Hillary Denies Saying “Big Boys” Were Trying to Bully a Woman Out of the Race
The New York Times’ Patrick Healey, Jeff Zeleny and Adam Nagourney reported on Saturday that, in response to calls for Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, to drop out of the race (from the likes of Obama-backing Sen. Pat Leahy, D-Vermont), "In a conversation with two Democratic allies, she compared the situation to the ‘big boys’ trying to bully a woman, according to interviews with them."
In the Washington Post Sunday, Clinton denied the report to Perry Bacon, Jr.
Q. "There was a story today that said you felt the ‘big boys’ were trying to push you out, ‘bullying’ you. Did you use those phrases?"
Clinton: "No , I did not. … I never said that. I’m always amazed when I read things I supposedly said that I never said. Look, I think that what is going on with people trying to shut this process down is very counterproductive. I think it is not in the best interests of the Democratic Party…
"It would be perilous for me to say, ‘You know, Barack Obama won x,y and z. That’s not enough electoral votes. He should drop out.’ Why would anybody say that? We need to let this contest continue. I know there are some people who want to shut this process down, and I think they are wrong and I have no intention of stopping until we finish what we started, and until we see what happens in the next 10 contests, and until we resolve Florida and Michigan. And if we won’t resolve it, we’ll resolve it at the convention — that’s what credentials committees are for — because I feel so strongly about this. For the life of me, what Barack was afraid of with Michigan I will never understand. There is no doubt in my mind he would have done just fine running a vigorous campaign."
UPDATE: Healey at the New York Times emailed me to say the newspaper stands by its story.
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Who cares if she said it. The elitist
“big boys” who support Obama in the Democratic party are trying to push out.
Posted by: alpaig | March 31, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
Who can trust her anyway! Once you are a lier, you always remain so. Its in the genes of Clintons.
Posted by: Peace | March 31, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
WE support you Hillary! I predict she will win PA, IN, KY, and WV. No stopping her now. She is on a roll. I’ve talked to many of my friends in PA and they have never seen such strong support for any candidate like there is for Hillary. They say there are literally thousands of volunteers already there canvassing and calling. The voters are what matters, these blogs and pundits are no help to the people of america and the problems we face.
Posted by: Mike | March 31, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
Hillary is juicing this story for all of its sympathy votes.
Poor Hillary – being pushed out. Come on gang, let’s go help her.
Posted by: jack | March 31, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
Big Boys Small Boys Fat Cat Slim Cats. Who cares? These are unnecessary distration.
Posted by: Humm | March 31, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Political elections are national issues they cannot and should not be founded by private donations especially coming from Hillary’s 20 Fat Cats who want to sleep in the White House as guests. MI and FL have not respected rules and regulations and Hillary-the Bosnian sniper- wants to change these rules just to continue in the primaries, how many contests have happened how many she has won? Peace, there was no camera to show what was said, she is denying what she has said. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08
Posted by: BKMC | March 31, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
But they are trying to shut her down. As a “low Information voter” for Hillary stay in it to win it.
Posted by: toby | March 31, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
“”No , I did not. … I never said that. I’m always amazed when I read things I supposedly said that I never said.”"
Sure Hillary, I believe you. You just “misspoke.”
“For the life of me, what Barack was afraid of with Michigan I will never understand.”
Barack wasn’t afraid of Michigan, but the revote you were trying to push was wrong. The plan she wanted would have prevented people who voted in the Republican primary from voting. Because HRC was the only person on the ballot, a lot of Dems & Independents (not to mention Republican Obama supporters) voted in the Republican primary. This plan would have disenfranchised a lot of Obama supporters, while simultaneously allowing Republicans to vote in the primary (and we all know the support Rush Limbaugh Repubs are giving HRC). HRC said the votes wouldn’t matter when she was the presumed frontrunner, but now that she’s losing, all of a sudden, they count. It’s another typical Clinton move and I hope the people of Michigan and Florida aren’t falling for it.
Posted by: Jen | March 31, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Talking about big boys…I would rather see a story about Obama’s final four choice…safe as some may say it was…I didn’t see too many people picking this safe route…it is all about judgement…haha.
Posted by: dl | March 31, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
So People that want Hillary to drop out are all be anti-womyn now.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 31, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
I think the press and the Obama crowd should keep demanding that Hillary drop out of the race, because all it does is make voters in Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Indiana furious.
There are five months before the convention. Five months! In political terms that is several lifetimes. Anything can happen. The Obama people want to lock this thing up because they know he has a big closet full of skeletons just waiting to burst open. They would like to get the entire party behind him before this happens. Well, it’s not going to happen.
Remember the Rocky movies? Since the Pennsylvania primary is next we can cast Hillary as Rocky Balboa, the underdog who does not give up.
Taa Ta Ta Taa Taa Taa Ta Ta Taaaaaa! (Rocky theme rising to a crescendo as Hillary runs up the steps in her pants suit. OK, not a great visual … sorry.)
Posted by: David H | March 31, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Why does Hillary ALWAYS play the gender card?
Posted by: Yes Yes Yes | March 31, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Hillary is the strongest candidate I have seen in a very long time. How dare the losers like Kerry and Ted and others in the Democratic Party stand in her way!
Posted by: macondo | March 31, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
Wow!
1. BHO did not ask her to quit.
Why would she say, “It would be perilous for me to say, ‘You know, Barack Obama won x,y and z (snip)”
Ans: Look big boys, I won big states
2. FL & MI: Keep it burning after the respective states themselves washed their hands.
Some fun:
Q. “There was a story today that said you felt the ‘big boys’ were trying to push you out, ‘bullying’ you. Did you use those phrases?”
A: “No , I did not… there is no basis for that. I did not say, ‘as far as I know’”
Disclaimer: I support none. I’m just amazed by Sen. Clinton’s choice of words and calculations.
Posted by: JustWatching | March 31, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Hillary won’t say it but I will. The ole boys club is definitely trying to strong arm the Senator. Otherwise, people like Leahy, and Dodd would shut up and let the primaries play out. Neither candidate has enough pledged votes to get the nomination.
Posted by: Vivi | March 31, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Elect Obama, then lose the House and Senate in two years and the White House in four. The insanity of the DNC is palpable. Their socialist policies mixed with their minority infatuations will set an agenda to redress all wrongs real and imagined. Under the debt load, the economy now tanking in a recession will go into a long depression. Embittered by the failures of the neo-leftists, the separatists will be emboldened by the ambiguities of the White House press to use ever more confrontational tactics. It will be a redux of 1968. In 2012, the Republicans will make a clean sweep of all three branches of government. No wonder they are celebrating.
Posted by: len | March 31, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
And if she said it would it be so terrible? the Main Stream Media Big Boys are always trying to push her out..If she didn’t say that the gender bashing by the media is profound then I will say it…moreover, when did the Democrats become a party of elitests? When did my party for my whole life want to disenfranchise voters…ignore the wishes of millions of voters?What era did I miss? This new era…of Obamacans is almost as scary as the Bushies…and the ONE thing in common as evidenced by Rev. Wright is that neither the Obamacans or Bushies can LISTEN AND ACTUALLY HEAR!!count the votes!!!!
Posted by: mss309 | March 31, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
Electoral votes (the latest in a string of new goal posts) is a song to sing on another planet but not the standard for gaining the nomination, and is sounding desperately off key. If her new chorus song weren’t so pathetic we could chuckle, but she is such an exhausting personality that mere dislike turns into revulsion. Besides, she would miss the red phone call at 3:00AM. She would be on it, and the line busy – hustling for cash or leaning on someone.
Posted by: Rita | March 31, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
Look, there will be things said here and there, there will be misstatements, outright embellishments, distortions. The scrutiny is unprecedented. Washington and Jefferson would have been trashed under this kind of scrutiny. Like the stock market you can’t follow the daily blips, you have to look at the long term. Obama spent more than 20 years listening and donating to his “mentor” and “sounding boad” Rev. Wright. That speaks to the way he may govern and the policies he may implement.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | March 31, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
You Obama folks are truly amazing. Your analytical skills, stupefying.
The Washington Post Sunday asked her the question. Political Punch presents the article.
Then you guys carp and pule that HRC is “playing the gender card”!
Defies common sense, and would defy believe were it not so typical of Obama folks.
Posted by: MC | March 31, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
as a “big girl” I think Hillary should drop out also
it isn’t about being a woman
It’s about personal ambition over riding facts/knowledge/a poorly run and managed campaign and more than anything
potentially jeopardizing Nov for the democrats
My prediction?
Hillary wins Penn – but under 10 pts
Obama wins NC May 6th and Indiana – very close – no negligible gain either way
May 7th – Hillary suspends her campaign and lays in wait for an Obama issue that will not happen
I would love a woman pres in my lifetime- but not this woman
A woman who earned it on her own – Sen Clinton is a very smart woman and a policy wonk – she can use those skills as Gov of NY or Maj Leader of the senate – she is far too divisive to lead this country out of the morass we are in
Her failure to cut ties with the Penn’s/Wolfson’s/McAuliffe’s/Ickes’ tells you she has the same loyalty problem – with Maggie Williams being the worst of them all — as our current disatrous president
DEMOCRATS have to keep their eye on November for the party – not a singular ambition
Posted by: alison | March 31, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
They are trying to force her out. I’m changing parties after the primary. The Dems are idiots. If they succeed, go McCain, never Obama.
Posted by: Jacko | March 31, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
Mike -
Even if you are right about those states, she still loses the nomination. She has to win EACH of the remaining 10 races 65%-35% to have a chance.
As for the big boys club, that is owned and run by the Clintons…
Posted by: JP | March 31, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
It’s going to be a long twenty two days
if this is the best you can come up with and I would say it is the good old Boys club that is trying to push her out.Just imagine how it will look If the super Power leader is a woman why else is she being pushed around she has been very efective in the senate she has crossed over proved she can work across party lines Obama was hand picked to run because people like Kerry,Kennedy, and Dodd knew they couldn’t beat her and I think they know the are in big trouble because they have split this party and it will take more than five months to heal if ever.
Posted by: Bishop | March 31, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Alison: I’m with you 100% percent. I would love to vote a woman into the White House at some point in my life! I just don’t feel Clinton is that woman. Perhaps the new generation of politicians will spawn a woman I can vote for?
Posted by: Jack | March 31, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
To All Democrats and Independant White, Brown, Yellow, any one but Black voters, Obama is not for you. He is only for a group of Black people. He is clearly in the position of ANTI-AMERICAN and GOD DAMN AMERICA. Why should we vote for Obama? Ask yourself that question before casting your votes.
For young college students, don’t cast your vote for Obama because the Media told you to. You have your all mind. You know what is right and what is wrong. I count on you to make the right decision for the country, The United State Of America. I love this country than Obama and his Racist wife.
Be prepare to Vote for John McCain.
Posted by: Microtek | March 31, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Why does she keep bringing up MI? I’ve heard the audio of her claiming they won’t count when the decision came down. So what… was she not well informed about that too? Or was this another case of misspoken? Republicans called for Huckabee and the Dems are calling for Hillary to drop… Please stop the “until counted let everyone have a voice” Primaries are still going on and McCain is the nominee correct? So what about all those after he reached his mark? If Obama reached the mark would you still support her staying in? Probably not, but again what about those other votes she is showing so much passion for? I think what we are witnessing is Hillary’s Iraq Exit Strategy. Doesn’t look good now does it. ;)
Posted by: Greg | March 31, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
I know it is challenging in this day of the internet and 24 hour news cycle to fill all the space demanded by the medium but this story is ridiculous. Obama is exerting pressure to try to get her out of the race, and Clinton is pushing back saying it’s not over – let the process play out. It’s exactly what you would expect from both sides. So where’s the news? Is it relevant to deciding how either one will govern or how capable a president they will be?
Posted by: hopesprings52 | March 31, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
I feel the same way about Obama, Allison and Jack!
I would like to see an entirely Black American or a Half-Black American as president someday. I would never like to see Obama as president, and will do everything I can vote-wise, money-wise, and influence-wise to see that he is not
Posted by: MC | March 31, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
I would like to know what the democrats are afraid of if Clinton stats in the race to the very end. Perhaps it’s because the more moderates of the party are waking up to the “Obama the Unifier” bull. I am going to become a Independent if Obama wins and spend less time following a biased media.
Posted by: kenny from ct. | March 31, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
BKMC,
Do you agree that it is in the rules for the credentials committee to seat the delegates from Florida and Michigan?
If you don’t agree that that is the case, then you need to go READ the RULES before you continue DISTORING the RULES for duplicitous purposes!
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 31, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Was not Huckabee like 600 del. behind when they called for him to drop out I guess kennedy can’t come out and ask after all in 1980 he took it to the floor and I guess at that point he was only behind by about 600del I think it was 1900 to Carter and 1200 Kennedy.or maybe it was around 700
Posted by: Bishop | March 31, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Regardless who the nominee is, I can’t believe dems would vote for McCain when the Supreme Court is at stake. You have to live with that a lot longer than 4 years
Posted by: moe | March 31, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
MC: You have every right to do what you typed. I have no ill-will towards Clinton backers.
Posted by: Jack | March 31, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Hillary has lied about her trip to Bosnia, her role in passing the bill on FMLA, and SCHIP. Her campaign is in financial ruins for the second time. She has not paid her bills for the small and large businesses that have worked on her campaign. If she cannot budget her campaign finances, do you really trust her to balance the budget of U.S.A?
I am sure that most of your answers to these questions are emphatically, “no.” Yet, you would rather have her in the White House instead of a black man.
Racist? No way.
Posted by: jack | March 31, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
As a lifelong Democrat, I can honestly say I am ashamed of the party. I’d rather have a Republican choice for the supreme court, after witnessing this. Lieberman is right the party has be taken over by unsavory people.
Posted by: Jacko | March 31, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
If Hillary is not going to win anything, if she is so far behind then what is this constant cry to get out?
MaCain was not even bothered with Huck when he kept on in the race and he was really behind in a major way, McCain left it up to Huckabee to decided on his own and he did eventually drop out of the race.
I don’t feel for one night McCain got anxious over Huckabee’s run but here we have a different story on the democrat side they have this super front runner that is ahead by all these great margins and yet its a constant cry for Hillary to drop out.
Everyday its the same cry drop out Hillary, what happen the democrats have no faith in Obama’s winning abilities? Or are they worried that more dirt will sink Obama before the GE so they want the road cleared just in case?
Let her run what is the problem, its her time and money, if she is broke well that will be her problem, if she damages her political life that will be her problem also, I really don’t see what is the great concern and am sure its not out of love for Hillary, so let the woman run her race….Geez
Posted by: SJ | March 31, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
len
“Elect Obama, then lose the House and Senate in two years and the White House in four.”
You mean like the last time we elected a dem…now what was his name?…oh yeah…Clinton.
He lost the congress in 2 then in reaction to all the baggage they brought with their self centered focus …we got Bush, a war, a government overrun by the right, a collapsing economy that did start a downturn with him, and could have been saved had we not lost out to the moron who won.
