Electability in November?

Your inormation is so lies!!!! I hope you still support Obama when they roundup all the White people and Al Sharpton and Rev Wright are teaching your children.

Finally… Someone points out that primaries don’t mean much…although I still say margins, margins, margins…states where a candidate won hug (lets say 25% or greater) and the republican turn out was much weaker…and or John McCain did significantly worse or has high negatives with the general constituency…
These might be a sign…but the Clintons did not “carry” states that the margin in the primary is under 10%.
Ridiculous…but I am sure they will dig and dig and twist to make it seem like they aren’t the “bad” guys and make it seem like Sen. obama is.
Like Howard Wolfson pointing out the negative that has come out of Obama…when it unfortunately has just been a reaction to the Clintons attacks.
…trying to say “McCarthy” is worse than “Judas” is a stretch by anybody’s imagination.

Ohioan may well have voted differently had they known the truth about Hillary’s position on Nafta and that it was HER campaign, not Obama’s campaign that told the Canadian government not to take her anti-Nafta speeches seriously. Clinton, to this day, misrepresents her position on this issue that has so negatively affected peoples’ lives. So, how about a re-vote in Ohio to give the people a chance to vote based on what they now know is lies that Clinton tells?

Forget the two puffballs.
Vote Nader for real change!

Clinton is a blue chip stock.
Obama is a dot com.
One can win in Nov. One will probably crash and burn.

I’m a 60 year old white man fron North Carolina and I’m liking Obama more and more every day.
I read The Audacity of Hope and Dreams From My Father. Obama writes even better than he speaks.
Black Man for US President?
Yes, it’s about time. I got a kick from
the post above, you know, the one by the idiot:
Your inormation is so lies!!!! I hope you still support Obama when they roundup all the White people and Al Sharpton and Rev Wright are teaching your children.
“All your base belong to us.”

Again analysis from the elite class that support Obama. The fact is that you can look at the electoral map all you want and it remains unchanged from 2000 and 04. If you are going to win in november a canidate must get 2 of 3, PA, OH, FL. In Ohio primary Hillary got 70% of the white vote. In PA it will be the same or higher, and in the election in FL she got almost 60% of the vote. IN the fal Fl will definitely go republican with the help of a republician gov and the help of the elderly and jewish voters. So that leaves PA, and Oh. This is where white working class people will be the swing vote. These are the people who have not been attracted to Obama and with Rev. Wright they will more than likely go with McCain. So do all the Harvard analysis you want but unless he can get white working class voters John McCain will win in novermber its just that simple.

Obama will not win NJ, Ohio and PA, and FL and MI. Reporters need to wake up and do their homework. Forget the primaries, forget the spin. Read the local newspapers and go interview the locals. Obama is toast in middle America and beyond. And Nancy will lose her Speaker role. The Dems should have had this presidency in the bag but the DNC, along with the MSM, have tried to shove an unqualified candidate down our throats and people are rebelling.

H campagined and won electoral votes, he had ran and gained the popular vote and he has put forth the time and money in all states that the Clinton machine wrote off as unimportant. He has won in all 3 and with the remaining contests she will be unable to beat him. Now the only way for Clinton to win is to find some way to steal this election. What message does this send to other countries that we, as a nation, have spent years trying to get to hold democratic elections when we cannot even honor out own?
The man won the race for the votes and unless the voice of the people is ignored he will be the nominee.

Matthew Dowd is an liar

I’m a white woman in my 40′ies. Hilary is refusing to release her tax info which is full of deals they had with crookes in Dubai. Her polls will drop rapidly when the truth comes out.
I’m tired of one candidate changing the rules every week just so she wins. God help America.

John McCain won the Ohio primary, too, after all…

If the popular vote or polls in certain states or even general election electoral numbers were a surer way to select a viable nominee, then I’m sure the Democratic party would have used those measurements in their primary process, but they didn’t, they created a delegate system. The delegate system serves a purpose, if it didn’t it wouldn’t exist. Moreover, it is the system currently in place. It makes no difference whatsoever to argue for using a different standard now, the rules are already in place and the game has almost been fully played, sorry Hillary supporters, can’t bend the rules to fit your candidate’s strengths.

OBAMA is the real candidate for Democrat. Clinton is untrushtworthy. We are tired with her big lies. If CLINTON win the nomination she will continue to lie to the AMERICAN PEOPLE and McCain will defeat her easily in the General Election. No doubt about that. PEOPLE WAKE UP!!!!!

Bill in NC… as an over 50 white woman from NH I agree with you. I also read Obama’s books. They give such insight into what a great thinker he truly is. After over 7 years of George W. Bush it would be wonderful to have a real statesman and scholar leading our country.

Two very telling quips from Obama recently: one was that his grandmother reacted “as a typical white person”, you know since “we all harbor stereotypes”. These comments showed that Obama generalizes about people and groups himself. It says more about Obama than his grandmother. Middle America understood all of this, even if the press is still asking Obama if he needs another pillow.

I love the difference in arguments put forth between Sen. Clinton and Sen.Obama supporters…
You can feel the negative angry attacking from the Clinton side anytime facts are put on the table.
…and yes the electoral map has changed to all those who say it hasn’t since 2000 and 2004…the economy, the war and people realizing they don’t want the people who sent us into this war … people who voted it for it because they are “consumate politicians” and know how to play that game…rather than what is right for who we are as a country.
Which candidate is going to bring our allies and some of our enemies to the table to help us forward in the fall. Which candidate and their tone and campaign goes into this Presidency with more people in more countries cheering for him?
There are so many reasons all the Clinton supporters aren’t seeing clearly…and they are so wrapped up in the need for their candidate to be President they don’t see that #1 overall …is who is going to put US back in a situation to put us back in good standing and get us out of this horrible political, financial mess.

s.b. I love your comment…. Hilliary has the leadership for President of the United States.

I FIND IT TO BE ABSURD THAT NO ONE HAS MADE A COMMENT ON HOW BORACK NEEDS TO BE VIEWED NOT AS A BLACK MAN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT BUT AS A GREAT AMERICAN… WHEN DID THE ONE DROP RULE DISAPPEAR… OR DOES IT ONLY GO AWAY WHEN WHITES NEED TO FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT SELECTING A PERSON OF COLOR FOR A LEADERSHIP ROLE. TO COMPARE SENATOR BARACK TO TIGER WOODS WAS AN INSULT. UNLIKE TIGER, THE SENATOR HAS NEVER SAID THAT HE IS NOT BLACK… WHERE AS TIGER SAYS THAT HE IS SO MULTI-RACIAL AND MUTI-ETHNIC THAT HE IS ACTUALLY COBLINASIAN (I APOLOGIZE IF THAT IS INCORRECT. I AM SO TIRED OF THIS COUNTRY TRYING TO WATERDOWN A PART OF SOMEONE IN ORDER TO MAKE THEM MORE MARKETABLE. TO GO WITH THIS COLOR BLIND APPROACH IS TO IGNORE ALL THE HURDLES THAT THE SENATOR HAS HAD TO JUMP IN ORDER TO MAKE IT WHERE HE IS. tO SAY THAT THE SENATOR MUST NOW PLACE HIMSELF AS A GREAT AMERICAN AND NOT A GREAT BLACK AMERICAN… AS IF BEING A GREAT BLACK AMERICAN IS LESS THAN, WOULD BE LIKE TELLING HILLARY THAT SHE NEEDS TO PUT HER GENDER ASIDE AND WE MUST NOT LOOK AT HER AS THE FIRST POSSIBLE WOMAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE BUT JUST A GREAT CANDIDATE IS BASICALLY SAYING THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO FEEL COMFORTABLE IN VOTING FOR HER WE MUST LOOK AT HER AS A MAN. IT IS SAD THAT ONE MUST DOWN PLAY A MAJOR PART OF WHO THEY ARE INORDER TO MAKE OTHERS FEEL COMFORTABLE IN VOTING THEM… IT IS SAD… AND ONE MUST ASK IF HE DOES PUT ASIDE HIS RACE IN ORDER TO WIN THE WHITE WORKING CLASS VOTE, WILL HE BE ABLE TO PICK IT BACK UP LATER, WILL HE BE ABLE TO ADDRESS URBAN ISSUES WITHOUT BEING SEEN AS A PERSON WHO IS TOO MILLITANT… WILL HE BECOME A TAR BABY?

The HillBilly Show’s ‘kitchen sink’ approach is only because they are in Plan B right now. Hill and Bill have finally accepted she’s toast in 08 and have devised Plan B – “Hillary in 2012!” The first point in Plan B is make certain that Obama will lose – if they don’t accomplish this first point, the rest of Plan B will not work.
Watch out folks (and Obama), it’s going to get UGLY. The HillBilly Machine has just started to put the gears into motion – there’s going to be SMOKE before long.

There are no caucuses in Nov and Republicans will vote Republican.
Democrats need to ignore caucses in States that will continue to be Republican in NOV.
Maybe caucuses in swing states mean something, but not as much as a primary.
Caucuses in Red states should be totally ignored by super delegates.
It’s an all ballot box vote in all winner take all, all electoral college states in Nov.
The winner take all system seems to work quite well for Republicans and they seem to win the white house more often than not.
If the point is to win the white house, Dems need to think hard about their ridiculous system of apportioning delegates and the fat that MI and FL do exist and will be voting in Nov.

I still haven’t heard anything from anyone including Obama himself made be believe he has the knowledge, the experience, leadership experience and “judgment” to lead this country at this time. We have a war, we have one of the worst economic recession knocking at our doors, we have immigration issues, we have China, etc.etc. and people still believe Obama is the messiah that has the answer to all our problems! Wake up, where is his record, what he has done in Illinois or in Washington? Promises, promises and promises.
This is not American Idol context, this is the Presidency, the debacle will be to elect a man like him.

Matthew Doud is such a turncoat. Does he like the hate filled vile coming out of Obama’s pastor? What about the Rezko deal? Obama seemed to be honest, but lately he looks like any other politician on the take. How can you support George Bush & Arnold and then change your core beliefs on a dime and support someone who has such poor judgement. Isn’t judgement part of the resume for President? Obama can’t pick a good mentor for his daughters, how in the heck will he choose his cabinet????

The guy who wrote this article used ‘selected’ stats to promote Obama. No candidate has ever lost California , Ohio, Pennysvannia and New York in the primaries and went on to win the white house. He outright FAILED to mention that.
He also fails to mention that Obama will get more bad news . He expects Obama to get GOOD coverage over the next 3 weeks . Why? Wishfull thinking? RIGGED MEDIA ? Why?

Obama will only win the Presidency because he is now distinguished himself a black man running for Presidency. So not up set the American – American community, majority of the democratic super delegates will support him, not because he is electable but now be cause his the black man for President. People may think these words are racist , but they are the truth. When the Mayor of Virgina city can state as he has , that if Obama doesn’t get the nomination there will be riots in the streets. Obama’s campaign and racial political speech has taken the American population back to the 50′s, 60′s and 70′s. I will vote for the first time in 46 yrs. republican!

Democratic nomination was Hillary’s to lose and she is losing it. How can anyone argue that she is more electable in Nov when she screwed up the primaries. It takes strategy and smarts to win elections… different strategies for primaries and general elections. Hillary has failed in the first test, and is now asking us to trust us with a bigger test in November. Obama is a once in a life time candidate who is winning against odds. And those of you who are calling him racist, you really belong in the other party, please vote for McCain whoever the democratic nominee is. I and an Obama supporter but will vote for Clinton, if she is our nominee.

