By Jennifer Parker

Mar 17, 2008 2:36pm

Obama to Deliver Major Address on Race Tomorrow

In Philly, tomorrow morning at 10:15 a.m., at the National Constitution Center, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, will deliver what his campaign is billing as a "major address on race, politics, and how we bring our country together at this important moment in our history."

What do you think he should say?

- jpt

User Comments

OK to do as long as he does not do a Romney on Religion Speech.
Man the Romney Speech as really lame.

Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 17, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

There is a race problem in this country and it is both white and black racism. There has always been a very fragile existence in the South and the far left liberals do not appreciate or understand the South and they never will. It doesn’t make it right but it is the truth.

Posted by: Donna R, Antioch, TN | March 17, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

He should bring Rev. Wright and let people ask him some questions about race.
Obama will be lying and spinning as always.

Posted by: Illie | March 17, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

Senator Obama should admit that he has divided the Democratic Party and America as well by his very poor judgment of whom he aligns himself with. He should tell the truth about his relationship with Mr. Wright instead of spending days lying about it.
He should end his speech by saying he is stepping aside for the good of the Democratic Party and giving a Democrat a fair chance winning the Presidency because he will NOT win.
I’m not holding my breath however.

Posted by: kris | March 17, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

If Barak Obama intends to talk about race, perhaps he should bring along his most influential mentors regarding the subject, the Reverend Wright and Louis Farrakhan.
Or, perhaps he could read to all of us from his wife Michelle’s Princeton senior thesis.
These sources would provide a “transparent” view of race and politics from the Obama point of view.

Posted by: Ken | March 17, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Just as an aside – why is the candidate who always accuses others of injecting race into the election choose to make a major address about race? Senator Obama is keeping this alive and quite frankly has injected race more than any other candidate.

Posted by: Kris | March 17, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Why is American people afraid to discuss the race issue?

Posted by: Bola Patrick | March 17, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

We’ve seen his actions. I sick to death of his hollow words.

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | March 17, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

Let me see obama doesnt have time to go to the Black state of the union, Black Newspaper Union. He doesnt want to seem to black. Now that the truth about his mentor is out in the public NOW you want to race.

Posted by: toby | March 17, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

I also wonder who will he quote this time? Saturday it was Robert Kennedy. Who will it be this time Ghandi? MLK? JFK? LBJ? BC?

Posted by: toby | March 17, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

I’m sure that whatever he has to say has been created together with “the Wizard of Ox – Unmasked” – David Axelrod and field tested with focus groups to get just that right tone. Too bad, it won’t be authentic because he isn’t.

Posted by: s. valenti | March 17, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

Obama is a uniter, he will deliver an exceptional speech which will support America to move together and win against one diificult prt of its own history, heal a wound for ever. OBAMA08.

Posted by: BKMC | March 17, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

Don’t be surprised if he doesn’t admit that he in fact attended services that included racist, divisive, conspiracy laden hate sermons. Just like when he admitted last week that Rezcko had contributed way more than he’d previously disclosed. Some won’t call it lying because apparently they don’t want to admit he’s not the Second Coming.

Posted by: s. valenti | March 17, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

I think MLK said it best…that people should be judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin. The black racists are just as bad as the white racists. I was VERY disappointed in hearing the remarks of Obama’s pastor because I had hoped that with his intelligence and very mixed background that Obama could see beyond the hate. Now I’m wondering – pretty hard to sit there and listen to this stuff for 20 years and not have it affect you. Michelle complaining about this country when she is living a very enviable lifestyle seems to show how this rhetoric pollutes those who listen to it.
Obama has his hands full trying to explain this – I hope he doesn’t lie about not knowing, and I hope he somehow rises above it. This is as pivotal moment for him….and us.

Posted by: SuziQ | March 17, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

On June 5th, 2007, Senator Barack Obama spoke before 8,000 people gathered in Hampton University’s Convocation Center. Most of them were pastors and ministers attending a conference there.
He was there to speak on mostly post Katrina issues and to criticize the Bush administration’s efforts during that natural disaster. Obama tried his catch phrase of the moment, saying that a “quiet riot” might be occurring in America and he affirmed that he felt that America was a racist nation, that the reaction to Katrina had just “pulled back the screen” on America’s racism. Obama also used rhetoric heavily doused with religious symbolism.
But, that boiler plate aside, there was two very interesting segments in Obama’s remarks concerning his racist “spiritual mentor,” Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Jr. that are not getting the press it deserves. (See the video at Channel 2 News Chicago)
He was effusive in his praise and admiration for Wright, this foaming at the mouth, hate monger. This runs contrary to his late claims that he is somehow shocked by Wright’s racism, or that he now disagrees with him as well as his claim that he was not familiar enough with Wright to know of his point of view.
As the speech kicked off (at 1:07 into the video), Obama introduced the Rev. Wright to the audience with these glowing and highly personal words:
And then I’ve got to give a special shout out to my Pastor. The guy who puts up with me, counsels me, listens to my wife complain about me. He’s a friend and a great leader not just in Chicago but all across the country, so please everybody give an extraordinary welcome to my pastor Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Jr., Trinity United Church of Christ.
this also ran in the Chicago Illinois tribune read it online buy Googleing his preachers name.

Posted by: Angel | March 17, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

Oh, and thank you bernadette, for your honesty. I pray we can get pass the ugly head of racism.
A black middle-aged woman who also supports Obama.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | March 17, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

The truth>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not like the Clintons saying what people want to hear….

Posted by: h | March 17, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

This is sad. Why do I feel he is going to drop out of the race. If this happens Hillary will not, repeat, will not get my support. She is no different than Bush. Her husband was on the Rush Limbaugh show a few weeks ago. Now how bold can you be. People act like they never heard these comments from ministers, black, white purple and green. This is nothing new and I am sadded by this entire ordeal. The media loves this stuff and continues to feed as much hate as they can. All I can say is “HE WHO CASTS THE FIRST STONE…. God will be your judge and only God.

Posted by: sic and tired | March 17, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

It’s kind of hard to believe him in light of all this.
Just more empty words to try and save his dying campaign.

Posted by: BC | March 17, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

Angel,
Thanks for that. Wouldn’t it be nice to find a politician who doesn’t exploit every group they can? Problem is they’d never get elected.

Posted by: SuziQ | March 17, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

He should say, I resign from the nominee process. I lost my cred when I misused the painful history of black oppression and painted the Clintons as racist, so I could get the black vote while claiming to be a unifier. I’ve set back black advancement by 30 years.

Posted by: notsonaive | March 17, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

Election 2008 logic:
Louis Farrakhan is respected by many in the black community. Louis Farrakhan is bad. Obama is a member of the black community. Therefore we should not elect Obama for president. Wow, what a true [dumb] electoral logic! Ok then, I guess its another 100 years in Iraq. Who knows maybe between the years 2008 and 2108 the U.S. flag will indeed have 51 stars after all.

Posted by: Oral Robertson | March 17, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

Whatever he says it will probably be someone elses words. I am getting tired of his rhetoric.

Posted by: Deb | March 17, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

notsonaive,
The comment by Geraldine Ferraro has set race relations back 30 years. Please explain to me why you think she felt it necessary to make that statement. The very same statement she made 20 yrs ago with a different candidate. It was to rile up racist feelings then, as it has now.
It is truly amazing how some of you sit here and blame Obama.
So who are the real racists here???

Posted by: LA in Indiana | March 17, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

I’m tired of all his speeches. Is he trying to be MLK? I will not watch nor read the comments.
Gimme a break I’m done with this guy and will never vote for him again.

Posted by: Magic Potion | March 17, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

Empty words and rhetoric trying to save his titanic campaign.
People have made up their minds and now he is doing last minute pleading….too late 20 years of racism will not erased by giving a 60 min speech..
Save me the DRAMA!

Posted by: ADHD | March 17, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

The realtor involved in the Obama-Rezko land deal is a self-claimed “Hillary girl”. She said this about Obama: I have been there. It is just like a hot date with a cool man. You just don’t what to ask too many questions to kill the dream”. Obama supporters, ask yourself: Are you trying to keep that Dream by suppressing any inkling of your doubts?
Nobody is accusing Obama of being a racist, or having done things illegal. The issue here is his entire platform he has built to make him so high and so above the rest of the political contenders is collapsing.
1. Honesty: he was not honest when he answered questions about Rezko and Wright. His story kept changing. There is more to come. I am 100% sure by Nov. there will be a tape surfacing out showing him nodding with Wright when those hateful words were said.
2. Ethics: he shows no ethical concerns when he entered the land deal with Rezko. Also look at his earmarks from the senate, to the hospital where his wife was VP; to things associated with his biggest donor.
3. Good judgment: Obama chose to be associated with Rezko and Wright intentionally. This is not just bad judgment, there is more than that. I have the suspect that deep in his heart, Obama is a completely different person. All he is saying in the campaign is carefully calculated “positioning”.
4. Iraq: the only thing Obama can talk about as reflecting his good judgment. The NYT had an article about him recently. It turned out, except his 2002 speech, Obama did nothing to change the Iraq course, he even voted against troop withdrawal. His tones and strategies changed AFTER he started his pres. bid.

Posted by: Amy | March 17, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

HE IS GOING TO PLAY THE RACE AND COLOR CARD AND WE ARE ALL GOING TO FEEL BAD FOR HIM!
TOO LATE!
This whole campaign feels like a scam and now he is trying to ask us to understand why he is a racist. Sorry Obama the voters are gone and you are now back paddling your bigotry and racism thoughts of USA and the whites.
This is too late

Posted by: ADHD | March 17, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

Early in January I spent a day on the internet doing research on all the candidates records-I couldnt find but one bill he sponsored. That is not much. Also, last week a bill combining all of Obama’s economic plans was voted on-Obama himself voted no. I will not be voting for this man because of his lack of experience not because of his race. I think he needs to wait a few years to get some real legislation under his belt and then based on what he has actually done or is doing, I’ll make my voting decision.

