Hillary Comes in Second in Wyoming

And the spin goes on. Since when is a 23 point loss a moral victory? Was it a moral victory for Obama when he closed a 20 pt gap in Texas to a virtual tie? Or does the argument not hold water when its pro-Obama?
Goodbye Clintons, we’ll see you in the history books

I wonder if the Clinton campaign is going to consider getting 28% of the vote in Mississippi a great success? By this methodology, does she believe that the economy is booming? Was President Clinton talking about her campaign when he uttered “…fairytale”?

But… let’s not be too harsh on Jake
the real and maddening bias towards Hillary is over at CNN and it’s getting worde every day now -
their whole article about Obama’s win tonight is about quoting the Clinton campaign; not a single word from the winning team.

Oh c’mon. Of course they are going to say that. Give them a break.
In any case with 8000 people voting I don’t think its relevant for anyone to claim an extraordinary victory, especially in Cheney country.

Hillary wins the big golds and picks up the small silvers. She still leads in the overall popular vote after Wyoming. She will prevail in the popular vote, which is a great basis for the SuperDelegates to cast their votes; the good of the Nation for the good of the States! Clinton/Obama ’08, or Clinton in ’12, you choose.

JT, you are doing a good job.
Please don’t listen Obama supporters are dilusional, just like their leader

I think that Trapper is making a joke with that title actually.

This is all what I don’t understand: there was not blow-out in Texas. In fact, Hillary Clinton was SUPPOSED to win Texas but Obama managed to get really close in the end AND to end up with more delegates but the media is treating the squeaker as a crowning of the queen. I don’t understand.
But when Obama wins a state by a HUGE margin, well, it’s all right, he was supposed to win, and Clinton really did better than expected (she lost by almost 30%!) so everyone celebrate because she is rolling on to victory.
I was watching news most of the day and all I heard was continuing slams by the media against Obama and raves for Clinton. They were even showing newsclips of her touting her vast experience–why isn’t anyone looking more closely at that experience and exposing it for the lies it is? And now everyone is telling Obama he has to descend to her level, he has to get tough, he has to become smarmy, too. I with the others who simply don’t get what is going on in the world–and with the news media in particular. I thought they were supposes to be balanced?

There’s more bias at CNN than at the Drudge Report these days. For CNN Obama’s win today is an opportunity to let the Clinton campaign have their say; not a from the winners.
Now look at Drudge. In big fat capitals, main headline:
BARACK IS BACK; WYOMING VICTORY
Victory, that’s the word!

Wyoming is the state where Bill campaigned; Hillary herself campaigned and Chelsea campaigned.
When I take all that into consideration, I agree with Andrea: Hillary did pretty well taking second place.
Some folks actually voted for her.

Here we go again with the Obama clan, if you all would sit and think about it really hard you will see that if your candidate cannot win in states like TX, NY, California, FL he has no chance of winning this election.
The people do not elect our president its the electorial college that does that, so before you all celebrate sit and think if Obama can win any of these states above.

Jack,
Ok. I dont have to convince you of anything. I don’t know what the legal reasons are for trial dates being moved around. I am not going to hold that piece of information as the ultimate proof of Hillary’s evilness.
And I am more than happy to disagree with you on this.

You read these posts and Obama’s campaign has some of the most hateful bloggers I have ever seen. This Obama campaign of HOPE is not very nice.

As a Canadian watching this race unfold, I find the way Hillary downplays loses in ‘Small’ States and hanging her hat on ‘Large’ State victories.
In the end, if Obama wins the nomination, won’t Democrats come out an vote for him no matter how he did in a particular state during the nomination war??? Everybody says he can’t win the big states, but Democrats should be supporting their own in the general election no matter who the nomination is. That seems to be why Hillary’s arguement that he can’t win the big contest seems pointless.
Also, I think Hillary needs Obama more to be her VP choice than he would ever need her. I can’t see him choosing her if he wins the nomination.

shellray,
I easily see through your post. What’s inetersting about the HRC movie is that it was made by the Clinton’s most trusted adviser, who credited by many with engineering Clinton’s re-election to the Arkansas governorship after a humiliating defeat at the end of Clinton’s first term, and who was was a principal architect of the Clinton-Gore re-election strategy.
That is BIT different from all the regular smear campaigns in politics, I’d say. VERY different, for example, from some weirdo’s publishing anti-Obama clips on the Internet.

The shared delegates in Wyo is not far off for Hillary. The fact of matter is, Hillary is winning in bigger blue states where concentration of democrats are. Obama wins in small red states. For sure Obama will not pick up those states come general election if he is nominated. Let us see the map and accept the fact that Hillary is more electable than Obama. Be practical and see the movement where voters want.

Jack, with all due respect I am 52 years old, not a kid, and I had the very best quality of life during the Clinton years. All I am saying is Hillary has been the most investigated and vetted politician on the planet. If she were a murderer or pure evil, all the money in the world would not save her from prosecution.

Jon, think twice. It is McCain who can’t win these states.
And think for a moment about the huuuge gap between turnout numbers for McCain and Obama.
As Limbaugh and others on the Republican side said: there’s NO WAY good old McCain could stand up succesfully against the Obama phenomenon. And everybody knows that, expect the fools under the spells of the Clinton spins.
She is ALREADY toast, Jon, so you better move forward.

Thank you Jon at least someone understand the point I was making

Hillary worked the State of Texas for decades, yet on the eve of March 4, 2008 had no clear expectation of a victory. Hillary barely squeaked the popular vote. And, many candidates have won Ohio, but lost the general election. “As Ohio goes so goes the nation.” Hillary only pleaded with all those unemployed Ohioans for a job herself. The tide has ebbed for Hillary. Casper, Wyoming: so ya’ll just moved right out here on the prairie, ah, Bill always tells me as a boy how much he wanted to grow up and be a cowboy. Uh, if ya’ll vote for me I’ll, um, see about appointing more rodeo riders to … more top level positions:

Obama won…and those who say “If he can’t win a big state…you are not very good at math and aren’t really familiar with the numbers(Hillary doesn’t get as many big margins as Barack does in the many states that are really going to be the make or break…) Hillary’s “big state wins” are so close that if Hillary would win them in a general …so would he…
You all need to go familiarize yourself with the real issue states and the ones we need to challenge with a John McCain opponent. Plus the large defection of republicans to the dem side of the fence (and say what you will yes those are people who aren’t blinded to “The Clinton Dominance” ). Barack kicks a## in that field against McCain…those are the states that he trounced Hillary… Ohio (and maybe Penn) will be the only ones that are really big swing states and if you look at Republican numbers in just the primaries you will see the republicans are already not definitively counting on those…but they will be trying to poach states like Connecticut (barack won)… and we might even be able to go after Georgia… a broad coalition going into Congressional races …
What can cost us the election are three things…
Superdelegates picking over the people – we lose a bunch of support
Hillary empowering their base and bringing all the baggage that is going to come with her so called “vetted ” LISTS.
and disenfranchising Michigan (unfortunately for this party more than Florida because we come close without it) …We need to redo both.
So stop with the Barack has to beat Hillary in the big states… 1-5 points against another democrat doesn’t make a difference for either candidate.

The fact that Lady Macbeth never went to jail doesn’t proof that William Spakespeare’s character was an innocent woman.

