Obama: “You Won’t See Me as a VP Candidate”

He is saying no to a VP because it is all strategy and no truth, as usual.
He thinks that if he agrees to be on a ticket as the VP, then people can safely choose Hillary if they think she is a bit more seasoned in government then he is. So he throws it out that if you want him, he has to be President. Vote for me here cause I won’t be around later.
Well, I for one am glad he won’t take a VP slot, because his career doesn’t even warrant a VP position. His invented resume and self-created history is easy pickings for Republicans. He couldn’t take a weeks worth of 2nd grade negative press – can you imagine what this wimp is going to do under a full fledged, we dont give a damn who much you cry, Republican onslaught?

What about the other question? Will he offer the Veep slot to HRC? He may not be running for VP but it looks like she is.

Way to go Obama!!! The question does not arise at all. He’s ahead in the delegate count. So far, he’s ahead in the popular vote, and from all indications that is unlikely to change when all is said and done. If the supperdelegates somehow decides to give this Hillary, we’ll see what will happen.

Sorry, I don’t trust Barack Obama…he’s lied by default regarding his old buddy tony and I’ve followed reports of the Renko trial and,so far, Obamas name keeps popping up and that leads me to think that there’s no smoke without fire.
Give up Obama! You don’t deserve the honor of being VP and you certainly wouldn’t make a decent President. Let’s also not forget Baracks new middle name of “me too”…all he ever says in debates, once Hillary has answered, is “me too,I agree”. He’s getting a little more rehearsed as time goes on, but there are too many unanswered questions regarding him.
Good luck in the campaign Hillary! I hope the Michigan and Florida voters are recognised too.

he reminds me of the kid on the playground…if things don’t go his way he is taking his ball and goes home…i used to think i could vote for him but i rather not vote at all

Bad move Mr. Obama. You are officially toast going forward. I would support you 100 per cent in 2016. Just not today. Somebody else said it — political immaturity. Hey, maybe Samantha Power could be VP. HehHeh.

look, it’s just not gonna work. she can’t win the nomination unless he loses every contest like 75%-25%. and it’s the only possibility for a dream ticket. she needs him. he doesn’t. she can’t get his supporters. he can get her supporters.
her whole life story goes against his. destroys his. his whole life story makes hers slightly appealing. so, there was a time a dream ticket was warranted. but that’s long past. she just can’t win and he just doesn’t need her.
and to those who say he can’t stand the heat, when mccain attacks him, he can punch back, and make mccain look stupid. but when clinton uses the same attacks mccain uses, how do you respond to that? she’s a fellow democrat. he just won’t bring on all the 90′s stuff. so, he’s got his hands tied in his back. so don’t be mistaken. clinton would commit suicide to see not get the nomination. if she doesn’t this time, her career is over. he, on the contrary, is the future of the party. it’s against his character and there’s just no way he’s committing suicide to make sure he doesn’t lose. so, that’s the difference for all of you dumb enough to think she’s doing herself good by tearing the party apart while he’s not punching back.

PRESIDENT OBAMA!
What an impertinent question to ask Senator Obama about VP slot, when OBAMA IS THE DEMOCRATIC LEADER, and is focus on the Presidency?
Who the hell talks of VP slot when they are running for Presidency?
Seems as if the media has bought into Clintons’ childish bluster about the people of Ohio says she ‘should be on top’, as if the OTHER 49 STATES PLUS TERRITORIES HAVE NO SAY.
Maybe Hilary should try being on top of Bill for a while. That should soften her up. lol
Any VP question should be ask to the Clintons!

Di – I live in Chicago and you know so much about the trial, how? Are you a jury member? courtroom observer? The Clintons are superior dirtyfinders – if there was something to Rezko they would have already used it several losses ago. Give your candidate more credit to her craft! The argument that Barack is winning and should consider a VP position with the loser is like Huckabee saying McCain should step aside with his 1,191 delegates and be my VP. This is not rocket science people. You can count this up with my kindergartener’s mathematical knowledge, he has more chips and more people watching his chips than her. This concept is worse than the pundits calling for her to leave the race before March 4. I didn’t agree with that and I for darn sure don’t agree with this crazy theory.

The article says, “…You won’t see me as a vice presidential candidate — you know I am running for president.” Pretty straight forward to me. If I was Hillary and could fairly win, I would look back at him as the dust settles on the kid. Talk about, figure of speech here “cutting your nose off to spit your face”. I hope she doesn’t even ask him. That is a fighter for you. They are tough. It is my understanding she won in Ohio and They have picked the President since, I believe they local news said, since 1964 or so.

Hey “Bridget”, LMAO. Michelle told him he can only run for President one time. Now there’s a real commitment to public service. Hey it just occurred to me, maybe Michelle told him that he cannot be VP, so he’s passing that along. Hmmm, maybe Michelle is the real candidate here. Let’s not rule out Michelle Obama as VP.

Hey “New Yorker”, that’s about what I figured. You are another two-time George Bush voter, attempting to interfere in the Democratic nominating process. You are spouting emotions, backed by no facts. What is your latest batting average in picking successful Presidents, hmmm…ZERO. Why should anybody listen to you. You are just sore because Huckabee didn’t win.

new yorker …where was all that good judgement when he made those deals with rezco, just wait and see as the trial continues

WestCoastMessenger | Mar 8, 2008 12:13:30 AM
When you are running for the Presidency, the focus IS ON THE PRESIDENCY!
All this talk of VP and the like are meant to distract Obama and have him waste time ‘off message’.
And he’s intent on staying focus, focus on the goal of he and his supporters — win the Presidency and transform America for the good of ALL Americans.
So you can focus on VP. Obama will focus on the Presidency.
You have no idea how successful proceed towards the goals that makes them successful.
That is why Obama is running for the PRESIDENCY and you are just running off at the fingers. lol

lupercal your numbers are in error… alagbon your numbers are in error…
kc your numbers are in error…
Without MI and FL the numbers are much closer than the MSM leads voters to believe. They are all different because all the delegates and SD’s are not committed or allocated yet. They are all playing a guessing game because the last state convention is not until Jun 29 and the SD’s dont cast votes until August at the convention. Anything can happen because delegates are not actually bound to the electorate and some will always sway.
Popular vote:
Clinton by 5000
Delegates:
Obama 1124
Clinton 1079.5
Unallocated 343
Surveyed Superdelegates:
Obama 159.5
Clinton 188.5
Uncommitted 348
If Clinton wins 59% of the remaining projected delegates, she will have both the popular majority and the delegate majority but the SD vote is needed for either candidate to get 2025 no matter what. It is very possible that Clinton with the current momentum can pass Obama in delegates. It is statistically unlikely either will get enough pledged to win without the SD’s.
As fas as who is “winning” that depends on your definition of most electable. Clinton can win the electoral college without Obama supporters as she has the equivalent of 252 already. Obama cannot win without Clinton supporters because he only has 144 electoral equivalent. The Clinton camp along with many of the senior DNC folks hold that the most electable candidate should become the nominee to ensure a win against McCain. The number dont lie… Clinton is the most electable.

“New Yorker”, yeah so what. That’s part of the political process. Do you think Clinton’s job is to make it easy on Obama. Just because the press hasn’t given him the usual degree of scrutiny doesn’t mean the opposition isn’t. He’s finally starting to get scrutinized and the cracks are appearing. I agree with another poster, though, he did say it was premature to talk about the Vice Presidency. Hillary and I disagree, she shows that she respects him enough, and that she understands that he would be a valuable participant on her team. If he were smart he would reverse the positioning, but his failure to do that will probably cost him the nomination, in the eyes of the superdelegates. I have no doubt that Hillary will prevail on the popular votes, and that the superdelegates will use this as a basis to select Clinton. I also have no doubt that Obama will be persuaded to accept the Vice Presidential role. I actually want the guy as Vice President and I want him as President when he matures futher.

“SE Croft”, you are getting your wink winks confused, that’s Barack “Wink Wink” NAFTBama. Blame Canada. (Go South Park).

This guy is so arrogant.
He promised to people to withdraw the army combat in Iraq within a year.
His senior foreign advicer just resigned and she said it was only case scenenary politic.
What else he lied about?

I thought Hillary was running for McCain’s VP spot.

It looks like he is doing his usual word play. There is no such thing as a VP candidate so he can state that and be safe. Typical politician… he is a shrewd one but not even close to being as shrewd as Bill.

Oh, please.
I can’t believe that Clinton and her supporters actually have the chutzpah to try this Rezko line. Does anyone actually *remember* the Clintons when they were in office? Remember the first two terms of their “co-presidency”? Whatever shady dealings might lurk in this Rezko story are absolute child’s play compared to what the Clintons have regularly tried to get away with for their entire careers. If Rezko is a too much of a skeleton in Obama’s closet for him to be considered for the presidency, then the Clintons (both of them, but yes, including Hillary individually as well) should be the *last* people anyone should want within a hundred miles of that job.
I swear, it’s like people can’t remember past last weekend.

Ravi,
I retract my initial compliment, your analysis went out the window with that emotional diatribe posting. By the way, you can’t count Texas twice, the same people that voted in the primary were allowed to vote in the caucus. Sorry dude.

Di,
I have to say this to you in particular. You mention following the Tony Rezko trial and implying something criminal about Obama. You really believe that Bush’s Attorney Generals would not have Obama if they could? Hillary Clinton is a “person of interest” in the murder of Vince Foster and was found most likely indictable herself for several financial scams. It was widely known that those money scams that dogged President Clinton all had to do with Hillary because he was the Political Intellectual and she was the bread winner. Please, state your true reason for not being able to support Obama. We can handle the truth, can’t you?
Also to all you others, if you read Barack’s blogs you will know that a joint ticket with Hillary as VP or otherwise would destroy his public career and that in the coming days even stronger statements will come out REJECTING Hillary & her Machine!

The TX caucus count is not completed and is likely going to be challenged on behalf of the voters (and possibly the campaigns) because so many voters recorded the irregularities with their phones and blackberries. Too much evidence shows the vote was tainted. So you cant count them yet.
In terms of the election, even if you dont count the MI and FL voters you can bet the SD’s will take it into consideration because those states are needed to win in Nov. That would put Clinton with a clear majority of the popular vote regardless of TX. The DNC might not consider the will of the people but we should all consider them equal to our own.

Ravi, I agree it counts for delegates, but it does not change the overall oopular vote, you can’t count Texas twice. The pimary number will be a greater number than the caucus numbers, always has been, always will. Caucuses disenfranchis Democratic voters.

Alison,
I’ve been tracking this thing through ABC News and they have been the most consistent counters, they’ve been doing this for the last half century. Real Clear Politics has some smart coders, they’ve been around just since the dot.com bust and still have some learnin’ to do. Sorry.

WestCoast,
Say person X votes for clinton in the primary, now his vote in caucus is independent of the primary vote. He votes again and say this votes Obama.
So vote is valid in both events. that is what I mean in the previous post.
You got be logical but not emotional – we are not getting any money from either of the candidates.
Peace :)
HAIL DEMOCRACY!

alison LOL think about what you are saying… you are adding on the votes from MI and FL of which Clinton had a clear majority in and saying that flipped the popular vote into Obama’s favor? LOL

hiya WestCoastMessenger… some people prefer to dismiss those states for some reason… but hey James Carville offered up $15 mill to help pay for it if FL and MI have do over primaries… maybe they will call it the Carville Primaries LOL I have no doubt other soft money will be donated to the cause… the thing is, Clinton will likely get more votes and delegates than if they count them as is!

I think the Clintons are the only ones who have a track record of doing exactly that – getting us a prosperous economy again. I have watched Michelle’s speeches and interviews – Very divisive and spiteful personna. I havent read anything really good in terms of how people perceive her either so it is not just me. Finding out details about her professionally is really disturbing to me but since she is not running for President I will not hold that against Obama unless I see he is doing something that will benefit her personally by steering money towards the hospital she works at and seeing her another doubling in salary as a result.
I do think it is wrong of her to tell people to not go for the American dream because more teachers and social workers are needed. Such a hypocrit with her $316,000 a year salary from a hospital that charges 3.5 times more to uninsured patients than they negotiate with insurance companies. She stated she and Obama chose to not be a part of corporate America and she is lying because she is and so is he with his near million dollar tax return and book royalties forthcoming. At least the Clintons are honest about how much money they make and 15 years of financial disclosure forms are on file with public access. Obama is hiding some of his because of the Rezko house purchase. – go figure.

