Nader to Clinton: Stay In the Race!

I think Nader should bow out gracelessly.

1. As a life long hardcore democrat I want all states to be heard.
2. Hillary Clinton should stay in the race!
3. Push back the bully bitch Pelosi.
4. Pick the party nominee at the convention.
5. Email the DNC calling for Howard Dean resignation!

Have you noticed it is only people who back Obama that are telling her to get out. They are afraid she is going to win big in PA.
SEND CONTRIBUTIONS TO HILLARY CLINTON! I HAVE.

Tony, even if I don’t like the next democratic nominee, I would not vote for that republican Cyborg. If you want to embarrass our party go ahead, you’ll just extend the war & destroy the economy. You’re a very patriotic American.

Ortega — LOL> Thanks for the patriotism lecture. Sometimes it’s best to stand up for deeper principles. Rather than support a party full of self-righteous hypocrites, I will vote against them. They totally deserve it. Every four years, these morons nominate a loser….except for Clinton twice. Lose lose lose lose. Nothing new. Supporting the losing Dems is not patriotic. It’s suicidal.

Well, one thing about Nader is that he is the real thing in that he is the only non-corporate candidate of the bunch. I think Nader is sincere in saying Hillary should stay in if she so chooses, I think Nader can appreciate the fact that she’s running against Obama, the media and the elitist and the far left of the Democratic party.
I have no doubt Nader would be happy to see some of the Clinton camp cast their vote for him too, so he’s probably doing a little shmoozing. I certainly don’t buy into the idea that Nader would be a spoiler this election. I totally agree with Nader that given today’s economy and the mess we have with Iraq that if this election isn’t a slam dunk for the Democrats, then the Democrats have bigger problems than Nader. But as usual, we can always count on the Democrats to put out as their nominee the least electable of the bunch and we have those two running right now. We have Clinton and her baggage and Obama now with the Wright baggage and with almost zip in foreign policy experience going up against a moderate, experienced McCain. If the Democrats lose this election than they deserve to for the stupid choices they make. I don’t think the problem though is Obama and Clinton but rather I think thing we need to oust the Kennedys, Kerrys, Daschles, Pelosi’s – they’ve too much influence for too long and Pelosi has been a joke.

Harko – everyone knows that politicians lie. Obama said he would take public financing if his opponent won. OOOPs. Obama said that his team never met the Canadians. Oooops. Obama said that he had already disclosed all of his ties to Rezko. Ooops. So, I guess he is just like Nader and the rest. Ooops. No more Obama Lama. Now he’s just a man.

Harko- He hasn’t had too much good to say about Obama either.

Alpaig – excellent analysis. The Dems deserve what they get. Another loss. Another four-years of the GOP. They may be bigots, but they know how to run a party. The Dems are closeted bigots and stink at running a party. No redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Petra – like everyone else in politics — he wants votes. He knows that Clinton has some angry liberals who would rather support him than McCain. I predict he will get a surge – especially in Florida and Michigan. LOL. Too rich to be true! The losing Dems lose again! Better than any soap opera.

Regardless of whether Ralph Nader ever has a realistic chance to be President, I have to give him credit for understanding democracy better than the likes of Pelosi, Richardson, Leahy, or Casey.
The DNC is dominated by political bigots who refuse to take responsibility for the mess they have created. Howard Dean, Donna Brazille, and the rest of the entire gang of entrenched liberals should resign immediately.
Voters in all states, including Michigan and Florida, and their delegates to the convention deserve to be heard. To do any less is to lower the political process of the United States Democratic party to that of a third world country.
The DNC thugs can ratchet up the rhetoric and whine all they want about the woes of the party. Voters deserve and demand the right to choose the candidate.

I love Hillary Clinton, but this is just too funny and crazy. Especially coming from a guy who she didnt want entering the race.

Here’s from a Ralph Nader letter to his supporters (do they exist?) in which we find a reflection on ‘Senator Clinton’ (couldn’t he at least have written ‘dear’) as well. The letter was posted in a forum on the Democratic Underground site.
“If Hillary Clinton is nominated in 2008 by the Democrats to run for president, they will support her.
They will support her even though she is a corporate Democrat who opposes us on the war in Iraq, on real universal health insurance, on the swollen, wasteful military and corporate welfare budgets, on a national living wage – on all the issues we care about.
They will abandon their principles, their constituents, and the lessons of history – and support her.”
What I like so much about all this: Ralph Nader had it WRONG. Hillary will, to his utter amazement, NOT be the nominee. Why is this so funny? Ralph can’t stand to be proven wrong in his analysis of American politics. And therefore Obama has already beaten Nader as well: he has made, by being the Dem insurmountable frontrunner, a fairly big fool of Ralph Nader. Thank you, Barack!

DL – I campaigned against Nader. LOL. Gore is not Obama. So stop the comparison. The Dems deserve to lose this time. Every year they make the dumbest decisions, but then expect reasonable people to back them. Sorry – your parade of horribles is just fear tactics. I care about the Court, the environment, civil rights, and many other progressive issues. The Dems do not care about these things. They just care about the appearance of equality. Demanding a woman to drop out when she is running so well is just a statement of evil to me. Sorry – this party is a bunch of whining hypocrites. McCain will slaughter Obama with or without Nader.

Way to go Tony waste your vote and hand it to the Rep….good goin’

GS: apparently they think we are going to just instantly start worshipping him and chanting “yes we can.” lol…

As a nineteen year old, I wouldn’t vote McCain to spite my party…i just wouldn’t vote.
i don’t want president obama sending me a check to jump start the economy.

Obama is trying his same Chicago tactics..eliminate everyone in a race but himself then have the race handed to him. Go away Obama you smell like a cheater and liar
Hillary ’08!!

The Obama smugness and vile, hateful online community as opened my eyes. If Clinton does not win the nomination I will vote for Nader. He makes a hell of a lot more sense than Obama or McCain. My eyes have been opened to how biased the media really is about everything, print and TV. Nader is more honest than all than candidates combined. I can see now why he has not given up and keeps fighting. I will definitely go for him in the GE if Clinton in not on the ticket.

obamaites keep telling us how horrible we’d be if we vote for mccain. guess what, folks, we think we’d be horrible if we voted for obama. we won’t. 28% is just the beginning.
obama and dean and all the rest think, or pretend to think, that we’ll come around to their side later. they’re wrong. what they’ve done is take lifelong dems and turn them into repub voters this year.
those with a memory know that the same thing happened with reagan. and many, if not most, of the folks who switched in 1980 never came back. some came back for clinton, but will leave again if obama is nominated.
we are tired of having the far left, radical, wing of our party push their nominee on us and expect us to just go along. no more. the end.