Dl you are missing one point Obama wins are wins that its a well know fact that person crossed the floor to vote for him.
Obama camp has been making robo calls to republicans to come out and vote against Hillary, he has been filling their mail boxes with fliers asking them to be a democrat for the day, then they can go back to being a republican.
This is not really a convincing win is it, exist polls have also showed the percentages of republicans voting for Obama against Hillary, so how can any Obama supporter stand up and say he is going to beat McCain in a GE.
He cant make those robo calls in a GE he cant depend on the republicans dislike for Hillary then, they will all then vote for MaCain to be president they will vote party then, the game will be over for Obama, that is a serious problem and one which honestly he brought on his self

WestCoastMessenger: Do you have any idea when the Florida re-vote would take place? I saw a recent poll that was conducted in Florida and it showed that if the primary were held again Hillary would win by almost the same margin as she did before.

… but it shows us what a difference it makes to be in power when committing crimes. A lot of Shakespeare is all about that.

Jay sorry I don’t have the link I did watch the program it was good a mind opener, but am sure someone will have a link of it on the net soon, it was too good to not notice.
Strange that it took FOX to bring this out while all the other media houses seem to be sleeping and will wake up after the election.

It’s obvious that no one will get the nomination through unpledged deligates… so the spin war has started in earnest. HRC is great at that… I don’t even know if BHO knows that this is a new game. He needs more than just to say he has a majority of deligates… if he wants to be on top of the ticket, he needs to do some major convincing to the Supers that he can “close the deal” with McCain in November, something which he could not do to a wounded, weakened Hilary last week.

obama believing that winning the caucuses in the red states means he can win in november is just sad. what it means is that he figured out a smart way to exploit the stupid way howard dean set up the system of awarding delegates, a way that gives those states more influence than the states that the dems absolutely must have to win a general election. basically, he’s trying to win the nomination on a technicality. interestingly, the argument about those states that his campaign is making to the superdelegates is that they will be helpful to “down ballot” voters. for the young obamaites who may not understand the significance, that means they know the superdelegates won’t be conned into thinking obama can win those states, but they’re trying to sway them based on their self interest – e.g., you’re a congressman from x state and if i get the nomination it’ll be good for you. nothing unusual about that – politics as usual. but, of course, obama claims to not be the usual politician. and more importantly, it represents an unstated acknowledgement by the obama campaign that he knows he could never carry those states. his supporters, unfortunately, have much disappointment in front of them.

Ya know the funny part, both account fro about half the demoractats Hello Mcbush :-) why dont we just hant it to him now and stop all this fighting and go on with our overspending and perfect world relations. Another 4 proud years of being a hated american.

I agree.
Does anyone know how to reach McCain? If so, call him and tell him to get his suit ready, because he is headed for the White House.
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!

Hmm…. Why should hillary give up and Obama not? are they not in the same game… So if hillary is destroying the party isnt obama too? Last I checked there were 50 states and 2 territories that vote? your not supposed to finish the race? So the rest of the people should not get a vote either right ? he won a few she won a few the rest should go to hell wait in the same logic with florida an MI right … LOL and you guys are screaming fair all the time lololololololol.

Hannity will have a special on Obama Sunday night…should be worth watching!

The Hannity and Colmes Sunday special is a right-wing conspiracy.
HaHaHaHaHaHa!

chasseur, you are so right about how he got his start. dirty tricked his way into the state senate, and in the process did a terrible dirty trick job on a good person who was his friend (and said he felt bad about it, get me a kleenex!). then dirty tricked his way into the senate. and now trying to dirty trick his way into the presidency. he forgets, however, that in a general election, the other side gets to tell people about all his dirty tricks. and on network tv, not just blogs and cable. and when more and more people get to see him for what he really is, his self-applied halo will tarnish in a hurry. i look forward to it.

How do you think “dirty” was able to get this type of network coverage, when the truth about Hillary must be posted on the internet?
Oh, I know.
Because the story about Hillary is not true, and since the story about “dirty” is, it has been approved for network television.
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!
P.S. I’m sorry guys. Be patient with me. I’ll learn how to get with the program.

Thank goodness hillary supporters are home from work.. I get tireless defending her on my own when i arrive home too. I wish I got to sit around and post negative mudslinging misleading links and propaganda all day… But us blue collar workers ya know, we cant rely on mommy and daddy paying our tuition and room and board, so that we can part all night and blog all day to become educated:-).

The Clintons will always be “number two” in my book!

Now seriously do you really think he is ready for this . SNL just did another spoof on Obama freaking out at the white house and calling hillary at home at 3:am.He needed to know what to do. It of course was funny but also scarry —There was much truth to that parody . Wake up American people !! Our country will be run by all kids and two minorities. Help!!!

Wait a minute, WYOMING, isn’t that the current VP’s home state? Those are the people that sent him to Congress that started this whole, weird chain of events. Those are some tough Republicans out there. I wonder how many of the Republicans were at the Democratic caucus voting for Hillary’s opponent. Hmmmm, I wonder if the sheriff made them stack their guns outside before the voting commenced?

Clinton/Edwards indeed… Lady Macbeth and Richie Rich? I don’t think so. Clinton is much too smart to do that. If the Super Deligates give it to her it will probably be on the condition that Obama is Veep. If Obama is picked, he will pick another woman or an older statesman or general… Westley Clark, one of the junior Kennedy’s or maybe he can entice Collin Powel.

Nice title ;)
I would have thought, a little closer would have been…
“Obama wins Wyoming, 61 – 48″
“Obama wins landslide victory in Wyoming”
“Obama wins twice as many delegates in Wyoming”
(at least 7 to 4, +1 add-on delegate)
Or… we could even go out on a limb :)
“Clinton loses by wide margin in Wyoming”

CLINTON COMES SECOND IN WYOMING. SO WILL CONTINUE TO BE SECOND UNTIL THE FINAL. BUT SHE WILL NOT EVEN BE A VP.
OBAMA WIIL CHOOSE SOMEONE ELSE BUT NOT HILLARY.

Jennifer,
As a Republican… Clinton/Edwards would be a dream ticket for us. We hate her and we can point out that Obama was lynched by the DNC. As for Edwards… how does he bring anything to the ticket? He’s your version of our Romney. Limited appeal and disliked by many of his own colleagues as a snippy badger. So, this is just for you…
Go, Go, Go!
Clinton/Edward 08
Clinton/Edward 08
Clinton/Edward 08…
Rah, rah, rah!
Happy!
Happy!

The fatal problem with the Clinton’s strategy is that she needs to convince not just the voters but also the superdelegates and those tactics are different. Getting air time on SNL and manipulating the media and spinning a loss into a win may help get more regular voters votes but that won’t work with the superdelegates. The supers know what is going on and they see the reality. Eventually they will end this and send Barack Obama to the nomination.

The fact that 5000 people’s votes gets 12 delegates is the problem and that most of these people had to wait hours for their votes to count.
This was not an election, nor were any of the caucuses. There is no developed country in the world that would call this democratic. I have been to nominating delegate selection meetings in other countries. You show up, you cast a ballot. Yes the party pays not the state and yes its about a 4 hour window not a 12 hour window like a general election, but its a show up cast your ballot, for your nominee and your delegates affair.
This has to stop its absurd. You can have a ballot box and a meeting. You dont have to make people sit through a meeting to cast their votes.
2.2 million voters in Florida and Michigan with no delegates and 5 thousand with 12 delegates should be your headline.
Or how about the average turnout in primary states versus this turnout yesterday, a record by all accounts but still less than 10% of registered voters.

