By Jennifer Parker

Mar 19, 2008 8:55am

Obama on Ferraro

I thought this part of Nightline anchor Terry Moran’s exclusive interview with Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois — where he addressed the racially-charged comments by Hillary-backing former vice presidential nominee Geraldine Ferraro — was particularly interesting:

"You think about the experience of whites in a place like Boston or Scranton, Pennsylvania," Obama said, "where, at time of economic stress and difficulty, suddenly blacks are moving in and kids are being bused, and there’s some sense that the economic competition is being tilted unfairly because of affirmative action. You think about her generation and her background, coming from a neighborhood in New York that went through some of those same things. And I’m sure that that is part of what’s in her mind. And it’s a mistake then to simply tag it as racist. It’s not– that’s not what’s going on."

Obama’s campaign did of course call for Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, to fire Ferraro, despite the candidate’s I-am-America understanding of her working-class resentments….

- jpt

User Comments

Jake, thanks for pointing out the continued hypocrisy in Obama’s using the race card as both sword and shield.
He says Geraldine is not racist…yet wants her fired. Nice.
This is what we have to look forward to with Obama.

Posted by: Alicia | March 19, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am

Lets say flip flop//
fire ferraro – well now I understand
I wasn’t there during the sermons – now I was
It is amazing how the media once again have fallen for this man’s words without critically thinking about he continually contradicts himself..
so who is the real Obama?

Posted by: saazny | March 19, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am

Give it a break Obama kids are being bused ? why don’t you Dean, Donna tell every one about your plan to seat Fl. and MI. the Min. you think you won this thing I hope Hillary takes it to the floor . You are one low down person I’d rather have a Rep. in office than you

Posted by: Bishop | March 19, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am

Jake forgive me if I am wrong but Obama fired the rev. and Samantha Powers correct?
…and he actually said Ferraros comments weren’t racist…they were just dumb…you can make dumb statements about race without being racist…
I think that is his overall point.
But everyone wants to get angry…and call each other the name that goes to the jugular.
Obama did not call Ferraro racist. That is the point… what people aren’t getting …I shouldsay …what older people aren’t getting is that there is a difference.
There is a difference between our own inherent ethnocentrism and stupidity and racism. Look at the words he chose when describing the two sides. He called Rev. Wrights comments for all intensive purposes descpicable …yet has said Ferraro and his grandmother’s comments were racial stereotypes…or just unfortunate…or inaccurate.
He was forced into that speech but when he was he was again showing …well putting his money where his mouth is… do you imagine your candidate whomever that may be being that honest.
These people who call him a liar need to take a serious look at…themselves and wonder why those words are coming out of their mouth.
Those words are as cynical and blurred as Rev. Wright’s.

Posted by: dl | March 19, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

I am so glad Hillary is not backing down on this. I hope the unions back Hillary all the way . give MI and Fl the vote now. every one here go to The DNC and let them know how you feel.

Posted by: Bishop | March 19, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

It was a really good speech. It’s major contribution is to begin a conversation about race relations in America and the rest of the world.
The challenge is to keep it an honest conversation instead of an exercise in spin to deflect criticism of continuing black hate in and out of the African-American churches. If this is as Senator Obama portrays it, a common experience or style in the black church, then the black church must have an honest conversation within its own community because this style is very close to derailing the candidacy of a man it holds forth for President.
My discomfort with Obama’s speech is that in summation and analysis, the message is the same: racism is thriving and white America must get past that. And this is simply not the beginning of an honest discourse on the topic. Once again Obama tries to come across as sincere but the goal is to save his candidacy, not to change the dynamic as promised. He is more of the same even if an excellent writer and an articulate speaker. He comes close but fails to make the connection between where his campaign is failing and the failures of growth among his supporters.
Let’s see how this evolves. The good news is we are talking about it finally.

Posted by: len | March 19, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

Just to be clear-Obama did not fire anyone. These people stepped down on their own. I will continue to stand by Obama. He is our best chance at a good future.

Posted by: Tiffany | March 19, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

well i guess murtha did not buy obamas lies like the media did,murtha’s smart enough to see the lies obama told on friday night.then like a good snake oil salesman yesterday during his sales pitch admits to lies without batting an eye.to all obamaites wake up read the transcipts from friday about the sermons then read obamas comments about the sermons and his attendance yesterday and this person wants to be president not likely!

Posted by: don tufts | March 19, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am

That’s a politician for you. Lots and lots of double talk.

Posted by: Ted | March 19, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am

Ferraro’s comments were not about affirmative action. She was pointing out that he is winning because he’s getting 80-90% of the black votes plus the votes of all the rich white folk in Wright’s words that also happen to be very liberal whom Obama has convinced that voting for a black man moves them beyond race

Posted by: bb | March 19, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

Mr. Obama has pointedly acknowledged that he benefits from his race, noting last year that a new white senator from Illinois would hardly have stirred comparable interest or intrigue. So Mr. Obama has embraced his role, but he has strived to be defined by more than color alone.
NY Times 12/24/2006
How can he call Geraldine Ferraro’s comments either dumb or racist?

Posted by: Barb | March 19, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

I can’t believe he treated his Grandmother like that and where did they say his Mother died in the poorest country he lived in? I think Obama not only dislikes other races I think he is very racist I am calling for a mental evaluation he wrote a book about a man who left him when he was two.

Posted by: Bishop | March 19, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

What percentage of college students entering their freshmen year need to take remedial English?
I understood Obama’s speech. I’ve read his books. I understood his speech.
How many people are making a decision about Obama based on media soundbites?
The media and Hillary are laughing.
“You know.” Cliche… “You know…”
I don’t expect much from the American people.
Define ” statesmen.”

Posted by: JB | March 19, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am

In addressing the point about Michigan
If Hillary wants Michigan sooo bad…why doesn’t SHE say that people who voted for republicans already, should not be allowed to vote in the democratic primary?
Does that not make sens Why would Sen. Clinton not say Republicans should not vote in democratic primaries?

Posted by: dl | March 19, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

All of a sudden he understands where she is coming from. How convinient.

Posted by: Joan | March 19, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am

Geraldine is like the Clintons, you are a good black person as long as you stay in the back seats, they will fight for you because you cannot fight for yourself. Obama has transcended that barrier and has the right to discuss all the difficult and painful issues in the society and that is what he has done. He gave the opportunity to America to reflect on these issues and get together to address them. Murtha is very smart that’s why he was caught by the FBI and now has chosen for Hillary.

Posted by: BKMC | March 19, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am

Obama Judgment & Character
Tony Rezko
Obama said , He worked only 4 hours for Tony Rezko. He later admitted Tony Raised $150,000. the trial is going on, now he says, we talked every day, he raised $250,000, We used to meet for lunch & break fast.
NAFTA
He started NAFTA Ohio, once we found out that his advisor told Canadian Consulate not to worry about campaign rhetoric. Obama denied. Once caught him with proof, He acknowledged.
Wright
Obama said last Friday, I heard some words, but I was never there in person. Yester day he said he was there couple of time when Wright was giving hate filled speech. He is lying again.
IRAQ
He says he will withdraw troops in 16 months. His advisor tells UK newspaper, it not possible, He is lying again.
He exposed his wife & 2 young kids to this hate monger wright. No wonder his wife is not proud of America.
I come from India, Education was given by India but I am still proud of this country for what she offered me.
Obama & His wife got best education from the best Universities here and they are still not proud of this Country.
Wake up America . Vote either Hillary/McCain

Posted by: tony | March 19, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am

Equating Ferraro with Wright was a profound insult to Ferraro.
Obama has no credibility on “healing” when he consorts with those who stir hostility and resentment.
Obama will lose by an even greater margin in November than previously thought. Democrats are on a suicide mission with his nomination.

