I Guess That’s Why They Call It The Blues
The Washington Times this morning asked if Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and Elton John, who is set to perform at an April 9 fundraiser for her at Radio City Music Hall in New York, would be breaking any laws since John, a British foreign national, is in a way raising hundreds of thousands of dollars for her campaign.
The Federal Election Campaign Act "prohibits any foreign national from contributing, donating or spending funds in connection with any federal, state, or local election in the United States, either directly or indirectly. It is also unlawful to help foreign nationals violate that ban or to solicit, receive or accept contributions or donations from them. Persons who knowingly and willfully engage in these activities may be subject to fines and/or imprisonment."
The questions: was John contributing "indirectly" to Clinton’s campaign? Was Clinton soliciting contributions or donations from John?
The answers, apparently: No and no.
On its website the Clinton campaign says that since 1987, the Federal Elections Commission "has consistently held that foreign nationals may volunteer their time for campaigns on an uncompensated basis. Elton John is simply volunteering his uncompensated time to appear at the concert. This appearance is consistent with past FEC rulings."
The campaign also quotes FEC spokesman Bob Biersack saying, "I did not intend to convey in my conversation with the Washington Times reporter that there is anything unlawful about Elton John performing in a concert to raise money for a U.S. presidential candidate. The Advisory Opinion 2004-26 is clear in the circumstances of the request that foreign nationals may volunteer and may even solicit contributions from non-foreign nationals, provided they are not soliciting other foreign nationals."
Can you feel the love tonight?
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I’m sure Hillary will do this in such a manner as to not break any laws. She is a crafty lawyer after all.
Posted by: antenian | March 27, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
In a January speech at the University of South Carolina, Michelle Obama made remarks that are just now getting attention across the internet. Talking about her experience at Princeton where she hung with a largely African-American crowd, she said, “We don’t like being pushed outside of our comfort zones… because sometimes it’s easier to hold on to your own stereotypes and misconceptions. It makes you feel justified in your own ignorance. That’s America. So the challenge for us is are we ready for change?” Those comments are coming under fire for implying that feeling justified in one’s own ignorance in somehow quintessentially American. The Obama campaign says that’s a misinterpretation of her comments.
Are we ignorant? Do you understand Michelle Obama’s point and do you agree with it? Is she being misinterpreted? And if so, how many times can the voters misinterpret someone associated with Barack Obama’s campaign? Does this generate important discussion on race? Or is it needlessly provocative?
Posted by: Jason | March 27, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
“Can you feel the love tonight?”
Well, I hope you will feel the love of John.
Posted by: Ken | March 27, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Enjoy your two more months of wishful thinking Hillary supporters. I hope the show (unlike her campaign) is good.
Posted by: billy smith | March 27, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
A great performer is helping a friend. Get over it and focus on the issues. the reason the law prohibits fundraising or donations from a foriegnnational is to make sure that there is no undue influence by that foriegner ifthe person gets into office. This is clearly not what is happening, Elton is not seeking quid pro quo, he is volunteering. This is just anothe rattempt from the Obama campaign to take the focus off his failings!
Posted by: Chipo | March 27, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Clinton is soooo 90s. Designing Women is no longer on the air, Elton John is a has been. Her campaign seems so stale. Next thing you know, we’ll see Bill playing sax.
Posted by: DJShay | March 27, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Yea Jason, it’s the elephant in the room. Many politician know its there and use it to capitalize on it.
Maybe it would be nice if a politician points out the elephant in the room and helps us remove it.
But in doing so, Obama may be making the same mistake that Kerry made in 2004 where Kerry assumed that the voting populous were mature adults. It would be a shame if another politician fails for the same reason.
Posted by: Roy | March 27, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Joris – wake up. These things would, given the chance, will come back to haunt BHO in the GE. HE IS UNELECTABLE. He has lost any state that would vote “patriotic” which leaves him with the North East, California and Illinois, he has now lost every other state. Teh primaries have been childs play and we all can see the Barrack doesnt play well with others..
Posted by: Chipo | March 27, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
White America seems to have many variations of what a Christian is. Most times, it applies only to them almost akin to them thinking they own the name. Which version of Chrisian are you today?
Right Winger?
“Evangelist”?
Jerry Fallwell type?
Oral Roberts type?
Hagee type?
Say it, you don’t really know what a Christian is, huh?
Posted by: Joris | March 27, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
To my views this is not volunteering. Elton John makes his money by playing music. What he gets in return is money.
In other words he will be contributing to Hillary indirectly.
Posted by: Peace | March 27, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Hillary has an uncanny way of finding exceptions to rules that help her personally. I trust that the Clinton campaign is not paying any airfare or the cost of moving equipment or the cost of Union Stagehands needed to set up and break down Elton John’s stage. I am sure that Hillary is not paying for the salaries of Elton John’s personal assistants, security guards, or gophers. I am sure that the costumes, and flowers, parking, lodging will all be borne by Elton John, right? I can safely assume that all of this expense and effort is being paid for by Elton John himself. I COULD assume this except that Hillary will make an A$$-out-of-U-and-ME if I do. Hillary takes everything just a little too far. This too will come back to haunt her.
Posted by: Sean O'Brien | March 27, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
chris – Surely Obama has at least a 1% chance. I would argue after seeing how mobilized dems have been in the primaries vs. the republicans, that Obama would stand a very good chance against McCain. Let’s not forget that Obama can use the war issue to his advantage. 100 years of war and all the costs associated with such an undertaking will be front and center during the general election. You dems shouldn’t sweat it so much.
Posted by: antenian | March 27, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
BTW, Jake mentioned in this blog that an anonymous DNC official had remarked HRC is using “Tonya Harding” tactics to win. It turns out (via ABC) that it is Mr “no more politics as usual” Obama himself who said this. Ouch.
Posted by: macondo | March 27, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
I can’t stand Clinton.
But this is a non-story. The rules/regulations are crystal clear. It’s not something that really deserves any time/attention at all.
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But why do so many people throw in Obama on this? He’s got nothing to do with it. Neither does McCain, nor does Christianity.
The hate thrown out (either from partisanship or racism) is rather pathetic.
Posted by: Jim | March 27, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
The FEC individual gave his ok. So what’s really the big deal? I guess the Bosnia thing has been exhausted.
Posted by: katrina | March 27, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
If Obama through contributions to his church can pay for the Rev Wright and Farrahkan to go to Lybia and meet with Moammar Kadafi, then whats the deal with Elton John having a concert for Hillary?
Posted by: russell | March 27, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Elton John is mixing up our American politics. Do we need a foreigner to get into our election system sabotage our natinal intergrity. Elton, stay out of it, to say it politely.
Posted by: Al Lieu | March 27, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Enjoy the Obama kool-aid and reefer while it lasts man….. its over for him by June. Obama-Drama is gonna lose the next 10 primaries and then you’ll see how stale Hillary is. !!
Posted by: JIMBO | March 27, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
A more appropriate title would be “I’M Still Standing” and so is Hillary.
Posted by: geevill | March 27, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Djshay: Ya your wright the bring out the hip and happen Rev. Wright? This guy is up and coming he’s fresh and his latest the Best Of Rev Wright just made number one on Political Top 100! Keep those hits coming!
Posted by: russell | March 27, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Sean O’Brien-Hillary has an uncanny way of finding exceptions to rules? Have you thought (a stretch I know) it may well be you who does not know the rules? Or is that to big of a leap?
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 27, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Next week she will be telling the press she had to run into the concert, because the sniper in the hill from the event were firing down on her and Bill. They did not have time to stand on the Red Carpet and take pictures because of all the danger they were in. And when CBS, CNN, ABC, show her the pictures of her smiling and waving to the the crowd…she will just lie and say she misspoke! LOL
Posted by: Kisia | March 27, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
I just want to add to see that a gay performer is helping Hillary out. I heard from so many Obamer’s supporters negative comments like “A queen helping a queen”. I am disgusted by their remark, it’s not OK to be a RACIST but the same should apply to a person’s sexual orientation. Lots of Obama’s supporters just don’t get it.
Posted by: ken | March 27, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
What do you want to say eirk? I hope that was a positive statement.
Posted by: ken | March 27, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
I love Elton John. It will be great to see him.
Posted by: John | March 27, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Ken, chill. I’m gay and have observed this effect amongst my own friends for months. The more effeminate guys tend to support Hillary, while the more masculine guys back Obama. There’s nothing wrong with that. It’s just a statement of fact.
Posted by: Erik | March 27, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Would Donald Young support Obama if he were stll alive?
Posted by: chasseur | March 27, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
GO HILLARY AND ELTON JOHN. THIS IS THE HOTTEST CONCERT THIS MONTH.
Posted by: chris | March 27, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Don’t forget that the Clintons sold the Lincoln bedroom to Chinese Communists in the 90s. Do we really want Chinese Communists to be funding a Clinton Administration?
Posted by: Doug | March 27, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Sorry Erik, I am just tired of all the comments I read from his supporters. I thought we want to be inclusive. BTW, I am a little older and remember how our eonomy was in the 90′s. I know that the Clintons have lots of baggage. But lot of it, I don’t care about. Look, Patterson admit of having affairs, I don’t care either.
Posted by: ken | March 27, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
I wonder if Elton John knows that the Clintons threw gay people under the bus with the Defense of Marriage Act and the stupid Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy. Why would any gay person support the Clintons?
Posted by: Doug | March 27, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
You know, it should be Goodbye Yellow Brick Road for this article and its inference of wrongdoing on the part of Clinton. There’s a lot more to rock about with Obama.
Posted by: katrina | March 27, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
I will throw a good deal for Obama if he ever wants to be a president.
1. Hillary/Obama 08, Obama/XXXX 12 & 16
But first he needs to denouce his pastor completely.
Posted by: GS | March 27, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
To Doug: Clinton “sold” nothing, Dude!
Guests in the Lincoln bedroom, other than personal friends of the Clintons, were DNC donors, WJC did not need donors. He was already President!
The donors benefitted the DNC alone. The same DNC that backs your idol Obama!
Posted by: MC | March 27, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Looks like Hillary is trying to buy the San Francisco vote now. Let’s look at her record in regard to that.