Ravi, I’m not disputing your point about the 96 delegates. It’s the “POPULAR VOTE” which will also have standing as an attributive factor when a SuperDelegate decides who to finally vote for. The pledged delegate count will also have standing, but it will be up to the Supers at the end of the day. If Florida and Michigan come into play, with a Carville-generated revote (CMU), then its all over for the Obama camp except for cleaning up the tears.

It is so hypocritic for Clinton to ask Obama to be her VP or even considering a joined ticket.
Howard Wolfson compared Obama with Carl Rove, Ken Starr. Does Hillary want Carl Rove and Ken Starr on her ticket? Perhaps she enjoyed those impeachment days and want to have more? Just a thought.
Those Clinton supporters don’t even see the irony. That’s, ladies and gentlemen, is really ironic.

CrisO8, repeated lies don’t magically become facts. Here is the popular vote as it stands on states where both competed,
Obama = 13,000,655
Clinton= 12,411,705
Difference=588,950
On clearpolitics.com, you can even check the popular vote total at each state.

MI and FL will not be seated, that is what dean frankly told this morning. Florida already working towards the do-over

By the way. No democratic candidate has EVER won the white house by LOSING California and Ohio in the primary. Its simply never happened ever.
Let alone Pennsyvannia, New York, Mass, Florida.
You know, where the center of the democratic party is?
Well, we won the ULTRA LEFT states of Washington Wisconson, Minnesota and his home state of Illinois.
hey, he came from behind and won Missouri at the 11th hour by less than one percent. Whoopie.
The rest ??? ALL red or minature states.
Wow. What a GREAT candidate. He cant even win the main democratic states.

Westcoastmessenger:
Even if we went with your theory of putting a “Carville” generated revote for Florida and Michigan into play, that actually would NOT help Senator Clinton.
Let’s assume, just for the sake of argument that she wins both states in a revote, the math doesn’t work. Why? Because Senator Obama wasn’t even on the ballot in Michigan, so a revote would give him VOTES even if he lost the state. In Florida, again assuming she were to win it on the revote, she is not likely to win it by 17% in a contested primary. Therefore, even under the most optimistic supposition, this scenario does not do Senator Clinton any favors in terms of the popular vote.

Obama should never consider a joined ticket with Clinton, no matter which direction it goes.
She is going to sink the ticket because of her “fight-them-all-to-death” style that alienates independents. Democrats can think whatever they think and fire whatever the cheap shots you have. By the end of the day, it is indepdents who determine the outcome of the election.
Clinton and Obama has a fundamentally different way of doing politics. Clinton is “win win win and win at all cost”, the old dirty and nasty slash and burn politics. Obama is simply the fresh air that the nation has been longing for. Clean, issue, solution-oriented politics.
Hey, by the way, Clinton wants a joined ticket with Obama. Wasn’t the same lady who compared Obama with Carl Rove and Ken Starr? Are you sure that was the same lady? Really? The same Clinton? Hillary Clinton. Somebody pinch me, please!

Popular Vote Count
State Date % Vote In Obama Clinton
Popular Vote Total - - 13,000,655 12,411,705
Popular Vote (w/FL) - - 13,576,869 13,282,691
Popular Vote (w/FL & MI)* - - 13,576,869 13,611,000

SD your logic doesnt work. I did a spreadsheet on it both with and without MI and FL. I gave Obama votes he didnt earn by giving him the 40% undecided. Clinton still comes out on top in the popular and delegates from those states. Also there are superdelegates from those states not included in the 796 but I think they should be punished still since they are the ones who agreed with the republican legislatures to change the primaries and disenfranchise voters.
Bottom line I tried to get across earlier was that the MSM sites are all guessing on delegate counts. So all this arguing back and forth on them is ridiculous. The last state convention is June 29 and none of the delegates or superdelegate votes count until the convention since they can all change how they vote if they want to. It is all a guessing game on projected delegates and superdelegates. The MSM has been wrong on predictions and projections in polls etc. Why would you trust them now? As to how some people are getting numbers to swing to Obama in the popular, a MSM site must be screwing up because the official numbers show Clinton in the majority as it should be. So adding MI and FL (Clinton majorities) can only make her numbers go up more.

Hey “SD”, I disagree. I predict an even greater shift in Hillary’s favor after a) sweeping Pennsylvania, and b) a re-vote of a disenfranchised population. Until ABC News says otherwise, I’m convinced that Hillary currently leads the popular vote, and with a re-vote, in primary forms, she will continue to do so. Good luck with your thinking, though. Please check back here at the end so we can see who has to eat crow.

Actually Tom, that’s not true. In 1960 JFK won NEITHER Ohio nor California.

catiger – as an American, why do you want to punish voters who had no say in changing primary dates? The SD’s in those states that run the state democratic committees and the republican controlled legislatures determine the primary date changes… they should be punished not the voters.
MI and FL voters should not be punished. They are Americans with a voice. Anyone wanting to disenfranchise them should be ashamed because that is un-American.
I think it is a waste of money to make them revote but if independent sources are offering up the money let it happen! The end result will tell us who is right or wrong. But the important thing is to count the votes now and in Nov. Are you afraid Obama will lose? LOL

That’s my guy!! Good for him! He does not need her, but she will definitely need him. In fact, the Democratic party will need him to consider VP if they overturn his lead in delegates to pay back favors to the Clintons. I think it would be the end of the Democrats as we know it–Independents would gain a whole new and younger set of voters thanks to Hillary.
And Barack better NOT sign on to any ticket with her. NO. NO. NO. I would not vote for either of them if that happened. Seriously, I would sit out altogether. McCain has more integrity than Hillary, and I wouldn’t vote for him because of Iraq. I’d skip it all come November.
Stand your ground Barack!!! As an Independent, I’ve grown to like you quite a bit, but not enough to vote for you if Hillary’s anywhere on the ticket.

catiger – i use real vote tallies (voter turnouts with caucus percentage preferences) for the popular vote… this is what the experts do also… most of the MSM stations are showing skewed numbers making it hard to add them up… i have an election source at George Mason University who analyzes elections and they have web page up with the turnouts and VEP percentages … Clinton clearly has the popular vote. The TX SOS also issued a statement today saying Clinton won the TX popular vote and the caucus count was ongoing. So someone is fudging numbers on these MSM sites.

Micheal – let’s talk about who needs who LOL
equivalent electoral votes of states that are not Rep strongholds:
Clinton 252 of 270 needed
Obama 144 of 270 needed
There are not enough electors left for Obama to beat McCain.
There are easily enough electors left and Clinton is favored to easily carry enough electors to win.
Obviously it is Obama who needs Clinton and Clinton does not need Obama. The numbers tell the real story not the pundits or the campaigns.

Hillary’s proposed dream ticket exposes her usual political expediency….
She now argues that Senator Obama lacks sufficient experience to be president with one breath and in the next suggests that he could be her VP. The single most important criterion for VP is readiness to serve as president.
Her argument is ludicrous. See it for what it is…she understands clearly that she has no legitimate claim to the nomination and is desperately grasping for straws.
Make no mistake, America is hungry for real change. We are sick to death of her establishment arguments, her deplorable tactics, and her many faces. Honesty, integrity, and a moral compass are simply not in her makeup.

The VP is in charge of the Senate (which could be good for his speaking ability) and is groomed for readiness to serve as President only in an emergency. Clinton has been his mentor since before he became a US Senator and afterwards. If she thinks she can help him be ready I believe her. But on his own, he is demonstrating each day how much he is not ready on his own. She is offering her guidance and experience to him and attempting to unite the party in the interest of the voters. She acknowledges the tremendous support he has earned even though it is wavering as shown in the last election round. This will go up and down probably all the way to the convention and neither candidate will have the delegates needed. Both candidates should acknowledge that the voters are telling them they like them both. The party has the expertise and the analysts to determine who is the most electable at that time. The SD’s will weigh in based on the analyses and help us determine who will be the nominee and the running mate. Both candidates should be open to the will of the voters… this is public service… the voters are the boss not the candidates… Clinton seems to be the only one mature enough and concerned enough to realize that.

DC Voter: As it stands, Florida and Michigan do not have any delegates and those primaries were UNCONTESTED. Adding their numbers in, is disingenuous. But feel free to enjoy your fuzzy math.
Westcoastmanager: ABC news counts Michigan and Florida in the total, which is erroneous, since Senator Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan and Florida was uncontested, making it a name recognition primary. To include any numbers from those states is an exercise in creative math. Since ABC news INCLUDES Florida and Michigan, then a do-over in those states would only increase Senator Obama’s numbers and decrease Senator Clinton’s, EVEN if she were to win both states. This being the reason why Senator Clinton does NOT want a revote.

SD – I have not used fuzzy math at all. The electoral equivalents do not include MI and FL. If I did that like the MSM did, Clinton would have more electoral credits.
Your assertion that Obama would get more than he already has based on the existing vote (even if you are so un-American as to discount them) makes no sense. The percentages are clear and giving Obama 40% of the delegates in MI would be generous since the undecided vote was in place of several candidates who disrespected the voters by removing their names.
Assuming tow primaries are held as is being proposed, with the current polling, Clinton is expected to win FL by a larger margin (12-16 points) and is tied with Obama in MI. Clearly that would add to Clinton’s tally on popular and on delegates. In addition, it would validate her as the most electable since MI is a Dem stronghold and the numbers already show FL will likely swing Dem this election. In other words, it would put her well over the 270 electors needed for a Nov win without Obama’s supporters. In that sense, if she is the nominee, she unites the party by default since the only real party voters supporting Obama are new voters (mostly students who have a notoriously bad record for showing up in Nov) and the liberal lattes that are already unhappy with the party. The other supporters are the Indies and the disgruntled Reps. Obviously, Clinton and the DNC want the party to grow as Obama has helped grow it but if they are not party loyal because Obama does not do the right thing if Clinton gets the nom, then it is Obama’s fault not Clinton… she is making clear attempts at party unification and making sure all the votes are counted (as she did and said before any vote was taken in MI and FL).

golfgirl – he states Michelle will only let him run once for Prez… maybe she whipped him into saying it is Prez or nothing? ROFL Hey there is anoter bright note… in the event he manages to get the nom and for some strange reason beats McCain… he will only be around 4 years and get nothing accomplished… but he wont run again cuz Michelle said no LOL Clinton 2012 looks as good as 2008

Another thing that the SDs have to consider is the impact of losing this election in Nov. If they Dems lose, the voters will blame the DNC and not unite in 2012. So losing this one will likely result in McCain for 4 years and whoever his VP is in the subsequent 4 years and possibly that one goes another term of 4 years depending on age and performance.
So if the Dems dont win this time they are looking at likely 8-12 years more without a Dem in the WH. I am sure they dont want that to happen. The numbers show Obama had a good momentum going but it was in states that the dems wont carry in nov and he has not garnered enough equivalent electors to beat McCain in the dem or swing states.
Let’s say the SD’s select Clinton and the voters get mad. The core (her supporters) will likely continue to support her with the fringes fractured. The fringes did not support her anyway. The DNC then has 4 years to mend the fractures and Clinton has 4 years to convince voters she is good for another 4.
By that time, the party unifies again. The numbers already show the Obama voters are not needed for her to beat McCain so I would not be surprised to see that. Holding new primaries and trying to get the delegates to show a clear winner that agrees with them is obviously an easy out for them.

Why would he run along with her? She is everything bad about our government. Too much heavy baggage. She and her husband collected 131 million dollars from this Canadian gentleman who hooked them up overseas. Free trade. NAFTA? Collecting fees for helping out. Much bigger fees when your president and can change and not change laws.
A lot of people are out of work because of NAFTA
Why would you want to associate with scum?
But don’t worry,McCain will win the nomination.
The wisdom of the DNC will let Hillary and Obama slug and bloody each other. Obama has the pledge delegate lead.
When the DNC super-delegates overturn the pledge delegates for Hillary or run to Obama side, one side will not vote, may vote for Nader or McCain.
If they overrule Obama, 90% of the black vote will be gone and all of the first time and young voters will join.
If jumping to Obama, over sixty years old and women will protest. I don’t want to miss the uneducated that Hillary always says she gets. They don’t know better.