I am a loyal democrat of 36 years, never voted republican. however, i am so sickened by the smug,hateful attitudes of the bho supporters, that i will not simply not vote come november, i will vote for mccain to shut bho and supporters up. my dislike for bho far exceeds my ability to stomach mccain for 4 years…then hillary will be back, and bho long gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nader
disenfranchising
ultra liberal democratic nominee
sounds like a REPUBLICAN VICTORY.

It’s better late than never. Finally, Nader spoke as a voters’ advocate.

as predicted, the obamaites are out in full force telling us that we’re terrible people for voting mccain instead of obama. too bad, so sad. we beg to differ.
btw, there’s another article about obama’s plans for raising income taxes, capital gains taxes, social security taxes, etc. those of you who fool yourselves (with lots of help from obama and the dnc, of course) into thinking he can make up for our votes by getting repub votes might want to rethink that. i’ve been a dem all my very long adult life and i’ve NEVER seen large numbers of repubs say oh yeah we like tax increases.

Hi Jenny,
Please do not disappoint, I am truely democrate but I rather vote for McCain over Obama because I could not be a friend of a guy who hates and blames his country. If I vote for Obama, I feel I am stupid, Sorry.
Thank you,

MIguy, i’m no expert either. nor am i in the 1-5% group. and to date i haven’t been a repub. but dean, pelosi, obama, et al are increasing the odds that i will be. re taxes, seems that repubs generally and overwhelmingly vote against tax increasers in presidential elections, regardless of economic category. just my observation….
thanks again for the intelligent, non-name-calling discussion.

@ Thinking
Partial Abortions?
Read what it is before you condemn Hillary for being against it.
I’m pro-choice for women, pro-life if i would be a woman, but i would never support Partial Abortions.

My God… some Hillary supporters (or Reps in disguise) are acting weirder and weirder here.
Folks, if you like it or not, Obama is the front runner in the Dem campaign. Blame the millions who voted for him if you need to blame someone (but why would you?).
Obama is not the front runner because FA and MI don’t count; if you add both states to the total results (even while BO was not on the MI ballot), Obama is STILL the frontruner, leading both in the delegate count and the popular vote.
So what’s the problem? Don’t you accept democracy? Is that it? The majority of Dem voters prefers Obama. Every contest has winners and losers, and yes, Hillary will be a loser in this contest. There’s no one to blame for this, there is no blame. Obama has been able to convince more people than Hillary that he is the best Dem candidate for the Presidency.
That’s all there’s to it, really. A big disappointment no doubt for Hillary supporters, but such is life and that’s how it is.

@so saddened:
I think we both agree that it will be an interesting general election. If I am reading your post correctly, you are pointing out that the premise that Senator Obama will bring republicans “into the fold” is false. I would agree with you there too. Ultimately, the general election will be decided by those Americans who choose to vote. If only half the eligible population is voting, it becomes very difficult to predict who will be the winner. I don’t pay much attention to polls in general, but Senators Obama and Clinton seem to be doing well against Senator McCain in spite of all the bashing they are giving each other.

John,
I am glad we understand one another.
It is deplorable, but it seems that all politicians give lip service Democratic and Republican

my advice for Pennsylvania voters is:
Voter for the candidate, who you think, based on whatever, will repair OUR economy.
your decision will affect all of us and it may also decide if Florida and Michigan have a revote.

@Mary:
Sorry, didn’t get your point at first – I get it now. I agree, it’s up to Senator Clinton and Senator Obama to decide if they want to quit. I suppose if I were running and still thought I had a chance I would keep it going as long as the support was still there. I think a lot of this is driven by the media. It’s pretty clear Senator Clinton will win PA – if it’s a big victory (20 points), then I think that a lot of the people telling her to drop out will feel embarrassed. If it’s fairly close (5 points or less), I think the chorus will grow louder. But I don’t see this ending before the last vote is counted in Puerto Rico.
Senator Obama said today this is like watching a good movie that has gone on for 30 minutes longer than you thought. Actually, to me it’s like the last 30 seconds in a tight basketball game. It’s agonizing and painful and exciting to watch, but the game isn’t over and strange things happen. (this is my 2nd march madness analogy of the night for those keeping score at home..)

Oh and I think John McCain can convince people to stay in Iraq, if he says Bush messed up what is going in Iraq, because McCain is a war hero and if says he has a winning strategy will Americans doubt him?
He can be called a Harry Truman.

The position that Republicans have used to pound Democrats is raising taxes. Or, perhaps the young and easily swayed Obamites do not remember the fate of Dukakis.
Any presidential candidate that promotes a tax increase on an economy that is already in recession is doomed before the general election is ever held.
Stay in the race, Senator Clinton. We cannot afford the tax increases of an Obama regime.

@John:
It’s really become impossible to do a revote in Michigan. No time, no money, no political will here to do so.
Moreover, any primary-style revote would not allow democrats who voted in the GOP primary to revote. And, worse, republicans who didn’t vote in the GOP primary could vote in the revote. It would not come across as fair. Likewise, a caucus could be done (if money was there) but some believe this would favor Senator Obama. Honestly, those of us here aren’t very bothered by this – we knew the rules and we voted. We are not asking other states to revote their elections. So save the money wasted splitting the vote here and use it for the general election; or donate it to the state to pay salaries for firemen and policemen.
I’ve noted on other occasions that Michigan has been a blue state since 1992. Our economy is really in shambles and the party of the sitting president will lose this year. If it were John Kerry, we’d be a red state. With George Bush, it will be a blue state.

Miguy & Others,
What annoys me is that Hillary won the big states, but EVERYONE in the media says, “oh it is no big deal a Democrat always wins those states in November.”
Ya, but would you say the same thing for Hillary if Obama won those states?

Mary – I think you are getting duped by the rightwing on the abortion issue. The Partial Birth law was vetoed by B. Clinton twice and the Supreme Court invalidated a Kansas version of the law that was virtually identical. O’Connor left the Court and was replaced by Alito; Rehnquist by Roberts. The Court upheld the Congressional version that Bush signed in to law. The law bans the partial birth procedure under certain circumstances — not all! The court had previously held that it was unconstitutional because it didn’t have an exception to protect the mother’s health. This is ridiculous and unsafe to women. Anyway, I am pretty sure both Clinton and Obama oppose this legislation as written.

Pelosi doesn’t want Hillary to be the first female president because that will overshadow pelosi’s own history as being the first female speaker of the house.
Pelosi is letting out her claws.