I AM SO SICK OF THE MEDIA AND THE PUNDITS GIVING OBAMA A FREE RIDE….HERE IS SOME INFO ABOUT OBAMA:
One side of his mouth:
Page 88 of his book Dreams of My Father
Describes his grandmother being accosted by a rough man at the bus stop. She was clearly “upset”…. Obama was infuriated when he found out that the man who upset his grandmother was black!
The other side of his mouth:
Obamas “race” speech: I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother ��” a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.
OBAMAS HYPOCRISY EXPOSED
One side of his “mouth”
Barack Obama’s threat to withdraw from NAFTA should be viewed as “political positioning,” according to a memo written after the U.S. presidential hopeful’s senior economic policy adviser met with Canadian officials.
The memo, obtained by the Associated Press, was written by Canadian consulate staffer Joseph DeMora, after a meeting in Chicago last week with Austan Goolsbee and Canadian Consul General Georges Rioux.
The other side:
Obama foreign policy adviser Susan Rice said on MSNBC that neither Goolsbee nor any member of the Obama campaign had met with Canadian officials. Obama Campaign Manager David Plouffe also denied to reporters that Goolsbee had met with officials. Plouffe explained that he did not know and then on a later call with reporters — after the AP memo was leaked — said that Goolsbee had showed Canadian officials around ….
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/10/752998.aspx
OBAMAS HYPOCRISY EXPOSED:
One side of his mouth:
On CNN last Tuesday, Senator Obama said, “Well, look, Wolf, I think if you watch how we have conducted our campaign, we’ve been very measured in terms of how we talk about Senator Clinton. … I have been careful to say, that I think that Senator Clinton is a capable person and that should she win the nomination, obviously, I would support her. You know, I’m not sure that we have been getting that same approach from the Clinton campaign.”
The other side:
The facts of this election stand in stark contrast to that statement. Senator Obama and his senior campaign officials have engaged in a systematic effort to question Hillary’s integrity, credibility, and character. They have portrayed her as someone who would put her personal gain ahead of the lives of our troops, someone who would say or do anything to win an election, someone who is dishonest, divisive and disingenuous. They have adopted shop-worn anti-Clinton talking points, dusted them off and unleashed a torrent of unfounded character attacks against her. Among other things, they have described Hillary – and her campaign – as:
“Disingenuous”
“Too polarizing to win”
‘Divisive’
“Untruthful”
“Dishonest”
‘Calculating’
“Saying and doing whatever it takes to win”
“Attempting to deceive the American people”
“One of the most secretive politicians in America”
“Literally willing to do anything to win”
“Playing politics with war”
To top it off, they have blanketed big states with false radio ads and negative mailers — ads and mailers that experts have debunked time and time again…..
http://taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=27240

Hillary and Barack are both weaklings. Both carry an extraordinary load of dirty wash and both live in a world of guilt by association and character assignation and therefore, are extremely weak on any defining issues. Both are slipping behind McCain by every poll out there.
Vote for real change democrats. Vote Nader!

The bottom line is that Obama’s favorables are down and there is a clear “Wright effect.” Whites are moving to Hillary Clinton. If that trend continues, and the Democratic Party’s elite stand with Obama, then they will be committing political suicide. And surely it is better to know that your nominee is strong in must-win states than not. Again, the primaries are only a measure of a trend, but not one any smart delegate would overlook.
Halli Casser-Jayne
http://www.thecjpoliticalreport.com

The biggest issue for Obama’s electability is Michigan and Florida.
ALL the MSM were on about how good this was for Obama that there weren’t going to be redo’s and these states weren’t going to count.
On what planet, in what parallel universe is it good for Obama to block the votes of MI and FL?
This is political suicide.
MI and Fl will have to be seated and now they will probably be seated as is.
Obama was just bluffing and stalling and trying to convince people like he’s Tokyo Rose that Clinton can’t win.
She can win and MI and FL have to be seated. These states will simply take it to conventnion.
If they aren’t seated the Dems have lost the white house.
That’s Obama’s real electability issue. If he has to win by excluding them, he has lost.

Hillary’s Hopes Halted
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WASHINGTON, March 23 (UPI) — New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson said Sunday aides to U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., use “gutter” politics to get their way.
The former candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination was compared by one Clinton adviser to Judas this week following his voiced support of Clinton’s rival, U.S. Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., The Washington Post reported.
“I’m not going to get in the gutter like that,” Richardson said of the comments from informal Clinton adviser James Carville. “And you know, that’s typical of many of the people around Senator Clinton. They think they have a sense of entitlement to the presidency.”
Richardson has been critical of the ongoing fight for the Democratic nomination, but his scorn of such tactics has primarily been aimed at Clinton’s camp.
“The campaign has gotten too negative,” he said of the electoral battle.
“I just feel the time has come to come together behind a candidate.”
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March 22, 2008
Gallup Daily: Obama Edges Ahead of Clinton
Democratic nomination preference: Obama 48%, Clinton 45%

Barack Obama is a hustler and a lying fraud who’s campaign is in the toilet. The media can spend everyday between now and Apr 22 talking about how he has this nomination won. It won’t change a thing. He’s going to lose the popular vote….without MI and FL!

“This is still Obama’s race to lose at this point.”
Yes it is and if he keeps up the rookie one-liners, he will lose it.
There is a BIG variable that the author left out though and that is the Republican Attack Machine. To think that the controversies surrounding the Obama campaign are going to go away in a general election is simply absurd. If you fail to account for that as far as electability goes, you are committing political suicide.

In agreement with Kimberly Peacock, I have sent email to the DNC stating that if Obama is the Democratic nominee, I will be voting Republican in Nov. He is not JFK, reincarnated.

I am a 56 year old white woman who supports Barack Obama because his vision for this country is one that I share. I would be honored to have this man lead our country to become a better place for my grand children. As for those who are afraid of what fate an African-American man as president would bring (see jfb statement above), imagine how African Americans and other minorities have felt for hundreds of years without a choice. You should let your guard down and open your minds to change. The world is moving forward in a positive new direction without you, and you’re too stuck in mediocrity to see the light.

Maybe some do not read but there is so much stuff on the net about Obama and his associates it scary.
The media just ignores this as if this is a game, this man is running for the position of President, so everything no matter how small matters, his friends, his past dealing, yes and even his youth and what he was up to.
He has so much baggage its unbelievable from Rezko to militants and terrorists the list just keeps growing by the day. How can anyone voting not take all this into consideration I do not know, and the thing is no one in the media can explain any of these matters or give one viable answer as to why Obama associated with these people.
Obama’s past make Bush and Chaney look lite compared to who he got involved with.

Obama’s wins in the red states are really Republican wins in Nov, especially in light of the Wright controversy. I don’t know which “poll” his campaign can point to that says he will definitely win. But Clinton can point to blue states that traditionally deliver big electoral numbers and according to Ed Rendall she’s ahead by 70 points. So why doesn’t Dowd look at this statistic?

does anyone realize that Obama cant win Ohio, florida, michigan, or Pennsylvania in the general election?

does anyone realize that Obama cant win Ohio, florida, michigan, or Pennsylvania in the general election?

does anyone realize that Obama cant win Ohio, florida, michigan, or Pennsylvania in the general election?

It probably still is Obama’s race to lose but I want to tell ya’all that he has lost my vote.

Where is the argument about electoral college in this electability argument? The GE isn’t about the popular vote alone, it’s about the electoral college.
I think it is also a failure on the part of the author to not give MI and FL any mention as a factor of electability. These are critical swing states as we have seen in past elections.
2004 – MI | Kerry, 51%; Bush, 48%
2004 – FL | Bush, 52%; Kerry, 47%
2000 – MI | Gore, 51%; Bush, 47%
2000 – FL | Bush, 49%; Gore, 49%
1996 – MI | Clinton, 52%; Dole, 38%
1996 – FL | Clinton, 48%; Dole, 42%
1992 – MI | Clinton, 44%; Bush, 36%
1992 – FL | Clinton, 39%; Bush, 41%
We don’t really know how these will go in the GE, but if these states have any sense that they have been disenfranchised in the primaries, it may prove to be a difficult variable to overcome for an Obama nomination.

I like some comments posted by s.b.
Yes, Obama is like dot come stock.
Hillary is like blue chip stock.
We all know how people were addicted on the dot com stock. We all know what people criticized Warren Buffet that he is old, out-dated, he doesn’t know new stock.
Then, we all know, Warren Buffet is right, we don’t want to buy unknown stock, bubble stock.
We all know how bubble stocks crashed.

Barack Obama has nothing to do with the seating process in MI and FL. This was a DNC decision. I give hime credit for abiding by it, unlike Clinton who is only trying to change the rules to work in her favor. She won FL on name recognition because Barack never campaigned there, and MI because his name wasn’t even on the ballot. ENOUGH about MI and FL…they made their beds.
As far as the red state vs. big state arguement, PUHLEEEZZZZE. Who cares if HRC won the big states? Those are yellow dog states. They will always elect a Democrat!!! If Barack is the nominee, of course he will carry states like CA and NY.
Enough about Rev Wright too. Stop taking a sound bite and making it someone’s entire life. How would you feel if the media found one clip of you ranting about something and said THIS is who you are. By the way, have you ever listened to the horrible things Rev Jerry Falwell said????? Yet somehow has was welcomed to the White House by every President and no one thought twice about it.

Obama promised to FL voters that he would do everything he can to have their votes counted when he visited there last fall, now he and his campaign have been doing everything they can to prevent FL votes being counted, either the votes of 1st primary, or a do-over votes.
Words are just words? What a joke!

These post make me realize that there are a lot of stupid people who should not be allowed to vote.

Obama blocked the revotes in MI and Fl then said he would abide by the DNC decision knowing it could never go to the DNC without his approval first.
Obama blocked the revotes in MI and FL.
He cannot win if he stops them from being seated at the convention.
He can’t.

The SEIU accounts for more than half of the outside political money directly supporting Mr. Obama, while a new California political group called Powerpac.org has spent more than $300,000, according to a review of late independent expenditure reports filed with the Federal Election Commission since last year.Last month, The Washington Times reported that while Mr. Obama refuses donations from federal lobbyists and paints his Democratic presidential rival as a Washington insider for accepting their contributions, he took hundreds of thousands of dollars from partners at dozens of firms that lobbied Congress in 2007.

What amazes me is the MSM acts like Florida and Michigan have just disappeared because their revotes were blocked by Obama.
Well they haven’t disappeared and they won’t disappear.

Not so color blind America
It all comes back to race then, experience theory is weak, gender well america knows sexism exsists, maybe not as unfavorable as racism, the Clinton name holds some weight. The blue states, large states theory is weak unless whites, hispanics and asian democrates won’t vote for Obama in the fall if he’s the nominee. They are pretty simular on policy issues,it just Hillary wants to pull the troops out in 6 months instead of a year a so.Bill’s statement about two candidates that loves this country, may have introduced
(on the cool) another tool or excuse: the now antipatriotism card from minister Wright’s sermon. Scandles evidently doesn’t make a difference because the Clintons wrote the book.
I have to give the 20% of Ohions credit for at least being honest about race influencing their vote. Which a lot of other americans would probably not admit. I am AA and I do support Barack Obama for president.

I am from Iowa. Our caucus turnout this year was two and one half times that of the Republicans and the equivalent of a primary. Obama beat Clinton handily in Wisconsin which has been a very close state in the last two elections and also won Virginia by a landslide which appears to be a state that can be won by a Democrat. Hillary won the far western mountain counties in that State which were Huckabee counties on the Republican side. Neither Democrat will win the South and in some States Obama runs better than Clinton and in others he does. Obama does run better in the west and Richardson should help him win New Mexico.We still haven’t seen the Clinton tax returns and I think there’s a lot more dirt, whether it is true or not, that the Republican slime machine will put out on her which will be combined with a continual tendency on her part to depart from the truth (Nafta,vsat experience, etc.). Obama is the better candidate. I think his remarks about his grandmother were true and can say that I heard similar comments from mine, which also included anti semitic remarks from a German Lutheran heritage. We’ve come a long ways but we’ve a long way to go and Obama is the one who can get us there. Hillary is really only a third term for Bill who has had his time (although not the kind the Republicans would have liked) and McCain is a third term for Bush.

Polls mean nothing, attitudes and responses of actual voters and donors mean everything. Obama is on a downward spiral that neither the media, nor his campaign, can halt. HRC voters are more angry than anyone can imagine, unless you are one! To use a civil rights anthem, “we shall not be moved”!
Obama cannot win without us, even if he were the nominee. Perhaps HRC could not win without his voters. However, I think she would have a better chance without his than vice versa. I would be willing to take that chance. Otherwise, It is an impasse!
We are fed up with Obama, his campaign, the press, and “the all we need is faith in Obama lock-steppers” clamoring the empty rhetoric of “hope and change”! Along with the highly denigrating mantra of “if you do not support our half-black candidate you must be racist, old, ignorant, etc., or perhaps just typical white people”!
Fact is, I am prejudiced against both halves of him, not because of race ( you can paint a con-man blue and he will still be a con-man, color has no bearing), but because I see him and Axelrod as the ultimate charlatans! They are trying to perpetrate the biggest scam this country has ever witnessed. But, finally the country has awakened!
I have faith, but it is not vested in Obama! It is vested in God. I need no living being as a Saviour! If I choose to be “starry-eyed”, I can merely walk out and look up at a beautiful night sky. Obama’s well-delivered, rhetorical speeches have become mere platitudes, and do not move me.
I will not vote for Obama under any circumstances, and I believe the many, many bloggers, (and personal contacts, including my family) who say they feel the same! Call it anger, call it pragmatism, call it “common sense”. By any label it still boils down to No Way, re Obama!