Posted by: Deb | March 17, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

A racist minister may have endorsed Senator McCain, however;
The Senator did not claim that minister as “an old uncle,
The Senator was not married by that minister,
The Senator’s children were not baptized by that minster,
The Senator was not a 20-year member of that minister’s church,
The Senator did not claim that minister as his “spiritual advisor,” and
That minister was not the inspiration for a book written by Senator McCain.
While I do not support the candidacy of John McCain, all these services were provided for Barak Hussein Obama by the Reverend Wright.
The “Wright” truth is Obama’s truth.

Posted by: Ken | March 17, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

words and words and words and words time in and time again
These speeches are getting tiresome and lame. Why not go on with your campaign knowing you have LOST 85% of the population.
you are trying to save your candidacy knowing you have LOST!!!
people don’t forget and giving a speech is not going to change people.
Most of your speeches are plagiarized and not your own. So keep sinking your ship. Your election is over!

Posted by: sinking ship | March 17, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

What we need to know if Gov Patrick of Mass. had to do a race speech. Im sure if he did obama will repeat it verbatim.

Posted by: toby | March 17, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

I support HILLARY CLINTON. I believe this contest should be about the issues. I believe we should listen to BARACK OBAMA and give him the benefit of the doubt. There is not sufficient evidence to say that he’s previously sat through a hate speech by the REVEREND WRIGHT. He has repudiated the speech he has now heard via the media. His credibility is on the line. The RIGHT is skeptical, understandably. Hillary supporters are naturally hopeful that he screws up, because it is to her benefit. She does not want to win this way, it would be a sad day in the DEMOCRATIC PARTY. I for one have been extremely harsh on his judgement, and the kind of hate speech coming out of his church. I’m backing off because of HILLARY’s leadership position on this matter. This contest is not one based on race or gender, but issues.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 17, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

spock,
Better education, school choice, and working to better ourselves…those are not conservative ideas. And let me enlighten you, from someone who comes from the ‘black’ community.
I was not raised to ask anyone for anything. Not all black people are asking for handouts or are on welfare. I was raised to work hard for everything I have. The problem with people like you….you try to put ALL black people in the same box, and that is part of the racism problem. Everyone black or brown is not a racist, just like everyone who is white is not a racist.
The assumption that racist people are now black and not white….can you find anything intelligent to say??

Posted by: LA in Indiana | March 17, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

I’m really looking forward to Senator Obama’s speech tomorrow. Obviously, race still divides many of us, as is evident in these comments.
Racism, or any “ism” is also about perception and our personal exposures to real-life situations makes us predisposed to a varying spectrum of reactions to a specific event.
I think discussing these experiences openly is the right thing to do. I think his speech will be a true testament on his ability to really unite us.

Posted by: LOM | March 17, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

Yes it is about time we face this ugly MONSTER in America..
I referring to the race issue…not HILLARY….
OBAMA 08 – GET READY FOR CHANGE AMERICA

Posted by: Lawrence | March 17, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Obama and this controversy have set race relations back at least 30 years – although I’m open to discussion about the actual amount of time.
Most people if they think of it at all, would admit that we’ve become a society where class matters. I can’t think of any middle class neighborhood that wouldn’t welcome a professional family – no matter what the race. A neighborhood welcome however becomes more problematic when a subsidized renter moves in – people make assumptions about educational status, behaviour of children, yard upkeep whether fairly or unfairly. They’re concerned about their own property values. The essential point here however is that the RACE of the subsidized renter matters little. Whether poor white, black or hispanic the perception is that they are not like us.
Obama and Rev. Wright’s church though has us wondering if our black physician, dentist, policeman, teacher, judge, store owner etc. secretly hate us and hold US (not our ancestors)responsible for their tragic history.
What I also resent is how Obama has seemed to deny the colorblindness of the Clinton years. At least a whole generation of children has been raised who are matter of fact about people in their lives who look different from them (I grew up in a generation and household where there was no overt racism but now I wonder where were the black families living that I didn’t meet until college. Now, my fear is that at least three generations of black children have been exposed to Rev. Wright’s racism including the Obamas two beautiful daughters.

Posted by: twinmom48 | March 17, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

The issues presented by Geraldine Ferraro in her comments seemed to suggest her experience with gender bias to a much greater extent than racism.
Of course, the speech was rooted out and pandered by the Axelrod spin machine to see what benefit could be gained, but the gender tone came through much louder to me.

Posted by: Ken | March 17, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

I agree with you westcoast. It should be about the issues and I can find very little on what Obama has done for all the people of this country.

Posted by: Deb | March 17, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

He should say,
“It has become clear that I am too biased to represent ALL of America if elected President; therefore, I am withdrawing from the presidential race.”

Posted by: David | March 17, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

How pathetic Obama has only one thing to rely on now: speech, speech, speech. Can he do something else? Where is his action of unifying in the past of 20 years? Now that the vidoe clips are out, he is forced to say those things. Again, a nice speech will do it. He is spending the whole night with his speech writer to prepare the most grandiose speech in the entire US history. stay tuned…

Posted by: amy | March 17, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

Mr. Obama.. you are no MLK

Posted by: kmkmkm | March 17, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

DEB,
I’m in total agreement with you, OBAMA lacks a record of any real action. His claims are Monday morning quarterbacking, and he has no real plan on the economy that I’ve been able to detect. He proposed over a trillion dollars in expenditures and then turned around and voted against it. That falls into the realm of the absurd. He is not of Presidential caliber, in terms of issues.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 17, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

Thanks but no thanks

Posted by: Bishop | March 17, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

West Coast Messenger,
“I’m backing off because of HILLARY’s leadership position on this matter.”
I think on Hillary’s part this is more of a case of sitting back and not getting in the way while your competition is imploding.

Posted by: SuziQ | March 17, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

Have any of you been paying attention to the stock market today? But hey, bush says he’s on top of the whole thing. That should make everyone feel better, right. If this country ever needed real change, it’s NOW! Obama 2008!

Posted by: pt | March 17, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

maybe he can talk about bill kristol, the new york times and the outright inaccuracies in his op-ed piece today on obama. they are an perfect example of how the press has covered this entire issue: get the dirt, do no research, spread the slime and soudbites out as soon as you can and don’t let up.
and this is the new york times – which we (or maybe just me) used to think had integrity.

Posted by: Mara | March 17, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

SuziQ,
Hillary, and those that surround her, are saying that Obama should be taken at his word. Hillary continues to say that this is a contest concerning the issues. What we really need is for the voters voices to be heard on their choice of candidates. This includes Michigan and Florida voters. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY will NOT disenfranchise its voters in my lifetime.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 17, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Deb…please stop your lying about Senator Obama. He has sponsored hundreds of bill since he was elected to the US Senate and hundreds more from when he was a state senator. Many of his bills have passed and are now law. These include but are not limited to:accountability and transparency in government, ethics reform, nuclear non-proliferation, home foreclosure and predatory lender laws, death penalty reform, racial profiling law, plan to stop escalation of Iraq War,and begin phased redeployment of troops, global poverty act. I could go on and on. You might want to check Hillary’s record. Even though she’s been in the Senate longer she has quite a few less bills with her name on it. Maybe she was spending all her time working on the $2.2 billion earmarks she was trying to get for NY (you know, like the Woodstock Museum).

Posted by: Janet | March 17, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

100% agreement with you on that westcoast.

Posted by: Deb | March 17, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

What I consider a tragedy here is that a lot of the country was on fire…ready to walk over nails, Republican and Democrat alike, for someone who was going to put an end to the divisiveness. It really seemed as though Obama was that person, until we heard his pastor.
I wish the real MLK could come back. Now there was a truly great man.

Posted by: SuziQ | March 17, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

I said wrote the bill. The bills you are talking about someone else wrote them, Obama added his name to sponsor them. There is a difference.

Posted by: Deb | March 17, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

The question posed by the moderator was “What should he say”?…We we not asked to spout out even more divisive baloney at one another.
To answer the Question: Obama should:
1) Denounce Wright’s comments emphatically (again)
2) Say that he understands the need to hold this conversation given the ABSOULTE CERTAINTY of his procuring the nomination. Pelosi and the party elders have drawn a line in the sand. In other words…he needs ot elegantly FRAME the CONTEXT.
3) Explain why and what this church menas to him OR publically QUIT that church.
4) Finally he should focus on WHAT UNITES us. This is what has gotten lost in the angry depserate days since 2/5 as the dream long held by the babyboomers has been halted by Obama’s growing momentum. He should remind us of what we love in our selves and each other, and why we must UNITE to defeat the GOP.
If he does these 4 things, any crowing or whining by his enemies after that will look even cheaper and more petty than it already DOES.

Posted by: Rob | March 17, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Hopefully it will be a farewell address.

Posted by: Priscilla | March 17, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

I also think that a first term Senator who has spent half his time in office on the campaign trail does not have enough experience to be the leader of our country. Given time and a proven track record, he may very well be a great leader someday. I just think now is not that day.

Posted by: Deb | March 17, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

He should say I have been DUPED!
I am not to be trusted
I need help!
I have multiple personalities!
that’s all he should say

Posted by: 20 years of misinformation | March 17, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

Just say I am taking a break and rethink my career and my family and priorities
then just say GOOD BYE AMERICA!!!

