to compete would be done by the GOP this fall. The info about Pastor Wright was out there since last year — do you really think that the GOP would not have picked up on it even though the media would not? If only Hillary would get out, the GOP of Willie Horton and Swiftboating etc. would play nice? Yeah right! The level of disgust I am hearing about Obama on the lack of judgment and dishonesty he showed in aligning himself with Wright suggests Obama should drop out because he is unelectable. Every time Obama could have clinched the electorate has said “not so fast”. So far they have said loud and clear that they want the race to go on.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | March 25, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
You bet she is going to try to break Obama; use any means necessary to secure super delegates; promise government contracts, appointments and privileges to those who help her; and sell out any US secrets to anyone who can help secure her prize.
If Obama was to pick her as a running mate and they win, he would need to look over his shoulder constantly to ensure he is not knocked out.
The Clintons are not to be trusted–PERIOD.
Posted by: scott jeffries | March 25, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Whomever called her a MONSTER? they got it right.
Posted by: scott jeffries | March 25, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Docta: I guess Hillary can’t count on your support!
Posted by: russell | March 25, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Omg…it makes me laugh when Hillary bashers talk about her lack of experience and then profess their undying love for Obama. Where is his experience? Come on…talk about a baseless comment…
Hillary has done a lot of good for the poor, migrant workers, children, in the area of healthcare and education. Quit focusing on the trivial. How does Obama’s resume compare???
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | March 25, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
This is what the Clintons do best they destroys Americans hopes and dreams. Except this time I agree with them. No its a sign of the apocalypse. I don’t like either but she is looking more and more better.
Posted by: Christopher | March 25, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
All these obamites saying every day how this and that just makes them contribute to their candidate again. Good for you, go for it I say, especially since most of it comes from your parents’ credit cards. Here’s the scoop: It doesn’t matter if he outspends her ten to one, he still won’t win Penn, or the majority of the remaining states. If he gets the nod from party heads, it will be against the wishes of the majority of democrats. And he will lose badly in November.
Posted by: free to speak | March 25, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
The problem with Obama is that most moderate democrats will not and do not agree with the stances he took in the Illinois State Senate. While the left of the democratic party agrees – The Republicans will point out the fact that 1) He voted against giving medical attention to a Fetus/child that survives late term abortion (the US Senate voted 98-0 in favor of medical attention), 2) he voted to raise taxes at least 199 times 3)He voted against the three strike rule against criminals 4) Most moderate democrats look at Iran as a terrorist state. Many, many, moderate democrats will vote for McCain when these facts become known, these are their beliefs. On top of Obama’s other controversial issues, these alone will dome Obama!
Posted by: John in Cape May | March 25, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
IF THEY CAN’T GET BEHIND THIER LEADING CANDIDATE,THE DEMOCRATS ARE SHOWING THAT THEY DO NOT DESERVE TO BE IN POWER
Posted by: wale alao | March 25, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Hillary reminds me of Richard Nixon: intelligent, dogged, humorless, selfish and obtuse. I assume those who describe Obama as an affirmative action candidate exceed him in education, eloquence and charm. I should be for Hillary, as a feminist in her age group, but I cannot countenance her approach to governance and campaigning.
Posted by: Ger | March 25, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
I say “Right On Hillary”. The future of this country is worth fighting for right down to the final out. Gore should have kept fighting against Bush after the stolen election of 2000. People said it was bad for the country to have so much uncertainty – but were the 8 years of Bush rule better?!
Posted by: hopesprings52 | March 25, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Hey quit complaining about your party leaders going against your wishes if they vote for Clinton or (gasp!) Obama. You voted them your party leaders – put as much thought into your local elections as you do to the glamorous presidency and you may have a government that better represents you.
Posted by: Urgh | March 25, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Might I suggest a PAINTBALL MATCH to the death? The survivor gets the nomination. Seriously, it couldn’t be any nuttier than a Tonya Harding headline on a major news agency.
Posted by: Carlos | March 25, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
Obama is clearly head and shoulders above Clinton and McCain when it comes to potential to be a great President.
Hillary knows this so her goal is to destroy him. At least McCain will have some class.
The superdelegates, especially Al Gore, need to show some courgae like Richardson and endorse Obama now.
Posted by: Doug M | March 25, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
If he gets the nod from party heads, it will be against the wishes of the majority of democrats……………………………………
free to speak, what are you talking about. Omaba is winning the popular vote so your sentance doesn’t make sense. Please be informed before posting.
Posted by: moe | March 25, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Obama had this primary all but won, the Democrats were not satisfied that his candidacy was tested enough. Ohio and Texas were the big pause. He was up 10% nationally and now they are basically tied. As we know more, he has lost the immanency because Rev Wright is just too hard to swallow for most Americans. If it didn’t matter, we wouldn’t be talking about it. All that built in advantage that Barack had is now gone. Both Barack and Hillary are damaged goods but their is no justification for either of them to leave the race. This is politics. This isn’t for the presidency of the PTA. This is for the leader of the free world. These candidates need to be tested. John McCain is not a great candidate but he can win this election. Millions still need to vote. Let them have their say just like you had yours. Wishing this happened or that happened is just that, wishing. Let’s not fool ourselves. They both want to win and that is a huge understatement. They are both shrewd politicians and they both get caught in lies. Deal with it. There are no angels in this race. This is a twelve round heavyweight brawl. No ones gonna win with a tko. I think Bill Richardson’s endorsement really divided this party more than anything else. He should have waited because now, it went from a political fight to a personal one. This is going to be a presidential race where nuclear options are on the table. You can thank the DNC for setting the tone with Michigan and Florida.
Posted by: Charles | March 25, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
As an Immigrant who loved and cherished every single moment of what this country has to offer, and as someoneconsiders and calls this country home, I am very ashamed and disheartened by all the negative and ill-conceived opinions. Do you know the fact our brothers and sisters are dying fighting wars that our politicians crafted and fabricated. Do you know as many as 100 immigrants got their US citizenship after they died fighting for this country? What is wrong with you all? Try to see outside the box, what ever you do and say in this country directly and indirectly affects the world.
Let us try to civilize ourselves as what it should be in the 21st century.
Posted by: titim | March 25, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Obama has lied so much he believes his own lies. He attended a church for 20 years and didn’t know the pastor was a racist and a hater of the white people? Give me a break. Obama doesn’t like the white people that much he tolerates them to get the votes and they are sucker enough to vote for him. He gives a good copied pep talk and they believe him. What is the matter with the white people today. The black people vote for Obama not Hillary and the white people should vote for their own. I believe she will win in Pennsylvania, possibly North Carolina and Puerto Rico. If so, her total delegates will go up and she is winning the superdelegates. Anyone that goes to a racial church has to be racial themselves.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 25, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Obama has proven by his action he is a hypocrite. he preaches unity, no politics of old, bringing all races together, but attends a racist church that preaches hate of our country and spreads vicious lies. I will never again, vote for this disgusting person.
Posted by: Malcom | March 25, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
I wonder which woman will win?
Posted by: Bruce | March 25, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
Obama is a fake and they know it. Obama is a media created person by Oprah and the Kennedy’s looking to recultivate Camelot. They know this knucklehead can’t unify anything.
This is a sexist attempt to discredit a worthy candidate in Clinton by putting a phony here and not disclosing or vetting Obama fully before the public caught on to it lies.
The Democrats pick people they like, not those who can win in November against the Republicans. Kerry, Dukakis, Mondale, and Gore (who picked his Jewish comrade Liberman knowing full well the Heartland would not stand for that) all lost because they don’t understand how to win the ELECTORAL COLLEGE.
When Obama announced his presidency, I knew this was going to be a civil war and McCain would win because Obama is a Republican Operative set to divide and conquer the Democrat party. He should have sat his black butt down and be thankful he was in the Senate with that Rev. Wright militant, extremist pastor.
Where is Oprah, Senator Kennedy and Senator Kerry? They created this mess for the Democrat party.
Posted by: Knowledgeforreal | March 25, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
As an Immigrant who loved and cherished every single moment of what this country has to offer, as someone who considers and calls this country home, I am very ashamed and disheartened by all the negative and ill-conceived opinions. Do you know the fact our brothers and sisters are dying fighting wars that our politicians crafted and fabricated. Do you know as many as 100 immigrants got their US citizenship after they died fighting for this country? What is wrong with you all? Try to see outside the box, what ever you do and say in this country directly and indirectly affects the world.
Let us try to civilize ourselves as what it should be in the 21st century.
Posted by: titim | March 25, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
I am all for being a fighter and going for what you want in this world. And I don’t begrudge Senator Clinton for wanting that seat in the Oval Office.
However, it doesn’t take a person with a military background to know that a general who is willing to lose the entire war in order to win a battle is a poor strategist.
The fight is over. Bow out gracefully and make sure your ideas are heard in the Senate.
Posted by: Ann | March 25, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
At some point in the hopefully not-too-distant future, some important Democratic figure needs to step up and create a McCarthy-like moment, which shows both Clinton and, to an extent, Obama how foolish they’re being and how disgusting that this campaign has become. Honestly, the Democrats had the inside track to the presidency this time around because of all of the displeasure with Bush. But most Americans are at this point, it’s safe to say, sick of Clinton and Obama. I am so sick of the back and forth stupid BS that McCain looks way more palatable right now than either of the two nitwits.
Clinton / Obama, for the sake of the U.S., get back to the tweakin’ issues. Tell us where you stand on the real issues. Quit nitpicking about stuff that doesn’t matter. Get back to the issues or get out and let some Democrat take over who actually wants to discuss the real issues.
Clinton, stop embellishing your largely ceremonial role as First Lady. You didn’t negotiate anything! You’ve been a Senator for two terms now. Talk about that experience and what you’re going to bring to the table. Quit telling me how bad Obama is. It just makes you look stupid.
Obama, quit with all the fancy talk and empty words. Discuss real frickin’ plans.
Both of you, discuss real stuff or get out!
Posted by: J. T. Bigglesworth | March 25, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
Hillary has already stooped to her all time low
She’s lied repeatedly about her “experience”
Most recently her trip to Bosnia
She’s lied about her position on NAFTA
Hasn’t apologized for voting for the Iraqi War.
The polls are noticing and so is America
Obama- North Carolina leads by 21 point
Regained lead in National Poll
And gaining ground in Penn, Once down by 26… he’s now down by 10
Posted by: Vanessa | March 25, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
I’ve just got to add this. Anderson Cooper -weighing in on Clinton’s comments about Obama’s problem with Rev. Wright – has to add that in her later remarks she was referring to notes. How about Obama’s use of the teleprompter during his so-called landmark speech on race. Anderson, your bias is showing!!!
She was asked in a press conference about this – probably the 100th time – maybe she got tired of giving a stupid, non-responsive answer, and finally told people the equivalent of the EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES! (“he wouldn’t be my pastor”).
Finally, AC360 has two Obama apologists vs. one Clinton supporter. So much for fairness. Goodnight Anderson and CNN. You’ve crossed the line too many times. I hope other Clinton supporters join me.
Posted by: s. valenti | March 25, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Bigglesworth – Thank you! Sheesh!
Posted by: Bruce | March 25, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
The Democrats pick people they like, not those who can win in November against the Republicans. Kerry, Dukakis, Mondale, and Gore
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VERY true. It would be absolutely crazy to nominate Obama. It’s going to be a McCain landslide. The moveon.org morons will be wringing their hands when President McCain vetoes yet another troop withdrawal plan.
Posted by: dem | March 25, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Hillary IS a fighter. You bet! I’d rather have her in the Oval office when Mahmoud Ahadinejad, Dmitry Medvedev & Hugo Chavez start pulling punches. She’s not going to let them walk all over America. Sometimes you can’t find harmony. She’s the one! ABSOLUTELY!
Posted by: M. Saint | March 25, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
While it does seem that Obama may win this in the end, the Democratic leadership looks deperate to get Clinton to drop out before the Pennsylvania primary. That is because there is a good chance he will lose that primary by 10% to 20%. That will be some heavy duty baggage to carry into the general election. But they must be fair to the voters whose primaries have not taken place yet. They already look bad refusing the votes of Fl and MI. If they push her out prematurely without allowing voters to have their say they will alienate even more voters.
Posted by: sitting1 | March 25, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
Would you take your children to hear rev. wright in church? Obama has allowed his children in this church since they were born. I feel sorry for Obama’s children.
Posted by: juan | March 25, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
All those CLINTON FANS are closet racist white trash Americans, who would rather be Republican voters but can’t afford to as Republicans only care for the Rich & wealthy.
Enough with your “Ferraro” type prejudice and start getting use to the Mathematical FACT that OBAMA WILL BE THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE !!
Posted by: Jay McMahon | March 25, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
I cannot belive i am reading comments where someone refered to Nixon as Intelligent. ” Hillary 08″
Posted by: Beau | March 25, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
The media and the DNC are turning on Hillary. The end is near.
Posted by: Bob, DC | March 25, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Obama has the audacious arrogance to hope that his political ambitions are more important, are more legitimate, are more vital to this great nation than the will of the 2.5 MILLION voters in Michigan and Florida.
This goes WAY BEYOND a character flaw, it says something profoundly disturbing about his moral compass. This arrogance should inspire a wave of voter outrage so powerful that it crashes down upon him, destroying the ambition of one who would put self-serving strategy above this essential principle of democracy.
Posted by: smyles | March 25, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
I wonder what Machiavellian concept would be in this matter would be…
Posted by: George Dolan | March 25, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Hilllary’s Bosnia sniper lying scandal is taking on the significance of Al Gores “invented the Internet” except that Gore’s “fib” was totally exaggerated and unfair. In Hillary’s case she flat out lied lied and there is video evidence. We may look back at this as the turning point in this campaign. I get the feeling the “vultures are circling” over Ms Clinton.
Posted by: Bob, DC | March 25, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
i can’t understand why so many people believe O? for his change? but do u think he really would bring any changes except the word CHANGE?? to me, he is just another OLD politician. wear marks, play tricks and hope to take a bet to be president. i cant see how much he loves this country and how much he did for this country!
Posted by: Jill CN | March 25, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Jay McMahon: If thats the case you might as well start calling John McCain Mr. President!
Posted by: russell | March 25, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
The media is all over this Bosnia sniper liar thing plus the comment from the unnamed DNC official that Hillary is employing a “Tonya Hardiing” strategy now to “kneecap” Obama. Yikes! Things really seem to be coming to a head. Something is going to have to give. Meanwhile Barack is chilling at the beach. Nice!
Posted by: Bob, DC | March 25, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
I got nothing against Barack.
He’s great.
I’m just gonna vote for Mrs. Clinton if she wins the nomination because I know the economy was good under the Clintons.
Barack thinks he’s the only one that can make things change.
Getting BUSH out is cause for a party. That’s some good change already. People will be celebrating in the streets. I know someone who’s got a clock that counts down the time that Bush has left.
Any other president has got to be better than BUSH. I hope it’s Mrs. Clinton. If not, I’ll vote for Barack. But, I want Clinton. I am a woman, but I voted for her in the Texas primary because she’s older, wiser, more experienced & I’ve seen what she’s done for the military. I could not stay for the caucus because it ran past 10pm and we have kids.
Posted by: Paula Sentrago | March 25, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Obama has the second most liberal voting record in the Senate for the one term that he has served. We all know that before his short stint in politics he was more than likely hosting block parties and spouting Rev. Wright’s afro-centrist hate speech at anyone that would listen. In my mind I would rather have anybody than this smooth operating psuedo-extremist running our great country.
God Bless America,
Ali
Posted by: Ali | March 25, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
I am concerned that Sen. Clinton may win the battle of the primary and, in doings so, lose the general election. For example, her tactic of comparing her “experience” to that of Sen. Obama begs the comparison of her experience to that of Sen. McCain. McCain, arguably, has the superior experience as he is a veteran, war hero, and has many more years in the Senate than Sen. Clinton. If this is the type of strategic/tactical thinking we should expect from Sen. Clinton, she doesn’t deserve the Presidency.
Posted by: G | March 25, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Hillary is a fighter, not a whiner like Obama. I am so tired of Obama calling the race card and crying about everything that makes him look bad. Hillary will win, she is proven and the republicans are worried.
Posted by: martha | March 25, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Smyles, again someone that doesn’t know what they are talking about. PLEASE do your homework before posting. Obama is not the problem with this issue. It is the fault of the DNC. This is not an easy issue but to blame it on Obama is ignorant. How do some of you vote when you don’t even know what you are talking about.
Posted by: maryland | March 25, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Right now Hillary is kind of like a cancer on the Democratic party that needs to be cut off before any further damage ensues.
Posted by: Bill | March 25, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
Oh, and M. Saint – I think you mean “throwing punches”. Pulling punches is when you don’t throw punches. See, English is not even my first language and I am better than you at it.
Why do all Hillary Clinton supporters sound so, ummm, ignorant? Oh wait – that IS her strongest demographic!
Go, get an education.
Posted by: Sunil | March 25, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
The way in which Hillary Clinton told her story of the arrival in Bosnia reminded me of pathological liars I have known. I doubt that she is, but don’t be completely surprised if other statements she has made turn out to be mendacious. Let the digging begin.
Posted by: Robert Brown | March 25, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Hillary has already stooped to her all time low
She’s lied repeatedly about her “experience”
Most recently her trip to Bosnia
She’s lied about her position on NAFTA
Hasn’t apologized for voting for the Iraqi War.
The polls are noticing and so is America
Obama- North Carolina leads by 21 point
Regained lead in National Poll
And gaining ground in Penn, Once down by 26… he’s now down by 10
Posted by: Vanessa | March 25, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Obama does not lie like Hillary.
Posted by: Bob, DC | March 25, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
I think this is another petty attack on Hillary. For Pete’s sake, this woman low-crawled across a tarmac halfway around the world in a hail of sniper fire, while dragging an 8 year old girl behind her and signing autographs with her other hand! Why would someone like that even NEED to stoop to – gasp – dishonesty?!
Posted by: dmishem | March 25, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Obama has already done enough to himself. My turning against him had nothing to do with anything Hillary has said, it’s watching him lie, distort, and flip flop. It’s also because of his allegiance to his anti-white, anti-American church for 20 years. I don’t believe a word the man says.
Posted by: Torch | March 25, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Clinton would make a good dictator for Banana republic.. Her billy boy can have more intern affairs there and her pimp daughter can make fools out of our senior citizens.
My god.. Is there any sanity left in DNC?
I boycott this poll if I see Clinton on DNC ticket
Posted by: Sri | March 25, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
It’s scary to think that the Clintonistas spewing so much bile on this board (FAR more than anything in the Obama camp, their insistent, smug, shameless and contemptuous claims to the contrary notwithstanding) are Democrats. Who needs Republicans when you’ve got ruthless, vicious troops like these? The irony is that so many of the comments I’ve read here prove that Tapper’s source is right about the Tonya Harding Option. At least own up to what you are doing, folks. Sheesh.
For all your trash talk, Obama is still standing, and is still the likely nominee. And he has more leadership ability in his little finger than HRC has in her entire corrupt body.
Posted by: 17thStRick | March 25, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Those who know about China’s Culture Revolution can think about Obama is like Chairman Mao. At the time when anything you said or write might be interpreted as remotely against him. And people paid for their lives or went to jail. Bill is the new Liu Shao-qi, a formal Chinese present who was labeled anti-Mao and lost his life. Anything Bill said, is anti-Obama. History comes again after 50 years. Sad, Sad.
Posted by: DonotAfraidToSayIt | March 25, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Man, judging from many of these post the Democrats were even bigger racists than I thought! Calling Senator Obama a mulatto, the hate towards Rev Wright just because of his skin color – jeeesh!
Posted by: Consultofactus | March 25, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Man, judging from many of these post the Democrats were even bigger racists than I thought! Calling Senator Obama a mulatto, the hate towards Rev Wright just because of his skin color – jeeesh!
Posted by: Consultofactus | March 25, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
I don’t think there is any way that America will pull the lever for Osama, sorry I mean Obama, on that fateful November day. McCain presents an almost grand-father image that comforts people, while Obama has never shown that he can lead this great country. He will not even put his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Alligence, and I would like to put him in a room of men that fought and gave their every effort for this country and see if he could talk his way out of that one.
Posted by: Ali | March 25, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
This stament is so true. As a doctor and a gret husband to my wife who is a respected Lawyer in PA. We both support Barack Obama. We are smart enogh not to vote for Hillary. I can clearly recall all her scandals. NOT GOOD. I reject the idea of having Bill runnig the show. I would not go as far in calling Hillary Tonya harding. Hillary is rich and Tonya is poor. So its true that the majority of pople who voted for Barack have a higher educational level and income in comparison to those who voted for Hillary. Im not black. Im as white as they come. Barack is brilliant. Has the rare gift of wisdom. I do respect Hillary and John McCain but Barack has a much higher IQ. I urge all to research this. Its a fact. The issue with Rev. Wright does not bother me at all. Im not going to hold Barack accountable for what he said. Lets be realistic we all know Barack does not agree with his ex-pastor. The church will remain. Pastors come and go. I hope poor people stop getting dupped!! Hillary is trying to win votes by lying to you all.
Posted by: MD. Richard O'brian | March 25, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
All this little nit-picking stuff is meaningless in the general.
56% of voters say they won’t vote for Obama in the general election?
40% of whites?
Sorry, but he can’t win.
The democratic primary is different from the general where the majority of voters are not favorable to Obama.
The probability of Obama withstanding attacks about his pastor, experience, in other words, risk are lower than Clintons – even with Bosnia, Taxes, Documents, etc.
Posted by: done_with_DNC | March 25, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
I’ve seen a lot of biased reporting and fawning by the media over Obama this election cycle but this story tops all. Hillary Clinton is Tonya Harding! She is clubbing the knees of our beloved star. Obama will save us all if only the evil Hillary will let him be. Hillary is behind Obama’s poor judgment and his dishonesty, she was even on his shoulder in the pews listening to Pastor Wright. This is the kind of piece one might expect to see in a college newspaper not as the lead story on ABC News.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | March 25, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Obama is way up in the NC polls. If Hillary wins Pennsylvania by 20 points, she will only gain 8 delegates! Big deal, this will be virtually offset by the great state of NC. Barack’s coming back from his vacation with his lovely wife and children, and he will be fired up and ready to go. Look for upcoming inspirational speeches on the economy and the war. Hillary looked dirt dog tired and beat up today. I felt sorry for her. but she needs to stop embellishing and exaggerating her credentials. There is a reason that the majority of Americans feel she is untrustworthy. It is practically impossible for her to win the nomination without pulling a Tonya Harding assault. Let us remember poor Vince Foster rolled up in a carpet. Democrats are afraid of the Clintons for a reason. Read Carl Bernstein’s book! This is why more superdelegates have not stuck their necks out yet to support Obama. They won’t be afraid to come out as a group against her, when it counts.
Posted by: rco | March 25, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Obama will be the next president of these United States of America. Hillary is holding out to force Obama to pick her as VP. I don’t think so! Bye bye Harding. See ya!
Posted by: anti-corporate-fascism | March 25, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
David Brooks points out in his Tuesday’s (3-25-08) column in The New York Times “Obama lawyers successfully prevented re-votes in Florida and Michigan.” This disfranchising millions of Democratic voters in those states, reminds me of The Supreme Court Handing over Florida vote to George Bush. Is this the new era of politics that Sen. Obama is talking about, or is it politics as usual, circa Florida 2000? More and more Obama campaign reminds me of those infamous Republican dirty tricks that brought us eight years of George Bush, 9/11, Iraq and Afghanitan wars and many other other disasters, and all of that of course with the help of Washington media establishment. The more Sen. Obama strains to speak of his new era of politics in America and CHANGE, less and less of it seemed real. Sen. Obama should practice what he preaches! Obviously, Sen. Obama is a liar and a hypocrite!
Posted by: charleschaplin | March 25, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Good for Hillary. We expect her to fingt to get the nomination. We expect her to be strong when she is our commander-in-chief. We expect her to win.
Now for that phoney democrat you mention, be honest, it never happened. Of course Democrats are brave, in fact the bravest and would certainly allow you to use his/her name come on now, tell the truth.
Posted by: Martha | March 25, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
Anger management, anyone? I’m with TKD: Hillary has torpedoed her Majority Leader options. Obama and those of us who support him may have underestimated the intelligence of the American public. Hillary is banking on the Tonya Harding double wide vote, and will likely get it. Sinbad/Charles Barkley is the real 08 ticket. Hillary supporters are off the charts with their condescending venom, and I am finding it difficult to remain the only one in America who will vote for the Democratic nominee. God Bless America. Go dem America
Posted by: Titanic | March 25, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
rco: Let me go on record to tell you there is no percentages on Pennsylvania and North Carolina as yet. It is too soon to tell and the news is there are no leaders in North Carolina. I do know that it was stated that Hillary is expected to win Pennsylvania. So, get your records straight before you make silly comments that don’t exist.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 25, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
Charleschaplin, you read one article and think you know what’s going on. Do you Hillary supporters have any brains and I don’t say that to be mean. But you cannot read 1 article and go with it. Educate yourself in politics, read everything and then make a judgement. I won’t explain myself again about the issue with fl and mi because you Hill supporters don’t want to listen. You just want to cry foul and point fingers
Posted by: maryland | March 25, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
I will take a time-out from my usual bickering with my fellow Democrats and throw this scenario out
there and see how many of you, if any, would agree with me!
This afternoon while watching Republican pundits bask in their glory of watching democrats tear each other apart, it dawned on me that this needs to stop! Now, here’s what I suggest we, as Democrats, agree to do and put an end to this back and forth bickering and self-destruction.