Posted by: Patriot 2008 | March 27, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
The Clintons raised money illegally from Chinese Communists. That’s a fact.
I know Hillary doesn’t like facts. Just look at her lie about Bosnia.
Posted by: Doug | March 27, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Doug get informed! George Soros is a naturalized American. He holds dual nationality…..that qualifies him to raise funds for whoever he deems fit.
The problem here is that most Americans don’t even know anything outside their everyday lives, that is why they continue to vote for liars like Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Magicman | March 27, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Hillary doesn’t have a shot at the nomination. Barack has to win three contests out of the next ten. Pelosi has already explained to all the “Hillary” supporters “indirectly” that the SD will support the one with the most pledged delegates. How do you like them apples?
Posted by: Kenny | March 27, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Post your fact , Doug!
Do not just throw out inaccurate diatribe!
Posted by: MC | March 27, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
I don’t know about the rest of the country but gays in California went for Hillary in a big way. They love her. They like her toughness and she’s been very active in the gay community, human rights campaign events, etc. The fact that Elton John jumps in, well, that’s not a surprise. He loves the limelight.
Posted by: Charles | March 27, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
The FEC has ruled that’s not illegal, now whay is that nobody is reporting that Senator Obama was campaining at his church, been this illegal, since churches are a non-profit, non-partisan and supposely non-bias as some media stations.
FISHY UH !!!
Posted by: Miguel | March 27, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Can anyone explain why Obama himself in 2004 said he would not be qualified to run for national office in 2008 and yet he is doing it now?
Posted by: Chase | March 27, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Ken, what makes the Clinton situation different from Gov. Patterson’s is that Clinton gave false testimony about his affair in connection with a sexual harassment lawsuit. When you go before a court of law and swear to tell the truth, there is no exception for embarrassing information. Perjury is a crime, period. President Clinton’s problem wasn’t that he had an affair, it’s that he lied to federal prosecutors. He should have been removed from office.
Posted by: Erik | March 27, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Why would any gay person support the clintons? That’s like saying why would any non-black person support Obama because of him going to that church for 20 years.
Posted by: ken | March 27, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Kenny: I like those apples just fine! Now lets count every vote and let those old superdelegates do what they were hired to do. If they vote for Obama thats fine, but I want them on the record, so when McCain wins in November we can all say was’nt it you job to pick a winner. Then we can scrap this stupid system for one which allows for a nominee to have winner take all just like in the real world. Rember it was like that until Jesse Jackson cried that it was unfair!
Posted by: russell | March 27, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
If it is not illegal, it is not illegal! Period. All the fulminating by Obama supporters is getting tiresome. It is divisive, unattractive, and unpleasant to read these vitriolic posts which are obviously motivated by partisan jealousy.
Posted by: Two-cats | March 27, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Committing criminal perjury comes very easily to the Clintons. It’s in their nature.
Posted by: Doug | March 27, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
I see your point why does Obama think he is qualified now to be the President of this great nation? Maybe so he can continue to divide white people and black people.
Posted by: Jay | March 27, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
I see your point why does Obama think he is qualified now to be the President of this great nation? Maybe so he can continue to divide white people and black people.
Posted by: Jay | March 27, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Doug: Chelsea admires her mother because she has spent a lifetime in the pursuit of human and civil rights. Besides she is the only Democrat left in this race who has shown that they love their country. Thats why she and we are proud of her!
Posted by: russell | March 27, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
The FEC has ruled that’s not illegal, now whay is that nobody is reporting that Senator Obama was campaining at his church, been this illegal, since churches are a non-profit, non-partisan and supposely non-bias as some media stations.
FISHY UH !!!
Posted by: Miguel | March 27, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Obama is a slime ball. What kind of man throws his own grandmother under the bus. I guess one who hates white people. No wonder he went to that racist church for 20 years.
Posted by: Josie | March 27, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Waaaaaaaaaaaa! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Snf! Snf! Save the crocodile tears for Clinton’s formal announcement of her dropping from the Democratic race.
I predict this will occur just after landslide blowouts in NC and Indiana.
Hillary wins one. Barack wins two. Hillary wins one. Barack wins two.
No! Hillary’s ahead! She’s taken the lead! She’s winning! She’s going to be the Democratic nominee!
SIKE! Just fantasizing
Posted by: Joris | March 27, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Doug: Apparently Obama is paying you by the post and not the word.
Posted by: russell | March 27, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
I’ve always liked Elton John, and now I like him even more. Hillary Clinton is America’s last chance for a SENSIBLE transition away from the Bush years (and Bush’s War). Hillary Clinton can lead us in the right (actually left) direction without turning America into a Socialist country. As former Obama supporters, my wife and I REALLY want to see Hillary stay in the fight! Otherwise, we will be forced to vote for Old Man McCain.
Posted by: Rhys | March 27, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Here we go again two sets of rules ,now cry Hilly baby so you can get your way.No foreign monies what in hell don’t you understand about the words????
Posted by: h | March 27, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Obama – Protect me from your followers…
Posted by: WILYPAGAN | March 27, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
For the first time in my adult life I am scared of one of the candidates. If Obama wins the nomination this country will be divided more than ever. That will tell black people and white people that it is OK to say racist things because Obama says so.
Posted by: Jeff | March 27, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
You know what is really funny about these blogs? Everyone is blaming all the news releases and bad press for Hillary on Obama. Did anyone every consider that the Republicans are behind it? The longer the Dems fight the more votes they accumilate. WAKE UP!
Posted by: cindy | March 27, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Because they are beholden to Chinese Communist funding, the Clintons are throwing the people of Tibet under the bus.
Free Tibet!
Posted by: Doug | March 27, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
What’s the matter no Americans entertainers good enough or left to support her? But then, he is a Knight of the British Empire and royalty does tend to stick together.
Posted by: ida | March 27, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Maybe we should free Iraq first?
Posted by: ken | March 27, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Actually I did not know that people were so racist until all of this Rev. Wright/Obama blacks vs whites speech. I have never felt that the country has been as divided as it is now. Obama has made the world a scary racist place. He will never become our leader, never!
Posted by: Josie | March 27, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Nancy Pelosi supports Tibet, but the Clintons do not. It’s because of all those illegal foreign campaign contributions.
Posted by: Doug | March 27, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Barack Obama’s lies and deceptions cut deeper than any misstatement Hillary may have made. When one associates oneself with an raving, anti white, anti jew, anti Italian, anti America, pro terrorist (HAMAS) organizations LUNATIC – there is something seriously and fundamentally wrong about oneself!
My own person take on why his followers refuse to see, or deal with this unfortunate truth is that deception and disbelief are hard to overcome and deal with. Deep down I’m sure a lot of his white, jewish and Italian supporters are questioning Obama’s credibility and sincerity and wondering If they made a mistake when they voted for this racist radical!
Posted by: VoiceOfReason | March 27, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
I don’t trust Hillary in the least. I am sorry to hear that Elton John would support such a deceitful, dishonest, and disingeuous candidate…
What is world coming to?
Posted by: Mrs. Tiggywinkle | March 27, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
I don’t like McCain at all but I will never vote for Obama. I will protest against Obama if he is the nominee. He will make this country and this world just like the church he has attended for the past 20 years –hate filled. I know a lot of you Obama supporters would like that.
Posted by: sean | March 27, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
We should have revotes in MI and FL
Posted by: ken | March 27, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
The bluesiest part of all this back and forth bickering is that the true purpose of what is going on here is that we’re trying to pick the best candidate to wint this presidential election for the democrats.I thind we should start looking for the clearest high notes of the candidates. All that I see and read sounds like a lot of selfcentered and selfserving hypocracy. We must have a lot more perfect people in this country than I ever imagined. I am in the frying pan but I think we should all try to rise above our selfish motives and look for our best candidate. Then we wouldn’t have to sing the blues
Posted by: smitty | March 27, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Why is Hillary still in the race? Because it is HER race! The media has helped Obama steal it from her by creating the Obamania. If you want to know what the USA would be like under president Obama, take a look at Tibet! Obama and the Dalai Lama have a lot in common: spiritual leader, star power and no accountability.
Posted by: Ernest | March 27, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
alfonso, If you don’t think Bill Clnton’s perjury is relevant, then I encourage you to lie through your teeth the next time you have to testify in court. I guarantee, if your caught, you won’t be as lucky as Mr. Clinton. You’ll go to prison.
Posted by: Erik | March 27, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Why are Clinton thugs trying to shakedown Nancy Pelosi? She is a fellow woman. Oh that’s right, Hillary doesn’t care about other women. Just her own quest for power.
Posted by: Doug | March 27, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
I heard Chelsea wrote a thesis on the Northern Ireland peace process. Where is this thesis? Any mention of Hillary playing an important role? I doubt it. Yet another lie by Hillary.
Posted by: Doug | March 27, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Bill Clinton repealed Glass-Steagall, deregulating the banking industry. That’s why we have an economic crisis today.
Posted by: Doug | March 27, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Hey Doug,
Michelle doesn’t wonder about Barack. She already knows about Larry. Now she loves America.
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Obama doesn’t care about Michigan and Florida!
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 27, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
If Elton is a US permanent resident (green card holder) with a foreign passport, then it is totally legal for him to raise money for Hillary, Obama, or McCain. The only difference between a US citizen and a permanent resident is that the latter does not have the right to vote, although he has to pay all taxes.
Posted by: Juan | March 27, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
The constant micro-analysis of every word of Hillary or Bill for negativity has convinced me that the media will never treat Clinton fairly, that Obama is a hypocrite, and that McCain will get my vote if Obama is the nominee. If McCain turns out to be another hypocrite, I won’t vote.
Posted by: HERE_IN_PA | March 27, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Why didn’t Hillary read the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq before voting for Bush’s War? Was she too sleepy at 3am?
Posted by: Doug | March 27, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
After reading all the blogs, I’m embarrassed for so many ignorant and mean American citizens. Do you all have to be so mean? For those of you that are for Hillary, you would really vote for McCain? (more war, more tax cuts for the rich, conservative supreme court justice) You’ve got to be kidding me. You people are so dumb! Any the person who thought Barrack was dissing his grandmother, maybe you should watch the whole speech. You missed the whole point, you dummy. He can bring everyone together more than anyone than has every run for president (although maybe not you ignorant people). As a middle aged white woman, I agree with most of Reverend Wright’s comments. They weren’t racist at all. When you’ve been giving sermons for over 20 years, you’re bound to say something controversial. How about the ministers who are backing McCain that think 911 happened because there are homosexuals in the world. Why aren’t people outraged about that? I think you all have too much free time on your hands. Why don’t you go out and volunteer or do something worthwhile.