The hatred, the invective — largely between fellow Democrats. It’s got to end. Regardless of who you support realize that attacking your “opponent” doesn’t convince anybody, it just alienates – and motivates – the partisans on the other side.
It used to be that most discussions of the merits of the candidates ended with “but I’ll support the Democratic nominee whoever it is.” Now more and more are saying “I’d vote for McCain over Hillary” or “there’s no way I’ll support Obama after this.” Sad for the Democrats. Good news for Rush, Ann Coulter and the rest of the right wing manipulators. Who’d have thought that after eight years of Bush, the Iraq war, huge deficits and an economy in recession, a Republican has a good shot at the Presidency?

Jennifer,
Need to check and see if it is an open primary or Caucus before you make any suggestions that there were Republicans voting for Obama. Republicans are just as good as Democrats and want the best person – in their mind – to win. Whether Clinton or Obama get the nod from the Democrats, the differences between the Republicans and Democrats this year is clear.

Who will Edwards give his delegates? total 26 i think

Jennifer,
Confused about the race baiting statement. Please explain.

Save your breath Democrats…
McCain will win the election in November and all this blabbering will be for nothing.
Cast your vote for a real American who is interested in realigning our country and shoring up our borders and our foreign policies.
McCain in ’08!!!

Hahahahahaha !!!!
Fired up as another second place expecting for CLINTON in MISSISSIPPI. ON,ON WE GO.

Hillary is a 15 state LOSER!!!
15 state strategy!!! against McCain???
Are you kidding?????

Hey ! LarryB
I strongly disagreed with your notion. How many blacks and whites have been voting for the Clintons???? This is not race card. Even now there many blacks who do not support Mr.Obama. It is freedom to vote for whom you like and trust. So it is not about racism. Check it for yourself: How many whites states OBAMA has won so far? That is the you question you should answer, LARRY B.
“A hint to a wise is quite sufficient.”

While the Clinton campaign is saying that the ticket of Clinton/Obama would be hard to beat,Bill Clinton would always be a force to reckon with.He is still speaking in divisive terms he speaks of Obama getting the blacks for Hillary and Hillary getting the older white and blue collar worker for Obama.Obama has not ran his campaign on these terms.It should be an Obama ticket with whom ever he wants.I believe that with Clintons on the same ticket would not be a good ticket because if you are truly running for change there would not be change with Bill in the picture,you can see they are running their campaign the old deceptive way. While she is touting her expeirence on lies of what she has done while she was first lady but not wanting to releas her papers to prove this fact makes me very suspicious of her.Even to get her to release her taxes has been a big deal.She acts like the small states that Obama has won don’t mean anything and as soon as she believes she is not going to win she dismisses them and off she goes before the votes get started good.They are using the point of Obama running together with her to get some of his votes now.

Hillbilly has had a part in everything good that her hubby done don’t you know that by now>>>>If you don’t beleive me ask her ,she will be the first one to tell you so.>>her 35 years are living off the people of this United States I would not trust her for one minute she will stab you in the back and laugh.She ca lie with the face that looks ta you and says who me????????

This “democratic” process with the party choosing the candidate instead of the people sounds a bit Putin-esque, doesn’t it? Will the 08 Dem slogan be “Power to the Party” ? This puts the 2000 and 2004 general elections seem tame and normal.

The evil-twin sister of Aunt B will be way behind in delegate and popular vote even after Miss(Obama), Penn(Clinton) N.Carolina(big Obama) He should never give in to her because he will have both the pop and delegate leads. A florida do over is Clinton but Obama has Michigan. He leads into Denver and his people should never give into Clinton–I know I will not. It is Obama or McCain for me–Obama first.

damehen, I agree with you. By the way…doesn’t matter who the vice-president will be since in essence the Clintons’ will be a co-presidency trivializing the vice-president’s role. Independents and Republicans know this will be co-presidency. I think Hillary’s supporters are either in denial or fear stating as much because they know this is is something that leaves a very bad taste in the mouth of all non-Democrats and I suspect non-Hillary supporters as well. I would ask the media to ask Hillary specifically to lay out what role Bill would play in her adminstration. Many folks want to know whether this will be a co-presidency.

I must admit that I’m getting tired of the news pundits not denouncing the argument that Hillary can win the “big” states. It may be true that she has won them again Obama, but the real question is who will win them again McCain which is a completely different situation.

I believe all the hub-bub is for nothing. There are 2 states that will decide the democratic nominee….Florida and my state..Michigan. Too bad “we the people” can’t decide, but it’s been that way for 8 years. Politics or the courts will decide who wins….again. I didn’t even vote in the primary, there was only 1 candidate on it!!What a joke this election is!!!

If I have to choose between Obama and McCain in November, I will vote for McCain.

Obama also claimed he won Nevada and Texas when majority of peopel from those states rejected him…
He just cared about his delegates rather than the will of people as he pretended..

There is NO way that Hillary could win the election without Independents. Unfortunately for her, most of the Independents are for Obama and she has completely dissed us. We will all willingly vote for McCain to keep her from being elected. Once again, poor planning on her part. And just another reason why she’s “NOT READY” to be president.

61% to 38% that was one of the worst showings for Hillary.

The notion of a Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton ticket is absurd. As an independant, I will never vote for any ticket with Clinton attached. Everyone I know feels the same.

To spin the loss this way is just another example of how arrogant the Clinton campaign is. There is never the least bit of humility or honesty. What has happened to America that we have become so low to even consider this type of behavior as being acceptable?

Again, Obama has to win PENN to prove he not just can only win red and black states… If he can’t do it, that will be a fatal weakness to people, the Hillary’s supporter will beat him to death on this because:
1. Neither dems can win red states (even Bush did sweep all of them in 2004);
2. the most of blue states (the base of dems) rejected Obama;
3. The battle states like Ohio, Florida, Penn also rejected Ohama..
Rep will make fun of these if Ohama face McCain: Ohama was even a loser on his own blue states and Ohio/Penn/Florida in his Dems primary, how can a loser be trusted….

Janet from NH…As a fellow Independent I agree….Democrats need to realize that 40% of this country will vote Democrat no matter who the nominee is. 40% of this country will vote Republican no matter who the nominee is (after all George W. still has 32% who actually believe he is doing a good job). 20% of this country will wait to make up their minds. My feeling is that a majority of these folks are fed up with both parties and have been for a very long time. After all how could Perot get 19% of the vote in 1992? My feeling is, when Clintonism is exposed during the campaign as it surely will, be McCain will come out on top. I truly believe that Democrats (particularly the Clintons) are taking this 20% of voters for granted thinking that they somehow have become good Democrats because of their dislike for our current president. Republicans would love to run against Hillary because they know McCain will be able to sway the majority of this 20%. I could almost see the campaign commercials…Backup voice states simply some people have nostalgia for the “good old days” as the screen scrolls with endless Clinton scandals and ends with Impeachment procedings….McCain comes on and simply states “sometimes the good old days were not so good”…Hillary/Bill are easy targets for Republicans….And when they strike back as most assuredly they will (as evidenced by this campaign) they will turn off Independents.