Hillary and Obama call for a press conference to be nationally televised. Both candidates voice their opinion as to why they have agreed to share the ticket together and how they will go about deciding who gets to lead it. They also express the need for both of them to come together despite their differences. Enough with the bickering, enough with the mud-slinging, enough with the lies on both sides. That which divides us isn’t greater than that which unites us, and for the sake of the party they both agree to have a toss-up. Yes, you heard me right, flip a coin! This way there won’t be any hard feelings on either side. If Obama wins the toss-up, Hillary supporters, including myself, agree to throw our weight behind him and Hillary. We would hope that if it’s the other way around, Obama’s supporters would agree to rally behind Hillary and Obama as well!
I know this sounds far-fetched, but it would show the country and the world that despite our differences, we are united by one common goal: to take our country back from disastrous Republican rule.
I will email this scenario to every major newspaper and news organization in the hopes that this idea gets picked up and hopefully comes to fruition!
Who’s with me?
Posted by: IT IS THE ONLY WAY | March 25, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Keep on bickering while Mccain is conquering territory after territory! Can we put aside all this bickering about the candidates and get down to the real issues that concern us true Americans? I know Clinton and Mccain are two good old politicians playing the same good old song. That is the only reason why I am going for Obama all the way to November 08!!
Posted by: robblork | March 25, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
i wish hillary get ousted out by the so call big wigs and the bias media ,quit the DNC and run has a indepedant i bet she would win the election hands down !!why? she would win the popular vote and the electoral votes and crush that phony obama …lets get real she is the strongest candidate in the general we know it and the dnc know it ..
Posted by: andre' | March 25, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
“She will have to “break his back,” the official said. She will have to destroy Obama, make Obama completely unacceptable.”
Obama was already unacceptable -
After the Pastor Wright Revelation, 56% of voters say they won’t vote for Obama, 40% of whites.
This artical is telling…it’s part of the set-up the media developing to try and blame Clinton for Obama’s shortcomings.
Obama hurt himself – he did over twenty years. Good Judgement?
Posted by: done_with_DNC | March 25, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Hillary “Mis-spoke” when re-calling the fact that she and daughter Chelsea did not duck bullets in Bosnia.Are we stupid enought to believe that the U.S. of America– would have allowed our First “lady?” AND DAUGHTER to be put in such danger ???How many of us have had our life in danger–and not remembered in detail –what happened?? Car wreck–flash flood–tornado?? This woman is a big liar !!!
Posted by: Carolyn | March 25, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
I have to place most of the blame of the on-going saga in the Democratic at the foot of the Super delegates. The fact of the matter is, the voters have spoken and although neither candidate can receive the required number of delegates to win the nomination. It’s full time for the super delegates to come out and throw their weight behind Obama who has the lead in elected delegates, popular votes and number of states won, thus preventing the destruction of the party. From all indications, both campaigns (Hilary/Obama) will continue the mud throwing to the extent that supporters of either side will not want to support the other at the appropriate time – November 08 and thereby provide McCain with a win. The damage to both candidates will be irreparable. The bottom-line is Obama has attracted so many first time voters and independent voters to the Democratic Party that will make him more electable than Hilary. Furthermore, the most of States won by Hilary are states that traditionally voted democratic. It does not take a Clinton to win them. The sooner the super delegates act the better position the Democratic Party will have in the November 08 elections.
Posted by: jaffob | March 25, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
Hillary has certainly demonstrated that she’s a candidate that will FIGHT for you. If she doesn’t make the nomination, perhaps she could do an Ice Capades type show in Vegas.
Posted by: barnyardrose | March 25, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Her true colors are now showing.
Posted by: honest | March 25, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Maryland — you are painfully naive to thing that the voting mess in FL and MI is the DNC’s fault. The DNC has given its approval for a revote. Obama is the only obstacle now. He is scared to death. He is scared to death of democracy. He thinks his political ambitions should trump the will of 2.5 MILLION voters in FL and MI. SIMPLY DESPICABLE AND UNAMERICAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: smyles | March 25, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Hey Marianne, you’re in need of an update. New major poll from NC as of 03-24 from http://www.publicpolicy polling (PPP) show Obama has surged in NC to a 55 to 34 lead (up by 21). Wake up Marianne, NC and the rest of America outside Pennsylvania does not like how Hillary is handling herself, and they don’t appreciate her constant Tonya Harding style attacks on Obama.
Posted by: rco | March 25, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
What will they do next? Bill & Hill once again bring out out the gutter politics they are sooooooo good at.The sad reality is , there are people who think she would be good for America. Have you not seen what Bill has done already? They have continued the campaign of division and racism.
SHAME ON YOU. THIS IS A SAD DAY FOR AMERICA WHEN HILLARY’S TRUE IDENTITY IS PLAYED OUT MODELING TONIA HARDING. HOW CAN THEY DO THIS WITH A CLEAR CONCIENCE??
Posted by: savoymt | March 25, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
If Hillary manages to arm-twist her way to the nomination, she will do the greatest damage to the democratic party since the civil war.
-jcr
Posted by: John C. Randolph | March 25, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
I don’t care what Hillary pulls as long as she wins. And there is a race issue because many voters will not vote for a person that is part black or all black.I wouldn’t vote for Obama even if Hillary doesn’t win the nomination I would much rather vote for McCain. I don’t like Obama and never liked him from the beginning.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 25, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
Whatever it takes to save the country from an Obama catastrophic Presidency.
Posted by: KDH55 | March 25, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Obama has the audacious arrogance to hope that his political ambitions are more important, are more legitimate, are more vital to this great nation than the will of the 2.5 MILLION voters in Michigan and Florida.
This goes WAY BEYOND a character flaw, it says something profoundly disturbing about his moral compass. This arrogance should inspire a wave of voter outrage so powerful that it crashes down upon him, destroying the ambition of one who would put self-serving strategy above this essential principle of democracy.
Posted by: smyles | March 25, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
You know what we Republican really find delicious? Guess who came up with the idea at the DNC to expell Michigan and Florida votes?
Give up? It was none other than Harold Ickes, now Hillary’s campaign manager! Priceless!
Posted by: Consultofactus | March 25, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Please, someone tell where the CENTRIST Republicans are?
Many Americans today have been enlightened by the two wars we find ourselves involved. One war, the “war on terrorism”, finds its main battleground in Afghanistan, and it is a war that costs lives and money but the majority of Americans support. Liberals, Democrats, Republicans, Conservatives, most don’t have a problem with us kicking down the doors of members of the Taliban.
When talking about the war in Iraq the parties have much difference. Democrats say that the public and congress was mislead to justify the war in Iraq and that the Bush Administration no longer deserves autonomy in situations where US service men and women’s lives are on the line. Based on the results of the last Congressional elections, most Americans see a problem with GOP/Republicans; at least in the way they make decisions about the use of our military.
So why is it that in the GOP/Republican party there are no dissenters, no independent thinkers, no moderates? Where are the real conservatives who would laugh at how conservatively the current Republican party has been spending taxes, and creating big government? Has the Republican Party lost its identity? Can the ideology of the GOP be so easily summed up in Karl Rove talking points like “support this and support that”, and angry rhetoric like “liberals are traitors”?
Hello centrist Republicans! Anybody out there?
Posted by: getcentered | March 25, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Doesn’t the media ever get ashamed of their headlines.
Anyone who beats Obama is good for America.
Posted by: seah | March 25, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
No–it’s not classy to call a former first lady Tanya Harding.
Then again, most former first ladies don’t have their key advisor calling a state governor “Judas” and a traitor.
Most former first ladies don’t have an advisor say publicly that a black man has it easier than a white woman.
Look at all the hate in these posts aimed at Obama–in a blogpost that is not directly about Obama. That’s exactly why Clinton cannot be president. There has been enough partisanship over the past 16 years. Clinton wants to continually refight the arguments of 1968. McCain and Obama do not.
Posted by: jim | March 25, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
Boy I am glad that Hillary took the blame for her current misrepresentation of the truth. Although in the back of her mind I am sure she thinks this another “right-wing conspiracy” checking the facts. The truth is she is an school politician trying to do what ever she can to get elcted this year, even if it means distorting the truth. If she does not get the nomination this year, then she wants to make sure McCain wins, then in four years she can unseed him. She does not care about the Democratic party, she only cares about herself. By the way did anyone catch the full quote today on Reverend Wright, she said you can not choose your relatives. Sure you can Hill, especially if you divorce them (i.e. Bill).
Posted by: Colin | March 25, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
If Hillary is Tonya Harding does that mean Bill is Jeff Gillooly?
You all need to lighten up. Go watch part 2 of Bush’s War on PBS tonight. Helps put all of this stuff in proper perspective.
Posted by: ToastOnDayOne | March 25, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
I look at it this way… if he can’t handle what Hillary Clinton throws at him then what’s he going to do in November when the GOP get a chance at him. I’m so sick of the crying and belly aching from the Obama supporters media included… this is a CONTEST it does require to have all 50 States heard so let it play out…. OH I FORGOT, OBAMA is playing the 48 State strategy…LOL The bottom line is neither candidate is going to get enough delegates to get the nomination so all is fair in love and politics here! I remember 1984 when this same thing happened and Mondale (in Obamas current position) was wisked into the nomination… you see how that turned out!
Regardless of this primary I think Obama people should be thinking to November. People who are solid Democrats like me who are voting for John McCain if Obama is my other choice. I would bet to say that there are at least 25% of Democrats who feel as strongly as I do about it. Losing even one State and the electorial college math goes right down the toilet for him. This not to mention the State of Florida which will go GOP because he chose to neglect any resolution to having the voters votes count there. My mother told me that she and a lot of her other solidly Democratic friends in S. FL that are voting for McCain this fall if Obama is on the ticket. I’m sure Obama doesn’t care though because epiphany will hit everyone and they will realize he is their savior! I wonder when epiphany is going to hit him? LOL
Posted by: Scott-Arlington,VA | March 25, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
I had no idea that the democrats were as dumb as this party has shown itself to be, starting with putting up a horrible candidate in the form of Barack Obama in the first place. He has no experience, he steals his ideas from other people, he never fights for anything, he backs off from things all the time. He is Bush all over again.
Meantime, a superb candidate in the form of Sen. Clinton is beaten up on. When she strikes back — she’s trying to “break the opponent’s back.”
The truth of the matter is that Barack Obama is NOT ACCEPTABLE. He is not acceptable whether Sen. Clinton or anyone points it out. And she could get out tomorrow, and the same truth would be revealed: Barack Obama is not good for the country (too much racial/religious tensions), has no foreign policy experience (his one foray resulted in the murder of thousands of Kenyans), and has no ideas about the economy.
He never showed leadership in the state senate … or the Senate. This is a total nightmare. Count FL/MI and give the nomination to Clinton who deserves it.
Posted by: scorbs | March 25, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
BO has been running a campaign of hope and change while his supporters have been out knee-capping those who favor Hillary. This has been going on for 16 months and it has gotten so bad that many, many Hillary supporters, tried and true Dems, will vote for McCain if BO is the nominee. Tell that to your DNC official — it doesn’t seem that he/she has a clue as to what is really happening in the Dem party.
Posted by: ann | March 25, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
If the Democrats at their MOST opportune time lose their changes to gain the White House, there is only 1 person for whom to blame – Howard Dean. Why is it that this man is still trying to “back the winner” instead of supporting the one he feels is the most electable against McCain? It just seems to me that everything Howard Dean touches turns to sour mash.
Posted by: MM | March 25, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Hey, it goes like this. If there are two people on top of a fifty story building and there is another fifty story building twenty feet away. The contest is to see who can jump to the other building safely. One of the contestants tries really hard. Takes a running start, has springs on his shoes to help. Jumps really far touches the other side with his finger tips and falls to the ground below. The other tries equally as hard but doesn’t make the distance to the other side. Question is, who at the bottom is more dead. The first or the second? Hillary and Obama are both “dead” when it comes to the delegate count. NEITHER one will make the distance. So the delegate count isn’t the actual contest. Making the case to the super delegates is. They will have to decide who is more electable, and has a better chance of winning the general election. Giving it to Obama because he has won “more delegates” from mostly insignificant states won’t be a good strategy. Who is able to win the big electoral states is the only “ruthless” strategy that will bring about a win in the general election. If anyone should concede it’s Obama. He has absolutely NO chance of winning Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, California and the other states Hillary has already proven SHE can win. “As Ohio goes, so goes the nation” and they don’t like Obama in Ohio. That’s a fact. Since the Wright scandal, you can bet they like him even less. This election process is going to HAVE to become a strategy or the Dems are dead at the bottom. Hillary understands the process much better than Obama. That’s why she knows she’ll get the nomination. After all, she does have more experience. John McCain would love to have Obama as the nominee. If people think Hillary is ruthless, they’ll learn what ruthless really is if Obama goes up against McCain. At the end of that day, when Obama looses, he’ll not only loose the presidency, but any future hopes of running for the highest office in the land. He’ll be much like Ted Kennedy was and is. Ted Kennedy does a lot of good things in the senate, but no one will forget Mary Jo Kopechne, ever. When McCain is through with Obama we’ll know more than we EVER wanted to know about him. It won’t be pretty. John McCain will be honorable but he will fiercly defend this country against it falling into the hands of the likes of Obama. Hillary’s no villan, it’s the democratic party that set this system up. Blame Howard Dean.
Posted by: Texas Lil | March 25, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
The only disenfranchisement is the self-inflicted wound by the Fl and Mich. Dem. party officials. The NC primary is in May. Did we try to circumvent the established rules and change our date, too. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Our votes will be counted when we put Barack Obama over the top and send Hillary on a much needed vacation. Obama is vacationing in the V.I. Which candidate is acting desperate? Her family has already had one president. Talk about selfish. it’s not the Clinton’s birthright to occupy the WH. Maybe Chelsea can get there later. Hillary please save the dignity you have left and go home, please.
Posted by: Bussta Brown | March 25, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
SUPERB CANDIDATE??
What the crap.
What makes her the right choice to lead this country? The lies, the scandals? The refusal to release information? How about switching states carpetbagging for office, choosing New York instead of Arkansas or Illinois?
There are two good candidates this time around–McCain and Obama. Both have shown a willingness to admit errors, both have stuck to unpopular positions, and both represent change away from the Bush/Clinton 16 years of dynasty and bickering.
if Clinton is a superb candidate, the Royals and Pirates will be in the World Series.
Posted by: jim | March 25, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
Thank you. Why aren’t more media outlets covering this story? Someone needs to put a stop to HRC, and soon. Before she destroys America.
Posted by: Michael Johnson | March 25, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
People who vote for Republicans are very angry right now. They feel somewhat responsible for our brothers and sisters dying in Iraq, and they should, but that does not mean that because you voted for a warmonger in the last few elections that you have to continue to do so.
Republicans:
Stop feeling so bad and stop voting for GOP’er just because you keep hearing the word “team” associated with them. This is not Football, your votes can help decide whether our brothers and sisters fight and die for causes that all Americans believe in and support.
Do not let your guilt get in the way of your intelligence!
By the way, where are the centrist Republicans? Why does the GOP have to have a big rubber stamp as a constituency?
I would rather have a “inexperienced” Democrat wasting a billion on helping the poor or disabled or uneducated, than have a neo-con Republican blow a billion on killing tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi and thousands of US service men and women.
In the last 8 years or so Republicans have shown me that they will do anything and everything in their power to keep you from retaining an opinion based on the facts that their incompetence is comprised of.
Posted by: getcentered | March 25, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
Hillary is getting crazier by the second. It’s a shame I use to respect her.
Posted by: MJ | March 25, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
This is so correct. Clintons will do whatever they can to beat Obama…..
McCain’s camp loves this story…..
Posted by: ddn | March 25, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Where’s Al Gore, when you need him?
Posted by: Stitch | March 25, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
Texas Lil, you’re dead wrong. Obama easily wins NY and California in the national election. These states are reliably democratic every election cycle. To think otherwise is ignorant. This is the folly of Clinton’s flawed big state strategy. Blue states like these will always be blue. Please…
Posted by: rco | March 25, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
I just watched the Frontline special Bush’s War. I am simply amazed by the kind of self promoting and scheming people of the Bush administration who bungled the Iraq war. I am not surprised by the extent to which some people in Washington could go to trash their opponent. The hunger for power in Washington is astounding. I would not be surprised that a Tonya Harding will be unleashed on Obama, not only politically but physically and there needs to be a surge of secret service cordon around Obama.
Posted by: gjkotw01 | March 25, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
The slow agonizing murder-suicide of the Democrats this November
Go BIG MAC
Posted by: John | March 25, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
The slow agonizing murder-suicide of the Democrats this November
Go BIG MAC
Posted by: John | March 25, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS DOOMED!
OBAMA’S SUPPORTERS WON’T VOTE FOR HILLARY.
HILLARY’S SUPPORTERS SAY “HELL NO” TO OBAMA.
WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE THE PARTY?
Posted by: independent voter | March 25, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
And this is actually news? Anyone who hasn’t been living under a rock for the past 16 years should know full well that when it comes to getting and retaining power, nothing is beneath the Clintons. They will say and do whatever they have to do … WHATEVER they have to do … to win.
As a McCain supporter, I am absolutely loving this. GIVE ‘EM HELL HILLARY!!!
Posted by: Dan R. | March 25, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
I am sick and tired of Senator Clinton being blamed for the breakup of the Democratic Party. You guys just don’t get it.
Posted by: Leigh | March 25, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
Now the country and the Super delegates.She will take the party down, She must be stopped. All super delegates can stop it right now Endorse Barack Obama now . It will be all over, said and done then we can go and win the White House
Posted by: Lauren | March 25, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Obama will not win the Presidency.
Posted by: Leigh | March 25, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
So, Clintons will go to historical trash can.
Posted by: brightofeyes | March 25, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Bogus stories like this are an attack on all women. The backlash will be even GREATER support for Hillary Clinton. Thank you for your seedy journalism. With your backhanded help, I know she can win! CLINTON FOR THE WIN!
Posted by: Connie P. | March 25, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Hillary made this war attack story up, which disrespect our men and women serving in the Armed Forces.
Posted by: William Brooks | March 25, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
This is just a case of projection on the part of your anonymous official. The Democratic establishment (Dean, Pelosi) is so terrified that their Annointed one will screw up again before the convention that they are exerting tremendous pressure on Hillary to quit instead. That includes throwing everything including the kitchen sink at her in terms of maligning her and her campaign.
Posted by: Mac | March 25, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
UNKNOWN SOURCE
Posted by: Kenneth | March 25, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
I thought everyone knew that was her strategy. Destroy Obama, destroy the party – If I don’t get it, neither will you. She has gone way passed acceptable campaigning, especially a contest for the nomination of your party. The woman has no morals – just her overwhelming sense of entitlement to the presidency. I hope the party steps in soon to end this show as Bill Richardson has called for, before it’s too late for democrats
Posted by: Sarah | March 25, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Shame on those who support HRC. She is going to put another republican into office and that scares me. She will never win the national election but had decided this election belongs to her. Instead of realizing the higher ground is to walk away, mend fences and present a unified front, she will continue to tears the country apart because it’s all about her — it’s all about what she thinks she is entitled to have, the results be damned. And shame on those females who tell me I should support her just because of gender. She has stabbed you all in the back setting women’s right back decade and you want to support that? Shame on you and shame on her. At least one will not get the message!
Posted by: Rae D | March 25, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
We’ll have to agree to disagree rco. California has gone Republican, Ohio flip flops, once upon a time Texas was solidly Democratic, no more. The south was once solidly Democratic. But now in general is Republican. Things change if they have the right motivation. The recent revelations about Obama, for most they’re, well. “obaminations”. Remember the Dixie Chicks? Same thing. Even though I personally don’t agree with what happened to them, they had every right to say what they said. However Obama’s actions and associations are anti-American, not just anti-president.
Posted by: Texas Lil | March 25, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Shame on those who support HRC. She is going to put another republican into office and that scares me. She will never win the national election but had decided this election belongs to her. Instead of realizing the higher ground is to walk away, mend fences and present a unified front, she will continue to tears the country apart because it’s all about her — it’s all about what she thinks she is entitled to have, the results be damned. And shame on those females who tell me I should support her just because of gender. She has stabbed you all in the back setting women’s right back decade and you want to support that? Shame on you and shame on her. At least one will not get the message!
Posted by: Rae D | March 25, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Consider this: SHE IS *NOT* BILL CLINTON. She’s riding on HIS coattails. If Bill had never been president, nobody would have cared about her.
Posted by: Robert | March 25, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Pelosi and Dean – the two most liberal democrats campaigning for BO! Pelosi can not accept the fact that she will no longer be the most powerful woman in politics. Ms. Pelosi – Madam Clinton will treat you with respect. She will allow time for the botox shots. So, chill! So, Mr. Dean, FL and Michigan deserve to be heard or this election will not be legitmate. And you know that…so, stop the pandering for BO!
Posted by: mike | March 25, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
Blaming Hillary for the downfall of the Democratic Party is like blaming Eve for the downfall of mankind. LOL!
Posted by: Carlos | March 25, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
Hilary supporters mostly support her out of emotions. I’ve rarely seen a supporter who makes an intelligent case for Hillary. Its always “she has more experience” period but never an analysis of her actual experience.
No wonder she can easily lie to her supporters – ’cause she knows they never ask questions.
Its a tragedy being a “Yes” person. For goodness sake, ask questions. Atleast once.
flex
Posted by: flex | March 25, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Great analogy — hope this gets some widespread coverage. It seems like something Hillary’s supporters might understand.
Another thought — what does Hillary’s relentless approach show about her JUDGMENT? Do we really want a president who in the face of all odds just continues down the path of their choice relentlessly without listening to anyone (sounds familiar but not something we want to repeat).
Posted by: john c | March 25, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
The Bosnia trip issue was NOT and I repeat was NOT brought up by Obama campain. When will you Hillary supporters accept responsibility for the flawed candidate you’re supporting.
Posted by: flex | March 25, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
If she so call “break is back” and destroy Obama posibility of been president, she must start looking for a new Job, because she will never again be elected senator from New York. she must think because we are washing her.
Posted by: Clayton, Ny | March 25, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
robert wrote:
Consider this: SHE IS *NOT* BILL CLINTON. She’s riding on HIS coattails. If Bill had never been president, nobody would have cared about her.
Response: Robert we do care, very much, have cared for 16 years, about both Clintons.
That is what is different about us as opposed to you Obama supporters. We support them flaws and all! We know about the Clintons, we have “shoveled dirt” for 16 years and still trust HRC to lead the country.
You Obama folks have about a 6 mo. relationship with a “shadow” candidate. All the dirt re Obama is just now coming out, and will continue to flow like lava. You better get your shovels, we have ours!
Posted by: Mike in Texas | March 25, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Obama destroys Obama. Obama’s problem will follow Obama like his shadow.
Rezko, Ayers, Wright, McPeak, Odinga, these issues will not magically disappear if Hillary dropped out.
DNC should be thankful that they have a strong candidate left in the race when Obama problem is beginning to be unearthed by right wing media.
Posted by: joeysky | March 26, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
I’m 1000% confident that Democrat party will not get anymore red cent from Hillary supporters.
They will regret this remark.
Posted by: joeysky | March 26, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
One cannot “break the back” of a spineless creature!
Equivalent to breaking a snake”s “back”!
Ain’t no way!
Posted by: Mike in Texas | March 26, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
Let us top looking at the popular vote. Let’s stop looking at the superdelegates and who won the most states. The truth of the matter we really need to take a look at the electoral college and who wins the most there because that is what we need in November.
If the DNC does include FL and MI the election is McCain’s and there is no doubt about it.
Posted by: navyvet48 | March 26, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
MikeinTexas: Thanks, you know what, they really don’t get it, you’re right!The sad thing is, does the DNC realize how many loyal Democrats, the core of the party, that they’re going to lose because of this nomination process? How many in Florida and Michigan? How many of the older people and minorities who feel disenfranchised because of the caucus process? I feel no loyalty whatsoever to a party that has shown so little loyalty to its members, and I know I am only one of the millions who feel this way.
Posted by: Grammy Barb | March 26, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
Fact is, Clinton did not have to exagerate her Bosnia trip. She is already more qualified than Obama. I also think that her embellisments did not hurt anybody. On the other hand, we can only guess the effects of the hateful and divisive speeches spewed out by Obama’s pastor and Obama’s so-called landmark speech on race and the “typical white person” comments.
Posted by: Haha | March 26, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
It’s a pity that most Americans are not critical thinks. They don’t know what is good for them, sorry to say this. The White house is not the birth-right for HRC, and she uses all negative ads to lie to Americans that cannot see the hand writing on the wall for change. She is a recycle politician who has nothing to offer to Americans than her pride. This is not do or die affair but for the sake of Americans – in Iraq, and at home. Obama cannot be judged by his pastor’s wrong words. With God on Obama’s side, miracle is sure to happen. Long live the first black president.
Posted by: phil | March 26, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
Great. The ugly and, finally, real HRC arrives to fight dirty so she can serve her ego. Relying on the old bitter dems and uneducated race haters (covert of course if your a dem) for votes. I’m tired of this baby-boomer win-at-all-cost bullcrap. You old bitter dems have had you chance and screwed the pooch. The past thirty years you’ve been too busy riding your moral high horses to get anything done. Same goes for the baby-boomer GOP’ers. The younger generation is too pragmatic to put up with this garbage for much longer. Let’s hope the change starts this Fall with Obama.
