Obama: I’m Not Running For VP
ABC News’ David Wright, Sunlen Miller and Andy Fies Report: Sen. Barack Obama pushed back hard Monday against the notion of a "dream ticket" with him in the number two spot.
In recent days, Sen. Hillary Clinton and former President Bill Clinton have both floated the idea of a joint ticket as a way to settle the nomination, suggesting that’s where the race is headed.
On a conference call with reporters Monday, Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson argued Obama hasn’t passed the "commander-in-chief test" but suggested he may pass before the Democratic party’s convention in Denver this August in time to be considered as a vice-presidential nominee.
"We do not believe that, as of this point, Senator Obama has passed that key commander-in-chief test," Wolfson said.
"Senator Clinton will not choose any candidate who has not, at the time of choosing, passed the national security threshold – period. But we have a long way to go between now and Denver, and it’s not something that she is prepared to rule out at this point. But certainly anyone who is chosen as vice presidential candidate needs to be prepared to be commander-in-chief," Wolfson said.
Today, before an energetic crowd in Columbus MS, Obama not only made clear he’s not interested, but also suggested the Clinton’s offer is presumptuous and offensive.
Watch the VIDEO HERE
"With all due respect: I have won twice as many states as Senator Clinton; I have won more of the popular vote than Senator Clinton; I have more delegates than Senator Clinton," Obama said. "So I don’t know how someone in 2nd place is offering the vice presidency to the person in first place."
Obama also questioned how the Clinton campaign could argue, in the same breath, that he is not ready to be commander in chief.
"I don’t understand," Obama said. "If I’m not read how come you think I’d be such a great VP."
In a May 1992 interview with CBS, Bill Clinton outlined his own criteria for VP, saying that the most important quality is finding someone who would be a good president "if, God forbid, something happened to me the week after I took office."
Obama argued he is better equipped than Clinton to serve in the Oval Office: "The most important thing when you answer the phone at 3AM is what kind of judgment you have, not how long you’ve been in Washington. And I believe I have shown better judgment than Sen. Clinton."
Obama suggested the Clinton VP talking points are an effort to hoodwink the electorate, by suggesting the voters can have both Clinton and Obama.
"Am I clear? I want to make sure I’m absolutely clear," Obama said. "You are going to have to make a choice. Are you going with the past or the future?"
As if to make sure he was being crystal clear, Obama added once more: "I am not running for Vice President."
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There is no question in my mind that Obama will be called to testify. It is about time Brian Ross started to peel back the onion on Obama. So far, he’s had an easy ride. Things are beginning to change.
Posted by: Nia | March 10, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
The more I read about Obama, the more shocking and ugly this starts to get.
Posted by: Jeff | March 10, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Obama is GREAT!!!! He really put HIlary in her place……what audacity to offer VP to him when she is in 2nd PLACE!!!!
Posted by: michaelinphilly | March 10, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
The deviousness of the Clintons – both of them – takes my breath away. The degree of maneuvering and manipulation they are capable of is absolutely astonishing. This was apparent when Bill Clinton was in the White House and would become apparent again if they manage to weasel their way in at the DNC. Enough already! Go away! You won’t have my vote under any circumstances.
Posted by: Brenna | March 10, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
That’s what i’m talking about.. NO WAY IN THE HELL!!!!!
Posted by: Lawrence | March 10, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Thank you for putting her in her place. Her claim of foriegn experience is centered on Irish peace claims which was just mocked by the Irish government and a Nobel winner this weekend as not being true.
Posted by: james | March 10, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
The “hoodwinked and bamboozled” line sounds almost like a line that Denzel Washington says in the movie “Malcom X”. Does Obama know something about “hoodwinking and bamboozling”? We may find out from the Rezko trial.
Posted by: rs | March 10, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
THE INCREDIBLE NONSENSE OF THESE TWO CANDIDATES WILL BE THE DEMISE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. CLINTON CRITICIZES OBAMA AND SAYS HE IS NOT READY OR EXPERIANCED BUT FEELS HE IS READY TO BE VP? CLINTON IS THE MOST HYPOCRITICAL LIAR & MANIPULATOR ON EARTH -THE MORE WOMEN DON’T OPEN THEIR EYES TO THIS FACT- MORE OF THESE SAME WOMEN WILL NOT BE RESPECTED IN THE FUTURE. THINK ABOUT IT.WAKE UP LADIES & GENTS. NEITHER DEM IS READY OR QUALIFIED. MOVE ON.
Posted by: JACK | March 10, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
The real dream ticket is Hillary Clinton and John Edwards. Just makes me tingle to think of it. John McCain could not stand a chance with these two as opposition.
Posted by: Mary Miles | March 10, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Actually john mcCain would beat a Hillary/ Edward ticket. The democrats would lose the african americans, young, independents and several republican voters. Obama/ Edward is unstoppable. Because Edwards brings Hillary supporters and Obama maintains his.
Posted by: Obama4US | March 10, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
“I don’t understand,” Obama said. “If I’m not ready how come you think I’d be such a great VP.”
Says it all here. Sad how many people fall for the Clintons lame politics. Why are you all so comfortable with the wool being pulled over your eyes.
Posted by: Will | March 10, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
I could not believe that Hill has such nerves to even want to offer the VP to the guy who is running first. Please woman get tour act together.We don’t even want you on the Obama ticket, you too polirized. Yes your husband was a good president but we also remember all the scandal from the 90th.It’s time to get out of the race & let the party union for the Nov. againt Republican.
Posted by: L | March 10, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
The real dream ticket is Barack Obama and John Edwards. Just makes me tingle to think of it. John McCain could not stand a chance with these two as opposition.
Posted by: Deep Release | March 10, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
America wake up!
Obama is NOT qualified to run our country. We need someone that knows the ins and outs of Washington.
Let Obama learn the ropes and earn his presidency, then run.
I want a fighter and someone that will stand up for ALL Americans.
Obama is NOT experienced enough. Hillary was the first lady for 8 years and I am sure she knew how things operated in the White House. She traveled internationally. She’s a lawyer. She’s a senator.
Don’t discount all of her knowledge. And yes President Clinton is a PLUS. Our national debt was non existant when he was President. Money flourished. The country was very very positive.
Hillary will bring all Democrats together with Republicans. She is the only one that can do that.
Next time Obama.
Posted by: America the Beautiful | March 10, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
This country certainly does not need the likes of Obama..After 8 years of BUSH the last thing we need is Husain Obama..Anybody but Obama. He is a CHICAGO CROOK.
Posted by: Joe MUrphy | March 10, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Mr Obama’s immaturity is showing.
Posted by: s.b. | March 10, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
from the man whose judgment led him to get involved in a suspicios real estate transaction with a man well known to be under federal investigation
Posted by: tex | March 10, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
What a surprise – Howard Wolfson and the Clinton Criminal Clan are now saying that Obama isn’t ready to be VP, but maybe by August. These people really think Americans are stupid. Hillary Clinton does not get to pick a VP. She’s not the nominee. Her and her idiot advisors are laughable.