Posted by: Marie | March 19, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Nice insight. Ferraro is a racist and needs to be fired, now she just needs a hug. He accepts Clinton’s word that her campaign was not behind the release of the photo of him in African garb but then decries it as racist campaigning by the Clinton camp. Obama keeps the race card in his hand and plays it and withdraws it depending on the particular hand.When he himself was challenged for his 20+ year ties to Wright he had to play the race card with a vengeance.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | March 19, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am

Obama is one of the biggest racial biggots of our time. He fail America, by not trying to stop the hate sermons in black churches. So he must be part of the hate america crowd. I can’t beleive is a United States Senator.

Posted by: seah | March 19, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am

Just because you understand why someone says something, doesn’t mean you agree with it. It doesn’t matter whether Ferraro is a racist or not. Her assertion that Senator Obama’s success is based solely on his race and nothing else is ridiculous. It is only made sadder if she really believes it.

Posted by: Nobodys fool | March 19, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

…because it’s always hypocrisy.
It’s not simply getting more information so one changes one’s mind. It’s not thinking over after one’s first heated reaction and realizing one might have acted to appease certain groups before actually coming to realize that appeasing the groups is not really the goal.
No politician in the US, black, white, or any other race, can ever change his or her mind without being called a flipflopper, a waffle, or a hypocrite.
Politicians are supposed to have one stance and never move from it, even if the facts dictate that stance is not a prudent one to take.
What silliness we force out of our politicians by getting angry at them for making informed decisions and/or changing their minds.
He is right — she’s old enough to have been youngish through the civil rights movement, so his hypothesis could be correct. But that still doesn’t mean she should’ve said what she said.

Posted by: Indigo | March 19, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am

Obama has absolutely zero credibility at this point. He flushed his own superior judgment down the drain by sitting in earshot of Wright for 20 years. He has the audacity to call on Imus to be fired for making racist comments, has the audacity to call Ferraro “ridiculous” for making an obvious observation, has the audacity to compare his white grandmother’s private comments to Rev. Wright’s very public racist and anti-American hate sermons, then has the audacity to think the American public is so stupid to fall for his hypocrisy and guilt trip. Nobama, no way!

Posted by: grlpatriot | March 19, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

Funny thing here, Obama supporter and Obama himself are hypocrits to the fullest that they would make a used car salesman blush.
What Ferraro said is true, and i do not support Hilary at all. Also do not forget the media love affair with Obama.
So lets see now Obama called for the firing of Ferraro who made an observation, He called for the Firing of Imus who just made a joke, and he complained and disowned his grandmother who loved him because she had a personal fear, but yet keeps his mentor (oh by the way if someone is your mentor you believe in what he says 100% of the time) who spews anti-white, anti-black, antisemitism, and anti-americanism but that is ok with Obama and he is trying to lecture us!!
Fact one on why Feraro was correct , I think hilary would of attacked him more, because if anything is said about Obam Hussein, including calling him by his full name he throws out the race card.
God Help us if he wins!! For he will bring Racism to a point that has not been seen in a 100 years!!

Posted by: spock | March 19, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am

My God does the media really buy this or is it some sort of sad conspiracy?
Politics at it’s lowest.
Be afraid and not of a color….I think we should fear for our sanity…
The question is not why Mr Wright said what he said and taught what he taught…The question is why did Obama choose to sit down in the pews and not confront racism in his own church for 20 years?
And why did he stand up to as a politician to defend Wright and equate him with his own Grandmother?
This is a beautiful speech. Obama is indeed the great communicator. He has a gift.
But painting your political enemies as racist is not acceptable. Trashing the life of a harmless and rather brave Ferraro is not right…..Making America feel guilty for the very ugly and rascist comments of Wright is a major distraction.
Ooops you’ve been bamboozled!!!

Posted by: Jackie | March 19, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

Obama is playing games see he first sees if he can get by witrh a lie, when that does not work he tries a quarter truth and then a half and if that fails he give a speech condemning and blaming racism!!
Got to love him playing the race card, only racist play the race card by the way!!

Posted by: spock | March 19, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am

I am afraid that DEMOCRAT will definitely lose this election in November. I am very optimistic that REPUBLICAN again rule for another 8 years in the WHITE HOUSE.
If Clinton gets the nomination, Mccain will defeat her easily. Why can’t we forget and forgive about this racial remarks and focus on real issues facing us, such as ECONOMY. A HINT TO A WISE IS QUITE SUFFICIENT .

Posted by: I.A.T Smith | March 19, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am

I am afraid that DEMOCRAT will definitely lose this election in November. I am very optimistic that REPUBLICAN again rule for another 8 years in the WHITE HOUSE.
If Clinton gets the nomination, Mccain will defeat her easily. Why can’t we forget and forgive about this racial remarks and focus on real issues facing us, such as ECONOMY. A HINT TO A WISE IS QUITE SUFFICIENT .

Posted by: I.A.T Smith | March 19, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am

The comparison between Geraldine Ferraro and Reverend Wright is basically flawed at best.
Barak Obama claims Wright as his spiritual mentor and “an old uncle,” was married by the man, and had his children baptized by him.
Hillary Clinton never claimed Geraldine Ferraro as her spiritual guide and has never portrayed Ferraro as a member of her family.
Barak Obama has been a supporting member of Wright’s church for over 20 years while the reverend was blaspheming, vulgarizing, and cursing the United States as a nation and a people.
Hillary Clinton has never been a member of a Ferraro led church for any amount of time. Ferraro’s statements did not contain blasphemy, vulgarities, and did not curse the United States.
Also, I am curious how Barak Obama could not remember hearing any of the controversial (Axelrod for hatred, racism, vulgarity, and blasphemy) Wright statements on March 14 and then have suddenly admit to hearing the same on March 18.
Change we can believe in?
You be the judge.

Posted by: Ken | March 19, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am

Temperament is a key consideration in selecting a president. Take the current one as an example of how the wrong temperament can be a significant disadvantage. Keep that in mind when selecting the next one.

Posted by: citizenw | March 19, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am

This “I feel your pain” schtick is going overboard. Like some sort of political Vulcan he seems to know where everyone is coming from – Ferraro, Wright, Blacks, Hispanics, Whites, etc. He can see into peoples hearts and know their motivation: Ferraro thinks that way because… blacks are angry because… whites are afraid because…, etc. The big question is, what is his motivation?

Posted by: smartprimate | March 19, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

“All of a sudden he understands where she is coming from. How convinient.”
They wanted Ferraro’s head because they were hit by monster-gate from Ms. Power, they fought hard to balance the negative impact, so Ferraro must be called a racist. Then suddenly came the pastor-gate, which was a much big hit, now they choose unity strategy, to sound reconciliation, to reduce the impact of the pastor-gate.
It is campaign strategy anyway, but not even a proactive strategy.
Again, Mr. Obama has to rely on great words to get out of troubles. However, I guess, after NAFTA-gate, Iraq-gate, and this pastor-gate, it should have passed the point that people will be willing to elect him purely by his soaring words – this should be be particularly true in GE.