Posted by: Art | March 26, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
Men,
It is the press who has been trying to make Clinton unelectable from the very beginning. On the other hand, Obama IS unelectable from the very beginning.
In any case, this comment and comparison by you , Mr Tapper, is really the worst I heard in this campaign. Thhis is my last look to your comments. You are terribly biased!
Hello and Bye, bye, bye
Posted by: John | March 26, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
It suddenly hit me that BO is probably “caught in between”. In between races, in between cultures, believes, and perhaps, just perhaps even religions (do we really know?)
I feel that he is a good man who means well. He has taken fullest advantage of the best that our great nation has to offer to those who aspire to a better future and study hard.
But I also feel he is not seasoned enough. He lacks experience and has a mediocre record and resume which shows little sweat and no bold achievements. This, he effectively replaces with charm, good posture, nice endorsements, and superb oratory which crumbles, however, when he is not scripted.
What concerns me the most though is his HUGE recently discovered LACK of JUDGEMENT and the fact that we simply do NOT know him.
It is just impossible to believe that he “chose” to associate himself with Pastor Wright and his church for 20 years and never “batted an eye”. How can anyone expose ones family and children to such hateful sermons delivered in the name of God?. How can anyone choose this man as ones “spiritual” advisor and visit him, eat with him, have him marry you, baptize your kids and listen to his sermons every weekend for two decades?. Either Barack Obama is very confused and “caught in between” and thus part of him buys into some of this hateful words, or he is plain naive and stupid (not). The other very real and sad possibility is that Barack Obama is one of the most calculating ambitious politician of recent times. He is someone who appears quite capable and comfortable of doing anything to get where he needs to get, someone who would step over race, over culture, over identity, even parenting values for the sole purpose of his political ambitions – an opportunist.
Any of these possibilities are not only frightening, but immediately disqualify him, in my opinion, for ANY national public post, least of all the Presidency of the United States.
So, as much as I think he is a good man, he will never get my vote. I simply do not know him, and frankly do not trust him.
Sadly, most of the media has done little to give this issue enough coverage. They are not digging deeper. We deserve to know. He is getting a HUGE pass just by delivering a ‘speech’, no questions? no nothing?. A speech delivered out of desperation not out of conviction. I simply do not understand why the same media that crucify (often rightly so) politicians for having extra marital affairs is not interested in probing more into this association which involves indoctrination for 2 decades from someone who is a real American disloyal.
Why such biased coverage? Why the lack of interest? The lack of objectivity to BO’s lack of judgment is unbelievable.
So, as we move closer to the election, I keep hoping that some of these comments from us Americans make some of the media reflect on the skewed coverage. I can only hope you care and …….change.
Posted by: george | March 26, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
It’s a pity that most Americans are not critical thinks. They don’t know what is good for them, sorry to say this. The White house is not the birth-right for HRC, and she uses all negative ads to lie to Americans that cannot see the hand writing on the wall for change. She is a recycle politician who has nothing to offer to Americans than her pride. This is not do or die affair but for the sake of Americans – in Iraq, and at home. Obama cannot be judged by his pastor’s wrong words. With God on Obama’s side, miracle is sure to happen. Long live the first black president.
Posted by: phil | March 26, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
Obama is not qualified to get the nomination. If, by mistake, he gets it, it will be worth the same as Reform Party nomination. Ask McGovern, Mondale and Dukakis.
Posted by: Roger Miller | March 26, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
The Tonya Harding analogy “works” because their is some accuracy to it.
I just cant believe there are a significant number of people out there who still see this women as president-worthy.
I guess people are too busy to follow news clips and statements that come out of her mouth. She has given countless examples of being inconsistent in her thinking and exspressions; she has been clearly disingenuous; she doesnt even try very hard to seem consistent.
Maybe Bill and the Clinton camp are operating on the basis of research that supports a “do and say anything” to win approach–since such a large portion of the population are either not paying attention or not discerning enough to recognize inconsistencies and deceptiveness.
But. If the masses can elect George W. Bush twice, I guess anythings possible; however depressing.
I’m still holding out hope that the American people or the current “fence-walking” superdelegates will put an end to the Democratic race soon. Otherwise its going to be Bush Light with John McCain.
Posted by: Mike Denhof | March 26, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
Obama may be where he is partly because of his race but Clinton wouldn’t even have made senator if she wasn’t married to a president
Posted by: KnivesofLaird | March 26, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
revisited08 — So what is it like to be on the outside?
Posted by: smyles | March 26, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
A Bad Week For Hillary Clinton
Not long ago the talk was about how Obama was having a bad month, but things certainly began to turn around as I noted a few days ago. Suddenly the news is all coming out looking bad for Clinton, often because of foolish moves on her part.
Ive a…
Posted by: Liberal Values | March 26, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
Who was this ‘anonymous’ source? Another Obama campaign official? Putting something like this out there sounds just like some dirty trick the Obama thugs would manufacture.
Hillary has every right to stay in this campaign. It is Obama who will do anything to get the nomination. He has proved that over and over.
Posted by: julie | March 26, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
Hillary is too smart to use the Tonya Harding option. If she did, it would split the party in two, ensure she loses big time to McCain and makes her a pariah in the Democratic Party.
Posted by: John | March 26, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
Hillary Clinton needs to be very careful about using the “Tonia Harding” option. That plan could backfire. I think there are things in Hillary’s past that she wouldn’t want the world to know about and someone wouldn’t have to dig very deep in her files or do much investigating to find them.
Posted by: carlyonsue | March 26, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
‘Tonya Harding option’ ? Let’s just raise a few more negative female stereotypes to add to the blatant pro-Obama media bias.
All Clinton needs to do to win is let every vote be free and be counted. Let Florida and Michigan voters and super-delegates have their say. It’s not like a caucus is any more democratic than being an elected member of congress.
Posted by: Alex w | March 26, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
I’m just amazed at Clinton supporters. Obama has ran an extremely positive campaign. Think about how negatively he could have gone considering all of the dirt the Clinton’s have in their past. He hasn’t done that. He has, in fact, tried to run an extremely positive campaign and has only fired back when he’s been pushed into a corner by the disgustingly negative Clinton campaign.
How can Clinton supporters be so negative towards Obama? It’s really disturbing to me. Don’t Clinton supporters realize that McCain represents 4 more years of George W. Bush? Don’t they realize that the Jeremiah Wright “issue” is the “swiftboating” of Barack Obama and a completely ridiculous non-issue? I mean seriously… WAKE UP! This is it!
Obama played fair and he has WON. Get over it! This is far more important than petty political bickering. The future of this country and the world is at stake. We cannot afford 4 more years of neocon policy.
Barack Obama 2008!
Posted by: The Presidential Candidates | March 26, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am
To NeverObama,—————– I challenge you to tell me how Obama had anything to do with MI and FL. Blame those state legislatures. They are the ones who said “NO”!!!!
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
I’m so proud of Obama! He’s going to be the first black American to lose a presidential election! This is so exciting!
Posted by: JustJake | March 26, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
as if it were still necessary to make obama unelectable.
He can’t carry the blue states. He lost most of it to Hillary. He can’t carry the red states because of his hypocrite on Wright fiasco and his “typical white people” remarks. How he’s going to win the general election?
Posted by: joeysky | March 26, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am
I don’t think either candidate has a chance because Hillary is going to have Bill trip Obama up with a stick so he can only get as high as Senator (which is the equivalent of a silver) and she’ll be spending the next 8 years in prison for denying but later being accused of being responsible for planning and scheming to hit Obama in the knees. And Bill or Hillary’s secret service man will also spend a year in prison for knowingly being an accomplice. And Obama will be seen occasionally on talk shows especially on each anniversary (in 5 year increments) of the whack to the knees. Once Hillary is out of prison she’ll take up dancing so she can compete on dancing with the stars where she’ll be the next to the oldest competitor, Jerry Springer being the oldest. We’ll see her slide gracefully across the dancefloor like an Olympic skater and swing her arms back and forth like a professional boxer. Obama will be seen occasionally on the cover of the “NE” a wonderfully truthful and inspiring publication that never distorts the facts, with a 10 lb. weight gain and pot belly that he didn’t have in yesterdays picture, blaming it on an old knee injury and standing on the beach next to his great uncle Rev. J. Wright who is in shorts and a t-shirt emblazoned with Proud to be an American and his wife Michelle who is wearing a t-shirt stating Proud to be an American for the first time.
Posted by: Sue | March 26, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am
Not that it’s really the issue of this post, but can I just go one step further with the MI and FL thing? It’s worth clarifying that their decisions were not made by the “state parties,” as some suggest, but in fact, their state legislatures. Ostensibly acting on behalf of their constituents.
I feel for people in Florida and Michigan to some extent. It’s a lousy scenario. But rewarding Floridians and Michiganders who couldn’t or wouldn’t keep their representatives from defying party rules in a quest for $$…this disenfranchises ME, as well as the other 48 states worth of us who played by the rules.
Here in Montana, a bill was introduced last year to do the exact same thing, move our primary up from June 3 (when it “would never count”) to February or March. And it was shot down. Not by some incomprehensible back-room party process, but by people — the citizens of the state — playing an active role in state government.
Folks in Florida and Michigan had control over this to the same extent they have control over every other decision their representatives make.
Posted by: BrianMT | March 26, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
What guys (or girls) like our anonymous friend don’t seem to get is that Obama is making himself unacceptable. We don’t know who he is, and the more we find out, the worse it gets. The Democratic primary electorate – well, about half of it anyway – may forgive his 20-year association with the likes of Rev. Wright, but the general electorate will not.
Posted by: FreakyBeaky | March 26, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
Good grief; I, unlike Michelle O’Bama, have never been so NOT proud of many of my fellow Americans. Listening to the vile, petty, mean, and racist comments being spoken about both candidates is pathetic. Who raised some of you people? And it is so nice to see ABC News stooping to new lows like their competitors at Fox, CNN, and MSNBC, in order to attract more readers. What happened to real journalism? This so-called”story” has brought a new low to this profession. No credible journalist would have ever printed this article.
Yes, I support Senator Clinton, because I believe she is the only person who has been tested and can take on John McCain in any debate – and win. She is the only candidate that is capable of bringing real change in this country. Unfortunately, we women have not yet evolved enough to start supporting other strong, intelligent women. Instead we are jealous, petty, and tear them apart at every opportunity. Until we ALL start believing we are truly equal, we will continue to be treated as inferior; not as strong, smart, capable, or tough. There is not a male politician today that has withstood the literal slander Hillary has endured, and still kept her dignity, done her job well, and BTW – got re-elected. What is so disgusting is how much of this garbage has come from women.
I don’t care how eloquent or bright Senator O’Bama is, he is still a MAN – from an Ivy League college, and is untested on a national level compared to McCain. Besides, another man in the White House is not really any kind of change as far as I’m concerned.
As for the DNC, they have continued to be blind to their own screw up regarding Florida and Michigan. They have boxed themselves into a corner and have no way out. This race to we the grassroots Democrats, is as close as any in history. The voters in Florida and Michigan deserve to be heard. The states that have yet to vote deserve to be heard. Why on earth should the Democratic nominee NOT be decided at the convention?? IS that not what it is for??? (Other than you officials giving yourselves some great parties) of course.
It will be Hillary for me regardless of what is printed on my ballot. I will vote and it will be for a Democrat – I will write her name in. It will no doubt be another 25 years before we will have another woman in contention and I am tired of waiting for “our” time.
Posted by: Nancy in the NW | March 26, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am
To mimi5, —————- I do not work for Obama. Nice try though. I wish I was getting paid because I could sure use the money. I have never met him nor anyone from his campaign.
But it wasn’t Obama who divided the Party. Obama DID NOT USE HIS RACE. How about you go back and show me when he did this? He gave a speech about race because he understood that the Wright contraversy had evrything to do with race. The majority of white Americans simply don’t understand the Black community. The majority of White Americans would rather forget the sins of America’s past with regards to slavery and segregation and ignore the racial problems that divide this country. Racial issues is never a comfortable topic but Obama decided to treat America like adults and discuss the problem, rather than like children and ignore it.
This election SHOULD NOT be about any of that stuff. It should be about issues. If you believe Hillary is the best candidate, thats fine. But lets stop smearing one another. We are all after the same THINGS!!!
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
To Roger Miller,———————-
Destroying the democratic party may be what you want in order to get Hillary elected four years from now, but then that begs the question of why it is so important that Hillary ges to be president? Is it because she is a woman and nothing else matters? It can’t be becuase of her policies because they match Obama’s 95% So, what is SOOO important about Hillary being President that you would rather see the Democratic Party destroyed? Your post suggest that Hillary is only in it for the Power and not for the good of her country.
As for Wright, I am willing to bet you can’t name one of the thousands of good thing that Wright has done for needy people. Wright was simply angry at America during a ew of his sermons. Every American has that right? WHy demonize the man and a member of his congregation for it? If it were Hillary, i would not fault her for it.
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
To OnlyHillary,——— Can you please tell me what is so important about Hillary that you’d rather a republican with completely different ideas than Hillary and Obama, take the White House? That means that you are not a true democrat. That begs the question why are you supporting Her? Is it because she is a woman, is it because you can’t stand the thought of a black man in the White House? Why would you rather have another for years of makin our country worse than it is rather than a democrat no matter who he or she is?
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
if only obama was not guaranteed to lose in November, Senator Clinton might be more receptive to talk about a concession……however, it is PAINFULLY clear that only Senator Clinton can withstand a blistering effort from anti-American groups to keep the white house in republican hands, and that our children cannot afford
Posted by: chris | March 26, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
To Gobacktoillinois,———— Please tell me how Obama blocked the Michigan vote? From what I read and understood, the MI legislature decided not to vote on it. None of the states want to hold a do-over. It is not Obama’s fault that they broke the rules. It is NOT Obama’s fault that they did not want to revote.
Please explain this.
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am
a true Democrat wants what is best for our children, our troops and our country…..the easy answer for this question is Senator Clinton…..1. because she is capable of achieving such goals that will be most beneficial for our children and our troops and our economy….2. she can easily beat mccain, and she can withstand the inevitable swift boat vets-style attack this fall….obama, much as you will feebly try to disagree, cannot
Posted by: chris | March 26, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
i don’t remember anyone telling obama to take his name off of the michigan ballot
Posted by: chris | March 26, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am
obama’s manipulation of racial politics for his own political gain is proof positive that his actions of divisiveness speak louder than his apparently empty rhetoric of unity….shame on obama
Posted by: chris | March 26, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am
To Kikz,—————— we are not interested in what the GOP thinks of Obama go crawl back into bed wit Rush and let intelligent people debate. I will vote for Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, or Mickey Mouse 20 times before any GOP candidate!!!!
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am
I am an undecided voter, but if you ask me, any state that has banned teaching of evolution (until last month or so) has no business electing the commander of the country. Florida? Those folks make the Taliban look more civilized.
Posted by: tata | March 26, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am
i intend to support the Democratic nominee, regardless of who it is…..but i supported john kerry with all my might and all my words…..in the end, he was unable to survive the swift boat vets, and i sincerely fear that obama’s campaign will meet the same end……my child deserves the best shot for a better future, and I know in my heart of hearts that Senator Clinton is that best shot
Posted by: chris | March 26, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am
Every time the US elects someone who is way to the right or way to the left, the country gets into trouble. I will not vote for Obama because he is way to the left and labeled as the most liberal senator of 2007. I think that is why a lot of Hillary supporters would rather vote for McCain than Obama. I am not die hard democrat – I will vote for who I think is best for the country and not who is best for DNC.
Posted by: echo | March 26, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am
i have a compromise solution for most obama supporters: don’t attempt to tear down Senator Clinton, and I won’t publicly embarrass you
Posted by: chris | March 26, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am
Chris, —————— Obama has tried desperately not to make race an issue in this campaign, but the media and the GOP forced him into a corner with this silly Wright contraversy. This was the only MAJOR thing they could attack him with. I don’t know about you but I am afraid of a time when people start looking at what 30 second segment of over 100,000 minutes of a Pastor’s sermon they can use against someone.
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am
Its hard to imagine Ms. Clinton could play any dirtier than she already has. She is already playing the Tonya Harding option.
The superdelegates need to get off the fence and pick a Democratic candidate before both are destroyed. Apparently some superdelegates are thinking that they will be able to make the most infromed decision if they wait until the convention. This is not a responsible way of thinking about this. If we wait that long, John McCain will be unbeatable due to a severely damaged Democratic Nominee (no matter who it is).
Please. Please. Please Superdelegates. Follow Bill Richardson’s lead and take a stance before it is too late for our party.
Posted by: Mike Denhof | March 26, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
knightcaptain….obama made race an issue long before wright when he erroneously and maliciously accused Senator Clinton of demeaning the memory of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. by merely acknowledging the contributions made by President Johnson to the Civil Rights Movement
Posted by: chris | March 26, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
To Chris, ————— First of all, you can say anything you want. You are nit embarrasing me. I am not that immature as to become insulted by what someone online, who does not know me says about anything.
Second of all, I agree with you. Let’s stop tearing down one another and have civilized discussions. I am voting for Hillary, should she get the nomination. I definately am voting for Obama as well should he wins. Any democrat befor another GOP clown
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am
anything Senator Clinton does now to obama will be considered love-making when compared to what the special interest groups will inevitably inflict this november, and it won’t matter who the nominee is
Posted by: chris | March 26, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am
without a doubt, they will thank you
Posted by: chris | March 26, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
knight…..you are not attacking Senator Clinton so you are not in my sights…..fact of the matter is I mostly agree with you….
Posted by: chris | March 26, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am
actually, i COMPLETELY agree with you
Posted by: chris | March 26, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am
Chris———————, Obama did not criticize Clinton for her remarks. Some of his supporters did, granted, but it was the media that blew this way out of proportion. The whole thing started when Obama was responding to Clinton’s argument that Words don’t matter. He said that Dr. Kings speeches are what moved people to protest and end segregation and that the right words can inspire people. Clinton then said that it wa Johnson signing the Civil Rights act into law that brought about change— ACtion, not words. A lot of people rightly felt like she was belittling Dr. King’s role in the Civil Rights Movement and she should have known better. She went to two of Dr. King’s Speeches. SHe should NOT HAVE ATTACKED OBAMA, and instead focused on her strengths.
Obama did not play the race card. She opened her mouth without thinking first (probably due to lack of sleep at the time) and the media POUNCED.
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am
i am a multi-tasker…I am capable of engaging someone like you in a reasonable and constructive discussion regarding the issues and the problems we are experiencing during this unique election year while simultaneously humiliating those whose idea of “supporting” obama is to act like an anti-American neo-conservative and attack Senator Clinton personally and politically……it didn’t work for THEM for 14 years; what makes them think it will work NOW?
Posted by: chris | March 26, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am
A “Democratic Party official, who asked for anonymity”…
Oh, brother, what a scoop. Better get a Senior National Correspondent on that hot lead, quick.
Guess what – I’m a “Democratic Party official” too (director on a county party executive board), and I say
HILLARY, HANG IN THERE!
WE’RE WITH YOU ALL THE WAY TO DENVER!
*****A
Posted by: Adrienne in CA | March 26, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am
BTW, I guess in this scenario, Obama would be Nancy Kerrigan, clutching his knee and whining, “Why me, why meeee?!”
Heh.
*****A
Posted by: Adrienne in CA | March 26, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am
Chris,—————– If only there were more people like you and me out there. I too supported John Kerry to no avail. I think that if the party really wants a democrat in office they need to unite and do whatever it takes to win. We learned a valuable lesson in 2004. That lesson was conservatives will dance with the devil himself and sink to the nastiest of lows to win an election. Maybe Hillary is the best to fend off these attacks. But Obama is betting than he can do better than Edwards to appeal to the minds and common sense of Americans to beat the GOP. That is why he engaged the race issue head on instead of ducking it. You have got to respect the man for treating us like Adults who can have an honest conversation rather than like children. It could be political suicide but he will always have my respect for it.
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am
I share a unique connection with Sen. Obama. My father is African (Nigerian) and my mother is an Anglo-American. I too have a non-traditional name. I can’t understand how people can make Mr. Obama out to be racist. Isn’t he technically just as white as he is black? I only consider myself black because society has attached that label to me as they have done to Mr. Obama. This is no longer the 5o’s, this is o8, I think having a bi-racial president wouldn’t hurt this country one bit. I’ve heard family members’ white and black make anti-American statements, mostly out of frustration. I too have questioned our leadership; it’s our right as an American to do so. At the beginning of this primary, I, like a number of my “African-American” friends, supported Hillary; however through the process we’ve noticed that she is very similar to our current president (i.e. entitlement, deceit, flip-floppiness, delusions of grandeur, divisiveness, ect…..) Some Hillary supporters say she is a fighter, I disagree, she seems like she’s a spoiled child that hasn’t gotten her way so she wants to spoil the(democratic) party(pun intended). She agreed that FL and MI shouldn’t hold their primaries early and their votes wouldn’t count. Now that she is no longer the front-runner she decides to cry foul. I question her leadership, her character and her agenda. Change is needed in Washington, not only for America’s sake, but the world as a whole. America used to be a symbol of Freedom and Equality, but this whole process is just another example that we are headed in the wrong direction, and Mr. McCain will be our next president.
Posted by: Thisispathetic in Ohio | March 26, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am
it makes me absolutely nuts that so many are so easily manipulated into believing what others suggest to them…..its the reason why bush was re-elected and the reason why obama will undoubtedly lose in the general if he gets the nomination…..Senator Clinton, on the other hand, has been attacked so much that people have gotten sick of it, which explains why such attacks against her have been mostly ineffective
Posted by: chris | March 26, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am
To All Democratic Voters:
Even as an Obama supporter, I can certainly understand the anger you must be feeling right now. I know because I have been severely disappointed in the past too. Let me start with Clinton. I adore Senator Clinton and her husband. I believe these two are wonderful people that care deeply for America’s future. I had been hoping ever since 2004 that she would run for President and win because I believe she would make an excellent President. I was excited when she announced her candidacy. I thought FINALLY! America will be back on track.
I first heard Obama speak at the 2004 democratic national convention in Boston, Massachusetts. He hadn’t won his US Senate seat yet, as he was still competing against his republican opponent. His speech was the best at the convention. I knew then that he would be President of the United States one day. So, when I heard that he was running for President, I thought it was a mistake because it was too soon for him. But after observing his campaign, listening to his message, and getting to know him, I found myself facing a very hard decision. I decided to support Obama because of what he stood for and the general way he ran his campaign.
You know, when I think about it, this nomination process should be like choosing between caramel and fudge!!! Both equally delicious, but which one? Instead, the process has destroyed and split the party. Looking at the most recent polls, this fight could very well cost the party the election. An election which should have easily been won!!! I admit that in my anger with Hillary Supporters, I have posted some angry things about Clinton, but I am trying to move past that. I urge all of Hillary’s supporters and Obama’s supporters to support whomever the nominee is. I know that there has been some very harsh words on both sides. But I now believe that we can have an intelligent debate without the divisive elements that has been injected into this campaign season. The Ferraro and Rev. Wright controversy was about race. Racial issues do run deep in this country as the exit polls have shown, but this election should be about healing and uniting America, not about Gender or Race or what some advisor or Pastor said.
With that being said, I think we should all take a step back, and breathe. We should look at the situation as it stands and really consider what is best for us as democrats. The only way Hillary can catch up in the delegate count is if she seriously break Obama down. That would do nothing but fuel the divisiveness and cause a civil war within the party, effectively handing the country over to McCain and denying ourselves the glorious future that lie ahead with a democrat in office. It is time to do what is best for the party and support the person with the most states won, more popular votes and more delegates won. That person is Senator Barack Obama. Senator Hillary Clinton has run an extraordinary campaign. I applaud her for her strength, her message, and her persistence on the issues that matter to her the most. But, now, it is time for her to step aside and let the general election begin. Her continued fight is doing nothing but continuing to hurt the party. Obama has a difficult task ahead at defeating McCain. He will need our support. I urge all Obama supporters and Hillary supporters to stop attacking one another and save the energy for the true enemy: The GOP.
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am
Not so fast . One thing is for sure. There cannot be any conventon without the delegates from Florida & Michigan being seated. The fairest way is to give the uncommitted delegates in MI to Obama and let the results in Florida stand as they are because both Obama’s name and Clinton’s name was on the ballot. In fact Obama was even putting ads on CNN in the state.. This is the method 5 used on the following web site :
Clinton will have then 1688 & Obama will have 1744 total delegates.
NOW LET US ASSUME THAT CLINTON GETS PA, WV , PR BY 20% AND IN & KY BY 10% EACH AND OR BY 5% AND OBAMA WINS SD & MT BY 25% , CLINTON WILL HAVE NET GAIN OF 45 IN THE REMAINING PRIMARIES.. This is possible because of the Wright affair, the support among whites has declined sharply for Obama. And population of blacks in all these great states is less than 5%. BY JUNE CLINTON WILL HAVE 1959 DELEGATES AND OBAMA WILL HAVE 1980 DELEGATES.
There will be 372 Uncommited Super delegates at that time. . Upto this time Clinton has obtained 10 % more Super delegates than Obama. If we assume the same, CLINTON WILL WIN THE NOMINATION BY 2164 TO 2147 TOTAL DELEGATES. THERE WILL BE A DREAM TICKET WITH CLINTON ON TOP AND OBAMA AS VP AND WE WILL BEAT THE REPUBLICANS CAPTURING BOTH THE SENATE & THE HOUSE WITH VETO PROOF MAJORITIES..