Dot com Obama vs. Blue Chip Hillary
Where are you going to put your money for the long term?

Hey Love, wake up, we can be nice, we can also speak of hope and change. race is not the issue, it is the baggage that BHO has brought into the campaign with him. He speaks a good game but cant play in the big leagues. We should support either candidate as the alternative is unacceptable, but lets not let our color blindness distract us from the real issue – electability. barrack cant win in November… sorry. and this is coming from an open minded progressive who has not voted for a republican since Regan’s first term, and I wont start now. HRC is better but I will vote for BHO if I have to.

We are doing the same thing… going racial. When does it stop. Yet we talk about the candidates going racial and yet we’re posting racial remarks….we’re just as bad. Gee, some example we give to our possible presidential candidates! This is ridicious. You should be ashamed!

Jackie A. – Obama has been running for President for a lot longer than you give him credit for. He is a smart man with a lot of ambition. He speaks in soaring platitudes. He is fresh. He is inspiring. He is unelectable. He is damaged. He has a future. His time is not now. Hopefully we can salvage this election and put HRC in the White House, for the sake of our country, our reputation, our economy, our health and our fellow citizens, no matter who they vote for. We need the Supreme Court more than we need speeches of hope and change. Both candidates can bring it, who will get the chance?

Matt: Your point about Clinton in 92 is well taken, but the US wasn’t in a war in 1992-had we been Clinton would have lost.
Obama will likely win the nomination, but he’s dead in the water vs McCain in November due to the way he handled Wright. Once again the Democrats are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Am I the only person who is fed up with Hillary reading her speaches in a monotone? She just repeats what her aides feed to her. Whereas usually Obama is an exciting orator. He comes across as knowing what he wants to say because he has done his homework. He is extremely knowledgeable about our history and that of other countries too. He stayed up late the night writing the historic speach he gave last week. He didn’t have to read it off of a prompter!.

Nice try, but untru no matter how you frame it for Obama
Whites:Kerry 41%;Gore 42%; Bill 43%
Give all AA votes to Obama
4 Latino votes= 1 White vote (ratio)
Even Obama camp has figures of needing 39% white vote minimum to have chance at winning. Best case scenario 37% (before Wright). That means at 39% he needs 75% Latino vote (thus Richardson), but Latinos aren’t loyal to BR, they are to HRC, and McCain after HRC becasue McCain is border state senator with favorable stance on immigration. Latinos are the swing vote since numbers are equal to AA now. Latino also don’t vote necessarily Dem as they can vote Rep, as with Bush no problem since no party loyalty like AA. Sorry, Obama can’t get 75% latino since McCain has 65% support from them and Obama may need more Latinos (like 100%)since white voters won’t even be close to 37% now, after Wright and “typical white person,” since defection rate are increasing.
Obama can’t win in November, so don’t buy these lies that are set up to invoke feedback. National polls don’t matter, state ones do since it’s an electoral college.

The analysis includes the assumption of ‘favorable news media’ for Obama after the recent controversy. That’s a reasonable assumption, but favorable MSM coverage will be offset by more skeptical coverage outside the MSM. After all, the MSM was only forced to get tougher with Obama by ‘outside’ ridicule of its softness. The gloves are off, and the MSM will not be able to keep evading the tough questions about the political culture of the south side of Chicago from whence Obama has risen. More information about the attitudes of people close to Obama will follow. The ‘conversation’ about race undertaken by Obama supporters and the MSM (a lot of overlap there, I know) has already deteriorated into the usual guilt-mongering attacks on legitimate concerns of majority whites that has hurt the Democrats so badly for forty years. Unless Obama explicitly repudiates things like race-based affirmation action, and addresses the fantastically disproportionate statistics in terms of interracial violence in this country without flinching, he will not win. He’s talking the talk, but not walking the walk.
The political fact is that most post-1960s presidential races are the GOP’s to lose. G.W. Bush got 50.7% of the popular vote in 2004. No Democratic candidate has done that since 1964. (The Republicans have exceeded it four times over the same period.) Five consecutive northern Democrats have gone down to defeat for the presidency since 1968, and now the slow-learning Democrats are about to forward a sixth. The Democratic Party is in a strong position, but their leading candidates for president have been their weakest link. Orthodox political pundits were so dazzled by the PC beauty of it – an African-American who talks like a white liberal! a savvy female! – that they overlooked the weaknesses. The fact is that after the most hagiographic free press coverage in my adult lifetime, Obama should be way ahead, and he isn’t.

To Love – where did I go racial? stop attacking me for stating the obvious and look at it with an open mind.
To All – This is about general election electability, not pledged delegates, not how many states won… it is about which states have been won or can be won. Back up, open your eyes and decide on your own, not based on race or fancy speeches, based on who will vote and who can carry the states we need.
Only then will we be able to nominate a candidate who will win in November and be in place to steer the Supreme Court in the right direction

OG Dream Ticket – Hillary is doing fine. signing up more online donations all the time. Every month is bigger than the one before… and yes we all knw that it is the same for BHO. Dont count her out because of money, that would be a big mistake. She has shown teh ability to stay in this for the long run and it wouldn’t make sense for her to get out before the convention unlesss he loses a majority of the remaining primaries (which she wont). PA will give her a big push through the rest of the Spring, into summer and then it is up to the DNC to resolve this issue.
Besides, she has more in her GE fund than BHO. Her money issue was temporary and has passed. Dont go trying to bring up another issue to deflect from the growing concern about your candidate, that is so old school politics.

For all of you that believe Obama will win NJ, PA, etc in the general election because they are Democratic states, take a look at the new polls. Obama would loose to McCain in NJ and PA as well as Ohio, Florida, and others. HRC would win against McCain in NJ, PA, FL, and is tied in Ohio and others.
Obama can not win in a general election!

Scott – bad decision. Nothing good can come from a McCain win

Obama and his campaign is full of Washington insiders who had grudge against Bill and Hillary. Obmama cannot distinguish between DC insider and outsider. He has extremely poor judgement. He heard the sermons of Rev Wright for 20 years and now that people know about it, he is distancing from it. I don’t think he is mature enough to be our President. If he happens to be, he may not last even the full term.

Aside from the fact that Obama essentially has the nomination locked up…
The question is not whether democrats can win in November, but whether we can win with someone running against her “good friend, John McCain, who voted with her in authorizing the Iraq War and to “bombbombbomb, bombbomb Iran.”
Or is McCain more beatable against someone who can credibly bash him on his support of the war, and his flip-flops of recent years and his full support of Bush/Cheney policies including waterboarding.
The answer is Clear!!!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

NO bama 08…He is a Crook!! What is wrong with you people. If he is the nominee I and many others will vote against him.

Wow! I just read jfb’s comment posted early on. He/she is clearly deluded or misled, likely both. Seriously, there is no plan to round us up and put us in a camp in Utah or anywhere else. Anyone who is falling for that crazy story should turn in their voter registration card.

Regina:
Surely you meant Hillary — it’s been her dirty politics.
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

Is he related to Maureen Dowd?
I’m leaving the Democratic Party because they have turned into the Right-Wing when they attacked you as unpatriotic for questioning George Bush. Now, if you question Senator Obama, you’re a racist or a sell-out. The media needs to do their job and question all of the candidates equally. As black people, we’re so ready to take credit for Senator Obama’s accomplishments. It seems to me that White people need to take credit, they raised him. Proving that even if you’re a single parent with a strong support system, you can raise a good kid if you make education the priority. Bill Clinton may have had a tougher life than Senator Obama.
I’m sure that Senator Obama will win the traditionally democratic states, but what about the swing states that Senator Clinton has won? You need to take a serious look at where he’s winning these delegates from. Republican states and caucuses are not true representations. Caucuses leave too much room for voter fraud. The DNC needs to take their big boy pills, stand up and make the decision based on what’s best for the party. They need to be concerned with what democrats want not republicans, especially those of us who have remained engaged and voted with them consistently, not just because it’s now the cool thing to do. They need to not worry about being politically correct and offending people. Stand up and make decision based on what’s obvious. Grow a set.

The DNC needs to decide if it wants to comitt political suicide by not seating MI and FL and not repecting their votes.
If the DNC in its great wisdom backs Obama, the election in Nov is over before it begins.
Then after taking out MI and FL add Rev Wright into the mix.
I honestly dont think Obama can carry NY, not with his church blaming the US for 9/11.
I think the Republican will wipe the floor with Obama all over the politcal map.
But if the DNC backs him agains 2.3 million voters in MI and FL they get what they deserve.
And John McCain isnt so bad. He’s very acceptable to lots of democrats. Which is also why Obama won’t win. McCain is ok. He’s almost a Democrat.

indo WROTE : He is someone who started from the bottom, who has seen true lives in different continents (proud he’s lived in my country!) through the eyes of a young child who went through a lot of difficult times growing up, and has emerged to become a true leader, very international in a true sense, and is a uniter. This is good for the world!
I am not elligible to vote, unfortunately, but GO OBAMA! MAJU TERUS! RACE AHEAD!
INDO – You really need to stop drinking the Obama KOOL-AID and seek serius HELP!

The Clinton campaign is grasping at straws and everyone, especially the superdelegates, knows this. Using Mark Penn’s logic, Clinton would lose D.C. and Illinois to McCain, does anyone really believe that ?

Each candidate has its SWOT. However the folowing points deserve from my point of view serious consideration:
WOMEN CONSTITUTE HALF OF THE SOCIETY BUT TILL TODATE NO WOMAN HAS BECOME THE PRESIDENT OF USA WHILE ON GENDER BASIS THEY SHOULD HAVE GOT HALF OF THE TOTAL NO. OF PRESIDENTS THAT USA HAS PROPDUCED TODATE. At last a woman/Lady Clinton has risen to the occassion & she should be given the oppurtunity O/W you do not know how long it takes for a woman to become the President of USA. As to Mr. Obama who represents aminority community & being black if he should be given the oppurtunity then what about other so many communities who have also not a chance as yet. What is of bad taste is that afro american community is voting for him en block & here it is certainly not all votes are on the basis of the merit only.
I am for Lady Clinton because as woman she represets much bigger percentage of the society. However if my first choice does not get realised my best wishes to Mr. Obama as i want Dem. Party win in the fall.Kathmandu, Nepal.

Perfect Republican ad for the general election. Hillary explains the “fire” she took on her trip to Bosnia. Wait till they show what really happen. Then she will feel the real fire from being dishonest about her “combat” expierence. Hosting state diners at the White House doesn’t make you commander and chief. The Clinton’s say anything and do anything for power.

So Obama is dot com stock and Hillary blue chip?
Well anyone know the price of Amazon.com stock? And Bear Stearns hasn’t done so well recently! Its not what type of stock it is, its the quality. Obama is genuinely Presidential, as is Hillary.
Personally I would prefer Obama to win the nomination, as much as for anything, because I don’t see how Clinton wins the nomination in a way that will enable her to win the Presidency. Also I believe, genuinely in my heart, that Obama can be a genuinely historic President, not just because of his skin color, but because of who he is. Words do matter and its time to go beyond the pettiness of the primary campaign. If Hillary can’t win the nomination clean, by arguing her strengths, then she doesn’t deserve it. So argue your case bnut leave the other candidate alone.
On the Pastor Wright stuff, to me its quite simple. I will judge any candidate for President on what THEY say, not anyone connected to them. I beleive in freedom of thought, and I believe Senator Obama has a brain inside his head. Find me a quote of him saying something like the US of KKKA and I will start to take interest. (Not wearing a lapel badge or not putting your hand over your heart during the national anthem don’t count, not using empty gestures of patriotism don’t make you unpatriotic.)