Once again America is being misled . This time with the eloquence of one very young naive candidate. The country will be run by kids 18 to 26 and 2 single minorities. What a mess. The young candidate’s reputation in the state senate shows he does not deliver– “no bold or creative solutions” is the opinion. He was voted to that position because his opponents were wrought with scandal. Now maybe its his turn because he is not ready. He just is not ready.

Once again America is being misled . This time with the eloquence of one very young naive candidate. The country will be run by kids 18 to 26 and 2 single minorities. What a mess. The young candidate’s reputation in the state senate shows he does not deliver– “no bold or creative solutions” is the opinion. He was voted to that position because his opponents were wrought with scandal. Now maybe its his turn because he is not ready. He just is not ready.

Hillary will loose thousands of votes when she set up the press corps in a toilet.

Nope the young voters that have never done a day of US history, or even thought one second of politics, the constitution and how the system works are the one that will be making this very easy for us to get another 8years of a Republican president.

Rita:
I strongly disagree that Florida and Michigan will decide the general election.
In 2000, Colorado was taken by George Bush by only 2000 votes. Many young people and blacks in Denver stayed home. Obama has energized Colorado voters. If Colo. would have gone Gore, it would have put him over the top. WITHOUT FLORIDA.
When are the big democratic controlled states going to get it? WIN THE MEDIUM SIZED SWING STATES. There’s gold in those electoral votes and they count.
That’s how Obama is holding his own in the nomination process. He does the math.

“I have 35 years of experience”
I go on because I lie awake at night worrying about all my people.
I will choose Obama to be my VP.
My loss in Wyoming by 22 points was a great victory.
Are these delusions of grandeur–or just dillusional?

As far as Obama winning 80-85% of the black vote. The other shoe is about to drop in Mississippi.
Clinton could win. Whites favour her there about 74-26, and that’s what they’re telling pollsters.
If whites are 55% of the vote, and they just might be, Clinton wins.
Last time the black vote made up 55% of the electorate, but they wont this time, and they only make up 35% of the pop.
Like I said the other shoe is about to drop, as it will in the general election.
Caucuses are no real indication of how a state will vote in a general.

Republicans wont vote for Obama when a price tag is put on his promises in a general. He’s a tax and spend Liberal, the most Liberal in the senate. They will never vote for him when that is pointed out, which it will be.

I agree Obama—Yikes!!! If Sharpton can come on national TV and talk nonsense about he will walk if Obama does not get the nomination all I have to tell him is two can play this game.
If they don’t seat FL/MI or do something about it, or if they feel they can ignore the fact that Hillary is winning in the states that count, we also will not take it just like that if they push her aside.

We need a president who is strong even when the country is down. It is going to be a tough ride for the U.S. for the next couple of years and Clinton has shown that she is a fighter even when things are going bad. Obama on the other hand looks weak when he is down. I would hate to have the first lady not even be proud of her country during these turbulent times.

If Obama became the democratic presidential nominee, for the first time in more than twenty years, a bunch of us would be voting for the McCain ticket. McCain and Hillary are the ones who bring the experience, confidence, and courage needed for the US presidency.

To sdnar:
Please do tell us more about all of this AMAZING experience Hillary has!!

Obama cannot win a general election because we don’t have caucuses in the fall. Clinton as VP for Obama, that must be the biggest joke. It is like John Doe as General and Gen Patreus as a LCP.

Is Obama even qualified to be VP??? Right NOW, Hillary has more of the popular vote NOT delegates. It will be decided at the convention most likely and those with short memories, this is NOT unusual. But it seems alot of OBAMA supporters are naive to our process. Bullying people to vote for OBAMA. HAVE RESPECT FOR OUR PROCESS
Arizona for HILLARY

SJ: Your brother and you have been decieved into thinking he was fighting for this country. He was really fighting for Corporate Oil! That war has nothing to do with fighting for our freedoms.

Steve ok if you say so, but my brother has been in the military for quiet awhile now and am sure he has enough sense to understand what was at stake, he is by no means a teenager that enlisted to find something to do or for financial reasons.
He is a strong supporter of McCain that is where his vote is going, so if someone had pulled the wool over his eyes am very sure McCain would not of been getting his support now.

The issue is Democratic turnout is more than twice than Republican voters turnout. Without Obama on the tickets, the Blue states will remain blue and loyal to Bush-mcCain. So Obama can win the General Election.
Remember General Election is winner takes ALL in all 50 states, so the huge Democratic turnout will sure get Obama to become the President.
Don’t forget Mrs. Clinton can not win the south because she is a woman (sorry, the Southerners don’t like Mrs. Clinton and the Blue states Mrs. Clinton will lose.
Is Mrs. Clinton a “Monster”? The answer is YES

NEWFLASH to OBAMA supporters: Hillary was supposed to win Texas? Why does the Obama camp and its supporters continue to use this message. Yes, back in the fall Hillary was SUPPOSED to win EVERY SINGLE STATE because she was known and well-respected. Those polls mean nothing now, so stop using them against her. FACT: Your man lost in Texas an Ohio after 11 victories, a fawning media, two to one spending, and more union support you could ever ask for, and HE LOST. Do you get it? He LOST. Hillary was supposed to win when this wasn’t actually a campaign, but when it became one, your man LOST! Does this matter? VERY VERY MUCH. Why are Obama supporters so in denial that his losses, I don’t care how close, matter very much. Not all of us are Obama supporters, and you need to process that. Some people even dislike him as much as Hillary, so get used to that fact too. Why do Obama supporters, more than any others, have the need to tell the American people what is the RIGHT thing to do. Such selective objective sentiments are manipulative, Machiavellian, and thus insincere. Your support gives me no inspiration to support him if Hillary loses.

“Why is there such a lack of respect for the democratic primary process by Obama supporters; this is just another example of how they care more about blindly following their candidate than actually letting other voters have their say. Its very selfish. ”
DVS, when I wrote this, I did not mean about Obama’s wins in caucuses. I mean about Obama supporters in particular not wanting this nomination process to continue. I think its very disingenous, even if they believe Hillary will not outdue them in pledged delegates, popular vote, etc, its silly. I commend Obama for any victory he delivers.

obama supporters ,please answer a couple of simple questions to ponder one.first it seems most of his surrogates this morning were saying concerning a revote for florida and michigan voters. they consistantly stated that the rules are the rules wa wa wa. how are you even called democrats if you dont want those states to revote with primarys.second exsenator dashule this morning implied that caucuses were fairer than primarys,id REALLY like that explained to me.third how do you all think obama can carry california and the southwest when latinos wont vote for him in any large numbers and you have mcain who they like due to his stand on immagraton and in california you have a very popular eco friendly moderate govenor that supports mcain.what will you obama people say if in november with him as the nominee we lose california for the first time in 20 yers.so if you insist as bill said roll the dice and see if it comes up rezko and ayers.