THIS IS ONLY FAIR
Cuurently Clinton has 267 electoral votes and Obama has 202 electoral votes using the same method as used in the General Election . Assume that Hillary wins PA, WV, Indiana
and Obama gets SD, NC , OR , MT , Clinton will have 308 electoral votes and Obama will have 230 Electoral votes.
Even if these numbers are off a little bit, because of the momentum shown by Hillary in the remaining Primaries and electibility of OBAMA in doubt because of the Wright affair, HILLARY WILL BE NOMINATED AS THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE . GOD BLESS AMERICA NOT JUST A MILLION TIMES BUT A HUNDRED BILLION TIMES !!!!!
Posted by: larry | March 26, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am
Chris, ———————– I’m not so sure about that. Hillary has been attacking Obama left and right since he won Iowa, and he has done nothing but keep winning. The attacks are now just starting to affect Obama — and that’s only because he wasn’t really hitting back. Clinton has taken a beating too, by the media and the GOP. Now, what we have are two candidates that may get destroyed in the general because they did not have the wisdom to drop out. My sense is that nce it became clear to Clinton that she could not possibly catch uo in the delegate count, she should have done what John Edwards did in 2004, what Bill Bradley did in 2000 and drop out and endorse the winner. Not carry on with this bitter fight.
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 3:01 am 3:01 am
Boy do I hope Obama wins the nomination so I dont have to vote for McCain.
Posted by: JRG | March 26, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am
Anonymous source: If your are going to make an outlandish statement you should at least have the courage to sign your name to it. THIS is gutter politics to me, unknown people with tabloid statements. Sen Clinton is a strong, confident, and well respected representative of New York (and was a fabulous First Lady as well). A woman who has worked her entire life to make things in our country and world better. The sleazy and taudry slures show how backwards we are regarding respect for women with talent and knowledge. If anyone suggests Sen Obama is less capable because of his heritage they are immediately slapped back, but you can impugn a woman forever. Nice.
Posted by: J Ferguson | March 26, 2008, 3:10 am 3:10 am
Larry—————— your scenario is Highly improbable and is very unlikely to happen. First to addres your statement on MI and FL. NONE OF THOSE PrIMARIES WERE FAIR because none of the candidates campaigned in those states. Obama’s CNN ad was a NATIONAL AD that just happened to air in FL as a result. That was the cheapest way to do so rather than purchase in individal markets across the country. I’ll bet you any kind of money that not that many people in FL watch CNN enough to have seen the ad. If you were running for Prez and was not as well known as your opponent. You would think it was grossly unfair that you were TOLD that a STate would NOT COUNT and so you decided not to waste valuable time and money campaigning there, and then all of the sudden, they decide it will count. NOt to mention the Hundreds of thousands of people WHO DID NOT VOTE in those states because they were told that their votes would not count. The fairest thing to do is to seat the delegates from the states ONLY if seating the delegates DO NOT CHANGE the outcome of the race.
Now to your other point. Yes, Obama did take a hit for the Wright Contraversy. But all the polls indicate that His speech helped redeem himself. All he had to do was educate America on race relations and what the African American Church community was like. Most Americans understood that. He is starting to bounce back in the polls. Clinton knows that, which is why she wants to rehash this again. Your scenario is unlikely to happen so I would not Hold my breath.
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am
Give it up. Hillary just became unelectable with this Bosnia stuff. If she were to be the nominee, the McCain campaign would DESTROY her …. with one, simple TV ad. Clips of soldiers dying in Vietnam (plus McCain on the stretcher), then fade to Hillary describing the “sniper fire”, SMILING THE WHOLE TIME SHE’S SAYING IT. Sorry people…. she’s done.
Posted by: ratmach | March 26, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am
As we all know…the clintons will do anything to win, even destroy the democratic party. They don’t care about Americans, they only care about themselves.
Posted by: voter | March 26, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am
A little truth and balance from the media wouldn’t hurt. Obama lied about his pastor (“I never heard him make controversial statements”- 3 days later-”yes, of course I heard him say things that were controversial”) Obama lied about Rzeko-first it was $22k and eventually became I spoke to him sometimes several times a day and he contributed at leaast $250k to my campaigns. Obama lied about passing a bill to make nuclear companies alert the public when there is a leak- Turns out the Excelon company in Illinois contributed hundreds of thousands of $$$ to his campaign and he changed the wording in the bill- It didn’t pass but he still lied and said it did in Iowa and NH. Obama lied about a senior campaign advisor telling the Canadian government to ignore his campaign rhetoric-he didn’t really mean what he said-Turns out there is a memo. Obama lied about getting us out of Iraq within 16 months- His senior foreign advisor Samantha Powers said in an on air interview that it was only campaign rhetoric-best case scenario-and best case never works in Iraq. I’m sure there are more instances but the press has hoodwinked and bamboozled us. They also would have us believe the Clinton’s started the racist tone of this election- Unfortunately the race baiting began when Michelle told he people of Iowa that the “black folk of this country will wake up if they voted for her husband.” In Octbober Obama had a family and values tour using the homophobic gospel singer McClurkin to go to exclusively black churches in S. C. Then of course there is the 4 page memo distributed by the Obama staff- The list is long- WAKE UP AMERICA-OKAY DOKEY
I’m not against Obama because he is black. I do agree with Ms. Ferraro, he wouldn’t be in this position if he was white. I’m against him because he has no experience whatsoever. He spent his short time in the Senate campaigning. He has no record, no accomplishments, and dodged votes way too many times. I don’t like the way he stalled and nit-picked in order to squash a revote in Florida or Michigan. He did his best to disfranchise those voters who overwhelmingly voted for Hillary. You can’t believe what he says. He lied about Hillary’s Health Care Plan. He lied about his stance on Iraq, and his plans for Iraq. He’s telling us one thing and telling Canada don’t take it seriously, it’s just rhetoric. I don’t like his pastor and his hateful, racist diatribes. But, I also don’t like the way Obama lied, again. First he didn’t hear the sermons, then he did. And, I don’t like his petty actions. Putting out a photo of President Bill Clinton shaking hands with the pastor at a White House Prayer Breakfast was petty and stupid. Obama is one who spent 20 years listening to his diatribes. Obama has simply lied, or misled the voters too many times. I don’t trust him, and I feel he has poor judgement because of his closest friends and the deals he’s had with them, like Rezko and the Iraqi billionaire who gave him millions. He gives great sermons, but I’m not voting for a preacher, I’m voting for the President of the United States, Sen. Hillary Clinton. She is a uniter who has accomplished a great deal working with both sides of the aisle here and around the world. She has the experience, knowledge, maturity, and the will to bring us Peace and Prosperity again.
Posted by: mike | March 26, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am
To HillaryDefector:
Seems either you haven’t heard from a good speaker lately or don’t understand what it takes to make a good speech. But a speech is just that–words, as any writer in the AWG can attest to. Yes we can!…are just words. It’s all sizzle. Add some tear-jerking analogies, a metaphor here and there, spiced with a few allegories, and there you go–a recipe for subtle emotional manipulation. Mass communications is not a hard subject to pass in school.
Although, I can’t blame you since it is refreshing to hear eloquent words from a politician ever since the dumbing down of the presidency was popularized by our commander-in-clown –Dumbya Bush.
If results are the what the public wants the sensible choice would be Hillary (albeit though she does rub a lot of people the wrong way). You can see her style is all business and no sizzle. She’s old and it shows. How flashy can she be? (But admittedly does anyone really complain that she won’t be effective as a president? No, I don’t think so. I just think they just don’t like her personality and how she delivers her messages. That’s partly a fault of her campaign team and says something about her management of it). But a campaign is not the presidency. A president does not have to worry about likeability (Dumbya would stand proudly at this statement). All a president has to do is to fix the country’s social mood and allow the people to pursue their happiness as easily as possible (harder said than done). All other failings can be forgiven and are unimportant.
But sensibilty is NOT what the public wants. They want hope. They want change. They want…a fairytale. Obama is smart enough to have usurped these two emotionally empowering words and spun them integrally into his political garb. Peel away the layers of political positioning and rhetoric and what do you have? Quite similar if not identical aspirations between the two candidates.
So you are entitled to your opinions and you can vote for your candidate. I’m all for efficacy and I’ll take my chances with Hill & Bill because I don’t need to hear my steak sizzle. I just need it to taste good. If Bill was any indication–I like what I’m about to get.
Posted by: Doug | March 26, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am
To JRG,—————— WHY OH WHY DO you say such things? As an Obama supporter I WILL VOTE for Hillary if she is the nominee. I will NOT vote for any republican—-Even if it is McCain….Sorry. You should do the same. Let’s stop smearing fellow democrats. We all want the same things for our country!!!!
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 3:19 am 3:19 am
The real problem with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright is that he is an intellectual lightweight. He calls Hiroshima and Nagasaki war crimes that caused 9/11. This statement is absurd. Anyone who has studied the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki who is honest and not just spewing the hate America liberal revision of history will quickly see that these bombings were merciful compared to what would have happened without them. The invasion of Japan by American, British, and Russian forces would have destroyed the Japanese people and their culture. The A-Bomb attacks saved Japan massive civilian casualties that would have resulted from the invasion. They also save many American lives, including the life of my father and ultimately myself. The battle of Okinawa killed 100,000 to 300,000 Japanese civilians. The invasion of Japan would have killed millions, maybe even tens of millions. As for the statement by Smooth that American policy over the last 100 years was the cause of 9/11, that’s so moronic that it bears no intelligent response, but I will attempt one. Since 1908, the United States has been the greatest power for good in the world. U.S. forces were one of the deciding factors in World War I, saving democracy in Europe. U.S. economic, diplomatic, and military pressure, kept the Japanese from annexing China, causing Japan to attack the U.S. fleet at Pearl Harbor. U.S. economic might kept Britain and Russia supplied with weapons to stall the advance of Nazi Germany. U.S. forces helped liberate France and played a major role in the defeat of Nazi Germany. U.S. aid and military power prevented the conquest of Western Europe by Soviet forces. U.S. economic might helped rebuild conquered Germany and Japan. U.S. forces prevented the conquest of South Korea by combined North Korean, Chinese, and Soviet forces. U.S. forces liberated Kuwait from under the heel of Saddam Hussein. U.S. forces prevented the genocide of Kosovo muslims at the hands of Serbian guerillas. U.S. forces liberated Afghanistan from the theocratic dictatorship of the Taliban. U.S. forces are fighting and dying every day in Iraq, trying to bring peace to that nation. If you don’t believe that America is a force for good in the world, then you are an idiot. You don’t deserve the great gift of free speech that so many Americans have sacrificed to preserve for you. America and Americans make mistakes. But we are the great shining light of nations. We are the great hope of the world. We should never forget that. Unlike Michelle Obama, I am proud of my country every day. Unlike Barack Obama, I proudly wear the American flag and stand at attention with my hand over my heart during the national anthem. And unlike Obama’s spiritual advisor, I say God bless America. She is not perfect. She is a work in progress. But she is the greatest force for good in the world.
Posted by: shaku | March 26, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am
Doug,———————————–I can respect that. You are entitled to your opinion as well. Clinton did not rub me the wrong way. In fact, she looks very presidential as do Obama, when she’s not shooting off at the mouth and blowing her gaskets. I like Clinton because she stands up for what she believes in (most of the time). But, I chose to support Obama because he was more in tune for what America was searching for and had the smarts to see it. That is what makes a great President. One who has learned from History and one who is connected with the people that he represents. I will of course vote for Hillary if she is the nominee, because she is a good person, but I like Obama better. *shrug*
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am
I want to vote democrat but if Hillary wins the nomination, I’m voting McCain. Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush Jr, Bush Jr. Time for a freaking change. Another Clinton is not change.
Posted by: JRG | March 26, 2008, 3:32 am 3:32 am
JRG,———————– I agree that Obama is the better candidate, but even Clinton is better than McCain. Please don’t let this bitter fight take your eye off the bigger prize, which is a democrat in the WH. Certainly you can agree that Obama and Clinton have the same goals. Don’t be bitter about this… Please. I will vote for Hillary or Obama, whomever wins. I hope its Obama, but I’ll settle for Clinton.
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am
These blog responses scare me. Hilary supporters attack Obama supporters with the most intense hatred and distain for attacking her on issues and morality. Some Obama supporters answer back with quips just as vindictive and hurtful – so that we the people do the job she wants done for her. It ISN’T about a dem winning anymore, but rather setting up McCain for a win so she can run in four years.
Good grief, follow the damn truth. It’s out there. DNCC issued delegate selection rules 8/06. States had till 5/07 to submit state plans. Fl legislature, republican controlled, passed bill that allowed for paper ballots AND moved primary in violatio of both parties laws. DNCC had to react with stiff penalties due to earliness of violation and potential for mass numbers of states to follow suit. I Aug. 97 Fl was given time to devise a new plan and move primary after Feb 5th without penalty, or to keep it in Jan and be stripped of delegates. If you want to be mad, contact Fl Gov. Crist and the state legislatures. Fast forward to Nov 07. Michigan legislature dems who support Clinton submit bill to move primary to 1/15 knowing the sanctions placed on Florida. MI given same chance as Fl, revise and submit new plan for after 2/5 or suffer same consequences. With decision, no candidates were allowed to campaign in any state that violated DNC delegate selection rules. Due to this and four state accord all dem candidates with exception of Gravel indicated intention to withdraw names from MI ballot. Only Clinton did not follow through. (Kucinich did, but there was a clerical error.) Again, angry about the outcome? Contact Gov. Granholm, Deb Dingell, Levin etc.
Obama prevented revotes in the two states? What a crock!! A privately financed firehouse primary whose finaciers support only one candidate is NOT a redo – it’s a bought election. And you BET there are legal problems with that. That was not Obama saying no – it was state senators who don’t want to spend their careers fighting accurate accuasations of election fraud.
Should Dean and the DNC meet these states half way and bear the cost of redos? Probably. It’d be good for the DNC to say for the sake of party unity we need to do this, but we’re gonna have to have these two states bear some responsibility for their mistakes – the state’s legilatures NOT the states people. However, it’s time the people – All Over the Nation – get real about who was disenfranchising voters. In Fl a select few republicans, in MI a handful of top party DNC members who are in the state Leg. (This gets back to the whole idea that the real fight isn’t between Clinton and Obama, but between her co-Chair and former head of the DNC McAuliffe and current head Dean, or better yet between DNC party big wigs who represent the dem political party machine and the party progressives / grass root dems who got Dean where he is. Cause folks – that’s what the real fight is all about. Those who think they know what’s best for us not wanting to give up that power, and those who are willing to listen to us and have us get invovled in the political process.
If the political machine rolls over the progressives with Clinton at the helm, it’ll spark a revolution. People may think a Clinton rerun is possible in 2012, but it won’t be – the political roadmap won’t even look familiar!
Posted by: MommaKat | March 26, 2008, 3:42 am 3:42 am
Hillary Clinton doesn’t need to “make” Obama unacceptable – he’s already done that himself.
I really want to vote Democratic this November, but if Obama wins the nomination, I’m voting for John McCain.
Posted by: RJ | March 26, 2008, 3:43 am 3:43 am
To TinkerBell,—————— Like it or not, Obama will be the Next President of the United States. It will be a history making moment that will be forever written about in the History Books and read by your Children, and there is nothing you can do about it. But, don’t worry, when Obama proves he is not a racist by making life better for all Americans by providing Healtcare and College to all kids, you will gwt to admit how wrong you were..
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 3:44 am 3:44 am
He has won the nomination to what? To be the next Democratic Presidential candidate to lose the General Election? Trust me, that is EXACTLY what is going to happen. The Republican party is going to ‘mop the floor’ with this guy.
Without strong support from California, NY, Florida, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, he hasn’t a prayer. And, will he lose those states – Of course. He already lost them in the primary!
If he wins the nomination and doesn’t lose the GE, I will come back here and eat crow. Otherwise, I will definitely be back to gloat.
Posted by: Sharon | March 26, 2008, 3:49 am 3:49 am
Why are you Clinton supporters full of so much hate. The way I see it,the apples does’nt fall far from the tree. You do not deserve to be in any kind of leadership. Some of the thing many of you are saying is very shameful.
Posted by: tony | March 26, 2008, 3:50 am 3:50 am
Robert Candella———————–, I don’t care where you work. You said that you would burn down the White House if Obama wins the Presidential election. That is not only unpatriotic, its an act of treason (especially if you work for the Government) and an act of Terrorism.
I would have an honest debate but I refuse to debate the merits of the candidates with someone who does not care to listen and understand issues from all sides of the aisle.
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am
Sharon your arguments are ridiculous!!!! Just because Obama lost a blue state in the primaries does NOT MEAN IN ANY WAY that he will lose in the general if he is the nominee!!!! It is obsurd to think that states like New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois (which Obama won), and California will vote repiblican. Polls sow that Obama would sill carry these states if he is the nominee.
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 3:58 am 3:58 am
Kerry, ————————– English is obviously not your primary language. I say this because I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are an 8 year old, judging from the way you type.
Anyway, Go away, you obviously do not understand racial issues here in the States and how diplomacy works. your colors are showing and you bring down the good people who do support Clinton and McCain.
Posted by: KnightCaptain | March 26, 2008, 4:11 am 4:11 am
I THINK IT IS TIME TO LET CNN KNOW THAT BARAK OBAMA DID CAMPAIGN IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. IT CAME OUT ON CABLE TV AND WAS SEEN BY THOUSANDS. SINE IT WAS HE(OBAMA) THAT DID THE CAMPAIGNING, IT SEEMS HE IS TAKING THE COWARDS WAY OUT BY NOT WANTING THE VOTES TO COUNT. HIS NAME WAS ON T HE TICKET, BUT FLORIDA DID NOT WANT HIM.. HE SAYS THAT THE VOTES SHOULD COUNT BUT KNOWING THQT THEY DID NOT WANT HIM, HE HAS CHANGED HIS MIND ABOUT GETTING THE VOTES COUNTED. ONE OTHR THING HOW DID HE GET 55 MILLION DOLLARS IN FEB? WHO WAS HIS DONORS. I KNOW FOR A FACT THATTHE YOUNG PEOPLE DID NOT GIVE HIM THE MONEY EVERY DAY, SO HOW MUCH OF HIS 5 MILLION CAME FROM HIS BACKER OPREY. OR DO YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO CHECK INTO THIS ????
Posted by: KERRY | March 26, 2008, 4:21 am 4:21 am
She fought too hard, and almost destroyed the Democratic party as we knew it. In the process, she destroyed the respect people have for her.
Posted by: Sahlu | March 26, 2008, 4:24 am 4:24 am
Hillary Mispoke? LOL Well, she apparently is narcoleptic as she mispoke per CBS News coverage on Bosnia in Texas (FEB), Iowa (JAN) in addition to last week. So she also mispoke about mispeaking . . . SHE’S A LIAR who like Mitt will say what she needs to in order to fool a voter (that’s why her base is uneducated). She learned at the feet of the master but she’s no slick Willie.
Posted by: Sheeza Lyeyer | March 26, 2008, 4:31 am 4:31 am
I will not ever vote for Barack Obama. This “typical white person” will vote for war-hero John McCain.
If Obama loses in the general election, Hillary may run again McCain in 2012.
Posted by: Jim | March 26, 2008, 4:32 am 4:32 am
No Obama and No Republicans… If it’s not Hillary you should vote for Ralph Nader
Posted by: Brotha | March 26, 2008, 4:50 am 4:50 am
Vanessa….Obama has won the nomination after Texas and Ohio, only the media is fanning that Hillary Clinton has the chance..media circus for fun. Look Lewinsky will resurface again and it is nice to watch, just enjoy it.
Posted by: alexis compton | March 26, 2008, 4:51 am 4:51 am
On many different occasions Obama has said that every vote should count. He has spoken out against the disenfranchisment of voters. It is time for him to allow MILLIONS of Michigan and Florida voters to have their say about which Dem nominee goes up against McCain. Obama is more worried about losing the popular vote than he is about voters rights. He argues that super delegates need to endorse the candidate that won their states while at the same time accepts the endorsement of Kennedy, Kerry and Richardson. Guess “his” rules only matter when they benefit him. I still want Obama to tell the country what “greatness” his church sees in racist Louis Farrakhan that made them select him as their Man of the Year. Obama says he is staying with his church because they are a close knit group, therefore I have to wonder if Obama’s “honest” feelings about racist Louis Farrakhan match his churches views.
Posted by: tiredofit | March 26, 2008, 4:59 am 4:59 am
What MSNBC and Air America do not seem to realize is that atleast 1/2 of Dems back Hillary and still they promote Obama rather than report fairly. Ed Shultz on Air America radio got so upset because Hillary would not come on his show that he has been blasting her on a daily basis. Guess what Air America, you are supposed to be a radio station for ALL Dems, not just Obama and his supporters. Guess what else, Ed Shultz is making a lot of your listeners angry and you might just lose half of them if you allow Big Ed to continue abusing the power of his mike.
Something Big Ed should do is ask Obama what greatness his church of 20 years sees in racist Louis Farrakhan that made them select him as their Man of the Year.
Posted by: tiredofit | March 26, 2008, 5:18 am 5:18 am
Tell that anonymous Democrat Offical to take his blinders off. Barack Obama has been trying to destroy Hillary Clinton for over a year. He has used every dirty trick in the book. His line of attack on Hillary is directly out of the Right Wing Republican Playbook. The DNC can prop up Obama, but he will NEVER get my vote in the GE.
Posted by: KathleenVT | March 26, 2008, 5:26 am 5:26 am
Obama supporters don’t use insane words like most of you on this blog. You don’t have space for love, you all gather around ABC to satisfy your never shifting position on Obama even if you know the man is a good Man. You will want to destroy him just like Hillary is working hard to destroy him and the party. When I think of Hillary, it strangely makes me cringe that their are a dozen more out there like her, like you; who are scorned liar willing to accept lies towards achieving goals; dirty minded haters that are stereotyped. You are all typical, the world is watching and laughing at the white race for what appears to be ignorant out of context exaltations of a white mans quote in Mr. Wrights speech. That appears to be more important to white people than the love of America surviving in reality. Pride comes before the fall of a man. The world see good things in America and good things in Obama for the world and America. You all need to go to the dictionary and check again the meaning of patriotism , loyalty and hate and see where you fall in. God bless America
Posted by: Hugo | March 26, 2008, 5:33 am 5:33 am
Washington liars are legend but come on Hillary!!!!
You were not under sniper fire as you claimed in Bosnia!!!!
You actively pushed Nafta and now say you did not!!!
There are hundreds of Clinton lies now on record.
America cannot survive this sickness.
Obama is our only hope to save our land.
Posted by: rockychance | March 26, 2008, 5:35 am 5:35 am
I will be saddened if Obama give Clinton an advisor role let alone the Vice Presidency
Posted by: Kopchong | March 26, 2008, 5:41 am 5:41 am
It is funny to see American react to this election this way!
Posted by: Non-american | March 26, 2008, 5:54 am 5:54 am
“It is funny to see American react to this election this way!”
For your information it’s not funny one single bit. Everyone has been through pure hell with the current administration. 7 long years of hell which seems like an eternity. Everyone is hurting pretty badly. You have no idea what you are saying.
Posted by: Lou | March 26, 2008, 6:07 am 6:07 am
Well Lou ,you may tag my words as nonsense but mark my words America is loosing it core competence. America around the world is an embodiment of human freedom as a nation that should be worth emulating and people who lead this nation should have a sense of direction on taking America to the next level and not back wards. We live in an era where things change in minutes, America should not be left behind, we are loosing out in the world, our soldiers are dying everyday , our dollar is crumpling and someone has a reality check on this issues and nobody is willing to see it because he is not fully a white blood. Common people , this is very unbecoming. Rogue states are stepping up economically and tighten their grip on us with oil and you want to keep war mongers and selfish lobbyist longer in Washington? Obama is offering a renewable energy source as to the first check on these countries that has nib us on the bud! America deserves your patriotism now than ever. Clinton need to step aside let people begin to see who best is fit for the job and so forth. Obama is a good man and I am white and will encourage folks to vote for him. Stop this nonsense support for destruction, be progressive minded.
Posted by: Hugo | March 26, 2008, 6:09 am 6:09 am
LOU: You called bluff what a non American is saying, that is how the world sees us now, they are laughing at us ,our pride and stupidity. We are focussing on non issues and not seeing things clearly anymore. McCain may win because you all and the media has ruined Dem Party and that is the party that hoped to bring about change on how business is running in Washington- crying- Now we are beginning to see good things in a government that ruined the image of our country for 8 years, why? The world must know this, we are still reasonable people and most of us are not ignorant. We know the truth and the media cannot change that. Good bye
Posted by: Hugo | March 26, 2008, 6:20 am 6:20 am
This should be no surprise to anyone. These are the Clintons. They have proven over the last 2 decades they will do and say anything to achieve their goals. And screw the Democratic Party and everybody else if they can’t. The Democratic Party has to realize they have already lost the Presidental election. What they need to be concerned with is that the majority of voters do not hit the “Vote All Republican” button in November. This has gone well beyond satisfying the Clintons’ ego. I think Democratic leaders are starting to realize the entire Party is about to be dumped.
Posted by: Mike | March 26, 2008, 6:20 am 6:20 am
Clinton does not need to step aside. For what? Must be since you all are whining so much, for her to quit. Stop whining. You are afraid she’ll win. After all she has all the blue states. What in the hell is anyone going to do with Red state wins??? That’s life. That’s what the elections are based on. The big blue states. She won them. ‘Been that way forever. So no stepping aside for a teensy red state winner..naaa… And besides. That energy policy was swiped from Clinton. Or has your memory failed you of when she was talking about that very same policy and he had no policy yet on anything what-so-ever??? Get a clue. It’s not his policy to enact. He stoled it from the Clintons. He knows it. Now you need to know it. In fact, that is what the palgiarism thing is really about, except they didn’t want to go there knowing it would cause a big stink. My how the kool aid has ruined the mind.