Yes, Hillary can beat Obama in the big states, as well as…at lying, having questionable associations, playing dirty politics, having unsavory surrogates, and enough Washington exposure to make her the Candidate for Same. Yes, it is true that the more well-off and higher-educated go for Obama. But one does not need a six-figure income nor a string of letters behind their name to possess good ol’ fashioned common sense. But then again, common sense ain’t that common these days.

Obama 100% will loose to McCain in November if he is nominee. Hope people will wake up atleast now and start voting for Hilary.

Stephanie….they are splitting the Jewish vote on the national level. Apparently that Farrakhan endorsement did not hurt Senator Obama. That is precisely what I mean…we keep highlighting HIM and putting HIM in the spotlight with these declarations that aren’t supported by the numbers.
They are both trailing McCain in the polls!
Hillary has a far worse approval rating!
Hillary has a far worse truthworthiness rating!
DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE A PROBLEM?
Get focused. Get out and talk about the positives about Hillary. Talk to your neighbors about the good and why she is a much stronger candidate.

jfb: What’s wrong with you? Can’t you carry on an intelligent conversation?. Where is the lie in this analysis? Oh! I forgot you probably did not finish high school.

McCain is not ahead just because the polls show him ahead. Its about turnout, and the Republicans are not going to turnout for McCain like the Democrats will for Obama. Obama will sweep with a mandate!

Wrong.
The entire republican base is furious over Obamas black panther status at his church. Do you honestly think any republicans want this guy?
The clinton democrats dont even want him. He is bad news. He has DIVIDED the democratic party. Not UNITED it. He brings out every single radical there is to stump for him.
He is bad news, and is unelectable in a general election.

Here’s another problem.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/105097/Perceived-Honesty-Gap-Clinton-Versus-Obama-McCain.aspx

So many things are a crying shame here. Here’s a list:
1. If Wright said it, it’s the same as Obama saying it right? How ridiculous is that!
2. Some people keep saying that Obama never explained why he stayed in the church for 20 years in his speech. YES HE DID! Some people just don’t have enough heart to understand his explanation. He said that although he strongly disagrees with the remarks Wright made (the 5 or 6 comments that the media keeps airing), he has known the man for 20 years and the comments do not accurately describe everything about him. Secondly, he loves the MAN a whole lot more than his SERMONS! He brought him to Christ. Even though Wright’s comments damaged Obama’s campaign, he didn’t throw him under the bus just to impress people who are willing to judge HIM based on OTHER PEOPLE’S words. Some votes aren’t worth fighting for…if you are a REAL Christian who stands on principle.

The problem wasn’t Wright but Obama himself. By standing by Wrights doctrine (not sound bites) all those year he exhibited incredible bad judgement and lost his aura of being a uniter and his mystique of being a special candidate. He will go from now to November explaining why he is not an America hater and a left wing radical. He may convince some or most, but that’s a far cry from his former status as a Messianic candidate. The bubble burst and there is no way to put it back together.

Obama is unelectable in white America. It has nothing to do with Clinton or McCain but everything to do with Obama himself. His & Michelle’s racist ways just won’t fly. Sorry but those are the facts and the polls support it.

“Stasis” my assis! Do any of you Obama folks even know a Republican?
They would vote for Nader as a Republican, anybody! To retain the Whitehouse.
Have you even looked at McCains approval ratings among Repubs, hovering around 70% last I saw, perhaps more now, since he took his trip.
Get real! quit fantasizing. If that is how you think Obama could beat McCain, “Republicans will not turn-out”.
Guess Again!

I am sooo tried of all the ways the Clinton camp keep coming up that shows her a winner of any contest to show her electibility. She is electable but not to the extent of the majority of voters in this primary. They are like the little kid who lies and thinks if he keeps repeting it then sooner or later it will be accepted as fact…and perhaps to those uneducated Clinton voters they believe it…but sooner or later the truth will win out. It always does.

I am still confused as to what the BIG RUSH is here to have this over. Pennsylvania, Indiana, North Carolina .. and more states have yet to vote. Let’s let these states vote and then see where we are. There is too much at stake this time around to rush the process. And, I definitely don’t want the Kennedy-Kerry-Richardson’s to make the decision!!!!!!!!!!!

Brenna— C’mon, Goolsbee acknowledged himself that he had some communication
with a Canadian representative. Goolsbee
said there was a “miscommunication” and that the notes the Canadian representative wrote were not accurate interpretations of what he had said. Then he referred any other questions to the Obama camp. So if it didn’t happen you better tell Goolsbee he was just dreaming. Also, what about Obama’s public support for the NAFTA based trade model PFTA ? It sure is nice to know the Obama camp doesn’t play dirty nor engage in “old politics”- does he really underestimate his supporters that much that he thinks they eventually won’t be able to figure it out?

Brenna— C’mon, Goolsbee acknowledged himself that he had some communication
with a Canadian representative. Goolsbee
said there was a “miscommunication” and that the notes the Canadian representative wrote were not accurate interpretations of what he had said. Then he referred any other questions to the Obama camp. So if it didn’t happen you better tell Goolsbee he was just dreaming. Also, what about Obama’s public support for the NAFTA based trade model PFTA ? It sure is nice to know the Obama camp doesn’t play dirty nor engage in “old politics”- does he really underestimate his supporters that much that he thinks they eventually won’t be able to figure it out?

Obama won those red states before the contreversy of his pastor. Watch when the republican put their hands on him. We are going to loose big. As the european said unless they are both on the ticket McCaine will win and I do beleive that will happen. Let’s be honest here the liberal media neglect to look into Obama records and more are to come from him because again the media didn’t do their job as they are too in love with Obama and we are going to pay a great price. You destroy our Hillary for nothing.

As I wrote in an earlier post, we non Obama voters are very tired of being told how insignificant we are. Yet, Obama supporters are either so naive, so confident, or merely blindly callous that they cannot see the writing on the wall. Perhaps it is simply a state of denial.
They proceed to attack anyone who deigns to challenge Obama’s electability with reckless abandon. Not realizing that we, the opposition, were already inured in our support for HRC and that every slur, every slanderous only strengthens our resolve. They themselves are driving down Obama’s support as much as any other factor.
We are tired of being called racists, bigots, ignorant, old, too stupid etc., any time we raise an issue about Obama.
Color is the absolute least of my worries re Obama. It is what I do not know that troubles me, and the fact that charisma wears very thin in a hurry. If you ask his supporters about him they give you his web site, tell you about his book (which I have and have read), or lay the “unity” thing on you. As if any scam artist could noy create a fantastic, deceptive website.
If none of that works, then you get the ad-hominem attacks.
Axelrod is running this campaign like a franchise. It is an exact duplication of D. Patrick’s campaign in Mass. Right down to the “racial guilt” aspect. Talk to someone in Mass., ask them how the pre-cursor is turning out. Check Patrick’s approval level.
Again, they won Mass. on white liberal guilt, but that will not play throughout the country. The speeches have stopped working also. Folks started listening for content instead of simply being mezmerized by the flowery, mellifluous delivery.
When you say he is unelectable they quite naturally cringe and blame the messenger. Like attacking a guy who told you a tornado was coming. They are so enamored, so gullible. Yet, that will all change before the convention. Media gloves are being “forced off” by the HRC and Republican folks who do not trust Obama.
Time will tell!

O’burned out on Obama. Spinning out on the spin. I’m sick of the speeches, the rhetoric, and the slime. And you’d think I was talking about the Clintons.

Mike, the fact that you just determined my concern is some disguise is proof of the issues within our campaign.
You are right, we’re not on the same team. I want to see Hillary elected and you just want to bash Senator Obama.

Democrats better get out of their Obama-induced coma and realize he will not win in November. Mike is absolutely correct. I keep asking why Obama? All I get are platitudes. My friends covering the race from the front tell me Obama is an empty suit, doesn’t know the issues, and that Hillary is by far the smarter and better choice.

Real truth is all you have written is your opinion, which is entirely worthless.You might want to look at the Daily Gallop Polls and try to understand what they are telling you.Gallop and others including who you work for might want to stop spending money on polls if they are as inaccurate as you indicate. Are you saying all Polls on electability are smoke and mirrors? Or, are you in the kitchen getting Obama a beer?

What is wrong with you people? Our economy is hemorraging jobs, over 1 million homes are facing foreclosure, our privacy is seriously compromised by wiretapping, and our troops are embroiled in a conflict that has lasted longer than WWII! Yet, the only thing you folks can talk about is Jeremiah Wright! Did Obama make those deplorable comments? No! You people make Obama sound like an undercover Taliban agent that will take down the United States.
We have serious issues in this country to deal with and Wright is not one of them. It appears to me that “white blue-collar” worker is ready to vote against their own interests again based on the posts. First, it was Reagan and affirmative action. Then, it was Gingrich and black mothers on welfare. Next, it was Bill Clinton’s lack of ethics and abortion. Then, it was gay marriage and stem-cell research. Now, it is Jeremiah and his outrageously stupid comments!
I thought the slavery that black people went through was bad. I am starting to see that the way Republicans can manipulate the base emotions and prejudices of “white blue-collar” workers may be even worse. You folks need to wake up! It is not white kids and black kids dying in Iraq, being displaced by illegal immigrants, and being poorly educated; it is poor and lower middle class American kids!
We are all in this together.

cc4obama
So now you say Michelle is a racist?
I admit that it is becoming increasingly difficult for me to remain civil with fellow democrats who are so quick to throw baseless charges out there.
Hillary’s warped sense of ENTITLEMENT to the presidency has spread to her supporters. Not only are you guys coming up with your OWN rules for what winning the nomination should be, but you are just as eager as republicans to spread rumors that Obama is some racist closet muslim who has wanted to nuke America since he was in kindergarten. It’s just sad.
One thing we can agree on is that no matter what happens, the democratic party will be split in two. On one side you’ll have Obama supporters, and on the other side you’ll have status quo supporters who won’t know what to do in a world without a Clinton in charge.

‘I have heard on the cable news channels black guests saying Rev Wright’s words were snipets taken out of context so last night I heard CNN was going to play the entire text. I was anxious to hear the TRUTH of his message.To me the complete sermon was worse than the selected text of ones that they said were taken out of context.I felt just maybe he had a message of God’s Love and sending his sonJesus to die for all peoples sins so we could have forgivness I heard nothing but Hate message with no Love for God and our fellow Americans.
I feel much sympathy for the black people that sit in churches listening to hate messages and damatiomn of our country rather the Love of God and forgivness of our sins to each & every one of us regardless of color. The black people have gained much since the Civil War and the heavy disrimination in the years that followed. Along comes Martin Luther King who stood up for the civil rights of the blacks but now there are the Black churches preaching hate instead of Love of God for all people, We have a long road to travel to heal the race issues.This past summer I vised Martin Luther King Museum in Atlanta and I felt the pain the blacks must have endured by the discrimination and felt Martin Luther King had done much to unite us all. I live in the North close to Chicago and there are many blacks in my community that get along with each other. I could not imagine a church preaching this hate dividing us more. I think we have failed Matin Luther King.
I am a white democrat 70 plus year old female and my vote will not be given to Barrack Obama.If he gets the nomination my vote will be to John Mccain because I know he loves this country and only love for everyone despite the color of their skin can hear our divisive issues.Not because Obama attended this church for 20 years but because in 20 years he did nothing to unite the pastor and 8000 members of this church. He just sat in the pews listening to these hate messages and no action was taken to heal the members. He did an injustice to the black members in this church
. This has made me a disbeliever in his Hope and Change message to unite the country and it has in my opinion divided us further.

Bonnie, was that broadcast online? I would love to get the link.

Here’s the link to 9/11 sermon.
http://odeo.com/show/17889043/4/download/Rev.JeremiahWrightsControversial911Sermon.mp3

It’s a tough call. Hillary Clinton may have a point. Many of the posts here are simply unrealistic. Since the Wright controversy, Obama’s numbers have plunged. He is now trailing McCain by 7 in the most reliable polls, Rasmussen. His unfavorables are at historic highs (54%). He is behind McCain in Ohio (outside of the margin or error) and is trailing McCain in PA, NJ, the south, FL and runs evenly in Michigan, Colorado, New Mexico, etc.
If the election were held today, McCain would beat Obama, though no one knows what will happen between now and November. There is more risk to Obama than many are willing to admit.
But again, no one knows what the political landscape will be like in November when it counts.

Thank you for this article!!! I really think if this race had Hillary up she would be forcing Obama out of the race. I believe the race is already over. It’s Obama’s to lose.