We lost the White House and the Congress because of all the Shenanigans and baggage…
So vote for them again…or vote for Obama…
I’ll tell you which choice is dumb.
Posted by: dl | March 31, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
SJ: I agree with your comments. I don’t think she’ll win but the decision to leave the race is hers and hers alone. Besides, Obama has echoed the sentiment that she should stay in the race. As an Obama supporter, I agree with his assertion.
Posted by: Jack | March 31, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
I would vote for a black man but not this one Colin Powell,Ford,Will Smith just kidding but Obama and his Mother had strange ties you can tie him in with some radcial Black Folks if you concider it raceist to want to know all about a man who sat under a Pastor who is radcial then so be it.
Posted by: Bishop | March 31, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
“For the life of me, what Barack was afraid of with Michigan I will never understand.”
Yeah, why on earth wouldn’t Obama be overjoyed at the prospect of a sham primary where independents are not allowed to vote even though Michigan’s primaries are open. Oh, and it would be financially backed by Clinton supporters, and in a state that basically tried to “give” Michigan to Hillary. The original ballot was: Vote Hillary or don’t vote at all!
BTW, Levin, Granholm and all the rest of the insider shills in MI better start looking for jobs ;)
Posted by: Jefferson Madison (Michigan) | March 31, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
Any Democrat is better than a Republican. A true Democrat won’t defect because their candidate bows out or loses the primaries. If you vote that Cyborg, McCain be sure of several things:
1) We’ll stay in Iraq for a long long time.
2) You’ll loose more jobs.
3) More people would loose their homes.
4) Health care universal or otherwise would be a dream.
5) We’ll probably invade Iran too.
How can people be so daft? Do you guys want to ruin the greatest nation on earth and sell it to the Chinese? Since Bush too over the Chinese & Arabs control almost everything here. When people die in Iraq or loose their jobs it brings tears to my eyes. This has nothing to do with gender, race or religion, it’s just common sense for those who are informed.
If you guys don’t use your heads we’ll be back to the stone age real soon.
Please vote any Democrat, don’t vote that Cyborg McCain.
Posted by: Owen | March 31, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Let her stay in the race. Bill Clinton told everyone he paid down the National Debt and had a surplus. Look on Yahoo.com and search,(Public Debt to the Penny). This is the United States Treasuries Website. Look to the left hand side of the website where it says,(Historical Debt Outstanding). Click on it. The last time the debt was paid down was 1957!!!!
President Bush gave everyone a tax cut on Bill Clinton’s lie. Al Gore lost an election because Bush gave everyone a tax cut.
The more information you have about Bill and Hillary Clinton the better.
Why hasn’t the news media called Bill and Hillary to the carpet for this untruth hoisted on the United States public. It has cost us 4 Trillion dollars of extra debt.It was just one of Bill Clinton’s little white lies.
We need more Cinton’s in office….I’m so sure.
Posted by: Steven Wilson | March 31, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
If she said it or not, it is the truth. The big boys/young boys of the party and of the news media are after her to step aside. I will never understand how these people in the Democratic Party can support someone with Obama’s history. Do they actually believe he sat for 20 years and never heard the Rev. Wright say anything racist or anti-Country. He even has the gall now to say that if the Rev. was still the pastor, he would have to withdraw his membership. The Rev. Wright is the same today as he has been for all his life. He didn’t just preached hate once or twice. Anyone with an ounce of sense knows better than that. So, what is happening, the Old/Young Boys of the party and the news media are giving him a free pass. Now, is this due to a gender bias or is it because all of a sudden the Old Boys/Young Boys and the news media could care less about loyalty to this Country? They know and everyone knows there is no way a person with Obama’s history could have gotten this far. Is his big money talking? Well, his history matter to these people but it will in the general election because the Republicans will bring out more proof of his disloyalty to Country. Everyone already knows his wife has never cared for this Country until this year so that is another person in his life who has been an influence.
To all you people who go on about the Clinton’s millions, be real. They never had money until he retired and wrote his book and she wrote her book and he has made many speeches. What is wrong with that? BUT at the same time he has worked very hard for people all over the world. His organization has done more for African and other Countries including this Country than any Republican or Democrat. Except maybe Pres. Carter.
Posted by: Mickey | March 31, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Hey Owen
What does it feel like to live in a world of assertions. Do facts keep you awake at night?
Posted by: Surelock Homes | March 31, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
A vote for Hilliary is a vote for McCain, they are one in the same. Period.
Posted by: cba | March 31, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
I have said right along she is a LIAR and will do anything to get into the White House.How much more of this crap can America take???Lets get the ole crap put of Washiogton and move in some new voices,ideas,and move this country forward for a change .Let the peoele have a say in what is going to happen.Lets give the children coming up a change>>>>>>>>Not debt>>>>>
Posted by: h | March 31, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Hillary Clinton is the queen of weasel politics…..the say and do what ever it takes crowd. She represents the same failed ideologies of the Bush administration. We need a change from the same old same old. After 20 years of Bush and Clinton…..we desperately need a new direction.
Posted by: jerry | March 31, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
I agree. I am so ashamed of the Democratic party. Between caucus states, superdelegates, not allowing Michigan and Florida to vote, this whole process is a sham, and is not democratic at all. As much as people keep crying for Hillary to leave because “superdelegates” supporting her to victory would be wrong (but wait, isn’t this in the rules?), and Michigan and Florida never having a final say so we can see what the ACTUAL popular vote are, I can’t believe in either of these two. I am certainly not an Obama supporter, because it is clear victory is the only thing on his mind, and his supporters will do anything for him, thick and thin. I am tired of these personality and stubborn politics. I can see it now already in the future, “remember how amazing Obama was” alongside someone else, “not really.” How we do love our heroes and villains!?! I am sitting this race out come November, indeed.
Posted by: steven | March 31, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
what’s the hurry now? just let the election process run its course and not alienate the HRC supporters..let all voters have their say….obama will need them to win in november.
Posted by: elgarbanzo | March 31, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Senator Clinton should not be allowed to campaign ANYWHERE until she pays ALL her bills (some from as far bac as IOWA)!
If she can stay in the race after paying her bills, then great. But don’t leave folks holding the bag – real working people need their money when it is due – not when “the Clintons” get around to paying.
P.S. 16 more days until Senator Clinton releases her tax returns.
Posted by: Nobodys fool | March 31, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
SURELOCK HOMES. I believe you’re clown. What I mentioned earlier are facts. I guess you haven’t traveled abroad. While you guys are watching what Britney Spears does on your national news, people in England watch another version of your CNN & FOX NEWS. They discuss serious stuff & the news isn’t censored like it’s done here. I travel abroad every month, so I know what I’m talking about, do you?
Posted by: Owen | March 31, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
If the Democratic party wanted this contest to be over then Obama would have already secured enough super delegates. He has not done so.
The super delegates are waiting. What are they waiting for? What we’re all waiting for…learning the other unknowns about Obama.
Posted by: Alicia | March 31, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
This Democrat will vote as an Independant and I’ll vote for a Democrat for both houses of the Congress. I will write Hillary’s name in; that is if she doesn’t run in the general election. I will not vote for a Republican. If the Democrats can elect enough members to both houses to over ride vetoes and fillerbusters, then it doesn’t matter if McCain wins.
One very important issue that probably will come up in the next four years is Social Security. Obama is on the same wave link as the Republicans. We need enough people in both houses to block any move that is made to privatize SS.
Posted by: Mickey | March 31, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
Alicia,
I’m glad you brought up the superdelegates, many of them have known “the Clintons” for years . . . why have they not endorsed Senator Clinton by now? If the people who know you best don’t believe in you, why should I?
Posted by: Nobodys fool | March 31, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
Ya Man. What’s going on with Hillary sticking it to the working guy and paying her bills.
You got hard working musicians in Wisconsin who play the campaign events going without being paid.
You Got Food Bank in Minnesota that feed the homeless that has been stiffed after helping out Hill.
You got campaign employees and their unpaid healthcare premiums.
Is this a pattern of a reckless candidate, or is Hillary out of cash. Or maybe it’s a little of both.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 31, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Well, Hillary is certainly eloquent in hitting at Obama in her replies :-), a real hardcore politician.
And now she talks about Michigan. She accepted the rules, and now she wants to change them for political gain, and Obama didn’t even campaign there, so of course she won handily. She just wants more perceived momentum. Anyway, by the time the convention comes, Obama is already the nominee, so they can resolve it any way they want. But for Obama to accept the Michigan results now, he would in effect be bowing to an anomaly.
Anyone can see what Hillary wants … she is only going through her Michigan pitch for the dumb folks or die-hard followers to feed on … there’s always someone to brainwash …
Posted by: Joe | March 31, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
The point is that there is no rationale for Clinton to withdraw. If the party decided that it could fully back Obama, the super delegates would already have done so.
Posted by: Alicia | March 31, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
Is anyone still waiting for Uncle Wright? I thought he was just retired.
Posted by: jy2008 | March 31, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
Maybe Michigan isn’t an out and out lie like her Bosnia story but it is incredibly disengenious. She agreed in writing to let Michigan and Florida votes count because they were proposing to break the rules. The ballots didn’t even include Barrack’s name. How on earth can that be fair? I’ve seen her respond, “Well, that was his choice.” No his choice AND HER CHOICE was to agree not to allow those votes to count. I really, really respected her when she entered the race. She has let me down. Obama should get the nomination because Florida and Michigan should be responsible for their own choices. They knew the consequences and now should follow through with what was clearly told to them would happen.
Posted by: AnaT | March 31, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
This woman doesn’t even pay her staff and workers’ health insurance bills, Ken Vogel’s new reports at Politico show.
So, ’nuff said.
She’s a disgrace to Democrats.
Many in her own campaign HATE her. Just wait for more reports to come out.
Posted by: hank | March 31, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
My guess is she “misspoke.” I also just saw footage of her “bowling” for reporters. If Obama made fun of her like that, he would be attacked by her campaign, the press and all of the women who support her just because they think they have to support the female candidate. I think he should challenge her to a game of H-O-R-S-E. Winner take all…
Posted by: Teresa | March 31, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Once again we have more flip flopping from Obama with his filling out of a liberal questioner.
Will the real Obama please stand up!!!! I really would love to know if this man can hold a singular view and stick to it, one day its yes next day its no.
If Hillary was lying constantly as Obama is I think the media would of been doing cartwheels with it, why this silence on Obama when this man cannot seem to keep a view or hold on to his convictions once he is pressed.
Rather than the media concentrate on Hillary dropping out for god sake please investigate Obama’s constant changing of his stance on issue, the media owes it to the public that if Obama is a fake to expose him for what he is, am getting sick and tired of this lets turn a blind eye by some of the media especially the main media houses.
Posted by: SJ | March 31, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Mike, you’re right on the money! I am going to repeat what you said:
WE support you Hillary! I predict she will win PA, IN, KY, and WV. No stopping her now. She is on a roll. I’ve talked to many of my friends in PA and they have never seen such strong support for any candidate like there is for Hillary. They say there are literally thousands of volunteers already there canvassing and calling. The voters are what matters, these blogs and pundits are no help to the people of america and the problems we face.
A vote for Obama is a vote for Rev. Wright!
Ned
Posted by: Ned | March 31, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
Owen: Having Obama as President would be worst than having any Republican. So the choice is go Hillary or go Republican; no way we are going to put our country in the hands of Obama. If the Democratic Party does not choose the best candidate, we need to go with the lesser bad and that would be McCain over Obama.
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | March 31, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
THE HILLARY CAMPAIGN STOPPED PAYING THEIR BILLS!!
So who would this to continue? It is a disaster, and she fully proven that she will NEVER be able to handle a large economy.
STOP fooling us with all the Hillary. She has become a running joke, a total failure.
And yes, even her polka bands suffer:
“The Steve Meisner Band played at Hillary Clinton’s rally Monday evening at the Monona Terrace.
It was on short notice, and the band requested $200 for the time and effort and a photo op with the New York Democrat. Not much considering the campaign communications director had announced online fund raising garnered $15 million in 15 days this month, according to several Web sites.
The band left without a penny or a Polaroid.”
(Mike Heine reports)
Posted by: bernd | March 31, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
She does admit, however, observing that the Fat Boys are in jail because they failed.
“In jail
In jail
In jail because we failed
We’re in jail
in jail
in jail because we’re fat”
Just trying to stay with the weighty themes here. Elections – heavy beat, yo.
Posted by: Ule | March 31, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
On January 30, 2007, Senator Barack Obama introduced the Iraq War De-escalation Act of 2007. In describing the proposed legislation he announced the goal of removing ALL U.S. combat forces from Iraq by March 31, 2008.” Now, of course, he’s moving away from his progressive history and is trying to move toward the middle by stating that he will leave troops in Iraq until ???? (fill in the blank)
An empty suit fluttering in the wind! And, his followers don’t seem to notice that they’re being abandoned with each utterance.
Posted by: Surelock Homes | March 31, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
Of course Hillary is willing to wait for the superdelegates to vote at the convention. What would be the point of having 1200 FBI files and not getting a chance to use them?
Posted by: Nick in Virginia | March 31, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
Hillary is clearly the one that is unelectable, notice how even though everyone in the US knows her and her husband she is losing the popular vote, elected delegates, the senate superdelegates and pretty much every measure of voting. If only they had video of her saying the “big boys” are bullying me because I’m sure she said it, then we could catch her in yet ANOTHER lie. Just like we saw her say, hey no fair the press is being mean to me waaahhhhh. Too bad she can’t use the crying on national television card again since she already pulled that one out twice. Looks like she has run out of cards to pull and excuses for losing.
Posted by: Cindy | March 31, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
Everyone keeps telling Hillary to quit, which increases sympathy towards her. This will eventually make her supporters unhappy & furious and as a result more active and eager to win the subsequent primaries that will hurt Obama.
I like Hillary but everyone knows from the indecisive statements that she will do “anything” to win not only this election but also 2012 sacrificing American values; even at the cost of striking a couple of more blows to the civil liberties as long as she in the game. I believe with Obama there is chance to change the politics of this nation; instead of the White house run by lobbyist and corporation, we the Americans can take over as the framers intended it to be.
Posted by: adnan latif | March 31, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
The question is why Obama scared of competing in the primaries?
He dows not want Florida and Michigan to weigh in. He wants to shutdown the process.
It shows he is a weak general election candidate.
His racist, anti-american pastor will take down Obama in every primary starting Pennsylvania.
Of course, he does not want to compete because he knows he will lose now on.
Posted by: Roger Miller | March 31, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
I suppose she “misspoke” again. hrmph. more like right out lied. this woman is shady shady shady.
There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY for Hillary to get ahead in pledged delegates. There is VERY LITTLE chance she’ll win the popular vote. So my question to you Hillary Supporters is: Do you think a Hillary win is worth the severe political repercussions (if you think there will be none then you’re an idiot) arising from superdelegates overriding Obama’s pledge delegate lead and popular vote win. Let’s forget about simple fairness. my question is, are you willing to support a Hillary even though her winning may lead a break in the democratic party.