Nader may no longer likeable or credible but he certainly is right regarding this issue. Based on caucuses vs primary elections alone, HRC has a right to question legitimacy of current situation. I caucused.
I replied below to a poster apparently knowing nothing of a caucus chiming in re what Obama had won.
“Friction” posted this questioning statement:
HRC claims she won Texas… but she only won the Primaries… the Caucuses are projected to go to Obama which would result in an overall Delegate advantage to him. The HRC campaign is making voting inconsistency claims in the counting of the Caucus votes to delay the impact of HRC losing Texas. Really … how long does it take to count the Caucus votes when they number one tenth or less of the Primary votes?
Reply:
6000 people are expected to participate in a “convention” tomorrow in El Paso county alone. Do not know the numbers for rest of Tx.
It has been an absolute mess. State Dem. party “quit” counting results weeks ago. will try to sort out things at “conventions”.
“Credentials committee” had so many complaints of irregularities they “gave up”, now call for each faction to question credentials of other at convention.
If one has not participated in a caucus, then they should not try to comment on the validity or non-validity of such.
I participated as an HRC supporter, had to vote, then go back that night to caucus. There is absolutely nothing democratic about a caucus. A caucus defies every premise of “one person – one vote. A caucus is merely and tragically “voter suppression” overseen by the Democratic party, supposedly giving it legitimacy.
I state this as a winner not a loser numbers-wise, my precinct had 15 delegates, we HRC supporters won 10, Obama’s 5. Same pattern throughout the county.
Yet I came away feeling like a loser Democracy wise, because of the process, and those it excludes for one reason or another. I would merely like to vote once, go home, watch the returns, and feel like every vote mattered equally. Mine and yours, regardless of our choices.
Every American should be able to do just that. With no party interference!

Tony & Thinking:
I think Tony what we are trying to say, is that I understand the danger of a mother in delivering a late-term baby if her life is endanger; but there are woman whom have waited to the 4th or 5th month (and even sixth month pregnancy) and want to abort.
These mother’s lives are not endanger, but the mothers do not want these babies to live.
That is the great sadness and terrible procedure for these babies.

Tony,
Please. I hardly see how holding a baby in the birth canal and drilling out it’s head is protecting the mother’s life. I seen 6 of my children being born and trust me two more pushes, and the child is out.
Seems to me that holding the baby in is more of a danger to the mother than giving the birth. It crap as an exuse. It just some more of that political double talk.
Some election we get to choose between folks who would have us blow up half the world and those who kill off our young.
Now their is a problem

Thinking:
Very well said!!!!!!

doc j, now that would be a “dream” ticket!!!

Obama started this divisiveness when he said that not all his supporters will support Clinton should she win the nomination. This was stated out of sheer arrogance and smugness. If this is the new poster boy for the DNC, then good riddance.

@so saddened:
Thank you for the kind words. Good for you for voting and voting your conscience in the fall. Ultimately, whoever wins (Democrat/Republican/Nader) will need our support to tackle the real issues. So, this is politics and everyone fights the good fight, but at the end of the day the country needs to move forward and I hope the people do not become so embittered that we lose sight of the fact that we are really one nation and Americans. When we demonize our politicians we ultimately demonize ourselves. As awful as 9/11 was, there was that moment when I think we all felt as one people. I don’t ever want to see 9/11 again, but those moments afterward convinced me that this country is a great nation and we are more alike than we sometimes admit.

@John: the winner of course! whoever that ends up being! :)
I think we all have a preference, but in the grand scheme of things the differences we try and find in our candidates tend to be trivial in my opinion. The President does not really have as much power as we ascribe; although a shepherd may lead, it is up to the sheep to follow.

Bottom line I think Hillary has more negatives then Obama, ( my personal view); might be from watching her for years, and seeing the shifts and political maneuverings.
Whatever happens I must support the democratic candidate. I hope it to be Obama, but if not then Hillary.
I am really fedup with hearing if not Hillary then McCain.

Mary,
I am not devote, but was raised Catholic. I understand your position, and may God help us both.
I think it is best to be honest in these situations, it is the only way to change things.
Who knows, Mary, this is only the primary, McCain may pull it off anyway.
Probably would not be all that bad, he maybe malleable

MC
You just figuring this stuff out?
The whole Democratic Party is behind it.
You can’t single out one member, they all play the game, split the vote, try different strategies, You thought this whole process was democratic? Ha. The joke is on you. From the primary through the GE Republican and Democrat. the process is the same maximize my support, minimize my opponents.

Not fooled, Thinking! Never been naive about politics.
Just did not know “far-left existed in such numbers and were so organized. Had no idea where they came from, nor how they rose so Quickly. 4 yrs is a short time to build such a devious group.
Search the Duncan book, I think it will surprise anyone. Cetainly “sealed the deal for me”. Do not want to be a part of conspiracies left or right.
Not my style. So I am gone!

MC,
From my point of view Hillary is part of the far left, along with Obama. Hillary has made some speeches that move her to the right some, and voted for some issues that she knew wouldn’t pass but makes her look like she is a centrist
But it is not the case so we have a choice far left or far right, the whole damn political process is out of the hands of the moderates.
This is why we are polarized in this nation. Both Parties are duping us we need to wake up to the fact that we really have no choice in these elections. Well they are correct in one sense, there are stark differences, but do you really like either one?

“When HRC is forced out, I go also. I will gladly leave the Democratic party because it is no longer the party I have known, supported, and loved.
It is now the party of Dean and MoveOn. They will never miss me, but they may miss my vote, donations, and influence. Maybe not!”
Count me in. I will aso leave the Democratic party if Clinton is forced out or does not run for President in the general election.
I am from FL and a month ago, I became a US citizen and immediately registered as a Democrat. Unfortunately the leadership decided that our voices don’t matter. Also, I am disappointed by the liberal left’s tactics against Sen Clinton.

i have heard and seen alot of comments over the last week…..i appreciate them all, but i still love and support hillary….she brings dynamics back to the white hours…thank you

I’m sick of seeing newsclips tellign us how “steamed” Ms. Hesselbeck is over Rev. Wright. How many white elected members of Congress and the Senate over the years sat in the pews of racists preachers and NEVER publicly disowned anything they said!!! Think also of how they courted Robertson and Faldwell, and everyone knows the tissue of THEIR views!!! The hypocrisy in this matter is simply appalling!
A. M

hello eveyone once again….i am so against the race card….and the minority card….guess what, i am a white 50 year old lady grandmother of three, love people, life, and i don’t give a crap what color you ar either. please, let us stand up for the americans that have died for our country…..like my late father who rode the destroyer the uss brinkley bass in the korean war!!!!!!!!!! god bless america!!!!thank god for our veterans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1N

If Obama wins the Democratic presidential nomination, I will vote for McCain too.
There is no way I’m going to vote for a candidate, who admitted that he illegally abused cocaine, went to socialist conferences as a young adult, hung out with Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the Communist Party USA, associated with black power radicals, and followed Racist Pastor Jeramiah Wright for the last 20 years.
The far left is trying to take over the Democratic Party.
They may succeed, but if they do, they should not be surprised when millions of Democrats, like me, vote for John McCain in November.