Here is Obama’s Resume/Quals – You Decide:
• For 20+years Obama is friends with anti-American, racial radicals like his anti-American Pastor and a former Pentagon bomber – Weather Underground William Ayers and another radical Louis Farrakhan
• Obama knew that his church gave life time achievement award to Farrakhan who says ‘Judaism is a gutter religion’ and also knew that his pastor visited Lyba’s terror monger Gaddaffi.
• Obama is endorsed by New Black Pather Party which is an extremist hate group
• Obama voted “Present” to a bill that would stop “Adult Porn Shops” from opening up next to our children’s schools
• In order to come clean he threw his grand mother under the bus. Compared her private statements with his pastor’s public bashing of America, Called his grand mother (who raised him) a ‘Typical White Person’. HOW LOW can you GO?
• Lied to American public on national TV that he was never in the pews during the anti-American, non-patriotic statements made by his pastor an in his ‘great speech’ agreed that he was in the pews.
• Michelle Obama says: For the first time in her adult life she is proud of this country and AMerica is a mean country.
• Obama made statements about NAFTA in Ohio to fool the voters and provided behind the door assurance to Canada that his statements should not be taken seriously.
• Obama is involved with Tony Rezko for years even after he knew all about his corruption and ties with the UK’s corrupt businessman who helped terrorists. He admitted recently that Rezko contributed 250K for his presidential bid and not 60K as told by Obama earlier.
• Obama does not wear American flag lapel pin, he does not believe in holding his hand on his heart for national anthem.
• Obama requested $1 million in federal funding in 2006 for University of Chicago Hospitals where his wife, Michelle, was a VP and her salary went up from 121K to 320K within weeks

Here’s what Rasmussen had to say about New Hampshire the day before the primary. We all know the outcome in that one.
Rasmussen Reports
1/6/2008
N=1203
Barack Obama 38%
Hillary Clinton 28%
John Edwards 18%
Bill Richardson 8%
Dennis Kucinich 4%
Not very reliable but then again…all of the polls were wrong in that one. The only polls that called that one right were CNN and News7 Suffolk polls.

Although I voted for Clinton in the NJ primary, I will support Obama in the General — enthusiastically. The Wright controversy will fade, while the economy, unfortunately, as it tanks, will takes its place prominently with Iraq as the major issue. At that point, the average voter will fully realize the bill of goods sold by McCain and the Bushiites and vote accordingly. The election will be close, but Obama will eke out a victory.

here’s a news flash. Hillary made a speech on a future housing plan today in Philadelphia; what’s so strange is that it is so similar to the memo Obama sent out March 2007 to Federal Reserve Chairman and Treasury Secretary. Hillary has a lot of gall and what she banks on is the American people not reading…

This is a great article for those interested in an objective analysis of the Jeremiah Wright comments.
http://www.counterpunch.org/wise03182008.html
To this day the most disturbing thing I’ve seen isn’t the reaction of the Clinton supporters that have viewed the out of context sound bites of Jeremiah Wright but rather the fact that the Clinton camp served up a man that they knew was neither racist nor anti-American.
Doesn’t matter if you agree with me or not…the fact is anyone that listens to those sermons can clearly tell the subject matter was intentionally clipped at points where only part of the message would be heard. When I first heard just those comments I was infuriated and blamed Dr. Wright for derailing the Obama train. However, having heard the sermons in their entireity (and maybe the Clinton camp has not heard the sermons – I doubt it because it seems Maggie Williams has heard them – some of her friends are members of Trinity) I am convinced that someone is intentionally deceiving the American public on this issue. It could be the Republicans and not the Clinton camp at all. The latter really isn’t that far fetched.

With all the confusion that’s caused by democratic proportional voting and super delegates, wouldn’t you think somebody (anybody) would be calling for change? Now why do you suppose the silence is deafening?

Couldn’t agree with you more Elijah112668. No one stops to think that Hillary may not be the reason why the Rev. Wright’s sermons are nothing but sound bites!! I could actually care less how the man feels. He is certainly entitled to be mad at the white race having come from that generation. That however is not the point. The way I see it if this can knock Obama off message and rattles him that easily what will he do in November against the republican machine. And for that matter what happens if he wins and becomes president? If this can rattle him what about another 9/11 God forbid!! I mean its not like he didn’t know that this was going to surface and if there was nothing shady or mean spirited about the pastor then why did he ask him not to give the invocation at his rally to announce his candidacy. Talk about politics as usual!!

What is White America Afraid Of?
My question is…..what is White America afraid of? I myself, being raised in a white family have wondered that question since I have been old enough to think…..What is the white man afraid of if a black man is in power? Why does the white man feel that the only way he can justify themselves is by oppression?….I.E. police brutality, discrimination in the workforce, laws that target one specific ethnic grp, ideas and concepts of fear floated to the public, and alot more, these are just a few examples.Watching this election and the reaction of some bloggers and ppl in general….I always come back to what is white America afraid of? There has to be some type of fear of something happening to them…..that is the question I would like to know…..Is white America afraid that if a black man is in power that we will make slaves out of them? That they will no longer be thought of as supreme? and if so, why would you desire that anyway?So, again my question is……..What is white America afraid of if a black man is in power?The floor is open…..I really do desire to know!!

I too have managed many campaigns.
He is ahead on popular, delegates, and number of states, but perhaps most important to super delegates, he is way ahead on raising money, the lefeline of politics.

Obama’s campaign touts his electability by stating he’s won more states and is ahead by delegates and popular vote. He’s only ahead because Michigan and Florida are not being counted. In November, it will be.
Obama supporters also say they don’t want to see another Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton scenario. Bush Jr. wouldn’t have gotten in if Gore and Kerry had the cojones to fight the discrepancy in votes.
Obama hasn’t proven he can win the key states that can win the election in November. It’s the electoral college, stupid.

This kind of broad brush, shoot from the hip analysis is what we have come to expect from the lesser punditry. Just about every state by state analysis shows that Clinton runs ahead of Obama in electoral votes in the general election. Check out SurveyUSA for the latest. If only Dowd had bothered to do the same.

Agreed. Obama is still the superior candidate for the Democrats, not only for the upcoming election, but for bringing along the Dems in 2010 and 2012. Clintons simply leave too much damage in their wake.

If we are to believe either candidate, neither one is fit to be president nor commander-in-chief.

All you Obama fools think he is more electable?
He is getting crushed in the general election. Check it out. The numbers dont lie
http://www.electoral-vote.com/

I hate to tell ya, but the Fl. and Michigan situation has turned many democrats off. And if Hillary doesn’t get her delegates, I will never vote democratic again.

Do you think that Hillary isn’t dealing with Gender prejudices? And a few others? I resent the fact that because I think her to be the better candidate that you are saying that I am prejudice. I assure you that I am not. I also assure you that because of the ugly words that I have found all over the internet by Obama’s constituents, I will not vote for him if he wins. I will vote for the real Independant candidate, Nader.

Hillary has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peal. Save yourself Hillary… please give it up.

Obama, a member of the American hating “Klan Wit A Tan” for 23 years is toast.
If Obama actually becomes president, then racism is no longer bad.
Of course Democrats never considered anti-white racism bad in the first place. But now the truth is out. Screw the Klan with a Tan. With their drop out rate we need burger flippers and bigger jails.

Turku Wren is Absolutely RIGHT ! Forget these 2 Puffballs as squeezy-soft, and good-vibish as they make you feel…VOTE NADER for REal Change. Otherwise, bury your head in the sand, and cry for the nation you said you loved.

Do not worry Democrats. There is no way a Republican can be elected to the White House in 2008. The GOP knows this and they are giving up McCain just to get him out of the way for good.

Obama has proven his words are hollow and his association with underworld figures is appaling. You are judged by the company you keep. Obama has long term close association with: Rev. Wright, Farrakhan, Ayres, Resko and supported the PLO and Malcom X and won the endorsement of every muslin group in the world and the Black Panthers. If Hillary or McCain had the white version of these associations they would be impeached from the senate and no longer in the running for president. Ms Ferraro was indeed, correct !!!

Obama is the best example of hypocrisy that I have seen in politics. He preaches change, no more politics of old and is seeking the vote of black and white alike. In reality, he supports and endorses the Rev. “GD America”, Wright, this is not a change for the better. I am ashamed of Obama, he should drop out of the race and win the election for the democrats.

I will never vote for someone that endorses anti-America, hate of the whites and racism. Every time I hear the name “Obama”, the words “GD America” comes to mind. If I can’t vote for Hillary, then “hello” McCain !

If Obama is the nominee for the dems, it will be the biggest landslide win for the republicans in history. Karl Rove has discussed the election considering Hillary and Obama. If Obama is the nominee, Rev. Wright will be all the republicans need to win. Imagine the campaign commercial with Obama and Rev. Wright with “GD America” and the other lies and examples of hatred and racism. Enough said…

As a pro-choice conservative that believes pulling out of Iraq is the wrong thing to do, socialized healthcare is a terrible idea, and shrinking the GDP of our country is not the way to recover our economy, I feel like I need to clear a few things up.
I will not vote for Obama no matter what. Not because I am racist or he is black but because I believe his stated policies would be a disaster. Not everything will be fixed if we all start hoping again. Giving good speeches should not be a presidents greatest attribute. You will not fix all the problems in the world if we all just sit down and talk about it. I find it hard to believe that fewer democrats learned this from Jimmy Carter.
I will not vote for Hillary no matter what, not because she is a woman or because I am sexist but because I think she is wrong. I believe she would be a better president than Obama but not by much.
I would gladly vote for someone of any sex or color if I agreed with their stated beliefs. We are not choosing someone to give speeches for the next 4 years but someone that will have the strength of character to make the right decisions even when they are unpopular.
Republicans are voting for Hillary not to support her, but to drag out the democratic primary. This is a good thing, if this had not happened we would know less about Obama and where he comes from.
I don’t really like McCain, not because of immigration or campaign finance reform, but because he has supported legislation that I consider censorship.
I can’t decide which would be better, McCain winning to prevent a disaster in the middle east, or Obama winning so that after four years of Jimmy Carter 2 we can get a politician that may finally stop the erosion of our liberties.
I know I disagree with most of you on here, and I’m not asking you to agree with me I’m just asking you not to attempt to take my rights away.
The truth of the matter is that Obama, Hillary, and McCain are far to similar. Whether its the right trying to outlaw abortion and porn, or the left trying to outlaw guns and “hate speech” (read Free speech). I hate having to choose between the lesser of two evils.
I welcome all civil conversation, however please remember I have not insulted you I just disagree with you.
Flame on.

Middle America will NOT vote for Obama. In fact, they will vote for whoever is running against him. Obama can only carry the black vote in the midwest. I just don’t understand the dems plan to run him this year. seems to soon! The media is out of touch, as usual.

Really, what does it matter at this point – hillary shmillary, bobama rama…
McCain will win. The damage is done. And wait until the Republican machine has their way with Obama – I can already see the films now, of Barack’s radical upbringing, two years in Muslim school, association with radical blacks, and on and on. Yes, most of it BS and exaggeration, but the average voter won’t see it that way.
Why are you people wasting your time posting??? Its OOOOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEERRRRRRRR

If we let this nomination be about race, we are stupid.
If we let this nomination be about Bill Clinton, we are stupid.
If we let this election be a web blog conversation instead of a campaign to win, we are stupid.
If we lose THIS election to the republicans, we are blithering professional A-lister STUPID!
They could run together and the Democrats could have the White House for sixteen years. Any Democrat who can’t work out what kind of real change that would be shouldn’t be in the Democratic Party.
It isn’t hard to be stupid but it takes practice to be good at it. I know is sounds stupid, heck it is stupid, but wow, stupid moves that give us the White House for 16 years vs stupid moves that give it back to the Republicans after the last eight?
How stupid can we be before it qualifies as brain-dead?
Well, you have to pick your stupid moves too. And wow, can we be stupid in the Democratic Party!
He can’t win the general election. She can. Together they can run the table and show in one election the power of the right choices by people who REALLY DO hold the good of the country above their own.
Now THAT would be REAL change.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/

“The Clintons will say antything and do anything to regain power. The record is clear with Nafta and other major policy blunders, who gets the short end of the stick,WE DO!!No thanks Hill & Bill.
To vote for McCane is a another six years of Cheney-Bush. DO WE WE REALLY WANT THAT?? NOT I.”
Uhm how is voting for McCaine another SIX years of Cheney-Bush?

If you don’t live in Ohio don’t presume to know why we voted the way we did. We voted for Senator Clinton because her knowledge of the issues is vast. She presents those issues with affordable, and workable solutions. I dare ANY Democrat to go hear her speak and tell me that you find a flaw. I went to hear both of them, and she beyond impressed me. He was great to hear too, but didn’t cover much of the issues or his plans. A big reason Ohio voted for Senator Clinton is her plans to create jobs with investing in alternative energy sources. Another is the mortage crisis. Senator Obama doesn’t have an answer for that ( or at least he didn’t at the time.) She wants to make govt. grants for schooling more affordable and lower interest rates. Her program SCHIP helped insure millions of uninsured children, and she is on her way to universal health care. These are the issues. Let’s stop making this about one candidate in the Democratic party. Both are good. If we have issues with one, we need to swallow our pride and remember anything is better than a Republican. People who voted for Clinton were not mis-lead, or lied to. Let’s stop being ridiculous.

HILLARY in 2008 !!!!!
OPRAH in 2012!!!!!
GIVE ‘EM HELL, HILLARY!!!!!

I am really surprised at how much the media has treated this whole democratic campaign season. I am a democrat and proud of it, I also really liked the clintons till they started going down the unthinkable path of uncivilized, half truth campaigning. What a shame? If all this continues, I am one democrat that will stay home in November for the first time ever!

Obama is finished. If his advisors had his interest and that of the party in mind, they would present the argument for him to take v.p. He cannot win crucial votes –white men, sub 50k earners–in the rust belt, and his associations will put NJ and NY into play. At a minimum, he will be forced to spend real money there. Hillary will probably ruin him, and as a newcomer with a limited group of defenders, he will be removed from the National Scene. By taking the VP, he will help forge a winning ticket, and secure the public relation protection of a unified party. I do hope his advisors present this argument in stark terms.

I believe behind Obama, he is working for Republican and Muslim. Republican, muslim, and media are supporting them to get nominated, and he will step down to McCain. He knew that he has no way to win the WH… but he can damage Democrat part, give Republican open door to DC. That’s why he won most of the caucus polls because the way of caucus voting any one can above 18 can joins. That’s why he claimed young Reps switching to vote for him… Beside, he did not win any big states???? come on people, get real, the Rep wants him to be nominated, so McCain can have free ticket to WH. In addition, how can U.S. have a President who had used drug in the past???? This is asham… He is worse than Bush….people.
Hate America… Believe Obama CHANGE WHITE HOUSE TO BLACK HOUSE>>>>

OK, first of all, I am getting tired of the lies that S.B. is spreading about the FL and MI re-votes. Senator Obama is not opposing do-overs. It’s the local parties and legislatures that can’t get their act together. Hillary didn’t make any noises about seating them until it turned out that she needed them in order to have a chance of winning.
As far as current general election poll numbers go, they are essentially meaningless this early in the race. Michael Dukakis had a double digit lead over George H. W. Bush in the summer of ’88 and we all know how that turned out.
Once we have a nominee and John McCain has to start talking about the economy and Iraq, those numbers will change.

Please people, a poll is a poll is a poll. Polling results often change throughout a campaign but they are used as a barometer of where things stand. The super delegates will be looking very closely at the question of electability. With that said I’d suggest you check out this electoral college poll, in particular the McCain vs. Clinton map and the McCain vs. Obama map. You’ll see that Hillary has the edge at this point.
http://www.electoral-vote.com

I am thinking this…
just wait unitl Pa…
and then Hillary will have won
New York, New Jersey and California
Ohio and Texas popular votes…
by wide margins by the way,,,especially in Cali, Ohio
and then in Pa…she will basically end Obama’s completel strategy among
the major swing demographics
In a word..the ONLY demographic that is still voting for him are the urban folks and some seagulls…[that's an austin power's statement by the way college kids]
and you know what…
its over for Obama…sonora’
he can take another trip to the virgin Islands w/ his beautiful wife and family ..and
we can go back to running this nation
and the nightmare will be over..
if he wishes to take Howard Dean..
that’s ok too..
maybe the Florida dem party would invite Dean to check in at the local Miami hotel
where the drop to the parking garage…
is quite…a long way down from the 11 th floor of the nice beach front motel…
got it dean? you’re on the spot dude
and its called the spirit of the american revolution is alive and well
and average people do NOT like to have their votes disenfranshised…
and having a another “short guy” complex running this national party
is going to end unwell …
“there will be blood” is the title of the movie…today
and it’s not too far off …if Pelosia and Dean don’t stop taking millions of voters votes and treat them worse than their star buckian drink
containers…
sometimes art DOES imitate Life
and i have to say…with Danial Day Lewis…
“there will be blood”

I am a black women and will not vote for Obama (probably the only one). I think his explanation on the Rezko situation shows that he is just another dirty politician that will lie, lie, lie if it means his election to the White House. He is a tremendous speaker and will out talk anyone who tends to disagree with his philosphy on any issue. Did he register when he turned 18? How did he vote on the war with weapons of mass destruction? I know he voted “present” on a lot of important issues because I think he knew that he would eventually run for president and did not want the voters to know he supported some of the Bush administration misdeeds. But voting present meant that he straddled the fence and did not take a stand and that means to me that he is the typical black man who will not commit.

I think either Clinton or Obama will win in November. The cards are stacked in our favor. The republicans will break out the attack machine, and this will be the perfect time for the Democratic nominee to say “Enough. Stop distracting the American people. Every time the GOP raises some irrelevent issue, they’re counting on the American people to be distracted from the recession we’re in. Distracted from the war we shouldn’t be fighting. Distracted from the lack of attention given to the problems regular Americans face everyday.” This will be effective, but only if the nominee is effective at saying it. When Obama talks, people listen, and people trust him to do what he says. You cant say the same thing about Clinton, who polls show is not trusted by 53% of America.
The fact is, the cards are stacked in the dems favor. I think if these cards are played sucessfully by Clinton, she’d win by flipping Ohio and possibly Florida, but is limited to this because she has a very real ceiling of support. I think if Obama plays his cards right, he could win in a landslide, 60-40 perhaps, by flipping key swing states such as VA, CO, NV, NM, NH, and Iowa, to name a few. If he doesn’t, were looking at another replay of 00 and 04 where McCain walks away with FL, OH and maybe even PA, and wins the election.
The one thing we can do right now as Democrats is stop saying “If Obama/Clinton get the nomination, I’m voting for McCain! And I’m emailing the DNC to tell them that!” I used to be one of these people. I dont like Clinton at all, and probably never will, but I will vote for her in November, because Im worried about the direction this country is going and really believe that a democratic president is what could reverse this flow. Do we REALLY want to give George Bush the satisfaction of thinking his presidency was affirmed because the American people chose a GOP successor? Please, think about it.

I’m an independent that leans Republican, and I have to say I’m sick to death of hearing how Hillary wants to make Michigan and Florida’s elections count. Hello, people! She busted the handshake agreement not to campaign in Florida (Victory party in a non event?) and Obama’s name wasn’t even on the list in Michigan. Here’s another news flash. The reason she won Texas was because thousands of Republicans turned Democrat for the day and they believe that if Hillary wins the Dem nomination, that McCain will have a jump start – because too many people will vote for anyone but her, and all of Obama’s dedicated are likely to go McCain’s way too, given the Clinton campaign’s scorched earth tactics. Congrats to all you Democrats. You’ve managed to take a No Lose Situation in November and are managing to turn it into a No Win, with the Dem party fractured, possibly forever. You all deserve another 16 or 20 years of Republican rule. That’s your reward for incompetence and Hillary’s sense of entitlement. You want to really get the Republican vote out in November? Let Hillary steal the nomination.

The ‘electability’ of a candidate in November?
If the World Series were held every April the Cubs might actually win one. Unfortunately for the Cubs and the candidates there’s a heck of a lot of ground to cover between spring hopes and the last out.
Senator Obama and those of us on the ground running out every ground ball and covering the bases appreciate that common sense approach to electability.

“Electability” was a term invented by the media and political pundits. It is MEANINGLESS. Used by a campaign’s supporters, its ultimate message is, “My candidate is gonna win and yours isn’t.”
Any political candidate with MONEY and the ability to buy MEDIA TIME is “ELECTABLE”. Obama, therefore, is electable – and crushingly so.

Obama will win in the general election.

First of all, the word is “glean” not “gleam.” Secondly, Folks are not seeing the fact that many, many Clinton supporters would vote for McCain, not Obama in the fall, if that were the choice. Thirdly, the pounding that has occured about Rev. Wright, his associates, Barak and Michelle’s patriotism is NOTHING compared to what will happen in the fall. And it won’t be from Mr. McCain, it’ll be outside people. In the end the irony is that it’s Obama who is not electable.

hAfter reading all the comments filled with lies and hate, I now know why this country is in the sad shape that it is in…..because of all you hateful, mean, people. What ever happened to “love one another”??? What is the matter with you people? With so much hate in your hearts and lives, how can there be any room for “love”? You dont need to worry about who becomes president, because with the current level of hate that you can feel coming from these comments, we will become our own “worst enemies”….we wont have to worry about terrorists….

believe theat the Republican party is laughing with glee and saying let them destroy themselves by attacking each other, they will air their dirty laundry , and the voters will come to us, ITS CALL DEVIDE AND CONQUOR , the only difference is the Dems. devide and the Rep. conquor, the election is not for the nomination to run for President of the country , it is to be elected President …Do people really think that because Rev White marry the man and dedicated his children , that he swallowed his political views . or sat at his feet for his political thoughts. We have seen how words have been taken out of context “typical white” he could afford to say that because the truth is that I have seen it hundreds of times not with the younger generation but with the older white generation , but this does not reflect where our total soceity is today . I have crossed the street myself. and there are some places I will not be caught walking after dark , and this is wether you are balck, white or yellow , this is in some white, black, or hispanic neighborhood it has nothing to do with with colour. LETS VOTE ON THE ISSUES , THIS IS THE ONLY THING THAT WILL CHANGE OUR NATION.

Hey BO supporters, don’t vote in the general election if Hillary steals it.
Hey Hillary supporters, don’t vote in the general election if OB steals it.

Ohio and Texas already prooved that spending 2:1 more money not always generate a win.

The only question is how badly Obama will lose in November. He can’t win this election That’s a fact. The Democrats are managing to throw away another election. Im here in Pennsylvania…I will vote for Clinton. I can tell you that in November..given the choice between McCain and O’bama…this state will go Republican and the election will be lost. Oh…I guess you O’bama folks think you will make it all up in Wyoming!!!!

Obama promised not to run, but then ran. (For that matter he promised to take public campaign funds, but then didnt’t.) Basically, Obama does what he’s told to do by his handlers, whether it contradicts what he’s said he would do or not, whether it’s good for the party or not. It’s nice that so many people feel something crawl up their legs when he speaks, but in the end the job description is leader, not community organizer who gets other people fired up and who does what he’s told to do. You bet the Republicans are laughing – because they’re going to win in November..

McCain keeps the Bush tax cut, pushes 100 years in Iraq with no exit plan, continues the crushing economic programs, his associates are reviewed, Bush endorsement, 200 million for big business welfare and web videos. Should be a great election!

McCain keeps the Bush tax cut, pushes 100 years in Iraq with no exit plan, continues the crushing economic programs, his associates are reviewed, Bush endorsement, 200 million for big business welfare and web videos. Should be a great election!

Personally I am a registered Democrat but never minded crossing party lines to vote for the best candidate so I think my view is pretty fair.
I voted for Bill Clinton twice (President) and Hillary once (my State, NY Senate). But not once because I absolutely believed in, loved, or agreed with them.
For me, electability depends on who’s running. Some seem to believe in the Clintons because of their past victories, but I remember voting for each of them, each time, simply because they were the lesser of two (or more) evils.
During his first presidential election (way before Monica Lewinsky) Bill Clinton was being accused of some improper sexual behavior, but that became invisible compared to the mishandling of government and recession by the first George Bush, so we voted for Bill. The second time our choices were either Bill again, Bob Dole, or Ross Perot (Bill of course, this one speaks for itself).
With Hillary it was the same thing. We didn’t exactly love Hillary in New York, but we certainly were not about to vote for Rudolph Giuliani who was in a storm of controversy for his excusing of the NYPD for police brutality in the streets and because at the time he was in the middle of an investigation into a member of his family possibly being tied to the Italian mafia!
Yes, I’ve voted for the Clintons in the past, but If I were in an accident and the doctor tells me that I can either choose to cut off one of my toes now or cut off my entire foot later, Id probably vote to have my toe cut off at that moment too.
I think Obama is more electable simply because he’s seems to be a pretty honest good candidate. He answers the toughest questions with honest answers and has never been personally a part of any major scandals. Whenever any of the others opens his or her mouth they are pushing back their tongues to keep the bones from falling out.

Barack Obama Isn’t Being Tested. White
Americans Are Being Tested.
We have ourselves a real learning opportunity right now in this country.
And the test is not about Barack Obama. The test is about WHITE AMERICANS. I don’t know if we (white Americans) are going to pass it. But it is almost divine, this test.
Barack Obama is only a man of his times. He can not change those WHITE AMERICANS’ hearts who will seek out excuses to rationalize their bigotry, their fear of people of color. He can not do that. As I said, he is a man of his times. And so we are about to learn a lot about these times, aren’t we?
If white Americans are looking for a reason — no matter how irrational or how great the double-standard may be — to justify their bigotry, then they will find their reason to justify their bigotry.
Barack is not the one being tested here. It’s white Americans who are being tested, Really tested.
How white Americans respond to this “clean” (Joe Biden’s curious term), brilliant African-American man — who has labored for those less fortunate because he so believed in this American dream, who has played by all the rules his entire life — how we respond will be revealing.
For as Barack Obama gets closer and closer to putting his hand on the door of America’s big, boastful promise of equality , we will learn a lot about our fellow citizens and all about that PROMISE OF EQUALITY that we all love to brag about.
Will my fellow white Americans judge this man on his character, his life’s work, his good soul Or will we look for excuses to lock that door as he approaches? Will we grasp for any quick rationale, no matter how pathetic it may be, to grease our consciences?
How will we deal with this very good man, this faithful husband and father of two beautiful girls? Do you really want to know this decent and inspiring All-American family?
Will we concoct new standards at the last moment for him? Will we participate in ugly gossip with our neighbors about this biracial man of color?
Yes, we have ourselves here a real learning opportunity now. It’s a test for the whole world to watch.
And the test is not about Barack Obama…
THE TEST IS ALL ABOUT WHITE AMERICANS!

Mark wrote:
The one thing we can do right now as Democrats is stop saying “If Obama/Clinton get the nomination, I’m voting for McCain! And I’m emailing the DNC to tell them that!” I used to be one of these people. I dont like Clinton at all, and probably never will, but I will vote for her in November, because Im worried about the direction this country is going and really believe that a democratic president is what could reverse this flow. Do we REALLY want to give George Bush the satisfaction of thinking his presidency was affirmed because the American people chose a GOP successor? Please, think about it.
Mark,
George Bush knows his Presidency is the worst in history. My staying home on election day will not alter that one iota!
Perhaps you are a better person than I am, However, I have always tried to live life honorably, and fairly. Equality has always been important to me, still is.
Yet, I have been insulted so many times on blog sites, called a racist, a bigot, ignorant, too old to matter, and showered with many other ad-hominem lablels by Obama supporters, simply for trying to point out the reasons that I have supported both Clintons for 16 years. I have never in turn labeled an Obama supporter anything. Never!
I have also watched in disbelief as the Obama campaign, DNC so-called “party elders” (who have less years as a voting Dem. than I do), so-called “party leaders”, etc. have tried to turn the Clintons into racists and any of us that support HRC. We are “dumb typical white people” who simply cannot see the “light”.
I am fed up with the insults, the tone of the Obama campaign, and the Obama supporters. I would never under any circumstance ally myself with people who seek to degrade others, simply because they do not agree with them.
I will never vote for Obama. Would not vote for Clinton/Obama ticket. I will run the rest of the primary course with HRC (donations, volunteering), continue on if she is the nominee. However, when she is done, so am I. I will leave the Democratic party.
The Democratic party is no longer important to me, my country is! I do not trust it in the hands of Obama, Axelrod, Howard Dean, the too far-left “Move-On” folks, and sundry others. The DNC and the rest know Obama is controllable, just as Bush has been. They also know HRC is not. This far-left wing of the Dem. party is foreign to me, and I see it as a mirror image of the far-right Repubs, that I find so revolting.
So if HRC is not the nominee. I will keep my vote, stay home, and try to influence others to do the same. That will be the only way we can make it known that “we truly did matter”. I will let you and others make the nation’s choice.
I voted for Gore and Kerry, both times I got “stuck” with Bush, thanks to the lousy management Donna Brazile, Bob Shrum, and other DNC “elders and leaders”. This time will be no different, if Obama is nominee. I will be “stuck with McCain or Obama. But, just as with Bush, my hands, and my conscience will be clean.