Posted by: Maurice)( | March 31, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Interesting…. I was sick yesterday and spent some time looking into all the blogs in the internet. You can see the same blog with a different name or the same name over and over again posted all through the web sites by Obama supporters. What is it? Is his campaign paying people to post in the blogs? The more you read the blogs, the less substance and the more insults. It is like Obama; no substance only a shell.
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | March 31, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Hillary will not end her campaign until she milks her supporters out of every dime, so that she can pay off her campaign debts.
To leave now means to stop taking donations.
Posted by: Love | March 31, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
This is the rule that whoever wins 2025 delegates is the nominee of the party. The process should go on until that person secured 2025 delegates. Plain and simple. No one has the right to call the other to drop out.
Posted by: V,CA | March 31, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
It is time for HRC to get out! She wants to return to the White House again and resume looting and plundering.There will NEVER be another Clinton in the White House! HRC-where are those tax returns? Are you hiding the source of that five million? Was it your share of the “great Pardon Sales”?
Posted by: Jim from Marina California | March 31, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Neither one will get the delegates they need in the primaries. So what are the super delegates waiting for.
Posted by: lulu | March 31, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
No bias was showin in this article. It was basically a transcript. Pretty silly “dialog” on this comment board. HRC people, keep living in a deluded world, but the math is very much against your candidate. Good luck to her. The longer she stays in, the more harm she does to her political future.
Posted by: Sam | March 31, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
Obama supporters only go personal and only on things with no proof which is dirty politics. You should start your arguments with “According to Obama and his supporters, Hillary …..” Why don’t you try to defend your candidate based on his qualifications? I guess it is because you might have a huge problem; he is so underqualified when you compare him to Hillary that you only need to go with insults and bla bla bla…. No substance, like your candidate.
Go HILLARY!
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | March 31, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Hillary is so incompetent to run a campaign, that she needs the assistance of Bill and Chelsea to campaign against one man.
HaHaHaHaha!
Bill and Chelsea is on the campaign trail as often as her. Obama does not receive that kind of support from his surrogates.
Obama is the lone man, who is whipping the Clintons’ (you know what). Still, you question his qualifications.
In addition, will you women voters be willing to vote for a woman is she were black?
Not!
Posted by: Love | March 31, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Ned,
nobody here missed that Kennedy story; check Jake’s recent posts for the JFK-Obama myth.
Posted by: greg | March 31, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
TCG,
No, I would say they are Beltway elitists that do not want the voice of working class Democrats heard. We’re getting down in the trenches with some authentic class warfare.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 31, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
The whole idea that Hillary (who’s campaign is bankrupt already) would be a stronger fighter against the GOP, while Obama has shown every her every corner time and again, is just too plain silly for words.
With 10 contests to go, Hillary is already as good as knock out. A strong fighter, you said? Gimme a break. More and more she and her campaign look like a bunch of amateurs next to the champ of this game.
And he beats the whole family, the whole Machine! What a guy.
Posted by: gregory | March 31, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Hillary Clinton has every right to stay in the race. – She just has NO GOOD REASON to stay in the race.
She has only the very slightest chances to gain the nomination and under such a scenario she has torn the party into two and nixed the Dem ticket’s chances against McCain in the fall.
———-
She is staying in the race to the end only to bargain her supporters for the VP slot. Obama will be held down by putting her on the ticket but may have to anyway under this scenario.
————
It’s all about the Clinton ego – not what’s good for America.
I voted this woman into the senate – can’t stand her now.
Posted by: PulSamsara | March 31, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
HER REPONSE WAS
Clinton: “No , I did not. … I never said that. I’m always amazed when I read things I supposedly said that I never said. Look, I think that what is going on with people trying to shut this process down is very counterproductive.
BOSNIA WE GOT OFF THE PLANE AND CHELSEA AND I HAD TO RUN..
SHE FORGET THINGS ALL THE TIME. REMEMBER SLEEP DEPRIVED…WELL MAYBE WHEN SHE MADE THAT STATEMENT SHE WAS SLEEP DEPRIVED AGAIN..MAYBE SHE SHOULD GET THAT LOOKED AT
Posted by: LAUEPOW | March 31, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
HRC has not shown good management skills in running her organization. She has “mis-spoken, mis-stated” facts! Her organization seems to be unable to manage finaces i.e. Pay the Bills in a timely manner. If she is incapable of efficiently running her personal election organization, why should we believe she can be an effective manager as the President?
Posted by: Jim from Marina California | March 31, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
Clinton can drop out tomorrow. Will anyone on this side then support Obama? Not a chance in this life or the next.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 31, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
This woman sees the Big Boys trying to bully Hillary out of the race – and I won’t forget it come November.
Go Hillary!! or Go McCain!! (In fact, I’m thinking of voting a straight Republican ticket for the first time in my life. See, Obama has united us!)
Posted by: HoosierSue | March 31, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Should we thank the Hillary supporters now for our conservative Supreme Court. That is my biggest fear. So I will vote for a dem no matter what.
Posted by: maryland | March 31, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
A mathematical possibility?
Rick Sloan, Communications Director for the International Machinists and
Aerospace Workers Union, today emailed this scenario to the media:
1247 Delegates: Hold on to the 1247 pledged delegates HRC has amassed since
January 3rd
1497: Maintain the support of the 250 super delegates who have endorsed her
candidacy already
1648: Add 151 pledged delegates to her total with ten point wins in
Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Kentucky and Puerto Rico
1860: Add another 122 pledged delegates by winning or placing a close second in
Guam, Indiana, North Carolina, Oregon, Montana and South Dakota
2046: Seat the Florida and Michigan delegations adding 186 pledged delegates to
her total
2095: By seating the Florida and Michigan delegations, she gains 49 uncommitted
delegates or super delegates
2215: Secure the votes of 120 of the 330 remaining super delegates to surpass
the 2208 delegates to be nominated
– Rick Sloan, International Machinists and Aerospace Workers Union [Note: If
Florida and Michigan delegates are counted -- as Sloan does in the above
scenario -- the winning number grows to 2,208]
I say we are going to WIN!
Posted by: Ned | March 31, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Holy Moly. What’s wrong? The “Big Boys” can’t handle the TRUTH? Why would anyone even question this remark IF she DID say it? SO WHAT?! They ARE trying to bully her out of the campaign and they are alienating a HUGE block of Democratic voters in the process. Just to give them a heads up….. THIS typical 52 year old white woman won’t be voting for ANYONE who disenfranchises MI and FL voters. THAT would be Mr. Hope. Got that, BIG BOYS? You won’t be bullying THIS woman.
Posted by: Vickie | March 31, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Gender Victims -
The ‘big-boys’ (including Nancy) would have been pushing anyone out had they performed as Hillary Clinton has. MALE or FEMALE – they would both be sent androgynously packing.
Posted by: PulSamsara | March 31, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
if she wins this election bill will run the country while she is in the white house stealing! lol
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
and yes, even then the Clintons through the CGI will come in and help us too.
The Clintons will continue to do good works throughout the world and people will continue to seek their counsel and want to know what they think about issues that affect this world-just as they always have.
and not matter how much you trash them-the record of the good these people do will stand.
Posted by: jgaw | March 31, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
if she wins this election bill will run the country while she is in the white house stealing! lol
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
If Hillary drops out of the competition and Obama is the nominee, we will see a big THANK YOU published in all newspapers and blogs throughout the US from President McCain
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | March 31, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Melissa,
You are speaking the truth. However, people don’t care about that – not while RACISM is in the air.
Racism trumps everything! You will never get a Clinton supporter to own up to that fact.
Posted by: Love | March 31, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Obama is favorite among Senate SuperDelegatee. It tells me that the Senate has been more impressed by the young Senator from Illinois than by the Old Witch who stole the nomination of NY, a State she never belonged to.
Here’s the list:
OBAMA (14)
Robert P. Casey, Jr.
Kent Conrad
Christopher J. Dodd
Byron L. Dorgan
Richard J. Durbin
Tim Johnson
Edward M. Kennedy
John Kerry
Amy Klobuchar
Patrick J. Leahy
Claire McCaskill
Ben Nelson
Barack Obama
John D. Rockefeller
CLINTON (12)
Evan Bayh
Maria Cantwell
Hillary Rodham Clinton
Dianne Feinstein
Daniel Inouye
Blanche Lambert Lincoln
Robert Menendez
Barbara Mikulski
Patty Murray
Mark Pryor
Charles E. Schumer
Sheldon Whitehouse
Posted by: greg | March 31, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
To the Clinton supporters,
Please join us.
This has to be extremely hard. For months — over a year, some of you — you’ve been working for and speaking about and maybe donating to the Clinton campaign, only to watch it fail so close to the finish line. Maybe you think she will somehow still win the nomination, against all odds. But most of you know she will not. And that’s hard to swallow.
We know. We would have had a really, really hard time with this, too. We Obama supporters are happy that our candidate has done well, we’re happy that he appears to be on his way to the nomination. We think Obama is great, and that he’ll be a great President.
But we don’t have to hate you to do it.
In fact, Clinton supporters, we will need your help to take back the White House. 2008 should be a banner year for Democrats — but only if we can stop fighting amongst ourselves long enough to make it one.
Hillary has every right to stay in the contest. She has almost no chance of winning, but she can stay in it just in case, and she should. But that doesn’t mean it serves our interests as a party for you, her supporters, to continue to tear down Obama, or state that you would rather vote for McCain. That’s silly. McCain would be an awful president, a third Bush term, and no Hillary supporter should want that. She’s even told you not to do it. Will you listen?
I would gladly vote for Hillary over McCain. Hillary and Obama’s policy stances are virtually identical. Please, don’t let your anger towards the candidate who beat your favorite affect your choice. Start thinking about how you’ll pivot in your mind from “I support Hillary” to “I support the Democrat, because I’m tired of 8 years of GOP control of the White House.”
We’ll need your help and your voices to make this happen.
sincerely,
your Obama friends
Posted by: dan | March 31, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Do all of you obama people not realize if you anger MI & FL voters there is no way he can win in November. So stop talking rules the Democrats need these two states for a win.
Posted by: toby | March 31, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
just like hilary to pretend to be some “tough guy” then cry about things.. do you need a pillow hilary?
dont cry about going first, thats what the prez does takes charge!! what would she do when she got to be prez and a hard question pops up ask if they would call obama first? lol
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
maryland-Conservative Supreme Court Hillary supporter fault? Have you somehow lost your mind? The democrats in congress, and the senate, who are the voting majority, actually do the voting in Supreme Court Judges. So when have us Hillary supporters been given this Wright to eliminate congress and the senate from the process? And why not hold democrats responsible for their choices instead of writing garbage?
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 31, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
hilary is being bullied again! boo hoo… thank god she is so tough…
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
SHE’S IN IT TO WIN IT..
SHE CANT,,BUT HILLARY CANT STOP SHE IS CRAZED WITH WINNING.SHE ASKING FOR MORE MONEY…SHE PLANS ON FIGHTING .EVEN IF THE FIGHTING TAKES HER TO THE SUPREME COURT.
SHE IS AND WILL DESTROY THE PARTY..JUST LIKE SHE HAD HER ATTACK DOG GO AFTER GOV. RICHARDSON, IS WHAT SHE WILL DO TO ANYBODY WHO STANDS IN HER WAY.
SUPERS CAN END THIS ALL BY SUPPORTING BARACK. DO IT BEFORE SHE IMPLODES THIS PARTY.
Posted by: LAUEPOW | March 31, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Hillary is kidding herself and fooling others that somehow she will win the nominaiton. If she were that good, given all the money and party machinery she had, she would have clinched it long time before McCain did. She just isn’t that good. She boasts all these cooked up 35 years of experience, and Americans have serious problem recalling even one single achievement. She shared a bed with a former president, if that is the hallmark, even there she was not that good, because he went looking for another. She is a nagging lady, will say anything and do anything just to get elected. She had no repect for other candidates or other party members. All are supposed to be slaves to her highness.
There are some folks who think the clintons are somehow entitled to the presidency, no one else can have it. That is slavery, not loyalty. She has not even paid those who arranged her campaign shops in Ohio. What does that speak of a candidate, who for all the talk and talk and talk, cannot pay the poor business owners. She tells lies right and left. Last week, it was Bosnia snipers, and this week, her opposition to NAFTA.
I am an independent, but am getting sick of someone like her wasting Americans time and resources and bullying around, crying foul at the same time. She is not a good player, she is a cheat. I prefer McCain or Obama, both come across as possessing more character and decency than Hillary.
Posted by: mona | March 31, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
It would be perilous for me to say, ‘You know, Barack Obama won x,y and z. That’s not enough electoral votes
BUT IT WASNT PERILOUS FOR HER TO SUGGEST
HE COULD BE HER VP.
Posted by: Lauren | March 31, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Love-I am interested in YOUR definition of racism here on the Hillary side. What is the racism you see? And what is YOUR definition of racism?
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 31, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Greg
I hear the Hillary fights for the working man, but what is she doing hanging out with a superdelegate named “Sheldon”? I bet he wears a bow tie and everything. Doesn’t seem right to me. The more I look at Hillary, the more it seems that the working man ends up with the Shaft when she’s around.
And BTW …. Maria Cantwell is a squish. She has recently said she will ultimately support the candidate with the most pledged delegates, whoever that may be. She must be anti-womyn, too, just like that Leahy character.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 31, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
QUESTION: Can Hillary still win the nomination?
OBAMA ANSWER: No way. This is over. All of the polls show that she can’t win enough delegates to overcome Obama’s lead.
QUESTION: Speaking of polls. Most polls show Obama losing in many blue states that Kerry won and he is not ahead in a single red state. How can he win?
OBAMA ANSWER: We don’t believe in polls.
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | March 31, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
the high road? like when you wrote obama wins= america loses? clinton fan! practice what you preach first second of all, we have had enough of the clintons who have brough more bad than good.. take that and your high road with you !!!
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
GREG WELL SAID. THANKS FOR PUTTING UP THE INFO.
Posted by: Lauren | March 31, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
melissa-You do have a way of WINNING support FOR Obama with your posts, you think?
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 31, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
To Definitely Common Sense,
Barack Obama is not favored to win because of polls, but because of actual votes and actual delegates. Polls can predict how well each candidate is likely to do in the few remaining contests, but are inaccurate at best, you’re right. But that no affect on the lead in delegates Obama has amassed. It is simply too late in the contest for a Clinton comeback to be likely. There is nothing disingenuous about stating this fact.
Posted by: dan | March 31, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
This story is not relevant. It does not matter if she said it or not. The relevant point is that we have politicians backing Obama that want to shut down a race which will deny millions of people from being heard. It really makes you wonder why they are trying to control the outcome and what they are afraid of….if Obama is the best candidate then he should do well in the remaining primaries. The president represents all americans and why not hear from everyone including MI and FL? If Obama’s camp shuts down Clinton then his candidacy will be viewed as illegitmate because not all folks have spoken. This is an exciting race and has energized many americans. This is something to be proud of. Again if Obama is truely the best candidate then he should do well in all remaining contests including FL and MI.