Posted by: Victor | March 19, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

If what Geraldine F. said is true then Obama is right. We still have a problem with race. And that makes Wright correct too. Geraldine is using a tactic to eliminate black candidates by allowing them to be perceived as not valid due to their race.
Either way the black and mixed race lose because of the white insistence that it is both not about race and it is about race.
Obama is the strongest, most intelligent and most honorable candidate in this race. I no longer have to choose from a long list of white achievers.

Posted by: Anna | March 19, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Obama said Ferraro’s comments had no place in the Democratic party. Then she went out across cable news and kept on ratcheting up the rhetoric unapologetically, even divisively claiming she was being “attacked” and “threatened” by the Obama campaign.
Obama never called her a “racist”, but that doesn’t mean he should have just accepted what she said unchallenged, especially when she kept on hammering away and even escalating the problem.
So in other words, this story has some nuances which many reporters seem unable to hold in their minds while reporting the story.
I thought reporters were supposed to have a command of the facts, not a selective, snarky insinuating use of them.
SInce this campaign began I’ve been leaning more and more toward other networks besides ABC. I miss Tedd Koppel.

Posted by: Danny | March 19, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

The comments by Geraldine Ferraro did contain references to race that, in the environment of this particular campaign, were ill advised.
However, the main point of her statements were the gender bias that exists in this country versus the racial bias, and the comparison contains merit.
Perhaps, the racial aspect of Ferraro’s words could have been expressed in a manner more acceptable to everyone, but the point of her message was the political treatment of a white WOMAN versus a black MAN–note the emphasis.
Axelrod and the Obama campaign made an obvious and poorly conceived attempt to divert attention from the bigotry and treason of Barak Obama’s pastor and “old uncle” to someone in the Clinton campaign.
If you want to get some real perspective of what Ferraro was trying to get across, consider when black men were given the right to vote as compared to all women.

Posted by: Ken | March 19, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

Yesterday Mr. Obama in his speech first referenced but not by name Bill Clinton’s remarks in S.C. and by name in the case of Jerri Ferraro, when he was giving examples of the negative racial undertones that have in his view been a part of this campaign. Now he says that one should not consider what she said as being racist yet for several days he and his campaign did just that. In his speech he went on to denounce everyone even his white grandmother whom he said held and expressed racist views. For a week he told america that he had never heard Rev. Wright make andy comment in and out of church that would lead him to beleive that Wright held the views that he preached in his hate sermons. In his speech he now admits that he did sit in the pew and here such statements. Then he goes on to say that even though he heard inflamatory retoric from Wright in church, Wright himself did not at any time say to him in a private conversation that he held any of the views that we have all seen on tv. How stupid does he think we are? He lost his credibility when he said he did not hear them in church and now he says he did. So we are to beleive that his gradmother is a terrible racist but his friend and mentor Rev. Wright is not. It is sad to see a politician demean his own family for political convience. I thought that this speech should have been more about why and how he was affilitated with Rev. Wright for 20 yrs and denounce the words and the man but no he seemed to denounce his own grandmother and make excuses for his friend Wright. So in his latest interview he now says that does not think what Ferraro said was racist and that we should look at it from her point of view. Thus again he is willing to denounce the very behavior that he and his campaign engaged in to smear Ferraro in order to gain political advantage. It appears that Mr. Obama is willing to say anything anyone wants to hear and trash anyone he wants if it would give him some political traction. This is the new politics that he preaches and the change he says we need. Change like this america can do without.

Posted by: russell | March 19, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

It amazes me how so many in the media can say Obama’s speech has calmed peoples fears and what a good job he did delivering it. He’s good at speeches. That can’t be argued. I don’t know how this issue can go away anytime soon. The guy has lied at every turn. He didn’t know, he knew. He didn’t, he did. He stands behind a podium that has a sign that says “Judgement to Lead” while acknowledging his lapse in judgement. Duh! If he can’t make sound judgments in his personal life, how can he make sound judgments for the rest of us?

Posted by: Rhonda Hole | March 19, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

From a campaign perspective there is no comparison between Ferraro and Wright. Whether you support HILLARY CLINTON or not Ferraro made remarks which were racially insensitive. Wright made rascist remarks. Ferraro’s remarks were a surprise to the CLINTON campaign as Ferraro did not have a history of speaking in such a manner, forcing Clinton to take action. Wright’s remarks were not a surprise to Obama, for indeed Wrigth did have such a history. The surprise for Obama was that the remarks made it into the highly visible public domain, forcing Obama to take action. There is clearly a matter of FAILURE in JUDGEMENT by OBAMA, having placed Wright into such a position on OBAMA’s campaign, knowing full well the nature of Wright. OBAMA no longer appears to be of Presidential caliber. Sorry, that’s where the cards fall.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 19, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

QUOTE FROM OBAMA: “And it’s a mistake then to simply tag it as racist. It’s not– that’s not what’s going on.”
IDIOTS WHO CANNOT READ: OMG, Obama is a racist! How can he call Ferraro a racist?!?!?!

Posted by: TXCourtney | March 19, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

TXcourtney: He now says that what she said is not racist. The problem is for a week he said that they were. Just like he said he had never heard Wright make andy imflamatory remark in church now he says he sat quitely in the pew and listend to them. How credible is he?

Posted by: russell | March 19, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

Bush gets away with what he does because to question him is “unpatriotic”. If McCain wins the presidency he will continue this. If Obama wins the presidency anyone that questions him will be labeled a “racist”. He has been doing that the entire primary race and doing it very well. He is not going to be able to unite this country because he is running on this issue which already has been divisive. It will be just more of the same.
Hillary 2008

Posted by: t | March 19, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Is Ferraro and Wright a real issue of America? Ferraro and Wright resigning from campaign did not changed any thing other than cooling down the media. This is not a civil war issue. People listens to comments people feel bad and they Move On and do their day to day work. Black and White will still work togather in the companies and and eat lunch at MC D, Wendys etc., and bring pay check home for their families.
I think Obama campaigns are short of ideas and they are going after Imus now. Why is Obama doing what Mr. Sharpton and others are interested in? Are these guys pulling the rugs under him? I think Obama should stay strong on his message. Getting into petty politics like Sharpton will make him a polititians like Shartpon. No Difference there.
I think Obama should just Move On and find a good way to connect with voters.

Posted by: Humm | March 19, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Obama has to blame someone for everything. Plus, Anyone still in there right mind, Knows nothing Geraldine said
could ever compare, to the hate sprued by his rev. and the racism and hatred they have in therr hearts.

Posted by: seah | March 19, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Rev. Wright’s comments are not about race…..they are about hatred. A Senator of the United States of America financially supported this man and the spread of this hatred. Twnety years of listening to this hate and he stayed. That’s poor judgement. He stood in front of 8,000 spewing his hatred. Also, why did Senator Obama lie on Friday? How is that for the initial handling of a difficult situation for a candidate for Presidency? A lie to the american people. His initial instinct was to lie! Sitting and knowing your minister said “G** D*** America is not acceptable. Believe me, if that were said at his church he knew it. How can we ever trust him again. I do agree we need to work on race relations with everyone….but using it when it’s to your advantage is wrong!