The big Dem. states will go Dem. in Nov. no matter who is on the ticket. The trick to winning is pulling in the swing states. Some of the states Obama won.
There is a case to be made for both sides on what state wins is better.
On the other hand all the negativity by the Clinton campaign serves to remind people what we didn’t like about the 90′s. The constant fighting and investigations, lying and impeachment.
It would serve all involved to behave. For heavens sake quit saying the Rep. is better than any Dem. So stupid!

Obama was right to clarify things.
I remember when Bush was running for his second term and people were claiming he would be fine because Colin Powell would provide balance. Powell had made it clear (to those paying attention) that he would resign after the election, but he didn’t state it in a place and way that everyone would be 100% aware of his position.
As a result, the election may well have been affected by voters acting under a false impression. I don’t want to see that repeated.

I am under 30, and apparently not ‘seasoned’. Gosh, you people over thirty have really done so well with the world, why would someone as young as me question such sound judgement? Obama is trash? No wonder people my age never vote.

As a passionate voter, in the beginning I would have voted for Senator HRC if she won fair and square. I have been so disappointed by the fact that in Ohio she attracted the most uneducated, hopeless freaks, and she acted like a bipolar case rather than a commander in chief. She would not congratulate Obama on his wins, as he did the night she took Ohio and Texas. I don’t work for any campaign and to me the woman is just plain creepy.

cc – i guess unlike you, i dont care about investigations of the past… they were about Bill and the results were what they were… she showed great strength and courage under fire… when the RNC tried to go after her she vetted clear on all counts… what i remember about the 90′s was our prosperity… i have no problem with Bill being there in an advisory capacity… he is one of the smartest guys in the world and even the Reps admit he is the most politically savvy when it comes to both the voters and foreign relations… the difference for me is: Clinton combines her own experience (lawyer/faculty/author/first lady/children’s champion/human rights activist/civil rights activist/accomplished senator/29 yrs battling the RNC), lessons learned from Bill’s mistakes, track record, new working relationships forged, experience with other cultures around the world, she doesnt just know OF foreign leaders… she knows most personally and is highly respected, the list goes on and on… i will not blame her for the mistakes bill has made.. and i will credit her for all she has accomplished in spite of him… she earned my respect and my vote long ago

Let me see, Clinton has had more than a sixteen year head start, an arsenal of funds and political connections, a highly popular President as her spouse and Senator Obama has come from relative obsurity, inspired sincere action among the public, set unheard of records in fundraising,been wiping the floor with her with large margins in most contests–and she barely squeaks by in those she wins–and we are supposed to believe she is the better candidate to be on the top of the ticket? How does that work? Good luck with that argument Hillary. I am a die hard Dem, so I am voting for whoever has a D behind there name in November–but I am very fearful that if Obama has her on the ticket, he will lose more of his supporters than he gains of hers.

No Deal – as a die hard Dem you should understand that she appeals to most of the Dem core… you should also understand she is winning the dem and swing states and he is winning mostly red states that wont matter come Nov… this is about electability and qualifications… his record fundraising is directly related to the liberal latte (rich left wing that doesnt like her)… only 30% of his fundraising has been grass roots even though he would like you to believe it is all grass roots… the inspiring speeches are apparently not enough even when he outspends and outcampaigns her… the mo has shifted… people are not liking what they see now regardless of what they saw before… he is starting to show his inexperience and that matters… people know we cant afford another guy in the WH needing OJT at this time in our history… we also cant afford a guy trapped in the cold war either so the McCain argument doesnt fly with me… the decision we make now in voting Dem is simple – who is the most electable because if we put up another nominee that cannot beat the RNC machine… kiss the WH goodbye for 8-12 years… i for one dont want to risk that on hope… we know where hope has gotten us for 8 years now

im stocking up my bomb shelter because you all McCain is taking us into WWIII. This whole process is null and void cause we are all gonna be dead by FEB!
Nostradamus said: “2008 storms ruin a young nation, the end starts where old people go to die”

As far as all the supposition around who will abandon the Dems come Nov based on dislike for the nominee… that really isnt a valid worry. 80% of all registered democrats are happy with either candidate. 80% of the voter turnout in the dem primaries far exceeds the Rep turnout. I dont think it matters. What matters is who has the strongest support in Dem stronghold states and the swing states (19 of them). The Red stronghold states dont matter. I have been keeping track… Clinton is at 252 electors and Obama is at 144 electors… pretty clear who is winning the states that matter most to beat McCain. She has a valid argument.

By the way, the reason people quote sources like Real Clear Politics instead of ABC on delegate and popular vote totals is because the ABC numbers are demonstrably wrong. For example, ABC still shows Clinton winning California by 230-178 delegates when the state actually certified its results at 203-167. Oops, ABC off by a mere 16 delegates! Even Clinton’s results tracking is more accurate.
Realistically, an accurate count of pledged delegates and careful survey of superdelegates (e.g. demconwatch) show that Obama is still up by 150+ total. Good luck closing that gap — the ‘delegate math problem’ is truly worse for Clinton now than it was before March 4.

If Obama is on the Ticket in the General Election, Everyone Should vote McCain.
He is the one who condemn anyone voting on the war. Casting blame and Demeaning His President.
He said he would withdrawal the troops from Iraq, but said he would re-deploy them to other parts of the world, Afghanistan, Pakistan (Not bring them home).
He is the one Who brought up NAFTA first
condemning people for it, and being against. Scaring our bordering neighbors.
He is the stating he would raise min wage every year – Causing a stir to prepare for that – higher prices, laying off of jobs in preparedness for this.
Targeted big business – by removing tax breaks and loop holes, starting their preparedness.
He is the one telling our youth Don’t aspire to go into corporate America,to take jobs as teachers and nurses, that is what we need, working class jobs. – Riping apart the hopes and dreams he sold a few months ago. causing concern of Socialism.
He is the one who wants to bring religion into the government. hmmm Just like the kind of government the middle east has.
He is the one who wants to commit vast amount of money to feeding the world hungry. Above and beyond what we do now.
He is the one who wants to raise retirement age. Taking The burden off Social Security, leaving the Medicare and medicad funs for the poor and others. The working class probably will be dead by then and not be able to collect anything, while all the other programs taken out of this will benefit.
Affordable health care for all – Will this be another benefit working class will lose as a benefit, and have to pay for it, along with paying the taxes to pay for everyone else.
Illegal immigrants – making them citizens. will flood the welfare doors.
So those Ohio people should hurry up and work those working class jobs, cause someone has to pay for all this.
Send the illegals home please………..
So you have set fear into this country,
Pissed off our allies and neighbors, and other foreign leaders.
Causing business to start preparing for the future, Higher prices,layoffs.
Told the American people you need them as laborers….. Not to Hope or dream of more.
You do not want to bring our boys home, just send them some where else to fight or war.
Your priority concern is the poor, the low-income, handing out and giving and giving. Raising the level of enabling.
You can blame the war on Bush.
The rest pretty much falls on you mr obama, inciting fear of you possibly being president. That business and others preparing for it, started a downward spin on the economy, and other things. Was that part of your plan to start?
No thank you mr obama we like Democracy not your Fascist or socialism kind of government.

Arrogance. nothing else.
Barack is an empty rhetorical display of what a political sleaze is. No substance needed. Media darling. Hype maker and elite backed.
Hillary’s been there done that, survived media savagery, resurrected after so many near deaths,victim of unpleasant marital scandal , withstood years of GOP crap and even a crappier FOX NEWS team, a Senate star, a kinder gentler face vs Michel or Oprah.
I prefer her. Obama is shallow. McCain is a Bush rehash.
And there is no darn perfect persona like Santa running.
And yes, do not put too much spin. Politics all around is crap.

Hillary is experienced enough.
Ob 1 Barackie is not

i think Hilary is a good VP for John Mccain, according to her mccain is better than Barack as commander in chief, no no no no its HRC commander in mischiefs.

Hey WestCoastMessenger,
WELCOME TO THE “NEW” WORLD.

Good for Obama. Stay away from the scandal ridden Clintons. He doesn’t want to suffer the same fate as Gore.

He’s saying NO to VP because a Clinton Presidency is everything he stands in opposition to.
Lies
Fear mongering
Hidden Agendas
Inability to bring people together
Secretive non transparent etc…

Obama – that’s great you won’t be a VP candidate because I would NOT vote for you even if you were 2nd on the list, with Hillary as president. You’re out of your league in this race and have deceived the American people enough. It’s time people woke up to the FRAUD your campaign is.

According to Real Clear Politics, Obama leads the popular vote (excluding Florida and Michigan) 13,000,655 to 12,411,705 or by 588,950.

RE: Ohio picking the president for the last 50 years. Missouri has picked the president for the last 100! Guess who won Missouri?

Great answer Barack!! No way should he put her on his ticket…and there’s no need to even ponder about him being her VP…just ain’t gonna happen!!

Lov the answer,good going.She is using this like everything else.Just to pad her own way to the ticket,Never trust anything she says.Everything is Hillbilly.She got all the BIG ststes what about the little ones????We don’t count?????

Obama’s remark is NOT presidential. It is arrogance – but then he’s a young senator so what can you expect from him. If Hillary should win (I believe she will) and if she offers him the VP he should graciously take it and consider it as an honor. But I could see Michelle telling Obama absolutely not. Michelle is that kind of woman. So here we have it again Obama and Michelle’s integrity at question. I would take it as someone who really isn’t serious about the political scene – about changing America like he says and it goes back to again rhetoric and just words. It wouldn’t surprise me if Obama quits the senate if he loses the nomination.
Plus, it’s really no loss if Obama declines the offer for VP because I’m sure there are many others who would love to have that honor.

Obama the narcissist? If that is not the pot calling the kettle. “Scathingly Brilliant?” More like incredibly naive. Hillary Clinton used her marriage to get her to 2nd base – the Senate – name one action of significance that she did before becoming a Senator? I can: the 1993-94 health care debacle which cost the Democrats to LOSE the House because she of her shady dealings AGAINST THOSE IN HER OWN PARTY. She is a divider. She is Nero fiddling as Rome burns. She cares NOTHING about the American people. Obama was a civil rights lawyer and constitutional law professor. He worked his way up. All pols have their downsides and we are absolutely seeing his but I’m still more confident in his abilities and judgment than Hillary’s. She couldn’t even run her campaign right until it was mired in lies, dysfunction and fear mongering. If THAT is the type of environment she clearly thrives in, no thank you. She is NOT presidential.

Obama does it once again. We here it from his adviser that Obama said you count on his words for a troop withdrawal from Iraq. If you can’t trust his words then what kind of president is that? Why would Obama tell another country something different than the country that he is running for the presidency. First we had Canada and NAFTA now we have the BBC and Iraq. Smells fishy to me. It just goes to show that you can’t trust Obama on ANY of his policies because he would tell the American people one thing and then stab us in the back by going to another and telling them another thing. He just panders to what people want to hear. What I see is not a unifier like he says he is, I see someone who is a divider and putting America in more danger by destroying our credibility.

Dr. Austan “NAFTA” Goolsbee, Dr. Susan “No One’s Ready for the Call” Rice, and Dr. Sam “Monster” Power are three important advisers to Obama.

Well I say HOORAY!
It’s about time Senator Obama took this tactic away from the deceptive Hillaryous Clinton. She has been running around “eluding” to the fact that she would have Obama as her VP in order to get voters to take comfort in voting for her. Well now it’s on the record that he will NOT be her VP so she can no longer get any leverage with that tactic.
If I were John McCain and Hillaryous showed up with an Obama VP, I would never get thru rubbing her face in the fact that she herself claimed that he was beneath me in terms of experience for the white house, so how could she select him to be next in charge. In her negativity, she has blown any chance of even making an Obama VP choice look viable. Because of her reckless antics, it would be nothing but fodder for the republicans.
As far as Obama selecting Hillaryous for VP, forget about it. Aside from the fact that he saddles himself with her ridiculously high negatives, the republicans will have the same field day. They will rub his face in the fact that his own VP endorsed his(McCain’s) experience over Obama’s.
Now do you all see how foolishly Hillaryous has behaved? she does not deserve to be Obama’s VP, and Obama does not have to worry about being hers because 1) he doesn’t want it, and 2) she’s NOT going to be the nominee. period.