Posted by: terry | March 31, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Toby,
I’m sorry you feel insulted that Obama supporters are reaching out to Hillary supporters. But it happens every election cycle. At some point, the eventual winner triumphs over the eventual runner-up, and the winner’s supporters court those of the runner-up. This is not new.
As an Obama supporter, I would certainly expect and demand that if Hillary were to win the nomination, her campaign would reach out to me and other Obama supporters to join her campaign. We are all Democrats, and John McCain is guaranteed a November victory if we cannot unite.
Our two candidates are extremely, extremely similar. It only makes sense for us to begin to figure out who will win and prepare to get behind that person for the general election. I hope you’ll reconsider your stance that “it’s too late for that” before November. We’ll need your help to win. Seriously.
Posted by: dan | March 31, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
How come Hillary is whining? Isn’t she supposed to be tough as the clintonite slaves say?
What happened to her TAX returns? She promised to release it before April 15th. Let us make sure she doesn’t cheat us once more. Waiting to see all the clinton connections, esp. their middle eastern corrupt arab donors.
if the clintons were a decent lot, they would have gone to do something like what Gore is doing. Instead, they set up a frontface for money laundering. All their tax returns since Clinton left office must be brought to light!!!
Posted by: Geo | March 31, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Now, Let us wait for Pennsylvania to speak. Then, the new narrative begins. The pundits will be talking about how the “Wright Effect” was under-estimated. How the pollsters will start saying how they over-estimated the key demographic turn out.
Let me make a prediction here. Casey will be a one-term Senator.
Posted by: Roger Miller | March 31, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Dan,
I am a black woman, and a Hillary supporter-I will never vote for Obama-
because I know how this race has been won for him-through listening to the black radio stations.
Obama is not and has not been winning on the issues-and that is not the way to win.
If Obama was trying to halfway win because he is better that hillary on the issues I would vote for him.
but he is not. and I will not vote for him. at 53, I have lived through and came out alright through incompetent
presidents, and if hillary does not win
I will be all right through either of these two. obama and mccain
but obama will not get my vote.
I want the smartest person to be president. why would I settle for anyone less? No Obama-he is not the right first black to be president. and if he gets it-he is going to be so bad that a black will probally not have a chance to become president until all of us are dead. and a really new crop of votes have come along.
I want a black president-but not this guy-because he is not the smartest.
Posted by: jgaw | March 31, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
THE NUMBER 1 ISSUE IS THE ECONOMY RIGHT?
THEN EXPLAIN WHY ANYONE WOULD WANT HILLARY? SHE IS NOT PAYING HER BILLS ON TIME WOULD AND BETTER YET DO WE WANT HER ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE PEOPLES MONEY..TO PAY THE COUNTRY’S BILLS. BOY ARE WE IN TROUBLE. THE ARE GUYS SERVING OVERSEA DEFENDING THIS COUNTY ..YOU KNOW THE WAR SHE VOTED FOR..WONT GET THE EQUIPMENT AND PAY FOR SERVING UNDER HER.
Posted by: LAUEPOW | March 31, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
Aston
How kind of you.
I am actually a “hurt” “old man”!
Thank you for your advice though, I ma sure you have my best interests at heart
Posted by: MC | March 31, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
MC,
While not mathematically impossible, it would be extremely unlikely for the scenario you describe to unfold. That’s why so many in the Democratic party have begun talking about when the race can end, how Hillary can exit gracefully, and how the party can unite behind Obama.
If her chances of winning were as good as this projection makes them sound, none of this would be happening.
Unfortunately for Hillary, she has already lost too many contests by too wide of margins to finish ahead now (even with FL and MI).
By the way, I share the frustration on FL and MI of several of you. I wish they could re-vote as well. But this problem was not caused by Barack, so you should not blame him for it. He is abiding by the DNC rules, the same ones Hillary agreed to abide by. They are each innocent bystanders. Hopefully some agreement can still be reached that will satisfy both sides. But in the meantime, we would all do well to avoid casting blame and smearing other Democrats. It will not help us in November. None of this matters if we lose in November.
Posted by: dan | March 31, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Dan-Most of us on this side will vote for Obama if the only other choice we have left is Osama Bin Laden.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 31, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
The number one isssue is the economy and hillary does have the answers to help. More so that obama-obama has just copied hillary on everything. and he does have more handlers with more money
but she is fighting for the working folk. and we all know how much money they have.
and yes obama will need the hillary supporters-but he will not get them
so hello President Mccain.
Posted by: jgaw | March 31, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
do we get back the money she already cost us? can we afford to have her as prez? with economy the way it is now we need to think about this..
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
MONA
HILLARY WILL SAY AND DO WHAT EVER SHE NEEDS TO DO TO WIN INCLUDING IMPLODING HER OWN PARTY..SHE AGREES TO FOLLOW THE RULES ONLY WHEN SHE’S WINNING. BUT HE–S BELLS IF IM LOSING THEY DONT COUNT. HILLARY THINKS THAT THE PARTY IS HERS AND HERS ALONE. NOT..
SUPERS ARE SMART THEY WILL NOT LET HER TAKE THEM DOWN. SHE IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE A SORE LOSER.
Posted by: LAUEPOW | March 31, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Dan,
You say unlikely, therefore it is also still “likely”. If all things aligned as Sloan said.
I totally agree regarding improbability, but will hold out for possibility.
As far as Mi and Fl. it was widely reported, even on this blog, that Obama supporters in both legislatures blocked votes on a re-vote.
The term used re Mi. was they caused the clock to run down to recess.
Posted by: MC | March 31, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Obama is more popular than Clinton. However, Clinton has put forth some good proposals with substance in them. Obama has copied Clinton’s proposals in several cases. Obama obviously thinks Clinton’s proposals are good since he is using them. If you take “popularity” out of the criteria for electing a president…who would be the best candidate for democrats? We currently have an unpopular president so I don’t think electing a president because you “like them” is a good criteria. Obama has a lot of support but he owes a lot folks. He also has a lot of baggage that Axelrod is trying to suppress…the sandals are many…just search for Rezko, Rev. Wright, Larry Sinclair, etc… Either the scandals will come out or they will be used to blackmail Obama thus rendering him ineffective as a president. People forget that he is half white and half African-American. He is currently siding with Republicans on foreign policy–he will use the same Bush policies just like McCain.
Posted by: terry | March 31, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
How come Hillary and her supporters cry wolf and whine a lot. She is like Huckbee, free to stay or quit. But, as a small business owner, I want to make sure she pays all the poor small business owners in Ohio who were so trusting to work for her campaign and put up campaign shops for her. She cheated us by not paying us, and worse, did not even return our calls. What a president she will be if she has no ethics? She should immediately pay. Otherwise, we are taking her to court soon. SHAME ON YOU HILLARY AND YOUR SUPPORTERS. FIRST PAY US!!!
Posted by: lisa_from_Ohio | March 31, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Obama on Don Omus:
“He didn’t just cross the line,” Obama said. “He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America. The notions that as young African-American women — who I hope will be athletes — that that somehow makes them less beautiful or less important. It was a degrading comment. It’s one that I’m not interested in supporting.”
“Insults, humor that degrades women, humor that is based in racism and racial stereotypes isn’t fun,” the senator told ABC News.
“And the notion that somehow it’s cute or amusing, or a useful diversion, I think, is something that all of us have to recognize is just not the case. We all have First Amendment rights. And I am a constitutional lawyer and strongly believe in free speech, but as a culture, we really have to do some soul-searching to think about what kind of toxic information are we feeding our kids,” he concluded.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 31, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
John McCain’s Ancestors own Slaves and had a history of discrimination in this Country. The ads John McCain’s running says that he will be the “American President” is disgraceful. The Clinton’s Ancestors probable own Slaves as well.
John McCain is a lightweight and past politics, he should retire from the Senator.
John Edwards will endorse Obama.
I Hope Obama pick John Edwards as VP.
Posted by: Lookup | March 31, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Thanks Dogsoldier,
That was a good one.
Looks like the only people who have been “hoodwinked” are the obama supporters.
Posted by: jgaw | March 31, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
you want me to say something on or against a book i havent read by what you have put on here? let me read it and i will get back to you! i dont care what is says tho i will never vote clinton…
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Anyone know how Obama treated Reverend Wright as opposed to Don Imus? Did Obama have HIS children in the Wright pews?
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 31, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
Thanks Dogsoldier,
That was a good one.
Looks like the only people who have been “hoodwinked” are the obama supporters
———————————— now give hilary supporters a “hoodwinked” vote too.. before they cry. following her threw the lies and crimes gets them a nomination!
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
DOGSOLDIER
ALL BOYS AROUND THAT AGE WANT AND NEED TO BE LIKE THEIR FATHERS. DONT MAKE MORE OF THAT IT NEEDS TO BE. NO PUT A BOY OF A DIFFERENT COLOR THAN THOSE AROUND HIM ..I AM MOST ASSURED THAT THERE ARE CHILDREN THAT POINTED ITOUT. FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE MY GRANDDAUGHTER IS AFRICAN AMERICAN AND HER PARENTS ARE WHITE .A GIRL TOLD HER SHE MUST BE ADOPTED BECAUSE HER BROTHER IS WHITE AND SHE NOT. SHE SAID HER MOM SAID SHE COULDNT PLAY WITH HER ANYMORE. I AM SURE THE MORE PEOPLE TREAT YOU DIFFERENTLY THE MORE YOU ARE DIFFERENT THE MORE YOU WANT TO BE ACCEPTED BY SOMEONE.
Posted by: LAUEPOW | March 31, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Dogsoldier,
I hope you’ll reconsider. If you’re a Hillary supporter, Obama wants the things you want — universal healthcare, out of Iraq, smart energy policy, help for middle class, etc. John McCain does not want these things. I hope by November you’ll consider a fresh look at Senator Obama.
jgaw,
I respect your decision to back Senator Clinton. But I hope you’ll reconsider backing Senator Obama when the time comes. Sitting back and watching will only make John McCain more likely to win in November. Barack Obama is far from perfect, but he has inspired millions upon millions of Americans to get involved and become part of changing this country for the better, including legions of young people who never thought politics was for them before. I hope you’ll at least take another look at Barack Obama before deciding based on spin and smears.
Posted by: dan | March 31, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
How many times did Obama throw his own grandmother under the bus is one week? Answer: two . . . so far.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 31, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
im not a typical white person of the 60′s … have you ever said he is a typical man? have you ever said she is a typical female? do you get all bent out of shape when you do? bet you dont!
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
A good leader:
1. Has INTEGRITY! (U listening, Hilary?)
2. Shares great affection with supporters/partners, and is about the common good over personal ambitions.
3. Has Big Picture vision for the nation.
3a. Knows that economics IS NOT ‘complicated’ if one is learned. (Listening George?) lol
4. Has the ability to motivate and mobilize citizens.
5. Has intelligent and practical plan to materilize vision.
6. Has the stones to take decision on life and death over sworn enemies!
7. Is President Barack Obama
Posted by: New Yorker | March 31, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
not telling a lie= throwing someone under a bus? wow!
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Sorry, for this post, it is trite.
However, If one were asked “how Obama’s bowling is like his campaign”.
would it be fair to answer “They both always drop off into the gutter”?
Again Sorry, If I had not come up with it, some other “goof-ball” would have sooner or later.
Posted by: MC | March 31, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Melissa,
In fairness, I hope you’ll agree with me, Obama supporter to Obama supporter, that Hillary Clinton would be a much better president than John McCain. The Supreme Court justices she’d appoint, the Iraq policy she’d enact, the domestic work she’d do, etc.
I don’t personally think she has the ability to unite the country and turn the page on the Bush-Clinton stalemate like Barack does, but let’s be honest. McCain would be an absolute disaster. I would vote for Hillary in a heartbeat if it were her and McCain, and I think you would too. Right? It’s only fair to admit that we would support the Democratic party over our individual preferences; that’s what we’re about to ask all the Hillary supporters across the country to do.
Posted by: dan | March 31, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
I can tell you one thing, no matter what happens, I will not be voting for John McCain in November. It doesn’t matter how much mudslinging goes on between Hillary and Barack, in the end they will still both look like white knights in shining armor compared to him.
Come on, people! Are any of you really considering voting for him if your “preferred” democratic candidate doesn’t get nominated? (abstaining might just as well be voting for him too). That is just plain crazy to me.
Posted by: Suzie | March 31, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
I don’t care if she said it or not. If she did it’s true.
Posted by: Tina D | March 31, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
LAUEPOW-This is a piece I wrote on racism in an earlier blog. Do you agree with the following?
Racism? Racism is a living thing meaning many different definitions in many times and in all human cultures. It changes with time and culture and methods. It is sometimes nebulous and sometimes harsh and real as it was in every other time and in every other culture. Each is unique and real and isolating as it was and as it will be tomorrow. It lives and grows because we wish it to live and grow as in every other time and in every other place. Racism lives because we are human beings, fraught with human frailties and emotions and faults. It will not disappear tomorrow nor should we fear to see ourselves as hosts of an age old condition few of us understand. Yet, we are also its answer and its hope here in our own time and in our place.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 31, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
i will say this i dont want a war for 100 years! i dont want to worry that my son will be dragged into a war that has done what it could already…and i dont think our economy will fix itself.. im praying it wont come to hilary and mccain..
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Can someone listen to this person Lisa from Ohio? Obviously, Hillary has not paid her bills to the small business owners and her campaign is not even responding to their requests for payment. This is really bad for a candidate who talks and talks about how she cares for the Americans. Stop all your useless talks clintonites, and pay these Ohio folks first!!!
Posted by: dave | March 31, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
New Yorker: Hillary Clinton may be able to do those things while ducking and dodge “sniper fire”.
Posted by: Lookup | March 31, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
This woman is the biggest coward…playing the sexist card once again. I’m a woman and I take offense whenever Hillary whines like a prissy girl. This is why we get stereotyped in the first place, because of women like Hillary who just keep playing into the stereotypes that women will cry to get what they want. Listen, sweetheart, if you can’t stand the heat, then get out of politics…that’s what your husband says. It goes for you too. I’ve come too far in my career to have someone like Hillary pushing us back ten years.
Posted by: Maureen | March 31, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
I FEEL ASHAMED OF HILLARY AND HER CAMPAIGN. THEY SHOULD PAY THE OHIO SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS FIRST. POOR FOLKS, HOW CAN THE CLINTONS CHEAT THEM?
Posted by: MC | March 31, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Where Clinton said it or not. It’s the truth. She is being bully out of the race. Had she been a man, it would not of happened. Underline sexism has played a huge roll in this election and the media.
Ordinarily, perhaps, sexism may not have been so easily dismissed had Hillary Clinton’s last name been Jones, instead of Clinton.
I hope when this election is all over with, John McCain has won. The media will take a good long hard look at itself. As will the viewers. In the end, being called a sexist is not as damaging as being labeled racist. Which is why Barack Obama got a free ride to the democratic nomination!