Posted by: Julie Bailey | March 27, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Poll: Obama leads Clinton nationally By The Associated Press
27 minutes ago
THE RACE: The presidential race for Democrats nationally
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THE NUMBERS
Barack Obama, 49 percent
Hillary Rodham Clinton, 39 percent
Posted by: Justinteim | March 27, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Hillary wants Greenspan to help with the economy. What an idiot. Greenspan was part of the problem with his right wing deregulation philosophy.
Posted by: Doug | March 27, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
westcoastmessanger…she only cared when she was behind…a few months ago she said it Michigana and Florida didn’t matter…again she uses the situation to benefit herself, not the people..
Posted by: cindy | March 27, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Hey Doug,
You sound like a two-time Bush voter, always pointing the finger somewhere else. No accountability. Republican party is the party destruction and waste. Why should we listen to you wingnuts anymore? Do us a favor and sit out this election.
Clinton = balanced budget
Bush = $10 trillion deficit
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Bush = on the job training
Obama = on the job training risk
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 27, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Cindy,
You don’t get it. I don’t care if Hillary or Barack cares. Guess what, I’m an American and I care. People throughout history have been willing to give their own blood to ensure the right to vote. You think this is about pedantic rules and Machiavellian positioning. It’s not. It’s about the right to f—ing VOTE and have it COUNT!
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Obama Zombies do not care about Democracy!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 27, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
One point missing is the effect this has had on supporters of Obama and Clinton. Each side’s supporters are becoming entrenched vowing not to vote for the other if they become the nominee. As a Clinton supporter what has bothered me is Obama positioning himself as a different type of politician yet practicing what he accuses Clinton of doing. I see it as duplicity. This is one thing that makes me not trust Obama. I have no problem with two politicians going at it and do believe it will make a better president. Obama doesn’t have political experience running against an opponent. He was unopposed in his Illinois State Senate election and his opponents for the U.S. Senate self destructed on their own. It should be obvious to everyone how Obama has improved over the course of this campaign due to Clinton’s challenge. Imagine if Obama won New Hampshire and the nomination early on. It would have been a disaster for Obama in the general election. If Obama wins the nomination he should thank Clinton for toughening him up. Alas, for me the damage has been done and I will not vote for Obama if he wins the nomination.
Posted by: mind made up | March 27, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
The Clinton Experience: Survive scandal after scandal after scandal. Now that’s experience we can believe in.
Posted by: Doug | March 27, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Obama is manipulative and calculating. He and his supporters have used under- handed tactics to grab votes from Hillary. They injected race into Hillary’s comment on LBJ and Bill’s “fairtale” comments but blamed that on the Clintons. The Wright incident is another example that he would say anything to win. The media just ignores any flaws that Obama has but nit-picking on Hillary.
Posted by: obama is a racist | March 27, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Honest (is that a joke name?)
I have my stories straight. Howard Dean has conspired with Barack Obama to make sure that there is absolutely no possibility that the voters of Michigan and Florida will have a fair say in the nominating process. This is called disenfranchisement. In my book it’s called b.s.
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Obama is un-American when it comes to Democracy
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 27, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
ewstcoastmessanber…..I GET YOUR POINT, YOU DON’T NEED TO YELL. my point is, if you are saying that Hillary cares ,in the least bit ,about Fl or Mich you’re wrong. She wouldn’t even care about the right to have those votes count, if she thought they were going to Obama.
Posted by: cindy | March 27, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
I am astonished by the harshness of the supporters of Sen. Obama, which includes the media, towards Sen. Clinton. Do these supporters really think Sen. Obama will win the general election? I believe that those “red” states he won the primaries in will vote Republican in the Fall. The big picture is the win in November. I truly believe that the Republicans have successfully muddied the waters during the primary by encouraging the ” party switch” during the caucuses. Why hasn’t Sen. Obama won the big states? Also, that Kennedy Camelot myth is just too much to take, especially for some of us who were around during that era. The young Obama advisors and supporters would benefit from a history lesson. And while they are at it, perhaps they should also check out Chicago politics under the Daley regime, which continues to this day.(How did JFK win?) Sen.
Obama has benefited mightly from his connections to Tony Rezko and Mayor Daley and, of course, his New Hyde Park “weathermen” friends. As a Hillary Clinto supporter I will not vote for Sen. Obama should he gain the nomination. The continued “trash” talk by the Obama campaign turns my stomach. Sen. Clinton is resilient and has withstood vicious attacks from the media and Obama supporters.
Does anyone think if Sen. Clinton uttered those words attributed to Michelle Obama about being only proud to be an American now, she would have gotten a pass as Mrs. Obama has? What if her pastor uttered hateful words? Would the Clintons get a pass? Save us from rich liberals who need to assuage their consciences and save us from bitter, jealous women who will always manage to shoot themselves in the foot sooner or later. Maureen Dowd, anyone? As a proud woman of a certain age, I am thankful for all those women who came before me and fought for the rights we now have. Too bad, we don’t know how to stick together. I am a proud Hillary supporter.
Posted by: u lied to me | March 27, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Bill Clinton was a fan of the Soviet Union. He even traveled there to show his hate for America. At the time, many young men of his age were dying in Vietnam.
Posted by: Doug | March 27, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Bill Clinton dodged the draft. He definitely hates America.
Posted by: Doug | March 27, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
westcoastmessanger…NO NO…Fl and Mich decided themselves to do what they did, and their OWN legislatures AGAIN decided not to have a re-vote…They have only to blame themselves for voting in IDIOTS to represent them.
Posted by: cindy | March 27, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Yeah Elton! Rake in the dough!!! Go Hillary!!!!
Posted by: Priscilla | March 27, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Cindy,
You still don’t seem to get it. Hillary is indeed standing up for Florida and Michigan. Her motives are simple. She wants to win. I don’t really care her reasons, she’s a stand up politician just be doing so. Obama is sitting on his hands, the sign of a weak, undemocratic leader. His actions are not patriotic whatsoever. Why does he refuse to do so. Because he wants to win, at the expense of Democracy. That’s the sign of a coward.
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Obama is not a patriot when it comes to Democracy!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 27, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
I don’t know which team of geniuses is more incompetent in their public relations tactics: The Chinese in their handling of the Tibetan crisis or the Clinton campaign and their acts of desperation as the last days of their failed campaign come to pass.
Posted by: kene | March 27, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
I don’t know which team of geniuses is more incompetent in their public relations tactics: The Chinese in their handling of the Tibetan crisis or the Clinton campaign and their acts of desperation as the last days of their failed campaign come to pass.
Posted by: kene | March 27, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Hillary once referred to Bill as an “evil man.” One of the few times she was actually telling the truth.
Posted by: Doug | March 27, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
whitehousewatcher….THANK YOU….we all needed to hear that and bring her down off the pedestal. She is no lady!!!
Posted by: cindy | March 27, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
There is always dirt “around” Obama. When you find “him” dirty then call me……lol
If Obama is guilty of what a pastor says then you are guilty of lying about sniper fire on your arrival to Bosnia..
Stop being un-democratic…..support Obama who is the clear winner and lets beat Mccain. Obama 08
Posted by: enaudnella | March 27, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
westcoastmess….winning at all cost is not winning….it means you have no character…which she doesn’t…I don’t want a president who has no character…winning isn’t everything…
but you evidnetly think it is..
Posted by: cindy | March 27, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Wow, kinda funny how HRC supporters blame ‘you people’ (presumably the press or McCain/Obama supporters)for “nitpicking every little thing Hillary says…” I feel more sorry for Obama who has to worry more about the same nitpicking, but NOT of things HE says, but what may be said by anyone he knows now or ever has known. Half of the statements attributed to him were never said BY him, but they’re taken as fact. I’ve seen and heard words come out of HRC’s (or Bill’s or Chelsea’s, etc) that are lies with video to prove it, and yet I’m supposed to believe ‘she was tired’; ‘she misspoke’; ‘You must have heard wrong’; or better yet, “I was just joking!” Give me a break! I’d rasther have BUSH back again–sorry, that last statement was just a ‘joke’.
Posted by: Kinda funny | March 27, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Doug: Still off the medication: We get it your the Henny Youngman of political pundits.
Posted by: russell | March 27, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
larry996….I lived for 18 years with an alocholic and drug abuser. Does that make me one? No, I turned out pretty good, because I took my experences in life and worked for good…LIFE LESSONS
Posted by: cindy | March 27, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Obama lost one of his supporters and superdelegate, Puerto Rican governor. He was indicted today on corruption.
Posted by: Persio | March 27, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Doug: Thanks for helping me with confirming my latest hypothesis about Obama supporters. There is no relationship between intellegence and being an Obama supporter. Thanks for the help Doug!
Posted by: russell | March 27, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
No re-voting for idiots who can’t follow the rules. But then again, the Clintons have never cared about rules.
Posted by: Doug | March 27, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
I thought Omaba people said that they were better educated than Hillary supporters! So whats the deal with this Doug guy. Well must just be another myth perpetuated by the obamanians!
Posted by: russell | March 27, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
The Clintons and the Bushes are great friends. Is it any wonder that Hillary voted for Bush’s war? I bet Hillary and Bill voted against John Kerry in 2004.
Posted by: Doug | March 27, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Hillary’s website has a petition up to sign to get FL & MI votes counted.
If you believe EVERY American’s vote should count you can make your voice heard!
Obama should NOT be able to steal this election like our current president did.
Posted by: BC | March 27, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Thursday, March 27, 2008
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday continues to show a very close competition in the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination. It’s Clinton 46%, Obama 44%.
Not hesring this being reported. how come-because it shows the Obama lovers poll the media was pushing earlier was a fraud.
Posted by: geevill | March 27, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
Noticed Alberquerque’s mayor Chavez labled Richardson as “having no loyalty” yesterday.
Good for him, he is a “real” Latino, doesn’t even need 2 weeks in a “tanning salon”, nor a goatee to prove it. And… he is much more popular with NM’s and other Latinos than Richardson.
Richardson can’t get Dems. elected in NM, much less natinolly, and dropped out to avoid loosing SW Lation vote to HRC. Look at the representation in NM, Dominici (R), Wilson(R), Pearce the only Dem.
Posted by: MC | March 27, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Poll: Obama leads Clinton nationally By The Associated Press
THE RACE: The presidential race for Democrats nationally
Barack Obama, 49 percent
Hillary Rodham Clinton, 39 percent
Posted by: Justinteim | March 27, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Barack can NOT win the general election, Hillary can. Democrats – if you value our positions on the issues and seek change then your vote should be for Hillary. The electoral college polls and analyses predict she can win.
Posted by: JD, Pittsburgh, PA | March 27, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Thursday, March 27, 2008
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday continues to show a very close competition in the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination. It’s Clinton 46%, Obama 44%.
Stop lying Obamabots
Posted by: geevill | March 27, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
RULES ARE RULES! In life you play by the rules or you don’t play! Quit whinning about the FL and Mich. votes being counted – they didn’t play by the rules and therefor they don’t get to play!!
Posted by: jozy | March 27, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Hey BC, I couldn’t find how to register to revote in FL & MI on her website. Can you please post link? Thanks.
Posted by: kc | March 27, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
JD — either Obama or Clinton could beat McCain in November. So you folks in PA should vote for the one whose policies best fit you economic needs. Both Democratic candidates addressed economic issues this week. (McCain addressed it too, but his speech was a train wreck.)
Posted by: Mokopane | March 27, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
All I hear is Clinton does this to Obama and Obama does that to Clinton All you guys have low IQ. Don’t you all think that Republicans are happy at what is going on between the two? Instead of all Democrats to come together and put an end to this personal attack you are all creating hates and unpleasant situation for the democrats. The republicans sit back and they are laughing and enjoying what all of you are doing to your own party. Don’t you think that’s what the republican want to happen? They want division among the democrats and you guys are falling for it creating a chance for McCain. You are all idiots, don’t you see that what the Reverend said has nothing to do with Obama. Just like we all have freedom of speech in America. You cannot tell me that all Catholic people are Pedophiles because they go to Catholic Church where their priests are pedophiles. Does that make you one? There are lot of good Muslims around the world, the radical Islamic has nothing to do with Obama just because his mother married a Muslim believer. Also, let me tell you this, you are really stupid to make personal attack an issue instead of all you to focus on things that will benefit you in the future. Just because Obama is black does not make him any less a man who can run our country. The man has potential and I think they should give him a chance. Remember, Obama is half white and half black. He is part of you and me and we should accept how God made us. You all think you are Christian and believe in God but you say and do weird things which do not go well with Christians believe. Wake up American, don’t make this election a race issue, and let us face the real issues of no jobs, people loosing their homes, homelessness, the war and all other important things. Stop listening to the right wing radio broadcast and TV, because they are the one carrying hate messages so that McCain can win the election. They really don’t care about you and me. Clinton, please stop lying and stop looking so desperate to win! Obama I love you! They are the one attacking you, your campaign has been very positive all along but they are trying to make you look like Clinton. Keep your calm and I’m for you. I love America. Obama-pres/Clinton-v-pres will be good. Can we all just get along?
Posted by: Tori | March 27, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Actually, Obama’s economic plan is quite savvy. Check it out on his website. Check out Clinton’s too.
Posted by: Mokopane | March 27, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Obamatons if you are going to post a poll include a link.
Now the truth:
Go to Realclearpolitics.com click on Polls and click on Latest Polls to see ALL the latest polls.
I don’t see an “Associated Press” poll but you can see the latest tracking polls (most accurate) have a very tight race.
“Never expect an Obama supporter to tell the truth.”
Posted by: libby | March 27, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
Jason, 12:58:21: If you misinterpreted what Michelle had to say, it is because you wanted to. She was challenging blacks to move beyond their preconceptions (which we all have). Yet you over look that and pick on some meaningless phrase she used. Petty defines you.
Posted by: DennisNC | March 27, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Kenny: How do you like these apples. Hussein Obama will not get the nomination because the superdelegates will turn it over to Clinton. Obama cannot win the big states because THEY JUST DON’T WANT HIM AS PRESIDENT. GET IT? He is not prepared to be president of this country but Hillary and McCain is. He is so stupid he had to copy all the speeches from JFK, MLK and the word hope comes from the speech of RFK because I read it on the internet. He only is interested in capturing the presidency so he can make history as the first black president. For your information Obama is not black or white but MULATTO. And that’s the way it stands. Look it up.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 27, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
As a second generation Mexican-American I am deeply offended that Obama uses “Yes We Can” at his campaign rallies.
This was Cesar Chavez’s slogan for Immigrant and farm workers rights. You can’t just STEAL something like that.
How would you feel is Hillary spewed out ” I have a dream”? …. no no no…
Los Latinos Votamos Clinton!
We Latinos Vote Clinton!
Posted by: Ian C | March 27, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Tori, — you are so passionated defending Obama that you sound like another one of his cult followers. Obama learned big time from his Pastor Rev Wright in how to get into the weak people minds and manipulate them. That’s one of the reason Obama and Michelle never walked out of the church when he was trashing America, the whites, etc.
Now, how much do we know about Obama? = nothing. WE all know by his own admission that he was a pot head (he gave a silly excuse of why he was smoking pot and using drugs), now..how much do we know about this man? NOTHING! and his campaign keep the media busy digging into Bill and Hillary Clinton “well known” past to distract the scrutiny on Obama.
Posted by: Mary_Chicago | March 27, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
From Obama’s Book – His Own Words :
‘Dreams of My Father’,
“I CEASED TO ADVERTISE MY MOTHER’S RACE AT THE AGE OF 12 OR 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites”
From Dreams of My Father, ” I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER’S RACE”.
From ‘Dreams of my Father’, “The emotion between the races could never be pure….. the THE OTHER RACE (WHITE) WOULD ALWAYS REMAIN JUST THAT: MENACING, ALIEN AND APART”
From Dreams Of My Father, “never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. IT WAS INTO MY FATHER’S IMAGE , THE BLACK MAN, THE SON OF AFRICA, THAT I’D PACKED ALL THE ATTRIBUTES I SOUGHT IN MYSELF.
From Dreams Of My Father:
“THAT HATE HADN’T GONE AWAY,” he wrote, BLAMING WHITE PEOPLE,- SOME CRUEL, SOME IGNORANT, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives.”
Posted by: freedom20082009 | March 27, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Ian: You are correct that “Yes We Can” has been used before — by Bob the Builder.
Posted by: Mokopane | March 27, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Hillary supporters – please vote for Obama after the inevitable occurs in June. It is too important to be petty and not vote or to vote for McCain.
McCain = Pro War & Pro Life
Don’t be petty. Please come around.
Obama is a decent guy and he will get
a lot of good people to come into his administration.
Posted by: billy smith | March 27, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
As a political analyst, I am quite convinced that the protracted rivalry within the Democratic presidential campaign, which has, for the most part, been instigated by Hilary Clinton’s insistence on “going all the way”, could only amount to political suicide for the Democratic Party. This, of course, in turn, would cost the Democrats not only the November election, but also would lead o the disenfranchisement of the next generation and those who feel neglected by history in this country. In this campaign, it has become obvious that Obama represents the voice of the youth and those who are tired of the old system and its politics of cronyism, and are craving real change in the political landscape in this country. On the other hand, Hilary Clinton represents mostly the working-class who nostalgically clings to the memories of the economic boom of the 90’s, the repeat of which, from an economic standpoint, is quite unlikely, given the gargantuan tasks ahead, such as, how to end the war in Iraq and Afghanistan (Which some people seem to have forgotten about. America has some 20,000 troops stationed there), and the existence of major international players such as China and India, whose demands for oil and other resources make the repeat of the 90’s nothing more than a just wishful thinking and a pipe dream. America needs an overhaul in its political scene, something that only a new voice that reflects the aspirations of the new generation can achieve. A personality whose charisma can rally people together and can bring about renewed hope. Of course, the word ‘Change’ can sometimes be frightening to some, simply because it might mean letting go of the old habits, which often die hard. However, judging by the state in which America has found itself, thanks to the current Administration’s abrasive policies, both home and overseas, change is inevitable and this can only lead to building a better and stronger America. America and Americans can not afford getting stuck in these political bickerings and divisive policies of ‘Us’ and ‘Them’ while countries like India and China are rising as the new politico-economic powerhouses.
Posted by: One | March 27, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Mary_chicago -
At least he admitted to using drugs, unlike Bill’s – I didn’t inhale.(Right????)
Most folks in their 40′s tried drugs in their teens, so its wrong to admit that?
(Again right????) At least they are not lying like Bill did.
If Obama has been taught ot get into weak peoples minds then what is Christianity about?
An honest man is hard to find – frauds are a dime a dozen…
Posted by: jozy | March 27, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
One: Thank you for a refreshingly erudite analysis.
Posted by: Mokopane | March 27, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
billy smith – No change in hell. I would rather see McCain then a racist running the country.
Posted by: freedom20082009 | March 27, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
To Billy Smith:
I’m a Hillary supporter voting for McCain if Obama is the nominee. It’s not that Hillary might not be the nominee … it is that McCain is a better man than Obama.
Obama does not appeal to me at all.
Posted by: libby | March 27, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
I wonder if any foreign nationals might attend this concert, and whether they might be persuaded to contribute to Hillary’s campaign. Wouldn’t that make her a criminal? And how about illegal aliens from Mexico? Are any of them contributing to her campaign? Should we throw the book at her?
Posted by: Jim Andrews | March 27, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
Doug, yeah Hillary can really pick them, just like Barack Huessin Obama picked Michelle, you know the person who was just recently proud to say she was an American for the first time in her adult life. You hear her comments and then listen to a portion of Rev. Wrights’ sermon and you will also conclude that Obama really knows how to pick ‘em too.
At least the one’s that Hillary picks loves the ladies and the ones that Barrack Huessin Obama picks hates White Americans regardless if they are men, women or children.