People – 80% of the party supports either candidate… the division you see here on the blogs is hogwash… in any case, Obama only has support in states that will give their electors to McCain and a few democratic states 144 electors… Clinton has won almost enough of the key states to beat McCain 252 electors… she is also leading in the popular vote (MI & FL do count on that even if you are so un-American like Obama as to disenfranchise them – because they count in the general election)… there are no caucuses in the GE… only real votes by secret ballot… hence, Obama cannot beat McCain without Clinton supporters which is the core of the party… do you think it is a good idea to alienate the very voters you need to win?… the SDs will decide on the winner no matter what but all of the voters voices should be counted so let’s finish this thing in June as it is supposed to be… if Clinton wins 59% of the remaining electorate she will pass him up in delegates… if there are delegates who dont show at the convention at any point in the process they can be replaced by alternates from either side based on the voter’s will at that moment… right now anything is possible… but lets stop all the sniping and lies and try to stick to the facts :) the vote smart org website has all you need to know on 40,000 politicians including the candidates for President… letting yourself be duped by the MSM and the RNC machine only gives them what they want… more money for ads and division among the dems… you are being played by the RNC

i read these comments and i have to wonder when this OBama generation ever learned politics…
do you guys not get it? california, new york, new jersey, Florida, Ohio, Texas…and more
these are the states that matter….idaho and nebraska and the state of DC and Virginia doth not maketh a president…[oh, i forgot, vermont is his too right?]
give me a break…you lose Ohio …and you lose california by 15 % and you lose Florida by 10 % and you guys think your guy is still “presidential”…
Obama lost Ohio for one serious reason…he forgot the working poor whites of southern and northwestern ohio…
its that simple…he won the big cities where the money is..
so…to the one who wrote “clintons won the big money states”…you need to go back and learn something about Ohio and Texas rural poor and see why they voted…for the clintons..
and by the way…we don’t dislike Obama..he’s an educated person and an inspiration to many
but he got caught up in his own ‘vanity’ you may say..and NEVER ONCE VISITED APPALACHIA ONCE personally…
and this cost him dearly…very very dearly…
the clintons may have warts and have some ‘divisiveness’ but we’re going to need their fighting spirit for the working classes of this nation come november…
finally, hillary did more in her first five years out of law school than Obama has done in a lifetime of law and professorship and community activits..
just read a little and you will discover what a legal advocate and genius she is…and then try to keep an open mind about her…she literally jump started voter registration in south texas among the latinos and she jump started many of the national laws on children’s protection and head start in this nation…
and she knows world hunger issues as well as anyone in the world and this is a very very complex subject…
and tell the chinese who is being tougher on human rights and economic trade than Hillary?
we love her and support her precisely because we do know her…and Bill…the beautiful intelligent old codger that he is..we appalachian’s like our men to be…frankly…real men

Obama: You Wont See Me as a VP Candidate

I guess this puts to rest the dream ticket theory!
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Good For Him….Go Obama!!who wants to be paired with a CHEATER…I hope playing by the rules will finally pay off…
Michigan and Florida broke the rules and now we are going to reward them for doing so, not only are they going to get the reward but they are going to have the HORNOR of essentially choosing the nominee. How is this fair to the other states the followed the RULES? This is a JOKE, but I am not surprised fairness in a democratic process, HA!!! And we want to be an example to other nations on how Democracy works, Right. The voters of these states need to be angry with their local officials and should have stood up at the time they were told that they would not be seated if they moved their primary dates. Just plan crazy what and example of justice….Rules why do we have them. Now (some/most/all) the voters and local officials in these states are going to BULLY the DNC to have a do over when it was their local officials that put them in this situation. SHAME SHAME SHAME!!!

DCVoter, I usually find your insights interesting but in the electoral math department I think your position is flawed. Senator Clinton has beaten Senator Obama in these traditional battleground states but polls indicate that she will not fair better than Senator Obama in these very same states in the general election. Please check Survey USA, they have been extremely accurate in predicting many of the primaries thus far. I realize that polls can and will change as the process advances but it is the best information I have at the moment.

From Real Clear Politics:
Popular Vote Total -
Obama 13,000,655
Clinton 12,411,705

If by some miracle Clinton wins the nomination, there’s no way he’ll take a VP spot. She CAN’T win without him and with her defeated, he’ll roll to victory 4 years later.

Good for him. Don’t take the bait.
He’s smart to do this and here’s why:
1) Obama’s vision for America does not include the ugly, divisive tactics of HRC’s.
2) He is not going to play the “sidekick” figure that HRC and her old white crowd think that minorities should play. You know, like that asian boy in Raiders of the Lost Ark, or the black partner to the white cop. Sorry, he will not be the “bone” that HRC throws to the African American community in a spirit of tokenism.
3) After Al Gore’s experience, no sane person would want to play VP #2 to Bill Clinton. Playing VP #2 to Hillary was bad enough.
4) I thnk he truly doesn’t want to be VP. He is something of an idealist. The VP is a job, like governor, for people who want to hold high offices, instead of people who want to change the country.
5) Hillary can not win mathematically. She can’t catch up. She;s hoping to try to steal the nomination in the back room. Problem is, if the first AA candidate in US history is robbed, the AA community (not to mention the millions of young people) will sit out November. She is guaranteed a loss if she steals it. By refusing to allow her to steal the nomination and put him as VP to quell the outrage, he is calling her bluff.

Interesting that HRC would consider Obama for her VP. The threshhold question for choosing a VP is someone who will be ready to be POTUS should circumstances require they step in. Apparently HRC must think Obama is ready on day one afterall.

Senator Obama shouldn’t lose any sleep over whether he will be on the same ticket with Senator Clinton.
Hillary Clinton has better judgment that to pick a Rezko puppet for a Vice Presidential candidate.

Those who claim that Obama won the small states would give him an advantage in the GE are delusional. Those small states were caucuses and yes, causes tend to favor Obama because to me whoever is better at bullying is the winner. Most Obama supporters on here by their comments and in caucuses are bullies.
Secondly, in the General election there are no such thing as caucuses, so where is Obama going to find his advantage in these small states. Is he going to change the rules and make them vote by caucusing?
Those small states are Red states. Obama has not won one single big state yet. And I don’t think PA or FL will go to him either. IT just shows that he’s good at organizing ground troops afterall he was a community organizer, maybe Hillary can appoint him to community organizational work when she’s president. I think Obama would do a fantastic job at Organizer of State.

Good for him. Don’t take the bait.
He’s smart to do this and here’s why:
1) Obama’s vision for America does not include the ugly, divisive tactics of HRC’s.
2) He is not going to play the “sidekick” figure that HRC and her old white crowd think that minorities should play. You know, like that asian boy in Raiders of the Lost Ark, or the black partner to the white cop. Sorry, he will not be the “bone” that HRC throws to the African American community in a spirit of tokenism.
3) After Al Gore’s experience, no sane person would want to play VP #2 to Bill Clinton. Playing VP #2 to Hillary was bad enough.
4) I thnk he truly doesn’t want to be VP. He is something of an idealist. The VP is a job, like governor, for people who want to hold high offices, instead of people who want to change the country.
5) Hillary can not win mathematically. She can’t catch up. She;s hoping to try to steal the nomination in the back room. Problem is, if the first AA candidate in US history is robbed, the AA community (not to mention the millions of young people) will sit out November. She is guaranteed a loss if she steals it. By refusing to allow her to steal the nomination and put him as VP to quell the outrage, he is calling her bluff.

Alright its reality check time. There is no way the superdelgates are going to give the nomination to Hillary even though she will be the best nominee. Former Gov. of Virginia Wilder stated it plainly, that if the superdelgates give the nomination to Hillary there will be rioting in the streets. So there is nothing that makes these old mostly white superdelegates more nervous than seeing black people in the streets burning and looting like it was back in 68. So they are willing to take the risk of losing white blue collar workers and possibly the election in order to pacify the black community. I can see it now Jesee Jackson and Al Sharpton who have up to now been invisible walking up down the streets of Denver saying something like “if you ain’t white you ain’t right”. So I don’t care how many do over’s there are and even if Hillary wins all the swing states and the popular vote this thing is a done deal.
I for one will keep fighting for Hillary because I refuse to be bullied into voting for Obama. Come fall the DNC may wish that it had paid a little more attention to all those poor, uneducated, blue collar workers that Obama’s people like to make fun of in their blogs. In the end this election will not be about the war in Iraq it will be about the war on the middle class in this country, from losing their homes,jobs,educating their childern,buying groceries,and filling up their cars with gas. With all his eloquent speeches about hope and dreams they do little to impress the working class in this country and thats why they vote for a plan and not a man.

Of course you wouldn’t see him as a VP candidate. He doesn’t actually care about America he just wants to be president! If he were someone who really felt he could do good for the country then wouldn’t being VP be a good place to be? But for him – as for everyone else in the race except Ron Paul – it’s all about the power, the position and the money. Shame on him.

“Bowman — No one has ever won the presidency WIHTOUT Ohio.”
I had to laugh when I read this. Does anyone remember when Ohio gave the oval office to George Bush? THAT’S your Big State Strategy in action. Apparently some of you like seeing seas of red with a few dots on the side.
The Big State strategy almost killed the Democratic Party. Clearly, some of you would like to see it again. In fact, I can’t help but wondering if the people who are pushing the Big State strategy are actually Democrats.
Won most states. Won most primaries. Won most caucuses. Won most delegates. Won Texas! Won the popular vote. – Obama 08!

Bowman: What red states is Obama going to win in November? Please list them for us. Ask John Kerry if Ohio is important!

people who claim that he didn’t win CA NY etc make me sick. Are you guys seriously think he can’t win those states? Even a dog would win if running for as a dem. This primary was a dem vs a dem and one dem favored over the other doesn’t mean that he will lose the GE. The ignorance of pundits on TV is belief.

The bottom line “one shot” per Michelle. If he’s running for President, why would he settle for VP. That’s crazy! I have been listening to alot of people in this district and they have said they will “NEVER” vote for “HILLARY AND BILL”. Old politics is over. We the People need to be heard moving forward in this every changing world, and I believe Obama will give the People every opportunity to be heard and gain back respect for the US abroad. HILLARY AND BILL will never listen to the People, they are so use to old school ways and most important wanting this warpped power to step on people. Their mentality will continue to divide the US and the entire world. Hillary’s nasty, smirky remarks when it come to Obahma is so apparent. You have never seen or heard him be disrespectful towards her. Why, because he has integrity. She’s (no she and BILL) are the one’s who can’t take the heat on their past decisions. I have lost all respect for the CLINTON’s. So, Obama will be President or McCane because I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR HILLARY!!!!!!!!

Clinton’s recent tactics took her out of the running for VP (as well as president). It is time for Edwards, Richardson, & Biden to stand together with Obama and get this unstoppable train moving faster.

thanks @Bowman. Than is what I was talking about. everyone should check it out. The witch is trying everything to get to his status. He is 30,000ft and she is reaching out for evrey possibility that she thinks make her staus come close to him. Not this time around witch. she is constantly sending out het attack dog Wolfson to needle him and get him off message but nomatter how tempting and testy it is to come back at them, I think BO is better off just ignoring them and stay on message. while I’m at it, I like Dashel’s position this morning for asking Wolfson to resign. It is really clever and at least this will put them on the defense and that is where we want them to be.

I think the Obama campaign has lost it…now they are asking for Wolfson resignation…how negative are they going to get…Obama better give up …even his advisors dont know Obama’s position on issues..what a sorry campaign

I think Senator Obama said I think it is premature. He also said that he is running for president. He said you won’t see him running for vice president. This would make sense when you are running for president. Who runs for vice president? Thats like saying I’m shooting for second best. I think too much is read into his statement. Many times a candidate will take a “Vice” post to prevent division or unite among a party, also to solidify future potential runs at the top spot. But I don’t think anyone actually runs for vice anything.