Posted by: Jacob | March 31, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
LISA FROM OHIO
HILLARY USES PEOPLE.JUST TO GET THEIR VOTES ..SHE DOESNT HAVE TO PAY OHIOIANS RIGHT AWAY SHE ALREADY GOT YOUR VOTE YOU ARE NOW USELESS TO HER WELCOME TO NEW YORK
Posted by: LAUEPOW | March 31, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
A day without Clinton is like a..like a…MY GOSH – WOULDN’T WE ALL LOVE TO KNOW WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE!!!??
Posted by: c'est moi | March 31, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
lisa_from_Ohio-Please present the bill from the affected individuals or companies along with dates, businesses, and invoices. Thank you.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 31, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
NOW SHE’S DUCKING AND RUNNING TO HER AWAITING CAR….THE SNIPERS ARE THE BUSINESS THAT SHE HAS SCREWED.
I HOPE THEY ALL DID NOT VOTE FOR HER?
Posted by: Lauren | March 31, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
CLINTONS ARE SHAMELESS, NEITHER THEY RELEASE THEIR TAX RETURNS AND NOR DO THEY PAY THEIR BILLS. THEY HAVE COLLECTED MILLIONS AND MILLIONS FROM LOBBYISTS AND ARABS, WHERE IS ALL THAT MONEY? PAY THE POOR OHIO FOLKS FIRST!!!
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 31, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Maureen-You seem to be doing your own fair share of whining. Or, you have become what you accuse of Clinton, a whiner.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 31, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
i am glad that obama ran even if he doesnt win.. i have seen many posts here and in other places. i have seen who i would think to be good people leave some kool-aid remarks and some just down right racist remarks. i want people to think about who they are really talking about – american’s some good some bad. we need to think about this . how can we ever talk about terrorism needs to end when we do it to ourself?
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Dan: Not for long. Still a long road to go and the superdelegates will realize that on the states Obama won (mostly caucuses states) he won because republicans were voting for him to prevent Hillary to be the candidate, things will change for the benefit of the party. And don’t tell me the delegates cannot change, you have Richardson and Kennedy both from states that voted Hillary and they are voting now Obama; so the same thing can happen with the Obama delegates. This is not about Obama, it is about the party; and Hillary has better chances to beat McCain than Obama (when we talk about real democrats voting in November not “temporary democrats-real republicans voting for Obama so Hillary is defeated” in the caucuses. We still have several states to go and PR and at least in PA and PR she is going to win.
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | March 31, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Hillary Rodham Clinton’s cash-strapped presidential campaign has been putting off paying hundreds of bills for months — freeing up cash for critical media buys but also earning the campaign a reputation as something of a deadbeat in some small-business circles.
A pair of Ohio companies owed more than $25,000 by Clinton for staging events for her campaign are warning others in the tight-knit event production community — and anyone else who will listen — to get their cash upfront when doing business with her. Her campaign, say representatives of the two companies, has stopped returning phone calls and e-mails seeking payment of outstanding invoices. One even got no response from a certified letter.
Their cautionary tales, combined with published reports about similar difficulties faced by a New Hampshire landlord, an Iowa office cleaner and a New York caterer, highlight a less-obvious impact of Clinton’s inability to keep up with the staggering fundraising pace set by her opponent for the Democratic presidential nomination, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.
Clinton’s campaign did not respond to recent, specific questions about its transactions with vendors.
Posted by: dave | March 31, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Label me, or the fact that I would never vote for Obama, anyway you like.
The fact remains that my vote is mine. I consider Obama and Axelrod 2 of the greatest “con artists” this nation has ever seen.
Also, I find the far-left supporters of Obama all too reminiscent of the far-right wing Republicans that I have detested and fought against for decades.
Under no circumstance would I align myself with Obama/Dean/MoveOn!
I will let others decide, and have clean hands and a clear conscience.
I am not responsible for Dubya’s debacle, and I will not be responsible for an Obama or McCain fiasco.
Posted by: MC | March 31, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
i see things complete different- i dont see hilary being able to take mccain! i think he would chew her up and spit her out! she has too much dirt he can use against her…
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
DOG SOLDIER
VERY NICE ARTICLE . IF ONLY IT WOULD BE GONE TOMMORROW.
BUT IT DOESNT HELP WHEN MAYBE GOOD INTENTIONS OF OTHERS.ITS STILL THERE AND STILL HURTS. ADULTS CAN DEFLECT IT CHILDREN CANNOT IT BECOMES THEM. I AM SURE WHEN MY GRANDDAUGHTER GETS OLDER SHE WILL SEEK HER HER ANCESTORY AND MIGHT AND PROBABLY WILL GET A LTTLE DEFENSIVE TOWARDS OTHERS OF NOT HER SKIN COLOR. BUT ONE THING SHE WILL ALWAYS KNOW SHE IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE A GREAT HUMAN BEING AND SHE IS LOVED BEYOND WORDS.
Posted by: LAUEPOW | March 31, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Has racism been a terrible scar on this country’s past? Of course. No one in their right mind can deny that. But picking at the wound never allows it to heal. It’s been 40 years since Dr. King was murdered. Did he die so that people could wrap themselves up in the world of past hurts rather than trying to make his dream a reality? Until we as a country decide that we are ready to heal, we never will. That goes for all races.
I think the most disheartening thing about all this is that just when we think we as a society are making progress, we find out that some of those we saw as our partners in moving forward are actually moving in reverse.
I feel a great deal of sorrow for my fellow Democrats who voted for Obama thinking that he was going to move this country forward. He chose to associate with Rev. Wright for 20 years, he chose to view him as a mentor and spiritual adviser, and he chose to put him on his campaign up until only a couple of days ago. Hillary didn’t make that happen. The media didn’t make that happen. The Republicans didn’t make that happen. Obama did.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 31, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Well if you want to talk about not paying bill. Barack Obama had the audacity not to paid his parking fee, tickets, other fees and fines totally in the thousands, in Boston and NY. Thousands of dollars when unpaid from the time Obama was in college, until right before he started to run for president.
Posted by: Jordon | March 31, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Most amazing about the writeup on this page is Sen. Clinton’s comments that “What Barack was afraid of with Michigan I’ll never understand…” This is a blatant admission, in my opinion, that she ALWAYS intended to scam the system, pretending to go along with the Party decision to exclude MI, but really playing this devious game of shadow campaigning so she could claim the state’s delegates later. So, so dishonest, so long-term devious. I want a smart president, but not a devious one. We’ve already tried that. It doesn’t work so well.
Posted by: Dennis | March 31, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Common Sense,
You are right that nothing is yet final. But the idea that Obama only won caucus states because huge numbers of Republicans voted for him in some sort of “conspiracy theory” is silly on its face. Obama had an extremely well-organized campaign, and won these caucuses outright. Hillary knew the rules of the game when she started; complaining after-the-fact about the way they were set up is unproductive.
DogSoldier,
You can consult with the FEC for records detailing Hillary’s unpaid bills for Ohio firms; the story has been well-reported and is accurate. Starting from her $5 million loan to her campaign, her financial difficulties have been well-documented. It is a matter of public record that she has outstanding payments to Ohio firms. She is also behind several hundred thousand dollars in paying her own staff’s health care benefits, if you can believe it. Unfortunately this is how struggling campaigns often die — not for lack of enthusiasm on the part of the candidate or his/her most ardent supporters, but for lack of cash. It may be that she cannot sustain a full campaign through June because funds simply run out.
Posted by: dan | March 31, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
AND PEOPLE WANT HER TO RUN THIS COUNTRY
OHIOIANS ..IF SHE WINS THE NOD REMEBER THAT IN NOV,
Hillary Rodham Clinton’s cash-strapped presidential campaign has been putting off paying hundreds of bills for months — freeing up cash for critical media buys but also earning the campaign a reputation as something of a deadbeat in some small-business circles.
A pair of Ohio companies owed more than $25,000 by Clinton for staging events for her campaign are warning others in the tight-knit event production community — and anyone else who will listen — to get their cash upfront when doing business with her. Her campaign, say representatives of the two companies, has stopped returning phone calls and e-mails seeking payment of outstanding invoices. One even got no response from a certified letter.
Their cautionary tales, combined with published reports about similar difficulties faced by a New Hampshire landlord, an Iowa office cleaner and a New York caterer, highlight a less-obvious impact of Clinton’s inability to keep up with the staggering fundraising pace set by her opponent for the Democratic presidential nomination, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.
Clinton’s campaign did not respond to recent, specific questions about its transactions with vendors.
Posted by: LAUEPOW | March 31, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Dogsoldier: I know you hate Obama what else do you have to offer:
Posted by: Lookup | March 31, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
If there was any dirt on Hillary, I am sure it would have been drug out during the 9 year long investigation the Repuiblicans did of her and her family. Duriong which the only dirt they found was that her husband lied to congrees about an extra-marital affair. Do you think Obama will be able to withstand the same scrutiny. No problems with lying about what he heard in church? nothing about his former finance committe member/slum lord buddy? Trust me if we were ti vette both of them today my money would be on Hillary
Posted by: George | March 31, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
please do not post info about clinton from Politico. that website is just a front for the obama campaign. ridiculous.
Posted by: tony | March 31, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Dan , your lament for HRC is touching.
However, I do remember, as we all probably do, seeing John McCain on the news carrying his own bag thru an airport. He was going to a campaign stop alone.
Out of cash! Out of Hope! Lets see, how did he wind up?
If HRC must do the same, I hope she will!
I will still be sending money, and will still vote for her alone.
Posted by: MC | March 31, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Everyone who talks badly about Obama, and the Rev. Wright….. Wake up. Look at our president now,he’s assocaited with a war monger in Cheney, a corrupt advisor in Libey, and total disregard for the constitution. The Constitution gives people religous freedom. If Obama was Muslim, you’d have an even worese reation to Wright.
Look at ole’ Hillary….She’s certainly no angel. Her biggest supporter was almost impeached from his presidency. Who is the better advisor? A guy who speaks to a few hundred people a week, and has no real power. Or a guy who leads millions of Americans, and is the ruler of the free world? I’ll talk the guy who’s supporter is just a Rev.
How can Hill be a good leader? Follow the lead of her husband? Come on, she is the kind of person who will pander to whoever she has to get to her husbands level.
Posted by: Brian | March 31, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Dan: Just wait and see; you will remember my words when the time comes.
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | March 31, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
HAVE ANY NON-WHITE OR FEMALE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ASKED CLINTON TO LEAVE? EMPIRCALLY, SHE IS RIGHT. STOP WHINING AND LIVE UP TO REALITY. SEXISM AND RACISM STILL EXIST IN THIS COUNTRY. IT’S SO PATEHTIC SEEING IT IN THE PARTY THAT SUPPOSEDLY CHAMPIONS EQUALITY. BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES. AT LEAST THE REPUBLICANS ARE UPFRONT WITH HOW THEY FEEL.
Posted by: tony | March 31, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Hillary – at what point will you exit?
You’re down to under %5 chance…at 1% do you drop out?
Are you even concerned with the damage to the party? Why not do a major speech to change our minds, if this is so important to you?
Both Democrats are moving down in the polls, and McCain moving up, due to the Democrat-on-Democrat attacks. It is true that these items would come out in the real election anyway, but then party of the damage would go to a Republican attacker!! Instead we just continue to shoot ourselves in the foot before we even get to the real fight!
It appears to me, this has turned in to an “All or nothing” effort on Clinton’s part. Either she wins this year, or she undermines the democratic candidate so she can win in 2012.
It’s funny you ask about the “Big Boys”, as the Clinton team is the “Big Boy” team. Just last week those big boys went to congress to try to through around their weight for Clinton.
I feel Obama will change things for the better, and that Clinton would change thing only to better the Clinton’s and their business partners. No wonder so many blindly loyal to her – their future paycheck depends on it!
The “Big Boy” support Obama has, is us – The American People. Lets not ignore that big boy!
Posted by: Loyal Democrat | March 31, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
This poor woman would not be capable of telling the truth if it bit her on her back pant suit.
The person who wrote the remarks, Adam Nagnourney, stands by his quote.
The remark which was uttered, I am sure, for women only. It was issued as a plea to beg them to come out in support of her. It is another pity plea for those women who are apparently unable to make decisions using reasoning and fact. It is the old “Poor me, those mean old boys are not playing fair with me”. Hillary has used this in the past and she’s trying to use it again. Is there anyone in this country who can still say they want this woman at the helm? ReallY? Reallt? She cannot run her campaign, it’s in debt, they fight and have real issues with the truth. She has now been caught lying numerous times and the sinper incident will follow her into any republican race she enters..and that’s ignoring the fact she cannot win without over turning the will of the people…so ReallY?
Posted by: Sam | March 31, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
george what about -Whitewater documentsAfter $80 million
dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr’s investigation led to Monica Lewinsky?
FALN terrorists?
$200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork she had stolen?
Hillary assumed authority over Health Care Reform, a process that cost the taxpayers over $13 million?
do you think these things will be brought up? couldnt he sink her in the fact that she has made up so many tall tails that people dont believe or at least second guess everything she has to say? how much money she cost us in her term as first wife and sen?
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
The American voters seem to have a way of “reversing fortunes, Dan.
As in the case of McCain.
Obama, even with all of his money could wind up being the Democrats’ Romney!
Posted by: MC | March 31, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
HILLARY IS A CHEAT. HER CAMPAIGN HAS NOT PAID US INSPITE OF REPEATED REQUESTS. WE ARE PLANNING TO SUE HILLARY FOR BREACH OF CONTRACT. THE CLINTONS HAVE MILLIONS FROM ALL THEIR LOBBYISTS AND DIRTY FOUNDATION MONEY. THEY DONT CARE A DIME FOR OHIO FOLKS LIKE US!!! HER SUPPORTERS AND HER CAMPAIGN STINKS!!!
Posted by: lisa_from_Ohio | March 31, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
For Sen. Clinton to say” For the life of me, what Barack Obama was afraid of understand Michigan, I’ll never understand”, is about as close to a lie as you can get!
She was trying to buy the election (rich supporters paying for it) after her supporters in Michigan (Granholm Levin etc) had made the problem by moving the election and wink wink leaving her name on the ballot. The other part of the proposal for a revote was about as devious. Any Democrat who had voted in the primary as a Republican (for the son of a popular ex govenor), could not vote in
the revote. Was that fair? Isn’t it likely that those Democrats were not big fans of Clinton, since they didn’t want to participate in the charade??? All Obama’s campaign had said was they wanted to study the proposal. Apparently a lot of state legislators studies it too and decided it was not good enough to put to a vote.
Barack Obama is a man of integrity. The proposal for a revote was flawed. Actually polls showed that he would do well in Michigan, but he saw the flaws in the system.
Now that we have the Bosnia video to illustrate one of Clinton’s lies. We can say it about the other things like she’ll “never understand” Obama’s position – she knows exactly why. She doesn’t understand a person of character and of principle, however.
Posted by: Joyce | March 31, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
MC,
I admire your dedication to Hillary! (I hope you will be just as dedicated to Obama when the time comes; if Hillary stands by his side at the convention and asks you to support him, will you?)
