By MichaelJames

Mar 21, 2008 10:27pm

Obama Aide Slams ‘Outrageous’ Bill Clinton Remark

ABC’s Sunlen Miller and Sarah Amos report: Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign co-chairman, Gen. Tony McPeak, reacted angrily to a comment by former President Bill Clinton today.

Campaigning in Charlotte, N.C., Clinton said, "I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country, and people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics."

"Outrageous," McPeak said after an Obama rally in Salem, Ore. "I think it’s horrible. … I think Bill Clinton is, or ought to be, better than that."

McPeak likened the comment to McCarthyism.

"It sounds more like McCarthy," he said. "I was in college when Joe McCarthy was accusing good Americans of being traitors, so I’ve had enough of it."

He said that those who know Obama know that he loves America.

"Is this stupid or what?" McPeak asked. "It’s a use of language as a disguised insult. We’ve seen this before. This real clever spin on stuff."

McPeak said he did not know if Clinton’s comments were intentional or not.

A spokesman for Bill Clinton, Matt McKenna, had earlier elaborated on the former president’s remarks.

"As is indicated by the quote itself, President Clinton was talking about the need to talk about issues, rather than falsely questioning any candidate’s patriotism," McKenna said. "He was lamenting that these kind of distractions ‘always seems to intrude’ on political campaigns. This consistent with his criticism of the ‘politics of personal destruction,’ which dates back 16 years."

User Comments

Now Bill explained what he said, now Obama is going to take it out of context. Obama politics as usual.

Posted by: D | March 21, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

What is Obama afraid of in Bill Clinton’s speech? Did he say Obama doesn’t love America? Why Obama is afraid?

Posted by: golfgirlusa | March 21, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

Funny, I didnt read a slam of Obama into the original statement by Clinton at all. My take was that he thought it would be great if we could focus on the issues. I dont think that is going to happen until after the nomination is decided. That is what Obama is afraid of maybe?

Posted by: DCVoter | March 21, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

This is yet another attempt by the Obama camp to twist the words that come from those related to the Clinton campaign way out of proportion in order to make Obama look like a victim.
If Obama’s staffers had listened diligently to other recent interviews with Bill Clinton, the context and meaning would have been clear to them. This is at least the 2nd time in the past week he’s said this publically, and the first time he clearly prefaced it by saying both Hillary and Obama are good candidates. He was saying as much here too – two people who love this country but are subject to being pulled off the issues into petty distractions…
Like this. This rant by the Obama camp is a petty distraction.
I’m not as generous as Bill, Obama is clearly adept at deflecting focus from the issues. And with good reason. He has very little substance and no real coherent plan for the future.
And I’d also question whether or not Obama loves this country. Hard to believe with his past and present nefarious associations.
The Obama campaign just doesn’t grasp the Bill, and John Edwards last night on Leno – both are trying to help Obama douse the flames. But they keep seeing ghosts and waging imaginary battles with them.

Posted by: Torch | March 21, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

Bill needs to shut up and go away; Is Hilliary her own “girl”, or do national leaders have to ask for Bill in the White House when she picks up the phone at 2 AM??? Well… do they??? Thought so.

Posted by: cba | March 21, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

obama, we are so tired of your incessant attempts to twist the words of others while demanding that we put all of your crap in context. you have become so predictable as to be boring.
you may or may not be the democratic nominee. you will not be president.
you made the arrogant statement that to know you is to love you (paraphrasing, forgot your precise cocky words). actually, the more we get to know you, the more we can’t stand the sight of you.

Posted by: so saddened | March 21, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

As the campaign rolls out we see that Mr. Obama is just as political, and his team seems even more vicious, than some of his opponents. I read on the Chicago Tribune that when he ran at the very first for the legislature, his team went into the local office of the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners and challenged the petitions of his 4 Democratic opponents, one by one, until all of them dropped out. This included a long-time activist, state Senator Alice Palmer who had really made a difference for local people and worked hard for the Democratic party. I wonder what Alice Palmer has to say about “change we can believe in.”?

Posted by: Objective | March 21, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

Obama complained of racism early in the campaign – guess who eventually turned out listeinng to racist rants for 20 years
Now Obama complains that people are questioning his patriotism whenever someone says something completely unconnected to the topic. Maybe he’s worried that his anti-national tendencies will also be outed.
Hillary 08!

Posted by: Mahesh | March 21, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Well, it’s the Clinton ‘undertones’ pattern that we’ve come to recognize in her whole campaign, isn’t it? Bill’s remark comes one or two days after Hillary called Obama ‘un-American’ with regard to his so-called opposition against a Michigan (one of the now countless Clinton lies, btw).
This pattern of undertones made her lose some important endorsements and super delegates already, and in the end she’ll pay for it by a minority of super D’s backing her up, after which she will have lost EVERYTHING there was to lose in this race. There’s no respect whatsoever for these remarks in the DNC headquarters, so at this stage they are simply examples of the miserable campaign she is running.
She has lost for she deserved to lose.

Posted by: Greg | March 21, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

We’re seeing the last gasps of a failed candidacy. The Clinton campaign is in its death throes, and we’re seeing just how classless these folks can be when they don’t get their way.
It’s time for these self absorbed power mongers to put aside their own selfish interests so the country can focus on the general election and the two candidates. Enough chiding from an increasingly irrelevant candidate that has been defeated.

Posted by: Texas Voter | March 21, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

cba,
Good point about is Hillary her own girl or does she need Bill to constantly prop her up. I think as a president she would be a real lightweight, and if there’s a silver lining it would be Bill in the White House to make the really important decisions for her.

Posted by: Don | March 21, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

I loathe Clinton (both of em), but I didn’t read much into that, outside of the irony that the Clintons started this crap first.
All I can think of is that Clinton meant Obama and Clinton – where the Obama guy thought he meant McCain and Clinton.
But if anyone knows about how to engage in the Politics of Destruction, it’s Bill and Hillary. They wrote the damn manual. So not surprised someone reads things the wrong way once or twice.

Posted by: Blogarama | March 21, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

Perhaps the way that the media and bloggers have taken Rev. Wright’s comments out of context and twisting them. If Bill clinton is the political guru everyone says he is, he knew exactly what he was saying.

Posted by: lynn | March 21, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

Give me a break- Obama’s campaign is a master of spin. Although lately he is spinning so much that he must be getting dizzy because he has to keep clarifying all of his spins.
Hillary 2008

Posted by: te | March 21, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

Joan – it is obvious that you did not read or listen to all of the comments made by by Bill Clinton.
He specifically named the two people as Hillary and McCain.

Posted by: Jim | March 21, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

Spouses campaign for spouses. So you think Michelle should not be campaigning for Obama? That probably would have been better for the party and the country since she is the one who started the racial division with her “Black America will wake up” statement. What about her sexist remark about Senator Clinton? Mustve backfired on her since Clinton gained female voters after that. From the data of voters prior to SC, there was no disparity between the races. The only group that appears to be voting based on race is the black voting bloc and Obama is not even black but Michelle wants him to be or she would not have said that. LOL

Posted by: DCVoter | March 21, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

What interests me is the past tense.
Billie calls Hill and Johnny “two people who LOVED this country”.
He’s clearly is making a contrast with Barry as someone “who LOVES this country”. As we heard Barry say in The Speech.
And I think that everyone who knows Hill can be sure that her love for America is in the past tense indeed, now that the American people by their votes have blocked her road to the White House. Hill will never forgive America for doing so. Don’t blame her. It was HER election year, after all. Don’t blame her, it’s her character gap.
And yet, Billie’s remark is a scandal. There’s no need to reveal Johnny’s and Hill’s lost patriotism when nobody was asking Billie what he thought about anything. Billie should have stayed out all his. Billie is the dirty boy.

Posted by: Harko | March 21, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

Oh wait… back then he was identifying as the AA candidate. What is he identifying as now? A true uniter IMHO works for all races and genders towards common goals we all share. Hmm where did I hear that before? Oh yeah… Clinton said, “Unity for the sake of unity is not my goal. I want to unify the country around meeting big goals.”

Posted by: DCVoter | March 21, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

Here we go again!..I’m no fan of Bill Clintons but these Obama people need to “man-up” and quit being so sensitive. The only way you could take offense at anything Clinton said was to really go looking for something. I just read Clintons quote again to see if I was wrong but there is nothing wrong with what he said. I’ll probably vote for Obama but he needs to get a staff with some thicker skin and as I said, take what someone says at face value and quit looking for some hidden meaning or innuendo Ridiculous!

Posted by: Scott Sanford | March 21, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

I’m not sure maybe the Obama camp is WRIGHT. NO, don’t think so!

Posted by: D | March 21, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

Sick of – I agree that was all stupid but blame the right people, that was the RNC, Republican Party, and Ken Starr making a private matter public.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 21, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

Hear hear. Why does everyone always slam on Obama? He is a courageous man.He got endorsed today by one of the most important super deligates today. hillary and Bill need to setlle down and stop undermining the citizens against Obama. He is a phenominal and they cannot change that. The super delegate supported that today. The word will be in a lot oh hostile environment if Hillary make it to the white house. The lady has a terible attitude. She is always fighting obama for his stability. She cannot stand the fact that Obama has got the super delegate of Bill’s freind who flew to watch the super bowl with him. Does that tell you something world. It really look like an insult when your long time friend does not endorse you to be president. It is a power that frienship is friendship and politics is politics. Bill want to get in the white house so he can do his tricks again with whoever. If you know what I mean.Bill is a nasty minded man political and his personal life. Hillary is right behind him. Dirty, dirty. My vote is for Obama and I am from North Carolina. I will be sure to vote for him. May May. i have great influence on my friends and will encourage them to vote for Obama.May God Bless obama and his campaign. Go Obama.

Posted by: Wanda | March 21, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

This again is yet ANOTHER example of someone from the Obama campaign taking any angle POSSIBLE to take anything Bill Clinton says out of context. Its a joke, but nobody is laughing anymore. Obama is unelectable.

Posted by: tomdavie | March 21, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

Sick of Clinton: Only because the media and the Clinton haters were obsessed with bringing a great President down. What about JFK and Marilyn Monroe, that was OK though, a little wink , wink, and JKF hung with Sinatra and mobsters, again wink, wink. We learned in the end, that Bill’s indiscretions did not hurt his Presidency, or all the good that came out of it.

Posted by: Jay | March 21, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

Well here is what ws posted earlier today on this very Blog. So Now I have to ask is ABC pulling our legs. Just Click on Campaigning in Carlotte NC in blue above. It fdose sasy that Bill Clinton was talking about A contest between McCain and Clinton in November.
March 21, 2008 3:28 PM
ABC News’ Sarah Amos Reports: Former president Bill Clinton became the first Clinton of the Democratic primary election to visit North Carolina Friday, speaking to about 80 veterans and their families at a VFW hall in Charlotte, NC.
Clinton was nearly an hour late for the invite-only, stopping at a restaurant across the street to have a garden burger and talk with patrons. Seeming a bit more tired than usual, Clinton gave a short speech focused heavily on veteran’s rights and the economy.
Clinton made the argument that come November, his wife is not only more electable, but that a general election race between soon-to-be Republican nominee Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., would not get caught up in the “other stuff” that takes over elections.
“I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country and people could actually asks themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics,” Clinton said.
Clinton also continued to play up Hillary’s chance to win the popular vote come June.
“She would be the best for veterans, the best commander and chief the best for the economy and is the most electable. If North Carolina votes for her, she will end up this process with more popular votes and I believe she will be the nominee of the party and the next president. It is all up to you,” said Clinton.
When asked about the “other stuff” Clinton was referring to, Bill Clinton spokesman Matt McKenna told ABC News: “President Clinton was talking about the need to talk about issues, rather than falsely questioning any candidate’s patriotism.” He was lamenting that these kind of distractions “always seems to intrude” on political campaigns. This, McKenna said, is consistent with his criticism of the “politics of personal destruction,” which dates back 16 years.
Clinton made no mention today of New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson’s endorsement of Obama today, who said that despite his long friendship with the Clinton’s he believed Obama’s candidacy was historic, and touted his 2002 opposition to the Iraq war, and said it’s time Democrats stop fighting amongst themselves and join together to fight McCain. Richardson served as Secretary of Energy in the Clinton administration.

Posted by: Thinking | March 21, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm

Obama has an endless deck of race cards to play.

Posted by: kmkmkm | March 21, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

I agree with Mr Clinton when he says “I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country, and people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics.” The problem I have with this statement is that he and his wife can’t seem to grasp that many people are asking themselves who are the people that are promoting “all this other stuff” and the answer to that question, at least for me, is in his statement. Your politics Mr Clinton will hopefully never have to be intruded on ever again.

Posted by: cali | March 21, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

See, I can make up stuff and call them facts too..lol
Obama is desperately jealous of Bill Clinton, because Bill is something he will never become. A great 2 term President who gave our country a peaceful and prosperous 8 years. If Obama gets in Al-Queda will be ringing your door bell like the Jehovah Witnesses looking for converts and donations..lol

Posted by: Jay | March 21, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

It seems really silly to have all of this acrimony with two candidates who basically agree on everything. I wish the superdelegates would all just declare and then let this thing play out in the states. By the way, there’s no point to a Michigan revote because the required rules would only allow the same people who voted before to vote again. It’s a waste of time and money as there is no reason to suspect people would change their votes.

Posted by: MIguy | March 21, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

As of today, there are exactly 90 days until the last state convention for the voter’s delegate allocation. There are 179 days until the democratic nominee is selected. Until then, unless a candidate steps out for whatever reason including a political meteor, the race is on! (I wonder if anyone is keeping track of the blogging stats.)

Posted by: DCVoter | March 21, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

do you really think with all the recent revelations of Obamas character and judgement, lies, that he is truely electable? I’m not seeing it.

Posted by: D | March 21, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

People are so thin skinned in this campaign including Air Force Generals who are supposed to demonstrate bold leadership. As the saying goes, you are judged by the company you keep. A self fulfilling profecy?

Posted by: Eric | March 21, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

Bill Clinton has deeply damaged his legacy during this campaign.

Posted by: ElodieStClair | March 21, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

MIguy – I hear ya, but Obama is the one who refused to accept a solution so now the courts will decide that one. I dont know if I agree with the SDs endorsing now for a couple of reasons: the trial is not over (there may be other things come out that could influence their vote) and their official votes are not cast per the rules until the convention. Anything can change as we have seen already with SDs moving between candidates. Nothing prevents the moving back and forth.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 21, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

Again, stick to FACTS. I could say one candidate or another COULD win 100% of the remaining delegates. I COULD happen.
See? I can weakly and pitifully play that game too. I just choose to look at what has transpired and I just choose not to indulge in fantasy. I could say I will be the pitcher for the Cubs on Opening Day. I COULD say that. Now, reality dictates….

Posted by: Texas Voter | March 21, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

Heck, Obama won’t even wear a flag pin because it’s a symbol… he’s so patriotic, but we ask young men to serve and die for that symbol. What does that tell them. What kind of an example is that out of a man who wants to be Commander and Chief?
He should just be quite.

Posted by: John | March 21, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Actually this quote is even WORSE when placed in context. Clinton nammed Hillary and Mccain as his “two people” in the portions before this. ABC, how about updating the post?

Posted by: BP | March 21, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

@DCVoter: Hate to revisit courts and elections – brings back too many memories of the craziness of 2000. I understand your point about the superdelegates, but how about an anonymous tally showing where they stand. They can change their vote at the convention if they like. If 80% are for either Clinton or Obama, it puts a lot of this to rest. If it’s 50/50 then the states will decide things. If either of them does or says something completely unelectable (which McCain seems to be desperately trying lately) then it’ll get hashed out at the convention, right?

Posted by: MIguy | March 21, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Texas Voter, I am a huge Cub fan, and you could probably make the team, but please, about those facts. They are the facts as you want us to believe them.

Posted by: Jay | March 21, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

ALL of the numbers are projections not facts until the convention. Normally, the variations dont matter but this year the race is too close and it all matters. Pledged delegate allocations are not final until June 29. The SDs can change camps anytime they want to until that time. Both camps, all the media sites, and all the pundits are simply projecting.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 21, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

Jay,
Do you follow the news now and then? The point is, you see, that the votes in FA and MI don’t count. Two months ago it was your girl Hillary who even stressed the point that they, quote, “wouldn’t count for anything”. You get that? Besides, she put her signature under a statement that these votes wouldn’t count.
Btw, in an open MI revote (as rejected by that same girl, Hillary) Sen. Obama might very well have won the state. The last MI poll showed a tie. I guess that’s why your girl rejected the idea. For the rest of the MI disaster your girl’s big friend Eddie Rendell is responsable.
Jay, did you read the “The Clinton Myth” article over at Politico, where staff members of her campaign admit she has a 10% chance of winning the nomination left? Well, believe me, these are the optimists.
It is over.

Posted by: Matho | March 21, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

All the pledge that the candidates signed was not to campaign in FL & MI and they didn’t (except for the Obama TV ads). They could both fund raise and both of them did.

Posted by: John | March 21, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

MIguy: unfortunately, no matter what happens between now and then, the only true fact we know, aside from a withdrawal by either candidate (unlikely), is it will be settled at the convention only. It is mathematically impossible for either candidate to be nominated without the SDs. So we might as well site back and wait and enjoy the show. I am keeping track best I can because the numbers game is intriguing for mathematicians.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 21, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

NEWS FLASH for Matho and Texas!!!!!!
MI and FL outcomes are still undecided. If you want to check the real news and not just some blog postings, research it. We are waiting for court decisions and DNC meeting outcomes. There are rules and processes and laws to be followed.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 21, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

Actually, the Cubs are going to be pretty good this year, I’m VERY hopeful (Then again Cubs fans always are…. until the season starts).
Look, Pelosi and the rest of the SD have stated repeatedly they would not steal the election from the leader of the pledged delegates, whoever that is. They have stated, and rightfully so, that doing that would harm the Democratic Party, possibly irreparably.
My hunch, and it is ONLY a hunch, is that the SDs will put an end to this very soon. They see their top candidates bloodying each other while McCain rises in the polls. They’re not going to sit on the sidelines and allow that to happen. Now that Richardson has endorsed Obama, I suspect other will follow soon.
For the Democrats, it’s time to concentrate on the General Election. If they don’t soon, they will lose in November.

Posted by: Texas Voter | March 21, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

LOL MIguy: valid points… we shall see if it is a real election or a landslide against Obama if he gets the nom.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 21, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

Matho, I read every political news and blog piece everywhere on the net. Don’t be disillusioned and buy into the Obama rhetoric. The Politico and Huffington are just blogs and the most hateful anti-Clinton blogs on the net. If you use them as your source, you have already received slanted and tainted news.
The Michigan debacle is shoulda, woulda, coulda, but the DNC and the courts will do the right thing and make ALL the votes count. You can bet on that. If Hillary had only a 1% chance , she is a fighter and she would still fight on. I admire her for that stance above all.
Obama wishes she would have dropped out before Texas & Ohio, but he wants everything to go his way, and have everyone just swoon and hand him the nomination and the presidency. He is like a spoiled 4 year old, and unfit to lead our great country out of this dark and difficult time.

Posted by: Jay | March 21, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

Will the General be fired this time around after making sexist comments about Hillary? Is this CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN?

Posted by: Eric | March 21, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

No one has to twist Bill’s words. He is intentional not being clear and sending misleading/double messages.. You think Bill it that stupid he does know what he is doing once again. Dirty politics no twisting necessary.

Posted by: goodwins | March 21, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

@DCVoter: Agreed. Although I was sick of the debates, it’s probably a good idea to restart them rather than these ad hominem attacks.
Again everybody, your candidates are on the same team, with the same goals. Your candidate has already won because if they don’t get the presidential nomination, they will be a powerful voice in the Senate. Ultimately, the latter may be more powerful in the long run!

Posted by: MIguy | March 21, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

DCVoter: “is it will be settled at the convention only”
well – let’s agree that it will depend on what the super delegates do or don’t do between now and Denver. Most DNC hotshots seem to be pretty sure that the Democrats will have their nominee in June. I don’t think there’ll an opportunity for HRC to take it to the floor. Plus, it would be end of her career in politics.
In Quinnipiac’s poll today, in the State of New York Obama does already slightly better against McCain than Clinton does. Amazing, isn’t it?

Posted by: Matho | March 21, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

“This election will be all over by Super Tuesday”, that is what Hillary Clinton, said even befrore the candidates began to compete in Iowa. Even when before Iowa,it was determined that Florida and michigan would not count; Clinton said it would not matter, because it would all be over by Super Tuesday; so said the candidate with the most experience. Where is the experience. She could have displayed it in 2003, but she gave Bush a free pass to Iraq. She’s never balanced a budget and hell until recently, couldn’t even balance her own campaign’s checkbook. She did not count on and no one counted on Obama. Look at her home state of New York; she couldn’t even win by 20% When he won 12 in a row, instead of displaying sportsmanship, she showed lack of character. not even acknowledging the victories of her opponent. She barely won the Texas popular vote and still obama came away with more delegates. Now, the way Texas splits ther delegates is wrong. Funny how no one said anything before, when her husband ran for President 16 years prior. Now she wants us to overlook the fact that she WILL NOT win pledged delegates, WILL NOT win the popular vote; but state a case that she is the one who should receive the nomination. She could not even convince Bill Richardson, a long time supporter of Bill Clinton, to endorse her. Now we see a candidate who is once again desperate, and is trying to use patriotism to say she is better than Barack. Correct me if i’m wrong, but when Bill Clinton was President, Vietnam veterans didn’t exactly embrace the draft dodger. And yes, deeo in the Clinton campaign is hoping that the Jeremiah Wright controversy will persuade people to choose her based on fear. What i fear is that we will allow Republicans to return to the status quo, if we cannot put aside our differences. The fact of the matter is, the math is not in Hillary’s favor. She is infact running a campaign on hope. HOW IRONIC!!! LOL If Bill Richardson can see it, so will other Super Delegates. If Pennsylvania cannot see it, North Carolina, Oregon and West Virgina will see it. IT is time for REAL CHANGE! Hillary has ran a valiant campaign and women across this nation should be proud of her. But it is time for her to step aside for the good of the country as well as the Democratic party. It is time that we all unite behind Barack Obama!

Posted by: David H Edmondson | March 21, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

The Obama camp response confirms that Obama is not patriotic. Otherwise, why would they be so sensitive about it.
Did Obama oppose Iraq war bcos he didn’t think it is advisable or he didn’t want Al Qaeda weakened?

Posted by: Roger Miller | March 21, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

Jay: I’ll bet you anything you want that MI & FL will not be counted as per the flawed elections.
MI didn’t even have Obama’s name on it. A lot of his supporters didn’t bother to vote or voted republican.
If an election was valid without a campaign in either FL and MI, why bother with campaigns at all? All the states should have voted for Clinton last year, and this would have been over.
Anyway. The ridiculous FL lawsuit was thrown out of court today. MI is dead in the water, no pending lawsuit.
FL and MI will appeal to the Credentials Committee with a plan on how to apportion the delegates, but I can GUARANTEE it won’t be based on the original votes.
Oh yeah, and the supers from FL and MI won’t be seated either. They have nothing to do with the “will of the people”.

Posted by: memoryaid | March 21, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

The reason Obama did not repudiate Wright because of the black voter backlash. The liberal pundits went gaga over his courage. Courage my foot.

Posted by: Roger Miller | March 21, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

Sorry DavidE. There are over 14 million of us so far and many more yet to vote who will support Hillary until SHE says it’s over, not any Obama surrogate, follower or the great messiah St. Obama himself.
Oh and GOTRH. ALL OF YOUR WORDS MUST BE TRUE SINCE THEY ALL ALL IN CAPS>>>!!!AHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Jay | March 21, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

Roger:
By your token, Obama should make a speech and suggest that Hillary isn’t patriotic, and then if she or anybody on her campaign complains, that will prove that she’s actually unpatriotic and doesn’t love this country.
Twisted.

Posted by: memoryaid | March 21, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

Jay,
When I consider what Obama has gone in a single week of his campaign, and how gets out of that week, I must say he’s pretty tough and resistant for a “spoiled 4 years old”. And never lost his temper.
His coolness is a very stark contrast with the overheated anger and despair I see in these blogs. And that coolness is just what I’d like to see in a President. And not the hot tempered McCain, and not the ‘shame on you!’ and crying Hillary. They would both be a disaster at 3 a.m.

Posted by: Matho | March 21, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

WestCoastMessinger:
Bill may be the Man But He’s Not the
Candidate! Or is He!
I have suspected all along that
Hillary’s candidacy is an attempt to
circumvent the law prohibiting
third terms for U.S. Presidents!

Posted by: reaganfan | March 21, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

reagafan:
isn’t it funny that Hillary hasn’t had to make a speech and clarify how Bill will feature in her administration?
her campaign said “yeah, we realize we’ll have to do that, and we’ll do it if we’re the nominee”
just like they’re releasing all their financial info after all the voting is over.
classic.