The majority of the country does not want Obama for President.
Why are the high power democrats pushing for it?
Why are they telling the American People it is what we want, you do not count?
Where they bought, threatened, intimidated or brainwashed?
Will they gain personally or Carree r wise from it?
The DNC was given advance notice of the State of Florida changing their voting day. No excuse for not accepting it and adjusting to it. Unless they knew their candidate would not win there. So they refuse to accept the citizens of Florida’s votes.
Looking more and more Like a fixed Election.
Funny how public servants, who were voted in by the people, to be working for the people. Can careless about the people.
Go Hillary
God Bless America
Love it or leave it
A vote against Obama is a vote for America.

When are we going to see a preoccupation with Rev. Magee and the Catholic vote? Wlll McCain alienate or lose that vote through THAT association?

It’s a sad day in America – but a chance for an emerging viable Independent Party. Just as the far-right religious faction has taken over the Republican party, we are now seeing the far-left liberal faction take over the Democratic party. They’re so eager to prove their sociological enlightenment by electing a black candidate that they’ve lost all sense of reason. So be it.
If Hillary doesn’t get the nomination, then I want her to run again in 2012 as an Independent on a Clinton/Edwards ticket. They can just go ahead and tell us from the very beginning that they’re a team who’s reaching out to those middle-of-the-roaders who have been disenfranchised by both parties. They can run on fiscal responsibility, safe and sane foreign policy, and health care as a right of every American.

Go on Dean, Pelosi, and all the “OBAMA ZOMBIES” keep pushing the issue for Hillary to drop out! Go on , get us pissed off! I think I will make another contribution to Hillary today,and again next week, and so on. Nader’s a little flakey but I admire his love for his country and its constitution, no one can dispute that!

Obama is a speech
His Ideas, ideologies, and religious beliefs, personal flaws are something that will deter him making a good President.
He is a pacifist, who wants to sweet talk the world. Our Enemies are cheering for him to win. It will make their goals easier.
He is indebted to his church. He owes them. His loyalty and allegiance is to his church and Africa. Evident by his actions, deeds and what he says. (if they paid for his schooling he is indebted forever to them)
Obama is the front man, He is to use his power with words and speeches. That is all he has or knows. Who is the power behind him? Who will be running the country while he tries to talk the American people into things? His church? the black leaders? The Mob?
The Democrat party is destroying itself, by pushing him on to the American People. Do they want to destroy the country also? They must, because the people do not want obama.
Mr Obama has never ever taken responsibility for any of his actions, deeds or spoken words or lies. Never, not once. He has, cast blame, demanded apologizes, pointed fingers, mislead, Slung mud, and constantly pushing people, transferring blame, and accused others of things. That is the mainstay of his campaign.
Go Obama, take Michelle, rev wright and your crooked friends with you. We do not need you or want you as our president.
God Bless America
Love it or leave it
A Vote Against Obama is a Vote for America

Oh now Clinton is a moderate? Since when? The Democratic Party has been a far left wing party since the 70′s as the Republican Party has been far right.
There is no a hairsbreath of differance between Hillary and Obama
Most of you posters are Republicans anyway

dl,
There is 102,000 + votes seperating them that is not a majority of the country. Add to that some states haven’t voted yet.

Senator Clinton has lots of baggageand that is why most people don’t like her…
It is not all right wing conspiracy.
It’s not people not accepting a strong woman… it is a woman with lists of scandals…whom most of the country does not trust (and no matter what you all say…for good reason)…
You all have just blinded yourself with your only “hope” for the past 7 years because you were comparing it to Bush… The Clintons are not “the bar” to measure against and neither is GW.
#1 attribute of a President should be character.
#1 reason a President doesn’t get elected …because people don’t like them and/or trust them.
She can’t win …she might be able to win the nomination but she has to destroy the party … and you people think that is worth it?
If that was the case you get what you deserve.

dem999
Sen. Clinton wanted to keep them out too.
What seems worse…when a group of state dems want to put their state ahead of the party…someone who says I understand the rules I will not count their votes for the sake of party unity…and then stands by what he said.
or
when a group of state dems want to put their state ahead of the party…someone who says I understand the rules I will not count their votes for the sake of party unity…but then when they are losing goes all over the airwaves proclaiming to count their votes and be fighting for the voter …when she just cares about the votes… everyone knows she would not be fighting for them if she was winning.
…and now has manipulated the situation so voters (even in those states believe)…there can’t be a fair election.
Everyone has seen the margins she won in those states existed in every state until they changed when people got to meet Obama in their state…he either passed her or got the margin to under 5% in most cases.
So she is the candidate of self-serving disengenuousness.
and obviously it has made an ex-volunteer like myself like her that much less… her campaign is not about the greatness of our country and our constitution… it is about her own political needs.

J
Her skeletons have not all been uncovered …lots of peeks…but go look them up…most of them were never resolved…just another one poked up and took focus off the one before.
and if they have been resolved it was by fine, or disbarrment, or a death of a witness, or a cleaned up office after a suicide…or her brother giving back the 400k for the pardons with no investigation becasue Bill was out of office or…the republicans found and focused on Bill’s lie to remove the president and didn’t focus on the others.. …or a censure or
you can go on and on…
It’s like the brother or sister that everyone keeps attacking and we keep defending as more crimes are committed.

and remember if Tsongas and/or Kerrey stayed and fought like Hillary is fighting for this nomination… Bill would have still gotten the nomination and then lost the Presidency in 92.

J
that is not true…
the clintons have been fined, disbarred, and everything else under the sun…
lots of money…lots of power…lots of attorneys…
and the cloak of the federal government to hide under.
I am not saying lies…look it up
They have been investigated…a lot…but look at the lists of thingas they have been investigated for…WHO has lists that long…name me one other public official…
with such a wide array of accusation, caught in lies, fined, disbarred, mysterious windfalls of cash…had to return moneys (she was so involved with the Presidency but she doesn’t know anything about why 2 men were pardoned that her brother received 400k dollars for?…) praising a dem fundraiser… not releasing the information related to any of the questions about who her backers are…
These aren’t lies …or spin…just because for years we as good dems were not allowed to speak of them.