The difference between John McCain’s hitting rock bottom and Hillary’s is timing. McCain ran out of money and support in the summertime, months before voting began, and had time to recover. Hillary is running out of money and support now, almost April. 42 contests have already been held; only a small number are left. There is no time for her to recover.
I hope you’ll reconsider Barack Obama come this summer and fall. He really will make a strong, potentially transformative President. We’ll need your help to end 8 years of GOP rule.
Posted by: dan | March 31, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
When Hillary denies you have good reason to believe what she is denying. (I never said this.)
Posted by: Richard McDonough | March 31, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Vanessa: 20,000 out of a 12,440,621 population in PA; what a joke. My mother lives in PA and PA is definitely a Hillary state.
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | March 31, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Joyce,
You don’t get it. Voter disenfranchisement is not about Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. People throughout history have been willing to give up blood to ensure their votes are counted. Why should this point in history be any different?
===========================
Count all Democratic votes!
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 31, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
@dl:
Investigations of the Clinton’s took four years, forty million, eviscerated the country and forced us to explain oral sex to our kids over dinner. Who made that happen? Republicans. What did they get? Nothing. What did Hillary do? Saved her marriage. What did he do? Balanced the budget.
Who’s the winner? She is. We are.
Now you have a candidate with zero experience and ties to people who use language that is the same as the enemies of the country, has a supporter on trial in Illinois, a wife with a Black Liberation Theology thesis, a pattern of lieing when confronted and somehow you think that this will go unnoticed by the same machine that attacked the Clintons?
Tell ya what: let Reverend Wright AND Michelle Obama go on Sunday morning TV and face a non-denominational panel of theologians. Let them explain their positions. THAT will be great TV.
Dream on. The extremists have hijacked the Democratic Party and will deliver a victory to the Republicans in the one election no one believed the Republicans could win. After failing to deliver on all of their promises, they will blame the FatCats for rigging Congressional legislation. As the economy collapses for a decade, the frustrated unable to accept that they could not get what they wanted because it is unaffordable will begin to take action. We’re already seeing threats on these blogs to burn the cities if he fails to win the nomination.
That IS what you are supporting. You just don’t know it or can’t see through the sports mentality to understand where this is leading.
Lots of luck. I’ll hold my nose and vote for McCain. Better the devil I know.
Posted by: len | March 31, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Damage what democrat party oh come off it!!! If Dean has not damaged that party enough no one else will, take out the Clinton’s from the democrats and what do you have a party that is a total waste with a set of dull unimpressive dead weights all around, that will not beat a Republican candidate in their sleep.
The democrat party is already in shambles with all their nonsense running in this election, Dean and his bright ideas have made a mess of everything, now they are begging Hillary to drop out because of the mess they made.
Posted by: SJ | March 31, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
“Cash-Strapped Clinton Fails To Pay Bills”
Hey Hillary, you owe money!!!! You say you care about the American People, but you haven’t paid many for the work they did for you!!!
Is this to be expected from Hillary Rodham Clinton…all this double talk!
How can anyone trust a wealthy candidate who can’t even pay the bill?
Posted by: JJ | March 31, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Lookup-Actually I’m FOR Hillary. And when she is attacked by your side I return attacks back in like fashion. If you all choose issues I too will discuss issues. If you all want to talk math I can talk math and so on.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 31, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
HILLARY NEEDS TO WALK SLOWLY INTO THE NIGHT.PAY HER BILLS AND THEN GET BEHIND AND SUPPORT OBAMA. SHE NEEDS TO UNITE NOT IMPLODE THE PARTY.
BARACK WILL BE A WONDERFUL PRESIDENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM WITH EDWARDS OR RICHARDSONOR PELOSI
BUT NEVER AND I MEAN NEVER HILLARY.
WELL I HAVE TO SAY SEE YA ALL LATER HAVE A GOOD DAY. AND LIA IF YOUR STILL HERE GOOD LUCK ON GETTING PAID.
JUST DONT EVER VOTE FOR HER AGAIN
Posted by: LAUEPOW | March 31, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Its not a question of staying in or not staying in. Thats not the point. If she were to stay in, but simply limit herself to campaigning on the virtues of her own candidacy then that would be one thing. Of course, then Obama would have to do the same. Instead, the Clintons realize that the only path to the nomination is by convincing the remaining uncommitted superdelegates that Obama is unelectable (she’s not going to win the popular vote or the pledged delegates and her argument that her winning big state primaries makes her more likely to win the big state general elections has been revealed as being false and misleading). Convincing the superdelegates of this is not done by extolling your own virtues, its accomplished instead by attacking the opposing candidate. As such, the race as it stands today is destructive to the democratic party and the chances for a democratic president in 2009.
Again, I’m not saying she should drop out. But if she’s going to use her “kitchen sink” strategy to beat obama over the head in an effort to raise doubts about his abilities as commander in chief, she shouldn’t stay in – not because she doesn’t have the right to, but in the interest of the party she supposedly loves. And most importantly, she certainly shouldn’t blatantly lie and say that it is “good” for the party for her to stay in if her only remaining strategy is to tear down the opponent who will, in all likelihood, be the democratic nominee.
Posted by: Joe | March 31, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
You KNOW Men Against Women is the name of this Presidential Race. BUSH is AFRAID of Hillary. You guys are going to have a hard time abusing and using our young women if Hillary gets elected. I, for one and sick of hearing about women being raped and killed here in the USA. Both within and outside of the Service. USA has let Women be disrespected historically. What you are doing to Hillary is nothing new. Women will stand up for her once they see she will not back down for you nor Obama nor GW Bush either. So, get off her back, she is going to straighten out the bad behavior of a bunch of bad government officials. VOTE 4 HILLARY and save the USA!!!
Posted by: USneedsHillary | March 31, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
How can anyone say Hillary’s campaign is strapped for cash? Her campaign is not strapped for cash, even when she said her campaign is out of money in early February to pay her campaign staff. Here is what I found out from the Federal Election Commission’s web site.
The information shown below is result obtained from a campaign contribution search done at The Federal Election Commission website.
You can get to the above address from Federal Election Commission site.
Covering Period 01/01/2008 Through 01/31/2008
Obama:
Cash on Hand (on 01/01/2008) 18,626,248.13
Total Receipts This Period 36,774,374.00
Total Disbursements This Period 30,460,462.70
Cash on Hand (on 01/31/2008) 24,940,159.43
Covering Period 01/01/2008 Through 01/31/2008
Hillary:
Cash on Hand (on 01/01/2008) 37,947,874.30
Total Receipts This Period 19,747,246.49
Total Disbursements This Period 28,508,779.44
Cash on Hand (on 01/31/2008) 29,186,341.35
Early February Hillary said she loaned her campaign $5 million because her campaign was running out of money, and couldn’t pay her staff.
Why loan her campaign $5 million when they had $29 million cash?
Posted by: Dave | March 31, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Dogsoldier,
Someone else is coming in behind you and posting in your name. This happens to me occasionally as well.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 31, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Dog Soldier-
Speaking of math…maybe you can have that talk with Hillary and tell her she owes a lot of people a lot of money…and the receipts are adding up.
Posted by: maureen | March 31, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
NO! Dan
Read my earlier post re no assosciation with Obama supporters, nor Dean, nor MoveOn, nor the DNC.
When HRC is finished, I am finished. After 46 years as a voting Democrat, through thick and thin, I will become an independent, stay home, and watch it playout without me.
As you can tell, I am bitter! Yet, I feel empowered because of my vote and those I influence.
Posted by: MC | March 31, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
“Cash-Strapped Clinton Fails To Pay Bills”
Hey Hillary, you owe money!!!! You say you care about the American People, but you haven’t paid many for the work they did for you!!!
Is this to be expected from Hillary Rodham Clinton…all this double talk!
How can anyone trust a wealthy candidate who can’t even pay the bill?
Posted by: jj | March 31, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
Vanessa:my husband is from pa and all his family lives in pa! not only is his vote for obama but some of his family too. dont count obama out yet…
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Dan: In connection to your post to MC, unfortunately I (and many more that I know) will not vote for Obama if he is the candidate. I care too much about this country and definitely am not ready to vote for a candidate that I think does not have the minimum qualifications to be President; between McCain and Obama it will be McCain even when it represents having a Republican again for President. Voting for Obama would be as voting for Bush (in terms of qualifications).
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | March 31, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
West coast Messenger,
Apparently you know nothing about the Michigan situation. All voters in Michigan Knew the vote would not count when they showed up to vote (other issues on the ballot). Those who stayed home would be the disenfranchised if now counted. You’re very much like Clinton, keep saying an untruth with the hope that some dummy will believe you. Check the facts!
Posted by: Joyce | March 31, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Greed and Ethics in the home buying market. Let’s point out the fact that Obama preaches to us in his Economics speech last week, but he gets the Million Dollar home he lives in for $300,000.00 less per his slum-lord crooked friend Tony Rezko.
Why is it, Mr. Obama your speeches are starting to sound like Sermons.
Obama don’t talk about Housing Ethics, when your Rev.Wright getsv a $10,000,000.00 dollar line of credit, and his moving into a Million Dollar home in Tinely Park.
Posted by: stella | March 31, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Hillary doesn’t care about the American People! Hillary steps on the American People! She only cares about Michigan and Florida because she didn’t win Iowa! Michigan and Florida, don’t be fooled, this is a game to Hillary and you’re the pawns! She will win at whatever cost, including lying about how much she cares about you!
Posted by: jessica | March 31, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
MC,
It will be your choice to stay home, but I hope you will reconsider.
Joe,
Very good comments. I think you make excellent points. Mike Huckabee stayed in the race a long time without damaging John McCain. Hillary’s campaign could do the same: remain viable, while protecting the Democratic brand for November.
Dave,
The FEC numbers you posted are misleading because a large percentage of the Clinton funds are reserved for the general election only, if she gets that far (if not they must be returned). All contributions are tagged for either the primary or general elections. Right now she is thought to be extremely low in primary cash. But thanks for doing the research!
Posted by: dan | March 31, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Joyce,
I know plenty about the Michigan situation. When it comes to the sacred Democratic right to stand up and be counted, I don’t give a rip what the candidates say, it’s not about them, it’s about us. You can talk about your little rules all day long, but rules in the Democratic party have been a joke far too long, and they get changed every election as the wind blows. So if you don’t think that there are many thousands of like-minded people that will be willing to flood the streets of Denver with a greater show of strenght than Daley faced in Chicago in 1968, be prepared for a taste of living history. That town and the Democratic process will be brought to a crawl if you or Howard Dean tries to disenfranchise the working class voters.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 31, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Hillary’s campaign is not the first one to pay companies that did campaign work. I know one company in Texas that Bush-Cheney campaign did not pay for the work they did. At the end of the campaign, or whenever they feel, they will dismantle the campaign organization. Anyone who didn’t get paid will be left behind holding the bag.
Campaign organizations are separage business organizations. When they cease to exist, you get to pay your creditor out of your own pocket. By the way, don’t forget the Clinton super delegate fellow who managed to rake in almost $2 million for his services so far. In other words, Clinton’s buddies will get paid, others won’t.
Posted by: Dave | March 31, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Stella-
I’m buying a home that’s listed at $925,000. but, there’s a great chance I’m getting it at $750,000. That doesn’t make me a criminal, it makes me a smart investor.
Now weigh that against the poor judgement that Hillary has used in the past…Iraq vote, Nafta lobbyist…that makes her guilty of lives and jobs lost.
That’s what you’re voting for if you continue to vote for Hillary!
Posted by: jj | March 31, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Hillary’s campaign is not the first one to skip paying companies that did campaign work. I know one company in Texas that Bush-Cheney campaign did not pay for the work they did. At the end of the campaign, or whenever they feel, they will dismantle the campaign organization. Anyone who didn’t get paid will be left behind holding the bag.
Campaign organizations are separage business organizations. When they cease to exist, you get to pay your creditor out of your own pocket. By the way, don’t forget the Clinton super delegate fellow who managed to rake in almost $2 million for his services so far. In other words, Clinton’s buddies will get paid, others won’t.
Posted by: Dave | March 31, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
The Dems thrash it out online. Lovely! I wonder what President McCain will feel like. Not the same as Bush – but still bad. But the Dems need to be punished for their folly. The 28% of predicted defectors will grow larger. It’s an unstoppable force – which is why the fat men are yelling for Clinton to get out. Of course ,they then expect her to go around campaigning for Obama. LOL. I would go back to NY and “chill.” The Dems do not want her – they have to take the good with the bad. LOL. Rich stuff.
Posted by: tony | March 31, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
USneedsHillary:
Why should Bush be afraid of Hillary? If you investigate, you’ll find Bush isn’t running.
Unbelievable!
Posted by: Surelock Homes | March 31, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Dan, no offense. I appreciate your trying to “sell” Obama. That is exactly what I thought Obama was doing the first time I saw.
My first impression was of a salesman, a hustler, a con-man, whatever, trying to “sell me”. As in “I make good speeches, I smile alot, so trust me”.
You referred to him in your post as a “potentially transformative President”. I am not interested in some mystical, hypothetically transcendant figure for President.
I simply want a working, fighting, policy making “wonk” like Hillary Clinton. The same as WJC was.
I would return to the nineties in a heartbeat. Good Presidency, last 8 year nightmare would be gone, and if I could do so literally I would have the added bonus of being 8 years younger. Not a bad deal at all.
Posted by: MC | March 31, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
West Coast Messenger,
Again full of baloney!! Projecting the problems in Michigan and Florida as a class war is ridiculous. I grew up in Michigan, have checked the papers there, and there rules are rules. You see they know that Granholm did this originally to give Clinton Michigan. The people in Michigan don’t care about the revote.
Posted by: Joyce | March 31, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Corruption = Obama
Corruption = Axelrod
Corruption = Rezko
etc….
Posted by: terry | March 31, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Stella,
You are spot on. We better not see one more of the Beltway elite stand up and run their mouth, and try to disenfranchise states which they do not represent, the states with the most working class voters, the states that are suffering from the greatest job losses, for which those elite could care less, or there will be a pressure cooker situation in the Democratic party, which will be erupting come August.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 31, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Terry-
You wanna talk corruption? YOU WANNA TALK CORRUPTION? Can’t say you’re doing Hillary any favors bringing up THAT SUBJECT!
Posted by: ddmp | March 31, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
I’ve got a better phrase “The big, huge Whiney, wimpy IDIOTS/JERKS/FREAKS” were trying to push US out. Is that better boys? I’m sure she uses gentlemen when appropriate or fitting.
Posted by: irma | March 31, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
JJ: People just see in others a reflection of what they really are.
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | March 31, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Come on people. Obama partisans want Hillary to drop out. Clinton fans want her to stay in. It’s as simple as that!
Now, on to the issues. Oooppps, I forgot, neither candidate is being specific about issues — they’re flying high above the clouds with raised voices and flailing arms.
Tales told by idiots, signifying nothing and leading nuts who think they can read tea leaves.