Posted by: Mike | March 10, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
I can only hope that the DNC understand the risk that Hilary want to put our party to…it’s a risk we cannopt afford to take. She to divisive, she will do & say anything to try to nock Obama down. Democrat we need to stand up & say no the Hilary banwagon. we had enough of this woman…Please do the country & democratic party a favor…go away…
Posted by: L | March 10, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
When will Democrats nominate a presidential candidate who lives up to the standards they set for Republicans? Hypocrisy abounds.
Posted by: jijalagi | March 10, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Obama is just showing his arrogance. He’s ahead and surely, Hillary’s supporters will bow down and worship him when and if he gets the nomination. What a disaster. It will be a contest to see who makes the first blunder, Him or his multi-talented wife. Now that she is finally proud to be an American, living in her million dollar home with her Princeton education weren’t enough for her.
Posted by: KC_1971 | March 10, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Neither Hillary or Obama meet the standards the Democrats set for Republican candidates. Bill didn’t meet those standards either. Why do Democrats demand qualifications of Republican candidates then fail to meet those standards themselves?
Posted by: jijalagi | March 10, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Great comeback, Mr. Obama. You put her in her place by just stating the facts–no snipe, no spin, and no fabrication. Just the simple truth. Just goes to show you’re a lot toughter than a lot of folks may think–and you don’t have to be like SHE is to prove it.
Posted by: way to go! | March 10, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Too late Hillary……….Lies will always eventually come back to bite you. You should be dizzy from all the spinning you’ve been attempting. It’s over sweetie.
Posted by: Joris | March 10, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Obama said he has good judgement. I just want to ask :
when he voted 129 times for present in Illinoi, where is his good judgement?
when he said he will meet wiht our enemy without precondition and clear purpose, where is his good judgement?
This is his judgement:invade our ally–Pakistan, make them become our enemy.
Meet our enemy, give them inspired talk and then sit down to hope, hope they become our friends.
I don’t think they are good judgement.
Posted by: ring | March 10, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
“I don’t understand,” Obama said. “If I’m not ready how come you think I’d be such a great VP.”
Great point Obama -You AREN’T ready and would make a lousy VP. What an Arrogant divisive person he is.
Posted by: geevill | March 10, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Hillary never said he would be VP … she was just being kind.
Posted by: Jackson | March 10, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
In addition to experience, Hillary Clinton has been tested and vetted. Obama is still an unknown with a glass jaw – surprising since he’s made it so far through the presidential primary. Of course, he’s been promoted and carried on the shoulders of his media “guru” Axelrod and Emil Jones who took legislation away from other state senators who had done all the work to give it to his protegee Obama. I’m sure he created lots of ill will as a result – others did the work, he took the credit. It’s been alleged that all of the legislation he cites was pushed through in a 12 month period – what was he doing all the rest of his time there?
He should look at the possibility of being vetted for the vice-presidency if and when it’s offered. That’s the best he’s going to do – it takes big states not those that are reliably republican to win this nomination. “Wishing and Hoping” that these small caucus wins can translate into Democratic wins in the general election is just that. A bubble that will burst when Clinton pulls way ahead in the popular vote – now separated by about 3,000 votes (remember how much money he spent in Texas to even get 47 % – outspending Clinton 4 to 1).
Also, Obama supporters, he’s so much smarter than most of you. If truth were told, he knows what the super delegates know. We’re heading for a potential train wreck here. Will he let his ego and arrogance stand in the way of a certain Democratic victory in November?
Posted by: twinmom48 | March 10, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
When Obama’s right, he is right. thanks for pointing out you are not ready and qualified to be VP Obama.
Posted by: geevill | March 10, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Obama must concede the election immediately. Run as Hillary’s Vice President. It is the only way you can gain the required expirience needed to run this country.
Obama you are tearing this party apart. It is your fault and yours alone. You must stop this and join under Hillary.
Posted by: tori | March 10, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Maybe he should “denounce AND reject”. LOL!
Posted by: ROB | March 10, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
tori – you must be a Clinton supporter if you think a call for the front-runner to step aside is anything but silly.
Posted by: Paul | March 10, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Rob – or maybe just “ignore,” exactly as most of the rest of us have started ignoring whatever spews from the mouth of a Clinton.
Posted by: Paul | March 10, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Obama is not running for V.P. he is running from Gitmo
Posted by: Terresa | March 10, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Hillary’s judgment should once again be called into question!
1st: It was staying with Bill for political gain!
2nd: The war in Iraq vote!
3rd: Agreeing to sign up for the rules that were stated by the DNC in respect to Florida and Mich.
4th: Destroying the Democratic Party for her win at all cost policy.
5th: Slashing and Bashing Obama and then wanting him to be her running mate.
And this is who you want as President, come on women of America look at who you are supporting. It is her judgment that needs be the #1 issue of this campaign. She has poor judgment that is the bottom line issue for all of us to examine
Posted by: America | March 10, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Mr. Obama does not have the experience to shred documents, Money Laundering, Drug Trafficking and making people disappear. If that’s the experience you are looking for, vote for Clinton. Please educate yourself –
OBAMA # 1 NOT #2
Posted by: AMY IN FIFE LAKE MICHIGAN | March 10, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
The issue here is why did she agree to those rule before the elections took place? Can any of you tell me why? If she did not agree with them; all she had to do back in August 07 is say I do not agree. I want the two staes two count in the process. Why did’nt she do that?
Posted by: America | March 10, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
I think Obama has a very good vision for America. But, only issue I have with him is his readiness.
The issues on which he stumbled last week were very trivial issues but those issues defintely challenged his credential and judgement due to lack of experience. He along with media were very successful in doing cover up by distracting voters by pointing to Hillary.
Good Vision but less experience can impair judgement. Obama may right on Iraq war today but it was his gut feeling and not a concrete proof.
The reason I support Hillary is that she proved everytime including the voting for Iraq war that she makes decision based on proof and not on the gut feeling. Hillary will also be a friendly face internationally and would project better image of US.
I think Clinton Obama ticket will be best for US.
Posted by: Humm | March 10, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
I want more details on this “commander-in-chief test” that Clinton keeps talking about. What kind of test is it, multiple choice or fill in the blank? I bet her test results are included with her tax returns ;)
Cheers!
Posted by: Matt | March 10, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
There’s really IS no stopping HRC. And there appears to be nothing she won’t do to win this nomination. For those who worry that she will irrevicably split the party, I wouldn’t spend too much time worrying about why she would do that. The answer is that she just doesn’t care. I shudder to think what having her as a president would be like–except to say it would be a real shock to those who can’t seem to see what she really stands for- her favorite cause; her favorite word – “I”. I went from supporting her, to questioning her sanity, and finally to deciding she’s plain “evil”.