‘nough said. That’s the truth. No need to respond to the truth. It’s been stuck in your nose and you still won’t see it..’night.
Posted by: Lou | March 26, 2008, 6:21 am 6:21 am
Obama will say and do anything to win including lie, Jive talk, plagiarize, blame, whine, justify, pretend he won as nominee since Iowa. Obama will say and do anything to win including threaten delegates. Obama will say and do anything to win including saying that Hillary will say and do anything to win. Obama will say and do anything to win including blaming everything he is guilty of on Hillary..now stop with that..it’s old and worn out and he will say and do anything to win…get a new line now will ya..it’s getting old and it inaccurate and YOU KNOW IT>
Posted by: Lou | March 26, 2008, 6:28 am 6:28 am
Since I don’t like H., I don’t like defending her. However, this is a contest; not an election.
H. has the right to try to win without being smeared as a “Tonya Harding”.
Remember 1980? Anyone smearing Ted Kennedy for fighting Jimmy Carter? No?
So why has the discourse decended to vulgar name calling? Ratings hype?
Posted by: Cboy | March 26, 2008, 6:29 am 6:29 am
“Now we are beginning to see good things in a government that ruined the image of our country for 8 years, why? ”
It’s called Bush aka Chimpy McFlightsuit and if you people don’t stop peddling your foolishness and get honest we will get 8 more years of that with McCain. Now stop it people.
Posted by: Lou | March 26, 2008, 6:35 am 6:35 am
And where are her tax returns??
Posted by: Britten | March 26, 2008, 6:36 am 6:36 am
FROM: AOL (HOT SEAT)
Who will create more jobs?
Clinton 31%
Mc Cain 28%
Obama 25%
Hillary first again and Obama behind Hillary and Mc Cain. Again.
Another reason Hillary will be president.
Posted by: starbuck1979 | March 26, 2008, 6:37 am 6:37 am
Through her entire history she has demonstrated that she is a ruthless liar willing to destroy anyone or anything that gets in her way. She has a personal track record of failure and tries to take creit for the accomplishments of others.
Posted by: tekrab | March 26, 2008, 6:38 am 6:38 am
Their is no such thing as a policy that is originally anybodies, I thank God that Obama at least has drawn more people to the polls, that is an achievement; stopped the growing American Dynasty of two families hoping to be in the white house for up 28 years , that is an achievement. You cannot discredit a passionate man, never! Obama is passionate about this country and that is why he is willing to tell you blunt truth at all times and not misspoke. When he spoke well Clintons clinched on plagiarism to discredit him ,at other times they dug up rubbish to make him look bad, would you not agree that your candidate has continuously lied to you and you don’t mind as long as it is not Obama. Shame what our good virtues has become.
LOU I suggest we just stop fighting and stop hurting our egos over candidates? Can we? Let us learn to understand each others pain beyond candidate, however let us be broad minded enough to understand that if Hillary wins the nomination that I will still vote for her even if most people who support Hillary will not do same for Obama.
Posted by: Hugo | March 26, 2008, 6:39 am 6:39 am
Where is Obamas real tax returns???
Posted by: starbuck1979 | March 26, 2008, 6:41 am 6:41 am
Stop the madness. When this latest story breaks about Obamas connection to terrorists that will do what the Jeremiah Wright scandal did not do. It will sink Obamas chances !! People that have cheered him on haven’t done much research on him and the media has not portrayed the truth until recently. . They will after this story breaks and PENNSYLVANIANS will shun him in record numbers. Hillary does not have to be Tonya Harding -and for your information Tonya was never convicted of the wack on the knee of that prima donna Nancy Kerrigan !!!
Posted by: jimbo | March 26, 2008, 6:42 am 6:42 am
A new story is about to break regarding Obama. I understand this one is HUGE. I think it is either his stock scandal or the ties to terrorist. Can’t wait!!
Posted by: Carl | March 26, 2008, 6:45 am 6:45 am
” And YES, the media bias is quite obvious to everyone. ”
Media Bias my butt… You SHEEP! Read & WEEP!
Clinton is a part of their spin machine!
You will vote for who they tell you to… namely McCain.
Posted by: neveragain | March 26, 2008, 6:46 am 6:46 am
fast forward to the future…..Hillary is now the president of the same old USA…..at a 3 am telephone conversation with the Russian President….. stand down or else i will nuke you she said… the Russian President get hyper and he launch the nuke to USA… the Carville her new NSA adviser said why did you threatened him… clinton gthe hillarious said…owww i misspoke it. it only proves that i am human and for some people its a revelation..wow!!!!!!!! what a 3 am phone call.
Posted by: alexis compton | March 26, 2008, 6:47 am 6:47 am
Hillary’s got club in hand and ready to go for the knees.
Posted by: ken | March 26, 2008, 6:57 am 6:57 am
l just spoke with a Democratic Party official, who asked for anonymity so as to speak candidly, who said we in the media are all missing the point of this Democratic fight.
Hillary is going to win the election and nothing Obama can do or say is going to change that.
Posted by: YOU CANT FOOL ME | March 26, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am
We are going to have to vote for him HUGO if he is the nominee. Hillary is asking us to. But he won’t win.
But you said.. “I thank God that Obama at least has drawn more people to the polls, that is an achievement; stopped the growing American Dynasty of two families hoping to be in the white house for up 28 years , that is an achievement.”
You see, I keep reading the same old misconceptions over and over day after day until I just have to speak up. Now, I’m sure it never occured to you that perhaps people came out in record numbers to elect America’s very first woman president>>>Hmmmm never occured to yous. The people who are not ready for a woman president came out in droves to vote against her as well as to vote for her. It’s not about Obama…it’s all about Hillary. But she is a democrat. She is NOT Bush and his gang so everyone get a grip. geez. Plus what’s so bad about peace and prosperity which only she can provide?? She won’t bite you I promise. Go listen to her speak and you will not turn back. If all you have to go on is rumor about Hillary, like the “dynasty theory” and all, then you have jipped yourself..
Anyone who will not vote for Hillary is a sexist. ANYONE.
Posted by: Lou | March 26, 2008, 7:12 am 7:12 am
fast forward to the future….Hillary is now the President of the same old USA…..on one of her episode at 3 am, she said to the Russian President, stand down or else i will nuke you!!!..the Rus Pres. hurriedly launch the first nuke, the US radars picked it up immediately and her new NSA chief AKA JUDAS Carville asks her, why, what did you said to the Rus Pres??? owww i mis spoke the nuke thing!!!!!!!wow what a 3 am telephone call
Posted by: alexis compton | March 26, 2008, 7:16 am 7:16 am
ABC, and the rest of the media, should be ashamed of themselves. If you include the Florida and Michigan delegates the candidates Obama is only about 16 delegates ahead. After PA, he’ll be behind. Believe me this is a card that the Clintons will play when the time comes to convince the super delegates. She’s better off if they don’t have a re-vote.
The press is making me crazy with the unfair reporting. Obama has charisma but no substance. He has ties to racists and terrorists and MUST lose the primary. If the press would investigate him further, I’m sure there’d be enough there to force him to resign from the Senate.
Posted by: Foes | March 26, 2008, 7:20 am 7:20 am
that is a big lie.she lie not once twice but several times.i respect Clinton but cant stand her lying.if she lie because she deprived of sleep how much can she handle at the white house?How much lies will she tell at the white house.Let be honest if it was Obama she will speaking loud and clear against him.i dont want to believe she will lie on day one and be commader in chief in lies.please drop out.
Posted by: krist | March 26, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am
That’s what politicians do.They lie to get elected. At least she is not in bed with all these thugs like Obama..and she’ll be a good leader..so she fibbed…Obama lies about serious stuff..very serious stuff..all the time. Not just a little story. He has created sins of omission..
Posted by: Lou | March 26, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am
If this Democratic Party official says that Hillary would have to use the ‘Tonya Harding Option’ to win the nomination then this official and Hillary must know something about Barack that hasn’t yet made the news. If there is something so bad that it would cause his supporters to pail it must be pretty serious. Voters need to know everything about the candidates now, not during the general election.
Posted by: Blu | March 26, 2008, 7:31 am 7:31 am
HRC is a lier. Watching the video of her speech she was smiling and laughing knowing it was a lie and people were eating it up. Now the question is she telling the truth about NAFTA? Like the holloywood people said 8 months ago she lies with such ease. Misspeaking is done that day or the next day not a week later. Wonder what the people in Ohio think now? She will do anything to win and doesn’t care about the party, or anyone else as long as she gets what she wants.
Posted by: rebelva | March 26, 2008, 7:44 am 7:44 am
I agree what does this “Democratic official” know about Obama that the rest of us should know.
If Hillary brings this out to win she has done the democrats a favour.
Certainly the Republicans won’t hesitate.
Amercians need to know more about Mr Obama’s past and his associations before the nomination.
Ask this guy what he knows next time you have a little chat with him Jake.
Posted by: s.b. | March 26, 2008, 7:45 am 7:45 am
DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE HILLARY CARE ABOUT US ALL SHE CARED ABOUT BEING THE FIRST WOMAN TO BE PRESIDENT. FACE IT THAT THE TRUTH AND THAT WHAT SHE TALK ABOUT ALOT MAKING INTO HISTORY.
Posted by: SHIRLEY | March 26, 2008, 7:46 am 7:46 am
If Hillary knows stuff so bad that it would make Obama unacceptable, I think she would have used it at this point. And I know that if she knows something, the Republicans likely know it too. They are probably saving dirt on both candidates – waiting for one to win. And I’m sure it will come from the talk radio hosts as McCain has sworn to run a clean campaign. So I don’t think there is anything the Democratic Party can do at this point. If there is a Tanya Harding club out there, it will get used – its just a matter of when.
Posted by: Mark | March 26, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am
ABC, and the rest of the media, are so biased it’s making be crazy. They obviously are trying to push Obama through.
If you include FL and MI, they are only 16 delegates apart. After PA, she’ll be in the lead. This will be the card that the Clintons will play with the super delegates to win the nomination.
Posted by: JB | March 26, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am
Both factions of the the Democratic party have to stop slamming each other.
Hillary and Obama are at fault. While they’re tearing apart each other, John McCain is touring the world already acting as if he won the presidency. What is the matter with these two?
Posted by: Kathy | March 26, 2008, 7:48 am 7:48 am
If you include Florida and Michigan they are dead even at 1688 delegates each.
The last time two states were sanctioned and the rules committee moved to keep them sanctioned in 1894, thanks to Ms Pelosi, the floor voted to seat them.
Florida and Michigan will be included and seated as is.
The delegate count is 1688 to 1688.
Take it to the floor Hill!
Posted by: s.b. | March 26, 2008, 7:48 am 7:48 am
If you include Florida and Michigan they are dead even at 1688 delegates each.
The last time two states were sanctioned and the rules committee moved to keep them sanctioned in 1984, thanks to Ms Pelosi, the floor voted to seat them.
Florida and Michigan will be included and seated as is.
The delegate count is 1688 to 1688.
Take it to the floor Hill!
Posted by: s.b. | March 26, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am
Actually, I think James Carville is more the thug type. He’d be a better Jeff Gilooly. Although I have a feeling that Michelle could swing a mean club herself. Great analogy though.
Posted by: JENNY | March 26, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am
I know the delegate math favors BO at this time. But, it is possible for this thing to end up virtually tied. So this person is saying that HC has to do a Tonya Harding number?
On the surface this sounds ludicrous. We are already seeing a fractured party – as much the BO campaign’s fault as anything the HC campaign has done. But, apparently some factions of the Democratic part don’t want folks to recognize that the BO side can be vicious too. Its easier, and seemingly better, to use that brush on HC, since evryone know’s she would be the only one to do or say anyhting….
Of course, if this does end up virtually tied, particularly without counting FL and MI, that means that BO would have lost his “momentum.” It would be hard to argue that you are the best candidate if you no longer have the “MO.”
Is that what this person is afraid of?
Posted by: Al | March 26, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am
“The question is not whether a connection can be established between Barack Obama and a former member of the Weathermen, but whether it has any significance for the 2008 presidential campaign.”
That’s from the Washington Post one of the most pro Obama news media.
Democrats need to address Mr obama’s ties to far left radical groups.
The Repbulicans took a decorated war veteran and made him into a loser in the last general, what are they going to do to a guy with ties to The Nation of Islam, The Weatherman, The New BLack PAnther PArty and Rev Wright??
Not to mention the most Liberal voting record in the senate and a wife that hasnt been proud of America for 25 years.
He should be knee capped by Hillary. The MSM hasnt done its job, bu the republicans will.
And they will win.
Posted by: s.b. | March 26, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am
Selfish hillary, no way Girl!!!how can i believe her again,just playing with our intelligence.
Posted by: Adams | March 26, 2008, 8:02 am 8:02 am
If MI and FL can do what they want now, the DNC will be hell in 4 years. Let them vote in the Nov election and learn from their mistakes. If the voters don’t like it, they can vote out their own state reps who got them into this mess in the first place!
As for Hillary, I thought carpet bagging went out after Lincoln freed the slaves.
Posted by: David | March 26, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am
The question is not whether a connection can be established between Barack Obama and a former member of the Weathermen, but whether it has any significance for the 2008 presidential campaign.
Washington Post
Posted by: s.b. | March 26, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am
Shame on Hillary! She stole the “I misspoke” line from Barack. He used it after he claimed his parents meet and fell in love because of the tumult of Selma (4 years after he was born) and after the claim that 10,000 people died in a Kansas tornado (the death toll was only 12). There’s also his claims about the nuclear legislation he passed and the ‘no lobbyist in my Whitehouse’ claim and trying to take credit away from Dodd and Frank for the legislative proposals they made to help homeowners …
Posted by: Blu | March 26, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am
With Michigan and Florida, which must be seated or the general election is over now,
The delegate count is 1688 to 1688
Dead even.
The Clinton camp needs to start using these numbers. They are the numbers that will be seated at convention now that obama has blocked revotes.\
1688 Clinton
1688 Obama
Posted by: s.b. | March 26, 2008, 8:09 am 8:09 am
To my fellow Republicans: It is time to get out of the gutter. Look at what Hillary has brought down on herself through her tactics in this campaign. She is even disgusting to her own supporters. McCain is a candidate of principle and so is Barack Obama. It is time to put the old politics of smear and jeer to bed. I am so sick of the James Carvilles and Rush Limbaughs of our country. Lets start acting like Americans again instead of fruitcakes!
Posted by: Bill | March 26, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am
Ah yes, the anonymous source, always so reliable and never an ax to grind. Don’t bother me with the inside scoop of someone who wont stand up.
Posted by: Ann | March 26, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
Hail hillary,why would she want to want destroy our party just for her selfish gain? What a lying couple the clintons are,always lying to us.
Posted by: Adams | March 26, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
We (Americans) are not as stupid as you think. Tonya Harding???? How long has Karl Rove been on your payroll?
Obama – Wright?, Rezko?, Terrorists?, Farrakan?,Michelle(US not her country),Oprah (millions to Africa – is she American or what? – what about a girls’ school in West Virginia?)
I want the TRUTH about Obama. The media raced to embrace his flowery speeches ONLY to realize that they had backed a racist, anti-American opportunist. Now they don’t want to look foolish so they keep burying his dirt and attacking Senator Clinton.
Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Oregon, Indiana and all the others will show you what American now thinks of the
“After Wright” Obama………
Nobody has to MAKE him unacceptable – he IS unacceptable.
B
Posted by: Belvie Douglas | March 26, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am
When Ted K. came out so strong for Obama I commented that, when the time was right, Ted would explain to Obama that he should be VP on Clinton’s ticket as he is young & could follow up with his own presid. later as she doesn’t have 8 yrs. to wait.
However, I suspect a revision is due–neither Obama or Clinton should be the Dem. nominee, if the party doesn’t want to give the election to the GOP.
SO, the DNP needs a different candidate, prehaps Senator Bill Nelson of Fla.–please not Howard Dean–he would be the worst choice! Colin Powell would be great–just have to get a party redo–of course that is difficult for the DNP.
Any better choices out there?
Respectfully,
Billy Bob, Florida, where votes don’t count unlike Chi-town where even the dead have votes counted.
Posted by: BillyBob | March 26, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am
RobertCandela: And if you actually knew it, Chamberlain’s decision at Munich was met with almost universal support at home with very opponents out in the wilderness–most importantly Churchill and Eden.
Alternatively, an argument is made by historians that Chamberlain knew the deal wouldn’t last but was hoping to buy time for an upgrade to the Royal Air Force as well as the continued building of naval forces and that Chamberlain was only looking to buy time.
In any event, Chamberlain/Munich are irrelevant. They are about dealing with a madman at the head of an industrialized nation. It has nothing to do with a US presidential election.
**And not related to that, I noticed ‘Jim’ was back last night. I wish there was a way people could realize that that’s someone else.
Posted by: Jim | March 26, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am
Is this article considered “news?” An unnamed source with unknown access to the Clinton campaign. And it’s full of not what she plans to do but ifs. Well I have one too. IF an unnamed news channel stuck to actual facts then it would actually add to the national discussion and IF they felt like running this type of story then they should start a gossip channel/website and not consider it news. And I will end by saying that I am voting for Barack Obama and I’m hoping everyone will check their fanatacism at the door or we are going to find ourselves with another 4 years of Republican misery.
Posted by: TSnow27604 | March 26, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am
Hillary is Horrible…..
‘nuf said!
Posted by: Mrs. Tiggywinkle | March 26, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am
I can’t believe hillary,neither would i believe Douglas.
Posted by: Adams | March 26, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am
It’s very clear from most of these posts that many white Americans still have deep seated racism and lack the humilty to be the beacon of light for the world going into the 21st and 22nd century.
Thank God for the white Americans that are wise and loving enough to stand for justice,equality, and liberty for ALL Americans.
So many of you hold up such a high standard of righteousness but what were / are you doing to bridge the gap created by white Americans by inflicting terrorism, brutality, rape, and other ungodly crimes against African Americans? We don’t want your handout, we just demand equality and justice.
No, many of you did not commit these crimes against humanity but you sure are comfortable with the benefits you are receiving.
Barack is not a perfect man neither are any of you. If America blow this chance to have someone with Barack’s extraordinary abilities, for shameful so called president like we have today, then we all will deserve the hell that we and our future kids will endure. All of this because a significant number of white Americans will allow hate and fear control the destiny of America.
Many of the same hateful things were said and done to Martin Luther King Jr. but now he is American hero.
America, choose love and peace instead of hate and war. Your immediate future depends on it!
Posted by: DTruth | March 26, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am
JSN–so what exactly is Hillary’s experience again that let’s her claim that mantle?
…given the classical references to the evil of Obama’s campaign, I’m surprised no one has had the guts to make a reference to Othello/Iago
Posted by: jim | March 26, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am
The Clintons have shown over and over again that they are consummate liars. What an embarrassment they are proving to be once again. A promise of 200,000 new jobs for NY; now blamed on Al Gore? Still insists she was against NAFTA from the beginning? How gullible can you Clinton supporters be??
Posted by: CelticOdyssey | March 26, 2008, 8:22 am 8:22 am
Hey Linda. It’s a blog, an editorial, NOT a news story. Get it?
Posted by: CelticOdyssey | March 26, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am
No wonder Obama is going to be president,studies have found he is a distance cousin to five former us presidents and one vice president, while hillary is one to madona the singer,……….I suggest hillary try country music,I promise i will buy her cd.
Posted by: Adams | March 26, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am
All the rich media companies want Republicans back. They do not want to pay higher taxes and will do anything to put mud on the democrats.
Posted by: GS | March 26, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am
A truly wonderful American story is unfolding, a black man, son of a single mother, of mixed heritage, from an under-privileged family, rising to become the President. As a white university professor, I, along with my children and grandchildren, am honored and privileged to be part of this great history in the making. Now, will America rise to the occasion and embrace this great change and truly unite, showing the world that ONLY in America this can happen, and that it really is the land of the free? Or, will those whose better judgement is clouded by petty prejudices and misconceptions continue the divisive tradition of ‘Us’ and ‘Them’, propagated by those politicians who firmly believe in their politics of divide and rule?
Posted by: Michael | March 26, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am
It’s very clear from most of these posts that many white Americans still have deep seated racism and lack the humilty to be the beacon of light for the world going into the 21st and 22nd century.
Thank God for the white Americans that are wise and loving enough to stand for justice,equality, and liberty for ALL Americans.
So many of you hold up such a high standard of righteousness but what were / are you doing to bridge the gap created by white Americans by inflicting terrorism, brutality, rape, and other ungodly crimes against African Americans? We don’t want your handout, we just demand equality and justice.
No, many of you did not commit these crimes against humanity but you sure are comfortable with the benefits you are receiving.
Barack is not a perfect man neither are any of you. If America blow this chance to have someone with Barack’s extraordinary abilities, for a shameful so called president like we have today, then we all will deserve the hell that we and our future kids will endure. All of this because a significant number of white Americans will allow hate and fear control the destiny of America.
Many of the same hateful things were said and done to Martin Luther King Jr. but now he is American hero.
America, choose love and peace instead of hate and war. Your immediate future depends on it!
Posted by: DTruth | March 26, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am
Of course this is the Clintons’ plan. It’s the only way they can win. And the Democratic Party better hold her responsible for this as well as NY voters booting her out of Washington for good when she’s up for re-election.
This has been talked about quite a bit. Or if she’s not able to still steal the election, she beats up Obama so bad that he doesn’t win the general and then she gets to run again in 2012.
She wants power at all costs and I hope and pray the media carries this story more as well as all Superdelegates becoming very outspoken over what she’s trying to do. She’s been given a free pass on why she’s even still in this race.
Now there’s a survey out that 28% of her supporters will vote for McCain if she’s not the nominee and the percentage is much lower for Obama supporters. This only goes to show how divisive this woman really is and how Obama is the true unifier.
I don’t think she realizes that if she keeps this up this could be the end of her and her husband’s political careers. People are really angry over what she’s done and she will do anything (and I mean anything) to get this nomination.
Posted by: JW | March 26, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am
JSN….Let me hear a few sentences on what experience Hillary has.If being a First Lady makes you capable to run this country then why didn’t Jackie Kennedy, Nancy Reagan or Betty Ford run> No, they knew they weren’t capable. If Hillary says she has experience then she should be running on what she did in the senate, which is almost nothing.
Posted by: cindy | March 26, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am
What is really sad about this whole campaign is you all might be right. Hillaryu may pull of her nomination by her Tonya Harding rules, but who are the loosers? We are because the Reps will surely dig up all the trash that the Clintons have in their closets and McCain will win. We will stay in the war and taxes will keep going up. Be careful what you wish…The truth about Hillary will come out. The Bosnia incident was only the tip…
Posted by: cindy | March 26, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am
McCain looks dumb for my vote,he is a veteran ok, thats all,hillary is just like a street fighter,she ends up fighting everybody from the media,friends(richarson)her campaign staffs to the members of her own party,even 43% of americans say nothing will make them vote for her. what a sore loser she is.
Posted by: Adams | March 26, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am
Hey D Truth,
I have spent my life standing up for equality, freedom, and those of minority status. And frankly, I didn’t feel so appreciated by Rev Wright’s speeches, to hear him tell it, people like me don’t exist, and all white people are racist bigots. All of us are to be mistrusted, and all of us punished for the sins of our grandfathers’ great grandfathers’. Well, that’s just a bunch of crap.
See, that’s the trouble. If Barak Obama believed in the love, unity and acceptance he preaches, then why in the world would he put Pastor Hate on his campaign team? Formally? It’s one thing to listen to the speeches for 20 years and expose your kids to it (bad enough, if you value “judgement”), quite another to “endorse” it by putting the guy in your STAFF. And why would he profess that firing Don Imus was the right thing to do, taking it further “I would not tolerate racist slurs against any ethnic group in my campaign”. Really? While he was calling for Don Imus’s head, Jeremiah White was enjoying a position of status on his campaign team. The sermons were a matter of record at the time… Humm, seems like Mr. Obama got caught in a blatant lie or at best, painful hypocracy. That, or white people are not worthy of “ethnic status”. Either way, it SUCKS.
Posted by: An Opinion | March 26, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am
The Gov. Of MO. is the wife of a politician,. And a chief Obama supporter.
The Idea a candidate’s spouse is inexperienced MUST NOT bother the Obama camp. Obama meanwhile has been chairman of a committee that for 1 and 1/2 years has never met. Zero experience there.
So it’s down to who loves America the best. And Rev. Wright’s flock seems deficient on that account.
Posted by: REDpup | March 26, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
As a feminist, I deeply resent it when other women tell me that ‘because’ we are women, we should support Hillary Clinton. Feminism is really about taking charge of one’s own life and making intelligent, responsible choices. Obama ’08.
Posted by: CelticOdyssey | March 26, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
The problem with Obama is that his speeches are the farthest thing from his actually voting record. People wonder why he stayed with that hate filled church for so long. It’s easy just read his books. He is a black man who is insecure with his identity and looked up to the hate charged emotion that Wright provided him. To a much lesser degree that is why some people listen to Rush L. every day. They want someone who will fill their insecurities.
Posted by: jim | March 26, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am
She is really a monster,use every options wether good or bad.