Okay it seems this race to the White House might be “fixed”. With only a spread of some 100,000 votes and Hillary Clinton will be in the lead after Pennsylvania why is some leaders urging her to leave the race. Why aren’t they urging Obama to leave the race. She will have more of the popular vote shortly. Is it that this nation cannot have a WOMAN as President? Is that the real issue and not RACE?

dl: Unlike Obama Clintons like McCain love their country! They did not start loving america because it is politically convenient!

dl,
I should care why? I am voting for her regardless of your rants.

Hillary has every Wright to stay in the race!

National polls show Obama 50% to Hillary 42%. Maybe that’s why they want her to step aside, ya think

I hope she stays in and gets soundly defeated. That way maybe the Clintons will get out of our faces for a few years. Why don’t they just start a reality show so the public would no longer have to pay for it.

Obama skeletons have not all been uncovered either. If we had know just a few things about obama that are out now he would not be winning now. the word went out sometime ago-to black people don’t say anything that might hurt the brother’ chance. I wish to supporters of Obama would spend their time attacking hillary with how much better he is on the issues-rather than all that old and sometimes cooked up stuff. but you know why they cannot use the issues (which is all that should matter) against her. because she is smarter and has solutions for this country. and he only copies her. He couldn’t ever come up with an original answer to her 3am ad. they have just copied her. If obama gets the nomination we the democrates are going to pay for it in nov. If he wins the white house-the american people will suffer. He does not have a clue on how to run this country. and the people backing him are counting on being able to run the country through him Kerry,dean,leahy,bradley,richardson and others could not win the white house our right-so they are going to try through him. and the sad thing in he is so not in the know about what to do-he will need to rely on them. It is going to be a mess.

sadstate of affairs
rasmussen you should know doesn’t do phone polling…and they are widely considered not the gold dtandard because of that…
that is why the only place you ever see them interviewed on…is Fox News.
so the clintons keep using the main pollster of FoxNews… that alone has to tell you something…about your own argument.

dl,
You aren’t stating facts, its BS that’s been investigated over and over and it’s old news. Get over your hatred of Clinton. I care about this country and the party which is why I am not supporting Obama.
I want somebody who I know loves this country and will work hard for solutions to our problems. Obama is nothing but a speechmaker with no real plans to do anything he has promised. If you look most of his stuff is either from Hillary or Edwards.
Maybe if the media would do their jobs and dig into Obama’s past people would wake up!

dl: He had no problem throwing his white gradmother under the bus for Wright! But you failed to answer by rebuttal about the right to vote! I quess you answer what you want and ignore that which you want! That is what Mr. Obama does!

…and Russel
Obama is not saying stop this election …
he is stuck now that the Clintons have manipulated this image of them fighting for the voters…when she is really just fighting for the votes.

Unfortunately people like dl can’t respond to people, instead they just post things to bash the Clintons. Now you see why Obama has people hoodwinked, just look at the type of people he attracts.

and J
I think I responded to every thing you have said… if I missed something tell me what it is?
I asked quite a few things and stated a few things that you all can’t respond to.
so now you are like my dad… if I throw out facts that aren’t what you want …you say nasty things about me.
C’mon.

unfortunately gotta go.
but Obama did not want to hurt the soldiers…that has always been his priority.

No dl,
You went on one of your rants about the Clintons and how awful they are. You are a true Obamabot. Doesn’t it bother you that you have no idea what is in this man’s background? Doesn’t it bother you to vote for somebody just because they give pretty speeches? I won’t put my country into the hands of somebody I know nothing about.

This must make Hillary feel good now, she is supported by the fruit cake Nader.

Nader says it like it is. That is why I like the guy. He speaks truth much like Kucinich on the left and Ron Paul on the right. Hillary has every right to stay in and affect the discourse on issues.

tony – I don’t support Obama, Clinton or McCain, but I must disagree with your last posting. I hope Obama opposed the war because he knew much like Kucinich and Ron Paul along with some others that the war was a complete waste of lives and money. A war which has ruined our already tarnished image and destabilized the middle east. A war that has given Al-Qaeda a new foothold and has given Iran further influence. I hope Obama had this insight. Michael Scheuer who headed the Bin Laden unit has been quoted as saying that only Ron Paul understood the dangers, but I do believe Obama probably had some of this foresight as well.

let’s not forget that it was Obama who refused to be run together as president/vice president with Clinton. Obama apparently think it was entirely ok for him to put his and his supporters’ interests/ambitions before his party’s.
Democrats should just blame Obama if they lose the election in November since Obama was unwilling to unite his party.

I think the upcoming election will be a good time for Nader and the Green Party to gain momentum. Afterall, if the polling statistics are any indicator with 18% of Obama and 28% of Clinton supporters not voting democratic in the presidential election, then he may catch record breaking Green Party votes. So of course, it’s to his advantage to encourage Clinton to stay in the race. The more divisive and lengthy the race remains, the more votes he gets.

Some one once commented that Obama’s supporters were losers of previous elections themselves; well Nader is a LOSER and a SPOILER. Yes he difinitely knows something about being a spoiler,therefore misery loves company. He would give this kind of advice.
Obama 08 !

dl The soldiers weren’t Obama’s priority once he got into the Senate. He said nothing about Iraq on the Senate floor about Iraq until he decided to run for President. He voted to undconditionally fund this was everytime along with Clinton and before you say “he needed to support troops”- voting to confirm Rice and Casey has nothing to do with supporting the troops- in fact a vote against would have been more about supporting the troops

alpaig – You are correct on the voting. It is very difficult to stand against the rest. Few politicians can do it because they politically calculate everything instead of doing what is right.

Look at all the Clinton professional bloggers in here.

NORMAL : BOTH NADER and CLINTON are just SPOILERS. No chance to win but weaken the Democrat front runner.

Vanessa if I remember correctly the majority of that poll was black voters. They can make a poll say or do anything they want. Depends on who they want the public to think is ahead. Polls are hogwash.

C Good posted:
“I’m still ****** about all the racial crap being stirred again.”
Me too. I will never get over it.

“Professor” Obama should stop lying and misleading the voters on race and stop protecting Wright…..one doesnt expect an American President to sympathize with Muslim extremism over Israel and believe in theology that preaches that Christ is a Black man by ethnicity….

Personally, I think Clinton should stay in the race because it shows how tough she really is. The calls that she is getting to quit the race are only from Obama supporters. If the situation was switched around and Clinton was the one who was in the delegate lead, would there be more pressure put on Obama to quit the race? Yes, there probably would be and most of those calls would be from Clinton supporters. The real question is: would Obama have the guts to keep going even after taking the intense pressure from these supporters, or would he drag this race until the actual convention in the summer?

no more come backs for hillary, she is done this time!