Posted by: see ya | March 17, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

Yeah, I hope his speech about race means as in DROPPING out of it.

Posted by: Johnny | March 17, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

SuziQ,
OBAMA may still be the most publicly polished “POLITICIAN” of a generation. It reminds me of what Jeff Burrows used to say, when it comes to P.R., “Let the smooth side show.”

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 17, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

The reverend’s speeches were not hateful, they were angry and there are plenty of things about this country to be angry about – particularly if you are not white. Obama is a brilliant, charismatic leader who has a deep understanding of where this country has been and where it needs to go. He also understands that it takes a unifying message of compassion and focus not anger to make it happen.

Posted by: betty | March 17, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Janet, You need to inform yourself about Illinois politics and Emil Jones, the State Senate President. He told people during Obama’s years in the state senate that he was going to elect a U.S. senator – Obama. To do it, he took legislation written by others and refiled it with Obama’s name on it. Others did the work and he got the credit.

Posted by: s.valenti | March 17, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

if Obama is opening his mouth, you know he is lying.
He is a lawyer. He has great speech writers and a really fancy teleprompter.
But after 20+ years of a relationship with Uncle Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s words are just words.
Barack Obama is unelectable! Period!

Posted by: USVet | March 17, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

OBAMA SWINGS LIKE A PENDULUM
ONE HAD HE LOVES AND CONSIDERS WRIGHT HIS MENTOR AND CRAZY UNCLE
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PENDULUM: I DENOUNCE, REJECT CRAZY UNCLE’S COMMENTS
WHAT IS IT OBAMA?
what did you agree with for the past 20 years in this RACIST CHURCH

Posted by: gumba | March 17, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

I look forward to this; it should be a historic speech. The stars are all in alignment for it. I suspect he’ll make the case for a generational shift in attitudes about race.
Remember, Wright was a young man when Martin Luther King was gunned down. That experience, and the race riots of that era, shaped the consciousness of the Black leaders of the baby boom. We’re now at a turning point, and Obama is the fulcrum.
Unfortunately, too many contributors here have already closed their minds. These boards seem merely a platform for Obama haters to vent their collective spleen. So, so, sad.

Posted by: Tungsten | March 17, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

I also think that a first term Senator who has spent half his time in office on the campaign trail does not have enough experience to be the leader of our country. Given time and a proven track record, he may very well be a great leader someday. I just think now is not that day.

Posted by: Deb | March 17, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

West Coast Messenger
Yes, I think you have a point. He is looking as though he is the opposite of what I thought. The words of that pastor just made me cringe! I’ve never heard anything even close to this in any church I’ve attended.
Obama tapped into a need by so many of us to unite….what a fiasco.

Posted by: SuziQ | March 17, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

His race is over.
People are fed up and TIRED of his speeches and trying to paint himself as MLK or whomever is not going to do him any good.

Posted by: Lead | March 17, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Obama better scold black Chuch community also. When he is trying to be progressive, Black church community is not able to lift themselves up and still tied to ancient prophetic thoughts. He cannot win unless Black church community also put steps in progressive directions. Anti-America comments are just disrespectful.

Posted by: Humm | March 17, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

s. valenti…you might want to check out the Library of Congress. That’s where I found the information about Obama’s legislation. I don’t like to rely on the he said/she said rumors that are passed around as fact. You might want to inform yourself. While you are there, check up on Hillary. She is the one who is all talk and no action.

Posted by: Janet | March 17, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Hey Rob,
That is a well thought-out list. HILLARY CLINTON and company are not going to say a word about this speech and OBAMA’s sincerity or credibility. The right wing is going to have a heyday. At this point in time they have one mission and one mission only, and that is to completely and totally destroy BARACK OBAMA’s credibility as a potential election candidate. He has become such a fearful thing to them they do not even want him as a candidate to compete against in the fall election. I’m not saying this hopefully, I know it instinctively from past battles with these folks.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 17, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Just because there is a race problem doesn’t mean we need to elect Obama because he’s black. Especially considering that HE brings racial tension into the picture, not by being black, but by seeming defensive about it. If we need to work on the race issue lets do that, but Obama doesn’t need to be President just so you all can prove you’re not racist. This is definitely the “Wrong black man.”

Posted by: Johnny | March 17, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

I just hope what ever he says it is his own original thought process and not him xeroxing someone else’s speech.

Posted by: mona | March 17, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

“What do you think he should say?”
I hereby withdraw my candidacy for the Democratic presidential nomination effective immediately for the good of our nation and pledge to fully support Senator Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Joseph | March 17, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

Obama knew completely.
That is why he said he wanted to unite.
making a divide so he could come back and be the saving grace.
He knew exactly how African Americans felt, and knew eventually it would come out, just it came out sooner than he wante(he wanted the primary to be over).
So will Obama know what he is talking about this time. Or not know, then come back and know, or does he know.
What does Obama really Know?

Posted by: seah | March 17, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

Obama’s speech tomorrow:
To the American people, my Fellow Americans, the past few days have been rough and not the least very tough on my wife Michelle.
I am speaking today on behalf of my family, my church that YES RACISM exist but, I the GOLDEN child is here to rise to the occasion and tell you all I WILL END racism!
My fellow Americans give my your vote in the fall, please please please, sniff, sniff. I am begging you I will end racism because I came out of a racist church and I know the diff. between right and wrong
So my Fellow Americans don’t say GOD D*** America instead GOD WANTS OBAMA FOR PRESIDENCY!
so wink wink, sniff,sniff, a vote for me will end racism wink wink

Posted by: double standard | March 17, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

I can guarantee his speech will have all of these; manipulation-race and history, racism-you should all feel ashamed and guilty (unless you vote for me) and say something to the effect to combat and cancel out any of our perceptions and the fact that we have been lied to with contradictions as we are the ones with the problem.

Posted by: Johnny | March 17, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

What will Obama say? Rev. Wright’s sermons are “just words” so dismiss them when judging this wonderful man, my mentor.
And while he’s at it, he needs to address his shameful and opportunistic exploitation of sexism to further his own advancement.

Posted by: no pasaran | March 17, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

DA speech: I am no longer going to be the candidate, I ruined the democrats.
I can’t unite, I’m a phony, a puppet.
I lack judgment and have associates that are very extreme in their opinions.
Therefore by a vote of 100-0 the people have decided I should withdraw

Posted by: race card | March 17, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

Quite honestly, I think he should say he is dropping out of the race for the sake of the Democratic Party. This won’t go away. The GOP is like sticky glue with this. He needs to face this (as he should have many moons ago) and get out of the race immediately.
Believe Hate before it’s Too Late.

Posted by: kaffeen | March 17, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

twinmom48, you are so right about obama’s extremely divisive effects. with the huge audience generated by a presidential campaign, obama has done more harm to race relations in one year than even farrahkan was able to do in his long and despicable career.
i would add that he did it with the full support and aid of the mainstream media. now they have to find a way to cover for him so they can cover for themselves. they wouldn’t want to have to admit their complicity in building him up. so we can expect nbc/msnbc and cnn to give glowing coverage of his speech and talk about how beautifully he addressed racial issues and how the wright story is not important…. and the true believers will quote and repeat and delight in it and think it worked. they will be wrong. we are not so stupid as to think that a lifetime philosophy, which is what the 20 year close relationship demonstrates, can be overcome by a few pretty words written by a good speechwriter. they want us to be that stupid, but we are not.

Posted by: so saddened | March 17, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

The only prediction I can make about tomorrow is that he’ll speak in that elegant style of his and two minutes after he’s finished we won’t remember a word he said but somehow we’ll feel that all of this was somehow our fault!

Posted by: s.valenti | March 17, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Why are WE being delivered a speech on race? So he insults us with contradictions and now he’s going to lecture us as well. The EGO is incredible. Why doesn’t he just deliver a speech on how HE SCREWED UP?

Posted by: Irma | March 17, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

LOL Looks like Obama is taking directions from the uncommitted superdelegate named Donna Brazile who seems to be coming to his defense. Watch the latest episode of “This Week” here on this site if you dont believe me. Her claim that Wright is a moderate pastor in his views is scary but certainly not a valid defense to his claim of not knowing and lying about it. I dont care what he has to say in this address… his judgment is poor on many counts, his credibility is shot completely, and I question his patriotism. With Clinton and McCain I have no questions. Given the dem race is between Obama and Clinton, whatever you think about her husband, she is clearly not him based on her record of positive actions as a Senator and a humanitarian. I dont have a problem with her vote in 2002 because I dont blame her for Bush’s lying or actions anymore than I blame her for Bill’s lying or actions. But I do blame Obama for his own lying and actions. Note, he continues to expose his children to the very thing he claims to not believe.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

So Saddened, Thanks, especially for adding your insight about how the media has become so vested in his candidacy. My hometown paper (Boston) which I’m dropping has carried minimal coverage of this story (in fact, only Obama’s initial statement when the story broke.) Meanwhile, they practically copy Obama’s daily talking points and pass it off as their own work.
When this campaign is over, one of the stories to be written will be the media’s complicity in promoting a campaign of someone so obviously unprepared for the presidency. Where are the grown ups at these newspapers?

Posted by: twinmom48 | March 17, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

Quite honestly, I think he should say he is dropping out of the race for the sake of the Democratic Party. This won’t go away. The GOP is like sticky glue with this. He needs to face this (as he should have many moons ago) and get out of the race immediately.
Believe Hate before it’s Too Late.