Posted by: james | March 26, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am
CelticOdyssey, I wish the same held true for African American voters. Unfortunately 92% support Obama. Either African Americans are just inherently smarter than Anglo Americans or they are voting for Obama because of his skin color, not his character.
Posted by: Blu | March 26, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
An Opinion said:”I have spent my life standing up for equality, freedom, and those of minority status. And frankly, I didn’t feel so appreciated by Rev Wright’s speeches, to hear him tell it, people like me don’t exist, and all white people are racist bigots. All of us are to be mistrusted, and all of us punished for the sins of our grandfathers’ great grandfathers’. Well, that’s just a bunch of crap.” ———— It still doesn’t excuse Rev. Wright, but what you fail to appreciate is that it hasn’t been easy being black in America, even recently, and yes, even now.
Posted by: CelticOdyssey | March 26, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
Jim, Quite right. If we can’t expect the president to have the “judgement” to choose his associates and campaign staffers more carefully (Wright was a formal campaign staffer) then can we expect judgement on other issues? And if this loyalty to Wright is supposed to be seen as endearing.. it seems to me the last time we had a president that was loyal to poisonous people it resulting in disaster (Bush II). There was one before that with similar tendencies and results (Carter). You know, disaster doesn’t just come with candidates that has a “R” beside their name. Sheesh people, we need a president who is tough, an independant thinker, and for god’s sake, has some credentials. Use your heads!
Posted by: An Opinion | March 26, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
This is the stupidest thing I have ever read. Who is this so-called party official? Hillary is the one who wanted a united party. If anyone is going to try the Tony Harding option, it would be Obama. He has used the race-card, the religion card, the hoodwink card, the no-vote card…The Democrats party can go ahead and nominate Obama while disenfranchising millions of Democrats. In the end you will get a charlatan and hypocritical candidate.
Between a war hero and the guy who listens to racist, America-hating words for 20 years, I hope America doesn’t lower its value and choose the latter.
Posted by: Emily | March 26, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
I support Hillary going to whatever lengths she has to stop that pathological LIAR (BO) winning the nomination!
GO HILLARY!
Posted by: Muzza | March 26, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am
What kind of a comment is that! Sounds like something that came out of the mouth of either Teddy Bear Kennedy of John “Lurch” Kerry….thus the Kerrigan reference…Anonymous my foot….
What a vicious race this is turning out to be….Where is John McCain..
Posted by: Jane | March 26, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am
Blu, fair enough, but it is after all the race-baiting by the Clintons and their staff that has lost them the black support. Until recently more than half were supporting Hillary. Again, in my opinion, the best sign that African Americans are finally making some real progress is that they no longer blindly vote Democrat or for the Clintons.
Posted by: CelticOdyssey | March 26, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am
What in the world has happened to ABC? Where is your integrity?
You run stories like this and ignore the failings of the fatally flawed candidate Obama. You should be looking at the misleading ads he is running in PA which claim he doesn’t take money from special interests. Bundled money is still special interest money and the Wall St lawyers and oil company representatives are as DEEP into Obama’s campaign as they have been in anybody’s.
I used to depend on ABC for fair and truthful reporting.
Shame on ABC for getting cought up in the media fraud that foisted Obama on an unsuspecting electorate!
Do some objective investigative reporting and get off the Obama bandwagon.
Step away from the Kool-Aid!
Posted by: Melissa Whitener | March 26, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am
Hey A Opinion,
I understand your points and they are valid. However many people (non-black) misunderstand Wright’s sermon. He was speaking out against a system of hatred, abuse, and unequal treat of Blacks in America. If you came up on the other side of the street and lived through the brutality, you would speak out against it too. Please don’t defend a System of this nature. Blacks help create America, so we have every write to be critical when the system in America is broken. Some may not want us here but we are here to stay and America is just as much ours as it is yours. We have earned through blood shed, sweat, and tears.
Pastor Wright was speaking hate toward a System, not and individual or an entire group of people.
I would agree that it was a bit extreme and sometimes preachers go to the extreme to make a point.
All of that said, Barack is not accountable for every word that everyone has said that’s on his team. If we held everyone to the SAME standard, neither camp would have people in them for we all have said or done something that we would not be proud of if it was made public. Some of us have done worse things than others.
I guess the bottom line is, choose Barack base on his character and abilities not based on a close friend considered family. That’s key. Barack considers Wright extended family. Blacks understands and values extended families. Every family has flaws and jewels. Barack is a jewel in my opinion.
Posted by: DTruth | March 26, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am
Obama is crippling his own campaign. He should drop out – Hillary is the only one who can beat McCain.
Posted by: Shelley | March 26, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am
CO- I know it’s not easy to be black, but it’s not easy to be a woman either, and it’s not easy for white men who are born into poverty, it’s not easy for anyone born without a strong family, it’s not easy for latinos facing discrimination (the worst of all groups in the past few years). Life is not easy for anyone. While I have always been a supporter of common sense affirmative action measures to benefit all minorities, I am sick of being told my life is a cakewalk because I am white. I have worked my WHOLE LIFE for everything I have. I’ve never been given a THING for free. I’ve had to sacrific, make good decisions, live below my means, and value myself enough to take responsiblity for my own situation. Have I faced discrimination, of course. I’ve been called “honey” at work, I’ve been GRABBED at work, I’ve been passed over for promotions while it went to a MAN who worked half as hard as me. But you know what, at the end of the day, I am only responsible for my own behavior, and my own life. Does that mean any of us should tolerate unfair discrimination and bigotry? God no. That’s why we have laws, and we have a legal system designed to protect us. We have advocacy groups (AA’s have some of the best). If you aren’t happy with your life DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, quit blaming other people for all the ills of your situation.
Posted by: An Opinion | March 26, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am
If you include Florida and Michigan, Obama only has a 15 delegate lead. After PA, he’ll be behind.
That’s the card taht the Clintons will play to win the super delegates and the nomination.
Posted by: JB | March 26, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
Hillary don’t be a Ralph Nader, bow out gracefully.
Posted by: Elen | March 26, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
Dear Hillary Supporter,
If you can’t trust Hill now, when can you trust her? Tell your daughter the truth that Hill lied and trust your daughter to know right from wrong.
Posted by: John T | March 26, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
Comment sounds like something that came out of the mouth of either Teddy Kennedy or John “Lurch” Kennedy…thus the Nancy Kerrigan reference…Anonymous my foot!
Posted by: Nancy | March 26, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
Does America want a fighter or a whiner for President??
Take to the floor Hill!
Posted by: s.b. | March 26, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am
DTruth, nicely stated. Thanks!
Posted by: CelticOdyssey | March 26, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am
There’s the anti-Jim!! I knew he’d be around.
I love reading stuff like Hillary is the uniter–Hillary only wants unity for herself. She expected the nomination and budgeted to be done by Super Tuesday, only to find out that Americans want change, they want an end to fighting.
It’s amusing to see the “Republicans will eat Obama alive” arguments–on what? The same sort of issues that McCain faces? Because Obama has run a campaign that avoids slinging mud, NONE of the stuff that can hit Clinton has come out. If she is the nominee, everything going on now will look like a 3rd grade pool party–because the Republicans will not show restraint against her (nor should they). But with Obama, they will–partially because of fear of charges of racism, but partially because Obama and McCain have both staked ground as men who can work across the aisle–a dirty campaign dispels that.
It is time for the ‘Me Generation’ to be removed from control one way or the other. It is sad that the ‘Greatest Generation’ could spawn such a group of spoiled brats and their senses of entitlement.
Posted by: jim | March 26, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am
Hillary Supporter- the answer is in the question??
Posted by: CelticOdyssey | March 26, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
If I have to hear one more time how Obama came from an underprivileged background as the child of a single parent, I’m going to scream. This myth is usually followed by a plaintive wail to elect this man because he alone has some mythical power to unite us all into a glorious Feelgood Oneness. God help us.
Posted by: HoosierSue | March 26, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
Hillary Supporter- if Hillary wins the nomination, expect to have many more of these conversations with your daughter…….:-(
Posted by: CelticOdyssey | March 26, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
CelticOdyssey, The so called race-baiting that the Obama people and the media jumped on was Bill Clinton’s statement, “Dr King’s dream began to be realised when President Lyndon Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It took a president to get it done.”
No one bothered to explain that Martin Luther King, Jr himself said, “Direct action is not a substitute for work in the courts and the halls of government. Bringing about passage of a new and broad law by a city council, state legislature, or the Congress, or pleading cases before the courts of the land, does not eliminate the necessity for bringing about the mass dramatization of injustice in front of a city hall.
Indeed, direct action and legal action complement one another. When skillfully employed, each becomes more effective.”
What Bill said was accurate. If it doesn’t take a president to bring about change then why is Obama running for the office. Obama should have defended the statement instead of insinuating that the Clinton’s are racist. The media should have reported accurately instead of insinuating that the Clinton’s are racist.
Posted by: Blu | March 26, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am
D Truth, you have a right to your opinion, and certainly, we should all make an effort to have reverance for our country’s tragic past with regard to black people, native american people, immigrants, women, many groups who have been treated like second class citizens and exploited over our short history. There is nothing wrong with remembering, studying, etc.
The problem with people like Wright is that he CONTINUES the divide, rather than working to heal it. Wallowing in the past won’t get us to racial equality, or even racial understanding. In order to move forward, we are going to have to start trusting each other. And that means, letting the past be the past, never forgetting it, but forgiving it. That is what Jesus would do, that is what we are going to have to do too. If we keep promoting the victimhood of the past, we won’t ever be able to concentrate on the future.
Let me ask you this, if the situation was reversed, and Hillary was known to go to a church slamming black people, wouldn’t you be crying for her to step down? Be Honest, now. Wouldn’t every advocacy group be making loud noise on it? And rightly so, I might add? So why is it that we are supposed to “accept” racism from a black church, but “condem” it from a white church? If we are TRULY committed to eradicating racism, we must be honest enough to call it out REGARDLESS of the source. Otherwise, we are hypocrits.
And by the way, I did grow up on the “other side of the tracks”. My family was relatively poor, I had many black friends growing up who were my peers economically speaking. You know, economics, not color, is the real divider in society (but I digress). My childhood is one reason why I consider myself a pretty progressive person on the subject. Rev Wright hurt my feelings, in a way.. as if, all white people are evil demons out to get black people. You can see why this would offend someone like me.. who honestly believed myself to be a champion for equality.
Posted by: An Opinion | March 26, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am
A truly wonderful American story is unfolding, a black man, son of a single mother, of mixed heritage, from an under-privileged family, rising to become the President. As a white university professor, I, along with my children and grandchildren, am honored and privileged to be part of this great history in the making. Now, will America rise to the occasion and embrace this great change and truly unite, showing the world that ONLY in America this can happen, and that it really is the land of the free? Or, will those whose better judgement is clouded by petty prejudices and misconceptions continue the divisive tradition of ‘Us’ and ‘Them’, propagated by those politicians who firmly believe in their politics of divide and rule?
Posted by: Michael | March 26, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am
At this point, it wouldn’t surprise me to find out Hillary has hired Karl Rove to head her campaign. She is campaigning like a republican. As an independent, I could NEVER support her after this. Obama in ’08!
Posted by: Kathleen | March 26, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
HoosierSue–did you feel the same way 16 years ago hearing about “A Man from Hope” and hearing about how horrible Bill Clinton had it as a child?
Blu–it IS about context and without it, the words of King are misunderstood–and that holds true, too for the words of Rev. Wright. Even Gov. Huckabee has spoken out against the detractors of Wright. Without context–it is easy to jump to conclusions.
Posted by: jim | March 26, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am
Jim: I agree with your every word. Even though I am a democrat I love Rush. He tells it the way it is and it is always the truth. Obama is running for the presidency to make history for himself. Obama is for himself and always will be. People should wake up to the fact that he has to be racial to go to that church but he is good at hiding it. This generation should wake up to reality and face the facts that his pep talk is a fake. His speeches are all copied from former president’s and MLK. His last speech was created by a woman. When he talks about race in this country he should clean out his own backyard and take a good look at his own pastor who is a racist and was out of control in that video.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 26, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
Michael: it’s obvious the only true criterion you are using, typical of most eggheads who deal in theory and not the real world, to elect the next president is his color. Do you even care that he is going to impose socialist-style big government on ALL American citizens, the cost of which will trickle down to the middle class(I know YOU personally don’t care because no doubt you’d benefit and are probably tenured)
Posted by: Hawk | March 26, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am
If Hillary can’t get the facts straight on her trip to Bosnia then how can anyone trust her judgement at all?!!!On top of her not getting the facts correct she had her daughter saying the same incorrect info about the trip!
Hey, Sinbad may be a comedian but he knows when he is being shot at or if they had to run for cover after getting off the plane! I think the news footage shows what really took place and Hillary just wants to make herself look good!
Why destroy another person charactor just to win an election? There again isn’t that the Clinton’s way of getting what they want? She wants to get back into the White House at all cost..!
I feel she needs to bow out now, so we can be proud of the Democratic Presidenital Candidate who can run against McCain!
We do not need this type of politics going on, when the USA is looked down upon by many many of our Allies.
Gov. Richardson knows Obama is the right person as the Presidential Democratic Candidate or else he would not hav egiven his support to him.At least Obama will bring a new perspective to the White House and not the same old way of doing business!The last eight years have been “BAD” under the present adminstration!!! So wake up people and see Hillary for who she actually is!!!
Obama all the way!
Posted by: Lowcountrygirl08 | March 26, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am
Blu, your reasoned opinion is noted, but you only mention one quote and ignore the rest. I consider several of Bill Clinton’s comments racist when you add them all together. It’s the entire tenor of Hillary’s campaign. Add to the mix the statements by top aides that “We won’t bring up Obama’s drug use, but the Republicans certainly will,” Hillary’s comment that Obama is not qualified for the presidency but might be qualified to be her vice president, and Geraqldine Ferraro’s recent statements.
Posted by: CelticOdyssey | March 26, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am
Thank you for this TRUTHFUL saying. It’s no secret that folks that go against the Clinton’s have a special similarity of disappearing.
Nor should we have a President too stupid to realize she can’t lie to us when her whole life is recorded! She called Sinbad a liar last week during her rendition of her trip to Bosnia, then the “sniper event” came out on video and showed how truly frightening that was. Ha! Calling Sinbad a liar in order to tell her own self-puffing lie!!
Posted by: Jason | March 26, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am
It is wonderful for our country that a woman and a black man from a poor background can both rise to become credible candidates for national office. It’s just a shame that their politics are so wrong. If and when they are defeated, we ought to look at it as a positive thing — our country is mature enough to make its decision based upon the candidates’ politics, not their gender or skin color. I admire Hillary and I am inspired by Obama, but no way am I voting for either one of them. John McCain is the best candidate in this race.
Posted by: Red | March 26, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
In addition to my recent comment, I should add that from scanning the other comments below it is clear an ugly smear campaign — one of the type the pro-Israeli lobby has used for decades to destroy those who dare tell the truth about Israel — has already started in earnest against Obama. It is a smear campaign of the same type, but even greater intensity, than the ugly smear campaign against President Carter after his excellent book “Peace Not Apatheid” dared to point out some of Israel’s cruel discrimination against Palestinians.
Read the smears against Obama below on this list and you will see the true ugliness Israel and its supporters coming out of the dark.
Posted by: APatriot | March 26, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
s.b.
Your right. If the heads of the DEM party think they can screw over Hillary and us supporters they are insane. And they would be stealing the election from millions upon millions of us.
And the DEMS would pay for it in November.
And that is not smart. A new poll just came out showing that only 20% of Obama supporters wouldn’t support Hillary in the general while 30% of Hillary supporters wouldn’t support Obama. The DNC needs to back Hillary in order to win in November. Wake up DNC!
Posted by: starbuck1979 | March 26, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
Stop bashing Hillary. If the mainstream media had vetted Barack Obama during the early part of the campaign, Hillary would have clinched the nomination on Super Tuesday.
ABC News and Brian Ross should be commended for showing us there are two Barack Obamas. One Barack Obama gives an eloquent prepared speech. The other Barack Obama chooses a demagogue, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, to be his spiritual advisor and mentor for 20 years. The other Barack Obama exposes his daughters to anti-American and anti-white preaching.
Barack Obama, no free pass. Not this time.
Posted by: ConcernedCitizen731 | March 26, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
How in the heck is Hillary any different than Obama? For god sakes, he led everyone to believe that he was this saint who was going to reunite and take us all away from old politics. This to me, sounds like a hypocrate! I would much more believe Hillary’s military experience than Obama’s pothetic racist comments and his ability to hide the truth about his religious and his political support. No matter which way you look at it, Hillary and McCain have much more experience to run this country then Obama. Im pretty sure if Obama rights a book on Wrights inspiration, he will have him help run this country.
Posted by: Terry Frakes | March 26, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am
If Hillary can’t win, she is going to take Obama and the Democratic Party down with her. Do we really want another President who “miss-speaks” in order to manipulate the American citizens? Her character is so flawed that she has no right to be “casting stones”.
Posted by: Frankie Hodge | March 26, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
This all makes me so sad. When this campaigning started (was it just last year? it seems like a lifetime)I watched all candidates and listened closely. I was open to both Hillary and Obama, but ultimately voted for Obama very happily. I pray he wins the white house. The anger I feel whenever I see or hear Mrs. Clinton is enormous. She and Bill are liars, carpetbaggers, henchmen willing to stop at nothing for their own personal rewards. I pity chelsea and I will pity America if she’s elected. She’ll do ANYTHING to get back into the white house. It is amazing to me that Barack, a person who was not supposed to “stop” her from her entitlement presidency, is doing exactly that. Her latest lies are just preposterous. Does she think no one will check out these tall tales? What is WRONG with her that she could lie so easily? It’s pathological and that ain’t good.
Posted by: magikpowerwoman | March 26, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
First of all Tonya Harding is more talented than Nancy Kerrigan. Nancy Kerrigan would haven never won the Olympics anyway, Oksana was WAY better and deserved to win. Nancy Kerrigan had the best performance of her life and still can only finish second. If this comparison is correct, the right order would be:
McCain, Clinton, Obama.
Posted by: MQ | March 26, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
Matthew: It’s one thing to ‘fight hard’ but another to fight dirty. Clinton fights dirty and has lost ALL my respect. I won’t even bother with your link since I’m sure it’s more rhetoric out of the Clinton campaign. She is destroying any chance of a democrat becoming president.
Posted by: makemyday2day | March 26, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
Either this is a fabricated article or Ms. Clinton needs to check on her staff. Considering the treatment of Ms. Clinton in the media, I assume the former. Why don’t you report on the issues such as HEALTHCARE, ECONOMY, ENERGY and EDUCATION. All of her plans are far better and more detailed than Mr. Obama’s, however no one in the media wants to talk about these issues. The media is handing this election to the Republicans.
Posted by: stephanie | March 26, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
The DNC this year is just lousy overall. Everybody should have worked to keep Edwards in it. Although I do beleive is dropping out was more for personal reasons, he looked like the best candidate from either side. The three candidates from both major parties are all weak. And Mrs. Clinton has a proven track record of being a liar and criminal. I particularly care for either of the other two, but making her President is a sure way to screw the country even more.
Posted by: Maverick | March 26, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
Red: Obama did not come from a poor background. He was raised by his typical white grandmother for ten years and went to good schools. His mother taught him a lot of what he knows today. She had him read about all about MLK and the struggles he went thru to get where the black people are today. You should read more of his background and how he was on drugs and booze while in college. He wasn’t the innocent person that you think he was. You have to read more about his family and his growing up. I read his BIO in the New York Times several weeks ago. It is some story.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 26, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
CelticOdyssey, You’ll have to give me examples of the other purported race-baiting comments that Bill made for me to respond. As for Obama being qualified for the vice Presidency, I don’t agree with Hillary on that issue. Obama is not qualified to be in public office.
What Geraldine Ferraro said may not have been politically correct but it was very accurate. Sen Obama is where he is partly because of the color of his skin. Ferraro left the campaign staff after the statement because Hillary is doing her darnedest to keep on the issues and not get sidetracked with race and gender debates.
Both candidates have present and past staff members that made statements that the candidates wouldn’t make themselves.
Posted by: Blu | March 26, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
Bickering is what children do – as adults we ought to be looking at what each candidate stands for and how he or she behaves. I have always had great admiration for Hillary Clinton, but it looks now as if she is letting her husband direct her campaign so we are getting half truths – whether it is snipers in Bosnia, the Peace agreement in Northern Ireland, or her before and after remarks about the Florida and Michigan primaries. (Remember when she said the candidates should ignore the results in those states?) We have had two presidents who did not value honesty or trust the American people enough to tell us the truth. Let’s hope the press does its job and finds out just who does tell the truth and who does stand for what. We have been led astray too many times in the past. It is time for us to wake up.
Posted by: Wise Old Lady | March 26, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am
DTruth: I agree with you totally.
All of this Rev. Wright stuff is just the Clintons way of destroying everything in sight, even the Democratic Party process to get elected. The Clintons don’t like progress they are part of the old south “good ole boy system”. The American people are falling for this.
If the American people think by nominating Hillary Clinton and she becomes President, that somehow this will return American to the Clinton years i.e. economically, think again.
Obama is all about bring people together not tearing them apart.
Posted by: Lookup | March 26, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
I make comments and use my own name. How can you reporters continue to report from anomynous sources? Thats journalism? Its pathetic. BTW, where is the report from Bosnia’s president at time of Hillary Clinton’s visit that there WERE snipers all along the hillsides surrounding the airport and that they were all scared about the visit and how they could protect the visiting dignitaries.
Posted by: glennmcgahee | March 26, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
HOW MANY MORE LIES, OR “MIS-SPOKE” INCCIDENTS, SHOULD COME TO LIGHT BEFORE PEOPLE BEGIN TO WAKE UP FROM THEIR STUPORE AND REALIZE THAT SHE WOULD DO ANYTHING, INCLUDING TEARING APART THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND POLARIZING OUR PEOPLE, TO GET HERSELF ELECTED (BY THE WAY, THIS IS NOT ABOUT HER MIXING UP THE EVENTS. SHE NEVER FACED SNIPER FIRE, PERIOD. HOWEVER, SHE BROUGHT IT UP SEVERAL TIMES. IF THAT IS NOT A LIE, THEN, I DON’T KNOW WHAT IS). SHE RATIFIED NAFTA AND NEVER MENTIONED IT WHILE CAMPAIGNING IN OHIO. SHE HAS REFUSED TO RELEASE SOME DOCUMENTS WHICH COULD QUESTION HER CLAIMS REGARDING HER”EXPERIENCE”. SHE SUPPORTED THE INVASION OF IRAQ. SHE HARDLY MENTIONS ANYTHING ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE, WHICH, BY THE WAY, AFFECTS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. SHE LIES ABOUT HER ”EXPERIENCE”. SHE SIMPLY PLAYS THE FEAR AND THE ECONOMY GAME, BECAUSE SHE KINOWS THAT ONCE THE FOOD ON THE TABLE BEGINS TO SHRINK, SOME PEOPLE FAIL TO SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE. IT IS NOT THE MEDIA THAT DISTORT THE FACTS, RATHER, IT IS THE DIRE SHORTAGE OF TRUTH IN HILARY CLINTON’ STATMENTS WHICH SHOULD BE EXAMINED. Hilary, There’s a saying: Never let your memories be greater than your dreams. When you’re running for president.The White House needs no more of the politics of the same ol’ same ol’, the governance of those anachronistic politicians, with their divisive policy of fear and deception.As a white university professor, I, along with my children and grandchildren, am honored and privileged to be part of this great history in the making. Now, will America rise to the occasion and embrace this great change and truly unite, showing the world that ONLY in America this can happen, and that it really is the land of the free? Or, will those whose better judgement is clouded by petty prejudices and misconceptions continue the divisive tradition of ‘Us’ and ‘Them’, propagated by those politicians who firmly believe in their politics of divide and rule?
Posted by: John | March 26, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Taper: People complain about Clinton negative tactics. I hardly find her tactics negative at all-just matter of factly stating what is obvious. Same people say that Obama is a party unifier, that his politics rises above Washinton politics. Yeah, right. Is that why Obama and his supporters are now claiming that Sen. Clinton could be pulling a Tonya Harding tactic. This is an egregious comparison. The media is to blame for the rise of Obama and the cult that ensued. I am as passionate to have Sen. Clinton as the Democratic Presidential Candidate. Please focus on experience, candidate’s love of the people. The media create the divisiveness.
Posted by: Meg Lengson Kingsley | March 26, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am
I don’t think Hiliary needs to quit I Believe FLORIDA & MICHIGAN NEEDS to be counted, then we will have a TRUE NOMINATION which is Clinton!!!! They media is so much TOUGHER on her than Obama, I only hope he will back Clinton when she gets the Nomination!!!! But we all know he will not.
Posted by: Maria | March 26, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am
The anonymous Dem source is obviously a strong supporter of Sen. Obama who is cowardly smearing Sen. Clinton to try to get her out of the race. That most likely, male source, due to the sexist overtones, is trying to blame Clinton for his own poor judgment in supporting a candidate with little experience who was untested and unvetted. Now that Obama’s running into trouble for his own words and actions, I guess the word is to try to scapegoat Hillary. He should blame himself, Obama and the Kennedys and Kerrys and their ilk who always guide the Dems to presidential defeat.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | March 26, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
Wise old lady: You are right. Problem is’ the candidates are bickering and all we are doing is responding to it.
Posted by: Jim Rod | March 26, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
Jim Rod
What a mean remark about Chelsa who had nothing at all to do with her fathers affair? She was child when that happened. If you think Obama is going to gain votes by going after Bill and Hillarys daughter you have lost your mind. Shame on you.