Obama YIKES: Glad you liked the read. You are right of course there are many black working clas americans. I did not mean to leave them out. But as you so wisely stated they are not voting their pocket books this time. I am not surprised I can clearly understand their commitment to elect th first black president. Who can blame them? MY problem is that the DNC is charged with the task of getting a democrat elected in November. I feel that too much attention has been paid to the War and not enough on the economy. I think Ohio answered which one is more important to them. Who cares about who voted for the war or did’nt first. Most working class people just want to get us out and start helping them win the war against hunger, poverty, education, and helping them save their homes and jobs. It seems to me that Obama represents the elites of our party and gives very little attention to those who get up everyday go to work and still find themselves not making ends meet. What about their dreams? Some on here said go to Obama’s wed site and you will see his plan. My answer to that is if we have to go to his web site then I don’t think he has done a very good job of articulating it. Too much time spent on the war and not on the economy. I think that is because he represents the elite of this party and not the working class. They are richer,better educated. They do not live from pay check to paycheck. That is how he is able to get 55 million dollars in one month. I fear that to forget the heart of this party will result in defeat. In the end it is “not the jetset it is the Cheverolet set”.

Latest National polls show Clinton up 1% over Obama in trustability in National Crisis situations…..She has turned the tide….We see the light

DO you think he can win Ga. in the General I wonder

Bishop: Do you think she could win Texas and Florida in the General? I wonder.

With the way his wife and his Advisors are blurting out disingenious comments…I dont think this Obama’s campaign is going to last for long..he better go for VP spot now…

DCVoter: Excellent analysis. Don’t forget there will be no caucuses in November. It will be one big primary including Ohio,Pa,WV,Ky. If we can’t win here we can’t win. I asked someone earlier to tell me which red state that Obama will win this fall. I am stil waiting for an answer. The democratic primarys in these states are made up of predominately of black voters. So with a little help from the left wing white liberals Obama has dominated in those states. In almost all these states Hillary has won among the core democtats. That is she is losing to indpendents and left wing liberals. Where do those core democrats go this fall will decide the election. So all of you Hillary bashers think about that. They called them Regan democrats for a reason. As Regan said I did not leave the Democratic party the party left me.

Kelly – you are wrong about the math. If Clinton wins 59% of the remaining pledged delegates, she passes Obama and would hold both the delegates and the popular vote. Facts are facts and that is not a pipe dream.
The bottom line here is that both candidates have equal support from the voters participating in the open primaries and caucuses. The dem party believes both candidates are promising but their primary concern is winning in Nov. It appears to me that Obama is not even a real democrat – he needed the support of Black America (as Michelle stated) and most of them are dems. He did not have a shot on an independent ticket because even though Indies are the voting majority, the black voting bloc only comprises 17% of the voters. Combined they would not have enough impact on key electoral states to win an election. Hmm maybe he is just using the dem voters.

Malthusian77: Why are core democrats not supporting him strongly now? Why are they supporting Hillary? What southern red states will Obama carry this fall. Why did Kerry lose Ohio in 04?

This election is about race. Look at the percentage of blacks voting for Obama. It is just rediculuos 83%.
After all good thing that Clintons did for them.

malth – the dems are not a bunch of uneducated people and you and the Obama camp insult them which is probably why they are no longer supporting him… the white collar dems are just as educated as the liberal lattes… but if you think a college degree is what makes people smart your analysis is flawed… bush has a college degree and was supported by college educated republicans and conservatives who are blue collar… nice try but no cigar

kerry and kennedy are well known dems who failed in their tries at the presidential race because they are liberals who cannot win an electoral majority even when the core democrats tried to support them. if obama is the nominee we will find out in Nov if the enough of the core democrats will once again swing over their vote for a moderate republican. Oh for the poster that said Obama involved RFK… scuse me the RFK clan (the moderate Kennedy half) endorses and actively campaigns for Clinton… you seem to learn the rhetoric well but hey i wont blame you the student, i blame Obama the teacher

DC voter
I never said that the college educated were smarter. I said that 1) they are one of Obama’s strongest constituencies, and 2) they are most likely to put money behind Barack.
Martha
I would never vote for McCain, but I could not face myself in the mirror if I voted for Hillary. She is too conniving, her economic plan is dangerous, and her foreign policy will be no better than that of Bill or George.

DC Voter: You are right. The democratic eagle can not fly with one left wing!

WELL GOOD BECAUSE WE WILL ALSO NEVER EVER IN A MILLION YEARS SEE HILLARY AS A VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE EITHER!!!!! I DOUBT VERY MUCH SHE WOULD PLAY SECOND FIDDLE TO ANYONE ESPECIALLY SOMEONE LIKE HIM THAT WOULD ALWAYS BE ASKING HER WHAT TO DO IN ANY SITUATION, BUT I DO MEAN IN GENERAL ANYWAYS BECAUSE IF I REMEMBER READING CORRECTLY IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH ISSUES SHE HAD WITH AL GORE DURING HER HUSBAND’S ADMINISTRATION THAT LEAD TO IT BEING SAID SHE WILL NEVER RUN AS A VP CANDIDATE!!!!!! SO I GUESS YOU ALL CAN EXPECT TO LOSE IN NOVEMBER BECAUSE NEITHER ONE OF THEM WILL GIVE IN TO BEING SECOND FIDDLE IT SOUNDS LIKE!!!!! IT IS A SHAME THOUGH BECAUSE HE REALLY COULD LEARN SO MUCH ABOUT GOVERNMENT UNDER HILLARY TO GAIN THE EXPERIENCE FOR THE JOB IN EIGHT YEARS AFTER SHE WOULD BE DONE!!!!! SHE DOESN’T NEED TO BE SECOND FIDDLE TO ANYONE BECAUSE SHE ALREADY KNOWS WHAT THE JOB WILL TAKE, BUT HE DOES NOT!!!!!!
Just my thoughts though.

Malthusian77: Watch the news sometime. Hillary attended the Jefferson Jackson day dinner in Mississippi yesterday. Where was Obama? She also attended the State of Black America conference in LA. Obama refused to attend this important conference on the problems facing black america. Looks like Obama can afford to ignore black america. Just like he fails to say he knows who Jesee Jackson and Al Sharpton is . Hillary calls them here friends. Obama can’t be seen as being too black. Thats the irony of his campaingn.

OBAMA IS GOING TO BE PRESIDENT. THE REPUBLICANS HAVE ALOT OF GENUINE DIRT TO BRING OUT ABOUT HILLARY THAT NO ONE WOULD LIKE HER TO SHARE A TICKET WITH HER.TO MAKE HILLARY YOUR VP IS TO ASK FOR A BULLET. ANYWAYS WE NEED A BREATH OF FRESH AIR FROM THE BUSH/CLINTON DYNASTY.

FROM BUSH TO HILLARY = FROM FRYING-PAN TO FIRE. I THINK HILLARY IS A REPUBLICAN. SHE IS TRYING TO CAMPAIGN FOR JOHN WAR MCCAIN AGAINST OBAMA. HILLARY SOULD NOT EVEN BE IN THE SENATE. SHE SHOULD GO BACK TO WALMART AND FIGHT AGAINST WORKERS AS SHE USED TO. THAT SUITS HER BETTER WITH HER EXPERIENCE.

Maybe she knows that Edwards or Richardson will back Obama and she’s given up on them.

Hell no he will not be her VP…and she will NOT be his! Obama is ahead in popular vote, states won, and delegate count. She will NEVER catch up with him..even with do-overs in Florida and Michigan. She has no hope and the Superdelegates are watching….
Why on earth would he negotiate with this woman. Hillary will only drag his ticket down. She comes with tons of bags…
This is fair and square…Obama is a ahead and he will remain ahead and the Superdelegates are smart enough to go with the voters (or lose their jobs!).

isaac – a dynasty includes blood relations like the Bush Dynasty. The Clintons would not be a dynasty unless Hillary and Chelsea were to both become presidents like Bill did. The largest political dynasty in our history is the Kennedys. Notice when Obama didnt have a chance to compete he quickly got himself adopted by the JFK side (liberals). He wants to change things? Ya right… you are being duped. This is Kennedy and Kerry’s chance to control the WH they failed to win. It will bankrupt the country and the world and plunge us into depression and multi-front wars caused by desparate people around the world following madmen like Momar and Osama. Momar has already weighed in on the election after becoming a so-called ally of the US by telling the world that the US will revert to his form of Libyan government with secular socialism. Most Americans are moderate because they know the country needs a balance between consumers and businesses for its economy to thrive.

THE TRUTH IS HILLARY HAS BEEN LYING, SMEARING, CRYING, DENYING, ACCUSING, AND BETRYING THROUGHT THIS CAMPAIGN. NOW, WHY IN ANYONE’S RIGHT MIND SHOULD SHE DESERVE TO BE PRESIDENT? WE TALK ABOUT BUSH BEING EVIL AS PRESIDENT, BUT HILLARY IS BEING EVIL JUST RUNNING FOR NOMINATION. WHAT IS SHE GOING TO BE WHEN SHE HAS THE POWER? GOD KNOW, BUT I HOPE WE DON’T GET TO FIND OUT.

What the SDs hope is that the voters will swing to Clinton so they dont have to be courageous or that something else will happen to justify a swing. Lots of vetting still to be completed between now and convention time. It really depends on the courage of the SDs who are not serving a constituency along with those already courageous enough to support their candidate of choice (not the ones who succumbed to pressure to swing over to Obama based on race). Some people think what we are seeing might just be a white and female backlash against the voters who are voting based on race. After all, that is what the numbers are showing now. We can only guess as to whether it is related to race and gender. The other theory is that his inexperience and inability to handle pressure under fire – (the vetting has begun finally) in what should be a spirited campaign not a popularity contest – is the reason voters are swinging back to Clinton. The so-called Rush Limbaugh push for republicans to try to fix the primaries was funny because most of those people voted for Obama. LOL For the first time in the history of the democratic party, the Identity vote has caused the white voters to become the swing vote.

Quotesome up here..———-By the way. No democratic candidate has EVER won the white house by LOSING California and Ohio in the primary. Its simply never happened ever.———-
have you forgotten , who is here in question?ß. Barack Obama…Yes!.
A democratic presedential candidate who lost california and ohio in primary has not till date won in General elections ..No doubt!! BUT
Barack Obama is a black man who has won in all parts of america and a presidential front-runner!! Wake up you americans..WE ARE IN the 21st CENTURY and the primaries aren´t over yet!. Tonight will bring him and his campaign another win. I love it that he said something about his his position on the Vp issue immediately.

Obama is the American Idol candidate.
If you look at his record, he is a professional candidate–meaning he is always running for office and never staying in office to accomplish anything. Did you guys see his speech commemerating the Selma March of 1965? He says that’s what brought his parents together, and lil Barack was the result…he was born in 1961. Words, just words. It’s time to wake up all right. Don’t you ever wonder where the heck this guy came from, how he’s been pushed so far, and by whom?

Mrs. Bush’s White House renovations will be featured in Architectural Digest. I had not realized that the Lincoln Bedroom originally had been Lincoln’s office and was turned into a bedroom during the Truman administration.
An indication of the change a President Obama would bring to the way business is done in Washington would be if he were to change the Lincoln Bedroom back into an office to use it himself as his upstairs office. This simple redecoration would tell the American people that President Obama has put an end to the practice of selling overnights in the Lincoln Bedroom. This is the kind of change America wants.
President Obama – 24/7 Ready on Ring One!

As an African American, I will not vote for a ticket for Hillary with Obama as VP. Why should Obama be her VP? She will not win without Obama on the ticket. I guess Obama looks like a FOOL to her. Obama is TOO smart to fall for this foolishness. The problem with hillary she believe that all black folk are stupid. I despise this woman. I just wish she and her husband will just go away.

Does anyone know if Senator Obama has ever visited Iraq or Afghanistan? He has not mentioned his visits to these war zones in the debates or in his speeches. I was just wondering.

Why would anyone be her VP?
Bill will be co-president!
Why should Obama accept such a meaningless, 2nd class, 2nd rate position?
Screw that. He knows better than to be on a losing ticket!

Neither Obama nor Clinton will become our next President! They both are very flawed candidates…

RobK,
I agree with your statement. Obama would rather go back to the Senate than be VP to a dual Clinton presidency.
For those comments in the blog regarding why African Americans switched from Hillary to Obama; Both Bill and Hillary have sought to bring race into this campaign, and that’s exactly what African Americans did not want. The Clinton’s bit the hand that fed them. You can’t claim you have their support on one hand, and the other you are comparing Obama to Jesse Jackson, and denigrating the folks in Mississipi with her recent comments.