To C GOOD,
You have nailed the truth in all of this. Clinton should stay in the race through April 23, so it is undoubtedly clear that she lost based on her own decisions. Hillary stay in the RACE! Keep you game going just long enough to realize once and for all the C game is over.
(The sad part in all of this and maybe it is exactly what was bound to happen, is that the Clintons will finally have to come to terms with the love lost, end of acceptance between they and their finally-got-smart-to-their-game supporters and politcal peers.)
Obama/Edwards ’08

The only people calling on her to quit are Obama supporters. “Bite me” should be her response. Put it in the language of the common, classless bigots they are. Maybe they will get the message.

Hillary needs to stay. the majority of the people want her for the nominee for President of the Democratic party.
The DNC Playing God and Political fixer is destroying the party. Denying the people their right to vote who they want is a travesty to democracy.
The DNC were given amble warning of the State of Florida and Michigan changing their voting days. Plenty of time to adjust, and accept. Instead they Had to Play God and throw their weight around. Strange for those, who are suppose to be working for the people. They showed their true colors, Greedy power mongers, who do not care about the right to vote, or the US Citizens.
The DNC and high power democrats, were they paid off? threatened? Intimidated? What? What will they gain? They sucking up or are they getting more out of it?
The DNC and the high power democrats are the ones tearing the party apart, and trying to destroy it. When they Deny the voters the right to vote. When they Bully and try to intimidate and pressure the candidates (one candidate). They have shown their true colors, They are Greedy, power mongers who careless about the American voters. evident by their actions, deeds and what they say. Shame on all of them.
The Majority of Democrats do not want Obama, but the DNC and high power democrats, continue to force feed him on us. They tell some us our votes do not count. Want others not to vote, or vote for someone they do not not want. They should step down, they should give up their positions. They are giving democracy a bad name. and destroying the democratic party. Maybe that is their goal.
The world is watching and laughing. The Republicans just shake their head in disbelief. The American people are the ones getting denied their right to vote, watching someone getting shoved at us we don’t want as president, and the DNC thinking they are Gods.
We the people want Hillary,

Thank you, Ralph Nader! I have respect for you for your honesty and integrity.
Go Hillary ’08
Stay in the race. The people of America needs to have their voides heard.
Iraq_vet

It just occurred to me that Patrick Leahy could be a male chauvinist. May be he is uanbel to digest to see a woman ascend the presidency.

Thank you, Mr. Nader. I hope Clinton stays in until the end, which I hope will be Obama’s end. I will never vote for him. I’ve never voted Republican in my life, but I will in November if that corrupt, racist fraud Obama is the Democratic nominee. Pay attention, Democratic Party. If it’s not Clinton, then it’s McCain, and I know I’m not the only voter who believes this.

Thank you Mr.Nader. I will NEVER, I mean from the bottom of my heart, NEVER, vote Barack Hussein. Clinton, stay in the race! People I know who support Hillary will Never vote Hussein Obama. They are voting for McCain if Clinton loses.

Hillary, You are going to be my president in 2009, there is no dropping out for you. That is stinking thinking.
I and all others who are over 81 should vote for you as well as those over 18.

YEAH OBAMA SEEMS TO CLAIM HE WAS OPPOSED TO THE WAR AND NEVER VOTED TO GO INTO IRAQ! HELLO! THIS LIAR OBAMA OFF COURSE NEVER VOTED TO GO TO WAR IN IRAQ, HE WAS NOT A U.S. SENATOR UNTIL 2004, THE U.S. WENT INTO IRAQ DURING 2003. YEAH HE SAID HIS OPPOSED TO THE WAR, MAYBE IF EVERYTHING WENT CORRECTLY IN IRAQ MAYBE OBAMA MAY BE SAYING HE WAS FOR THE WAR….OBAMA IS THE BIGGEST HYPOCRIT AND LIAR OF ALL TIMES…

Howdy Mr. Nader,
Thank you for your understanding of how America is supposed to work. Though you are running for President yourself, I am a strong advocate of a Clinton / Nader democratic/independent ticket for President and Vice President. I believe as Vice President you can continue the tradition started by Vice President Cheney of being a true working Vice President and contribute a great deal to our country in that capacity. I also believe that if you and Senator Clinton team up now before the remainder of the democratic primaries take place, your team will differentiate yourselves as the clear favorite of independents and all of whom want to see a real change take place.
Prior to your announcement that you were running for President I sent an e-mail to Senator Clinton’s campaign urging her to go to you and make an agreement to join forces for the betterment of our country. I am now urging you to go to her and open a dialog regarding the possibility of joining forces now to ensure your joint victory in November.
Sincerely,
American Vet

Hillary will NOT drop out because WE don’t want her to.. Face it Obama, more and more people dislike you! The more we know about you, the more there is NOT to like. No wonder you were so successful in Chicago type politics, it’s your nature and you seem to attract like “bully” minds, yet another reason to NEVER vote for you. Go Hillary.

This is hillarious. My fantasy is that Hillary will embrace Nader’s political advice and push Gore past the tipping point. It would be dumb but in character.

It’s not surprising, a commentary from Ralph Nader asking Clinton to stay in the race. He’s making an Independent run for the Presidency this fall. He stands to fare better if she is the Democratic nominee.

Countallthevotes writes, “Vanessa, let us say for the sake of argument that Obama does get the nomination. I still will not support him. I honestly cannot forget Rev. Wright’s racist/ethnic-slurring/anti-American/profane rantings. Obama embraced the man as his mentor for over 20 years. These paranoid rants are indelibly etched in my mind.”
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All I can say to that kind of logic is WOW! When I read comments like that the first thing I do is question the intellect of the person making them. The U.S. economy is bordering on a recession. We’re spending billions of dollars on a war with no attainable goal. Is this the “hot topic” that gets you so riled up you literally ignore the things that are affecting your DAILY lives? I’m sorry but that has to be one of the silliest things I’ve read on this board to date. America owes everybody money, the economy is tanking and you’re worried about the comments of a Black preacher on the south side of Chicago? If ever there was an attempt at he social elites to manipulate the so-called lower ladder of society this is definitely it. I haven’t decided which candidate will get my vote but I’ll you this…My vote SURELY won’t be obtained by giving me simple-minded “hot” topics in an effort to get me to ignore the fact that you really don’t have a legitimate plan of action to get us out of this mess we’re currently in….

A Hillary Clinton / John Edwards combination would be unbeatable….. !!!!!

Despite the Obama campaign’s aggressive spin and pressure, the RULES require super delegates to exercise their best independent judgment, and that is what they will do. Even Sen. Obama’s top strategist agrees they should. If not, then why don’t prominent Obama endorsers like Senators Kerry (MA) and Kennedy (MA), and Governors Patrick (MA), Napolitano (AZ) and Richardson (NM) follow the will of their constituents and switch their support to Hillary? After all, she won their states. And if this is truly about the “will of the people,” then Sen. Obama’s short-sighted tactic to run out the clock on a revote in Florida and Michigan accomplishes exactly two things: it disenfranchises Florida and Michigan’s voters; and it hurts Democrats in a general election. Apparently, for the Obama campaign, the “will of the people” is just words.

Ryan Jones writes:
“… Hillary is more of a divisive figure.”

If Obama was not fighting the Michigan and Florida seating, Clinton would for sure win this race. The Democratic party needs to get their stuff together so everyone’s vote can count.
Rock the Vote!!!
Clinton –2008!!

Just one minute
I’m not a conspiracy theorist. I’m just curious. I do enjoy the occasional Ludlum, Forsyth and well, most tension filled political and conspiracy novels. My curiosity though, does not stem from the pages of a novel. It comes from the current stand or atmosphere in Washington. I especially got extremely angry when Patrick Lehay asked Hilary Clinton to step aside because she was hurting Barack Obama. My first thought was, this fellows’ got some nerve. There is nothing that Hilary has done to hurt Barack that he himself has not done. Why is it that the men in Washington would rather settle for a lame wounded horse in a major race rather than sent in a battle tested, battle ready, strong and very competitive Amazon? Why are these men, joined by these so called Conservative Democratic Women, so threatened by Hilary Clinton that they are trying to force her out of the race? Are they so jealous that a second Clinton is going to be president that they can not stand it? Is Patrick Lehay an ignoramus? Why is he treating her like she is no more than a nuisance? How dare he? Does Patrick know something that he thinks the rest of us are ignorant to? Does he think that we all listen to the likes of MSNBC, CNN and ABC? Have they bought into their own delusion? “Give it up already?” I wonder where he got the nerve from.
Why are they so afraid of Hilary Clinton? Do they see in her an unimaginable potential that exceeds all of their capabilities? Could this be the only woman of our time with all of the real potential to be president and are we going to let the Washington bullies silence her? I hope not.
My only conclusion is that there is a conspiracy; but not the kind you think. Is it possible that knowing that Barack Obama has not a chance in Hell of defeating John McCain, that they would much rather have McCain in the Whitehouse than a Hilary Clinton??? I’m curious, is Barack Obama a part of this conspiracy or is he so brilliantly dumb that these simple facts escape him? Is the male dominated press in on this conspiracy? Why are the women in the press intimidated by these oppressors? Very few have dared to ask challenging questions of Obama while they join in with the male dominated press corp to discredit and humiliate Hilary Clinton. Do we not want to progress pass the 1800s? I thought we were in the 21st Century? Are men still so afraid of women in power that they would do anything to destroy and discredit them? I know that I have a lot of “Whys”. I would hope that by the end of this primary season, we would come close to figuring out what Patrick and his gang is hiding and what they are holding on to. I hope though, and sincerely so, that it would not be too late.

Thank you for your understanding of how America is supposed to work. Though you are running for President yourself, I am a strong advocate of a Clinton / Nader democratic/independent ticket for President and Vice President. I believe as Vice President you can continue the tradition started by Vice President Cheney of being a true working Vice President and contribute a great deal to our country in that capacity. I also believe that if you and Senator Clinton team up now before the remainder of the democratic primaries take place, your team will differentiate yourselves as the clear favorite of independents and all of whom want to see a real change take place.
Prior to your announcement that you were running for President I sent an e-mail to Senator Clinton’s campaign urging her to go to you and make an agreement to join forces for the betterment of our country. I am now urging you to go to her and open a dialog regarding the possibility of joining forces now to ensure your joint victory in November.

James writes, “If Obama was not fighting the Michigan and Florida seating, Clinton would for sure win this race. The Democratic party needs to get their stuff together so everyone’s vote can count.”
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This is comical. Nothing like using the biases of certain people against them. First and foremost it’s an absolute lie to say Obama is against a “re-do” in Michigan and Florida by equating his “acceptance” of the rules of the Democratic Party. If the Democratic Party decides to do it all again tomorrow you won’t see him disagreeing with it. One more thing…What is up with this whole every vote count nonsense? I guess it boils down to how you “equate” things. Some of you folks, as sad as it is, equate having someone tell you it’s mathematically impossible for Hillary to win the nomination with depriving you of the right to vote. No offense but you really don’t need a college degree to see what’s really being said if your objectivity hasn’t been tainted by personal inadequacy.

Sorry , in one segment “one” should read “won”. —-”I” should have an n following it …plus other typos.
Fingers have a hard time following my thoughts. Again, I apologize for any failures of coherancy or typing.

Howard Dean does not want to change the rules on MI and FL because Hillary would catch or pass Obama. He endorsed Obama monthes ago and Pelosi is for Obama but she is stay tight lipped. Dean should never have been Chairman of the DNC because he is hard boiled. If it benefits him then he would change the rules but since it benefited Hillary he won’t. They had to make those rules for a purpose however New Hampshire changed their primary date and did not get penalized. That is because Dean thought Obama was going to win that state and he got fooled.

Who cares if she bows out now or later.
The more money she wastes now will be less to use later! McCain will beat either Obama (racist pastor,etc.) or
Clinton(liar, nutcase) either way. They
spent too much money tearing each other down! The Republican machine wont have to dig very hard to find dirt; it has already been exposed by the Democrats!
This was the year the election would have been handed to them and they blew it. It really started with Howard Dean(remember the meltdown)eeeyyyaaahhhh…what a pitiful excuse for a DNC chairman. eeeyyyaaahhhh!! McCain ’08

Thanks John: I agree with you words that:
Obama supporters tirelessly state that HRC cannot win based on the math.
Yet they never state that NEITHER CAN OBAMA.
Based on the current “knowns”, though Obama leads, The above 2 statements are absolutely true. It will take quite a while and much more voting, along with much more mathematical recalculation to ever make a definitive statement in this matter.
Many “unknowns” are actually waiting to become “knowns” only when the process is complete. Then and only then can any statement regarding who can win have factual merit.
And ,at that point it will be a “case of who one”, not a hypothetical of “who can or cannot”!
We are all quilty of often playing such silly games re hypotheticals, “wishing” they were fact, due to our personal “wishes”.
I the case of constantly saying HRC cannot mathematically win. The Obama folks are the silly ones.