Posted by: starbuck1979 | March 26, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am
When Hillary Clinton decides to put the Democratic party first, and herself second, the Democrats will surely “take their country back” as the slogan reads.
Hillary instead wants to take the
“Tanya Harding” approach and “break her opponent’s back” to win the nomination.
The Republican candidates, for the most part pulled out because they didn’t want to “further split the party”. McCain has the nomination locked up and an almost unified Republican party behind him.
The election of 2008 would have been a golden opportunity for the Democrats given the Iraq war and the economy. Hillary, AND Obama, however, put themselves first, and their party second, thereby flushing that golden opportunity completely down the toilet.
Posted by: marco123 | March 26, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
DTruth: I agree with you totally.
All of this Rev. Wright stuff is just the Clintons way of destroying everything in sight, even the Democratic Party process to get elected. The Clintons don’t like progress they are part of the old south “good ole boy system”. The American people are falling for this.
If the American people think by nominating Hillary Clinton and she becomes President, that somehow this will return American to the Clinton years i.e. economically, think again.
Obama is all about bringing people together not tearing them apart
Posted by: Lookup | March 26, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
Yeah Marianne, it is it is called free speech. Have you ever seen CBN and Pat Roberson, heard the Late Jerry Falwell speak, listened to any broadcaster on Fox News, heard Ann Coulter speak. Nothing they are saying is any worse than what this preacher said.. Get over yourself and off your high horse. Jenny
Posted by: JENNY | March 26, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
Won’t matter, her true colors are exposed and America isn’t buying it…..they are not comfortable with both Clintons in the White House again. The harding stategy is what America unfortunatley expects and it will backfire….
Posted by: Tom | March 26, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
How is Ms. Clinton still in the game considering all the bad press she receives? Seriously? How is she even keeping up in the polls? It must be all the stump speeches she gives that outline her plan to help this country. Even the WSJ commented that she is the only candidate who has a plan to fix the economy.
CLINTON/OBAMA 2008/2012
Posted by: stephanie | March 26, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
Whether one likes Hillary Clinton or not, I think this is taking things a tad too far. Who is the cowardly Dem official who wants to remain “nameless”? Another turncoat I imagine. My opinion of the whole mess the Dem campaign has turned out to be is that it is just what the Repubs have prayed for. A split in the Dem party makes them tremendously happy and Dems like the one stabbing H. Clinton in the back in this article is made to order. The media is helping to ruin the Dems also. I, on the other hand, see the Bush administration as a complete and utter failure and damaging to the U. S. making my opinion that any Dem would be better than what we have now. I’m afraid McCain would be more of the same GWB administration. God forbid we go through that again anytime soon.
Posted by: Ron | March 26, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
Anything Hillary does within the party rules is fair game. By the time all of Obama’s dirty laundry is aired there may be lots delegates with buyers remorse. People who voted for Hillary know all about her history. Many who voted for Obama before Rev Wright would not vote for him now. There is a lot of things that haven’t been fair. The media fawning over Obama with favorable press while using every opportunity to discount Hillary. The caucus system that has kept Hillary supporters (elderly & working people) from participating. I am sick of the Obama camp whining about Hilly not giving up so Obama can just have the nomination. If Obama wants to win this thing he is going to have to fight for it! Is he tough enough? Is he afraid of a woman? Maybe he doesn’t have the stuff to be President!
Posted by: Firefighter | March 26, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
So sad, the Dems are giving this election away to the Republicans. Time is running out. After Pennsylvania the Dems better get their act together or it is pretty much over. The Republicans already have a hugh start over them. There will be no first black or first women in the White House if this keeps up. The Dems are giving up an easy race for president, because the majority of the people really don’t want McCain.
Posted by: Rhino | March 26, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Jenny: Jerry Falwell is a preacher of the gospel, Wright is a preacher of anti-america and hating whites. Get a grip on life. There is a difference between the preachers. Where have you been? Falwell was not anti-american whereas Wright is. And Obama attending that church for twenty years knew that and didn’t remove himself from it. Since you think its right then why don’t you attend that church and become a member.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 26, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
Ron, you should not be suprised that university professors would support Obama since most of them are America haters too and just love to hear rhetoric like “pastor” Wright spews.
Posted by: Rob | March 26, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
I am once again amazed at the stupidty of the American public. It’s not Hillary’s fault that Obama can’t take the political heat. Donna???, on GMA this morning, sounded like a mommy saying “don’t pick on my boy”. Yes, the press has been harder on Hillary than Obama. No, I don’t feel that it’s fair. Yes, I think that the American public should know all about both, good or bad. No body felt sorry for John Kerry or any other past presidential hopeful, when dirt flew. What makes Obama so special??
Posted by: Karen Flamard | March 26, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
If Obama wins this just because MI and FL didn’t get counted, it will be a stolen election and it will tear the dems apart. That is why the DNC wants Hillary to quit, so they don’t have to face the embarrassment and hypocrisy (after 2000) of not having “every vote counted”. If Obama is willing to take the nomination under those circumstances, then he is no better than George W.
If the tables were turned and it was discovered that Hillary’s mentor and spiritual advisor of 20 years was anti-black, anti-Israel, and anti-American, she would be out of this race.
SAYING that Hillary has run a negative campaign and Obama hasn’t, doesn’t make it so. Look look look at the facts, people.
Why can’t the kool-aid drinkers sober up for just a minute and open their eyes??? This cult of Obama scares me.
Posted by: Callie | March 26, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Isn’t it curious that the remaining uncommitted/undecided super delegates haven’t stepped forward and endorsed one candidate or another? Don’t they know enough about each candidate now? If they endorsed now then the race would probably end for candidate or the other. Why are they waiting? Poltical reasons/favors maybe? Maybe they are waiting for all of the voters in the remaining primaries to cast their votes because the race is still undecided.
Posted by: JD, Pittsburgh, PA | March 26, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Jenny: No I don’t have arrogance but you are as dumb as they come. I would like to hear what response to Cardinal George’s sermon if he preached the same words as Wright or the pastor at Moody Bible Church. Get a grip. I stick to my story. Yes, there is freedom of speech but when your preaching anti-america and white hating that then that should not be allowed. If he doesn’t like this country he should pack his duds and get out. Let him to to Kenya. He would fit in the crowd.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 26, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
I wish I could see in Obama what some of you see. I see a canidate with very ittle experience, few accomplishments in the senate, when asked about bad decisions calls it boneheaded and when pinned down, answers its not whats important and sees the president’s job as one who over sees with others making decisions and doing the work. It amazes me how blindly he is followed to the point where you can actually justify to yourselves that having a mentor friend and advisor for over twenty years with such racist and hateful views is okay. I hope this all works out for you.
Posted by: Mary in Tampa | March 26, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
MArianne, Jerry Falwell was as close as I ever want to get to seeing the Anti Christ. Everytime I ever heard him speak, he was spewing hatred. That man claimed to be a preacher but he was just a bigot with a pulpit. It is preachers like hime that turned many off to God and religion. He never said a loving word it was all hate and fear. God loves each and everyopne of us. We are his children and he will never stop loving us no matter what we do tho him. Falwell never said anything like that I can gaurentee.
Posted by: JENNY | March 26, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
If they don’t revote in Michigan and Florida it will no doubt result in a republican win in november. Also if Obama is so great and bringing the country together how is it that he cannot even bring his own party together
Posted by: Rob | March 26, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
On CNN they are reporting that Hillary is not trying to steel pledged delegates, “More Clinton hints that pledged delegates are up for grabs
Posted: 09:40 AM ET” This race will never be over.
Posted by: goodwins | March 26, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
calif: You are so right. Hillary doesn’t have to break his back to win the nomination. Howard Dean chairman of the DNC is the one who is holding up the delegates from MI and FL because he endorsed Obama and doesn’t want Hillary to get access to those delegates. He should be thrown out. I never did like him from the beginning and Nancy Pelosi is another one.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 26, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
calif: You are so right. Hillary doesn’t have to break his back to win the nomination. Howard Dean chairman of the DNC is the one who is holding up the delegates from MI and FL because he endorsed Obama and doesn’t want Hillary to get access to those delegates. He should be thrown out. I never did like him from the beginning and Nancy Pelosi is another one.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 26, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
this is juts so amusing after all the commenst calling republicans the party of hate and racists and worse, we see WHO is REALLY the party of hate and racism democrats, you have lots the lection already and just cant see it, if hillary does not pull out and presses on to denver there will be trouble, if obama doesnt step down and presses on to denver there will be trouble, and guess what neither is stepping down so THERE will be trouible in denver and I cant wait to watch you dems tear each other to pieces much more so than your doing now as you will be face to face with wioth your own party enemies. THANK YOU DEMS FOR THE MOST ENTERTAINING ELECTION YEAR IN MEMORY.
Posted by: Mr American | March 26, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Go, Operation Chaos. This is sweeter than honey on a graham cracker to watch!
Posted by: david | March 26, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
OOps misspoke: On CNN they are reporting that Hillary is NOW trying to steel pledged delegates, “More Clinton hints that pledged delegates are up for grabs
Posted: 09:40 AM ET” This race will never be over.
Posted by: goodwins | March 26, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
Lynn: I agree with you 100%. Who would go to that church for 20 years if you are not anti-american yourself? Obama is a sheep in wolves clothing and the voters in the states he won are too dumb to see that. I wonder what their thinking now about his pastor and anti-american, white hating sermon. They probably wished they didn’t vote for him.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 26, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
As long as ABC is playing w/pics, I say, go whole hog and include Obama in a skating outfit!
Posted by: luke | March 26, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Lynn: I agree with you 100%. Who would go to that church for 20 years if you are not anti-american yourself? Obama is a sheep in wolves clothing and the voters in the states he won are too dumb to see that. I wonder what their thinking now about his pastor and anti-american, white hating sermon. They probably wished they didn’t vote for him.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 26, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
Regarding Texas and Ohio:
First off, Obama won Texas. He got more delegates and more popular votes.
I just read an article claiming that 9% of the demoratic vote in Ohio consisted of ‘one day only’ voters. These were crossover voters who voted for Hilary to keep her in the game and prolong this race. Thanks Rush Limbaigh.. you deserve prison time for conspiracy to commit voter fraud. Slime ball.
Do we really want to vote for who the republicans want to run against? What does that tell you about Hilary’s chances?
I’ll say this.. I’m an Obama supporter BUT if he does not win the nomination I’ll gladly vote for Hilary. No way in hell would I ever vote for McCain.
Posted by: common sense | March 26, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Hillary has shown through her own actions that she has no integrity and will LIE about anything to help herself!
Her lies:
NAFTA
Ireland
Bosnia
Macedonia
Oil Tax bill
Lied about who Obama has on his foreign policy staff to Jewish organizations to scare them…
The list goes on and on!!!
Posted by: Krissy | March 26, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
“oil company representatives are as DEEP into Obama’s campaign.”
What are you talking about? Obama voted to INCREASE taxes to big oil companies. It looks like you have been buying Hillary’s lies. She actually voted against the bill, so she was supporting the oil companies. The bill decreased their taxes in some areas, but increased oil company taxes overall.
Yet another example of how Hillary manipulates the truth and lies to voters.
Posted by: krissy | March 26, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Marianne, Marianne… I don’t know where you get off calling people here stupid – especially when you have your facts so mixed up. Out of the seven or eight posts of yours that I’ve read on this page alone, wow! Obama has close ties with Farrakhan and Ayers? His pastor has awarded Farrakhan once and Obama has met with Ayers once. You call those close ties? In that case, the Clintons have close ties with Rezko and Rev. Wright, since they’ve met in person before.
Get over yourself.
Posted by: Rory | March 26, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Jake tells it like it is.
Posted by: Cathy | March 26, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Hillary knows she can’t win. She is after something more (Demo Chairperson?). She is using this primary as her bargining chip ( eithier give it to me, or I will bleed the DemoPrty at all cost).
As for Rev. Wright comments – all those things he said were said by whites from another broadcast days before he echoed them in church. It’s not secrect that the US has bullied other countries in the past.
White preferrential treatment is strongly in todays society, just listento us on this board.
I honestly think the Rev got a little to passionate in his sermon and could have worded it a little different that would not have sounded to harsh.
I’m not offended and you all should not be also. I work and socialize with people of all races daily and very much enjoy it and rather have it that way.
Posted by: LoveEveryone | March 26, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Nonsense. Hillary Clinton will run the table in the next primaries and the super delegates will see that only she can beat McCain.
I am from Illinois. Obama will destroy himself with his exaggerations and bullying. Every time he tries to pick on Hillary Clinton, he just brings up more about himself. Of course he wants this over. That’s why he is against letting MI or FL vote. That’s why he’s spreading the word that Hillary should get out — Don’t listen. Let’s finish voting then decide.
Posted by: Feminist123 | March 26, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Hey, Hillary!
Thanks for all your hard work on my behalf. C’mon over for lunch sometime.
Your friend,
President McCain
Posted by: DemsDeBreaks | March 26, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
DNC official:
Do you want the Democratic Party to lose in November by pushing Obama? Looks like you, Obama, Dean, Reid and Pelosi believe ya’ll speak for all Democrats. So much for what the Democratic Party leadership thinks of its constituency.
Posted by: Walrus | March 26, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
I never thought I’d say this, but maybe Al Gore does need to step in and be the candidate, running with neither Obama nor Clinton, but someone neutral and above the fray (Edwards? Biden?). This sniping is getting toxic.
Al Gore could beat McCain. Many people, both Obama and Clinton supporters, AND dare I say lots of Independents and even some Republicans, think he was robbed of the Presidency, and deserves it. Maybe our country’s karma just won’t be right until that happens :) Just think how different the past 8 years would have been if the man who SHOULD have been President, HAD been. Can we all agree on that???
Can we agree on anything???
Posted by: Callie | March 26, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Rev. Wright’s controversial comments equal less than 1% of his total sermons. Many others patrons of the church say those comments were NOT typical.
Hillary lies about her experience are much more disturbing to me. She has exagerated her role in 3 of the 5 items she said make her “ready on day one”.
Clinton has placed her desire to president above the good of the party. She has given McCain ammunition for the genearl election. Clinton will say anything, do anything win. I admire ambition, but not when you have sacrifice intergrity to achieve your goals.
Posted by: Stacey | March 26, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Better yet, have Al run with a black woman. Stephanie Tubbs Jones (I love her).
Fantasizing here…
Posted by: Callie | March 26, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Stacey, Where did you get that “less than 1%” figure? Did you listen to all his sermons and hear him praise America and call for his congregation to “love thy neighbor” the other 99% of the time?
Posted by: Blu | March 26, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Well, I want to know just which democratic party official would be so divisive as to say something stupid like this. Seems to me that the national might be doing their own version of Tanya Harding.
Posted by: mary | March 26, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
“Better the Devil you know than the one you don’t.” This seems to be the underlying tone of the vehement Hillary supporters. Blame the media. It’s so unfair how they bash Hillary. When the race began, she was the “natural” candidate. All that experience! All those accomplishments! But when the nation turned away from her, choosing not to have another Clinton turn the White House into a soap opera, she turned from the “Natural” to the “Victim”. If she could have somehow overtaken Obama by some comfortable margin, I’m sure she would have gone back again. Give me a president that offers some stability, a measure of maturity. Talk to me about what matters to me. I don’t care who goes to what church as long as the results allow me to stop worrying about healthcare, the economy, gas prices and my mortgage!
Posted by: Jay In Dallas | March 26, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
I think the media should release the name of who said it. It is not fair to report this and then say anonymous.
They are politicians, they should be held accountable.
If it is someone from where i live, i want to vote against them – we have the right to KNOW.
Posted by: fballfn | March 26, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
Dear Surbuban Mom/Hilary Supporter:
You did the right thing in explaining the best you could to your daughter. I too am a professional Mom with a 9 year old son; and I would not have done a better job of explaining it to him. My humble opinion; Hilary’s tall tale only hurts herself and has nothing to do with your relationship with your daughter; thus, no need to feel terrible about it. We must learn to leave people to be judge by their God and not one else. We are none of us perfect; but chose to put others imperfection under the microscope so that we feel good about ourselves. Your daughters take their guadiance from you and not from a public figure. You sound like a good parent. Let’s also not forget: “Judge not that ye be not judged: and “let he who has not sin, cast the first stone”.
Posted by: cjtd | March 26, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
Oh, dear Lord, BO has already rendered himself unelectable. Hillary just has to get out of the way as his campaign does its spectacular crash and burn!!
Posted by: Alex | March 26, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Mmmm…So if it’s okay to accuse Hillary Clinton of pursuing the “Tonya Harding” option – and for ABC to publish an article about it – let’s be fair and accuse Obama of pursuing the “OJ Simpson” option. Yes, just like OJ lied to the world, Obama is also willing to lie to the world and cheat his way to the nomination.
Where is the fairness in the media coverage of the Clinton/Obama battle? I am so incensed by the DOUBLE STANDARD. This constant and shameful crucifying of Hillary Clinton is beyond disgusting. And then Obama, who has behaved so appallingly throughout this entire campaign, is given a free pass. His campaign is rotten and negative to the CORE and it’s about time the MEDIA started calling it as it is!
I say GO FOR IT Hillary – do whatever you have to ensure your opponent does not get the nomination. He would be an absolute DISASTER for the Democratic party given his horrendously unethical associations and his reliance on racism, sexism, ageism, dishonesty and deception in order to seduce votes from unthinking members of the public! He must be stopped and Hillary is the one to do it!
Posted by: Muzza | March 26, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Dean should resign, he is useless idiot.
Gang of losers Kerry, Dean, Bradley, Kennedy had joined hands to appoint unelectable Obama so that they can show their stupidity to world.
Shame on you Mr. Dean and new member in your club Judas Richardson
Posted by: Harry | March 26, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
I just saw a picture of Hillary with Richard Mellon Scaife.I have a Hillary sweatshirt for sale. How could anyone want power so much, that she is willing to forget the horrible things he did to her family. That picture was just too much for me to take.
Obama sees his pastor as a family member. Hillary uses her family for her own selfish gains. Who would make a better leader in this fragmented world.
Posted by: marie pickert | March 26, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
BO’s people are really FUNNY, WRIGHT’s RETIREMENT—that’s a crock, They took him out of the COUNTRY—to HIDE HIM,
how’s that for deceitful and underhanded,
What does he have to HIDE??
Now that’s a REAL STORY—–the author of this article needs a REAL LIFE and something better to do>
Posted by: sam | March 26, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Was this a portly anonymous Dem official? If only we had that descriptor, we could zero it in to Bill opportunist Richardson.
Posted by: AF | March 26, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
What Tanya Harding tactics is this “anonymous source” referring to? Not fighting fair? What about refusing to seat the Michigan and Florida delegates and refusing to let millions of people’s votes count? Sounds pretty Tanya Harding-ish to me.
Posted by: Anya | March 26, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Where did you see this picture of Hillary with Scaife?
Posted by: Blu | March 26, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
OPERATION KAOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: john | March 26, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Your source is quite right: Threatening to destroy Obama is exactly what I have observed the Clintons doing.
Posted by: Mister Snitch | March 26, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Mister Snitch, if by “threatening to destroy Obama” you mean revealing his flaws and exposing his associates and pointing out his poor judgment and demanding answers to questions that matter then I wish Hillary Clinton would speak up. She is being way to easy on the guy.
Posted by: Blu | March 26, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Tonya Harding sez “that’s an outrageous and insulting statement!” “I would NEVER stoop to the tactics of the Clintons!” (Bill takes out pipe and kneecaps Samantha Powers)
Posted by: Robin Dicken | March 26, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Mariann Pepitone says: “Jerry Falwell is a preacher of the gospel, Wright is a preacher of anti-america and hating”.
Sorry, but you are WRONG WRONG WRONG. Falwell gave a sermon after 9/11 BLAMING AMERICA for the attack against us. Just like Wright did! BOTH said we deserved it: Falwell said we deserved it because of the sin of toleration of gays and atheists and secularists. Wright said we deserved it because of the sins of slavery and racism.
The fact that you look at one (Wright) and see obvious America-hatred, while you look at the other (Falwell) and see Patriotic scripture-preaching PROVES, as far as I am concerned that you are a Republican hack who is only shilling for Hillary on this list because you know that she will lose against the Republican candidate.
We’re on to you, Mariann.
Posted by: ddesertdavey | March 26, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Here’s what Hillary said about the Wright controversy, “He would not have been my pastor, you don’t choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend.”…
“You know, I spoke out against Don Imus (who was fired from his radio and television shows after making racially insensitive remarks), saying that hate speech was unacceptable in any setting, and I believe that,” Clinton said. “I just think you have to speak out against that. You certainly have to do that, if not explicitly, then implicitly by getting up and moving.”
That doesn’t sound like an attack to me. Reporters have been pushing her to make a statement on this issue since the story broke, when she finally makes a statement then these same reporters say she’s on the attack.
Here‘s Obama‘s statement after the Imus incident, “I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus, but I would also say that there’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude.”
Either he lied when he made that statement or he thinks racial slurs against white Americans is OK but you need to be fired is you make a racial slur against black Americans.
As for the Monica incident, it’s my opinion that they should have told the media and the world to stay out of their personal lives from the very beginning. Chelsea had it right when she told that reporter who asked about Lewinsky, “I do not think that is any of your business…”
Posted by: Blu | March 26, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
It seems that the Clinton’s will lie and swear to it “I did not have sex with that woman.” With Hillary its the bullets were flying. I cant stand by a liar.
Posted by: Carl | March 26, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
This is not sinking to low tactics, that was Obama’s doing. Why shouldn’t Hillary comment on this issue? You can bet this alone has nearly eliminated Obama’s chance to win in November. Remember, he knee-capped himself with Wright by sitting in the pews for 20 years, etc. If Obama is identified as the nominee the Repulicans will immediately start their full scale assult on this issue and McCain will win in a landslide. Therefore, in my humble opinion, Hillary better do everything she can to get the nomination or, we the democrats, are doomed again in November. So MSM, if Sen. Obama isn’t able to get our nomination because he continues to get an all but free pass, doesn’t it behoove us all to find that out now, before it is too late? Or do some the good ole’ boys in the MSM, RNC, and possibly the DNC fear a female as “Commander in Chief” so badly that your willing to concede the general election to anyone, as long as it’s not Hillary? America really needs her. She is the best choice we have to restore our standing at home and abroad. I am far from alone in that opinion. Take a look at her position papers, plans, and solutions for America, then you decide. After that you will vote Hillary. I know I am. Thank you for considering America first. KY
Posted by: Mary O'Bryan | March 26, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
How come some many look at Obama as a black man? He is WHITE also and I would vote for the white side of him.
Posted by: Carl | March 26, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
All is fair in love and war. Superdelegates
are up for grabs. Obama’a lead is by a gnat’s a_ _,
so what’s the problem? Hillary’s NOT going to just give up after months of this tiresome election process. If Obama didn’t quit his church after 20 years- Hillary doesn’t need to step aside after ONE year of campaigning either. OBLAHMA just doesn’t get Hillary. He’s been doing the “Tanya Harding” on her for some time and has NO room to sit back and light up a cigar. (he’s probably someplace throwing gatorade on himself).
It’s refreshing
to see the candidate of “CHANGE” finally come full circle. Now, he’s just an ordinary Jo, who fights dirty and is arrogant enough to think that people should just step aside for him. The voters he alienates today are the ones he might need tomorrow.
Posted by: HiHopes85 | March 26, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
If the pundits would do a little investigative reporting they might find a story from March 25/26 of 1996 when the headlines read, “MARKOVICI, Bosnia-Herzegovina – Protected by sharpshooters, Hillary Rodham Clinton swooped into a military zone by Black Hawk helicopter Monday to deliver a personal “thank you, thank you, thank you” to U.S. troops.”
Is it remotely possible that the sniper fire incident that she recalls did not take place the day she got off the big old jet but rather the day she was flown in by Black Hawk helicopter?
My guess is the pundits are trying to make her look as bad as Obama is (bad).
Posted by: Blu | March 26, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Hillary, smell the flowers and get out now, before you screw every thing up!
Posted by: Brad | March 26, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
We could credit the Clinton’s again for giving their party a bad name. She and Bill are basically admitting that they feel fine about tearing apart the Democratic party. Terrific. McCain is a shoe in if she gets the nod. The McCain camp is salivating to attack the Clinton’s. It would be a lay-up for him. Remember if the Clinton’s lips are moving, they are lying. I don’t see how rational people could support them with their tabloid political record. Get Real!
Posted by: Chuck | March 26, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
If Hillary was going to go Arc Light on Obama the time would ahve been months ago before Super Tuesday, or maybe even just after. Now… whoa… I guess Hillary Clinton figures that by goign this far she’s risked more than if she had gone out early and will go all out to win. Strange, remember how everyone said all the early primaries and cauci would mean an early finish? Whoooo….. As the lady said, hold on, it’s gonna be a bumpy night!
I can just see John McCain sitting back like the aliens on the moon in that Far Side cartoon watching the fireworks.. “Ooh, ahh…”
Posted by: David Powell | March 26, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
This country is going through so much that I know whoever gets nominated the Democrats will stick to their party because we can’t have our economy stay as it is now. To say you will vote for the opposite party if your candidate does not win will ultimately hurt no-one but you, your family and your country. It is only in the heat of this campaign the Democrats are saying this but they know what they truly must due November 2009.
The Democrats must win. So please join me in asking the two candidates to get back to the issues, control their campaign managers, and let’s get a Democrat in the Whitehouse. As fellow Democrats we must unite.