Dear CJ, thank you for your post. Obama supporters are literally lying when they say Republicans want to go up against Hillary. There is NO evidence for this, in fact, they are overwhelmingly voting for Obama when they do (granted, its still in small numbers). In fact, there are more Democracts (the hardcore kind, not the independents) who would prefer to vote for Mr. McCain than Obama. So come on. Look at the Texas polls. This is a myth and the Obama supporters will say anything to have their man look invincible. News flash: He isn’t and some of us already knew this last fall when Mrs. Clinton was killing him in the debates.

Between Hillary, Barack and McCain…
the “war on terror” is being lost by our image…
Who do you think we’ll be the most apt to have the biggest celebration and reunite the world on our team?
Just oput yourselves there the night of the presidential election…
Which candidate will bring our friends back to our sides and will be celebrating? …and how do we defeat the terrorists?
Intelligence… both types. Where does the CIA etc get the type that brings us info…our friends in the world.
Think long and hard on this issue… who will build a better “team” from the international community. Who will have the most support on day one from leaders’ peoples around the world the night of the election?

WAKE UP PEOPLE!
HILLARY CLINTON = JOE LIEBERMAN
TRAITOR TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

To James,
You cannot defeat hope…that’s what we get up everyday for…

Something for the superdelegates to consider if this ends up very close at the end:
“The majority of a single vote is as sacred as if unanimous” –Thomas Jefferson, 1817.

Steve said : “Hillary might be in 2nd place with the delegate count, but she is still in 1st place on the Judical Watches most corrupt politican.”
As Steve probably knows, “Judicial Watch” is an anti-Clinton right wing group primarily funded by Richard Mellon Scaife (remember him?) So, consider the source.

Thank You, John:
“Once again America is being misled . This time with the eloquence of one very young naive candidate. The country will be run by kids 18 to 26 and 2 single minorities. What a mess. The young candidate’s reputation in the state senate shows he does not deliver– “no bold or creative solutions” is the opinion. He was voted to that position because his opponents were wrought with scandal. Now maybe its his turn because he is not ready. He just is not ready.”
‘Bout time someone pointed this out in plain and simple words…
This man is NOT ready to lead our powerful nation and the only changes we’ll see are things going from bad to worse.
It’s McCain in ’08 folks…
Repub Li Can

I am so mad at Hillary for not stepping aside.
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Be as mad as you want to be. At the 13 million plus democrats who have voted for her. Mr.Obama is going to be trounced in Pennsylvania.

Obama – yikes
I like John McCain as a person… even though he is an old time politician and has a lot of people in his party that are slimy (dems probably can come close on occasion)…
The world has become much more global…people in saudi Arabia talk to people in Italy …we have 24 hr. news… social netowrking is changing the face of not only America but the world.
His experience is good in the mix because he has been around for a very long time…but politics can effect judgement. Let’s get somebody in there before that is stripped away.
Abe Lincoln didn’t have that, JFK didn’t really have that, … and yes they made mistakes…
It is as Obama says about judgement and character.
So those are your choices…

Obama did not go against the democratic party standards nor did he praise a republican and put down his fellow democrat…and he is not trying to drag the whole democratic party down with him if he won’t the nominee.
HILLARY = LIEBERMAN
WAKE UP PEOPLE…ESPECIALLY YOU HILLARY’S SUPPORTERS…DON’T DO WHAT THE NAIVE AMERICANS DID IN 2000 AND 2004 AND VOTED FOR BUSH

Obama yikes…Obama and his campaign is about change…a sincere attempt to change poltics in the face of people pointing the fingers and saying he is the same old same old…ethics thrown out the window type politics…
He represents that…even with all of these attacks (vetting” code word ethics)…You all should go watch “Mr. Smith Goes to washington” …Movie or not…it’s sentiment ios the goal and should be of the American people …for chrissake …the world.
I say again the dirty little…er…big secret in the democratic party is Senator Clinton (AND Bill) embodies that still…and that is all going to come out in the fall. When no one is speaking everyone knows that is in their heads…
Sen. Clinton knows she needs Barack for her to win against the republicans if this was to go that way. barack does not empower their base.

Yes, the superdelegates can vote for whomever they want and change their minds before the convention. But they have never gone against the vote majority before and they had better have a pretty convincing reason to do so if they ever try it. Since Obama will almost certainly still be ahead in pledged delegates (however narrowly), and he has at least as good a claim to electability as Clinton, I’m not sure how she thinks she is going to pull it off.

Does it not concern any of you McCain supporters that until the presidential nominating process began, your candidate led the Senate in absenteeism? A 51% absentee rating is not a very good record on which to build a case as an individual who is running for a job to represent all of the people.

jock59801 – I agree…and what I always say as a voter and the superdelegates is…
“If the waiter doesn’t bring the people sitting at the table the right meal …they don’t get paid.”

paul mall…I would say it doesn’t concern them a bit as long as they are running against Hillary…

If Obama wins the nomination, McCain will be our next President. So you do the math – vote for Hillary.
No doubt.
Hillary is the only one capable of beating the republican machine. Plus, every state Obama “won” in the primaries will be lost in the general – if Obama wins the nomination. It will be a victory for McCain and a sad day for those of us who really want change.

The Clinton rules to the States.
Only the big states count, unless it is New Hampshire.
Only the Blue states count, unless it is Texas (and before the final results are out).
Caucus’s don’t count, unless it is Nevada.
South Carolina doesn’t count, Jesse Jackson won there.
Missouri counts. Just not the major cities.
Virginia doesn’t count. Not big enough.
New York obviously counts. Center of the Universe.
New Jersey too. Suburb of the Center of the Universe.
Washington D.C. and Washington State? Don’t count. They cancel each other out.
Ohio? Duh.
Wyoming? Too Red
Mississippi? Too Black
Pennsylvania? Between two states that count. Must count double.

Okay….for you Democrats (I assume you are Democrats) who say they will vote for McCain before you vote for Obama. Are you serious? If you truly believe in the Democratic party why you would even consider it? Because your candidate was not nominated? Does that mean you won’t mind spending the next 4-8 years living under the same Republican rule? I don’t understand it. Why are you Democrats then? I pick on you Hillary supporters because I believe the main drive of diviseness within your party has been the Clintons not Obama. I am an Independent (former Edwards supporter). I choose to be Independent because of my mistrust of both parties. But you folks who are Democrats joined (I assume) because you had faith in the party not an individual. I cannot understand why you would jump ship just because your candidate did not get the nomination. Perhaps it is just empty talk…if it is then it is not doing your party any good…

I wonder why in NH, the party overwhelmingly voted for Clinton? Could it be perhaps they did want CHANGE? They wanted change from Deval Patrick, the governor who used “just words” but couldn’t produce results? Did they want change from 2 good ol’boy Senators, Kerry and Kennedy, who both had failed Presidential runs? There must be a reason New Hampshire voted in a huge way for Hillary Clinton? And what kind of change is it to involve failed presidential contenders Kennedy and Kerry – two of the most established old boy Democrats in the white house?