I can tell you that many people wish they had their vote back from Obama. I an African American and will never vote for Obama….Iwpersonally will vote for McCain over Obama……Hillary should stay in the race until its over…What a conspiracy!..If HRC isn’t the nominee we should write in Hillary…..

Hillary, stay in the race.
Leahy has not right to tell her to quit. This is not a “good” lesson to teach our kids. Quit or give up because you are under pressure. We always tell our kids to follow their goals. Let people vote. I don’t know about Washington, but, I don’t think they like to listen to us. There are still other states that people want to vote for Hillary.
Hang in there, Hillary, we are behind you. This is America. If Mr. Leahy does not like it, he should quit!!!

whoever thinks voting for obama will save their pocketbook is highly mistaken.
if you dont want to be heavly taxed you will be smart and vote for a republican, or moderate democrat.
obamas plans for giving 300 dollars to people here, and tax deducting those who make 100,000 a year is crazy. He needs to wake up and the smell the coffee. Poeple in New York who make over 100,000 a year are lower-middle class, yet he wont give them a break? Give me a break!

fedup, i’m with you – will never vote for obama, not this year, not in the future, not for president, not for vice president, not for dogcatcher.

Ralph Nader may not be diplomatic but he has a resume for making real change happen a mile long — not hyperbole like Jr. Senator Obama.
Good for him recgnizing that Obama and all the news rooting on for Clinton to drop out is motivated by Cowardice and fear.
Hillary is the only Democrat for President with Courage, patience and steafastness.
Go HIllary — You will win! Obama is a light weight with an Old Boy network of has been backing him and swift boating you. People are onto Obama’s double talk and Good Cop Bad Cop Games.

I hope and pray Hillary Clinton remains in the race. I think it’s ludicrous that certain Dems are trying to convince her otherwise. The Dems best hope Clinton wins the nomination ’cause this is one Dem who’ll be voting Republican if Obama wins the nomination. There’s just NO WAY I’m going to vote for Obama!!

Leahy and Dean would never get elected in middle America or the South. Only in a far left state like Vermont. and don’t believe these polls that popped up all of a sudden. Very fishy. They do not relfect the reality we hear in our communities. remember Dean said things were being done to end the nomination process.

You folks who act like Obama is entitled to the presidency (as if it’s preordained, a second coming!!)and everyone else move out of the way – seem to have no clue about how the democratic process is supposed to work.

Who ever heard in 2008 of nominating for the presidency some guy who hasn’t even held a national office for one full term? His problems have only begun to surface. If Governor Blagojevich is brought down here in Illinois because of his Rezko ties, Obama will be right behind him. Only in America, where the masses are mesmerized by American Idols and Terminators can we expect to see such a fiasco. Latte liberals and those blacks voting without engaging a thought process do not represent middle America, and therefore don’t represent the democratic party.
Let’s count all the states, including Michigan and Florida, and then see where we’re at. Let’s also take another look at some of the shenanigans that went on at the caucuses and reconsider counting those results; all caucus states should re vote in primaries. Let’s also see how many lawsuits there are against the media for their blatant interference in this entire process. And what about Oprah? I hope she didn’t exceed her allowed contribution amount!
Obama needs to step down, try to fulfill his senate term, which is why we sent him to D.C., and show us he has the maturity, patience, perseverance and work ethic to earn – not buy and cajole – his way to the top.

Typical men saying “honey you need to stop, people will start calling you bad names” are sooooo afraid if Hillary Clinton it makes them red faced mad. Nothin’ worse than a woman a man can’t control. Hillary’s been called every name in the book, taken heat from unlikely sources, betrayed by friends and allis and she just keeps on. Those are just the qualities in the leader of the free world we need.

The issue of Rezko will be big one for attack in November. The money Obama takes from lobbyists and then lies about are ridiculous. He knew about Rezko. Obama was “friendly” enough with him to take him to view his new million dollar plus house with him. Then what about the money from the nuclear industry re: leaks after he changed his input in the Senate?

If the Obama supporters were confident that he is going to win they would not be calling for Hillary to get out. They would ignore her and continue campaigning they way McCain handled Huckabee. The fact is Hillary will win big in Pennsylvania and will win the majority of the remaining states. Depending on what negatives come forth on Obama and momentum, she could even win ALL remaining states. One Obama supporter on meet the press said the reason Hillary should bow out was not because she was weak but because she was strong and is expected to finish strong in the remaining elections. Another commentator said she may have only a 5% or 10% chance now but after everyone has voted and with a strong showing her chances will go up! Hang in there Hillary we will not give up!!

Doctorate writes, “Who ever heard in 2008 of nominating for the presidency some guy who hasn’t even held a national office for one full term?”
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First question. A doctorate in WHAT? I only ask because I’m sure you know Abraham Lincoln was a STATE legistlator (Illinois ironically) for (8) years. Don’t get angry. Just say THANKS for being ENLIGHTENED.

Firefighter writes, “If the Obama supporters were confident that he is going to win they would not be calling for Hillary to get out.”
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It seems you’re confused. Obama HASN’T asked or even SUGGESTED Hillary quit. Like a lot of folks you have MISTAKENLY (which is quite typical) equated the suggestion with being a Obama supporter. The writing is on the wall and they realize that the Democratic Party as we know it could be damaged for decades by having someone who lost the popular vote, pledged delegates and had fewer state wins “STEAL” the nomination via backroom deals.
Firefighter writes, “They would ignore her and continue campaigning they way McCain handled Huckabee. The fact is Hillary will win big in Pennsylvania and will win the majority of the remaining states.
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Even if she “wins” PA it won’t be by much. Granted she should win big considering the Governor of PA basically said his constituents basically don’t vote for Black politicians. (lol) Go figure.
Firefighter writes, “Depending on what negatives come forth on Obama and momentum, she could even win ALL remaining states.
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Not only will this not happen but it won’t even be close.
Firefighter writes, “One Obama supporter on meet the press said the reason Hillary should bow out was not because she was weak but because she was strong and is expected to finish strong in the remaining elections.”
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Funny how folks like yourself always talk about he said, she said and can never remember WHO said it. The odds that they would actually have ANYONE on Meet the Press provide such a silly statement are slim to none. Why do you folks persist in making stuff up? Were you in Bosnia as well? (lol)
Firefighter writes, “Another commentator said she may have only a 5% or 10% chance now but after everyone has voted and with a strong showing her chances will go up! Hang in there Hillary we will not give up!!”
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In the words of Ronald Reagan, there you go again. He said, she said and the convenient memory lapse. Can’t remember WHO said it huh? Typical. That’s what happens when you make stuff up or even worse; don’t understand what is actually being said.