Posted by: Ann California | March 26, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Obama wants US to tighten our wallets and sacrifice! Turns out he’s a little cheap…1% to charity is like leaving a waitress a penny tip. But he gave his chruch almost $30,000. Whoooa Nelly, when I spend $30,000 I know ALL ABOUT the product I’m buying…but his HEAR NO EVIL, SEE NO EVIL speech seems to be okay in never, never land…Toto, we’re not in Kansas anymore- we’re in Obamaland…where we are taught to do as he says, NOT as he does! I’d sooner vote for Arnold Ziffel- (no offense Arnold).
Posted by: HiHopes85 | March 26, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
How could any possibly forget being under sniper fire. Can we believe anything that comes out of the clinton machine. I guess if the public believe the first wave of lies they will swallow this. Was Sinbad a republican plant. He clearly says there was no sniper fire. People who grew up in the hood never forget the sound of gun fire. I guess Hillaries white bread back ground mistakes a cars back fire with sniper fire.
Posted by: Mike | March 26, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Ok then where is the news media on this sniper fire? Does not a crowed of media follow the first lady every where she goes. What do they say? Any pictures or video of the alleged sniper fire. Many Websters dictionary needs an update. Mis-spoke is now equal to lying. I’m sure the next move by the Clinton’s is to dig up more dirt on Obama. The republican must love that they don’t have to waste time doing any dirty work.
Posted by: Mike | March 26, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
So why should she quit? Shouldn’t all the people have a chance to vote and then see where things stand? Clearly more dirt ala Rev. Wright could easily surface, given the moronic nature of his underlying world view. It’s ironic that a highlight CD put out by the church bookstore, their version of the best of his sermons, is the source, not some cherry-picking by Obama opponents.
Posted by: Cincinnati Rick | March 26, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
You are all beingutterly SILLY. These games between Clinton and Obama are nothing new. These tactics are used every election. They can not win on their own standings, and obviously the morals and ethics, so they have to see who can ,ake the other look worse. It does not matter which one gets nominated, or which candidate from EITHER major pary gets elected. Out of the three, WE, the citizens, sre going to LOSE. I don’t know a whole lot about Obama, but what I do hear, I don’t particularlly trust him to run the country properly. Clinotn, well, it has been proven that her and Bill are both liars, cheats and crooks. I don;t see how people can actually support her so much. And McCain, he just as big of a power hungary politician ase the others. I don’t see any of them really caring more abbout the country than their own power and greed.
End this stupid two party system. It has been ruined by corruption and greed. Let find a candidate that truelly cares about the country and ourr future. maverickamericans.com
Posted by: Maverick | March 26, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Hillary and Bill have always shown that they are selfish and have very little class. I am not suprise that she would do whatever to keep Obama from getting to White House since she feels like she is ENTITLE to be in the White House. She knew she was running for President when she moved from Arkansa to New York City. She is is just upset that she spent all that time representing NY when she just wanted to be President. OH well. Regardless, she has show that she has NOOOOO character whatsovever. I will never ever VOTE for another Clinton even if it is for dog pooper scooper.
Posted by: dthutc | March 26, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
If Hillary wins the Democratic nomination or God forbid the election, she will inheret only the ashes of what used to be a great democracy.
Be very careful giving power to anyone who wants it that badly.
Posted by: Casual Observer | March 26, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Bill Clinton turned the White House into the Cat House, and if Hillary becomes the president, will he then become the White House’s Tom Cat? I hope she has him spayed before the inauguration.
Posted by: michael | March 26, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Most people here seem to want other than McCane to be president, and so are tossing all sorts of verbal hand grenades at either HRC or BHO. This to clear up one point that seems here to be frequently misrepresented. Obama DID NOT try to get elections in M and F canceled; he said, If the elections were held, he would abide by the vote coming therefrom. Whereupon BOTH in Michigan AND in Florida, the STATE LEGISLATURES, which would have to act to create a new election, voted not to hold such an election: neither Obama nor Clinton had anything to do with these decisions, and neither did Howard Dean. Finally, Obama has offered a compromise which was laffed out of the place by the Clinton campaign, that the delegates be seated splitting them equally between the two candidates. (In a way, this is a concession to Clinton, because Obama could have suggested that the delegates be split in proportion to those already committed.) So whilst hurling your verbal javelins, please be sure to get your facts right, and, who knows? Maybe the level of discourse here can rise above ad hominem attacks and move on into substantive issues.
Posted by: bill peppin | March 26, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Most people here seem to want other than McCane to be president, and so are tossing all sorts of verbal hand grenades at either HRC or BHO. This to clear up one point that seems here to be frequently misrepresented. Obama DID NOT try to get elections in M and F canceled; he said, If the elections were held, he would abide by the vote coming therefrom. Whereupon BOTH in Michigan AND in Florida, the STATE LEGISLATURES, which would have to act to create a new election, voted not to hold such an election: neither Obama nor Clinton had anything to do with these decisions, and neither did Howard Dean. Finally, Obama has offered a compromise which was laffed out of the place by the Clinton campaign, that the delegates be seated splitting them equally between the two candidates. (In a way, this is a concession to Clinton, because Obama could have suggested that the delegates be split in proportion to those already committed.) So whilst hurling your verbal javelins, please be sure to get your facts right, and, who knows? Maybe the level of discourse here can rise above ad hominem attacks and move on into substantive issues.
Posted by: bill peppin | March 26, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
note that Tonya Harding didn’t win the gold medal, either. if Hillary had any true friends, they’d tell her to drop out now, before she disgraces herself even further.
Posted by: skeptik | March 26, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
What does it say about an individual who is running for the highest office in this great land of America whenever faced with Pledging Allegiance to the Flag, they NEVER place their right hand over their heart, and definitely do not(or cannot) salute? As a matter of fact, unsaid individual always seems resolute, almost removed from what is taking place for the moment.
Posted by: David L Pippin | March 27, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
It’s like they say in the Star Wars movies: If you embrace the Dark Side, it will destroy you. Hillary’s going down like the Emperor trying to take everyone else out too. All of the anger on the Left has been focused inward and on each other between these two factions, and it is blowing them apart.
McCain, wisely, is just standing back and letting the Democrats implode.
Posted by: David Powell | March 27, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
I can’t believe people are discussing whether the Florida and Michigan delegates should count, the role of superdelegates, and how Clinton can win the nomination. The question really is why she wants it, because she surely cannot win in November. The superdelegates who are entrusted with choosing a nominee who can unify the party and win the election in November cannot possibly choose her, when according to her they have complete latitude. They are NOT stuck with her just because Obama is worse than her, if she succeeds in convincing them he is not electable. I think the Clinton supporters need to realize there has been a significant anti-Clinton vote in the primaries. A great many Democrats were only looking for a viable alternative, so we were not made the laughingstocks of the world for our two-family “democracy.” Being an innocent American I never saw what was so objectionable about the Clinton return to the White House. But then I read an editorial in a British newspaper essentially ridiculing the idea. I think we have to recover from what Bush did to us in public opinion abroad. We need to be sensitive to how foolish we look when we supposedly promote democracy and then have the spectacle of Hillary clawing her way to the nomination, based on her last name, even though she can’t convince the majority of voters that she’s the nominee they want. I don’t have to be anti-Hillary to not want to see this happen. As an American I don’t want our image sullied once more abroad. Maybe if she’d divorced Bill, she would’ve been a more viable President. Sometimes history is not on one’s side. Maybe if Gore had been elected in 2000, her bid for the Presidency would not have been freighted with so much baggage, after 8 years of another Bush. But then maybe Gore could have won had not Bill Clinton tarnished the party’s image. She’s stuck with him and the choices she now has because of the way prior events worked out. Doesn’t she know hard-core Democrats have been whispering among themselves about the unsavory prospect of her candidacy for years, just hoping someone else could come to the fore? I think the superdelegates have to put the Party’s interests before everything else. Because she has run such a divisive campaign just hanging on by her fingernails, she has alienated a large portion of the Democratic base. If she is rewarded for this type of campaign, then I think a lot of people will want to get out of what has then clearly become her party, not ours. It will be time for a third party, and not one led by Nader. But there is still one way out : turning to a candidate she hasn’t yet shredded because he dared to get in her way. I would go with Edwards, who knew enough to get out of the fight. He’s actually quite a decent fellow, and although he doesn’t have her delegates, she’s already shown us that the pledged delegates and superdelegates are free to vote for whoever they please, whoever they think is best for the Party. Where does she get the silly idea that just because it can’t be Obama we are left with her and are going down to defeat in November with her? No, the superdelegates and delegates must give us a candidate that has the maximum chance of winning in November. Edwards has always said he was the one. And the voters have verified that. Blacks won’t vote for Hillary, and old white women won’t vote for Obama. Face it, the voters are both racist and sexist and neither Hillary nor Obama can win in November, especially after Hillary’s “fun” in the sandbox. I’m not happy that’s the way it is in America, but since it is I don’t see the point of Hillary becoming the nominee just because Edwards didn’t see his way to the nomination in the same scorched-earth approach she has employed. After all, it’s only about electability, not the votes, so his absence from the campaign trail has preserved his electability. He showed immense wisdom in getting out of her way, because she’d have shredded him by now too. Hillary didn’t just wake up one morning and find Obama a disaster for the country. She would have found Edwards similarly completely inadequate when compared to the advantages she clearly offers but which have mysteriously not been very apparent to over half of the voters. Her campaign is right: Superdelegates have the inalienable right to reject her or Obama as the nominee. Unfortunately for her, when your way of getting ahead is shredding the other candidate it comes with a lot of collateral damage she was either too blind to see or didn’t matter to her.
She has offended so many (Thank you James Fallows for saying something many have been too intimidated to say : the Clinton campaign is “disgusting”) What part of that does she not understand or does she think the reactions of others to her “gutter” style are immaterial?
I think that whatever she thinks she is accomplishing isn’t going to happen unless the superdelegates are bought and sold. Really, in the case of a Pyrrhic battle such as the one she has waged ever since she woke up from her almost criminal month-long February nap to find herself so far behind that her only option was to go nuclear, is to give the nomination to someone who isn’t implicated. I don’t necessarily want a President to be the kind of person who will put themselves through the version of politics the Clinton’s favor. Why should that be any part of the criteria? Let the superdelegates reward someone who was truly wise, who saw what was about to happen, and got off the stage, while reminding us he was really the only one electable of the three. He was right, and Obama was naive, or maybe he hadn’t studied Clinton as well as Edwards. Well, maybe Edwards does not deserve the nomination, since he has not put himself through the worst. So, why not Gore? He did so much for the Party, and the election was lost because Florida can’t do an election anyone can trust.
If anyone deserves a free ride in this election cycle it is him. Honestly, I think he is so decent he just wouldn’t put himself through what Obama’s been dealing with. Obama’s young , and I don’t think he really knew what he was signing up for. Gore took a pass, because he knows more. But that’s the sort of person we really need now. What is Hillary going to do after she wins the election in November? Take a 10 month nap? Because we are going to need a president who is at least awake on Day 1. She is already complaining of exhaustion and sleep deprivation, and is making more and more gaffes. (No, I don’t think every mistake she makes is devilishly intentional) But, this is a real issue. Even if she gets the nomination and wins what good will she be after a campaign that was like being in a war zone for a year? She’s going to need about a year off, similar to the vacation in office George W. Bush took until Bin Laden caught up with him.
Clinton’s interpretation of the path to the nomination delivers a candidate physically and emotionally worn down, and not at all ready for the demands of office. How many melt-downs of her have we already seen? If you are going to turn the campaign into an ordeal it would help if you have some sort of stamina. Maybe if you can’t do it for even 3 months without gaffes due to overload, your route to the Presidency should be reconsidered. This is going to be a bruising battle that will leave the voters exhausted too. If she thinks she can keep partisan fury whipped up first against Obama for 8 months and then train her sights on McCain, I’m afraid the rest of us will
be worn out. We’ll just look at the polls, figure the Convention sold us down the River keeping Clinton happy, take a nap and wake up the next day to find McCain won. We’ve got 7 more months, and already too many of us are worn down. Texas/Ohio was the political voltage of the general election. And she is going to do this again in Pennsylvania?! She may be buzzed by her hope of becoming President, but the rest of us are tuning out. This isn’t even about Obama, it’s about voter fatigue. When it takes this much effort to try to turn a situation around, you are making a mistake if you think that voters will pay attention that long. I think we’ve all heard everything, the debates have been trivialized because there have been too many,etc. So everyone will know what a crazed racist I am (I am white) I thought exactly the same thing that Reverend Wright did after 9/11. I thought that desperate Palestinians had no way to get the attention of Amercia, with George W. Bush’ immoral policy of pretending nothing was going on out in the world that could possibly concern us. Why did we have to wait 8 long years to get some attention to this desperate situation? When people are powerless they turn to asymmetric warfare. How can that be wrong? Don’t people realize that’s the way we fought the Revolutionary War, and how we won our freedom? Anyway, I was wrong. Osama had a whole different agenda, but I think I was far from alone in wondering if some sort of God-given punishment might be being meted out to us. That’s entirely natural given our religious traditions. Most of us, if we are stricken with disease that is in no way our fault will still at some time harbor doubt as to our role in bringing this upon ourselves. How is it any different to search one’s soul when one’s country is attacked? The first thing we want is a reason, and maybe we aren’t going to take George W. Bush’ answer that “they” just hate us before thinking a bit on our own. That doesn’t mean they were “right” in what they did, but it isn’t wrong for us to use the occasion for a moral inventory.
Posted by: Tina | March 27, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
Getcentered, first of all the Republicans lost control of Congress more because they did increase the size of the federal government along with the skillful attacks by the Democrats and the mainstream media on the “culture of corruption,” rather than the Battle of Iraq. The mainstream media refused to cover many Democratic misdeeds, but spent weeks hammering Republicans when their misdeeds would come to light.
The most glaring example is the case of Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA). She actually resigned from her subcomittee chairmanship when her conflict of interest hit the Internet. She was the ranking member of the Military Construction Appropriations subcomittee for six years before becoming the chairperson when the Democrats took control of the Senate. Her husband was awarded billions of dollars for military construction projects approved by Sen. Feinstein. All of this was known by the media during her re-election campaign and they sat on the story. In fact, the Bay Area news media, as far as I know, has still not reported on her resignation from the subcommittee.
And then there are Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-NV) land deals and the earmark that provided money for building a bridge over the Colorado River that would greatly increase the value of the 160 acres of land he owns.
Now as for the Battle of Iraq, it was al Qaeda that called Iraq as THEIR main battleground in their jihad against Western Civilization.
Now then, President Bush did NOT mislead us into war against Iraq. Even the Democrats believed that Saddam Hussein had WMDs. They even said so — in 1998 — when Congress gave President Clinton authorization for regime change. Saddam Hussein is the one who mislead his neighbors and the rest of the world into believing he had WMDs. We invaded Iraq because Saddam Hussein refused to comply with the conditions of the 1991 cease fire. After 12 years of failing to comply, the UN Security Council passed Resolution 1441, “a final opportunity to compy with its disarmament obligations.” Unfortunately, Saddam Hussein remained steadfast in his refusal to comply. When it became obvious that the UN Security Council was not going to follow through on its ultimatum, President Bush offered his own final ultimatum. Because France, Germany and Russia had convinced Saddam Hussein that the United States would not invade, he ignored President Bush’s ultimatum. Unlike the UN Security Council, President Bush followed through on his threat.
Contrary to the MoveON.org and George Soro’s talking points, al Qaeda WAS IN Iraq before we invaded Iraq. They had a training camp in northern Iraq. And the Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of the United States Armed Forces, that was passed in October 2002, states: “Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;”
Finally, the Democrats want to increase the size of the federal government even more. They want to raise everyone’s taxes. Allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire will result in one of, if not the greatest, tax increase in American history. But they won’t stop there. They will also raise the tax rate for anyone making more than $97,500 in order to pay for the government’s takeover of the health care system. The fact that Sen. Clinton and Sen. Obama talk about making everyone obtain medical insurance is a real sham! They actually want to eliminate private medical insurance and replace it with either Medicare or a Medicare-like bureaucracy. In one of the recent debates, Sen. Clinton actually said that those individuals who are satisfied with their medical insurance can keep their plan, “FOR NOW!”
The 2008 General Election will come down to the issues. Do we want to raise the white flag and hand a military victory to al Qaeda? Do we want the federal government to take over the health care system — and tell us what we can or cannot eat and drink, and what products we can or cannot purchase based on the premise of preventative health care? Do we want wealth redistribution? Or even, as Sen. Clinton implied, do we want to replace an ownership society with one of “shared responsibility for shared prosperity,” and a “we’re all in it together society?”
Posted by: James Danley | March 27, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am
Shameful that the news media would enable the cowardly rant of an anonymous party official…why not concentrate on the many issues our country faces..yesterday President Bill Clinton gave a wonderful speech in my state and it got about ten seconds on the news….Seems all the networks want to do is indulge themselves in a buffet of ‘gotcha’ politics, the game of it all -their twisted version of it, and sensational, smarmy, snarky pieces like this one….
Posted by: Nancy2 | March 27, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am
Obama left the country when an important decision had to be made about Michigan voters. Should Michigan voters be allowed to revote? He whined because his name was not on the ballet. Florida votes should count because his name WAS on the ballot.
Now we all were shocked and suffered a loss because in 2000 GW was handed the Presidency by the Republican appointed Supreme Court.
Now we all wake up and scream outrage over Obama’s Illinois Attorneys refusing Michigan voters the right to have their votes count in a revote. Illinois Attorneys do not have the privilege of selecting our candidate. They will not be allowed to steal this election.
Where is the fairness of the rights of the voters, we expect Democratic National Committee to correct this immediately.
Posted by: jdaniels | March 27, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am
Hillary is self-serving to the point of narcissism. She is fairly far behind and she is not polling well, rather than rally behind the leader for the good of the party AND the American people, she is doing everything in her power to destroy him. Bill Clinton was hailed as the “First black president” and was supportive of the African American community in his words and deeds. But should that be called into question, how much of that was truly sincere and how much was just to get their vote?
Right now, for the first time in history a great man who happens to be a black man has a chance to be President. Against great odds, he has won the most delegates and the most popular votes in a fair contest, experts agree the odds against Hillary catching him fairly at this point are poor at best.
Hillary is using every dirty political tactic, her campaign has pulled the race card, they have tried to portray Barack as a Muslim, insinuated that he is unelectable, inexperienced, that his supporters need to get real, with the sole objective being to cause him such catastrophic political damage so that she can win the nomination by default. I would never vote for a candidate who has lied so often, and so easily to try and get my vote. Who has stooped so low as to try and use Barack’s kindergarten papers against him, and now even after Barack so eloquently addressed the Reverend Wright issue in that historic speech, is using gutter politics to try and bring it up again to take the attention off of her lies about her experience. Talk about living in a glass house and throwing rocks… She says she would not have choosen Reverend Wright, but Barack might not choose to stay with and support a spouse whom cheated on him repeatedly, she is hardly in a position to claim moral high ground.
She has lied about Sniper fire, called Barack a liar in Ohio for his now obviously accurate mailer on her involvement in passing NAFTA, she even lied about something so petty as to why she was named Hillary. In Texas she is a Texan, in New York a New Yorker, In Ohio an out of work union worker…. Hillary has mocked the intelligence of the American people so often and so blatantly, well I think she will be surprised to learn we are not that stupid, and that Barack is not the candidate who is unelectable.
Posted by: AlonzoG | March 27, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
David Pippin -
I hope you are not refering to John Mc Cain as someone who does not lift his arms to salute or pledge of allegiance.
You may notice that he doesn’t raise his arms over his head like almost all other politicians. This is because he cannot raise his arms like everyone else as a result of the wounds he incurred in the North Vietnamese prison camp. He, like Bob dole before him, never complains about his limitations even though they were incurred as a patriot.
However, equating patriotism with a hand over one’s heart is simply foolish. Wouldn’t you guess that terrorists who are in this country would be scrupulous about ceremonial behavior just to throw us off track?
We demonstrate our patriotism by entering a debate such as the one on this blog, voting, paying taxes, attending PTA meetings, teaching, preaching, volunteering to help others, working hard, even making truthful criticisms of America when we get off track, and serving America with whatever gifts we have been given.
If someone can convince you of his or her patriotism by wearing a flag pin or saluting the flag, you are going to be taken advantage of not only politically but in life!
Posted by: wise old lady | March 27, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
Hillary Clinton does not care about her country only herself. Rightnow her plan is 2012. She knows that she can’t win against Obama but figures if she bloodies him enough he will not be the incumbent in 2012, McCain will be and then she can run against him. She will let this country suffer 4 more years of this hell just for her selfish desires.
Posted by: Progressive Patriot | March 27, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
AL GORE
AL GORE
AL GORE
AL GORE
We need you!!!
The US will just not be right until you are president!
The ghosts of our forefathers will punish us until that happens!
Posted by: Callie | March 27, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
Clintons think it’s fine to destroy people. They think that’s the fun part of politics. They aren’t what I thought they were back in the 90′s. I actually felt sorry for these people back then but to see their all or nothing selfish strategy, just makes me sick to my stomach.
Oh, and don’t forget that she lies about her experience. Bosnia, N. Ireland, etc. So many reasons not to vote for Hillary.
Posted by: Chloe | March 27, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Win or lose, Barak Obama is creating and unknowingly preparing himself for a job of far more importance than that of President of the USA!
Posted by: Razzman | March 27, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
The media has driven this election. The person voted in will be the media’s choice and followed by those who do not look further than race, gender and what the media has to say. Hillary wants to make a difference and she is smart. Obama has hung out with some shady people and it makes me wonder what is in it for all the politicians who want to force Hillary out and want Obama to win. His choice of friendships is poor judgement and I wonder who he will align with if he were to become president…and when we question him he will say it is was a “boneheaded” mistake!..but continue the friendship. Hillary certainly is not honest, but Obama is worse because he proclaims to be honest and hangs out with anti American people. the media accuse Clinton of bringing up race, but no one seems to recognize that maybe it was Obama that started the race issue in SC with his speeches geared towards black people, after gearing it towards whites in Iowa. If he truly is a uniter he would speak one language to all. I will say Obama is shrewed in a subtle way…but change and hope are very general words…change will happen no matter who is president, and hope requires recognizing the beauty of America, even with the challenges…and Obama tends to focus on what is wrong with America…or is that the media!?
Posted by: Charlene | March 28, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Saying Hillary is using Tonya Harding-like tactics is insulting to Tonya Harding, who only wanted to destroy one opponent to fulfill her ambition. By comparison, in order to fulfill her ambition, Hillary is willing to destroy the whole party, deliver the 2008 election to McCain, ruin the chances of hundreds of downstream Democrats, and force millions of Americans to live for another 4 (probably 8) years with a Bush-lite administration, tanking economy, no health care, and more US troops committed in Iraq indefinitely. But hey, so long as she gets another bite at the cherry in 2012, who cares?
Posted by: Voter2008 | March 28, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Sen. Clinton doesn’t clearly remember one day that happened 11 years ago? WOW!! (And this is after menopause during and/or in between, ladies).
Obama can sit in a church (which he said earlier this year he didn’t consider to be “controversial) for 20 years and not remember any of Rev. Wright’s sermons that were hateful or devisive or other than God and love and hope, blah, blah, blah. But yet he remembered to give them tidy sums of money every year.
You Obama supporters and Clinton-haters
(not always one and the same) need to
go back to your Sunday school days, if any of you ever had any.
Glad I’m an Independent.
Posted by: independent2008 | March 28, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Hillary Clinton has every right to let the voters decide and since she won every state with more “ELECTORAL VOTES” than Obama. The Obama win states have less “electoral votes” or they are sure Republican states anyway.
The rules of the DNC which has say the “super delegates” should decide should rule in this case. Michigan and Florida also go to Senator Clinton yet due to total bungling by the Democratic Party they are trying to make them not count.
What angers me is that Obama has no accomplishments to show for his short career except his latest evil by calling white people like his grandmother a “typical white person”.
This racist remark by Barrack Obama is the shot heard around the world saying all white people are racist.
Then he insults our intelligence saying that in over 20 years he never knew or heard his close friend and mentor Rev. Wright make these racist statements(which he also prints in his bulletin and sells the sermons on cd in his church).
And he says we should vote on his judgment. The only judgment he shows is obvious bad and racist judgment like his pastor.
Posted by: Paul Smithson | March 28, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Guess what? The Republicans ran a clean campaign! Squeaky clean!!!! No mudslinging Politics!!!!.
Says Who? The newspapers. The media. The blogs.The scandal; sheets and gossip columns etc etc etc.
Guess who went whistling all the way to the bank?
Guess who is going all the way to the White House?
Your guess is as good as mine.
America will make the right choice.The right person will be in the White House because the 2008 electorate will make sure of that.Errol Smythe
Posted by: Errol Smythe | March 28, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
This makes no sense – you all are griping over michigan and florida. What part of “they didn’t follow the rules” do you not understand? If you parked at 350pm in a no parking from 7-4pm zone, you would get a ticket. Are you going to argue that because you had a “legitamite reason” to park there you shouldn’t get the ticket? Come on – use common sense. Rules are rules just like laws are laws. Those states knew that before they had people vote.
So when is it fair to break the rules?
Posted by: char | March 31, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Hillary Clinton has set the democratic party back 20 years… she is the most arrogant and devious presidential candidate ever. What is see is NOT what you get… buyer beware!!!!!
Posted by: alvin ernest | May 12, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm