Mar 17, 2008 10:28pm
More on Wright and Obama
Our GMA Report can be watched HERE.
Interesting other tidbits….In April 2007, Wright told the New York Times, “If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me. I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen.”
In Philly right now to cover Obama’s big speech tomorrow.
-jpt
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Not very good judgment on Obama’s part. I bet he wishes he had listened.
Posted by: Tina D | March 17, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Obama will experience the wrath of America this week because he has lied
Posted by: MattOhio | March 17, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
LOL this is old news that has been posted by myself and others for a week. Are we your source Jake?
Good to bring it out though. Just another poor judgement example for Obama and proof that he knew something would not be acceptable about Wright’s sermons. Hmm ooops obamadoo happens!
Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
hiya MattOhio – hey i got accused of being a paid troll for McCain now LOL
Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
i posted that on here 3 days ago Jake. you’re a little behind
Posted by: max | March 17, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
From MediaMatters watchdog:
“Mitchell, who served as a U.S. special envoy to Northern Ireland and chaired the talks leading up to the 1998 Good Friday Agreement, said in a March 10 interview with CBS’ Katie Couric that he thought the statements Clinton made regarding her role in the peace process “are generally accurate to the extent that they have been relayed to me.” Additionally, Mitchell, who has not endorsed a candidate for president, also said: “Her greatest focus was on encouraging women in Northern Ireland to get in and stay in the political process, the peace process. And I have said publicly many times and wrote in my book, the role of women in the peace process in Northern Ireland was significant. It did … make a difference in the process, so as I said I think it was a helpful and supportive role.”
The only blarney is that coming out of the Obama camp!
Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
There is not much Obama can say on Wright with his speech tomorrow I think it was FOX that was quoting from one of his book today, they gave the page also, where he mentioned words similar to Wright about white domination in the world today.
Seems like Obama did take a cue from Wright if he was not at the service he listened to his tapes because the wording in the book on that particular page was the same as Wright’s rhetoric.
Fox is not going to let this rest that is for sure.
Posted by: SJ | March 17, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
Obama campaign is just jealous jerks who are distorting everything….someone should ask them why are they still talking about Ferraro…when they themselves are pushing Wright under the rug…..DOUBLE STANDARDS GALORE…
Posted by: MattOhio | March 17, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
More rhetoric from Obama tomorrow. But actions speak louder than words.
Obama is responsible for the people he chooses to associate with and support financially. This issue cuts to the core his character and judgment.
For 20+ years, Obama and his family have sat clapping in the pews of this vile, racist, Anti-American clown’s so-called church. He has donated tens of thousands of dollars to this church including $22,500 last year alone to further the message of hate and divineness.
Anyone who was a “uniter,” as Obama claims he is, would have walked out of that church decades ago.
Anyone who wasn’t racist, as Obama claims he isn’t, would have walked out of that church decades ago.
Anyone with good judgment, as Obama claims he has, would have walked out of that church decades ago.
Anyone who loved America, as Obama purports, would have walked out of that church decades ago.
Anyone with good moral character, as Obama claims he has, would have walked out of that church decades ago.
OF COURSE Obama knew about the hate monger Wright. He has had a close relationship with the guy for nearly 25 years. Obama enjoyed Wright’s rhetoric and agreed with him — otherwise he would have left the church decades ago.
Obama is racist con man and Trojan horse for hate. Nothing more.
Posted by: Jack | March 17, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Anyone who was duped into voting for Obama must be furious.
The Democratic Party is now stuck with a racist, old school Black Nationalist and con man as its nominee for president.
Good luck with that “uniter” thing Obama. We see how committed you and your “uncle” have been to uniting the country over the last 25 years together.
As if that’s not enough, Obama and his whopping two years of federal experience (most of which he has simply spent campaigning for president) are supposedly going to lead America and the world during these especially challenging times.
My God. Unbelievable.
Posted by: if you be wise | March 17, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
I just noticed today on a Wright sermon that he mentioned about Iraq and no WMD’s found. Obama mentioned the same thing on one of his stump speeches.
Obama is deriving his ideas from Wright’s speeches. This is amazing!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: MattOhio | March 17, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Not to mention a blatant IRS violation to endorse or campaign for a candidate in church. They are so stupid they video-taped it, sold videos, published transcripts, and Obama particpated in the violations of law and failed to advise them correctly. What poor judgment. I wonder if there are any laws that allow the IRS or FEC to prosecute Obama?
Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
What about the Ethics Reform Bill that he says he proposed???? I bet that would get him in trouble with the govt…ironically
Posted by: MattOhio | March 17, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
kravitz, i dont get this idea that people think seeing the Wright and BHO stories “scares” the white people. It does nothing of the kind to me. It just pisses me off royally.
He is one smooth talking…, oops, cannot say.
Posted by: pp | March 17, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Get ready. We’re going to be lectured on race by Obama in the morning so he can try and play the victim (again) and guilt us into buying his lies.
Posted by: Wow. | March 17, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Lied, Obama has lied all the through his campaign.
I think obama should have to supply all the speeches he gave at all the churches he campaign at. Or any speeches he gave to churches during his campaign.
Posted by: seah | March 17, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Don’t write his political obituary yet. What could trump black and white could be green. If this economic slide goes further, this issue might be put in the back burner. He might have lucked out that this took off on Friday and the story was over-exposed during the weekend. This is a new day and the traction is slipping on this story and today has lots of headlines = new New York Governor, Tibet, Baer Sterns, etc.
Tomorrow – we’ll see if speechifies it away or he just re-opens the wound.
BUT whatever happens tomorrow, if he gets the nod… it will come back in the Fall.
Posted by: smartprimate | March 17, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Out of an abundance of curiosity I went to the Oprah site to check on its message board. (Never thought I would ever have an occasion to do that. LOL). Well there are literally hundreds of posts about Rev. Wright and Obama connection, with the added gloss of Oprah. The tenor is about the same as that on Politial Punch. How very funny.
Upshot: No matter the intellectual bent, people are irate, apalled and feel duped by Obama.
Posted by: marie | March 17, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Now tell me, Obama bashers, why not use the qualifications ‘just words’, ‘mere speech’ etc. for Wright’s sermons as well?
It’s one way or the other when it come to accepting and understanding the value and impact of words.
When Obama speaks in the way that made him world famous in no time, you’ll tell yourself “it’s just words”.
When however you’d find a slip of his tongue somewhere in a dusty blog, you’d come up it all over the place as if you found a incredible treasure, and quote and repeat that slip ad infinitum.
Well, I guess that’s how silly you are.
Tomorrow’s speech will be historic one, you can count on that.
It will be just words -
just as the Bible, the Constitution and the Law.
Posted by: Trent | March 17, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
yep smartprimate… no doubt this will be the nail in the coffin if he gets the nom… but Clinton is clearly stronger on voter confidence relating to issues and the economy.
Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
OH Good God… I just heard Zogby say that to stem a bloodletting in the Democratic party, he says that a good alternative may be Gore/Obama ticket.
HAS HE GONE OUT OF HIS MIND!!!
Is he a Pollster or is HE running to be the Great Decider!
Posted by: smartprimate | March 17, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
Per Thomas Jefferson and John F Kennedy, the separation of church and state must be absolute. Obama is violating that the same way Republicans do by even bringing religion into the race. Just another Bush.
Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
you are about to be bamboozled tomorrow.
Get out the handkerchief and the crocodile tears.
The violins will be playing in the background
Posted by: Euphoria | March 17, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
There arent enough delegates left for Gore to enter the race anyway LOL let’s see Gore and McCain debate… zzzzzzzzzz
Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Trent,
Did not hear anything that sounded like it was out of the Bible, the Constitution, or “civil” law spewing from wright’s mouth. If that is where BHO was getting his morale character, we are all in trouble.
Posted by: pp | March 17, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
“Obama’s speech at the Constitution Center is by invitation only.”
Posted by: Navarro | March 17, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Obama obviously lied when he said he had never heard Wright making any incendiary comments in his presence. For this and this only, he should drop out. But with the news about Florida tonight, I’m sure he wouldn’t. He would instead try to bluff his way out of his lies tomorrow and people like Nancy Pelosi will be cheering for him. As a Democrat and Hillary supporter, I feel very sad tonight.
Posted by: Josh | March 17, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Navarro – big surprise stacked audience.
Posted by: DCVoter | March 18, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
Lied about what exactly??!!!! I keep seeing in these stupid posting boards that Obama “Lied.” HE didn’t say any of those comments in question. Someone else did. Are we going to hold McCain responsible for every offensive thing Falwell and Robertson has ever said?! This double standard is unbelievable. You people are incredibly shallow.
Posted by: dem in chicago | March 18, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
From a 2004 speech:
Interviewer: “So why have you ruled that out…running nationally?”
Obama: “I am a believer in…….(pregnant pause)……….knowing what you’re doing…when you apply for a job…”
“If I were to seriously consider running on a national ticket…I would essentially have to start now…before having served a day in the Senate. Now there might be some people who would have no problem doing that, but ah…I’m not one of them“.
He admitted later per a CNN report that several Senior dems asked him to run (knowing he would not be able to do his job and was not qualified). Let me guess… the liberals who couldnt win before coaxed him? Some conviction eh?
Posted by: DCVoter | March 18, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
dem in – the numbers show the majority of people believe he lied about not knowing about Wright’s views. There is a lot of evidence in previous interviews and news articles. Durbin (surrogate for Obama) lied today about Wright and even Obama’s spokesperson admitted Durbin lied. He is losing ground fast. He has lost voter confidence in his judgement and credibility and that was all he had going for him.
Posted by: DCVoter | March 18, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
So, according to this report, Rev. Wright’s view about 911 was known to Obama at least a year ago…
He will try his best to give more great words tomorrow.
Posted by: YD | March 18, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
He will have to answer for more than just Wright’s views on 911. There is so much more than just that.
Posted by: DCVoter | March 18, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
This is really a sad thing. If Obama tries to compare Ferraro to Wright in his speech I will never vote for him even as a VP.
This is not a race issue at all. It is about poor judgement and the BIG lie that he didn’t notice the radical political rhetoric and slander against the Clintons that was taking place in his own church.
I think it is also inappropriate and not fair what the Obama campaign did to Geraldine Ferraro. The continued race baiting by Obama’s campaign is over-the-top and the way the media is participating is and will always be a shame.
Wright and Obama are 2 different men and Obama is not to blame for what Wright said….except for the fact that by listening to this particular social gospel for 20 years he has contibuted to the problem and therein lies the judgement issue. So he claims not to have realized that these political and social teachings were going on at the church. Again judgement is really lacking if that is true.
Posted by: Jackie | March 18, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
Nothing about this race is ever written in stone. But the quiet growth of Obama’s delegate cushion is the big story of the moment — far bigger, in fact, than the sensationalized stories about what Geraldine Ferraro or Jeremiah Wright Jr. have or have not said.
Posted by: Vega | March 18, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am
Obama has a well orchestrated campaign to mislead America. How many times does this guy have to get caught in a lie before we all realize how much a fraud he is? I have seen and heard so many journalists on tv bypass his behavior by saying, ” he is a nice guy” Nobody really knows Obama for who he really except for the part he wants us to see. I am convinced more than ever if he is the democratic nominee we should all prepare ourselves for another four years of republican rule.
Posted by: mona | March 18, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
I’m pretty sure Obama’s opponents couldn’t have done him a greater favor than providing him with he opportunity to discuss his great themes (race, religion, politics, a unified America) on a national stage, with complete media coverage and worldwide attention.
That is how historic speeches come to exist. After tomorrow’s speech, Hillary Clinton will have reduced to a totally mediocre politician without a call, a cause and a vision.
This is going to be Obama’s finest hour so far.
Posted by: Harko | March 18, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Man, what now! This guy cannot stay under the radar! He is corrupt and dishonest. I’m glad that my Republican buddies are now voting for Hillary.
Obama is toast!
Posted by: Meck | March 18, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
“Wright left for Africa with his family last week and declined to comment.”
– Eli Saslow, WashingtonPost
Posted by: Navarro | March 18, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Hillary left college and went about making money.
Barack left college and went about halping to improve other people’s lives.
And Hillary hates that. Because it steals Bill’s thunder.
Focusing your life solely on making a buck shows a poverty of ambition. It asks too little of yourself. And it will leave you unfulfilled.
There’s a lot of talk in this country about the federal deficit. But I think we should talk more about our empathy deficit – the ability to put ourselves in someone else’s shoes; to see the world through those who are different from us – the child who’s hungry, the laid-off steelworker, the immigrant woman cleaning your dorm room.
Not only that – we live in a culture that discourages empathy. A culture that too often tells us our principle goal in life is to be rich, thin, young, famous, safe, and entertained. A culture where those in power too often encourage these selfish impulses.
They will tell you that the Americans who sleep in the streets and beg for food got there because they’re all lazy or weak of spirit. That the inner-city children who are trapped in dilapidated schools can’t learn and won’t learn and so we should just give up on them entirely. That the innocent people being slaughtered and expelled from their homes half a world away are somebody else’s problem to take care of.
I hope you don’t listen to this. I hope you choose to broaden, and not contract, your ambit of concern. Not because you have an obligation to those who are less fortunate, although you do have that obligation. Not because you have a debt to all of those who helped you get to where you are, although you do have that debt.
Posted by: kravitz | March 18, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Vega,
Wait till Florida and Michigan’s numbers are added, joined by Penns….the superdelegates will flock to Clinton. And contrary to veryone’s prayer, the purpose of the superdelegates when designed in the early 1980′s was to vote, INDEPENDANTLY, of the states delegates.
Posted by: pp | March 18, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
kravitz – posting Obama propaganda isnt going to work anymore. Clinton has a documented record of working for civil rights, human rights, and children both in college and after college. It is her life’s work along with her professional and political experience. Obama and Michelle are in the top 2% of the country’s moneymakers and they didnt get there by working for the poor. Both are ivy league graduates who want you to believe they are middle class which is not true.
Posted by: DCVoter | March 18, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
I look at ABC t v because of Oprah, but I now wonder why the news keep beating a dead horse with a hammer, you sound so racist from that point of view, aferall, how much can you hold Obama’s feet to the fire for the words, deeds and opinions of others. You(the chairman/director/decision-maker)are so transparent, we can see you from a mile off. We are moving on to a new day, eventho, African-Americans have a right to feel upset, just look at how unfair and unbalanced the news media is, even to the present day and right in our faces. It is bias and boring!!!
Posted by: HonBeeFly | March 18, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
MattOhio,
Do I have to believe all Catholic priests are child molester because they have some of them in their group in big number or should I say, if you go to any of those Churches, you are part of them too..Enough playing Race card and your so called patriotisms..judge people for their work and action..not what their teacher said..or pastor said..otherwise..we have put people in jail when their uncle did a crime!
Be open minded and accept the fact that CHANGE IS COMING TO AMERICA, YOU READY OR NOT!!
OBAMA08!!!YES WE CAN!!!
Posted by: RC | March 18, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
The Clintons sordid past is an open book—the Travelgate, Pardongate, Chinagate, cattle-futures, Whitewater scandals; the using Marines as waiters; the IRS auditing of critics; the hiring of detectives to dig up dirt on women seduced by Bill; the Monica Lewsinki trysts in the rooms of the White House; the 50+ deaths by murder, suicide, accidents and sudden illnesses of people connected the Clinton regime; the Impeachment.
The sinister schemes of the old Clinton machine to retake power will be defeated once and for all…People will win…Hillary and McCain will be wayside casualties…Just facts…
Posted by: Wendy | March 18, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
Obama is not losing ground because of what Wright said or because of racism. It is about judgment, character, integrity, honesty, and credibility… all of which he has lost the voters’ confidence. Since he doesnt have a significant amount of experience and qualifications, he lost his platform. Give it a week and let’s see how the voters feel.
Posted by: DCVoter | March 18, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am
MattOhio:
OBAMA WILL WIN..NO MATTER HOW MANY LIES YOU POST IN THIS BLOG!!
OBAMA08!!!YES WE CAN!!
Posted by: RC | March 18, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
Listen DCVoter, if you want to start with the IRS stuff maybe we should get that un-redacted Barrett Report out here so that we all can see how the Clinton’s used the IRS as their own personal hit squad. That would be fine with me. Or perhaps open up that whole Henry Cisneros pardon thing…or Hillary’s brother getting paid to set up some pardon’s for Bill to sign before he left office.
If you think that you are going to continually troll this site and work the crowd into a lynch mob for Obama, you better be prepared for the pay back. Your candidate is not without fault. And please don’t insult anyone’s intelligence by saying she has been throughly vetted. Oh, no, much more to toss out there. And it sure doesn’t hurt to remind folks of all that unsavory stuff that they might have forgotten in the past 8 years.
All you people so outraged by a church and a preacher…with the hate you all pedal, it is amazing that you can keep up this farcical, feined outrage.
OH, and for the record…most of what Wright said was right. And you people prove it better than any sermon he ever preached!
Posted by: KP | March 18, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
honeybeefly, he can be held with his feet to the fire till they burn..he sat with, dined, talked, befriended that hatemenger of a psator for twenty years. It reflects on his judgement,sense of fair play, and fitness to run the country.
And wendy, when Bill Clinton was in office I, along with the vast majority of the country was enjoying prosperous, war-free, progressive times, where we were out of debt, and were respected around the world.
Posted by: pp | March 18, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
Just words. Is Wright’s God Da*n America just words, Obama? Just words. I agree. Words do matter.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 18, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
If the New York TImes said it, it must be true. Did anyone else see Kristol’s retraction on his op-ed today? He either lied, about Obama and his church or was too lazy to pick up a telephone and check a story.
So on the same day Political Punch quotes the NYT on Wright and Obama and I’m supposed to believe it?
But if we’re going to talk religion, let’s talk. Should we prohibit Orthodox Jews from politics because their morning prayer includes the words “thank God I was not born a woman?” Do we exclude Catholics because they go to mass every Sunday (including my Mom) – even though a sizable number of priests are child molestors (including the one, as it turns out who baptised my daughter)? Do we prohibit “Christians” because they believe Jews will be slaughtered unless they convert? Where do we draw the line? Do we exclude Mormons because they believe men will get their own planet when they die? (Maybe) We’re down to Episicopalians and Methodist, and as far as I can tell, their deepest belief is that they should wear nice suits and be elected at any costs – forget all that Christianity stuff.
Posted by: Mara | March 18, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
The age old politics of personal destruction is the only trick Far Rightwing and now Hillary is capable of. They killed John Kerry by Swiftboating him. Now the blood thirsty monsters are coming after Obama, not for what he said but for a pastor. Americans will decide whether they want to let these monster Carl Rove molds should win and continue to rule this great country as usual…
Posted by: Pete | March 18, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
Wendy makes a good point about the Clinton’s record above. Their record is not that flash that is for sure.
Come November McCain may be the best choice for the next 4 years.
Posted by: Kottaras | March 18, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
That should be Wendy below….makes a solid point about the Clinton’s record.
Posted by: Kottaras | March 18, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
The church violated IRS law and our constitution. Tell it to the Kennedys… JFK had it right. Bringing the church into politics is illegal and the same thing the Republicans do. Obama’s speech tomorrow is invite only – stacked audience… just like Bush.
Bill Clinton is not on the ticket so any mention of his activities are moot.
Posted by: DCVoter | March 18, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
Kravitz
Hillary went to work after college for the “Children’s Defense League’ more of an advocate for children than a high paying job….
You need to check your facts.
Posted by: Jackie | March 18, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4th, 1961. His father, Barack Obama Sr., was born and raised in a small village in Kenya, where he grew up herding goats with his own father, who was a domestic servant to the British. Barack’s mother, Ann Dunham, grew up in small-town Kansas. Her father worked on oil rigs during the Depression, and then signed up for World War II after Pearl Harbor, where he marched across Europe in Patton’s army. Her mother went to work on a bomber assembly line, and after the war, they studied on the G.I. Bill, bought a house through the Federal Housing Program, and moved west to Hawaii. It was there, at the University of Hawaii, where Barack’s parents met. His mother was a student there, and his father had won a scholarship that allowed him to leave Kenya and pursue his dreams in America. Barack’s father eventually returned to Kenya, and Barack grew up with his mother in Hawaii, and for a few years in Indonesia. Later, he moved to New York, where he graduated from Columbia University in 1983.
Posted by: kravitz | March 18, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
The College Years. Remembering the values of empathy and service that his mother taught him, Barack put law school and corporate life on hold after college and moved to Chicago in 1985, where he became a community organizer with a church-based group seeking to improve living conditions in poor neighborhoods plagued with crime and high unemployment. The group had some success, but Barack had come to realize that in order to truly improve the lives of people in that community and other communities, it would take not just a change at the local level, but a change in our laws and in our politics. He went on to earn his law degree from Harvard in 1991, where he became the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review. Soon after, he returned to Chicago to practice as a civil rights lawyer and teach constitutional law. Finally, his advocacy work led him to run for the Illinois State Senate, where he served for eight years. In 2004, he became the third African American since Reconstruction to be elected to the U.S. Senate.
Posted by: kravitz | March 18, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
I am a 34 yr hispanic and my generation didn’t experience, racism like the years before. So when his pastor says these things it’s hard for us to understand. We can’t relate…..it just sounds like plain old hate no matter if he’s a church leader/ community servant. The man posed as a servant of God, but I just see him as another fallen angel, that disobeyed God.
I don’t care if it’s a 7 second sound bite, people celebrate this crap. Look at the tapes!!!
Posted by: Veronica | March 18, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
Political Career. It has been the rich and varied experiences of Barack Obama’s life – growing up in different places with people who had differing ideas – that have animated his political journey. Amid the partisanship and bickering of today’s public debate, he still believes in the ability to unite people around a politics of purpose – a politics that puts solving the challenges of everyday Americans ahead of partisan calculation and political gain. In the Illinois State Senate, this meant working with both Democrats and Republicans to help working families get ahead by creating programs like the state Earned Income Tax Credit, which in three years provided over $100 million in tax cuts to families across the state. He also pushed through an expansion of early childhood education, and after a number of inmates on death row were found innocent, Senator Obama worked with law enforcement officials to require the videotaping of interrogations and confessions in all capital cases. In the U.S. Senate, he has focused on tackling the challenges of a globalized, 21st century world with fresh thinking and a politics that no longer settles for the lowest common denominator.
Posted by: kravitz | March 18, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
Pete-You don’t get it do you? Yes, that’s Wright’s words. But Obama claims he never heard and did not know of any of the hateful garbage Wright has been throwing around for thirty years. 30 years. Now Obama has been best friends with Wright for 20 years and he never knew anything until now? Obama who wants to be President never noticed? After 20 years? What was going on around him? Under his nose? All around him? And he never noticed? Just what does it take for something to GET noticed with this guy? Not real swift on the uptake, is he?
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 18, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am
DCVoter, are you nuts to think that Bill Clinton is not on the ticket? Ignorant lots are lulled into voting for Hillary because of Bill…Without Bill, she will be nothing…
And we dont want to see a guy who lied under oath, who was impeached, again in that office. Plus, Hillary is guilty of many crimes, and by your own standards guilty of association. So, she is out as well.
Posted by: Pete | March 18, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
Jackie, Hillary became a lawyer for one of the most repressive employers of our lifetimes – WalMart, while Barack was defending the working class.
And in case you don’t know…
But there is a little-known episode Clinton doesn’t mention in her standard campaign speech in which those two principles collided. In 1975, a 27-year-old Hillary Rodham, acting as a court-appointed attorney, attacked the credibility of a 12-year-old girl in mounting an aggressive defense for an indigent client accused of rape in Arkansas – using her child development background to help the defendant.
Posted by: kravitz | March 18, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
Who cares what the pastor said. Obama is running for president, not the pastor. And if you keep spewing venom, I might as well agree with the pastor that you too deserve some punishment from God almighty. So, cool it my friend. Otherwise go back to sucking, I meant, Clinton coolaid.
Posted by: Pete | March 18, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
Kravitz-We know that one as well. Nevertheless, I’ll ask YOU then, please supply court transcripts of the actual words used in that court. Don’t forget to add standard Obama supporter list that Clinton is a witch, a murderer, a drug dealer, and on and on and on.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 18, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
so sad – they have been actively removing posts all evening … just ignore it
Posted by: DCVoter | March 18, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
that’s as in ‘destroyed a 12 year old little girl and her reputation’ to help a rapist go free. rove is chomping at the bit to pin that tail on hillary’s donkey.
Posted by: kravitz | March 18, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
Pete-What did Obama mean when he wrote: Dreams from My Father, he found solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against his mother’s race.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 18, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
nice story sadstate
Posted by: DCVoter | March 18, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
Here’s the problem….The Democrats are pretty divided to start with on these 2 candidates. Obama is definitely losing ground….believe it or not it’s true.
So if you throw the “baby out with the bathwater” and insist on Obama as the nominee you get McCain as the next president.
The truth is that the Clinton’s have been smeared for years by the same people that used the Kerry swiftboat tactics..
Despite this they have both done incredible things for this country.
Hillary’s resume is in the public and private sector. She and Bill withstood a lot of accusations and charges and millions of dollars of investigations (your tax dollars at work thanks to the Republicans). They did nothing illegal…except Bill lied about his sex life and he was under oath at the time.
So the “new politics” from Obama and a very willing media have given us a different kind of attack machine. Refusing to tell the Rezco story and trying to minimize the Wright story after hiding them for a long time is damaging stuff.
Barack Obama may be a good man. He has had a kind of low key career. He was groomed to be president and avoid any controversy. That’s why his policies are not quiet as brave as Hillaries…ie universal healthcare cannot be acheived without mandates…he is against a freeze in mortgage foreclosures out of fear of a big business backlash..
Look he simply has no experience on a Federal level. He was too busy “running for president” since 2004. Since the campaign started Hillary has only made about 50% of the votes but Obama has made only 28% or so. ANd instead of giving up his committee position so someone could do the job he simply did nothing and kept it for his resume.
Again I wouldn’t take your facts from Obama surrogates talking points. Ex Senator Bradley especially makes up everything he says and Kerry is notorious for having no facts…one of the reason he was not elected by the way.
Oh well. The whole situation is sad. Obama has clay feet and does not walk on water. But keep in mind that he also did not even choose the “change” slogan for his campaign….that came from Devall Patrick’s successful campaign for governor in MA. So far Patrick has been a terrible governor. But he’s been pretty busy helping his buddy run for president.
Whether we send Obama out as the nominee and let McCain trounce him or not I do think he has a quality about him that will make him great someday.
Posted by: Jackie | March 18, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
Read the entire book, and you will know that you will never in your life be as open as that man…It takes guts to write an auto-bio. Will you? Whatever a white person, or a person of color felt or heard, and lived with, what matters is what that person is NOW. Otherwise, you will not forgive your own mother and father…We are human beings, we have weaknesses…Nit-picking and going after destroying that person may be the brutal style of the far right or far-left. But we cannot expect that a good person running for President has to be 100% correct at all times. He may have his blemishes…Obama has rejected the pastor’s comments…Obama does not promote racism. It is sufficient for me, for any right minded, and God-fearing person.
Posted by: Pete | March 18, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
DCVoter…
Thanks for reading the post. Where do we go from here?
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | March 18, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
It’s 3am and Barack is calling Deval to borrow another speach.
Posted by: Marti | March 18, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am
Jackie, you make a hard sell for Hillary. If, after all these 35 yrs of her cooked up experience, still all she gets is a solid 55+ negative rating at all the time, then she cannot win against Republicans. They are afraid of him, they voted in Ohio, Texas in large numbers for Hillary. They want Hillary against McCain,
Posted by: Pete | March 18, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am
Pete a real man is not sexist or threatened by women. I hope you grow into one someday.
Jackie – I used to think Obama had a future but after seeing the red flags that have come from his association with TUCC and Farrakhan, not anymore. The bigger picture combined with Farrakhan’s interview that included him saying Obama “has been groomed” clinched it for me. We cannot make the mistakes of the past and dismiss red flags however outrageous they may seem. The vetting must continue so that we dont make the mistake Germany made by electing an unvetted candidate who can mesmerize with words.
Posted by: DCVoter | March 18, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s pastor for the last 20 years at the Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago’s south side, has a long history of what even Obama’s campaign aides concede is “inflammatory rhetoric,” including the assertion that the United States brought on the 9/11 attacks with its own “terrorism.”
In a campaign appearance earlier this month, Sen. Obama said, “I don’t think my church is actually particularly controversial.” He said Rev. Wright “is like an old uncle who says things I don’t always agree with,” telling a Jewish group that everyone has someone like that in their family.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 18, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
Obama has been groomed to be president.
His friends, al Sharpton, jessie Jackson, Rev. Wright all have been working years on him. oops forgot Rezko.
He will be the puppet, the front man, like bush is. The power will reek beneath.
He will be used to sale Americans anything.
His speaking abilities with the marketing skills his high price crew has.
The power who wants him in has spent some big bucks to do it.
Posted by: seah | March 18, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
DCVoter, did you announce next to your name that you wear skirts..? Don’t whine all the time, just like Hillary. If you cant take the heat, get lost…And meet me in Ohio!!!
Posted by: Pete | March 18, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am
DCVoter,
We can stop this lunicy. How bout it BRO? As John Kerry would say…”shall we”?????
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | March 18, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am
Mara: Did you actually see Rev. Wright’s racist, hate-filled, anti-American rantings? They have been showing them all over the news. If you saw these, do you really think Barack Obama did not know about them? And did not know about his “spiritual mentor’s” messages.
I think Barack Obama should have definitely left this church. Many years ago. Maybe never even should have joined in the first place. These teachings will never unify the country but only divide it. I really believe you need to think this issue through and stop defending him. This issue goes to his judgment, character and integrity.
Posted by: Carly | March 18, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
my question to you all is this=
If sen obama thinks he can unite the races of america and is using that in his speeches as his big trump card
what track record does he have to show for it?
certainly he hasnt been able to do it, or anything close ,in the church he has attended for 20 years!
what makes anyone believe he will do anything with it in the presidential seat??
I am pretty disappointed in this whole thing and as a poor white girl, I havent exactly had anything handed to me as a privileged so called “whitie”.
I was hopeing sen obama had something new to offer but facts are he doesnt. and no matter what some say about it [not being obamas word but rev wrights]
how many of you hang around with people that have views you are vehemently against?? my point exactly
Posted by: BABS | March 18, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
What pastor Wright said is terrible. But look at the congregation. They are waving their arms, clapping, screaming yes yes yes, high fiving. This is the community to which he belongs. People that cheer racist bigoted commentary.This is his church community. So give him the benefit of the doubt (big Benefit) tht he didn’t hear any of these sermons. That he was never aware of any of this hate speech. Well what were these cheering congregants talking about all of the time? How much they love white people? How much they love America? Stop the hypocrisy. I think we all know what these Afrocentrist type churches are all about. That is why they honored Farrakan. They think alike. They hate white America. They blame white America for all of their problems. Then throw Jews, and Hispanics in there who they now hate as well. Obama will never be elected. It will be the biggest landslide since Reagan. The Dems never run out of ways to lose.
Posted by: mia | March 18, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
I will surely join the Church that has 8000 plus church goers and good Xtians. I can live with Rev. Wright’s comments…have heard worse from my Catholic church that tells me for example, “Wearing a Condom is Mortal Sin”. Who cares…Economy and Iraq war sucks, and here we are beating the bush about some pastors crazy sound bites…Obama should stand and fight this controversy…He will make an excellent President.
Posted by: Pete | March 18, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
Alright,
That’s it. I just put my deepest darkest racial sleeves on the line and all I get is more hatred? No dialouge? Natha, Nothing, No Way Jose?
Well all I have to say is that’s “productive”.
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | March 18, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
SadState – we pick up where Clinton has always been. Bill has not stopped his work on civil and human rights. Clinton has not lost her support within the party and I believe she will work to unite the races again. The republicans have worked hard to divide the dems into Identity voters for years. Obama’s strategy was unfortunately ill-advised to solidify the black vote and expand the electorate with young Independents. These are not the party… Michelle began the division with her Black America will wake up and her sexism against Clinton. If Clinton gets the nom, I believe she will unite the party based on the issues that matter to all Americans including the black voters. A special division in her administration to open the dialogue would be key.
Posted by: DCVoter | March 18, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
Oh great another speech.
Posted by: Oh Boy | March 18, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am
Jackie, you wrote: “They (Bill & Hillary Clinton) did nothing illegal…except Bill lied about his sex life and he was under oath at the time.”
Regarding Bill, rape and sexual assault are not legal. Unfortunately the allegations remain just allegations, since apparently the statue of limitations have passed on most if not all these cases.
Regarding Hillary, Kenneth Starr’s Whitewater investigation turned up some interesting stuff, but since they were beyond the scope of his investigation they were never pursued. Many of the allegations are on the internet. Rest assured that should Hillary somehow pull out the nomination, these allegations will see the light of day. And then there is the lawsuit filed by Peter Paul. The news media refuses to mention this case. But it has the potential to bring felony charges against Hillary Clinton for violating election laws during her 2000 campaign for the Senate.
Posted by: James Danley | March 18, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
He said that he would have left the church if he had heard those words repeated. Doesn’t that mean that he heard those words in the first place and that he would leave if he heard them again?
Posted by: Huh? | March 18, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am
DCVoter,
It’s St’s P” day. Let’s go have a brewski together? What say you?
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | March 18, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am
Um, none of this is news. It is public knowledge that has already been addressed by Obama. So, if all this outrage is real and you people can really be so easily and decisively persuaded by specious arguments based strongly on racial prejudice (against blacks) — and by repeated plays of cable “news” soundbites — then I ask you, why should anyone take your opinion seriously? Also, why do you take yourselves so seriously?
Posted by: DRH | March 18, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
Aye! I will have a green margarita and join you if you put green food colorin in yer beer LOL
Posted by: DCVoter | March 18, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
I would like to see Obama lose in the PA primary by at least 30 points! Another big state he can’t win. His speech tomorrow won’t help him a bit.
Posted by: Emily | March 18, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
mia, you posted the same thing twice?
so they retired rev. wright? whats next? will we hear rev wright has had break down and is in therapy!! lol who knows how bad they want obama ,in we may see some crazy stuff in the next few days. I’m waiting on Farrakhan to speak out and say something
about the media attacking a black man or something along those lines. Voters just remember President of the United States is a powerful position to put someone in. we better be right and not just dreaming or in [united america]la la land
being white could be a real problem if vengeace and hatred comes calling
Posted by: babs | March 18, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
Reverend Wright has left the country and is currently in Africa.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 18, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
Not surprising. Other absentees from the news are Michelle, Kennedy, Kerry, Edwards, Richardson, Biden, Gore… hmm
Posted by: DCVoter | March 18, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
Emily I agree a strong showing in PA would be very good for her argument (which I agree with).
Posted by: DCVoter | March 18, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
FL will be settled in the courts or a committee of the DNC.
MI is weighing a new primary.
The voters opinions have shifted to Clinton.
Polls put Clinton as the favorite over McCain if she wins the nom.
The economy has become a top issue again.
It seems Clinton has gained more confidence from the military than McCain so his visit to Iraq has been deemed pivotal for him.
Obama is in deep credibility trouble.
All over the course of 4 days. What will it be like next week?
Posted by: DCVoter | March 18, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
DC VOTER: Well, I definitely think she will have a very strong showing. They haven’t released many polls for this week, but last week, Survey USA (3/11)had Hillary Clinton up by 19 points in PA.
Posted by: Emily | March 18, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am
Babs, maybe Rev Wright is in rehab. Now we are supposed to understand that this is the way all black ministers preach. It is an insult to churches everywhere. It is outrageous. Obama went to this church so he could be accepted by the black community in Chicago because he had big dreams for a career in politics. So he had to prove what a black man he was. Now he is trying to get away from his church of 20 years because it doesn’t fit his new “image” of the everyman. What a complete phony. And he lies so smoothly it is scary. He never knew, never heard, had no idea. GIVE ME A BREAK!
Posted by: mia | March 18, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am
DRH said:
“Um, none of this is news. It is public knowledge that has already been addressed by Obama. So, if all this outrage is real and you people can really be so easily and decisively persuaded by specious arguments based strongly on racial prejudice (against blacks) — and by repeated plays of cable “news” soundbites — then I ask you, why should anyone take your opinion seriously? Also, why do you take yourselves so seriously?”
Why should you take us seriously? Because we are VOTERS. Why do we take ourselves so seriously? Because we are VOTERS.
Take a look at the many hundreds of posts on Oprah.com. They are exactly the same tenor that you find here.
People are VERY angry. They feel hoodwinked by Obama, and not in a nice way.
Posted by: marie | March 18, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
kravitz, regarding your Obama painting. You paint the prettiest picture, but you forgot to mention few facts:
1. Obama went to a Prestige Private School in his earlier years paid for by his maternal grandparents with whom he lived. After attending an Indonesian Muslim school for a while.
2. His mother was living with his stepfather in Indonesia, where he was a manager something to do with… Oil.
3. Obama’s father went to Harvard. Which made Obama a legacy. Not hard to get in then.
4. Obama only worked with African_Americans during his law practice.
5. Most people who share the same viewpoints: attend the same church for 20 years, get married in that church, and bring their children to that church to share those same viewpoints.
6. Admitted that the title of his last book “Audacity of Hope” actually came from a Rev. Jemery Wright sermon.
What again are Obama’s redeeming qualities, to become President of the United States?
Oh, that’s right he is good at: “I did…….Just Kidding! I just borrowed it. Or, I brought this legislation…. You want to know about it …. Well, you see… .. umm, well huh,…. couldn’t …… yes we can. God bless for this nice weather.”
I remember, Obama is GREAT AT: THEY DON’T PLAY FAIR….. FOUL.
Sorry, I forgot.
Posted by: Frank Storm | March 18, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am
I don’t care what pastor of the Church which Obama is going said because the freedom of speech. What I care is the pastor follower, Mr. Obama, doesn’t distant himself from Wright until the news is leak out. Sorry, if you don’t show your patriot to America how can you be the US President? Don’t tell me you never hear about the Wright story because you go to that Church for 20 years and Mr. Wright is in your campaign.
Posted by: stock_craft | March 18, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am
This is from a poster named Cindy. I agree with her.
Has racism been a terrible scar on this country’s past? Of course. No one in their right mind can deny that. But picking at the wound never allows it to heal. It’s been 40 years since Dr. King was murdered. Did he die so that people could wrap themselves up in the world of past hurts rather than trying to make his dream a reality? Until we as a country decide that we are ready to heal, we never will. That goes for all races.
I think the most disheartening thing about all this is that just when we think we as a society are making progress, we find out that some of those we saw as our partners in moving forward are actually moving in reverse.
I feel a great deal of sorrow for my fellow Democrats who voted for Obama thinking that he was going to move this country forward. He chose to associate with Rev. Wright for 20 years, he chose to view him as a mentor and spiritual advisor, and he chose to put him on his campaign up until only a couple of days ago. Hillary didn’t make that happen. The media didn’t make that happen. The Republicans didn’t make that happen. Obama did.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 18, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am
Dogsoldier, you are so right!!
Let me post here a comment on the LaTimes blog; I found it very interesting:
This, too, is part of the script. Remember first that Gerry Ferraro is no racist. Never has been, never will be. She is a political pro (like Ted Kennedy) who sees Sen. Obama, for what he is. A very lucky young man with a spectacular way with words who has been “packaged” for this “moment,”starting with his being fed others legislation for his own as an Illinois Senator, his speech at the 2004 convention, and his support from Ted Kennedy. By his own admission, this “lucky winner” of the DNC first black man as president lottery, has been running for president as soon as he entered the U.S. Senate, running so hard that he can’t even hold a subcommittee hearing. And he’s lucky to be black because it gives him plenty of built in teflon … the media is reluctant to dig and vet this candidate for fear of being called “racist.” He has carried entire states with a solid black vote, taken “proportionally allocated delegates” with a solid black vote, and will have yet another “moment” at the DNC Convention in Denver, which is conveniently being run by a black evangelical preacher. Hollywood could not have done better. Scripted to perfection. If he hits a few snags, he gives explanations (in this case Wright/Rezko) on a Friday evening low news cycle and then gets up on Saturday to invoke RFK and cry out for unity. While you conveniently file Wright/Rezko away, you hear the sweet talkin’ guy and your mind wanders. Hoodwinked. Bamboozled. Since our guy repeatedly, conveniently, missed all these nasty sermons, maybe he was given a “heads up” that the sermon was going to heat up and that he should be a no show. That explanation is as good as any other. Quick, time to invoke RFK again. He’s been dead these 40 years and you can trash him too.
Posted by: Mandelay | March 16, 2008 at 05:29 PM
Posted by: marie | March 18, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am
Marie-Well, I guess we all better prepare ourselves for Obama’s speech on race relations tomorrow. Yet, I find myself unable to believe him no matter what he may say. Twenty years of NOT speaking up before he is being forced to try and explain it all away is more troubling days later for me than when it first broke in the news. It only seems to grow stronger inside my mind. How about you?
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 18, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am
People do make mistake and most mistake can be corrected or it can correct itself but this one never and never can. I will never vote for Obama even if Dem has Obama/Clinton ticket and will consider 3 times before I cast Clinton/Obama ballot also.
Posted by: stock_craft | March 18, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am
Stock_craft-Somehow I don’t think the Obama supporters understand the true extent of the damage this has done to Obama. And by extension the democratic party should Obama go on to win based on previous delegates.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | March 18, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am
marie, excellent analysis, thanks! btw, to you and all the others who are interested in intelligent discourse, check out savagepolitics website (might want to write it down – they delete messages with this info pretty quickly). we have some lively conversations over there, plus there are some outstanding articles, on a wide range of subjects (mostly election at the moment, but other stuff too).
Posted by: so saddened | March 18, 2008, 3:23 am 3:23 am
Audacity of Deceit.
Posted by: dk | March 18, 2008, 3:38 am 3:38 am
dk, LOVE the audacity of deceit title. would make a great website name.
Posted by: so saddened | March 18, 2008, 3:41 am 3:41 am
Oprah left Wrights church in the early 80′s, after only two years. She knew Wright was poison, but Mr. smarty pants, Mr. wise judgment Obama stayed for TWENTY YEARS!!! Those who watch Obama speech on Tuesday, and are re-bamboozled by his deceiving words, have to be total zombies.
Posted by: KDH55 | March 18, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
Wright’s comments to Obama only prove that, despite Obama’s current protests of innocence, he was fully aware of Wright’s penchance for saying inflammatory stuff. Obama will have to stop lying about not agreeing and supporting Wright’s racist views for the last 20 years.
Posted by: Joseph | March 18, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am
Goodbye Obama!look all the ratings his falling. I’d like to meet Mr.Wright to personally thanks for the falling of Mr.Obama. Go Hillary!!!
Posted by: rodel | March 18, 2008, 5:05 am 5:05 am
Racism has been around before the eighteen hundreds.
What is the History of racism in the Church?
What is the History of racism In our American Government?
Who is G. Wallace ? Our American government is not responsible for G. Wallace, however, we can learn form his experience.
Some people hate people for no reason.
America had racism in the past.
America has racism in the present.
We have the power to change racism in the future.
IOWA VOTED FOR CHANGE
EXCELLENT JUDGMENT AGAIN
No person has ownership to words of change.
Posted by: Em | March 18, 2008, 5:07 am 5:07 am
I AM STILL CONFUSED???????
So, it’s okay to accept what Rev. Wright has said because of all the turmoil and racial injustice that he has had to live through?
So, is it okay for me to start screaming racial slurs because of the rape, robbery, car-jacking, purse snataching and murder that my family and friends have been through at the hands of young black men? Okay! I mean, if that is now socially acceptable!!!
When the reporters interviewed members of the congregation of Obama’s church they were ACCEPTING of his racial, anti-white, anti-American statements. How can Obama still justify being a member of this church? HE CAN’T!!!
That’s the CRUX of it! He (Obama), Wright and the members of this church are pissed that “whitey” feels like they can tell him what to do!!!
REVERSE THIS SITUATION: Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would be marching, boycotting and calling upon the black community to do more than just boycott Wal-Mart.
I DON’T CARE IF THESE WERE JUST BLURBS OF HIS SERMON—HE STILL SAID THEM!!!
Posted by: Bonny | March 18, 2008, 5:18 am 5:18 am
WatchOut those SuperD in Red State or District who backed Obama, Mr Wright will come and haunt You ALIVE.
Posted by: Supper D | March 18, 2008, 6:02 am 6:02 am
Notice To Obama’s supporter in RED State GOD DAMN AMERICA will come and GET YOUR JOB
Posted by: Supper D | March 18, 2008, 6:04 am 6:04 am
I was tearing when Speaker Pelosi ascendent to her speakership but she’s also same at any politician does. She should be backing Hillary for making history and proud instead fooling around might be losing her Majority because alot of RedStates (small) none blue color for Dem voted for Obama. That is really Pissed me.
Posted by: Supper D | March 18, 2008, 6:10 am 6:10 am
I supported Obama before it was popular to. I felt hope for the first time in years. I felt the “change wave” crossing the nation and I was elated.
Now I feel so angry and let down. One reason why I liked Obama is that he seemd above the “fray.” I never believed he would be caught is such a HUGE lie.
I will vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination and I pray now that Hillary does, but I don’t think she can.
Obama is a liar. He raised his children around Wright and his church. I can’t imagine raising children where they could be influenced by such an evil, hateful man who hates our country. I don’t know how Obama can look at the cameras and say that he was ignorant for 20 YEARS. If he is that dumb, I don’t want him to be my President anyway because he can’t read people or their motives. Either way, he has lost my passionate support. I am the “other” half of his race that he never talks about.
Now I truly believe that Obama must be a racist on some level, if not a huge level.
Posted by: Catherine | March 18, 2008, 6:23 am 6:23 am
Guilt by association? ABSOLUTELY! We are taught endlessly not to run with the wrong crowd.
So we have Obama who chose to be closely aligned with a screaming, anti-American bigot preacher for 20+ years, and Hillary who never had enough sense to get rid of a cheating, lying, criminal husband. The dems have really frosted the political cookie for us this time. Are these the best decision-makers they have to offer?
Posted by: browserdog | March 18, 2008, 6:23 am 6:23 am
The way some Obama supporters feeling deceived about their leader credibility reminds Forrest Gump movie.
Forrest Gump: My momma always said, “Life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you’re gonna get.”
Drill Sergeant: “Gump! What’s your sole purpose in this army?”
Forrest Gump: “To do whatever you tell me, drill sergeant! ”
Drill Sergeant: “God da** it, Gump! You’re a god da** genius! This is the most outstanding answer I have ever heard.”.
Are his supporters going to be happy with Obama Just telling them what they want to hear?
Posted by: Angel | March 18, 2008, 6:36 am 6:36 am
(Kyle-Anne Shiver is a contributor to American Thinkers)
“Senator Obama’s insistence that he shouldn’t be held accountable for a 20-year, close association with Jeremiah Wright because he was never actually there to hear a single snippet of anti-American, racist diatribe is beginning to look a lot like all those “present” votes in the Illinois legislature. He seems to be saying he wants to have his cake and eat it too. And all I can say is if Barack Obama can’t stand the heat of personal scrutiny, he really ought to do us all a favor and get out of the kitchen.”
Every Dem should read, doesn’t matter which camp you come from.
Posted by: Substance | March 18, 2008, 6:51 am 6:51 am
Racism has been spoken in pastors sermons to several Presidents, President hopeful, Congress and Senators for years. Racism has been around before the eighteen hundreds. It still exist today. Anyone can change from racism of the eighteen hundreds. Racism doesn’t have a skin color. Little girls burned outside a church in Alabama because of racism. Today civil rights is not accepted in some churches because of racism.
People are ready for change, regardless of anger, and racism.
IOWA VOTED FOR CHANGE
EXCELLENT JUDGMENT
We do not have the power to change others. We have the power to control what we say about others.
Americans need economic Change.
America need to produce job prosperity.
America need to improve trade agreements.
Good judgment did not say yes to this war.
America is for change.
Posted by: Em | March 18, 2008, 7:02 am 7:02 am
I listened to Rev. Dr. Calvin Butts, III an Abyssinian Baptist minister say that when referring to Obama’s minister that “black people know how to decipher between radical rhetoric and what is practical application of love from God to everybody.” Now, I have been a Christian a lot of years and I have never heard a white or a black minister and I have been to many black church’s…I have never heard any of them ever spew out hatred towards white people or America.
Church is supposed to not have you feel sorry for yourself, or get you angry about past hurts, and it is not about anything other than “who Jesus is and how we need to make Him our point of reference as to how we need to behave.”
Yet the blacks are saying that it is a black thing and they talk like that because we made them slaves at one time. Well I have been to many synagogues and worshipped with Jews and they were far more persecuted than blacks were, not to minimize what blacks went through, only that I never heard any Jews spewing hatred about anything, only worship towards God.
Now, the blacks are trying to justify the racist behavior of who Obamas pastor and friend really is. Before this came out about his pastor he praised him. Now I don’t believe for one minute that Obama never knew of or heard him talk like this…which means he agrees with it or he would have stopped going there a long time ago and not just when he got political heat from it. He only stopped going when it became a problem for his campaign. Now, obama denies knowing anything only he lied. Because he said on national television that his pastor had told him that it might become a problem for him if he did not distance himself from his pastor some day and obama agreed with him.
I told you all along. He is a con artist. I am tired of blacks making excuses and lying for him just so he will get elected because he is black. If Hillary had gone to a church that talked about whites getting beaten up by blacks or blacks being the leading cause of murders and that is why so many blacks are in jail, she would have been called a racist. See there is a double standard that blacks have set up. We can’t call them hoes, but they can call themselves that. We can’t say anything that they think is a racist remark but they can call us crackers or talk about how we oppressed them. I for one am sick of it. I have always defended blacks, loved them, hung out with them, but I am sick now of the double standard they are imposing on whites.
I tell you this that if Hillary does not win the nomination with the vote so close than the Democratic party will be broken. The Democrats will loose many voters. Hillary will take Obama on as Vice President, but he won’t do the same for her. There will be too many hurt feelings. In spite of what has taken place recently, if Obama does win, I will no longer be a Democrat either.
Not one person has ever been able to answer my question as to how Obama is going to pay for any of his ideas, or what plans he will implement to bring about his plans.
For someone who says he wants to bring about change and unite the parties together, well, he has done nothing but pull everyone a part. First telling everyone in Congress that they are the old way of doing things and that they need to leave is not exactly bringing people together. Talk is cheap!! The bible says you will know the tree by its fruit. Look at obamas fruit…who he hangs out with, who he worships with, it is the opposite of what he says. He is double minded, and a double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
Posted by: JoAnna | March 18, 2008, 7:10 am 7:10 am
Obama’s speech is happening because of one thing only – the truth about his pastor and his church, the truth that Obama has been trying to suppress since before the campaign started, has been exposed. Thankfully, some real reporting has started and his free pass days are over. His speech, just as his panicked rush of interviews last Friday, is a reaction to his failed attempt to keep the ugly racist and anti-American underbelly of people who he has been extremely close to for over 20 years (8,000 church members go a long way in a state senatorial district election) under wraps has failed. If the speech was so important, why did it take days of playing his pastor’s hateful rants on TV to get him to give it? It’s political desperation as he sees his image begin to crumble as he finds himself running against two strong candidates who never give up and are unwavering in their love for country and disdain for racism. His candidacy is based on transcending these race issues and on being different and transparent. Yet he has attempted to hide this from us and has (badly) attempted to brush it away as and then to talk his way out of it. He’s failed us and himself at every turn.
He’s just another highly ambitious politician who’s quite good at reading a scripted speech. No doubt, some adoring admirers will be bamboozled by yet another speech from the speech candidate.
Let’s see him answer questions.
Posted by: Ronnie | March 18, 2008, 7:39 am 7:39 am
In the eighteen hundreds and before no one could justify racism.
No one Can justify racism today.
This is not about white or black. This is about human needs of America.
People in Iowa voted against the past.
We are a United States of America.
READY FOR CHANGE
Posted by: Em | March 18, 2008, 7:42 am 7:42 am
What is real reporting? Is this a way to control others?
Who is Stanley Dunham?
Who is Madelyn Dunham?
What is white and what is black?
What is human?
What is the family resemblance?
Will third culture people help to bring about economic change? (not third world)
Most third culture people are ready for the jobs of the future are you?
Can third culture People put an end to this war?
Posted by: Em | March 18, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am
IS HILLARY PERFECT? NO
IS OBAMA PERFECT? NO
IS McCAIN PERFECT? NO
Economic change
Jobs prosperity
Trade talks
End this war
Gas
Oil
Posted by: Em | March 18, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am
DCVoter, Catherine and all Hillary lovers, this is not Obama’s position, this is not Obama’s idea and this is not Obama’s view of race and the world. Obama will win the primaries and win the White House. Hilary has no idea about economy or national security, she is divisive and old politics. From inevitable to underdog, she has gone down in history as the most incompetant candidate in terms of management style. Where are the tax returns?????????????
Posted by: BKMC | March 18, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am
JoAnna, I certainly appreciate and understand your viewpoint. There is one area, however, in which there seems to be a bit of a disconnect. This is not a criticism. I am just curious. You wrote: “Not one person has ever been able to answer my question as to how Obama is going to pay for any of his ideas,…” Yet you support Sen. Clinton who once stated (I believe it was in October 2007): “I have a million ideas. The country can’t afford them all.”
Posted by: James Danley | March 18, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
I find it very fascinating that the video clips of the Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Jr. have generated such a huge discussion all over the Internet. Here is one individual preaching before his congregation of 8,000 to 10,000 members. Yet where is the discussion of the hundreds if not thousands of professors in our universities and colleges that spread similar hate-speech in their classrooms all across America?
Posted by: James Danley | March 18, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
United States of America…is that how BHO plans to honor support her, by not wearing a flag, or covering his heart during the Star Spangled Banner?
If you want to throw mud, like everyone seems so eager to do with Hillary from her past, lets go to BHO,s history with drugs and alchol.
To all, seen the polls ot of Pennsylvania today? Hillary is on a role, and is a solid win over Mccain.
Lastly, get out your bibles and sunday best, I am sure BHO will be turning his speech into a chorus of “amens” in the audience…hand picked audience.
Posted by: pp | March 18, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am
Geraldine Ferraro is right. She should feel vindicated.
Barack OBAMA is a big fraud, and those who voted for him were duped by his sweet (but empty) words.
and for those people who say this isnt about race, why do you thing Oprah went out of her way to promote his candidacy? and why do you think 90% of black vote for him?
Wake up America. You might have a Manchurian candidate for a President. He’d be worse than W.
Posted by: Simon | March 18, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
If he doesn’t know what Wright believes and stands for the last 20 years, then he is a dumb head and can’t qualify to be an US President. If he know and ignore it, then he is one of the anti Americans and live in United State unfortunately. Either case, he should drop the race and quit the Senate.
Posted by: stock_craft | March 18, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
Everything is falling into place now, his not wearing the Flag, not pledging alliegence, his wife’s comment about not being proud of America!
Obama needs to drop out NOW!! not give another lying speech!! Everybody knows what racism is, it seems that he does not! since he says he did not realize Wright’s comment were that. So Obama do not preach to us!!
The mask has been removed!
Posted by: spock | March 18, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
For all those talking about it all starting in Iowa and people spoke in Iowa about wanting Obama – Well, that was BEFORE they knew about his friendship with Mr. Wright. I’ve spoken to tons of people who want their votes back. Obama is a liar and a politician just trying to spin his racist radical beliefs to win the nomination/presidency. I don’t feel like I even want to watch his upcoming speech. I cannot believe him anymore. He is tarnished in my book. I can forgive him but that does not mean I will vote for him to hold the highest power in the world.
Posted by: truthbtold | March 18, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
If he doesn’t know what Wright believed and stands for the last 20 years, then he is a dumb head and can’t qualify to be an US President. If he knows and ignores it, then he is one of the anti Americans and live in United State and has very HIGH POWER unfortunately. Either case, he should drop the race and quit the Senate. No matter what he says and explains today, it was 20 years late.
Posted by: stock_craft | March 18, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
What sheep the American public are! Do you actually think that these are new revelations? Clinton has been waiting to release these tapes to the media and used Ferraro to give her an excuse to release them. Why do you think she will not release her tax returns? When the media finds out she took millions in kickbacks then you will swing back to Obama’s camp. Media controls everything judgment you make. Sheep!
Posted by: Joel | March 18, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
The media give out information and the people have the right to accept or reject that information.
THANKS FOR REALITY T.V. THE PEOPLE KNOW THE THOUGHTS OF THE MEDIA.
Posted by: Em | March 18, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Can we agree the reason behind Obama taking the subject of race and developed it into a mayor speech was because he got caught? Otherwise this great speech would never occurred. He first denied knowing of Wright’s rhetoric. When he got caught then he gave this speech, but really, what else could he do? But that’s fine; all politicians lie. What I object about Obama is that he allowed his daughters to witness Wright’s demagogue thus perpetuating the cycle, diminishing the very post-racial America he is trying to achieve. That is a huge lack of judgment.
Posted by: Darlene | March 19, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am
Where is Condoleeza Rice?
Posted by: TexasJ | March 19, 2008, 3:13 am 3:13 am
The problem is that religion is much too often used to divide and build hate, and this is misuse and abuse. People should not tolerate it. Falwell also blames the US for AIDS and various preachers have blamed 9/11 on the presence of homosexuals in America, abortion, etc. etc.
Every now and then the Left and the Right reach back so far in their confused logic that they end up holding hands. This is one of those times and can ultimately help both the Right and the Left to wake up by showing all of us how important it is that religion completely avoid slander.
Gandhi advocates separating the person from their deeds and views all people as fundamentally oriented toward goodness. He also advocates a stance of complete personal responsibilty toward the happiness of others—all others. This is a stance that can work. He based his efforts for justice entirely on it. Every time this is used truly great results occur. It’s just extremely difficult to sustain.
It is easier to hurl a mountain into aeons of dust than it is to achieve a transformation of the human heart. Nonetheless this transformation is what we must accomplish. And we must do it ourselves—not by relying on demagogue leaders, elected or otherwise.
Judgment is one degree removed from the 5 senses—a necessary aspect of life but often over-trusted, particarly when aimed toward other human beings. Analytical ability and spiritual awareness are more valuable. And even more valuable yet is a sincere desire for, and actions taken on behalf of, the happiness of others.
Posted by: TexasJ | March 19, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am
The problem is that religion is much too often used to divide and build hate, and this is misuse and abuse. People should not tolerate it. Falwell also blames the US for AIDS and various preachers have blamed 9/11 on the presence of homosexuals in America, abortion, etc. etc.
Every now and then the Left and the Right reach back so far in their confused logic that they end up holding hands. This is one of those times and can ultimately help both the Right and the Left to wake up by showing all of us how important it is that religion completely avoid slander.
Gandhi advocates separating the person from their deeds and views all people as fundamentally oriented toward goodness. He also advocates a stance of complete personal responsibilty toward the happiness of others—all others. This is a stance that can work. He based his efforts for justice entirely on it. Every time this is used truly great results occur. It’s just extremely difficult to sustain.
It is easier to hurl a mountain into aeons of dust than it is to achieve a transformation of the human heart. Nonetheless this transformation is what we must accomplish. And we must do it ourselves—not by relying on demagogue leaders, elected or otherwise.
Judgment is one degree removed from the 5 senses—a necessary aspect of life but often over-trusted, particarly when aimed toward other human beings. Analytical ability and spiritual awareness are more valuable. And even more valuable yet is a sincere desire for, and actions taken on behalf of, the happiness of others.
Posted by: TexasJ | March 19, 2008, 3:54 am 3:54 am