Posted by: shalabalaboo | March 27, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
after 41 years of being a faithful democrat, voting and supporting every single democratic candidate chosen, sometimes taking my babies (3 girls) and their babies (3 more girls) if it was the only way i could vote, in snow, rain, you name it – I read this year that 33% of male democrats “will never vote for a woman”
i have left the democratic party
I am now an independent who supports Hillary and will not vote if she is not the nominee
41 years of watching men screw it up over and over
no more
good luck
Posted by: linda | March 27, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Ian C…how about Hillary stealing the “CHANGE” from Obama. All is fair in war….he had no trademark on it…
Posted by: cindy | March 27, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
SOME PEOPLE SEEM TO HAVE DEVELOPED A MORBID FASCINATION WITH REV. WRIGHT AND KEEP BRINGING HIM UP. REMEMBER, HE IS NOT THE ONE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.THEY HAVE COMPLETELY LOST SIGHT OF BIGGER ISSUES.THESE PEOPLE SEEM TO BE BLIND OR DEAF TO THE OBVIOUS FACT THAT HILARY CLINTON IS THE ONLY GUILTY PARTY HERE, AND STOP CONDEMNING OBAMA, WHO HAPPENS TO BE FOUND GUILTY THROUGH ASSOCCIATION (I AM TALKING ABOUT HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH A PASTOR WHO, DUE TO THE NATURE OF HIS PROFESSION, KNOWS LOTS OF OTHER PEOPLE, INCLUDING BILL CLINTON. NOW, ARE THEY ALL GUILTY? ARE THEY ALL UNPATRIOTIC? ARE THESE ARGUMENTS AGAINST OBAMA REALLY ABOUT TRUTH AND TRUTHFULNESS, OR IS THERE SOMETHING MORE DEEP-SEATED CLOUDING SOME PEOPLE’S JUDGEMENTS? IN ALL HONESTY, WHICH ONE IS MORE DANGEROUS? HILARY OR OBAMA? HOW MANY MORE LIES, OR “MIS-SPOKE” INCCIDENTS, SHOULD COME TO LIGHT BEFORE PEOPLE BEGIN TO WAKE UP FROM THEIR STUPORE AND REALIZE THAT HILARY CLINTON WOULD DO ANYTHING, INCLUDING TEARING APART THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND POLARIZING OUR PEOPLE, TO GET HERSELF ELECTED (BY THE WAY, THIS IS NOT ABOUT HER MIXING UP THE EVENTS. SHE NEVER FACED SNIPER FIRE, PERIOD. HOWEVER, SHE BROUGHT IT UP SEVERAL TIMES. IF THAT IS NOT A LIE, THEN, I DON’T KNOW WHAT IS). SHE RATIFIED NAFTA AND NEVER MENTIONED IT WHILE CAMPAIGNING IN OHIO. SHE HAS REFUSED TO RELEASE SOME DOCUMENTS WHICH COULD QUESTION HER CLAIMS REGARDING HER”EXPERIENCE”. SHE SUPPORTED THE INVASION OF IRAQ. SHE HARDLY MENTIONS ANYTHING ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE, WHICH, BY THE WAY, AFFECTS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. SHE LIES ABOUT HER ”EXPERIENCE”. SHE SIMPLY PLAYS THE FEAR AND THE ECONOMY GAME, BECAUSE SHE KINOWS THAT ONCE THE FOOD ON THE TABLE BEGINS TO SHRINK, SOME PEOPLE FAIL TO SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE. IT IS NOT THE MEDIA THAT DISTORT THE FACTS, RATHER, IT IS THE DIRE SHORTAGE OF TRUTH IN HILARY CLINTON’ STATMENTS WHICH SHOULD BE EXAMINED.
Posted by: Realist | March 27, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Those Democrats who would vote for McCain rather than Obama should volunteer for the military so they can sustain our troop levels in Iraq for the next 100 years. But before they go, they should just write a big fat check to a corrupt CEO of their choice.
Posted by: Mokopane | March 27, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
I’m a Hilary supporter who will vote for McCain before Obama gets in. He’s the better man. Any man that picks up for a racist pastor and says he doesn’t know he said those kind of things after 20 years is a LIAR…and probably just as racist…
Posted by: Ryan | March 27, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
jozy, virtually every politician and the majority of non-politicians use drugs of some type. Personally I would never trust someone who has so little curiosity as to have never tried some drug.
Posted by: DennisNC | March 27, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Dear ONE —so -called political analyst.
Thank you for your very deep, ridiculous, and totally one-sided analysis.
Just stuff it, lie back and relax, Hillary will make your miserable life much better.
When the “youth” can pay their own bills, and stop asking their parents, Grandparents, and federal programs for handouts. Then they should think “about being in charge”!
However by that time thay will no longer be “youths”! they know the “real World” then, and I do not mean the one on MTV.
Posted by: MC | March 27, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Billy Smith you wrote “Hillary supporters – please vote for Obama after the inevitable occurs in June. It is too important to be petty and not vote or to vote for McCain.”
I just want to say Obama supporters – please vote for Hillary after the Democratic Party hands her the nomination in June.
Posted by: shalabalaboo | March 27, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
linda…too bad, just being a women doesn’t qualify you to be president…you need integrity, and character…
Posted by: cindy | March 27, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
We have all the posts about “If person X wins the nomination, then I cannot vote for the other person, Y.” So be it.
Posted by: DennisNC | March 27, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
shalabalaboo…actually, I am a Republican, and I see Obama as the only candidate for change…so I won’t vote at all if Hillay gets the nomination. The first time in my adult life( I am 60 years old)…
Posted by: cindy | March 27, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
dirtyliar guy: your efforts to tie Obama to Farrakhan are quite lame, and only serve to prove that you are truth-challenged.
Posted by: Mokopane | March 27, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
I think they should count the votes and I support Obama. But I don’t think that even if she won she would be on top. The democrats need to look at some policies on this one, I think winner take all is the best approch in these things. I heard that Obmama wasn’t even on the ballot in Michigan. Is that true?
Posted by: joe | March 27, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
billy smith…I guess you don’t mind seeing 4000 more young Americans dying for oil?
Posted by: cindy | March 27, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
linda, so you would vote for McCain over Obama because men have screwed it up for so many years? I have a little know fact for you. McCain is also a man.
Posted by: DennisNC | March 27, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Ken……That’s because most of Obama supporters are hypocrites!
Posted by: Justin | March 27, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Joe…that is true, Obama wasn’t on the ballot in MI. The DCC asked all the candidates not to campaign there or put their names in the ballot. Hillary bulked and decided a win would look good, even though she ran against no one…
Posted by: cindy | March 27, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
I wonder how many americans are sorry that they have voted for Obama in their state primary.
Posted by: ken | March 27, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
What ever happend to all those big rallies that Obama was having in stadiums?
Posted by: kelly | March 27, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
linda…check out some of Hillary’s voting record…she voted to go to war. How much more screwed up can you get…
Posted by: cindy | March 27, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Well said, Mokopane: “Those Democrats who would vote for McCain rather than Obama should volunteer for the military so they can sustain our troop levels in Iraq for the next 100 years. But before they go, they should just write a big fat check to a corrupt CEO of their choice.”
Posted by: malthusian77 | March 27, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
They didn’t say they couldn’t put their names on the ballot.
Posted by: kelly | March 27, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Obama on Iraq: Prior To Joining U.S. Senate
While running for senate in 2003, Sen. Obama acknowledged that he took his anti-war speech off his campaign website, calling it ‘dated.’ Specifically, State Senator Obama maintains that an October 2002 anti-war speech was removed from his campaign web site because “the speech was dated once the formal phase of the war was over, and my staff’s desire to continually provide fresh news clips.” [Black Commentator, 6/19/03]
Obama in July 2004: ‘There’s not much of a difference between my position and George Bush’s position [on Iraq] at this stage.’ In a meeting with Chicago Tribune reporters at the Democratic National Convention, Obama said, “On Iraq, on paper, there’s not as much difference, I think, between the Bush administration and a Kerry administration as there would have been a year ago. […] There’s not much of a difference between my position and George Bush’s position at this stage. The difference, in my mind, is who’s in a position to execute.” [Chicago Tribune, 07/27/04]
Obama on 2002 Iraq resolution vote: ‘What would I have done? I don’t know:’ “When asked about Senators Kerry and Edwards’ votes on the Iraq war, Obama said, “I’m not privy to Senate intelligence reports,” Mr. Obama said. “What would I have done? I don’t know. What I know is that from my vantage point the case was not made.” [New York Times, 07/26/04]
In September 2004, Obama says he ‘ would be willing to send more soldiers to Iraq.’ [AP, 9/19/04]
Posted by: Mary | March 27, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Good post freedom20082009 | Mar 27, 2008 4:10:44 PM
And now….. this election is his wrights, ultra liberal guilt cleansing backers revenge!
Check this out the media stil has much, much checking to do on Obama. The “stuff’ flows out like lava, if they will just approach the volcano!
Did Barack Obama Violate the Illinois Governmental Ethics Act?–
Posted by: MC | March 27, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
To Cindy
All the s names were on the ballot in MI. Obama and Edwards took there names off the ballot and asked the voters to vote undecided. Please get your facts straght.
Posted by: freedom20082009 | March 27, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Now that Kris has given us an uplifting and intelligent remark from the world of gutter politics, let’s once again play trivia:
Who proposed, one year and two days before Clinton, a commission to deal with the then looming, now horrific, home foreclosure crisis?
Who stood up to an issue regarding a pastor, but did not condone a spouse for desecrating the Oval Office with both an act of infidelity and a follow-up lie under oath.
Who has dealt with allegations regarding Rezko, but has clean hands regarding Peter Paul?
Who is willing to work with both allies and commanders on the ground to bring our troops home in a reasonable time frame, and not require an irresponsible 6 month withdrawal without consultation of the military?
Who has consistently opposed NAFTA, but then got fingered unfairly for the indiscretions of an opponent’s campaign?
Who has released tax records and earmark requests, while the opponent makes excuses?
Who has an unsurmountable lead in pledged delegates, and even with potential losses in some upcoming states will still come out ahead?
The answer is Barack Obama.