Posted by: given up on HRC | March 10, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Bottom line is this, Tim. Clinton can’t win the nomination, unless superdelegates overturn the lead Obama has and will continue to have in pledged delegates. I simply don’t believe that will happen, therefore in my mind Obama is the presumptive nominee.
Obama will approach his decision about a running mate in the same analytical fashion his campaign approaches each state contest.
It is highly unlikely that analytical approach will point toward a candidate with negatives of 53, who is from a secure blue state, and who doesn’t add to his relative innexperience in any real way. My guess is he’ll go with a former/current governor or someone with recognized foreign policy credentials (and most likely not another another senator).
Posted by: Paul | March 10, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Bill Clinton’s SILLY comment of Dream ticket sounds like support to Tonya Harding.
Tonya Harding aims to enter White house ? Even a silver medal is too good for Hilary. Better to have someone inexperience than someone with so called 35 years experience with pack of lies.
Posted by: holy | March 10, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
The wick on the candle is burning down for the Clinton campaign. Lesson learned:
1. Never underestimate an opponent
2. Make sure you have a competent team that respects one another
3. NEVER DOWNPLAY HOPE
4. Be honest with the American people. They’re a forgiving bunch
5. NEVER, EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER try to act like you’ve won the game when you’re clearly not a winner at all.
Posted by: Joris | March 10, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Lookup (3:17) Enjoyed your post. So what trick do you suppose she’ll pull out of her sleeve 2-3 days before the Pennsylvania primary? She seems to have unlimited dirty tricks–but then she has had lots of ‘experience’ hasn’t she?
Posted by: Anonymous | March 10, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Jay – that’s great, except the Democratic nomination doesn’t work that way. If it did, the Obama campaign would have adjusted its strategies accordingly.
Posted by: Paul | March 10, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Anyone wanting to run with Hillary would be have to be a masochist at heart with big Bill looking over his\her shoulder at all times…Forget about Edwards. He’s too smart to get involved with that. He wants another cabinet position….I will resist recommending Spitzer even though he seems to fit in with Hillary\Bill crowd…
Posted by: John | March 10, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
I don’t want him as President, or as VP. For me, the clear choice is Hillary as President. And, if not her, than Go McCain Go!
Posted by: bw | March 10, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
I don’t have an agenda. Your guy doesn’t have a plan or a clue. I didn’t vote for the Republicans in the last two elections. Where were you when that was going on? sitting in your home waiting for the second coming? People say that this is the first time they have voted; they are the reason we are in a mess, not me. They stayed home on their sorry apathetic lazy butts and let the Republicans win not once, but twice. Now they have the nerve to whine about how things have gone in the last 8 years. Obama is not a saviour; he is a slick talker who could sell ice to Alaska. He has relied on all of this political correctness to save him from scrutiny and it has worked marvelously. He is not as pure as he leads us to believe, but anyone who tries to point that out is shouted down. Things go wrong, it’s Hillary’s fault or blame Canada, or it’s McCain or it is whoever else he can get to take the fall. Indeed. And like your candidate, you have to borrow words to chastise me like I am a child.I am not dividing the party; I have been a Democrat for longer than you can imagine. It didn’t take some magical messiah to get me out. Look at yourselves, you all are equally as divisive. It’s Obama’s way or no way !!!
Posted by: KC_1971 | March 10, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
I think Tori is kidding. I continue to put my trust in the American people that we are all not brainless, Ricki Lake watching, National Enquirer reading fools. Please don’t make me sorry for the trust. Senator Clinton has never in her life lead the response to a crisis situation. She will bring more Republicans to the polls in November than John McCain just so they can vote against her. She will say whatever needs to be said to win (as seen in SC.) These campaigns are the largest organizations these candidates have ever lead. This is their executive office trial run. Both Clinton and McCain at some point have run out of money and had to fired high ranking staff members because of their performance and they have had to completely re-tool their message. Does America have the time or ability to run out of money and make major changes in the middle of a Clinton/McCain administration? Barack Obama, on the other hand, has been steady from the start (Day One) and the organization he heads has raised the most money, generated the most enthusiasm, rallied the most people, won the most states, won the most votes, … Who has passed the executive experience test?
Posted by: TSnow27604 | March 10, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Jay – this isn’t the general election. Obama figured out a strategy for winning given the real playing field – as opposed to some metaphysical playing field the Clintons seem to be on.
Come time for the general election, Obama will then deal with those realities.
Posted by: Paul | March 10, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
obama statements will be the reason McClain is president in Nov. The Audacity of this guy to keep thinking the republicans will be voting for him in Nov. is astounding.
Posted by: TO | March 10, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Where was Obama’s good judgement when he voted presented over 100 times?
Posted by: Eric | March 10, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Humm
So you are as naive as the Clintons.
The person running second behind Obama picking the vice- president.
Spelling it out easy as 1, 2, 3.
This would be like the players of a baseball team picking the coach. Or the girs scouts of america picking their own troop master.
Now tell me are you that naive.
Posted by: bambino | March 10, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Well that settles it so no one can say now if Obama does not get the nomination that he was not offered the VP position, all they can say now is that he was and he refused.
Posted by: SJ | March 10, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Oh, I see why the ‘present’ votes bother the Clinton supporters so much now. Its because he really was present. They just can’t abide by anyone reporting the truth.
Posted by: Paul | March 10, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Jay, you know that in the General election Obama is going to win New York, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts because democrats always win those states. Obama also won Missouri which is a swing state. But Clinton acts like the little people don’t matter. People in the midwest and the south don’t matter. The only people that matter are the people that live in the big population states. She isn’t even campaigning in Mississippi, she is sending Bill. I want someone who can win some of the small Republican states and cares about everyone, not just the big areas.
Posted by: Jason | March 10, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
SJ – looking past reality for a second (just to see how the other half lives) and pretending Clinton is the nominee, I think she would have a hard time finding a running mate.
Who wants to be on a ticket with a candidate who has negatives of 53? She would go down, and take down whoever was foolish enough to agree to join the traveling drama show.
Posted by: Paul | March 10, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Hillary has as many voters as Obama, what makes him think they will blindly vote for him. I know I will be voting for McCain if obama is the nominee for the democrats or maybe vote for Nader anything is better than obama.
Posted by: TO | March 10, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Obama wants to Change the government.
Wants to be the first Black President.
Does not Care about the American People.
Does not Care about much if Elected, besides his own personal goal.
He has:
Lie to America on numerous occasions
He Has mis-lead Americans
He has proven he can not be trusted. By his word, deeds and actions.
He has for over a year ran around telling ameicans, the governments bad, the economy is failing, pointing fingers and blaming.
As a US Senator – He should stand there in Shame.
He has Proven he can’t commit to anything voting present on the majority of issues. A refusal to do his job, saying I do not care. Not taking a stand either way. (So he could blame others).
He has undermined the President, Disrespected the Position of the President, Publicly. With the world watching.
He has blamed the government for everything, wrong with the country.