Posted by: memoryaid | March 22, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

I truly think btw that without Bill Hillary might have won the nomination.
But.
But without Bill, there wouldn’t have a Hillary Clinton in this race.
So there you go.

Posted by: Matho | March 22, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

Senator Obama, if wearing an american flag lapel pin is not necessary to be patriotic, why did you place eight american flags on the dais while giving a speech justifying the Wright tirades?
You removed the lapel pin to suck up to the america-hating looney left?

Posted by: Roger Miller | March 22, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

Matho, are you kidding me? Everything Obama has gone through, he brought on himself with his poor judgment, lies and deceit to all of the American people. Without a script and a teleprompter he is a mess. He is manufactured by the media. His coolness and demeanor are all written by his advisers. He is the most phony two-faced, lying politician I have ever seen.

Posted by: Jay | March 22, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am

It’s over. Obama will be the nominee.
Richardson knows it. The Superdelagates are getting on the train. More endorsements to come.
The Florida/Michigan strategy ain’t happpening. Wheels are turning at all levels. Time to wrap it up and start unifying the party.
Hillary in unelectable. Negatives are rising. Deep resentment for the Clintons is outweighing political calculations on how to get a share of the spoils if she were to win.
Hillary will be a footnote in history. Bill Clinton will be blamed for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. The discrediting of this flawed man is about to become complete.

Posted by: Gorgon '08 | March 22, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am

memoryaid:
Yeah and we shouldn’t hold our
breaths waiting for those tax returns!
LOL!

Posted by: reaganfan | March 22, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

Obama is so scared of Bill Clinton that anytime Bill say anything Obama immediately calls it “Racist”. What are you afraid of Barack?

Posted by: where the beef? | March 22, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

I like to think of all the good things people do. Bill Clinton has done more good than bad, but just what has Obama done at all. NOTHING, except listen to a Rev. who seems to hate America.

Posted by: ikkeye | March 22, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

No Matho – the SDs do not cast votes until the convention. Per the rules (I didnt make them) that is the official time and it does not matter who they endorse or do not endorse until then. Normally it isnt relevant but this time it is.
The DNC hoped to have a nominee after SuperTuesday but Dean was wrong. He then said he hopes to have a nominee by April so the SDs do not have to make a decision and they can seat MI and FL. He then said he hopes to have a nominee by June but now that is not possible without one of the candidates withdrawing which is not likely unles they make a backroom deal. All thte things Dean feared are happening because he is so incompetent. He screwed up the schedules and imposed a penalty against voters who were disenfranchised by the republicans interfering in the democratic schedule. Put the blame where it lies… on Dean and the DNC committees. The voters are not to blame and should not be punished. The remaining voters should also not be disenfranchised by not allowing them to participate. Let the people vote and let the processes work. It will be the most historic convention in history! Jackson et al are just trying to scare people into thinking there will be riots. We are better than that and will not fall for idle threats.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 22, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am

I have heard 56,347 Obama fans say it’s over for Hillary, and yet, she is in this until at least June when the last state votes.
The “real” most unelectable in the general is Obama. The typical white folks are leaving him in droves, the Hispanic vote is lost and McCain will destroy him in the general, and as sad as that will be for the democrats, I for one, will never have to listen to that insincere rhetoric of that typical Chicago politician ever again. 4 years of McCain might be worth it.

Posted by: Jay | March 22, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

Memoryaid:
Bill Clinton talked about two people arguing over issues. Did he say “Obama is not patriotic”? Twisted? Warped is your thought process. Obama equated Geraldine Ferraro with the racist bigot Wright. That is twisted. Think twice before you post an item. Obama looks for implied messages when he accuses people of racism even though he is unwilling to repudiate a racist. This is the same person who wanted Trent Lott and Don Imus to leave their jobs. Obama is the worst form of politician. People are cynical about politicians because of politicians like Obama.

Posted by: Roger Miller | March 22, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

The only thing that is over is Obama chance to win the white house. Obama judgement has ended his chance ever to win the white house. If he wins the nomination he will be destroyed in the general election. All the Rep will do is play Rev Wright greatest hits over and over and over and over again!!!

Posted by: where the beef? | March 22, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

Roger Miller. Truer words were never spoken, plus I always like your music.

Posted by: Jay | March 22, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

As always, the Obama camp is ridiculous. No matter what the Clintons say, Obama-spin will accuse them of racism, distortion, or whatever suits their political fancy. Methinks Obama doth protest to much.

Posted by: Emily | March 22, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

Hillary caught in 3 LIES today alone.
1: Child Welfair Act – signed by Bill 16 days into his Presidency and had already been finalized. Hillary shows NO meeting or talks on the issue so she did NOT bring it about as she has stated.
2: NAFTA- shows she held 5 meetings/get to gethers to support it….did NOT argue against it other than she wanted her Health Care Plan pushed first.
3: Stated she had to DUCK and run to a waiting car to avoid SNIPER FIRE. Total lie. Video footage shows her and Chelsea walking out of the plane, down a red carpet and accepting flowers from a 6 year old girl.
If you Hillary supporters want to debate REAL issues lets start with these 3..there are others but please explain why your candidate lied about all 3 of the above.
You can scream about Obama but that does nothing to explain these acts of moral lacking in regards to YOUR candidate.
Sooooo if no one can explain them away USING FACTS ONLY then perhaps you might want to rethink your decision.
OBAMA 08

Posted by: Brian | March 22, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

@Matho: I think you’re right about President Clinton hurting her campaign. In some ways, she is suffering from guilt-by-assocation with him.
I think the sad thing about the second point is that she might believe that comment when I don’t think it’s true. I think some question her standing by him so many times as politically expedient rather than forgiving. (Didn’t she say in the early 90′s that she wasn’t a ‘Tammy Wynette stand by your man’ kind of person?) She really is a bright person and could have done this on her own. I honestly think if she had separated from him that it would have helped her politically; BUT, that’s none of our business and it’s tragic that their personal life has played out so publically.

Posted by: MIguy | March 22, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

People say Obama is not a racist. How do you know? This fellow is still unwilling to repudiate Wright and is part of a racist church.

Posted by: Roger Miller | March 22, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

Obama taking things out of contex? WHAT planet do you live on? It sure isnt this one. Bill is a racist. He showed it in SC and now he is showing it in NC. One would actually think the man was for the Obama presidency LOL

Posted by: Brian | March 22, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

Interesting tidbit on how Clinton can’t win the race unless she steals it…so now she lies and steals…what a candidate ROTFLMAO

Posted by: Sam | March 22, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

What about Mr. Obama’s “Typical white person” comment? This coming from a person who supposed trascended race right? Obama campaign, including David Pluffe and Daviad Alexrod, now Gen. McPeak knows that they can’t stand on Mr. Obama’s accomplishments, which is alsmost none, so they have to find something someone said about something, to fuss about…The truth of matter is Mr. Obama is quickly running out of steam. Look at the Pennsyvaia polls, Hillary Clinton is widen her lead now up 17 points over Mr. Obama and his advicers rave run out of ideas. Mr. Obama’s supposrt among independents and men are now plumetting.

Posted by: charleschaplin | March 22, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

The popular vote count should and must include Florida and Michigan. Obama is scared of competing in those two states.
The rule is that these two delegations cannot be seated.
In any case, Kerry, Edwards and Richardson are going against their rrespective voters. I think the Supers ccan and should vote for Hillary.
Obama is toast. He knows that he will not be the president now or never.

Posted by: Roger Miller | March 22, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

I doubt most people believe President Clinton is a ‘racist’ – I think he’s a politician who uses every trick to his advantage. Likewise, for those criticizing Reverend Wright, I have yet to hear his ‘racist’ comments either. The comment I heard in the sound bite was awful but sound bites are not the measure of a man. I think that before casting the first stone, we should ask ourselves if we would want to be measured by anything one of our friends or family has said over the past 20 years.

Posted by: MIguy | March 22, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

personal destruction, I thought Billy boy held the paten on that…
jck

Posted by: James C. Karmer | March 22, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

I don’t think Bill is racist. He wants his wife to become president. However, Obama is “Oey Dokeying and bamboozling the black vote” and he wants to do the same to the white vote.
He should have apologized instead lectured the nation. The audacity of hope or is it trhe audacity of shamelessness. I think he is shameless and honorless. Who would talk about his grand mother like that? Obama is neither black nor white. He is a snake.

Posted by: Roger Miller | March 22, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

Bill Clinton a racist? You really are delusional Brian. He has done more for black people and minorities in one year than Obama has done in a lifetime.
Why would a racist keep his office in Harlem.? Why would a racist donate $250K to the Harlem community from his foundation to help revitalize the neighborhood? Mr. Clinton has given millions to aids research and African communities. A racist? What planet are you living on?

Posted by: Jay | March 22, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

I live in here in SC and Bill never did anything here that was racist in anyway. The Obama people feed the media false reports and the media ate it up. If anyone listens to what Bill said here in SC they would see that It was Obama playing the race card.

Posted by: where the beef? | March 22, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

DCVoter:
“Put the blame where it lies… on Dean and the DNC committees. The voters are not to blame and should not be punished. The remaining voters should also not be disenfranchised by not allowing them to participate. Let the people vote and let the processes work.”
I totally agree on that. I think it’s sad and a real shame that FA and MI voters do not count in these primaries. And I would accept the idea of a full revote, doing the 2 primaries over, even though I see how silly (for FA and MI were punished, and the candidates agreed), difficult (timeline) and expensive that would be.
But I reject, denounce etc. Hillary when she suddenly starts changing her mind on the counting of votes in the disqualified primaries, simply because she needs those votes now. So she blames Obama for sticking to the DNC rules… It it such spins, tricks and twists that make her very impopular with many. With me, for example.

Posted by: Matho | March 22, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

If you Obama supporters think Hillary cannot win, ask Obama to stop wasting money on campaigning?
Why is he campaigning against Hillary? Think about it. If the bottom falls out and if Obama loses big to Hillary, she will be the nominee.
Then we democrats can all work to make our nominee Hillary the President. If Obama becomes the nominee, I will not stay home. I will vote for McCain…

Posted by: Roger Miller | March 22, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

I am so sick of Obama I could SCREEM!

Posted by: Ken | March 22, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

@Roger Miller: I guess I’m not sure what Senator Obama should have apologized about. He didn’t say the comments and denounced them. He won’t disown his pastor and my guess is that he knows him better than either of us. Has no one around you ever said ignorant, racist or stupid things? If not, you have lived fortunately. Now, I will take Senator Obama at his word. I also took President Clinton at his word when he said he didn’t sleep with Monica Lewinsky. I hope Senator Obama doesn’t disappoint me too.

Posted by: MIguy | March 22, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

Texas Voter, We don’t attack, we set people straight who are trying to discredit Hillary and Bill’s legacy, I would do the same for Obama if he had one. And ALL of the voters have not spoken. There are still 10 states and Florida and Michigan to be resolved, yet, I feel like I am repeating myself when I respond to your Obama bias posts. Why is that?

Posted by: Jay | March 22, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

For those who keep asking if Obama is a racist, patriot, anti-semite. How do we know he’s not? Maybe the same way we know everybody else is not. I’ve never heard him say anything but the contrary. I’ve read his books and listened to many of his speeches, looked at his state and senate list of accomplishments, and he shows no bias whatsoever. At all. Ever. As opposed to the Clintons who keep saying things that make me cringe (I’m white).
As to electability: How is Hillary planning to win an election when her unfavorable rating is 55%, her favorable only 43%?

Posted by: memoryaid | March 22, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

What a cry baby. With the Obama campaign getting all the mileage on TV with MSNBC and CNN, getting the kid glove treatment on interviews and debates, what else do they want?Although I didn’t think of it before, Barack Obama did mention affirmative action. Maybe this is it…

Posted by: haha | March 22, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

Brian, You make no sense. Bill Clinton has done more to advance African Americans in this culture than virtually anyone. Obama, on the other hand, embraces militant racist and anti-American dogma.
You’ve obviously had too much Kool Aid tonight.

Posted by: Emily | March 22, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

67% of the people in the country agreed with a revote, 18% say seat as is, only 15% say dont count the votes. Matho, if you actually do the research you will find that both Clinton and Obama said last year that the MI and FL delegates should be seated and that they will ask for them to be seated at the convention. Both made statements when asked about the votes later saying they wont count but you see that was in reference to the DNC rules not what they thought of the voters. The only flip flop that happened was when Obama said “I will abide by whatever the committee decides.” with regards to the revote proposals. When the DNC, state committee, legislature, and Clinton all agreed on MI, he refused to stand behind his statement. Perhaps you havent been following the details and only see the out of context sound bytes.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 22, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

All of Obama’s wounds are self inflicted. He chose to stay in Rev Wright church for 20 years with his wife and children. Obama chose to do business with Rezko while Rezko was under Federal Investigation. Obama has only one person to blame for where he is today himself. But knowing Obama he will say someone (a racist) else did it.

Posted by: where the beef? | March 22, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

DCVoter: Unfortunately, from what I’ve heard, about half of her supporters want her, and the others just want the 90s back. I’ve heard many people say that having Bill back in the white house would be very important to them.

Posted by: memoryaid | March 22, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am

Obama is weaving a web around Clinton and raising a noise around every thing Clinton says as it worked for him everytime and sad thing is that voter even brought his “Fairy tale” version on Wright.

Posted by: Humm | March 22, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

Memoryaid. You forgot to mention the other Rasmussen tracking info:
On Friday, Obama’s favorable ratings remain little changed from recent days—48% favorable, 50% unfavorable. Before the Pastor Problem became big news, Obama was viewed favorably by 52%. One month ago, he was viewed favorably by 56%. The number with a Very Unfavorable opinion of Obama has increased from 26% a week ago to 33% today.
Trust me, his numbers are only going to get worse as McCains go up.
I am not willing to take a chance on an unknown politician who has been a student of a racist, anti-white, anti-semantic, anti-USA mentor. Simple as that, you can if you want, but I and millions of other will not.

Posted by: Jay | March 22, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

@DCVoter: No question about it, she is a strong candidate. I think she got bad advice to not go vigorously after the smaller states and to not oppose the moving of the primaries in Florida and Michigan.

Posted by: MIguy | March 22, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am

As much as Obama and his surrogates try to spin and distract the fact remains:
the Trinity Church is his spiritual home and Rev. Wright is his “spiritual mentor”. All his bobbing and weaving and clarifications have all just reinforced how deeply tied he is to Wright – who has a history of hateful, anti-American sermons. Obama said that if there was a pattern of these kinds of statements he would leave the church. We have seen numerous statements surface and he still stands with Wright. He quibbles about which statements he saw and which he didn’t. Whatever. The pattern is established and known. He has made his choice and now we have to make our own.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | March 22, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am

Jay:
Hold on to your hat then when all the junk on the Clintons is jolted back into people’s memory as the media start pouring through white house papers. Her numbers will go down a lot as well.
As for McCain, he won’t last 5 minutes in a debate with Obama. Even Clinton might be able to set him in his place. All he needs to do is confuse Shiia and Sunni a few more times when Lieberman is not around. Oh, and explain how the war has made us safer.

Posted by: memoryaid | March 22, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am

First of all Texas Voter, I have every right to defend the candidate of my choice as you do. You facts are biased, and I don’t put up facts. I agree Obama is ahead, but I also look to the future. The future looks much better for Hillary vote wise than Obama right now. That is what I Base my opinion on, pure speculation, nothing more, same as you.

Posted by: Jay | March 22, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am

Bill Clinton has turned into a lowdown dog. Whatever dignity or grace he demonstrated as a public servant has clearly been cast aside to further his wife’s political aspirations.

Posted by: J Robinson | March 22, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

Vote for Obama because he believes that the typical white person can change.
Latte flavored kool-aid anyone?

Posted by: Empirical | March 22, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am

Sorry memoryaid, I don’t buy it. You can’t compare Clinton 1993 with Obama 2008, totally unfair. Plus all that is old news, while Obama is making some terrible decisions and bad judgment calls every day in 2008.
I am afraid if we put Obama in the White House his inexperience will plunge us into a world war, years of massive taxation and overspending, and the world looking down on us. At least with John McCain, I trust him to be competent, because he does have a great record. Obama frankly, has nothing to base anything on.

Posted by: Jay | March 22, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am

Jay, I admire your passion and celebrate it. I just don’t see how your scenarios change anything that has transpired so far. It is not in dispute that Obama leads by over 150 pledged delegates, so I don’t see how that makes me “biased”. Again, I have yet to see a viable way that Hillary can win the nomination short of the Super Delegates going en masse to her. I just don’t see that happening, especially since Pelosi and plenty of other SDs have stated they will not turn over the results of the pledged delegates.
That doesn’t make me biased. That just makes me well informed.

Posted by: Texas Voter | March 22, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am

What is Obama afraid of?? Does he have a secret agenda?? Who is Obama, really?? I would be very afraid if he became President of the US…

Posted by: jack | March 22, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am

memory: I have to disagree with what you heard based on the approval ratings when Bill left office at 60% (the sex scandal didnt matter to most) and the 80% approval rating among dems. I think a lot of people would be fine with Bill in the WH but believe Hillary would do a better job than he did in the 90′s. Bill is intelligent, politically astute, and familiar with foreign leaders and difficult decisions. Why wouldnt anyone want him to advise her? People claim the dems are not fiscally conservative when in fact, the only 4 years of the last 35 years that our government took in more than it spent was Bill’s second term… he even left a surplus that Bush spent in 90 days. Bill isnt running for office (he is too busy working on humanitarian causes and making money). People should stop judging her for his mistakes. People should stop treating her different because she happens to be a woman. But then we live in a society that accepts sexism as life. Women still make 70 cents on the dollar after 30 years of so called progress. What progress was made? Black americans make the same as white americans and that is a good thing! Who worked hard to help make that happen? Hillary Clinton. Who appointed more black people in his administration than any other? Bill Clinton. People just need to stop all this “other stuff” and focus on the traits we want in a President… not their spouse. If we were to judge Obama based on Michelle … oh boy… he would be in deep water.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 22, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

Again Texas Voter, I am looking to the future and all the numbers show Obama sliding and Hillary increasing state by state, so if she can catch up to under 100 delegates and win the popular vote, she will have a strong case. Now as far as the super delegates supporting the vote, that is Obama rhetoric and pure hogwash. If that is the way it is supposed to go, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy & Bill Richardson need to declare their support for Hillary since she won Mass, and New Mexico. If that is your reasoning on the super delegates, it is flawed.

Posted by: Jay | March 22, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am

Jay – good posts… I noticed today that Forbes has entered into the political projections arena. They are actually predicting an even stronger showing for Clinton. Rasmussen contradicts itself daily. I even watched Rasmussen in an interview directly contradict a poll he had released. LOL You are correct, only the combined trends are good indicators and the combined trend does show Obama is losing ground and Clinton is gaining ground. State polling for key states are also showing similar trends.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 22, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am

Jay, I understand where you’re coming from, I just don’t think she can win by enough margins to make that big of a dent in the SDs. She would need to win by 20 points in all the states just to get it close.
Again, it COULD happen. ANYTHING can happen, I’m just looking at the probability, and that is not very good.
Also, I do not agree that getting the pledged delegates to under 100 would convince enough SDs. She would still be losing at that point, and any play by the SDs at that point would look like the party is stealing it from Obama.
This is exactly the scenario that Pelosi and many others have said repeatedly they would not do.
These are not my words, it is theirs.

Posted by: Texas Voter | March 22, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am

If Obama was too much of a coward to stand up and speak out against the hate that his preacher was spewing for 20 years, how will he stand up to Iran, Korea, China, Cuba, etc.? Oh yeah, he plans to have them all come to the Whitehouse to witness one of his awe-inspiring speeches. Maybe he’ll surrender for peace.

Posted by: Bye | March 22, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

I wasn’t here in the McCarthy era, but from my understanding, this is exactly McCarthy tactics. anyone who have different opinion would be label as Communist. This is exactly it. If we say anything except singing and praise to Obama, we are low class, play dirty trick, etc.
Is this McCarthy tactics ? Trust me on this, I used to live under the Communist, and I know when they try ti shut off the legitimate complain. What I can’t understand is how a former general can go that low ?

Posted by: maleasiansmoker | March 22, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

Sorry Mark Webb, this is a 50/50 deal. All of us 14 million who voted for Hillary feel Obama is destroying the party, since he ran 4 years too early.
As far as Bill Clinton, he is no more flawed than the next politician, and why do you blame him for destroying the party? It seems to me Obama supporters alway want to blame everyone else and especially the Clinton’s for everything that is wrong with the party, and the Clinton’s are the only team that made this party great in the last 50 years.
The Blame goes squarely on the DNC, Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy John Kerry etc…

Posted by: Jay | March 22, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am

I am a American Soldier and I’ve serve our country for over 28 years. I like both Obama and Hillary. I wish adults could be adults and stick to the issue of life and death. I don’t care if Obama wears a pin or Hillary didn’t do everything she said 8 years ago. But, all you folks blaming them for things they don’t even know about is silly to the tenth degree. Grow up and try to treat others the way you would want someone to treat you. You’re not responsible for your friends and everything they say. Realize it is the media that don’t tell the truth, just as they don’t care what they print or don’t print about what happens in the War zone. The only thing they care about is us americans ragging on each other to make money. Consider that. Money is the our biggest foe in America.
God Bless our country wake please before it’s too late and vote for whom you wish without making someone else look bad about the way they feel or whom they support. That is what I fight for in our great country.

Posted by: WB | March 22, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

I want every one to think about this.
1. Obama wants to be the nominee without the delegations of Florida and Michigan weighing in. Two big states should not have any input per Obama.
2. He won most of his delegate lead via caucuses where Hillary voters(old voters, shift workers, people too busy with their own lives) cannot participate.
3. He lost some of the biggest states that will vote democratic. He won states like Georgia, SC, Idaho, Wyoming, Mississippi etc., that will not vote democratic.
4. Basically, he wants to play the delegate game.
5. Rules allow supers to vote which ever way they like.
6. He is asking for super delegate votes whose voters voted for Clinton. Think of Kerry, Kennedy and Richardson.
All this shows that Obama is a weak General Election candidate and a politician. He wants to be the nominee even if he loses the General Election.
Think about it. He will not be President after Wright fiasco. He should drop out now for the sake of democratic party.
God Bless America and Proud to be an American.

Posted by: Roger Miller | March 22, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

Is the DNC really going to give us 3 losers in a row? Hello President McCain. I think its time for a new party.

Posted by: Losers | March 22, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

So what is the Obama camp going to do this time. Destroy the legacy of Pres Clinton and picture him as racist so they can galvanize the BLACK votes to their favor?
They already did and it worked, right? Thanks with the help of Mathews, Olbermann and Cooper.

Posted by: Raul | March 22, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am

Hey Roger, But Obama believes in change.

Posted by: Pedro | March 22, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am

Kennedy and Kerry failed to beat the reps before but have been propping Obama up for several years. I think they see it as their way to be pseudo Presidents since Obama depends on advisors. Pelosi has an 11% approval rating and will likely not win re-election if a good challenger steps up. Her indiscretions noted by Judicial Watch cannot be disputed as one of 2007′s most corrupt politicians. Clinton had some accusations against her as well but now that the records from the Library were released, the accusations from JW have been proven to be without merit. (Remember JW is a conservative group that fueled the witch hunt against Bill.) Obama has some big accusations I have yet to hear any media vetting on so I expect that to come soon. Either the media will do their job or the RNC will do it for them.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 22, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am

@Jay: In the last 50 years would include JFK; he didn’t make the party great? There have been other good democrats in congress along the way too. Anyway, it’s a small point and I understand your argument. I don’t think the party is being destroyed by either candidate and its good to hash this stuff out now before it becomes fodder for the Republicans in the fall. Ultimately, the only people to blame for their campaign is the people running it. Both Senators Obama and Clinton have been the recipients of poor advice, but that is what happens in these things.

Posted by: MIguy | March 22, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am

WB thank you for your service.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 22, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

Pedro says “Obama believes in Change”. What kind of change? Hillary is offering Universal Health Coverage and Obama is not. Please tell me the change he intends to bring in.
Per Obama, he alone is capable of change and no one else is. How ridiculous. Every one is capable of change. Even Bush brought change. Though I feel most of Bush’s changes are bad.
I think we will lose the General Election unless Obama steps down NOW.

Posted by: Roger Miller | March 22, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am

@RM: Actually, whether you agree with him or not, what you stated actually shows that he (or his campaign managers) are actually very good tacticians. It was no small feat for him to get this far. And as Al Gore showed in 2000, the popular vote doesn’t win the Presidency. If Senator Clinton gets the nomination, she will be well-served to get some of those people helping her. By the way, these are the same folks who basically predicted the entire primary/caucus season in a leaked memo in early February.

Posted by: MIguy | March 22, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am

Matho – perceptions are valid and a significant percentage of voters said that Obama’s words made him a less favorable candidate after the speech. I happen to agree he was disrespectful to his grandmother and Ferraro in the speech and definitely disrespectful of his mother in his book. His personal demons are showing their ugly heads in his resentment of the white race. The experts who did the polling tell us that he held most of his base but is losing some of it and losing the many of the undecided voters he needed for a clear victory. These things matter in terms of electability. It appears you are part of that base of supporters he kept but this election is about the country so perceptions of other voters matter too.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 22, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am

Obama is the panacea for all the world’s ills.