I’m somewhat confused by Senator Clinton’s rhetoric here. During her 2000 campaign for Senator in New York she “Demanded” the release of her opponents tax returns (Rick Lazio). She persued this issue quite aggressively to the point her campaign had someone dress up in an “Uncle Sam” costume and heckle Mr. Lazio about it. Now who do you think the source is here?
None other than the New York Times. The same paper that endorses Senator Clinton. Think I’m joking? Check it out for yourself. The article is titled as follows: “Plotical Memo:Stunt Keeps a Focus on Lazio’s Tax Returns”. By Clifford J. Levy, Published August 18,2000.

obama—-YIKES, I am from North Carolina…John Edwards does not want to be VP for either Obama or Hillary. He does (I’m sure) want a role in either future administration. That is why he has not endorsed anyone. He is hedging his bets…Do not under-estimate Edwards as a politician…By the way, why do you want Edwards as VP? Is it an admission that he is actually a better candidate than the two you have now? Too late to bring him back now…

I want universal health care.
You go girl!

And Zogby is a Superdelegate who endorsed Obama – wonder why all the Zogby polls favor Obama and then they turn out wrong in the primaries? Hmmmm?

Ken, I don’t know you would be confused…That is standard Clintonism….set a different standard for opponents than she sets for herself….Pretty clear to me…

Hillary Clinton is the most controversial politician in this country’s history. The republican machine is itching for her to get the nomination to make her scandals a center stage of this election. Before we vote for her, let us take a preview of how vulnerable she is here ..

Ok, in Texas where Obama actually took 8 more delegates than Hillary, what counted was her 51% – 48% lead. Now in Wyoming his 61% – 38% win is not important. The important fact is that she was able to win a “significant” number of delegates (5 to be exact). Here is another sad example of the two faces of Hillary. She is by all means the most dishonest candidate we have seen in a long time!

Jennifer, for your information Obama’s tax returns have been in the public domain for months. I guess you are one of the uneducated and uninformed who make up Hillary’s base.

obama—-YIKES !!!…read my posts….I am an Independent….have voted Democrat since 1984. I thought many times of actually joining the party. At this point I am glad I did not. What is happening in the party disgusts me.

and for those who want to say that The Daily Show is biased…yes they are … Did you see his interview with Sen. Clinton…he loves her…so these numbers are all the more informative.

An example of Obama camp hypocrisy–they will do anything to win, including manipulative twists:
“The Obama camp insists that rules are rules and Florida and Michigan shouldn’t count. But is that really a winning argument within the Democratic Party? About 2.3 million Democrats voted in those primaries. Remember that in 2000, Democrats fervently argued that Florida election law was less important than making sure “every vote counted.” The party then claimed that holding to the strict letter of the law was tantamount to disenfranchisement.
If “voter intent” was more important than the law in 2000, shouldn’t it also trump mere party rules in 2008? Obama’s argument about the paramount importance of rules might work with a Republican audience, but it runs counter to the ideological framework of the Democratic Party.

George, I completely agree. It is the Obama’s camps desire not to have the votes count in at least Florida that assures me a vote for him is a hypocritical vote. How can such a “hopeful” man blatantly be twisting things to his favor all the while bashing Mrs. Clinton. I think they are both of the same, but at least Hillary is not proposing a holier than thou message and the fact is, she has more examples of bipartisanship and political accomplishment no matter what any Obama supporters wants to manipulate.

You Hussein supporters need to continue drinking your Cool-Aid! Do you really want to put your heads in the sand?
At least get the facts from CNN, ABCNews, FoxNews, CNBC, Chicago SunTimes, etc. Your boy Hussein is what Louis Farrakhan wants as our next President.

CESSPOOL OF CORRUPTION
Although he has been mum about it, Obama has had long-standing financial relationship with Excelon Corporation, one of the biggest polluters in Illinois. Over the past ten years, Obama has received hundreds of thousands of $$$ in campaign contributions. According to FoxNews, “Senator Obama has some questions to answer about his dealings with one of his largest contributors, Exelon, a big nuclear power company.” Apparently he cut some deals behind closed doors to protect them from full disclosure in the nuclear industry.”
According to Associated Press, Obama, has refused campaign donations from federal lobbyists but accepted money from banking and law firm partners. In fact, despite mocking Senator Clinton as being a Washington insider, he happily took hundreds of thousands of dollars from partners at dozens of firms that lobbied Congress in 2007

Barack Hussein Obama is a very elegant speaker, but that is all. All of you starry eyed Obama supporters are so easily led, his speech’s have sentences with words that sound good, but have no practical meaning. Lots of Republicans voted for Obama in these primaries so he would win and McClain could beat him easier than Hillary in the general election.

I’m interested inseeing all parties tax returns, Library donations and memos from Pardon discussions.

don’t you guys see what is going on. Fla rupublican politicians are plotting the destruction of both the democratic party and the current presidential campaigns.
Fla. destroyed the elections in 2000, 2004 and here again in 2008. the repub;ican legislature new the rules on the DNC and purposely broke them when the scheduled the primary form 1/29/. there is nowway to either seat these folks or allow their votes to determine tis election. if you count the votes as they currently stand you will both disenfranchize those who did not vote and Obama/ clinton you will create a racial riot the likes of which has yet to be experienced. if clinton and obama and others signed and agreement that stated that they would not campaign in the states and that the votes would not be counted in the fight for the dem nomination they she be held to just that, treat fla like you treat DC. seat them in the convention and give them no vote in the outcome. Hillary cannot use Fla or Mischigan to steal thenomination from Obama. the american people will never stand for this. Michigan took him off the ballot and there is no way theorvotes can be counted at all. having a new election unfairly disinfranchizes Obama because it gives fla and Michigan the opportunity to usurp the votes of the populace.
I believe and i am just representative of middle america. I believe that in a year where we have seen so many miriacles in the electoral process we cannot afford to negate the american people. we all know the issues here and we are willing to stand behind the DNC and their decision agreed to by Clinton and Obama prior to those primaries. now that Obama can win we are resorting to the politics of old south. discounting the votes of the people by changing the rules at the polls or telling them not to come to the polls because their is no election and themn telling that they should have come anyway and now they have no chance of voting.
do this america and lose the youth, midle, multi-cultural input that proves to be larger than ever in this election. assure america that no other Obamaand even clinton has a chance in future to upset the apple cart of american politics. President Clinton would attack this mess if his wife was not the potential nominee. It is just wrong. wewon’t vote for Hillary if this happens we will put the idiot in office and kill another 10,00 american soldiers for nothing.

No …actually to win the presidential nomination all wins are not alike.
Wins with a large margin are something…in a state where you are running against the same party.
But a close race means almost nothing…with respect to a race against the other party.
Large margins on the other hand may carry signifigance.
If you look at the states that have large margins…most of them were Baracks win. If you narrow that to states that had a normal or maybe even larger than usual republican turnout… but were closer (under 12 points) in the last two general elections… Barack wins overwhelmingly.

“All attempts by Hillary Clinton to broker a combined Ticket ”
Why she all of sudden becomes obsessed with a combined ticket? Was the same Clinton who questioned Obama’s abaility to answer the phone at 3:00am and give republicans yet one more round of amunition to attack Obama?
So, she now realize Obama is qualified to answer the phone?
Why Clinton and her supporters always want both ways?
No, I will never vote for any ticket that has Clinton on it, regardless. She is simply too divisive and too polarizing. The nation is much better off without them in the politics, PERIOD.