He shouldn’t want to be her V.P. He shouldn’t want to be anywhere near her, her lies or her political drama and disorganization.
The Dems can’t win without him being on the ticket, with best shot having him as the lead and a non-Clinton as V.P. If he or we as voters want a Republican, we’ll vote for the real one: McCain not Hillary.

I sure wouldn’t want to be a Hillary lapdog.
Its bad enough she is still in the race without her going any further.
It would be her, her husband and then Obama shoved into third place.
Aaa NO THANKS!

Hillay knows she is not going to win, that is why she keeps bring a joint ticket up. You should have organized in the caucus states. This is another sign of bad judgement. She thought she would coast through this primary and America would just give her a win. Well for all of Sen. Obama’s talk about hope, Hillary is a fortune-teller. She did not take the time to organize in these states, another bad judgement call for her.

It is too late for either candidate to consider the other for Veep. Too much scorched earth because of the Clinton campaign. I have news for ya. If he is the nominee and he chose her I would vote for McCain and I support Obama. Choosing her would show poor judgement.

Here is my take on so-called ‘dream ticket’
If Clinton wins the democratic nomination, having Obama as VP would greatly enhance her ability in capturing the white house.
On the other hand, if Obama gets the nomination, having Clinton as VP would diminish his chances of getting elected as president.
Clinton is wise enough to realize this and has been talking about Obama as VP. She knows that it would help her in capturing the white house.

GOOD FOR OBAMA! We don’t need Hillary anyway. She is the past, WE THE PEOPLE are bringing the FUTURE with Obama. Hillary is hoping on STEALING the nomination because she knows she can’t get it honorably. So she is going negative, using smear tactics – the typcial “scorched earth” policy of the current political parties. Hillary = McCain = Bush –> Hillary McBush. Obama = hope, change, the average person getting their voice back in politics and this country.

Good for you, Obama. Reader, don’t worry about Hillary might be the VP. By the time he has to pick, her disgraceful conduct will be so pronounced that no one would accept her as the VP anyway.

It is Hillary who is running for VP, not Obama. Hillary knows that even if she wins all 13 remaining contests by a 10% margin (which she will not) she will still be behind Obama in delegates going into the convention. She is hoping to force a negotiation that puts her on the ticket as VP. It is nearly impossible for her to win more delegates then Obama and she knows it.

University of Chicago; member, Illinois State senate 1997-2004; elected as a Democrat to the U.S. Senate in 2004 for term beginning January 3, 2005 how could he oppose the war he was not even there to vote that out and you want change how do you think your going to do that by standing by someone who is going to shake your hand and vote for nafta behind closed doors and wink wink nod nod .oh it makes him look good by firing the girl that worked for him by showing example calling sen. hillary clinton a monster but he keeps the person who leaked out about nafta to canada,excuse me and he will sell pieces and parts to other countries like bush. you trust so easy well i guess you will learn and thats ok and for veterans i like to see him do somehing for us which i doubt in the long run he will just keep us out there just like bush. yes the other muslims will be dancing in the streets,because he fooled you………oh well .vp it would be to good for you.

We can see why Hillary’s base is heavily populated with under-educated people – she can fool them. This VP thing is just another new trap/trick of hers. That is the kind of things she gets from her 35 years of experiences and some of us American people like her to run White House with. Say “NO” loud and proud Obama and we will follow you to the end.

Tiptop …. you are an embarrassment. Thank you for not voting for Obama. You fit the characteristics of a Clinton supporter. You and Hillary are true match ….MONSTERS!!!!!

I still cannot forgive Senator Clinton for her vote to go to war with Iraq. So many innocent young Americans have been killed without Senator Clinton asking the Bush Administration any questions. I am so, so afraid to have the Senator answering the telephone at any time; she may send our young people to fight a war without asking any questions. Oh, one other thought, just what did Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton do for foreign policy?

I do fear that if Obama becomes our nominated candidate, it may be a 4 year Presidency,
& the Republicans will take over again.
Nice guy,so was Carter.The strongest ticket would be Clinton with Obama VP. One could certainly not challenge the experience then.
This campaign has been a battle between “Imagination” and “Intelligence”.But it is also about Electability and Sustainability.
The choices the super delegates make will require intelligence and not rely on “hope” or “wishful thinking”.

Bill and likewise should call this “Clinton-Obama ticket” a big Fairy Tale. Hey, isn’t that true that Hillary is the one who is behind the total delegates count? Since when the country would take a loser’s VP idea so seriously? As smart as Obama is, he should know that by having Hillary as the VP he might as well give up his race for President.

This VP “offer” is just another meaningless Clinton tactic. It is part of the Clinton’s scorched earth policy where they threaten that they will get the nomination or they will destroy the chances of anyone else.
Because they have less popular vote and little chance of gaining a lead in elected delegates, they are now threatening the super-delegates with this scenario and offering a VP spot as consolation to avoid ripping the party apart.
Obama would not share a ticket with these two. He has integrity, class and values. Words the Clinton’s don’t know.

It’s just more arrogance from the Clintons to suggest Barack take a seat on the back of the bus, and be her VP. The comments that are being made like the ones from the senator from Idaho are a direct result of Hillary’s comments on 60 minutes…..she is a “monster”

Yes Barack has visited Iraq. If you want insight into Barack read his book “The Audacity of Hope”

To all you Hillarites who seem to feel Obama is being ungrateful, pompous, foolish, what have you — ask yourself this question:
What would the Dragon Lady’s response be if Obama suggested SHE be HIS VP running mate?
I’ll tell you: I’d bet the farm that she’d rather be Monica Lewinsky’s personal secretary than even entertain the notion of playing 2nd banana to Obama.
People, it’s way too early to even debate this. Move on to something that matters.

Hillary has lied and planted false news stories and Obama is about moving against her kind of politics. Why would he be her vice?

To those who think Obama’s comments demonstrate arrogance on his part — don’t you think it’s MORE arrogant of Clinton to say that she deserves the top position when she’s trailing in popular votes, delegates and states won?
Both candidates have the right to fight it out till the end, but I hardly think it’s arrogant for the guy in the lead to brush off suggestions that he should give up. Despite what the press may say, the race is still very much in Obama’s favor. He picked up more delegates than Clinton in Texas, a state that Hillary “won”, he won Wyoming by a huge margin, he’s favored to win in Mississippi in a few days — why on Earth would he be thinking about a VP role at this point?

What a mis leading headline. He said it was pre-mature because it is. You have taken, again, the Clintons’ talking points by even asking him that. While you should be asking what exactly her experiences are. Like who did she represent at the Rose Law firm, Was there a conflict of interest in the contracts between her at the firm and Bill as Gov. of Arkansas? Who is Web Hubbell, why won’t they release documents relating to her time as “first lady?” He is ahead in all aspects, states, delegates, popular vote. I don’t hate Hillary supporters, but think about this. Mark Penn helped represent blackwater and countrywide, she has top PR people using tested words, just like corporations do to manipulate people, why would she need that if she can stand on her own?

LOL @ the HRC supporters here. It is true, her supporters might be a little slow. You’d have to be if you buy into the “change” she’s shilling for.

What a mis leading headline. He said it was pre-mature because it is. You have taken, again, the Clintons’ talking points by even asking him that. While you should be asking what exactly her experiences are. Like who did she represent at the Rose Law firm, Was there a conflict of interest in the contracts between her at the firm and Bill as Gov. of Arkansas? Who is Web Hubbell, why won’t they release documents relating to her time as “first lady?” He is ahead in all aspects, states, delegates, popular vote. I don’t hate Hillary supporters, but think about this. Mark Penn helped represent blackwater and countrywide, she has top PR people using tested words, just like corporations do to manipulate people, why would she need that if she can stand on her own? as far as experience, Barack Obama taught the constitution, helped pass ethics reform, death penalty reform, in the state senate sponsored over 800 bills. I would take someone who taught the constitution and saw clearly what would happen in Iraq over someone who claims experience but doesn’t provide any facts and actually prevents us from knowing what exactly her whitehouse dealings were, where they got their money. I mean, if the qualifier is being married to someone, than I suppose Laura Bush could be president? She is ALSO a jr. senator

@ Tiptop
You are an evidence for that fact that those who vote for Clinton are mainly uneducated people.!!!

One more comment:
Not only is it beyond presumptuous for Clinton to even suggest that she will be the nominee at this point, and making it sound like a privilege for Obama to be her running mate — but it is also completely insulting. The woman has called him a liar, a plagiarizer, she’s doubted his religious beliefs, pretty much endorsed McCain as a better president, belittled and demeaned his experience as a state legislator, US democrat, and community organizer–then has the audacity to posit a dual ticket. Even ignoring the apparently disputed delegate and popular vote count, this is just beyond comprehension. She really has no scruples, and will say anything to try to brainwash voters into thinking that she is somehow magically ready to be president.
If she did by some horrible miracle of fate become the nominee, and Obama swallowed his pride and became her VP, then perhaps it would be an unstoppable party — as well as the ultimate sacrifice by Obama in the name of the Democratic party.

Clinton knows that she must have Obama as a VP if she were to steal the nomination. If she can’t wint the nomination she will do and say anything to make sure Obama loses the generalShe demonstrates by her behavior that she would rather see McCain become president before Obama. That way she will be free to run in 4 years. Her love for the country is 2nd to her ambition

How dumb is that to expect someone who is running for Pres. to say, “Sure, I’d be VP to that witch.” He is running for President people!

Let’s all calm down. He said he would not run for VP. Noone every runs for VP. So why is everyone reading so much into this statement.
Hillary brought up the VP issue and he responded. He could not let the impression that he was running for VP stand without challenge. She would have done the same thing.

Are people that silly to think that Barack Obama would accept VP??? Also how could he possibly ever consider running on any ticket with Hillary. I will not vote for her for anything ever. It is not going to happen. Her people can give her a pass on her intellectual dishonety and manipulation, but 35 years of vaunted experience should have meant she’s had learned that lying is not going to get her any where. Look at Bill, Oops,well he did slip through that noose he set for himself didn’t he. Yeah! Obama !let them know they can save VP for the guy who didn’t choose to run for President!

Why would Senator Obama even consider being number two on a ticket when he is WINNING, will continue to be in the lead, and Hillary cannot possibly make up the delegate deficit? Even now, superdelegates are defecting from her to Obama! As for a “dream ticket,” whether millions of folks could stomach Hillary as Obama’s Veep is another matter entirely, given her monstrously nasty lying behavior. Think half the country hates her now? Try 3/4 if she keeps fighting so viciously. At this rate, she would *never* win on any ticket without Obama on it and she knows it. Of course they’re trying to finagle their way onto the ticket by any means possible, and I do mean “they.” Bill is just as complicit.

If Hillary is elected, she will not be able to be effective. Her campaign will cause many other Dems to loose their seats, and the majorities. The Repubs will fight every piece of legislation, and begin the impeachment hearings ASAP.
Why would Obama want to be associated with that?

Hillary reduced Obama’s lifetime of experience to “one speech in 2002,” praised McCain while humiliating her co-Democrat on national TV, then she and Bill now hint to “give” him VP?
It’s a clever attempt to get Obama’s supporters, but it won’t work. She won’t get my vote, for sure. Not after insulting Obama’s credentials, and allowing supporters to smear his African family.
In anycase, Obama’s in the lead, so the scenario is presumptuous.

She keeps the floating the idea because she knows she will never be able to get the votes he has. She has turned off a large part of the democratic base with her fear-mongering and racist acts. She needs him more than he needs her. If he loses he can stay in the Senate and make a name for himself and try again in four years when America gets tired of John McCain. For her its now or never while Obama is young and he can try again. It’s not selfishness look what happened to Gore’s presidential aspirations after being associated with the Clinton’s.

Good for him. Obama’s ahead in delegates, popular vote, and campaign ethics.

It is ridiculous for you Clinton supporters to be here and in other blogs suggesting that a candidate who is ahead by every metric has to now say okay you win. Some here even suggest he is arrogant even though he knows, as most people know, that unless he is caught in bed with little boys there is no way she can overtake his lead in “ELECTED” delegates. Hillary Clinton is not entitled to the office of POTUS. For most of the time this how her campaign has been run. Thank you Howard Penn. This is nothing but a ploy to superdelegates and also to Obama supporters who would feel disenfranchised by a STOLEN NOMINATION. At this point she could not win without Obama on her ticket or without him actively supporting her ticket after she has STOLEN THE NOMINATION. And it would still won’t be enough because most of us would know the NOMINATION WAS STOLEN. BTW, With a Clinton in the White House in 2009 Democrats will not win in 2016. There has been no benefit to the party from the Clintons. They are polarizing and we would lose both the Senate and House before 2012. Futhermore if the Clintons STEAL THE NOMINATION Obama is under no obligation to waste whatever Political Capital he could have for the future just so that the Clintons can get what they want, POWER. Recent history has shown that VP doesnot enhance your resume for running for POTUS. Better he go run for govenor or something than be her VP.

Some people are amazing in their ability to post stuff that only broadcasts their complete ignorance.
For example: In 1960, JFK won neither California (won by Pat Brown) nor Ohio (won by Michael DiSalle) in the primaries. But what do you know? He was eventually nominated (via a brokered convention) and was elected president. And in case you aren’t sure, he was also a Democrat.
Whichever Democrat wins the nomination this year, he or she will win New York. No question. Also MA, and probably CA. It is unlikely that Obama will win Ohio. But Clinton will most certainly NOT win Ohio. Nor is she likely to win CA. Obama will likely win CA.
Why? If Obama is the nominee, the Dems will have the advantage of a huge contingent of excited, active younger voters. These people will not vote for McCain, and most of them will not come out to vote for Clinton. McCain will look like a very weak candidate (for a variety of reasons, and despite his supposed advantage on military matters) in the manner of Bob Dole. Much of the very conservative Republican base will not come out to vote for him.
If Clinton is the nominee, the Dems will face the disadvantage of having much more of the Republican base mobilized out of their thoroughgoing contempt for her.
Obama is leading, and his lead will hold even if Clinton wins ALL of the remaining contests by 60-40, which she will not be able to do. He is vastly more electable in virtue of his demonstrated ability to bring out the young voters. And because he is not Clinton.
If the Dems want to win against McCain, they should not pressure Obama to make Clinton his running mate. That would diminish his advantage.

Barack Obama is proving himself to be an arrogant fool; his confidence would be okay if some humility is with it. However, at every speech, his confidence is turning to be a bit much. Particularly in interviews, he exerts this arrogance that he cannot be defeated. I hope the Democratic base and superdelegates give this arrogant fool a lesson in humility by voting for Hillary Clinton. This country does not need another uniter wanna-be; his idealism seems questionable; then again, he is a politician whether his delusional followers believe it or not.

The whole reason he is running is to end the kind of politics that unfortunately Hillary Clinton represents to a T. She is corrupt, polarizing, uninspiring and connected at the hip to lobbyists and interests including felons and the Chinese Govt. There is no way he would compromise his mission for change to be her Vice President and taint himself by association. There is no way he would compromise his mission for change and choose her for VP, it would be completely contrary to his message. Get over it the “Dream Ticket” ain’t happening and in fact it isn’t even a dream. It would be just another typical political sell-out which no doubt explains the Clinton’s support for it. It’s the only thing they’ve got left to remain relevant. They are dead without OBAMA and they know it. They must try and choose him for VP or they will lose the future of the party and their legacy will always be one of damage. If he wins they want to hang on to his coattails and try and capitilize on the political capital. They are has beens who played their cards wrong, simple as that. Now they are willing to do anything to get what they want. First Hillary was a cheerleader for Bill then for Bush when she helped him go to Iraq and now even Mccain her parties newest and most immediate threat. She is a glorified cheerleader and no leader, if she were she would have stood up with strength and courage in 2004 as the most powerful name in the party and ran for President then. She would have used good judgement and realized we needed a new leader right away and we couldn’t let Bush have a second term. She could have admitted the war in Iraq was a mistake and worse yet the wrong leaders were executing it. She hedged as she always does because she is no leader. Why? Because no incumbent president loses in the middle of the war. She deemed it politically naive so she missed her real chance to seize the day. That is exactly what Obama is doing now with the support of over 1 million individual Americans, he won’t throw his or their dream away just to appease the Clinton’s political ambitions.

Mick Are you living on another planet or something? Obama doesn’t have a chance against McCain. He is only winning RED states! Get it? Those states will go to McCain. Get it? He will lose Ohio, he will lose Florida, he will lose California, he will lose New Hamsphire! These are all critical states to be won. The Supers will have to decide who can win in the GE. The Supers have the right to vote whichever way they want. They will vote for Hillary because she IS the BEST candidate. Obama is a falling star. Sorry folks, let the truth be told.

Alan, I like you I and I’m with you, check out my post right above your’s

Smart move by Obama. If Hillary is the nominee, she’s either a) going to lose to McCain, or b) be a classic one term President and will be routed in 2012. Neither scenario helps Obama. Just ask Al Gore how well it works when you get in bed with the ethically challenged Clintons.

American People think that by nominating Barack Hussein Obama, we as a country would be embraced by our Allies and Other Countries wholeheartedly. Little do they know that Barack Hussein Obama has been reinventing himself since after graduating from Harvard. He was a Muslim, who then converted to Baptist simply to make it appear he is a true American instead of an Infidel. His stupidity in dealing with Iraq’s problem is certainly ignorant. No president after Bush will be able to pull out our American Soldiers right away. It will take at least 2-5 years to implement any pull out. All this rhetoric is for his own purposes not for the American People.

There is no way Hillary voters will vote for Obama. Hillary voters are EXPERIENCE voters…and will naturally go to McCain.
Lets face it…normal people don’t care about party.

Well, you can always recognize an Obama supporter because they have mile long posts. I think they like to drone on like their leader.
People are forgetting that Hillary has won MANY races that had historic turnout. So Obama’s claim to high turnout is just that…A CLAIM. Hillary has had record turnout too in races where she won.

I C U
Do the math? If Obama loses Hillary’s voters he cannot win ANY swing state!
So go ahead and make enemies for your leader. He may get the nomination, but Hillary supporters will get revenge in the general by defecting to McCain.
What are you talking about? Hiding behind keyboards? Aren’t you here?

@peg:
Let me spell it out for you. The title of this article, and Obama’s exact quote is “You will NOT SEE ME as a VP candidate”
That is an unconditional rejection of being ANYONE’S VP, period. What part don’t you understand?
As far as the part of his statement where he said it’s premature, refers to HIS OWN selection of a VP. It’s a two fold question in case you can’t comprehend it.
As far as your rhetoric about Obama not winning big states, lets put this in perspective. Those BIG states are solid BLUE states and any democrat will carry them during the general election. You are dillusional if you think states like California, New York, Massachusetts, etc., will suddenly become red during the general. Therefore, your big state argument is bogus and only the uninformed will buy it.
On the other hand, Obama’s ability to put red states in play is far more significant. And here is a clear cut example of just how significant it is. Bill Foster just won the congressional seat of former house speaker Denny Hasstert in Illinois. He did this in a solidly republican district with Obama campaigning for and endorsing him. That is a HUGE win for the democrats of a district that has NEVER been blue.
You Clintonistas are excellent spinmeisters but the facts simply escape you.

Why on Earth would Anyone think He would accept the VP position??He’s Winning!
And What the Hell makes Anyone think He would offer the VP position to HillBush ?? Not in Your Wildest Dreams !
As Hillbush Throws herself onto the Floor Kicking & Screaming ” I’m Supposed To be The POTUS ”
I Hope someone catches that on Video!

Well he didn’t outright say “no” to being a VP. But he’s right, he’s running for President now, and it would be premature to talk about down the road. Not to mention that he’s the one that’s winning. So why should he take Hillary’s offer to be second to him. That would be really stupid of him.
And this is so obviously just a ploy by Bill and Hillary to try and get undecideds to vote for her by somehow saying that if they vote for her, they might get him too.
Lastly it’s a ploy by the Clinton campaign, because then they can try and portray Obama as the “divider” and “arrogant” to their seeming (fake) reasonableness.
I just worry that some of the more gullible Dems will buy their Bill and Hill line of bullpucky.

Firstly. I think that Senator Clinton should be the one being asked about considering a Veep position as there doesn’t appear to be a mathematical chance for her to move ahead of Obama in delegates, especially with his continued momentum with wins in 3 of the last 5 States (Vermont, Texas and Wyoming).
Secondly, all of this talk about not being able to take the big states is a bunch of baloney. Clinton and Obama ran neck and neck in the big States (he actually took Texas which was the last big state to vote) and to assume that those who voted for Clinton would not vote Democratic in the General Election if she wasn’t running is not only presumptuous, but foolish.
Silly rabbits.

Obama will be a Presidential Candidate this November. All you race baiting haters get used to it. If it so happens that the Democratic Party don’t nominate Obama there is always write in ballots or the Independent ticket. One thing for sure Hillary on the ticket in any capacity will see the loss of the House and Senate, just like in 1994 when we lost 54 house seats after the Hilly Billy fiasco.

Ben I praise you since as Clinton supporter who at least attemtped to base their argument on facts but unfortunately your argument on electoral votes is nothing more than the result of Clinton/Media spin that has I’m afraid brainwashed you a bit. The electoral argument is valid yes but you would do yourself and any other democrats you know who are holding support for Clinton based on this flimsy “big-state” “swing-state” myth a favor by checking out the results of the fifty state surveys that Survey USA recently did. The actual facts, not talking points or spin, but facts show Obama winning by more electoral votes than Hillary and doing it without Florida. Quit being against something or someone or their supporters and actually check out as many different views and opinions based on facts not spin and talking points.

Top of the ticket or WRITE IN – my vote is for Obama for president!

Most candidates say “no” to even talking about a VP slot, even if they have a chance at little else.
It speaks volumes about Clinton’s character that she is implying Obama might be her VP. She will not be president (thanks for setting us straight, Wyoming; thanks for the Texas caucus; thanks Vermont), and she’s now burned so many bridges with her kitchen sink slime-fest that she has no shot at being VP, either.
Well played, Penn and the rest of Team Clinton…you either advised her very poorly — or, more likely, failed to save her from her bitter, venomous self.
Get back to the Senate and get some therapy, Sen. Clinton. You’ve got call-waiting where your heart should be, despite nice smiles when the cameras are on.

To the Ohio strategy people your point is moot. Because both Clinton and Obama would beat McCain in Ohio by a 10 point margin. The difference is Obama would win 24 states but Clinton would only win 19. Obama has a 50 state strategy while Clinton is only counting on a few states to win the presidency. Democrats should know that this “big state” strategy has lost us the last two elections. If Gore had won TN (his home state) he still would have beaten Bush.

1. Obama will not lose the Latino voters. They will not be voting Republican if Clinton isn’t on the ticket. Yes, he may receive less than Clinton, but he will still receive the majority of Latino voters.
2. Older voters who are democrats will likely vote democrat, regardless of who is on the ticket. They are typically much more mature than the average voter and realize that anybody would be better than Mccain.
3. Texas will not go to the democrats, even if Hillary is the Presidental candidate. Please stop thinking that Obama can’t win NY, NJ , and California. Those states will go democratic, no matter who is on the ticket.
Ohio is the only nation up for grabs, but Obama’s strengths will also produce a lot of unlikely victories in Southern states and the mid-west.

In open primaries like Texas with the republicans voting for the botox battleaxe giving her a 2% win, come on how can you honestly say that counts as a win. It is as obvious as say her support for the bogus pre-emptive strike on Iraq, that she’ll lose to McSame.

Ok. So don’t be VP. Bye!

Not sure why you guys wasted so much time responding to DC and west. They are obviously just Clinton shills based on their blind faith and illogical stances on so many issues, such as seating delegates from current FL/MI results where Clinton went uncontested, pretending that Obama can’t win “big” states when the demos in the states Clinton won would also potentially go to Obama instead of McCain (they pretend this isn’t the case for some reason), and acting like the votes from Florida and Michigan count towards the popular vote when voters were told their vote didn’t count and Obama wasn’t even on the ballot in MI. They are a waste of time and will be proven wrong once they open their eyes.

What I would really like to know is how Obama has gotten this far so fast in American politics without their being any corruption behind him, especially with such a slim resume? I personally I can’t believe his history is as clean as he would ilke us to believe. So he had 8 years as a part time Senator in which he hardly voted and in which he sued to clear all his running mates off the ticket on some flimsy excuses on his first run and then two years in the US Senate where he has not voted more than 40% of the time, and he is ready to be President of the USA? He never votes on any controversial or politically sensitive issues. Come on now. Something is not kosher in Denmark.