Posted by: Surelock Homes | March 31, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
HILLARY IS A ROTTEN CHEAT. SHE SHOULD FIRST PAY HER BILLS TO OHIO FOLKS WHO HELPED HER AND THEN TALK. HOW CAN ANYONE SUPPORT A CHEAT WHO REFUSES TO PAY THE BILLS AS PROMISED? HILLARY HAS NO CHARACTER. CLINTONS HAVE MILLIONS IN THEIR POCKETS AND STILL THEY DECIDE TO CHEAT SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. SHAME, SHAME ON YOU HILLARY!!! AMERICANS CANNOT TRUST YOU!!!
Posted by: hillarysoldier | March 31, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Definitely Common Sense:
Well, based on all your blogs…you must not think too highly of youself then.
Posted by: JJ | March 31, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
West Coast messanger,
Of course Sen. Levin would say that, he was one of the State Democratic leaders and Clinton supporters who set up the January vote in the first place. He disappoints me.
Posted by: Joyce | March 31, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Oh Please! Hillary is going after sympathy votes. Though I know she’s unstable after that lie she told over and over again, I just can’t drum up any sympathy votes for her after the Bosnia lie. It would be different had she “misspoke” once, but she did it way too many times for it to be dismissed as a mistake. Her intentions were to mislead the American voters and I sure hope that the people of Pennsylvania and others are smart enough to see through this. Even the little girl in the video, who’s now 20 years old, said she was “shocked” to hear that Hillary lied about sniper fire and running for cover in Bosnia. Once a liar always a liar.
Posted by: Debmood | March 31, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
The Doom day for our country will be the day Hussein Obama get nominated.
Could any one imagine that extremists are invited to the White House ( Not sure it will then be called The Black House )?
Look at the Obama’s circle of friends REALLY MAKE ME SCARE TO DEATH. They are all extremists promoting Hatred, and ANTI-AMERICAN. Are you AMERICAN? IF YES, THEY ARE AGAIST YOU, YES YOU. I MEANS YOU.
WAKE UP VOTE FOR HILLARY OR JOHN MCCAIN.
Posted by: Microtek | March 31, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Who cares what phrasing she used? It’s the truth and there’s no vulgarity in the statement, so what’s the problem? Obvious bullying is happening and we all know it. I find it incredible that we Americans are treated as if we’re freakin’ retarded or something. Just how dumb are pundits, journalist and people on the Obama campaign to set such low expectations for the public’s ability to use common sense and see what is really going on?
Posted by: irma | March 31, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
So why is everyone upset about Fl and Mi. Of course they will be seated. The dem party can’t afford not to.
Posted by: candy | March 31, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
West Coast Messenger
I do know about the convention rules and organization. If someone is willing to take the results of an fake election where she was the only major candidate on the ballot to the convention, then there will be no question about her character. She said she left her name on the ballot because that election won’t count anyway. Was that a misspeak??
Posted by: Joyce | March 31, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
CNN poll of polls released Monday, which includes the results of several recent major surveys, shows Hillary Clinton with a 14 percent lead in Pennsylvania over Barack Obama.
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | March 31, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
MC,
I remember the 90′s fondly, too, but we can’t go back. 2009 is not 1992, and pretending we can just flip a switch and return to those days is foolish. The next President has to govern in a world very different from the world of 1992. Please don’t fall into the trap of believing that a vote for Hillary will magically bring back the dot-com surpluses and balanced budget and fun times. It won’t.
Posted by: dan | March 31, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Dear Obama Friends,
We know you’ll need our support come November. YOU WON’T GET IT! What part of “we will not vote for Barack Obama” do you not understand?
Your pleas for a unification are becoming tiresome, and frankly, are beginning to border on stalking. Face it, Obama has brought together everybody he’s going to and it isn’t enough to win the general election. Perhaps instead of trying to persuade us to support Obama, you should instead concentrate your efforts on encouraging Obamaites to support Hillary since you said you’d have no problem voting for her in the general.
Sincerely,
Hillary Supporters
Posted by: HoosierSue | March 31, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
No one wants to go back to the great Bill Clinton years, we simply remember the surpluses that Bush deminished. We do however want to go forward with the most qualified, intelligent, knowlegeable person for the job: HILLARY CLINTON. Anyway, we all know now that Obama is a KENNEDY/KERRY PUPPET, they-the “old guard” are the ones Hillary is really running against, meaning it is Hillary who represents “Change”.
Posted by: irma | March 31, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Hoosier Sue; So true, as if making us feel pressure to vote for the party will work. Excuse me, put a party that refuses to listen to it’s own member’s voices, doesn’t deserve our vote. If we are not represented, it is not our party.
Posted by: irma | March 31, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
It’s Hillary or McCain Democrat for me this year! I have no problem voting for him. Especially, if my only other choice is Mr. Obama. I’m glad she’s staying in and dragging this until the convention. I know why they want to force her out! (AND YES IT’S TRUE ABOUT THE WOMAN THING AS THE COMMENTS POINT TO HER HAVING HER PLACE) LOL The reason they want to get her out now is because the Rezko trial could prove to favors for him by Mr. Obama! I mean after all he is on trial for this reason with others in the Illinois political elite. As a major donator for Mr. Obama you cant think that he did just for him out of the goodness of his heart… believe me in my line of business I understand this all too well…
Posted by: ScottVA | March 31, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
irma:
Check your history. It was Newt’s congress that reigned in the budget. Clinton was too busy interviewing interns to take a substantial role in government.
Posted by: Aston | March 31, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Who wants Hillary to drop out? I don’t.
I do want my candidate to win. I listened to their platforms, did my own research and I made up my mind. I worked hard and contributed money to help get my candidate elected.
I really don’t care if the other candidate gets demoralized or trounced by American voters. That is entirely their option.
I want the rules followed by ALL candidates and if the rules get broken, I want there to be consequences.
I do want Democrats to ralley behind ONE candidate in Pennsylvania, North Carolina and all the remaining states. I just don’t believe that Democratic nominee will or should be Hillary.
I do want BILL CLINTON to drop out of this race since he is NOT eligible for a third term. Like I said there are rules that must be followed.
I do want a 28 year old Chelsea Clinton who campaigns for her mother to take questions from the press. Obviously, she chose to become an active political advocate and as such she SHOULD be prepared for the bad along with the good.
My gosh, I think really all I want is for the democratic process to work.
Posted by: A Real Texan | March 31, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
I would never vote for either democratic candidate. That said, I do believe Clinton is the victim of far left politicians — mostly, the elite east coast liberal establishment. There’s no doubt Obama is more to the left and less to the center than Clinton.
Then, there’s the media. It’s well known that they lean far to the left — that, by their own admission. I can’t see how anyone who reads the papers or listens to CNN or NBC could possibly believe Hillary is getting a square deal.
So, Hillary will probably loose. The left is betting her followers will be bound to the party enough that they’ll rally around Obama. I don’t think that will happen. I think there will be ample resentment about how the media and special interest manipulated the coverage and, consequently, the election.
I’m laughing all the way to the polls!
Posted by: Surelock Homes | March 31, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Washington Post caught Obama in a lie about the Kennedy family role.
Politico reports, “During his first run for elected office, Barack Obama played a greater role than he acknowledges in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion– positions that appear at odds with the more moderate image he’s projected during his presidential campaign. The evidence comes from an amended version of an Illinois voter group’s detailed questionnaire, filed under his name during his bid for a state Senate. In response to a Politico story, Obama’s answers he never saw questioaire?
Obama said he goofed on votes angered fellow Democrats in the Senate when he voted to strip millions of dollars from a child welfare office on Chicago’s West Side. But Obama had a ready explanation: He goofed! Also announced he had fumbled an election-reform vote the day before, on a measure that passed 51 to 6. The next day, he acknowledged voting “present” on a key telecommunications vote. He stood on March 11, 1999, to take back his vote against legislation to end good-behavior credits for certain felons in county jails. “I pressed the wrong button on that,” he said. Obama was the lone dissenter on Feb. 24, 2000, against 57 yeas for a ban on human cloning. “I pressed the wrong button by accident,” he said. But two of Obama’s bumbles came on more-sensitive topics, he backed legislation to permit riverboat casinos to operate even when the boats were dockside. The measure, pushed by the gambling industry and fought by church groups whose support Obama was seeking, passed with two “yeas” to spare — including Obama’s. Moments after its passage he rose to say, explaining that he had mistakenly voted for it.
Posted by: mlk | March 31, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
HoosierSue,
I share your frustration with the closeness of the election. Although Barack Obama is extremely likely to come out on top, all signs point to a very close outcome with many millions of supporters on each side, each pointing to reasons why their candidate is the one true choice of the Democratic party.
I have said (and many Obama supporters have said) that they would put party above their own personal preference and vote for Hillary if she were to somehow win. I would hope that you could do the same. The candidates have very, very similar views. They each poll well against John McCain. They each have relatively short careers as public servants (compared to McCain). Neither has military experience. In short, they are very similar.
If you are willing to say up front that you will not vote for Obama if he wins the primary, what you are saying is that you are too bitter or angry to put your party above your personal preference. Hillary herself has said that her supporters should NOT vote for John McCain. Will you ignore this?
I hope you’ll reconsider before November. This election is too important for any of us Democrats to let personal pride get in the way of our vote. Spite is not a good enough reason to NOT cast your ballot for Barack Obama in November.
sincerely,
your Obama friends
Posted by: dan | March 31, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Regardless of what she did or didn’t say (and who would honestly trust any journalist these days given the LIES we have been force-fed in the past 3 months!), it remains TRUE that Hillary Clinton is beeing BULLIED by SEXIST men! And why? Because they fear her.
Heck, it’s a man’s world, where patriarchy has reinged for an eternity. Why would these men want to hand over their power so willingly? They are the corrupt products of a sexist society! I have full confidence in Hillary Clinton’s ability to withdstand and overcome the IGNORANCE and JEALOUSY of those men who seek to shut her down.
We all know why they want her out…it’s so blatantly obvious. It’s because they KNOW she has the grassroots support to WIN this nomination. They want her OUT – by whatever means – so their chosen “candidate” can cheat his way to the nomination. Keep dreaming.
Hillary Clinton has MILLIONS of supporters who have invested emotionally and financially in her campaign. Anyone in their right mind who thinks we are going to SHUT UP and be SILENCED by the INTIMIDATION and LIES of the Media/DNC/Obama coalition, has ZERO idea.
Just wait…Justice will prevail.
Hillary will win. Believe me.
PS – I am MALE.
Posted by: Muzza | March 31, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Irma,
I respect your decision to support Hillary, but you cannot reasonably state that the Democratic party is “not listening” to the voices of its members.
42 separate contests have been held all over the US, and Barack Obama has won more of them, more popular votes and more delegates than Hillary. Yes, there are still more voices to hear, but the vast majority of the country — the vast majority of Democrats — have already done so.
Please don’t fall into the media-driven trap of believing that you, a Hillary supporter, are somehow being “disenfranchised” or that anything is being stolen. Every election has been held according to the rules set up to govern it. Your candidate is simply losing, and will likely lose. It may be hard to swallow, but it does not mean anyone was cheated.
Posted by: dan | March 31, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Muzza, are you kidding me. They don’t fear her, they can’t stand her. They are tired of the Clinton machine and their bully tactics.
Posted by: lulu | March 31, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
A Real Texan,
Thanks for your comments. I agree with your observation about Chelsea — I had forgotten she was 28! It is true, anyone who has taken as large a role as she has in the campaign (and she gets plenty of press for her events) ought to be willing to at least speak with the reporters giving her chosen campaign free publicity. If she were 16 it would be different, but she is a grown woman and should be treated like anyone else. Interesting.
Posted by: dan | March 31, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Muzza,
You are obviously an ardent Hillary supporter, which is great. As an Obama supporter (and volunteer, and donor, etc.) I appreciate the time it takes to get excited about a candidate. You’re obviously excited about Hillary.
I am disappointed that you lump together the Obama campaign with “media” and “DNC” as spreading lies and intimidating Hillary, especially because any are sexist. We as Democrats have to resist the standard, worn out wars of the past that turn every critique of a woman into a sexist remark and every criticism of a black man into a racist remark. They aren’t. Hillary and Barack both have flaws, neither is perfect. There are sexists and racists out there. But it isn’t true that all Barack supporters are sexists any more than it’s true that all Hillary supporters are racists.
America has elected plenty of women to the Senate and House, to governorships, to CEOs and other high profile positions. We are not yet equal, but this country is not the sexist place you describe in your post (in my opinion). A woman will eventually become president; it’s bound to happen, as it has in many other countries all over the world. That woman is unlikely to be Hillary, though, at least in 2008.
I hope that, come this summer and fall, you’ll be able to take a fresh look at the Obama campaign that you now so despise — especially when it is being attacked by the right wing of this country that wants another Bush term in John McCain — and consider working with us to return the White House to the Democrats. Without your help we won’t get there.
thanks
your Obama friends
Posted by: dan | March 31, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Hillary should listen to John Kerry’s calls to drop out of the race.
He knows from experience the uber popular candidate always wins against the hated Republican.
Oh wait…he lost to Bush didn’t he?
He is the LAST PERSON who should say how and how not to win THE PRESIDENCY!
Posted by: John | March 31, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Unfortunately, I am going to have to leave the Democratic party because it is no long a party where voters have the freedom of choice. This has become a cult, and I refuse to drink the Kool-Aid! I will give my local party notice because I have always been very active in volunteering, etc. NO LONGER. If Obama is GIVEN the nomination, thanks to the biased media and the throngs of mindless “fans” who obviously know very little about anything Obama has done or might have a plan to do, and thanks to the Democrats who are jumping on the bandwagon hoping to gain the favor of their new-found savior, and thanks to Pelosi who does not want any woman more powerful than she, and thanks to the “good ol’ boys” in Congress who do not want a female as their leader. I will be voting for John McCain! — or Ralph Nader — or Mickey Mouse if he gets on a ballot somehow! Right now I think the Obamacrats would swoon if Barack just stood behind a microphone and recited the alphabet with a smile on his face. He should be on Broadway — could probably win a Tony Award for his outstanding perfomance impersonating a president!
Posted by: Reality | March 31, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Just met the Prez today in Portland Oregon. His wife will be in town next week-end.
You ROCK Hillary!
Posted by: Nancy | March 31, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Hillary Clinton is in it to WIN it! Hillary Clinton is a fighter who has shown great courage and determination. This is exactly the type of person this country so desperately needs. We want a president who will work hard to get this country back on track.
Hillary Clinton supporters don’t get intimidated easily. We are a tenacious bunch. There are 10 more contests, FL and MI votes need to be counted, and if this must go to the convention, we’re prepared to support her all the way. Go HILLARY! 08!
Posted by: Leigh | March 31, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
I have a message for the Democratic Party, to all those who think the votes of those who’ve had a chance to vote are more important than mine, and to all those that think arbitrary Party rules and punishments are more important than the individual voters of Michigan and Florida:
If you don’t let me vote now, don’t come looking for my vote in November.
If you tell me my opinion and vote don’t matter now, don’t come looking for my vote in November.