He won some that will vote republican and have but if you look at the numbers…
That article did not give specific numbers…they are going on this big state assumption. I can tell you people are just starting to realize the maps of swing states that everyone has been assumning is wrong…and it becomes very clear when you see the numbers from this year compared with the last 2-3 presidential runs.
but this article never breaks it down with the numbers of people coming out to vote this year and they are looking at assumed trends based on the general ideas people had before this primary started and before Obama showed such strong numbers…
That is the point…some states that were in a 10 point margin on the republican side …have a really good chance of going to obama. It would remake the political map …
…and it doesn’t speak to the margins. I know it is the washington Post but you’ll all see in the nextweek or so…the change people are just starting to realize.

Catiger: Slash and burn sure you are not talking about Obama’s republican tactics that he used in Ohio? The picture on his mailers was the same ones used by the republicans to kill Hillary’s health care plan. It was the same picture a man and woman at a kitchen table. The ad was dubed Harry and Louise and it effectively killed health care reform.

obama—-YIKES !!! | Mar 9, 2008 3:34:45 PM: ” I could ALSO say …”
Really, Clinton said hurtful things about Obama? Really? Which one?
Comparing Obama to Carl Rove, Ken Starr? Who did it? Howard Wolfson? Who is Howard Wolfson? Is he the official spokesperson of Clinton campaign? His statement represents Clinton!!!
Clinton runs on a platform of attacking politics. She is the ultimate attacking dog for repulican.

sorry, but you’re wrong. I have been in the military for 19 yrs, I stand in sanctuary at this point. So if you THINK you know the service, then you continue to think I will be called up. I’m a little too old for that now, son.

Hillary Clinton doesn’t like or do well at caucuses. Could be because she doesn’t know where there being held. While speaking to a small gathering in Casper, Wyo. she said, “where is your caucus being held at”? Hard to send her organizing caucus team to the caucus when she doesn’t know where it is. If she doesn’t know this how is she ever going to know where the phone is? How is she ever going to organize an office? Maybe the same way she organized her own campaign; to the point she had no money, could not pay some staff and had to lend it 5mil. Still not clear where the 5mil came from?? Go-ahead Hillary, show the people your back tax returns today.

Hilary now wants Florida and Mich to be counted after signing a contract what happends when she signs a bill and wants to take it back? what dose that say to the rest of the world? with some countries treating woman as slaves will they even talk to her? and what dose it say to our country? will she even keep her word to us? or go back on her word if it bennfits her? and so what if Hilary won some big states? dose that mean the little states don’t matter what are we voting for? if the big states and the super delgates are the ones voting Obama is the one who has bought the voters out but your saying we don’t count if we live in a little state and sure Hilary has more experance but what has experance done for us? except make politicians richer we are sick of hearing what experance has done we want to know what its going to do for us we are supporting a war that cost us $150,0000 a month our housing has gone down the tubes gas prices are eating us alive other countries are buying our banks and all our jobs are in other countries what has the same old politics done for us except take from us? we are the ones paying there wages and getting little if nothing back I think politicians should go back and read the declaration of independence it said for the people by the people not subject to control and that is happening if all the states are not counted we need someone who will take us where we want to go not the govenerment what are we doing frist Bush then Clinton then Bush then Clinton and you know Hilary will not keep Bill out of the white house don’t you think we need a fresh prospective what harm can someone new do were already down we can only go up but can we go up with the same as usual politics who is going to steal from us more or is that just politics? and who is going to be counted just the big guy?

russell: “her toughness …”, all fine with me with you lecture on why politicians need to be tough. But that does not mean they should go out and attack everybody on her way?
Toughness should be in her heart, to get things done, not to attack her fellow democrats who vowed never doing negative campaign. Toughness is when you are attacked you still hold your ground and not to attack. It takes a hell of character to do that.
No, Clinton is weak in her heart. Her character is weak. She pretends to be tough. She is just another “win-at-all-cost” politician. We have had plenty of them in the past. GWB is one of them.
By attacking, she makes a lot of enamies. You know what, her enamies are not necessarily our enamies. They are also americans who happen to have just slightly different opinion than her. As time goes on, her enamies could unite and diminish and destroy her.
This time, she also managed to make a lot of enamies among the people who used to support her.

Obama, if you don’t like or can’t take the heat now wait till you become the nominee. The repubs will eat the freshman senator alive. Hillary has always been able to handle the repubs bashing and put a few more on them. And that is exactly the point, the repub attack machine will be worse than what we have seen him handle yet. What you are watching now is a prelude to nov.

don’t distort MY view….I will NOT vote for hillary clinton, period.
She could do kartwheels and backflips, I could care less. She is polarizing, manipulating, and a disgusting liar.
Her slash and burn politics don’t make her tough,

so russell…you actually BELIEVE all her lies and distortions?
you agree with her hypocrisy? especially when it comes to taxes…her campaign asked for Lazio’s taxes everyday….was she imitating Ken Starr then??
Just like she campaigns, she will be the same if she were in office. Just like she did healthcare, held closed door meetings that affects the public, so she’ll be in office. Most people don’t want that anymore….its old, and tired.
Will she be made to answer Peter Paul?

your operative words there russell….”a 60s radical group”
you can hold onto something from 40 yrs back, but you ignore all the crap the clintons have done within the last 20 yrs?
the clintons let terrorists go…and you want to make THAT comparison???

LA in Indiana: You are starting to lose me with these illogical questions.I will have to admit that Bill Clinton did not get Osama Bin Laden, but then again Mr. Bush has had 7 yrs to get him dead or alive and the last time I checked he was still alive and on the lose. I know of noconnection between Mr.Ayers and his wife with Osama other than there hatered of america. It is Move On dot Org. who has endorsed Mr. Obama that says that General Petraus has betrayed us. Yet he does not reject their endorsement. I am against the war but I know one thing and that is that the military did not betray this country. They have done everything that we have asked of them. It was the politicians that let them down. I have always been proud of America not just when Obama decided to run!

Do not worry all you Hillary supporters let’s wait in see how pissed off Hillary can angry all the Obama”s supporters. I am not just talking about Obama ether; just the people who support him in this election. She underestimated him before the election and now she is underestimating his strong support. Remember this is a movement will see what happens after she steals the election. This is going to go down as a classic battle in the history books. Your grandchildren will be talking about the 08 election; what happened?. Do not worry; Obama does not have to say a word the people who support him will.
This is Hillary’s scorched earth policy, slash and burn. If she can’t win then her policy is to destroy everything and everyone including the Democratic Party. She is willing to loose her legacy and her dignity all in the name of power. I feel really bad for her if she does this she will regret it later in life.
I see a great opportunity here for the republicans in this election. If Hillary steals this election; by her any means necessary policy. The republicans should try to reach to all the African Americans and Obama supporters to support John McCain… Obama should not under any circumstances accept or align himself; in any way with the Clinton Campaign. He should go back to the Senate and get ready 2012. All of us who support Obama should either vote for John McCain or sit this election out in protest of Hillary Clinton???s campaign

Obama is king of Caucuses, no doubt. But in the general election where the cameras are not shone on people, the people generally vote with their head (and nobody can accuse them of being racists).
That explains why Barrack Obama is doing well in Republican states (Red States). He is doing well because Republicans in general do not like Hillary; they don’t like Democrats in general, and they will flock around McCain in the general election. Why? Because Obama has no achievements in Illinois or Washington that he can tout. Being a community organizer does not sell in National politics.
Republicans have being voting for Obama in the Red State to stop the person they fear most – Hillary.
Democrats should not be fooled. Blacks in general should not let pride cloud their judgment.