So, every Senator, Every Congressman, Every Department, The VP and the President he has put down. Oh wait, he is a Senator, Doesn’t he feel ashamed of his part, and not doing anything but point fingers at others.
He whines and moans, then whines some more. he complains hillary is picking on him.
He whines the media does not like him, damn the media gives him the most favorable coverage of anyone of them.
I wish the media would Not make him out to be a liar, and give him some lousy headlines and talk down on him.
Mr Obama has his trump card to play yet.
Since he has whined so much, guess he will have to play it soon. Or keep grasping at straws. His I am a poor Blackman racist overture is to come. you think it will be in C minor?
Posted by: seah | March 10, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
This would be like me saying that I am going to be president come November and Christina Aguilara is gonna be the Vice-President.
Hey but check this out, what I’ve been saying for the past few months.
McCain/ Condi Rice ticket, now being mentioned in the press.
Posted by: bambino | March 10, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
For those who think Hillary Clinton will get the Democratic nomination shows the pathetic reality of those out of touch with common sense and how the REAL WORLD operates. Secondly, she’s too toxic to be considered for any executive position within Mr. Obama’s administration. Thirdly, after all the shenanigans during this current campaign, her Senator seat may be in trouble after New Yorkers see what she’s been hiding in her 2006 TAX RETURNS. You have to realize the truth in understanding our country is full of lemmings willing to follow those on the platform of untruths and manipulation. Unfortunately, nothing lasts forever and a new time has arrived.
Posted by: Joris | March 10, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
One must never count their eggs before they are hatched, by closing all doors in event of some unforeseen circumstance that may have you back on your heels playing ketchp in politics it can happen.
A day in politics can be a lifetime so Obama is rather silly in coming out strong now and saying thanks but no thanks, he cant tell what will happen tomorrow, a smart political always leaves options open.
He just slammed the door on his options, a bit cocky in his attitude so for his sake I hope he keeps winning all the time because on dent in the road and he will sure end up looking like a fool, and this brave stance about no VP for me I running for President can backfire, that boy really need to learn not to play this game.
Posted by: SJ | March 10, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Hillary doesn’t want to president for the good of the country. She wants it for her own personal AMBITIONS. Obama is serious about change and has the ability to inspire millions of people. It’s about time America had some aspiring to do. I can believe that Hillary has the audacity to talk about Obama being VP.
Posted by: SquirrelmanJ | March 10, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Jay – how can you say Obama doesn’t have a strategy for the general election? That’s a little presumptious.
According to Rasmussen, he holds a large electoral college lead over McCain. I don’t put a lot of stock in these early match-up polls, but I also don’t put a lot of stock in statements like any given candidate has no strategy for something that hasn’t even started yet.
Posted by: Paul | March 10, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Sorry, Barry, but Gov. Eliot Spitzer now seems a better fit for the Clinton empire!
Posted by: carl | March 10, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
People are forgetting that VP’s do absolutely nothing – maybe the youth here don’t remember George Bush Sr.’s vp who couldn’t even spell. Then there was Al Gore. What did he do? I think that’s her point. Give him the VP slot, unite the country, and let him learn OTJ (on the job training). However, I’m against this – he’s not fit to be even VP with his shady dealings and corrupt politics.
Posted by: Jenny | March 10, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Seah
So what world are you living, Hillary is the one whinning and crying getting people fire from the media. Get real and what difference is this than what Hillary is doing.
So I guess you are one of the few living in your own little dreamland
Posted by: bambino | March 10, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Oh please they all want it for their own personal ambitions so don’t believe that crap that they are doing it to bring about change.
There are many people that work in the background doing all sort of good making change daily in the lives of others that go unnoticed.
Clinton and Obama are politicians first and foremost so the both of them have their own personal ambitions as to why they want thins, so try and make it out as if one does not the both do.
Posted by: SJ | March 10, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
TSnow – I’m thinking Mark Warner or Tony Zinni.
Posted by: Paul | March 10, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Nice but I think we need Mark Warner in the Senate.
Posted by: TSnow27604 | March 10, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
The event of today with the NY governor can show how easily it is for one to fall from grace with the wave of the hand in politics.
That is why it is not good for any politician to be cocky thinking you don’t need anyone or anything, you have it in the bag as Obama’s attitude today is showing.
Yes he is running for president but it would of gained him more if he either ignored that subject of VP, or just said not at the moment let see how the race goes.
At the moment he is riding a wave and feels that he cant be toppled, some of his supporters are even feeling that way and cheering on his new attitude of today, but I hope they sit and look at how easily one political can be loved today and hated tomorrow once some dirt starts to fly, let just hope Obama has not dirt because its a long way to Nov still.
Posted by: SJ | March 10, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Jenny
So what VP experience has she had?
Monica had more experience as being the first lady than what she did.
She is out to smear the democratic party if she can’t win. Two faced-first she bashes Obama the she wants to put him on the VP pedestal. Yet another one of her tactics to confuse the super delegates in the process of endorsing Obama. But unfortunately the super delegates are not as naive as you.
Posted by: bambino | March 10, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
HRC must really be proud of her supporters. They are just as vicious as toxic as she is.
They make Rush Limbaugh look sane and reasonable.
Posted by: Jefferson Jackson | March 10, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Hillary Clinton & John McCain are both much better candidates than Obama to be our president. I don’t care about dividing the Dem party as much as I care about this country. Obama is not qualified or experienced to run the country, yet he just can’t wait at all to obtain more power. Compared to Obama, John McCain would also be a much better choice because he is much more experienced, reliable, and loyal to this country.
Posted by: yi001 | March 10, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Nope we are not toxic just smart enough to know that sometimes went you want all you may well end up losing everything. Obama should think about, he has not even crossed the bridge yet but he is buys burning them
Posted by: SJ | March 10, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
SJ
Why would Obama want to be her VP after all the bashing she has been doing.
That would be like you doing and support your worst enemy.
Yet another naive person.
In other words if came down to that he probably would not accept the VP roll. And I think about 68% of America would agree, and that’s being generous.
The people supporting this idea are Clinton supporters that are determined to have her as president regardless of what she has to do to accomplish this goal. She knows it and wants to leave the party smeared.
Posted by: bambino | March 10, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
“I still feel the supers will overturn and put their support behind Mrs. Clinton.”
They might as well endorse McCain.
Posted by: Jefferson Jackson | March 10, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
He is foolish, she made the offer so what all he had to do is ignore it let her talk, but coming out and acting cocky saying I am winning so you cant offer me anything is dumb.
What if he get tossed off his game we still have a long way to go, she will still win some states and no one knows what can happen he is acting as if he knows and we are one week away from Denver.
My position would of been to not say a work and continue on my game plan but slamming the offer and playing as if am better than you are, am ahead is the dumbest thing he could do at this moment.
Posted by: SJ | March 10, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
“she made the offer so what all he had to do is ignore it let her talk, but coming out and acting cocky saying I am winning so you cant offer me anything is dumb.”