Posted by: kaffeen | March 17, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

twinmom48, you are so right about the papers – mine is dallas and i’m also goin to drop – would’ve before, but spend too much time blogging to get to the stuff on my to do list,,,. anyway, they do big stories when it’s harmful to hillary and brief mentions when it’s harmful to obama. and they spin for obama, just like msnbc and the rest. so i’ve stopped reading everything except the sports page and the sunday coupons. and i can get those elsewhere! i will definitely inform them when i cancel that i’ve subscribed for 3 decades and am stopping because of their complete lack of journalistic integrity.

Posted by: so saddened | March 17, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Obama is one of our country’s rare politicians with courage and a vision.
I’m glad he picks up the possibility to talk about the racial issues in this country now that race is at the center of all the attention. It’s still a minefield, as we all know, and we’ll see how Obama deals with such delicate matter.
I think anyone should applaud for doing so, now let’s how strong and convincing a case he can make (btw. the Obama bashers here and elsewhere don’t give a dawn of course, even if would be an historic speech).
Obama is the doing the right thing over and over again, there’s no better President for the USA in these times.

Posted by: Greta | March 17, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Here’s what I think. Obama has heard those things before from his pastor, but he had no choice but to call the minister’s remarks appalling and incendiary, because it is simply impossible in the political and cultural climate of today to discuss what of the minister’s remarks may have carried some merit, and why African Americans feel the way they do. I believe the pastor’s sentiments, however crudely put, are part and parcel of the African American experience and the dialogue that routinely goes on in those communities. (Tune in to CSPAN when it runs Tavis Smiley’s annual State of the Black Union, and you’ll see what I mean.)
I totally believe it is possible to be a patriot, a lover of this country, and still say the things Obama’s pastor said. In fact, I see similarities between what the pastor said and some Martin Luther King Jr. sermons I heard rebroadcast on L.A. radio after MLK’s death (although Wright’s thoughts weren’t as classy or beautifully constructed as MLK’s). But there’s no room in the current climate for the seeming contradiction of the co-existence of patriotism and righteous outrage. White people often react with alarm (smacks of Malcolm X—but in hindsight some of us can see validity in HIS comments, too); and in a fear-based, terrorism-focused and divisive climate there seems to be no room for expressing honestly-held ideas that our country might in part be responsible for 9/11 via our bad acts in various places in the world (even tho that is obviously at least in part TRUE!). Or the idea that it’s ridiculous that the govt should build more prisons, create 3-strike laws, stack the deck against Black Americans and arrest them 3 times as often as whites, and then expect the African American community to sing “God Bless America.”
I think, as the Buzzflash author does, that someone ought to ask the pastor to talk more about his thoughts, and we all should listen with an open mind and have an intelligent dialogue. But it ain’t gonna happen. This will (and has already) become simply an opportunity for narrow-minded attack-dog partisan politics, trumping the substantive discussions we should be having during the presidential campaign, about the economy, the war, education, the environment, sustainability, and a new way of going about our business for the betterment of all.
It is unfortunate that Barack apparently thought his repudiation of his pastor’s comments a year ago would be sufficient. I have no way of knowing if he realized or not that this would come up again (and actually I don’t put it past the Clinton campaign to have made sure it came up with a vengeance at this point). Obama seems a measured man, deliberate and intelligent in his responses (one of the things I like about him). He may well be thinking that his continued measured response, along with continuing to talk about the issues and his general philosophy of bringing people together, will override the current fearful hysteria about this. He may be right; we’ll see.

Posted by: M. Sagrada | March 17, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

I will definitely listen to what he has to say. This preacher has made me question Obama’s judgement and what his true feelings are about this country and white people. If he can explain all of this I may still vote for him.

Posted by: traci | March 17, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

I’m pleased that he is, once again, taking the lead on this. It clearly needs to be addressed, given the massive misunderstandings people on this board display. Then I’d like to see a major speech on his economic stimulus package (which I’m very fond of, being from Ohio.)

Posted by: malthusian77 | March 17, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

LA in Indiana with the typical Obama supporting double talk. Yes, you all are superior; I remember when I was there and realized what a jerk I had become based on Obama’s lies.

Posted by: Betrayel in Words that matter | March 17, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

I have grown weary of this Democratic Presidential Race for the Democratic Nominee; but, moreso I have grown weary of those who lend their support when things are going well. Where is the sustenance in that?
One has pitched Obama as speaking hollow words; well, then how about the hollow support? This is ridiculous!
We all have skeletons in our proverbial closets. So, why shouldn’t Obama? At least the man is trying to make a difference, trying effect changes, trying to let go and begin again.
Agreed, he admits to having allowed some shady persons into his personal space to help with those of his “growing pains” but let’s not withdraw support because he is human, Multi-Racial, and wants to make a difference in the lives of the generation of Americans who stand on the horizon awaiting someone to help them when they, too, will have to go through a period of growing pains.
And, to say the least if this had been anyone other than Obama having won more states, more committed delegates, the other candidate would have been advised by the Democratic Party to leave the race for the good of the party. The mere fact that this person of Novice is generating so much attention gives me the audacity of hope.
At any rate, I think Senator Obama should, in his speech tonight regarding race, let his audience know that he warned his supporters up front, that this was not going to be easy. Change is never easy. Too much has been allowed to take root, and roots run deep, as does still waters…..
Everyone has to start somewhere. And, lest we forget, someone had faith in our ability at one time–when we had no experience except for a wholesome desire to make a difference (just like Senator Obama) fuled by the knowledge we learned from life, and from our class work.

Posted by: Babysister | March 17, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

What should he say?
SUPERCALAFRAGILEISTICEXPEALIDOSIOUS…..
UMDO DIDDLY UMDO DI…..
Then he can end it with;
I’m sorry I tried to dupe you. I resign.

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | March 17, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

There is no misunderstanding. Obama followers truly believe they are so enlightened. We know that his only intentions were to win the race at any cost and it massively backfired with the very weakness he knew he had.

Posted by: Betrayel in Words that matter | March 17, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

The change is only change if opponents and opponents supporters aren’t railroaded with false accusations and claims that he himself is guilty of. The oppression of the other side of the argument clearly demonstrates a Change we do not want. Just because his support intimidates, harasses and forcefully tries to shut down the other side of the argument, doesn’t make him right. No wonderful uplifting speeches will ever erase his dirty political strategies.

Posted by: Betrayel in Words that matter | March 17, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

betrayal….what double talk are you speaking of??
I believe Obama. No double talk there.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | March 17, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Most ironic that Obama now wishes to sermonize on race in America. Recall how he shunned and distanced himself from the more notable black activists: Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton. Note that many of the old cadre of Black politicians never did get on board the Obama bus. They knew.
I feel especially pained for black people in this country who pinned their hopes on this man. He did them and race relations a huge disservice. Obama needs to apologize to Black Americans for his duplicity and deception.

Posted by: marie | March 17, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

LA in Indiana … a breath of fresh air. Listen closely to what the candidates say, study their past. Then you’ll find that Obama is the real deal. He is the best candidate of my adult life, and I not as easily duped as many of the posters on this board.

Posted by: malthusian77 | March 17, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

Well, get ready to meet the hidden agenda of the real Barack Obama. Who will give us all a lecture on race division in America, a lesson, a history lesson. Is this where we want this campaign to go? He should be working on his International policy, econonic policy, job policy, etc.,etc., etc….

Posted by: Gypsy | March 17, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

LA in Ind. words; “Look at the caliber of voters…we shouldn’t wonder why this country has problems, race or otherwise, and will just continue to go down the tubes.
Try a little education people, instead of ignorant, distorted rants.
The inconvenient truth of racism is coming back from a 30 yr shallow grave.”
Perhaps you need to say this to Obama. A lot of the people who supported and are now leaving his side are educated. Not that education provides intelligence, as many blind Obama supporters prove.

Posted by: Betrayel in Words that matter | March 17, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

Obama will tell us that Clinton is behind Wright…..LOL….What a moron

Posted by: MattOhio | March 17, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

“there is no white America, there is no black America. There is United States of America”, There are no blue states, there are no red states, there is United States”- Obama….
does this sound like a racist to you? Listen to the candidates, not to their followers or supporters.

Posted by: Sara Jay | March 17, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

Barack Obama — a man who believes in and now not-so-secretly supports the beliefs of Wright’s racist rhetoric. Is this someone who can honestly and faithfully lead the country? Hardly. Or, perhaps he is the one who can lead the USA into some final abyss. Is this who you want? May God help us if it is.

Posted by: truth | March 17, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

LA in Indiana: Yes, it is true he was in Miami, but not until 1:30 in the afternoon.
That still gave him enough time to be at the 7:00 sermon on that day in Chicago. That’s okay though…the truth will come out.
You can only hide so long!~!!!!

Posted by: norm | March 17, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

malthusian….I actually DID listen to them all, and Obama is definitely different in his message.
I believe he is telling the truth about his pastor. I believe he wants to do what is right for this country. I believe Obama is a decent man, and I believe in his message of hope and change.
If we want to continue this ill-advised war, then we will vote for McCain.
Maybe it will stop when we get to 8,000 or maybe 10,000 military deaths.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | March 17, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

It’s not what Wright says or feels, it’s what Obama chooses to listen too while speaking the opposite for votes. This way he covered all of his bases; he got the angry black vote, the hopeful black vote, the guilty white vote and the hopeful white vote. On top of this strategy, he used oppressive and backward tactics to shut the voice of opposition down and got major help in the process from forces who we cannot say are lobbyists, but whose interests are strong enough to try to override the real side of the Democratic party. He tried to use race to Hijack our party for his “History Making Event.”