If the Party can’t figure out how to run a fair primary, don’t expect my support in November of any other Democratic candidates.
If, as chairman Dean so ineloquently phrased it, he believes supporters of Senator Clinton just need to “shut up” so the Party doesn’t split, don’t be surprised when you find out I’m not willing to vote for Senator Obama if he should be on the ballot in November, I’ve been trying to tell you that for some time.
I’m not being childish, I have grave concerns about Senator Obama’s experience and Chicago ties. As far as I’m concerned, Senator McCain would be a safer alternative. Also, I’m not so sure I even like the Democratic Party anymore, its behavior this season has not impressed me.
Posted by: Sher | March 31, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Here she goes again playing the gender card and then lying about it. . . . It never stops.
Posted by: JW | March 31, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Hillary simply cannot tell the truth. Here’s her scorecard:
Admitted Lies
• Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (She was in bed watching it on TV.)
• Hillary was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. (She admitted she was wrong. He climbed Mt. Everest five years after her birth.)
• She was under sniper fire in Bosnia. (A girl presented her with flowers at the foot of the ramp.)
• She learned in The Wall Street Journal how to make a killing in the futures market. (It didn’t cover the market back then.)
Whoppers She Won’t Confess To
• She didn’t know about the FALN pardons.
• She didn’t know that her brothers were being paid to get pardons that Clinton granted.
• Taking the White House gifts was a clerical error.
• She didn’t know that her staff would fire the travel office staff after she told them to do so.
• She didn’t know that the Peter Paul fundraiser in Hollywood in 2000 cost $700,000 more than she reported it had.
• She opposed NAFTA at the time.
• She was instrumental in the Irish peace process.
• She urged Bill to intervene in Rwanda.
• She played a role in the ’90s economic recovery.
• The billing records showed up on their own.
• She thought Bill was innocent when the Monica scandal broke.
• She was always a Yankees fan.
• She had nothing to do with the New Square Hasidic pardons (after they voted for her 1,400-12 and she attended a meeting at the White House about the pardons).
• She negotiated for the release of refugees in Macedonia (who were released the day before she got there).
With a record like that, is it any wonder that we suspect her of being less than honest and straightforward?
Let’s join together to move this country forward, and not backward into the divisive and hateful politics of the Bush/Clinton past.
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
In March 2007 a Pakistani immigrant named Abdul Rehman Jinnah was indicted by a grand jury for violating federal election laws. The charges stem from $30,000 in illegal contributions to Clinton’s presidential campaign.
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
@ melissa
and those are regurgitated stories…Obama’s are NEW and FRESH…just like the REPUBLICANS enjoy!
Posted by: John | March 31, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
mccain want to be in a war for 100 years that has already done what ever it could, now they need to step up and take over.
he doesnt know about the economy!
‘vote obama…he will get us out of out of this war and help us with the economy!
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Well, truth be told the boys are trying to push her out. Now aren’t they?
Posted by: lois | March 31, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
the “big boys ” havent done anything to her she did it to herself!
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
Really I think Hillary is being swiftboated by her own party. What a wonderful party we are.
Posted by: lois | March 31, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Big Boys have been Hillary’s age old fantasy. Now that’s she worn out they finally pay attention to her. Let her enjoy that brief moment before she goes under.
Posted by: Frank | March 31, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
I’ll say it. She is being BULLIED by the boys in the party. She doesn’t have to say something for it to be true. The truth is the truth, whether it’s in whispers or from the mountain tops.
I have news for you men, women aren’t going to shut up and be bullied out of the process any longer.
Deal with it.
Posted by: Christina | March 31, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
What happened to the good old days when the nominee was chosen AT the convention with ALL the delegates being recognized. Evidently, Howard Dean thinks there is no need to allow this to play out in a democratic way since Howard and his cohorts have decided to disenfranchise not only the voters in Florida and Michigan who already have actually voted, but also all the voters in the other states who have yet to vote. This is democracy??? Ol’ Kennedy, Kerry, Richardson, Dodd, Leahy, et al. — what great bills have they been able to get through Congress? These losers have no right to call for Clinton to stop. THEY are part of the problem for which we need a change. If this is the case, why have a convention, why waste all that money, why bother to tally the votes of any of the delegates — especially since the caucuses were not exactly monitored fairly! There were busloads of students paid for by the Obama campaign driven into Iowa to caucus from another state — I could have gone because at one time I was an Obama supporter before I woke up to the truth about who he really is. Why doesn’t the media investigate the caucus process in each of the caucus states that went to Obama to find out just how they were monitored, what rules were — or were not — followed, what kind of identification did the participants need, etc.? Also, just how many of these states will go to McCain anyway in the general election, so it doesn’t matter which democrat won.
Posted by: Reality | March 31, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
blame game… blame the party that she was willing to trade in when she told people to vote for mccain…but lets poor baby hilary..
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Michigan and Florida voters should be upset with THEIR OWN LEGISLATORS, not Obama or Clinton or the DNC. They were given rules and willfully disregarded them! Both Clinton and Obama signed a waiver and abided by the dnc rules. Clinton is just causing a stink now becuase she’s losing. If our memory serves us correctly, she had no problem with the rules when she signed on the dotted line. So instead of saying i wont vote for Clinton or Obama, try saying i wont vote my state legislators come next election. In truth they are the ones that disenfranchised you!
Posted by: pinky112 | March 31, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
yea but you have to admit its not that far off from, does obama need a pillow! she has been making the “bully” remarks on t.v.
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
For what the Democratic party did to Florida and Michigan and the Obama supporters have done to Hillary in this asking her to bow out crap I’ve decided I am really a Republican at heart. I don’t support any of this kind of stuff.
And for those who say take it out on our locals. When that time comes that will happen too, but right now it was supposed to have been a presidential race…but that was kind of squashed by the supposed Dem bosses. Good luck with that crowning.
Posted by: John | March 31, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Michigan and Florida LEGISLATORS did that not the dems..
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
first of all no one is making her step down! second she did this to herself! for once she should take the blame!
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Barack was afraid of “every” solution that they came up with in both states. He cry babied and said no. I won’t let them vote. No they can’t!!
Posted by: John | March 31, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
lol… yea im sure if that was even a option hilary would have done it first and we wouldnt be talking right now! and lets not even talk about tears, because what kind of prez cries when they get to go first? or makes crazy remarks because of what saturday night live says?
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Hillary never runs from a difficult situation, but I remember Barack doing that in Texas when they asked him too many questions about REZCO. He said 8. That’s enough. It took him about a month to regroup. lol. I laugh everytime I see him hiding behind that curtain.
Posted by: John | March 31, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Well-sourced, you say? The sources in the NYT article are “aides” and “two Democratic allies.” If that’s the standard, here’s my contribution to investigative journalism:
According to sources close to the Obama campaign, Mr. Obama hides under the kitchen sink and “cries his eyes” out every time someone mentions his veneration for the Reagan administration. Party allies also report that the junior Senator “wets his bed” so frequently as to require “rubber sheets” due to “nightmares” about little old ladies getting past his “caucus goons” and participating in the democratic process.
Someone give me a byline.
Posted by: Thekla | March 31, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
hilary doesnt run from anything, she blames others , lies , and makes statements that make her sound like a baby! lol
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Both Bushes cried. Men that are real men aren’t afraid to cry. I see no problem with anyone crying. Someone has some issues if they can’t cry.
Posted by: John | March 31, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Michigan and Florida are two entirely different situations. It was the Florida Republican governor and Republican legislature that voted to hold their primary — for both parties — when they did. Why would they care what the DNC said? However, Michigan democrats did choose to go ahead. It was not Clinton’s fault that Obama decided to remove his name from the ballot. He was probably glad they did this since he was not expected to win Michigan! Also, the votes are counted because OBAMA will not agree to count them. The DNC would count the votes only if BOTH campaigns agreed. So put the blame where is goes — OBAMA is disenfranchising the voters in both Florida and Michigan! And he has campaigned making statements about every vote should count! Yeah, right! Only when he thinks he would be the winner!
Posted by: Reality | March 31, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Obama made up a story for his parents and Selma. :-D
That’s the ticket. He lied about his parents. Now tell me again about Grandmother?
Posted by: John | March 31, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
john your the one who brought it up! lol
“He cry babied !!”
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
where can i read this about obama’s parents? i havent seen it!
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Google Obama Selma hot air
Posted by: John | March 31, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
I wish they’d try to force her out, because that’s when her base loves her the most. She is a fighter, and she should continue fighting. The polls are erratic, and can’t serve to represent an honest opinion of how the general election will play out. Everyday something happens that changes the flow of the election, so that is my reason to continue the voting process, so we have a buffer incase damning evidence comes out about Obama – in which case the super delegates can rightfully give Hillary the nominee.
Posted by: Zee | March 31, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
okay i did and i dont see the big deal! thats something that he could have been told or just got the dates wrong! thats not like gun fire!!! who the hell cares?
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
no one is forcing her out and she only fights when she is winning! ask her a hard question and she hides behind obama, sucks her finger and asks why she has to be first!!
Posted by: melissa | March 31, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
Obama has zero experience, he divides “whites” and “blacks”, he, his wife and spiritual leader are anti-american. How has this arrogant racist gotten this far. This is scary for the Democratic party!
Posted by: john | March 31, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Some of the comments here shows the sorry state America is in and will always be in when people can’t look beyond a person’s color when they make their decision on who to vote for. And stop blaming Obama for Fl and MI woes. The way I read it (you should try it) is Hillary was supposed to take her name off the ballot too, but she “didn’t meet the dealine in time”. Smells like some of the same crap we got when Bush won Florida some years back. Not only was that disenfranchisement – they told the voters outright, in your face “go to hell – we’re gonna win this no matter what the rules are!!!”
Posted by: caddycts | March 31, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
i can not believe you people that will still vote for obama .rev wright said god damn america and the libelal media said obama made a great speech. throwing grandma under the bus but the media said that alright shes white
Posted by: mik | March 31, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Sure, she has a right to campaign as long as she wants. However, if the situation were reversed, the entire weight of the senate floor – would literally be brought down on Obama to get out of the race. Her supporters, surrogates, media, etc. would ALL be telling him to get out of the contest. Some of his own supporters would be encouraging him to get out. I imagine he, himself, would end his campaign if he examined all the evidence.
However, some how Hillary wants to keep going. She and her side feels and believes, she can somehow whether the storm and stage some COMEBACK NEVER before seen in American politics. If anyone suggest she gets out, they are branded as wanting to silence the voters, hey are branded as sexist, etc.
I, too, at first thought she should continue. But, given the circumstances, the implications, examining the evidence, etc. I now think she should get out. Simply stated, this is bull. She needs to get out. Period. She knows and her SUPPORTERS know it. If the situation were reversed, he’d be out, why in the hell can’t she get out? She’s not special and if she is not careful, she won’t have a senate seat or a CAREER to return too!
Posted by: Maranda | March 31, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
This “story” was clearly planted by the Clinton campaign to rile up women to vote for Huckab…I mean Clinton.
If Obama and Clinton switched positions, Clinton and her supporters would be calling for Obama’s head — there’s NO WAY he would still be in the race.
I’m sick of everyone trying to make this a gender issue — it’s not. It’s about doing what’s best for the Democratic party and the American people. Obama has a 95% chance of winning the nomination and Clinton has a 95% chance of making the Democrats lose the general election if she continues her negative campaign. Simple math tells me that it’s unreasonable for ANY Democrat to want to accept this risk.
Posted by: Jane | April 1, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am
Anyone saying to vote McCain is an idiot. Who wants 8 more years of Bush policies? Are you joking? Has the DNC become so divided and so stupidly blind and cultish that if our first choice isn’t nominated that we would vote for McCain: Bush’s newest lapdog?
Honestly, that rationale shows why our country is so messed up. We live in a nation where the people are prejudiced idiots that can’t see the bigger picture because they’re too busy trying to push their own agenda at the cost of better policies and a better economy.
The single greatest threat in this country is a lack of healthcare and jobs that provide a means for the American way of life. A vote for McCain is a vote for more money and jobs going overseas and not to healthcare and our own economy. Maybe when you job gets outsourced you’ll wish you voted for Obama or Clinton or even Nader if he could win.
People are stupid and should be ashamed of themselves. You obviously have enough free time to type responses here but won’t take the time to look at the real issues. I was certain that the one thing that the American people, both republicans and democrats could agree upon was that we wanted no more parts of Bush!!!!
Even republicans have heavily criticized Bush over the last few years. So what the hell is this “if so and so doesn’t win I will jump wagon and vote for more Bush” crap about?
You need to grow up. People who would do that would be the loudest among the cry babies once their son or daughter gets killed in the pseudo-war. Or you are going to want to picket once your job has been outsourced to someone in Asia even though you voted for that kind of leadership.
Don’t let the media Jedi-mind trick you into voting against your own interests otherwise you really are sheep being led to the slaughter.
Posted by: J Smith | April 1, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am
Clinton has zero experience, she divides “whites” and “blacks”, she, and her husband, are strictly pro-Clintons, not pro-America. How has this arrogant, megalomaniac Marxist gotten this far? This is scary for the Democrat party!
Posted by: Let's Be Real | April 1, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
Another lie by Hillary… She gets no benefit of the doubt with me after all those lies she’s been telling are starting to come to the forefront. D.
Posted by: David G. | April 1, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
They said that she said, but she said this is really what she said according to what he is saying. Blah, blah, blah. It gets awfully empty in ABC cyberspace.
Posted by: katrina | April 1, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Why doesn’t the media let people know about Michelle Robinson Obama’s undergraduate thesis. It reads pretty much like the Reverend Wright’s words. Must be because this was her family’s church, and when Obama met her, he started going there. This is when, as he has referred to in speeches, he found religion 20 years ago! He has been an active participant in this church and listened to hundreds of sermons by Rev. Wright. This church is all connected to Michelle Obama. She is as angry toward white people as Rev. Wright. You Obama supporters should be more concerned about what this church has been teaching black people about white people than whether or not he ever went to a Muslim school as a kid. Michelle Obama, and now their children, had a different take on white people since she went to this church — and she obviously converted Barack since he turned on his white Grandmother who raised him after his Mother died. I don’t think anyone knows for sure what he really thinks or believes because he can come up with whatever words he needs to depending on who he is with. Anyway, what Michelle Obama wrote, and is teaching their children, and what the entire family has been listening to in this church is quite disturbing. This might explain her comment about never being proud of her country until now — now that her husband is running for president. Why wasn’t she proud when he ran for office in the state of Illinois twice?
Posted by: Reality | April 1, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
I believe nothing, absolutely nothing the Clinton’s say, and it’s unfortunate that Chelsea is being used by them to give them an appearance of decency, and legitimacy. If she continues to go along with her parent’s lies….then she too will lose any future credibility.
Posted by: MyAudacity | April 1, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
the clintons are decent people-none are perfect. but hillary will make a better
president that mccain or obama
she is smarter than obama on the issues and mccain-scares me-with his talk of continued war.
none of the three are perfect. and neither are we.
good night.
Posted by: jgaw | April 2, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am