She made the “offer” because she wants to trick voters into believing they could ge the “dream ticket,” by voting for her.
Ignoring her statement was exactly what she was counting on from Obama.
Posted by: Jefferson Jackson | March 10, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
If Barack Obama wins the most elected delegates, the most states, and the popular vote and super delegates nominate Hillary Clinton, I am done with the Democratic party. And none of you know me and how hard that will be because I am certainly not going to ever support a Republican. While I support Obama, if it were the other way around, I would hope the will of the people would be upheld. Since turning 18 I have voted for Bill Clinton twice, Gore, and Kerry. I remember where I was that night that the news media retracted their projections that Gore had won Florida. I was up all night watching and we all know how it felt when a few insiders took that election away from us. This is the same thing only worse in that it will be our own party doing it. There are many scenrios yet to play out but if this happens, I am done.
Posted by: TSnow27604 | March 10, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
yi001
Just FYI
No presidential candidate has or will ever be ready to run the country. None of the presidents have ever been president or vice president to be qualified therefore none of the candidate are experienced in running the country yet. Yet Hillary is determined to push this on the American people. If her being experienced as being the firsts lady for eight qualifies her as president the she will be going on her 3 rd term.
Posted by: bambino | March 10, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Where is the message of hope in Obama’s arrogant comment? What a jerk
Posted by: chasseur | March 10, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
^Ditto, TSnow27604, and I’ll go you one better – I’ve voted for every Democrat since McGovern. If the Dems nominate HRC under the scenario you paint, I’d be too embarassed to call myself a Democrat any longer, when they aren’t democrats themselves.
Posted by: Jefferson Jackson | March 10, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
This whole conversation is apalling. My concern is that the vitriol that is being whipped up in the Democratic party by the supporters of both Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton will cause us to lose in November. I think either of them would be good candidates. Their positions are not really that far apart. Let’s stop the name-calling and figure out a way to unite the party to win when it really counts!
Posted by: AT | March 10, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Why did Auchi donate to an Obama fundraiser in 2005? Did Obama meet Auchi during the spring of 2004? What was Obama’s role in Rezko’s request for a visa clearance for Auchi? And why did Rezko financially assist the Obama family less than one year later when they jointly purchased property in the Kenwood neighborhood of Chicago?
Posted by: Geevill | March 10, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Again, I just don’t understand you Democrats. You’d rather vote another party’s candidate then vote for your own if the particular candidte you support loses the nomination. Just like spoiled children. If you really are true Democrats words like voting McCain if Hillary/Obama is nominated would never come out of your mouths. If you were true Democrats you would understand that it is the Democratic ideals that are most important not the personalities. I suspect many of you who are saying this are really recently joiners of the Democratic party dis-satisfied with GWB. Therefore, you have no real loyalty to Democratic values. Republicans understand are stay behind their candidate. They all will vote for McCain (yes, even Rush)in November..But Democrats would rather lose than see another Democrat win. Grow up. By the way, I am an Independent…mostly because of my disgust for politics in general. However, I believe if you are going to join a party be loyal to the party and don’t act like children.
Posted by: John | March 10, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
OBAMA’s MISTAKE, you don’t run for VP, you are offered the honor. Obama better turn on the foglights, because with the Florida revote the end game is in play. There will be a massive superdelegate shift after Florida. The Democrats deperately need Florida as well as Ohio to close the deal. So far, Obama doesn’t have the political maturity to close the deal. He better not shut himself out of the VP deal if he’s smart.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 10, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
All you Obama supporters cant you wake up and noticed that the Republican has just killed two birds with one stone.
The scandal with the NY governor is going to be the hole that sinks the Obama/ Clinton boat wait and see.
Posted by: SJ | March 10, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
I don’t feel sorry for you. It’s not your fault. You’ve been spoonfed all of your life with negatives and rhetoric that optimism is a foreign language for you. Plus, the parrot mentality with regurgitating what Rush Limbaugh has been geeking you up on doesn’t make things better. New language classes begin in January under the leadership of Barack Obama. Be sure to sign up.
Posted by: Joris | March 10, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Hillary is toast she must had lost her mind with her latest proposition which defies all good sense and logic. Thank goodness Barack has called her on it. How can you rip apart your fellow party mate with lies and half truths, denigrate him by applauding the qualities of the republican in comparison and then confoundedly offering him the VP position in spite of the fact that you trail him badly and already unequivocally stated that he didn’t possessed the stuff to to hold office. Bizarre!!This woman is not mentally ready to be president. Here’s a candidate that didn’t plan any contingencies for her own campaign past Super Tuesday. Is that the hallmark of a great president and strategist…I think not! If her striking mismanagement of her own campaign is any indication than we probably should anticipate the worst with her running the nation.
Posted by: Rialb58 | March 10, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
I believe Hillary Rodham Clinton is more electable. I think she has this country’s interest at heart. I pray she will not ask Barack Hussein Obama to run with her. Obama is NOT tough enough and we cannot afford the reality check he is overdue for should he become president. John Edwards would be a much better choice for VP.
Posted by: PROUDAMERICAN2008 | March 10, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Some of these comments are hilarious. It’s so obvious that this race has brought out the ignorant, the easily persuadable, and worse, those who appeal to fear (kind of like the separatists of old).
Obama does not need more experience to be President. Those who already know the “ins and outs” of Washington are those more likely to be part of the problem and not the solution. Lincoln and JFK were not experienced enough by today’s standards yet, because of their concepts behind the idea of change, well, history records what they did.
As to the Rezko issue, the facts of the case have shown that while he made a land deal with a questionable figure, he did not illegal. That’s a hell of a lot more than can be said about the Clintons in the Whitewater ordeal. By the way, didn’t anyone ever see the photo of Rezko and the Clintons together? Remember Hillary represented him in court.
As far as his approach to the “enemies” like Iran, the last 25 years of isolation policy should prove to anyone that the way it has been done in the past doesn’t work. Frankly all it’s ever done is create more hatred and more potential terrorists.
Lastly, Hillary’s time towards “experience” should be questioned. She does not nor should get credit by osmosis. Bill Clinton has that experience, not her.
I would make a wager that the majority of you Clinton supports are over the age of 40 (probably even older than 50) so this is what you know. It’s safe to you. As a gen-x’er, I should thank you for how you’ve handled Washington pre-Obama (Social Security in the toilet, immigration problems, more division in society, etc).
Posted by: Mike H | March 10, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
I don’t think the power hungry groups behind him would allow him to take VP position even though it is a more reasonable position given the facts that he needs more experience.
Posted by: nosense03 | March 10, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Hilary “Ready on Day One” Clinton badly underestimated Obama. The prohibitive favorite for the nomination six, eight months ago, might have thought she was ready on Day One of the campaign, but she wasn’t ready on day 395, when Obama beat her in Wisconsin and she had to lend her campaign $5 million that we still don’t know how her and Bill “earned.”