Posted by: Pedro | March 22, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

WTH? I didn’t see anything “outrageous” in that comment and was seriously taken aback by claims of the Obama camp that the comment was “horrible”. I am seriously disgusted with the Obama campaign at their blatant attempt to twist words to redirect attention from the Reverend Wright fiasco. It’s sickening, and desperate.

Posted by: kathy | March 22, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am

MIguy: I actually think the money he has backing him is why he has a successful paid ground force that enabled him to take advantage of caucuses including the outcome in states like Iowa that allow people to participate by simply sayign they plan to move there. We will never know if that played a large role or not. Clinton on the other hand approached the strategy from an electability perspective with core democrats and is successful in that bid. Obama only has a portion of the core democrats (liberal latte and the black voting bloc) and some new student voters who are unreliable and some independents who are not loyal to the party. He is not electable without Clinton supporters. The numbers are looking bad now that some polling shows a significant number of Clinton supporters will crossover to vote for McCain if they have to. The majority of voters are moderates. Indies are 44% and most are not participating in the primary season. These are all factors the SDs take into account since they represent the party and the voters who did not vote in the primary season.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 22, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

@MIGuy. I agree that Obama’s guys are good tacticians and Hillary had some bad tacticians.
However, this tactic works only where delegate sharing takes place. If this was a winner take all electoral college, Hillary would win hands down because she may have already secured 253 or so electoral votes to Obama’s 205. Please don’t hold me to those numbers but they give us a rough idea.
And, the republicans will not say if two people who love their country. They will say “Please listen to Obama’s pastor Rev. Wright. Obama says he is his mentor, guide, philosopher and an uncle”. We report, you decide.
If Obama is the nominee, then let us congratulate President McCain. Obama had a chance before Rev. Wright. Now, it is hopeless for him. He wants to be the Bob Dole of democratic party. It seems winning the nomination is good enough for him. Otherwise, why would he try to stop Florida and Michigan re-vote. I am deeply disappointed with him. It is like Hillary winning the nomination and alienating the African American vote. Is that nomination worth anything? They might as well run on the Reform Party ticket like Pat Buchanan.

Posted by: Roger Miller | March 22, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am

Roger – good points, just to help on the numbers… i tracked which states each candidate won that are solid red states and did not include them. Last tally I had shows Clinton at 250+ electoral votes and Obama at 150+ electoral votes.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 22, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

Did any one notice that no one is talking about giving the VP slot to Obama. It will be political suicide for Hillary if she gives the VP slot to Obama.

Posted by: Roger Miller | March 22, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

I agree but he said he wasnt interested so she is no longer pressured to do that. I actually think that is good for her if she gets the nom because he would damage the dems in the electoral race.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 22, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am

You know Obama’s “new politics” he promises isn’t here yet so he’s in the playground with the big girls and boys-
so get over it, it’s politics. The Obama campaign didn’t get this far playing “clean” and he knows the Republicans certainly won’t be. In fact it’s best he deal with issues of patriotism and the Wright tapes now before he hits the big screen.

Posted by: alpaig | March 22, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am

hi every body, every body what is wrong with you all. All these character aserssination, name calling and insults will not bring us out from the quirgmire that we are in today, our contry is going down the drain and if we dont do some thing soon it will be too late for us and our children and generations to come, so let us move pass our difference,emotions and come together to support obama and hillary for the common good.we need obama, hillary and all their supporters to bring our nation back to good standing. go obama and hillary for President.

Posted by: ben | March 22, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am

DCVoter, Obama said he was “shaken up” by the last round of controversy. From what I hear, Hannity et al. still has a chest full of dirt on him. Irrelevant whether true or false. But if he’s already shaken up, not sure how he’s going to be after right wingers are done with him. All his backers are weak. (Kerry, Teddy, etc.)

Posted by: JerryFromSR | March 22, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am

I agree WestCoastMessenger and JerryFromSR. The endorsement from Richardson was an obvious opportunistic one of “Obama will owe me big if I can get the attention off the Wright scandal”. But it will mean little if he cant beat McCain. I dont think it will change his numbers anyway. The RNC has more dirt for sure.
ben – I understand the sentiment you have and if it were any other candidate than Obama I would agree. But the details coming out now and the racial divide tactics by the Obama camp have divided the party. I think we are Americans first and party loyalists second. As an Independent (44% of the country are Indies), my first choice is Clinton and second choice has now become McCain.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 22, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am

Richardson endorsement means only one thing. Obama got one more super. This is the same Richardson who said whoever leads the pledged delegate count should be the nominee after Ohio and Texas primaries knowing fully well that Obama will still be leading.
If Hillary can win PA big by at least 30 points, then Obama’s math will have to be re-worked.

Posted by: Roger Miller | March 22, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am

yes i besige thee, i ask of thee and i beg you all to tarry a little. set aside your fraustrations and let us all work together for the common good. i chalenge you all to forget the politics of race,gender and character assisnation but let us arise in one accord, in unity to face and solve the problems of the 21′st century. A problem that will not go away if we continue to fight one another. please my brothers and sisters our strugle is not with one another but with the forces and agents of intolrance and grid. So with a cheerful mind i ask that we bind together, because together we will move mountain and part seas and make this world a better place to live. we are all into this together and we shall overcome.

Posted by: ben | March 22, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am

WestCoastMessenger: I agree with you. Right now, Obama is radio-active. I hope some of the supers have the common sense to vote for Hillary and gain something in return. if you don’t have the presidency, what good can come out of Obama except requests to help retire the debt.

Posted by: Roger Miller | March 22, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am

To WestCostManager: I completey agree with you. All the negativism about both Obama and Clinton is only benefiting McCain!! However, keep in mind that Clinton started playing “dirty” first, with her “kitchen sink” strategy and I understand why Obama has to fight back. I hope this will stop on both camp soon, or we will be looking at McCain as the next president and NOTHING WILL CHANGE!!! It will be another Republican president after 8 years of Bush. From what I hear of Obama, he will at least attempt to unite this country. He’s been saying this from the start of his campaign. Listen to his speech in its entirety, and not just the sound bites. No one is perfect but he definitely has a gift. GO OBAMA!!

Posted by: American1 | March 22, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am

DC voter- yes i understand your fellings and i respect your chioces but i want you think about what republicans has put us through all these years, look at what has happend to our nation. Our nation is in debt our jobs are going over seas and we are fighting a war whithout end. So please i want you think again and change your mind because MCcain will continue to lead us to direction that we dont want to go, he has promised to stay in iraq as long as 100 years and thats not somehting that we can afford. You may be little bit upset at obama but remeber this, no body is perfect, yes he has his flaws,yes he is a politician, yes he has his weakness,but thats what makes him a human being. despite his shortcoming i know he will make a great president. i am an Obama suppoter but if he dosen’t make it i will go with hillary because i am tired of RNC.

Posted by: ben | March 22, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am

WestCoastMessenger – valid point on fall “races” – we all know politicians are all about getting re-elected. A lot of voters vote straight party ticket in election years. I really wish the media would have an all politics all the time channel and cover the congressional races as well as this race during election periods. They could cover other political happenings at other times. With todays technology it would be really easy.
On a different note: I ran across an article today stating the Obama camp has an observer in the Rezko trial everyday. I guess that means the Clinton camp and the RNC do as well. The star witness has been testifying in much detail so I check it everyday.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 22, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am

I have no doubt Obama will get the nomination. I also have no doubt he will lose in November.
I have never voted republican in my life, but will this year if he is indeed, the nominee. And in talking with people, I am not the only one!
Any father that allows his daughters to be brought up in such a hateful church and have to listen to that hatred each week, should not even be considered for the nomination!

Posted by: libralee | March 22, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am

ben – I am very much anti-Republican party. The dems are still likely to gain power in Congress. This is a good thing of course. No matter who wins the WH, they must have a cooperative Congress to get anything done. Carter was a good example of NOT getting things done. Let’s assume each of them has a shot at the WH.
Obama is not well-liked in Congress and has a spending plan that will never fly with them. That would make him another Carter. He admittedly plans to increase personal taxes and an assessment done by experts show it would double personal and capital gains taxes. The Congress is never going to pass that so his big plans for change wont likely become reality. His naivete on foreign policy might plunge us into a 3rd front war.
McCain is a moderate who does work as a bipartisan. Some of his current platform includes the same things the dems want. He is a hawk but the dem Congress can keep him in check and prevent too much damage from the republican party. Advisors will keep his ranting in check as well. He is not so stupid that he will go against the military advisors who appear to be leaning towards a phased redeployment to go after Bin Laden.
Clinton is well liked in Congress and respected by most members of the rep party. She embraces bipartisanship without sacrificing the needs of the people. Her vote and actions with regards to military matters is backed by over 25 flag officers and Murtha (most powerful dem in Congress and strongest opponent of the Iraq war). Her plans are all paid for without increasing taxes and actually will save money and return to fiscal responsibility we had in the 90′s. I believe she would return us to prosperity and a nation of peace using military action as a last resort.
So you see, it is not blind opposition to Obama. It is a well-thought out reasoning as an Independent American. With Obama’s losing trend and unelectability now, if he gets the nom, McCain will win. If Clinton gets the nom, we have a shot at her winning. If she loses we get McCain. But if we focus on electing a dem Congress we may be ok until 2012 for another Clinton run.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 22, 2008, 3:43 am 3:43 am

Bill Clinton is getting old, the DNC should take his membership away from him.

Posted by: demos | March 22, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am

Hey I am an Obama supporter and I didn;t read that understanding into the comment when I saw it on paper.
I am wondering about the fact that Obama is now showing that he can play the game. In the political arena he is brilliant. I am not mad at him for playing calmly and tactifully by the same rules Clintons usually do. Innocent statement or not its what we have come to expect of the Clinton campaigns historically.
Now this adds a more seasoned political side of him and I like him even more. This is turning more and more into a war. I guess you Obama haters would all rather he just lay down and roll over…
Like any typical black man would do when faced with responsibility…
He is trying to do whatever he can to get into office because he knows he has great ideas and can change the direction our country is currently headed. He is a politician. He is ambitious. He is determined. He is savvy. He is intelligent. He is young. He is energetic. He is inspiring. He is a whole lot of things but dont forget. This isnt American Idol. He is playing with the same established rules. He is the new kid on the block. Cut him some slack. He is learning as he goes along what is obviously acceptable…
Clinton and Bush…great teachers…

Posted by: bwar | March 22, 2008, 4:02 am 4:02 am

you guys really like to be inflammatory….yawn.

Posted by: tony | March 22, 2008, 4:16 am 4:16 am

The Clintons are messing up the party. They need to step aside. America is getting tired of it.

Posted by: Joe | March 22, 2008, 6:06 am 6:06 am

You know what, don’t even tell me that Obama is the only one who has had aides that have made stupid statements before they thought about them first. This is a very close race and EVERYTHING is really being played up in the media… that is really not fair for anyone. How are you supposed to run for basicly two years with a huge group of people and not expect some of them to make mistakes… Look Hillary has made stupid statements, Obama has made stupid comments, McCain has made stupid comments. STOP judging these people like they don’t make mistakes.. they are freaking human! Don’t feed the frenzy the media wants you to play into… their ratings are up, they LOVE all of this petty stuff.

Posted by: Matt | March 22, 2008, 6:09 am 6:09 am

Obama is the Kareoke Candidate. He presents well but every note is borrowed and his sound is the sound of overamplified overprocessed machinery.
The problem is kareoke and disco became popular for the same reason: people with no talent and no discipline could pretend to be dancers and singers. As an old band mate of mine put it, ‘it is the audience as the stars instead of the professionals’.
Populism succeeds in elections. It simply cannot govern. If we elect this man, we’ll go from a ruthless DJ who only spins what he likes to amateur singers who can stay on message.
Meanwhile, the sucking sound in the background is our economy being flushed to a syncopated beat with blues notes.

Posted by: len | March 22, 2008, 7:19 am 7:19 am

Obama Loves himself, his religion, and many other things, than his country.
Evident By his actions, deeds and what he stands for.
If he loved American he would not of lied to the people of America so many times, In public media and to the world.
He would not run around condeming his governement and blaming eveything on it. When he is a US Senator, and does not do his job, and not accept the fact that he is part of that government, and has spent his entire time as Senator, preparing to run for president.
Failing to do is job, then wanting to move higher.

Posted by: seah | March 22, 2008, 7:37 am 7:37 am

Obama is a master of spin and twisting words to suit his own agenda. I don’t get it when people say he’s special and a uniter, I see the opposite. My friends and family, all Democrats will vote for McCain if he get’s the nomination, in fact most are changing party affiliation because the party is hell bent on pushing Obama in our faces.

Posted by: Jacko | March 22, 2008, 7:39 am 7:39 am

Obama Camp Paranoid On Patriotism Issue?

Obama aid slams ‘outrageous’ Bill Clinton remark from Political Radar reports that the co-chair of the Obama campaign, General McPeak, called remarks casting indirect aspersions on Senator Obama’s patriotism as McCarthyism. The Clinton camp demurred th…

Posted by: PAXALLES | March 22, 2008, 7:52 am 7:52 am

I really am so sick of the whole nature of the Barack Obama campaign. Nobody can say or do anything without it being obliquely interpreted as racist or underhand in some way. We’re not supposed to question Obama on his relationship with his Pastor. We’re not supposed to question Obama on the purchase of his Chicago mansion with Tony Rezko. We’re not supposed to mention that Obama is quite happy to take the support of known anti-semetics.
Why can’t Obama simply address the issues that are put to him rather than complaining about facing them at all? Why does Obama always attack the right of someone to ask a question? Even when that question, or statement in this case, is completely innocuous, why is the Obama campaign all too ready to take offence?
Obama is black. Big deal. That doesn’t mean he isn’t to be scrutinized like ANY OTHER CANDIDATE. That doesn’t mean he has to construe offense when there is clearly none intended. I know it wasn’t him who has commented on Clinton’s remarks, but I am actually beginning to think that he has some sort of personality issue.
Its just a shame – people are being hoodwinked into Obama’s spin of a ‘new kind of politics’. What he really means is a kind of politics where he is above question or reproach. Wake up America!

Posted by: Mark | March 22, 2008, 8:01 am 8:01 am

Interesting, Why are the obama people so defensive about any kind of patriotic remark? If the non-flag wearing, non-hand to heart, G_D_America show fits it must be Obama’s

Posted by: geevill | March 22, 2008, 8:02 am 8:02 am

And for the record, I am a democrat but will run to the polling booth to vote for McCain if Obama is the nomination!

Posted by: Mark | March 22, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am

No one in their right mind would vote for this idiot. Change…Change…blah blah. I like this country the way it is, and I refuse to listen to your dictation regarding politics. MLK was a great man, you are not!

Posted by: Randolph | March 22, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am

And the whining continues.
I have never in my life seen a polital campaign so childish.
The boy who cried wolf routine is getting so tired.
It’s like kindergarden when the children complain that someone said something mean about them all the time.
This political ploy is getting tired, very tired. It’s time for all the adults out there to say enough already.

Posted by: s.b. | March 22, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am

I don’t get what was so offensive about the statement….what was offensive was when the Obama camp said Hillary was “deeply flawed.” Now that’s cruel, offensive and extremely personal. People want to talk about the economy and real problems. That was the simple point. To talk about McCarthy and president Clinton in the same sentence is getting “silly” as Obama likes to say.

Posted by: raf | March 22, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am

Someone earlier on this post said Obama was the most courageous man. People were saying his speech Tuesday was courageous. Well I have news for you all, he is anything but courageous. Had he stood up for the people of his church, had he stood up for his wife and children, had he stood up for the “rich white people” of America that would have taken courage. He sat passively and did nothing. That is being a coward. His lack of action both in his private life and his political life is very telling about what kind of of a leader this man is.
For those keeping track – I too will go to McCain if Hillary doesn’t get the nomination. No one is going to question his courage. And yes, I am a registered democrate and have ALWAYS voted for a dem president. At this point, following Obama seems more “insane,” Damon.

Posted by: Jeff | March 22, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am

Damon, you ask: “How on Earth could you be true democrats and vote for what the RNC stand for”
The answer is: Obama’s divisive campaign while pretending he’s a uniter, and the accompanying disgusting attacks on Hillary and Bill Clinton, Big Media SEXISM in keeping out any positive news about Hillary, and Howard Dean/DNC disenfranchising Florida and Michigan voters.
Obama’s campaign is destroying the Democratic party, and making the Republicans look good.
Perhaps that is his goal, given his close association with Wright. God Damn America, if I don’t win.

Posted by: Anne-Marie | March 22, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

AnneMarie, you still haven’t answered the question. All you phoney democrats who’ll be voting in another right wing republican are not true democrats at all! You’re all closet republicans who want to continue this country’s downward spiral. If you truely believe what the RNC stands for, just say so and stop the obfuscation about Wright and what he said, last time I checked he wasn’t running for anything.

Posted by: Damon | March 22, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am

Obama honestly should be given credit for campaigning and defeating two strong and well known people, the clintons.

Posted by: val | March 22, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am

DEMS IS TOTALLY DIVIDED AND WILL CONTINUE BE DIVIDED.REPBUBLICANS WILL WIN THIS GE AND WILL TAKE US INTO WRONG DIRECTION.WHICH WILL BE WORSE THAN BUSH ADMINTRATION. MARK MY WORD.

Posted by: I.A.T Smith | March 22, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am

This is billy boy getting away with his bull again he is the dirtiness presidents …He thinks he is above the law what he says and who he says it to is OK for he is Bill Clinton.Some years from now all our childern will learn the truth about the two of them,wish I would be here to see it.People who can nail them to the walls are dead….GEEEEES

Posted by: h | March 22, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am

I did not hear any outrage from the Obama camp when his wife said that “America is a mean country”. or that for the first time in her life she is proud of American.
I did hear any outrage from Obama when his pastor was telling everyone god dam America, as a matter of fact he casually dismissed that as the rantings of an old uncle.
Now there is a outrage from the Obama camp at what Bill said? I think the Obama camp needs to understand that people are just tired now of their false crying, the public is now beginning to understand what Obama stands for, and people are really starting to get sick of these guys and their constant belly aching, I just don’t know when Obama will wake up and get it.

Posted by: SJ | March 22, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am

“Someone earlier on this post said Obama was the most courageous man. People were saying his speech Tuesday was courageous.”
It was courageous. People were telling him the more politically safe route was to condemn Wright and move on. He chose otherwise.
“Well I have news for you all, he is anything but courageous. Had he stood up for the people of his church, had he stood up for his wife and children, had he stood up for the “rich white people” of America that would have taken courage.”
Did you even research the context to what Rev. Wright was saying? You must get your information from FOX news.
“He sat passively and did nothing.”
On what day?
“That is being a coward. His lack of action both in his private life and his political life is very telling about what kind of of a leader this man is.”
So, who do we vote for? Whom do we know, running for president, is without controversy?
“For those keeping track – I too will go to McCain if Hillary doesn’t get the nomination.”
How about we meet in the middle. I like Nader as a choice over Hillary.
“No one is going to question his courage.”
Wanna bet? You think his Rev is any better? You think McCain doesnt have sordid bedfellows? LOL. RESEARCH. or is that sooooo hard in todays age. There is something called the internet. But, I guess, you’d have to desire to look for the truth.
“And yes, I am a registered democrate and have ALWAYS voted for a dem president. At this point, following Obama seems more “insane,” Damon.”
You obviously are not. You would find, voting for a Rep in this crucial time, would be detrimental, at best.
But, hey, I don’t think either candidate can win the G.E. at this point. Better luck 4 years from now, maybe.

Posted by: Will | March 22, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am

No, I don’t consider myself a closet repub, if I believed in them I’d simply register and support them.
I’m very disappointed in the dem party this year. We started off so strong and it should have been a very strong and easy victory. Our leadership has been miserable, not only Howard Dean but our elected dems that clearly have drawn a line in the sand and have chosen a side. This would have been a good year for all of them to remain neutral. The party is splitting and they are standing on their respective sides watching it happen. Yes, I’m talking about the Kennedys, Kerry, etc. I am one that believes in rules and enforcing them, but this whole Michican Florida thing is so wrong in every aspect. Blame whichever “leaders” you want, those citizens have a right to be able to have their votes counted. And, I would be saying this no matter which candidate stood to gain from it. This is America.
So maybe I’m not thinking like a “true” dem this year because I’m embarrassed (again) by our lack of direction. There is so much in-fighting and so little leadership going on. I’ve decided I’m going to vote for the candidate that I feel would be the best leader and right now Obama is the last one I’d pick. Maybe I have become a little insane by all of this.

Posted by: Jeff | March 22, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

I am democrat and will vote for McCain if Obama wins the nomination

Posted by: Nino | March 22, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

I am just a “typical democrat” that will not vote for Obama no matter what, just like his grandmother the typical side of me tells me to be very cautious of him, so I will hold on to my typical vote if he gets the nomination.

Posted by: SJ | March 22, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

Oh my God! Can you believe that Bill Clinton said:
“I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country, and people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics.”
And why would the Obama camp think this was against them? He loves this country, doesn’t he?

Posted by: lois | March 22, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

Even if Bill didn’t say what Obama camp says he said, watching the differences in the two camps, I believe the Clintons are patriotic, and I have my doubts about Obama since there is a BIG gap between Obama’s talk and his actions. To me, actions always speak louder. Bill Clinton has thrown out people who shout 9/11 was an inside job. Obama views the person saying such offensive things as member of his family, as his spiritual advisor / surrogate father / paster who got him married and baptised his children – someone he cannot disown!

Posted by: Unashamed_Independent | March 22, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Obama is dividing the American public. Bill Clinton is right on. His statement is innocent and correct. He is attacked by Obama. This has been going on for a year now but Obama was getting away with it more. Now people are beginning to notice. I have noticed it for a long time.
Obama does not unite. Obama is causing a racial civil war. If Obama keeps this up there will be fires and riots in the inner cities like in 1968. This campaign is terrible.
I am being forced to vote Republican for the first time in my life. I have been a loyal Democrat since 1952 with Stevenson. I am so disappointed in Obama. He is all talk and a hypocrit.

Posted by: DemocratForever | March 22, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Do any of you understand the McCarthy reference? It would appear not.

Posted by: Sara | March 22, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

Bill who?
McCarthy was right anyway. Get over it.

Posted by: Rusty | March 22, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

As always, Bill Clinton knows exactly what he is saying. Hey, I voted for him twice and glad I did but you don’t have to read anything into this statement. It’s right there. South Carolina showed me what the Clintons are capable of saying and doing when they are backed into a corner. This is still a matter of them putting their aspirations for power and accomplishment above the needs of America and the Democratic party.

Posted by: TSnow27604 | March 22, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

OMG… Obama and his staff have gone totally paranoid…. I keep reading the statement Bill made and I see absolutely NOTHING wrong with it! He is NOT implying that Obama does not love his country. He’s just presenting 2 scenarios: 1) where you have 2 candidates who love their country and talk about the issues and 2) all the bickering. What’s he’s saying is that the fist scenario is the ideal, preferred one….
“I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country, and people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics.”

Posted by: Stewie Griffin | March 22, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am

Mr. Obama is by far the most presidential candidate I have listened to in decades. We certainly DO NOT need a posturing macho military man who will bump chests with every leader we do not see eye to eye with. We DO NEED a diplomat unlike the USA has EVER had and we need him FAST! We need someone who can bring leaders the current administration FEARS to the table and can calm the situations and the tensions internationally. There is not a GOP alive with this ability. Hilary (to me) is far too GOP for me. Just look at her crowd, the same phony flag pin wearing crowds that surrounded the GOP…

Posted by: RW | March 22, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am

Of course Obama wants a unified country for him to rule as President. However, everything he does divides the country. He insults all white women by throwing his white grandmother under the bus to save his black preacher who hates America. We now see why his wife Michelle has never felt proud of America. She listens to hatred for America every Sunday in church.

Posted by: DemocratForever | March 22, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am

HHHMMM, let me see if I get this straight. OBAMA has had one of the most unpleasant weeks of his campaign, he was called a racist, everything that came out of his mouth has been disected, Hilary Clinton says that his failuer to come to terms with the Michigan vote is “unamerican” then Bill Clinton says that only hilary and mccain only love the country enough to be president. And people think he is whining. People just don’tget it.These comments in this blog must be written to those lunch bucket democrats or rather tjose who don’t get it.

Posted by: denise | March 22, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am

LOIS, LOIS, LOIS-
“Oh my God! Can you believe that Bill Clinton said:
“I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country, and people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics.”
And why would the Obama camp think this was against them? He loves this country, doesn’t he?

As always, people are getting a smidgen of the story. You might want to look up the full text of the speech where he mentions only a Hillary and McCain ticket would provide this scenario. He implies, very heavily, that only Hillary and McCain love this country. The responses to this issue is evidence that people are unable to verify an issue on their own. We have the INTERNET people, use it!
I think the author of this blog does a disservice by not presenting the context of the snippet given. But, really, it’s the readers responsibilty to research.

Posted by: Will | March 22, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am

What use to be the “Democratic Party” is now called the “Old Hens Party”. Blog a little hear, Blog a little there, Blog a little every where. Hillery sure has made a mess of things with her Bloggers.

Posted by: Thomas | March 22, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

Isn’t it the truth?
Hillary and John McCain love this country!

Posted by: Kim | March 22, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

Democrats going for the throat, maligning, slandering, spinning, What a shock! LOLOL

Posted by: Bill D. | March 22, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

If you listen to the full speech of clinton he did say mccain name so everyone new he was talking about obama hillary i beg you to drop out and put your support behind barack but oh its the clintons she may get mad and through her support behind mccain thats how evil she is
obama 08

Posted by: chae | March 22, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am

The guilty flee where no man persueth.
As I heard Bill’s comment he meant that we had two candidates like that and instead we are discussing all this other stuff.

Posted by: Jane | March 22, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am

If Obama would have the 9/11 pin,
if he would have saluted the US flag ,
If he would not listen to Rev. Wright’s God damn America comments
If Obama ‘s wife wouldn’t have said for the first time of her life she was proud to be American
If obama wouldn’t have supported Palestine and Hamas
Than he would have a legidemete claim!
But I think it is the truth!I don’t think Bill clinton had to remind me that! We already know

Posted by: Sam | March 22, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

Obama may get the nomination but he is going to be defeated in Nov. I will not be surprised if Hillary’s supporters vote for McCain.

Posted by: Vand | March 22, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

But Will,
Obama loves this country, doesn’t he?

Posted by: lois | March 22, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

This is THE Obama strategy to read more into things so they can slander people. They want to win by slander. Obama has learned to slander from Jeremiah Wright what else can Americans expect??

Posted by: Voter | March 22, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

All can see here is the ignorance of many many people. You must all see this for just what it is politics. One comment was if Obama won the democrat nomination they would vote for McCain the another stated that Obama was the racist, Bill Clinton did nothing wrong he just spoke his mind like Rev. Wright. Bottom line we are in a war that is wrong, our economy is all but washed up and we have crime that is almost unstoppable. What are we trying to do about it. I would bet that the majority of these comments are written by whites and the irony of all of this is that the African American people are not the one’s hurting – reality – whites have and are losing much much more, houses in foreclosure, 401k plans wiped out- these things don’t affect minorities as much as they are not afforded homes of significance and saving is virtually impossible-so who is losing what. Wake up people – before there is nothing left.

Posted by: pcassie1202 | March 22, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

I demand Hillary and Bill to leave the Democratic Party and run as bi-partisan!
Because the DNC was not fair to them FL and MI was taken out to hand over the election to Obama! Now the DNC is working hard to short circuit the convention! I refuse Hillary to endorse Obama and ask her supporters to donate and work for Obama! NO WE WON’T!
HILLARY RUN AS BI PARTISAN INDEPENDANT

Posted by: pam | March 22, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

I know the Draft Dodger Bill Clinton isn’t questioning anyone’s patriotism, atleast the rest of served when called.

Posted by: Tony | March 22, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

What Bill Clinton was really saying is that the issues are not getting the imporatance that they should. Obama’s stupid fawning of Jeremiah Wright got so much air time this past week. People should begin to talk about issues — the real issues of America. I imagine Obama continues to want negative airtime to side step talking about the real issues. Here he had a real opportunity to say – Yes that is absolutely correct — it is so important to talk about issues but Obama the person that he is does not know to talk about issues and so he stoops to slander.

Posted by: Voter | March 22, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

Business as usual. One political hack tries to make something out of nothing coming from the other side. They all do this. Then the press covers it and no wonder it’s never about the issues anymore. What slays me though are the die hards continuing to hang in there and swear it’s alllll the Clinton’s on the race thing. Guys, it’s Obama too. You know, the guy saying to move past race? While he uses it himself???

Posted by: Sandra | March 22, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Speaking of faith…and lack of it I wonder how short a leash Mrs. McCain and his handlers have on John. Not that most 70 year old men would want to spend time with an attractive, intelligent woman half his age. That’s just outrageous. Yeah, it’s interesting how the Clinton’s language is that of a Clinton – McCain ticket, rather than a Clinton vs. McCain election. In either case I’m sure Mrs. C and Mrs. M both have a lot to talk about when it comes to their faith in their husbands. Of course Willy would just call that one of those other issues.

Posted by: Tony Apollinaro | March 22, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

Voter – It wasn’t exactly Obama’s choice to spend the week talking about Wright. But not only did he give a major address on race because of that (an important one of those “issues”), but two days later gave a major policy speech on Iraq. HE is talking about issues; why aren’t YOU?

Posted by: jock59801 | March 22, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am

I am so sick of the Clintons and their lies and dishonesty!
Hillary, why don’t you do the country a favor and quit the race. There is no way you can win, so face the facts and quit.
Obama is about change and transparency and you’re about catering to lobbyists etc.

Posted by: David in Atlanta | March 22, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Why is Obama being Judge for what his Pastor Said? Obama is running for President not his Pastor. Obama Should be Judge for his own Personal Statements, Action and Deeds. Obama is not perfect He who has no friend and acquaintances that say things and do things you don’t agree with let him cast the first stone. The media has smeared a man that has inspired a nation to hope and come together. It seems there is a conspiracy in the media to smear Obama at any cost. For What Reason? And Who Would Gain the Most From this Smear Campaign? Who would have thought that a presidential candidate would be judged by his Pastor Statements or for that matter what anyone that he knows might have said or didn’t say.

Posted by: Another Ron | March 22, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

I was in the Pentagon when Tony McPeak was CSAF. Believe me , discard what ever he says on any subject. He was genuinely disliked in the AF and his participation on the Obama team should be enough to discredit Obama’s compaign.

Posted by: reciprcal77 | March 22, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

I am a WHITE, EDUCATED VOTER WHO WOULDN’T VOTE FOR OBAMA IF YOU PAID ME TO. It is Obama who has been playing the race card in this election, and I am quite sick of it. OBAMA NEEDS TO GO HOME TO HIS “UNCLE” JEREMIAH AND CALL IT A DAY. President Clinton is one of the best Presidents we ever had, and his personal life was and is no one’s business but his own. That is between Hillary and him, and is no reflection on his ability to do his job, which he obviously did quite well, since he had the highest approval rating of any outgoing president ever. Bush will have the lowest, I’m sure.

Posted by: Anita Baker | March 22, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Way to go! Whatever you think about Bill. he is on target. The Obama folks can not handle anything. First it is that she has a character flaw ( just when we find out about his connections, that he never spoke the words, he never heard, in a place he wasn’t). Now he claims that Bill said something wrong (when we know he refuses to wear a flag lapel pin, turns his back to the flag, tolerates “God Damn America” statements in his presence without comment, ect.) and is upset about not being included in the lineup of supporters of the US. Thought that’s what he wanted. Oh, well.

Posted by: BYme2 | March 22, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

Hillary is on tape saying the Florida and Michigan delegates wouldn’t count and now that she’s traling in delegates, she want them to count. She’s a liar and can not be trusted.
I use to have a little respect for Bill and Hillary until recently.

Posted by: David in Atlanta | March 22, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

Notice the pattern by the Obama surrogates. Obama hides while his surrogates go on the attack. In my view, this will do nothing to remove the attention focused on Obama with respect to his association with the reverend and his inflammatory language directed at the United States of America. We are now months into the process and no longer have to say, Fool me twice, shame on me.

Posted by: benvictor | March 22, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

Why is Obama camp is so desperate? Are they afraid of the following primaries?
If you have guts play till the end. Hillary has all the right to stay in the race. Moreover FL and MI voters need to be heard.
In anycase even if Obama is nominated, he cannot beat McCain. Real Americans will unite to block Obama.

Posted by: GS | March 22, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

The aging star, of a previous Political setting is now trying to reinvent himself.

Posted by: Thomas | March 22, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

As much as I like Bill Clinton, it is hard to give him the benefit of the doubt on stuff like this. More than anyone, who knows EXACTLY what he is saying, and chooses his words very carefully. He must have seen that this could be taken in that negative way, but could also be defended as seemingly innocent at the same time. Well, that’s how the game is played, and Bill Clinton is the master.

Posted by: jock59801 | March 22, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

Hey Anita, you need to be reminded it is Hillary running, not Bill. Also, don’t you think Americans want to know why would Hill stay married to this meandering, unfaithful bag of hormones? Even after several, public and corroborated acts of infidelity, she ‘stands by her man’! What a terrible message this sends women and girls in America about accepting infidelity. And this is the first woman to lead the nation? Please.

Posted by: Tony Apollinaro | March 22, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

Bill as usual meant exactly what he said. He siad only Hillary loved America. What a farse. Bil and Hillary think adultry is OK. They have no morals and will say anything to win a political race. Didn’t eight years show us that. Too bad that they didn’t get a movie of Hillary being shot at in foreigh countries like she claims. Wake up. They both lie all of the time. Obama needs to grow up too. If he wants to lead my country he leaves peole alone tat preach what his pastor does. That chruch is not a religious church.

Posted by: Fred | March 22, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

Yeah I agree, Shut Up Bill, This clown don’t need any addition help showing why he should not be president. His preacher does a fine job of that.

Posted by: Fiestycrow | March 22, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

Bill would do anything to get back into the WH, even as first gentleman (sic!!! big time sic!!!).
To top off this comment, which coming from anyone else might have been innocent, but bill is way too savvy, the Clinton rep brought up the Wright thing in rebuttal — thought they were committed to not doing that.
AS IF, Hillary isn’t bringing her own baggage into the general election (if she steals the nomination).
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

Posted by: Jackt51 | March 22, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

There Bill goes again – the master of innuendo and then denying that is what he meant. I started the campaign as a big supporter of the Clintons but I now know what they stand for – simply themselves. They have lost a longtime supporter as a result of their innuendos and deceit. They have attempted to appeal to the worse in people with their win at any cost approach. The country has had enough of that. I will now vote for Obama. Bill you have lost another vote for Hillary.

Posted by: bob | March 22, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

The Democratic Party lost Lieberman, now they are about to loose Bill and Hillary!
They don’t deserve good people!
If I were Hillary, I’d run independant!
And probably that will be the begining of a 3rd party!
The entire world have left middle and right , Only in our country we have right and left!
That is the real problem !
McCain is not the right wing and Hillary is not the left wing the are both in the middle

Posted by: Andy | March 22, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

No twisting or spinning is going to change the fact that Mr. Obama sat and listened to anti-American hate for 20yrs. Makes one wonder if this kind of hate preaching is going on in other black churchs. If is God help us racisim will never end. Think of the children of the next generation. Mr. Obama exposed his children to hate filled sermons.

Posted by: patti d | March 22, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

The bottom line is Obama sat through 20 years of hatred sermons from Pastor Wright. There is no way I or most “typical white people” would have sat through sermons of hate as he did.

Posted by: lois | March 22, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

A person implies you don’t love your country and you are to just sit back and ignore it? A few things I am certain about.
The media owns you. With the relative ease provided by the internet, one with an ounce of personal dignity would research, find the truth about any particular issue. However, you get a snippet, and you believe thats the end-all on this issue.
For those that are genuine in wanting the best for this country, or at least fair in your analysis…please look up the Clinton remark in its entirety. Or at least the info leading into the quoted remark and the info after.
I was certain before this, a black-white man would never be president in this country and I am certain now a black-white man will never be president in this country.
Why Michelle claims she is proud of this country, I don’t know.

Posted by: Will | March 22, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

OK add me in to the “Democrat voting for McCain if Obama is the nominee” masses.
The pro-Obama Howard Dean deliberately is not allowing Florida to re-vote with the approval of the Obama campaign. According the latest Rasmussen Poll released a week ago if Florida re-voted Hillary would win by a 17 point margin.
YOU KNOW HOW EASY IT WOULD BE TO LET FLORIDA RE-VOTE??? THERE IS A STATEWIDE ELECTION ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR JUN 24. IT WOULD COST NOTHING TO ADD THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY TO IT.
YOU KNOW WHAT DEAN IS SAYING??? THAT “IT IS PAST THE JUN 11 DEADLINE FOR ALL ELECTIONS DO BE FINISHED.”
SO WHAT DEAN? THE CONVENTION IS NOT UNTIL 3 MONTHS AWAY SO WAITING TWO MORE WEEKS IS NO BIG DEAL!!
Can anyone else see that Dean is allowing the disenfranchising of millions to ensure Obama is the nominee?
I despise Obama.

Posted by: libby | March 22, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

The Clintons are very smart – and – very clever at selective language. I don’t really think either of them are racist. What I do think is that they have little respect for voters and will suggest anything they think will work to get them elected. Reality is alot of people are ‘worried’ about what black people expect from this election and are ‘resentful’ about perceived misdeeds by black. Clinton’s remark that Obama wasn’t a Muslim as far as she knew was truly sad – she knows very well how many people will bolt at the slightest suggestion someone might be a Muslim. She herself said she wasn’t worried about offending voters because they have short memories. I will certainly remember that.

Posted by: voting citizen | March 22, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

When the Obama has nothing more to talk about than it’s own candidate referring to a “typical white person” and how they are “bred,” they resort to trying to misinterpret what Bill Clinton says.
Everyone needs to recognize an ill-conceived and futile attempt to shift attention from the hateful, racist, and treasonist message of Jeremiah Wright, Barak Obama’s spiritual advisor and “old uncle.”
Sorry, General McPeak. You are not in the military anymore, and you do not command acceptance of your opinion among the troops. Get a new day job, General. We don’t salute!

Posted by: Ken | March 22, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

“The bottom line is Obama sat through 20 years of hatred sermons from Pastor Wright.”
If you researched the speech, you might think otherwise. But, that would require more work then just getting your information from snippets.
“There is no way I or most “typical white people” would have sat through sermons of hate as he did.”
I have a list of many things “typical white people” sit through. What year would you like me to start at? Is reverse chronological order sufficient?

Posted by: Will | March 22, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

Typical Obama…divert, divert, divert from real issues. Funny how the Richardson thing yesterday and grasping at another straw to twist an opponent’s words comes the same week he is trying to evade questions as to why he sat in his hateful minister’s church for 20 years. By the way, how many of you who keep throwing up Bill’s past are without sin? I’m betting very few, so at least come up with real reasons if you must hate someone. Oh, I forgot, as evidenced by Rev. Wright’s sermons, if you support Obama, it is ok to hate people though isn’t it?

Posted by: DWC | March 22, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

I’ve been reading most of these comments and as a Democrat I feel sick.
One thing is clear to me: A good portion of Hillary’s supporters will not vote for Obama should he become the nominee. A good portion of Obama’s supporters will not vote for Hillary should she become the nominee.
Everyone reset your “Bush’s Last Day Calendar” ahead by 4 years because McCain is going to win if we don’t stop all this nonsense.
It breaks my heart to see so much hate within this party. Of course we will disagree but why can’t people be respectful of one another?
I can’t believe Democrats think McCain would be better for this country than either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama. Really? Are you serious? Do you really not care about ending this war? Do you really not care about the ecomony? Do you really not care about health care?
Dems, please STOP this insanity. I will personally put the good of my country ahead of my own personal desires and vote for either candidate because both are far better than McCain.

Posted by: so discouraged | March 22, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

Why Would anyone want a rerun of Bill and Hilary Clinton as Prsident? Remember the Scandals High Taxes, The Nafta affect of Thousands of Jobs Lost and Pain this country went Through for the Bad Choices and Decision they Made. President Bush is still trying to clean up the mess Clinton Made.

Posted by: Another Ron | March 22, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

I can’t wait for the Pennsylvania primary. I wonder how Obama will spin a loss of 15 to 20 points.

Posted by: sitting1 | March 22, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

If you can’t take the heat..get out of the kitchen Obama! If the Obama camp calls foul over this after all the recent flap and flip flop, he’s just a big cry baby. Maybe he thinks he should get the nomination BECAUSE he’s black. I really don’t care if he’s green with purple polka dots, if he’s the nomination for the Democratic Party he ain’t heard nothin’ yet! His comments his wife’s, combined with “reverend” Wright are a field day for the Republicans. They’re NOT going to handle him with kid gloves. Then when he cries, no one will hear. If he’s the nominee, we’ll have John McCain for president. Obama may have wanted to rally black support, and he has, but he’s forgotten he also needs the “typical white folks” also to win the presidency.

Posted by: Texas Lil | March 22, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

Ok, here we go again. Obama is desperate for any kind of distraction. Just remember, he is above taking things out of context and running a dirty campaign. He says we need to rise above racism, but when it benefits him, he aggressively attacks Bill Clinton and Ferraro for their rather benign comments. It is ok because he will clear up all the contradictions with a speech.

Posted by: greenfun | March 22, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

Regardless of who becomes POTUS, with these three as our only choices we are all screwed no matter what. I just hope there is a shred of American left in 2012.

Posted by: ruintuit | March 22, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

Honest I did not see anything in Clinton speech that was out of hand, all he said was that he wished at some point in american we could hold a election that was about what America People needed and wanted, not about Issues that divided , You know he didn’t say Obama is a typical Black man playing on the guilts of white and the angry of Black people to get votes,and he could have, and in doing so be justified by Obama own statement,

Posted by: ATYPICALWHITEWOMAN | March 22, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

Obama and his campaign are the true dividers. After the grandmother “typical white person” comments, I will vote Republican in November if Obama is the nominee. He now only inspires me to do something I have never ever done in thirty years -vote for a Republican!
I AM A TYPICAL WHITE PERSON AND MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN TOO!!!

Posted by: Sol | March 22, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

Oboma polotic as usual? I take it “Jessie Jackson CARRIED S.C. as well”
just old polotics or how about “Does he mean what he says” or how about “I was against NAFT” or better yet “does anyone see if he was a white man” when do we seek our better conciousness or even our worse of side within us and try to be better then what is just giving by a government of the old. Fear does work, the Clinton’s and the Republican has proven it. But it up to us white, black and brown to notice we are diff and yes we are all patriotic in our own right and all are people of a God. Ignerance is denyle, Inteligence is a state of mind ya’ll…

Posted by: Kiem | March 22, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

Obama & his campaign spend all their time trying to twist words & make the other candidates look bad. I’m so tired of his whining. Did you all catch it yesterday when his campaign tried to say that Hillary was responsible for the Visa files being looked at, right up until it was discovered that hers were looked at too. They are always throwing mud & hoping it will stick.

Posted by: kristina | March 22, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

All of you Clinton Lovers should read the CNN Report “Schedule tracks first lady during Lewinsky affair”. Then tell us how much you love them.

Posted by: Thomas | March 22, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

Obama and all of his campaign people are nothing but a bunch of whiners. If hillary says something he whines and if bill says something he whines no matter who says anything they all whine. What is with this guy and his people anyway. Who is richardson trying to full does he really think that it is fair for the rest of the states not to vote. Fl and MI need to count we are not in another country where people cheat we are in the United States of America for Gods sakes do it right. We are soppose to be the example for the rest of the nation. You all are acting like three year olds instead of actin like the briliant leaders that you all are You all need to stand up for what is right and let those states be counted and do away with all those rules that you all have. Please open your eyes and see the light. Bill Richardson don’t make other people do what you want it is not right didn’t you learn anything from Bush!

Posted by: gloria | March 22, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Why is Obama being Judge for what his Pastor Said? Obama is running for President not his Pastor. Obama Should be Judge for his own Personal Statements, Action and Deeds. Obama is not perfect He who has no friend and acquaintances that say things and do things you don’t agree with let him cast the first stone. The media has smeared a man that has inspired a nation to hope and come together. It seems there is a conspiracy in the media to smear Obama at any cost. For What Reason? And Who Would Gain the Most From this Smear Campaign? Who would have thought that a presidential candidate would be judged by his Pastor Statements or for that matter what anyone that he knows might have said or didn’t say.

Posted by: Another Ron | March 22, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Sorry Will, Say what you want, but this “typical white person” would NEVER sit through that hatred or any hatred towards America or other races or gender!

Posted by: lois | March 22, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

This is just a snippet. Those only 2 people he was talking about that love their country were….Clinton and McCain. So, I can see why McPeak said it was “outrageous”.

Posted by: pinky | March 22, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am

I’m not a big fan of Bill Clinton, who has damaged Hillary’s campaign almost beyond repair. HOWEVER, there is nothing “outrageous” about the statement which has upset BHO. We ARE judged by the company we keep, and 20 years of association with Jeremiah Wright, who is somewhere between violently anti-American and a madman (watch his video!), makes me very afraid of Obama. His wife Michele has already made mild anti-American statements, but now the cat is out of the bag. My wife and I planned to vote for Obama two months ago, but not now. Our first choice is Hillary Clinton and our second choice (very close) is Old Man McCain. Obama and his “buddies” are far too dangerous.

Posted by: Rhys | March 22, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am

“I can’t wait for the Pennsylvania primary. I wonder how Obama will spin a loss of 15 to 20 points.”
Whats funny is, he would still be in the lead after a 30 point loss. LOL.
Even funnier, all the people saying…”If Obama cant take the heat, stay out the kitchen…blah blah blah.” I didnt hear any complaints when Hillary said “Shame on you, Obama” in reference to some mailouts. And, Obama was telling the truth.

Posted by: Will | March 22, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am

Ok, let’s judge Obama for his own racist statements not his pastor’s. Quote – “typical white people”. Enough said.

Posted by: jim | March 22, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Obama and his camp set out in the very beginning of this campaign, to spin every word that came out of the mouth of anyone , mainly the clintons to divide this nation, to divide this party, What Bill said in SC was not racist,you can if you are head set on seeing racism , you can see it in every thing, he knew if he didn’t angry the blacks they would indeed have voted for Hilliary,, and the only thing he could angry them over was race,his camp has been caught with a book of the words the clintons have spoke that was to be use to spin on ; race ,And yet people do not see what is right in front of their face, they only see what Obama is saying not what he is doing,and that is a shame ,cause in doing so they have elected John McCain as our next leader,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hands down, so in Nov, we can thank Obama and his crew of hate, for the next four years of war, and when your kids go off to war, thank Obama for it,

Posted by: ATYPICALWHITEWOMAN | March 22, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

Bill:
“It depends what you mean by “patriotism”.”

Posted by: Swordfish | March 22, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

If the Cliton’s pull this off by their negitive remarks, scare tactic ads and injection of race and fear of a black american senitor and citizen of this great contry that has yet to be perfected. As a black, hispanic male I will be Independant and will vote republican as well my lady.

Posted by: Kiem | March 22, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

DCVoter – A Subtle slam is what I read. The slam is implied because of the quote by Michelle Obama and stuff that the preacher has said. Bill is trying to maximize the effect as any skilled conniving politician would.

Posted by: eastinlandmessengereast | March 22, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

LOIS-
“Sorry Will, Say what you want, but this “typical white person” would NEVER sit through that hatred or any hatred towards America or other races or gender!”
OK, but did you research the context of Wrights speech for yourself? Also, did you hear Obama’s “typical white person” interview for yourself?

Posted by: Will | March 22, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Wow when Barak has a bad week he sure goes negative. What happened to his promise to keep his campaign about the issues. Guess this is what can expect with his health care proposal, mortgage proposal and end to war plan. Thanks for not keeping politics as usual. Um, ah, dah!

Posted by: Steve | March 22, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

Americans have a right to question any candidate’s patriotism, even if he is black, when he aligns himself so closely with this racist, anti-American church and pastor. . . and for 20 years!! It could have been the pastor’s urging and sympathy for the Muslim terrorists that actually influenced Obama to vote against the Iraq war. At that time, Saddam was bribing members of the United Nations and Kofi Annan’s own son, with money from the Oil for Food Program. Saddam wanted the sanctions dropped and he wanted a nuclear weapon. If we had not gone to war and Saddam now had a nuclear weapon, would Obama’s judgement look that good? We have a right to know who this candidate really is before we hand him the black briefcase and all the secrets of our military and defense!

Posted by: pinion65 | March 22, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

Ultimately, those who say they will vote for McCain if Obama gets the nominations will not.
Why?
Because Obama brings out the worst, the most small-minded, and the most racist aspects of Republicans, and no Democrat who could accept those fellow travelers for even one fraction of a second ever was a Democrat.

Posted by: Markle | March 22, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

A typical white person is the same as a typical black person. Both are overly opinionated Humanoids.
Or yellow, orange, or red.
We all have our faults.

Posted by: Thomas | March 22, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Another Ron – yeah I am judging “Obama for his own Personal Statements, Action and Deeds” and the stench is unbearable. He is a whiny disgusting “thing” not worthy of being called human. He screams “racism” at everyone that says anything negative about him and you want to talk about “judgment” and “deeds?” He wants me to ignore his racist pastor’s comments but then he demands Don Imus be fired for what he said??? Yeah that stench coming from Obama is sickening.

Posted by: libby | March 22, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

I am for Obama and I don’t see a real slam there–could be the context but I don’t see it. On this one the media and perhaps McPeak are a bit sensistive.

Posted by: abittoo sensitive | March 22, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Ultimately, those who say they will vote for McCain if Obama gets the nominations will not.
Why?
Because Obama brings out the worst, the most small-minded, and the most racist aspects of Republicans, and no Democrat who could accept those fellow travelers for even one fraction of a second ever was a Democrat.
++++++++++++++++++++Nice try there spin doctor but what you are saying is that anybody who refuses to vote for Obama are small minded nut cases and they dont matter well you might want to check out the polls there is a bunch of small minded nut cases that in deed are democrat that will cross the party line and vote for McCain,,,,,,,,,and those small mind independence are doing the same, so you can try and play games with people minds all you want, the truth is calling some one stupid to suit your needs only makes you look stupid

Posted by: ATYPICALWHITEWOMAN | March 22, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

As porky pig would say:
Thats all for now folks.

Posted by: Thomas | March 22, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

Yes Will I did.

Posted by: lois | March 22, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

Will, by the way, what would you say if Hillary said “Typical black person”? I would say that she would be out of line.

Posted by: lois | March 22, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am

Gloria-
“For all the people that are still hung up on all the things that happen when bill was president get over it. Move on I guess all of you have a white soul and are going to heaven! Concentrate on what is happening now and take a good look at youselves before you start throwing rocks! I guess you are all little white doves.”
If this is the case, why would anyone vote for Hillary? Her whole platfom centers around Bill’s presidency.

Posted by: Will | March 22, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am

One question for Mr. Obama. Who best fits the “typical black person” sterotype?
a. O.J. Simpson
b. Michael Jackson
c. Michael Vick
d. Louis Farahkan

Posted by: Jeff | March 22, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am

I don’t care what H/B Clinton’s people think. get over it Obama in gonna be the nominee, you can play all kinds of old politics but the truth will remain the truth.

Posted by: moses | March 22, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

Isn’t it funny we are to over look every word of hate and racism that comes out of the Obama and his camp,and the mouth of his family and friends, but the Clintons don’t even have to say thing that is any where close to racist or hateful or that singles out one race over the other, and Obama and his camp scream racist, Yet his bunch see nothing makes me wonder? just what is really going on, have people lost the good common sense that God has given them, are they so blind they can not see what is right in their face, or are they so filled with hate it does not matter,

Posted by: ATYPICALWHITEWOMAN | March 22, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

All these petty distractions that the Clintons engineer to keep the media and emotions spinning on nonsense issues. Bill and Hillary both supported the Bush war in Iraq against a nation that had nothing to do with 9/11. Obama gets my vote because he stays on the issues that matter. Bill, meanwhile, has lost so many millions of us who used to admire him. From admired ex-President to political hack in a few short months. Looks like he’s lowered himself to Hillary’s level in terms of her win-at-all-costs-nevermind-ethics-nevermind-damage-to-the-Democratic-Party strategy. But then, as I advised fellow Democrats here in Oklahoma about her way back in 1991, she ain’t him. She’s Richard Nixon reincarnated.

Posted by: Stan McCauley | March 22, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Heck, Obama won’t even wear a flag pin because it’s a symbol… he’s so patriotic, but we ask young men to serve and die for that symbol. What does that tell them. What kind of an example is that out of a man who wants to be Commander and Chief?
He should just be quite.
Posted by: John | Mar 21, 2008 11:36:01 PM
So lets see you are attempting weakly to imply that Barack is unpatriotic because he doesn’t wear a pin. What would you say is plan is for running for President of the United States? I have a sneaky suspicion of your answer and I just have to ask…if he were truly unpatriotic and was wanting to mislead, wouldn’t he WEAR the pin?

Posted by: daran | March 22, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Heck, Obama won’t even wear a flag pin because it’s a symbol… he’s so patriotic, but we ask young men to serve and die for that symbol. What does that tell them. What kind of an example is that out of a man who wants to be Commander and Chief?
He should just be quite.
Posted by: John | Mar 21, 2008 11:36:01 PM
So lets see you are attempting weakly to imply that Barack is unpatriotic because he doesn’t wear a pin. What would you say is plan is for running for President of the United States? I have a sneaky suspicion of your answer and I just have to ask…if he were truly unpatriotic and was wanting to mislead, wouldn’t he WEAR the pin?
oh yea and he is quite…..A GOOD candidate

Posted by: daran | March 22, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction. The chain reaction of evil – hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars – must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation.” These are the words of Martin Luther King. I wonder if Jeremiah Wright ever heard that speech or read those words! NO person could listen to hateful rants for 20 years and not be affected by it. I’m sure there are other so-called “black churches” in the Chicago area which BHO could have attended… if he had WANTED to. They cannot ALL preach hatred!

Posted by: Rhys | March 22, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

Why is the phony Obama NOW standing in front of all the Amerian flags? I don’t buy it for one minute.

Posted by: Jack | March 22, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

say whatever makes you guys happy. call it race, hate anything which will make your Easter more enjoyable, but the end is Obama is gonna be your president in 2009.

Posted by: moses | March 22, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

I’m a democrat but actually like Condi Rice. I thought pastor Wright’s statements about her were truly offensive.

Posted by: Sarah | March 22, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

THere are some Dems that are for Obama, but the truth is it is mostly independents. In California the Repugs primary was closed & the Dems was an open primary. What that means is that everyone knew that McCain had the nomination, so lots of Repugs & Repug leaning ind. were voting for Barack because they thought that Hillary was going to win the nomination – she still kicked his but here. My daughter was worked the polls & lots of them were requesting the Dem ballot & some even spoke their intentions. I belong to my local Dem club & don’t know one person for Barack. My mom was a caucus chair in Nevada & had to register voters at the caucus – there were serious questions about voter eligibility, but they weren’t allowed to ask for i.d. In Nevada the popular vote was for Hillary, but Barack got as many delegates because of the screwy way they divide them.

Posted by: kristina | March 22, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

Lois-
“Will, by the way, what would you say if Hillary said “Typical black person”? I would say that she would be out of line.”
First, Hillary is not half black. If you are familiar with the interview in question, Hillary making that comment isnt the same. I take issue with people taking things out of context. Say Hillary did make a statement regarding typical Black person, I would need the context.
Now with Obama, maybe he needs to understand, the fact that he is biracial is irrelevant. He is obviously being viewed as a black man as opposed to being the human that he is. Lets say he said, “Typical Black Person” in reference to something he thought about blacks or, lets say he said ‘average white person’ instead, would it make a difference to the point he was trying to make?
When clinton was making those remarks about Obama, fairy tale and those statements about MLK, were those statements OK? You say you are not going to vote for Obama for a statement that given the context means something that many people believe yet you are willing to forgo what clinton has said…well, I guess you arent being truthful when you say you wont sit through hatred…

Posted by: Will | March 22, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

Obama’s people find something wrong with anything a ‘typical’ white person says. Talk about injecting negativism into the campaign.
I think Obama has managed to shed the aura of shining knight and reveal what is simply posturing by a ‘typical’politician.

Posted by: Jeff | March 22, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

Politics as usual. The problem here is that campaign underlings wanting to take center stage over the candidates. Can anyone honestly say that the Clintons have not tried to twist things around for thier political
self interests? Bill is a snakey as they come.

Posted by: savoymt | March 22, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

GerryW, everybody including Obama has condenm these words from Wright, these are not Obama’s words, that is where the difference is and Bill Clinton under who’s leadership US Embassies are Warships were bombarded, US army has to face defeat in Somalia, who has sent bombs on Kosova with the support of General Clark to distract congress from his impeachment, who is well placed to talke about patriotism? The 35 years of Hillary’s experience include these big mistakes and lack of judgement??? The Clintons have to recognize that it is too late, they have to go back home and lend their support to Obama to beat McCain as a drum in November. OBAMA08.

Posted by: BKMC | March 22, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

On first reading the quote seems open to interpretation as attacking Obama’s patriotism. Why didn’t he say something like this instead:
We have two people who love this country and are devoted to the interest of this country. I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics.

Posted by: john | March 22, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

Truth hurts huh McPeak!

Posted by: Jim | March 22, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

Obama’s finished!

Posted by: Jim | March 22, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Our respectable troops didnt not die over a symbol thats unhonorable I think. Sum and hopefully no more will die when Oboma is in office but the ones that did die for its country and country men and women like u and I. Patrism is not wearing a pin or even a bumper sticker even tho sum would want to make it as simple as that. But it goes as far as community service for the community not for selfwealth

Posted by: Kiem | March 22, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

Obama’s campaign tactic of playing victim and feeling “offended” by people’s words is starting to be annoying. They are really “streching the truth” to find something in Clinton’s comment to complain about. I think we have more important issues to discuss than Obama’s wounded ego.

Posted by: desertclair | March 22, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

Mr. Obama,
I think it is time to leave the arena.
Bye Bye Obama

Posted by: Bob | March 22, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

Jim
You certainly wish that your dream become a reality, no sir, Hillary is finished because delegates count, popular vote are on Obama’s side and superdelegates will support Obama and nominate Obama, there is no alternative solution. OBAMA08.

Posted by: BKMC | March 22, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

Have you ever know two people in the same family and one has “victim” mentality and the other doesn’t? It never seems to make sense. Both Obama’s have the “victim” mentality.

Posted by: jim | March 22, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

The only thing “outrageous” is the Obama response. Geez, if someone says anything other than fawning over Obama then it must be an insult. Get a grip Obama. The world does NOT revolve around you.

Posted by: JR | March 22, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

If Hillary is so devoted to the interest of this country, then she should have the decency to stand aside now. She cannot win the nomination, and if she did she is not electable in November. Meanwhile her negativity is turning off Democrats on a daily basis.

Posted by: Mokopane | March 22, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

Can anybody tell me any significant difference between Obama and Clinton on any REAL issue. Seems to me that their fanatics are basing everything on promise and emotion and don’t have a clue about any distinctions in policy.
Two peas in a pod.

Posted by: Surelock Homes | March 22, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

I LOVE Bill Clinton … he tells it like it is! … and those who feel the guilt from his remarks pick right up on it!!
Hillary ’08 … all the way for the USA!!

Posted by: Jackson | March 22, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

If Obama becomes the nominee, I will not stay home. I will vote for McCain…
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That’s the commitment of all the dems I I know among friends and family. and we live in a swing state.

Posted by: dem | March 22, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am

smartone-
“be an objective adult please”
These are the same people that sat through nearly 8 years of Bush and are willing to sit through 4 years of McCain only because they are not willing to research snippets of information to find the truth. Anyone who is able to see facts, wouldnt be able to justify voting for McCain given the stark contrast between the current democratic candidates and the republican nominee.

Posted by: Will | March 22, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

Will, by the way, what would you say if Hillary said “Typical black person”? I would say that she would be out of line.
Posted by: lois | Mar 22, 2008 11:11:20 AM
One question for Mr. Obama. Who best fits the “typical black person” sterotype?
a. O.J. Simpson
b. Michael Jackson
c. Michael Vick
d. Louis Farahkan
Posted by: Jeff | Mar 22, 2008 11:12:27 AM
Did anyone bother to listen to what Barack said he meant when he made the “typical” comment. Like it or not its true, There is crime in the cities, insurance rates are higher, I have white friends who are afraid to come in the city (st. louis, mo) after dark for fear of being robbed or attcked. Why? cause that IS the mindset of the majority. That is “typical” thinking of areas where there is a high population of non-caucasians. And that view isn’t just reserved for us, a majority have that same view for Hispanic areas. Geraldine makes comments and its fine because “its true” but Barack makes comments that although true he can’t make?

Posted by: Daran | March 22, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

Another Wacko? Obama may force you to quit McPeack. It endangers the harmony, the ecstasy, the enlighting campaign to the american people and Rev. Wright’s promise to America to unite us all and to crush us……

Posted by: RossiMass | March 22, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

What Bill meant to say was “for the first time in their adult life”…….

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | March 22, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

Will — Nor would they be able to vote for Clinton or Obama either.
Those “snippits” of information you speak of are eat up with corruption.

Posted by: Dave | March 22, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

Can anybody tell me any significant difference between Obama and Clinton on any *REAL* issue. Seems to me that their fanatics are basing everything on promise and emotion and don’t have a clue about distinctions in policy.
Don’t you wonder whether, if elected, they would have a different policy from Bush regarding the Palestinians, the North Koreans, Venezuela? What are the specific details in their differences in NAFTA? Etc? You dems are getting agitated about mush!
Two peas in a pod.

Posted by: Surelock Homes | March 22, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

It doesn’t matter anyway any democrat we give the nomination to isn’t going to beat John McCain the dems are unelectable…they both have split the votes so heavily that neither one will win so we need to stop arguing…

Posted by: derek | March 22, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am

“love your country” has now officially become a racist code word, according to Obama…

Posted by: falsehope | March 22, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

Expect more bad news coming out about Obama in the coming week. They are trying to position themselves for the blow.

Posted by: Susan | March 22, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

“Did anyone bother to listen to what Barack said he meant when he made the “typical” comment. Like it or not its true, There is crime in the cities, insurance rates are higher, I have white friends who are afraid to come in the city (st. louis, mo) after dark for fear of being robbed or attcked. Why? cause that IS the mindset of the majority. That is “typical” thinking of areas where there is a high population of non-caucasians. And that view isn’t just reserved for us, a majority have that same view for Hispanic areas. Geraldine makes comments and its fine because “its true” but Barack makes comments that although true he can’t make?”
Daran,
Sorry to say this, but your statement is too long. There’s this picture that I have seen on the internet where Colin Powell is saying I’m not reading any of that SH!#. People make their judgments from snippets here.
1. …the ‘typical white person’ remark would have to be put into context. People here obviously don’t like to do that.
2. Clinton supporters have a vested interest in making Obama look bad any chance they get. They view Clintons chance of becoming the nominee as a certainty and have never been willing to accept Obama as the potential nominee. Scorched earth politics.

Posted by: Will | March 22, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

I just couldn’t take just another national apology from another Obama’s surrogate. I had enough with the temper of the Harvard Professor, the infamous Samantha Powers. So pathetic ! Cannot take another one kicked out of NBC either…Enough of sick apologies. These ara hard time for this country and Obamians seem not to be aware of it.

Posted by: RossiMass | March 22, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Obama is definitely politics as usual. With respect to the Florida and Michigan primaries, he keeps saying he favors seating the delegates. However, he objected to a revote in both states – he wants the delegates seated in an arbitrary manner – not according to the will of the voters in both states. Obama supporters keep saying that Clinton will do anything to win – but they don’t see Obama’s political machinations. He is discounted the voters – just as he did in winning his first seat in the Illinios state legislature. Americans need to wake up and stop listening to the media, which keeps spinning for Obama. I used to laugh when I heard about the “left wing media” – in this election – I can see it clear as day – and I am a proud progressive.

Posted by: Florida Democrat | March 22, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

bill stated that his wife and McCain loved America, not Obama. That’s nuts….hillary has shown by the way she runs her campaign, that the only thing she loves is her HUGE EGO.

Posted by: anniec | March 22, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

Obama’s campaign is so sad. The only thing that gives me any joy about the prospects of another Republican win in 2008 is that all of these lemmings who have guzzled down this man’s kool aid as though he were the second coming are going to find out just how wrong they have been. Barack Obama is not going to be the president. Not this year, and not ever. He has no substance.

Posted by: DontDrinkTheKoolAid | March 22, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

“Me thinks he [The Obama staffer] doth protest TOO much”.

Posted by: Ronin | March 22, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

“Obama is definitely politics as usual. With respect to the Florida and Michigan primaries, he keeps saying he favors seating the delegates. However, he objected to a revote in both states – he wants the delegates seated in an arbitrary manner – not according to the will of the voters in both states. Obama supporters keep saying that Clinton will do anything to win – but they don’t see Obama’s political machinations. He is discounted the voters – just as he did in winning his first seat in the Illinios state legislature. Americans need to wake up and stop listening to the media, which keeps spinning for Obama. I used to laugh when I heard about the “left wing media” – in this election – I can see it clear as day – and I am a proud progressive. ”
And how do you reconcile that with the fact, our leadership in florida is the worst! I don’t know what part of Florida you are in, but it wasn’t like we werent notified before the election of the vote not counting. ABC and Fox news affiliates reported on this issue months before the election. If the votes are so important, why not send a letter to the leadership here demanding a primary election that conforms to the DNC rules.

Posted by: Will | March 22, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

I usually think Bill Clinton says stupid stuff…However, in this case – what he was saying is what we always say and want in a POTUS – that they love this country , blah, blah , blah – - WASSUP? Obama have a guilty conscience???? – - ANYWAY – - on this one – NO PRIZE OB – -Bill was saying something COMPLETELY INNOCUOUS – even for a CLINTON

Posted by: few | March 22, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

Wow! What a sore loser Obama is! So much for his “anti-negative” campaign. No matter how he tries to shift the media attention off of himself, by berating others, his past indiscretions won’t just go away…hhmm…maybe he should just pack up his toys and go home. Stop taking the money of the people he did dupe…and stop bragging about it. Go Hillary!

Posted by: jeep395 | March 22, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

If Obama wins, I vote Obama in November. On the outside chance that Clinton wins, I take a deep breath and vote Clinton. McCain’s policies on war, taxes … just about anything, is too far off my political map for the future of this country.

Posted by: Mokopane | March 22, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

well said fireoftruth

Posted by: Dave | March 22, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

Will —
I dont know enough about Nader honestly.
What I think is, he wishes well upon America, but he has to many socialist tendencies for my book.
He has no ecomnomic sense that I have heard, and to me that should be every ones priority right now.

Posted by: Dave | March 22, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

If you parse Bill’s sentence, it is clearly a negative swipe at at least one of the candidates, and you can only guess who. Typical Clintonian politics — take a cleverly worded swipe, and then chuckle when recant and say “Oh, did it sound like that to you? What I meant was …” We know what you meant Bill, you’re only fooling a few posters on this blog.

Posted by: Mokopane | March 22, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

OH COME ON! The Obama camp is feeling really defensive on this one. You have to give them credit for TWISTING everything that comes out of BILL CLINTON’s mouth. HE WAS ADDRESSING VETERANS!

Posted by: Darla | March 22, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Bill Clinton is the ultimate campaigner and the consummate politico. I think he knew exactly what he was doing.

Posted by: James | March 22, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

you know what.. I am so TIRED of the Clinton campaign promoting John McCain. This is non-sense! And its funny how the die hard Hillary supporters don’t see this as such. How does she see herself winning in the general election after she is seen promoting his candidacy? I am for both Hillary and Barack but this is just pure non-sense. She complained after the shame on you tactic about how Democrats don’t attack each other on health care but yet its ok to attack another democrat by promoting several times for the republican opponent? THIS IS NONSENSE. I AM OFFICIAL NOW A OBAMA supporter. This is truly absurd. To subliminally suggest that Sen. Obama is not patriotic to me the most unpatriotic statement I’ve heard. Im sure Bin Laden is having a great time hearing Americans accusing each other of not being true Americans. Smarten Up Clinton campaign. you are doing a world of injustice and are losing the respect of someone who truly loved the Clinton name. Now you should issue an apology to the Obama campaign just off of the strength that your words could come off like this. We do not know who the nominee will be and for you to imply such nonsense is insane. Maybe you feel comfortable running with John McCain, than against him, but i dont!!! Let us focus on the real issues instead of these Mark Penn message flaps. PLEASE IF YOU TRULY LOVE YOUR COUNTRY that is.

Posted by: Phil G | March 22, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

If Rev Wright is such a racist why did he recieve the Rockefeller Fellowship award among others and also was the recipient of 3 US Presidential Commendations. He is a well sought after speaker and has spoken at Oxford and Yale.

Posted by: moe | March 22, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

It is time for the Democratic leadership to step in and stop these Machiavellian win at all costs tactics of the Clintons. It is time to come together and pick the nominee with the most votes and delegates and stop this nonsense.

Posted by: Peggy Ledbetter | March 22, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

After the disgrace that bill clinton & bush brought on the white house and the presidency, we have a chance to elect a honest and intelligent man, both ex-president are trying to drag Obama with them in the gutters.
So disgusting of the clintons, I can not stand seeing them an extra minute on the tube.

Posted by: David | March 22, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Bill Clinton is a twisted man, sickened with greed, and his sole ambition to get back into the White House. He’s an OLD politician. His time was in the nineties, but he can’t accept that his time has passed, so now he is forcefully injecting himself in this election with smear tactics. I FEEL SORRY FOR THIS OLD MAN.

Posted by: stacy | March 22, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

“Will —
I dont know enough about Nader honestly.
What I think is, he wishes well upon America, but he has to many socialist tendencies for my book.
He has no ecomnomic sense that I have heard, and to me that should be every ones priority right now.

I can respect that. Nader wont win anyways.
The thing with Ron Paul, he suggests radical changes in America. Though I do believe he follows true republican ideology, How will he work with a Dem/Rep Congress that will fight him every chance they get? And, how can Ron Paul win? Seriously! Reps have a vested interest in seeing this war continue. Dems vote establishment at a rate of at least 70%. Ron Paul wouldnt have a chance.

Posted by: Will | March 22, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Few, So right, it is like the Obama camp has a guilty conscience. The same way with the passport file. Hillary and McCain were upset about it, but not to the extend that Obama was. Then on Thursday night on MSNBC you would have thought something major happened the way they went on. They were ready to jump on Hillary or McCain.

Posted by: lois | March 22, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Here we go again, Obama trying to change the subject and trying to turn the argument to the other side. Clever politician. What about his refuse to touch his heart during the national anthem or the pledge of allegiance or Michelle Obama being proud for the first time or rev wrigth comments, etc. Just connect the dots. Stop the whining you candidate is the one to blame. Just a typical white person

Posted by: Ralph | March 22, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

I cannot think of anything worse that could happen to either campaign than the Wright video. This will stick to the voters mind for eternity. Even if Obama ran 8 years from now it would haunt him. He handled it so poorly.

Posted by: Jeffrey | March 22, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

Lynn, the media has staken Wright’s sermons out of context? Really? Did they take Wright’s Man of the Year award to Louis Farrakhan out of context too?
Lol. You Obama guys are toast in the general. Can’t wait.

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

Why does Obama think he is the great uniter? Is this one of them?

Posted by: James | March 22, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

The Obama camp is becoming desperate. They are hoping and praying for a Clinton mistake, and not getting it yet. So each day they go and try to pick the closest thing they can find to a mistake by the Clinton camp in an attempt to distract the public from Obama’s alligance to his pastor. Every single day, they are wining about something, and so far coming up with blanks.

Posted by: Ed | March 22, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

The Washington Times newspaper website is now reporting that the passport security breach may be tied into a company with ties to the Obama campaign. I guess Obama will need to give another speech next week.

Posted by: sitting1 | March 22, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

For a man who sat for 20 years of sermons bashing whites and America, Obama sure is super sensitive to other’s comments.
Too bad that sensitivity didn’t apply to that 20 year hatemonger, Rev Wright.

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

Bill Clinton always makes me shake my head in amazement–Love of country? Putting country first? When has he ever put his country before himself? During Vietnam? No, he didn’t serve. When facing impeachment? No, he decided to cling to the Presidency that dragged us all through his personal soap opera. Had he stepped aside by putting his country first, AL Gore would have assumed the presidency and there may not have been the 7 years we have suffered through. (I never liked Nixon, but he had more class, in the end choosing country over his own interests). Instead he fought tooth and nail to stay in, and republicans took the white house, house, and senate in the next election. Now, he is doing the same dog and pony show again–Is history going to repeat itself? Will he again put himself above country–say whatever it takes…do whatever it takes to ensure the republicans are the only ones left standing. Since he now has assumed a personality like McCarthy (having the gall to question anyone else’s love of country considering his sorry example) perhaps he should do as Leiberman and become a republican. He has certainly done enough to get republicans elected.

Posted by: DQuinn | March 22, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

“If Rev Wright is such a racist why did he recieve the Rockefeller Fellowship award among others and also was the recipient of 3 US Presidential Commendations. He is a well sought after speaker and has spoken at Oxford and Yale.”
The fact is, he isnt racist. If you do a y-tube search on Wrights speech you will see that the context is misrepresented. In one, he is quoting a white ambassador in the Reagan administration.
People fell for the ‘swiftboat attacks’, people fell for the ‘WMD’ lies, people will continue to believe what they want to believe or what the media wants them to believe. I thought, given the fact that we are in the internet age, people would be able to research the truth. I guess they don’t teach research in all schools.
It also amazes me, how Dems allow the reps to control them so badly. The Florida revote issue is obvious evidence of that. The vote to authorize the war is evidence. This mischaracterization of Wrights words is evidence. How hard is it to find the information, the facts? Are commercial breaks that rewarding, that you can’t jump in front of a computer and find out the facts?

Posted by: Will | March 22, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

Who was Clinton referring to?
“I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country, and people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics.” – Bill Clinton
I agree with Bill Clinton and with all the candidates who do want the issues discussed so that we can determine who would best lead this country. However, to precede these comments with suggestions questioning people’s patriotism was unfortunate. I would like to know why we will not already have two people who loved this country no matter who is nominated. Currently we have one presumptive nominee on the Republican side – John McCain – Is he unpatriotic? On the Democratic side we have Hilary and Obama. Is Hilary not patriotic ? Or is it Obama who is not patriotic. So who is it that is not patriotic no matter which way you slice it? I wish the press would question Clinton about this. Or is it the same pattern of innuendos?
a. First it was Hilary’s comment when asked whether she thought Obama is a Muslim on 60 minutes(I think). Instead of a straight answer ,her reply was “… I have got to take his word for it”. Factually correct but as if she did not quite believe that Obama was not a Muslim
b. Then it was a comparison with Jesse Jackson’s earlier win. Factually correct but a slam on both Jesse and Obama
c. Ironically, then it was the fact that he attended Church for 20 years, albeit at Rev. Wright’s church. I thought he was a Muslim!
d. Then Obama was a “Ken Starr”
e. Now the hint questioning his patriotism – if it was not Obama who was Clinton referring to?
While I admired most of what Bill Clinton did during his presidency, I am disappointed that he and/or the Clinto campaign have to resort to such tactics. I am not surprised that Gen McPeak, Chief Of Air Staff, US Air Force was outraged. We should all be.

Posted by: Frank | March 22, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

First, Obama’s team is reacting to Clinton’s comment because “they are guilty”.
Btw- Obama attended and continues to attend a African oriented church for the last 20 years which has put Africa above USA. Therefore, if one thinks in this context OBAMA is not patriotic.
GO FIGURE.

Posted by: GS | March 22, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

President Bill Clinton wants back into the White House so badly that he is willing to say and do anything. He and his spouse are so stubborn and so willing to make any claim that will harm Mr. Obama. Yet, Mr. Obama has it all; and I am certain that he could beat President Bill Clinton as well.
I don’t love Mr. Obama, and I do not even ardently support him. Yet, he has that “thing” that makes him special, an innate ability that propels him to a higher level of being. Though Michael Savage may hate his guts and call him a phoney and a liar; I can assure you that Mr. Obama is much smarter and more solid then one can imagine.

Posted by: lavampire | March 22, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

Bobzmcishl writes: Friday, March, 21, 2008 8:11 PM
“Richardson one of the good guys
Richardson would make a good VP. A black and a hispanic against two white candidates would be interesting for sure. It would be nice to see both the Bush family and Clinton family recede into past history for the good of the country.”
Ahhh yes, race politics at its finest. And you liberals said you were shy about these tactics and it was a republican’s game! However, consider these three things:
1. Hispanics are turned off by this Pablo Escobar beard-sporting traiter jumping ship when it was the clintons who elevated this fat tamale to the national stage
2. the “typical” blue collar whites and independents that Obama (ironically) needs to win probably won’t appreciate this obvious attempt to pander to racial minorities and thereby juxtapose themselves against an old white cracker
3. This directly contradicts what Obama says he is trying to achieve which is a colorblind campaign.
Oh well, I guess I’m not surprised that this blatant hypocrite continues to dupe his loyal comrades and followers.

Posted by: Hawk | March 22, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

Donna Engstrom
THANX FOR YOUR HONESTY AND VISION OF A BETTER AMERICA INWHICH I SHARE WITH YOU… AND HOPE WE ALL CAN COME TO OUR SENCES OR THIS PARTY WILL NOT HAVE A LEG TO STANDON OR BACKBONE TO STAND UPRIGHT

Posted by: Kiem | March 22, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

Ed: Why would the Obama campaign be desperate? Obama is ahead in delegates and headed for a likely nomination. After dip in the polls after Wright-wing distraction, his numbers are rebounding on the basis of a masterfully crafted speech. Obama is firmly in the drivers seat, and has no need for desperation.

Posted by: Mokopane | March 22, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

What Obama and his camp is are GREAT at is claiming Obama is always the victim and never taking responsibility for his past actions. IE: 20 years at a church which preaches hate of the white race and AMERICA – Oh I’m sorry he wasn’t there during these sermons, or no he was there but he took exception to the sermons, but only after confronted by massive news media attention otherwise Wright would still be the head of his spiritual committee.
What Obama and Wright seem to forget is AMERICA paid (in full) for both Obama’s and his wife’s total education to get him were he is today. I’ll bet that was never mentioned in his racists church….

Posted by: John | March 22, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Obama’s camp seems to be paranoid. They are taking every thing said from Hillary’s campaign and making it racial or un-American. If Bill or Hillary Clinton had used the phrase “typical black person”, Obama’s camp would have gone absolutely crazy. This race has become divided, not united. And Obama can say what he wants, but he is part of it. I guess this is what you mean by CHANGE?

Posted by: lois | March 22, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

Wright’s sermons were not taken out of context. They were so hateful even Oprah had to leave. And don’t forget Rev Wright’s award given to Louis Farrakhan a year ago. What context do you put that in? lol.
Nice dodge though. Won’t work.

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

This is a silly snit over nothing. I know what Clinton meant — he wasn’t saying “wouldn’t it be great IF we had two candidates who love the country etc…” — he was saying “wouldn’t it be great if everyone focused on the platforms and ideas of the candidates instead of arguing over who is the most patriotic.” He said it badly, yes. But I don’t think that was deliberate. He was admonishing all of us to start with the assumption that any candidate is coming to the process motivated by deep patiotrism and a dedication to public service… so let’s look at ideas and the capacity to get it done instead of spending our time fighting over who is the “most patriotic.” Some will parse Clinton’s sentence and look for a “hidden” meaning, but I think what he meant is clear and involved no slur whatsoever. I’m a staunch Obama supporter and wouldn’t give Clinton an inch of slack if I thought he meant this as an an insidious attack — I just don’t see it that way and can’t believe others do.

Posted by: stsw531 | March 22, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

Jo: Just what are you resting your case upon? Poll after poll shows that the majority of college educated Democrats prefer Obama over Clinton, irrespective of race.

Posted by: Mokopane | March 22, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

There seeems to be a huge discrepency in this story. This story does not mention the fact that Bill Clinton only made mention of Hillary and John McCain as being the two Americans he was talking about. Obama’s aide (special emphasis on aide) has every right to decry Bill Clinton’s assertion or the former president implying that Obama is unpatrioitc. This goes to speak to the the heart of everything that is wrong with the Clinton campaign that would go as far to align themselves with the republican party just so that they can win and defeat Obama

Posted by: Jay | March 22, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

Obama and his people always whine about how they are being discriminated against. Can’t you guys just stop complaining and start talking about real solutions to the problems America faces? I’m sick of Obama deceiving voters with empty promises. And stop tainting the legacy of President Clinton. He has been, in fact, one of the greatest presidents in American history.

Posted by: George | March 22, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

Obama is supporting Wright who supported 9/11 terrorist attacks on America. Actions speak louder than words.

Posted by: Roger Miller | March 22, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

Jay:
don’t forget you fool all the activity that al qaeda was up to under Clinton’s incompetent watch, the impotent responses he had, and the 9-11 planning that Obama did (oops, I mean…I really get these two confused these days!) despite the world’s best friend in office for 8 dysfunctional years.

Posted by: Hawk | March 22, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

Obama will lose PA by 15 -20points because of typically white people votes. Obama typically sees things in black and white. Am sorry for America that it took Pastor Wright Videos to expose the hypocrite that wears the suit

Posted by: lluluadorl | March 22, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

What, Obama can say “typical white person” and go on w/business as usual and then take Clinton’s words out of context again? What’s going on here? I’m so sick of it. He needs to remove himself from this race for being associated with racists, bigots, frauds, corrupt people; and Obama himself tells lies about not hearing controversial statements from Wright and then he said he did a week later. Does anyone want that kind of President? Grassroots write-in campaign starting for Hillary if she doesn’t get the nom – to take back election from Media and Republicans. Do the MATH – Obama can’t win Fl & MI now that he’s alienated himself from those states; he can’t win caucus states – Hillary wins primaries; he can’t win swing states – Hillary’s won those as well as the big blue states. Do the Math – a write in campaign for Hillary would embarrass the Obama campaign because they know most people want to take their votes back now anyway.

Posted by: Jackson25 | March 22, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

RE: Jo and Mokopane.
Perhaps the college educated DEMS are also those under age 30. The younger generation are more likely to have gone to college than those over 50. I went to college and I can’t believe people would seriously sell out to a charasmatic speaker with no resume compared to EVERYONE else who was running to be a DEM nominee. It takes more than hopes and dreams to be President!

Posted by: Dar | March 22, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

Bill Clinton’s words are dissected & grilled in the media. Barack Obama’s many lies are forgiven & and his empty promises are honored as scripture. I am concerned that many American’s fail to grasp the duplicitous nature of Obama, the clever wolf in attractive sheep’s clothing.

Posted by: M. Santos | March 22, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Jo–You need to do some research outside of the 15 second sound bite–The black panther symbol was a comment plant that was taking down immediately after it was discovered. I saw the same plant as a joke put on Sean Hannity’s comment section of his website. Later it was also removed when it was discovered. When you decide to quit being a pawn you will have more to offer. I read conservative and liberal blog sites–Read various on-line newspaper sites when something sensational hits the airwaves. Go to links discover the facts through factchecker.org–Then you don’t continually repeat errors on blogs.

Posted by: DQuinn | March 22, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Obama and his people always whine about how they are discriminated against. Come on, people, what President Clinton said is not discriminatory. Furthermore, many of the people I know are now getting tired of all the fuss Obama makes about transcending race.
Obama, here’s a piece of advice for you. Stop being such a sissy and start talking about real issues and solutions.

Posted by: Jason | March 22, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Obama is always so outraged. When he starts becoming outraged that American families are struggling with the economy, then I might support him. Until then, I’m voting for Clinton. At least they know how to create jobs & reduce the deficit.

Posted by: T. Wilson | March 22, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Obama website had the Black Panther endorsement, until someone started spreading the word and they sneakily took it down. Just like the Trinity Church has quickly taken down some of it’s church “goals” because they’re so divisive!
What else are we going to find out about Obama?

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

I love how the Obama bashers resort to name calling–The first lesson in debate is to discuss issues. Since most commentors can’t really discuss issues, they race bait and name call. The old adage, “genious has its limits, but ignorance knows no bounds” is alive and well.

Posted by: DQuinn | March 22, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

Jay: The fact is you and the other
Clinton Supporters are wasting their
Collective breaths!
The Party is over! The Deal is done!
Barack Obama will be the Democrat
Party Nominee for President!
That is why first Pelosi and now
Richardson are uniting around Obama!
The next shoe to drop will be
John Edwards!
This stuff about his pastor came out too
late! You can blame the Liberal MSM for that!
By the way did anyone notice the picture of Bill Clinton with pastor Wright? Another coincidence I suppose like the photo of Rezko with the Clintons!
What I can’t believe is that none of the
high level Democrats in the Party knew
what was going on in the black churches!
How can that be? Democrats are always
campaigning in black churches when the elections roll around!
Obama isn’t the only one who has no
credibility on this issue!

Posted by: reaganfan | March 22, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

The Obama people so desperately need a scam on the clintons.It is blatantly
obvious that they need to shift the heat. God knows Obama is burning.

Posted by: Kurt | March 22, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

“Obama and his people always whine about how they are discriminated against. Come on, people, what President Clinton said is not discriminatory. Furthermore, many of the people I know are now getting tired of all the fuss Obama makes about transcending race.
Obama, here’s a piece of advice for you. Stop being such a sissy and start talking about real issues and solutions. ”
Discrimination? Let me guess, the next part of the recipe is that ‘Obama called Clinton Racist for implying he does not love this country.’ Some of us are a little sharper then that.

Posted by: Will | March 22, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Reading some of these comments it becomes apparent that you all probably deserve what you get.
The Clintons and Bushes are relatives for heaven’s sake, the same family has been destroying America for years. If you think the Mrs will have any power in the White House you’re kidding yourself. She’s more of a puppet than GW Jr.
While I think Obama is a lightweight, he’s certainly his own man and it genuinely would be a vote for change, and surely every American sees the desperate need for that.

Posted by: Maypole | March 22, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

The real Bill Clinton has been unmasked. For years he actly like he cared for people but that was all a horrible lie. How could he care when he did the unspeakable things he did to women? He is an awful person and we need to put him and his ruined legacy in the past. What a fraud he is.

Posted by: rockychance | March 22, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

Democrats act like children on a playground. Obama seems the most childish. He get “outraged” anytime someone holds him accountable for his actions. Are we suppose to swallow his words, even though many of them don’t measure up? He’s a gifted liar. Perhaps that makes him a great politician but I don’t want this guy as our Commander-in-Chief, given what we now know.

Posted by: Edward Russelli | March 22, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

I’m sick and tired of this Obama and his campaign staffers.
They demand people treat them like ROYALTY.
What’s wrong with Clinton’s speech?
They always ask for apology.
Even Ms C Rice apologize to him only but not to Clinton and Mc Cain.
What about Obama speech yesterday in portland, ORE he said Hillary still receive money from lobbyst and he does not.
What about Rezko?
He delivered lots of promises to people and make people dream about it.
for sure he is a superb speaker but just like in Illinois he never push the button.

Posted by: crisis08 | March 22, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

Bill Clinton is a patriot? When did he EVER put his country before his own interests? I’m Serious–just one example of how he personally put country before self.

Posted by: DQuinn | March 22, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

Obama whines anytime the media asks tough questions! Is he serious?? He’s been treated with kid gloves like no other candidate in history!!
And this guy wants to be President??
LOLOL.

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

One of the important points that I think a lot of people are missing are the rules. Under the DNC rules, pledged delegates are simply that (pledged). At the convention, pledged delegates can change their vote along with superdelegates. In a close race, anything can happen. The voters provide a guide for the pledged delegates at that snapshot in time. They are not bound to the snapshot. This is why both candidates continue to campaign. This is also why Obama surrogates are trying to get Clinton to drop out of the race… they fear the convention. This is not the first time in history that the nomination is decided at the convention and there are cases where a nominee is not presumptive until June. With the pending court rulings complicating things further, we have no way of knowing what will happen come August. The good thing is that so many Americans are participating in the process for a change.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 22, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

Kurt: Why would the Obama campaign be desperate? Obama is ahead in delegates and headed for a likely nomination. After dip in the polls after Wright-wing distraction, his numbers are rebounding on the basis of a masterfully crafted speech. Obama is firmly in the drivers seat, and has no need for desperation.

Posted by: Mokopane | March 22, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

DQuinn:
did you also happen to catch the black panther spokesman on Hannity saying that they did endorse Obama? And the best thing is when Hannity informed him that Obama refused the endorsement the spokesman said “yeah but that’s just politics”. Ha ha, if obama isn’t putting his foot in his mouth (“typical white person”) then these other idiots do it for him. Another good example: does it reflect well on obama’s (lack of)judgment that his personal racist unpatriotic mentor is nowhere to be found and is cowardly scurrying behind logs and bushes in Africa like the cockroach he is?

Posted by: Hawk | March 22, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

Republicans have a win-win situation here.
Clintons legacy is trash (we told you so!) and Obama loses the general election by a landslide!
Good times.

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

There’s a lot of wink, wink, nod, nod going on in the Obama group amongst his extremist supporters. They know he’s one of them, but they know he has to keep it under wraps to win a general election!
You guys are so gullible!

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

You know Bill Clinton cetainly was not perfect, and he did some bad things.
But as I remember, the clinton years were booming!! I live in a very small town. The opportunties here during the clinton administration were one after another. I think Mr. Clinton was one of the best Presidents that we have had.
If he could run again I would vote for him.

Posted by: Kurt | March 22, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

McCain people must be laughing with satisfaction at the bickering between Obama and Clinton. Where is Dean? he should stop that long time ago.
Keep it up, there is no hope for DNP at least until 2012!

Posted by: Al Lieu | March 22, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Bill knew EXACTLY what he was implying. He’s a clever politician.

Posted by: Mokopane | March 22, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

“I love how the Obama bashers resort to name calling–The first lesson in debate is to discuss issues. Since most commentors can’t really discuss issues, they race bait and name call. The old adage, “genious has its limits, but ignorance knows no bounds” is alive and well.”
Posted by: DQuinn | Mar 22, 2008 1:06:40 PM
God, this is hilarious- I was reading your comment above and had to read it twice because at first I thought you were talking about Obama calling clinton McCarthy (personally I wouln’t have given Clinton who sold out to the Chinese, the compliment).

Posted by: Hawk | March 22, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

The DNC Rules and the RNC rules are different–Example: the RNC party chairman can make decisions alone. The DNC chairman must rule by vote of others. Pledge delegates are just that–pledged to the candidate. Nancy Pelosi has already addressed this issue. The job of the DNC is to choose by delegate count the party’s nominee. Other than super delegates, Hillary is over. That is why she is trying desperately to get them–She is the one that is now desperate. And her husband is even more desperate–His foundation depends on being an insider to access to the white house for money for the foundation. Sort of like when they sold the white house bedrooms but bigger.

Posted by: DQuinn | March 22, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Geraldine Ferraro’s line that Barack found so offensive was in something like paragraph 12 of an obscure newspaper. But they found it!!!
But Barack can sit in the pew for 20 years and listen to white hatred and no problem! “Gee, I didn’t know”
Are you freakiin kidding me???????

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

McCain can’t remember when election day is………..

Posted by: Kurt | March 22, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

Bill’s credibility is sinking fast, and with the news of the lies that Hillary’s told about her supposed lack of enthusiasm for the NAFTA treaty really shows us the depth the Clinton’s will go to get elected. Apparently she championed NAFTA. More lies!!! Aren’t you tired of it! How can anyone support out and out lying? Is character really a trait that matters? Don’t talk it!!! Vote It!!! We need change now!

Posted by: Ed Morrow | March 22, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

Actions speak louder than words:
Barack’s words: Vote for me, I’m for change!
Barack’s actions: 20 years listening to racist hate America talk…
Yep, actions speak louder than words!

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

The truly “outrageous” scandal is that Clinton is still in this race. If she had the best interest of the Democratic party at heart, she would have bowed out a few weeks ago. And, to the poster above, I am not French. I am an American patriot, white, college educated, over 40 — one of Obama’s best and most devoted demographics.

Posted by: Mokopane | March 22, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

Because bill said obama was not patriotic, the Obamaniacs are screaming!! They should scream louder because that is the truth. Obama and his Pastor HATE America!! That is a fact! And no amount of whining is going to change people’s minds about that. Hillary or McCain. Never Obama

Posted by: lluluadorl | March 22, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

Bush is unpopular (so they say) and we have a war going on and the economy is not so great….
McCain should be losing to Obama by 25 points, and yet….he leads him! And this is before all his racist past is exposed.
President John McCain…get use to it.

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Kurt–I am totally serious–If this is true–This is starting to become a pattern for McCain. His trip to Iraq that he said was a slip of the tongue. (For three days kept confusing who was whom). Now this–Where did you see/hear this? At his age I wonder what would happen if he is early stage alzheimers or another cognitive problem. No jokes, where did you get this info?

Posted by: DQuinn | March 22, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Barack is a marxist – it’s what his church doctrine is all about.
Adios Obama.

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

Bill’s credibility is sinking fast, and with the news of the lies that Hillary’s told about her supposed lack of enthusiasm for the NAFTA treaty really shows us the depth the Clinton’s will go to get elected. Apparently she championed NAFTA. More lies!!! Aren’t you tired of it! How can anyone support out and out lying? Is character really a trait that matters? Don’t talk it!!! Vote It!!! We need change now!

Posted by: Ed Morrow | March 22, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

I, too, am an American Patriot, well-educated and 40. I am so well educated that I am not confused or duped by Obama. I am so well educated that I know who can fix this economy mess and be the most diplomatic to foreign countries. I am so well educated that I know who tells the lies. The supposed “well educated” voters that vote for Obama must have received on-line educations.

Posted by: Jenny | March 22, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Obama mentioned the president of canada, and canada has a prime minister, not a president. so he must be in the early stages of stupid.

Posted by: Kitty | March 22, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Mocopane,
If Obama is so devoted to this country he should take a challenge to do RE VOTE in FL and MI for the good sake of those voters.
If he did not , he should step aside and say good bye.
We don’t want a mamaboy and spoiled president.

Posted by: crisis08 | March 22, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Finally these cry wolves obama-ites have overplayed these spinning tactics (Barack was shaken up not because of Wright disclosures but because of these spins his campaign makes to anything and everything) and people have noticed.

Posted by: ak | March 22, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

Looks like Obama lied about Clinton’s unfavorable ratings too. check out the polls – Obama’s unfavorable ratings are going up! American people who are patriotic have seen through him finally! THANK GOD it’s not too late to get rid of this fraud!

Posted by: Jackson | March 22, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

If Obama and his pastor truly hated America, why would Obama go through the grueling process of running for president? Why would Wright be invited to the Clinton White House? Why would Obama deliver the most poignant political address of a generation? Why would all of his policies be on the mark for moving America forward?

Posted by: Mokopane | March 22, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

I think it is time for both Bill and Hillary to stop handling Obama with kid gloves. I am sick of his “snake-oil-salesman” tactics and the Clintons letting him get away with it for the sake of political correctness. They need to jump on this out landish story with both feet. They have allowed this sleeze-ball and his camp to go unbridled for too long. To compair Bill Clinton to Joe McCarthy is obsurd and goes to show that that bunch has not had to answer to anyone. Enough is enough.

Posted by: Barb | March 22, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

I hope McCain picks Michael Steele (black man) for his VP. Then the Obamaniacs have one less race card to play.
Michael Steele, a proud black man who loves his country! THAT is a man who could win over America.

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

What Bill was really saying is that two of the candidates know how to play nice in the sandbox, the other one keeps throwing sand and crying when the other two tell him to stop.

Posted by: rs | March 22, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

For those of you who refuse to see why Clinton’s comment was a smear and why this zero sum game will almost certainly deliver yet another war monger Republican to the White House: Obama is the one who’s patriotism has been questioned in recent months, and the Clinton campaign has already presented a Clinton VS. McCain contest as a battle of equals when it comes to national security….remember the 3:00 AM phone call? They have played what is normally the Republican fear card to generate doubt about Obama’s gravitas and now, openly, they are questioning his patriotism as well. In this way Clinton IS casting McCarthy-like doubt about Obama’s love of country and nobody should be fooled. The Clintons should be ashamed. Many of us supported them when they were victims of vicious right wing attacks. Now it seems that they learned all the dirty tricks of their political enemies and have adopted a scorched earth strategy that will have blow back not just for them for the the entire Democratic party. Thanks a lot Hillary and Bill! And thanks too to the Democratic Party leaderships of Florida and Michigan. You just had to choose this election cycle–one of the most consequential in this country’s history–to wage a battle over primary contest timing that will almost certainly disenfranchise voters and help deliver the White House to Republicans. The Democrats’ circular firing squad is quite a sorry thing to behold.

Posted by: cameotoo | March 22, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

mok, it’s because Obama wants to be prez. he’s campaigned more time than actually worked while he has held political office. Obama is a creepy, creepy man.

Posted by: Kitty | March 22, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

Poll result lag–It will be early next week before the poll results AFTER Obama’s speech are in.

Posted by: DQuinn | March 22, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

Hey Hillary’s paid staff here again. Run a good campaign.
How dumb you all are? Hillary is not a front runner and no chance to win. Bill is again saying that Hill and John love this country. Certaninly it means that he thinks Barack does not love this country. But why you all dumbhead would accept this?
Hillary being in this race now can be compared to a fox’s following a BULL thinking that bull’s ball will fall on the ground and he would be able to eat it someday. That is not going to happen. Of course, Bill would like Hillary to run against John but they should get a nomination.
Behind in states won, behind in popular vote and delegate count, these nonsense OLD BULLy is out there to insult the democratic nominee.
It’s outrageous.

Posted by: PurushSharma73 | March 22, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

Finally these cry wolves obama-ites have overplayed these spinning tactics (Barack was shaken up not because of Wright disclosures but because of these spins his campaign makes to anything and everything) and people have noticed.

Posted by: ak | March 22, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

Kitty
Obama is indeed stupid. Bill dint even mention Obama’s name, instead chose to ask people to focus on issues.
The Obama camp wants to justify Wright by saying his remarks are taken “out of context”….but here they say Bill is wrong…what an irony

Posted by: MattOhio-MI-FL-Messenger | March 22, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

Typical white person here…over 40 and college educated, and smart enough to know that Barack is a Marxist who does not respect nor love this country.
Wake up people!

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

Obama’s campaign is starting to sound like a woman scourned…

Posted by: kelly | March 22, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

Obama’s “my grandmother makes me cringe” speech was hardly the most poignant political speech of a generation. It was more like babbling drivel.

Posted by: Kitty | March 22, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

General McPeak is another politician and hopes to be Sec of State. Talked to a friend that was in the air force under him and said he was not a respected General. We do have some generals that are not qualified to be one and I think he was one of them. Just hope and pray that Hillary comes out on top with this, if not McCain will be elected. Obama has lost it the last few days. New things are coming out on Obama daily. Received two email this morning that about something I had not heard of. I think there is plenty that we will see in the next few months.

Posted by: barefootboy9 | March 22, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Barack gets the youth vote because they are either in college or fresh out of college and what Rev. Wright says is what their liberal college professors say everyday!
Can anyone say “Brainwashed?”….
Obama supporters are not impressive.

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Mokopane say: “If Obama and his pastor truly hated America, why would Obama go through the grueling process of running for president? Why would Wright be invited to the Clinton White House? Why would Obama deliver the most poignant political address of a generation? Why would all of his policies be on the mark for moving America forward?”
You must be listening to the media and believe all of this hype because if you’re listening to people on the street and more objective news, that speech was CRAP. The media hyped it up. The polls show that Obama is still sliding after that crap speech, especially since he told the white public how he felt about them “typical white person.” He’s a liar and a fraud. Your perception is distorted. The polls tell the story that Obama is not to be trusted or believed any longer. Typical white people in PA, WV, IN, NC, and OR won’t let this bigot in the White house or his hateful pastor.

Posted by: William3 | March 22, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

We have seen enough of Bush-Clinton-Bush.
We want change now. A great leader is offering his service to this nation. Go grab it. You won’t get a second chance.

Posted by: PurushSharma73 | March 22, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Jo: You don’t do your friend McCain any favors when you wrongly call Obama a Marxist. That’s just looney.

Posted by: Mokopane | March 22, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

President McCain in a landslide. America won’t elect a black man who is a black racist who hates his country.

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

Remember when Hillary thought it was going to be a cake walk and she didn’t campaign in the little states (not important), caucus states (didn’t matter). Well, Obama has campaigned in them all–And that has been the difference. A pledged delegate from Wyoming, Mississippi, or Rhode Island is just as important as NY. This is the biggest organization that either of them has run and he has done a better job of running his organization than she has. End of story.

Posted by: DQuinn | March 22, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

Jo- those kids also don’t have to support themselves yet and don’t care about the recession we’re currently in – they’re parents are struggling – not them. The people who are concerned about the economy vote overwhelmingly for CLINTON – see CNN exit polls. The other demographic supporting Obama are the rich left liberals who also aren’t affected by the recession (yet). the other demographic supporting obama are AA’s – who are supporting him because of race only. Clearly, obama isn’t the one to handle the economy and the people who need the economy to improve are voting for Clinton (middle class dems)

Posted by: Jenny | March 22, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

Mokopane, Trinity Church is based on the writes of James Cone who is a marxist. Barack is a marxist as he even wrote some of James Cone’s philosophy in his book.
If it walks like a duck…..
President McCain – get used to it.

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

Bush-Clinton-Bush-McCain. For all those Obama supporters, just thought I’d show you how to solve your Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton problem.

Posted by: Kitty | March 22, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

Kitty, lololol…..GOOD ONE

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

dude,
This was Hillary who helped this country to go into recession. She voted for Iraq war that is helping for this recession. This recession is a result of Iraq war that Clinton, John and Bush favored.
Barack will help remedy this recession.

Posted by: PurushSharma73 | March 22, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

“Bush-Clinton-Bush-McCain. For all those Obama supporters, just thought I’d show you how to solve your Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton problem. ”
So true, So true. But, at least we are certain it wont be a clinton again.

Posted by: Will | March 22, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

I’m tired of the hate mongers on this blog. So lemming-like the way you follow either Clinton or McCain. I’ll go with the candidate who has the polcies and demeanor to lead us forward, not backward. I’ll vote for Obama … again, in November.

Posted by: Mokopane | March 22, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

JO–Or Bill Clinton trying to tell American’s who a patriot is–Since he has never put this country before himself–

Posted by: DQuinn | March 22, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

Whether he meant it or not doesn’t change the fact: Obama IS anti-American, or he wouldn’t have stayed in Wright’s “church” for 20 years! He should bow out of the primary contest and step down from his Senate seat immediately.

Posted by: Alex11011101 | March 22, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Please do not offend the Obama People. They whine for anything, don’t look at them; they can get upset pretty easy. They are colorless, Very patriotic, very truthful, very smart, very honest and all the above. The typical white people need to shut up and continue working and pay taxes. Ok obamacans you can have it this time only for this time just to prove it. After four years of misery the typical white people will come to rescue and clean the mess.

Posted by: Ralph | March 22, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

Left or Right? Actually Bush/Cheney have taken this country so far right that the left is now the middle, and far left is now the left.

Posted by: DQuinn | March 22, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

I suppose Obama has proven that he can build a better mousetrap. He’s certainly snared enough naive voters to nibble at his tasty cheese. However, the end result isn’t that optimistic for the lured mice.

Posted by: Mark Lowell | March 22, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

Looks like more Karl Rove tactics from the Clinton camp. These Clintons are without shame. Hillary should have withdrawn long before now, given that the voice of the people has come out clearly against her; instead she is still playing dirty tricks and trying to smear Obama in her same evil ways as before. The sooner we can get rid of this Hillary witch the better we all will be.

Posted by: Bastanow | March 22, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

Barack Obama will get us out of a recession??
You people know NOTHING about economics, do you? lol.

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

Hillary supporter here who will not support Barack in November. He’s divided our party.

Posted by: JRB | March 22, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

Remember Bush was elected because he seemed like the kind of guy “you would want to have a beer with.” Not on his record, not on his character, and because his party swiftboated Kerry.
McCain has similar characteristics (except for his temper).
We have 2 great candidates for the nomination. The GOP wasn’t so lucky. So stop with the Dem ‘boycott’ stuff already; support your nominee with some degree of propriety and quit the spinning and whining and pettiness illustrated here. Otherwise, we’ll be handing the election to the GOP again. Not Paul, not Nader….the GOP.

Posted by: aross | March 22, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

The Democrat voters in Florida and Michigan have a right to be upset.
It was the arrogance the Howard Dean and the Dem Party that basically said ” your votes don’t matter any more because you will not tow the party line”.
That is a sad state of affairs in my opinion. The socialist tendencies of the Democratic Party have risen to the top. But to the detriment of the party and democracy in America.
Communism here we come should be the Democrat party slogan.

Posted by: Dave | March 22, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

World War II brought America out of a depression.

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

Let’s see, Barack will get us out of a recession, heal the nation of our racial divide and make us loved all over the world!
Gee, what is Act II? Parting the Red Sea and turning water into wine?
And you people are college educated?? Do you listen to yourselves? Ever?
ROFLMAO.

Posted by: Jo | March 22, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

Neither were born in Illinois. Both were educated by life’s challenges. Both were faced with wars not of their choosing. Both had to confront racial divides. Both emerged from Illinois. Both Great men of stature.

Posted by: Thomas | March 22, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

Bill Clinton’s remarks about anyone’s patriotism offends me. He like Cheney chose to defer when the opportunity to prove their patriotism was there. IMO–Clinton has never put country first–I find it offensive that he has the gall to now tell Americans who he considers a patriot. If I want someone’s opinion I will ask the men and women who didn’t choose the safe road, but have earned the right to criticize this government by offering their lives to give me this freedom I have–and that includes Rev. Wright! Since Bill Clinton had his chance and failed the test–He should keep his mouth shut! While I consider Rev. Wright’s comment offensive, this marine has earned the right to say what he wants in this country.

Posted by: DQuinn | March 22, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

I wish just once the media would stop responding to all this negative trash from the Obama campaign and realize it’s just crap to put Clinton on the defensive, and it isn’t working!! Bill Clinton was speaking before a small group of veterans who are usually strong supporters of McCain, and telling them that Hillary is just as much a patriot as McCain, end of story. Sorry, Obama, you weren’t even in the conversation, he doesn’t campaign for you, and he has been a lot more gracious to you in speaking of you than you have ever been to him. So go away with your attempts to sensationize every little thing the Clinton campaign does, it isn’t working. The Reverend Wright clips will remain seared in our minds long after this race is over, all the way to November if you’re the nominee, and your desperate attempts to change the subject show just how little intelligence you accord the American people. That’s the mistake of arrogance, and I am so happy that Americans are now paying attention and seeing the man you really are.

Posted by: Grammy Barb | March 22, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

I am amazed that Obama attacks common sense. I have read it many times and do not see what anything detrimental in the words.
Now, in light that Obama threw the person who loves him and raise him under the bus… what is going on here?

Posted by: Julie | March 22, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

The idea of a first lady who’s not proud of America until her husband is leading in the polls and being Obama’s closest ‘advisor’, sends chills up my spine. The idea of Obama inviting Rev, Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton and their cohorts to the White House makes my skin crawl. Worse than Obama’s cringe and comparison of his white (he did emphasize her skin color) grandma to his America-Damning pastor.

Posted by: Douglas | March 22, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

This whole discussion is senseless. He Democrats! Wake Up and smell the coffee! We ac still lose the election in november as long as we continue to fight among ourselves and berate to very capable presidential candidate the republicans are sitting quitely, taking notes on how to destroy us come november. Think they can’t? Well that sort of thinking (or lack there of) gave us President G.W. Bush! SHUT UP and COME TOGETHER !

Posted by: Bill Valentin | March 22, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

America is not ready for a Black President..Face it Obama its your folks like Sharpton,Jackson,Wright that have caused a huge divide in this country and it will be hard to forget it easily..There is so much of reverse discrimination that its become pathetic..This country is made up of immigrants from all over the world..These immigrants have come here and lived the american dream by working hard and honestly,whereas the blacks keep blaming others for their faults because its the easy way out..The blacks have the you owe us attitude but that wont work anymore..Obama will not win the white house because of all the divide he himself has created..He can only play the race card for so long,but come election day even if all the blacks voted for him,the rest of the country will send him a clear flipping message and that is he will never be the first black president period…..

Posted by: JC | March 22, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

I am surprised that we are still wasting our time discussing this.Why would any right thinking American vote for that opportunist Obama is beyond me.Obama refused to break ties with his pastor because he agreed with every thing that idiot said.Just know that a vote for Obama is a vote for his pastor.I have been a Democrat all my life but will never vote for Obama especially after seeing all they have been doing to the Clintons.I cant believe that they want that empty suit Obama to represent us.They will surely loose.

Posted by: Iffymens | March 22, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

The Democrat voters in Florida and Michigan have a right to be upset.
It was the arrogance and communist tendencies of Howard Dean and the Dem Party that basically said ” your votes don’t matter any more because you will not tow the party line”.
See the dictatorial message in what he said.
That is a sad state of affairs in my opinion. The socialist communist tendencies of the Democratic Party have risen to the top. But to the detriment of the party and democracy in America.
Communism here we come should be the Democrat party slogan.

Posted by: Dave | March 22, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Hi I just want to say I hope one of the Democrats win. We sure don’t need a “shell shocked, old man” running our country

Posted by: Jenny | March 22, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Obama is overly sensitive and desperately in need of some distraction. His 20+ years nodding in Rev. Wright’s pews and his contradictory attempts to cover it up with unseemly references to the grandmother who raised him and racist America will not go away. Obama is done. He may find a way to hang onto the nomination but the GOP will crush him. He will never be president now.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | March 22, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

America is not ready for a Black President..Face it Obama its your folks like Sharpton,Jackson,Wright that have caused a huge divide in this country and it will be hard to forget it easily..There is so much of reverse discrimination that its become pathetic..This country is made up of immigrants from all over the world..These immigrants have come here and lived the american dream by working hard and honestly,whereas the blacks keep blaming others for their faults because its the easy way out..The blacks have the you owe us attitude but that wont work anymore..Obama will not win the white house because of all the divide he himself has created..He can only play the race card for so long,but come election day even if all the blacks voted for him,the rest of the country will send him a clear flipping message and that is he will never be the first black president period…..ps.You can call me a racist but I dont give a freaking rats tail..hahahahaha..you will lose Obama

Posted by: JC | March 22, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

I read Clintons comment and fail to see even a hint of controversy. I really dont understand what Obamas camp is talking about? This makes no sense, but then again not much in this campaign does. Obamas people sound paranoid.

Posted by: roberincharlotte | March 22, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

America wasn’t ready for a dumb president either, but we got one! Wake up and smell the coffee JC–more delegates, more votes, climbing in super delegates–Unless Obama makes a serious mis-step he is the dem nominee…so get over it.

Posted by: DQuinn | March 22, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

Bill has his ire up.

Posted by: Thomas | March 22, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

Now that was an interesting perspective a radio talk show host is now presenting to his listeners. He has changed from rep to dem. He stated he is voting for Hillary Clinton because he thinks she is a weaker candidate than McCain but she is a better candidate than Obama. He thinks republicans need to ensure Obama does not get the nomination just in case something happened to McCain. That is the first time Ive heard that and it is eerily the same perspective a lot of Clinton supporters are taking just from the opposite side of the fence. Are we starting to now see the choice of republicans as McCain best, Clinton second best, and Obama no way?

Posted by: DCVoter | March 22, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

is Bill Clinton love this country? He was letting terrorists came to US soil & trainning them skills of fly that led to 9/11. He used the Oval office as dating platform and his sexual scandle made the worst mockery of our country in the world. do he has any credibility to talk about patriotism? Yes, there are words and action. Pastor Wright was just words, Bill Clinton was taking actions.

Posted by: brightofeyes | March 22, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

The Obama people OBVIOUSLY are reaching for anything, and I do mean ANYTHING, to shift attention off the Jeremiah Wright story. Please……

Posted by: Scott Hansen | March 22, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

For those who don’t know, Bill Clinton is a LAWYER from the South.
He knows bloody well what he is saying, EVERY WORD.
Bill Clinton is as calculating as Hilary Clinton, equally as dismissive, equally as derisive, and equally as DIVISIVE, and race baiting!
From before the first vote was cast in Iowa, Bill Clinton has been dismissing Obama’s candidacy as a ‘roll of the dice’ or a ‘fairytale’, etc.
Imagine an Harvard graduated Lawyer and 12 YEARS OF SENATE EXOPERIENCE a ‘roll of the dice’? lol
If our top university can’t produce a leader who can run a nation of 300 million, while Chinese can leader a nation of ONE BILLION more, then America is in serious trouble. And Barack Obama can save it. lol

Posted by: New Yorker | March 22, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

Are the Obama people having an issue with understanding the English language? Or are doing it on purpose? As if I did not know the answer.
My understanding of what Bill Clinton said is: I think it would be a great think if we had an election where you had two people who cared about their country and are devoted to it can actually stop the bickering and start talking about the issues.
So, to me, he is dishearted about the way the ELECTION is headed just like the millions of us who feel the same way. Now, had he said “where “WE” had two people” it changes everything. Maybe then we can say that he is suggesting that there aren’t two people. Once again they read into someting that is not there.
Example: It would be a great think if we had many marriages where you had two good people who loved each other, and who could sit down and work things out instead of bickering and holding grudges.
What ever it is I think somebody is trying very hard to stuff a pillow in Bills mouth.
BTW the title of the Speech “More Perfect America ” is not English. If it is, then I must stop correcting my daughter when she says “mommy you’re the bestest”.

Posted by: ruthmatters | March 22, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

WAY TO GO BILL CLINTON. ITS ABOUT TIME HEAD HONCHOS LIKE YOU PUT AMERICA TO THE TEST. DO THEY WANT A TRAITOR OR A LOYAL AMERICAN RUNNING THIS COUNTRY. ITS TIME TO PUT ON THE GLOVES PEOPLE. STOP DANCING CIRCLES AROUND THE TRAITOR. HIT HIM WHERE IT HURTS AMERICA. OBAMA AND HIS CLAN ARE NO TRUE AMERICANS. THEIR FILLED WITH HATE AND RECENTMENT TOWARDS US. LETS PUT THEM ALL ON A SHIP WITH NO TURNING GEAR, JUST STRAIT OUT OF DODGE. SUPERDELEGATES DONT BE MISLEAD BY TRAITOR BILL RICHARDSON… THAT SPEECH WAS NOTHING BUT A VEIL HIDING THE BRIDES TRUE BLACK HEART, YES BLACK HEART. AMERICA IS CALLING OUT TO PATRIOTIC AMERICANS, AMERICANS WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONE TO TERRORISM, AMERICANS WHO WORK HARD EVERYDAY TO LIVE THE AMERICAN DREAM. LETS NOT STAND BY AND LET AMERICA BE ROBBED FROM UNDER OUR FEET BY THESE ANTI-AMERICAN TRAITORS AND TERRORIST. REMEMBER THE COUS THAT OFTEN OCCUR IN AFRICA, THATS EXACTLY WHATS HAPPENING, WITH OPRAH AND OBAMA ON THE FRONT LINE. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND PROTECT HER FROM EVIL DOERS AND SAYERS..

Posted by: M G | March 22, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

The summary of Obama’s speech was that we, typically white people, should get used to having PAstor Wright around the WH!!!Obama is sick in the head for having the audacity to tell us that! What arrogance! After hearing all his hateful speech. Sorry but Obama will never get near the WH. He is a mean rascist!! Would he have thrown his grandam under the bus in his speech if she were black. The idiot Obama likens the entire AA community to Pastor Wright. He is a racial champion!

Posted by: lluluadorl | March 22, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Race, faith and politics
Americans you should be proud of your nation. You made it possible to defeat the most evil racists ever, Adolf Hitler and his Nazi followers. I suppose that you cannot even imagine what would have happened if the Nazis had won the battle of Europe? Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright – violence does not always create violence. Sometimes it`s necessery to use violence to reach peace and to prevent racism.
I got an unpleasant feeling that Obama in his speach recently, without ever expressing so clearly, presented an unspoken threat – if you don´t vote for me, being a black candidate, it will not be possible to prevent racism. Am I the only person who felt that way?
Norwegian

Posted by: Mary | March 22, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Bill isn’t running for President. But, if you want to say he is tied to Hillary then don’t get all pissy when Obama is tied to Wright.

Posted by: TheGreatRube | March 22, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

A typical white person is the same as a typical black person. They are both overly opinionated humanoids.
yellow,red,and orange also.

Posted by: Thomas | March 22, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Mary, I think the polls show that many people felt he as trying to make white voters feel guilted into voting for him. Combine his statement with those of surrogates claiming there will be rioting in the streets and the black voting bloc will abandon the party, and well, it is easy to see that people will perceive the subtle threats. But I think Americans will not fall for that and will not cower down to idle threats.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 22, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

BUSH MAY HAVE MADE OF MESS OF THINGS, BUT I TELL YOU WHAT, HIS LOYAL AND LOVE FOR THIS GREAT COUNTRY HAS NEVER BEEN IN DOUBT. GOD BLESS OF AMERICA AND PROTECT HER FROM THE ENEMIES

Posted by: M G | March 22, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

All these people judging Hillary based on Bill should be careful. If we judge Obama based on Michelle, Obama would be in serious trouble.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 22, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

Sometimes I yell “Do you think we’re stupid?” at the TV news’ pundits and commentators and talk show “hosts”. And then I read these comments on the blogs and then I think well, I guess we are stupid. As long as we continue to buy in to the divisive tactics being used by both parties and campaigns we will get the “leadership” we deserve. Unless you are up in the top 1% tax bracket in this country life has been not that great for the last 8 years. It is in those folks’ best interests to have the rest of us at each other’s throats arguing about race, gender, religion, he said-she said and on and on. When are we all going to wise up and stopped being played? There are no quick fixes – no candidate has all the answers. No one can make change alone. Race-baiting, name calling, truth twisting & spin is all counterproductive and none of it addresses the real issues and problems we face. The media and radio show hosts concentrating on lapel pins and guilt by association and tears and campaign rhetoric from affiliated “spokespeople” just muddies the waters so we don’t concentrate on the important issues. So until the people in this country decide to come together to find solutions instead of finding differences our country will continue to suffer. So it is way past time to wise up and start working together – we are human beings first, Americans second – race, gender, party affiliation, religion, age (all the things the pollsters love) are all things to separate us and keep us from uniting to move this country forward.

Posted by: Janet | March 22, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

Anyone that still believes Clinton is an answer for this country is wacked. We have seen far too many times the evidence of the divisive tactics, sense of entitlement, my way or the highway etc. that all mirrors the last eight years of Bush cowboy politics. Bill is now just a parody of who I believed him to be when I raised funds for his campaign. This country needs to move forward not backward. I’ll take my chances with heartfelt leadership. I’m proud to be supporting Obama. This Dem. will never again mark a ballot for a Clinton.

Posted by: Michael | March 22, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

Some of you are saying we should band together regardless of who the nominee. I’m more of a independent who votes for the man and not the party, even though most of my life I have voted democrat most of my life, but refuse to vote for a man who I feel is wrong for our country. I don’t love any of the three but I could vote for Hillary or McCain, but never Obama. He will never be elected and he should forget running again. He would never get this far in the future since the people have found out about him. There will be a lot more dirt coming out on him in the next few weeks, mark my word. I don’t know one single person that is going to vote for him and I know a lot of people.

Posted by: barefootboy9 | March 22, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

Who is Bill Clinton again?

Posted by: Mary | March 22, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

I wonder if McPeak was as outraged at John Kerry when Kerry said Obama should be our president because he was black?
Thats a heck of a lot worse than anything Bill Clinton said.

Posted by: Vince | March 22, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

It says so much about this election and the complete lack of leadership that I would be called a fool for my political beliefs. Matt, this is America. Do as you please and accept the responsibility for your choices. We all have to live within the rules and laws or suffer the consequences, thus the problem with Michigan and Florida. This “fool” will still support the politics of hope over the politics of lies and deceit.

Posted by: Michael | March 22, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

Michael
There is nothing wrong with HOPE and CHANGE….it is all started nice….but when it got ugly, Obama is stammering and slipping…he is being very arrogant and dismissive of an opponent….American public is not welcoming this type of negativity from Obama….that is the way I see it

Posted by: MattOhio-MI-FL-Messenger | March 22, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

MG…..BUSH IS and ALWAYS has been a TRAITOR..He was a DRAFT DODGER during Vietnam.And so was CHENEY..When asked why he never served in Vietnam, CHENEY replied. “I had better things to do”. BUSH joined the National Guard and went AWOL shortly there after. BUSH and CHENEY both belong locked up in a federal prison, in lock down 23 hours a day for the next 100 yers.

Posted by: Pat M | March 22, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Obama is the solution, he has a secret weapon “speeches” 1- The speech for peace in the middle east. 2_ The speech for peace in Irak. 3) the speech for a new democracy in Iran, North Korea, etc./ 4-The speech for fixing the economy,5- the speech to fix the economy, 6- the speech end poverty, 7- the whine speech for the typcal white. and then he can go walk on water upto his knees only.

Posted by: Ralph | March 22, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

OBAMA’S strategy:
If things don’t go your way just cry RACE, RACE, RACE, RACE….
I heard Obama’s (Damage Control) speech, just more talk about RACE AND RACE AND RACE AND RACE…..
I’VE HEARD THAT VICTIMAT CRAP ALL MY LIFE, ALL THE STRINGS ON MY VIOLIN ARE ROTTED
Is this what the next 4 years are going to look like Race, Race, Race????
Enough of putting on this guilt trip on the Americans and blame it on Clinton

Posted by: Jerry Costa | March 22, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

The Democrat voters in Florida and Michigan have a right to be upset.
It was the arrogance and communist tendencies of Howard Dean and the Dem Party that basically said ” your votes don’t matter any more because you will not tow the party line”.
See the dictatorial message in what he said.
That is a sad state of affairs in my opinion. The socialist communist tendencies of the Democratic Party have risen to the top. But to the detriment of the party and democracy in America.
“Communism is Alive in America” should be the Democrat party slogan.

Posted by: Dave | March 22, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

So dosomeresearch, did you research Michelle Obama’s thesis where she also blames white society for all the black problems? She calls the typical white person the White Oppressor. She believes everyone OWES the lower class Blacks something because of all the years of the White Oppressor. Obama’s true agenda will come out as the racist issue unfolds.

Posted by: didsomeresearch | March 22, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

Some of you are saying we should band together regardless of who the nominee. I’m more of a independent who votes for the man and not the party, even though most of my life I have voted democrat most of my life, but refuse to vote for a man who I feel is wrong for our country. I don’t love any of the three but I could vote for Hillary or McCain, but never Obama. He will never be elected and he should forget running again. He would never get this far in the future since the people have found out about him. There will be a lot more dirt coming out on him in the next few weeks, mark my word. I don’t know one single person that is going to vote for him and I know a lot of people.

Posted by: barefootboy9 | March 22, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

Dave – I read Michelle’s thesis and understand her views completely.
I don’t see where she blamed anyone. Instead she spoke of her experiences which were real and it helped shape who she is today. Does that mean she is unpatriotic? Of course not. I didn’t even need to read her thesis to understand that. Look at our history past and even more recent. Check out the books in the libraries, search the internet, look at the negative shift in our status in the world’s view over the past few years.
I love this country but I view it without the rose colored glasses. Sort of like the way I look at my kids :-)
Our country is not perfect, and we have done things that we are not so proud of but we have done a lot more things that we can be proud of. This country is mine and I love it . . . warts and all.

Posted by: dotheresearch | March 22, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

Obama should not be judged on anyone else’s comments/actions but his own.++++++++++++Well if that is how you feel then Hilliary should not be judged by what anyone else says either, but knowing how things work, these people that are closest to these people do what they are told, and they the heat, see #### runs down hill,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Posted by: ATYPICALWHITEWOMAN | March 22, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Correction: Response should have been made to “didsomeresearch” and not Dave.
I read Michelle’s thesis and understand her views completely.
I don’t see where she blamed anyone. Instead she spoke of her experiences which were real and it helped shape who she is today. Does that mean she is unpatriotic? Of course not. I didn’t even need to read her thesis to understand that. Look at our history past and even more recent. Check out the books in the libraries, search the internet, look at the negative shift in our status in the world’s view over the past few years.
I love this country but I view it without the rose colored glasses. Sort of like the way I look at my kids :-)
Our country is not perfect, and we have done things that we are not so proud of but we have done a lot more things that we can be proud of. This country is mine and I love it . . . warts and all.

Posted by: dotheresearch | March 22, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

I feel that Mass. voters should demand that John Kerry and Ted Kennedy vote for Hillary. She carried the state and have been reading that people think the super delegates should vote according to how their state voted. I don’t understand how these two knot heads were ever elected anyway. They say democracy but don’t practice it.

Posted by: barefootboy9 | March 22, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

Like in those countries under development, American election seems to be driven by the news media rather than the candidates. It seems that the new media picked Obama for some reason for their own interests, and keep pushing him to be the candidate. Have you noticed how many many more times Obama’s face shows up on their news coverage than Clinton’s? That itself is an unfair campaign and I consider to be banned. The news media should be mandated to cover both camps view on equal footage. The stupid general public is being brainwashed by all these news media, especially CNN and Politico.com. Not sure if they were paid by Obama campaign, or received some promise to get a preferential treatment of some sort when Obama is eleceted as the President. Let’s be wise and be on our own judgment rather than paying attention to those biased and pre-calculated remarks and coverage of those news media.

Posted by: davidk | March 22, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

The desperation of the Obama campaign is showing. How many times can you play the victim without looking ridiculous. Honestly, his campaign (which had pretty much gotten a free ride until about a week ago), needs to grow a spine. The whining is pathetic. Stand on the issues, talk about the issues, and quit playing the sympathy card-it doesn’t work and makes you look weak. (which you are!)

Posted by: beachnan | March 22, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

I don’t want a President that willingly listens to a racist bigot spout hate against white people for 20 years. You say it didn’t brainwash Obama? You are kidding yourself. This is danger beyond all dreams (nightmares)and you Dems better wake up.

Posted by: Bill | March 22, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

I feel that Mass. voters should demand that John Kerry and Ted Kennedy vote for Hillary. She carried the state and have been reading that people think the super delegates should vote according to how their state voted. I don’t understand how these two knot heads were ever elected anyway. They say democracy but don’t practice it.

Posted by: barefootboy9 | March 22, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

Haven’t not read this article or comment I feel the head line tells me there has become an open season on Mr.Obama I know he will pervert wherever he’s our President are not My question Remains, What does America Want?

Posted by: t.v.ed | March 22, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

My, my the Obama campaign is offended everyday. Seems like now even if they “think” someone might have referenced Obama, it is offensive.
Is everyone supposed to just stand back, remain silent and let him use bloc votes and undemocratic caucuses to “run the table” unimpeded. Seems like it.
But, it ain’t gonna happen!
If Obama had as much stuff slung at him, as the Clinton’s have for the past 16 years, he would probably be under a table somewhere in a fetal position.
Oh ye “of little tensility”!

Posted by: Mike in Texas | March 22, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

Obama and his campaign are guilty because of there association with the Pastor, not wearing American flag pin clip, not showing respect for the national anthem and off course Obama’s wife for the first time in life finding how great America is…
OBAMA YOU ARE GUILTY

Posted by: GS | March 22, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

I am sure John Kerry and Ted Kennedy are thinking if they will be able to win the next senate election after supporting OBAMA. The state of patriots will decide their future.
Good judgement senators.

Posted by: GS | March 22, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

Let’s say J. MCcain make it then WHAT?
10 billion of month for the war? we can handle that.
There will be 90,000 homes this year empty in detroit alone. we can handle that.
Unemployment is at it highes.
we can handle that.
Energey cost cotinnue to raised
we can handle that. If mr. Obama Pulls out I can understand. AS the President Dance.

Posted by: t.v.ed | March 22, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

“I got an unpleasant feeling that Obama in his speach recently, without ever expressing so clearly, presented an unspoken threat – if you don´t vote for me, being a black candidate, it will not be possible to prevent racism. Am I the only person who felt that way?”
No. I felt like I was being emotionally blackmailed & that for some reason it was racist to question Obama’s relationship with Rvd Wright.

Posted by: Mark | March 22, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

First, the mass media, knew about the Pastor, and church issues, where he has attended for 20+ years, and contributed 2000. 00 dollars a week, to this church, that gave its highest award to Louis Farrakhan. Mr. Obama’s wife suddenly became proud of America, once they started voting for her husband, and his association with Mr. Rezko in Chicago, is as crooked as any other politician has been accused of…the question of possible racism issues, Connections to a man who, amongst other things, raised more than a 250,000.00 for Mr. Obama’s campaign. When confronted with this, he initially denied his longterm connection with this man, and initally denied hearing the inflammatory remarks of his Pastor, that married him, performed Baptism on his Children…Mrs. Clinton did not create these things, Mr. Obama did, and as people have pressured Mrs. Clinton to be responsible, then so should Mr. Obama.
If the Voters of this great Country cannot see, that though very eloquently spoken, and an issue that needed to be discussed years ago, and continues to need to be talked about in the future. Yet, as I was saying about Mr. Obama’s speech, it was a well timed, get my campaign out of trouble speech. This was needed to offset his staying in a Church for over 20+ years, calling his Pastor “a father figure” and “crazy Uncle” but he couldn’t find his way to back away from such a anti-American, racist driven church? It just doesn’t make sense!
If you think, that the Republican Party will not have a field day with these and other issues, during the Presidential Campaign, Mrs. Polosi, and the DNC, you are really, really mistaken. Should we call you or switch parties due to the possiblility of making in-roads into some small RED STATES? Mrs. Clinton has won in 99% of the Large States it will take to win the Presidential Race. Unfortunately, Mr. Obama has not. He in several years, after clearing his slate of these controversies, may be electable in the future, but as a freshman Senator, he is just not prepared to play hard ball, with the Republican Party. Mrs. Clinton has been there and done that, when it comes to investigations, and knows how to fight the big fight. This is certainly not a myth…

Posted by: larry996 | March 22, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

To hear Nancy Polosi the Democratic Speaker of the House, say to honor the will of the voters…Makes me sick. As, the will of not one, but two States are not being counted. If this were the case, the votes, would put Hillary Clinton at just 100,000 votes (possibly) then Mr. Obama. It is clear to me, that to disenfranchise these voters, no matter who wins is totally un-democratc. If my sources are correct, the Florida date was changed by the Repulican controlled Government, if true, then, wouldn’t it be fair to let the results stand, as both did not campaign, but both WERE on the BALLOT. The voters of Florida have indeed spoken, and have fallen apon deaf ears. Also, Michigan, would do a re-vote, paid by private funds, thus taking away the excuse that the DNC cannot afford to pay for a re-vote, due to using this money for the actual Presidential race. There must be fairness to all the voters, not the cronies that made these bad decisions, to be counted. Even the candidates, or should I say Mr. Obama should be over-ruled to protect the Constitutional right to be counted. It seems, just as the issue I mentioned about Mr. Obama’s church and Pastor, were known in 2007, no one in mass media would report it, can anyone say voter manipulation? Florida and Michigan voters and delegates should count, there still is plenty of time, yet, Mr. Obama “the great Uniter” is already dividing the Country by leaving out two whole states. If you stand by your principles, than you would not be afraid of the POSSIBILITY of losing, but, living, and standing by your Campaign promises, if you don’t, then it is all about power and winning at any cost, the cost of two Democratic Primaries…is this the change you are refering to Mr. Obama???!!!
First, the mass media, knew about the Pastor, and church issues, where he has attended for 20+ years, and contributed 2000. 00 dollars a week, to this church, that gave its highest award to Louis Farrakhan. Mr. Obama’s wife suddenly became proud of America, once they started voting for her husband, and his association with Mr. Rezko in Chicago, is as crooked as any other politician has been accused of…the question of possible racism issues, Connections to a man who, amongst other things, raised more than a 250,000.00 for Mr. Obama’s campaign. When confronted with this, he initially denied his longterm connection with this man, and initally denied hearing the inflammatory remarks of his Pastor, that married him, performed Baptism on his Children…Mrs. Clinton did not create these things, Mr. Obama did, and as people have pressured Mrs. Clinton to be responsible, then so should Mr. Obama.

Posted by: larry996 | March 22, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

If the Voters of this great Country cannot see, that though very eloquently spoken, and an issue that needed to be discussed years ago, and continues to need to be talked about in the future. Yet, as I was saying about Mr. Obama’s speech, it was a well timed, get my campaign out of trouble speech. This was needed to offset his staying in a Church for over 20+ years, calling his Pastor “a father figure” and “crazy Uncle” but he couldn’t find his way to back away from such a anti-American, racist driven church? It just doesn’t make sense!
If you think, that the Republican Party will not have a field day with these and other issues, during the Presidential Campaign, Mrs. Polosi, and the DNC, you are really, really mistaken. Should we call you or switch parties due to the possiblility of making in-roads into some small RED STATES? Mrs. Clinton has won in 99% of the Large States it will take to win the Presidential Race. Unfortunately, Mr. Obama has not. He in several years, after clearing his slate of these controversies, may be electable in the future, but as a freshman Senator, he is just not prepared to play hard ball, with the Republican Party. Mrs. Clinton has been there and done that, when it comes to investigations, and knows how to fight the big fight. This is certainly not a myth…

Posted by: larry996 | March 22, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

the other stuff that bill is talking about is the black guy , so it will be an all white thing none of that racist stuff will intrude into the race. he a sly closet racist this forum is full of them

Posted by: BOB | March 22, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

The Clintonian group has been playing fiesta politics for the longest time. As a minority and a female, I now see the other side of the Clinton’s disgusting tactics. Using shameful tactics, nefarious moves, and attack words against Obama make me more convinced that Obama truly represents me. Should she -Mrs. Clinton- aka Puppet Lady win the nomination, I will vote for the other party’s candidate.

Posted by: Ana Lane, Orlando, FL | March 22, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

Obama openly accepts discrimination against the whites by his close association with Rev. Wright. He felt perfectly comfortable throwing his white grandmother under the bus. He used her as the white racist counterpart to his black racist “old uncle,” Rev. Wright.
Obama has a poor judgement in making this comparison. He can choose his church but he can’t choose his white grandmother.
Many of us will pick Hillary or McCain, rather than Obama. Many of the states that Obama won are leaning toward McCain, such as Georgia, SC, CO, UT, WY etc. Obama cannot beat the Republicans. Hillary has won most of the major democratic states.
GO HILLARY!

Posted by: tigerjcs | March 22, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

GS—very well said. I think white people (and I am not white, BION) are sick of the double standard and not having the luxury to say what they feel without being lambasted, ostracized or losing their jobs. Obama, although he will not be our next President (thankfully), did do us a favor by running. He opened racism up for honest debate for the first time perhaps in history. I am sure he didn’t plan it that way, but his pastor was the catalyst. The honesty coming from some quarters (see Jesse Jackson) is amazing and refreshing to behold.

Posted by: Diane Estrich | March 22, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

Look who is calling the kettle black? GD America to you, my friend…

Posted by: Art | March 22, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

Obama, it’s time for you resign from the race. You are a proven liar and you have hurt the democratic party. Please, take your “GD America” pastor and go back to Trinity church.

Posted by: carlson | March 22, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

Typical Clinton politics: start “the other stuff” then stand back and in fake shock at how the disgusting “other stuff” got into the campaign. The Clintons started all this “politics of personal destruction” against Obama in South Carolina and have continued since then. They know they can’t lower Hillary’s negatives or raise her positives so they are raising Obama’s negatives. The result will be a pox on both their candidacies and a loss of the presidency to McCain.
If Hillary doesn’t quit now, she will give the presidency to McCain. But of course she will not quit. Her personal ambition is more important to her then her party or her country.

Posted by: lorax | March 22, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

It is truly amazing how soon the tide changes. Americans were singing Bush’s praises when we invaded Iraq, but I knew it would fade when Americans started to lose their lives. Why did I know that? Because history repeats itself, and people are fickle. President
Clinton was almost impeached, and he has a say in this campaign! Something needs to be changed, or rewritten. No one running for president should have a spouse who has been a former president on the campaign trail. Futhermore, rewrite the qualifications for president, and then maybe a man like Obama won’t seek the nomination. The reasoning was that he wouldn’t get this far, so we will tolerate him. He continued to win, and now there is a problem. Why do the Clintons desire to reside in the White House again? I remember the good times, but I also remember the bad times. But American is so obsessed with keeping Obama down. The Clintons should never occupy the White House again. If Obama is not qualified, Hillary is not either.
Hillary was my choice until I saw her open the pages of her play book. Obama still stands with class. American we are divided. How can we love America and not love each other? Ignorance is prevailing in a country that is a world class leader.

Posted by: shocked | March 23, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

Obama has now:
1) Renounced his “friend” Tony Rezko.
2) Renounced his “friend” Jeremiah Wright.
3) Renounced his grandmother by insinuating she was racist.
4) Been endorsed by a man, Bill Richardson, who owes everything he is (politically) to the Clintons.
As a lifelong Democrat I do believe I’ve seen enough, more than enough.
If Obama wins the nomination then it’ll be an easy choice for me to select John McCain in November.
You see, I no longer really care what any of the issues are… I’d just like to see a little character in the White House.

Posted by: Michael | March 23, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

Waw !
Here we go again! Bill,Hillary, Bill.
If one is saying this here the other one will say that there.
Its that disease that they believed she will be our president!
A mornarchy America.
Trust me there is chance for two Mornachy families doing whatever they want even if it’s puting our country in trouble and geting away with it.
With this attitude she and her husband will have more destruction to America than the other mornachy family if you know what i mean

Posted by: Frank Matto | March 23, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am

it’s very clear that Obama is lieing about what has been going on in his church ,and for anyone to believe this sermon is the only sermon in which his pastor has shown his racist view’s for white’s, you would have to be death and dumb. I also believe Obama love,s this country, but for him to try and make the american people he himself is not a racist is also a lie. But the most important part is [ TRUTH] for this election and he is not a truthful person,and not the man to lead this country. i am white and not a racist, and i believe that to stop racism in this country is work together and take racism out of the church. god said love thy brother as thy self. racism has no place in the church.

Posted by: CARL ORR | March 23, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am

NewsFlash: Bill Clinton was just quoted as saying “it would be nice if in this election we had an EXPERIENCED woman and an EXPERIENCED man competing for the presidency”. Outraged by Bill Clinton’s insensitive comment, the Obama camp issued the statement that Senator Obama has been in touch with his feminine side long before he entered the race. They also added that he watches a lot of Oprah whom he considers a typical black woman.

Posted by: jeff | March 23, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am

Women over 40 becareful, I saw on tv one woman said she listen Obama talked about 2 minutes and she started crying.
She did not even feel ashamed to admit it.
I don’t know it is because she is at the mid age crisis or what?
And,,,, she decided to vote for Obama.
Other thing also a boy about 7-8 years old he said : It looks like a dream to me.
He did not even understand about politic.

Posted by: crisis08 | March 23, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

Bill Clinton is often credited with having one of the savviest political minds out there. He absolutely knows what he is doing with his latest round of comments: he is smearing by innuendo.
What this report does not include is the information that Bill Clinton was specifically commenting about a McCain/Clinton general election to an audience at a small VFW hall:
“I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country,” said the former president. “And people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics.”
By implication: Obama does NOT love this country and is NOT devoted to the interests of this country.
By implication: “All this other stuff” is negative stuff about Obama. “Our politics” is not Obama’s politics, and he is an intruder.
I write this for those readers who may have just missed the innuendoes. But I’m not naïve; I realize many others just don’t want to acknowledge the malicious intent, and/or even approve of it.
Well, as offensive as Clinton’s comments are, it’s equally offensive to me that he assumes we’re so dumb we wouldn’t see through his tactics. To use one of his lines, give me a break.

Posted by: CommonSense | March 23, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am

The McCarthy comment is laughable. Obama does not have the stuff of which presidents are made and this fact is emerging with greater clarity as time passes. Many people that I know who voted for Obama in their primaries are wishing that they had voted for Hillary. There is fear that the Democrats will hand the election over to the Republicans. If Obama fails to get the nomination, will there be racial unrest? Would his loss be attributed to his skin color rather than his lack of readiness to lead? If Obama wins,would he be able to compete with John McCain’s experience and Patriotism? Will he be able to win over the Independents and disatisfied Republicans. Rev. Wright is and will be his Nemisis. Rhetoric does not equate with ability to lead-especially when the words do not match the actions.

Posted by: SAL | March 23, 2008, 3:13 am 3:13 am

Your kidding right? Nowhere in the Clinton speach did I hear Obama’s name mentioned. I am a republican and even I can see this is just a reach to get Obama’s name back out there after failing polls. This is what makes the Obama camp shady. Alot of talk and twists to confuse people into thinking he is the right person for the job and if you don’t vote for him your a racest, I think not. He is a danger to our country.

Posted by: Rick | March 23, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am

Hey Rick,
How is Obama a danger to our country? And be specific. Been drinking that Right Wing media koolaid have we?

Posted by: Bill | March 23, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

LMAO! at SAL!
If Hillary is so ready to lead, why has the Obama campaign been so sucessful against her? Huh? With all that Clinton horsepower, she should have swept the floor with him. Read some analysis of just how badly the Clinton camp has blown it, and how poorly organized they’ve been, then get back to us on that one.
Ready to lead? You mean how she’s flip-flopped on major issues like Iraq and NAFTA? You mean that 3:00am phone call she talked about, where she got it dead wrong by voting for the Iraq war?
Give me a break, Clinton is politics as usual, and she’s no more ready to lead than any of them. Oh wait, maybe I’m wrong, she does know the floorplan of the White House. Please.

Posted by: Bill | March 23, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

Bill, you asked how come the Obama campaign has been successful? Hope your mind will be open to the truth.
Answer: The Media: Chris Mathews, Keith Olberman, Anderson Cooper etc.
Case and point. Ms Ferraro, a member of the campaign of Clinton words were twisted to be racist. Keith in his show blasts Sen Clinton.
A day after, the clips of Sen Obama’s spiritual adviser appears on TV – saying GD America. Less than a day after, Keith invites Sen Obama to his whow to explain.
The above is only one of the numerous instances that MSNBC and CNN has been complicit in sweeping Sen Obama to power Michiavilli style.

Posted by: rgutty | March 23, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

It is so sad that even when Bill Clinton literally praise Obama and say nice things about him to get him out from his current problem, he is still accused of being either racist or saying something damaging to Obama’s campaign. It is the same reason (fear of racism)news/medias are worshping Obama as if he is a God coming to salvage America. If Obama is such a great leader with the ability to unite all of us then why his campaign exhibiting ongoing symptoms of paranoid ideations! Since Bill Clinton seems very friendly person willing to talk to anybody, it would not be so hard for a well known uniter like Obama to just call him to clarify his comments rather than constantly accusing him as if he can not even exist in his own country. At least Bill Clinton is always proud of America regardless of whether people supporting him or downgrading him and he has experienced both during his life time.

Posted by: Shima | March 23, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

It amazes me how people forget what this race is really all about: The Supreme Court. The next President will almost certainly nominate 3-4 new Judges to the Highest Court in the land. Also, some 120 judges who have been sitting on their hands, while congress refuses to give them and up or down vote, will finally GET that vote. Thank GOODNESS there appears to be an excellent chance now that NEITHER Uh-OhBama OR Hillarious Clinton will EVER become President, because John McCain is the ONLY one who will nominate judges who will NOT legislate from the bench—judges like Roberts and Alito. Thank goodness for John McCain!

Posted by: Antisocialistantifascist | March 23, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

Only a self-serving, self-important, stooge would find problems with President Clinton’s remarks and then post an ego driven statement citing McCarthyism. I guess that sums up my opinion of General McPeak’s remarks. I had original thought the charges were made by someone with some credibility. I’m afraid his remarks show how completely out of touch someone like him can get.
This is also showing a heightened sense of desperation which the Obama campaign has been showing since Senator Obama’s dirty little secret was brought to light. The continuing hypocracy of Obama and his campaign is a reminder for people to research the position and background of any candidate before they buy in to a slick campaign that is strong on rehtoric and weak on background qualifications, personal and political. If you have a strong background and strong qualifications you don’t need to attack every single word about you or invent reasons to smear your opponent or their family.

Posted by: Edward King | March 23, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

It would be naive to the extreme to assume that Bill is not completely calculating in his remarks. If he did not wish to question Baracks’ patriotism why did he mention love of country at all? Because he is trying to imply that of the three remaining candidates only McCain and the wife do. This is Bills second incident of dropping a stink bomb in a room and crying the smell is out of context or you didn’t smell it right.
You see Bill Clinton is a liar. I recall how he stood before the nation and denied his involvement with Monica Lewinski, and I don’t allow justifying it as a lie any man would tell. It is not. In his case it was the reaction of a person who sought to retain power. It was the reaction of a person without the moral fortitude. It cost us two terms of George Bush.
Time had allowed me to wash out the taste of the betrayal and disappointment I felt as I saw the first President I could call my own destroy the end of his administration in deceits and obfuscations. Time didn’t however make me forget the flavor, I detect it again, but this time it makes me sick.

Posted by: Albert Johnson Jr | March 23, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

I also remember McCarthy. To say bill Clinton reminds him of McCarthy makes me wonder if the General knows what he is talking about. Have you no Shame?
Also the press seems to rationalize everything Obama says favorably. Nobody gives the Clintons the benefit of the doubt.
the majority of these posts seem to be about other issues. Can’t people stay on topic?

Posted by: sam y | March 24, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

The comparison to McCarthy is valid. It’s about stooping so low as to question someones patriotism – the republicans have been doing it for years and I’m really surprised Bill Clinton would do that.
It’s pretty interesting how this works actually. Bill Clinton is able to say whatever he wants, he can say things that Hilary is unable to. And if it raises too much of a stink she can back off from his statements and say ‘We all have passionate spouses..’.
I think Clinton’s a pretty good guy and has been the model of what an ex-president should be like with his tsunami aid work, the Clinton Global initiative etc. But, make no mistake about it.. every word out of his mouth in the public arena is calculated by their campaign to somehow get Hilary elected.
It’s really interesting to me that none, not a single one of the big Democrat names have come out and endorsed Hilary. Kerry, Edwards, Dodd, Richardson, Kennedy, Gore.. none of them. What do you think that means about Hilary Clinton?

Posted by: Common sense | March 24, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

Bill knew exactly what he was saying; he’s a political machine at word play. Let’s see the video of Hillary saying she got off a plane in Bosnia under sniper fire (foreign experience), then show the actual video where no such thing happened. She continues to lie and get away with it because the media is afraid to take her on after she complained that she got more “bad” press than Barack. Of course it was because she keeps putting on the negative campaign while Obama refuses to show her baggage, he only responds to her negative charges. The republicans won’t be so kind! They will bring up every shocker that you aren’t hearing from Obama. Hold her accountable.

Posted by: Susan | March 24, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

Jo:
I couldn’t have said it better myself!

Posted by: reaganfan | March 24, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

all of you who are claiming there was nothing wrong with Bill’s statements can’t be that naive, you are just trying to play dumb, right? Just like there was nothing wrong with his comments about Sc right, and Hillary’s comments about MLK, please, most Americans have no problem in detecting Bill and Hillary’s subtle dishonesty of dirty politics, right up there with the picture her campaign sent around and her comment “As far as I know he isn’t a muslim” Obama will win because we are tired of the Clintons’ shenanigans and lies

Posted by: tiredofthelackofknowledgeofvoters | March 24, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

As a Democrat . I saw the last years of the last Democratic Presidents term wasted on this kind of bashing back and forth . Lets stop thinking out tomorow . Put the Clintons back in history where the belong . Its almost over , Obama will have the delagates in a few weeks .

Posted by: H. Bennett | March 24, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

Why do we give more media attention to the frivolous mistakes of the Clintons when Bush and his evil friends literally get away with destroying the constitution and torture.
I suspect the media has indeed done its job to brainwash the american public so they can continue(corporate America) to rape the country.
I actually think Clinton supporters are the enlightened ones and fed up with this crap.
Unfortunately the naive and the crazy evangelicals are still under the evil influence.

Posted by: IIIiiiIII | March 26, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am

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