This is typical of Barack Obama: denounce but accept. Denounce (when he must) wrongdoing by his supporter/assistants, but accept (whenever he can) the benefits he can derive from them. His integrity extends as far as the ballot box.
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I absolutely agree with you, and it happens time and time again and we are told it is ok because Obama apologized. Well, to me it doesn’t seem like his campaign is actually as he wants us to believe if this continues to happen. Just like the pic of him in African garb, they blamed it on Hillary without proof, he blasted her, his supporters blasted her, but when it came up in the debate he said it was over now that he didn’t think it came from Hillary’s camp. Who is to say his camp or supporters didn’t send it out? There was no way a picture like that would have benefited Hillary – she would have known that and not sent it out, but Obama was never asked if it could have come from his campaign – but he surely reaped the benefits of that photo that had already been in the public domain for months and months by deriding Hillary for over 24 hours before a primary.
I have seen this happen time and again. Like the racist issue in SC, he said his camp did nothing to push that. When the four page press release prepared by and sent out from his camp pushing the racism issue against the Clinton’s was put in his face, his response was well, in hindsight that was probably not the right thing to do. But, until that was in his face he said his camp had not done that. The man is not truthful and his blind ambition along with supporters of a virtually unknown candidate baffles me.
When John Edwards ran with an inspirational message of hope and almost the same ideas it was said he did not have enough experience, that he had only been in the US Senate for six years. Obama declares his candidacy after only two years in the US Senate where he has missed more than 40% of the votes and just had his third year anniversary in the Senate and we are supposed to believe he can bring us utopia. I don’t buy it and what is the difference between Obama and Edwards? Edwards six years experience, Obama two. There is a problem here that needs to be brought to light.
I would also like some insight into his wife being given a promotion at a public hospital which doubled her salary only two months after be was sworn in as a US Senator – it reeks of influence peddling.

Senator Clinton has been blamed for the Iraq War by the Obama Campaign as though she made the decision to invade and prosecute the War in Iraq. This is disingenuous and calls into question the integrity of those belying such claims.
Senator Clinton along with 76 other Senators voted in favor of the Joint Resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq.
Barack Obama himself has said that he doesn’t know for sure how he would have voted if he was a Senator at the time, because he was not privy to the same information that was presented to the Senate then.
The decision to authorize the use of force is not the same as the decision to actually use the force you have been authorized to use.
Law enforcement officers are authorized to use force in many situations but most of them use it wisely and not abusively. Holding Senator Clinton (or the other 76 Senators who voted in favor of the Resolution) responsible for Bush’s abusive use of force is like holding a state legislator responsible for an individual law enforcement officer’s abuse of force simply because the legislator wrote the statutory provisions authorizing the use of force in certain situations.
This argument is specious. It’s not intelligent. It’s even foolhardy.
Reasoning like this puts self-interests above national and international interests. It does not speak well to the quality of character needed by a Commander-in-Chief or a President of the United States. It neither helps our image abroad nor heals our wounds at home from the injuries we’ve sustained to our self-pride as being a just, humanitarian world leader.
It is self-serving blame-shifting, impure and simple.

Why would Obama be Clinton’s VP? She is losing the entire election so far…less delegates, less popular vote, less money raising capabilities, etc…
Furthermore, it would make more sense for Obama to stay in the Senate so he can be more effective for the party.
Why don’t Hillary and McCain team up?

Just a word of warning to Sen. Obama. If you make her VP… NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, ever turn your back on her… or Bill for that matter.
Make sure you don’t hire any of their old White House hands… cooks, secret service, cleaning staff, etc.

Obama also just won Wyoming. That is, Obama has won 14 out of the last 16 contests since super-Tuesday. He has over 1.5million individual Americans paying for his campaign. In spite of the tremendous disadvantages of running against the Clintons (he left office a very popular president after 2 terms), Obama is raising twice the money the Clintons are. Candidates are already running on Obama’s coat-tails. Denny Hastert’s seat just went to a candidate based on Obama’s coat-tails. But the Clintons believe they are entitled to the Oval Office, twice? There is not a snow-ball’s chance in hell that Hillary will ever be POTUS, or even VP for that matter.

The primary reason I voted for Barack Obama was because he’s trying to bring a different kind of politics to this campaign and to Washington, DC. I voted for Bill Clinton twice but I don’t remember there being the kind of vicious, do-or-say-anything-to-get-elected tactics that I’ve seen this year. Hillary Clinton’s campaign has been everything I despise about politics – and personally, I wouldn’t vote for any ticket she was on no matter what position she might be in on that ticket.
And frankly, if Barack Obama were to agree to be on a ticket with Hillary Clinton (no matter who was on top) he would have sold out as far as I am concerned, and I would no longer have any interest in voting for him – either now or at any time he might run in the future!

Hell no…I won’t want to be on any kind of ticket with someone that has so much baggage or that is a garbage. Monsters don’t change.
I am glad he is respectfully pushing that idea as far away for being planted in peoples mind.
From Shame on you Barack Obama to not qualified to be a President to a Clinton/Obama ticket…please!!
Let get the tax returns out…

AxelDC…Hillary’s so called experience (which if you read the actual accounts. she has virtually zero foreign affairs experience unless she has lied about her tasks in the White House..which we all have yet to see as her white house records are not yet available)so her lies amount to nothing but lies compared to Sen Obama’s intelligence, forthrightness, statesmen like qualities, integrity and on and on. Who would you rather have answering that phone call at 3 am…an intelligent, decisive thinking statesmen or an agressive fighter? The answer is obvious. A three way ticket…how nice of the Hill-Billi campaign to offer such a prize. GO HOME BILL! You lost your credibility long time ago! You are not going to be laughing all the way to the White House thinking how you once again dupped the American people. You’ve had your 2 terms and we aren’t about to give you a third!

I don’t understand the insistence from people that Obama “NEEDS MORE TIME IN WASHINGTON” to be president. Are you people insane? Washington corrupts, or haven’t you noticed that over the past 50 years? Obama understands this. He doesn’t even have a home in Washington. He goes back home to his family in Chicago every weekend after the Senate adjourns. The fact that some of you people want more WASHINGTON BOUGHT AND PAID FOR INSIDERS to run the country is shocking! History has proved that judgment is the key to good leaders, not time spent in Washington.

The republicans have been warning you about the Clintons for 15 years. You just didn’t get it. Now that you have a new romance with Obama, you’re kicking your beloved Clintons to the curb. So now that you’re admitting we were right all along, we’re warning you about Obama. Hopefully it won’t take you another 15 years to figure this one out.

Obama needs to come out and publicly say, I have a lot better qualified candidates for my VP who have actual substantial experience like General Zinni or Jim Webb but aren’t mired in the past nor tainted by Washington like Clinton.

Why is there a discussion about popular votes, and delegate counts like the counting has stopped? These numbers will be changing until June and WILL remain in Obama’s favor. I am greatly amused by all the Clinton hypotheticals(VP,Penn.Prmary,superdelegates,MI,FL….etc) as to give “hope” to “change” the inevitable. I also find it fascinating that nothing in this race has been predictable, yet people keep referring to the politics of the past for some kind of guideline to proclaim outcomes. I’m ready for the question to be asked, “What will the Clinton’s do with their invitation to Obama’s inauguration.”

I for one will never vote for any ticket that have the words Hillary Clinton on it. NEVER.
She thinks that if she floats this Obama VP stuff people will vote for her to get him. Hey, if you want Obama, then vote for Obama.
Besides, how could anyone possibly think that Clinton and change are synonymous.
BARRACK OBAMA – YES WE CAN!! AND WITHOUT CLINTON!!!

I love it when Obama gets creamed because his supporters keep saying they have more facts, they are more educated, they are wealthier, and actually saying quite openly that they are “better” than Clinton supporters. Well that’s not change, that’s just the new O bigotry at play. And to think that Obamasites have the nerve to call Clinton Supporters sheep. Take a look around at the Obama flock, you could make sweaters for the entire world with that bunch. NO OBAAAAAAAAAAAAH MA. Longevity is not on your side. The longer this thing goes on, the more the veneer cracks.

So many interviews about whether Hillary and Obama will be an item in November, 2008. Let me lay to rest the questioning by providing the answer: It will NEVER happen. Here’s why.
1. Barack Obama does not need Hillary Clinton’s backage. Does he really want Bill and Hillary and their gang to take over his campaign for President?
2. Hillary Clinton does not want to be upstaged. Obama communicates better, looks better and gets more out of a crowd. Ask John Kerry. No fun having a younger and more electric VEEP.
3. The Dems’ want to WIN in 2008. The country may not be ready to vote for this radical a ticket. Or, maybe it is. But the Dems’ don’t want to guess and hope for the best.
4. They do not complement one another. Both are Senators. The ticket needs somebody with executive experience. Both lean toward the left. The ticket needs somebody in the middle. Both stall on the foreign policy front, much better on the domestic front. The ticket needs a credible entity to help with Iraq.
Plenty of terrific choices ahead for either Hillary or Obama. We don’t see them selecting each other!
Dan

OBAMA/AL GORE 2008 – JUDGEMENT & EXPERIENCE –>THE REAL DREAM TICKET.
HILLARY EXPERIENCE IS ALL ABOUT HER MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE NOTHING ELSE.
GO OBAMA, NEVER HILLARY’S VP, if she steals the nomination, she will have to invent an OBAMA to run with.
Tony Rezko is 1 billion times more frequentable than the Clintons. BEWARE.

If Obama’s people is wondering the correct answer is Hillary Clinton would make an excellent vice-president on my ticket and I will take it under consideration when the time is appropriate.

Not true, Obama leads in popular votes by 660,00 or so, this is sad, the attack minded squabling of hillary’s rancid supporters is starting to make me think about starting a real third party, there are as many misanthropists and racists in this party as there are on the right.

If Hillary Clinton manages to
Steal the Democrat Presidential
Nomination from Barack Obama, should
pick Ron Paul as her VP!
Their constituencies appear to be the same!
Uneducated people and senile seniors!

By reading the majority of the posts to this website, I can tell for the most part which candidate each person endorses. I have attended both universities which Obama and Clinton had attended. I had attended an undergraduate state university also. I received degrees from all three universities. I consider myself educated. At this point of time, I have no idea what to believe. The philosophy believe nothing you read and only a small proportion of what you see seems to be relevant considering the conflicting data presented in both argument. (I do not recall the entire statement; therefore, I am not going to take the chance of someone correcting me on this issue.) In my opinion, politics have not changed. Statistics and data have been organized in such a fashion which supports the opposition’s views. History seems to continuously repeating itself. Before we, as a society, endorse a candidate for president, maybe society needs to sit down and figure which candidate’s plan is plausible. Where is the hard data? Up to this point in time, only basic rhetoric that it will be done has been stated. Where are the monetary funds originating from? How will the changes be implemented? Where is the platform and the hard data supporting the platform? Which candidate will be able to answer these questions effectively? I have not heard any candidate from either side answer these questions including John McCain. So which candidate can offer the people the most change? Is the change plausible without sacrificing your values/beliefs in such a manner which supersedes and eliminates the change in question? For example if you would like A done, but to get A accomplished you have to give up BCDE to get A done. Are you willing to make this sacrifice? The main point which I am trying to illustrate is answer the above questions for yourself, select your candidate accordingly, and waits to see who is selected during the Democratic National Convention (DNC). Then answer the above question again with the same objective but select from the Republican or Democratic nominee. Remember, this election is decided on outcome and who you vote for. If you do not vote, the more of the two evils may be elected. I believe as a nation we have seen evil throughout the years. But until we unite as a nation under one party, whichever party it may be, change for your values and beliefs may be compromised. I know in most American minds pure democracy is a wonderful concept. But as a political science major, I know pure democracy has never existed. Are you, the people, willing to let another four years go by with a candidate whom supports your values less than the other?

Obama must choose the best VP who will
do a good job rather than someone thinlking of themselves; someone who
will not try to run the country from
second place, cause internal problems,
and not willing to help change the
problems americans are having. Obama
will choose the best person who will
help and heal the country.