Obama is king of Caucuses, no doubt. But in the general election where the cameras are not shone on people, the people generally vote with their head (and nobody can accuse them of being racists).
That explains why Barrack Obama is doing well in Republican states (Red States). He is doing well because Republicans in general do not like Hillary; they don’t like Democrats in general, and they will flock around McCain in the general election. Why? Because Obama has no achievements in Illinois or Washington that he can tout. Being a community organizer does not sell in National politics.
Republicans have been voting for Obama in the Red State to stop the person they fear the most – Hillary.
Democrats should not be fooled. Blacks in general should not let pride cloud their judgment either.
Let’s keep our eyes on the price.

“I’ve been very blessed. Keynote speaker at the Democratic National Convention. The cover of Newsweek. My book made the best-seller list. I just won a Grammy for reading it on tape.
Really, what else is there to do?
Well, I guess I could pass a law or something.”
–Barack Obama, March 2006

Absent advocating the IRS as an important component of healthcare; Hillary is nothing more than McCain in a pantsuit.

Where do you find such a Logic ?
Senator Clinton and Bill are floating the idea of Senator Obama being considered as an EXCELLENT VP candidate.
As Senator Kerry indicated, the item to consider when you pick a VP running mate is, in an event of an incident or an accident can he step in as a President?
Senator Clinton is negating herself. If Senator Obama can not be a Preident then he can not be a VP unless she is 100% confident nothing will incapacitate her.
This is either challenging the Super Natural or STATEING THAT SENATOR OBAMA IS QUALIFIED TO BE A COMMANDER IN CHIEF.
The logic is to accept the later.
No matter why they are injecting this notion into the campaign, it is nothing more than saying anything to be nominated and elected.

NO THANKS HILLARY!!!
I have gone beyond losing all respect for Hillary. Now she is using Senator Obama to get votes. She tells people on the campaign trail that they might get a chance to vote for both of them if they vote for HER first. She will do and say ANYTHING to win.
I am glad that Senator Obama has stated that he WILL NOT BE A VP and I hope that he will NOT ask Senator Clinton to be his VP.
I was sick to my stomach Friday when I left for work after watching a video of a staged Clinton media event with some retired generals. They read from prepared remarks. She praised John McCain’s years of experience…stated her experience as if it were the same as McCain’s and then stated that she had somehow proven she met some ‘threshhold for being ready to be commander and chief’. Then she tried to reduce Senator Obama’s experience to one speech… It’s outrageous as if she is attempting some sort of mind control and we will just believe her because she got it out in the media….
Her husband, Bill Clinton had no experience that ‘qualified’ him to be commander and chief when he ran for president…
Clearly the Clintons KNOW that Senator Obama IS READY to be commander and chief on DAY ONE or they would not want to be on a ticket with him…AND it looks like the Clintons have realized that they can’t win without him so they are trying to USE HIM TO WIN.
I won’t be voting for a ticket with Hillary Clinton on it. Besides having her on the ticket will unite a fractured republican base and they will do anything to keep the Clintons out of the white house.
And despite what Clinton says the media has been going very easy and fairly polite with her. There is a lot out there that they could be asking her about and they are NOT. I feel that they are more biased against Senator Obama…especially CNN, and the people who vote for him.
There have been no VALID votes in Michigan and Florida. They are not recognized by the national party. The candidates signed agreements about this.
I support a new and valid vote for Florida and Michigan if it can be set up fairly. Senator Obama will need time to campaign in these states so that people can get to know him which was not allowed previously and Clinton was already well known without having campaigned. Obama has has to introduce himself and let the people get to know him.
WE NEED CHANGE NOW!!!
Obama/Edwards ’08

What True Democrat could Vote for Hillary after she was Praising McCain on National T.V.(and for you who dont know, McCain is a Republican)

I will not vote for Senator Obama if Sen. Clinton becomes his running mate. Who wants those two in the Whitehouse again? Only those who stand to gain from their corrupt donors – drug dealers, people of questional characters who are in jail or those from Arab countries whose stand on terrorism is not known. Or lobbyists and their companies who donated more to Sen. Clinton than any other candidate Republican or Democrat. She is indepted to them and therefore, cannot get anything done as she claims.

the big states hillary wins always vote demoscrat in genereal elections thats why they are called blue states lol hillary and her supporters has proven this that she cant win in red states thats why the super delegates are leaning to obama obama leads hillary 150 plus in pledged delegates and if you add fla he still leads and in popular votes hillary fans its over.dinggggggg

I don’t think blacks are letting race cloud their judgement! Blacks are listening to the issues that are important to the people and they are part of the people. This is our lives just like it is every other race. I wish everyone would stop thinking that we are that mesmerised by Obama that we are not seeing things clear because we are and we are not as dumb as people think we are! If we think Hillary is the best canidate then that is the vote we will cast. But, for the most of us, we feel Hillary is not honest and we have read between the linesw, not saying that Obama is a saint but his track record is nothing like Hillary’s.Please give us more credit than that.

People need to remain focused on how the election will be won in November…by winning the vote of the electoral college.
Obama fans are quick to point out more wins in individual states, while Clinton supporters point to experience and electability.
The winning candidate will remain focused on the November election. John McCain and the Republicans are already doing that.
At present, Hillary Clinton has won states which would net approximately 260 electoral votes while Barak Obama could garner about 190 votes.
It doesn’t matter how many battles you can win if you can’t win the war.

Hillary’s big state argument doesn’t hold water. NY, NJ, MA and CA will be won by the Democrats in November regardless of the nominee.
The notion that losing 61-39 is “a good showing” is laughable. Hillary was creamed yet again.

My significance in the vote that counts (the electoral college), is nil.
That’s because I will vote in a state that was an insignificant Obama caucus win.
The electoral votes of my state will go to the Republican (this time it’s McCain) as they always have.
My vote in the Presidential election is important to me, but it is- insignificant.
I can deal with it.
Can you?

THE INCREDIBLE NONSENSE OF THESE TWO CANDIDATES WILL BE THE DEMISE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. CLINTON CRITICIZES OBAMA AND SAYS HE IS NOT READY OR EXPERIANCED BUT FEELS HE IS READY TO BE VP? CLINTON IS THE MOST HYPOCRITICAL LIAR & MANIPULATOR ON EARTH -THE MORE WOMEN DON”T OPEN THEIR EYES TO THIS FACT- MORE OF THESE SAME WOMEN WILL NOT BE RESPECTED IN THE FUTURE. THINK ABOUT IT.WAKE UP LADIES & GENTS. NEITHER DEM IS READY OR QUALIFIED. MOVE ON.

A few elections ago there was a fund raiser put on for Gore by his friends. Gore was to be the star attraction. Hillary found out about this event and demanded to be invited and this was agreed to by the organizers. When Hillary showed up she started working the room for money for herself – sucking the money away from Gore. She pissed off some BIG TIME Democrats and some of those people today are supporting Obama despite having been in the inner Clinton circle. Hillary will have no one but herself to blame when she fails to make her life long vision a reality.