Reverend Wright
Tony Rezko
Florida
Michigan
Can’t win Big States

Barack Obama, is quite possibly going to be the next great Historical “Heretic”–he quite well, might be in the company of others like Aristotle, Newton, Gallileo, Luther, King, and those, who challenged “Popular Conformity”, in order to revive “Free Thinking”.
Sadly, I am of the beleif, that now is not Barack’s time–if he wins the Presidency, he will be inhereting an American-created mess, of Biblical Proportions. Obama, is simply too good, for us, (Americans) as at present, we do not deserve him or his message of unity and hope. I think, we should allow Hillary Clinton or John McCain, to fall with Rome………then let us, usher in Socrates (Obama) to re-build the Senate, under the correct restorative processes needed to revive the Constitution. I think Barack Obama, can and will restore the rights and privileges to the American Commoner, when America is deserving–after we experience the coming cataclisms of failures. For at hand, is the next “Great Depression”–Technically our Government is Bankrupt, with the Chinese carrying our debt. And they will unload that debt as a result of U.S Space Communications interference–it is a matter of time, before the U.S and its arrogance towards “Space Treaties” in which we have igored for 30-years, will tip the U.S over the edge with the Chinese, who will retalliate by unloading our debt. We have yet, just begun to see the fall of Rome–but it is coming. As such, I would rather see a Clinton revealed in Roman truth, when that day arises, rather than watching Obama struggle for an ungrateful nation. By December of this year, the real earnings reports will show, multitudes of Corporate melt downs and Chapter 11/13 filings. The Real Estate Markets will competely collapse as will the value of the dollar, plunge to the abyss of our failure to stick to the Gold Standard. Futures contracts, such as Hedge Funds, will short the Stock Market and the next crash of Wall Street is around the horizon–the likes of 1929, will be two-fold. The War in Iraq, will revive from Al Queda supporters along with Mujahideem Muslims who sympathize with those who oppose American presence. When China goes into Tibet, and the Bush/Cheney Administration is revealed for using “Spy Sattelite Technologies” to disable Chinese Satellite Communications, we will be facing yet another War front in which we cannot afford financially or militarily. I don’t want to see Barack, inherit this set of events, which will happen–better to let Clinton or McCain, suffer the wrath of thier own swords–they failed to hold the House of Representatives to debating Resolutions backed by over a million American signatures on a Petition (877) such as, the petition of Impeachment of Bush and Cheney–the Senate failed to adjudicated properly, both “The Patriot Act” and “Homeland Security”–legislation which was neither natrurally or scientifically jusrisprudent in its Constitutionality. McCain and Clinton should be held accountable……….eventhough, they will claim to have inherited it from those they will blame–Corporate America, Bush/Cheney and those who stupidly supported the wrong Christian ideology. Nonetheless, as “Figureheads” of Togas, while arrogantly waving the “Monroe Doctrine” in one hand, while yielding Ol’ Glory in the other (like some Saturday afternoon Collegiate pennent), Hillary and McCain should suffer their arrogance and intentional abuses of contributor, Charles-Louis de Secondat, baron de La Brède et de Montesquieu–the fabric of “Distibuted Powers”–which is the mechanism of Democracy.
I would add this……………for those who condemned both Senator Obama and Reverand Wright of recent times–you are those in essence, responsible for what is about to happen to this country, and you, get to carry that burdon. To you, I would say:
Barack Obama, is no different from you or I, who’ve heard people slander America, while in fits of rage or frustration–maybe even in the calmness of concience or self-reflection. Maybe you lived a charmed life, in which you have had things come easily to you, and as such, your life has had little tribulative events. It’s not for me to say. But, when people who have had a history, of being lynched, beaten by cops, hosed with fire hoses, and beaten by mobs of Whites with anger, for merely the color of thier skin,(in which they have no control over) there exists a “Double Standard” in sympathy–not empathy, for unless you are Black, you cannot empathize. These things I mentioned, were of very recent times–the 1960s. Racism today, is still very much alive–it is merely masked by pseudo-acts of accepted tolerances, superficial and wrought with mutterings amongst herd members, where walls have no ears. It’s mutterances, are reduced to mutual treaties of “censorship”, in which both Senates have no natural jurisprudence–hypocrisy without Legal Writ, hypocrisy without self due-process, hypocrisy without revelation, is hypocrisy forever. To mute the child’s ears, for the lies we hope to quelch, is to deny the revelation of truth, for we deceive each, by the self-definition of “truth”–what truths then, shall we tell our children?
Today………….Blacks in America, have strived to separate thenselves from the Main-Stream society–no one can argue that, and in some instances, I am sure if Martin Luther King were alive today, he would dis-avow many of his own culture, for being so anti-establishment. However……………..the Black Culture, until recently (30-years) has not had the opportunity of “Finding Peace”, through thier own self-identity. Do remember, that for most Whites, we have tradition, heritage and histories, in which most of our family’s members, weren’t lynched, beaten or abused by Police–those sworn to protect all people. Is the media partly to blame–of course. It characterizes Blacks (in the movies) as either Sports or Entertainment Stars, Criminals, or “Uncle Tom” like “yessa-massa” types–Hollywood, has a long and illustrious history of falsely stereotyping cultures and people–the tails begins to wag the dogs of cultural enigmas. The emergence of “Ebonics” for instance, is one example of the Black Culture, seeking its own identity–for too long, they were forced into adopting the White Culture’s practices and traditions–identifyable by thier Slave Owner’s forced teachings and mandates. So, again……………….though we Whites, might not like the broken, and sometimes, silly mis-usage of the English Language, we cannot hold Blacks nor their culture, in contempt, nor thier efforts to find thier own identity, which are both rightful and acceptible. And who are we to judge anyway–we, Whites?
My next point, in regards to Reverand Wright, is simple–the 1st Amendment. Now, I could sit here and spew my personal opinions about what Wright said–and I have for many hours of recent times, spewed quite a lot. Quite frankly, I am tired of arguing my point with people of little education or substantive thinking. I will say this……….the 1st Amendment, is all that separates a Democracy from Socialism or Dictatorship, or any other form of governing in which “censorship” is used as a tool, to prevent unpopular ideologies or disussions–albeit to force “censorship” would be to deny the very heart and soul of Democracy. Popular Social Conformity–in Adolph Hitler’s times, he used false propaganda, to set the “Popular Theme” of “Prosperity” through the use of the War Machine–to bring a Depressed post WWI Germany, into Socialized Prosperity–exit-visa Aristocracy, enter Socialism–the Nazi Party. Censorship was defended by Hitler, in which he used violence to quelch dissenters, while using the German Parliament, to change Laws in which the Genocide of all races not of the “Master Race”, was masked–the hidden government’s agenda. But, for Hitler to gain “Absolute Powers” as a Dictator hiding behind the guise of Socialism, “censorship” was in fact, his greatest weapon, in which his S.S (police force) enforced forced conformity, through murderous deeds. In America, we have the 1st Amendment, under which, multiple rights and privileges are enumerated: Speech, Religion, Assembly, Press and Petition. Our Democracy comes directly from Socrates and Greek Philosophy–Socrates, by the way was executed for “Treason” eventually by his own Senate–most agree, it was due to “sedition”–he said the wrong thing, and they executed him–”censorship”. Eventhough, he was the founding Father of Democracy, his own invention led to his innevetible demise. My point………………is that without our freedoms of Speech, idologies of social betterments would cease…………..the Constitution in general, our Government, and its people would cease to own a Democracy. Whether Reverand Wright said something offensive or intentionally seditious, or simply spewed silly or factually incorrect nonsensical mutterings, it/they, should not be subjected to “censorship” nor social, nor legal condemnation of the man–lest ye be Anti-American and Anti-Democratic in your condemnations. In other words……………..you cannot call yourself an American with Democratic-driven pride, while you condemn a fellow Countryman, for exercising his 1st Amendment Rights. You can, think what he said was silly, or you can, say, “What a Bone Head”. But, you cannot go so far, as to condemn him or those he preaches to, for being innocent bystanders–Barack Obama for instance.
The factual acts, versus the mutterings of ideology–we should as a people of Democracy, shun the man who speaks his mind, while we adjudicate the lack of his actions, in the due-process of the courts of “Public Hypocrisy”? And those who seek to destroy a man of ideology, while carrying the Free and Noble flag of Independance, should look in the mirror of self-reflection with eyes of a just Patriotic soul? I would say to you Sir, that your actions, (censorship) brought ideology to the Public Jury of contempt–while blaming the orator of ideology for your seditious acts–censorship–an abomination of Democracy. For once your disagreement and “censorship”, takes the form of an action, factual relevence replaces ideaological orations. Reverand Wright’s rantings, were mere idologies until the actions of his opponents lay claim to them, by thier hypocritical deeds–censorship. So, in fact, those on Fox News such as Mr. Hannity et al, in thier actions of condemning Reverand Wright for his ideologies, and then smearing Barack Obama for not having dis-avowing them, they (Fox et al) created factual “censorship”–a far greater violation of Democracy. Hypocritically, Fox News et al, revived a dorment ideology and creating negative actions in which caused a social unruliness. In essence, Fox News, acted aggregiously in-contempt of the Constitution and our Democracy’s most sacred protection–forced “censorship”. As a member of the Media (Fox et al) no less, is even more guilty of Un-Patriotic acts, in its degredation of its own “Free Press” rights–also under the 1st Amendment. In other words………………….we as Americans, can say, “I want to kill you.” But, until you actually do so, it is not proof or evidentiary justification for adjudication, under our Constitutional Protections–jus prudentia. Imagine if you will……………the future,(Fox News et al invoked censorship) where all Americans, have to watch every little thing they say, as it might be considered “treasonous” or “seditious”…………………we would not have enough prisons to hold all violators. As such, the Law difines Sedition, as “Sedition is the crime of revolting or inciting revolt against government. However, because of the broad protection of free speech under the First Amendment, prosecutions for sedition are rare. Nevertheless, sedition remains a crime in the United States under 18 U.S.C.A. § 2384 (2000), a federal statute that punishes seditious conspiracy, and 18 U.S.C.A. § 2385 (2000), which outlaws advocating the overthrow of the federal government by force. Generally, a person may be punished for sedition only when he or she makes statements that create a Clear and Present Danger to rights that the government may lawfully protect (schenck v. united states, 249 U.S. 47, 39 S. Ct. 247, 63 L. Ed. 470 [1919])”. In not one instance, in any tapes of Reverand Wright, did he advocate the overthrow of the U.S Governement, and as such, Fox News, and those who condemned Reverand Wright, in fact………….should be held libel for “Slander” and “Intentional Defamation”, as Fox, was neither a member of the U.S Government or any of its agencies, in which, it may skirt behind the “Suspension of Habeas Corpus”. Wright, was fully legal and within his 1st Amendment Rights to have preached his ideologies (thoughts) in which Fox News, et al, put into action through thier intentional acts of “censorship”.
So, whether Reverand Wright was right or wrong in what he said, or whether Barack Obama was present when those things were said, is irrelevant. Both individuals were exercising their 1st Amendment Rights. True American Patriots, must not and cannot hold harmful, those who exercise their 1st Amendment Rights–lest ye yourself be Un-Patriotic, and tried by the Senate of Hyocrisy. Fox News and Mr. Hannity, in fact, through thier activities, did openly commit “censorship” a violation of Obama’s and Wright’s 1st Amendment Constitutional Rights, through the use of the mass-media, to inspire others to join in thier conspiracy. Therefore, Fox News/Mr. Hannity, are in violation of “seditious acts”, as thier actions caused a breach in the Democratic Processes of Elections–the brood of Democracy.
In conclusion………………..­I would like to present to you, (the Reader) some basic historical facts about “Heretics” and the word “heresy”. Without those who challenged/challenge authority, through oration, writ and or the assembly of followers, Mankind would never grow in its knowledge of science, politics, theocracy, or social Law. One of my favorite people of all times…………….Martin Luther, in 1492 challenged the Roman Catholic Church (with which he was a Monk and Professor of Theology) with the idea of “Papel Salvation”–purchasing “Redemption” from the church. Not only did Luther challenge the Catholic church for its sales of “Sin Forgiveness”, but he went on to believe, that the only way for the Individual to truly find God, was through their direct relationship with the Scriptures–the way to God and Salvation, was through meditative and private prayer. Luther, is the Father of both Lutheran and Protestant theology…………….along Catholic reformations. Any other Christian sect, who encourages its congregation to own a Bible, have Luther to thank for that privilege. Luther by the way, was bannished from Germany and fled to England, where he died in poverty and in-debt. Here is a more known figure, when talking about “herrassy” and “Heretics”……………..Jes­­us Christ. Jesus, not only challenged Roman controlled Jerusalem, but also, the Jewish Hierarchy. In fact, he did so, with the specific intentions, of forcing those factions, into crusifying him, so that he may achieve the final act–The Martyr. Some uniformed and ignorant Christians today, refer to (Yehudah) Judas Iscariot, as a “Traiter”. They are simply wrong. Judas, was Jesus’ best Friend and most trusted Disciple. Jesus specifically asked Judas, to turn him into Roman Soldiers, for 30-pieces of Silver, knowing that Judas, was the only one he could count on, to ensure his Cricifixion went as planned–God’s plan to allow his only Son, to die, so that we may live–eternally in the kingdom of Heaven. Again………….Jesus and all his Disciples, were “Heretics”. The point is, that Jesus said, and did things, that the Romans (Herod/Pontius Pilate) and Jewish Hierarchy forbid both in Legal Writ, and in Jewish Law. Few know, that Jesus specifically preached against the Jewish Hiercarchy and Roman Empire, while living in the open–not in hiding. For a “Heretic” to live back then, in the open, was suicidal. Jesus, also specifically ate with his enemies, while preaching “acceptance”, “forgiveness” and “tolerance”–the basics of ALL his teachings in which today’s Christians for the most, have selectively forgotten in thier misuses of their faith, to encourage Wars, through Political bias. Additionally, after Jesus’ crucifixion, the Roman Catholic Church, began to dissintigrate……………..­­..Pope Alexander the VI ( Roderigo Llançol) for instance, was known for hosting orgies with multitudes of Prositutes. Additionally, the book of “Thomas” a Gnostic Christian Gospel, conveniently disappeared from all versions of the New Testiment–as well as the Book of Judas. So, sedition, and “heresy”, is and has been an intrical and necessary aspect of Humanity’s matriculative process. Nostradamus, was a “Heretic” and so was Aristotle, Newton and Galileo………….all Fathers of Chemistry and Astronomy.
My final words to the Media, and more specifically, Fox News and Mr. Hannity……………..can you prove, without a reasonable doubt………….that the U.S Government, is not “God damned”, or did not introduce AIDS/HIV to the Black Culture in America? In other words………………..if you stand in judgment of what others say, (not necessarily do) and then you go the next step, in condemning those who hear those things said……………….can you with factual proof, disclaim those statements–while you yourselves, claim the same 1st Amendment Rights? That, is the basis of Social Rule called “Law”. Law, is supposed to protect that which is said, versus that which is actually and factually acted upon–Social Order. Unfortunately, we live in a society of factual misrepresentations and condemnations for those who say things, versus those who act upon them. When you seek to cover your ears, you are in fact, adjudicating, your own interpretations of facts from fiction–you are taking on the rights of God’s Law–the final “Adjudicator”. Hate the message, but don’t hate the Messenger–something those at Fox News (Mr. Hannity), CNN (Mr. Dobbs) and others, should consider, before they create social unruliness through their abuses of their privileges–the mass-media. When those who operate within the 1st Amendment, purposely create factual ambiguity with the intentions of damaging others who equally have rights under the 1st Amendment, it is not on Un-Patriotic, but should be tried in thier own Professions Court of Hypocrisy. I hope you (the REader) will consider, my writings, when you seek to condemn with “censorship”, those in which you disagree–condemnation through “censorship”, is most certainly far more Anti-American, than the rantings of a Black Preacher with negative historical life experiences. And, Barack Obama, a “Constitutional Law Professor” using jurisprudence as his guide, cannot without hypocrisy of oath or philosophy, condemn anyone for thier usage of their 1st Amendent rights and privileges–he can disagree, but he has the rights, as does anyone in America, to choose his chruch, religion, peaceful assembly, speech and press. Until you or others, can show court cases, criminal processes and or, evidentiary proof that Wright specifically broke the law, or aided and abetted in criminal acts, in which another person was denied his Constitutional Rights, (as a direct cause of his preachings) then your condemnations are biased to your arrogant emotional being, versus Social Rule (Law) or pelprudence.

Compared with some leader we had in the past and the current in the office right now, Hillary is so qualified to be a President of the United States. How many of you think that you are so perfect in public service that never make any mistake now and then?
Just look at Obama, he has not been known before the primary until now, how many blunders he has made just for a short time? It amuses me to see Obama’s supporters try so hard to put this not-qualified guy out there to make a joke of himself!

Reading some of these posts one can begin to understand some of Rev. Wrights statement. Racism in America is strnger than ever. People need to look at the opponent, at this rate McCain will win and the Bush regime continues.

If Hillary wins it is because some one helped her – Obama is trailed by Oprah, Kennedy, Kerry, etc. How much of his lead is due to these folks and Axelrod the campaign manager who is packing this inept man?

OBAMA IS AN EXPERIENCED “LIAR”.
Obama said, “I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill.” — LIAR, Obama’s bill was rejected by his own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation — mainly because of Obama’s Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came. He has told too many lies! Remember, Wright, Farrakhan, Ayers, Rezko, among others?
Obama’s supporters would cover the world with smoke and mirrors to try and make Barack Hussein Obama look good, regardless of all his lies and ties to radical anti-Americans. Obama could butcher a kitten on the White House lawn and his followers would try to make it look like a good thing.
I imagine some of the people who have already voted for Obama would like to change their votes! Obama, along with Dean and Pelosi, are destroying the Democratic Party. They say we have 48 states … not 50.
Hillary ’08!

MORE LIES FROM OBAMA:
A new ad by Sen. Obama running in Pennsylvania falsely claims that Sen. Obama does not accept money from the oil industry. In the ad, Sen. Obama says, “I’m Barack Obama and I don’t take money from oil companies or lobbyists and I won’t let them block change anymore.”
AS USUAL, OBAMA IS LYING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. HE HAS NO CREDIBILITY!
SAY NO TO OBAMA!

some folks would prefer that country fold than vote for a biracial man for president. It’s a shame the rev wright controversy was nothing but a scape goat for them to hang their hoods. Hilary isn’t perfect either but haven’t heard the same kind of hateful racially charged blogging against her, just a group of prejudiced bloggers going story to story and spitting out hate, call these people on the carpet when you see this, ask them are they prejudice, let’s spread some love and for these addicts to admit their problem.

OBAMA HAS RUN HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN ON LIES!
WILL WRIGHT SPEW “GOD DAMN AMERICA” FROM OUR WHITE HOUSE?
What is the most important “right” granted to U.S. citizens? THE RIGHT TO VOTE!!!
A GROUP OF “POLITICIANS” (including Obama) ARE TAKING IT AWAY FROM MILLIONS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN!!!
WE NEED TO COUNT THE “PEOPLE’S VOTES” — NOT THE “DELEGATES”.
IF OUR REPRESENTATIVES DON’T LISTEN TO US — WE NEED TO VOTE THEM OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
WE DON’T NEED A RADICAL, ANTI-AMERICAN IN OUR HIGHEST OFFICE. OBAMA HAS TOLD TOO MANY LIES. He has too many anti-Jewish, Anti-white, Anti-American and terrorist friends and associates.
HILLARY 2008.