Hilary “The Fighter” Clinton so badly underestimated Obama that now she and her legions must strike below the belt just to stay in the game – the whole kitchen sink tactic that will backfire on her ultimately. This latest “Barrack can be my Veep” is just an sample of how she likes to fight – dirty.
Hilary “The Experienced” Clinton, so badly underestimated Obama that she had no plan to continue the campaign after Super Tuesday, and like a typical experienced Washington politician wants to renege on her statement that the Michigan and Florida primaries would not count.
So here’s what we get with HRC – someone who continually underestimates her opponents and then finds herself resorting to underhanded and unethical tactics.
Sounds like the “Great Leader” we’ve already got.
Posted by: Jefferson Jackson | March 10, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Obama & Richardson 2008 makes the most sense to me, with John Edwards hanging out until there is a Supreme Court vacancy and Joe Biden taking a high level cabinet position of his choice.
Posted by: malthusian77 | March 10, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
I don’t understand how you HRC supporters can be so disingenuous and deluded to characterize Obama as being cocky, smug, crooked, a backstabber, and an egotist…when you clearly know he’s not. If you appraise those descriptions descreetly and honesty you will conclude easily that these character traits are intrinsic to Ms Clinton’s character and that they are precisely the reason she is rightfully losing this race and won’t have a left leg to stand on if she some how steals the nomination. Wake up and be sincere for once.
Posted by: Rialb58 | March 10, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Obama is the man for this time.We need a change in the white house.If Hillary has thirty-five years,what have she really done that stand’s out.Obama brings hope to all of America.He is a inspirtration to many of the young/aged.He is the choice that our international government is looking to work with.Hillary is going on the popularity of Bill.With her dirty tactics I am sick of her.We don’t need to be devided the way Hillary is doing. Let’s pray for this country an all the people in it.We can thank GOD that we are the envy of other countries.
Posted by: Paul | March 10, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Mike H, please don’t blame us for all the ills of social security etc… it has been ignored for many years. All Obama supporters say NO BIG DEAL” on Rezko. But actually it is a big deal when Obama preaches about his change and the difference he will bring to Washington, when in reality, He is a dirty, corrupt, Chicago bred politician. Only difference is he has less dirt because he is a neophyte. Give him so time, he will make the Clinton’s look like mother Theresa.
Posted by: Jay | March 10, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Funny, while the Rezko trial goes on, and Obama gets thoroughly vetted, the Peter Paul trial, with very shady allegations against the Clintons, gets delayed until next March. Does anybody really want a sitting president testifying in an illegal contribution trial? Clinton is a poor fit for the presidency, and therefore is not fit for the vice presidency either … despite her familiarity with vice.
Posted by: malthusian77 | March 10, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Why can’t Obama easily win the Big Blue Democratic States?
Anyone?
He’s ahead in Red States that Satan would win in November before a democrat could.
He is NOT ahead in total popular vote – he is actually behind by 245,884 votes.
He is terrified of primaries and loves vote-limiting, confusion-ridden caucuses where 25,000,000 people have their state decided by 25,000. If he truly wanted the people’s voice to count, it would be popular vote – and THEN the Super Delegates decide. Not decide on what OTHER delegates will do.
Let the people’s choice be the determining factor. Let’s let Michigan and Florida have a primary again. Don’t limit the vote cause you can’t win when everyone has a regular chance to vote all day, NO REPUBLICANS ALLOWED.
He can’t win a straight, blue state, democratic only primary. And that is no Democratic win in November.
Posted by: 2009 | March 10, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
It’s so interesting that no matter what the subject these days – Clinton turning over her tax returns, Clinton’s distortion of her own foreign policy experience,or Clinton’s own call re: NAFTA to the Canadian government, some of her supporters go back to Obama and Rezko, he’s a Chicago politician, etc. instead of answering whatever the question is. It is Clinton who raises Rezok yet accuses Obama of dredging up Whitewater? Why would she/her advisors bring any of the past up over and over? Last week she was endorsing McCain – what next — she and Bill vacationing with the Roves? It’s all very bizarre – luckily Obama is cool and calm — I’d rather see him stay that way than resort to the histronics of the Clintons. I’ve defended, supported the Clintons for years. Too bad it was a waste of time. .
Posted by: auntiecairo | March 10, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Hey malthusian77, those choices of your match mine exactly. I guess Great Minds think alike ;).
Posted by: pt | March 10, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Obama have 119 delegate more than HRC which is a nothing as compared to clear position that MCCain had. So, almost 49% of voters are not convinced with Obama. Obama is as divisive as Clinton.
So, anyone who says Obama is a uniter is not aware of the facts.
It is Hillary’s misfortune that FL and MI are not counted giving an opportunity for Obama to claim No: 1 today.
Posted by: Humm | March 10, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Let me ask you Hillary supporters…Are you supporting her because:
A: She is the best candidate
B: You have nostalgia for the Clinton years
C: You want to resurrect Bill’s legacy from the awful Republican persecution
D: She is a woman
E. All of the Above
I would hope it is only A but suspect that many, if honest, would say E.
Also, ask yourself this…Would you have supported Hillary if her husband was not the ex-President? I suspect that most of you do not want to admit that the answer would probably be no if you were honest.
Also, ask yourself this..Are you okay with the co-presidency that will most assuredly result should Hillary be elected? Does it bother you at all that this same ex-President who was impeached for lying would wander the halls of the White House if Hillary was elected?
And before all you Hillary supporters bash me as a Republican or Obama-lover I am an Independent and currently support no one (unless Edwards returns to the race). I’m sure someone could come up with a list of questions for Obama supporters. The problem I have with the Clintons is that I’ve seen this act in the White House before. I simply have no desire to see it again. I suspect many Americans feel the same way.
Posted by: John | March 10, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
OBAMA WILL PICK HIS GOOD FRIEND, AND YES.. SHE IS A WOMAN, from Missouri
Sen Claire. McCaskill.She is a rising star, and would make all the Hillary luvers like myself already forget her.The Clintons carry too much baggage,Even her supporter Governor Spitzer today was caught in a sex ring; we want a clean slate.
Posted by: peggy | March 10, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Obama / Edwards would not bring in the Clinton voters…Obama is still not qualified ..he needs something that is call a mentor to guide him into Presidency …Hillary is correct in saying he is not ready he is not ready for the Presidency but possibly the VP slot…Clinton hinted at this before but Obama wanted the whole enchilada ..talk about power hungry .his camp did not want to cut into his prospects of a presidency…
Posted by: dellee | March 10, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
For someone who claims she has 35years experience and we should trust her with the economy, she should do the maths on the delegates, popular votes and number of states won. When she’s done, tell me who should be the VP. No one needs her she should run for governor. Forgot to mention she’ll soon be super delegate -1.