Posted by: Mokopane | March 27, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
But before we go too far on what a wonderful president Bill was and what a great president Hillary would be…let’s not forget these facts!!President Clinton cited executive privilege for his refusal to turn over documents to Congress related to his decision to offer clemency to members of the FALN terrorist group.
In October 2006, the group Judicial Watch filed a request with the U.S. Justice Department for an investigation, alleging that Hilliary had received $107,000 from the Edgar and Vonna Jo Gregory for the pardons, in the form of loans that were never repaid, as part of a quid pro quo scheme.
Marc Rich, a fugitive, was pardoned of tax evasion. Denise Rich, his former wife, had made substantial donations to the Clinton library and to Mrs. Clinton’s senate campaign. Emails uncovered during the course of the investigation revealed that her final donation was provided a year before (guess who??) Scooter Libby requested that she approach Clinton for a pardon. According to Paul Volcker’s independent investigation of Iraqi Oil-for-Food kickback schemes, Marc Rich was a middleman for several suspect Iraqi oil deals involving over 4 million barrels of oil.
Susan McDougal, who had already completed her sentence, was pardoned for her role in the Whitewater scandal; McDougal had served 18 months on contempt charges for refusing to testify about Clinton’s role.
Posted by: labrat | March 27, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Hillary has done and will do anything to get the nomination. perhaps Bill can solicit support from the Chinese. This woman is ruthless. She has never accomplished anything on her own. The only thing she accomplished during her husbands administration was too attack his victems and forgive his indiscretions. People from other nations should not be allwed to get involved in any way. If this woman gets the nomination, I will jump ship and vote for mcCain.
Posted by: Tekrab | March 27, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
So I am correct: In Dreams Of My Father Obama admits to be a racist against the white people and even didn’t like the fact his mother was white. Is that why he called his grandmother a typical white women? Obama stayed with that church because he is as racial as his pastor. The white people should wake up and smell the coffee. Black people are going to vote for him only therefore why don’t many of the white people have the sense to vote for their own. Can you imagine Wright in the white house along with Farrakhan. That’s not the American way.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 27, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Tekrab…I agree with what you say, but don’t jump from the frying pan into the fire…
Posted by: cindy | March 27, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
On February 8, 2008, Barack Obama stood in the aisle of his airplane and told reporters that he would be “fine” with a new primary in Michigan if it could be done in a way that gave him and Senator Clinton time to make their respective cases and the DNC signed off. Since then, such a plan has garnered broad support from top Michigan lawmakers and the DNC has given its blessing.
So Barack Obama is on board, right? Guess again. It turns out that his comments about being fine with a re-vote if the above conditions were met were just words. As yesterday’s headline in the Detroit Free-Press made clear, Senator Obama is the lone standout: “Michigan do-over depends on Obama’s backing, Senate leaders say.”
False Excuse #1: Barack Obama Wasn’t on the Ballot. The Obama campaign argues that their candidate wasn’t on the January ballot because the Michigan primary wasn’t sanctioned by the DNC and they were trying to comply with the early state pledge. Let’s remember that the point of the early state pledge was to protect the role of the four states that held early nominating contests. Well the contests in those states were protected and the people in Iowa, South Carolina, New Hampshire and Nevada got a chance to vote. Keep in mind that nearly twice as many people voted in Michigan and Florida than voted in the four early states combined.
Senator Clinton signed the pledge and kept it. Senator Obama signed the pledge and kept it in Michigan. But in so doing, Senator Obama decided to go further and made a voluntary decision to remove his name from the Michigan ballot. That was his right but it was also his decision. As a result, he denied Michigan the opportunity to vote for a slate of candidates. There aren’t many second chances in life but Senator Obama has one now and should ask the people of Michigan for their vote. Why is he refusing to do so?
False Excuse #2: Obama Voters Participated in GOP Primary. The Obama camp will argue that their supporters voted in the GOP primary because Barack Obama wasn’t on the Democratic ballot. They argue that the legislation’s effort to comply with the DNC rules is unfair since the bill would prohibit people who voted in the 2008 GOP primary in Michigan from voting a second time in the Democratic contest.
Posted by: Mary | March 27, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
labrat…Hillary is NOT Bill….
Posted by: cindy | March 27, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
cindy said —shalabalaboo…actually, I am a Republican, and I see Obama as the only candidate for change…so I won’t vote at all if Hillay gets the nomination. The first time in my adult life( I am 60 years old)…
So Cindy that means you must have voted for Bush 43 twice. Now all of a sudden “you are ready to save the world”!
Pardon my Scoff!
Posted by: MC | March 27, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
And if you thought that stuff was bad you ain’t seen nothing yet. The Republicans have been giving Hillary a free pass and attacking Obama on nonsense because they know if, and I mean big IF, Hillary is the nominee there is much more of this garbage to come! Stay tuned Hillary fans…the show just getting started!!
Posted by: labrat | March 27, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Mokopane:
Obama is a dirty politician.
And about NAFTA. His campaign’s economic adviser did contact the Canadians not Hillary’s campaign.
Obama tried to pin Hillary with it but the truth is that NO CONTACT WAS MADE BY HILLARY CAMPAIGN.
Posted by: libby | March 27, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
mary…rules are rules…Fl and Mi created their own mess. Don’t blame it on any candidate…
Posted by: cindy | March 27, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Myth: Hillary and Bill Clinton have control over which documents are released from the Clinton Library.
Fact: Under federal law, records at the Clinton Library are the property of the U.S. government—not Hillary or Bill Clinton. These records are in the custody and control of the National Archives.
As noted in the Washington Post, “Presidential papers can’t be released at the snap of a finger”; so “[c]alling on the Clintons to release their papers makes for great campaign theater. But it’s theater that has no bearing on reality.” [Washington Post, 2/8/08; 3/1/08].
Myth: Hillary and Bill Clinton have control over when documents from the Clinton Library are made public.
Fact: The Archives released these schedules in response to a Freedom of Information Act request. The Archives processes those requests on a first come, first served basis, and is required by law to review every line of every page.
As the Archives itself has said: “‘We’re releasing them tomorrow because they’re ready tomorrow . . . It was as soon as we could get them out.’” [Washington Post, 3/18/08].
Myth: Hillary and Bill Clinton have delayed the release of her White House records by preventing their release from the Clinton Library.
Fact: Hillary and Bill Clinton do not decide when records can be released from the Clinton Library—the Archives does and has said so publicly on the record.
By law, before releasing any documents, the Archives must conduct a page-by-page, line-by-line review of every record to ensure that confidential, security, and personal privacy information is not improperly released.
The Archives has repeatedly stated that that this painstaking process is cumbersome and responsible for the bulk of the time it takes to review and release material. In this case, the Archives took approximately 6 months to complete its review of more than 11,000 pages. For his part, President Clinton’s representative completed his review in less than 30 days — weeks ahead of the time allotted for his review.
Myth: Hillary and Bill Clinton are responsible for the redactions in the White House schedules.
Fact: The Archives made the redactions. According to the Archives, the majority of the redactions in the schedules pertain to the privacy interests of third parties, including their social security numbers, telephone numbers, and home addresses. This information is withheld under federal law.
In fact, President Clinton asked the Archives, to the extent it could under applicable law, to release extensive material in those records that otherwise would have been excluded.
Posted by: Mary | March 27, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
freedon20082009…again they abided by the DCN rules…..
Posted by: cindy | March 27, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
To miles1967
The only one that needs to leave America is Obama and his RACIST church.
Posted by: freedom20082009 | March 27, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
labrat…I have mentioned nothing about the Clinton library or donations…you got the wrong person….
Posted by: cindy | March 27, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
To Cindy
The DNC never asked anyone to remove their nmaes from the Ballot so they all abided by the rules by either taking their name off or leaving it on.
Posted by: freedom20082009 | March 27, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
First, the Obama campaign has repeatedly said that it would comply with DNC rules and DNC Rule 2.E prohibits cross-over voting. The draft legislation does not permit anyone who voted in Michigan’s Republican primary in January to now vote in the Democratic primary. Senator Obama has said that this is a key reason why he cannot support the legislation but that provision must be in the bill in order to comply with the DNC rules. So while Senator Obama’s campaign says he will follow the rules, he wants one of them to be ignored.
Second, the Obama campaign’s allies in Michigan organized an effort to get people in Michigan to vote for “uncommitted” in the Democratic primary, helping to bring the uncommitted share of vote to 40 percent. So the Obama camp can’t reasonably argue supporters participated in the GOP primary and didn’t vote in the Democratic contest.
False Excuse #4: Michigan Law Requires First-time Absentee Voters Must Vote In Person Before They Can Vote Absentee – Just Like in Illinois. The Obama camp will argue that they are at a disadvantage because a lot of their supporters are college students who vote absentee. But Michigan law says that a person voting absentee must cast a vote in person before they are eligible to vote absentee which will result in the exclusion of many Obama supporters, of whom many are first time voters. The Obama campaign should be familiar with that sort of system since it’s the rule in Illinois and we didn’t hear too much complaining in the run-up to February 5 primary there. More to the point, this rule will be in place in Michigan for the general election. So will the Obama campaign use this excuse to justify writing off Michigan in the general if Barack Obama is the nominee? We hope not.
The bottom line is that Michigan has all the problems and promise that we talk about in this country. Competing in Michigan sends a signal that Democrats care and understand the people there deserve the chance to make their voices heard and need someone in the White House who will hear their voices.
If Barack Obama doesn’t want to help make that happen, Hillary Clinton is ready to do so. We call on the Obama campaign to let the people of Michigan vote.
Posted by: Mary | March 27, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
You all know that if Obama is nominated, 28% of Hillary’s supporters will vote for John McCain and only 19% of the votes McCain will get from Obama people if Hillary won. Do the math! More people dislike Obama than he can imagine!Let me pledge that, If Obama ever get nominated, I will make sure that my family and all my friends will never come out and vote for him. We have a group of 45 people in Dallas went out to vote for Hillary in March 4 and we are proud of it!
Posted by: Kay, Dallas | March 27, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
mary…give it up…Mi and Fl are over…hopefully they can get seated at the convention because I believe, as Obama that their delegates should be counted
Posted by: cindy | March 27, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
To Cindy:
Stop drinking the Obama koolaide. Obama, Edwards and Richardson withdrew to undercut the validity of the primary in MI
They were not asked or required to do so by the DNC.