Posted by: Betrayel in Words that matter | March 17, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

Many of the people here seem to take their marching orders from Sean Hannity and believe that Fox news is “fair and balanced” Yet think that Obama has “duped” America? Get real. Obama is the real thing and the remaining democrats on this thread should stand strongly behind him.

Posted by: malthusian77 | March 17, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

political, very good points. and obama also says wright was his spiritual adviser, not his political adviser. perhaps so, but consulting with wright before every POLITICAL move seems to belie it. of course, there have been so many lies it’s getting hard to remember all of them.
i think what voters need to remember when obama puts out his pretty words, written by someone else, is – just words. he uses that phrase as an attack tool, but it actually represents what his attempt at damage control will be. there are no words that can erase 20 years. no words whatsoever, no matter how great a job his speechwriters do in writing them and how great a job he does in reading them, they are just words. his 20 years of support and praise for the hateful message and messenger are actions. actions speak louder, as we all know.

Posted by: so saddened | March 17, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

Previous post: “Running for the highest office in the country, you should represent all people not just one nationality.”
I believe the one nationality Obama represents is the one nation under God, the United States of America. Obama prays to the same God you do, but also does God’s work in deeds and actions.

Posted by: malthusian77 | March 17, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

‘mainstream media’ being felt to be ‘forced’ to cover their shining knights ‘spiritual advisor’, Barack Obama will not get a pass from the American electorate. Especially those that actually believe in Jesus Christ, attend church each Sunday, and practice their faith once most of them finish learning more about Barack Obama’s close ties with this hate-mongering preacher called Jeremiah Wright.
America will not be fooled by the ‘mainstream medias’ spinning of this story.

Posted by: MSM | March 17, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

A speech will not erase 20 years of hatred and bigotry your church has delivered every Sunday.
A speech will not convince me to vote for you again.

Posted by: a speech | March 17, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

norm, they already confirmed and stated that he did not go to church that morning.
Some of you will still call him a liar even when the proof that he wasn’t there is in front of your eyes.
Just admit that the majority of you are afraid of having a ‘brown’ president. I’m still trying to figure out exactly WHAT you really are afraid of….I wish someone would explain it to me.
But hey, for the last couple of weeks those that were spewing hateful comments, were calling Obama supporters racists anyway.
Look at the scrutiny.
Did I hear this same scrutiny for McCain/Hagee? Or how about Clinton/Manning?
Manning, who supports clinton, calls Obama’s mother white trash….for what? But do I hear any of your nasty comments on THAT issue??? Of course not.
Your arguments grow more disingenuous as the days grow long.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | March 17, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

Words, speeches filled with perfume and hope
No thank you. Go back to Chicago.
By the way I’m not a racist, I hate liars and people camouflaging as uniter when their backbone says hatred

Posted by: hatred | March 17, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

First of all Obama should stop insulting our intelligence and admit he knew about the anti-american rant that was being preached in his church..
After that i don’t know what he should say, he went there for 20 years. It’s not like he can erase all of this with one speech.
I’m so tired of his speeches anyway,but of course it’s easier to give empty speeches than answer tough questions from the reporters.

Posted by: Missmadeleine2002 | March 17, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

its called projection hatred.
deal with it.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | March 17, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

OBAMA CAN’T BE BELIEVED!
It doesn’t matter whether of not Obama attened a particular sermon or not, Wright has been spewing
his black seperatist, racist, anti-American, pro-Farrakan views for over 20 years!!!
After 20 years of attending the Trinity Church, and choosing racist Jeremiah Wright as his pastor, mentor and advisor, all of a sudden, Obama is outraged by Wright’s remarks and all of a sudden, Obama denounces Wright? Only a fool would believe Obama didn’t know, and didn’t support Wright’s words for 20 years … that’s 20 years! Obama has claimed that he’s the candidate of ‘change you can believe in’ … but his claims of not knowing Wright’s position for 20 years makes Obama unbelievable. His 20 year association with Jeremiah Wright makes Obama’s current denouncements of Wright unbelievable. And, his 20 year involvement with the divisive Wright makes Obama’s call for unity unbelievable as well. Unfortunately, sometimes people believe what they want to believe, rather than what’s true … and, unfortunately, this is one of those times.

Posted by: Howard | March 17, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

Face decor, fake smiles, fake tears, fake HOPE, fake speech!
That’s what I expect tomorrow

Posted by: a can | March 17, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

I resign because I’ve just handed the republicans the tool they were hoping for to defeat the Democrats. “God Damn America.” I will try to make it more about race, however, in the hopes I can be persuaded to stay in the race. That defeat will cost people of colour, the poor, the disabled, the middle class American, the most. Since those are who the democratic party presumes to support, I step down.

Posted by: blindersoff | March 17, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

Rats4000,
You are correct. But fighting with hate is quite different then fighting by dissent. I get the feeling that Wright never understood MLK’s message. Or Gandhi or any other peaceful dissentor.
You can get things done by division, but you can get things done better by unifying. Point is, Obama chose for 20 long years to listen without dissent, to division…….unopposed.

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | March 17, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

kristina, perfect!
of course, the true believes will sing along, thinking he’s going to be fitted for his halo any day now.

Posted by: so saddened | March 17, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

The only thing he could possibly say that would rightside his candidacy for me is if he announces that he and his family are leaving the Trinity Church congregation.
With the new Rev. Otis III presiding over Trinity defending Rev. Wright rather than the movement to transcend race, there is little hope that a continued association will not damage Obama irreparably.
And please, I hope Obama doesn’t make any references to MLK that aren’t completely thought out.
Obama’s church is comparing Rev. Wright to MLK, and that is so far from the mark it’s embarrassing and does an injustice to Dr. King.

Posted by: OhioNative | March 17, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

howard, were you there? how do you know what that man preached other than the 15-30 second soundbites you heard from a couple of his sermons on tv???
you have no clue what he heard in the 17 yrs he was a member of that church.
To most of us with some semblance of intelligence, the soundbites were just that, soundbites. Obama is more than his church. Its apparent he chose to lead his life differently than the pastor of his church.
Stop making the soundbites into 17 yrs of hatred, because that is NOT what it was.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | March 17, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

ohio native, the new pastor is just like the old one, so leaving the church is the only appropriate action for someone who truly doesn’t believe the hateful things they’re saying. but leaving the church would still be way too little and way too late. 20 years simply cannot be erased. it speaks way too loudly about who obama really is. actions taken now just speak about what he’s doing to save his campaign.

Posted by: so saddened | March 17, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

LA in Indiana
Everyone but you knows that Wright is a racist guy. You should read news more often!!!!!!!!

Posted by: MattOhio | March 17, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

la in indiana – it would be best if you stopped trying to peddle the 30 second soundbite argument the obama campaign is trying to sell. remember that the church has been proudly selling the wright hate sermons for a very long time, i.e., there is proof that it is not just a soundbite. they’ve been on you tube, although i hear they’ve been rapidly being removed now that the harm to obama has been recognized.

Posted by: so saddened | March 17, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

Howard stated:
“It doesn’t matter whether of not Obama attended a particular sermon or not, Wright has been spewing
his black seperatist, racist, anti-American, pro-Farrakan views for over 20 years!!!”
Howard, you are so correct. I cannot believe that people are perseverating on whether or not Obama was present in the Trinity Church on July 22, 2007. Who cares and what difference does that really make? Obama had to have known what this “good” reverend was all about. Tomorrow, if he still maintains that he did not know, then he is a FOOL for not knowing or for believing that we would believe that.

Posted by: marie | March 17, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

“United We Stand. Divided We Fall”–I’ve never heard a truer statement than this. Wake up people! This country doesnt belong to US, it belongs to them(the govt and thier rich friends). This needs to stop and its needs to stop now! We can not make this black and white for that will continue their control over us. They want us hate each other! Cant you see? This is about RICH vs POOR! Our ecomony is in shambles. We are losing our homes. We our losing our jobs. We are losing the future of our children to violence in the street and in our schools. We are losing ourselves and our children to bad education, poor healthcare. They want to keep us ignorant because as we become poorer, they become richer! Please people wake up and see! This not OUR country. It is THEIRS and we gave it to them. We are the only ones who can take it back! UNITED WE STAND…DIVIDED WE FALL! Lets get back on track and turn over the racism that this govt so wants us to spew on each other! The division they want to keep amongst us can be no more! We are the same! We want the same for ourselves and our families! We are the same in our core. White, Black, Hispanic, what have you, we all are getting poorer. Let us unite in our differences and our similarities and bring back the America that is OURS!

Posted by: pinky112 | March 17, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

i wonder if msnbc and cnn will air the full speeches – free air time – then go on and on about how obama’s words just send them into rapturous joy?

Posted by: so saddened | March 17, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm

“Racism” isn’t the big problem — the big problem is INCOME, and the cultural injury that comes from the lack of ENOUGH of it, in whole neighborhoods, whole cities.
Despite his “African American” claim, the silver-tongued Obama is not descended from American people who survived slavery — he was raised by middle-class white people, who popped into predominantly-white elite schools at the first possible moment.
It’s about a toss-up which of these uber-income “diversity” candidates, Clinton or Obama, is less authentic. Certainly both of them have embarrassed themselves in playing to actual American blacks, at least from when both of them affected southern accents before black congregations in Selma.
Nominating either of these people would be a drastic mistake for Democrats.

Posted by: Navarro | March 17, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

I don’t care what he has to say. If it comes down to Obama, Mccain or Nader, I will vote for Nader.
Did any of you watch the coverage of New York Gov. being sworn in on CNN? He was introducing the prominent N.Y. politicians. He was just getting ready to introduce Clinton and CNN cut away. It was so obvious they didn’t want her to get any good coverage. If this had been Senator Obama they would not have cut away.

Posted by: Tina D | March 17, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

I can’t wait to see how the Obama butt kissing media will portray his speech tomorrow. How are they going to sell him? What or How are they going to tell us what “is” according to them? How are they going to twist this to make it seem like “he’s” a victim. I can’t wait! Why is he making the speech when most Americans will be working? Probably so that his media can cut and show clips in the evening that make him look better.

Posted by: Johnny | March 17, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

SoSaddened,
Actually, I agree with you, leaving Trinity would be too little too late, for my vote, but I think it might save him with some of his base.
He’ll ask forgiveness for his error, for not taking action, but say that NOW he is taking a stand. (At lease I hope he is.)
If Obama starts to try and explain why Rev. Wright was sermonizing the way he did, or justify it in any way, then bye-bye.
It doesn’t cut it for me, but it will probably be just enough for others who are looking for a reason to cut Obama some slack for his poor judgement.

Posted by: OhioNative | March 17, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

so saddened: There’s a huge party after the speech. :) they will debate every word.
You know AC Cooper and all the other people in the tank for Obama have the speech. They are preparing what adjectives to use tomorrow…

Posted by: Euphoria | March 17, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

you know most of us love this country and even though we are not perfect would NEVER gd this land.all you obama supporters can make whatever excuses that you can think of,your candidate can make a wounderful speech tomorrow and its all based on a big LIE! it is beyound reason to beleive that obama did not know how divisive rev wright is,and by continuing to attened obama gives credibility and acceptance to those remarks.whats far worse to me as a father is his exposing his young daughters to this raceist drival.yet you his supporters want to make excuse after excuse and never hold him responsible.he is unelectable now no matter how you spin it for it is just a matter of time till some eager reporter finds positive proof of his attendance and at that point he will be totally discredited.

Posted by: don tufts | March 17, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

LA in Indiana
So do you denounce and reject Wright’s
hateful actions and statements atleast now?
Yes there might be truth to it…but there is a way a message has to be delivered…Wright doesnt know jack about Christianity….Christianity doesnt have room for HATE….
I dont know why they have a colorful name for the gospel – LIBERATION THEOLOGY.
There is only one way in Christianity for liberation, that is through Christ. I bet Wright dint read the most important chapters in the Bible. He is still rotting in the Old Testament.
And yes I will go read what Manning said..

Posted by: MattOhio | March 17, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

Matt…I gotta go, but I have to say….
I trust Obama on HIS words, not the words of his pastor. I believe he wants to help get this country past its ugly racial history.
Who cares why or how he became black. Yes his mother was white, but his skin is brown, and in our society, that is black (or african american).
Obama has accepted who he is and moved forward, and that is what we ALL need to do. Accept the skin we’re in, and the same with others, and try to make this a better world for ALL our children.
I know I don’t want to continue down this racist, ignorant path. The band-aids we apply aren’t working anymore.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | March 17, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

Ever wonder why he’s the media darling? Senator Obama brought to you by the same media who brought you Bush. Think about it.

Posted by: blindersoff | March 17, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

If there is one time that the power of his oratory should be called upon, it is now.
I don’t know what he can say. I feel like him addressing race in America now is kind of odd. Where was this speech 3 or 6 months ago? But I guess it all depends on what he says and how he says it.
I don’t know if it will change the fact that he did not denounce and/or these statements before. That he has had a close spiritual relation with the pastor for 20 years. I don’t know if he will manage to quell the voices of critics. But who knows?

Posted by: Joan | March 17, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

Some of the comments I am reading try to justify the positions and statements of Reverend Wright with the assasination of Dr. Martin Luther King.
Sorry, but that argument does not have merit.
When John Kennedy was assasinated, I was a child, but I was old enough to understand what had happened. The death of our President did not cause me to hate other people or my country. Instead, I felt a great sadness for the family and our country for the great loss we had all experienced.
When Dr. Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy were assasinated, I was a young man, but I still wasn’t old enough to have a proper understanding of what had really happened. Once again, the death of these great men did not cause me to hate other people or my country. Instead, I felt a great sadness for the families and our country for the great loss we had all experienced.
Many people have given their lives in the service of others. According to the standards of men, some were great and some were not so great.
To use the sacrifice of anyone as a reason to promote hate, blasphemy, vulgarity, vengeance, and treason shows blatant and selfish disrespect for the families, work, and the very lives of these martyrs.
Those who would act in such a thoughtless and arrogant manner should be held accountable along with those who follow and support them.

Posted by: Ken | March 17, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

NOT reading the Bible might also be great idea.
Read Aristotle instead, Montaigne, Diderot… or Whitman, Frost, Stevens…

Posted by: Woosh | March 17, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

‘Believing with you that man owes account to none other for his faith or his worship than to God…I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their federal legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state.’ – Thomas Jefferson
“I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute; where no Catholic prelate would tell the President — should he be Catholic — how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote; where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference, and where no man is denied public office merely because his religion differs from the President who might appoint him, or the people who might elect him.” – John F. Kennedy
We should stop bringing religion into this election. This is for the office of President not the spiritual leader of the country. Allowing religious influence to enter into governmental decisions is a violation of the very constitution a President is sworn to uphold.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

I’ve been hearing that Americans should understand the culture in black churches. That the irreverece of Rev. Wright is common because of the pain and suffering experienced by black americans. I respect (but don’t agree) how this is probably the way they might deal with their history. What I don’t understand is if Obama wants to get past the racial issues, why would he continue to patronize a church which insists on picking on an old scab that you know will bleed again and again. Why would anybody sit through all those divisive messages? From his action, one would assume that he believes and accepts those messages. Especially when Rev. Wright was even recruited to be part of his campaign. I don’t buy his explanation of not being aware that those inflammatory messages. He is very close to the minister. It is just impossible – it is an insult to people’s intelligence.

Posted by: Felicia | March 17, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

I think Barack Obama should announce his resignation from this campaign. I think he should go to work for the Trinity United Church of Christ. This is truly where his allegiance resides. His spiritual mentor for over 20 years, Rev. Jeremiah Wright is a racist, and a hate monger. And likes to demonize the United States with his anti-American rhetoric.
A candidate running for president of the United States claims he did not know about Rev. Wright’s racist, anti-American inflammatory remarks. He didn’t hear them — he wasn’t there? Is that a plausible explanation? No, of course not. I bet he was the only one of the 8500 member congregation who didn’t know? He was married by this man, and his children were baptized by this man. His book, Audacity of Hope, was based on a sermon by this man. Videos were made available for sale to the public. He contributes almost $25,000 a year to this church. Barack Obama appointed him to his campaign — Rev. Wright served on the African American Religious Leadership Committee. Of course, now Wright has retired and has been taken off this “committee” for political reasons. But Barack Obama has decided he is still going to attend this church, since Wright is retiring.
His speech tomorrow will just be an attempt at damage control, not heartfelt sentiments. How can Barack Obama, who supports the beliefs of Rev. Wright unite this country? If he didn’t support his beliefs, he would have left this church years ago. He clearly lacks judgment.

Posted by: Dana | March 17, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

Obama doing damage control to save his campaign.

Posted by: geevill | March 17, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

This week, Obama “vehemently condemn”s his pastor and old friend. Who will it be next week? Did people actually READ “On My Faith and My Church”, which the candidate put on HuffingtonPost on Saturday?
“Let me repeat what I’ve said earlier. All of the statements that have been the subject of controversy are ones that I vehemently condemn.”
Got that? WHATever, WHOever makes any member of the major media NERVOUS — never mind that they have held on to the story of Reverend Wright until now — will be . . . denounced, expunged, fired from Obama-land. Call it “change”.
Instead of worrying that Wright was fiery from the pulpit, in defense of his people, anybody with a brain ought to be worried that this calculating candidate will denounce and condemn ANYbody — and any principle, including the American right to freedom of religion and expression — who gets in the way of Obama’s pursuit of the U.S. presidency.

Posted by: Navarro | March 17, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

Thanks marie -
So the state committee blames everyone else and does not take any responsibility in the decision?
Does the FL legislature have sole deciding authority?

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

Moses: document one single lie from Obama. Just one. My bet is that he will have been more honest than you.

Posted by: malthusian77 | March 17, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

Now here is a good one LOL Another politician in Obama’s camp who lies:
“Asked to explain Durbin’s claim that “many” of Wright’s incendiary remarks were made before Obama joined his congregation, Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor told ABC News, “Sen. Durbin misspoke.” “

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

Where exactly did Pastor Wright say he hated white people?
Why is it that at the first sight of justifiable “anger” from a black person, white people scream and yell and cry “you hate us!”
I think it’s a little bit of projecting. It would actually be liberating for you if you admitted your own foibles and racial hatred and moved on.
If you thought Obama was here to absolve you of your white guilt, then you were destined to have your feelings hurt.
My feelings get hurt when I know I’m taking my life in my hands by driving through Central PA.
I am outraged when I am walking through my own neighborhood where I pay good money to live and the cops stop me and ask me what I’m doing.
I feel the rage of a country of hate mongers who through every word deed and action let me know the American dream is conditional when it comes to me.
At least have the courage to loudly state that you don’t understand or condone black people and stop rationalizing your own hatred.

Posted by: Rats4000 | March 17, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

DCVoter asked:
“So the state committee blames everyone else and does not take any responsibility in the decision?
Does the FL legislature have sole deciding authority?”
I don’t recall all the specifics but was more or less following this as I used to live in Florida. I do think the legislature decided on the date under the guise that there were important referenda on the ballot that could not wait. Hmmmm.

Posted by: marie | March 17, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

When Barack give his talk on race will he address why he has an “AFRICAN AMERICAN Religious Leadership Committee”? Does he have any “Anglo Saxon Leadership Committees”?
I believe it was Will Rodgers that said “Never trust anyone with a hyphenated nationality”.

Posted by: George Baker | March 17, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm

DCVoter posted:
“Asked to explain Durbin’s claim that “many” of Wright’s incendiary remarks were made before Obama joined his congregation, Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor told ABC News, “Sen. Durbin misspoke.” ”
LOL That is sooooo funny!!

Posted by: marie | March 17, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

marie – tripping all over themselves arent they LOL

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

DCVoter: You say “We should stop bringing religion into this election.” I couldn’t agree more. So why the fracas over Pastor Wright? And why, just a few weeks ago, was Obama (and last week, jokingly on the Colbert Report), a Muslim? Next week he’ll be a Bhuddist/Maoist/Arab/Jew, or worse yet, part Irish catholic.

Posted by: malthusian77 | March 17, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

Moses? Anybody? I’m still waiting for a documented lie from Obama. Just one.

Posted by: malthusian77 | March 17, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

Obama is not black. He is half black. The father of my half black grandchildren would be very hurt if they ignored their white side and claimed to be “black”.

Posted by: Sarah | March 17, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

I have never posted any posts caring whether he is a muslim, christian, or otherwise. IMHO his judgement is flawed on several points: he continues to allow his daughters to attend a black separatist church that honors a man who supports Hezbollah and Hamas even now knowing that its teachings include hate speech with content that includes obscenity and sexual gestures; he demonstrated poor judgement with regards to Rezko on several counts; he demonstrated poor judgement including Wright in his campaign. His credibility is in question because he blatantly lied about Rezko and about knowledge of the teachings of his church. The influence in his life of dangerous individuals who support Hamas and Hezbollah and genocide of the jewish people is too great a risk for America. It has nothing to do with race or religion.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

Very clear. Obama lied.

Posted by: Kansas | March 17, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

Sen. Obama should say; I failed the American people and because of lies I am stepping down as presidential candidate! I congratulate Sen. Clinton for her nomination and I will support her with everything I can to win the White House. Bottom line is; American People knew what kind of person Sen. Obama is and the sooner he resigns the better for the democrats.

Posted by: JR, Texas | March 17, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

Just a quick scenario/question:
You go to a church faithfully for a number of years. You take communion or other sacraments through these years. However, because you do go, does that mean that you agree to everything that is said from the pulpit?
If you are a pro-choice Catholic and you stay for the continue to go to the church is that ok? If you believe in same sex unions, but your pastor does not, are you obligated to leave? If you religion believes in the the subjugation and you do not, are you covered, and tainted, by the fact you were a member?
Most important, if this were a white preacher (i.e Pat Robertson) would a presidential candidate be required to refute them in this way?
This is by no means an endorsement of Pastor Wright, but these are legitimate questions. After all why has McCain been given a pass for his crazy preacher? While I do not expect Obama to use his speech tomorrow to fan the flames of race (that would be stupid), the question begs to be asked and answered.

Posted by: Jason | March 17, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

You have not yet produced documentation of a single lie. Every so-called “lie” has been thoroughly vetted as false or misleading. For example, Obama DID give away ALL the direct Rezko money, though it took them a while (understandably) to turn up money from Rezko associates. Bill Clinton has not been asked to give back the indirect money his campaign got from Rezko.
You folks are so conspiracy-wired by Hannity and Limbaugh that you are willing to throw away the best Democratic candidate you will see in your lifetime. Either you’ve been duped, or you’re Republican surrogates.

Posted by: malthusian77 | March 17, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

malth – in the last debate, Obama lied about Farrakahn’s award.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

If I heard God d### America from the pulpit of any church I would walk out.

Posted by: Kansas | March 17, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Bill Clinton is not running for President. Hillary Clinton’s campaign received no direct contributions from Rezko. The indirect contribution of 7500 to a mayor was done before Rezko was under any investigation and has no correlation to the issue.
Obama has admitted to the lapses about Rezko monies only after he was exposed.
Why would we want a President who has o accounting system to account for campaign funding? If there was no money trail how could reporters find it so easily? Simple.. he lied until he got caught… continually admitting to not being forthcoming on what was originally reported as campaign contributions. This has not been debunked. It is facts he admits to only after being caught.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

DCVoter: Please elaborate. I seem to recall Obama denouncing Farrakahn’s positions in no uncertain terms. And Obama has no connection with Farrakahn at all.

Posted by: malthusian77 | March 17, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

So if a white preacher,were to say those words, would it be the same firestorm? I personally do not think so. After all, Pat Robertson said the same thing after 9/11, blaming the United States for bringing this on ourselves because of our heathenish ways.
Pastor Wright’s comments are deplorable, but they are simply more of the same from overzealous preachers of all stripes.

Posted by: Jason | March 17, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

malth – sorry it was not in the debate it was in a speech to the jewish leaders:
Obama told Jewish leaders Sunday: “An award was given to Farrakhan for his work on behalf of ex-offenders completely unrelated to his controversial statements. And I believe that was a mistake and showed a lack of sensitivity to the Jewish community and I said so.”
He downplayed it which I consider a lie of ommission. The award was a lifetime achievement award by TUCC through it’s Trumpet Magazine.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

After his excuses waiting to read the polls, the issue has moved from race to Barack Obama lacking credibility on the real reasons of some people behind his “United” movement.
Considering his pastor was member of the presidential campaign, Barack Obama should announce how he will write letters of apology for those offended, specially the families of the innocent victims of the 9/11 attack.
If Obama wants people to believe him and help mending some fences, Obama must admit knowing the pastor extremist views for a long time, not just since 2007.
Barack Obama should also use his friend Oprah Winfrey apology for initially defending James Frey, author of “A Million Little Pieces.”
Oprah said: “I made a mistake and I left the impression that the truth does not matter. And I am deeply sorry about that, because that is not what I believe. To everyone who has challenged me on this issue of truth, you are absolutely right.”
People are not waiting for Obama “major speech”, just a sincere apology to move on to other issues like the economy.

Posted by: Angel | March 17, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

DCVoter: “A lie of omission” … even though, in the Cleveland debate, he strongly denounced Farrakahn. I still want a documented “lie” directly from Obama, from any of you. You keep calling him a liar, but I have yet to see a documented lie.

Posted by: malthusian77 | March 17, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

“If I heard God d### America from the pulpit of any church I would walk out.”
Well – I wouldn’t. Not if the context of that line was a reflection of the USA using nuclear weapons against Japanese civilians. As it was, in Wright’s sermon.
Or would you say that such an act could be ‘blessed’ by God? No, I’m afraid that a country that commits such a atrocious genocide will indeed be damned by the God of love, compassion and justice most Christians believe in.

Posted by: Manning | March 17, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

malth – very typical reaction from you to change the subject. We are not discussing transparency.
If you think people cant trace contributions via a dB or spreadsheet in short order perhaps you dont know much about campaign accounting and reporting requirements. Reporters obviously had no problem finding the data. The public can find data after it is reported via the open secrets dB.
The Obama camp is predictable… avoid the question, change the subject, point the finger elsewhere. LOL
You asked for documented lies, you were provided evidence by many posters including myself.
You asked why I question his judgement and credibility without regard to religion. I answered.
I used to think he could be a good VP and possibly a future candidate. I advocated for the unity ticket. New evidence has come to light that changes my support. I have made my decision as an American to no longer support Obama in any way now or in the future and support your right to disagree with it.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

Jason – McCain does not have ties to Hagee. Hagee endorsed him and he denounced Hagee’s prejudicial views. Hagee is not his spiritual advisor of 20 years.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

he is going to lie.

Posted by: charlie | March 17, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

This post said it all:
kris | Mar 17, 2008 2:46:55 PM
Thanks Kris… the following posted by Kris:
Senator Obama should admit that he has divided the Democratic Party and America as well by his very poor judgment of whom he aligns himself with. He should tell the truth about his relationship with Mr. Wright instead of spending days lying about it.
He should end his speech by saying he is stepping aside for the good of the Democratic Party and giving a Democrat a fair chance winning the Presidency because he will NOT win.
I’m not holding my breath however.

Posted by: sparklewdc | March 17, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Barack Hussein Obama? Who am I? I am not who you think I am. I am not proud of my country and I do not tell the truth. I am a liar. I have not done anything for my own state and I do not know what I will do if I am elected President. I have no idea where to start other than talk about race issues and convince everyone that I am not a racist. My wife is proud of her country for the first time in her adult life. What more can I say about myself? I am sure if you stay tuned you will find out so much more about me and you will realize that if you vote for me you will be destroying our country as we now know it. Things will never be the same when I get in there and start all of my racist political crap.

Posted by: Pat | March 17, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

malthusian77 writes:
“For example, Obama DID give away ALL the direct Rezko money, though it took them a while (understandably) to turn up money from Rezko associates.”

Posted by: Navarro | March 17, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

DC,
I have yet to see McCain held to the same standard if he actually did reject the support (I seem to remember several pictures of them on the same stage).
I also, in doing a quick Google search, could not find any evidence of the rejection by the McCain folks. (however, i admit it was a quick search)

Posted by: Jason | March 17, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

Obama–yikes,
I agree. I just think it is absurd that Obama even has to deal with this. Last time a checked, nothing said in church effects the price of gas. But if he does not then he looks weak. He is in a no win situation.

Posted by: Jason | March 17, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

P.S. Your claims of lies “are just words” … but still, no evidence.

Posted by: malthusian77 | March 17, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

DC,
He rejected the views on Catholics, not the endorsement. BIG difference.

Posted by: Jason | March 17, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

transparency has nothing to do with lies about what he knows or doesnt know… transparency relates to reporting of funds and records… lying about how much he received and admitting to it is proof of a lie… if you cant see that i cant help you… lies of ommission are also lies and that was directly quoted so there was also proof… glad you gave up some more money to a man who doesnt need it… how about donating money to someone who does like the poor? lol

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

hagee is not someone who supports terrorism so there is no comparison to the endorsements
i think mccain should reject it on principle but the topic was comparing it to Farrakhan and that is not a legitimate comparison
as far as principles, i guess you proved Clinton has more principles because of her rejection of a prejudicial group’s endorsement

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

Jung – nice sentiments but I feel no guilt for things other people did… perhaps you need to look to the serenity prayer which holds that we are ot responsible for things we cannot control

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

Just wait for the video my friends. It is coming as surely as Obama’s downfall.

Posted by: Mark David | March 17, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

I hardly think Clinton can claim any high ground on moral matters. And for the record, Hagee may not advocate “terrorism” but his is a person who advocates a first strike against Iran to prompt the second coming. I believe that is on par.

Posted by: Jason | March 17, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

Have not lost them all, but I am out. Thanks for the differing views.

Posted by: Jason | March 17, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

Looks like a concert event… high priced seats. But you can always contribute the other way.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

I think Clinton has high moral character even if her husband is a cheater. 40 mill dollars of investigations proved that to me.
As far as a strike in Iran… i dot know about that… but Obama’s associates endorsed genocide of the jewish people past and present.
have a good one Jason

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

newb – if you have been following at all over the past few weeks you would know i beleive in separation of church and state .. this is about a presidential election… that person must swear to uphold the constitution that holds that wall… my spiritual beliefs are not at issue and i dont criticise anyone for theirs… i dont think it has any place in government because I am an American who believes in our constitution

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

malth – right wing anti-gay voters do not support democrats… are you implying they will pay good money to get into the concert knowing it benefits Clinton? LOL let em be stupid

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

i wish i got paid by the Clinton camp for all i do for her LOL i dont get paid by any campaign… i am anti-republican but I am an American first… i cant support a man who has pro-terrorist associates so mccain gets my vote if obama gets the nom

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

Seriously; Elton John? OMG! I like his ’80′s hits, but have never been a big fan. On the other hand, my husband, a pianist, loves John’s music. Yeah!

Posted by: Irma | March 17, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

obama—YIKES
I beg to differ about gay rights between clinton and obama… i watched their interviews by HRC when they had the town hall last year… they both oppose gay marriage and both support full rights and civil unions… clinton has been in pride parades… obama has not been in gay community events

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

the only candidates that supported same sex marriage are gravel and kucinich.. all other dems support civil unions… reps oppose both

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

LOL Irma… did you have those big sunglasses and platform shoes in those days? i remember them
mark – i dont think that question has been answered although i remember it being asked

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

getting back to the topic… what do i think obama should say? i think he should say what he thinks is important for the voters to hear… wont change my vote either way LOL

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

I wonder why Kennedy and Kerry and most of the other Obama surrogates are mum? Durbin screwed up today… that was funny

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

It is sad that people remain arrogant and self rightous when they are so blatently uninformed. I believe people ultimately get what they wish for. If 8 years of a war mongering idiot and an incredibly greedy republican administration has taught us nothing.. so be it.. and carry on.

Posted by: hope renewed | March 17, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

What can BHO say tomorrow? BHO has gone to a “black focused”(not necessarily American focused–and it does matter when you want to be the president of the USA)church for twenty years; listened to a racist, hate mongering pastor; lived with a racist, hate filled wife; had the pastor then join his campaign only to then ask him to leave….and denies it all, saying none of that reflects on him.
Now that is a man of integrity to look up to!

Posted by: pp | March 17, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

all he has is spin. we aren’t buying it.
i’m sure his speechwriters will do a great job and he will read it very well, with lots of well-practiced “emotion” and just the right gestures and timing. he does very well at this (unless the teleprompter breaks). maybe he’ll even memorize the speech and pretend he’s just speaking from the heart. whatever! people bought the lines from the empty suit because they sounded so pretty, but the thing about a candidacy built on image is that when the image is gone, so is the candidacy.
if obama wants to have a chance at a political future, he’ll withdraw. that way, he can work on rehabilitating his image, maybe try actually doing some of the stuff he just pretends he has done or can do, and see if he can come back later. i don’t think his ego will permit that. so we will all watch the slow process of the (hot) air coming out of the balloon, until there’s nothing left.

Posted by: so saddened | March 17, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

The more I read all these comments against Obama, I think, he should stay and fight these anti-democratic groups, driven by far Right and Hillary supporters. Remember, long time ago it was said that the Far Right Republicans and Hillary camp are pigs from the same pit.

Posted by: Vega | March 18, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

What “great” speech is going to deliver? With what? he fired he mentor and speech writer. What cow manure is left to say?

Posted by: ruthmatters | March 18, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

ruthmatters, obama has lots of speechwriters to help him write cow manure. sometimes he even pretends he wrote it himself – ha!

Posted by: so saddened | March 18, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am

A speech on religion isn’t needed.
We can trace racism in the church and political system before the eighteen century, and present day.
Can we trace racism in some reporters of the news? We are a United States of America who will work as one to bring about change. I needs aren’t white or black they are human.
Let’s review every sermon written by ministers of every President hopeful, every member of Congress, and every Senator. Don’t forget the past Presidents.
The people in Iowa voted for change in the United States of America.
Respect for others is important and FOX news isn’t the voice for America.
Let us hear the president hopeful speak.
Is Hillary Perfect? NO
Is Obama Perfect? NO
Is McCain Perfect? No
What about housing, jobs, debt reduction, education, health, food, gas, oil and many other matters.
WAR
Is it possible for America to get oil for fighting this war? Will China send in troops and give money for this war?

Posted by: Em | March 18, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am

What should he say? The truth.
That this whole kerfluffle made him think of what he learned from his mother, his father, his step-father, his step-sister, his grandmother, his grandfather – all the people in his family who helped make his what he is. And how little their race had to do with the important lessons they taught him.
Race relations have been, and are, a problem in the U.S. and elsewhere, but it doesn’t have to be that way. Instead of wasting time blaming each other, it’s time to work together to make the future better for all of us.
Ferraro and Wright have demonstrated how easy it is to be stuck in the past. They’ve also demonstrated what a mistake it is to do so – all you end up with is anger, fear and resentment. We don’t want that for ourselves, and we certainly don’t want that for our children and grandchildren.
Look at the crowds at Obama’s rallies and speeches. They aren’t dominated by one age group, one gender, one color. Scan through the crowds and you don’t see those who look alike self-consciously gathering in their own tight little groups. They see each other as equal members of one group with a single goal: helping America to live up to its promise. That’s not some potential future – that’s the present.
We’ve been carrying around baggage marked ‘genderism’ and ‘racism’ and ‘ageism’ for far too long now. It’s time to move forward, and it’s a lot easier to move forward if we first get rid of all that old baggage that’s been weighing us down and holding us back. So throw it out! Let’s move on as one people, united in what’s important.

Posted by: Tom J | March 18, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am

I would like to answer to few question about: Why American people are afraid to talk about race?
1. If a white person talk about black person – it is called racism. And he will be in trouble.
2. If a back person talk about a white man – it is calles comedy. And he make some money out of it.

Posted by: Robin Cruz | March 18, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am

Uggh, what a smug phoney!
More speechifying, minister Obama? How about explaining how it is that you weren’t conveniently there for those particular sermons in the 20 years you’ve been a faithful of that hateful church!

Posted by: Bartlebybickle | March 18, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am

After Obama gives this speech regarding his Pastor I hope there is a press conference so he can answer some tough questions. He needs to do that!

Posted by: Ginny | March 18, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am

Press Conference:
Can FOX News answer question about racism being in America beyond the eighteen hundreds. Why little girls were burned outside of a church in Alabama because of racism. Why some churches have drawn very sharp line over the last twenty years against civil rights? Have we had Senators who has spoken racist remarks about an American Senator name.
Can we end the about racism and move forward?
AMERICA NEED A ECONOMIC CHANGE?
IOWA VOTED FOR CHANCE?

Posted by: Em | March 18, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am

I shall vote for Obama if he is the democratic nominee. but when we vote let us do it with our eyes wide open to the good and bad aspects of our nominee.
Obama is one of the most prestigious citizens of Illinois and to the black community he is a hero on a white horse.
Doris karnes goodwin recently mentioned on TV the characteristics necessary for a great president. one of which is the courage to do what is difficult to do.
His minister, his church, awarded their highest honor to the most viscious antisemite since father coughlin and gerald smith of the second world war period – FARAKHAN.
Either he quietly preferred to ignore it to avoid antagonizing his major illinois support, the black community, which would be cowardice, or he guietly is sympathetic to those views and is too smart to express them, or he is not principled enuf, not courageous enuf to not only openly condemn his church but to resign from it.
I trust him as much as I would trust a pickled herring, but I will vote for him as the lesser of two evils. the republicans must lose.

Posted by: Milton D. Heifetz M.D. | March 30, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

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