Posted by: Connie | March 19, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Not a flip-flop. Obama said he wasn’t there during those sermons that the clips that have been airing were taken from. In his speech, he said he WAS there for other sermons. Just plain honesty, I think.
It’s so easy to regurgitate the media soundbites that coincide with what you already want to believe, and say they are the truth. It doesn’t make them true.
Interesting that the media is so intent on demonizing this church by playing a few clips over and over, to the utter amazement of it’s many members who are mostly middle class Chicagoans, including many local businessmen, politicians and judges.
We don’t hear a single interview with any of the pastors or members of the church, any mention of what they do for the community, what the actual services are really like, no interviews with the (white) president of the (mainly Caucasian) UCC. Nothing.
Why? The truth about the church doesn’t sell. Too boring. A lot more people will watch if it’s portrayed as some kind of racist American hating cult.
Fox news and CNN would like you to believe they are telling you the truth, but you are a fool if you do.
Find out for yourself. If you want to know what Obama’s beliefs are, read his writings, listen to what he says and look at what he has done in his life. Then if you don’t agree with what he stands for, don’t vote for him.
Do the same for the other candidates, then decide which one you think will do the best job as president.
Basing your opinion on him, or any other candidate, on what anyone else says about them, or on what people around them do or say, is simply foolish.

Posted by: TOH | March 19, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

You remember the movie through momma from the train. Yestedy Mr. Obama through his gradmother under the train. While he said that he could not denounce Rev. Wright the man he could denounce his grandmother the woman. What does this say about him as a man?

Posted by: russell | March 19, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

TOH: He now admits that he heard some of this in church because he knows that someone some day will have a picture of him in the church at the time such things were said. He is willing to deny that wright said anything in private because how are we to prove otherwis. Thus one can contradict him on the public but not the priviate!

Posted by: russell | March 19, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am

dl:
“You all are quoting PAT BUCHANAN. oy”
I know; I posted it and never thought I would have such an occasion. Read the article, dl. Buchana hits it head on! Maybe it takes a conservative Republican to candidly speak about what happened to Ferraro. The Dem party elders were silent. They were, in the words of Pat Buchanan, “Playing by Obama’s rules.”

Posted by: marie | March 19, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

“You remember the movie through momma from the train. Yestedy Mr. Obama through his gradmother under the train. While he said that he could not denounce Rev. Wright the man he could denounce his grandmother the woman. What does this say about him as a man?”
Why is it necessary for you to lie?
He said…
“I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.”
And yet, you say…
“While he said that he could not denounce Rev. Wright the man he could denounce his grandmother the woman.”
Get real!

Posted by: Will | March 19, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

Obama’s a hypocrite, but Ferarro’s a “realist”? We blow off and excuse the majority ( of which I am one_) when they highlight race as just poorly chosen words or worse “realism” (oh the irony). But when a black man (is this term anachronistic?) asks us to move beyond it, he’s hypocritical and politically motivated.I think those who criticize Obama’s earnest call for unity are secretly now gratified to have a caricature of retired black preacher to hold up as their scapegoat for the our collective failure to have moved further from the 1960′s when that man’s soul came of age.

Posted by: Sean O | March 19, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

The Audacity of Hate; Barack Obama’s Trinity United Church of Christ’s Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A Wright with his Racist Sermons & his Racist Supporters.
Imagine if Hillary Clinton’s church proclaimed on its website that it is “unashamedly white.” The media would pounce, and Clinton’s presidential candidacy would be over. Yet that is exactly what Barack Obama’s church says on its web site — except in reverse.
“Wright on Israel: “The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism.
For the same reason why I would not vote for any candidate that attended The David Duke Church of Christ is the same reason why I cannot vote for anyone who sat for twenty (20) years in the Trinity united Church of Christ.

Posted by: peter30 | March 19, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

“I know; I posted it and never thought I would have such an occasion.”
You support his thoughts on this one occasion? Riiight!
Pat’s insights are subjective at best and resonate from the republican stance that Democrats vote from their bleeding hearts and republicans make sound judgments. I could break his article down, but you obviously have been sold on his ideals.

Posted by: Will | March 19, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

Will: You noticed that he denounced his grandmother saying that she said racist things. Yet Obama says that he never heard the good Rev. Wright make any racist remarks? Thats why I say the threw him gramdmother under the train. This about Wright not his gradmother! This controversy started because these hate filled sermons were made public and the outrage of the american people ensued. In order to calm the fears of white america he gives a speech that in no way denounced the man who gave them. The impression that he left was that his gradmother said racist things to him but Wright never did. I and many americans find that to be incredulous!

Posted by: russell | March 19, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

More damage control from the Obama camp. I will credit him for saying her comments weren’t racist to begin with, rather calling the comments ‘patently absurd.’
The comments in this interview are more attempts to patch things up with the American people because of the Rev. Wright comments and he’s back-peddling by smoothing over the Ferraro incident so that we might more expeditiously get over his.

Posted by: LOM | March 19, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

It amazes how some people here jump at the slightest perceived racism from blacks as if to say “ah ha you too are racist!” as if to say now we’re even! they take it and stretch it to the limit. Rev wright has definitely said things you don’t wanna hear, you could condemn him for being unpatriotic, but I don’t see the racism in his words. A black person just like a white person could be offended at his perceived attack on America, so how would that make it racist if it’s only unpatriotic? How is it that if you say bad thing against america that equal saying things against whites? I don’t get it. is america = white, so against america = against white? Please explain that to me.
PS: I am sure none of you here cares as much about her granny than he does so I don’t think any of you should say anything about his granny.

Posted by: Joe | March 19, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

Will: Waiting for an answer to how we are to beleive that Rev. Wright did not say racist things to him in priviate but his gradmother did. Did he not say that he had never heard such things in church now he says he did. One can be proven but one can not. So he admits to the one that can be proven and denies the one that can not be proven. He glady tells us his gradmother prejudices but not the prejudices of his friend and mentor wright. I don’t think that was a fair thing to do to ones grandmother. Sorry if that offend you!

Posted by: russell | March 19, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am

Regarding Senator Ferraro, it is Obama himself who plays the race card. He all but eviscerated Ferraro for her on target remarks when in actuality she could have lifted them from the pages of his senate website.
“Obama acknowledges, with no small irony, that he benefits from his race. If he were white, he once bluntly noted, he would simply be one of nine freshmen senators, almost certainly without a multimillion-dollar book deal and a shred of celebrity. Or would he have been elected at all?”

Posted by: Jason | March 19, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

In terms of his speech, He said he cringed, but I’m betting he did more than that. Those remarks had to cut deep…His grandmother — his surrogate mother at that point — rejected the black man he was becoming. The anger Obama heard in Rev. Wright’s church may not have felt so alien after all.
He also said, “Given my background, my politics, and my professed values and ideals, there will no doubt be those for whom my statements of condemnation are not enough,” Obama said, adding that “never once in my conversations with [Wright] have I heard him talk about any ethnic group in derogatory terms.” Is that consistent with the admission that Obama knew of Wright’s outrageous comments? It seems impossible that one can coexist with the other.

Posted by: James | March 19, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

If you have not been in church and heard something you totally disagree with then you probably don’t attend to often. If you haven’t heard relatives say things with racial bias or religious bias that make you cringe you haven’t lived too long. I am not necessairly an Obama supporter but I can understand why he stayed in his church. If we now are going to look at everything our ministers have said and analyze same – then the Clintons who have used Jessie Jackson as a religious advisor are then to be accused of supporting all the incindary things he has said. Or we could hold Hillary accountible for her husbands not knowing what sex is. And all the presidents who have had Billy Graham as a religious advisor can be held accountible for all the things he has said that are divisive. Bottom line – stop holding others accountible for what others say. Reality is that you cannot control others mouths. You can fire them after the fact – but their quotes still linger. You can denounce what they have said but people still remember. We need to focus on the person in the here and now and make our judgements accordingly.

Posted by: melinda | March 19, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

Can someone provide quotes to back their repeated claims that Obama is flip-flopping?
If he has never called Ferraro a racist, how can saying she is not in any way be contradictory?
Being racist or just plain offensive, Ferraros words were way out of line and Clinton made a bad decision by not distancing herself from them right away. This played right into the hipocracy of her campaign – calling for Obama to both reject and denounce every ever so slightly offensive remark by any ever so slightly campaign-related individual while not applying the same ethical standards to her own campaign.
Be reasonable. Judge Obama on his own merits and words, not on distorted propaganda by people who dislike him. Do the same to Clinton and McCain and go make an educated decision.

Posted by: Niels | March 19, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

Melinda, you mentioned Jesse Jackson as an advisor to the Clintons right?
You do realize they are different races right?
It seems to me that you’re the racist for even comparing that as to being a problem in your post.

Posted by: Liz | March 19, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

Jason stated:
“Regarding Senator Ferraro, it is Obama himself who plays the race card. He all but eviscerated Ferraro for her on target remarks when in actuality she could have lifted them from the pages of his senate website.
“Obama acknowledges, with no small irony, that he benefits from his race. If he were white, he once bluntly noted, he would simply be one of nine freshmen senators, almost certainly without a multimillion-dollar book deal and a shred of celebrity. Or would he have been elected at all?”
Thanks, Jason, and you did this without referring to Pat Buchanan, Playing by Obama Rules.” LOL Kudoos

Posted by: marie | March 19, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

“well i guess murtha did not buy obamas lies like the media did,murtha’s smart enough to see the lies obama told on friday night.”
What a brilliant comment!!!!
The ignorance of 90% of the posters here can be attested to by the above comment.
It is certainly fitting that Hillary Clinton, who has been doing her best to match Bush in the “I’ve never met a lie I couldn’t tell” department, receives the endorsement of one the most corrupt Congresspersons in the House.
The mythically heroic Murtha – for being the first in the House to stand up and oppose the war – is one of the most crooked, double-dealers around.
You are welcome to him, Hillary.

Posted by: Tim | March 19, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

Niels wrote, “If he has never called Ferraro a racist, how can saying she is not in any way be contradictory?”
His campaign (who are paid by him) said it and said Hillary should ask her to step down, which she didn’t. Campaigns are representatives of him. Just like the looney tune that called Hillary a “monster” and who was asked to step down.
If that is not flip-flopping I don’t know what that is.

Posted by: Jackson | March 19, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

Ferraro’s ouster is appropriate because the comments keep stirring the race pot, even if she is not a white supremacist. Aside from being completely illogical, they are demeaning and those tactics are what he objects to. If Samantha Power can be dismissed for calling Hillary a monster, why shouldn’t Geraldine Ferraro get the axe for calling Barack a token black candidate?

Posted by: nuances, people | March 19, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

Dear Americans,
I live in a very small town in WI ( 1200 people small) and we have two African American families that live here. I am originally from a big city in Southern California so the adjustment has been interesting indeed.In my life I have seen racism from both sides of the spectrum I have grown up in an area where it didn’t matter what color you were as long as you worked hard and did your best and I now live in an area where the subject rarely comes up because well as I said there are 2 African American familys in town. I watched my grandfather , the kindest , gentlest man I know who owned a business with his best friend -a black man get Alzheimer’s and begin to speak about blacks in a way that made me cringe..until the day he died -never knowing that he had forgotten his best man..I am watching it happen to my mother now as she has gotten the disease as well. These people raised me I love them dearly do I denounce them? No..do I agree with them no…My stepfather who told me if I ever married a ( insert derogatory comment here) he would never walk me down the aisle ,and when I married my Native American husband..he wasn’t there. A neighbor comes to me and says she can’t believe her son brought the black boy home to play without asking and I think- what?How? and I don’t speak to her again…Oh this racism it brings tears to my eyes and I think this will never change- there is no hope…things will be like this forever, each generation raised by the past and their heads filled with these terrible lies and hate….
and then
my nine year old comes home
and he asks me if his buddy can come over and play
and I say sure…but I say I don’t know if I know who this friend is
and he says sure you do mom..he’s the kid with the glasses.
and the kid with the glasses comes over
and he is black
and my son didn’t notice
he didn’t care
and I think maybe there is hope , maybe there is a generation of change..maybe I am raising part of that right now
Maybe it is our responsibility to look past what we were taught and how we were raised
to put aside our own prejudices regardless of our color
and just raise better Americans…better people

Posted by: Sara | March 19, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

Ferraro was talking about affluent college-educated liberals voting for Obama out of a sense of wish-fulfillment, to move past America’s racist past, to symbolically fulfill Martin Luther King Jr.’s “I Have a Dream Speech,” and black Americans voting for Obama out of racial pride, a point made by civil rights leader Andrew Young. The people are “caught up in the concept” of a black president, she said. She said nothing about affirmative action. Her arguments don’t imply anything about logic of affirmative action. For Obama to draw that conclusion is bizarre. Obama is playing the race card again.
Before Ferraro said what she said about the Obama phenomenon, she said, “I think what America feels about a woman becoming president takes a very secondary place to Obama’s campaign – to a kind of campaign that it would be hard for anyone to run against.” She noted the fact that “the press…has been uniquely hard on her. It’s been a very sexist media.” She suggested that this had two causes: “Some just don’t like her. The others have gotten caught up in the Obama campaign.” All true.
What about opposition to affirmative action and racism? You can suggest ways of improving affirmative action, but if you oppose the logic of affirmative action then that is a species of racism. Why? Because eliminating programs that restrict white privilege function to restore white privilege, and white privilege is racism. Obama will never say this because he needs plenty of white votes to have a shot at the White House (and it’s a very long shot).

Posted by: Andrew Austin | March 19, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

He’s trying to pin his psychoanalysis of Ferraro to explain why she may have come across as racist. Are you for real Obama? Your skill at fogging the average mind with your “words” is not just slipping, it’s embarassing. Why don’t you get the psychoanalysis you need for your internal and external contradictions you feel you were raised with rather than running for President; a title which you are not suitable for.

Posted by: irma | March 19, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

Sara, I love your posting. Thank you. You have reflected my belief also. No amount of preaching or jumping up and down shouts will bring about a change to an issue that can so deeply divide us. This is why it was upsetting to see people make mountains out of mole hills. We need to condemn loudly the speeches of people like Rev. Wright. They undo the little steps that so many of us take in our daily lives. We see our children get paste the divide. They do not see the difference — they just see the personalities and get along so well. Our schools allow this to happen and that is why we need to support public schools so that along with a good education, they allow for intergration. Adults need to chill out. Leaders need to denounce and not condone racial comments. If they didn’t mean it, they need to apologize, explain and move on. Mr. Obama could have aplogized for staying for those 20+ years because by staying he condoned Wright. I believe we have hope for unity and change is definately coming because we see it in our children. Politicians do what we the public want. However to do that,they also need to be able to take a stand. Unfortunately, Obama has shown us that he cannot do that.

Posted by: Voter | March 19, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Obama desparately trying to change the subject.
Why is it that no Media outlet is yet to call him out on the fact that, a few days ago, he categorically denied having heard Rev. Wright’s sermon of hate and then turns around in his speech admitting that he had indeed heard those sermon.
To me, that was the real news of his speech. HE LIED.

Posted by: Sam1 | March 19, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Jackson,
I asked for quotes to back claims like the one you just put forward.
Of cause there are people within the Obama camp who find Ferraro’s comments racist. I myself am not sure how to charactarize them other than “offensive”. But if the Obama camp has officially called for Ferraro to step down for being racist, I sure have missed something.
Can you provide me with any such quote?

Posted by: Niels | March 19, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Ferarro was right. If Obama was white with such a “zero” resume’, he wouldn’t have gotten a dime in campaign money. If anyone felt that his “Race” speech would yield vindication or refute the TUCC and Wright, you are seriously off track.
It was a POLITICAL speech and nothing more. Obama could not distance himself from where the voters are in his district…or his minister! To do so would zap his chances for another term in the Senate. So he was between a rock and a hard place with the need to hold on to his voters and smooth-talk his image with the rest of us. It may have worked with the folks in Southside Chicago but not with me.
Today he speeks on his isolation philosophy to get us out of Iraq in the first thirty days of his presidency. Nice candy for the peacnicks but a disaster with international consequences. Most thinking people know that withdrawl from an unstable Iraq would result in the collapse of Israel and the middle-East, to the great advantage of Iran and an instant loss to us of essential oil supplies. Dumb theory but the propagands must sound good to a few.
Obama’s next speech will be on the US economy. Honestly, I would rather sit down for a root canal than listen to another Obama speech. He has a cookbook for our economy? In his lifetime, he has never so much as managed a hamburger shack.
Barack Obama is a rank young opportunist with the gift of practiced mastery of the language and the ability to lead people into thinking only what he wants them to think and believing in what he says they should believe … only Barack Obama! He has nothing else to offer. Keep your eyes on the swinging pendulum folks, you will never notice your pokets being picked.

Posted by: doofus | March 19, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

Obama will be the president for all Americans, more! he will be the first American president for the world. Obama embodies everything that is good in America. He will bring out the best in us. Our unity will help us mature politically and advance materially. Many more will abandon GOP’s political and economic atrophy and decay. With Obama at helm and a common purpose we become more productive, richer, elevating ourselves and advance the world in our wake.

Posted by: julian | March 19, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Voter- While I respect your opinion I do not agree ..I believe Senator Obama opened the door for dialogue between the races that has been locked up until now. I respect the man in many ways and have been a fan of his for many years. I am not opposed to Clinton, I simply respect Obama more and consider his campaign and presidency something this country desperately needs. It may be a good thing to have had you misunderstand my choice in candidates- perhaps this can show that even two people who may not agree on each other’s opposing candidates viewpoints can find that they do agree on where America needs to go from here. Instead of the useless arguements we surely could have had now we too have opened a dialogue that is very rare on this posts.

Posted by: Sara | March 19, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

Hussein claims that, if elected, within 8 years he can change the nation. But somehow in 20 years he couldn’t change one church.

Posted by: Mavis | March 19, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

Neils,
Here’s your proof from the senior member of his campaign. FYI, in the future you can always google it.
“Axelrod said the Clinton campaign’s response was not enough and that “she ought to be removed” from any responsibilities she has on the campaign’s finance committee or in any other way related to the campaign.”
From NBC’s Domenico Montanaro
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/11/755677.aspx

Posted by: Jackson | March 19, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

Jackson,
thank you for the link and for proving my point; not once in the article does the Obama officials call Ferraro racist.
So, where is the flip-flop?

Posted by: Niels | March 19, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

If the only difference in Obama was that he was all white, Oprah never would have endorsed him. Can you imagine she would indorse a White JR. Senator from anywhere.

Posted by: Ken | March 19, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

White male candidates have never had to answer a question like why ANOTHER white male should be elected President.
Obama handled this topic with honesty and integrity.
Proud to be a white female supporter of Obama,
Celeste

Posted by: Celeste | March 19, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

That isn’t what Ferraro was saying at all. She was just pointimg out how He has won where there are large african amer. populations, because the excited about supporting him. He is trying to twist her comments into something racial to benefit him. His campaign is the one who has used racism throughout this election, from Michelle Obama’s saying Bill Clintons fairytale remark was racist, to finding that quote of Ferraro’s in some small obscure paper and pushing it to the media.

Posted by: rob | March 19, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

Why does Obama continually refer to Ferraro?
The race card?
Obama himself, or his camp are the only ones that bring this “race card” up!
Obama acts as if America, is suppose to just give in to him because of his race.
Lets not forget the “they aren’t playing fair” mentality.
This shows exactly how inexperienced Obama really is and how he truly has not struggled as the claims. (I am not saying that it he hasn’t had difficult times, but who hasn’t?)
If you look at what Ferraro, actually said her comment was true.
Where are Joe Biden, John Edwards, Dennis Kucinich, Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson?
All White, all Male all were presidential candidates.
All Out!
So was Ferraro comment racists or was it astute?

Posted by: Frank Storm | March 19, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

Sara, the beauty of the human mind is that it is okay to differ. I loved the way you brought up the idea of children since we can get so many of our answers from their behaviors. Honesty most of all. I look at all these posts and see the myriad opinions all individually crafted by people who take the time to do this because they care. I do not believe in Obama and I think he has done a great disservice to the Edwards campaign. It would have been Edwards against Clinton if he had not subverted and kind of deceived people. He did not behave like a child here. He hid things that he thought would hurt him and hoped that they would not be found. Then again this is my opinion and there may be others who share it just like how I agreed with your posting although we do not share the same choice for president.

Posted by: Voter | March 19, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

Jackson,
Ferraro did indeed “diminish Senator Obama’s candidacy because of his race”.
How else will you describe this quote:
“If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position”?
Does that make Ferraro racist? Well, Jan Schakowsky certainly does not say that in your quote.
Now, like I wrote previously, there sure are people on the Obama campaign who think Ferraro’s comments are plain racist. I can’t blame them. But Obama has not said so himself and neither have his campaign’s official statements.
So no, you have not proven your point.

Posted by: Niels | March 19, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

Obama’s actual quote on Friday was, “The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation.”
In his speech yesterday he said, “Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely”
As I see this, ‘technically’, he DID NOT lie, but I can very much see where the implication that he lied was there, and this would naturally bring to mind our cynicism that “slimey politicians always lie” and therefore cause people to be turned off and immediately revert to discounting him, and this is very understandable (Bill Clinton – when is “is” is? I did not have sexual relations with that woman” etc.). ‘Technically’ not lying still seems dishonest when in the bigger picture, people want the WHOLE truth, not a technicality. Add this to the fact that the soundbytes from Rev. Wright were terribly painful and inflammatory and would certainly invoke anger and a negative reaction in white Americans, especially ones who are unfamiliar with the black community, who were shocked at the vehemence of the statements, particularly when it seems to some that blacks cry “racism” so often. Whites would want the same standards applied to them too and understandably so.
But having said that, I give Senator Obama a pass on this technicality, even though it’s a slippery slope, and here’s why:
1.) Politics and what is quoted in the media is very volatile and the issue of race is a very highly charged one. Our president is going to have to navigate through these volatile waters, and bluntly speaking, we need someone who is a shrewd politician. Had Obama said ‘yes’ on Friday without the explanation given in the speech yesterday, the press would have pounced on it and had a field day which may have caused the campaign to take a huge downturn. I think he wanted time to give a concise and thoughtful response to the situation, as David Alexrod said he’s wanted to have this conversation for quite some time and the time was right now – people were listening. Did he know about the specific highly charged statements of Rev. Wright back at the beginning of his presidential campaign? Yes, and he said acknowledged that on Friday and said he’d denounced them then. But since the press wasn’t making a big deal about it back then, if he’d been the one to pull them out and bring them into the public eye, frankly that wouldn’t have been too bright. Sometimes things just have to progress naturally.
2.) I have read Obama’s books, followed him closely and read many of the statements of people I respect who support him and say that he really is who he says he is. I do not believe that he is a “hidden racist”, and after reading more articles and researching Rev. Wright, and Trinity United Church of Christ, I do not believe it is racist either, nor do I think Obama was teaching his children hatred by taking them to that church. Although I think the statements by Rev. Wright were horrible and I’m glad Obama denounced them, as the press has also brought to us, they are not uncommon in black churches at all.
I think we hold our politicians to an incredibly harsh standard and in our anger and disillusionment with our government, we have come to pounce on them for the least little thing. But for me, Obama’s humanity, wisdom and insight trumps the issue of ‘technically not lying’.

Posted by: JGM | March 19, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Obama’s actual quote on Friday was, “The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation.”
In his speech yesterday he said, “Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely”
As I see this, ‘technically’, he DID NOT lie, but I can very much see where the implication that he lied was there, and this would naturally bring to mind our cynicism that “slimey politicians always lie” and therefore cause people to be turned off and immediately revert to discounting him, and this is very understandable (Bill Clinton – when is “is” is? I did not have sexual relations with that woman” etc.). ‘Technically’ not lying still seems dishonest when in the bigger picture, people want the WHOLE truth, not a technicality. Add this to the fact that the soundbytes from Rev. Wright were terribly painful and inflammatory and would certainly invoke anger and a negative reaction in white Americans, especially ones who are unfamiliar with the black community, who were shocked at the vehemence of the statements, particularly when it seems to some that blacks cry “racism” so often. Whites would want the same standards applied to them too and understandably so.
But having said that, I give Senator Obama a pass on this technicality, even though it’s a slippery slope, and here’s why:
1.) Politics and what is quoted in the media is very volatile and the issue of race is a very highly charged one. Our president is going to have to navigate through these volatile waters, and bluntly speaking, we need someone who is a shrewd politician. Had Obama said ‘yes’ on Friday without the explanation given in the speech yesterday, the press would have pounced on it and had a field day which may have caused the campaign to take a huge downturn. I think he wanted time to give a concise and thoughtful response to the situation, as David Alexrod said he’s wanted to have this conversation for quite some time and the time was right now – people were listening. Did he know about the specific highly charged statements of Rev. Wright back at the beginning of his presidential campaign? Yes, and he said acknowledged that on Friday and said he’d denounced them then. But since the press wasn’t making a big deal about it back then, if he’d been the one to pull them out and bring them into the public eye, frankly that wouldn’t have been too bright. Sometimes things just have to progress naturally.
2.) I have read Obama’s books, followed him closely and read many of the statements of people I respect who support him and say that he really is who he says he is. I do not believe that he is a “hidden racist”, and after reading more articles and researching Rev. Wright, and Trinity United Church of Christ, I do not believe it is racist either, nor do I think Obama was teaching his children hatred by taking them to that church. Although I think the statements by Rev. Wright were horrible and I’m glad Obama denounced them, as the press has also brought to us, they are not uncommon in black churches at all.
I think we hold our politicians to an incredibly harsh standard and in our anger and disillusionment with our government, we have come to pounce on them for the least little thing. But for me, Obama’s humanity, wisdom and insight trumps the issue of ‘technically not lying’.

Posted by: JGM | March 19, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Now I know why democrats have a donkey as their mascot….because they’re always acting like an ass.
And ahmm JGM, did you see his interview? He said he wasn’t sitting in the pews when the statement was made, then he retracted it during his speech.
He is a LIAR.

Posted by: Dee | March 19, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

Those of you who believe in Obamanation are really in for a treat when you see everything America stands for get disgraced by him.
When Obama gives speeches what does he do? He preaches and sermonizes. I wonder who his role model is?

Posted by: Vicky | March 19, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

Sitting in a church, and not saying anything when these statements are made but then you call yourself a UNITER says that you’re unethical.

Posted by: Will | March 19, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

Yada Yada Yada
Obama is a victim again. Somebody call the national guards…
just give him a kleenex or something — he’s such a fool.

Posted by: Cary | March 19, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

JGM, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I wish more people were as insightful as you. …or at least as fair.

Posted by: Will | March 19, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

Will #2,
“Sitting in a church, and not saying anything when these statements are made but then you call yourself a UNITER says that you’re unethical.”
Who do you suggest we vote for?

Posted by: Will | March 19, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Voter- Thank you for your kind and honest posts… you seem to have a much higher faith in the mind and hearts of the average person then I do. I want to believe that people are researching outside of this forum and not just blindly repeating what someone that may have been misinformed has said.. I really do want to believe that we as a country have not been “dumbed down” so much as to let the media turn this into a reality television show.. I do..and your posts give me hope. I am a Democrat through and through and my goal in all of this is to share my opinion and my experiences so others may understand that we are fighting amongst ourselves when we should be banding together and backing whichever candidate makes it to the general election that best represents our beliefs and our hopes for the future.

Posted by: Sara | March 19, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

Once again we have Obama and his groupies, being the child on the playground.
Whaa, whaa, whaa , whaa…..
CNN – Geraldine Ferraro defended her controversial comment that Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign was successful because he was black, telling an interviewer Tuesday that she was being attacked because she was white.
Is there validity to what Ferraro, has claimed?
Why aren’t we hearing about the reverse charges?
Oh Yea!
She is a woman.
Who is Obama’s grandmother’s age.
How soon I forget.

Posted by: Frank Storm | March 19, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Obama is friends with William Ayers, an admitted domestic terrorist with the Weather Underground, which declared war on the United States and claimed responsibility for bombing several government buildings, including the Pentagon and the State Department building, in the 1970s. In an interview with The New York Times, ironically published on the morning of September 11, 2001, Ayers was quoted as saying, “I don’t regret setting bombs; I feel we didn’t do enough.”
NOW WE SEE WHO HIS ASSOCIATIONS ARE WITH.
Now a tenured professor at the University of Chicago (only in America!), Ayers met Barack Obama in the 1990s. They have remained friends ever since.

Posted by: Jen | March 19, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

I’m Will #1,
I suggest you vote for McCain. He’s more American than Obama/Clinton.
Gotta go, I have a job and can’t stay on here all day like you liberals.

Posted by: Will | March 19, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

For Will #1;
Some us liberals are just wiser.
We work for ourselves and carry smartphones.
Have a great day!
Frank

Posted by: Frank Storm | March 19, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

to Dee (in your response to me):
(respectfully) You might want to go back and re-read both quotes. My post was around “technically”. I believe the specific question on Friday addressed the specific soundbytes being played again and again.

Posted by: JGM | March 19, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

The man is a disgrace to the Democratic party. He is not fit to be senator, let alone President.

Posted by: RobP | March 19, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

McCain Courts Another Anti-Catholic Leader of the Religious Right
“McCain…wants the backing and political muscle of Religious Right leaders, but doesn’t want to be associated with their extremism. He runs the risk of alienating Catholics and moderates by pandering for the support of the Religious Right.”

Posted by: kravitz | March 19, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

obama gives a speech in which he lectures us, as though we are high school students, on race relations. he assumes we are idiots who never realized there is a problem. of course, he has no solutions, but we’re supposed to ignore that.
and, of course, we’re also supposed to ignore the reason he had to give the speech in the first place – his 20 year relationship with his hate speech giving spiritual advisor. he wants to change the subject to race relations. distract, distract, distract. not working.

Posted by: so saddened | March 19, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

A lot of people comment on the apparent inconsistency of Obama saying he never heard disparaging remarks made in person by his minister. My mother (white) has a best friend who is black, yet I have heard her on numerous occasions utter generic racial slurs. My mother is one of the most gracious, giving, and friendly people on the planet, often inviting total strangers home for dinner. Yet, when it’s a faceless stranger – like some vague race or religion, she suddenly lapses into stereotypes. Bottom line, I believe that the Reverand can say shocking generalities but still be personally loving to a diverse set of people, one-on-one.

Posted by: James McBride | March 19, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

Obama has the audacity to assume Ferraro felt threatened by black people moving into her neighborhood? What??? She spent 40 years fighting for civil rights that enable him to be where he is today. He claims a white person cannot know what it is like to be black which I agree with. Conversely, he cannot know what it is like to be a white woman either. The audacity of that man thinking he can assume how she feels is astounding. She never said anything racist and Obama knows it. Heck even Pat Buchanan knows it and he is very anti-Democrat and hardly considered friendly to the Clinton campaign. His holier than thou attitude needs adjustment America… vote for Clinton.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 19, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm

He said his Grandmothers comments made him cringe!!
He never said that Wright’s comments made him cringe!!
That’s throwin’ Granny from the train!!!

Posted by: Brenda P. | March 19, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

In other words, Granny’s words gave him an uncomfortable physical response, that he did not like!!
While wright’s comments he didn’t agree with!!! No physical response.
Guess what, enough Americans had a big enough response for everyone!!
Ones who had a positive respone to Senator Obama before the wright debacle!!!
Yes, Granny was thrown from the train, under the bus etc.!!
Enough said!!!

Posted by: Brenda P. | March 19, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

Obama wants a frank discussion about race, yet when Ferraro tried, she was branded as a racist by the Obama camp.
It seems the only way to discuss issues about race without being branded as a racist is by agreeing 100% with Obama.
Look at the people he was quick to call racist – grandma and Ferraro. Rev. Wright was okay by him because he did some good in his life. Obama is just too naive and young to understand the issues of race. He only tries to use it for his own benefit and nothing else.

Posted by: Sammy | March 19, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm

Well I think that Obama’s reaction to Ferraro may have evolved upon reflection as other situations evolved and I would hope Ferraro could see that in his speech he was not trying to further isolate her but to actually be understanding of where she was coming from.

Posted by: Jocee | March 20, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am

frank storm, actually even the difficult times are lies. the father who was allegedly a goat herder was actually affluent. after time in indonesia, etc., he went to an exclusive private school in hawaii. and on and on. check out site if you want the true biographical info.

Posted by: so saddened | March 20, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am

‘so saddened’, why do you keep posting those lies?
Obama’s father DID herd goats as a boy. He attended American universities on scholarship. Even the airfare was beyond his means, but fortunately the Kennedys had set up a fund for developing world students to be able to get to the U.S. to use their scholarships.
Barack’s grandfather was a cook for the British. Is that your idea of ‘affluent’? He wasn’t a fancy chef – he was a COOK. Ever see the photos of is wife Sarah’s hut in Kenya? Not exactly the house of an ‘affluent’ member of society, is it?
Barack was on scholarship to the school in Hawaii – and lived with his grandparents in a tiny apartment. Ever see the photos?
More to the point, WHY do you feel it so important to portray Obama as part of some wealthy ‘elite’ group? Is that one of the Rush Limbaugh dittohead talking points? Because I really don’t see its relevance, unless you’re trying to ‘prove’ that only people who come from an upper class can do well academically and professionally. Meaning those who don’t….

Posted by: Tom J | March 20, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

Nuts come in many colors
Why isn’t the anti-Catholic, misogynistic, gay-bashing preacher John Hagee hurting John McCain, who sought Hagee’s support, got it, and appeared on stage with him? Answer: Hagee is white. When whites see a white nut, we dismiss him as fringe. But a black nut? Hold on, pal.
White preachers say the darndest things. Pat Robertson: “Just like what the German Nazis did to the Jews, so liberal Democrats are doing to evangelical Christians.”
According to his son, when evangelical pioneer Francis Schaeffer “called for the violent overthrow of the US government, he was invited to lunch with Presidents Ford, Reagan, and Bush Sr.”
The late Jerry Falwell blamed the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on American pagans, abortionists, feminists, gays, and lesbians.

Posted by: Thinking about America | March 20, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am

tom j, get your facts from someone other than the obama propaganda machine.

Posted by: so saddened | March 20, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am

This incident proved obama’s hypocrisy, and he couldn’t be the man for change, using his color as an excuse for racism, Ferraro was right to the point in her comments, and what she said is a fact , ” Obama wouldn’t be there if he is not what he is”, they all know it, he is the new trend for this election season , the new fashion, the obamamania , that will fade away by end of the season in 4th of November,this is part of the show there got to be an Obama , for more excitement and more thrill ,and intense media coverage with more sales and more ads, and he might get the nomination to be the party’s choice for the CEO position for more thrill and excitement… WOW what a business,but no nuts will chose a rookie to be the Commander in Chief of the country unless the want the country’s future and it’s interest to go into the drain and Obama realize this fact very well ,so why he is using Ferraro as a tool ?… hypocrisy …right ? , where is the change in such mentality ? , McCain will be the right piece of the puzzle, and there got to be an Obama so McCain can insure the position which by the way, will be the best for the country’s future and interests. with Obama there you don’t need to think much on 4th of November , and this is what’s behind Ferraro comments , the good part in this …senator Obama is full aware of this fact… Mac is Back

Posted by: chattaf | March 20, 2008, 3:10 am 3:10 am

Ferraro should be fired from the campaign. She made disparaging remarks about Senator Obama that were loaded with subtle racism and not helpful. And so she was.
Wright should be fired from the Obama campaign. While he spoke accurately about Hillary Clinton never walked in certain shoes, he also made inflammatory remarks about white racism that are not helpful. And so he was.
Neither one should be disowned. Wright wasn’t. I assume Ferraro wasn’t either.

Posted by: S.E. Croft | March 20, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am

Josee wrote, “Well I think that Obama’s reaction to Ferraro may have evolved upon reflection as other situations evolved and I would hope Ferraro could see that in his speech he was not trying to further isolate her but to actually be understanding of where she was coming from.”
Well Josee, she stepped down, why doesn’t he?

Posted by: Shane | March 20, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

Look what type of crowd he’s attracting — racists (Wright, Farrakhan and the violent Black Panthers), corrupt people (Rezko), dumb people (his wife, Ted Kennedy and Kerry, who is a sore loser), etc.

Posted by: Harry | March 20, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

I don’t think anyone should show Wright respect by calling him “Pastor” or “Reverend” Wright. He thinks he is a man of God, but he’s more of an anti-Christ.

Posted by: Slate | March 20, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

Ferraro will now be scripted into that speech for generations to come. she should be mad and she should ask for her name to be retracted from the orginal pages.

Posted by: Darlene | March 20, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

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