They tried the same trick in Florida but state law prohibited this trick.
Posted by: libby | March 27, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Those Democrats who would vote for McCain rather than Obama should volunteer for the military so they can sustain our troop levels in Iraq for the next 100 years. But before they go, they should just write a big fat check to a corrupt CEO of their choice.
Posted by: Mokopane | March 27, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Kay: Those Democrats who would vote for McCain rather than Obama should volunteer for the military so they can sustain our troop levels in Iraq for the next 100 years. But before they go, they should just write a big fat check to a corrupt CEO of their choice
Posted by: Mokopane | March 27, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
At the end of the day, I bet you all Clintons will say ELton John is an American….
Posted by: ddn | March 27, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Thanks BC! I think that those people who speak against a revote are idiots. It’s not just the collective we have to think of, but of the individual who will be turned off by not rvoting. they argue MI and FL broke the rules. Is that the fault of the individual voter, did they have a choice. I hope that Howard Dean and Pelosi knows this.
Posted by: ken | March 27, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Sen. Obama has not released any records from his time in the state senate:
Obama: ‘I don’t have, I don’t maintain a file of eight years of work in the state Senate because I didn’t have the resources available to maintain those kinds of records.’ He added, ‘It could have been thrown out. I haven’t been in the state Senate now for quite some time.’ [CBS, 11/14/07]
Obama: ‘I had one staff person that was what was allocated. I don’t have archivists in the state Senate. I don’t have the Barack Obama state Senate library available to me, so we had a bunch of file cabinets. I do not have a whole bunch of records from those years.’ [Chicago Sun Times, 11/10/07]
Sen. Obama touts his new decision to disclose his U.S. Senate earmarks but he refuses to release all earmarks from his time in the state senate:
Obama has been silent on non-federal earmarks he secured while serving in State Senate. “Sen. Barack Obama is open about the pet projects he’s tucked into federal legislation, but it’s a different story when it comes to the extra spending he added to state budgets while serving in the Illinois Legislature…. When Obama served in the state Legislature, from 1997 until late 2004, it was routine for money to be added to the annual budget for lawmakers to dole out. In most years, this was done without any public record of which legislator was sponsoring which grant, leaving no way to tell how Obama used his share of the money. [AP, 3/13/08]
Sen. Obama will not release the name of the broker who managed his controversial ‘semi-blind’ trust:
Obama refuses to name the UBS broker that purchased the stocks in his ‘quasi-blind’ trust. “Obama had about $100,000 he wanted to invest in 2005. The money was a portion of the $1.2 million he got from a book contract. He said Wednesday he decided the $100,000 could be put into something “more high risk” and asked a friend to recommend a stock broker. That friend was donor George W. Haywood, who held what the New York Times called “major” positions in the two stocks Obama ended up owning, Skyterra and AVI BioPharma…. Obama declined to name the UBS broker.” [Sweet column, Chicago Sun-Times, 3/8/07]
Sen. Obama will not disclose what cases he worked on that involved Tony Rezko or his companies:
Obama campaign has not released which cases Obama worked on involving Rezko/Rezmar. “Asked what Rezko cases Obama worked on, Miner (a firm partner) told the Sun-Times, ‘We’ll put together a list of the cases he worked on involving Rezko/Rezmar in the next day or two.’ That was March 13 [2007]. He never provided the information.” [Chicago Sun-Times, 4/23/07]
Posted by: Mary | March 27, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
cindy said —shalabalaboo…actually, I am a Republican, and I see Obama as the only candidate for change…so I won’t vote at all if Hillay gets the nomination. The first time in my adult life( I am 60 years old)…
Either you are lying, Cindy or you voted for DUBYA twice. Which is it?
Posted by: MC | March 27, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
The DNC in 2007 striped FL and MI of its 2008 delegates. It is an indictment of our educational system that so many people cannot understand such a simple statement made in the English language.
Posted by: DennisNC | March 27, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Cindy…It hurts when the truth comes out about your Oboma huh?? I can’t wait if he is the nomonee, that he gets slammed by the Republicans!
Posted by: Mary | March 27, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
You know, Hillary, you might want to contact the Democratic Nat’l Committee and get a list of their rules before doing stupid things.
Posted by: dgfiit | March 27, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
ddn, Being an American might mean giging a friend a hand when she needs it. Or help the cuase you believe in. That is what Elton is doing.
Posted by: ken | March 27, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Fact Check: Sen. Obama Accepts Over $1 Million From Subprime Lending Industry
3/24/2008 3:14:24 PM
The Obama campaign’s response to the comprehensive plan Hillary laid out to address the housing crisis was not to discuss their disagreement with her proposal but to assert that Hillary has received contributions from subprime loan companies.
Considering that Sen. Obama has received $1.18 million from subprime lenders and has taken more campaign contributions from the top ten issuers of subprime loans, that attack rings hollow as just words. Sen. Obama has a record of talking about standing up to special interests and then caving to their demands. Hillary has a 35-year record of standing up to special interests and delivering results.
Obama has taken $1,180,103 from the top issuers of subprime loans. [cq.com]
Obama received $266,907 from Lehman. [Cq.com]
Obama received $5395 from GMAC. [Cq.com]
Obama received $150,850 from CS First Boston. [Cq.com]
Obama received $11,250 from Countrywide. [Cq.com]
Obama received $9052 from Washington Mutual. [Cq.com]
Obama received $161,850 from Citigroup. [Cq.com]
Obama received $4600 from CBASS. [Cq.com]
Obama received $170,050 from Morgan Stanley. [Cq.com]
Obama received $1150 from Centex. [Cq.com]
Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs. [Cq.com]
Sen. Obama has taken more money from the top 10 issuers of subprime loans than Hillary. Sen. Obama has received $434,420 from the top 10 issuers of subprime loans. Hillary has received $364,950. [Cq.com; USA Today]
Posted by: Mary | March 27, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
Obama supporters in both the FL. and MI. legislatures “BLOCKED” votes on re-votes.
In Mi. they actually stalled action until recess.
Posted by: MC | March 27, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Florida and Michigan
The Obama campaign is misleading voters about Hillary’s position on Florida and Michigan:
The Michigan and Florida primaries. Back when it suited her political purposes she said the Michigan primary “didn’t count for anything” and that she wasn’t leaving her name on the ballot to try to legitimize the results. But now that she desperately needs more votes, she’s doing just that. And despite her pledge not campaign in either state, she held two campaign events in Florida.
In the interview that the Obama campaign cites, Hillary made it clear that Michigan was essential for the Democrats chances in the fall and that’s why she left her name on the ballot:
I did not believe it was fair to just say goodbye Michigan and not take into account the fact that we’re going to have to win Michigan if we’re going to be in the White House in January 2009.
Hillary actually abided by the rules not to campaign before the primary concluded, unlike Sen. Obama who ran advertising in Florida.
Posted by: Mary | March 27, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
I have to clarify the listings of Obama’s $$ “support from sub prime companies” that people without any sense are parroting from the Clinton campaign: Each company amount is a compilation of donors of EMPLOYEES THAT WORK AT THE COMPANY, not the company itself. HRC knows this, but hey, why not get the parrots to believe this too?
Posted by: JJ | March 27, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Thanks for answering my question. Is there some limk between NAFTA and Clintons role as a Wal Mart board member? Also why would a person who is for the working class keep unions out of the Nations biggest employer? Its funny to me that after NAFTA has been alowed to run free most of the companies Clinton has ties to are doing so well and all our manufacturing jobs are going to China.Bush likes this as well cause they are his friends too. Also any one who calls me a traitor for supporting Obama e mail me we’ll meet up and we’ll have a good fist fight. Don’t insult anyone like that.
Posted by: Joe | March 27, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
The only way Barack Obama can win the nomination is by disenfranchising 5 million voters in Florida and Michigan, and then stopping the process before Pennsylvania, Indiana, and the others have their primaries. That’s not exactly gently politics.
I understand Hilary Clinton’s positive numbers are down. I don’t think that’s Obama’s fault except maybe seconhand; the press has been pillorying Hillary for weeks and is getting more nasty every day. I don’t think voters are concerned that the contest is not over but the ‘pundits’ (not really) are getting more and more irrational.
Posted by: Adele Loessberg | March 27, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Oh Mary…..so sad. I feel bad for the day you realize the truth about HRC. Its sad, because you are trying so hard to help her. If she only appreciated you….
Posted by: JJ | March 27, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Oh Mary, here we go again. Cutting and pasting things doesn’t do anything if you don’t understand what the words mean. There is a lot of media out there and if you can’t understand what the words even mean (not what they imply), you will continue to be uninformed. Curious though, if you’re willing Mary, what do you make of the lying issue this week? Do you think its important for our next president to be truthful? There was video. What you have on Obama, is all implications and innuendo.
Posted by: JJ | March 27, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Lou, you take the question of whether Elton is a has-been, which has nothing to do with music in general or race, and use it in a racial tirade. You have to be a Republican for whom McCain is far too liberal.
Posted by: DennisNC | March 27, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Fact Check: Organizer of NAFTA Meeting Said Hillary Was A NAFTA CRITIC!
The Obama campaign is claiming that the fact that Hillary attended a meeting on the subject of NAFTA organized by David Gergen is proof that she was a champion of NAFTA.
Here’s what David Gergen said about Hillary’s views on NAFTA:
I was actually there in the Clinton White House during the NAFTA fight and I must tell you Hillary Clinton was extremely unenthusiastic about NAFTA. And I think that’s putting it mildly. I’m not sure she objected to all the provisions of it but she just didn’t see why her husband and that White House had to go and do that fight. She was very unhappy about it and wanted to move on to health care. So I do think there’s some justification for her camp saying, you know, she’s never been a great backer for NAFTA.” [David Gergen, Anderson Cooper 360, 2/25/08]
Posted by: Mary | March 27, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
I guess the documents from her first lady papers that prove she held NAFTA meetings, events and the like in support of NAFTA, those don’t matter. Or the interviews with the woman who were AT THE DINNER where she gave a speech IN SUPPORT OF NAFTA, that doesn’t matter. But, friend and associate Gergin, who the media has been after to fess up to his protective lie says she was opposed in “private.” Once again mary, you miss the mark.
Posted by: JJ | March 27, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
JJ.. Obama knows that if he focused on his experience, he’d get questions about the shortcomings in his record and the efforts he has made to embellish it.
He’d have to deal with the fallout from this week’s Washington Post report on his gross exaggeration of his role on immigration reform and housing policy.
He would have to explain why the New York Times reported that he claims credit for passing nuclear leak legislation that never got out of committee.
He’d have to confront reports from FactCheck.org and other independent organizations that say his claims of providing a universal health care plan are based on selective, embellished and out-of-context quotes from newspapers.
He’d have to discuss the LA Times story that reported on how his fellow organizers say he took too much credit for his community organizing efforts.
He’d have to explain why he regularly claims he was a law professor when in fact he held no such title.
Obama seems to think disingenuous attacks on Hillary will address the concerns voters have about his record and readiness to be the Commander-in-Chief and the steward of our economy.
They won’t.
In the end, Obama’s words cannot erase Hillary’s 35-year record of action because when all is said and done, words aren’t action. They are just words.
All facts babyyyyy
Posted by: Mary | March 27, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Oh yea Mary, Elton John makes crappy music. LOL, take it easy we are on the same side you know. NO WAR NO Mccain!
Posted by: Joe | March 27, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Unlike Obama, Hillary Campaign Never Contacted Canadian Government About NAFTA
CTV reported that a senior member of Obama’s campaign called the Canadian embassy, reassuring officials that Obama’s talk on NAFTA was just campaign rhetoric.
Obama campaign refused to confirm or deny the initial report. Obama and his campaign made a series of false denials about its communication with the Canadian government about NAFTA. A memo from the Canadian government established that the Obama campaign did have a meeting, making assurances contrary to what Obama has told voters.
Posted by: Mary | March 27, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
I mean, she’s already lied SO MANY TIMES, to believe something that comes from her at this point would be foolish, don’t you think?
Posted by: JJ | March 27, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
You should know Mary, The Canadian government announced today that they will be sharing with us the findings of their investigation into the NAFTA “leak.” I guess we’ll see if Bill had anything to do with the “leak” since he flew up to Toronto that weekend. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Posted by: JJ | March 27, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
GUESS WHAT PEOPLE! THIS IS NOW BEING REVEILED!
Michele Obama clearly has a chip on her shoulder.
Not only does she see separate black and white societies in America, but she elevates black over white in her world.
Here is another passage that is uncomfortable and ominous in meaning:
“There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost. ”
What is Michelle Obama planning to do with her future resources if she’s first lady that will elevate black over white in America?
I’M SCARED OF HER!
Posted by: Mary | March 27, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Um yeah. Ruth. What on earth are you talking about? You need to take a step back, relax and re evaluate your media consumption.
Posted by: JJ | March 27, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Mary, I have an exercise for you. Take out the word “BLACK” in what you wrote and replace it with “WOMEN” – how does that sound? Any different?
Posted by: JJ | March 27, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
JJ..Who cares who leaked it..The truth came out about Obama’s dirty tricks of Nafta.
Posted by: Mary | March 27, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
jj…Are you salty that Hillary has majority of Hispanics, all Jews, all Asians, majority of woman & 20% African Americans???? I think you are.. Dont hate the player, hate the game. If you can’t handle the truth then leave..
Posted by: Mary | March 27, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
It matters who leaked it if that person was coerced by Bill Clinton, who happened to have flown to Toronto for a day before this whole thing came out. That’s the curious part. The facts on this subject are entirely misconstrued. He never met with them, it was his advisor and the reporter that asked him asked him if he had a meeting and he said no. The only meeting was 4 weeks prior. The media made this whole story and a lot truly believe it was Bill Clinton who is responsible.
Posted by: JJ | March 27, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Once agian Mary is right who does care who leaked it? I think NAAFTA is an issue both have to adress. I think Obama said that to the Canadians so he doesn’t alienate them. But the thing is if Bill did leak that what would he leak when he gets back in the white house? That isn’t a very cool way of handling things. Any way we shouldn’t vote for Hillary. Change the constitution and get Bill back! LOL!!!
Bill Clinton pres. Barack v.p. 08!!!!
Posted by: Joe | March 27, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
To JJ
The Canadian government is not in Toronto its in Qttawa. Keep driving that Obama Kool-Aid and everything will be OK.
Posted by: freedom20082009 | March 27, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Salty? Why? What matters is votes, and the last time I checked this wasn’t over. So unless you are some kind of clairvoyant, stop with the percentages.
Posted by: JJ | March 27, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
MICHELE OBAMA’S MILITANT RACISM REVEALED
In her senior thesis at Princeton, Michele Obama, the wife of Obama stated that America was a nation founded on “crime and hatred”. Moreover, she stated that whites in America were “ineradicably racist”.
The 1985 thesis, titled “Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community” was written under her maiden name, Michelle LaVaughn Robinson.
Michelle Obama stated in her thesis that to “Whites at Princeton, it often seems as if, to them, she will always be Black first…” However, it was reported by a fellow black classmate, “If those “Whites at Princeton” really saw Michelle as one who always would “be Black first,” it seems that she gave them that impression”.
Most alarming is Michele Obama’s use of the terms “separationist” and “integrationist” when describing the views of black people.
Mrs. Obama clearly identifies herself with a “separationist” view of race.
“By actually working with the Black lower class or within their communities as a result of their ideologies, a separationist may better understand the desperation of their situation and feel more hopeless about a resolution as opposed to an integrationist who is ignorant to their plight.”
Obama writes that the path she chose by attending Princeton would likely lead to her “further integration and/or assimilation into a white cultural and social structure that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full participant.”
Michele Obama clearly has a chip on her shoulder.
Not only does she see separate black and white societies in America, but she elevates black over white in her world.
Posted by: Mary | March 27, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
There is no kool-aid here. Its suspect and Joe is right. More questions need to be answered and hopefully the investigation will provide answers.
Posted by: JJ | March 27, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
jj That’s what <i thought. You haven't a clue. My point is that why America has to be taking the all the blame for a practice that has been practiced for centuries even before it was discovered.Not that slavery in our country wasn't wrong. it was. but It is just that Obama wanted to make it seem that America is the initiater. so I wanted to clarify that he mispoke. You are asking me what am I talking about?
Posted by: ruthmatters | March 27, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
jj That’s what i thought. You haven’t a clue. My point is that why America has to be taking the all the blame for a practice that has been practiced for centuries even before it was discovered.Not that slavery in our country wasn’t wrong. it was. but It is just that Obama wanted to make it seem that America is the initiater. so I wanted to clarify that he mispoke. You are asking me what am I talking about?
Posted by: ruthmatters | March 27, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
LOL that’s funny Cory! I wish I would of thought of that.
Posted by: Joe | March 27, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Joe joe joe! tz,tz. Would of what? That’s “would’ve” thought as in would have thought. Don’t mention it
Posted by: ruthmatters | March 27, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Well not surprising as Elton John is English, and in that country they’re about 10 decades behind us in almost everything, so the idea of a powerful Black person is still very alien to the British…
Hil-LIAR-y has already set the timer on her campaign, and its set to explode. It’s MATHS and now a matter of time!
So all you Clintonites start preparing for your futures more vigorously, hold he college fund for your 10 yrold, cos they won’t be needing it where they’re going! Our next President will be McCain according to 34% of Clinton extremist.
I have been supporting Obama since he began his journey, and i hold my reasons for doing so. But I would first offer my soul then vote for what would be another 4 years of a Bush administration.
My Mother who we both have been members of the same party for over 15years is a Clinton extremist. In her own words, she would rather ‘vote for what she has fought against for the last decade then see a Black man hold the highest position of power in the land’. My mother is not a racist but rather she is uncomfortable with the situation and will switch parties if Obama is elected.
All you extremist fanatical Clintonites should be ashamed to attempt to sing our great National anthem.
We need to stop this NOW and get the Democratic party’s common views & values that unites us all.. More importantly WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT OUR PARTIES SAKE, FOR OUR COUNTRYS SAKE, FOR THE WORLD’S SAKE.
IT IS TIME FOR THE CLINTON FAMILY EGO TO STEP ASIDE ONCE AND FOR ALL, AND STOP BESIEGING OUR GREAT AMERICAN DEMOCRACY!!
THE CLINTONS MUST LEARN TO BE GRACIOUS IN DEFEAT AND LOSE WITH SOME INTEGRITY STILL LEFT IN TACT, WHILE YOU HAVE THE CHANCE. THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT HER DIVINE RIGHT, AND NEVER HAS BEEN!!!
OBAMA’08
Posted by: Jay McMahon | March 27, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
Hey, Jay, the pot should not be calling the kettle black. Obama extremists would do the same thing if Hillary becomes the nominee — that is, they would switch parties or refuse to vote in the general election altogether. That is the trouble with the current situation in the Democratic party. Each side is very much for their candidate and this can only help the Republicans.
Posted by: sam | March 27, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
So who’s paying for Elton John’s airfare and accommodations? Just curious.
Posted by: Tom J | March 27, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
IF Obama ends up being the Democratic nominee, the Republicans are going to quickly chew him up and spit him out. All they need to do is what the media appears to be holding back on for now…that is look closely at exactly where he was when Jeremiah Wright was spewing his hateful sermons. Quite conveniently, he claims he wasn’t “in church” on those days, but that seems highly unlikely as Wright gave many such sermons and he was Obama’s pastor for 20 years.
IF he ends up being the Democratic nominee, Obama will lose to McCain and we’ll get 100 more years of the Iraq war.
Posted by: SG | March 27, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
I think the people who are commenting on the wright issue are just clutching for straws. There is no guilt there its just guilt by association.
The guys accusing this are the same guys who accused barack as a muslim. Now they say he is a christian and a racist. All this tells me that somehow they want to point their fingers at barack.
The only reason for them to do this is because they are uncomfortable with a black. Look at it yourself anybody with half a brain can say that these things are a stretch.
Posted by: dheep | March 28, 2008, 6:40 am 6:40 am