Posted by: Chan | March 10, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
So what if Obama is filled with inspiration and inspires the Youth…it is the older voting group that sre in the workforce and they are the ones that need jobs, food,,not inspiration this is not high school and we do not need a pep talk..we need real solutions ..the college age group will go back to their fanmilies if they lose their entry level job..but the ones who support families are looking for real solution to real problem not idealism…Obama is not a qualified candidate..he is as dirty of a politician as any other and I am not willing to take a chance to see hom much damage he can do on my dime..
Posted by: dellee | March 10, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
Neither hillary nor Obama will win this election. It has gotten too ugly. hillary is polarizing, she’s a manipulator and a liar, and Obama is black. That is why neither of them will win.
And yes, we know most of white america will not vote for the black guy, they would rather vote for the white woman because…..well, because she’s white.
They don’t care that she’s polarizing or lying, this is the kind of slash and burn politics they like. Just ask the folks in Ohio, and the ones in PA. You can even ask the scary latinos across the country, as long as they vote for the white ‘person’, male or female, they then feel safe and comfortable.
I know you heard the Congressman King from Iowa this past weekend. The white establishment in this country is running scared. Don’t be surprised at what you hear anymore, they will always protect their own. Sad, but true.
After watching the dems and lying hillary for the last two months, I’m completely done with them. hillary will never, ever get my vote, and I’m starting to see that slow wave across the country.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | March 10, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Hilary Clinton is all about Hilary Clinton and she is insanely desirous to step into the history books as the first female President and she will do or say anything to achieve this purely ego based goal.
Posted by: Willam Morris | March 10, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
this should NOT be about RACE or GENDER but who can go to Washington and change the culture; and bring about change.. in the form of policies ETC .
So i resent the people who feel the need to tell me I should vote for a woman because iam a woman.thats why we end up with Bush twice; I think the mindset of some voters do let down this great country.
Make your mind up about someone who you think can make a difference; and go into that VOTING BOOTH with some CONVICTION and VOTE for possiblity instead of FEAR.WE are Americans its time we stop being spineless.
this is the closest thing of the people having a voice, who knows! we might surprise ourselves.
Posted by: Anna | March 10, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Holy Cow
More New Math, DC? What’s wrong with the Old?
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 10, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
Bush is the most inexperience President in history so the last think Clinton should tout is her experience.
All of the Bush cabinet members were extremely experienced and look at where we are right now, Oil at $105, Gas at $3.50, MILLIONS of Americans facing foreclosure and an un-winnable war that costs a billion a month.
Presidential elections are not about ‘experience’, if they were Richardson and Biden would be the top Democratic contenders.
Hilary Clinton should be HONEST and say “vote for me because I want to be the first female President” and forget about trying to claim that ‘experience’ is what qualifies her.
Posted by: John Robinson | March 10, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Robinson said – “Presidential elections are not about ‘experience’, if they were Richardson and Biden would be the top Democratic contenders.”
Good point…. especially after this Saturday’s Tribune piece on Hillary’s illusionary ‘experience’.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 10, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
I dont get the attraction to Edwards as a VP running mate… he was unsuccessful in his re-election bid to be Senator, was a running mate with the failed Kerry run, and did not garner much of the primary and caucus tests in this race… could it be people do not beleive in liberal platforms unless it is a minority speaking it?… after all, you Obama supporters claim Edwards says the same things he does and he has a great deal more experience than Obama… he is more anti-lobby and pro change than Obama… and he knows more about how Washington works than Obama… hence he would be more effective in making change happen… so why would anyone support Obama over Edwards?… just something to think about
No commander guy, the math is not new… it is real numbers without any math… it just happens to be the real numbers the media is not showing you because it does not favor Obama… just more evidence of how the MSM is influencing the outcome
One day I hope the democratic party or the new party that may evolve from this fiasco gets smarter than the rep party. I might think about joining a party then… but for now, I can see the dems are just as stupid as ever with their bogus delegate system… after analyzing the real numbers, it is no wonder they cant seem to present an electable nominee more than twice in the last 40 years!… here is what I am hearing from a lot of voters in the democratic contests “if the dems cant stop fighting and put the two together, maybe a loss in Nov is exactly what is needed to shake things up so real change in the party can happen”
Posted by: DCVoter | March 10, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
The most votes for Obama have come from black voters in the Southern state primaries. But these Republican states are the least likely to vote for Obama in a general election. Far more critical are the Western states with their Latino vote, and the Northeastern states, all Clinton territory. If the Democrats want to win, they should go with Clinton. Clinton won the critical toss up states: Ohio and Florida. That is where the election will be won. Democrats need to stop being “pie in the sky” over Obama.
Posted by: Mary C | March 10, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
After watching the Obama arrogance on ABC news this evening, I have to say that he is not running for President, either.
Rather, Senator Obama much more resembled a tele-evangelist of the Jimmy Swaggart mode.
The laughable scene was even complete with the swinging and swaying crowd, hooting and hollering with hands raised.
The only thing missing was someone rolling in the aisles.
Good bait job by the Clintons, but I am surprised that Obama bit so easily.
Posted by: ken | March 10, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
DCV
What about Robinson’s comment….if experience was what Dems were looking for they coulda had Biden, Richardson or Dodd. Biden would open his mouth and sometimes interesting stuff came out.
Speaking of foreign policy experience, I bet Obama is kicking himself for missing out on an opportunity to go on a one day diplomatic mission to Macedonia with Sheryl Crow and Sinbad. That kinda experience would come in hand as he defends hid foriegn policy credentials against HRC.
See it was HRC that lead the Crow Sinbad delegation. Now she’s got that experience under her belt and O doesn’t.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 10, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
As an Illinois lawmaker, Barack Obama was one of eight state officials consulted on appointments to a state board which later became involved in what prosecutors describe as a fraud scheme, the Associated Press reports today.
That information was contained in a June 2003 memo from a national Democratic official introduced this morning as evidence at the trial of Antoin “Tony” Rezko, a Chicago-area developer and political operative facing corruption charges
Obama was on the same board Rezko was selling favors and extorting money to,he was on the board at the same time.Remember at the South Carolina debate where Obama stated he never had anything to do with Rezko except for one time he did 4-6 hours for a church group that had legal issues with Rezko.Now we find that Rezko is using the same board as Obama is a member of,Obama and Rezko bought real estate together,and Rezko was extorting campaign funds from people for Obamas campaign for US senate and his presidential bid.
Posted by: girlinvt | March 10, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
It hurts me to read some of these comments. “This is what Hillary is doing to the Democratic party,” I know some of these over-the-top comments are coming from “repubs” but its still hard to take because we are all Americans.
Posted by: terracotta | March 10, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
No it’s politics. For those of you too young to know, Obama fans should stop the whine, as Obama did the same political calculations to get into his first seat in Illinois in the first place. The incumbent was retiring, Alice J. Palmer. He was going to replace her, but when she asked for her seat back, he said he would sue. He’s gotten a lot of negative press for the way he conducted himself in his first campaign. All is fair in love and politics, and the Republicans will be ten times worse in the general election so get use to it. The problem is this generation has forgotten the way Obama got into his first elected position so now he can use the same campaign slogans and similar speeches and you think it’s all new. It’s all recycled.
Posted by: Betty martin | March 10, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
ELECTORAL VOTES are the key to win in a general election. States won and Popular Vote may not matter in a General Election.
John F. Kennedy in 1960 won only 22 states and did not win the majority of the popular vote and Jimmy Carter won only 23 states in 1976 .
Richard Nixon in 1968, Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996, and George Bush in 2000 won the Presidency without winning the majority of the popular vote.
Hillary Clinton has won more ELECTORAL VOTES than Obama counting the states she has won, including MI and FL or not.
28 Million people have cast their votes during the 2008 primaries, and 54% of voters have NOT cast their votes for Barack Obama failing to win the majority of the POPULAR VOTE
Obama supporters should consider that Barack Obama at age 50 or 54 running for President, the VP experience should enhance his possibilities. For instance, unlike his 2000-almost beating Bush- run, Al Gore failed miserably running for President in 1988.
Also, a week can be an eternity in politic as per Gallup poll quote: “More generally, 51% of all Democrats and leaners believe Obama will win, while 42% think Clinton will. But this marks a downtick in perceptions that Obama will emerge the victor; prior to Clinton’s wins in the crucial Ohio and Texas primaries last week, 70% of Democrats thought Obama would win.”
What Clinton camp is doing on behalf of undecided Super Delegates and the party leaders months before the Convention in Denver, is quasi similar to what John F. Kennedy did to unite the party during the 1960 convention selecting LBJ.
I just called Clinton a UNITER!!!
Posted by: Angel | March 10, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
Holy cow redux.
Angel is playing the fuzzy math card ala DCVoter approach.
The rules are what they are. For some reason the rules say the numba of delegates is what matters. Wolfson , Penn, et, all, said so himself.
HRC is behind in the delegates and mathematically cannot catch up. Fact.
So the Hillary campaign has comeup with all sorts of fuzzy math scenarios that no one can follow w/o several shots of whiskey.
The people people pushing the Hillary Math got ideas is so fishy that in the back of your mind your wondering if these people are supply-siders.
It s he kinda math they don’t teach in school. Its the kinda math you don’t have to understand – you just gotta believe in it.
That’s all.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 10, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
You Americans have to stand up and realise that you need different leadership whether Obama or hillary is to offer you that leadership is debatable.
But one thing for sure is that
if you do let a republican win this election(in this case mcain)rest assured you will be heading as a collective up the proverbial creek without a paddle.
Let it be known that the republicans will get into a war that you don’t need or a prepared for.
Lest you forget the dollar is at an all time low against all the major currencies,the american economy is on the brink,the housing sector is on its knees.surely you need change and that change is New leadership.
You need to rise up against you bipartisan tendencies and support one candidate.You have to make the hard decisions that America needs change one way or the other and that change is most definetly not going to come from a Republican whether you are a ware of it or not.So shape up or ship out mates.
Posted by: julio | March 11, 2008, 4:21 am 4:21 am
Clinton is in the number 1 seat. Big state wins that one must have to win the general election. Look at the possible electoral votes in the general election and look at the general election process, no caucuses for Obama; it will be the real deal. Since he isn’t interested in uniting the party, as he once claimed …
Posted by: AmazonTraveler | March 11, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am
Hillary is not spliting up this party and there are many of us who will not support Obama she has every right to remain in this race till the very end and don’t you think for one minute that her supporters will give up on her we also have waited a long time for a woman as smart as and caring as Hillary. so why don’t all of you just set back and let this play out and quit saying she should get out you are the ones spliting this party up.
Posted by: Bishop | March 11, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
Alright, more enlightenment from the “Progressives:”
Former Dem VP candidate Geraldine Ferraro said,
“If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept.”
Ferraro added that the press “has been uniquely hard on Hillary. It’s been a very sexist media. Some just don’t like her. The others have gotten caught up in the Obama campaign.”
Posted by: Another Shill | March 11, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
In the words of Sen. Obama ” this is silly season”. lol
Posted by: Dunbar | March 11, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
Obama is not qualified to be VP. He has no experience of his own and he has surrounded himself with advisors like Austan Goolsbee and Samantha Powers who also shoot their mouth off.
His judgement is also suspect, since he associated himself with men like Rezko and Auchi, even when he knew that Rezko was being investigated.
Posted by: pleaseanswer | March 11, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Good Obama response to the sheer stupidity of the varying Clinton attacks.
Posted by: Paul | March 11, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
And Wolfson has become little more than a walking spewer of continuous bile. In a way, the Clintons are lucky to have him, because he’s the only one in the camp who makes the Clintons look reasonable by comparison.
Posted by: Paul | March 11, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
What really bothers me are those persons, who like Clinton, state that Barack is not ready for the Commander-in-Chief title but can be VP and LEARN under Clinton. What happens, if she dies in office? Would Barack be ready then? Think before you speak or you can be established as a fool instead of just perceived as one.
Posted by: FacingReality | March 11, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Exit Poll in Mississippi asked the question
Should Hillary Clinton pick Obama as Vice-President?
57% of voters responded YES, 40% Responded NO
Among those 57% responding YES, 72% of voters were Obama Supporters
Posted by: Angel | March 11, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Hillary continues to try to discount Obama for lack of experience. Where and when did she acquire her presidential experience? I don’t think the role of first lady counts.
Posted by: Pam | March 11, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Just how arrogant can this guy be? He is introduced to the world during the Kerry campaign, writes two books, is senator for two years and has accomlished nothing and then decides to run for president? He’s going to have a very rude wakeup call; better seize his chance while it’s still there.
Posted by: Pri | March 12, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
I defy anyone to find a statement in which Hillary or Bill Clinton “offered” Obama or anyone else the VP position with Hillary, either directly or indirectly. I love the way the Obama campaign creates straw men for the childish pleasure of knocking them down. and they’re running th NEW, fresh, positive campaign…yea, right!
Posted by: Ruth | March 13, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
jayits my Opinion That We Lost The Only Person In This Election Thats Capable Or Runing Our Country George Bush Has It In Such A Mess Only Hillery Clinton Can Do The Job Surely Hope She Doesnt Run with Oboma She Could Run Independent And Win So Go For It Hillary Jay
Posted by: jay cox | June 4, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
GMA..do you need ratings this badly? This happened in March. This is almost September. Both Clintons have graciously accepted Obama and made plea’s to the party to unite and pledged support to him.
I am not a Democrat, so this is really not my fight, but I must say I am very disappointed in GMA for taking this route for ratings. : (
Posted by: imellag | August 29, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
…wow there are some sad, sad foolish little people in this group
Posted by: a | September 2, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Clinton should shut her F-CKING mouth. She is a stupid B-TCH.
Posted by: mikemike | October 8, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm