Michigan to Hold a Caucus?

This will work well in favour of Obama. Michigan is a heavily populated African-Americans. They have got a lot of delegates. To make the matter even worse, it will be caucussing! which as it has shown earlier, does not work in favour of Hillary at all.

This thing is really a mess and maybe Dean does not really care about this election but if he does not sort out this they will lose FL.
I really don’t understand if the so want a Democrat in the WH why are they not finding some way to solve this issue, even if Obama get nominated they they really feel that after leaving out FL these voters will run to the poll to give Obama their vote?
Obama his self is even dumber than I taught he is putting his self in a position where FL voters will turn against him in the GE, maybe all he wants to do is win the nomination to prove that he can beat Hillary, when it comes to the GE he does not really care who wins.

That is why Hillary cannot win the general election. All her remarks about caucus states , red states will come back to hunt her should she be the nominee. How can Ohio and California, illinois, Misouri be the only states that will decide the general election.

“I want the next president to be a Republican, he said, but “I’m the governor for all the people in Florida.”
Honestly I have to admire this man, this Republican governor in FL is sure making some of the democrats and the DNC look rather classless.
As a republican he is interested in all the people of FL that their votes are recognized and that is how it should be, Dean should be ashamed, and am very sure democrats will not forget this.

The Black Knight in Shining Armor was
double checked by the Queen by toppling
down his Two Ivory Towers in Ohio and Texas. He wants to continue playing believing that he crashed her in 12
battle grounds.
Senator Obama has nothing to lose. If he wins the nomination or not, he comes out
the winner in his landmark rivalry against the Clintons.
However, in the ultimate end, his is his name to be remembered. Powerless. A symbol of symbols with the vibrancy of a dead coconut tree. Fra

caucasing is unconstitutional it should be removed from all states!

Okay folks, stopping drinking the Clinton Koolaid about caucuses. Some states that have caucuses, Maine for example, allow absentee balloting for those that cannot physically attend. Why wouldn’t that be fair?

a) how do you hold a caucus for 1 million people. LAst I heard the DNC was offereing about one caucus site a county.
b) If less people vote than last time, almost certain, Texas caucuses are at about 50% of the primary, they have still disenfranchised people.
Caucuses are about PArty dihards getting together to decide motions for convention, not about a million people picking between two names. To have a caucus for this is absurd.
A mail in vote, paid for by the party, makes more sense.

Maybe next time Michigan and Florida should play by the rules.

You should not punish the people of Florida and Michigan for something the admistration did. The people had no voice in changing the election date and a caucus does not represent the entire state, if the states are willing to pay for another election I say let them do it so all the people can be heard in those states.

The Black Knight in Shining Armor was
double checked by the Queen by toppling
down his Two Ivory Towers in Ohio and Texas. He wants to continue playing believing that he crashed her in 12
battle grounds.
Senator Obama has nothing to lose. If he wins the nomination or not, he comes out
the winner in his landmark rivalry against the Clintons.
However, in the ultimate end, his is his name to be remembered. Powerless. A symbol of symbols with the vibrancy of a dead coconut tree.

Florida is very different. Unlike what many would like people to believe it was not the Democratic Party that moved up the date but rather the state legislature and Governor which are Republican. Moreover, the pledge by the candidates was not to campaign there which they all followed (except for Obama’s national TV ad buy and BOTH doing fundraisers there) but both Obama and Hillary had their names on the ballot in Florida so supporters of Obama had the ability to vote for him if they chose to. Having a re-vote could be somewhat unfair as circumstances have changed, monies have been raised and spent, and things have been said by all parties that could change the outcome. That said it is important that we figure out a way not to disenfranchise Florida voters which the Obama team and the DNC (Howard Dean) seem content on doing.

A caucus can work. That’s the way the Michigan Democratic party made its choice in 2004 and in previous years. (I’ve previously attended some of them). The caucus in 2004 included mail in and online voting so I presume the set up would be similar. I could get behind that idea.

hey, now i know why obama *wins* caucuses. i voted in both parts of the texas two-step. and i want to tell you that obama brownshirts were intimidating older women voters and people with families (pretty much anyone who they thought might not be for their guy) I hope the Michiganders who dare to caucus for Clinton are ready to run the gauntlet. I recommend everyone bring cameras and recording devices because the atmosphere is truly hostile and intimidating.
Which is not to even mention that 3 million people voted in Texas and the caucus sites were not equipped to handle 1 percent of the volume (about 40,000 votes counted so far and that is 41% of the caucus votes recorded) Caucuses are not democratic, no one should have to suffer being bullied and treated badly in order to vote. That is why the private ballot was created anyway. It is much easier to control the process when you make people declare their choice in the face of intimidation.

How people can even begin to lump Florida and Michigan primaries together is beyond me. In Michigan(and I am a Michigander), there was a Soviet style “primary”. Michiganders had a choice of voting for Clinton or voting for “uncommitted” which meant the delegate COULD vote for Clinton because they were unpledged. Furthermore, the average citizens of Democratic persuasion in Michigan were given absolutely no choice in moving the Primary to 1/15/08. I am absolutely furious with our Governor and many of the “super delegates” who advocated this plan. The DNC did NOT disenfranchise Michigan, these idiots advocating the January 15th primary did. A lot of us did not vote because MICHIGAN disenfranchised us. Don’t blame the DNC, and certainly don’t seat this unrepresentative delegation at the Democratic convention. THAT would be the injustice!

Everyone agreed to the rules until the Clintons decided they didn’t suit their interests. I’m sick of her claims of unfairness. If she had a bitch she should have stated it well before now.
I’m beginning to lose any respect for her with the tactics of win at all costs. The more her desperation degenerates into abnormal behavior, the more apparent becomes the difference between the candidates.
Laws are laws and rules are rules. All Democrats remember how Florida was stolen by Bush and his hired guns. Is Hillary planning a sequel which would destroy the party’s chances for years?

The people against caucuses have obviously never been to one. I’m an Iowan, and I love the caucus process. It starts with everyone in your community meeting in the local school gym. The chairman stands up and askes for a representative for each candidate to give a stump speech for their candidate. It’s a great way to learn about the lesser known candidates (who the heck was Duncan Hunter, etc.) Then you take the straw poll by dividing up into your smaller districts, writing your candidate of choice on a slip of paper, and having the caucus leaders do a vote count. I would hope that everyone would have learned more about the candidates before showing up (most Iowans take the process seriously), but if you’re clueless you have ample opportunities to ask questions of other caucus goers/candidate reps and have a better chance of making an informed decision. The caucus system has positives and can work well, especially in states like MI which have a long history of running them.

michigan wants caucuses because they’re cheaper. but they heavily favor obama and everyone knows it. in texas, his supporters were not just psychologically but also physically bullying hillary supporters, and taking over caucus sites and mysteriously “losing” the sign in sheets of hillary supporters. they also ran over a bunch of headstones in a cemetery next to a church where caucuses were being held – disgraceful!

Does anyone know Obama’s position on reparations for slavery? I’m particularly curious since he’s not a descendant of slaves himself.